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Are you going to tell me
where Sian is. Have you got a car?
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She's down the side
somewhere along here.
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I moved her body
a couple of nights ago.
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Her body?
Yeah.
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I was hoping we were gonna save her.
Yeah, it's a shitty day.
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We need to chat, me and you, now.
What do you want to talk about?
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Do you want another one?
Another one?
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She's down there.
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I was today taken to the locations
of two bodies,
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but, thus far,
only one has been recovered.
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That second girl is Becky.
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APPLAUSE
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Keir and I just wanted to add our
congratulations to everybody else's.
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Oh, thank you. I did hear the
confessions weren't PACE compliant.
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No.
In my opinion, they were.
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Well, I'm sure it'll all come out
in the wash.
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We've got a match for
the second girl - Rebecca Godden.
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We've got an address for the mother.
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I know why you're here.
Mrs Edwards, can I come in?
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What's going on?
It's the police.
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They're here to tell me
that Becky's dead. Aren't you?
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Sorry.
Yes, I am.
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No! I can't...!
Karen!
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Steve!
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Karen...
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SHE CRIES OUT IN ANGUISH
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Karen...
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HE KNOCKS ON THE DOOR
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John Godden?
Father of Becky Godden?
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HE SOBS
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What am I gonna do
without my little Becky?
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SOBBING CONTINUES
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Mr Godden, could I please ask...?
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HE SOBS
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Mr Godden,
does that name mean anything to you?
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Christopher Halliwell?
No...
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No, I never heard of him.
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Oh...!
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Mr Godden...
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..when did you last see Becky?
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It was...
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It was me and Karen splitting up,
that's why she went off the rails.
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Mr Godden...
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Yeah?
So, when did you last see Becky?
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Oh, er...
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Hm...
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A while back.
I don't remember when.
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I knew something like this
was gonna happen now.
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Everything's going against us.
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My other daughter,
she needs special care.
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Which I'm trying to organise.
But this is...
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It's just one blow after another.
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THEY BOTH SOB
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Becky was killed in 2003.
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Sian in 2011.
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Eight years.
Now, that is too long a gap
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for him not to have been involved
in any others in between. Steve...
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I mean,
why say that you think the murder
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was in 2003, 2004 or 2005,
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unless there are other murders
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and you've got them mixed up
in your head?
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I need you to stand down.
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Take a break
and recharge the batteries.
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As soon as we can get it arranged,
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we're planning to put in
a small team from MCIT Bristol
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to wrap things up,
so we can all move on...
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You're not listening to me.
..after a brilliant result.
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There will be more victims, Pat.
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He said they're cutting everything
back and they want to replace me.
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No, not straight away, but they're
making me hand the case over.
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Well, what else am I supposed to do?
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It's like they're not even prepared
to acknowledge the fact
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of the notion that we might have
a serial killer on our hands.
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Listen, anyway, I'd better go.
I'm at the checkout.
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OK, love you.
Bye-bye.
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Number two, please.
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ยฃ42.70, please.
Thank you.
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Sorry, excuse me.
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Aren't you the policeman who was
on the Sian O'Callaghan case?
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Er...
It is you, isn't it?
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Well, it was a team effort,
but, er...
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Can I just shake your hand, please?
Thanks.
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Bloody brilliant what you did.
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I couldn't believe
you caught him so quick.
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Thank you.
This is, er...
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This is the guy
who found Sian O'Callaghan's killer.
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Well done.
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APPLAUSE CONTINUES
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Nice one. Good job.
Thank you.
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Nice one, mate.
Thank you.
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OK, his bag's packed.
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He's just choosing a DVD.
OK.
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Before you go, I, erm...
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I've got something for you.
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It's a lock of Sian's hair.
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The funeral parlour did it for us.
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I've got one
and I've given one to Mum.
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Thanks.
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I'll call tomorrow
about the funeral,
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just to go through the arrangements
with you. Right.
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Go on, what did you choose?
Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs.
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Oh, not that again!
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Come on, then.
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Bye, Aiden.
Bye.
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Bye.
Bye, sweetheart. Bye.
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Why are you going to speak to Mick
about the funeral details?
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Because he's Sian's father.
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Yeah, he doesn't need
to be worrying about all that.
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He's got enough on his plate.
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Anyway, it's all done.
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What is?
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The funeral.
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I've booked for us
to go and see Hilliers.
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What?
Yeah, I just said to myself,
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"We need to apply
the KISS principle."
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Keep it simple, stupid.
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Now...
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..have you been to see the doctor
about...?
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No.
I haven't been able to face it.
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Right,
I am booking you an appointment
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and I am taking you there myself.
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No ifs or buts.
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Hello, Declan!
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It's me. It's Chris.
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Chris.
How are you, mate?
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Yeah, not so bad.
Stuck in here, of course.
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I'm on remand at the moment.
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Well, it's a lot of waiting around,
really.
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But it's changed a lot
since I was last in here.
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Well, it was much more stricter
then.
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Well, it's a load of bollocks, mate.
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But they want to interview me.
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Yeah, they want to interview me
about eight murders.
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HE LAUGHS
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I don't know, mate.
I don't know.
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WOMAN ON RADIO: For over a week
her identity was a mystery.
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But detectives have finally been
able to name the unknown woman,
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her body found buried
at a Cotswold beauty spot...
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Where is everyone?
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Re-assigned overnight.
Already?
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I've only been given
to the end of the week myself.
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Right, get everyone who we have left
in the briefing room.
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Jesus Christ...!
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OK, so the news back from the lab
is mixed.
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The good news is
there's a match for Sian's DNA
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on the spots of blood
on the car seat covers
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Halliwell was trying to dispose of.
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Yeah, but surely he could just say
that he was a cab driver
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and Sian got in as a passenger
and had a nosebleed or something.
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Yeah. Although there is a match
for Halliwell's DNA on Sian's body
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from the bite mark to her breast.
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But it's only partial.
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No match from the perfume bottle.
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Erm, there is actually
a full female DNA profile on it,
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but it's not Sian's or Becky's.
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Which begs the question,
whose is it?
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Also they've been unable
to positively identify the item
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he left burning
in the middle of the road.
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What are they saying about
the gaffer tape gag
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found with Becky's body? Very
unlikely to provide any profile,
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given how long
it's been in the ground.
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Right, I think we're going
to find other victims.
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There's a big gap
between Becky and Sian's murders.
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So cross-reference Halliwell's known
whereabouts between those dates
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against cold cases and mispers.
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None of us knows how much longer we
have got left on this investigation,
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myself included.
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There are currently 1,500 actions
pending on the Holmes System.
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We actually need double the team
that we had a few days ago,
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and we have less than half now.
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I'm not quite sure
how that logic prevails,
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but, erm, let's do what we can, eh?
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Right, see you soon.
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What have we done?
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Oh, sit down, for God's sake.
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HE TRIES TO HOLD BACK A SOB
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Oh...
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Do you want anything?
I'll have a cup of tea.
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And a bacon sarnie.
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HE SIGHS HEAVILY
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What are we gonna do without her?
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She was our little girl.
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Here you go.
Thank you.
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I asked to see you, John,
because I want to know something.
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Oh...
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I want to know
how you and your family
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were telling me you'd seen Becky
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when, all along,
she was dead in the ground.
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No, it's not right.
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2003 she was murdered, John.
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But I've been told that your dad,
your nephew,
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all different members of your family
have said they've seen her
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as recent as a couple of years ago.
I don't know.
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Maybe they got the dates wrong.
Nonsense.
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Your dad...
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Your dad would remember when he saw
his own granddaughter, wouldn't he?
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Well, his memory's not as good
as it was.
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It's not good enough, John.
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Because while you lot
were telling me you'd seen her,
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she never got properly reported
as missing.
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HE SLURPS
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Well, you can't blame me
for your own guilty conscience.
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I knew...
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I knew she would have come to see me
if she was still alive.
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I knew it.
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Why, John?
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Oh...
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Was it...?
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Was it just to try and hurt me?
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Hm?
Was that it?
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You're talking trash, as usual.
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God forgive you lot
for what you've done.
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The reason I got in touch is, er...
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..cos I shared a cell with Halliwell
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round about '87, '88 maybe.
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He was just in for nicking stuff,
as I remember.
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And what was it that disturbed you?
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Two things I brought to mind.
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Er...
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Once, he asks me,
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"Have you ever had sex with a woman
while you're strangling her?"
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I remember that. Another time,
we're lying there on the bunks,
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and this time he asks me,
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"How many do you have to kill
to be a serial killer?"
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Mm.
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Tends to stick in your mind,
them sort of things.
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Oh, his big hero, I can tell you,
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was that Myra Hindley
off the Moors Murders.
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They want to interview me.
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Yeah, they want to interview me
about eight murders.
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From a phone call two days ago.
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Eight.
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Who's mentioned eight?
Certainly not us.
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Who's he talking to?
A mate of his he phoned from prison.
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He's known him since school.
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2003, Becky.
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2011, Sian.
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Eight years.
Eight years, eight murders.
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This is surely grounds
for further investigation.
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We have to step up resources again.
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Steve, I've decided I'm moving on.
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I'm going to take up a post
with the UK Border Force.
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Regardless,
this recording may not be enough
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to keep this investigation open.
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Sir...
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..we are starting to get hits
and matches
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with unsolved murders
and missing persons.
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Locally, there's a sex worker
went missing in the early '90s,
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body never found,
last seen just around the corner
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from where Halliwell lived
at the time.
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00:13:21,299 --> 00:13:24,177
And there will be others,
absolutely no doubt.
252
00:13:24,179 --> 00:13:26,657
Halliwell's hero is Myra Hindley.
253
00:13:26,659 --> 00:13:29,817
We need more resources, not less.
254
00:13:29,819 --> 00:13:32,338
Sir, we have got to investigate this
properly,
255
00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:34,618
find out if there are any matches
around the country.
256
00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:37,057
Steve, it's not going to be my call,
OK?
257
00:13:37,059 --> 00:13:39,057
It's gonna be Pat Geenty taking over
as Chief,
258
00:13:39,059 --> 00:13:41,338
and, no doubt,
Mike Veale becoming his deputy.
259
00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:43,098
It's gonna be for them to decide
260
00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:56,419
if they want to put any more
resources into this, not me.
261
00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:05,457
Evening.
262
00:14:05,459 --> 00:14:06,657
Nice to see you.
263
00:14:06,659 --> 00:14:08,297
Usual deal,
none of what we talk about
264
00:14:08,299 --> 00:14:10,258
can be used by ITV
until after the verdict.
265
00:14:10,260 --> 00:14:11,937
Yeah, agreed.
266
00:14:11,939 --> 00:14:13,858
Well, he's a serial killer.
267
00:14:13,860 --> 00:14:16,057
Rob, I am convinced of it.
268
00:14:16,059 --> 00:14:18,417
On top of the two that we know he's
killed,
269
00:14:18,419 --> 00:14:20,057
I think there's probably
another six.
270
00:14:20,059 --> 00:14:21,338
Six?!
271
00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:35,020
Mm-hm. But I need a bigger team
to properly investigate him.
272
00:14:40,900 --> 00:14:42,498
I love that jacket.
273
00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:44,738
That was her favourite.
I couldn't wear it.
274
00:14:44,740 --> 00:14:52,297
Just have it as a keepsake.
275
00:14:52,299 --> 00:15:00,618
Can you finish this one?
276
00:15:00,620 --> 00:15:04,378
When do you think
you're going to move back in, Kev?
277
00:15:04,380 --> 00:15:18,059
I will at some point.
But...just not now.
278
00:15:22,260 --> 00:15:27,738
Why don't you sort something out
for her to wear?
279
00:15:27,740 --> 00:15:29,738
For the funeral.
Don't tell me what you choose.
280
00:15:29,740 --> 00:15:39,408
It'll just be between
the two of you.
281
00:15:46,525 --> 00:15:55,923
Not too tight.
OK.
282
00:15:55,925 --> 00:16:05,322
You look so smart.
283
00:16:05,324 --> 00:16:06,883
Come on, Pete, Sharon's her
auntie.
284
00:16:06,885 --> 00:16:08,802
It's only a poem, please.
I'm sorry, Sharon,
285
00:16:08,804 --> 00:16:11,043
but we've only got
a certain amount of allotted time
286
00:16:11,045 --> 00:16:13,523
and the service has all been
very carefully worked out.
287
00:16:13,525 --> 00:16:16,363
But surely...? Elaine asked me
to do it and I've done it.
288
00:16:16,365 --> 00:16:29,564
Is the timing really that precise?
Mum, she's here!
289
00:16:59,365 --> 00:17:05,083
God bless her.
290
00:17:05,085 --> 00:17:07,403
MALE REPORTER: Close friends told me
291
00:17:07,405 --> 00:17:09,843
she was outgoing, loyal,
fun, caring.
292
00:17:09,845 --> 00:17:12,123
A great auntie
to her friends' children.
293
00:17:12,125 --> 00:17:16,962
A young women with so much promise,
so much zest for life.
294
00:17:16,964 --> 00:17:19,123
That life was honoured today.
295
00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:27,762
Today proved how much she meant
to this town.
296
00:17:27,764 --> 00:17:29,163
Are they for Sian?
297
00:17:29,165 --> 00:17:40,563
Yeah.
298
00:17:40,565 --> 00:17:42,522
Mint sauce?
299
00:17:42,524 --> 00:17:44,323
It's minted lamb!
I like mint sauce.
300
00:17:44,325 --> 00:17:58,325
Well, how bloody minty
do you want it? Minty.
301
00:17:59,684 --> 00:18:02,002
If we're doing this mother-daughter
thing, how's work?
302
00:18:02,004 --> 00:18:04,522
OK.
Just OK?
303
00:18:04,524 --> 00:18:08,962
I'm not gonna make a career
out of it.
304
00:18:08,964 --> 00:18:22,724
I want to have babies, don't I?
305
00:18:23,125 --> 00:18:24,883
It'll be some time before we can...
306
00:18:24,885 --> 00:18:27,083
..release Becky's body for burial.
307
00:18:27,085 --> 00:18:30,482
And we are aware that
this is a distressing time for you.
308
00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:33,603
We want her back.
Of course.
309
00:18:33,605 --> 00:18:39,002
Now, obviously, Becky's body
was photographed as we found her.
310
00:18:39,004 --> 00:18:42,643
And as this is an image
which will be shown in court...
311
00:18:42,645 --> 00:18:45,163
..we wanted to give you
the opportunity to view it first,
312
00:18:45,165 --> 00:18:49,163
should you feel you wanted to.
313
00:18:49,165 --> 00:18:50,482
Yeah?
314
00:18:50,484 --> 00:18:54,363
Yeah.
OK.
315
00:18:54,365 --> 00:18:55,962
So...
316
00:18:55,964 --> 00:19:09,885
..the main photo
is her as we found her.
317
00:19:17,085 --> 00:19:19,363
Karen!
No, I'm all right, I'm all right.
318
00:19:19,365 --> 00:19:22,083
Just leave me down here a minute.
319
00:19:22,085 --> 00:19:24,643
I'll get some water.
320
00:19:24,645 --> 00:19:28,482
SHE CLEARS HER THROAT
321
00:19:28,484 --> 00:19:30,923
He cut...
322
00:19:30,925 --> 00:19:33,163
He cut...
323
00:19:33,165 --> 00:19:35,202
He cut her head off...
324
00:19:35,204 --> 00:19:39,923
..and her hands and her feet.
325
00:19:39,925 --> 00:19:41,883
The pathologist can't be sure
326
00:19:41,885 --> 00:19:45,923
whether Halliwell did that
or if animals did.
327
00:19:45,925 --> 00:19:50,442
He did it.
328
00:19:50,444 --> 00:19:56,042
Come on, love, drink this.
329
00:19:56,044 --> 00:20:01,762
Why would he do that
to a little girl?
330
00:20:01,764 --> 00:20:04,162
SHE SOBS
331
00:20:12,004 --> 00:20:13,563
125 quid fine.
332
00:20:13,565 --> 00:20:16,282
That's not actually too bad.
And a drugs rehabilitation course.
333
00:20:16,284 --> 00:20:17,563
You can't take that lightly,
334
00:20:17,565 --> 00:20:19,603
or they'll put you back in prison,
my young lady.
335
00:20:19,605 --> 00:20:21,442
I ain't done any drugs
for three whole weeks.
336
00:20:21,444 --> 00:20:22,522
You'll be so proud of me.
337
00:20:22,524 --> 00:20:24,442
Also, look at that.
What's that?
338
00:20:24,444 --> 00:20:26,843
One of those prison officers
put a cigarette out on my arm.
339
00:20:26,845 --> 00:20:28,163
Such a bitch!
340
00:20:28,165 --> 00:20:30,042
Oh, can we keep the hood down?
341
00:20:30,044 --> 00:20:33,643
I love it with the hood down. And
I don't smell bad, I just like it.
342
00:20:33,645 --> 00:20:36,323
We'll get you home,
give you a nice bubble bath
343
00:20:36,325 --> 00:20:38,643
and then we'll go out
for a posh dinner.
344
00:20:38,645 --> 00:20:42,762
How about that?
Yeah.
345
00:20:42,764 --> 00:20:46,363
Mum...
Yeah?
346
00:20:46,365 --> 00:20:52,363
Can I go see my boyfriend first?
347
00:20:52,365 --> 00:20:54,083
No.
Please, Mum.
348
00:20:54,085 --> 00:20:55,962
I'm so excited to see him.
I'll just...
349
00:20:55,964 --> 00:21:08,805
I'll pop in, I'll say hello.
That'll be it.
350
00:21:13,484 --> 00:21:16,962
I'm not coming home, Mum.
351
00:21:16,964 --> 00:21:19,323
Becky, get in the car.
352
00:21:19,325 --> 00:21:21,563
I got...
I got myself clean.
353
00:21:21,565 --> 00:21:28,883
I can't keep putting you
through this.
354
00:21:28,885 --> 00:21:41,484
I'm sorry.
355
00:22:37,665 --> 00:22:41,022
How are you coping?
OK.
356
00:22:41,024 --> 00:22:43,542
You don't feel the need
for any anti-depressants?
357
00:22:43,544 --> 00:22:47,423
I don't see the point.
I know why I am depressed.
358
00:22:47,425 --> 00:22:49,182
It was two girls, wasn't it?
359
00:22:49,184 --> 00:22:50,823
Sian and another girl.
360
00:22:50,825 --> 00:22:54,103
Just lift your arm.
361
00:22:54,105 --> 00:22:56,663
All of us here, we're...
362
00:22:56,665 --> 00:22:58,143
..we're very sorry.
363
00:22:58,145 --> 00:23:01,663
That pisses me off.
Sian's name always being mentioned
364
00:23:01,665 --> 00:23:04,903
in the same breath
as the other girl.
365
00:23:04,905 --> 00:23:08,863
I'm so sorry, have I got that wrong?
366
00:23:08,865 --> 00:23:11,262
Erm, get dressed again.
367
00:23:11,264 --> 00:23:13,462
No, there was another victim.
368
00:23:13,464 --> 00:23:17,182
But the circumstances
were completely different.
369
00:23:17,184 --> 00:23:21,182
She was a drug addict
and a prostitute...
370
00:23:21,184 --> 00:23:25,903
..and must have accepted there was
a risk attached to her profession.
371
00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:29,262
Sian was an ordinary girl who had
a boyfriend and a job in an office.
372
00:23:29,264 --> 00:23:31,742
She was just on a night out
with her friends.
373
00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,982
Obviously, I feel sorry for Becky,
374
00:23:33,984 --> 00:23:38,462
but I'd hate for people to think
Sian was the same as her.
375
00:23:38,464 --> 00:23:41,903
Well, Elaine,
there is something there.
376
00:23:41,905 --> 00:23:46,143
So now we need to take a scan
and a biopsy
377
00:23:46,145 --> 00:23:49,383
to try and work out
exactly what it is.
378
00:23:49,385 --> 00:23:56,863
So, look, don't worry about it
too much just yet.
379
00:23:56,865 --> 00:23:59,343
Are we seeing him today?
No, just the lawyers.
380
00:23:59,345 --> 00:24:02,502
All the legal arguments.
381
00:24:02,504 --> 00:24:04,702
One of the solicitors said
that Halliwell
382
00:24:04,704 --> 00:24:08,222
might try and claim
that Sian is a prostitute.
383
00:24:08,224 --> 00:24:10,942
If they start saying that, I'm
telling you now, I'm gonna lose it.
384
00:24:10,944 --> 00:24:12,863
They can't say that!
They won't.
385
00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:17,063
We can clearly demonstrate
she was nothing like Becky.
386
00:24:17,065 --> 00:24:24,903
We've got to wait in here, yeah?
387
00:24:24,905 --> 00:24:26,663
I'm Mick, Sian's dad.
388
00:24:26,665 --> 00:24:31,262
Pleased to meet you.
This is, er, Debbie my wife.
389
00:24:31,264 --> 00:24:32,383
I can't believe Elaine and I
390
00:24:32,385 --> 00:24:34,182
have gone through
what we've gone through,
391
00:24:34,184 --> 00:24:39,623
and, all along, we've only lived
a few doors away from each other.
392
00:24:39,625 --> 00:24:47,663
But Becky and Sian are together
forever now, aren't they?
393
00:24:47,665 --> 00:25:00,065
All rise.
394
00:25:15,544 --> 00:25:17,982
Mr Geenty,
I am not allowed to give evidence,
395
00:25:17,984 --> 00:25:21,542
but I can tell you that,
apart from in terrorism cases,
396
00:25:21,544 --> 00:25:23,303
I have never come across
397
00:25:23,305 --> 00:25:26,103
the urgent interview provision
to PACE being used.
398
00:25:26,105 --> 00:25:30,863
It's a very unusual beast.
Would you agree with that?
399
00:25:30,865 --> 00:25:34,303
Yes, it is.
400
00:25:34,305 --> 00:25:38,423
But what it does not mean is that,
for example...
401
00:25:38,425 --> 00:25:40,343
..you can abandon
the need to caution.
402
00:25:40,345 --> 00:25:43,182
The PACE guidelines
quite clearly indicate
403
00:25:43,184 --> 00:25:46,063
that a person is entitled
to have his rights explained to him
404
00:25:46,065 --> 00:25:48,222
and a police officer's duty
405
00:25:48,224 --> 00:25:50,663
is to ensure
that they understand those rights.
406
00:25:50,665 --> 00:25:52,542
It is.
407
00:25:52,544 --> 00:25:54,303
And that's an inviolate position.
408
00:25:54,305 --> 00:25:55,623
Yes, it is.
409
00:25:55,625 --> 00:25:59,103
But I have to say that I think
the decision that Steve made was,
410
00:25:59,105 --> 00:26:03,782
to use the slang, a gutsy decision.
411
00:26:03,784 --> 00:26:09,903
I'd like to think I'd make a similar
decision in the same circumstances.
412
00:26:09,905 --> 00:26:11,903
I've just been told the defence QC
413
00:26:11,905 --> 00:26:14,103
is going to move
to have you excluded from the trial.
414
00:26:14,105 --> 00:26:15,383
What?
415
00:26:15,385 --> 00:26:16,982
I'm sure they're just trying it on.
416
00:26:16,984 --> 00:26:19,542
An attempt to rattle you
before you testify today.
417
00:26:19,544 --> 00:26:22,063
But what it does mean is
they don't really have any defence,
418
00:26:22,065 --> 00:26:23,623
except attacking you.
419
00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:26,303
So that's why they haven't put out
a defence statement.
420
00:26:26,305 --> 00:26:27,742
Exactly.
421
00:26:27,744 --> 00:26:30,863
Right.
Thanks, Ian.
422
00:26:30,865 --> 00:26:33,782
I swear to tell the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth,
423
00:26:33,784 --> 00:26:35,423
so help me God.
424
00:26:35,425 --> 00:26:36,982
Detective Superintendent Fulcher,
425
00:26:36,984 --> 00:26:38,823
you knew
that Sian O'Callaghan was dead
426
00:26:38,825 --> 00:26:41,423
long before you met Mr Halliwell
in that car park, didn't you?
427
00:26:41,425 --> 00:26:45,462
I had no way of knowing
if she was dead or alive.
428
00:26:45,464 --> 00:26:47,702
Looking through your own notes
at the time,
429
00:26:47,704 --> 00:26:50,022
you talk about "the prospect
of recovering her body".
430
00:26:50,024 --> 00:26:53,623
You believed she was dead,
didn't you?
431
00:26:53,625 --> 00:26:56,182
Er, I think you're missing
the point here.
432
00:26:56,184 --> 00:26:59,903
What I thought, er, hoped
or even believed
433
00:26:59,905 --> 00:27:04,343
is irrelevant to the execution
of my duties as a police officer
434
00:27:04,345 --> 00:27:08,103
and my responsibilities
to Sian O'Callaghan.
435
00:27:08,105 --> 00:27:10,782
Barbury Castle's a remote area,
isn't it?
436
00:27:10,784 --> 00:27:12,942
Yes, I suppose it is.
437
00:27:12,944 --> 00:27:15,903
About as different from the custody
suite of Gable Cross Police Station
438
00:27:15,905 --> 00:27:20,343
as it is possible to envisage,
isn't it? Yes.
439
00:27:20,345 --> 00:27:22,782
What I suggest to you
is that you took Mr Halliwell there
440
00:27:22,784 --> 00:27:24,502
because you thought that would be
441
00:27:24,504 --> 00:27:26,823
an additional element of pressure
upon him.
442
00:27:26,825 --> 00:27:29,782
That's what you were doing,
isn't it?
443
00:27:29,784 --> 00:27:34,423
I believed Barbury Castle was
most likely to be where Sian was,
444
00:27:34,425 --> 00:27:37,022
and that, if I took Christopher
there for an urgent interview,
445
00:27:37,024 --> 00:27:39,502
it would necessarily mean
getting to her quicker,
446
00:27:39,504 --> 00:27:41,823
if he was prepared to tell us
where she was.
447
00:27:41,825 --> 00:27:44,423
And if that involved
abandoning his PACE rights,
448
00:27:44,425 --> 00:27:46,182
you were prepared to do that?
449
00:27:46,184 --> 00:27:48,383
I believed
the urgent interview provision
450
00:27:48,385 --> 00:27:50,863
enabled me to take
the course of action that I did.
451
00:27:50,865 --> 00:27:53,782
Mr Fulcher, your own deputy,
Detective Inspector Kirby,
452
00:27:53,784 --> 00:27:55,022
told you it was not a good idea
453
00:27:55,024 --> 00:27:57,383
for you to conduct
an additional urgent interview
454
00:27:57,385 --> 00:28:00,623
yourself with Halliwell, didn't he?
455
00:28:00,625 --> 00:28:02,982
Yes, he did.
456
00:28:02,984 --> 00:28:05,623
He said you'd be sailing
very close to the wind,
457
00:28:05,625 --> 00:28:09,663
in terms of a breach of PACE,
didn't he?
458
00:28:09,665 --> 00:28:15,182
Words to that effect.
459
00:28:15,184 --> 00:28:17,143
I can't believe
he didn't caution Halliwell.
460
00:28:17,145 --> 00:28:19,343
Why didn't he just do it
when he was talking to him?
461
00:28:19,345 --> 00:28:20,623
It's not just the caution, Mum.
462
00:28:20,625 --> 00:28:24,383
They've got to take him to a police
station and give him a solicitor.
463
00:28:24,385 --> 00:28:25,782
I feel so sorry for Steve.
464
00:28:25,784 --> 00:28:28,103
That bloody lawyer
is really going for him.
465
00:28:28,105 --> 00:28:30,063
I think he's made a mistake.
466
00:28:30,065 --> 00:28:33,143
But if he hadn't done what he did,
we'd never have found Becky.
467
00:28:33,145 --> 00:28:40,863
A big fucking mistake.
468
00:28:40,865 --> 00:28:43,823
Let's move on now to the "Do you
want another one?" conversation.
469
00:28:43,825 --> 00:28:46,222
As soon as he began talking to you,
470
00:28:46,224 --> 00:28:50,303
you appreciated it had nothing to do
with the Sian investigation.
471
00:28:50,305 --> 00:28:51,583
Yes.
472
00:28:51,585 --> 00:28:54,462
Well, surely, as the conversation
progressed, you should have said,
473
00:28:54,464 --> 00:28:57,303
"Look, we'll talk about this
at the police station later."
474
00:28:57,305 --> 00:28:59,823
That's what you should have said,
shouldn't you?
475
00:28:59,825 --> 00:29:01,863
My view was that
we were in the moment.
476
00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:04,423
If he was offering the information,
I would rather have it
477
00:29:04,425 --> 00:29:07,103
and not curtail it,
than not find Becky Godden.
478
00:29:07,105 --> 00:29:09,863
And once Mr Halliwell was taken back
to Gable Cross Police Station
479
00:29:09,865 --> 00:29:12,103
and given a solicitor,
to your intense annoyance,
480
00:29:12,105 --> 00:29:13,623
he decided he didn't want to answer
481
00:29:13,625 --> 00:29:15,383
any further questions
in an interview.
482
00:29:15,385 --> 00:29:18,222
It was frustrating, yes.
483
00:29:18,224 --> 00:29:21,383
And you and your team went out of
your way to undermine Mr Coleman,
484
00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:28,623
who attended throughout
the interview process, didn't you?
485
00:29:28,625 --> 00:29:32,222
I thought it was utterly
ridiculous...
486
00:29:32,224 --> 00:29:36,022
..that an individual, who had taken
me and numerous other people
487
00:29:36,024 --> 00:29:39,502
from a surveillance convoy
to two dead bodies,
488
00:29:39,504 --> 00:29:43,383
should seek to find some mechanism,
some...
489
00:29:43,385 --> 00:29:45,542
..quirk of the law, some loophole,
490
00:29:45,544 --> 00:29:49,663
to get him away from the fact
that he was a multiple murderer.
491
00:29:49,665 --> 00:29:57,942
So PACE, in your view,
is a loophole?
492
00:29:57,944 --> 00:29:59,782
It was a travesty!
493
00:29:59,784 --> 00:30:01,542
It was like I was on trial.
494
00:30:01,544 --> 00:30:03,103
What about the judge?
495
00:30:03,105 --> 00:30:05,022
Hm, it's hard to tell.
496
00:30:05,024 --> 00:30:07,423
She did seem more impressed with
their QC than ours,
497
00:30:07,425 --> 00:30:09,663
I could see that.
498
00:30:09,665 --> 00:30:13,063
And this is the first criminal case
she's ever presided over.
499
00:30:13,065 --> 00:30:16,262
Up to now, she's just done
family stuff, you know.
500
00:30:16,264 --> 00:30:18,663
But it's not just that
Halliwell confessed.
501
00:30:18,665 --> 00:30:20,982
He confessed
and he took you to the bodies.
502
00:30:20,984 --> 00:30:23,542
How can that be a problem?
I don't know.
503
00:30:23,544 --> 00:30:26,702
I mean, their side
were looking very confident.
504
00:30:26,704 --> 00:30:29,222
They're trying to paint me
as some sort of renegade
505
00:30:29,224 --> 00:30:30,502
acting outside of the law.
506
00:30:30,504 --> 00:30:43,385
But the judge
has to see through that.
507
00:30:58,024 --> 00:31:02,623
I have considered the evidence
and oral submissions with care
508
00:31:02,625 --> 00:31:05,702
and I find,
on the balance of probabilities,
509
00:31:05,704 --> 00:31:08,303
that the defendant's confession
510
00:31:08,305 --> 00:31:12,103
relating to the location
of Sian O'Callaghan's body
511
00:31:12,105 --> 00:31:14,343
may have been obtained
by oppression.
512
00:31:14,345 --> 00:31:20,303
MUTTERING AND WHISPERING
513
00:31:20,305 --> 00:31:23,863
With regard to Becky Godden-Edwards,
514
00:31:23,865 --> 00:31:27,863
as soon as the defendant
began to talk about another offence,
515
00:31:27,865 --> 00:31:32,383
he should have been immediately
re-arrested and cautioned.
516
00:31:32,385 --> 00:31:36,462
The urgent interview criteria had,
at that point, expired.
517
00:31:36,464 --> 00:31:38,502
There should have been
no further discussion
518
00:31:38,504 --> 00:31:41,903
and the defendant should
have been taken to a police station.
519
00:31:41,905 --> 00:31:45,063
This whole series of events began
520
00:31:45,065 --> 00:31:47,903
with a deliberate decision
by a senior officer
521
00:31:47,905 --> 00:31:50,462
to breach the PACE code.
522
00:31:50,464 --> 00:31:52,942
And whilst
Detective Superintendent Fulcher
523
00:31:52,944 --> 00:31:54,782
was entitled to adopt an approach
524
00:31:54,784 --> 00:31:58,383
which would lead to the gathering
of intelligence and information,
525
00:31:58,385 --> 00:32:02,623
what resulted was not,
in my judgment,
526
00:32:02,625 --> 00:32:04,782
such as can fairly constitute
527
00:32:04,784 --> 00:32:15,378
admissible evidence
in a criminal trial.
528
00:32:17,819 --> 00:32:22,858
Yeah, well, he's going to have
to explain this at the trial.
529
00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:24,138
Are you all right?
530
00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:36,217
DOOR OPENS
531
00:32:36,219 --> 00:32:43,017
Er, good afternoon, everybody.
532
00:32:43,019 --> 00:32:46,457
So, the first thing to say
is that we should still be OK
533
00:32:46,459 --> 00:32:48,178
with the case against him for Sian.
534
00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:50,338
We have the DNA evidence.
535
00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:55,297
Her blood in his car,
his DNA on her body.
536
00:32:55,299 --> 00:33:01,257
And what about Becky?
537
00:33:01,259 --> 00:33:04,938
The confession evidence
is all we had.
538
00:33:04,940 --> 00:33:07,098
And, er, I'm afraid, without that,
539
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:11,098
we'll have to take her name
off the indictment.
540
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,497
What, you...?
541
00:33:12,499 --> 00:33:14,418
What, you mean he is not
going to stand trial
542
00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:17,777
for murdering my daughter?
543
00:33:17,779 --> 00:33:20,098
I'm sorry.
544
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:22,098
Well, this is Fulcher's fault!
545
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:26,977
He's fucked up here, he has!
546
00:33:26,979 --> 00:33:29,618
How can this be fair?
547
00:33:29,620 --> 00:33:31,777
Everybody knows he did it.
548
00:33:31,779 --> 00:33:34,858
That judge knows it. The lawyer
knows it. You know it. I know it.
549
00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:37,217
So how can that be right?
550
00:33:37,219 --> 00:33:46,698
Please, can you just tell me,
how can this be right?
551
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:49,178
WOMAN REPORTER: Christopher
Halliwell was brought to court
552
00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:50,498
under police protection.
553
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:53,417
The 47-year-old mini cab driver
is accused of killing Sian
554
00:33:53,419 --> 00:33:55,618
as she walked home alone
from a girls' night out.
555
00:33:55,620 --> 00:33:58,138
MAN: Come here, you!
BANGING ON THE VAN
556
00:33:58,140 --> 00:34:00,098
The police had asked them
to stay calm
557
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,337
and let the legal process
take its course.
558
00:34:02,339 --> 00:34:03,817
BANGING ON THE VAN
559
00:34:03,819 --> 00:34:06,817
But the strength of feeling
is etched on people's faces here.
560
00:34:06,819 --> 00:34:19,739
CROWD SHOUTS ABUSE
561
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:54,580
DOOR OPENS
562
00:35:26,819 --> 00:35:35,018
Will the defendant please rise?
563
00:35:35,020 --> 00:35:40,018
Christopher John Halliwell, you are
charged that, on March 19th, 2011,
564
00:35:40,020 --> 00:35:44,417
you did murder Sian O'Callaghan,
contrary to common law.
565
00:35:44,419 --> 00:35:53,138
How do you plead?
566
00:35:53,140 --> 00:36:04,098
Guilty.
567
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:05,897
Christopher John Halliwell,
568
00:36:05,899 --> 00:36:10,897
you have advanced little
by way of mitigation.
569
00:36:10,899 --> 00:36:14,138
I accept, however,
that your plea of guilty
570
00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:18,698
has avoided Sian's family
having to endure a trial,
571
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,658
which is an important factor.
572
00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:24,737
Having careful regard to the overall
seriousness of this offence,
573
00:36:24,739 --> 00:36:27,857
the starting point will be 30 years.
574
00:36:27,859 --> 00:36:32,817
However, I will allow a discount of
five years for your plea of guilty.
575
00:36:32,819 --> 00:36:35,937
I therefore rule that the minimum
term that you shall serve
576
00:36:35,939 --> 00:36:39,978
will be 25 years.
577
00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:47,937
Take him down.
578
00:36:47,939 --> 00:36:53,377
All rise.
579
00:36:53,379 --> 00:36:55,978
WOMAN REPORTER: Christopher
Halliwell could have been facing
580
00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:58,498
a jail term
for murders of two women.
581
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,817
Instead, he was given life for one
582
00:37:00,819 --> 00:37:14,020
and, it appears,
escaped justice for another.
583
00:37:15,779 --> 00:37:19,098
So, I came to apologise to you both.
584
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,937
You have got nothing
to apologise for, Steve.
585
00:37:21,939 --> 00:37:23,297
Well...
586
00:37:23,299 --> 00:37:25,857
If you hadn't done what you did,
we'd never have found Becky.
587
00:37:25,859 --> 00:37:27,098
Well...
588
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,257
..not everyone sees it that way.
589
00:37:29,259 --> 00:37:30,737
What I can't understand
590
00:37:30,739 --> 00:37:34,257
is why nobody seems to be applying
any common sense here.
591
00:37:34,259 --> 00:37:36,257
Why would that lawyer
be fighting so hard
592
00:37:36,259 --> 00:37:37,978
to set free someone like Halliwell,
593
00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:40,857
who's admitted, himself,
that he killed two young girls?
594
00:37:40,859 --> 00:37:44,658
Why put all that effort
into defending someone who's guilty?
595
00:37:44,660 --> 00:37:46,857
Oh, I don't know, the principle,
I guess.
596
00:37:46,859 --> 00:37:48,257
What principle?
597
00:37:48,259 --> 00:37:49,897
And what about justice?
598
00:37:49,899 --> 00:37:52,377
They say that Halliwell
was oppressed by you.
599
00:37:52,379 --> 00:37:54,618
Well, I bet Becky and Sian
were oppressed by him
600
00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:57,337
just before he killed them, but...
601
00:37:57,339 --> 00:38:02,337
..that doesn't seem to matter,
does it?
602
00:38:02,339 --> 00:38:04,857
Look, I've thought about this a lot
and...
603
00:38:04,859 --> 00:38:09,098
..if it's any consolation,
I can honestly say, hand on heart,
604
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,458
I wouldn't have done anything
different. I don't see how I could.
605
00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:15,337
We're behind you
one hundred percent, Steve.
606
00:38:15,339 --> 00:38:16,777
Mm.
607
00:38:16,779 --> 00:38:19,498
You brought my little girl home.
608
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,897
We can't thank you enough
for what you've done for us.
609
00:38:22,899 --> 00:38:24,618
Thank you.
610
00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:35,018
That does mean a lot to me.
611
00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:37,217
Contact the DVLA, madam,
and they'll deal with it.
612
00:38:37,219 --> 00:38:41,618
OK, all right.
Thank you.
613
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:44,257
Yes, sir?
614
00:38:44,259 --> 00:38:48,138
I want to make a complaint
about one of your police officers.
615
00:38:48,140 --> 00:38:49,937
His name...
616
00:38:49,939 --> 00:38:59,498
..is Detective Superintendent
Stephen Fulcher.
617
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,737
Well, it's a complaint, Steve.
A complaint's a complaint.
618
00:39:02,739 --> 00:39:05,098
And as the lead for Professional
Standards for the force,
619
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,377
I have to take it seriously.
620
00:39:06,379 --> 00:39:09,458
But half the stuff he's complaining
about is nothing to do with me.
621
00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:11,658
I mean, not being invited
to a press conference.
622
00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:14,217
Us calling her Becky Godden-Edwards,
not just Godden.
623
00:39:14,219 --> 00:39:15,618
I had no say in that.
624
00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:18,257
And the thing about my actions
preventing justice for Becky...
625
00:39:18,259 --> 00:39:20,978
We wouldn't have found Becky
if it wasn't for my actions.
626
00:39:20,980 --> 00:39:23,857
Well, I'll have to make a decision
on whether to refer it to the IPCC
627
00:39:23,859 --> 00:39:26,937
and whether it constitutes
just misconduct or gross misconduct.
628
00:39:26,939 --> 00:39:33,337
Really?
Mm.
629
00:39:33,339 --> 00:39:36,098
HE SIGHS HEAVILY
630
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:37,337
Ah.
Steve.
631
00:39:37,339 --> 00:39:39,578
Sir, I need a word.
632
00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:51,859
OK.
Thanks.
633
00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:07,857
What is it?
634
00:40:07,859 --> 00:40:10,058
It's all clear.
635
00:40:10,060 --> 00:40:11,618
What is?
636
00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:13,578
I had a biopsy.
637
00:40:13,580 --> 00:40:22,578
But you told me...
It's benign.
638
00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:33,498
Don't you ever go through something
like that on your own again, hm?
639
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:36,937
I just feel guilty.
640
00:40:36,939 --> 00:40:44,377
Guilty that it's me
who's been given another chance.
641
00:40:44,379 --> 00:40:46,978
I'm sorry, sir, but it's bollocks.
642
00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:49,538
None of what he's complaining about
makes any sense.
643
00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:51,777
And, for most of his points,
I'm the wrong respondent.
644
00:40:51,779 --> 00:40:53,257
All right, leave it with me, Steve.
645
00:40:53,259 --> 00:40:55,658
I'll have a quiet word with Mike.
Would you?
646
00:40:55,660 --> 00:41:01,937
I'd appreciate that.
Thanks.
647
00:41:01,939 --> 00:41:05,058
Oh, hello.
Come in.
648
00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:08,737
Thanks.
649
00:41:08,739 --> 00:41:10,937
As you know,
the case against Halliwell
650
00:41:10,939 --> 00:41:14,018
for Becky's murder
collapsed in court.
651
00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:17,737
But at least we were able to answer
the mystery of her disappearance
652
00:41:17,739 --> 00:41:22,377
and end what must have been for you
the terrible pain of not knowing.
653
00:41:22,379 --> 00:41:23,618
Yes.
654
00:41:23,620 --> 00:41:26,698
And, for that, we are very grateful
to Steve Fulcher.
655
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,297
The good news is that we were able
to convict Halliwell
656
00:41:29,299 --> 00:41:31,098
for Sian's murder.
657
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:35,737
And, as you know, he received a
sentence of 25 years' imprisonment.
658
00:41:35,739 --> 00:41:37,937
Yeah, minus the time
he's spent on remand.
659
00:41:37,939 --> 00:41:40,058
Yeah.
660
00:41:40,060 --> 00:41:43,058
Given that we do not have
enough evidence
661
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:45,297
to convict Halliwell
for Becky's murder,
662
00:41:45,299 --> 00:41:50,538
Wiltshire Police Service
hopes that you are, er, satisfied...
663
00:41:50,540 --> 00:41:52,817
..that, were Halliwell
ever to be released,
664
00:41:52,819 --> 00:41:54,978
he would be a very, very old man.
665
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:58,817
You see,
you don't understand me at all.
666
00:41:58,819 --> 00:42:01,857
Yes, Halliwell is going to be
in prison for a very long time,
667
00:42:01,859 --> 00:42:04,138
but not so long
that he won't ever get out.
668
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:06,098
And Sian's family have got justice.
669
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:08,458
And I'm pleased for them.
Truly, I am.
670
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:10,178
But where is Becky
in the pecking order?
671
00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:12,618
She's right down at the bottom,
where's she's always been.
672
00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:16,538
How dare you trample
over my daughter?
673
00:42:16,540 --> 00:42:19,337
We're not gonna let go of this,
not one bit.
674
00:42:19,339 --> 00:42:22,498
Not till that man is made to pay
for what he did to my Becky.
675
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:25,018
So you go back and you tell your
bosses, no, I am not satisfied.
676
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:37,419
Not at all.
677
00:42:40,580 --> 00:42:42,018
Steve...
678
00:42:42,020 --> 00:42:43,817
I had a word with Mike.
679
00:42:43,819 --> 00:42:48,618
Unfortunately, he's already
referred it to the IPCC.
680
00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:50,777
They're going to charge you.
681
00:42:50,779 --> 00:42:53,377
Gross misconduct.
682
00:42:53,379 --> 00:42:57,978
Sorry.
683
00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:59,098
DOOR CLOSES
684
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:00,178
Fuck...
685
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:03,239
Fuck, fuck, fuck...
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