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And we love you.
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Let me hear you say, oh, yeah.
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audience:
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- Earth, Wind & Firekind of said, I have joy,
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and I have imagination,
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and I will force that
onto the world,
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whether they are
ready for it or not.
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- Maurice Whiteand Earth, Wind & Fire
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really embraced that music
could have a higher purpose.
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♪ Gonna bring it down ♪
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- I always thoughtof Earth, Wind & Fire
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as Jesus-less gospel music.
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♪ All night long ♪
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The funk was the funk,
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but the chords werejazz, classical.
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Meanwhile, it's sitting
on this tribal African beat.
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- Maurice wanted to showthat it is not just Black.
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It is not just white.
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We are all one.
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- They were reflecting backthe joy
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that we felt in our lives.
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It made you feel like
anything was possible.
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From 1971 through 1983,
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the group Earth, Wind & Firesold 40 million albums,
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had 30 hit singles,and won six Grammys.
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It's just like a whole world
that they created.
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Astrology and numerology
and mysticism.
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It was magic.
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It was theater.
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You're thinking
they're coming from Africa,
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or they're comingfrom outer space.
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It was really
ahead of its time.
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I think it took a moment
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for everyone to go,
what the heck?
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What is--what is this?
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Like, where did these people
come from
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with this musicthat sounds like this?
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♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
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Ignition, liftoff.
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Liftoff.
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Hey.
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♪ They got your name today ♪
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♪ We got to get away ♪
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- There's nothing likean idea whose time has come.
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♪ Yeah, yeah, away ♪
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♪ We've got to get away ♪
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I'm serious, man.
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Then you're all in focus.
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Okay, do you want
some direction,
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or do you to just hang out,
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and we'll do
whatever comes up?
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Direct us for a while,
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then we'll just hang out.
Let's do it all.
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Okay. Get tighter.
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Maybe put a mic on Maurice.
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- I think Earth, Wind & Firecame out of a need,
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a dual need, a need
for myself as an individual
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to realize my total potential
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in a sense of speaking.
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And also, from another sense,
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it came from a part of me
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wanting to render itselfto humanity.
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Maurice was very driven,
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very committed to the music
and the concept of this group.
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- Maurice,he was the visionary.
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And the power belongs
to the visionary.
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We'll take a break,
and we'll do another one.
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- People can't leadthemselves.
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They've gotta have somebody
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to the promised land.
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That's what it's all about,
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reaching for new things,you know?
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Life was aboutdiscovery for me.
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I was alwaysin search of myself.
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I was born
in Memphis, Tennessee.
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I was raised
in Memphis, Tennessee.
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It was a good beginning for mebecause it gave me
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an opportunityto understand the balance
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between good and bad.
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There was a lotof separation in town.
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- His birth mother, Edna,was his only family.
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She was a wonderful mother,
but a young mother.
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I think she had Maurice at 17.
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My mother was a singer,
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singing around the houseand all that.
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She was very encouragingin the sense of pushing me.
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- In Memphis, there wasnot enough opportunity
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for Black women, and his mother
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could not make enough money
for both of them to live.
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- When Maurice wasnot more than five years old,
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his mother sits him downand says,
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look, I wanna makea better life for you.
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The best I can do here is
to scrub white folks' floors.
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- So she left Mauriceto go to Chicago
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in order to survive.
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To not have a mother at that
age, it's just so difficult.
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There was a large void there.
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That scar that his mom
did like that,
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that did a number on him.
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He ended up staying withthis lady named Big Mama.
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- She wasn't family,but she took him in.
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He owed her everything.
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- It was justher and I, basically,
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as I coming upin the ghetto, you know.
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They did what they had
to do in Memphis to get by.
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Maurice starteda newspaper route
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in white Memphisin the morning.
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- Way across townin a white area.
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One day, white policemen
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stopped him and harassed him
for so long
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and so much
and beat him up so badly.
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He was so hurt
and so alienated.
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He was terrifiedfrom that point on.
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- There was a lotof limitations at that time.
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I was alone,
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but music saved me.
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- Into Memphis to the tempoof "Beale Street Blues."
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- Memphis hassuch a rich musical heritage.
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I was influenced by the bluesand gospel and jazz.
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And I loved every bit of it.
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When I was 11 years old, therewas a drum and bugle corps
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that camethrough the neighborhood.
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And they hadthese shiny suits on,
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and I wanted mea shiny suit at school.
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I've always been reallyfascinated by the beat,
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and I gotso enthusiastic about it.
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Good God,
he must have practiced
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five hours a day, that guy.
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- Music was his first love.It was his everything.
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It was his safe space, bro.
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Like, it was the one where
that could not leave, period.
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- When I graduatedfrom high school in Memphis,
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finally, my mother cameand got me and said,
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you're going to Chicago.
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- Ten years later, she hadreached a place in her life
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where she wanted Mauriceback with her.
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But she had starteda new family,
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so that's a whole
different dynamic.
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- Maurice's siblingswere really, really excited
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that our big brotherwas there.
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I just remember looking at him
because I'm thinking,
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wow, he really does exist.
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It was great because
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I was spending the day
with my big brother.
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- We hadeight brothers and sisters.
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Our mother was
a teacher's aide,
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housewife, school teacher.
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Father was a doctor.
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- Maurice was very much awarethat this wasn't his family.
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It was the familythat he never had.
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I think he thought, in some
way, he was forgotten--
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issues of abandonment.
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Maurice had some guard up.
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He felt like if you let people
get too close, they leave you.
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- It was duringthe time moving to Chicago,
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I enrolledin the conservatory.
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Eventually, I found
that I had talent,
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and so I went after
pursuing it, you know.
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As a result of metrying to find my way
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and having faithin what I was doing,
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I got a job at Chessas a studio drummer.
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- ♪ Like a sound you hearthat lingers in your ear ♪
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♪ But you can't... ♪
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Chess records was one
of the most successful
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record labels for
Black America in the 1960s.
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♪ You hear it everywhere ♪
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♪ No matter what you do ♪
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♪ It's gonna graba hold on you ♪
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- It playedon everybody's record--
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Fontella Bass,Etta James, Chuck Berry,
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Howlin' Wolf,Muddy Waters, Billy Stewart,
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some of the great.
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- 666 on drumsand 666r on the bass drum.
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- Charles Stepney,he had constantly
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been a teacher of mine.
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His approach to productionwas really unique,
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taught me how to feel themusic and get inside the song,
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how to produce records.
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It was like Chess Universityto me.
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Those things that
I learned from Charles,
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I'll never forget.
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I started doing thingsI couldn't believe.
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From that point on,I met Ramsey Lewis at Chess.
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The man who had
the ninth most popular hit
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of the past year,
Mr. Ramsey Lewis.
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Ramsey Lewis, he was huge.
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They were like rock stars.
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He had one of the firstmillion-selling records
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for a jazz trio.
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- Ramsey brought jazzto the forefront
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for the masses.
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Eventually, he asked meto join the band.
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I'd get really close
to the radio
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and try to listen for him.
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I knew if I was hearing it,
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other people
were hearing it too.
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- Ramsey exposed meto a wider universe.
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But I was very shy.
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He would set his cymbals
up like this, flat,
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so they would cover his face.
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And he was kindof hiding behind there,
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playing his drums.
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And Ramsey told him, hey, man,
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the crowd has tosee your face.
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- Ramsey was a role modelfor me,
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and he taught me presentation.
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Maurice became
the great drummer live.
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The first time I met
Maurice White was actually
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at a Ramsey Lewis performance.
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And I was impressedwith the drumming,
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and Maurice
gave me drumsticks.
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I may have playedsome sessions with him.
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I was playing so hard,
I broke the sticks, okay?
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I did.
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During the period of time
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where I was workingwith Ramsey...
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all:
We are the people!
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As a peace officer,
I hereby command you...
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- There was a painthat I felt in the community.
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It all kind of converged
at the same time,
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the assassinations
of our leaders.
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- It was justall around us in Chicago.
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In December, police raided
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Black Panther headquartersin Chicago.
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They have murdered
Fred Hampton.
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They are out to murder me.
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It's like they'llmurder anybody
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that's Black in this country.
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- Maurice waspart of a generation
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born into deprivation,discrimination.
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The world is sending you a
message that you don't count.
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But you have to remember one
thing, and that's be strong.
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We spend more time--
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- Black advancementwas under fire.
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But even in the midst of allof that, it fired Blacks up.
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For the quick solution.
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- On the South Sideof Chicago,
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there was a Black Arts
Movement using Afrocentricity,
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reimagining Blackness througha connection to Africa,
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defining Blacknesson its own terms.
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- It kind of inspired meto get a bead
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on my own African evolution.
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I got exposed to the kalimba,
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or I just started foolingaround with it.
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- The kalimbais the thumb piano
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used by some African poets,storytellers,
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keepers of history
for meaningful connections
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in the universe.
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- One night,when I was with Ramsey Lewis,
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I picked up the kalimbaand started to play,
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and they liked it.
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- That was amazingbecause it brought me closer
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to knowing more about
what I was so curious about.
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And that was Africa.
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Say, I'm gonna
teach you some very
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important words in Swahili.
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I want you to repeat after me.
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Me and Maurice,
we were a songwriting team.
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We got aware that you could
make money with jingles.
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Love is upendo.
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all: Love is upendo.
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Pride is kiburi.
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all: Pride is kiburi.
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Watu wazuri.
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all: Use Afro Sheen, Afro
Sheen, Afro Sheen, Afro Sheen.
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- ♪ Watu wazuriuse Afro Sheen ♪
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You do the watu wazuri,
use Afro Sheen commercials?
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Yeah.
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Oh, I'm sorry, yo.
I got super--wait a minute.
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- ♪ Watu wazuriuse Afro Sheen ♪
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- The watu wazurimeans beautiful people.
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- ♪ Watu wazuri,use Afro Sheen ♪
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The message that
Black is beautiful...
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all:
♪ Black is beautiful ♪
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And our beautiful
Black African history.
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- Isn't it beautiful?
- Yes.
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All right.
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We had not heard
anything like that before.
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You know, we are somebody.
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We can feel good
about ourselves.
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It was feeding
into little souls like mine.
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It was Black positivity.
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- For brothers and sisters,it was a revolution.
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It was just time to shine.
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♪ ♪
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Hey, on a solo.
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- So I started having visionsof this group
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and create this music to seeourselves in a different way.
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I was inspiredby reading a book
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called "Laws of Success"by Napoleon Hill.
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It introduced me
to a new form of awareness,
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positive thinking.
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Whatever the mind can
conceive and believe,
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it can achieve.
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You're capable
of doing anything.
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Napoleon Hill said,
when you want
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to manifest something
into reality,
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there is a process for it.
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Write it out clearly.
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Tell the mind what you wantover and over and over again.
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- It's like this thing kepton formulating in my mind.
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I wanted to reacha universal audience.
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To evolve consciousnessthrough the music.
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And change the world.
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I finally drew a pictureof my vision of this group.
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♪ ♪
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And that's whatI set out to do.
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So he decided
to leave Ramsey Lewis.
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To give up
the height of success,
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touring around the world,
for the harebrained idea
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of achieving an artistic dream
is almost unthinkable.
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- You haveto follow your heart
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and follow what'simportant for you.
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And don't be afraidto do that, to take chances.
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- Maurice said, I wanna go outto California to start a band.
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Are you interested?
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I said, hell, yeah.
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- Californiawas a whole different thing.
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I played tennis.
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I'd ride horses,
go out driving in my Jeep.
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- In the early '70s,Black people are really
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stretching out and growing.
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There are countercultures.
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There are Black hippies now.
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- Mostly new-age consciousness
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and eating rightand living right.
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- There was a health store,so we used to
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go there and eat
all the time--
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Organicville.
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- One day,Maurice White came in,
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and we locked eyes.
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And all of a sudden,
I heard music.
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And I got chills.
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00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:08,999
And he flashed me his smile,
and it was over.
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I told my mom, I met someone.
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She says, yeah?
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Is he Jewish?
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And I laughed.
348
00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:21,095
I said, no, Mom,
he is not Jewish.
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We were interestedin learning,
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continuously learning.
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- Yeah,I was doing a lot of study
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about metaphysics,outer space, and inner space.
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- Maurice was learningthat the universe
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is this one powerful force.
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But instead of looking up,look in.
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We are the vehicle in which
the power comes through.
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We exist now,
on this plane,
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which is called
a physical plane.
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But if you tune into the universe,
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you can more or lesselevate yourself consciously.
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- He told mehe wanted to bring
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that mysticism into his band.
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I said, cool.
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Do you have a name
for your band?
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- I was into astrologyreal heavy.
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And I was lookingat my astrological chart.
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I started to putthe elements together.
368
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And I had Earth in my chart,fire in my chart, and air.
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And I changed air to wind,and the rest is history.
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Earth, Wind & Fire
is basically
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that of the true elements
of the universe.
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It just had a ring to it.
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So I had three songwriters
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who worked with meall the time,
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Don Whitehead,Wade Flemons, Sherry Scott.
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And this is whoI formed the group with.
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♪ No man should have to face
his problems all alone ♪
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♪ Alone, alone, oh, no ♪
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♪ Reach out and help
the weak man ♪
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♪ And make him strong,
strong, strong ♪
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♪ Now, now, now I wanna
help somebody ♪
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♪ I'd like to help you,
you, you ♪
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♪ Now, don't that make you
wanna help somebody ♪
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♪ Too, too, too ♪
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♪ The love... ♪
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We flowed so effortlessly.
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No one had the upper hand.
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We were all good at what ourparticular contribution was.
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- ♪ Helping hand willmake you a better man ♪
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♪ Doo wah doo way ♪
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♪ Let love prevail ♪
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- Verdine, I invited himto come out
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and join the bandbecause he started
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to soar as a bass player afterI bought him his first bass.
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00:23:02,506 --> 00:23:05,718
In high school, I would be
the classical bass player,
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you know, jazz,lugging it around on the bus.
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It just spoke to me.
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- When I got to California,I was not well-traveled.
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I had never been on a plane.
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00:23:16,353 --> 00:23:18,105
Maurice looked at me.
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00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:19,440
I looked like
a country bumpkin.
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00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:20,649
He said, we gotta go
get you some clothes.
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00:23:20,691 --> 00:23:23,736
♪ Reach out your hand
and help somebody ♪
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00:23:23,819 --> 00:23:26,488
- And don't forget, now,I'm 18, 19.
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00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:28,240
The band, they were older.
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00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:30,075
They knew so much.
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00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:31,702
I didn't wanna blow it,
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00:23:31,785 --> 00:23:33,579
or Reese might get
another bass player.
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00:23:35,164 --> 00:23:37,875
♪ Help somebody today ♪
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As we float through time
411
00:23:49,303 --> 00:23:51,805
as energy...
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00:23:51,889 --> 00:23:54,224
- We were, like,preoccupied with innovating
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00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:56,518
new sounds, trying new things,
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Filling all space...
415
00:23:59,063 --> 00:24:02,524
- The vibe was justexperimental jazz,
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00:24:02,566 --> 00:24:05,527
wasn't designedto be commercial.
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00:24:05,611 --> 00:24:08,322
We would just go
wherever the spirit led us.
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00:24:08,405 --> 00:24:13,869
- Breathing airfilled with prana.
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00:24:13,911 --> 00:24:18,207
Awaiting the timelesstimes of nirvana.
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00:24:18,248 --> 00:24:20,125
- Mauricewas doing the hustling,
421
00:24:20,209 --> 00:24:22,044
pushing us out there.
422
00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:25,547
Eventually, we got a contractwith Warner Brothers.
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00:24:25,631 --> 00:24:28,926
We call on you because we
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00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:34,139
love you.
425
00:24:37,393 --> 00:24:39,144
- We were playingBlack colleges.
426
00:24:39,228 --> 00:24:40,854
We were a college group first.
427
00:24:43,023 --> 00:24:48,237
At the time, I was in the
band called Friends & Love.
428
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,447
We opened forEarth, Wind & Fire.
429
00:24:50,531 --> 00:24:52,199
I had never heard
no Black people
430
00:24:52,282 --> 00:24:54,159
playing no music like that.
431
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:59,581
Dressed like little
jazz geek kids, you know,
432
00:24:59,623 --> 00:25:01,667
looked up to him because it
was harmonically complex
433
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:04,294
and exciting and orchestrated.
434
00:25:04,378 --> 00:25:05,671
And it was just banging.
435
00:25:08,924 --> 00:25:10,426
♪ ♪
436
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,094
We were a niche band,
437
00:25:12,136 --> 00:25:15,014
but we weren't connectingwith the wider audience
438
00:25:15,097 --> 00:25:16,724
that Maurice wanted.
439
00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:23,772
We didn't sell very well.
440
00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:25,941
The record companiesdidn't know what to do with us
441
00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:30,279
because we wasn't your usualR&B Black band.
442
00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:32,239
- We struggledfor about 18 months,
443
00:25:32,322 --> 00:25:34,324
trying to get it together.
444
00:25:34,408 --> 00:25:37,453
There was some resentment
being built.
445
00:25:37,494 --> 00:25:39,121
When we gonna getsome more work,
446
00:25:39,163 --> 00:25:41,040
so we can make some money?
447
00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:43,792
Some of the guys were much
older with the attitude,
448
00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:48,839
well, look, I know as much
as you do, business-wise.
449
00:25:48,922 --> 00:25:52,092
I don't think they wanted
Maurice to be the leader.
450
00:25:52,176 --> 00:25:55,179
I think that was
a problem amongst them.
451
00:25:55,262 --> 00:25:58,140
They all wanted to be
the leader, you know.
452
00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:00,059
But it was Maurice's group.
453
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:28,670
We were called
into a meeting,
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00:26:28,754 --> 00:26:32,758
and everything
was up in smoke.
455
00:26:32,841 --> 00:26:37,304
What I noticed,Verdine wasn't there,
456
00:26:37,387 --> 00:26:40,349
and Maurice wasn't there.
457
00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:45,562
Maurice did not
like confrontation.
458
00:26:45,646 --> 00:26:49,108
He did not like
uncomfortable conversations.
459
00:26:49,191 --> 00:26:50,692
He--
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00:26:50,734 --> 00:26:53,695
He was chickenshit.
461
00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:56,198
You know,
that's just the truth.
462
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,119
We heard we were no longera member of this group.
463
00:27:00,202 --> 00:27:02,704
Well, I couldn't think
straight because, I mean,
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00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:05,999
this is my brother.
465
00:27:06,083 --> 00:27:08,877
Man, what kind of nonsenseis that, you know?
466
00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:11,755
Reese is gonna get ridof all of us.
467
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:18,554
He would say
to me things like,
468
00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:20,472
people are in your life
for a season,
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00:27:20,556 --> 00:27:23,142
and when it's over, it's--
470
00:27:31,567 --> 00:27:34,611
- Start by focusingin your heart.
471
00:27:34,695 --> 00:27:37,239
Breathe in the energyof the universe,
472
00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:39,950
the shakti of the universe.
473
00:27:41,827 --> 00:27:45,497
- The first band didn'tcome together, you know.
474
00:27:45,581 --> 00:27:48,750
But I wasn't ready to give up.
475
00:27:48,792 --> 00:27:50,919
Let it fill your whole body.
476
00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:54,756
He believed in his dream.
477
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,427
He would visualize,
visualize, visualize...
478
00:28:00,721 --> 00:28:03,724
Writing down affirmations
479
00:28:03,807 --> 00:28:06,435
up until 1:00, 2:00
in the morning.
480
00:28:14,568 --> 00:28:16,361
- I just wanteda younger approach,
481
00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:18,864
more commercial approach,
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00:28:18,947 --> 00:28:21,325
a new sound, a new energy.
483
00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:24,244
Verdine was the first person.
484
00:28:24,328 --> 00:28:27,873
We solidified, I'm keeping
this dude in the group.
485
00:28:27,956 --> 00:28:31,043
- I got Ralph,hired him as a drummer.
486
00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:33,253
- They had seen me playat a club
487
00:28:33,337 --> 00:28:34,796
called Maverick's Flat.
488
00:28:34,838 --> 00:28:36,840
When the opportunity
comes about, man,
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00:28:36,924 --> 00:28:40,761
you walk into something that
totally changes your life.
490
00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:43,805
- I just put it together,piece by piece.
491
00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:48,810
♪ ♪
492
00:28:48,852 --> 00:28:51,104
This is Phil Bailey.
493
00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:52,648
- What sign are you, brother?
- I'm a Taurus.
494
00:28:52,731 --> 00:28:54,650
Taurus, the bull. Right on.
495
00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:56,568
It was divine destiny
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00:28:56,652 --> 00:29:01,573
to join a group
that I already admired.
497
00:29:01,657 --> 00:29:03,492
Maurice White is
the leader of the group,
498
00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:05,869
so like the pilot of our ship.
499
00:29:05,953 --> 00:29:08,330
- Being a leader,you have to be able to, like,
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00:29:08,372 --> 00:29:10,415
keep it on a good level.
501
00:29:10,499 --> 00:29:12,751
I always try to be an example.
502
00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:15,003
Reese was
ten years older than us.
503
00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:18,507
We were learningso many things
504
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:21,468
because we're, like,21 years old.
505
00:29:21,551 --> 00:29:24,388
It's our first rodeo.
506
00:29:24,471 --> 00:29:28,517
Incense for $1, 25 of them.
507
00:29:30,978 --> 00:29:35,774
We were anxious to see where
Maurice was gonna take this.
508
00:29:39,695 --> 00:29:43,198
- There was a circuit thatthe artists would travel--
509
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,245
the Regal, the Howard,the Apollo, the Uptown.
510
00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:51,123
There's a bunch of theatersthat's a little hostile.
511
00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:53,709
And if you wasn't great,the audience would boo you
512
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:56,211
and throw you off the stage.
513
00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:59,798
- I remember playing therewith the Commodores.
514
00:29:59,881 --> 00:30:04,344
They're going to give you
an opportunity to present.
515
00:30:04,428 --> 00:30:07,723
What they're not gonna do
is lie to you.
516
00:30:07,764 --> 00:30:10,225
Only the strong'sgonna survive.
517
00:30:10,267 --> 00:30:13,854
One day, we get a chance
to go to Philadelphia,
518
00:30:13,937 --> 00:30:18,442
and we're doing
the Uptown Theatre.
519
00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:25,324
The revue isfive doo-wop groups
520
00:30:25,407 --> 00:30:27,993
and Earth, Wind & Fire.
521
00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:31,955
These groups had ontailor-made suits
522
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,791
cut to the nines,
everybody looking tight,
523
00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:37,085
everybody looking alike.
524
00:30:37,127 --> 00:30:42,215
That's what was expectedat the Uptown.
525
00:30:42,299 --> 00:30:43,717
Although we were cool,
we were different.
526
00:30:45,594 --> 00:30:47,596
♪ Yeah, what about the... ♪
527
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:51,433
With afros, no shirts,
528
00:30:51,516 --> 00:30:54,936
wearing dashikis and Capezios.
529
00:30:54,978 --> 00:30:56,313
♪ Hey, hey ♪
530
00:30:59,107 --> 00:31:00,984
We were outsiders.
531
00:31:01,068 --> 00:31:03,945
They were going to hate us.
532
00:31:10,285 --> 00:31:12,746
Oh, I was scared to death,
533
00:31:12,829 --> 00:31:15,832
scared out of my wits,you know?
534
00:31:15,916 --> 00:31:19,878
Maurice thought,
I'm gonna defy the odds.
535
00:31:22,923 --> 00:31:29,596
♪ ♪
536
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:33,517
He tells all of us the plan.
537
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,559
It's a bold move.
538
00:31:37,062 --> 00:31:39,815
Acts have gone on before us.
539
00:31:39,856 --> 00:31:41,942
It was time for us to go up.
540
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,071
We got a new groupfrom California,
541
00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:47,948
Earth, Wind & Fire.
542
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:54,204
People's mouth open,and then you got laughter.
543
00:31:56,373 --> 00:32:00,168
So Maurice says,
sit down on the floor.
544
00:32:00,252 --> 00:32:02,879
Sit down
in the lotus position.
545
00:32:02,963 --> 00:32:05,006
We got in the lotus
position, folded our legs,
546
00:32:05,048 --> 00:32:07,050
man, and we just meditated.
547
00:32:11,012 --> 00:32:13,098
And they were just
looking at us crazy.
548
00:32:13,181 --> 00:32:15,851
Minute one,
what are you thinking?
549
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:18,270
I'm too scared to think.
550
00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:20,856
I'm going, okay, now,
this is either gonna work
551
00:32:20,897 --> 00:32:23,525
or this is gonna be
a total disaster.
552
00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:27,195
You have cups and stuff
thrown up there on the stage.
553
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,156
Get them guys off the stage!
Get them out of there.
554
00:32:29,239 --> 00:32:30,574
Get them out of there.
555
00:32:33,201 --> 00:32:34,453
We're sitting there
looking like this,
556
00:32:34,536 --> 00:32:37,080
so one eye like this,
and oh, my God.
557
00:32:38,498 --> 00:32:40,584
- Three minutesinto that mission,
558
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:41,751
what are you thinking?
559
00:32:41,835 --> 00:32:44,379
Now the heart's
beating fast.
560
00:32:44,421 --> 00:32:46,298
The mouth is dry.
561
00:32:46,381 --> 00:32:48,133
We sat there and looked
at that audience
562
00:32:48,216 --> 00:32:51,636
for at least five minutes,
563
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,054
Six, seven, eight minutes.
564
00:32:56,308 --> 00:33:01,229
Finally, it calmed down
just enough.
565
00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:04,483
- I guess theygot tired of heckling us,
566
00:33:04,566 --> 00:33:08,612
and Maurice startsplaying the kalimba.
567
00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:17,370
He tells me to get
on the congas.
568
00:33:19,706 --> 00:33:23,043
Then he tells over to Ralph,
start a groove.
569
00:33:25,879 --> 00:33:27,756
And then bass line.
570
00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:36,556
And then we went.
571
00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:07,879
We started hearing
people clap a little bit.
572
00:34:07,963 --> 00:34:11,383
Yeah, that's the fire,the fire.
573
00:34:11,466 --> 00:34:13,385
And then
we proceeded to kill.
574
00:34:33,113 --> 00:34:35,991
- Sometimes peopleare afraid of change.
575
00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:37,867
Through all of that,
they won them over
576
00:34:37,951 --> 00:34:39,369
with a new experience.
577
00:34:47,711 --> 00:34:50,714
- Maurice said, this isthe day that we found out
578
00:34:50,797 --> 00:34:52,299
that we got something.
579
00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:57,679
That was an endorsement
to do what he was saying
580
00:34:57,762 --> 00:35:00,181
philosophically and musically.
581
00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:04,728
To lead a band
of Black guys, right,
582
00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:09,608
you know, of cats,
you gotta be really tough.
583
00:35:09,691 --> 00:35:11,234
And Maurice was tough.
584
00:35:14,571 --> 00:35:18,241
We had something bigto accomplish, you know?
585
00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:20,285
- I get a callfrom Maurice White.
586
00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:23,872
And he tells mehe's got a group.
587
00:35:23,913 --> 00:35:27,709
So I go and I see
Earth, Wind & Fire.
588
00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:29,210
This is good stuff.
589
00:35:29,294 --> 00:35:32,589
I thought, this could be
a successful band.
590
00:35:32,672 --> 00:35:37,218
Jim Brown has them, but Reesewanted different management.
591
00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:40,388
So I said,
I'd like to manage you.
592
00:35:40,430 --> 00:35:43,767
Maurice brought the bandout to my house
593
00:35:43,850 --> 00:35:46,227
to sign the contract.
594
00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,897
I said to him, why did you
bring everybody?
595
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:51,733
I'm only signing you.
596
00:35:51,775 --> 00:35:55,528
I believe these kids werepart of Maurice's vision
597
00:35:55,612 --> 00:35:58,615
but not the cause of it,
the impetus of it.
598
00:35:58,698 --> 00:36:00,575
It was him.
599
00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:04,037
Then I put together a dealwith Columbia Records,
600
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,916
with Clive Davis.
601
00:36:07,957 --> 00:36:11,503
- When people like Clive Daviscomes into your life,
602
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:15,090
it's giving you the major
opportunity to, like, be big.
603
00:36:15,131 --> 00:36:17,300
The first experienceof recording
604
00:36:17,384 --> 00:36:20,011
that we all did together wasthe "Last Days and Time,"
605
00:36:20,095 --> 00:36:21,888
then "Head to the Sky."
606
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:34,401
♪ Evil running
through our brain ♪
607
00:36:34,442 --> 00:36:38,488
♪ We and evil is about
the same, oh, Lord ♪
608
00:36:40,156 --> 00:36:45,870
♪ Well, yeah ♪
609
00:36:45,954 --> 00:36:48,248
♪ Ooh, yeah ♪
610
00:36:48,331 --> 00:36:50,375
I was a little bit shyin the beginning.
611
00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:53,294
But after I discovereda sound for myself,
612
00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:55,255
I was a wholedifferent personality.
613
00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:59,175
♪ Yeah, evil ♪
614
00:36:59,259 --> 00:37:01,469
For the band,what we try to do
615
00:37:01,511 --> 00:37:05,014
is to bring the nine together
as one.
616
00:37:05,098 --> 00:37:06,558
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
617
00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:08,476
- Maurice definitelyhad a vision,
618
00:37:08,518 --> 00:37:12,731
and he let us express
ourselves very freely.
619
00:37:12,814 --> 00:37:18,153
♪ Yeah, well, well ♪
620
00:37:35,211 --> 00:37:37,964
There was always
a book to read.
621
00:37:38,047 --> 00:37:39,048
We would stay up
late at night
622
00:37:39,132 --> 00:37:41,050
and talk about everything--
623
00:37:41,134 --> 00:37:42,218
cosmic consciousness.
624
00:37:42,302 --> 00:37:44,345
Spirituality, metaphysics.
625
00:37:44,429 --> 00:37:46,306
Everyone else
in the group got into
626
00:37:46,389 --> 00:37:51,936
transcendental meditation,
positive self-betterment.
627
00:37:57,692 --> 00:37:59,861
Maurice had
a lot of elixirs,
628
00:37:59,903 --> 00:38:00,987
so many drops in the water,
629
00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:03,531
and supplementsand all of that.
630
00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:06,534
We have one
of his green juice recipes.
631
00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:07,619
Oh, wow.
632
00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:12,290
Items--greens.
633
00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:13,917
This is intense.
634
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,420
Sunflower seeds, pumpkinseeds, spotted bananas,
635
00:38:17,504 --> 00:38:18,379
so they gotta be ripe.
636
00:38:18,463 --> 00:38:21,466
Soy lecithin granules,
brewer's yeast flakes,
637
00:38:21,549 --> 00:38:23,343
bee pollen grains,vanilla extract,
638
00:38:23,426 --> 00:38:26,471
chlorella, pycnogenol.
639
00:38:26,554 --> 00:38:28,056
I don't know what it is.
640
00:38:28,097 --> 00:38:30,141
Very simple diet, you know.
641
00:38:34,771 --> 00:38:36,731
♪ ♪
642
00:38:42,862 --> 00:38:47,242
- After a gig, we would comeinto a hotel lobby.
643
00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,744
It was very important
for us to find
644
00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:54,374
a group of ladies that
could corn row our hair
645
00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:56,960
while we played chess.
646
00:38:57,043 --> 00:38:58,753
Chess was a thing with us.
647
00:39:16,813 --> 00:39:20,900
- Reese wanted to alwaysdo either arenas or stadiums.
648
00:39:20,984 --> 00:39:23,403
That's where his head was.
649
00:39:23,486 --> 00:39:25,613
- For us to goto the next step,
650
00:39:25,697 --> 00:39:29,450
we needed to go on
as opening act.
651
00:39:29,534 --> 00:39:31,953
So we finally joined up
652
00:39:31,995 --> 00:39:33,997
with George Clinton
and Parliament-Funkadelic
653
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,124
at the Washington Armory.
654
00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:41,546
P-Funk--raw.
655
00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:43,339
Raw.
656
00:39:43,423 --> 00:39:45,466
- George Clintonjust went wild and loose
657
00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:47,635
and just let himself
be himself.
658
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,887
- When I passedtwo guys in diapers,
659
00:39:48,970 --> 00:39:51,431
I knew, okay, this isdefinitely gonna be
660
00:39:51,514 --> 00:39:53,683
some different kind of stuff.
661
00:39:56,352 --> 00:39:58,229
Oh, my.
662
00:39:58,313 --> 00:40:00,648
What a position to be in.
663
00:40:02,901 --> 00:40:05,320
- We went up there,packed house,
664
00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:08,656
smelling like weed everyplace.
665
00:40:08,698 --> 00:40:10,491
So we go outand do our thing--
666
00:40:10,575 --> 00:40:12,827
the flower children,
love, peace, and granola.
667
00:40:16,748 --> 00:40:20,501
We got, you know,
polite applause.
668
00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:22,295
And then, man...
669
00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:30,428
Out came George and his guys,
followed by a cloud of smoke.
670
00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:34,349
And, man,
they started this groove--
671
00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:38,519
mm, da, da, da, mmm, mmm,
da, da, doo, doo, doo.
672
00:40:38,561 --> 00:40:41,189
Bang a dang, boom, bum,
boom, bum, boom, bang a dang,
673
00:40:41,272 --> 00:40:42,231
boom, bum, boom, bum.
674
00:40:42,315 --> 00:40:43,358
This thing,
that's all he did.
675
00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:45,193
And all the heads
in the audience.
676
00:40:47,654 --> 00:40:49,781
Y'all ready
to give up the funk?
677
00:40:51,699 --> 00:40:53,368
I want you to free your mind,
678
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,745
and your ass
will follow tonight.
679
00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:58,539
They proceeded to lay it on.
680
00:40:58,623 --> 00:41:01,292
♪ There once was
a man from Peru ♪
681
00:41:01,376 --> 00:41:03,336
♪ Who went to sleep
in his canoe ♪
682
00:41:03,419 --> 00:41:05,004
♪ He was dreaming of Venus ♪
683
00:41:05,088 --> 00:41:06,422
♪ He took out his penis ♪
684
00:41:06,506 --> 00:41:07,757
♪ And woke up
with a handful of goo ♪
685
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,217
♪ Put your foot on the rock ♪
686
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,969
Yow.
687
00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:15,056
♪ Everybody say shit ♪
688
00:41:15,139 --> 00:41:16,349
♪ God damn ♪
689
00:41:16,432 --> 00:41:18,309
♪ Get off your ass and... ♪
690
00:41:18,393 --> 00:41:21,396
Funkadelics came on
and literally
691
00:41:21,437 --> 00:41:22,814
funked us out of there.
692
00:41:22,897 --> 00:41:25,608
To this day,
we remember that groove.
693
00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:27,527
all: Na, na, na, doh,
dank, doh, dank, doo,
694
00:41:27,610 --> 00:41:29,404
da, da, da, dun dank,
dank, dank, dank,
695
00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:31,739
da, da, da, dun, dank, dank.
696
00:41:31,781 --> 00:41:33,366
And for, like, about
ten years straight,
697
00:41:33,449 --> 00:41:35,493
every time I'd run
into George,
698
00:41:35,576 --> 00:41:37,412
George would say Verdine,
remember that time
699
00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:39,205
we tore y'all up, man?
700
00:41:39,288 --> 00:41:40,832
And then the funk started.
701
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,334
And I was like, God--
702
00:41:43,418 --> 00:41:47,005
♪ Say God damn ♪
703
00:41:47,088 --> 00:41:50,258
♪ I want to hear you say,
shit, God damn ♪
704
00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:52,218
Maurice said, okay,
705
00:41:52,301 --> 00:41:54,637
this will never happen again.
706
00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:57,557
But then Jessica Cleaves,
707
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,102
she left Earth, Wind & Fire
for P-Funk.
708
00:42:01,144 --> 00:42:02,520
Yeah.
709
00:42:02,603 --> 00:42:04,272
There's a switch.
710
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:05,523
We just kept going.
711
00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:07,692
That Monday, we were back
in rehearsal,
712
00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:09,277
full blast on more work.
713
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,279
And find the funk.
714
00:42:14,323 --> 00:42:15,658
♪ ♪
715
00:42:15,742 --> 00:42:17,910
Al McKay was addedto the band.
716
00:42:17,994 --> 00:42:22,790
And his specific job
was to make us funky.
717
00:42:22,874 --> 00:42:25,585
- I was a rhythmguitar player,
718
00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:28,713
so I kind of took the idea
of being a drummer
719
00:42:28,796 --> 00:42:31,049
rhythmically to guitar.
720
00:42:31,132 --> 00:42:34,635
So that's kind of beenmy calling card.
721
00:42:34,677 --> 00:42:39,098
We had to work on the one
to get that thing.
722
00:42:39,182 --> 00:42:41,517
- Making that spacefor the music
723
00:42:41,601 --> 00:42:44,645
to breathe on the one.
724
00:42:44,729 --> 00:42:48,149
- When Freddie came in,Maurice's brother,
725
00:42:48,191 --> 00:42:50,151
the band got tighter.
726
00:42:50,193 --> 00:42:53,488
- Maurice needed a drummerwhere the rhythm section
727
00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:55,364
could be solidified.
728
00:42:55,448 --> 00:42:57,408
I wanted to be on the stage.
729
00:42:57,492 --> 00:42:59,744
I wanted to play
with my brothers.
730
00:42:59,827 --> 00:43:02,663
- The concept of Freddie and Ibeing double drummers,
731
00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:03,956
you didn't know whatto expect musically,
732
00:43:03,998 --> 00:43:06,501
but you knew it was gonna
be big and powerful.
733
00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:09,545
- I'd juststart playing a groove.
734
00:43:09,629 --> 00:43:11,714
And I used to hearMaurice--man,
735
00:43:11,798 --> 00:43:13,091
he'd be in the bathroom
combing his hair or something.
736
00:43:13,174 --> 00:43:15,218
And he would hear it, and he'd
just start singing something.
737
00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:17,053
♪ Ah, yes, sir ♪
738
00:43:17,136 --> 00:43:18,638
♪ Well, hey ♪
739
00:43:18,721 --> 00:43:20,973
- The song justkind of wrote itself--
740
00:43:21,057 --> 00:43:22,809
I mean, no sweat.
741
00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:25,478
All righty, let's check out
that "Soul Train" line now,
742
00:43:25,561 --> 00:43:27,146
the "Soul Train" gang
to the music
743
00:43:27,188 --> 00:43:30,274
of Earth, Wind & Fire
and "Mighty Mighty."
744
00:43:31,734 --> 00:43:35,321
♪ Yeah ♪
745
00:43:35,404 --> 00:43:38,699
♪ That's right,
hey, hey, hey-a ♪
746
00:43:39,742 --> 00:43:41,536
♪ Walk around ♪
747
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:43,663
♪ Why wear a frown? ♪
748
00:43:43,704 --> 00:43:48,042
♪ Say little people
try to put you down ♪
749
00:43:48,126 --> 00:43:51,671
♪ What you need
is a helping hand ♪
750
00:43:51,754 --> 00:43:53,881
That's when the funk starts.
751
00:43:53,923 --> 00:43:56,592
♪ At your command ♪
752
00:43:56,676 --> 00:43:58,136
♪ How's your faith? ♪
753
00:43:58,219 --> 00:43:59,011
♪ 'Cause your faith... ♪
754
00:43:59,095 --> 00:44:00,555
"Mighty Mighty"
was their first
755
00:44:00,596 --> 00:44:02,306
legitimate hit of Black radio.
756
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:05,560
♪ To yourself be true ♪
757
00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:09,397
- We jumped,I mean, jumped sky high.
758
00:44:09,438 --> 00:44:12,066
We had never heard our songson the radio like that.
759
00:44:12,108 --> 00:44:14,819
♪ Oh, yes, sir ♪
760
00:44:14,902 --> 00:44:16,863
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
761
00:44:16,946 --> 00:44:20,032
My goal was
to get it on pop radio.
762
00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:26,831
But I couldn't get it on radio
other than just Black radio.
763
00:44:26,914 --> 00:44:29,834
- You know, we are peopleof the mighty mighty,
764
00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:32,170
people of the sun--
765
00:44:32,253 --> 00:44:37,592
very Afrocentric,fist in the air.
766
00:44:37,633 --> 00:44:40,261
But Bob Cavallothought the message
767
00:44:40,344 --> 00:44:42,346
that white stations got was
768
00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:44,974
"mighty, mighty,
kill the whitey."
769
00:44:46,809 --> 00:44:50,271
- Earth, Wind & Firewere making music with joy.
770
00:44:50,313 --> 00:44:53,107
But I think it
could be perceived possibly
771
00:44:53,149 --> 00:44:54,901
as being aggressive
772
00:44:54,984 --> 00:44:57,904
for a lot of whiteradio stations.
773
00:44:57,945 --> 00:45:02,617
- But Maurice wantedhis music to be appreciated
774
00:45:02,658 --> 00:45:04,493
by the whole world.
775
00:45:04,577 --> 00:45:08,623
He wanted a 50/50 crowd.
776
00:45:08,664 --> 00:45:10,625
It wouldn't be a white crowd
or a black crowd.
777
00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:11,918
It'd be both.
778
00:45:13,711 --> 00:45:17,131
So I knew I hadto promote Earth, Wind & Fire
779
00:45:17,173 --> 00:45:20,384
to the white audience,
who had very little
780
00:45:20,468 --> 00:45:22,261
to know about them.
781
00:45:22,303 --> 00:45:25,181
And that was my goalwith the next gig.
782
00:45:26,515 --> 00:45:28,893
- An ad appeared inSouthern California newspapers
783
00:45:28,976 --> 00:45:33,147
announcing California Jam,a 12-hour rock concert.
784
00:45:33,189 --> 00:45:37,276
California Jam was
a highly anticipated,
785
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,656
big Woodstock-type concert
in Rancho Cucamonga.
786
00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:43,824
And it was televised.
787
00:45:43,908 --> 00:45:45,243
It's gonna be
the biggest rock concert
788
00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:46,744
that has ever
had this press coverage
789
00:45:46,827 --> 00:45:48,371
from all over the world.
790
00:45:48,454 --> 00:45:50,748
It was 250,000 people.
791
00:45:50,831 --> 00:45:54,168
We'd never seen that manypeople in one place.
792
00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:57,546
Earth, Wind & Fire was the
only Black act on the bill.
793
00:46:00,132 --> 00:46:02,885
It was a whole nother
audience for us, you know.
794
00:46:08,057 --> 00:46:09,934
- Sometimes you haveto go against the grain,
795
00:46:10,017 --> 00:46:12,812
do things thateverybody else wouldn't do.
796
00:46:12,895 --> 00:46:15,564
We'd dare it, you know.We were daring, you know.
797
00:46:15,648 --> 00:46:18,192
But you gotta be that way.
798
00:46:18,234 --> 00:46:21,362
Let's boogie
with Earth, Wind & Fire.
799
00:46:21,404 --> 00:46:23,364
You ready to boogie?
800
00:46:56,772 --> 00:46:59,900
That was the beginning
of the theatrics
801
00:46:59,942 --> 00:47:01,193
of Earth, Wind & Fire.
802
00:47:03,446 --> 00:47:08,367
♪ We bring a message
from the heavens ♪
803
00:47:08,451 --> 00:47:13,164
♪ We're talkin' 'bout
a message, hey ♪
804
00:47:13,247 --> 00:47:16,792
♪ It's that time
is on your side ♪
805
00:47:16,876 --> 00:47:19,086
♪ No more need in running ♪
806
00:47:19,128 --> 00:47:21,172
♪ No more need to hide ♪
807
00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:23,883
♪ No more need
to cry, oh, Lord ♪
808
00:47:23,966 --> 00:47:25,217
♪ Time is on your side ♪
809
00:47:25,301 --> 00:47:26,594
♪ Ooh ♪
810
00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:28,471
♪ No more need in running ♪
811
00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:30,639
♪ No more need to hide ♪
812
00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:33,517
♪ No more need to cry ♪
813
00:47:33,601 --> 00:47:35,936
♪ Ya, ya, ya, ya, ya, ya ♪
814
00:47:35,978 --> 00:47:37,480
♪ Ya, ya, ya, ya, ya ♪
815
00:47:37,563 --> 00:47:38,773
♪ Whoo! ♪
816
00:47:57,917 --> 00:48:00,294
We were warmly received.
817
00:48:00,336 --> 00:48:06,384
It was the opportunity that
we needed to open up exposure
818
00:48:06,467 --> 00:48:07,802
to Earth, Wind & Fire.
819
00:48:07,885 --> 00:48:10,137
How you feel?
820
00:48:10,179 --> 00:48:13,849
Every time I am able
to accomplish something
821
00:48:13,933 --> 00:48:17,978
and create a reality
from an imaginary principle,
822
00:48:18,062 --> 00:48:22,274
that's somethingthat verifies my faith.
823
00:48:22,358 --> 00:48:25,403
- And they put iton ABC on a Friday night,
824
00:48:25,486 --> 00:48:26,862
on national TV.
825
00:48:26,946 --> 00:48:29,448
It was a great
confidence booster
826
00:48:29,532 --> 00:48:34,203
that we could really crossover into the mainstream.
827
00:48:36,205 --> 00:48:40,000
For the next album, Maurice
wanted excellence in sound--
828
00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:42,878
more controlled,
more orchestrated,
829
00:48:42,962 --> 00:48:48,426
more symphonic, more together.
830
00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:58,185
♪ ♪
831
00:49:00,604 --> 00:49:04,650
- We wanted, like, a retreat,and away from everybody.
832
00:49:07,361 --> 00:49:12,074
So we recorded atCaribou Ranch in Colorado.
833
00:49:15,244 --> 00:49:17,329
Sig Shore was doinga movie called
834
00:49:17,413 --> 00:49:19,206
"That's the Way of the World."
835
00:49:19,290 --> 00:49:22,585
So we wrote songsaround the movie.
836
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,922
Then I called Charles Stepney.
837
00:49:27,006 --> 00:49:29,884
He had been my mentorworking at Chess.
838
00:49:29,925 --> 00:49:31,469
- Charles wasproducing records--
839
00:49:31,552 --> 00:49:36,098
Rotary Connection, Minnie
Riperton, the Dells too.
840
00:49:37,683 --> 00:49:39,310
Charles was a great writer,
841
00:49:39,393 --> 00:49:42,897
great piano player,
great arranger.
842
00:49:42,938 --> 00:49:47,109
Left channel front,
right channel front.
843
00:49:47,193 --> 00:49:49,403
When we were working on
"That's the Way of the World,"
844
00:49:49,445 --> 00:49:52,114
well, he's thinking about
orchestration and arrangement,
845
00:49:52,198 --> 00:49:54,408
what he can dowith horns and strings.
846
00:49:57,578 --> 00:50:00,956
♪ ♪
847
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,375
- That lowtrumpet register thing
848
00:50:03,459 --> 00:50:07,046
was a very warm kind of sound.
849
00:50:07,129 --> 00:50:10,174
The elegance of the horns,
850
00:50:10,257 --> 00:50:12,593
the groove of the song.
851
00:50:12,676 --> 00:50:14,428
These arrangements provoked
852
00:50:14,512 --> 00:50:17,890
some kind of spiritualresponse in Maurice.
853
00:50:17,973 --> 00:50:19,850
♪ Hearts afire ♪
854
00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:22,770
♪ Creates love desire ♪
855
00:50:22,811 --> 00:50:25,606
♪ Take you higher and higher ♪
856
00:50:25,689 --> 00:50:29,276
♪ To the world you belong ♪
857
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,654
- It's gospel.It's straight gospel.
858
00:50:31,737 --> 00:50:36,534
God, I can listen to it
and feel my heart chakra
859
00:50:36,617 --> 00:50:38,118
just open up.
860
00:50:38,202 --> 00:50:39,787
♪ That's the way ♪
861
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:41,038
♪ Yow ♪
862
00:50:41,121 --> 00:50:42,289
♪ Of the world ♪
863
00:50:42,331 --> 00:50:43,958
♪ Yow, yeah, yeah ♪
864
00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:46,252
♪ Plant your flower ♪
865
00:50:46,335 --> 00:50:49,463
♪ And you grow a pearl ♪
866
00:50:49,505 --> 00:50:51,340
- There is one line thathas always stood out.
867
00:50:51,423 --> 00:50:54,635
"Children are born
with a heart of gold.
868
00:50:54,677 --> 00:50:58,055
The way of the world
makes his heart grow cold."
869
00:50:58,138 --> 00:50:59,598
That has always stuck with me.
870
00:50:59,682 --> 00:51:01,976
And we've always tried
to help to make that a lie.
871
00:51:02,017 --> 00:51:03,644
♪ A child is born ♪
872
00:51:03,727 --> 00:51:04,770
♪ A child is born ♪
873
00:51:04,853 --> 00:51:05,980
♪ With a heart of gold ♪
874
00:51:06,021 --> 00:51:07,606
♪ With a heart of gold ♪
875
00:51:07,690 --> 00:51:08,983
♪ Way of the world ♪
876
00:51:09,024 --> 00:51:10,192
♪ Way of the world ♪
877
00:51:10,276 --> 00:51:11,360
♪ Makes his heart ♪
878
00:51:11,443 --> 00:51:13,237
♪ Makes his heart so cold ♪
879
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,115
♪ That love,
that love, that love ♪
880
00:51:16,198 --> 00:51:18,367
♪ That love,
that love, that love ♪
881
00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:20,869
- Charles became likethe coach
882
00:51:20,953 --> 00:51:24,164
of our whole existence.
883
00:51:24,206 --> 00:51:25,833
We wrote together.
884
00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:28,002
We produced together,
played together,
885
00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:29,086
the whole trip, you know.
886
00:51:29,169 --> 00:51:31,130
♪ Love desire ♪
887
00:51:31,213 --> 00:51:32,673
♪ High and higher ♪
888
00:51:34,675 --> 00:51:36,719
♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
889
00:51:36,802 --> 00:51:38,429
We were maturing.
890
00:51:38,512 --> 00:51:41,265
You know, we were getting alittle bit more sophisticated.
891
00:51:41,348 --> 00:51:47,688
And then, also, Maurice wanted
a crisp sound through mixing.
892
00:51:47,771 --> 00:51:52,276
Maurice did a real deep searchto find George Massenburg.
893
00:51:52,359 --> 00:51:55,029
- It was the beginningof a great relationship
894
00:51:55,070 --> 00:51:56,488
because I was so particular
895
00:51:56,572 --> 00:51:57,948
about everythingI did musically,
896
00:51:58,032 --> 00:52:02,036
and the same with himelectronically.
897
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,330
A dream of better sound.
898
00:52:04,413 --> 00:52:06,707
I was the geek,
the geek engineer.
899
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:10,377
I heard where I thoughtMaurice was trying to go
900
00:52:10,419 --> 00:52:14,298
and how I mightmake it better.
901
00:52:14,381 --> 00:52:17,301
- Caribou Ranch,we were up in the mountains,
902
00:52:17,384 --> 00:52:19,553
you know, and the starswere so close,
903
00:52:19,595 --> 00:52:20,888
like you couldreach up and just
904
00:52:20,929 --> 00:52:24,099
pull a star out of the sky.
905
00:52:24,183 --> 00:52:26,393
That stimulatedan idea to write
906
00:52:26,477 --> 00:52:28,562
a song called "Shining Star."
907
00:52:30,939 --> 00:52:32,858
From my recollection,
"Shining Star" started out
908
00:52:32,941 --> 00:52:34,735
as a jam, actually.
909
00:52:37,613 --> 00:52:40,157
♪ ♪
910
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:42,951
- There was Al McKayplaying that raised 9 chord.
911
00:52:45,412 --> 00:52:46,455
We just kind of tookit from there,
912
00:52:46,538 --> 00:52:48,165
and things start to grow...
913
00:52:48,248 --> 00:52:49,500
♪ Yeah ♪
914
00:52:49,583 --> 00:52:50,959
Additional keyboard lines...
915
00:52:51,043 --> 00:52:52,586
♪ Huh ♪
916
00:52:52,670 --> 00:52:53,587
Synthesizers...
917
00:52:53,671 --> 00:52:54,922
- ♪ When you wishupon a star ♪
918
00:52:54,963 --> 00:52:56,090
The horns...
919
00:52:57,883 --> 00:52:59,468
Organs,
920
00:52:59,551 --> 00:53:01,428
bongos.
921
00:53:01,470 --> 00:53:04,139
- ♪ But when you wishupon a dream ♪
922
00:53:04,223 --> 00:53:06,141
There were a lot
of good ideas,
923
00:53:06,225 --> 00:53:09,353
but it was dense
and all over the place.
924
00:53:09,436 --> 00:53:14,274
So I started cleaning shit out,
cutting instruments out,
925
00:53:14,316 --> 00:53:17,986
to keep only the essentials.
926
00:53:18,070 --> 00:53:20,072
And my thought was,
927
00:53:20,155 --> 00:53:24,702
let's get these vocals
bright and clean...
928
00:53:24,785 --> 00:53:28,288
- ♪ Shining bright to seewhat you could truly be ♪
929
00:53:28,330 --> 00:53:31,208
♪ What you could truly be ♪
930
00:53:31,291 --> 00:53:35,212
Simple, elegant ideas
clearly presented.
931
00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:41,301
Band comes in,and I play it back, my mix.
932
00:53:41,343 --> 00:53:44,096
- ♪ Shining like a lighton you ♪
933
00:53:44,138 --> 00:53:46,557
And the group's doing
this kind of thing.
934
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,643
And Al McKay islooking at Maurice.
935
00:53:49,685 --> 00:53:53,439
And that's your first glimpse
of your fight.
936
00:53:53,522 --> 00:53:57,276
Maurice comes over,he says, hey, man, turn it up.
937
00:54:01,321 --> 00:54:04,992
And I mean, turn it--
turn it way up.
938
00:54:05,075 --> 00:54:06,368
So I turned it the fuck up.
939
00:54:09,037 --> 00:54:10,456
Once you strike
that first note,
940
00:54:10,539 --> 00:54:11,665
there's something
that happens.
941
00:54:11,749 --> 00:54:13,876
- Bum, buh, bum, dunk, dunk.
- Dunk, dunk, dunk.
942
00:54:13,959 --> 00:54:15,085
Guitar is coming in.
943
00:54:15,169 --> 00:54:16,754
That's an Al McKay groove
all day long.
944
00:54:16,837 --> 00:54:18,046
And then, all of a sudden,
it's almost like
945
00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:19,339
that's the fuse being lit.
946
00:54:19,423 --> 00:54:21,175
- Shh.
- And then you hear it.
947
00:54:21,216 --> 00:54:22,760
- Wow.
- Bah!
948
00:54:23,927 --> 00:54:25,345
Oh, my God.
949
00:54:25,387 --> 00:54:30,350
♪ Yeah, hey, huh ♪
950
00:54:30,434 --> 00:54:32,394
♪ You're a shining star ♪
951
00:54:32,478 --> 00:54:35,022
♪ No matter who you are ♪
952
00:54:35,105 --> 00:54:37,191
♪ Shining bright to see ♪
953
00:54:37,232 --> 00:54:38,692
♪ What you can truly be ♪
954
00:54:38,776 --> 00:54:40,319
What you can truly be?
955
00:54:42,362 --> 00:54:47,910
I had all four quad monitors
just flat-out roaring.
956
00:54:49,661 --> 00:54:51,288
And the cats were dancing.
957
00:54:56,210 --> 00:55:00,547
♪ Shining star
come into view ♪
958
00:55:00,589 --> 00:55:04,551
♪ To shine its watchful light
on you, yeah ♪
959
00:55:04,593 --> 00:55:08,680
♪ Give you strength
to carry on, yeah ♪
960
00:55:08,764 --> 00:55:10,974
♪ Makes your body
big and strong ♪
961
00:55:11,058 --> 00:55:13,435
♪ Don't you hear me now? ♪
962
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:17,397
♪ Born a man-child
of the sun, yeah ♪
963
00:55:17,481 --> 00:55:21,735
♪ Saw my work had just begun ♪
964
00:55:21,819 --> 00:55:25,280
- The arrangementswere amazing.
965
00:55:25,364 --> 00:55:27,407
I just lovedthe way it sounded.
966
00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:32,329
And so, at some point,
I was, you know,
967
00:55:32,412 --> 00:55:33,872
inspired by what it did.
968
00:55:47,261 --> 00:55:48,262
It was.
969
00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:51,348
That was definitely an
influence, hearing that song.
970
00:55:55,018 --> 00:56:01,984
♪ ♪
971
00:56:04,027 --> 00:56:10,242
♪ Looking back on when I wasa little nappy-headed boy ♪
972
00:56:10,284 --> 00:56:15,247
Another thing that inspired mewas the message in that music
973
00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:18,542
because it was talking about
how people, within themselves,
974
00:56:18,625 --> 00:56:20,127
there's a greatness.
975
00:56:20,168 --> 00:56:22,754
There's nothing they can't do.
976
00:56:22,838 --> 00:56:25,424
- You're a shining star,no matter who you are,
977
00:56:25,507 --> 00:56:27,885
like, you're absorbing
these affirmations
978
00:56:27,968 --> 00:56:32,264
and these kind of
powerful, positive lyrics
979
00:56:32,347 --> 00:56:36,018
to see ourselves as moreand to be more.
980
00:56:36,101 --> 00:56:37,019
Maurice was on to something.
981
00:56:37,102 --> 00:56:40,314
He was ahead of his time
in terms of understanding
982
00:56:40,355 --> 00:56:44,151
the importanceof music and helping us,
983
00:56:44,192 --> 00:56:47,321
as a people,set our intentions
984
00:56:47,404 --> 00:56:49,990
by keeping our headto the sky.
985
00:56:51,325 --> 00:56:53,952
- That wasthe first pop hit we had.
986
00:56:53,994 --> 00:56:57,456
It was a turning pointin the group's career.
987
00:57:01,084 --> 00:57:05,339
♪ ♪
988
00:57:05,422 --> 00:57:07,507
- Our audiencesstarted changing,
989
00:57:07,591 --> 00:57:10,594
coming together
as one race, as one people,
990
00:57:10,677 --> 00:57:12,804
as love and peace.
991
00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:18,060
- Fans fromall around the world,
992
00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:20,395
all denominationsof color and the whole--
993
00:57:20,479 --> 00:57:23,857
so the music wins, eventually.
994
00:57:23,899 --> 00:57:25,734
That's when things
really started to break,
995
00:57:25,817 --> 00:57:27,778
and we started doingour own concerts,
996
00:57:27,861 --> 00:57:29,029
and we were the headliners.
997
00:57:29,112 --> 00:57:31,198
♪ A way, yeah ♪
998
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:34,576
♪ Sometimes it's hardto care ♪
999
00:57:34,660 --> 00:57:35,619
♪ Sing a song ♪
1000
00:57:35,702 --> 00:57:37,079
♪ It'll make your day ♪
1001
00:57:37,162 --> 00:57:39,289
I'd like you all
to give yourselves a hand.
1002
00:57:39,373 --> 00:57:40,374
Whoo!
1003
00:57:40,457 --> 00:57:42,042
Thank you much.
1004
00:57:42,084 --> 00:57:43,502
♪ Sing a song ♪
1005
00:57:43,585 --> 00:57:45,045
♪ It'll make a way ♪
1006
00:57:45,087 --> 00:57:47,255
There was more people
outside that had tickets,
1007
00:57:47,339 --> 00:57:48,298
you know, couldn't get in.
1008
00:57:48,382 --> 00:57:49,383
Tore all the doors down...
1009
00:57:49,466 --> 00:57:51,468
Trying to get in.
1010
00:57:51,551 --> 00:57:53,929
So we just, you know,
just having a ball.
1011
00:57:54,012 --> 00:57:55,222
♪ Sing a song ♪
1012
00:57:55,263 --> 00:57:57,557
♪ Sing a, sing a, sing a,sing a, sing a song ♪
1013
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,059
♪ Sing a song ♪
1014
00:57:59,101 --> 00:58:02,145
♪ Sing a, sing a, sing a,sing a, sing a song ♪
1015
00:58:02,229 --> 00:58:03,480
♪ Sing a song ♪
1016
00:58:03,563 --> 00:58:05,399
- A third of record incomeis from abroad.
1017
00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:08,402
They're a globalhot property now.
1018
00:58:08,485 --> 00:58:10,445
♪ If you sing a song today ♪
1019
00:58:10,529 --> 00:58:13,615
- The winneris Earth, Wind & Fire.
1020
00:58:13,699 --> 00:58:16,410
- The first Grammywas quite a thing, you know.
1021
00:58:16,451 --> 00:58:18,120
It's somethingthat you live for.
1022
00:58:18,203 --> 00:58:21,373
As we got bigger musically,
we got bigger personnel-wise.
1023
00:58:22,958 --> 00:58:25,085
Reese wanted to get a horn
section because the sound
1024
00:58:25,168 --> 00:58:26,920
had expanded so much.
1025
00:58:27,004 --> 00:58:29,047
So we broughtthe Phenix Horns...
1026
00:58:29,131 --> 00:58:30,590
♪ Let's meet today ♪
1027
00:58:30,674 --> 00:58:31,675
Which was Don Myrick...
1028
00:58:31,758 --> 00:58:33,301
- He plays so beautiful,don't you agree?
1029
00:58:33,385 --> 00:58:34,845
Louis Satterfield...
1030
00:58:34,928 --> 00:58:39,057
♪ Yeah ♪
1031
00:58:39,141 --> 00:58:40,726
Rahmlee Michael Davis
1032
00:58:40,809 --> 00:58:43,770
and Michael Harris--
1033
00:58:43,854 --> 00:58:46,857
four horns,like a Mack truck, man.
1034
00:58:51,361 --> 00:58:53,280
- We were havinga really good run.
1035
00:58:53,321 --> 00:58:54,990
There was a period therewhere everything we touched
1036
00:58:55,073 --> 00:58:55,949
turned to gold.
1037
00:59:01,371 --> 00:59:04,541
♪ ♪
1038
00:59:04,624 --> 00:59:07,127
Okay, that smile. That's it.
1039
00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:12,674
♪ ♪
1040
00:59:12,758 --> 00:59:16,428
- We started recordingthe next album, "Spirit."
1041
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:18,847
We were doing big arrangements
on the record,
1042
00:59:18,930 --> 00:59:22,434
beautifully arrangedby Charles Stepney.
1043
00:59:22,517 --> 00:59:25,145
You know, man,
we were in it then.
1044
00:59:25,187 --> 00:59:27,355
- ♪ Shining downits harvest light ♪
1045
00:59:27,439 --> 00:59:28,899
♪ Music all around... ♪
1046
00:59:28,982 --> 00:59:31,568
But then Maurice got
a phone call in the studio
1047
00:59:31,651 --> 00:59:33,070
saying that Charles
had just passed.
1048
00:59:36,198 --> 00:59:38,492
He had a heart attack.
1049
00:59:38,533 --> 00:59:40,702
Yeah, just outof the blue, boom.
1050
00:59:40,786 --> 00:59:42,996
He was out of here.
1051
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,624
I couldn't believe it,you know.
1052
00:59:45,707 --> 00:59:47,334
It was like
he was in wonderment,
1053
00:59:47,417 --> 00:59:48,418
like, how could this be?
1054
00:59:48,502 --> 00:59:49,961
I just talked to him.
1055
00:59:50,045 --> 00:59:53,548
And one minute he's there,
and then you're not?
1056
00:59:53,632 --> 00:59:55,634
- It affected mevery deeply, you know.
1057
00:59:55,717 --> 00:59:58,178
I was very emotional.
1058
00:59:58,220 --> 01:00:01,556
My dad, he had triggers.
1059
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,393
Charles dyingbrought up past trauma.
1060
01:00:11,733 --> 01:00:14,861
- Back then,where he grew up in Memphis,
1061
01:00:14,903 --> 01:00:16,905
it was a rarity of having
a father in the house.
1062
01:00:18,406 --> 01:00:22,786
- Maurice's fatherwas John White.
1063
01:00:22,869 --> 01:00:27,332
He was absent during mostof Maurice's childhood.
1064
01:00:27,374 --> 01:00:32,879
He owned a nightclub and waspart of that music scene.
1065
01:00:32,963 --> 01:00:37,592
But he was also
this gangster figure.
1066
01:00:37,676 --> 01:00:39,594
From what I understand,
1067
01:00:39,678 --> 01:00:41,388
one day he went into
one of his establishments,
1068
01:00:41,429 --> 01:00:47,811
and somebody who was not
his same skin color shot him.
1069
01:00:49,771 --> 01:00:53,984
- He is killed before Mauriceis five years old.
1070
01:00:56,903 --> 01:01:00,740
- When he talkedabout his life as a child,
1071
01:01:00,824 --> 01:01:03,076
his knee would go--tschoo--
1072
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,119
like that.
1073
01:01:08,206 --> 01:01:12,836
After Charles passed,it was hard for him to accept.
1074
01:01:12,919 --> 01:01:14,588
But the world doesn't care
1075
01:01:14,671 --> 01:01:17,382
who's gone
and who is not gone.
1076
01:01:17,465 --> 01:01:20,886
It just keeps on rolling.
1077
01:01:20,969 --> 01:01:25,015
Maurice learned almosteverything from Charles.
1078
01:01:25,098 --> 01:01:28,018
Maurice was like, oh, my God.
1079
01:01:28,101 --> 01:01:29,144
Now what do I do?
1080
01:01:45,118 --> 01:01:49,789
- I started studyingEgyptology.
1081
01:01:49,873 --> 01:01:54,377
I went into the pyramidsjust to meditate.
1082
01:01:54,461 --> 01:01:57,756
It gave me new energy,and I was able to evolve
1083
01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:00,133
into a different person.
1084
01:02:00,175 --> 01:02:04,012
It seemed like I was gettinghelp from the other side.
1085
01:02:04,095 --> 01:02:06,306
I was just fascinatedwith the whole thing,
1086
01:02:06,348 --> 01:02:09,267
the artistic value of Egypt,
1087
01:02:09,309 --> 01:02:12,520
the contributionsthat they made to society.
1088
01:02:12,604 --> 01:02:14,856
Look at how the pyramids
were built,
1089
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:16,900
with the science
and the technology.
1090
01:02:16,983 --> 01:02:21,071
They are humanityat its finest.
1091
01:02:21,154 --> 01:02:26,076
Maurice begins learningabout Afrofuturism,
1092
01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:29,996
the idea that these ancientcivilizations are not
1093
01:02:30,038 --> 01:02:33,583
just symbols of
Black people's past,
1094
01:02:33,667 --> 01:02:38,255
they are also the futureand the infinite possibilities
1095
01:02:38,338 --> 01:02:42,008
that exist throughoutthe universe,
1096
01:02:42,050 --> 01:02:44,844
the concept of space travel,
1097
01:02:44,928 --> 01:02:49,808
the existence of beingson other planets.
1098
01:02:49,891 --> 01:02:52,060
- The wholespace concept, aliens,
1099
01:02:52,143 --> 01:02:54,729
just opened up a door for me.
1100
01:02:54,813 --> 01:02:56,940
My dad
talked to me sometimes
1101
01:02:57,023 --> 01:02:59,150
about astral projections.
1102
01:02:59,234 --> 01:03:00,986
He was like,there was one time I felt
1103
01:03:01,069 --> 01:03:03,113
like I was out of my body.
1104
01:03:03,196 --> 01:03:04,698
He would come
back to the studio
1105
01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:08,952
with these outrageous stories
of being
1106
01:03:09,035 --> 01:03:13,498
picked up and taken in a
spaceship to another planet...
1107
01:03:16,126 --> 01:03:18,211
And meeting withextraterrestrials.
1108
01:03:18,253 --> 01:03:20,880
And we didn't know
how to deal with this.
1109
01:03:20,922 --> 01:03:24,301
We just, you know, hey,
man, that sounds cool.
1110
01:03:28,138 --> 01:03:32,017
- I saw "Close Encountersof the Third Kind."
1111
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:36,896
And I had a vision to writethe song "Fantasies."
1112
01:03:36,980 --> 01:03:39,983
And then all the wordsstarted to come.
1113
01:03:40,066 --> 01:03:42,694
♪ Every man has a place ♪
1114
01:03:42,777 --> 01:03:45,238
♪ In his heart,
there's a space ♪
1115
01:03:45,322 --> 01:03:51,369
♪ And the world can't erase
this fantasy ♪
1116
01:03:51,411 --> 01:03:53,663
♪ Take a ride in the sky ♪
1117
01:03:53,747 --> 01:03:56,249
♪ On our ship, fantasize ♪
1118
01:03:56,333 --> 01:04:01,838
♪ All your dreams will
come true miles away ♪
1119
01:04:01,921 --> 01:04:07,510
♪ Our voices
will ring forever ♪
1120
01:04:07,594 --> 01:04:12,766
♪ Until the 12th of never ♪
1121
01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:18,646
♪ We all will live, love
forever ♪
1122
01:04:18,730 --> 01:04:24,194
♪ As one ♪
1123
01:04:25,779 --> 01:04:26,821
Everything that I had studied,
1124
01:04:26,905 --> 01:04:29,949
I was trying to share itwith the public,
1125
01:04:29,991 --> 01:04:32,994
so maybe it could helpto find themselves.
1126
01:04:35,330 --> 01:04:37,707
That's why,on the album, "All 'N All,"
1127
01:04:37,791 --> 01:04:40,377
it has a lot of symbols.
1128
01:04:44,672 --> 01:04:46,716
Through their album artwork,
1129
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,637
I think he was shining a light
on our history and our future
1130
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,722
and how it's related.
1131
01:04:52,806 --> 01:04:54,641
He's inviting you
into this world.
1132
01:04:57,310 --> 01:04:59,396
- We had a lot of costumesthat were influenced
1133
01:04:59,479 --> 01:05:02,899
by Africa and space.
1134
01:05:02,982 --> 01:05:04,984
The real statement
wasn't really made
1135
01:05:05,026 --> 01:05:08,446
until Bill Whitten
stepped in--
1136
01:05:08,530 --> 01:05:10,615
very elaborate.
1137
01:05:16,746 --> 01:05:18,206
We changed our whole look.
1138
01:05:20,917 --> 01:05:24,087
- We decidedto expand the show.
1139
01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:27,006
We wanted to more or lessemulate theater
1140
01:05:27,090 --> 01:05:29,342
in order to getyour attention.
1141
01:05:34,556 --> 01:05:37,016
- Maurice wasn't afraidto spend the bread
1142
01:05:37,058 --> 01:05:42,522
and contact whoever was
on the A list of entertainment
1143
01:05:42,564 --> 01:05:44,607
to help Earth, Wind & Fire.
1144
01:05:44,691 --> 01:05:48,445
And the winner is
George Faison for "The Wiz."
1145
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,534
- Having choreographed"The Wiz,"
1146
01:05:54,576 --> 01:05:57,996
it was otherworldly for me.
1147
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:00,457
We had a black Dorothy.
1148
01:06:00,540 --> 01:06:04,544
That gave us anotherkind of sense of pride.
1149
01:06:04,627 --> 01:06:06,754
Maurice and I went to
New York to meet with George,
1150
01:06:06,838 --> 01:06:09,382
and George had all
these great ideas.
1151
01:06:09,466 --> 01:06:14,053
- They asked me to stage themfor their next tour,
1152
01:06:14,095 --> 01:06:15,346
"All 'N All."
1153
01:06:17,932 --> 01:06:20,894
- When it came on,we were great musicians,
1154
01:06:20,977 --> 01:06:24,397
but we wasn't organizedin our presentation.
1155
01:06:24,481 --> 01:06:28,568
So could you tell me,
can all Black people dance?
1156
01:06:28,610 --> 01:06:30,487
No.
1157
01:06:30,570 --> 01:06:31,613
No.
1158
01:06:31,696 --> 01:06:33,573
And that's very true.
1159
01:06:35,617 --> 01:06:38,244
You trying to tell me
the funkiest band
1160
01:06:38,286 --> 01:06:40,371
might have had
a lot of left feet?
1161
01:06:41,831 --> 01:06:43,416
- They allcould move to a degree,
1162
01:06:43,458 --> 01:06:45,585
but they were kindof raggedy country,
1163
01:06:45,668 --> 01:06:49,547
and they weren't as polishedand theatrical
1164
01:06:49,631 --> 01:06:51,424
as I could make them.
1165
01:06:51,466 --> 01:06:53,426
Because I wanted
them to be great.
1166
01:06:53,468 --> 01:06:55,053
I saw the greatness.
1167
01:06:55,136 --> 01:06:56,763
This is everybody.
1168
01:06:56,804 --> 01:06:58,223
Here we go.
1169
01:06:58,306 --> 01:07:00,558
One day, George is looking
at the front of the stage.
1170
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,311
And he says, hey, Ralph,
come off the drums.
1171
01:07:03,394 --> 01:07:04,938
Stand here next to Maurice.
1172
01:07:04,979 --> 01:07:07,273
Take this microphone,and start singing.
1173
01:07:07,357 --> 01:07:12,570
It was geometry and symmetry
and stuff like that.
1174
01:07:13,613 --> 01:07:16,115
We didn't reallyneed two drummers,
1175
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:19,786
and Freddie could go deeper.
1176
01:07:19,869 --> 01:07:21,371
That's how I got out front.
1177
01:07:22,580 --> 01:07:25,041
- It's about evolution,you know?
1178
01:07:25,124 --> 01:07:28,044
I always had a lot of ideas.
1179
01:07:28,127 --> 01:07:31,339
We had startedto investigate, like, magic.
1180
01:07:31,422 --> 01:07:33,800
The magic
of Doug Henning.
1181
01:07:37,303 --> 01:07:38,972
Doug Henning, at that time,
was the biggest
1182
01:07:39,013 --> 01:07:40,557
magician in the world.
1183
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:41,641
He had a show on NBC.
1184
01:07:45,103 --> 01:07:46,646
So Maurice calls him.
1185
01:07:46,688 --> 01:07:49,899
Everyone wondered, Maurice,
are you that crazy?
1186
01:07:49,983 --> 01:07:52,986
It was so out of the box.
1187
01:07:53,027 --> 01:07:56,155
Magic, music, dance.
1188
01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:59,158
That was
a choreographic nightmare.
1189
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,537
Somebody could have got
killed not doing things right.
1190
01:08:04,372 --> 01:08:07,125
We rehearsed every dayfor six months.
1191
01:08:07,208 --> 01:08:09,127
It was reallythe first production
1192
01:08:09,168 --> 01:08:11,212
that an African American grouphad really done,
1193
01:08:11,296 --> 01:08:15,508
putting all of those ideasinto one show.
1194
01:08:15,550 --> 01:08:16,884
We didn't know
what kind of effect
1195
01:08:16,968 --> 01:08:19,262
it would have on the people.
1196
01:08:21,306 --> 01:08:23,641
There's always a bit of fearwhen you face the unknown.
1197
01:08:28,896 --> 01:08:31,232
Dressing rooms are this way.
1198
01:08:31,316 --> 01:08:32,734
The stage is this way.
1199
01:08:34,736 --> 01:08:36,154
I wanted to go see them,
1200
01:08:36,237 --> 01:08:38,865
just to see if they
could pull that off.
1201
01:08:40,658 --> 01:08:42,869
- Back in that day,there were certain concerts
1202
01:08:42,910 --> 01:08:44,162
you had to go to.
1203
01:08:44,245 --> 01:08:46,623
That show sold out.
1204
01:08:46,706 --> 01:08:48,583
It was must-see.
1205
01:08:50,543 --> 01:08:52,420
I was there to photograph.
1206
01:08:52,503 --> 01:08:56,049
Reese would let me crawl in...
1207
01:08:56,132 --> 01:08:59,385
To beas unobtrusive as possible.
1208
01:08:59,427 --> 01:09:06,100
♪ ♪
1209
01:09:06,184 --> 01:09:10,605
You had the anticipation--
1210
01:09:10,688 --> 01:09:12,440
20,000 people.
1211
01:09:12,523 --> 01:09:16,319
And then, you know,
the lights go out.
1212
01:09:16,402 --> 01:09:18,655
Folks rush to their seats.
1213
01:09:22,241 --> 01:09:24,369
Presenting
1214
01:09:24,452 --> 01:09:29,248
the mighty eldersof the universe,
1215
01:09:29,332 --> 01:09:34,671
Earth, Wind & Fire.
1216
01:09:45,473 --> 01:09:47,934
It was one of the first
concerts I ever went to.
1217
01:09:48,017 --> 01:09:49,602
These guys came out,
1218
01:09:49,644 --> 01:09:52,313
and you're thinking,
what the heck?
1219
01:10:04,242 --> 01:10:06,703
And I was like, oh, shit.
1220
01:10:39,777 --> 01:10:42,655
- I rememberjust looking around the arena.
1221
01:10:42,697 --> 01:10:46,325
It wasn't even a show.
It was just musical theater.
1222
01:10:46,367 --> 01:10:49,620
It was just spectacular.
1223
01:10:49,704 --> 01:10:53,040
♪ Oh, oh ♪
1224
01:10:54,375 --> 01:10:55,501
It was almost like a sermon.
1225
01:11:12,518 --> 01:11:13,895
Verdine is intense.
1226
01:11:13,978 --> 01:11:15,938
The look in his eyeswhen he's playing--
1227
01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:18,065
like, Verdine would have been
a great punk rocker, man.
1228
01:11:19,776 --> 01:11:24,906
He uses the whole instrument,
and just a deep groove.
1229
01:11:24,989 --> 01:11:26,240
I love Verdine.
1230
01:11:26,324 --> 01:11:29,035
You now, he's--
what a dude, man.
1231
01:11:38,419 --> 01:11:40,213
Wait a minute.
1232
01:11:40,296 --> 01:11:41,297
When you have the magic,
1233
01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:43,633
you've gotta get
the crowd in your hands.
1234
01:11:57,271 --> 01:12:01,192
So the whole placeis mesmerized,
1235
01:12:01,275 --> 01:12:05,488
having Verdine levitateas he's playing.
1236
01:12:05,571 --> 01:12:08,407
And brother did not
miss a note, okay?
1237
01:12:08,491 --> 01:12:09,909
He playing sideways.
1238
01:12:09,951 --> 01:12:11,744
Okay, now he's got you.
1239
01:12:11,828 --> 01:12:13,162
You know,
there's people that can
1240
01:12:13,246 --> 01:12:14,330
pull a rabbit out of a hat,
1241
01:12:14,413 --> 01:12:15,998
but they can't make
an elephant disappear.
1242
01:12:19,585 --> 01:12:21,963
He was makingthe elephant fly.
1243
01:12:22,046 --> 01:12:26,092
Was there ever a fear
that a cord might break
1244
01:12:26,133 --> 01:12:28,928
or something fatal
might happen?
1245
01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:29,929
No.
1246
01:12:29,971 --> 01:12:33,224
I probably would think
like that now, but--
1247
01:12:33,307 --> 01:12:34,559
but not then.
1248
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:38,813
♪ Hey! ♪
1249
01:12:55,204 --> 01:12:57,999
♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
1250
01:12:58,082 --> 01:12:59,542
♪ When I see your face ♪
1251
01:12:59,625 --> 01:13:00,960
♪ Like the morning sun ♪
1252
01:13:01,002 --> 01:13:03,963
♪ You spark me to shine ♪
1253
01:13:04,005 --> 01:13:05,464
♪ Tell all the world ♪
1254
01:13:05,506 --> 01:13:06,966
♪ My need is fulfilled ♪
1255
01:13:07,049 --> 01:13:08,718
♪ And that's a new design ♪
1256
01:13:10,511 --> 01:13:12,179
♪ As long as you're near ♪
1257
01:13:12,263 --> 01:13:15,266
♪ There is no fear
of a victory ♪
1258
01:13:17,018 --> 01:13:18,394
♪ But when I'm away ♪
1259
01:13:18,477 --> 01:13:22,481
♪ Influences stray
my mind to disagree ♪
1260
01:13:22,523 --> 01:13:25,443
♪ I wanna see your face ♪
1261
01:13:25,526 --> 01:13:26,527
♪ In the morning sun ♪
1262
01:13:26,611 --> 01:13:28,279
♪ Ignite my energy ♪
1263
01:13:29,864 --> 01:13:31,532
♪ The cause and effect
of you ♪
1264
01:13:31,616 --> 01:13:32,909
♪ Has brought new meaning ♪
1265
01:13:32,992 --> 01:13:33,993
♪ In my life to me ♪
1266
01:13:36,495 --> 01:13:40,249
♪ Gonna tell the story
of the morning glory ♪
1267
01:13:40,333 --> 01:13:42,668
♪ All about
the serpentine fire ♪
1268
01:13:42,710 --> 01:13:45,171
♪ Surely as life begun ♪
1269
01:13:45,254 --> 01:13:46,714
♪ You will as one ♪
1270
01:13:46,797 --> 01:13:49,508
♪ Battle with
the serpentine fire ♪
1271
01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:54,764
♪ Oh, oh, yeah, oh, yeah ♪
1272
01:13:57,308 --> 01:13:58,517
♪ Yeah! ♪
1273
01:13:58,559 --> 01:14:02,521
♪ Oh, yeah,
oh, yeah, oh, yeah ♪
1274
01:14:02,563 --> 01:14:04,857
- Here were these Black menup there
1275
01:14:04,899 --> 01:14:09,236
doing something
as celestial and elegant
1276
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,031
and as beautiful as that.
1277
01:14:12,073 --> 01:14:15,910
It was just anotherkind of example for us.
1278
01:14:30,257 --> 01:14:33,177
I'm a Black kid in Hawaii.
1279
01:14:33,219 --> 01:14:35,888
You don't have a lotof people who look like you
1280
01:14:35,972 --> 01:14:37,556
and are achieving.
1281
01:14:37,598 --> 01:14:39,725
And I'm saying
to myself, well,
1282
01:14:39,809 --> 01:14:43,771
if they can do that,
what can I do?
1283
01:14:50,111 --> 01:14:54,115
They were trendsetters
at that particular time.
1284
01:14:57,284 --> 01:14:59,996
♪ ♪
1285
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:02,581
- Prince, Michael Jackson,all them guys,
1286
01:15:02,623 --> 01:15:05,042
they were down there
taking notes, man.
1287
01:15:05,126 --> 01:15:07,503
- Michael reallywanted to be Earth, Wind.
1288
01:15:07,586 --> 01:15:09,171
That's why he's coming to
the shows as early as '77
1289
01:15:09,255 --> 01:15:12,049
with a big yellow legal pad.
1290
01:15:12,133 --> 01:15:14,593
- Prince confessesto me later that, Jesus,
1291
01:15:14,677 --> 01:15:17,471
I saw that show,
and I almost quit.
1292
01:15:17,555 --> 01:15:20,433
I don't know if I can compete.
1293
01:15:20,474 --> 01:15:22,768
I loved it. I was a fan.
1294
01:15:22,852 --> 01:15:26,022
I felt the sound
and the spirit
1295
01:15:26,105 --> 01:15:28,357
of celebrating the past
1296
01:15:28,441 --> 01:15:30,401
but looking forward
to the future
1297
01:15:30,484 --> 01:15:33,821
and what's possiblein this world.
1298
01:15:35,322 --> 01:15:38,159
- There are songs thatmake you feel every emotion.
1299
01:15:38,242 --> 01:15:39,285
They make you wanna cry.
1300
01:15:39,368 --> 01:15:41,454
They make you wanna dance,
make you wanna fall in love.
1301
01:15:41,495 --> 01:15:43,039
Like this one.
1302
01:15:49,170 --> 01:15:54,467
A lot of my memories are
high school gym dances.
1303
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:57,094
I mean, "Reasons,"
that song lasted a long time.
1304
01:15:57,178 --> 01:15:58,095
Oh, it did.
1305
01:15:58,179 --> 01:16:00,514
So if you walked all
the way across the gym
1306
01:16:00,598 --> 01:16:03,267
for that slow danceand she said yes,
1307
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:04,894
you were locked in for about--
1308
01:16:04,977 --> 01:16:07,146
Well, on the flip side,
if you said yes to a dude
1309
01:16:07,229 --> 01:16:09,899
that was a little too sweaty
and a little too--
1310
01:16:09,982 --> 01:16:11,067
you were stuck.
1311
01:16:11,150 --> 01:16:12,276
You were stuck.
1312
01:16:12,359 --> 01:16:15,446
♪ Now I'm craving
your body ♪
1313
01:16:15,529 --> 01:16:17,073
♪ Is this real? ♪
1314
01:16:17,156 --> 01:16:18,657
♪ Temperature's rising ♪
1315
01:16:18,741 --> 01:16:20,534
♪ I don't wanna feel ♪
1316
01:16:20,618 --> 01:16:23,996
♪ I'm in the wrong place
to be real ♪
1317
01:16:24,038 --> 01:16:26,749
I thought "Reasons"
was going down the list
1318
01:16:26,832 --> 01:16:29,460
of all the reasons
that he loved this person.
1319
01:16:29,543 --> 01:16:32,213
- When you havea falsetto like Philip,
1320
01:16:32,296 --> 01:16:34,006
he could say anything,
and you're gonna be like,
1321
01:16:34,090 --> 01:16:37,510
this is so beautiful, and it's
so romantic, you know?
1322
01:16:37,551 --> 01:16:42,306
♪ Love ♪
1323
01:16:42,348 --> 01:16:48,479
How can people think that
this song is a love song?
1324
01:16:48,562 --> 01:16:49,814
♪ I'm longing to love you ♪
1325
01:16:49,897 --> 01:16:51,982
Let's talk about "Reasons."
1326
01:16:52,066 --> 01:16:55,361
There was a sister
that was fine as hell.
1327
01:16:55,444 --> 01:16:58,906
She came to the hotel,
got to my room.
1328
01:16:58,989 --> 01:17:00,699
Bam, bam.
1329
01:17:00,783 --> 01:17:02,743
I feel like...
1330
01:17:02,827 --> 01:17:07,414
You know, I'm just
the champion.
1331
01:17:07,498 --> 01:17:11,961
So early that morning,I hear her--
1332
01:17:12,044 --> 01:17:13,462
yes, honey?
1333
01:17:13,546 --> 01:17:15,506
She's talking to her dude.
1334
01:17:15,589 --> 01:17:18,717
- ♪ And in the morningwhen I rise ♪
1335
01:17:18,759 --> 01:17:22,513
♪ No longer feelinghypnotized ♪
1336
01:17:22,596 --> 01:17:26,559
♪ For no reason, our reasons ♪
1337
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:31,897
♪ Our reasons had no pride ♪
1338
01:17:31,981 --> 01:17:35,734
♪ After all our reasons why ♪
1339
01:17:35,776 --> 01:17:37,194
♪ All our reasons were a lie ♪
1340
01:17:37,278 --> 01:17:39,572
♪ All of our reasonswere a lie ♪
1341
01:17:39,613 --> 01:17:41,282
It's just a sex call.
1342
01:17:41,365 --> 01:17:42,658
That's it, you know?
1343
01:17:42,741 --> 01:17:46,328
So if you played it
at your wedding, I'm sorry.
1344
01:17:48,247 --> 01:17:50,499
My whole child--
everything is a lie, I guess.
1345
01:17:50,583 --> 01:17:51,917
It's just--well, it's crazy.
1346
01:17:52,001 --> 01:17:53,669
I think I like it
even better now.
1347
01:17:53,752 --> 01:17:58,424
♪ Only you ♪
1348
01:17:58,465 --> 01:18:01,677
Give your love to beautiful
sound of Mr. Philip Bailey.
1349
01:18:06,307 --> 01:18:09,643
- Maurice feltthat he's living his dream.
1350
01:18:09,727 --> 01:18:12,771
I felt so proud and so good.
1351
01:18:16,192 --> 01:18:19,278
One day, Maurice said,come here.
1352
01:18:19,361 --> 01:18:23,908
He said, I love you,but I don't wanna get married.
1353
01:18:23,949 --> 01:18:29,788
I said, I feel that I want you
to be my life partner forever.
1354
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:31,290
He said, okay.
1355
01:18:31,332 --> 01:18:33,500
So we're in it for life,right, no matter what happens?
1356
01:18:33,584 --> 01:18:34,960
I said, yes, right.
1357
01:18:35,002 --> 01:18:41,133
And that was, to me,
our marriage ceremony.
1358
01:18:41,217 --> 01:18:44,553
- ♪ In the morning light,yeah ♪
1359
01:18:44,637 --> 01:18:47,306
- He was justnot the marrying kind.
1360
01:18:47,348 --> 01:18:50,309
I don't think he could
make that level of commitment
1361
01:18:50,351 --> 01:18:54,813
or emotional connection,I don't believe.
1362
01:18:54,855 --> 01:18:57,816
And I told Maurice, I said,
we're gonna have a baby.
1363
01:18:57,858 --> 01:18:59,276
He said, are you--really?
1364
01:19:01,028 --> 01:19:06,325
Kahbran looked justlike him as an infant.
1365
01:19:06,367 --> 01:19:11,163
He became a fatherbut an absentee father.
1366
01:19:11,247 --> 01:19:12,414
♪ Oh ♪
1367
01:19:12,498 --> 01:19:15,376
Maurice was on the road.
1368
01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:18,587
- I remember, as a kid,it was hard for him
1369
01:19:18,671 --> 01:19:20,881
to give hugs at first.
1370
01:19:20,965 --> 01:19:22,841
But then I remember,
once we started hugging,
1371
01:19:22,883 --> 01:19:24,385
he'd be the one to hold on.
1372
01:19:24,468 --> 01:19:28,013
It felt like he'd be like...
1373
01:19:28,097 --> 01:19:31,850
He didn't know howto be a dad, right?
1374
01:19:31,934 --> 01:19:33,519
Earth, Wind & Firewas the most important
1375
01:19:33,602 --> 01:19:36,355
thing to him all the time.
1376
01:19:36,438 --> 01:19:39,692
- Yeah, I stayedin the studio 12, 14 hours.
1377
01:19:39,733 --> 01:19:41,527
I think I'm too much
of a perfectionist,
1378
01:19:41,568 --> 01:19:43,529
to a great extent.
1379
01:19:43,570 --> 01:19:45,781
'Cause the things I hear,
don't nobody be hearing them,
1380
01:19:45,864 --> 01:19:49,285
man, be saying, what's wrong
with you, you know?
1381
01:19:49,368 --> 01:19:50,703
Man, I don't know.
1382
01:19:50,744 --> 01:19:53,205
It just bug me till
I get it right, you know?
1383
01:19:53,289 --> 01:19:54,540
Yeah.
1384
01:19:58,085 --> 01:19:59,712
- Maurice wantedto be the best,
1385
01:19:59,795 --> 01:20:02,381
and he was always
wanting to outdo
1386
01:20:02,464 --> 01:20:03,841
anybody else that came along.
1387
01:20:03,924 --> 01:20:06,010
And we all kind ofadapted that attitude.
1388
01:20:06,093 --> 01:20:07,344
Maurice always said,
1389
01:20:07,428 --> 01:20:11,432
don't ever take successfor granted.
1390
01:20:11,515 --> 01:20:13,309
Don't do it.
1391
01:20:13,392 --> 01:20:15,227
Don't get comfortable.
1392
01:20:17,563 --> 01:20:20,065
- After a while,I was inspired
1393
01:20:20,107 --> 01:20:22,192
to expand my musical horizon,
1394
01:20:22,276 --> 01:20:24,737
create another sideof my career.
1395
01:20:24,778 --> 01:20:27,072
- White has investedin an entertainment
1396
01:20:27,114 --> 01:20:29,450
complex in Los Angeles.
1397
01:20:29,533 --> 01:20:30,659
Welcome to The Complex.
1398
01:20:30,743 --> 01:20:32,786
What is The Complex
all about?
1399
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:34,872
It's a concept
of bringing together
1400
01:20:34,955 --> 01:20:36,749
creativity under one roof.
1401
01:20:36,832 --> 01:20:39,001
We have two recording studios,
1402
01:20:39,084 --> 01:20:41,086
a sound stagefor video and film.
1403
01:20:41,170 --> 01:20:44,923
We have rehearsal facilities
for any and everybody.
1404
01:20:44,965 --> 01:20:49,887
Maurice bought a studio
and opened a record company.
1405
01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:51,764
And they had a party.
1406
01:20:51,847 --> 01:20:53,932
And we were not invited.
1407
01:20:54,016 --> 01:20:56,685
It was a slap in the face.
1408
01:20:56,769 --> 01:20:59,021
I was constantly busy.
1409
01:21:03,609 --> 01:21:06,987
I was also producinga lot of different acts--
1410
01:21:07,071 --> 01:21:10,157
Barbra Streisand,Neil Diamond,
1411
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,410
Jennifer Holliday,Deniece Williams.
1412
01:21:13,494 --> 01:21:14,787
And I had The Emotions.
1413
01:21:16,455 --> 01:21:20,459
- The Emotionswas with my two sisters.
1414
01:21:20,501 --> 01:21:23,253
We were signed outof Maurice's production.
1415
01:21:23,337 --> 01:21:26,632
We had, of course,
"Best of My Love."
1416
01:21:26,715 --> 01:21:28,717
♪ Whoa, whoa ♪
1417
01:21:28,801 --> 01:21:30,928
♪ You got the best
of my love ♪
1418
01:21:31,011 --> 01:21:32,638
♪ Whoa, whoa ♪
1419
01:21:32,679 --> 01:21:33,931
♪ You got the best
of my love ♪
1420
01:21:34,014 --> 01:21:36,767
He's the best producer
ever because Maurice,
1421
01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:38,936
you know, he goesfor everything big.
1422
01:21:39,019 --> 01:21:40,396
♪ Whoa, whoa ♪
1423
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:44,066
♪ Oh, you've got
the best of my love ♪
1424
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:47,820
♪ Goin' in and outof changes ♪
1425
01:21:47,903 --> 01:21:49,655
Maurice took on a lot.
1426
01:21:49,696 --> 01:21:51,532
You know, sometimes
it was a gamble.
1427
01:22:02,292 --> 01:22:04,002
- It didn't look like itto the public,
1428
01:22:04,044 --> 01:22:06,171
but everything
operated at a deficit.
1429
01:22:06,255 --> 01:22:09,425
Running The Complexwas expensive.
1430
01:22:09,508 --> 01:22:12,177
In addition, the tourswere a boondoggle
1431
01:22:12,219 --> 01:22:14,096
around Maurice's neck.
1432
01:22:14,179 --> 01:22:16,849
So they hadthe magic, theatrics,
1433
01:22:16,890 --> 01:22:18,517
the four Phenix Horns,
1434
01:22:18,559 --> 01:22:22,146
three female backgroundsingers, and the band--
1435
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:24,690
60, 70 on the road.
1436
01:22:24,731 --> 01:22:26,150
It was like the Mardi Gras
at hotels.
1437
01:22:26,233 --> 01:22:28,026
It was just too many
damn people.
1438
01:22:30,028 --> 01:22:32,781
- My mom, she was oneof the costume designers.
1439
01:22:32,865 --> 01:22:34,783
I believe she spent
almost $1 million
1440
01:22:34,867 --> 01:22:39,163
on fabric and other supplies
in one year.
1441
01:22:39,246 --> 01:22:44,209
- Maurice told me that,from '77 on,
1442
01:22:44,293 --> 01:22:47,045
he came off the road
at the minimum
1443
01:22:47,087 --> 01:22:51,049
of $1/2 million in debt
for every major tour they did.
1444
01:22:51,091 --> 01:22:53,385
He had a hugecash flow problem.
1445
01:22:53,427 --> 01:22:56,180
It's not all glory
and lights up here, you know.
1446
01:22:56,263 --> 01:22:57,806
- It's a whole nother trip.
- A lot of work.
1447
01:22:57,890 --> 01:22:59,683
A lot of things
they don't know about.
1448
01:22:59,766 --> 01:23:00,976
A lot of heavy pressures.
1449
01:23:01,059 --> 01:23:02,227
That's right.
1450
01:23:02,269 --> 01:23:06,190
He couldn't not invest
in not giving the best.
1451
01:23:06,273 --> 01:23:11,153
He believedin his vision, man.
1452
01:23:11,236 --> 01:23:13,238
- Maurice wasunder a lot of pressure
1453
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:19,828
and had to make a record,
I think for the advance.
1454
01:23:22,498 --> 01:23:25,042
- I figured,okay, the disco is here.
1455
01:23:25,125 --> 01:23:26,376
It's not gonna go away.
1456
01:23:26,460 --> 01:23:29,046
Let me do a real gooddisco record.
1457
01:23:29,129 --> 01:23:30,422
♪ Dance ♪
1458
01:23:30,506 --> 01:23:32,174
- Called The Emotions into sing it with us.
1459
01:23:32,257 --> 01:23:34,676
♪ Boogie Wonderland ♪
1460
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,596
♪ Ha, ha, dance ♪
1461
01:23:39,598 --> 01:23:43,769
♪ Boogie wonderland ♪
1462
01:23:43,810 --> 01:23:48,857
♪ Midnight creeps so slowly
into hearts of men ♪
1463
01:23:48,941 --> 01:23:50,943
♪ Who need more
than they get ♪
1464
01:23:51,026 --> 01:23:52,444
♪ Daylight... ♪
1465
01:23:52,528 --> 01:23:55,280
"Boogie Wonderland,"
it became such a big thing.
1466
01:23:55,364 --> 01:23:59,034
♪ Who has laid
too many debts ♪
1467
01:23:59,117 --> 01:24:00,869
♪ The mirror... ♪
1468
01:24:00,953 --> 01:24:02,204
- That is our oneand only offering
1469
01:24:02,287 --> 01:24:03,997
to the disco music scene.
1470
01:24:04,081 --> 01:24:06,083
♪ Says, baby, uh,
uh, it don't work ♪
1471
01:24:06,124 --> 01:24:09,920
♪ You say your prayers
though you don't care ♪
1472
01:24:10,003 --> 01:24:13,298
♪ You dance
and shake the hat ♪
1473
01:24:13,382 --> 01:24:15,384
"Dance."
1474
01:24:15,467 --> 01:24:19,388
It just--you know, it
wasn't that I didn't like it,
1475
01:24:19,471 --> 01:24:21,390
but it didn't go into my soul.
1476
01:24:21,473 --> 01:24:24,810
It didn't go into my core
like their music did.
1477
01:24:24,851 --> 01:24:28,063
♪ Yeah ♪
1478
01:24:28,146 --> 01:24:31,316
♪ All the records
are playing ♪
1479
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,569
♪ And my heart keeps saying ♪
1480
01:24:33,652 --> 01:24:36,113
♪ Boogie Wonderland ♪
1481
01:24:36,154 --> 01:24:37,948
- There was a pressurekind of over your head
1482
01:24:38,031 --> 01:24:41,159
that you had to try to sellas many albums every time,
1483
01:24:41,201 --> 01:24:43,287
just like before, you know?
1484
01:24:43,370 --> 01:24:45,122
- My other guest,David Foster,
1485
01:24:45,205 --> 01:24:47,165
he has done session work
for Rod Stewart,
1486
01:24:47,249 --> 01:24:49,459
Dolly Parton, George Harrison.
1487
01:24:49,501 --> 01:24:51,253
I was just starting
as a record producer.
1488
01:24:51,336 --> 01:24:52,254
I'd had a couple of hits.
1489
01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:54,464
It was a goal of mine to reach
1490
01:24:54,548 --> 01:24:55,757
and work with
Earth, Wind & Fire.
1491
01:24:58,802 --> 01:25:00,512
♪ ♪
1492
01:25:00,596 --> 01:25:03,599
Maurice did ask meto come up to his house
1493
01:25:03,682 --> 01:25:04,933
and write with him.
1494
01:25:05,017 --> 01:25:06,560
We'd sit at the piano.
1495
01:25:06,643 --> 01:25:08,729
And I was trying to get
a hit every time out.
1496
01:25:08,812 --> 01:25:11,940
That was my mission.
1497
01:25:12,024 --> 01:25:14,610
Maurice and Iwere totally inspired,
1498
01:25:14,693 --> 01:25:18,196
and we worked from
7:00 p.m. till 7:00 a.m.
1499
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,283
And in those 12 hours,
we wrote the genesis
1500
01:25:21,366 --> 01:25:24,745
of almost every songon the "I Am" album.
1501
01:25:24,828 --> 01:25:27,331
- ♪ I found that loveprovides the key ♪
1502
01:25:27,414 --> 01:25:29,291
- He brought a new lifeto Earth, Wind & Fire,
1503
01:25:29,374 --> 01:25:31,960
like his applications
are on top, okay?
1504
01:25:32,044 --> 01:25:35,422
So it gave us a new
sound, a new energy.
1505
01:25:35,505 --> 01:25:38,925
"I Am" did really well--
double-platinum status.
1506
01:25:39,009 --> 01:25:40,218
♪ Is written in the stone ♪
1507
01:25:40,260 --> 01:25:42,012
♪ Written in the stone ♪
1508
01:25:42,054 --> 01:25:43,972
- In the studiowith the guys in the band,
1509
01:25:44,056 --> 01:25:46,391
I was a control freak.
1510
01:25:46,475 --> 01:25:49,728
I never hesitated
to tell anybody
1511
01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:51,355
to try something different
or to play this,
1512
01:25:51,438 --> 01:25:53,106
or you're playing
a wrong chord.
1513
01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:54,900
Like, the fan thing went
out the window the minute
1514
01:25:54,983 --> 01:25:56,360
the red light went on.
1515
01:25:59,071 --> 01:26:00,072
You know, it's good.
1516
01:26:00,113 --> 01:26:02,741
We get a kick out of working
with different people,
1517
01:26:02,783 --> 01:26:05,410
and they get a kick
out of working with us.
1518
01:26:06,953 --> 01:26:13,543
David Foster coming in the
band was hard on the band.
1519
01:26:14,461 --> 01:26:16,254
They said, man, we should be
in there writing them songs,
1520
01:26:16,296 --> 01:26:18,423
not that white boy.
1521
01:26:18,507 --> 01:26:22,678
But David Foster happenedto bring the goods.
1522
01:26:22,761 --> 01:26:25,555
It became more complicated
because Maurice
1523
01:26:25,597 --> 01:26:29,434
was bringing this person forthat or that person for that.
1524
01:26:31,436 --> 01:26:34,856
Every person he brought in
was to make Earth, Wind & Fire
1525
01:26:34,940 --> 01:26:37,442
superlative.
1526
01:26:37,484 --> 01:26:40,779
- We played lesserand lesser roles.
1527
01:26:40,821 --> 01:26:44,282
And then Maurice startedproducing records
1528
01:26:44,366 --> 01:26:47,786
without our involvement.
1529
01:26:47,869 --> 01:26:51,039
We were definitely likea session musician.
1530
01:26:51,123 --> 01:26:53,125
You just come inand do your part.
1531
01:26:53,166 --> 01:26:54,710
Sing on this, sing on that.
1532
01:26:54,793 --> 01:26:56,962
♪ Oh, do, do be us ♪
1533
01:26:57,045 --> 01:26:58,630
You should be behind.
1534
01:26:58,672 --> 01:27:01,633
As far as the rules
of what we had to do,
1535
01:27:01,675 --> 01:27:02,718
Maurice made them.
1536
01:27:02,801 --> 01:27:04,261
We followed them. Simple.
1537
01:27:05,846 --> 01:27:09,808
The idea of a democracy
is an illusion in a band.
1538
01:27:11,518 --> 01:27:15,981
I felt unappreciatedand betrayed.
1539
01:27:21,611 --> 01:27:23,488
Everybody in good spirits?
1540
01:27:25,198 --> 01:27:27,659
All right.
1541
01:27:27,701 --> 01:27:30,912
You know, uh...
1542
01:27:30,996 --> 01:27:35,709
love is a subject that
always seems to come around.
1543
01:27:35,792 --> 01:27:36,668
It's always...
1544
01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:37,836
- Okay, let metell you something.
1545
01:27:37,878 --> 01:27:39,713
Yes?
1546
01:27:39,796 --> 01:27:44,176
Maurice was not exactly
the most faithful person.
1547
01:27:44,259 --> 01:27:46,178
He had other women
on the road.
1548
01:27:46,261 --> 01:27:52,184
♪ For a while, to love
was all we could do ♪
1549
01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:54,144
♪ We were young and we knew ♪
1550
01:27:54,227 --> 01:27:58,398
♪ And our eyes were alive ♪
1551
01:27:58,482 --> 01:28:02,068
♪ Deep inside,
we knew our love was true ♪
1552
01:28:02,152 --> 01:28:03,445
♪ For a while ♪
1553
01:28:03,528 --> 01:28:05,489
- Maurice, in fact,got someone pregnant
1554
01:28:05,572 --> 01:28:08,033
while he was on the road.
1555
01:28:08,116 --> 01:28:11,203
I didn't find out until maybe
1556
01:28:11,286 --> 01:28:14,956
a few years
after she was born.
1557
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:16,541
Everyone but me knew.
1558
01:28:16,583 --> 01:28:18,543
♪ Begin the dance, yeah ♪
1559
01:28:18,627 --> 01:28:22,214
♪ Something happened
along the way ♪
1560
01:28:22,297 --> 01:28:25,467
♪ And yesterday
was all we had, oh ♪
1561
01:28:25,550 --> 01:28:29,262
- And then he hadanother son from someone else.
1562
01:28:29,346 --> 01:28:30,764
♪ And yesterday
was all we had ♪
1563
01:28:30,847 --> 01:28:34,100
I'm Maurice's youngest son,
that we know about.
1564
01:28:36,436 --> 01:28:38,230
♪ After the love is gone ♪
1565
01:28:38,271 --> 01:28:39,773
♪ Oh, yeah, yeah ♪
1566
01:28:39,856 --> 01:28:43,568
- Around the time whenmy mom was making costuming,
1567
01:28:43,652 --> 01:28:45,612
my dad pursued her,
and they had a connection.
1568
01:28:46,988 --> 01:28:51,326
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
1569
01:28:51,409 --> 01:28:53,495
He and my mom had a pretty
tumultuous relationship.
1570
01:28:53,578 --> 01:28:56,540
He was continuallypulling back.
1571
01:28:56,623 --> 01:28:57,916
By the time I was born,
they'd been seeing each other
1572
01:28:57,999 --> 01:29:00,168
for, I believe,
around 20 years at that point.
1573
01:29:00,252 --> 01:29:02,003
I said, how can you do that?
1574
01:29:02,087 --> 01:29:06,258
And he said, I'm a star.
1575
01:29:06,299 --> 01:29:08,426
It was like, I can do
whatever the fuck I want.
1576
01:29:08,468 --> 01:29:11,263
♪ Love, love has gone ♪
1577
01:29:11,346 --> 01:29:13,056
And I said, you know what?
1578
01:29:13,139 --> 01:29:15,392
That makes me feel unworthy.
1579
01:29:15,475 --> 01:29:17,561
I am not unworthy.
1580
01:29:17,644 --> 01:29:19,271
♪ After the love has gone ♪
1581
01:29:19,354 --> 01:29:21,022
And I moved out.
1582
01:29:22,816 --> 01:29:24,317
♪ Yeah ♪
1583
01:29:24,401 --> 01:29:27,112
He couldn't believe
I did it, and I did it.
1584
01:29:27,153 --> 01:29:30,615
♪ Oh, oh ♪
1585
01:29:30,657 --> 01:29:35,579
♪ Oh ♪
1586
01:29:36,788 --> 01:29:39,541
- It was really tough for meto want to pursue
1587
01:29:39,624 --> 01:29:41,543
a relationship with him.
1588
01:29:41,626 --> 01:29:43,420
Even as a child, I was
questioning my mother.
1589
01:29:43,503 --> 01:29:46,298
You know, I'd ask,
why is he so distant?
1590
01:29:46,339 --> 01:29:48,758
And she explained it
to me in what I think
1591
01:29:48,842 --> 01:29:50,010
is a beautiful way,
and it's how
1592
01:29:50,093 --> 01:29:52,387
I articulate it to this day.
1593
01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:53,638
Everybody has a door
in their heart
1594
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,265
they let love in and out of.
1595
01:29:55,348 --> 01:29:57,142
And he had enough trauma
when he was younger
1596
01:29:57,183 --> 01:29:58,643
that it closed
the door for him,
1597
01:29:58,685 --> 01:30:01,104
and he could onlyget it open so far.
1598
01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:03,815
But when he was in his bagand making music,
1599
01:30:03,899 --> 01:30:06,651
that door would openas wide as it could.
1600
01:30:13,658 --> 01:30:14,993
♪ ♪
1601
01:30:15,035 --> 01:30:16,786
- The '80s was reallykind of strange
1602
01:30:16,870 --> 01:30:20,624
because musicwas changing a lot.
1603
01:30:20,707 --> 01:30:23,084
We are in an evolving stage
right now.
1604
01:30:23,168 --> 01:30:24,669
I think it's all evolving
1605
01:30:24,711 --> 01:30:26,087
around the
changing technology.
1606
01:30:27,839 --> 01:30:30,967
- Bands werekind of navigating
1607
01:30:31,009 --> 01:30:34,012
the transitions that were
taking place sonically.
1608
01:30:34,095 --> 01:30:39,100
Now you're in the drum machineera and the synthesizer era.
1609
01:30:39,184 --> 01:30:42,020
But Earth, Wind & Fire
was known
1610
01:30:42,062 --> 01:30:46,650
for their big horn sections
and amazing arrangements.
1611
01:30:46,691 --> 01:30:51,571
Maurice needed a wholedifferent-sounding record.
1612
01:30:51,655 --> 01:30:56,034
Maurice and I got together
through my wife,
1613
01:30:56,076 --> 01:30:58,662
Wanda, of The Emotions.
1614
01:30:58,745 --> 01:31:01,373
Maurice was digging
some of the things
1615
01:31:01,456 --> 01:31:05,710
that I was playing with
The Brothers Johnson.
1616
01:31:05,794 --> 01:31:09,631
Maurice came over to me,
and he said, hey, Wayne,
1617
01:31:09,714 --> 01:31:13,551
you got any tunesfor the Fire?
1618
01:31:13,635 --> 01:31:16,221
Reese and I were
going for hits.
1619
01:31:16,304 --> 01:31:17,806
So I gave him four songs,
1620
01:31:17,889 --> 01:31:20,183
and he decided
to cut three of them,
1621
01:31:20,266 --> 01:31:23,561
one being "Let's Groove."
1622
01:31:23,603 --> 01:31:27,065
♪ Let's groove tonight ♪
1623
01:31:27,148 --> 01:31:29,109
♪ Share the spice of life ♪
1624
01:31:31,611 --> 01:31:35,865
"Let's Groove" wasn't a true
Earth, Wind & Fire song,
1625
01:31:35,949 --> 01:31:38,743
that metaphysicalkind of vibe.
1626
01:31:38,785 --> 01:31:43,331
It was just one tune to bridgethem over into the '80s.
1627
01:31:43,415 --> 01:31:46,751
♪ It's all right,
all right ♪
1628
01:31:46,835 --> 01:31:48,545
- "Let's Groove"was a hit record
1629
01:31:48,628 --> 01:31:50,422
that we needed at the time.
1630
01:31:50,505 --> 01:31:51,756
We were relieved
because we said,
1631
01:31:51,798 --> 01:31:53,925
we made it in
on the 1-yard line, you know.
1632
01:31:53,967 --> 01:31:59,514
♪ Gonna tell you what
you can do with our love ♪
1633
01:31:59,597 --> 01:32:02,017
♪ All right ♪
1634
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:03,643
♪ Let you know, girl ♪
1635
01:32:03,727 --> 01:32:05,186
- You're tryingto stay relevant,
1636
01:32:05,270 --> 01:32:08,064
but, I mean, there were
some badass bands out there.
1637
01:32:08,148 --> 01:32:09,274
♪ All right ♪
1638
01:32:09,315 --> 01:32:11,109
♪ You will findpeace of mind ♪
1639
01:32:11,151 --> 01:32:14,529
Each decade brings
new music, new artists,
1640
01:32:14,612 --> 01:32:16,781
new superstars.
1641
01:32:16,823 --> 01:32:19,159
Mike hit the home runwith "Thriller."
1642
01:32:19,242 --> 01:32:21,619
Lionel hit the home runand, of course, Prince.
1643
01:32:21,703 --> 01:32:27,292
♪ We can boogie
on down now ♪
1644
01:32:27,333 --> 01:32:29,794
♪ Boogie on down ♪
1645
01:32:29,836 --> 01:32:32,964
- We werevying for our place.
1646
01:32:33,048 --> 01:32:34,549
Where are wein the scheme of things?
1647
01:32:34,632 --> 01:32:37,594
♪ We boogie
on down, on down ♪
1648
01:32:37,677 --> 01:32:43,099
That magic, that combo,
it's very hard to keep
1649
01:32:43,183 --> 01:32:45,643
something like that going.
1650
01:32:45,727 --> 01:32:48,855
Maurice was a private guy.
1651
01:32:48,938 --> 01:32:53,151
He didn't let mesee him sweat, but
1652
01:32:53,193 --> 01:32:57,739
he had a lot of things
going on at one time.
1653
01:32:57,822 --> 01:32:58,990
To the outside world,
1654
01:32:59,032 --> 01:33:05,705
there was this positive
love image presented.
1655
01:33:05,789 --> 01:33:08,666
But to us, it was
totally different.
1656
01:33:08,750 --> 01:33:12,337
Maurice was alwaysseparated from everyone.
1657
01:33:12,378 --> 01:33:15,131
There was only certain peoplethat could do an interview.
1658
01:33:15,173 --> 01:33:17,300
If you take a picture,
you must stand here,
1659
01:33:17,383 --> 01:33:19,260
just definite positions.
1660
01:33:19,344 --> 01:33:21,846
And there were things that
were done intentionally
1661
01:33:21,888 --> 01:33:23,681
to just make you feel small.
1662
01:33:26,351 --> 01:33:28,436
Gotta do it differently.
1663
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:32,190
- For one thing, we knewwe weren't getting paid right.
1664
01:33:32,232 --> 01:33:34,109
Yes, things were expensive,
1665
01:33:34,192 --> 01:33:38,196
but we were generatingmillions of dollars
1666
01:33:38,238 --> 01:33:42,867
and only making $2,500 a week.
1667
01:33:42,951 --> 01:33:47,580
I think it was less thansome of the roadies.
1668
01:33:47,664 --> 01:33:48,915
For the first eight years.
1669
01:33:48,998 --> 01:33:51,167
Maurice took
everybody's publishing.
1670
01:33:51,251 --> 01:33:54,045
- My first royalty check,Maurice handed it to me.
1671
01:33:54,129 --> 01:33:56,714
He said, here'syour royalties for the record.
1672
01:33:56,756 --> 01:33:57,799
And I looked at Maurice.
1673
01:33:57,882 --> 01:34:00,093
It was like, what's this?
1674
01:34:01,553 --> 01:34:04,389
- Maurice was very slowto give up
1675
01:34:04,472 --> 01:34:07,392
any kind of credit to anybody.
1676
01:34:07,433 --> 01:34:09,018
The whole damn band
1677
01:34:09,102 --> 01:34:10,728
should have gotten
co-production credit,
1678
01:34:10,770 --> 01:34:13,648
but he had to be perceived
1679
01:34:13,731 --> 01:34:17,277
as the single championof the sound.
1680
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:18,945
Some of the other guys
1681
01:34:19,028 --> 01:34:20,613
thought we deservedbetter than that,
1682
01:34:20,697 --> 01:34:22,866
and I'm inclined to agree.
1683
01:34:22,949 --> 01:34:25,618
- There's no reasonto go through
1684
01:34:25,702 --> 01:34:27,912
that kind of a treatment
without being paid.
1685
01:34:27,954 --> 01:34:29,581
If you're not making
any money,
1686
01:34:29,664 --> 01:34:32,208
why be there
and be treated that way?
1687
01:34:34,252 --> 01:34:35,920
I never came back.
1688
01:34:38,339 --> 01:34:43,303
- The Phenix Horns leftto work with Phil Collins.
1689
01:34:43,386 --> 01:34:45,638
It was just bad blood.
1690
01:34:45,722 --> 01:34:48,224
And then him and Al
fell out, and Al quit.
1691
01:34:50,935 --> 01:34:53,688
The party's gotta
end sometime, you know.
1692
01:34:57,275 --> 01:35:00,862
- It was a big blowbecause, after that,
1693
01:35:00,945 --> 01:35:03,239
the band's sound changed.
1694
01:35:14,834 --> 01:35:17,754
- The thing is is tryingto keep a band together
1695
01:35:17,795 --> 01:35:21,007
and stay commercialbut yet artistic.
1696
01:35:21,090 --> 01:35:22,884
It's a very hard thing to do.
1697
01:35:22,967 --> 01:35:25,595
♪ No self control ♪
1698
01:35:25,678 --> 01:35:29,641
♪ A chain reaction
as my body lets go ♪
1699
01:35:29,724 --> 01:35:32,143
♪ A strange kind of light ♪
1700
01:35:32,227 --> 01:35:36,105
♪ The tempo takes me
and the circuit excites ♪
1701
01:35:36,189 --> 01:35:37,148
♪ Magnetic ♪
1702
01:35:37,190 --> 01:35:38,983
♪ The rhythm
of a dangerous... ♪
1703
01:35:39,025 --> 01:35:43,780
- The Earth, Wind & Firebrand shifted.
1704
01:35:43,863 --> 01:35:46,366
With all my heart,
I think that "Faces"
1705
01:35:46,449 --> 01:35:48,701
was the last great record.
1706
01:35:48,785 --> 01:35:51,246
The rest of the stuffis suspect.
1707
01:35:51,329 --> 01:35:53,706
- What is it about"Raise!," "Powerlight,"
1708
01:35:53,790 --> 01:35:56,459
and "Electric Universe"that has you feeling
1709
01:35:56,542 --> 01:35:57,877
that it's not up to par?
1710
01:35:57,961 --> 01:36:00,505
Maybe it's because
we had very little to do
1711
01:36:00,588 --> 01:36:02,382
with any of those records.
1712
01:36:04,467 --> 01:36:06,594
♪ A new kind of beat ♪
1713
01:36:06,678 --> 01:36:08,846
I found them unlistenable.
1714
01:36:08,888 --> 01:36:12,517
Seemed to me to be Maurice
reaching for an audience.
1715
01:36:12,558 --> 01:36:14,352
But it didn't havethat groove.
1716
01:36:14,435 --> 01:36:15,812
♪ Suck you in ♪
1717
01:36:15,895 --> 01:36:17,772
♪ You'll never last ♪
1718
01:36:17,855 --> 01:36:19,607
♪ Step in the light tonight ♪
1719
01:36:19,691 --> 01:36:21,276
♪ Come makethe sparks ignite ♪
1720
01:36:21,359 --> 01:36:22,694
♪ Step in the light ♪
1721
01:36:22,735 --> 01:36:25,780
- That timehad Maurice searching.
1722
01:36:25,863 --> 01:36:27,949
You know, success
has many fathers,
1723
01:36:28,032 --> 01:36:29,867
but failure is an orphan.
1724
01:36:36,165 --> 01:36:39,544
I think the stress of all of
it was starting to get to him.
1725
01:36:39,627 --> 01:36:42,964
Beyond anything else,
he was fatigued.
1726
01:36:43,047 --> 01:36:44,674
- Constantly touringall the time
1727
01:36:44,757 --> 01:36:46,926
and then doing allthe other work, too,
1728
01:36:47,010 --> 01:36:50,972
I was always the onewho had to carry the load.
1729
01:36:51,055 --> 01:36:53,391
- He had decadesof emotional blockage.
1730
01:36:53,433 --> 01:36:56,477
You push your feelings
down for only so long.
1731
01:36:56,561 --> 01:36:58,396
They have to go somewhere.
1732
01:36:58,438 --> 01:37:01,816
And if you don't let them out,
man, some shit can happen.
1733
01:37:09,198 --> 01:37:13,494
We were called
to a meeting at The Complex.
1734
01:37:13,578 --> 01:37:14,912
We all gathered.
1735
01:37:14,996 --> 01:37:17,248
Maurice came down.
1736
01:37:17,290 --> 01:37:21,002
He said, guys, you know,I've been thinking.
1737
01:37:21,085 --> 01:37:23,588
I wanna go my own way.
1738
01:37:23,629 --> 01:37:27,008
And I think that
1739
01:37:27,091 --> 01:37:29,469
I'm gonna put Earth, Wind
& Fire on the back burner.
1740
01:37:32,305 --> 01:37:33,681
Are you kidding?
1741
01:37:33,765 --> 01:37:35,308
My heart sunk down to my toes.
1742
01:37:35,391 --> 01:37:38,436
I was like, Jesus.
1743
01:37:38,478 --> 01:37:41,564
He said that, as of today,
1744
01:37:41,647 --> 01:37:45,151
we're going tostop employment.
1745
01:37:45,234 --> 01:37:50,073
And we have to get ourwardrobe out of the lockers
1746
01:37:50,156 --> 01:37:52,200
because they weregonna be sold.
1747
01:37:55,244 --> 01:37:59,457
We were pretty much
in shock at that point.
1748
01:37:59,499 --> 01:38:03,252
- I was upsetabout the way it was done.
1749
01:38:03,294 --> 01:38:06,839
You can't call a meeting
and say, okay, it's over
1750
01:38:06,923 --> 01:38:09,967
with no warning at all.
1751
01:38:10,051 --> 01:38:12,387
- I don't think anybodywas as close
1752
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:15,473
as Maurice and I were,
1753
01:38:15,556 --> 01:38:19,811
so it was definitely a shaker.
1754
01:38:19,894 --> 01:38:21,396
But it was over.
1755
01:38:23,564 --> 01:38:26,067
- Everybody justkind of went their own way.
1756
01:38:26,150 --> 01:38:28,861
We were all estranged.
1757
01:38:28,945 --> 01:38:30,822
My credit card bounced.
1758
01:38:30,863 --> 01:38:35,660
Me and my wife, at that time,panicked, sold the property,
1759
01:38:35,701 --> 01:38:37,829
and moved to Denver.
1760
01:38:37,912 --> 01:38:39,831
I was on
a construction site.
1761
01:38:39,872 --> 01:38:43,709
I also was working
at a Federated stereo
1762
01:38:43,793 --> 01:38:48,089
on Sunset and La Brea,
selling stereo.
1763
01:38:48,172 --> 01:38:50,258
That was a tough period.
1764
01:38:50,341 --> 01:38:52,510
So yeah.
1765
01:38:52,552 --> 01:38:55,263
- I'm sure it was devastatingto some of them.
1766
01:38:57,098 --> 01:39:00,184
But I had to let it goat that point.
1767
01:39:00,268 --> 01:39:04,605
I needed a break,
and I took a break, you know.
1768
01:39:04,689 --> 01:39:07,483
Yeah, I needed it.
1769
01:39:07,567 --> 01:39:10,027
- These guys werethat family that he created.
1770
01:39:10,111 --> 01:39:15,199
And he essentially did to them
1771
01:39:15,283 --> 01:39:18,286
what was done to him
when he was a child.
1772
01:39:20,288 --> 01:39:22,331
He left them before
they could leave him.
1773
01:39:24,542 --> 01:39:25,543
He'd call me.
1774
01:39:25,585 --> 01:39:30,089
And I said to him, you're
still holding on to the...
1775
01:39:30,173 --> 01:39:32,592
Non-forgiveness of what
1776
01:39:32,675 --> 01:39:33,676
your mother did to you.
1777
01:39:36,053 --> 01:39:40,057
You've got to release
in order for you
1778
01:39:40,099 --> 01:39:42,768
to be free
of what happened to you.
1779
01:39:42,852 --> 01:39:44,645
And he couldn't do that.
1780
01:39:46,314 --> 01:39:49,066
- Breathe outall of the separateness,
1781
01:39:49,108 --> 01:39:51,986
all of the feelingsof unworthiness,
1782
01:39:52,069 --> 01:39:54,906
all of the attachmentto your pain,
1783
01:39:54,947 --> 01:39:59,035
whether it's physicalor psychological.
1784
01:39:59,076 --> 01:40:02,955
Let the breath bethe transformation.
1785
01:40:15,092 --> 01:40:17,762
Testing one, two.
Testing one, two.
1786
01:40:17,803 --> 01:40:19,347
- I'm good, right?
- Yeah, we're great.
1787
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:20,598
You ready?
1788
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,726
Hi, this is Maurice White
in Los Angeles.
1789
01:40:23,768 --> 01:40:27,104
Hope you enjoy
my new--do it again.
1790
01:40:27,188 --> 01:40:29,607
Hi, this is Maurice White
in Los Angeles.
1791
01:40:29,649 --> 01:40:33,277
Hope you enjoy my first
solo effort, "Stand By Me."
1792
01:40:33,361 --> 01:40:38,115
♪ When the night has come ♪
1793
01:40:38,199 --> 01:40:41,202
♪ And the land is dark ♪
1794
01:40:41,285 --> 01:40:47,416
♪ And the moonis the only light we see ♪
1795
01:40:47,500 --> 01:40:49,377
- Maurice put a lotinto that record.
1796
01:40:49,460 --> 01:40:52,088
♪ No, I won't be afraid ♪
1797
01:40:52,171 --> 01:40:53,923
But it didn't work.
1798
01:40:54,006 --> 01:40:57,552
And I think the failure
really stung.
1799
01:41:00,096 --> 01:41:02,974
- Philip Baileyembarked on a solo career
1800
01:41:03,015 --> 01:41:06,310
without his former colleague.
1801
01:41:06,352 --> 01:41:09,397
It was time to do
something else
1802
01:41:09,480 --> 01:41:13,317
and get a chance
to find out who I was.
1803
01:41:13,359 --> 01:41:17,113
My solo career gave methat autonomy
1804
01:41:17,196 --> 01:41:19,657
to play withdifferent musicians.
1805
01:41:19,699 --> 01:41:22,910
I chose Phil Collins to work
with because the Phenix Horns
1806
01:41:22,994 --> 01:41:24,704
were working with him.
1807
01:41:26,289 --> 01:41:28,207
♪ Easy lover ♪
1808
01:41:28,291 --> 01:41:30,418
And I had aacross-the-board hit
1809
01:41:30,501 --> 01:41:33,713
with a song called"Easy Lover."
1810
01:41:33,796 --> 01:41:35,548
♪ Like no other ♪
1811
01:41:35,631 --> 01:41:38,009
♪ Before you know it,
you'll be on your knees ♪
1812
01:41:38,050 --> 01:41:42,513
"Easy Lover"
was a pop smash.
1813
01:41:42,597 --> 01:41:46,559
Nobody called me to wish me
success or happiness.
1814
01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:52,023
What did you think
of Philip, the solo artist?
1815
01:41:52,106 --> 01:41:53,983
- I thought he was very good.
- Yeah?
1816
01:41:54,066 --> 01:41:55,484
I expected him
to be successful.
1817
01:41:55,568 --> 01:41:57,194
He should have been
because he came out
1818
01:41:57,236 --> 01:41:58,195
of Earth, Wind & Fire school.
1819
01:41:58,279 --> 01:42:01,282
What did you think
of Maurice the solo artist?
1820
01:42:01,365 --> 01:42:04,702
I always saw Maurice
as being a solo artist.
1821
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:07,913
Well, there's
some truth there.
1822
01:42:15,087 --> 01:42:17,715
- Years later,following the success
1823
01:42:17,757 --> 01:42:23,262
of my solo career, the recordlabel came up to me and said,
1824
01:42:23,346 --> 01:42:24,930
y'all need to talkabout putting
1825
01:42:25,014 --> 01:42:27,600
Earth, Wind & Fire
back together.
1826
01:42:29,685 --> 01:42:35,274
I said, well, I'm not opposed
to speaking with Maurice.
1827
01:42:36,359 --> 01:42:42,114
We sat down many times
and talked and cry
1828
01:42:42,198 --> 01:42:45,743
and put it all out there,
you know.
1829
01:42:49,455 --> 01:42:52,958
I said that I would work
with him, not for him.
1830
01:42:55,503 --> 01:42:58,172
- Verdine and Mauricewere not speaking.
1831
01:42:58,255 --> 01:43:02,051
And I said to Shelly,
Verdine's wife,
1832
01:43:02,134 --> 01:43:04,845
this is ridiculous.They're brothers.
1833
01:43:04,929 --> 01:43:09,600
So Shelly and I had to bringthe two of them together.
1834
01:43:09,642 --> 01:43:11,602
- It was good.We had a chance to talk.
1835
01:43:11,686 --> 01:43:15,064
And he did say he never
should have done that,
1836
01:43:15,147 --> 01:43:17,024
that he should have
thought it through.
1837
01:43:17,108 --> 01:43:20,778
That was his personal regret.
1838
01:43:20,820 --> 01:43:22,113
I waited.
1839
01:43:22,196 --> 01:43:24,448
And sure enough,
the phone rang.
1840
01:43:24,490 --> 01:43:27,535
With all that had gone on,
1841
01:43:27,618 --> 01:43:31,706
you had to come back into thissituation with a clean slate.
1842
01:43:31,789 --> 01:43:34,875
And that's what we did.
1843
01:43:34,959 --> 01:43:39,338
After that, we were readyto put it back together.
1844
01:43:41,173 --> 01:43:43,259
- We triedto get all nine guys back.
1845
01:43:43,342 --> 01:43:45,136
We got five of them back,
five of the original guys.
1846
01:43:45,219 --> 01:43:47,555
♪ System of survival ♪
1847
01:43:47,638 --> 01:43:51,475
- You told me that part ofthe deal of coming back was,
1848
01:43:51,517 --> 01:43:54,103
Maurice was gonna start
sharing responsibility,
1849
01:43:54,186 --> 01:43:55,646
sharing authority.
1850
01:43:55,688 --> 01:43:57,189
- Has that happened?
- Sharing the money.
1851
01:44:01,527 --> 01:44:03,404
- The soul super groupannounced plans
1852
01:44:03,487 --> 01:44:05,531
to take it on the road.
1853
01:44:05,614 --> 01:44:08,451
- The 11-month tour that willtake Earth, Wind & Fire
1854
01:44:08,534 --> 01:44:11,495
to 80 cities cost over$1 million to produce.
1855
01:44:11,579 --> 01:44:13,664
- ♪ Says life is filledwith give and take ♪
1856
01:44:13,748 --> 01:44:15,624
- We went outon the road thinking,
1857
01:44:15,708 --> 01:44:17,501
this is gonna be
the second coming.
1858
01:44:17,543 --> 01:44:18,794
♪ System of survival ♪
1859
01:44:18,878 --> 01:44:21,338
- We're gonnaget right back to it.
1860
01:44:21,422 --> 01:44:22,882
♪ System of survival ♪
1861
01:44:22,965 --> 01:44:25,843
We had these arenas booked.
1862
01:44:25,926 --> 01:44:27,219
Here we go.
1863
01:44:28,637 --> 01:44:30,765
Then the band takes the stage.
1864
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,145
There would benobody out there.
1865
01:44:39,940 --> 01:44:41,275
Crickets.
1866
01:44:44,236 --> 01:44:46,697
- We foundthat people had moved on.
1867
01:44:49,408 --> 01:44:51,994
A lot of the houses,
we had to cancel.
1868
01:44:52,077 --> 01:44:53,454
We lost so much money.
1869
01:44:53,537 --> 01:44:57,750
We were in no-man's land.
1870
01:44:57,833 --> 01:45:02,129
We're clearly notplaying stadiums anymore.
1871
01:45:02,213 --> 01:45:04,381
So now we have to reconfigure.
1872
01:45:04,423 --> 01:45:06,801
We had to do small venues,
you know.
1873
01:45:13,182 --> 01:45:15,309
So now we're back
where we began.
1874
01:45:16,727 --> 01:45:20,231
- Stage productionhad to get smaller.
1875
01:45:20,272 --> 01:45:22,024
It took some adjusting.
1876
01:45:22,107 --> 01:45:23,734
We soldiered on.
1877
01:45:23,776 --> 01:45:27,530
We were able to lean on
each other and go to work.
1878
01:45:27,613 --> 01:45:32,868
And we startedto gain traction.
1879
01:45:32,952 --> 01:45:33,953
It was gradual.
1880
01:45:34,036 --> 01:45:35,079
It was a gradual thing.
1881
01:45:36,705 --> 01:45:40,167
We started doing arenasand stadiums again.
1882
01:45:42,795 --> 01:45:46,048
And then the music startedbeing played on commercials.
1883
01:45:49,426 --> 01:45:50,719
On television.
1884
01:45:53,597 --> 01:45:58,394
- ♪ Your dream willtake you very far, yeah ♪
1885
01:45:58,477 --> 01:45:59,520
And in films.
1886
01:45:59,603 --> 01:46:01,063
♪ You're a shining star ♪
1887
01:46:01,146 --> 01:46:03,983
♪ No matter who you are ♪
1888
01:46:04,066 --> 01:46:06,068
♪ Shining bright to see ♪
1889
01:46:06,151 --> 01:46:08,320
♪ What you could truly be ♪
1890
01:46:08,404 --> 01:46:10,489
♪ You're a shining star ♪
1891
01:46:10,573 --> 01:46:11,615
♪ No matter who you are ♪
1892
01:46:11,657 --> 01:46:14,034
And then a lot of hip-hop
will be sampled, right?
1893
01:46:14,118 --> 01:46:17,121
When I was in high school,
I heard "Shining Star"
1894
01:46:17,204 --> 01:46:18,372
with ODB on it.
1895
01:46:18,455 --> 01:46:19,623
- ♪ Shining Starfor you to see ♪
1896
01:46:19,665 --> 01:46:21,125
♪ Yeah, know whatI'm saying? ♪
1897
01:46:21,166 --> 01:46:22,376
♪ This is what you call ♪
1898
01:46:22,459 --> 01:46:23,627
♪ This was makinghistory right here ♪
1899
01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:25,337
♪ Know what I'm saying,the fifth element ♪
1900
01:46:25,421 --> 01:46:27,715
♪ Earth, Wind, Fire,Sunz of Man ♪
1901
01:46:27,798 --> 01:46:30,759
My dad was not
just inspirational
1902
01:46:30,843 --> 01:46:32,636
but recycled by these groups.
1903
01:46:32,678 --> 01:46:34,555
I think that was oneof the moments where
1904
01:46:34,638 --> 01:46:37,224
it sort of clicked how
much of an influence
1905
01:46:37,308 --> 01:46:38,309
he'd had on the world.
1906
01:46:40,895 --> 01:46:44,565
- They influenced a whole newgeneration of people.
1907
01:46:44,648 --> 01:46:48,277
Even with myself, the earliest
memories I have of music
1908
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,988
is listening to Earth, Wind& Fire on long road trips.
1909
01:46:51,071 --> 01:46:54,992
My dad taught me how to play
"Shining Star" on the bass
1910
01:46:55,034 --> 01:46:56,452
when I was eight years old.
1911
01:46:56,535 --> 01:46:59,830
And I feel like
it really kind of shaped me.
1912
01:46:59,872 --> 01:47:01,790
- The first concertthat I went to
1913
01:47:01,832 --> 01:47:04,209
was Earth, Wind & Fireat Caesars Palace
1914
01:47:04,293 --> 01:47:05,294
in Las Vegas.
1915
01:47:05,336 --> 01:47:10,507
It was a sound so big
and lush, I wanted to do it.
1916
01:47:10,591 --> 01:47:12,676
That victory lap in the '80s
1917
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,219
that we didn't get a chanceto do...
1918
01:47:17,264 --> 01:47:19,683
We took them in the '90s.
1919
01:47:19,767 --> 01:47:21,936
And we've been takingthem ever since.
1920
01:47:22,019 --> 01:47:25,856
And that's a testimonyto Reese's vision.
1921
01:47:25,940 --> 01:47:29,068
Reese, thank you
for taking the chances
1922
01:47:29,151 --> 01:47:30,694
that no one else will take.
1923
01:47:30,778 --> 01:47:33,364
And thank you
for being a visionary.
1924
01:47:33,447 --> 01:47:34,907
Thank you.
1925
01:47:34,990 --> 01:47:38,494
- Reese's vision to do musicthat helps humanity...
1926
01:47:38,577 --> 01:47:40,079
Reach a universal audience,
1927
01:47:40,162 --> 01:47:43,082
evolve consciousness,and change the world.
1928
01:47:46,961 --> 01:47:48,462
He made it happen.
1929
01:47:54,635 --> 01:47:57,179
The music lives, you know.
1930
01:47:57,262 --> 01:47:59,598
It's ageless, everlasting.
1931
01:48:02,893 --> 01:48:07,147
For Earth, Wind & Fire!
Yeah!
1932
01:48:07,231 --> 01:48:08,941
Is this a stage or what?
1933
01:48:10,484 --> 01:48:14,321
Give it up for Earth,
Wind & Fire, everybody!
1934
01:48:28,502 --> 01:48:30,921
- During thatwhole time period,
1935
01:48:31,005 --> 01:48:33,674
it was clear that Mauricewasn't as strong
1936
01:48:33,757 --> 01:48:35,259
as he was in the past.
1937
01:48:35,300 --> 01:48:40,014
And that was when I recognized
that, oh, wait a minute.
1938
01:48:40,097 --> 01:48:41,598
Something's going on.
1939
01:48:44,393 --> 01:48:47,604
I noticed that
he would always
1940
01:48:47,646 --> 01:48:50,899
put his hand under his thigh.
1941
01:48:52,484 --> 01:48:54,653
It's like, what?
1942
01:48:54,737 --> 01:48:57,281
And my thought is,
what's he hiding from me?
1943
01:48:57,322 --> 01:49:01,493
We found out that he has,
uh,
1944
01:49:01,577 --> 01:49:06,582
Parkinson's disease,
and there's no cure.
1945
01:49:26,185 --> 01:49:30,481
- In the '90s,I decided to stay home.
1946
01:49:30,522 --> 01:49:32,649
It's interesting, watching it.
1947
01:49:32,691 --> 01:49:35,319
It's almost like
something's missing.
1948
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:36,820
And it's me.
1949
01:49:38,739 --> 01:49:40,282
There was a peace,
1950
01:49:40,324 --> 01:49:41,992
an opportunity
for self-reflection,
1951
01:49:42,034 --> 01:49:45,037
that came during
that period of his life.
1952
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:46,830
Because he didn'thave a father,
1953
01:49:46,872 --> 01:49:50,334
he didn't want tocontinue this cycle.
1954
01:49:50,417 --> 01:49:52,544
I think that my pops felt like
1955
01:49:52,628 --> 01:49:54,463
he was gonnamake up for lost time,
1956
01:49:54,546 --> 01:49:57,007
almost in a redemption arc
kind of way,
1957
01:49:57,091 --> 01:50:02,137
to lend some greater part
of himself to being a father.
1958
01:50:03,972 --> 01:50:07,101
My dad and I got really
close when I was 21.
1959
01:50:07,184 --> 01:50:10,604
He, to the world, was thisvery like--he has to live
1960
01:50:10,687 --> 01:50:12,272
a healthy life kind of guy.
1961
01:50:12,356 --> 01:50:16,527
But Jack in the Box
spicy crispy chicken sandwich
1962
01:50:16,568 --> 01:50:20,614
on sourdough with
extra cheese, he loved that.
1963
01:50:20,697 --> 01:50:24,618
We would just do it together--
and Dr. Pepper.
1964
01:50:24,701 --> 01:50:28,205
The way we connectedwas over music.
1965
01:50:28,288 --> 01:50:30,791
Every Sunday, he would have me
1966
01:50:30,874 --> 01:50:32,876
play him stuff
that I was listening to.
1967
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,671
And that's how we did it,
literally
1968
01:50:35,754 --> 01:50:38,966
until the day he died.
1969
01:50:39,049 --> 01:50:43,554
♪ ♪
1970
01:50:43,595 --> 01:50:46,098
My brother called me.
He was like, Dad is gone.
1971
01:50:50,352 --> 01:50:51,728
That was tough.
1972
01:50:51,812 --> 01:50:54,273
That was really tough,
you know,
1973
01:50:54,356 --> 01:50:59,236
because we'd been with him
all our adult lives.
1974
01:50:59,278 --> 01:51:03,240
I met Maurice White
when I was 17 years old.
1975
01:51:03,323 --> 01:51:06,076
I was just a baby.
1976
01:51:06,118 --> 01:51:08,412
Maurice was much more
than a mentor to me.
1977
01:51:08,495 --> 01:51:10,372
He was a father.
1978
01:51:10,414 --> 01:51:12,749
- As for me, there isno question that, by far,
1979
01:51:12,791 --> 01:51:14,960
he has
been the single greatest
1980
01:51:15,043 --> 01:51:19,089
male influence in virtually
every aspect of my life,
1981
01:51:19,131 --> 01:51:21,592
across the board.
1982
01:51:21,633 --> 01:51:23,802
He wasn't perfect,
1983
01:51:23,886 --> 01:51:25,721
and I won't be ableto say that
1984
01:51:25,804 --> 01:51:28,265
he didn't do maybe
some dastardly stuff
1985
01:51:28,348 --> 01:51:31,435
sometimes because he's human.
1986
01:51:31,518 --> 01:51:33,228
But I've acceptedwhat happened.
1987
01:51:33,270 --> 01:51:35,939
He was my brother,and I'm gonna focus
1988
01:51:35,981 --> 01:51:38,108
on the good times
that I had with him.
1989
01:51:41,278 --> 01:51:43,822
You know, Maurice
is like those beings
1990
01:51:43,906 --> 01:51:45,908
from the pyramids.
1991
01:51:48,327 --> 01:51:52,456
They only come alongonce in a lifetime.
1992
01:51:56,793 --> 01:52:00,547
- My dad believedin metaphysics.
1993
01:52:01,798 --> 01:52:03,675
He told me, it's all energy.
1994
01:52:05,135 --> 01:52:08,138
There's more to lifethan this.
1995
01:52:08,180 --> 01:52:10,974
You are eternal.
1996
01:52:11,016 --> 01:52:12,935
He was like, you know,
I'm not gonna be here,
1997
01:52:13,018 --> 01:52:15,145
but I'm not gonna be gone.
1998
01:52:18,190 --> 01:52:22,069
Maurice--ooh,
I just got chills.
1999
01:52:22,152 --> 01:52:23,904
I feel you, baby.
2000
01:52:23,987 --> 01:52:30,244
He left us all of this
wonderful, wonderful music.
2001
01:52:30,327 --> 01:52:32,829
And if we miss him,all we have to do is
2002
01:52:32,913 --> 01:52:36,458
put on one of these records,and...
2003
01:52:36,541 --> 01:52:39,419
and we all know
that joy again.
2004
01:52:39,503 --> 01:52:42,756
- ♪ Ba-dee-ya, ee-ya, ee-ya ♪
2005
01:52:47,010 --> 01:52:48,512
When we went in,
2006
01:52:48,553 --> 01:52:50,931
we wanted to bringall of America
2007
01:52:51,014 --> 01:52:54,184
into the White House
in every event that we did
2008
01:52:54,226 --> 01:52:57,187
to really make itthe people's house.
2009
01:52:57,271 --> 01:53:00,148
The Governors Ball was one
of the first big events
2010
01:53:00,232 --> 01:53:01,358
that we hosted.
2011
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:04,152
And the question was,
how do we shake this up?
2012
01:53:04,236 --> 01:53:07,281
How do we take the first
big black-tie event
2013
01:53:07,364 --> 01:53:10,909
and turn it into usand make it our house?
2014
01:53:12,953 --> 01:53:16,039
Well, Earth, Wind & Fire.
2015
01:53:16,123 --> 01:53:19,876
So suddenly,
you have all these folks
2016
01:53:19,918 --> 01:53:22,170
- in formal wear and--
- Getting up.
2017
01:53:22,254 --> 01:53:23,630
Earth, Wind & Fire's
jamming,
2018
01:53:23,714 --> 01:53:25,299
and suddenly,
you're looking around,
2019
01:53:25,382 --> 01:53:26,967
and everybody's dancing.
2020
01:53:27,050 --> 01:53:28,218
Everybody's moving.
2021
01:53:28,302 --> 01:53:29,761
When "September" comes on,
you go dancing.
2022
01:53:33,932 --> 01:53:36,643
Hands go up,
fingers get to snapping,
2023
01:53:36,727 --> 01:53:37,853
you know what I'm saying?
2024
01:53:37,936 --> 01:53:38,895
Feet get to moving,
you know what I'm saying?
2025
01:53:38,979 --> 01:53:41,398
Hey, kick drum, come in.
2026
01:53:41,481 --> 01:53:42,441
Like uh-huh.
2027
01:53:45,819 --> 01:53:47,321
It's a celebratory song.
2028
01:53:47,404 --> 01:53:50,907
It's like everybody
knows that record.
2029
01:53:50,991 --> 01:53:52,242
When I was pregnant,
2030
01:53:52,326 --> 01:53:54,703
and I told Mauriceour son, Kahbran,
2031
01:53:54,786 --> 01:53:57,956
was due around
September 21st...
2032
01:54:00,876 --> 01:54:02,502
He said September 21st, huh?
2033
01:54:02,586 --> 01:54:05,088
I said, yeah, September 21st.
2034
01:54:05,130 --> 01:54:06,923
♪ Do you remember ♪
2035
01:54:06,965 --> 01:54:10,552
♪ The 21st night
of September? ♪
2036
01:54:10,635 --> 01:54:14,556
♪ Love was changingthe minds of pretenders ♪
2037
01:54:14,639 --> 01:54:17,642
♪ While chasing
the clouds away ♪
2038
01:54:17,726 --> 01:54:19,895
That song would resonate
2039
01:54:19,978 --> 01:54:23,482
with every single kindof audience.
2040
01:54:23,565 --> 01:54:25,776
It's jubilant. It's happy.
2041
01:54:25,817 --> 01:54:30,072
You feel goodcelebrating that spirit.
2042
01:54:30,155 --> 01:54:32,616
When he turned the
microphone to the audience,
2043
01:54:32,657 --> 01:54:34,326
they knew exactly
what to sing.
2044
01:54:34,409 --> 01:54:36,370
♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪
2045
01:54:36,453 --> 01:54:37,954
♪ Ba-dee-ya ♪
2046
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Tell me about
the genesis of ba-dee-ya.
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01:54:40,791 --> 01:54:43,627
The genesis of ba-dee-ya.
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01:54:43,668 --> 01:54:45,128
♪ Ba-dee-ya ♪
2049
01:54:45,170 --> 01:54:47,005
What does ba-dee-ya mean?
2050
01:54:47,089 --> 01:54:48,173
It's whatever
you want it to be.
2051
01:54:51,259 --> 01:54:55,806
♪ Ba-dee-ya, ba-dee-ya,
ba-dee-ya, ba-dee-ya ♪
2052
01:54:55,889 --> 01:54:59,184
♪ Ba-dee-ya, ba-dee-ya,
ba-dee-ya, ba-dee-ya ♪
2053
01:54:59,267 --> 01:55:04,314
♪ Ba-dee-ya,
ba-dee-ya, ba-dee-ya ♪
2054
01:55:04,398 --> 01:55:06,358
When I hear "September,"
I just think
2055
01:55:06,441 --> 01:55:10,737
people of all ages, allbackgrounds, dancing together.
2056
01:55:10,821 --> 01:55:13,782
It felt like family
and having barbecues
2057
01:55:13,865 --> 01:55:16,701
and seeing my familydo electric slide.
2058
01:55:16,785 --> 01:55:19,663
It's gatherings.
It's birthdays.
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01:55:19,746 --> 01:55:21,498
It's wedding receptions.
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01:55:21,540 --> 01:55:26,169
- ♪ Now December found thelove we shared in September ♪
2061
01:55:26,211 --> 01:55:28,839
That's what it's about.
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01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:30,173
Music is for everybody.
2063
01:55:30,257 --> 01:55:34,219
And very few bands
transcended those boundaries.
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01:55:34,302 --> 01:55:37,180
♪ Hey ♪
2065
01:55:37,264 --> 01:55:41,184
♪ Ba-dee-ya, say,
do you remember ♪
2066
01:55:41,268 --> 01:55:44,729
- Earth, Wind & Firehad that capacity
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to reimagine and reset limits.
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01:55:50,902 --> 01:55:52,779
♪ Was ringing, oh, oh ♪
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01:55:52,863 --> 01:55:54,781
- They just decided,you know what?
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01:55:54,865 --> 01:55:57,826
We're going up to the sky.
2071
01:55:57,909 --> 01:56:00,996
♪ Do you remember
never a cloudy day? ♪
2072
01:56:03,457 --> 01:56:07,711
♪ And we'll sayba-dee-ya dee-ya dee-ya ♪
2073
01:56:07,752 --> 01:56:11,381
♪ Ba-dee-ya, dee-ya, dee-ya ♪
2074
01:56:26,771 --> 01:56:33,737
♪ ♪
2075
01:56:44,956 --> 01:56:47,667
I have a day to live.
What am I gonna do?
2076
01:56:47,751 --> 01:56:49,586
I'm gonna write me a song.
2077
01:56:52,297 --> 01:56:53,381
Quick.
2078
01:56:58,678 --> 01:57:01,765
Hey, hey, hey.
2079
01:57:01,848 --> 01:57:03,350
Let me play now.
2080
01:57:03,433 --> 01:57:05,602
- ♪ In his heartthere's a space ♪
2081
01:57:05,644 --> 01:57:10,690
♪ And the world can't erasehis fantasies ♪
2082
01:57:10,774 --> 01:57:12,734
♪ Take a ride in the sky... ♪
2083
01:57:12,817 --> 01:57:14,986
Okay, don't say anything
2084
01:57:15,070 --> 01:57:17,614
for about three minutes.
2085
01:57:17,656 --> 01:57:19,783
Awesome.
2086
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,044
Hey, he's pulling my finger.
2087
01:57:31,127 --> 01:57:32,921
Look at the lens.
Look at the lens.
2088
01:57:33,004 --> 01:57:37,842
- ♪ Our voices will ringforever ♪
2089
01:57:37,926 --> 01:57:43,682
♪ As one ♪
2090
01:57:43,765 --> 01:57:50,730
♪ ♪
2091
01:57:54,192 --> 01:57:56,736
♪ Every thought is a dream ♪
2092
01:57:56,820 --> 01:57:59,322
♪ Rushing by in a stream ♪
2093
01:57:59,406 --> 01:58:04,911
♪ Bringing lifeto the kingdom of doing ♪
2094
01:58:04,995 --> 01:58:07,664
♪ Take a ride in the sky ♪
2095
01:58:07,706 --> 01:58:10,208
♪ On our ship, fantasize ♪
2096
01:58:10,292 --> 01:58:15,589
♪ All your dreams willcome true miles away ♪
2097
01:58:15,672 --> 01:58:21,094
♪ Our voiceswill ring together ♪
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01:58:21,177 --> 01:58:26,391
♪ Until the 12th of never ♪
2099
01:58:26,474 --> 01:58:31,855
♪ We all will live,love forever ♪
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01:58:31,938 --> 01:58:37,902
♪ As one ♪
2101
01:58:37,986 --> 01:58:40,697
♪ Come to see victory ♪
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01:58:40,780 --> 01:58:43,116
♪ In a land called fantasy ♪
2103
01:58:43,199 --> 01:58:45,577
♪ Loving life, a new degree ♪
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01:58:45,660 --> 01:58:51,750
♪ Bring your mindto everlasting liberty ♪
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♪ ♪
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