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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,262 --> 00:00:07,764 Previously on Criminal Minds: Evolution... 2 00:00:08,058 --> 00:00:09,066 Sophisticated. 3 00:00:09,077 --> 00:00:11,144 You see that? Another Haeberlin. 4 00:00:11,145 --> 00:00:13,181 We thought these cases were connected. 5 00:00:13,281 --> 00:00:15,316 Now we have our smoking gun. 6 00:00:15,416 --> 00:00:17,985 The unsub gathered followers that he's now activating. 7 00:00:18,119 --> 00:00:22,021 This is a network. Whatever city Sicarius finds himself, 8 00:00:22,022 --> 00:00:24,358 Second Street is his preferred hunting ground. 9 00:00:24,458 --> 00:00:26,326 Did you come here to kill me? 10 00:00:26,327 --> 00:00:27,628 I already killed you an hour ago. 11 00:00:27,728 --> 00:00:31,164 I just came here to watch an old man die. 12 00:00:31,165 --> 00:00:32,366 I always knew it. 13 00:00:32,466 --> 00:00:34,802 Family's what gets you killed. 14 00:00:34,902 --> 00:00:37,371 Our vice is in our blood. 15 00:00:37,505 --> 00:00:39,640 - You are? - You know who I am. 16 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:41,075 You killed my sister. 17 00:00:41,175 --> 00:00:42,343 Alison. 18 00:00:42,443 --> 00:00:45,011 Your subconscious is fighting urges to kill, 19 00:00:45,012 --> 00:00:47,515 which is why I'm distracting you. 20 00:00:47,615 --> 00:00:49,917 You talking to me is how you cope. 21 00:00:50,017 --> 00:00:53,853 You think, if I walk you through everything, 22 00:00:53,854 --> 00:00:55,723 you'll be able to stop someone else? 23 00:00:55,823 --> 00:00:57,858 You're a living resource, Elias. 24 00:00:57,958 --> 00:00:59,360 For the sake of others, 25 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:01,762 I can't just let you sit in here and not tell your story. 26 00:01:01,862 --> 00:01:04,030 The families of some of your victims have reached out, 27 00:01:04,031 --> 00:01:06,066 and they want to meet you. 28 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,701 It was part of your training. 29 00:01:07,801 --> 00:01:09,370 - What? - Your training. 30 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:12,740 - By this government agency. - Where did you hear that? 31 00:01:12,873 --> 00:01:14,242 It's in the podcast. 32 00:01:14,342 --> 00:01:16,377 Welcome to The Sicarius Files. 33 00:01:16,823 --> 00:01:18,458 May I call you Elias? 34 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,827 Oh. 35 00:01:21,304 --> 00:01:24,073 Look at me, Brian. It's sad how pathetic I am, 36 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:25,219 but you know what's even more pathetic? 37 00:01:25,408 --> 00:01:27,076 Someone who makes a show about it 38 00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:29,723 and anyone who listens to it. 39 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:42,035 So true. 40 00:01:44,687 --> 00:01:47,408 Mmm. This carbonara is to die for. 41 00:01:47,418 --> 00:01:49,282 I know, right? 42 00:01:49,293 --> 00:01:50,389 Where's this place again? 43 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,901 It just opened up on Second Street, 44 00:01:51,912 --> 00:01:53,636 around the corner from my office. 45 00:01:53,647 --> 00:01:55,017 Mama, look! 46 00:01:56,273 --> 00:01:57,674 It's for Auntie Ryleigh. 47 00:01:57,774 --> 00:02:00,543 Oh! Thank you, sweetie. 48 00:02:00,554 --> 00:02:01,921 It's almost time for bed now. 49 00:02:01,922 --> 00:02:03,257 Do you need help brushing your teeth? 50 00:02:03,357 --> 00:02:05,926 - No. - Okay. 51 00:02:10,764 --> 00:02:13,467 She gets it from her mama. 52 00:02:13,895 --> 00:02:15,897 I hate to break it to you, big sis, but 53 00:02:15,908 --> 00:02:18,639 everybody thinks they got good taste and a sense of humor, 54 00:02:18,772 --> 00:02:22,142 but they couldn't possibly all have good taste. 55 00:02:22,365 --> 00:02:25,635 Very funny. I know that movie, too. 56 00:02:25,646 --> 00:02:27,280 Is that why you haven't uttered one word 57 00:02:27,281 --> 00:02:28,949 about what I've done to the kitchen? 58 00:02:29,799 --> 00:02:31,118 The new backsplash? 59 00:02:32,105 --> 00:02:33,227 Kali. 60 00:02:33,238 --> 00:02:35,312 - What? - Those colors. 61 00:02:35,323 --> 00:02:36,457 What were you thinking? 62 00:02:36,468 --> 00:02:38,369 Those colors announce themselves. 63 00:02:38,548 --> 00:02:41,384 Yeah, they scream, "I got bad taste." 64 00:02:41,395 --> 00:02:43,531 Oh. 65 00:02:44,201 --> 00:02:46,200 Is everything okay? 66 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:47,801 It's just my mom. She fell. 67 00:02:48,147 --> 00:02:50,215 Again. 68 00:02:50,226 --> 00:02:51,828 Was your dad home? 69 00:02:51,839 --> 00:02:54,342 No, but the neighbor was able to get her to the hospital. 70 00:02:54,475 --> 00:02:57,144 I know. You need to be there. 71 00:02:57,155 --> 00:02:58,556 I'm sorry, babe. 72 00:02:58,746 --> 00:03:00,648 No, I'm sorry. It's getting out of hand. I don't... 73 00:03:00,781 --> 00:03:02,483 There's nothing to be sorry about. 74 00:03:02,494 --> 00:03:03,662 I'll call you as soon as I can, okay? 75 00:03:03,851 --> 00:03:05,519 - Mm. - Okay. 76 00:03:09,930 --> 00:03:12,933 - I love you. - I love you more. 77 00:03:18,951 --> 00:03:19,988 Look. 78 00:03:19,999 --> 00:03:21,404 If there's anything you or Avery need 79 00:03:21,415 --> 00:03:22,716 while he's gone, 80 00:03:22,727 --> 00:03:25,096 do not hesitate to reach out to me or Jesse. 81 00:03:26,089 --> 00:03:27,376 I appreciate that. 82 00:03:27,982 --> 00:03:29,499 Especially... 83 00:03:29,858 --> 00:03:32,178 if you want Jesse to replace that backsplash. 84 00:03:32,179 --> 00:03:35,048 Girl. 85 00:04:18,086 --> 00:04:20,059 _ 86 00:04:27,491 --> 00:04:29,292 - Ms. Wilson? - Yes. 87 00:04:29,303 --> 00:04:31,138 Emory Joy. D.A. Durham County. 88 00:04:31,416 --> 00:04:33,819 Can't tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time. 89 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:35,064 Oh, not a problem. 90 00:04:35,164 --> 00:04:36,551 And you're not the first jurisdiction 91 00:04:36,562 --> 00:04:37,763 to make the request. 92 00:04:37,774 --> 00:04:39,243 Uh, you get my email with the case file? 93 00:04:39,547 --> 00:04:42,215 Yes, um, Kaliyah Burke and her daughter Avery 94 00:04:42,316 --> 00:04:44,418 - reported missing. - Four years ago. Presumed dead. 95 00:04:44,791 --> 00:04:47,526 Back when most of this area was under water, 96 00:04:47,537 --> 00:04:50,424 and nobody would've ever anticipated a drought. 97 00:04:51,301 --> 00:04:53,281 - That's her car? - It is. 98 00:04:53,292 --> 00:04:56,626 And her four-year-old daughter Avery was stuffed in the trunk. 99 00:05:01,027 --> 00:05:02,396 You all right? 100 00:05:03,713 --> 00:05:05,606 Did you find Kaliyah Burke's body? 101 00:05:05,617 --> 00:05:06,985 No. 102 00:05:07,007 --> 00:05:10,777 This is all so... heartbreaking, um, but... 103 00:05:11,404 --> 00:05:12,935 I'm sorry, D.A. Joy, what makes you think 104 00:05:12,946 --> 00:05:14,615 this has anything to do with the Sicarius killer? 105 00:05:14,715 --> 00:05:17,150 We conducted a search of the immediate area 106 00:05:17,284 --> 00:05:18,786 and uncovered this. 107 00:05:20,388 --> 00:05:23,557 - A Haeberlin case. - An empty kill kit? 108 00:05:23,657 --> 00:05:26,727 Same as the ones used by the Sicarius killer, am I right? 109 00:05:27,318 --> 00:05:30,453 Yes, but you know as well as I do 110 00:05:30,464 --> 00:05:33,967 Elias Voit confessed to the murders of 63 people. 111 00:05:34,935 --> 00:05:37,671 Kaliyah Burke and her daughter were not among them. 112 00:05:37,805 --> 00:05:39,472 So why keep that to himself? 113 00:05:39,473 --> 00:05:41,274 I don't know. 114 00:05:41,608 --> 00:05:43,128 That's what we need to ask him. 115 00:05:54,559 --> 00:05:55,693 Luke, 116 00:05:55,704 --> 00:05:57,887 - you are a lifesaver. - I'm just glad 117 00:05:57,898 --> 00:05:59,492 I didn't have to rescue you from that 118 00:05:59,493 --> 00:06:02,162 river of water that was coming from your busted pipe. 119 00:06:02,252 --> 00:06:03,820 Three. Three inspections, 120 00:06:03,831 --> 00:06:05,665 and nobody notices that it's about to burst? 121 00:06:05,666 --> 00:06:09,537 Everything hangs on just until escrow closes. 122 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:12,873 Yup. And, uh, between the move 123 00:06:13,006 --> 00:06:15,308 and Henry applying to colleges, 124 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:16,810 I don't know how many more disruptions 125 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:18,178 he and Michael can take. 126 00:06:18,311 --> 00:06:21,915 I don't think I've seen them smile in weeks. 127 00:06:22,750 --> 00:06:24,551 How long are you out for? 128 00:06:24,552 --> 00:06:26,554 Uh, contractor said two, 129 00:06:26,654 --> 00:06:28,221 maybe three weeks. 130 00:06:28,355 --> 00:06:29,856 Ha. 131 00:06:29,857 --> 00:06:32,059 Oh. I don't think... 132 00:06:32,192 --> 00:06:35,696 the boys and I can impose on Penelope that long. 133 00:06:36,298 --> 00:06:37,699 Oh, my gosh. Hello. 134 00:06:37,710 --> 00:06:39,021 Hello, hello. 135 00:06:39,032 --> 00:06:41,831 Ah, you are here, JJ, and you are here, Luke, 136 00:06:41,842 --> 00:06:43,033 earlier than I thought you'd be here. 137 00:06:43,044 --> 00:06:44,345 Oh, that's my bad. 138 00:06:44,356 --> 00:06:45,892 I just... I-I just thought 139 00:06:45,965 --> 00:06:49,135 that I should get settled sooner rather than later. 140 00:06:49,425 --> 00:06:51,260 That makes so much sense. 141 00:06:51,271 --> 00:06:52,912 This is most awkward. The thing is... 142 00:06:52,913 --> 00:06:54,882 No. You know what? Uh, I'm the one that said 10:00, 143 00:06:54,982 --> 00:06:58,285 - and I just, blah. - Penelope, do you have a guest? 144 00:07:02,322 --> 00:07:04,224 - I had a great time. - Yeah, me too. 145 00:07:04,357 --> 00:07:06,860 I'll, um... I'll call you later? 146 00:07:06,871 --> 00:07:09,212 Uh-huh. Yeah. Great. Bye. 147 00:07:09,631 --> 00:07:11,733 - Nice. - Now. 148 00:07:13,767 --> 00:07:15,969 Huh. 149 00:07:17,706 --> 00:07:19,849 Okay, look, I know I'm the one that barged in on you, 150 00:07:19,860 --> 00:07:21,941 but, uh, I'm a little disappointed 151 00:07:21,952 --> 00:07:23,419 you didn't tell me you had a new boyfriend. 152 00:07:23,655 --> 00:07:25,157 Oh, he's not my boyfriend. 153 00:07:25,168 --> 00:07:27,904 No. No, that's, uh, Mr. Wednesday? 154 00:07:27,915 --> 00:07:29,082 - Yeah. - Mr. Wednesday, 155 00:07:29,182 --> 00:07:31,318 as in there's other days of the week? 156 00:07:31,418 --> 00:07:32,753 Oh, no. 157 00:07:32,764 --> 00:07:34,332 Saturday, and that's it. 158 00:07:35,171 --> 00:07:36,669 Oh. 159 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,548 Wait, and you... you knew about this? 160 00:07:38,649 --> 00:07:41,518 No, I didn't know he was gonna merge into Thursday. I... 161 00:07:41,529 --> 00:07:43,462 How was any of us to know that, really? 162 00:07:43,641 --> 00:07:45,777 No, JJ, I wasn't trying to keep a secret from you. 163 00:07:45,877 --> 00:07:47,445 And I know it's been over a year, but it just didn't 164 00:07:47,456 --> 00:07:50,026 seem appropriate for me to be, you know, 165 00:07:50,493 --> 00:07:52,729 spewing about my salacious 166 00:07:53,086 --> 00:07:55,588 paramour encounters to a... 167 00:07:55,784 --> 00:07:57,953 Ah. A widow. 168 00:07:58,719 --> 00:08:00,202 No. I-I get that. 169 00:08:00,213 --> 00:08:02,505 But, hey, starting right now, 170 00:08:02,846 --> 00:08:05,041 I am gonna be giving you the deep cuts 171 00:08:05,052 --> 00:08:06,452 about my romantic encounters. 172 00:08:06,542 --> 00:08:09,478 'Cause we are roommates. So, strap in, get ready. 173 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:11,625 I'm a little scared, but, uh... 174 00:08:11,725 --> 00:08:15,128 uh, honestly, though, thank you for letting us stay. 175 00:08:15,340 --> 00:08:18,076 It is my honor and my pleasure to host you all. 176 00:08:18,166 --> 00:08:19,868 I have... The boys' guest room 177 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:22,380 is ready, and my gigantic bed, 178 00:08:22,391 --> 00:08:25,258 which is perfect for platonic overnights, too. 179 00:08:25,269 --> 00:08:27,474 - I'm gonna change the sheets. - Well, are you sure? 180 00:08:27,485 --> 00:08:29,719 'Cause I did bring my sleeping bag out of retirement. 181 00:08:29,922 --> 00:08:32,390 Oh, no. You can save that for the weekend camping trip 182 00:08:32,401 --> 00:08:33,803 you're gonna have with your kids. 183 00:08:33,814 --> 00:08:37,317 Oh, uh, well, you know, given the circumstances, 184 00:08:37,873 --> 00:08:39,931 that has been put on hold indefinitely. 185 00:08:40,115 --> 00:08:41,683 - Oh. - I'm gonna... 186 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,582 Yeah. 187 00:08:47,149 --> 00:08:49,919 - Hey. - What are you thinking? 188 00:08:50,142 --> 00:08:52,744 That the Jareau family needs a pick-me-up. 189 00:08:52,755 --> 00:08:55,124 And I have an idea if you're with me. 190 00:08:55,742 --> 00:08:57,277 Yeah. 191 00:08:57,288 --> 00:08:59,124 Attaboy. 192 00:09:01,488 --> 00:09:02,820 After your Uncle Cyrus 193 00:09:02,831 --> 00:09:04,700 was granted legal custody, 194 00:09:05,398 --> 00:09:06,698 after your parents passed away... 195 00:09:06,709 --> 00:09:08,178 You mean after I killed them? 196 00:09:08,849 --> 00:09:11,418 After you killed them. 197 00:09:11,518 --> 00:09:12,886 How long was it before Cyrus 198 00:09:12,986 --> 00:09:14,955 starting taking you along with him? 199 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:19,893 Help me! 200 00:09:25,954 --> 00:09:27,856 Not long. Maybe a month. 201 00:09:29,026 --> 00:09:30,392 Didn't take him long to break me, 202 00:09:30,403 --> 00:09:32,571 and then I was his son. 203 00:09:33,055 --> 00:09:34,530 His servant. 204 00:09:34,541 --> 00:09:36,065 Did he use you to lure his victims? 205 00:09:36,568 --> 00:09:37,711 No, at first, he just wanted me 206 00:09:37,722 --> 00:09:39,568 to help him get rid of the bodies. 207 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:41,152 You know where we are? 208 00:09:41,163 --> 00:09:42,331 No. 209 00:09:43,105 --> 00:09:44,884 What'd you see on our way out here? 210 00:09:46,309 --> 00:09:47,503 Nothing. 211 00:09:47,514 --> 00:09:48,882 Exactly. 212 00:09:49,282 --> 00:09:52,118 No road signs, no mile markers. 213 00:09:54,185 --> 00:09:56,053 That's why I picked this place. 214 00:09:58,608 --> 00:10:00,245 - Were they all in Durham County? - Yeah. 215 00:10:00,256 --> 00:10:02,892 He thought the sheriffs there were lazy and stupid. 216 00:10:03,706 --> 00:10:05,261 Do you remember how many victims? 217 00:10:05,272 --> 00:10:07,073 Fifteen. 218 00:10:07,911 --> 00:10:09,740 Maybe 20. 219 00:10:09,751 --> 00:10:12,244 - All buried? - Mostly. I mean, we put 220 00:10:12,334 --> 00:10:14,270 some in the river, 221 00:10:14,962 --> 00:10:17,264 a couple in the lake. 222 00:10:17,687 --> 00:10:20,590 Would you be able to help us locate the remains? 223 00:10:22,555 --> 00:10:24,123 Well, between the lye and the elements, 224 00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:27,194 Cyrus made pretty sure that they'd never be found. 225 00:10:29,942 --> 00:10:31,398 If you don't mind me asking... 226 00:10:31,409 --> 00:10:32,944 since a lot of this stuff is already part 227 00:10:32,955 --> 00:10:35,124 of the court record... why conduct these interviews? 228 00:10:35,346 --> 00:10:38,149 - You sound a little frustrated. - It's not a waste of time? 229 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,962 I mean... 230 00:10:40,212 --> 00:10:43,182 it's pretty much our whole raison d'être. 231 00:10:43,193 --> 00:10:46,563 Right? Analyzing behavior. 232 00:10:46,994 --> 00:10:48,159 - Right. - Yeah. 233 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:50,539 - And we have his profile. - We do. 234 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:52,085 We have his profile, but we do not know 235 00:10:52,185 --> 00:10:53,453 how that profile evolved. 236 00:10:53,676 --> 00:10:55,611 That's why we sat down with DeSalvo 237 00:10:55,622 --> 00:10:56,957 and Kemper and Bundy. 238 00:10:57,090 --> 00:10:58,625 And that's why we're sitting down with Voit, 239 00:10:58,815 --> 00:11:01,884 so that we can learn how Lee Duval became Elias Voit 240 00:11:02,943 --> 00:11:04,225 became Sicarius. 241 00:11:04,236 --> 00:11:05,443 All right. 242 00:11:05,454 --> 00:11:07,857 So, do you think it's possible that one day we might be able 243 00:11:07,868 --> 00:11:10,738 to discern some hidden pattern shared by all serial killers? 244 00:11:10,838 --> 00:11:12,504 Aye, there's the rub. 245 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:15,275 While it's my hope to discover one day 246 00:11:15,375 --> 00:11:18,645 the, uh, unified field theory of psychos, 247 00:11:18,779 --> 00:11:20,748 it might be a false hope. 248 00:11:21,381 --> 00:11:24,573 There are always the ones that stand out. 249 00:11:24,584 --> 00:11:28,154 Like Voit. Maybe they are unique. 250 00:11:28,722 --> 00:11:32,559 Their own sick snowflakes. 251 00:11:43,070 --> 00:11:45,172 Shouldn't we borrow one from yours? 252 00:11:45,272 --> 00:11:46,673 Okay, good. 253 00:11:46,774 --> 00:11:48,675 Unit Chief Prentiss, I'd like to introduce you 254 00:11:48,776 --> 00:11:51,043 to Durham County District Attorney Emory Joy. 255 00:11:51,471 --> 00:11:53,692 - It's nice to meet you. - Same. 256 00:11:53,703 --> 00:11:56,973 I have reviewed the NCBI report. 257 00:11:57,443 --> 00:11:59,842 Have the forensics come back yet on the Haeberlin case? 258 00:12:00,106 --> 00:12:01,640 Our lab is still processing. 259 00:12:01,791 --> 00:12:04,046 Was any additional DNA recovered from Kaliyah's car 260 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:06,394 - or Avery's body? - No. 261 00:12:06,405 --> 00:12:07,840 So, you have no physical evidence 262 00:12:08,327 --> 00:12:10,028 that ties Elias Voit to this case? 263 00:12:10,747 --> 00:12:14,034 I have evidence that begs questions that only Voit can answer. 264 00:12:14,346 --> 00:12:15,647 I think, together, 265 00:12:15,658 --> 00:12:17,493 we may be able to get a confession out of him. 266 00:12:17,504 --> 00:12:20,240 But if Voit really did murder this mother and daughter, 267 00:12:20,808 --> 00:12:22,977 why hasn't he told us already? 268 00:12:23,207 --> 00:12:26,848 I mean, what is it about this crime that would make him refuse 269 00:12:26,859 --> 00:12:28,126 to take responsibility? 270 00:12:28,137 --> 00:12:29,972 Well, if I'm being generous of spirit 271 00:12:29,983 --> 00:12:33,286 about this so-called reformed Voit 272 00:12:33,386 --> 00:12:35,221 that I keep hearing about, 273 00:12:35,222 --> 00:12:37,490 probably because of the shame he now feels 274 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:38,892 for taking the life of a child. 275 00:12:39,503 --> 00:12:41,039 Children don't fit his victimology. 276 00:12:41,236 --> 00:12:42,937 True, but regardless, 277 00:12:42,948 --> 00:12:45,021 based on my professional experience, 278 00:12:45,032 --> 00:12:46,900 I'd say Voit is trying to ensure 279 00:12:47,034 --> 00:12:50,403 that he's always one step ahead of the death penalty. 280 00:12:51,333 --> 00:12:53,297 He was formally sentenced to life. 281 00:12:53,307 --> 00:12:54,390 He was. 282 00:12:54,401 --> 00:12:57,576 But I speak for the state of North Carolina, 283 00:12:57,577 --> 00:12:59,112 who'd like Voit himself to pay 284 00:12:59,212 --> 00:13:00,680 the ultimate price for his crimes. 285 00:13:01,135 --> 00:13:03,906 So, you think, by withholding the precise number 286 00:13:03,917 --> 00:13:05,352 of his body count, 287 00:13:05,452 --> 00:13:07,253 - Voit keeps an ace in the hole. - It's sure hard 288 00:13:07,254 --> 00:13:10,723 to put him to death if it means we might be overlooking 289 00:13:10,824 --> 00:13:13,093 even one missing victim. 290 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:17,931 That compromise is hard for families to accept, 291 00:13:18,425 --> 00:13:21,093 and it's tough to find the words to tell them. 292 00:13:34,349 --> 00:13:35,905 Wait a minute. 293 00:13:36,018 --> 00:13:38,252 You're analyzing this cell. 294 00:13:38,263 --> 00:13:40,098 Every guard, every door, 295 00:13:40,109 --> 00:13:41,243 every vulnerability. 296 00:13:44,046 --> 00:13:46,515 - I'm never gonna get it. - Oh, don't say that. 297 00:13:46,615 --> 00:13:48,417 Everybody's got to start somewhere, okay? 298 00:13:48,517 --> 00:13:50,052 Just got to practice. 299 00:13:50,142 --> 00:13:52,210 Just clear your mind. 300 00:13:53,778 --> 00:13:55,013 Yeah! 301 00:13:55,024 --> 00:13:56,558 Hey, thattagirl. 302 00:13:58,349 --> 00:13:59,883 You're planning 303 00:13:59,894 --> 00:14:01,729 on your chance 304 00:14:01,740 --> 00:14:03,221 to escape. 305 00:14:35,853 --> 00:14:37,855 Lots of fan mail today. 306 00:14:46,708 --> 00:14:48,077 Eleven seconds. 307 00:14:48,211 --> 00:14:51,013 Every damn time. 308 00:14:51,292 --> 00:14:54,128 That is a model of consistency. 309 00:14:54,139 --> 00:14:55,873 Prison guards are paycheck players. 310 00:14:55,884 --> 00:14:57,786 Every day they check in, check out. 311 00:14:57,797 --> 00:14:59,365 They get trapped in their own routine. 312 00:14:59,700 --> 00:15:02,102 Oh, maybe you put a few of them out of their misery 313 00:15:02,113 --> 00:15:04,649 when you get the hell out of here. 314 00:15:04,660 --> 00:15:06,996 I'm not going anywhere. 315 00:15:07,007 --> 00:15:08,441 Not yet. 316 00:15:08,664 --> 00:15:10,032 Where would I go? 317 00:15:10,318 --> 00:15:11,519 First things first. 318 00:15:12,059 --> 00:15:16,230 I told you, this is where I belong. 319 00:15:22,289 --> 00:15:24,680 Another family member wants to come talk to me. 320 00:15:24,691 --> 00:15:25,858 Of course. 321 00:15:26,679 --> 00:15:29,048 They all say they want closure. 322 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:32,827 They want to make sense of a senseless act. 323 00:15:33,012 --> 00:15:35,024 Your kid dies drowning, 324 00:15:35,035 --> 00:15:36,403 you can't ask the water, 325 00:15:36,681 --> 00:15:38,349 "What the hell were you thinking?" 326 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,762 No, it's not about closure, it's about guilt and suffering. 327 00:15:40,862 --> 00:15:42,664 It's about penance. It's the same reason why 328 00:15:42,991 --> 00:15:44,947 I'm putting myself through this. 329 00:15:44,958 --> 00:15:46,880 Don't flatter yourself. 330 00:15:46,891 --> 00:15:49,916 For you, it's about reminiscence. 331 00:16:04,055 --> 00:16:07,091 Your presence is being requested. 332 00:16:13,655 --> 00:16:15,820 I understand why D.A. Joy is here, 333 00:16:15,831 --> 00:16:17,466 but he's gonna be disappointed. 334 00:16:17,739 --> 00:16:20,169 I agree. Voit's told us everything. 335 00:16:20,447 --> 00:16:21,715 I mean, I've been talking to the guy for weeks. 336 00:16:21,726 --> 00:16:23,328 He's been an open book. 337 00:16:23,339 --> 00:16:24,873 But what about the Haeberlin case? 338 00:16:24,884 --> 00:16:26,453 We never could independently verify how many 339 00:16:26,553 --> 00:16:28,120 Voit buried for himself. 340 00:16:28,121 --> 00:16:31,024 And he was very deliberate about who gave a kill kit to. 341 00:16:31,124 --> 00:16:33,693 Elias, this is the district attorney of Durham County. 342 00:16:33,882 --> 00:16:35,184 Joy. 343 00:16:35,195 --> 00:16:36,596 Emory Joy. 344 00:16:36,896 --> 00:16:38,365 You do your homework. 345 00:16:38,809 --> 00:16:40,966 No, it's your face. 346 00:16:41,404 --> 00:16:43,992 - It's familiar. I saw it when you were a deputy. - Is that right? 347 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:45,538 Back when you and your uncle were out 348 00:16:45,849 --> 00:16:47,685 - burying bodies? - Yes, that's right. 349 00:16:47,696 --> 00:16:49,631 It sounds to me like D.A. Joy has a bit of a history 350 00:16:49,642 --> 00:16:51,211 with the Sicarius saga. 351 00:16:51,434 --> 00:16:54,103 So, Voit knows this is personal. 352 00:16:54,327 --> 00:16:56,061 You think Voit knows the difference between 353 00:16:56,285 --> 00:16:58,713 state and federal jurisdiction? 354 00:16:58,724 --> 00:17:00,698 You mean, does he realize that he's about to open himself up 355 00:17:00,709 --> 00:17:02,411 to a capital crime in North Carolina 356 00:17:02,548 --> 00:17:03,960 where they want him killed? 357 00:17:03,971 --> 00:17:05,390 Of course he does. 358 00:17:05,401 --> 00:17:07,283 What is it you think I've done? 359 00:17:07,294 --> 00:17:08,795 Kaliyah Burke. 360 00:17:09,178 --> 00:17:11,279 Wife, mother. 361 00:17:11,544 --> 00:17:12,954 Worked as a stock analyst 362 00:17:13,177 --> 00:17:14,579 in Friars Town. 363 00:17:14,590 --> 00:17:17,193 Her office was located downtown on Second Street. 364 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:19,041 You'd know it. 365 00:17:21,265 --> 00:17:22,727 You think he's fucking with Joy? 366 00:17:22,738 --> 00:17:24,367 He's fucking with all of us. 367 00:17:24,378 --> 00:17:26,635 - The question is why. - On November 368 00:17:26,646 --> 00:17:28,681 5, 2022, an intruder 369 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,228 was able to make entry into Kaliyah's home 370 00:17:30,239 --> 00:17:33,509 by remotely deactivating her alarm system. 371 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,288 A struggle ensued. 372 00:17:35,892 --> 00:17:37,513 After that, all we know is that Kaliyah 373 00:17:37,603 --> 00:17:40,938 and her daughter Avery were abducted in her own car. 374 00:17:40,949 --> 00:17:42,784 It took 24 hours before anyone knew 375 00:17:42,884 --> 00:17:44,620 they were gone. For four years, 376 00:17:44,631 --> 00:17:47,033 we were running in circles. We had nothing. 377 00:17:47,044 --> 00:17:49,779 Until yesterday, when Kaliyah's car was found in Yasper Creek. 378 00:17:50,627 --> 00:17:52,476 Wha... S... You sure about that? 379 00:17:52,487 --> 00:17:54,863 'Cause Yasper is basically marshland. 380 00:17:55,052 --> 00:17:57,388 Well, not anymore, Elias. 381 00:17:57,399 --> 00:17:58,989 Inside the trunk 382 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,502 was the body of Avery Burke, 383 00:18:00,724 --> 00:18:03,594 still wearing the pajamas from the night she was taken. 384 00:18:03,694 --> 00:18:05,596 The coroner said her neck was broken. 385 00:18:05,785 --> 00:18:08,455 And 50 yards away, deputies found 386 00:18:08,466 --> 00:18:10,635 an empty Haeberlin case. 387 00:18:10,824 --> 00:18:12,992 You didn't need Avery, so... 388 00:18:13,003 --> 00:18:14,639 you put her out of her misery quick. 389 00:18:14,650 --> 00:18:18,019 But Kaliyah, I'm... You took some time, I bet. 390 00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:19,834 And you did God knows what to her. 391 00:18:20,321 --> 00:18:22,290 Wow. 392 00:18:22,525 --> 00:18:26,228 You missed an essential part of my M.O., D.A. 393 00:18:26,708 --> 00:18:29,210 No body, no crime. 394 00:18:29,221 --> 00:18:31,170 That's why I left all my victims 395 00:18:31,181 --> 00:18:33,616 - in buried shipping containers. - One of which 396 00:18:33,627 --> 00:18:35,796 had been found in Yakima, Washington, early in 2022. 397 00:18:37,027 --> 00:18:38,360 The other one you blew up. 398 00:18:38,371 --> 00:18:39,904 Right before you killed your uncle. 399 00:18:39,915 --> 00:18:42,084 So, no more room at the inn. 400 00:18:42,524 --> 00:18:44,259 Hmm. 401 00:18:44,270 --> 00:18:47,073 You poisoned Cyrus. Cops were nipping at your heels. 402 00:18:47,173 --> 00:18:49,508 You needed to get home to your family in Seattle. 403 00:18:49,642 --> 00:18:53,212 And yet still, you-you got that vice. 404 00:18:53,223 --> 00:18:54,558 It's in your blood. 405 00:18:55,671 --> 00:18:58,406 Which means when you were done, you had to improvise, 406 00:18:58,417 --> 00:19:01,319 and if not for climate change, you'd have had 407 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,556 "no body, no crime". 408 00:19:04,878 --> 00:19:06,713 Voit seems awfully engrossed 409 00:19:06,959 --> 00:19:08,494 in those crime scene photos. 410 00:19:08,717 --> 00:19:10,752 It's not like Voit to drag this out. 411 00:19:10,763 --> 00:19:12,024 I know. 412 00:19:12,035 --> 00:19:13,703 I hear you turned over a new leaf. 413 00:19:14,398 --> 00:19:16,433 Where is she? 414 00:19:17,243 --> 00:19:19,279 Elias, do you know something? 415 00:19:22,341 --> 00:19:24,376 I'll show you where she is. 416 00:19:30,777 --> 00:19:32,412 Oh, no, no, no, no. 417 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,221 If you want her body, 418 00:19:37,232 --> 00:19:39,468 I need to take you there myself. 419 00:19:50,737 --> 00:19:52,738 - Sorry we're late. - Missed the fireworks. 420 00:19:52,739 --> 00:19:54,974 - Show's not over. - Emily, 421 00:19:55,074 --> 00:19:56,876 per your command, here is the whole 422 00:19:56,887 --> 00:19:59,456 sad history of... 423 00:19:59,736 --> 00:20:02,604 Kaliyah and Avery Burke. 424 00:20:02,615 --> 00:20:05,384 So, NCBI never had Voit or his network 425 00:20:05,517 --> 00:20:07,218 on their radar until now, 426 00:20:07,219 --> 00:20:08,887 and at the start of this investigation, 427 00:20:08,888 --> 00:20:10,757 this was looking like a repeat of the Laci Peterson case. 428 00:20:10,890 --> 00:20:12,058 Right. 2002, 429 00:20:12,158 --> 00:20:13,626 Modesto, California, woman murdered... 430 00:20:13,637 --> 00:20:16,073 - Pregnant woman murdered. - ... by her philandering husband. 431 00:20:16,084 --> 00:20:17,385 And so, naturally, here, all eyes 432 00:20:17,396 --> 00:20:18,964 turned to Kaliyah's philandering husband. 433 00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:20,452 Yeah, that would be Tristan Burke. 434 00:20:20,733 --> 00:20:23,235 He told his wife and his sister-in-law 435 00:20:23,246 --> 00:20:24,981 that his mother had fallen and she was in the hospital. 436 00:20:25,204 --> 00:20:28,574 Really, that was an excuse, because he was gonna go canoodle 437 00:20:28,585 --> 00:20:30,077 with one of his paramours. 438 00:20:30,108 --> 00:20:31,657 Given the circumstances, I mean, Tristan 439 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,101 could still be good for it. 440 00:20:33,112 --> 00:20:35,398 Yeah, we can't discount the kill kit. 441 00:20:35,409 --> 00:20:37,124 I'm totally with you there. 442 00:20:37,134 --> 00:20:39,245 We also need to get access 443 00:20:39,256 --> 00:20:41,258 to Tristan's digital communications to see 444 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:43,002 if he was ever in contact with Voit. 445 00:20:43,358 --> 00:20:45,426 Wait, w... Hold on a second. I-I'll give you 446 00:20:45,437 --> 00:20:47,172 the Haeberlin case is suspicious, 447 00:20:47,183 --> 00:20:48,684 but we know Voit and this isn't him. 448 00:20:49,294 --> 00:20:51,552 - Because of victimology? - The whole thing. 449 00:20:51,563 --> 00:20:53,132 It's too intimate. 450 00:20:53,444 --> 00:20:55,646 - Intimate? - Kaliyah and Avery's murders 451 00:20:55,657 --> 00:20:58,694 are crimes of passion, not psychopathy. 452 00:20:58,705 --> 00:20:59,938 Then, why is Voit 453 00:20:59,939 --> 00:21:01,373 choosing to insinuate himself in it? 454 00:21:01,473 --> 00:21:02,909 I'll put my money down 455 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,554 on he's looking for a chance to escape. 456 00:21:04,777 --> 00:21:07,213 Come on, that'll never happen. 457 00:21:07,313 --> 00:21:09,281 With all due respect to the local police, 458 00:21:09,292 --> 00:21:11,185 Voit might see a soft spot. 459 00:21:11,196 --> 00:21:13,032 This does put him temporarily 460 00:21:13,384 --> 00:21:16,253 but totally into D.A. Joy's custody. 461 00:21:16,422 --> 00:21:19,025 Dave, JJ, Tyler, we need to make sure Voit doesn't stray 462 00:21:19,214 --> 00:21:20,969 while he's on his little field trip. 463 00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:23,151 Tara, Luke, bring in Tristan Burke for questioning, 464 00:21:23,251 --> 00:21:24,786 work up a profile on him. 465 00:21:24,797 --> 00:21:26,999 Penelope, we need another deep dive 466 00:21:27,099 --> 00:21:28,300 into Voit's communications. 467 00:21:28,311 --> 00:21:30,313 Could we have missed something? 468 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:32,166 Absolutely we could not have... 469 00:21:33,505 --> 00:21:36,641 and, okay, you got it. 470 00:21:42,512 --> 00:21:44,214 One thing's for sure. 471 00:21:44,225 --> 00:21:46,227 It'll be good to get some fresh air. 472 00:21:46,238 --> 00:21:47,777 Fuck you. 473 00:21:47,788 --> 00:21:50,525 Better to let sleeping dogs lie. 474 00:21:51,188 --> 00:21:53,556 I don't have a choice. 475 00:21:54,927 --> 00:21:57,296 There are always choices. 476 00:21:57,396 --> 00:21:59,832 Just leave me alone. 477 00:22:00,358 --> 00:22:01,959 I'm just getting coffee. 478 00:22:03,288 --> 00:22:05,057 Though, I got to say, 479 00:22:05,361 --> 00:22:07,328 you did have me thinking 480 00:22:07,339 --> 00:22:09,375 that just maybe... 481 00:22:10,298 --> 00:22:14,102 Ah, but we both know you're just yanking everybody's chain here. 482 00:22:14,113 --> 00:22:15,381 I'm not. 483 00:22:15,392 --> 00:22:17,394 Kaliyah and her family, they... 484 00:22:18,717 --> 00:22:20,386 they deserve justice. 485 00:22:26,959 --> 00:22:28,193 Oh, he's coming. 486 00:22:28,194 --> 00:22:29,896 - There he is. - Excuse me, Mr. Voit. 487 00:22:30,118 --> 00:22:32,921 Voit. Are there more victims? 488 00:22:32,932 --> 00:22:34,533 Did you kill Kaliyah? 489 00:22:34,633 --> 00:22:35,768 You-you! 490 00:22:35,779 --> 00:22:38,084 You killed my daughter, goddamn you! 491 00:22:38,095 --> 00:22:40,565 Aah! No. Aah! 492 00:22:40,806 --> 00:22:42,608 - No! Give him to me! - What'd you do with the body? 493 00:22:42,865 --> 00:22:44,065 Give him to me! 494 00:22:44,076 --> 00:22:45,945 I'll show you what justice looks like! 495 00:22:46,052 --> 00:22:47,587 Sir. Sir, sir, sir. 496 00:22:48,069 --> 00:22:50,338 It's all right. It's all right. 497 00:22:50,439 --> 00:22:51,773 It's all right. It's gonna be all right. 498 00:22:51,784 --> 00:22:53,419 He took my baby girl. 499 00:22:53,608 --> 00:22:54,642 I know. 500 00:22:54,653 --> 00:22:56,688 I know, I know. 501 00:22:59,246 --> 00:23:01,714 Are you gonna demand the death penalty? 502 00:23:05,185 --> 00:23:06,953 I don't know what I was thinking. 503 00:23:07,934 --> 00:23:10,269 Like I'm gonna get to this guy being guarded 504 00:23:10,369 --> 00:23:12,038 - by half the damn state? - Your emotions 505 00:23:12,138 --> 00:23:14,704 - are understandable. - Well, I-I'm just... 506 00:23:14,715 --> 00:23:16,149 so confused, is all. 507 00:23:16,604 --> 00:23:18,271 Now, up until yesterday, 508 00:23:18,410 --> 00:23:20,579 everybody was saying Kaliyah's husband did it. 509 00:23:20,965 --> 00:23:24,869 And then they found Kaliyah's car and they found... 510 00:23:30,629 --> 00:23:32,698 They found little Avery. 511 00:23:34,649 --> 00:23:37,452 Now they're telling everybody that this-this... 512 00:23:37,463 --> 00:23:40,798 Si-Sicarius killer is responsible? 513 00:23:41,196 --> 00:23:42,858 I get it. 514 00:23:42,869 --> 00:23:44,669 It's hard to process. 515 00:23:45,183 --> 00:23:48,074 Well, you know, if I'm being honest, I... 516 00:23:48,174 --> 00:23:50,509 I never even wanted to admit she had been murdered. 517 00:23:50,764 --> 00:23:52,433 No, no, sir. 518 00:23:52,444 --> 00:23:55,646 I wanted them to keep calling it a missing persons case 519 00:23:55,647 --> 00:23:59,017 or, like, a kidnapping, 'cause... 520 00:23:59,018 --> 00:24:00,887 that meant there was hope. 521 00:24:02,848 --> 00:24:04,186 Hope that... 522 00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:07,132 she and my grandbaby would come home. 523 00:24:08,479 --> 00:24:10,348 Alive. 524 00:24:11,386 --> 00:24:13,499 How is your family holding up? 525 00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:15,212 Now... 526 00:24:15,434 --> 00:24:17,669 it's like a godsend 527 00:24:17,769 --> 00:24:21,240 that my wife... she passed away from COVID. 528 00:24:22,148 --> 00:24:24,183 But my daughter Ryleigh... 529 00:24:25,945 --> 00:24:29,548 Well, she ain't been the same since Kaliyah went away. 530 00:24:30,242 --> 00:24:31,443 See, she-she said she knew 531 00:24:31,542 --> 00:24:33,044 that Tristan had been stepping out, 532 00:24:33,132 --> 00:24:34,300 and she didn't say nothing. 533 00:24:34,311 --> 00:24:37,114 Figured it wasn't her business. 534 00:24:38,616 --> 00:24:40,953 When they couldn't put him away 535 00:24:40,964 --> 00:24:42,999 for the murders, 536 00:24:43,329 --> 00:24:45,897 all she could do was just make sure 537 00:24:45,898 --> 00:24:47,199 he didn't get anything 538 00:24:47,299 --> 00:24:49,368 that was rightfully our family's property. 539 00:24:50,295 --> 00:24:53,784 Do you think Ryleigh would be willing to talk to us? 540 00:24:53,795 --> 00:24:56,097 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. 541 00:24:56,375 --> 00:24:58,310 She-she'll help any way she can. 542 00:24:58,958 --> 00:25:00,392 Just seems like every time 543 00:25:00,632 --> 00:25:03,035 she's ready to take a step forward... 544 00:25:04,116 --> 00:25:06,185 without her sister... 545 00:25:07,533 --> 00:25:09,735 something like this just... 546 00:25:11,057 --> 00:25:13,425 pulls her right back into the pain. 547 00:25:22,734 --> 00:25:24,403 Mr. Burke. We really appreciate 548 00:25:24,536 --> 00:25:26,138 you volunteering to come and speak with us. 549 00:25:26,238 --> 00:25:28,074 I'm SSA Tara Lewis. 550 00:25:28,174 --> 00:25:29,708 SSA Luke Alvez. 551 00:25:29,808 --> 00:25:31,243 Have a seat. 552 00:25:31,254 --> 00:25:34,490 Well, you know, this whole experience has been, uh... 553 00:25:34,580 --> 00:25:36,948 incredibly surreal, right? 554 00:25:36,949 --> 00:25:38,817 I mean, four years, they tried to lock me up 555 00:25:38,917 --> 00:25:41,919 for, uh, killing my daughter and wife. 556 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,556 The fact you actually dug up the truth, I mean, 557 00:25:44,656 --> 00:25:46,592 - it's a good thing. - Actually, 558 00:25:46,725 --> 00:25:48,660 you can thank D.A. Joy. 559 00:25:50,335 --> 00:25:51,703 D.A. Joy? 560 00:25:51,714 --> 00:25:52,882 Yeah. 561 00:25:52,893 --> 00:25:54,328 Yeah, I-I don't think so. 562 00:25:54,446 --> 00:25:56,480 I mean, the man's had a hard-on for me since day one. 563 00:25:56,641 --> 00:25:58,743 I mean, put GPS monitors on my car, 564 00:25:58,754 --> 00:26:00,722 put a wire on my ex-girlfriend. 565 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,641 I mean, seriously trying to set me up. 566 00:26:02,652 --> 00:26:04,888 I was hoping you brought me here because you're investigating 567 00:26:05,111 --> 00:26:06,611 this motherfucker's misconduct. 568 00:26:06,612 --> 00:26:07,779 You can appreciate 569 00:26:07,790 --> 00:26:09,657 why you were considered a suspect. 570 00:26:09,668 --> 00:26:11,504 Right? I mean, the night that 571 00:26:11,515 --> 00:26:13,217 Kaliyah and Avery disappeared, you were... 572 00:26:13,403 --> 00:26:15,337 Look, what do you want me to say? 573 00:26:15,487 --> 00:26:16,788 I was a shitty husband? 574 00:26:17,169 --> 00:26:18,705 Okay. 575 00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:21,360 I lied about fucking around, all right? 576 00:26:21,371 --> 00:26:22,739 Guilty. 577 00:26:22,961 --> 00:26:25,231 That doesn't make me a goddamn killer. 578 00:26:26,478 --> 00:26:28,080 So, what are we actually doing here? 579 00:26:28,879 --> 00:26:30,725 Your wife and daughter were reported missing 580 00:26:30,736 --> 00:26:32,638 by Kaliyah's sister Ryleigh. 581 00:26:32,649 --> 00:26:34,216 And then it took over a week 582 00:26:34,306 --> 00:26:36,242 for you to interview with the police. 583 00:26:36,253 --> 00:26:37,554 When-when you finally did, you suggested 584 00:26:37,776 --> 00:26:39,045 - that your wife - No, we're not doing this. 585 00:26:39,145 --> 00:26:40,346 took your daughter and left you. 586 00:26:40,479 --> 00:26:41,980 We're not doing this. Come on. 587 00:26:41,991 --> 00:26:43,459 Right, and then it took another seven days 588 00:26:43,682 --> 00:26:45,151 before you allowed a search of your home. 589 00:26:45,162 --> 00:26:47,197 Yeah, where they found traces of blood in my kitchen. 590 00:26:47,419 --> 00:26:49,654 So, what, I'm a fucking killer and a moron? 591 00:26:49,950 --> 00:26:53,231 - That's not what we're saying. - Yeah, well, I'm saying I'm done here. 592 00:26:53,343 --> 00:26:54,477 How about that? 593 00:26:58,831 --> 00:27:02,401 You know, all you cops are the fucking same. 594 00:27:03,389 --> 00:27:06,445 You got your guy, a goddamn serial killer, 595 00:27:06,456 --> 00:27:08,726 and here you are, still... 596 00:27:09,341 --> 00:27:11,843 still trying to lock me up in a cage. 597 00:27:13,366 --> 00:27:15,025 All right. 598 00:27:46,011 --> 00:27:47,479 Want to make sure you got a clear shot? 599 00:27:47,490 --> 00:27:48,958 Yeah, don't tempt me. 600 00:27:49,674 --> 00:27:52,011 - Now, come on, let's go. - Take me to her. - Just-just... 601 00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:53,805 give me a second. 602 00:28:24,116 --> 00:28:25,916 It'd be some trick to escape now. 603 00:28:25,917 --> 00:28:29,155 Yeah, but it might not be about that. 604 00:28:32,897 --> 00:28:35,466 Voit. Where is she? 605 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:37,262 Not far. 606 00:28:55,426 --> 00:28:56,657 Voit! 607 00:29:05,804 --> 00:29:06,894 Voit! 608 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:10,149 Stop! 609 00:29:10,663 --> 00:29:13,728 Hey! We will shoot you. 610 00:29:13,779 --> 00:29:15,514 The fuck you trying to pull? 611 00:29:17,263 --> 00:29:19,097 Dig there. 612 00:29:22,341 --> 00:29:24,510 Dig. Right here. 613 00:29:30,016 --> 00:29:31,839 My wife will be right with you. 614 00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:33,819 Sorry for the intrusion. 615 00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:35,798 Eh. 616 00:29:35,809 --> 00:29:38,746 You, uh, got a job to do, right? 617 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,389 Uh, didn't there used to be a bookshelf 618 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,536 in that wall over there? 619 00:29:50,725 --> 00:29:52,393 Yeah. Yeah, how'd you know? 620 00:29:52,667 --> 00:29:54,022 Evidence photos? 621 00:29:54,126 --> 00:29:56,361 - Yeah. - I'm sorry to keep you waiting. 622 00:29:56,894 --> 00:29:58,299 It's no problem at all. 623 00:29:58,310 --> 00:30:00,780 It makes sense why the FBI is here, 624 00:30:00,791 --> 00:30:02,060 but I have to say, 625 00:30:02,338 --> 00:30:04,372 I'm a little surprised it's taken this long. 626 00:30:04,639 --> 00:30:06,963 Usually, we need to be invited in, but at this point, 627 00:30:06,974 --> 00:30:08,808 we're following up because the suspect 628 00:30:09,003 --> 00:30:11,072 Elias Voit has victims across the country. 629 00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:14,059 Hmm. Uh, Voit? 630 00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:16,406 He's the, uh, Sicarius killer? 631 00:30:16,699 --> 00:30:18,553 - He is. - Did he kill 632 00:30:18,564 --> 00:30:20,432 my sister and her baby? 633 00:30:20,443 --> 00:30:23,713 That's what we're here to find out. 634 00:30:42,521 --> 00:30:43,889 Open 'em. 635 00:30:49,828 --> 00:30:51,228 It's Kaliyah. 636 00:30:51,229 --> 00:30:53,699 Voit knew exactly where to find her. 637 00:31:02,321 --> 00:31:03,981 Hot off the presses, those remains 638 00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:05,996 Voit led you to are, in fact, Kaliyah Burke's. 639 00:31:06,007 --> 00:31:08,836 However, Voit's DNA isn't on her body 640 00:31:08,847 --> 00:31:10,416 or on those storage totes. 641 00:31:10,427 --> 00:31:12,161 - That's not a big surprise. - Oh, you want one of those. 642 00:31:12,384 --> 00:31:15,953 Well, guess whose DNA was slathered all over those bins? 643 00:31:15,954 --> 00:31:17,088 Tristan Burke's. 644 00:31:17,099 --> 00:31:19,702 So, Tristan has to be some sort of 645 00:31:19,891 --> 00:31:22,794 outer circle Sicarius network wannabe 646 00:31:22,805 --> 00:31:24,640 - that we somehow overlooked. - Calm down, Sheila. 647 00:31:24,863 --> 00:31:27,131 That "somehow" would be moi and I overlook zilch. 648 00:31:27,132 --> 00:31:30,302 I ran digital traces till the cyber cows came home, 649 00:31:30,402 --> 00:31:33,771 I cross-referenced that with the digital message system 650 00:31:33,772 --> 00:31:34,906 that Voit surrendered to us. 651 00:31:35,006 --> 00:31:36,475 At no place, no time, no point, 652 00:31:36,486 --> 00:31:38,355 did Tristan reach contact Voit 653 00:31:38,366 --> 00:31:39,967 - or vice-a the versa. - I don't understand. 654 00:31:39,978 --> 00:31:41,746 If they weren't talking, how did he know exactly 655 00:31:42,059 --> 00:31:43,495 - where to find that body? - I'll tell you 656 00:31:43,649 --> 00:31:45,483 exactly how he found that body, 657 00:31:45,484 --> 00:31:48,119 and it has nothing to do with him being a party to murder. 658 00:31:48,342 --> 00:31:49,877 He played the same profiling game 659 00:31:49,977 --> 00:31:53,180 I used to play with my old partner Jason Gideon. 660 00:31:53,191 --> 00:31:54,426 "I'm the Unsub." 661 00:31:54,437 --> 00:31:56,138 You think he inferred his own profile 662 00:31:56,417 --> 00:31:58,185 and imagined himself as the assailant. 663 00:31:58,196 --> 00:31:59,646 He didn't have to infer anything. 664 00:31:59,657 --> 00:32:02,294 It came to him instinctively because he's a serial killer. 665 00:32:02,574 --> 00:32:05,076 Right, for him, it's like the way a musician 666 00:32:05,087 --> 00:32:06,421 can easily pick up and play along 667 00:32:06,684 --> 00:32:08,553 with an unfamiliar chord progression. 668 00:32:08,564 --> 00:32:11,099 Plus, he knows the burial site like the back of his hand. 669 00:32:11,273 --> 00:32:12,874 I mean, given the soil, there's only one logical place 670 00:32:13,144 --> 00:32:14,990 he could have buried the body. 671 00:32:15,001 --> 00:32:16,893 That's one hell of a magic trick. 672 00:32:16,904 --> 00:32:17,908 It sure as hell 673 00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:18,987 - ain't magic. - But... 674 00:32:18,998 --> 00:32:20,499 Voit is playing a trick. 675 00:32:21,334 --> 00:32:22,943 He didn't want the chance to escape 676 00:32:22,954 --> 00:32:26,037 so much as he wanted to use this cold case 677 00:32:26,048 --> 00:32:29,228 so he could be convicted in a state court and sentenced to death. 678 00:32:29,581 --> 00:32:30,647 We got back 679 00:32:30,658 --> 00:32:32,694 our lab report on the Haeberlin case, 680 00:32:32,705 --> 00:32:34,573 and they're saying that case was manufactured 681 00:32:34,946 --> 00:32:36,648 - in 2023. - That's after Voit 682 00:32:36,659 --> 00:32:38,894 - was in custody. - Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me. 683 00:32:39,259 --> 00:32:41,735 It does if you're trying to frame Voit. 684 00:32:41,746 --> 00:32:44,225 Frame him? He-he found the damn body. 685 00:32:44,236 --> 00:32:45,703 Oh, JJ's right. 686 00:32:45,863 --> 00:32:47,932 And by Voit trying to take advantage of this cold case, 687 00:32:47,943 --> 00:32:49,626 he's gonna make it a whole hell of a lot harder 688 00:32:49,637 --> 00:32:50,838 to convict the actual killer. 689 00:32:50,849 --> 00:32:52,451 W-Wait. M-Maybe this was always 690 00:32:52,462 --> 00:32:54,297 part of Voit's plan with Tristan Burke. 691 00:32:54,609 --> 00:32:57,824 Uh, it may be part of somebody's plan. Garcia, 692 00:32:57,835 --> 00:32:59,636 - has Tristan been picked up? - Uh, yeah. 693 00:32:59,647 --> 00:33:01,081 The marshals just did and he's 694 00:33:01,253 --> 00:33:02,553 on his way to you as we speak. 695 00:33:02,564 --> 00:33:03,898 Okay. We'll get back to you. 696 00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:05,275 We're standing by. 697 00:33:05,286 --> 00:33:08,434 We need to get Voit to face the fact that if he doesn't come clean, 698 00:33:08,445 --> 00:33:10,111 the real killer gets away with this. 699 00:33:10,244 --> 00:33:12,177 - Let me talk to him. - No, JJ, let me? 700 00:33:32,170 --> 00:33:34,906 Hell of a performance today. 701 00:33:36,695 --> 00:33:38,229 Why are you here? 702 00:33:39,030 --> 00:33:40,666 I know you want the state of North Carolina 703 00:33:40,766 --> 00:33:42,968 to find you guilty and put you to death. 704 00:33:43,301 --> 00:33:46,326 And I-I swear, I wish they were gonna do it. 705 00:33:46,337 --> 00:33:48,774 But the problem is that means the person or persons 706 00:33:48,874 --> 00:33:50,275 who are actually responsible 707 00:33:50,286 --> 00:33:52,522 for killing Kaliyah and Avery Burke 708 00:33:52,533 --> 00:33:53,700 will escape justice. 709 00:33:53,711 --> 00:33:55,846 Yeah, Tyler, you don't know shit. 710 00:33:57,368 --> 00:33:59,740 Be serious. Your team figured this out. 711 00:33:59,751 --> 00:34:01,620 If it were up to you and D.A. Joy, 712 00:34:01,753 --> 00:34:04,389 the report on the Haeberlin case would be buried 713 00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:07,258 and Tristan Burke and Elias Voit 714 00:34:07,358 --> 00:34:10,361 would be on trial for capital murder conspiracy. 715 00:34:10,462 --> 00:34:13,832 Hey, you need to tell the locals exactly what's going on here. 716 00:34:15,534 --> 00:34:18,637 You do realize that if I hadn't agreed to indulge all this, 717 00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:22,474 then Kaliyah's body would never have been found, right? 718 00:34:22,485 --> 00:34:24,521 And nobody 719 00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:26,780 ever would have paid for her death, so... 720 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,798 - better Sicarius than nobody. - You can change that. 721 00:34:31,809 --> 00:34:33,377 Yeah, and you can do your job. 722 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,100 You can try reading the case file, 723 00:34:37,111 --> 00:34:39,580 because everything you need to figure this out is right there. 724 00:34:39,591 --> 00:34:41,792 But if you can't do that... 725 00:34:41,793 --> 00:34:44,662 if you can't figure it out... 726 00:34:44,663 --> 00:34:47,999 then Sicarius will die for your sins. 727 00:34:50,902 --> 00:34:53,171 I swear to God... 728 00:34:53,304 --> 00:34:55,206 as soon as this shit is over, I'm suing the fuck 729 00:34:55,385 --> 00:34:58,387 out of lame-ass Joy and you F-B-fucking-I's. 730 00:34:58,398 --> 00:35:00,300 You watch. 731 00:35:00,311 --> 00:35:03,348 - All right. - Yeah, well, get in line. 732 00:35:04,095 --> 00:35:05,763 This shit is funny to you? 733 00:35:05,774 --> 00:35:07,075 Listen to me. 734 00:35:07,304 --> 00:35:08,839 If you hadn't been fucking around 735 00:35:08,954 --> 00:35:11,145 and lying to the cops, we wouldn't even be here right now. 736 00:35:11,156 --> 00:35:12,491 Your goddamn DNA 737 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,516 is all over those bins along with Kaliyah's body. 738 00:35:14,916 --> 00:35:16,696 Yeah, okay, because they're mine. 739 00:35:16,707 --> 00:35:17,819 So what? 740 00:35:17,830 --> 00:35:19,365 I used them to move all my shit 741 00:35:19,505 --> 00:35:21,073 into K's house when we got married. 742 00:35:21,084 --> 00:35:22,586 - They been in the basement. - So what? 743 00:35:22,597 --> 00:35:25,533 So the killer stole them along with Kaliyah and Avery? 744 00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:28,875 I don't know. It seems that way, right? 745 00:35:30,676 --> 00:35:32,578 Tell me something, Tristan. 746 00:35:33,324 --> 00:35:34,592 What? 747 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,147 Why did you get married? 748 00:35:42,087 --> 00:35:44,088 'Cause Kaliyah got pregnant. 749 00:35:44,099 --> 00:35:46,300 And to be honest, 750 00:35:46,513 --> 00:35:49,316 I told her I would pay to take care of it, 751 00:35:49,327 --> 00:35:51,396 but she wasn't hearing any of that. 752 00:35:51,407 --> 00:35:52,775 Of course. 753 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:57,645 And then my mom found out. 754 00:35:57,836 --> 00:36:00,038 So I had to do right. 755 00:36:00,536 --> 00:36:02,963 You don't even know how many times 756 00:36:02,974 --> 00:36:06,577 I actually prayed to be free. 757 00:36:07,345 --> 00:36:09,815 And so your prayers were answered. 758 00:36:10,175 --> 00:36:11,419 No. 759 00:36:14,352 --> 00:36:16,922 Look, I know I'm not a good guy... 760 00:36:17,723 --> 00:36:19,557 but I swear to God... 761 00:36:20,391 --> 00:36:22,493 I'm not a bad guy, either. 762 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,901 Honestly? 763 00:36:30,902 --> 00:36:33,705 I'm not sure what the hell I'm looking at here. 764 00:36:33,805 --> 00:36:35,440 Assuming what you said before... 765 00:36:35,573 --> 00:36:37,743 that this is a crime of passion, not psychopathy... 766 00:36:37,876 --> 00:36:40,077 then that motive still lands hard on Tristan. 767 00:36:40,078 --> 00:36:41,746 Because that's what the real killer 768 00:36:41,747 --> 00:36:43,649 was banking on from the start. 769 00:36:43,749 --> 00:36:46,918 So, let's think harder about this disposal site. 770 00:36:47,399 --> 00:36:49,121 It's remote, which means whoever chose it 771 00:36:49,132 --> 00:36:51,567 had to have had a lot of experience there. 772 00:36:51,876 --> 00:36:54,192 - Years. - That's not Tristan. 773 00:36:54,282 --> 00:36:56,763 He only moved here when he married Kaliyah. 774 00:36:56,774 --> 00:36:58,108 He's also not the nature type. 775 00:36:58,348 --> 00:37:02,051 So, if "crime of passion", then "real killer" 776 00:37:02,292 --> 00:37:04,828 must be someone with an intimate knowledge of Yasper Creek, 777 00:37:04,839 --> 00:37:08,376 and presumably as close to Kaliyah, emotionally, 778 00:37:08,739 --> 00:37:10,273 as her own husband. 779 00:37:10,409 --> 00:37:12,680 It's-it's got to be a family member. 780 00:37:12,944 --> 00:37:13,944 No way. 781 00:37:14,201 --> 00:37:15,402 Come on, we've seen how much 782 00:37:15,413 --> 00:37:16,682 the loss of Kaliyah and her daughter 783 00:37:16,782 --> 00:37:18,549 has wrecked her surviving family. 784 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,195 I know. But we need 785 00:37:20,206 --> 00:37:21,874 to have Garcia look into their backgrounds. 786 00:37:29,416 --> 00:37:32,152 Hello, Mr. Faust. We're sorry to trouble you at this hour. 787 00:37:32,163 --> 00:37:34,700 Uh, no, no. Please, come on in. 788 00:37:34,711 --> 00:37:36,779 Ryleigh's right down there. 789 00:37:41,987 --> 00:37:43,521 D.A. Joy just called. 790 00:37:44,047 --> 00:37:46,143 We're very sorry. 791 00:37:46,144 --> 00:37:48,979 Well, at least she's coming home. 792 00:37:49,258 --> 00:37:50,570 How may we help you? 793 00:37:50,581 --> 00:37:52,317 We need to speak to Jesse. 794 00:37:52,507 --> 00:37:53,674 Me? 795 00:37:53,774 --> 00:37:54,775 W-What for? 796 00:37:54,786 --> 00:37:57,276 - Maybe you want to come with us. - Are you serious? 797 00:37:57,287 --> 00:37:59,623 - What's going on? - Nothing's going on. 798 00:38:04,375 --> 00:38:05,677 Jesse. 799 00:38:17,916 --> 00:38:19,184 You don't understand! 800 00:38:19,645 --> 00:38:22,548 No. I don't. 801 00:38:31,178 --> 00:38:32,557 Jesse Poole. 802 00:38:32,568 --> 00:38:35,805 Age 37, born and raised here in Friars Town. 803 00:38:36,205 --> 00:38:39,575 Carpenter by trade, but a longtime volunteer 804 00:38:39,586 --> 00:38:41,055 for the forestry service. 805 00:38:41,206 --> 00:38:45,243 Spent a lot of time around Yasper. 806 00:38:45,738 --> 00:38:47,172 It's not what you think. 807 00:38:47,780 --> 00:38:50,083 What do we think, Jesse? 808 00:38:50,245 --> 00:38:53,515 I... I don't know. 809 00:38:53,852 --> 00:38:55,419 Why'd you run? 810 00:38:55,870 --> 00:38:57,715 I... I... 811 00:38:57,726 --> 00:38:59,594 I'm allowed a lawyer. 812 00:39:02,315 --> 00:39:04,622 Yes. Yes, you are. 813 00:39:05,824 --> 00:39:07,793 We'll have you wait right here. 814 00:39:25,189 --> 00:39:27,091 No. No. 815 00:39:27,832 --> 00:39:29,834 Hey, what the actual fuck, huh? 816 00:39:31,327 --> 00:39:33,496 You can't leave me here with this psycho. 817 00:39:33,611 --> 00:39:34,946 Can you hear me? 818 00:39:35,153 --> 00:39:36,282 Hello? 819 00:39:36,293 --> 00:39:37,426 - Hey! - You think this'll work? 820 00:39:37,437 --> 00:39:38,939 - Hey! What the fuck? - Well, 821 00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:41,658 it's not the craziest idea Rossi's ever come up with. 822 00:39:41,659 --> 00:39:44,495 I want my lawyer. Get me a fucking lawyer! 823 00:39:48,101 --> 00:39:49,941 D.A. Joy, I need to talk to you. 824 00:39:49,952 --> 00:39:51,320 Mrs. Poole, we understand 825 00:39:51,331 --> 00:39:53,059 - how confusing this... - You can't possible think 826 00:39:53,070 --> 00:39:55,272 my husband had anything to do with my sister's murder. 827 00:39:55,426 --> 00:39:56,593 We do. 828 00:39:57,066 --> 00:39:58,358 Please. 829 00:40:02,934 --> 00:40:05,103 My husband is a good man. 830 00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:07,552 L-Look, Jesse just couldn't hurt a soul. 831 00:40:07,563 --> 00:40:10,033 Now, if-if you don't think this Sicarius person 832 00:40:10,044 --> 00:40:11,514 is guilty, then why don't you take another look 833 00:40:11,525 --> 00:40:13,402 - at Tristan Burke? - Oh, we did. 834 00:40:13,413 --> 00:40:15,470 Somebody tried to frame them both. 835 00:40:15,481 --> 00:40:16,682 Not Jesse. 836 00:40:17,785 --> 00:40:19,821 - Why? - Yes, why? 837 00:40:19,832 --> 00:40:21,901 That is the question. 838 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,202 With Jesse, right now, we have two points 839 00:40:24,391 --> 00:40:27,994 of the conviction triangle: Opportunity and means. 840 00:40:28,005 --> 00:40:29,640 But what's his motive? What does he stand to gain 841 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,788 by a double homicide? 842 00:40:32,799 --> 00:40:33,964 The truth is, 843 00:40:33,975 --> 00:40:37,579 there are only two fundamental motives for murder: 844 00:40:37,776 --> 00:40:39,443 Passion or profit. 845 00:40:39,477 --> 00:40:42,113 Sometimes they go hand in hand, like here. 846 00:40:42,387 --> 00:40:45,756 What? Are you gonna say Jesse was rebuffed by my sister 847 00:40:45,891 --> 00:40:47,772 and that he has plans to kill me, too? 848 00:40:47,783 --> 00:40:50,719 Well, actually, your husband has no motive. 849 00:40:51,062 --> 00:40:53,831 He's been loyal to you to a fault. 850 00:40:53,932 --> 00:40:56,101 Over the years, with the work we do, 851 00:40:56,112 --> 00:40:57,780 we've seen how the thin line 852 00:40:57,933 --> 00:41:00,135 between grief and guilt can often blur. 853 00:41:00,894 --> 00:41:03,430 While it seems understandable for a family member 854 00:41:03,441 --> 00:41:07,077 to try to minimize the reminders of the deceased, 855 00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:09,558 the profile of a family member 856 00:41:09,569 --> 00:41:11,149 in mourning 857 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,795 suggests it's far more common for them 858 00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:14,872 to do just about everything 859 00:41:14,883 --> 00:41:17,084 to preserve the memories 860 00:41:17,288 --> 00:41:18,890 of their lost loved one. 861 00:41:18,901 --> 00:41:20,903 This house meant so much to your sister. 862 00:41:20,914 --> 00:41:24,117 She added a lot of her own little touches, didn't she? 863 00:41:24,771 --> 00:41:26,954 So, i-it's a bit curious to us 864 00:41:26,965 --> 00:41:29,300 that the moment you took possession of it, 865 00:41:29,434 --> 00:41:31,136 you erased every trace of her. 866 00:41:31,236 --> 00:41:33,804 From shelves in the, uh, living room 867 00:41:33,939 --> 00:41:36,987 - to backsplash in the kitchen. - How dare you? 868 00:41:36,998 --> 00:41:38,700 Where-where you going with this? 869 00:41:39,592 --> 00:41:40,767 Mr. Faust, 870 00:41:40,778 --> 00:41:43,548 do you know the reason why your wife 871 00:41:43,648 --> 00:41:46,417 left her grandparents' house to Kaliyah 872 00:41:46,517 --> 00:41:48,738 and not to both your daughters? 873 00:41:48,749 --> 00:41:50,583 Well-well, that was just some... 874 00:41:51,756 --> 00:41:53,871 I-I mean, it-it doesn't mean anything. 875 00:41:53,882 --> 00:41:55,784 "And in the event of Kaliyah's death, 876 00:41:56,453 --> 00:41:58,685 the house would belong to Avery... " 877 00:41:58,696 --> 00:42:00,764 Now you say what you want to say or you better shut the fuck up. 878 00:42:01,232 --> 00:42:04,002 Passion and profit, Ryleigh. 879 00:42:05,192 --> 00:42:08,095 Your husband is in that back room spilling his guts. 880 00:42:08,106 --> 00:42:10,813 You tell us what he's got to say. 881 00:42:10,824 --> 00:42:13,861 He helped you murder your own sister 882 00:42:14,575 --> 00:42:16,335 and your precious little niece. 883 00:42:16,346 --> 00:42:18,091 - No, no. No. - You and Jesse 884 00:42:18,102 --> 00:42:19,391 tried to frame Tristan. 885 00:42:19,402 --> 00:42:20,771 And once you realized that lie 886 00:42:20,933 --> 00:42:22,334 wasn't gonna hold... I'm guessing 887 00:42:22,620 --> 00:42:24,688 you were the one who was listening 888 00:42:24,689 --> 00:42:26,157 to a popular podcast... 889 00:42:26,168 --> 00:42:28,737 you thought maybe a true crime twist might save you. 890 00:42:28,748 --> 00:42:30,817 That's why you planted the Haeberlin case. 891 00:42:39,274 --> 00:42:40,955 You goddamn... You dumb son of a bitch! 892 00:42:40,966 --> 00:42:42,142 That's enough. 893 00:42:42,153 --> 00:42:43,644 Ryleigh, tell 'em they're wrong. 894 00:42:43,655 --> 00:42:46,758 - Tell 'em they're wrong. - It's not fucking fair. 895 00:42:47,865 --> 00:42:50,533 Kaliyah got everything she wanted. 896 00:42:51,151 --> 00:42:53,445 - Ryleigh. - Everything. 897 00:42:54,398 --> 00:42:56,676 And I got the scraps. 898 00:42:57,194 --> 00:42:59,296 And when Mom was dying, 899 00:42:59,307 --> 00:43:01,575 I cleaned up her shit. 900 00:43:02,179 --> 00:43:03,319 And... 901 00:43:03,689 --> 00:43:06,596 in the end, still... 902 00:43:07,665 --> 00:43:09,700 she picked Kaliyah... 903 00:43:10,768 --> 00:43:12,507 over me. 904 00:43:12,518 --> 00:43:15,021 Ryleigh. No... 905 00:43:21,364 --> 00:43:23,266 Ryleigh. 906 00:43:23,277 --> 00:43:24,378 No. 907 00:43:27,852 --> 00:43:28,986 Thank you. 908 00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:43,168 "Whatever is begun in anger 909 00:43:43,179 --> 00:43:44,813 ends in shame." 910 00:43:45,002 --> 00:43:46,771 Benjamin Franklin. 911 00:43:49,625 --> 00:43:52,027 How you doing, kid? 912 00:43:52,722 --> 00:43:54,091 Been better. 913 00:43:55,380 --> 00:43:56,747 Want to talk about it? 914 00:43:56,847 --> 00:44:00,118 Seems like all I'm doing is talking about it, actually. 915 00:44:00,251 --> 00:44:01,785 How's that? 916 00:44:01,786 --> 00:44:03,621 Counseling. 917 00:44:03,754 --> 00:44:06,791 You know, for years after Alison was murdered, 918 00:44:06,802 --> 00:44:09,138 I had this one, singular focus. 919 00:44:09,416 --> 00:44:12,686 Find the man who killed her and end him. 920 00:44:12,697 --> 00:44:14,632 And then... 921 00:44:16,690 --> 00:44:19,526 my life took this crazy-ass turn. 922 00:44:19,537 --> 00:44:21,972 And now I'm here, but I'm... 923 00:44:23,186 --> 00:44:25,188 I'm at a loss. 924 00:44:26,966 --> 00:44:29,002 - What makes you feel that? - For starters, 925 00:44:29,013 --> 00:44:31,482 even fucking Voit is a better profiler than me. 926 00:44:31,582 --> 00:44:33,151 No, I told you, the guy's a psycho. 927 00:44:33,284 --> 00:44:35,986 - It comes naturally to him. - I never would have profiled 928 00:44:36,087 --> 00:44:37,413 Ryleigh and her husband as suspects. 929 00:44:37,424 --> 00:44:39,292 - Never. - Because your personal experience 930 00:44:39,590 --> 00:44:43,294 with family is telling you blood doesn't betray blood. 931 00:44:43,394 --> 00:44:46,997 Obviously, it can and it does, 932 00:44:47,405 --> 00:44:49,289 so all this means is you need more time 933 00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:52,537 to set aside your personal bias. 934 00:44:53,471 --> 00:44:55,206 I see. 935 00:44:55,306 --> 00:44:58,209 I need to detach. 936 00:44:58,936 --> 00:45:01,872 It'll take time. And more reps. 937 00:45:02,026 --> 00:45:04,095 What if I can't hack it? 938 00:45:05,003 --> 00:45:06,138 You will. 939 00:45:06,351 --> 00:45:08,018 How can you be so sure? 940 00:45:11,489 --> 00:45:15,193 Because I'm a great fucking profiler. 941 00:45:23,557 --> 00:45:25,335 Keep 'em closed, keep 'em closed. Okay. 942 00:45:25,336 --> 00:45:27,872 Not yet, not yet. Okay... Okay, you can open your eyes. 943 00:45:27,883 --> 00:45:28,884 - What do you think? - Wow! 944 00:45:29,106 --> 00:45:31,447 Ah! Bringing the outdoors 945 00:45:31,458 --> 00:45:33,660 to the indoors. I mean... 946 00:45:33,904 --> 00:45:35,005 This is pretty cool, right? 947 00:45:35,016 --> 00:45:37,218 You guys, I don't know what to say. 948 00:45:37,515 --> 00:45:38,549 Wha... 949 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,362 I don't know, it's kind of dumb. 950 00:45:40,678 --> 00:45:41,803 Henry. 951 00:45:41,906 --> 00:45:43,407 Kind of dumb? 952 00:45:43,437 --> 00:45:44,906 No way. No. 953 00:45:45,316 --> 00:45:46,584 It's not dumb. Okay? 954 00:45:46,771 --> 00:45:48,839 I mean, we used to do this when I was a kid, 955 00:45:48,850 --> 00:45:50,686 and it's all about using your imagination. 956 00:45:50,984 --> 00:45:53,620 All right? We're gonna pretend to sleep under the stars... 957 00:45:53,631 --> 00:45:54,932 No, Henry, you're right. 958 00:45:54,943 --> 00:45:56,378 It is, it's a little dumb. 959 00:45:56,389 --> 00:45:58,700 We could've painted florescent stars on the ceiling. 960 00:45:58,711 --> 00:46:00,087 - That would have made sense. - No. 961 00:46:00,098 --> 00:46:01,865 It's all good. 962 00:46:02,173 --> 00:46:04,008 It is all good and we're gonna have a good time 963 00:46:04,197 --> 00:46:05,665 because we are gonna make some s'mores. 964 00:46:05,676 --> 00:46:08,579 We're gonna cook them over the open stove here. 965 00:46:08,590 --> 00:46:10,558 And it's gonna be great. What do you say? 966 00:46:10,569 --> 00:46:12,004 Sure. Why not? 967 00:46:12,015 --> 00:46:13,182 That's what I'm talking about. 968 00:46:13,518 --> 00:46:15,420 Let's go. "Dumb." 969 00:46:15,431 --> 00:46:17,499 How dare you? 970 00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:19,711 - Oh. - Here. 971 00:46:19,851 --> 00:46:20,952 - Dumb? - Oh... 972 00:46:21,125 --> 00:46:22,553 Not so dumb. 973 00:46:22,954 --> 00:46:25,156 Oh, my. 974 00:46:25,503 --> 00:46:28,273 Ooh. Is that Mr. Saturday? 975 00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:30,685 Yes. Uh... 976 00:46:31,495 --> 00:46:34,231 - Got his days wrong. - Aw. 977 00:46:34,242 --> 00:46:36,411 Oh, well, then, you should go. 978 00:46:36,555 --> 00:46:37,823 Absolutely not. 979 00:46:38,101 --> 00:46:40,971 - Sisters over misters. - Aw. 980 00:46:41,078 --> 00:46:42,880 Watch me... watch this. 981 00:46:43,748 --> 00:46:45,134 Whoa. Yeah. 982 00:46:45,145 --> 00:46:47,381 Seriously, though. 983 00:46:47,712 --> 00:46:49,714 - Thank you for this. - Mm. 984 00:46:49,725 --> 00:46:51,460 Mm... 985 00:46:52,579 --> 00:46:54,581 Do you have any idea how many pieces 986 00:46:54,592 --> 00:46:57,698 of fan mail I get in here every single day? 987 00:46:57,709 --> 00:46:59,677 You know that comes with the territory. 988 00:47:00,023 --> 00:47:01,959 - It's messed-up. - Well... 989 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,503 you'll get no argument from me there. 990 00:47:07,784 --> 00:47:11,655 So, I guess I got it into my head that maybe... 991 00:47:13,367 --> 00:47:15,869 if I got put down, these idiots 992 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,617 would realize that I'm not a fucking hero. 993 00:47:20,751 --> 00:47:22,953 That wouldn't have worked anyway. 994 00:47:23,281 --> 00:47:24,944 No, it wouldn't, because parasites 995 00:47:24,955 --> 00:47:28,314 like Brian Garrity would turn my execution into martyrdom. 996 00:47:28,325 --> 00:47:30,223 Yeah. That's right. 997 00:47:30,234 --> 00:47:31,702 Yeah. 998 00:47:33,010 --> 00:47:34,812 Still my fault. 999 00:47:36,267 --> 00:47:38,002 All the-all the lives I've taken, 1000 00:47:38,102 --> 00:47:41,171 the network of killers I put together, my... 1001 00:47:41,182 --> 00:47:44,352 trial, my confessions, it's all just... 1002 00:47:45,857 --> 00:47:48,893 evolved into... 1003 00:47:51,248 --> 00:47:53,851 social contagion. 1004 00:48:13,938 --> 00:48:15,640 And while you were away... 1005 00:48:16,441 --> 00:48:18,843 saved you a whole bunch of fan letters. 1006 00:48:54,063 --> 00:48:55,969 It's sad how pathetic I am, 1007 00:48:55,980 --> 00:48:57,948 but you know what's even more pathetic? 1008 00:48:59,176 --> 00:49:01,122 Someone who makes a show about it. 1009 00:49:07,371 --> 00:49:09,741 And anyone who listens to it. 1010 00:49:21,309 --> 00:49:26,309 - Synced and corrected by naFraC - - www.addic7ed.com - 72463

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