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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:47,390 --> 00:00:49,810 It's a really weird, scary feeling. 2 00:00:53,010 --> 00:00:54,250 You're disoriented. 3 00:00:54,810 --> 00:00:57,230 You can't see in front of you. 4 00:00:58,740 --> 00:01:00,520 It's like it's false imprisonment. 5 00:01:00,820 --> 00:01:04,480 I can't get away. I can't get out. I can't get out of its door because these 6 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,000 guys are blocking the door. I can't get to my car. 7 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,800 When I'm in my car, they're surrounding my car. 8 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,940 I can't see. They flash light bulbs. It's nighttime. Now I can't. My vision 9 00:01:13,940 --> 00:01:14,940 impaired. 10 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:28,010 It's hot. Bye, stress. 11 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:02,140 Why do you ask me? City's gone to my head. I don't care 12 00:02:02,140 --> 00:02:06,320 now, cause you don't care now. 13 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:09,759 Cause you don't know my name. 14 00:02:10,940 --> 00:02:15,300 Yeah, yeah, you don't know my name. 15 00:02:37,870 --> 00:02:41,650 I've been shooting since the 80s, and celebrity photography has changed a lot. 16 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:48,910 With big award shows, there are about 50, 60 guys in the pen, and they're all 17 00:02:48,910 --> 00:02:50,350 fighting for the same image. 18 00:02:51,590 --> 00:02:55,390 They're trying to get a head shot, or a full -length fashion shot. They're 19 00:02:55,390 --> 00:02:59,250 screaming at the celebrities, trying to get eye contact into their camera. 20 00:03:01,530 --> 00:03:06,190 I, on the other hand, I'm outside the pen. I'm on the red carpet. 21 00:03:06,590 --> 00:03:09,790 Where I go right up to them. I can make them pose for me. 22 00:03:10,130 --> 00:03:11,430 Give me eye contact. 23 00:03:12,350 --> 00:03:13,630 Or set up a shot. 24 00:03:15,290 --> 00:03:18,750 You'll talk to the PR people. They'll even tell you flat out. 25 00:03:19,050 --> 00:03:20,570 We don't need all these photographers. 26 00:03:20,870 --> 00:03:22,310 It's just for camera and show. 27 00:03:22,850 --> 00:03:25,170 Basically all we need is like five or six guys. 28 00:03:25,390 --> 00:03:29,290 But no, we want all these photographers here. Because it looks great on camera. 29 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:30,870 And it makes it look more glamorous. 30 00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:32,610 Hollywood. 31 00:03:34,570 --> 00:03:38,130 If you look in the magazines and on all these websites and TV shows, you're 32 00:03:38,130 --> 00:03:39,130 seeing all these celebrities. 33 00:03:39,670 --> 00:03:41,270 Where does it really come from? 34 00:03:41,790 --> 00:03:46,650 The red carpet is just one piece of what's become a billion dollar a year 35 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:47,650 industry. 36 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,020 In the days of Hedda Hopper, at the premiere of something, you know, the 37 00:04:08,020 --> 00:04:12,460 would hire photographers, but there was gracefully waiting, may I take a 38 00:04:12,460 --> 00:04:13,460 picture? 39 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,980 It was all agreed upon. 40 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,019 Clients would walk in the room and say, hey, how'd you get all these 41 00:04:19,019 --> 00:04:20,300 photographers here, you know? 42 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,019 Nobody bothered anybody. 43 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,500 I didn't cross your fence, you didn't cross my fence. 44 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,580 Now it's become something totally different. 45 00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:34,370 Someone jumping over your wall, okay, your wall. 46 00:04:34,990 --> 00:04:37,230 You know, how is that not a clear line? 47 00:04:37,470 --> 00:04:38,730 You can't do that, right? This is a perfect example. 48 00:04:39,010 --> 00:04:43,250 Mark and I getting married. We took every precaution and every measure so we 49 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:44,350 could have a private moment. 50 00:04:44,630 --> 00:04:49,670 Decided to do it in the backyard, invite 20 people. They thought they were 51 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:53,050 coming to a barbecue, so some of them are not even that dressed up. In shorts 52 00:04:53,050 --> 00:04:53,709 and shit. 53 00:04:53,710 --> 00:04:55,370 Mark built... The runway. 54 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:58,370 Literally. Hammer nails. From home people with his friends. Because to get 55 00:04:58,370 --> 00:05:01,850 contractor to do it, it would have been. We couldn't trust anybody. We had to do 56 00:05:01,850 --> 00:05:05,070 it all ourselves, which is fine. It was actually a beautiful experience in its 57 00:05:05,070 --> 00:05:09,370 own way. But even with that, they found a way. 58 00:05:11,170 --> 00:05:16,590 Helicopter comes over right as I'm walking down the aisle. We couldn't hear 59 00:05:16,590 --> 00:05:21,050 other making the vows. The people were there putting here our vows. Till this 60 00:05:21,050 --> 00:05:22,590 day, I'm not sure if she said yes because. 61 00:05:23,130 --> 00:05:25,570 Did you? You did, right? We have to look at the tape. 62 00:05:25,930 --> 00:05:29,430 Technically, you can get out of this. You know, because I never heard it. But 63 00:05:29,430 --> 00:05:33,110 that place wasn't even sacred. Like, shouldn't our home at least be sacred? 64 00:05:46,930 --> 00:05:51,310 Yeah, at Getty Images, we're selling an image every single second. 65 00:05:52,780 --> 00:05:58,940 And within the news or editorial area, about 40 % of all those images are 66 00:05:58,940 --> 00:06:00,000 entertainment images. 67 00:06:02,420 --> 00:06:06,220 I get the same names thrown at me. Oh, do you work with Annie Leibovitz? Do you 68 00:06:06,220 --> 00:06:07,260 work with Patrick Demarchelier? 69 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:11,160 But the most published photographers in the world are the entertainment 70 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,160 photographers. 71 00:06:12,460 --> 00:06:15,960 A lot of people may not have heard of them, but these folks are being 72 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,120 in the thousands and thousands every week. 73 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,800 Photographers. The difference in photographers. 74 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:25,960 Well, I guess there's three kinds. You got the guys that you regularly see on 75 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,900 the scene, like Kevin, the guys from Wire Image, where you see them at all 76 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:31,540 shows. You kind of become friends with them. You know, they're not looking for 77 00:06:31,540 --> 00:06:33,680 bad shot. You know, they're looking for something interesting. 78 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,120 He said, cool, no problem. 79 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:40,980 Then you got the stalker Nazis, you know, who go through anything to get a 80 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,640 who sit there like they're eating lunch with a bag with a big camera in it and 81 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,300 whip it out at any, like, moment's notice. 82 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,380 And then some of the worst offenders are just the creepos with the cell phones. 83 00:06:51,230 --> 00:06:53,910 They're acting like they're looking for a number, you know, I'm buying a Boca 84 00:06:53,910 --> 00:06:55,810 burger, which I don't want anybody to know about. 85 00:06:56,030 --> 00:06:58,090 You know what I mean? I eat steaks and meat, I'm badass. 86 00:06:58,390 --> 00:07:01,050 You know, it's like I'm in the Boca burger section, like, fuck! 87 00:07:02,350 --> 00:07:04,970 You know, I'm like that, you know, those people suck. 88 00:07:05,450 --> 00:07:09,010 People with mobile phones and, you know, pictures of them, you know, you can't 89 00:07:09,010 --> 00:07:10,910 go anywhere without being photographed, basically, now. 90 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:14,550 You have to be very, you have to accept it, you have to be aware of it, and you 91 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:15,550 have to behave accordingly. 92 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:23,940 Now the regular citizens have become paparazzi. 93 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:28,280 You're not safe anywhere. Anyone can sell you. 94 00:07:28,540 --> 00:07:30,580 Anyone can sell a piece of you. 95 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:38,460 The kind of fascination that we have with celebrities changed over time. 96 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:48,240 We used to go and see movies in these amazing movie houses, many of which... 97 00:07:48,510 --> 00:07:51,730 were not only built to look like palaces, were called palaces. 98 00:07:52,250 --> 00:07:56,810 And we would sit in the dark and we would watch these huge, larger -than 99 00:07:56,810 --> 00:08:00,830 people, idols that were literally like deities. 100 00:08:06,730 --> 00:08:09,970 The first people who appeared in movies, their names weren't used. 101 00:08:10,210 --> 00:08:13,070 The audience had to make up their own names for these people. 102 00:08:13,970 --> 00:08:15,730 Mary Pickford, for instance. 103 00:08:16,140 --> 00:08:21,020 became known as the girl with the curls because the studios didn't promote them. 104 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,720 They knew if they promoted them that they would have to pay them more. 105 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:31,860 Pickford really changed that. Personally, she and her mother invented 106 00:08:31,860 --> 00:08:34,340 and the percentage deal. 107 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:37,620 The movie makes so much money, I make so much money. 108 00:08:38,020 --> 00:08:39,840 Unheard of, unthinkable. 109 00:08:40,860 --> 00:08:43,780 And she married Douglas Fairbanks. 110 00:08:44,270 --> 00:08:46,950 who, on the male side, did the same thing. 111 00:08:49,310 --> 00:08:54,250 Back when Hollywood was in its golden age, it was glamorous and beautiful and 112 00:08:54,250 --> 00:08:58,330 mysterious, and you wondered how they lived. And if they did a spread in 113 00:08:58,330 --> 00:09:01,030 somebody's house, it was just so special. 114 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:05,470 And now, we're so exposed, there's no mystery. 115 00:09:06,510 --> 00:09:08,810 Today, celebrity is an industry. 116 00:09:09,530 --> 00:09:13,730 And in every industry, you have raw material. And the raw material in the 117 00:09:13,730 --> 00:09:19,110 celebrity industry is an actual body, an actual flesh and blood person who has 118 00:09:19,110 --> 00:09:24,150 feelings, has emotions, has a family. That raw material is shaped. 119 00:09:24,390 --> 00:09:28,990 You have to look a certain way. So they have a stylist and a publicist and a 120 00:09:28,990 --> 00:09:34,190 manager and an agent that help form the raw material into the finished product. 121 00:09:35,390 --> 00:09:37,350 Second of all, you have authorized publicity. 122 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Things that the celebrity and his or her publicist have decided will become part 123 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,100 of this person's image. 124 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,260 Interviews, magazine covers, the actual films, the products in which the star 125 00:09:48,260 --> 00:09:49,260 appears. 126 00:09:49,620 --> 00:09:54,200 And then you have the unauthorized publicity, which is paparazzi 127 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:59,280 gossip, unsanctioned. But at the same time, it still contributes to the 128 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,280 formation of the image. 129 00:10:01,980 --> 00:10:06,220 Next, media takes this image and gives it to the consumer. 130 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:11,010 As far as outlets, there's print, there's television, and there's online. 131 00:10:11,390 --> 00:10:16,270 So some of the authorized outlets would be People, Entertainment Tonight, Extra, 132 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:21,210 Access Hollywood, and then a star's website or a star's fan club. 133 00:10:22,810 --> 00:10:27,110 Unauthorized and print, we have InTouch and Life & Style. There's gossip blogs 134 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:30,170 like TMZ, Perez Hilton, D -Listed, and Gawker. 135 00:10:31,550 --> 00:10:35,910 So bottom line, all these different players, they're all interconnected and 136 00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:37,030 symbiotic on one another. 137 00:10:48,260 --> 00:10:49,540 Watch the cars behind you guys. 138 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:50,900 Have a great day. 139 00:10:51,700 --> 00:10:54,340 I don't know that one. Pretty hot. 140 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,560 And she sells? 141 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,280 Oh, fuck yeah, she sells. 142 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:03,040 Yeah, yeah, she sells for sure. 143 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:05,910 Usually they run, what, $250, $500? 144 00:11:07,090 --> 00:11:09,410 Truthfully, usually they're $50, $250. 145 00:11:10,190 --> 00:11:12,010 It's as much as $250 ,000. 146 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:17,610 Because here's the deal. You may get nothing today, but you may come today or 147 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:21,390 tomorrow and make more in one day than most make in a year. 148 00:11:22,850 --> 00:11:24,190 For the love of the game. 149 00:11:27,550 --> 00:11:34,510 The problem is... It has to be the most audacious, the most 150 00:11:34,510 --> 00:11:39,670 outrageous, the most intrusive behavior may get the most saleable shot. 151 00:11:40,070 --> 00:11:45,330 The agencies are trying to get that, to sell them to magazines or video outlets 152 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:49,510 that will pay money for it. And the public buys the magazines and watches 153 00:11:49,510 --> 00:11:50,910 show, so it's that whole cycle. 154 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,820 Part of the game is to provoke a reaction. 155 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:11,840 If that thing had happened, somebody would take a swing at them. 156 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,080 You know, or start pushing or screaming. 157 00:12:15,580 --> 00:12:17,500 That's a better shot. Makes more money. 158 00:12:19,460 --> 00:12:22,860 They usually bring up ex -girlfriends, ex -wives and say stuff about Pam. 159 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,040 There's not too much they can really say to get my goat. 160 00:12:25,860 --> 00:12:28,840 It's more invading your space, getting in your face. You're like, wait a 161 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:29,880 I don't know you, dude. 162 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:31,950 You're going to come at me and try to get a reaction? 163 00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:34,990 There's my reaction. We're all good. 164 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:37,230 I've given them one or two of those in my time. 165 00:12:38,350 --> 00:12:41,370 But now you just have to know that that's the photograph that they want. 166 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:45,130 And you just have to not give it to them. 167 00:12:46,930 --> 00:12:51,370 What they're trying to do is provoke you. Like, oh, you were voted worth this 168 00:12:51,370 --> 00:12:54,730 that. And if they do provoke you, they have won. 169 00:12:55,030 --> 00:12:56,890 And you have lost. Me, on the other hand. 170 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:58,350 Yeah. 171 00:12:58,940 --> 00:13:04,500 Mark doesn't have as much of a tolerance for that stuff, so we try not to put 172 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:06,520 him in those situations too often. 173 00:13:10,220 --> 00:13:14,240 They kind of want Lindsay Lohan to melt down in public, so they've got their 174 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,540 photograph. This week in the celebrity spotlight, Lindsay Lohan is jailbound. 175 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,520 And, you know, half the time she gives them the thing they want, and it's very 176 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,720 sad because it's like, this girl was a good actress. She had talent. She made 177 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,720 records, you know. 178 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,640 And now it's kind of, she's become their toy. 179 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,500 And it's frightening. 180 00:13:33,140 --> 00:13:36,900 There is a uniquely American sport called Grand Decide. 181 00:13:38,980 --> 00:13:44,920 We build someone up to spectacular heights in order to tear them down. It's 182 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,680 vicious cycle. You build up, you break her down, and the next thing you know, 183 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:48,700 this person comes back again. 184 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,380 Next thing you know, break them down again. 185 00:13:52,820 --> 00:13:54,120 You know, you just sit back and watch. 186 00:13:54,730 --> 00:13:58,730 I know it's only a couple days in, but they say it's going to go number one. 187 00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:04,350 That 188 00:14:04,350 --> 00:14:14,950 moment 189 00:14:14,950 --> 00:14:19,270 of her just looking in the camera and shaving her head was such a powerful 190 00:14:19,270 --> 00:14:20,470 moment. 191 00:14:21,660 --> 00:14:27,220 Fuck you, God. I mean, there was something about it that was, fuck you. 192 00:14:27,220 --> 00:14:28,420 know, I mean, she had enough. 193 00:14:28,740 --> 00:14:33,640 She broke in front of all of our eyes, and then people captured that, but it 194 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:39,160 really bad to me. People used to be able to develop kind of quietly, and if they 195 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,140 made mistakes, the whole world didn't know about them. 196 00:14:42,340 --> 00:14:45,800 Gee, Mickey, we don't know how lucky we are. But that's not the way it is 197 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:51,150 anymore. Now, really horrible behavior and people who are definitely in trouble 198 00:14:51,150 --> 00:14:56,370 and need help are often just seen as people who are supposed to entertain 199 00:14:56,490 --> 00:14:57,490 This is a mess. 200 00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:06,930 Our celebrity images are supposed to be seamless, but when those cracks open, I 201 00:15:06,930 --> 00:15:08,910 mean, it's kind of dirty, but it's also fascinating. 202 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:12,010 I am on a drug. It's called Shirley Sheen. But then, you know, if the cracks 203 00:15:12,010 --> 00:15:13,950 open too wide... There's nothing left. 204 00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:17,910 You borrow my brain for five seconds and just be like, dude, can't handle it. 205 00:15:18,570 --> 00:15:19,570 He's a train wreck. 206 00:15:19,630 --> 00:15:21,450 He's an absolute train wreck, which is fabulous. 207 00:15:21,730 --> 00:15:25,430 Great. You know you shouldn't look, but you're just curious. 208 00:15:33,730 --> 00:15:34,730 Come on, Mr. P. 209 00:15:34,950 --> 00:15:36,230 I'm Darren Lyons, Mr. 210 00:15:36,510 --> 00:15:39,090 Paparazzi, and this is my mini -me, Mr. P. 211 00:15:40,010 --> 00:15:43,890 I started as a news photographer on a local paper, but my passion was 212 00:15:43,890 --> 00:15:44,890 photography. 213 00:15:48,430 --> 00:15:53,830 A lot of the world, looking from the outside in, live really disinteresting 214 00:15:53,830 --> 00:15:57,490 lives, and I think that is what's captured the culture of celebrity today. 215 00:15:57,910 --> 00:16:02,190 I'm a true believer in the image. You know, I've been to Bosnia on the front 216 00:16:02,190 --> 00:16:04,050 line getting shot at in full metal jacket. 217 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,100 I've won Press Photographer of the Year in the United Kingdom two years in a 218 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,800 row. I've won all the awards you could imagine being a photographer. 219 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,860 The fact of the matter is, you know, awards don't pay the mortgage. 220 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:18,840 I saw celebrity as being the huge moment of the future. 221 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,420 With MrPaparazzi .com, I embraced it, and I'm still embracing it. 222 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Celebrity isn't going to go away. It's been around since time began. 223 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,820 You know, Julius Caesar was famous. Napoleon was famous. 224 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:34,980 But they were famous in different ways. 225 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,180 The key is mass media. 226 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:41,520 It had taken Napoleon a lifetime to become famous. It took Charlie Chaplin a 227 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:48,500 month. One day he was nobody, and a month later he was known in the deepest 228 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:49,880 jungles of Africa. 229 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,760 He couldn't appear in public without a mob coming around him. 230 00:16:54,980 --> 00:16:58,440 And he had to invent strategies to deal with that. 231 00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:28,390 Celebrity today means anyone who's famous. Now, you can be famous, you 232 00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:30,810 guy who was in a balloon and floated across the country. 233 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:32,230 Isn't that a star? 234 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:36,010 I mean, is Jeffrey Dahmer a star? 235 00:17:36,910 --> 00:17:39,530 The real name of the game is fame. 236 00:17:56,530 --> 00:18:00,590 Historically, the American dream meant that anyone could come to America and 237 00:18:00,590 --> 00:18:03,810 through hard work could own a home and provide for their family. 238 00:18:05,260 --> 00:18:10,220 Now the American dream is really transformed into anyone can become a 239 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,800 The way 240 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:22,780 that people talk about YouTube is that anyone who puts 241 00:18:22,780 --> 00:18:24,920 a video on YouTube can become famous. 242 00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:28,860 Everyone can deny. 243 00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:34,050 Justin Bieber a contract, but then because enough people are interested in 244 00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:35,430 he can still become famous. 245 00:18:36,270 --> 00:18:42,270 It's this idea that if you have talent and if you make that talent visible, 246 00:18:42,270 --> 00:18:45,930 you can be voted in our democratic society to be a star. 247 00:18:46,670 --> 00:18:51,750 I think a recent survey of British children under 15 said they wanted to be 248 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:55,930 doctor or a nurse or an architect or a photographer. No, they just wanted to be 249 00:18:55,930 --> 00:18:57,690 either rich or famous. 250 00:19:09,790 --> 00:19:13,710 You know, Jersey Shore is a huge success because we're not jobs and we don't 251 00:19:13,710 --> 00:19:16,130 care what people think about us. So I think that's why everybody loves us. 252 00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:20,410 In general, a reality celebrity is like a one -youth celebrity. 253 00:19:21,130 --> 00:19:25,670 You pay a little for them, but then you can exploit them until they 254 00:19:25,670 --> 00:19:29,740 disintegrate. There are people out there now that are completely celebrities and 255 00:19:29,740 --> 00:19:32,220 absolutely famous who don't work. 256 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,560 Who don't even work. They have nothing to sell. 257 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,680 They have no... It's so scary. 258 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:46,300 I hate reality television. 259 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,860 I think it's the lowest common denominator. 260 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,880 It's mind rot to me. It numbs my brain. And the people being called celebrities 261 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,160 and have their own reality shows, I want to kill them. 262 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,900 Told you you wouldn't regret it. 263 00:19:58,460 --> 00:20:02,020 I think what people misunderstand is that we're in the entertainment 264 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:05,740 We're not these serious people, and everyone's just gotten so used to all 265 00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:10,260 actors taking themselves so seriously when it's really just a joke industry. 266 00:20:10,380 --> 00:20:11,380 It's supposed to be fun. 267 00:20:13,540 --> 00:20:16,980 There's nothing wrong with the Kim Kardashian, all of those people, if 268 00:20:16,980 --> 00:20:20,720 how they choose to make a living, more power to them. 269 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,480 It's not my, my line of work is different. 270 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,940 I wanted to entertain people. 271 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Reality TV is, in a way, the new vaudeville. 272 00:20:32,980 --> 00:20:35,440 There's nothing real about reality TV. 273 00:20:35,860 --> 00:20:40,540 People are led to believe that it's real, and it's the big lie. 274 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:42,420 There's nothing real about it. 275 00:21:06,830 --> 00:21:08,890 I'll tell you the first time it bothered me. 276 00:21:09,150 --> 00:21:14,150 I walked out of my house. I wanted to go and get my mother -in -law a birthday 277 00:21:14,150 --> 00:21:15,150 present. 278 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:20,750 And I walked out, and for the first time ever, there were all these 279 00:21:20,750 --> 00:21:21,750 photographers outside. 280 00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:27,490 And my first instinct, curiously enough, because we're kind of all animals, 281 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:32,510 basically, was to run. But then I got scared to run because I was pregnant, 282 00:21:32,510 --> 00:21:35,710 I didn't trust the streets of New York to be my ally. 283 00:21:36,429 --> 00:21:41,870 And I started crying, and I said to the photographers, please don't chase me, 284 00:21:41,910 --> 00:21:42,689 I'm pregnant. 285 00:21:42,690 --> 00:21:44,030 Please don't chase me. 286 00:21:44,270 --> 00:21:49,370 And they kept following me, and I went into a building. I saw a doorman in a 287 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:54,710 building, and I said to him, is it okay, can I come in your building? And he 288 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:58,350 took me down to the garage, and there was a couple, and they were on a 289 00:21:58,350 --> 00:22:03,970 motorcycle, and they saw me crying, and she and I traded clothing. 290 00:22:04,940 --> 00:22:08,520 Everything from head to toe, and I got on the back of her boyfriend's 291 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,920 motorcycle, and she walked out of my clothes, and he took me elsewhere and 292 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,920 dropped me off. 293 00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:17,000 But it's just gotten exponentially worse ever since then. 294 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:24,220 Get out of my way, asshole. 295 00:22:35,090 --> 00:22:36,990 The paparazzi life is like the lottery. 296 00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:41,410 You might want to take a day off, but that might be the day when something 297 00:22:41,410 --> 00:22:42,410 happens. 298 00:22:45,250 --> 00:22:46,450 Campbell, you're hours away. 299 00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:51,210 I start off very early in the morning, and I go late at night, and I try to do 300 00:22:51,210 --> 00:22:53,170 it six days a week, if not seven days a week. 301 00:22:53,410 --> 00:22:55,910 Got to do that celebrity rain dance. 302 00:22:56,610 --> 00:22:59,090 Come on, bring them in, bring them in, bring them in. 303 00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:00,930 I love what I do. 304 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,380 Because I get to drive up and down the streets of my favorite city in the 305 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,820 Los Angeles, California, interact with celebrities, meet the tourists. 306 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,220 I can take a day off when I want. I'm my own boss. I have no one to answer to. 307 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,340 Loving life, man. Loving life. 308 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:58,040 They would work together in teams of two. One of the photographers would 309 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,580 aggravate the celebrity that they were shooting, start some kind of 310 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:07,600 confrontation so that the other one could take the photograph. 311 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,900 We sat down with Fellini, Marcello Mastroianni, and we talked about what we 312 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:36,420 done today, what we had taken. 313 00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:39,780 And he took notes. 314 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:47,160 When he did La Dolce Vita, the protagonist, the photographer of the 315 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:54,160 film, wanted to give him a name, but he could have called him Gilberto or 316 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,160 Antonio Franco. 317 00:25:04,569 --> 00:25:08,990 The advent of the paparazzi took on a whole different nastiness. 318 00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:13,530 Paparazzi were, I'll get you at any cost. 319 00:25:13,870 --> 00:25:16,330 And I'll get it if it means killing you. 320 00:25:17,150 --> 00:25:20,370 And the competition among them was so fierce. 321 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:36,060 Ron Gallello was probably the first well -known paparazzi who every day woke up 322 00:25:36,060 --> 00:25:41,780 and decided to focus his lens on Jackie Kennedy, no matter what she was doing or 323 00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:42,780 where she was. 324 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,760 Age has been good to Ron because he got a lot of very bad press. 325 00:25:59,420 --> 00:26:04,580 He was seen to be, you know, a parasite, and his photography is now being 326 00:26:04,580 --> 00:26:09,560 collected by serious photography collectors. But, you know, when Ron was 327 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,640 working, it was completely different from the way it is now. 328 00:26:18,220 --> 00:26:25,080 Getting your picture taken went from something where you felt that somebody 329 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,080 was... 330 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:33,180 honoring you, a part of you, your work, your beauty, your youth, something, to a 331 00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:39,240 haunt. And most of the time, instead of celebrating something about you, a lot 332 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,480 of the time it's trying to find something wrong with you. 333 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,900 I'm not out to get a bad shot of Lindsay Lohan. I'm out to get a shot. 334 00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:52,580 Now, if she's doing good, well, I'm taking a good shot. 335 00:26:52,780 --> 00:26:55,680 If she's doing bad, well, in her eyes, I'm taking a bad shot. 336 00:26:56,090 --> 00:26:57,090 To me, it steals a shot. 337 00:27:04,210 --> 00:27:06,750 You're about the rudest people I've ever run into. 338 00:27:07,030 --> 00:27:07,249 Thank you. 339 00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:08,750 No wonder people come up and clap you. 340 00:27:09,170 --> 00:27:12,470 He threw the finger at me. I don't blame him. You're an asshole. 341 00:27:12,890 --> 00:27:15,010 That's exactly right. You know, they use it as a big ghost. 342 00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:16,210 Oh, paparazzi bad. 343 00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:18,950 Well, you took the picture and they wrote about it, but you shouldn't have 344 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:19,839 the picture. 345 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,900 Well, okay, but they still sold magazines and you still read it. Hey, I 346 00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:25,980 question. Who do you think the people hate more, the parking enforcement or 347 00:27:25,980 --> 00:27:26,980 paparazzi? 348 00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:30,040 You guys. Really? 349 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,240 Yeah. 350 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,480 I think it's really easy to blame the paparazzi because there are actual 351 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,780 right there that we can pinpoint as the cause. 352 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,440 There are photos of the paparazzi getting in the celebrities' faces, 353 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,760 writers and editors are completely unseen, and we certainly don't want to 354 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,760 ourselves. 355 00:27:48,430 --> 00:27:50,130 I think that paparazzi has a place. 356 00:27:50,490 --> 00:27:53,590 Forty percent of many of the magazines have paparazzi photos. 357 00:27:54,370 --> 00:27:56,130 They're an important part of the industry. 358 00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:02,950 I want to get away. 359 00:28:04,170 --> 00:28:11,170 I want to get away. 360 00:28:12,030 --> 00:28:15,350 The men in the doctor's office and they're all there and there's no men 361 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:16,970 me. That's the one I'll go for first. 362 00:28:18,330 --> 00:28:22,310 Either OK or Awesome. I would pick that up before Sports Illustrated. 363 00:28:22,930 --> 00:28:27,310 Bryce Elton, the PMJ, and OK Magazine. Yes, I do read them all. 364 00:28:28,430 --> 00:28:32,310 Someone I know is on the cover, and it has the big headline, I want to know 365 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:33,310 what's happening. 366 00:28:33,370 --> 00:28:36,970 If there's a controversy, like an argument between people, and I know it's 367 00:28:36,970 --> 00:28:38,790 to be ongoing, that's when I buy it. 368 00:28:39,070 --> 00:28:40,290 Good gossip, basically. 369 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:04,940 Confidential goes behind the headlines for its stories, stories that we feel, 370 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,720 that I feel, the public should know. 371 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,160 Robert Harrison published kind of pulpy skin magazines out of his apartment in 372 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,180 the 1940s, and then he started Confidential in the 1950s. 373 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:27,160 Confidential basically made what had, to that point, been unspeakable, 374 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,420 speakable. So, women's sexuality, having relationships between the races, even 375 00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:33,440 homosexuality. 376 00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:41,000 Confidential was operating entirely outside of the system and had no qualms 377 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,660 about reporting on these sorts of things. 378 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,500 Some of the stories were outrageous. 379 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,740 You know, I boiled my baby in the oven this morning, things like that. I mean, 380 00:29:48,740 --> 00:29:51,360 terrible things, and there were people who believed it. 381 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,540 And our damage control was just ignore it. 382 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:57,100 It'll go away, and most of the time it did. 383 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,800 The outlaw magazines took advantage of the fact that there were secrets that 384 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,940 they could basically use as blackmail. 385 00:30:05,780 --> 00:30:11,520 The classic story, of course, was the story about Rock Hudson's homosexuality, 386 00:30:11,540 --> 00:30:17,040 which Confidential had absolute evidence of. And they said, give us an exclusive 387 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,780 story and we won't print it. 388 00:30:20,380 --> 00:30:26,400 So the studio took a much lesser actor, who was also gay, and they sacrificed 389 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,400 him. 390 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,680 Pretty sleazy stuff, but it was business. 391 00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:38,380 Confidential became extremely popular in a very short amount of time. I mean, 392 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:40,860 upwards of five million copies a month at its height. 393 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,520 But all of these stars, including Maureen O 'Hara and Liberace and Dorothy 394 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,160 Dandridge, filed suit against Confidential for the various things that 395 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,360 about them. I don't feel I've ever done anything wrong. 396 00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:56,380 robert harrison agreed to basically stop covering the stars and then the stars 397 00:30:56,380 --> 00:31:00,320 in the studios would stop suing him so he sold it off i think it's a part of 398 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,820 americana i think it's going to live long after i'm gone 399 00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:10,580 they're 400 00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:13,790 so funny i mean You know, you're never going to get the bald looking. 401 00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:19,010 Looking for all those sort of fun little behind -the -scenes kind of images that 402 00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:21,310 are going to make a reader feel like that they were really there. 403 00:31:21,670 --> 00:31:25,630 Someone stepping on someone's train, someone greeting someone saying hi, 404 00:31:25,630 --> 00:31:28,290 Kidman and Keith Urban going out on their date night, things like that. 405 00:31:29,330 --> 00:31:33,250 From this, we pick a few hundred pictures, and I would say in terms of 406 00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:37,590 in the magazine, we have room for six consecutive pages of award show 407 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,060 Now, if something really juicy happens at the show, you never know, it could 408 00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:45,500 a cover story out of it, or it could go in the hot stuff section and be a gossip 409 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:46,500 item. 410 00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:50,820 Mila Kunis looked amazing, so we might run a full -length dress shot of her, in 411 00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:54,180 which case we can't necessarily run another picture of her inside with 412 00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:55,820 Portman, even though it's really cute. 413 00:31:56,780 --> 00:31:58,820 So it's really just a giant puzzle. 414 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,400 Last week, it was launched in the 1970s to compete with people. 415 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,080 People Magazine was first published in 1974. 416 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,320 One of the first issues had Gerald Ford not, like, in a suit in the White House. 417 00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:17,620 He's in a pool, and his shirt is off. 418 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,020 So it's really trying to give this intimate look into these different 419 00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:25,280 personalities' lives. And it was a tremendous success immediately. 420 00:32:26,660 --> 00:32:30,160 Us Weekly was actually published by the New York Times Company originally, and 421 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,880 eventually sold it to Jan Wenner, the founder of Rolling Stone. 422 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,800 It has been a monthly, a bi -weekly, and a weekly. 423 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,220 They have changed its format, its tone, who they're covering. He tried 424 00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:43,780 everything, and none of it worked. 425 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,280 It seems like people was invincible. 426 00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:54,060 Around 2002, Bonnie Fuller took over Us Weekly, and she changed the face of 427 00:32:54,060 --> 00:32:55,060 celebrity reporting. 428 00:32:55,220 --> 00:32:59,420 A lot of the magazines would feature these glamorous shots of celebrities, 429 00:32:59,420 --> 00:33:04,460 at the time, Us Weekly wasn't doing that well. And so the only photos that Us 430 00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:08,800 Weekly could afford were those shots that magazines wouldn't print. I was 431 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,840 interested in celebrities being glamorous, but then I also wanted to see 432 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,180 human side of them, too. 433 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,080 And so we created a section called Stars Are Just Like Us. 434 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Bonnie snapped up those shots of celebrities taking out their garbage, 435 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,840 up their kids. 436 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:34,540 It was a home run for us. 437 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:40,640 I guess I was a pioneer because it was the first time that paparazzi photos had 438 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,700 been presented that way. 439 00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:48,970 She definitely has the good hair and then the pretty and hello. 440 00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:55,010 Everybody wants to know who it is and, you know, kind of become the expert and 441 00:33:55,010 --> 00:33:55,929 the insider. 442 00:33:55,930 --> 00:33:57,490 So we want to always give that. 443 00:33:58,290 --> 00:34:02,530 That's one of the reasons why they come here to Us Weekly. The way that we lay 444 00:34:02,530 --> 00:34:05,650 it out, it always does feel like you were like a member of the party there 445 00:34:05,650 --> 00:34:06,650 they love it. 446 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,780 When Bonnie and I worked together as editors at Us Weekly, I broke the story 447 00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:56,739 that Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake had broken up. 448 00:34:56,980 --> 00:34:59,460 And then the next week we had a follow -up to that story. 449 00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:04,340 And we created these soap operas. There was a time when I was on the tabloids 450 00:35:04,340 --> 00:35:06,800 every week for maybe two years straight. 451 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,460 Try every day. And a soap opera. 452 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,740 If you're in a relationship and you're in the tabloids all the time, it's like, 453 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,720 well, maybe that part was true. Maybe it wasn't. Then all of a sudden you're a 454 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,180 victim to believing what they're saying and what they're writing. 455 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,940 Gossip is itself just as much of a product as a movie is. 456 00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:34,450 actual people's lives are turned into a story for us to consume. 457 00:35:35,170 --> 00:35:39,650 For example, with the love triangles of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie and 458 00:35:39,650 --> 00:35:44,450 Jennifer Aniston, and also with Liz Taylor and Eddie Fisher and Debbie 459 00:35:44,450 --> 00:35:45,750 in 1958. 460 00:35:47,590 --> 00:35:52,890 Each of the people in both of these situations was given a role to play. The 461 00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:56,170 temptress, the innocent man in the middle, and then the victim. 462 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,020 And once Jennifer Aniston was made the victim, it's very difficult for her to 463 00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:05,240 become something else. Which is the reason why there's still magazine covers 464 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:09,300 now, years later, saying, you know, Jennifer Aniston can't find love. 465 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:10,620 Aniston can't get over him. 466 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,060 Because that is still her role, is victim. 467 00:36:14,420 --> 00:36:18,040 When really, she's of course found happiness and she's dated other people 468 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,580 whatever. But that has been the role in which she has been slotted. 469 00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:26,800 In the early days of Us Weekly becoming successful, People magazine began to 470 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,380 feature more of these breakups and who's dating whom. 471 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,240 And Us wanted to scoop people at whatever cost so that they could claim 472 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:39,500 exclusive and thus attract bigger newsstand sales. 473 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,860 There was this great photo of Jennifer Lopez reading Us Weekly, and we wanted 474 00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:45,678 that shot. 475 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,280 But People magazine outbid us all day. It kept going up and up and up and up. 476 00:36:50,860 --> 00:36:55,120 People never published those photos, but they paid tens of thousands of dollars 477 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,880 just so that we couldn't publish them. 478 00:36:57,180 --> 00:37:01,840 What happened is a series of bidding wars for photos under Bonnie Fuller and 479 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,020 Janice Min after her. It really escalated the photo price for all 480 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,980 Even small photos inside the magazine, they still wanted to be the only ones 481 00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:12,979 had them. 482 00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:15,460 Bonnie Fuller flipped the demand. 483 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,440 So instead of just tracking the moments when a star was either doing something 484 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,000 scandalous, or doing something that was absolutely glamorous really on. 485 00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:28,480 The paparazzi now needed photos of the stars doing everything in between, which 486 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,320 meant, you know, near 24 -hour surveillance. 487 00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:45,900 Once you spot a car, you look at the last three numbers of the license plate 488 00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:46,900 match with the car. 489 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,120 Nikki Hilton, Black Range Rover. 490 00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:54,580 Paparazzi know all the license plate numbers. They know all the tailplane 491 00:37:54,580 --> 00:37:55,720 numbers of their planes. 492 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,140 They pay people off. 493 00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:03,900 Valet parkers, the doorman at hot restaurants and clubs. 494 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,580 They have a network of informants. 495 00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:26,380 Today, on the other hand, the character is afraid of the photographer. 496 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:32,360 Today, the paparazzo is violent. 497 00:38:35,460 --> 00:38:41,960 The work is becoming a work of vultures, 498 00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:43,880 not of photographers. 499 00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:50,840 When you know you see one, you've got to deal with one guy, and you hope and 500 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,080 pray that he doesn't start calling all his friends, you know? 501 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,740 Within 15 minutes, there are five other people who are there. 502 00:38:58,060 --> 00:39:02,960 Let the two guys get the shot and be done with it. But why there has to be 50 503 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,420 people getting the same shot? 504 00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:09,040 If I saw someone I want to photograph walk out of the house, I sure as hell 505 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,860 wouldn't call my buddies. Why not enjoy the entire piece of steak? 506 00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:15,260 I don't get the whole... 507 00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:17,990 Call friends and relatives and... 508 00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:24,370 It's literally being pursued 509 00:39:24,370 --> 00:39:26,270 like prey, like an animal. 510 00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:31,810 There's no kind of structure. 511 00:39:32,030 --> 00:39:33,430 There's no type of regulations. 512 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:38,190 It's just, just get that picture. Get that shot. I don't care what it takes. 513 00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:45,190 They don't care about breaking the law. 514 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,100 They'll climb a wall and take pictures over the gate. 515 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:51,360 They've done it at my office, in my backyard. 516 00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:52,700 They do it at the helicopter. 517 00:39:54,780 --> 00:39:58,480 You're in your backyard and the helicopter's coming that low and you 518 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,540 running in and it's like a stupid game of, you know. 519 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,160 Have you ever tried to reason? 520 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,820 Have I tried to reason? Oh my God, have I tried to reason? 521 00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:13,340 I have. 522 00:40:13,450 --> 00:40:18,710 I've tried to reason with them. I've had talks about, come on, there's better 523 00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:23,390 things that you can do. You can achieve your dream. I mean, it's stupid. 524 00:40:24,850 --> 00:40:26,610 It's just gotten out of control. 525 00:40:32,670 --> 00:40:37,890 There's certain instances where the paparazzis are going to just overexcite 526 00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:38,890 themselves. 527 00:40:40,370 --> 00:40:42,430 Cameras get broken. People get hurt. 528 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,320 The aggression, the hits, the elbows. 529 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,680 I try to avoid it. 530 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,340 But this is what it's all about. Get that shot, no matter what. 531 00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:07,220 I had a very public relationship that fell apart, and I 532 00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:08,440 was diagnosed with breast cancer. 533 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,740 And I had never been an A -list celebrity before. 534 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,120 I pretty much was this photograph on red carpets and maybe the occasional lunch 535 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,120 at the Ivy or whatever. 536 00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:21,860 But once that happened, once I was diagnosed, and I was going through such 537 00:41:21,860 --> 00:41:27,200 unhappiness and such real dark chaos in my life, I couldn't leave my house. 538 00:41:28,420 --> 00:41:31,840 It really made me, I guess... 539 00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:38,130 start to dissect what it is that would make that such an interesting thing to 540 00:41:38,130 --> 00:41:41,410 photograph, and is that what sells magazines, is seeing somebody at their 541 00:41:41,410 --> 00:41:42,410 lowest. 542 00:41:47,010 --> 00:41:51,370 A word that has become absolutely meaningless today is unspeakable. 543 00:41:51,890 --> 00:41:53,970 There's nothing that's unspeakable anymore. 544 00:41:54,730 --> 00:41:58,270 You know, stars sell you light. They pump gas, too. 545 00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:59,950 They're still a love triangle. 546 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,260 It's degrading the women, especially the way they show women celebrities. 547 00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:13,000 It's just like... I was in Hawaii, and I have 548 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,640 this horrible bikini shot that a paparazzi got, and crap light and a 549 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,880 angle, and it's terrible. 550 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,540 And it was everywhere, and they did everything to make me look like I was 551 00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:26,540 peed. 552 00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:32,330 Sally likes pie. It was just so bad. And I was like, oh, my God, do I look like 553 00:42:32,330 --> 00:42:34,310 this? I have a little girl. 554 00:42:34,730 --> 00:42:38,410 I don't read this in front of her. I don't really read any of my magazines in 555 00:42:38,410 --> 00:42:39,410 front of my daughter. 556 00:42:39,730 --> 00:42:44,290 Because I don't want her to get that bad body image at such a young age. And it 557 00:42:44,290 --> 00:42:48,830 happens really young. I've had little girls as a teacher tell me they're fat 558 00:42:48,830 --> 00:42:49,749 four years old. 559 00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:51,170 Where are you getting this from? 560 00:42:52,750 --> 00:42:55,870 I think the magazines and the media are the catapult. 561 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,720 That's the breeding ground for that. 562 00:43:00,060 --> 00:43:06,000 Whether it be people, us, in style, glamour, vogue, they all portray women 563 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,420 this untouchable goal. 564 00:43:33,070 --> 00:43:37,730 You can create the illusion that someone is a normal, ordinary person. 565 00:43:39,130 --> 00:43:43,470 In other words, Joan Crawford vacuums her own house. Or she has the perfect 566 00:43:43,470 --> 00:43:44,470 family. 567 00:43:45,110 --> 00:43:50,310 Or you can create the illusion that they're aloof, aristocratic goddesses. 568 00:43:50,770 --> 00:43:53,910 But control was the name of the game. 569 00:43:55,650 --> 00:43:59,210 And the whole apparatus grew up around that need. 570 00:44:00,650 --> 00:44:05,430 The studio system determined which movie the stars would appear in. 571 00:44:05,710 --> 00:44:11,990 It also determined where they would live, what cars they would drive, and in 572 00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:14,010 certain cases, who they would marry. 573 00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:18,890 It also provided them with protection. 574 00:44:19,210 --> 00:44:24,890 All of the images came through the studio's publicity department. 575 00:44:25,570 --> 00:44:31,120 So if you were running a fan magazine, And you ran a photograph, which was 576 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,500 unflattering. That was it. You didn't get another photograph, not only of that 577 00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:40,000 star, but of all of the other stars that were working for that particular 578 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,000 studio. 579 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:48,640 If one of their stars was involved in a scandal, the studio would rush right in 580 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,240 and do damage control. 581 00:44:50,540 --> 00:44:51,880 It could be hushed up. 582 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,680 So the control at that time was fairly easy. 583 00:44:57,580 --> 00:44:58,800 It's just not the case anymore. 584 00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:04,760 The mainstream media can say, we won't report about X, Y, or Z, and it's still 585 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,220 going to be widely known because so many are reporting it on the Internet. 586 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:14,400 So the kind of control that celebrities and their managers and their studios 587 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,220 used to have over their images simply does not exist anymore. 588 00:45:22,420 --> 00:45:25,980 TMZ is not about getting the next Tom Cruise interview. It's just not. 589 00:45:26,430 --> 00:45:28,270 And so I don't think there's as much leverage. 590 00:45:28,910 --> 00:45:33,570 Harvey Levin got his start as a lawyer and correspondent covering the O .J. 591 00:45:33,610 --> 00:45:39,110 Simpson trial in the 1990s. Police are banking on blood in the Ford Bronco. He 592 00:45:39,110 --> 00:45:41,070 started TMZ in 2004. 593 00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:46,650 And what TMZ is doing is taking the tactics, the form, the color, the 594 00:45:46,650 --> 00:45:47,970 ethos of confidential. 595 00:45:48,590 --> 00:45:50,170 and just transferring it to new medium. 596 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:53,810 A little over half past the hour now. Here's a look at the stories that you 597 00:45:53,810 --> 00:45:58,250 have missed. Lindsay Lohan. Cable news pushed the network news to be faster and 598 00:45:58,250 --> 00:45:59,250 more immediate. 599 00:45:59,450 --> 00:46:05,550 And now the network news and cable news are in many ways responding to what 600 00:46:05,550 --> 00:46:06,550 happens on the Internet. 601 00:46:18,030 --> 00:46:22,030 Media habits have totally changed. Ways of getting information. 602 00:46:22,750 --> 00:46:24,990 People go online. They don't wait for weekly. 603 00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:27,050 They don't wait for a monthly magazine anymore. 604 00:46:27,310 --> 00:46:30,630 When some news breaks, they want to know now what's going on. 605 00:46:31,870 --> 00:46:35,190 Whenever something happens to Justin Bieber, like his birthday was yesterday, 606 00:46:35,410 --> 00:46:40,930 Google sent to my phone. Word passed and got a new haircut, sent to my phone. 607 00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:44,950 TMZ, just fascinating. I'm obsessed with TMZ .com. 608 00:46:45,630 --> 00:46:46,630 In 2006, 609 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,300 TMZ broke the story of Mel Gibson's arrest, which drove a tremendous amount 610 00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:52,300 traffic to the site. 611 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,020 Since then, TMZ has grown into an incredibly well -read site. 612 00:47:11,340 --> 00:47:12,560 He then went on. 613 00:47:12,860 --> 00:47:16,880 who used the base product, this raw footage from the website, and then came 614 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,260 with a way that he could repackage it on television. 615 00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:21,580 Today on TMZ. 616 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,100 Finally, Snooki is good. 617 00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:25,880 Nicole, you're amazing at WrestleMania. 618 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,840 You did a great job. If you ask around and you say, why do you come to TMZ? 619 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,760 Increasingly, what you're going to hear people say is they seem to get the 620 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,760 stories first. 621 00:47:36,460 --> 00:47:38,120 When I was running MSNBC, 622 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,620 We would do our best to make sure the source was credible, but these news 623 00:47:44,620 --> 00:47:51,340 operations simply don't have the time or the ability to fact -check some of what 624 00:47:51,340 --> 00:47:52,340 they're reporting. 625 00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,140 You know, that was a terrible misquote. 626 00:47:56,700 --> 00:48:01,100 And it's very good that you brought that up. I never said that in that context. 627 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,340 He never talked to those people, and I never talked to those people either. 628 00:48:04,820 --> 00:48:07,300 They make up things. Yeah, they do. 629 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,160 It's very tough, unfortunately, for a celebrity to sue a publication. 630 00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:15,640 You have to prove malice, you have to prove negligence. 631 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,900 Also, a lot of celebrities don't want to draw attention to a story that's 632 00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:26,240 completely wrong or defamatory or give publicity to some blogger who's working 633 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:27,240 out of his garage. 634 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,060 If you sue that person, suddenly you make their site relevant. 635 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,380 I had a big famous lawsuit against the Sun newspaper in Britain a long time ago 636 00:48:35,380 --> 00:48:36,400 in the 80s, which... 637 00:48:36,970 --> 00:48:39,910 Drove me crazy. Went on for a year and a half. They said that I slept with 638 00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:44,070 underage rent boys, gave them drugs, urinated on them. I mean, it made my 639 00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:45,070 hell. 640 00:48:45,330 --> 00:48:48,130 But I got a front -page apology, which was the most important thing for me. 641 00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:49,710 We were wrong. We're sorry. 642 00:48:51,460 --> 00:48:54,480 Now people can just make up what they want on the Internet, and as soon as 643 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,580 put it on the Internet, it goes worldwide, so you're forever denying 644 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:01,660 They discourage you from going after the tabloids. Like a lawyer will be like, 645 00:49:01,660 --> 00:49:05,880 it's going to cost you so much money, and it's going to take so much time, and 646 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,200 it's not going to make a difference, and nobody's going to care about the story 647 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,220 tomorrow, and they convince you to just deal with it. 648 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,440 When all of a sudden you're hearing rumors that are not true on a CNN crawl, 649 00:49:17,860 --> 00:49:19,920 that's sort of go, this is CNN. 650 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:24,140 You know, I don't take it personally at this point, but there was something 651 00:49:24,140 --> 00:49:29,500 about the outlet of CNN that felt like that's a prestigious, you know, channel. 652 00:49:29,980 --> 00:49:34,260 If you respond to certain things, you're right in the sandbox with them. If you 653 00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:38,280 don't respond, the story now grows because of the viral world and because 654 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,280 -hour news cycle. 655 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,440 So we're constantly trying to figure out how to put out a fire. 656 00:49:46,180 --> 00:49:48,660 A perfect example is Tiger Woods. 657 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,900 He didn't say anything. He issued a statement that he had, quote, 658 00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:55,640 and then he disappeared for months. 659 00:49:56,420 --> 00:50:02,140 Women came out of the woodwork, and it ended up being a giant scandal because 660 00:50:02,140 --> 00:50:03,140 let it blow up. 661 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,980 Think of this as a system. Anything that happens here also has a chain reaction 662 00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:12,080 throughout the rest of the industry, like Tiger Woods, who we were being 663 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,020 a very tightly controlled image. 664 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,800 As soon as the scandal broke, you know, a watch company or Nike doesn't want 665 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,160 their name affiliated with this sort of behavior. 666 00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:36,760 Until very recently, major news organizations wouldn't have cited 667 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,000 a TMZ as a source. 668 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,820 And now they do. 669 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,680 There's something beyond just reporting who's making out with whom. 670 00:50:46,780 --> 00:50:49,960 Therein lies the love -hate relationship that we have with someone like Levin. 671 00:50:50,540 --> 00:50:53,940 He's illuminating things that we maybe don't want to know about that we also 672 00:50:53,940 --> 00:50:55,040 feel we should know about. 673 00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:59,760 But then on the flip side, there's a lot of sagging flesh and giving the camera 674 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:00,760 the finger. 675 00:51:02,180 --> 00:51:07,660 So a blog will have unauthorized content that may or may not be false. Maybe in 676 00:51:07,660 --> 00:51:10,400 a post right above or below journalistic content. 677 00:51:16,270 --> 00:51:20,710 It's dictating that we learn how to do our homework, not believe everything 678 00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:23,390 we're reading in blogs because everybody has an angle. 679 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:29,270 We're at a really dangerous spot as far as our inability to discern what is fact 680 00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:30,270 and what is fiction. 681 00:51:34,190 --> 00:51:36,070 You have no choice but to believe what you read. 682 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:42,400 Like this one. Yeah. 683 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,440 But it's probably not even true. 684 00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:47,120 And we'll read it. We'll still read it. 685 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,160 Yeah. 686 00:51:54,420 --> 00:51:58,200 You can't beat the truth of a camera. And this is what the celebrities are 687 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,200 paranoid about. 688 00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:00,900 The camera doesn't lie. 689 00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:04,180 It doesn't stop the Botox. It doesn't stop the surgery. 690 00:52:04,820 --> 00:52:07,640 And it doesn't stop you having sex with a co -star. 691 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,840 This is real. 692 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,920 No one can lie about this picture. 693 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,320 It's there. 694 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,480 And that's one of the great historical significances that photography and the 695 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,480 media bring today. 696 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,100 The problem is with the celebrities, it's instantaneous. 697 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,520 They have no control. 698 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,700 Even when we're talking about authorized photos, there's still a lot that 699 00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:27,840 celebrities can't control. 700 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,900 Pretty much how we receive things back here. 701 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,320 Pretty much their entire body gets retouched. 702 00:52:47,740 --> 00:52:52,260 Well, you can kind of see here where it asks to cut in. 703 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,000 We cut in. 704 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,560 We have to make sure that all the red carpets match. 705 00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:03,120 And it doesn't. 706 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,400 So we're going to have to fix that some other time. 707 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,520 The people in the background that you see. 708 00:53:11,370 --> 00:53:14,470 are not really there or are duplicated. 709 00:53:14,930 --> 00:53:17,110 We get rid of stains on her dress. 710 00:53:19,310 --> 00:53:22,590 And we try to get rid of the wrinkles. 711 00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:28,470 Paparazzi shots need a lot more TLC than a better photo that we get from a, you 712 00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:31,250 know, a great photographer. That's definitely a lot less work. 713 00:53:31,870 --> 00:53:35,130 And let's help her a little bit because she looks a little tired. 714 00:53:35,970 --> 00:53:39,330 Sometimes we get photos that are, you know, green. 715 00:53:40,330 --> 00:53:41,610 Yeah, but we can fix that. 716 00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:48,770 The idea that a picture never lies is simply not true. 717 00:53:49,550 --> 00:53:53,610 A picture captures somebody at a particular moment in time. 718 00:53:54,170 --> 00:53:58,170 A celebrity can tell a joke and pull a face or something, and then when that 719 00:53:58,170 --> 00:54:01,810 person's in trouble, that image will appear, and it'll look like it was shot 720 00:54:01,810 --> 00:54:04,290 the same time in reaction to something that they've done. 721 00:54:04,770 --> 00:54:07,190 So images don't always tell the truth. 722 00:54:08,350 --> 00:54:10,670 It's the context. The context is very important. 723 00:54:11,110 --> 00:54:15,070 So I think people need to be more discerning when they're looking at 724 00:54:15,830 --> 00:54:20,470 Renée Zellweger is probably one of the toughest shots to get because she 725 00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:23,490 really come out and be seen as often as we'd like her to be seen. 726 00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:40,450 I enjoy making her smile and laugh and making her feel good, you know? 727 00:54:42,190 --> 00:54:46,030 Their life is about, you know, seeing the public eye. Because if you're 728 00:54:46,030 --> 00:54:50,210 forgotten, then my camera goes down and then the world doesn't know or even want 729 00:54:50,210 --> 00:54:51,630 to care about who they are anymore. 730 00:54:52,170 --> 00:54:54,550 You know, you'll be gone in a flash. It's called Hollywood. 731 00:54:59,230 --> 00:55:00,610 Who makes them famous? 732 00:55:00,850 --> 00:55:01,910 Well, actually, I do. 733 00:55:02,170 --> 00:55:03,490 They're reliant. 734 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:09,980 on the paparazzi to photograph them to make them money. That's delusional. 735 00:55:10,580 --> 00:55:15,420 That is absolutely delusional. Paparazzis do not keep your career 736 00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:21,660 You know, we're not saying don't take our pictures. We understand there's a 737 00:55:21,660 --> 00:55:28,160 market here, but a photograph of you in your backyard sunbathing topless because 738 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,140 you can and you should be able to, that's a violation. 739 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,600 And a photograph that's in a magazine, there's an agreement that this is my job 740 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,860 and I'm to be photographed. 741 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,340 One is like having someone rob your house and go into your panty drawer, and 742 00:55:44,340 --> 00:55:48,940 other is something artistic and beautiful, and both are in agreement 743 00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:49,940 is going to take place. 744 00:55:50,540 --> 00:55:51,540 There's a difference. 745 00:55:53,020 --> 00:55:55,720 Vitamin Water Zero Hotline, this is Ellen. How can I help you? 746 00:55:56,460 --> 00:56:00,740 As long as you're famous, you've become an enormous commodity in this country. 747 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,920 And news is a business. 748 00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:12,020 Newspaper entities need to sell papers. 749 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:14,140 Websites want traffic. 750 00:56:14,620 --> 00:56:16,720 Television networks want ratings. 751 00:56:20,340 --> 00:56:24,080 Increasingly, the way to get that is to have an entertainment component. 752 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,480 Record -setting weekend. The tune of $30 million. 753 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:33,040 More than $155 million this opening weekend. Every Sunday night, what's the 754 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,180 first item we see on the news? How much money a movie made over the weekend? 755 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:42,700 Avatar is at the number one spot. I mean, Avatar hit a billion, and it's 756 00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:44,600 than the security breach at the airport. 757 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:45,960 It's bigger news. 758 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:47,240 Why? 759 00:56:47,860 --> 00:56:51,520 Nick Patton Walsh joining us live from Kabul, Afghanistan. Many thanks. 760 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:56,120 She made sure he got the message. Wait until you hear about Charlie Sheen. The 761 00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:02,740 concept of hard news has really changed. A lot of what used to be 762 00:57:02,740 --> 00:57:05,300 considered tabloid is now mainstream. 763 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,920 Frankly, they stop telling important news about the world and they just tell 764 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:16,380 gossip. Maybe you need it. Like sometimes you can only watch so many 765 00:57:16,380 --> 00:57:20,040 somebody's gotten stabbed like all day long. And you know what I mean? Like 766 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,860 there's a flood here. There's an earthquake there. Like maybe you kind of 767 00:57:23,860 --> 00:57:25,540 to know the new shirt that Brad Pitt's wearing. 768 00:57:27,050 --> 00:57:30,350 Who doesn't like a good Hollywood escape from time to time? 769 00:57:30,570 --> 00:57:37,010 There's an argument that celebrities act as infotainment, actually 770 00:57:37,010 --> 00:57:42,050 often helping issues of real concern getting into the public domain. 771 00:57:42,350 --> 00:57:47,350 So, for instance, if tragically a celebrity is ill with breast cancer or 772 00:57:47,350 --> 00:57:49,310 something like that, it does raise awareness. 773 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,880 But there's concern on the other hand that focusing so much on the minutiae of 774 00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,960 how famous people live their lives is just diverting attention from issues 775 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,260 the press should be filling their pages with. 776 00:58:03,620 --> 00:58:06,080 Sarah Palin, entertainment or journalism? 777 00:58:06,340 --> 00:58:12,420 Sarah Palin is a very good example of the way in which celebrity culture has 778 00:58:12,420 --> 00:58:14,020 influenced politics. 779 00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:20,790 I mean, say what you will about Sarah Palin. She has been brilliant in 780 00:58:20,790 --> 00:58:21,850 manipulating her image. 781 00:58:22,090 --> 00:58:25,830 What an adrenaline wreck. I think there's real indecision over whether or 782 00:58:25,830 --> 00:58:28,710 Sarah Palin really wants to be president or if she just wants to be a celebrity. 783 00:58:28,990 --> 00:58:29,990 I think it's unclear. 784 00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:34,750 It certainly is the question that's united Hollywood and Washington. 785 00:58:35,210 --> 00:58:37,990 You know, democracy becomes another reality show. 786 00:58:38,250 --> 00:58:41,230 Is Trump actually serious about running for president? 787 00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:43,750 That's not good for anyone. 788 00:58:47,850 --> 00:58:53,630 If the mainstream media were to fold and celebrity tabloids were the only people 789 00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:59,350 out there publishing, it would mean that our entire system of democracy has 790 00:58:59,350 --> 00:59:00,350 collapsed. 791 00:59:01,110 --> 00:59:07,630 Democracy relies on an informed electorate to make educated decisions at 792 00:59:07,630 --> 00:59:08,630 ballot box. 793 00:59:08,910 --> 00:59:14,790 You can only do that if you have access to truthful, timely information. 794 00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:19,730 The public has a lot of responsibility here. 795 00:59:21,110 --> 00:59:24,390 The paparazzi doesn't get away with this in a vacuum. 796 00:59:25,550 --> 00:59:31,070 So I think citizens need to step up and start valuing that information they're 797 00:59:31,070 --> 00:59:32,730 getting from their local newsgatherers. 798 00:59:34,830 --> 00:59:37,210 This is the Paris Hilton story, okay? 799 00:59:37,470 --> 00:59:41,370 Hold on a second. I'm going to make a point. We're not covering this, all 800 00:59:41,490 --> 00:59:45,990 Yeah, exactly. I'm done with the Paris Hilton story. What do you have against 801 00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:49,730 Paris Hilton? I have nothing against Paris Hilton. That was not the issue. 802 00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:55,130 The issue was the story and whether or not it was worthy as the lead that 803 00:59:55,130 --> 00:59:56,130 morning. 804 01:00:09,930 --> 01:00:14,110 I think at this point it's getting to be supply leading demand because, I mean, 805 01:00:14,130 --> 01:00:16,650 look at how many magazines there are now. 806 01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:18,170 Like, do we really need that? 807 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:21,030 But people keep picking them up. 808 01:00:24,570 --> 01:00:27,630 I'll walk through an airport and there'll be three out of four people 809 01:00:27,630 --> 01:00:31,410 this magazine and I'll walk through and no one will notice me, which is great, 810 01:00:31,630 --> 01:00:34,130 but there is some irony there. 811 01:00:35,010 --> 01:00:37,670 And I understand it because I can get sucked into it. I can spin. 812 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,860 20 minutes on an airplane and flip through that stuff. 813 01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:45,580 And I can be in that world, reading about who's dating who or looking at 814 01:00:45,580 --> 01:00:47,220 somebody's cellulite on a beach or whatever. 815 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,440 And it makes me feel awful. 816 01:00:55,380 --> 01:00:58,920 You know, the celebrities are famous people. They know that. 817 01:00:59,420 --> 01:01:03,500 They work hard, I think, to become a celebrity in the first place. And then 818 01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:07,280 got their picture all over the magazine, so I don't feel guilty at all. 819 01:01:07,770 --> 01:01:11,650 Plus, I'm buying the magazines. It costs me a little bit of money to even buy 820 01:01:11,650 --> 01:01:14,170 the magazine, so I don't feel guilty. 821 01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:17,930 It comes with your job. You asked for this life. 822 01:01:18,530 --> 01:01:21,670 You wanted to be in the limelight, in the spotlight, so deal with it. 823 01:01:22,190 --> 01:01:26,230 Yeah, you know, I kind of asked for this life and kind of knew that this was 824 01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:27,630 part of it that comes with it. 825 01:01:28,070 --> 01:01:30,790 But, I mean, the same way, you know, the magazines make money, they make money 826 01:01:30,790 --> 01:01:33,430 for me. You know, they get the word out that I have a record out there. 827 01:01:34,010 --> 01:01:36,970 Put me in some light that hopefully shines and people connect to and make 828 01:01:36,970 --> 01:01:37,970 want to hear my record. 829 01:01:39,690 --> 01:01:40,990 There's a price to fame. 830 01:01:41,810 --> 01:01:46,510 Are you willing to pay it? Yes. Part of your job is promoting your work. 831 01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:50,850 But not... I don't think it's your job when you're going to a yoga class. 832 01:01:51,070 --> 01:01:52,090 That's not your job. 833 01:01:52,410 --> 01:01:53,990 That's an invasion of privacy. 834 01:01:54,250 --> 01:01:55,370 And they need to stop. 835 01:01:55,970 --> 01:01:58,290 Look, I have a great life. 836 01:01:59,410 --> 01:02:00,410 I... 837 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,460 Wouldn't trade myself even with the paparazzi following me. 838 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,740 But not because I have a great life. 839 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,120 They should feel like they own it. 840 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,020 We represented Barbra Streisand for many, many years. 841 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,100 And I got into the habit of carrying a large... 842 01:02:29,690 --> 01:02:34,410 black umbrella, whether the weather called for it or not. 843 01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:39,990 And if I saw photographers coming towards us, I would open the umbrella, 844 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:44,270 like two fools, we would walk down the street with the umbrella in front of me, 845 01:02:44,330 --> 01:02:48,330 so the photographers would not take a picture. She did not want a picture 846 01:02:49,170 --> 01:02:54,490 On the other hand, Frank Sinatra, who we represented, controlled that part of 847 01:02:54,490 --> 01:02:55,490 his celebrity. 848 01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:58,010 By never appearing in public. 849 01:02:59,770 --> 01:03:01,230 Sinatra wouldn't walk down the street. 850 01:03:02,110 --> 01:03:04,210 If he had to go from here to there, he was in a car. 851 01:03:04,550 --> 01:03:07,550 Do you remember when we were in the trunk of somebody's car trying to get 852 01:03:08,930 --> 01:03:09,930 In Gina's car? 853 01:03:10,190 --> 01:03:14,390 We were just laying in the trunk. I was like, when did this happen? I wanted to 854 01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:15,390 go shopping. 855 01:03:15,790 --> 01:03:19,210 I'm in the trunk with my girlfriend and I'm like, this is your life? 856 01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:22,830 There's nothing you can do about it? I was like, I beg to differ. 857 01:03:23,370 --> 01:03:24,510 I beg to differ. 858 01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:28,260 You feel out of control, like you have no control over this, and then you 859 01:03:28,260 --> 01:03:30,380 realize, I have to actually change my life. 860 01:03:31,060 --> 01:03:36,840 We've moved out of Miami. We've taken measures to just, you know, sort of 861 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,020 concentrate on the quality of life. 862 01:03:40,740 --> 01:03:44,600 There's a lot of places where you can live where there are not paparazzi. 863 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,780 You don't have to be in the public eye. 864 01:03:48,130 --> 01:03:52,730 There's ways to avoid the cameras and then they'll say well, she's isolated. 865 01:03:52,970 --> 01:03:56,390 She lives a rarefied life She doesn't know she doesn't have a human touch. 866 01:03:56,390 --> 01:04:00,470 not what I'm desperate to be like you and you and you 867 01:04:20,690 --> 01:04:24,830 The problem always is that certain celebrities invite in the attention. 868 01:04:25,330 --> 01:04:29,650 And so the response of the media is, well, we're getting called. 869 01:04:30,010 --> 01:04:33,910 They should have an agreement. You know, the reality, whether it's the Paris 870 01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:39,330 Hiltons or the girls that don't have an issue with it, the Jersey Shores, all of 871 01:04:39,330 --> 01:04:42,690 those television shows, there should be an agreement. But that doesn't mean that 872 01:04:42,690 --> 01:04:46,730 everybody else is a free for all. What could any guy want more than this? 873 01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:53,200 A lot of the time, they're told where to be and when. 874 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,500 It becomes kind of a game. 875 01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:10,140 I'll just either tip you or they'll give an information out indirectly what the 876 01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:13,920 client won't even know just to build more hype. They're supposed to. That's 877 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:14,920 their job. 878 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,680 You know, Twitter has become another source. 879 01:05:20,740 --> 01:05:27,100 One time, we 880 01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:32,500 had a source that was giving us specific, incredible information. It was 881 01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:34,660 as if it was coming from Angelina Jolie's mouth herself. 882 01:05:35,180 --> 01:05:41,640 On when Pitt flew into Africa, private little resort, we had three or four 883 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,720 minutes to get the picture that was bought in an auction overnight by Us 884 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:46,720 magazine. 885 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,300 Unauthorized publicity definitely has a role in maintaining a star's visibility. 886 01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:58,020 And I think that today, celebrities have learned to allow just enough coverage 887 01:05:58,020 --> 01:06:02,420 so as to make it seem like you are, you know, giving some of yourself, but at 888 01:06:02,420 --> 01:06:04,400 the same time maintaining a semblance of privacy. 889 01:06:05,020 --> 01:06:09,560 I mean, someone like Brad and Angelina have a really meticulously maintained 890 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:14,600 star image, but they also allow slight moments of authenticity that make them 891 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:15,600 interesting. 892 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:23,580 Angelina Jolie knows exactly the moment that you need to have this particular 893 01:06:23,580 --> 01:06:28,400 part of her persona exposed to the world, this particular part of her life 894 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,320 exposed to the world. She's brilliant at it. 895 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,520 You have to constantly be able to reinvent yourself, and the ones who stay 896 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:41,080 before us really are the ones who, one way or another, manage to do something 897 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,860 that keeps us interested and fascinated. 898 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,800 That, to me, smells celebrity double standards. 899 01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:51,100 I don't agree with it. I think it's completely and utterly wrong. 900 01:06:51,340 --> 01:06:56,040 Like Angelina and Brad Pitt say, under my terms, I'll put my children on the 901 01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:00,420 front of a magazine for $15 million, but when you're photographing me in a 902 01:07:00,420 --> 01:07:05,500 public place, that's not on. I don't understand that. That was a very 903 01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:09,680 interesting case. We worked with them for free. They wanted all the money to 904 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,140 to charities that worked perfectly. 905 01:07:11,820 --> 01:07:16,200 The value of an exclusive image is very high because that baby or that wedding 906 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,640 hasn't been photographed before. 907 01:07:17,980 --> 01:07:23,080 So if we can work with the celebrities and get those pictures out first, it is 908 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,760 massive disincentive to the paparazzi to chase after them because they're not 909 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,900 going to get a lot of money for the third picture of the baby when the first 910 01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:32,280 pictures have been published everywhere. 911 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:36,840 Publicity. 912 01:07:37,980 --> 01:07:40,260 You know, it's a game played. 913 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:46,420 for the benefit of everyone involved, up to a certain point. 914 01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:50,480 And that certain point is where it gets dangerous. 915 01:08:00,500 --> 01:08:06,060 Drive out the garage, couple yards down the street, one, two, three, four cars, 916 01:08:06,180 --> 01:08:09,060 they'd all be smoking cigarettes, waiting for you to come out, jump in 917 01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:10,780 cars, and then you're off. 918 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,840 The main car runs a yellow light. 919 01:08:14,140 --> 01:08:18,240 Everybody behind that person, 10 cars, is running lights until it turns green 920 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:23,180 again. Then you find yourself driving kind of like crazy just to get away from 921 01:08:23,180 --> 01:08:26,640 them. One in the front, one in the back, one on the side. You feel like a 922 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:27,538 trapped rat. 923 01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:30,380 It's a matter of playing chicken. Either you're going to stop or you're going to 924 01:08:30,380 --> 01:08:31,380 crash into the car. 925 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,779 Nicole Richie, you know, was chased by a paparazzi and got in a car accident. 926 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,240 Thank God her children are in the car. 927 01:08:58,340 --> 01:09:00,319 It can get really dangerous. 928 01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:02,580 Look what happened to Diana. 929 01:09:07,790 --> 01:09:11,830 Reports say a vehicle carrying the princess and her entourage was being 930 01:09:11,830 --> 01:09:12,830 by photographers. 931 01:09:13,069 --> 01:09:17,130 Several hours after the accident, French emergency services were still at the 932 01:09:17,130 --> 01:09:19,270 scene cutting people from the wreckage. 933 01:09:23,850 --> 01:09:26,609 This is not a time for recriminations, but for sadness. 934 01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:31,109 However, I would say that I always believed the press would kill her in the 935 01:09:31,569 --> 01:09:35,130 But not even I could imagine that they would take such a direct hand in her 936 01:09:35,130 --> 01:09:36,689 death as seems to be the case. 937 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,859 it would appear that every proprietor and editor of every publication that has 938 01:09:41,859 --> 01:09:46,760 paid for intrusive and exploitative photographs of her, encouraging greedy 939 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:51,060 ruthless individuals to risk everything in pursuit of Diana's image, has blood 940 01:09:51,060 --> 01:09:52,060 on his hands today. 941 01:09:56,140 --> 01:10:00,020 Well, if the publishers had blood on their hands today, so do the readers of 942 01:10:00,020 --> 01:10:01,020 those magazines. 943 01:10:02,260 --> 01:10:07,760 After the whole shock of her death, People started putting flowers outside 944 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:13,380 Buckingham Palace and several legitimate news photographers were assaulted 945 01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:17,420 because they were taking photographs of people putting the flowers down. 946 01:10:17,860 --> 01:10:24,420 The people who assaulted them were the same people who had bought the magazines 947 01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:29,400 that made her image a valuable commodity. 948 01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:33,780 Photographers would not have chased her. 949 01:10:34,380 --> 01:10:36,880 if they couldn't have got good money for those photographs. 950 01:10:37,660 --> 01:10:41,460 And it was the people who were buying the magazines that was ultimately 951 01:10:41,460 --> 01:10:43,200 supplying that money. 952 01:10:45,260 --> 01:10:49,540 When Princess Diana died, there was this sense of, wow, this is going to change 953 01:10:49,540 --> 01:10:52,540 everything. What was sort of the immediate impact in England? 954 01:10:53,260 --> 01:10:58,860 I think media interest in Princess Diana and particularly her death led to a 955 01:10:58,860 --> 01:10:59,860 change of culture. 956 01:11:00,270 --> 01:11:04,590 The commercial demand for those kind of photos fell. 957 01:11:05,390 --> 01:11:10,230 But unfortunately, in the last few years, as the younger royals are 958 01:11:10,230 --> 01:11:14,890 join the family, the media interest in them and the intrusion is escalating 959 01:11:14,890 --> 01:11:15,890 again. 960 01:11:20,030 --> 01:11:23,790 On the big day of viewing parties at London's iconic Trafalgar Square. The 961 01:11:23,790 --> 01:11:27,950 moment the world was waiting for. The first real chance at the royal wedding. 962 01:11:28,190 --> 01:11:32,450 Three minute walk into history. A billion tears of eyes. On a fairy tale 963 01:11:32,450 --> 01:11:33,870 recalling living and breathing. 964 01:11:34,230 --> 01:11:35,870 Echoes of Diana's I do. 965 01:11:36,150 --> 01:11:40,690 It reminds me so much of Diana. We have got a new video. 966 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,820 What I love about teaching history is to say, well this isn't the first time 967 01:12:02,820 --> 01:12:03,820 this has happened. 968 01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:10,700 You can go back and show how it all happened before. 969 01:12:21,770 --> 01:12:28,450 We stopped with the motorcycles, we went there, we helped to get out of the car, 970 01:12:28,830 --> 01:12:34,170 and then we took the pictures. 971 01:12:35,670 --> 01:12:37,890 But this is a human sense. 972 01:12:39,330 --> 01:12:45,610 After Diana's events, they were practically cancelled. 973 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,440 You wouldn't want to be called a paparazzi. 974 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,960 I am a photojournalist. 975 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,080 It's an art. 976 01:13:24,180 --> 01:13:25,220 No, they're not journalists. 977 01:13:25,500 --> 01:13:26,720 Paparazzi are people with a camera. 978 01:13:27,940 --> 01:13:32,080 Anyone can get a camera. You can go to the drugstore and buy a disposable 979 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,960 camera. Now you're taking pictures. You're all of a sudden this journalist. 980 01:13:35,420 --> 01:13:36,720 No way are they a journalist. 981 01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:41,200 If they're allowed to do it, if they're allowed to chase you, if they're allowed 982 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,400 to invade your privacy and they know they're going to make money off of it. 983 01:13:46,650 --> 01:13:47,629 They're not going to stop. 984 01:13:47,630 --> 01:13:51,270 If you're a photographer, take a decent photograph. Go and learn your trade. 985 01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:55,430 Make some beautiful photographs like Irving Penn or something like that. What 986 01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:57,850 you do is just crap. It's crap. 987 01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:59,670 It must be frustrating. 988 01:14:00,650 --> 01:14:02,130 It must be frustrating. 989 01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:07,570 What I think might be even more frustrating is to never see a 990 01:14:07,570 --> 01:14:08,570 again. 991 01:14:15,370 --> 01:14:17,650 Paparazzi are doing journalism. 992 01:14:18,030 --> 01:14:20,390 They are gathering information. 993 01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:25,350 They are telling a story of some sort and disseminating it to an audience. 994 01:14:29,150 --> 01:14:34,230 The First Amendment protects artists in their ability to be creative and 995 01:14:34,230 --> 01:14:37,890 sometimes risque. And it also protects the paparazzi. 996 01:14:39,150 --> 01:14:43,950 But it doesn't necessarily mean that it protects against each and every action. 997 01:14:44,410 --> 01:14:46,510 There definitely are limits to free speech. 998 01:14:46,770 --> 01:14:50,590 You don't get to publish false things about somebody. 999 01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:55,250 You don't get to publish obscenity, child pornography. 1000 01:14:55,670 --> 01:15:02,150 You do not get to invade someone's privacy by shooting with a long 1001 01:15:02,150 --> 01:15:03,670 lens into somebody's bedroom. 1002 01:15:03,950 --> 01:15:06,970 The Supreme Court has said you don't get to do those things. 1003 01:15:08,590 --> 01:15:12,490 You tell me this kind of behavior is covered by what... 1004 01:15:12,750 --> 01:15:14,870 Journalism should be covered, that's just bull. 1005 01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:21,430 These 1006 01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:28,410 people 1007 01:15:28,410 --> 01:15:30,190 are behaving terribly. 1008 01:15:30,770 --> 01:15:34,770 It's beyond rude and crude and unacceptable. 1009 01:15:35,890 --> 01:15:40,890 But it's very hard to legislate good behavior. 1010 01:15:41,550 --> 01:15:44,110 I'm not somebody for more laws and more laws and more laws. 1011 01:15:44,490 --> 01:15:48,010 To see who can shoot a picture and who can't and where they can put it and what 1012 01:15:48,010 --> 01:15:50,950 they can do. I mean, that's part of the beauty of our society is the freedoms. 1013 01:15:50,990 --> 01:15:55,530 But there's got to be something that we can stand up morally as a culture and 1014 01:15:55,530 --> 01:15:58,870 say, hey, that's not cool taking a picture of that kid over there. Cut it 1015 01:16:00,950 --> 01:16:07,870 I love to walk my son to school because it's the time of 1016 01:16:07,870 --> 01:16:09,010 day that he's very open. 1017 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,740 The whole world is interesting to him. 1018 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:18,680 And to have long lenses aimed at you, purposefully getting in your, never mind 1019 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,640 your physical path, but your emotional path, it's actually a scary feeling. 1020 01:16:25,020 --> 01:16:28,580 Like having sharpshooters aimed at you. 1021 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,200 The more intimate shots are the ones that people criticize. 1022 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,660 Oh, why don't you leave them alone? But there is a demand for it. 1023 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:48,280 We just shoot and submit them into the library. It's up to the agencies, the 1024 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,060 publications, the TV networks, the websites and blogs. 1025 01:16:55,780 --> 01:17:02,540 Wherever you read it or saw it, ask them 1026 01:17:02,540 --> 01:17:04,360 why do they publish it. 1027 01:17:04,700 --> 01:17:08,520 Cute kids are popular, and celebrities have a lot of cute kids. A lot of women 1028 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:09,880 love to look at cute babies. 1029 01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:20,920 Now they're having covers of these magazines. It's like, who's the cutest 1030 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:21,920 Hollywood baby? 1031 01:17:23,340 --> 01:17:29,620 They haven't decided to become a famous person, so you can't do that to them. 1032 01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:35,860 There are so many outlets now to sell pictures of celebrity kids, and there's 1033 01:17:35,860 --> 01:17:40,340 much money to be made in it. You can't even argue with somebody about the 1034 01:17:40,340 --> 01:17:41,179 of it. 1035 01:17:41,180 --> 01:17:44,680 You know, I can't explain to somebody, I'm a high -profile person, but my son 1036 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,660 isn't, and just because he's with me, it's not like a handbag. You know, he's 1037 01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:52,520 person. And it's worrisome. You know, it's really worrisome. 1038 01:17:54,180 --> 01:17:55,640 Stop. Stop. 1039 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,120 Stop. How's your day going, Brittany? 1040 01:17:58,560 --> 01:17:59,560 Stop. 1041 01:18:00,460 --> 01:18:04,580 You ever flash these lights at my kid again, I'm going to push your face to 1042 01:18:04,580 --> 01:18:08,840 back of your head. Hey, back, get back, back, back, back. That includes you. 1043 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:09,920 Yeah, I know, I know. 1044 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,040 Stop it. 1045 01:18:12,500 --> 01:18:13,500 It's yours. 1046 01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,620 Stop taking pictures. 1047 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,040 Stop it. 1048 01:18:17,980 --> 01:18:18,980 I'm not kidding. 1049 01:18:19,260 --> 01:18:21,520 I don't care if you want to put it on my face. 1050 01:18:22,020 --> 01:18:23,380 Stop taking pictures. 1051 01:18:25,340 --> 01:18:26,340 Stop it. 1052 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,620 The thought is, devastating to me. It's frightening. 1053 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:33,320 Terribly frightening to me. 1054 01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:37,500 Wow, it really just made me really upset to think about that, right? I mean, to 1055 01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:44,400 have someone following your children is... It's entering a place that no 1056 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,400 one should be. 1057 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,620 Leave children out of it. They didn't ask to be famous, and they have their 1058 01:18:52,620 --> 01:18:53,620 rights, too. 1059 01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,220 You know, the kids ought to be doing the suing. 1060 01:18:56,970 --> 01:19:00,050 And that might be a way legally to get some traction on it. 1061 01:19:01,930 --> 01:19:06,090 There are very different laws of privacy via the English courts than the 1062 01:19:06,090 --> 01:19:07,090 American courts. 1063 01:19:07,570 --> 01:19:12,930 J .K. Rowling brought proceedings on behalf of her very young son, and it was 1064 01:19:12,930 --> 01:19:17,430 held that her son had a reasonable expectation of privacy, that he wouldn't 1065 01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:19,890 followed around by photographers on the street. 1066 01:19:20,250 --> 01:19:23,430 in the same way that any ordinary child wouldn't be photographed by the 1067 01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:28,030 paparazzi. And it was a landmark case because it established that the children 1068 01:19:28,030 --> 01:19:32,710 of famous people should be treated in the same way as the children of ordinary 1069 01:19:32,710 --> 01:19:37,130 parents. A three -year -old suing me in court, I think, is wrong. I mean, I 1070 01:19:37,130 --> 01:19:38,350 think it's absolutely ridiculous. 1071 01:19:39,470 --> 01:19:43,730 The fact of the matter is, the J .K. Rowling case, I didn't lose the case. 1072 01:19:43,730 --> 01:19:46,770 was just given the right to go to a trial. But it was, you know, you take on 1073 01:19:46,770 --> 01:19:49,270 world's richest woman, and, you know, it was David and Goliath. 1074 01:19:49,550 --> 01:19:52,630 In France, they can't take a picture of my child. It's illegal. 1075 01:19:53,630 --> 01:19:57,430 It's night and day if you compare Paris to Los Angeles or New York. 1076 01:19:59,510 --> 01:20:03,590 Here in the United States, probably any judge under the law is going to say, 1077 01:20:03,710 --> 01:20:08,090 hey, no, you don't get to follow them wherever. You know, the very first case 1078 01:20:08,090 --> 01:20:14,010 out there, Jacqueline Kennedy had a lawsuit against Ron Galella because she 1079 01:20:14,010 --> 01:20:17,610 concerned for the safety of Caroline and young John. 1080 01:20:18,060 --> 01:20:23,500 And she was able to get it declared in New York that he had to stay a certain 1081 01:20:23,500 --> 01:20:26,460 distance away from those children. 1082 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:33,860 Since then, there's pretty much been a truth around presidential children. 1083 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,380 But I think it's a little bit different from what children of celebrities 1084 01:20:38,380 --> 01:20:39,380 experience. 1085 01:20:43,740 --> 01:20:46,420 I remember it was night. 1086 01:20:47,470 --> 01:20:48,730 And it was really cold. 1087 01:20:50,130 --> 01:20:53,790 So imagine the flashes on a baby that's like two months, three months old. 1088 01:20:54,590 --> 01:21:00,310 So I told my mom, take her. And when they were taking my picture, they were 1089 01:21:00,310 --> 01:21:03,550 over. They didn't care. They pushed the baby. They pushed the baby. It nearly 1090 01:21:03,550 --> 01:21:04,550 went to the floor. 1091 01:21:04,970 --> 01:21:07,410 And then, of course, I charged after the photographer. 1092 01:21:08,770 --> 01:21:13,650 I made sure the baby was okay. And I was just so angry. 1093 01:21:13,870 --> 01:21:15,470 My child could have had it. 1094 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,120 A really serious accident. 1095 01:21:17,420 --> 01:21:21,100 I mean, when you're two or three on the street, he could have stepped on her. 1096 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,200 That just ought to be illegal. 1097 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:24,680 It's a little criminal. 1098 01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:31,440 There should be certain rules, I think. 1099 01:21:35,740 --> 01:21:40,400 I just feel like it's an invasion of privacy and that these kids really don't 1100 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,200 need that kind of attention at this point in their lives. 1101 01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:49,020 Even if their mum or their dad is the famous one, it doesn't give them the 1102 01:21:49,020 --> 01:21:51,800 paparazzi no right. The children have nothing to do with it. Yeah, but that's 1103 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,500 what everyone wants to see. Everyone wants to see their kids, don't they? 1104 01:21:54,500 --> 01:21:56,180 but they do it. I suppose. 1105 01:21:56,700 --> 01:21:57,700 True. Yeah. 1106 01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:03,280 It's kind of sad, but it makes me more interested in what the kids are doing 1107 01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,740 because that's a new generation of celebrities coming up. 1108 01:22:19,340 --> 01:22:25,740 The public has to take some degree of responsibility and demand that 1109 01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:29,160 these sort of photographs not be published. 1110 01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:36,440 That they put pressure, economic, political, social pressure on media 1111 01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:38,280 entities to say, we don't want this. 1112 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:39,960 We won't have it. 1113 01:22:48,140 --> 01:22:49,140 No, we are working. 1114 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:51,040 Wow. 1115 01:22:58,700 --> 01:23:04,080 I took a total of 289 pictures today. 1116 01:23:07,180 --> 01:23:12,100 Here at Us Weekly, we get about 750 ,000 to a million images a month. 1117 01:23:13,180 --> 01:23:16,180 The images are coming at us from all different angles. 1118 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,260 And anybody whose eyes are working will see about a thousand images a day. We 1119 01:23:21,260 --> 01:23:25,200 should be asking ourselves, what's happening in this photo? Where it was 1120 01:23:25,380 --> 01:23:26,380 When it was taken? 1121 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:28,640 Context is everything. 1122 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:35,400 We are drenched and piled over with media coverage. 1123 01:23:36,780 --> 01:23:40,060 I'm not going to say it's good for us or bad for us. 1124 01:23:41,460 --> 01:23:42,980 It is what it is. 1125 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,780 And we're going to have to make the best of it. 1126 01:23:48,430 --> 01:23:52,810 We watch tabloid magazine television shows, and we buy the magazines, and 1127 01:23:52,810 --> 01:23:53,930 invested in reality TV. 1128 01:23:54,350 --> 01:23:59,910 But we don't have an interconnectedness that is personal, where we're sitting in 1129 01:23:59,910 --> 01:24:00,910 front of each other. 1130 01:24:02,530 --> 01:24:05,450 It's become the disease of our culture, celebrity. 1131 01:24:16,379 --> 01:24:19,720 We are complicit in the driving of this industry. 1132 01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:24,620 It's something that we should think about, we should analyze, and what we 1133 01:24:24,620 --> 01:24:27,100 to actually enact change is action. 1134 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:32,160 Be aware. 1135 01:24:33,620 --> 01:24:36,740 Don't be naive about where these pictures are coming from. 1136 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,540 They sell it because there's a market for it. 1137 01:24:42,380 --> 01:24:44,360 Consider where you're going to place value. 1138 01:24:46,300 --> 01:24:48,700 We don't have to watch it. We don't have to read it. 1139 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:52,540 I've been guilty of it myself. 1140 01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,380 I try to be a little more conscious of it. Like, if you're going to have fun 1141 01:24:55,380 --> 01:24:58,200 and, you know, see what's going on in the celebrity world, you should at least 1142 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,440 be a little more conscious about what's going on in the real world. 1143 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,220 Somebody in the Army or Marines, that's celebrity. 1144 01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:09,980 Doctors that save lives, teachers. 1145 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,580 Cops, firefighters, you know, that's a celebrity. 1146 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,600 You want to really get down to it. 1147 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:26,620 All I wanted when I got into this industry was make some money, make a lot 1148 01:25:26,620 --> 01:25:28,500 money, make history. 1149 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:35,520 Tomorrow, wake up, get out there, do it again. 1150 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,800 What's your opinion on the 1151 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:35,040 paparazzi? 1152 01:27:04,099 --> 01:27:06,840 Like, Jesus Christ could have come back. 1153 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,400 After a few thousand years, forgive us of all our sins. Somebody get a picture, 1154 01:27:10,500 --> 01:27:13,900 put it on TMZ. The first comment would be, Jesus is a fucking douchebag. 1155 01:27:14,340 --> 01:27:15,340 You know what I mean? 1156 01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:18,480 Desire. 1157 01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,160 Someone's glad they ain't fucking with me, that's all. 1158 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,940 Can I run one over now? Is that against the law? Did I get their point for that? 1159 01:27:27,220 --> 01:27:31,740 If I pick three or four, especially the big guy, I gotta get like five points 1160 01:27:31,740 --> 01:27:32,740 from him, right? 1161 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,820 My wife got papped at JFK last night. 1162 01:27:44,140 --> 01:27:47,700 Well, if you're blonde with a Louis Vuitton bag, they were right in her 1163 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,640 She goes, he was right in my face. 1164 01:27:50,860 --> 01:27:53,800 And then just walked away like nothing happened. 102598

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