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(POLICE RADIO CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY)

DEMONSTRATORS: No justice, no peace!

No justice, no peace!

No justice, no peace! No justice, no peace!

No justice, no peace!

Hey hey, ho ho! These killer cops have got to go!

Hey hey, ho ho! These killer cops have got to go!

No justice, no peace!

No justice, no peace!

MAN: It's no surprise, man.

It's not, it happens every day all the time,

but it takes something of this magnitude

to be nationally publicized.

It just depends, whatever the media... They picked up on this story.

There's other stories they didn't pick up on like this one.

Like it's good that they did, and I hope St. Louis takes

advantage of the opportunity, man,

but there's a whole bunch of other kids that get shot by the cops too.

And don't nobody do no marches and stuff for them.

One hundred percent, man.

Do you feel the anger? And it has to change.

There has to be an ear in leadership to listen,

rather than just ordering around.

And you have a generation that are getting fed up with it.

They're getting fed up with it.

And even though they don't have what we call a...

A organized education, they're intelligent individuals.

And so they understand what it is to be oppressed

and they know when someone is trying to oppress them.

And as you see out here now, they're fighting it.

And I think that it's going to be more

than just Ferguson in the future.

I think it's gonna expand,

I really do.

WOMAN: Please do not forget that there is a 12:00 curfew

and if you are out in Ferguson after 12:00 we cannot ensure your safety.

The police are not telling us how they will respond

to anyone being down in Ferguson after 12:00.

We cannot ensure your safety. There are too many people.

PROTESTER: There is no peace at all! Answers is what we want!

Give us that, or there will be no sleep! None at all!

I'm not scared of your stick! That means nothing to me!

I need answers, Tonight! Answer me this!

OFFICER: Please calm down. PROTESTER: Why are we out here?

OFFICER: Calm it down.

If I answer your questions, I'll listen to you and I want you to listen to me.

Let's not scream at each other.

PROTESTER: You first.

We're out here to get answers.

If I had answers to give you, young man, I would.

I would.

And there's answers to the questions that you're asking,

and trust me, if I could give you some answers,

I know it would allow all of us to go home tonight.

But I guarantee you that every night when I go home and I wake up,

I'm looking for some of the same answers that you're looking for.

PROTESTER: Why are you speaking for him?

Why are you speaking for him?

OFFICER: He's speaking for us, brother. He's speaking for the community.

PROTESTER: You need to speak for us. We need answers.

We need answers!

Just like the answers that you want,

there's people that are white, Hispanic, Asian...

When you look around here,

there's a lot of people that say, "You know what,

"We're out here protesting,

"We're out here asking for change it isn't just us.

"It's everybody."

(PROTESTORS SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY)

Hands up, don't shoot!

Hands up, don't shoot!

Hands up, don't shoot!

MAN: You are in violation of the state-imposed curfew.

You must disperse immediately in a peaceful manner.

Don't resist! Don't resist!

We have the right to assemble peacefully!

MAN: You are violating the state-imposed curfew.

No one is doing anything wrong!

No one is doing anything wrong!

We have the right! That's our right!

That's what we vote for!

PROTESTER: Tell them there's no looting tonight!

There is no looting!

PROTESTER: There is no fighting tonight!

There is no fighting!

PROTESTER: Please tell them. All we want to do is protest peacefully!

MAN : You must disperse the area immediately.

You are in violation of the state-imposed curfew.

You are subject to arrest.

You must leave immediately.

WOMAN: Marco!

Marco!

Marco!

This is how they do us. What the fuck?

You think we can't peacefully protest, motherfuckers!

That's bullshit!

Fuck you!

Fuck you!

MAN : You are not authorized to remain...

Move!

Hey!

You guys should be ready to go home.

Back up! Back up!

Back up! Back up!

Keep going. Keep going!

MAN : You need to continue to move!

If you are standing still, you may be subject to arrest.

OFFICER: This is ground zero! Back up!

This is ground zero!

(DISPATCH CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY)

DISPATCH: Car 16?

MAN: Hey, lift it back up.

Come on, guys, move the line back.

Watch your back.

Let's go.

FEMALE OFFICER: Hey!

FEMALE OFFICER: Yes.

MAN : Car 72 or 55?

Are you on the afternoons now or what are you working now?

Afternoons. I'm going on hour four of overtime.

OFFICER: Oh, that's cool. Yeah, right?

They need to stop giving these boys these toys

'cause they don't know how to handle it.

Hello?

DAVE GROSSMAN: The policeman is the man of the city.

Heard of the mountain man, the frontiersman?

Nobody talks about frontiersmen anymore.

We still talk about policemen.

You are to your city, your county, your state

what the frontiersman was to the frontier.

You fight violence.

What do you fight it with?

Superior violence.

Righteous violence, yeah?

Violence is your tool. Violence is your enemy.

Violence is the realm we operate in.

You are men and women of violence.

You must master it,

or it will destroy you, yeah?

I've been on the road for 18 years.

People know me. They trust me.

I get a depth of information.

I ask questions other people won't ask.

Cop says knock-down, drag-out fight,

cuff them and stuff them.

Finally get home at the end of the shift and...

Cop says gunfight, bad guys down.

'I'm alive!"

Finally get home at the end of the incident

and they all say,

"The best sex I've had in months."

Both partners are very invested in some very intense sex.

There's not a whole lot of perks that come with this job.

You find one, relax and enjoy it.

Thank you, for taking and keeping...

Anybody here from prison, probation, jail?

'Cause I honor you, I publicly honor you.

You looked in the eyes of scary people every day,

and you know the world's a better place 'cause they're behind bars, yes?

So you do this...

On your way home that night, park your vehicle in the overpass

for just a minute.

Step out of your vehicle for just a minute.

Look out on your city.

Look at your citizens going about their lives,

and know deep in your gut

that today,

at the risk of your life,

you made their world a better place,

whether they know it or not.

Then walk up that bridge rail,

put your hands on that rail.

Look out on your city,

and let your cape blow in the wind.

Thanks, guys. Thank you.

Go, go, go! Easy!

You got it, man. Ya'll gotta go!

RICKY EZELL: Easy run, boys, let's go! Breathe!

Let's go! Get it done!

We all get amped up, going on, if we do a regular warrant,

we all get the feel, and the adrenalin going,

but you don't get the butterflies

you do on the start line for any of these events.

It's just different.

Get in, let's go! Get in, let's go, let's go, let's go!

Get inside, then you'll be good!

(SWAT TEAM SHOUTING, CHEERIING)

I remember the first search warrant,

you're riding on the outside of these armored vehicles.

I remember the first time I did it,

I'm just trying not to smile, like it was just so much fun,

I thought it was so cool.

And so now every time we get new guys, we call them pups,

we call them "SWAT pups,"

and I'm always watching them.

The first time they go on a search warrant,

they're on the outside of the vehicles,

I always look for them and they're always just

smiling ear to ear.

They just feel like they're on the top of the world.

Get in there! Get in there!

Good job, guys.

SWAT OFFICER: Obviously, we don't have it as bad over here

as they do in Iraq or Afghanistan

but we come across threats too that

military training's gonna help.

All the things we have the M4 rifles and the armored trucks we have,

we have 'cause something in the States

has happened that has warranted that for us.

This is a diversionary device. One, two, three!

* For the land of the free

* And the home of the

* Brave

ANNOUNCER: Please help me welcome

the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Director Comey, a real friend of law enforcement.

While our officers are facing an increasingly dangerous environment,

we are seeing a growing debate about

so-called "warrior cops,"

a term that I've heard and the militarization of police.

I think it's very important to remind our fellow citizens

that we all tell a lie to our children.

I have five children, and all five of them have woken up during the night,

afraid of monsters.

And so I have lied to them,

and I've told them that monsters aren't real.

"Go back to sleep. Monsters aren't real."

Monsters are real.

Monsters are barricaded inside apartments

waiting for law enforcement to respond

so they can fire rounds that will pierce a ballistic vest.

Because of that reality, because monsters are real,

we need a range of weapons and equipment to respond

and protect our fellow citizens and protect ourselves.

It is all the more important that we,

as people who are responsible for securing this country,

remain tightly connected to each other.

And I thank you

for your commitment to our joint terrorism task forces

and to the fusion centers,

which are the embodiment of that cooperation.

That is the way we stay responsive

to a metastasizing and changing threat.

CITIZEN: You don't need this. You really don't.

I was a colonel... I'm a retired colonel in the Marine Corps.

I saw a sign back there that said,

"We want more Mayberry and less Fallujah."

And I spent a year in Fallujah.

The way we do things in the military

is called "task organization."

You take a command and then you attach units to it

in order to accomplish the mission.

What's happening is we're building a domestic military

because it's unlawful, unconstitutional

to use American troops on American soil.

So I don't know where we're gonna use this many vehicles and this many troops.

Concord is just one little cog in the wheel.

We're building an army over here and I can't believe that people aren't seeing it.

My wife always told my kids... MAN: Thank you very much.

...there's always free cheese in the mousetrap.

I understand that the police officers run toward danger,

and that is an admirable thing,

but we need to put things into perspective.

This is from the federal government's National Safety Council.

Your chances of dying from a terrorist attack

are one in 20 million.

So we need to put the brakes on the fear

and we need to act rationally.

Terrorism works because it makes people irrational,

and it makes them destroy themselves.

That's what's happening. MAN: Thank you very much.

If you had told me 20 years ago when I was serving my country

and defending it against the Soviet Union,

that someday we would have armored personnel carriers

used to roam the streets of Concord, New Hampshire,

I would have told you, you were a raving lunatic.

Because that sort of thing doesn't happen here in America,

where people are free

and we have a government that is a government of,

by and for the people.

So the idea that we should have that,

just because it's free money.

It's not free money, It's all of our money,

and it's more than just all of our money, it's debt.

You know, and debt is a form of slavery.

The more this country goes into debt,

the heavier the chains on all of us.

I will say that I intend to vote in favor

of accepting, um, the federal money to purchase a Bearcat.

WOMAN: Counselor Blanchard. BLANCHARD: Yes.

WOMAN: Counselor Dililacona. DILILACONA: Yes.

WOMAN: Counselor Grady Sexton. GRADY SEXTON: Yes.

Counselor Patton. PATTON: No.

WOMAN: Counselor Sheech. SHEECH: Yes.

Motion's adopted, 11 to 4.

BOB RUSSELL: These are coming back from overseas.

Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan,

trains come in daily.

They're coming back to be demilitarized,

put away or sold as foreign sales.

They're evaluated

and then they issue them to the law enforcement.

They supposedly have been cleared.

You shouldn't find any human anatomy in there.

They pretty well purge them out.

But unfortunately, it still gets through.

You'll find it every once in a while.

There's no way around it. War is war.

The big thing is to teach them how to maneuver the truck to prevent the rollovers.

Unfortunately, we never train the law enforcement,

so they're kind of out there on their own.

This is an MRAP vehicle we acquired through the 1033 program.

The 1033 program is a government program that funnels military property

that is no longer used to local law enforcement.

I haven't driven this one yet, so this will be my first drive.

Oopsie.

This is Lieutenant Tony, he handles the 1033 program for me,

and usually what happens with the 1033 program,

they'll put the available equipment on the site,

so you keep checking the site repeatedly

to see if any of that equipment there

would benefit your agency or your county.

So we may not be looking for nothing,

but we might see something on there tomorrow that "Oh we could use that."

I think the main place we would use this vehicle

is in incidents where the public is being threatened with the use of a firearm

or any time we do a drug search warrant.

Often times those are no-knock warrants

and we use the tactical team for those entries

and we would respond with this vehicle in those situations as well.

SEN. COBURN: How did we ever get to the point where we think states need MRAPS?

Tell me, how do they decide if an MRAP's appropriate

for a community of my hometown, 35,000 people?

ALAN ESTEVEZ: An MRAP is a truck, Senator, with...

No, it's not a truck, it's a 48,000-pound offensive weapon.

ESTEVEZ: It is not an offensive weapon, Senator.

It can be used as an offensive weapon.

ESTEVEZ: When we give an MRAP, it does not have a 50-caliber weapon on it.

It's not an offensive weapon. It is a protective vehicle.

In Dr. Coburn's state, the Payne City sheriff's office

has one full-time sworn officer,

one.

They've gotten two MRAPS since 2011.

How in the world can anyone say

that this program has one lick of oversight

if those two things are in existence?

ESTEVEZ: The rule of thumb is

one MRAP for a police department that requests an MRAP.

No more than one.

So I'd have to look at the incident

in Senator Coburn's state.

Uh, Mr. Estevez, in the NPR investigation

of the 1033 program,

they listed 12,000 bayonets had been given out.

What purpose are bayonets, being given out for?

Senator, bayonets are available under the program.

I can't answer what a local police force would need a bayonet for...

RAND PAUL: I can give you an answer. None.

In FEMA's authorized equipment list,

there's actually written descriptions for how the equipment should be used,

and it says it's specifically not supposed to be used for riot suppression.

Mr. Kamoie, uh,

is that true that it's not supposed to be used for riot suppression?

There's a prohibition in the authorized equipment list

that it's not to be used for riot suppression.

But many of the police forces actually think that this is what

the equipment would be good for is riot suppression

in a big city in an urban area

and you've specifically instructed that it's not for that.

CLAIRE McCASKILL: I want to make sure that the record is clear,

36% of the property issued is new and not used.

In other words, almost 40%

of what you are giving away

has never been used by the military.

What they said is it's in Condition Code A.

Condition Code A is like new.

Okay, well, I guarantee you the stuff you're giving away you're continuing to buy.

I guarantee it.

So tell me how that happens.

Senator, I'll have to go through...

McCASKILL: It's 36% of what you're giving away,

you have no idea what it is you're giving away that's new?

I'll have to go through the list, Senator,

and I'll be happy to take your question for the record on that.

McCASKILL: I want to make sure that the record is clear.

Do any of you now have any policy

that requires you to track any kind of usage data

for the equipment you're providing that is considered military grade?

Yes or no? No.

No.

McCASKILL: Not good.

(PROTESTERS MARCHING IN DISTANCE)

EZELL: Move in!

Threat!

Threat!

Threat!

All right, guys, let's go load up again.

EZELL: I would say 40% of the team is prior military.

We are preparing pretty much for any type of situation.

Of course, anything dealing with ISIS is a concern.

We do a lot of training with, uh, WMD,

weapons of mass destruction.

We do a lot of training in the event that we had a situation

like what they had, uh, in Missouri.

Any type of

unruly crowds that we would have to deal with on civil disturbance.

Move!

Move!

Move!

EZELL: Good job, guys.

Guys, listen!

We're moving up to a building, we're getting overwhelming firepower.

That's what it's gonna be like it.

Cover him, one person's moving.

We need to get up there as quick as possible.

And you could see how dynamic that was, right?

You guys did it in reverse.

Good job. Heart rate's up.

All right, we're getting ready to execute a search warrant.

Entry team, you'll take a direct approach to the house,

hit the front door and hold everything inside.

I have seen photos of the target with kids,

so I think he has kids,

but I haven't seen kids there,

haven't seen any kind of kid toys in the yard.

He is there right now.

Twenty to 30 minutes ago there were more players there.

So if anybody's there, they're all gonna be in the process.

We're gonna take them all down.

Anybody got any questions?

SWAT OFFICER: It's going to be right around this curve on the left-hand side.

It'll be an open field and then the target.

Right here.

Right here. Yeah, this is it.

Go!

SWAT TEAM: Don't move! Don't move!

Hands up! Hands up!

Lemme see your hands! Get down!

Hands up!

Hands up! Get down!

Lemme see your hands.

Go! Go! Go!

Hands up! Hands up!

Get down! Hands up!

Hands together like you're praying.

Hands together like you're praying, sir.

Police search!

Get up on that couch now!

Yeah, it's that serious.

Boy, that was sweet.

That was sweet.

Man, they were in there so fast.

It sounded like a flash bang running in there.

It's clear. It's clear.

There's got to be some guns here.

SWAT OFFICER 2: We've been to this house before.

Oh yeah, we go to the same houses.

Some of the doors, you'll see where we knocked it in the last time,

there'll still be the dent in the door.

Yeah, we do a lot.

Two hundred of these a year, easy.

It used to be we'd do three to four a day.

There was a book bag that was here,

it had a little bit of weed in it.

It was just loose bud.

You're gonna go to jail today for simple possession of marijuana, second offense.

Come over here for a minute. Come and talk back here.

You know you had a little bit of weed inside that book bag, right?

I'm not, I mean...

I'm not saying... I never one time said that you were a bad person.

I just got a job to do,

and you just happen to be in the middle of it, right?

You go to school, right? Yeah. Denmark Technical College.

What are you trying to do?

Building construction technology.

MAN: What are we gonna do about the damn windows man?

Sir?

I mean, can you do shit like that?

Yeah.

I mean we gotta pay for the fucking windows like that down there?

That's some shit there, man.

Did you have a question for me?

Yeah, I was asking what they going to do about the windows, man?

I mean, are we supposed to get the windows fixed?

They just blew the fucking window out, man?

It's a distractionary technique.

It's just what they did, they felt they needed to do it.

The moral of the story is don't sell drugs from the residence,

or don't have people... Don't allow...

I didn't actually say you were, I just said you're associated with it.

I can see that you would possibly have an affiliation.

Just from the stuff that I've seen.

If you were on the outside looking in maybe, right?

Do you want to leave those keys with them?

OFFENDER: Yeah, my keys and my money.

How much is this?

All right come over here.

Tell her to get... The Stihl weed eater.

You got him? OFFICER: Copy.

Nobody checked him. WOMAN: That's what I said.

That's like $1,000. WOMAN: I know.

He wants me to give it to that guy,

but I think we should seize it.

I think we should seize it, because it was found on his person.

Twenty, 40, 60...

I'm just going to put currency here.

It's out of his pocket. Somebody else want to count that?

I'll give him the change and the lighter.

Hey, this right here was in your son's pocket.

He had cash that's getting seized

but that's the remainder of the change that he had in his pocket.

He had some more money in his pocket, but it's getting taken.

We located a small amount of marijuana.

Just a small amount of marijuana, personal use it appeared to be.

And that's about it. It happens.

Drug warrants are, you know, 50/50.

That's why we search it.

WOMAN: I heard a big bam.

I thought somebody was gonna get robbed or something.

I didn't know what to expect.

The first thing I asked him,

"Ya'll looking for a terrorist? Ya'll think a terrorist in here?"

'Cause that's the kind of feeling that I had.

They were looking for something really strong, really important.

I mean...

Government stuff.

They tore down my house.

My son went to jail

for a gram and a half that they shook out the bottom of a book bag.

Wrong church, wrong people, wrong day...

Soon will be done, the trouble of this world.

Repeat after me.

Emmanuel.

Emmanuel.

Repeat after me.

Emmanuel.

Emmanuel.

Emmanuel.

God is with us.

What's that?

Uh, visiting with these six individuals...

And I've said this before.

When they describe

their youth and their childhood,

these are...

These are young people who

made mistakes that aren't that different

than the mistakes I made,

and the mistakes that a lot of you guys make.

The difference is they did not have

the kind of support structures,

the second chances,

the resources,

that would allow them to survive those mistakes.

And I think we have a tendency sometimes to

take for granted or think it's normal

that so many young people

end up in our criminal justice system.

It's not normal.

What is normal is

young people making mistakes.

That's what strikes me.

Justice for Mike Brown!

Justice for Mike Brown!

Justice for Mike Brown!

Justice for Mike Brown!

Justice for Mike Brown!

Justice for Mike Brown!

Give me a U! U!

Give me a S! S!

Give me a T! T!

You guys need to move up and down the sidewalk

one way or the other.

Come on...

Hands up, don't shoot!

Hands up, don't shoot!

OFFICER : You must remain on the sidewalk!

You must continue to move!

If you stop, you will be arrested!

Keep moving, sir!

Sir, keep moving!

Stop!

WOMAN: What is going on, what happened?

WOMAN: Yo, Rob! OFFICER: Off the street.

Respect us! Respect us!

Get out of the street!

Get out of the street!

Where's your badge number?

They don't have names, badges, nothing.

CROWD: United we stand, divided we fall!

United we stand, divided we fall!

United we stand, divided we fall!

United we stand, divided we fall!

MAN: I'm the boss, motherfucker.

I tell you what to do, you don't tell me.

I tell your ass to grow.

Grow!

SWAT OFFICER 1: We're getting ready to go do a search warrant.

This is supposed to be a stash house.

There's missing 16 pistols and three long guns still

from the burglary in Wintsville.

We'll recognize a lot of people that have been

in Ferguson protesting, as well,

and a lot of these guys all know each other,

so we're just worried that a lot of these guns will end up

on the streets down there,

and will be used against us.

SWAT OFFICER 2: We're waiting for the copy of the warrant.

SWAT OFFICER 3: Do you know how to get there?

No. All right.

So what I'll do is we'll pull it up on my phone,

on Carabella's phone. We'll pass our phones around.

That way, no telling how old the picture is.

We'll just work with what we have. Google Maps.

We're gonna do Google mapping.

Got any numbers anywhere?

Yeah, I can't confirm it though.

They're too blurry.

It's 5759 though, right?

No.

5957. Uh, dyslexia.

Hey Bruce, did you make it?

SWAT OFFICER 2: We'll be van correct, All right?

Carabella, one. Taylor's two. I'm three.

Poindexter's four. Dan Lemon, five, with the pry,

Callahan, six. Murphy, seven.

Brewster McCoy, ram and react, tack A.

SWAT OFFICER 1: Hey guys, this is supposed to be a stash house.

They say these guys store guns everywhere.

They find them in cereal boxes, false floors, in the walls.

They think that a lot of these are in the...

There's possibly a tote in the backyard.

First, Sarge, we're gonna knock right?

Knock first? Yes.

All right, we're 11 minutes away from the target house without traffic.

What a lovely morning.

Yeah, we're coming up.

SWAT OFFICER 2: If you look to your immediate left right there just...

Hey, there's a car right there out in front, the doors open.

Three on the porch, guys. Three in the garage.

Oh, boy, they're gonna have runners.

Open that door. Open that door all the way.

Hey, Sarge, pull all the way up to the white car.

Pull 'em down to bypass. Leave a guy on 'em, and go.

Yeah, three in the garage.

Three in the garage.

Get your hands up! County police!

County police! Get your hands up!

County police.

County police search warrant!

County Police search warrant!

Ah, my back.

Your back?

MAN: Oh, shit!

Hold on, hold on.

WOMAN: You can't do his body like that.

I'm trying to get him out of the rain.

Sarge, we're clear.

We're clear, Sarge.

SWAT OFFICER 1: Being the county police,

any municipality inside of St. Louis County

or any of the federal agencies can call us

and we'll come and execute the search warrants.

This is a...

A federal case, we just execute the search warrant,

clear the house and then

turn the scene over to them as soon as the house is clear.

MAN : Is it right to continue to kill African-American boys

and get no time?

Is it right to gun down

African-American males just because

someone had a fit and decided

that they wanted to continue to shoot?

MAN 2: We already know the verdict.

We knew the verdict yesterday.

The grand jury deliberated over two days,

making their final decision.

They determined that no probable cause exists

to file any charge against Officer Wilson

and returned a no-true bill

on each of the five indictments.

MAN : Residents of Ferguson, Missouri.

Get on to the sidewalk.

You need to get out of the street

or you will be subject to arrest.

Do it now.

Get onto the sidewalk!

Get on the sidewalk!

OFFICER: Stop trying to turn over the police vehicle immediately.

OFFICER: They're throwing it on?

MAN 1: I'm not even in the street, dick!

MAN 2: We ain't even in the street!

Get out of the car!

It's sad! You people!

It's just sad! You people!

All these people that live here!

We're still fucking dying! What are they going to eat now?

We're still fucking dying! So starve the babies?

Where are they going to get baby food?

Where are they gonna get milk?

I've known you for a long time, bro, a long time!

Since you were this big.

Ya'll still killing us!

Twenty-five years I've been here.

Twenty-five years years here, I've never killed a man!

All right, back up.

OFFICER : You need to return to your vehicles immediately.

OFFICER 2: Move, move!

Move!

I'm sitting out here right by my motherfucking house.

This is some bullshit out there, ya'll. Bullshit.

Come on.

I don't hate you, bro.

Come on.

You know the truth. I don't hate you though.

All right, brother.

I know families need to live.

Move, move!

Back up!

Back up!

MAN: Where do you want me to back up to? Back up!

What happened in Ferguson,

the actual practice of how the demonstrations were handled,

I think we're all embarrassed by it, quite frankly, in law enforcement.

I sat there aghast watching it.

You know, the simplest issue

of the use of tear gas.

In my book, if you fire tear gas, you've got a riot now.

You don't have a demonstration.

So...

I don't know if there's a uh...

I guess I have to be sensitive when I say this.

If there's a political gain

in some communities

for handling

different events in different fashions.

Uh, Danny Brown?

DANNY BROWN: What I want to say I did 19 years in prison

for a murder I didn't commit and I'm still fighting.

I've been out since 2001.

When I got out in 2001,

they were having riots right up here in Cincinnati

for that last police shooting.

Now we talk about the riots

that they had in Ferguson.

Well, shoot, when this country was started on riots,

when they felt they weren't getting justice.

You cannot keep treating people the same way.

You have to deal with your hiring practices,

who you putting in them uniforms,

because a badge is a powerful thing.

And sometimes it's like money,

it plays tricks on people's mind.

They think they're God.

And that's the truth, you know.

It's simple as that. Thank you, Mr. Brown.

Members of the Task Force,

in the near future

body cameras will be as commonplace in policing as sidearms,

handcuffs and portable radios.

As a police chief, I always feel

like I'm behind the curve when it comes to technology.

Today we're talking about body cameras,

tomorrow we'll be talking about something else.

Technology is moving at a pace where

laws can't keep up with it,

policies can't keep up with it.

License-plate readers,

most departments have that.

How long before facial-recognition software

is now applied and as you're driving down the street

you're scanning faces of people?

Just because you can do something

doesn't necessarily mean you should do it.

And we need to have these discussions upfront.

If a technology can implicate people's civil rights,

then it's something that we need to consider

quite carefully

before we simply fling it into the field.

SUSAN DelBENE: The FBI deployed aircraft over Ferguson last year

in response to request from local law enforcement.

Is that correct?

Yes, we've done it in Baltimore,

we did it in Ferguson, as I recall.

Does the FBI respond to these types of requests frequently?

The overwhelming use of our aircraft is

a pilot flies as part of an investigation

to help us follow a spy,

a terrorist or a criminal.

And sometimes, the best view of that is above.

ROSS McNUTT: I spent 20 years in the Air Force.

I built a system called "Angelfire"

that allowed us to watch the entire town of Fallujah,

for two years.

We could watch the whole city,

see where everyone came from and went to,

and that contributed significantly

to the reduction in violence in the city.

When I retired,

I basically said "You know this has a lot of applications.

"How do we make it affordable

"For a group the size of, like, Dayton, Ohio?"

Our imagery is processed onboard the aircraft,

made to look just like Google Earth,

downlinked in about three to five seconds,

and is available to be viewed by up to 50 people at once.

Literally, you could have the equivalent of a predator drone

for every analyst on the ground,

just not quite as high resolution.

If you're at the scene of a crime,

we draw a little circle around it.

We figure out "Here's the people that are within that range

"That may or may not be involved in it."

We'll track all of them and see what information we can find.

We're really just rolling this out in a more public way.

Traditionally, we've worked with small groups

in a quiet, secretive way

because that's what our customers wanted.

We've been operating in different cities

at different times, typically ones that are having significant crime problems.

In some of the cities,

we'll see 30 to 40 crimes a mission,

and then it's a question of how many

of them do we have time to investigate.

And again, as the city gets safer,

we'll actually be able to investigate

lower and lower level crimes.

This is an engineer's version of an eyeball

with the globe in the middle.

And it basically implies

that you know, "We're watching the whole world" type of thing.

We're not out to watch the whole world,

just all the world that's got crime.

Okay, what I'm engaged in is

forecasting what we call "malfeasance,"

which is various kinds of behavior

which may be illegal, but certainly undesirable.

You get background information

on an individual from an archival data-set,

and you push a button,

and you get a forecast.

Pretty good chance this a low-risk person,

almost no chance they're gonna commit a violent crime.

They may do some shoplifting or maybe some drug possession,

but chances are they're gonna be fine.

So here's another individual.

Bad guy.

Certain to be arrested for something,

most likely a violent crime,

but at least some other kind of crime.

If somebody is really unique,

this doesn't work.

But we all think we're unique and we're not.

So we have lots of commonalities.

And on the average, we can forecast pretty well.

There are concerns about these techniques

and they're legitimate.

Race, of course, is the most obvious one.

The obvious point is you really shouldn't be using somebody's race

to forecast whether or not they're going to commit a crime.

Well, it's a balance.

If it were to turn out that race is an important factor,

let's say in predicting homicides,

and race is associated with homicides.

People generally kill people like themselves.

Maybe you do want to use race.

If we don't use race,

you're gonna have an increase perhaps

in homicides you could have prevented.

How many deaths, five, ten, fifteen,

are you prepared to allow because

you won't allow me to use race?

OFFICER: Have you guys been watching Person of Interest?

You ever watch that?

It's some secret computer that one man has developed

that predicts crime before it happens.

Why not, you know?

Why not predict something?

If you have everything you need in the equation,

I don't see why it couldn't be predicted, at some point.

So...

Right now, the car that you're in,

we have a camera system,

and we also have a system where

it's a facial-recognition system,

license-plate recognition system.

It scans the streets

and it can look at a license plate and tell you

if that car is wanted for a crime.

Let's see if I can get it to do that here.

There you go.

So right there, all the different licenses,

and it scans, like that is that car right there.

And then also people on the street,

if they can get the face clearly,

facial recognition.

If that person has a warrant, wanted, that type of thing.

And if you're out in public, there's no expectation of privacy,

and that's the huge issue, people said,

"You can't just run my license plate for no reason."

Well, yes, we can.

You just hope that everybody who runs them

are running them for the right reason.

We are a 24/7 operation

providing support and information processing

for the entire department.

We also share our services

to the entire region and the federal government.

We're monitoring, for example, cameras.

We have about 1,000 cameras in the city of Los Angeles.

Additionally, we monitor all social media.

We have police officers who are going through

all the social media,

looking for key words

to find out if there's any incidents occurring,

any protests or anything that may affect the city.

I don't think it's going to be a phase

for technology in policing.

It's the way policing is going towards right now.

On this matter of forecasting criminal behavior,

among our set of individuals

who we're considering to release from prison,

we have Darth Vaders and Luke Skywalkers,

but we don't know which is which.

Anybody who has a hint of Darth Vader characteristics,

we call them a Darth Vader.

In contrast,

to call somebody a Luke Skywalker,

that requires really compelling evidence

because we want to be really...

How do I say this in an effective way?

We really want to be sure

that we catch all the Darth Vaders

and we're prepared to make some mistakes

on the Luke Skywalkers.

I can't breathe! I can't breathe!

I can't breathe!

I can't breathe!

I can't breathe!

I can't breathe!

I can't breathe!

I can't breathe!

I can't breathe!

RICHARD BERK: We've done some work with family-support services.

In essence, we're collecting information on the parents.

Sometimes those parents have no criminal record whatsoever,

but if we had information, for example,

about their drug histories,

about their educational circumstances,

about whether they're employed,

psychiatric problems, all sorts of things,

we might be able to forecast which kids are at risk

before they're born.

That'd be pretty neat.

We could also forecast perhaps before they're born

whether they're a high risk to commit a homicide by the age of 18.

I think that's all very doable

with the information that's out there.

My problem is, what do you tell a mother?

The child has not been born yet, and we say to her,

"Your kid has a 50/50 chance

"of committing a homicide by the age of 18."

I don't know what you do with that.

I don't know what she does with that.

With all technology,

we constantly are at these decision points where

it can be used for good or it can be used for bad.

This is just another example of that.

It's a little more scary because

it sort of fundamentally goes to so much of the way

we live and the way our societies work.

BERK: Right now drones are controlled by pilots,

but there's already technology in place

in which they're robotic and make their own decisions.

And we now have drones that can fly in formation.

And they can talk to one another.

And they can make decisions about whether

to fire a Hellfire missile or not.

Who makes that decision?

The computer can make it more quickly and more accurately

than you or I can.

So maybe we should let them decide?

Well, that's...

Now we're starting to move down the Terminator route, right?

We have robotic intelligence

that can destroy human life

when it thinks it's an appropriate thing to do.

Do you want to go there? I think it's inevitable because those sorts of

war machines are going to be more effective,

more powerful, more accurate

than what we currently now have.

I can't believe we're not gonna go there.

I don't know how as humans we're going to moderate

the bad things that can follow from that.

But it's inevitable.

It's already sort of there.

GROSSMAN: Ever heard the old saying, "It's gotta get worse before it gets better"?

Oh, it's gonna get worse, folks.

We are at war!

And you are the front-line troops in this war!

And folks, I want you to understand something.

When they come to murder the children,

the individuals who tried to disarm our cops

will be hunted down,

and across the nation they will be attacked,

they will be spit on,

they will be driven deep into their slimy little holes,

so they never come out again.

In the very near future,

the idiots trying to disarm our cops...

Folks, there ain't nobody in Mexico right now

complaining about militarization of police.

You understand?

There ain't nobody in Russia

complaining about militarization of police.

In the very near future, you will be vindicated.

The bad news,

the wolf is at the door, very bad times are coming.

Good news?

You have job security, yeah,

because the world desperately needs what you have to give.