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Hello?
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Kill you.
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By 79',
the East Area rapist moved south.
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In Goleta, Santa Barbara
we see the next attack.
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I know that it's
the same person.
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The killer's pleasure
was derived
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from raising the stakes.
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Michelle ultimately came up with
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the name Golden State Killer.
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It was her first
major piece of writing.
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That story exploded.
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I said that I would represent
that book,
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if she wanted to turn it
into one.
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The hope is that by
having greater public attention,
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the right person will
give the right tip.
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What was I thinking last night?
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I let myself get drunk
and fall into a trap...
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but with a married man
with children?
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I did not want that to happen.
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It's far from being
an isolated incident.
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Several thousand people
have died
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since the start of the troubles
between Protestant Unionists
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- and Roman Catholic...
- I live in this house
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with five troubled
men and women,
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providing a sort of counseling
role model type of support.
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...the latest in
a line of bomb attacks
on Northern Ireland towns.
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After about a month in Belfast,
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my boss's behavior changed
from calming any fears I had
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about potentially
dangerous scenarios...
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to something more serious.
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He talked wistfully
about managing bands in London,
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leopard skin pants,
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his perpetually aggrieved wife.
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I let him press against me.
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While I was alarmed
and distressed by his behavior,
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he was also my supervisor,
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and he had created it
so I was very dependent on him.
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I'm going home,
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or at least away from here.
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Again, good morning,
ladies and gentlemen.
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I'd like to welcome you
back on board flight...
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You hate me, right?
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- I'm sorry?
- No, I'm kidding. We're buds.
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But I'm the Vice President's
Chief of Staff.
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You know,
you came to see him directly,
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I didn't know
you were coming, so...
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Oh, I'm sorry...
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As a writer,
I know that the one thing
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you don't say to a friend
who's working on a book is,
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"How's the book going?"
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But I just wanted
to just check in
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and see how she was doing
and was she coming to the city
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any time soon,
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so I said, "Hey. How's it going?
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I really miss you."
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Then I see her note pop up.
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Writing your first book
is really hard.
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But she was great.
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And she was really hard-working.
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So I wasn't really that worried.
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As the months
and months went by,
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her deadline coming closer,
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she wasn't done
or really close to being done.
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Let me see if I have
anything else in here from her.
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I know that there were deadlines
that she missed.
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And I remember her being
very, very worried about that,
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and I'm like,
"Call your agent right now,
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and he will tell you,
everyone misses their deadline."
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The deadlines were things
she put on herself.
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You know,
"I want to be reliable.
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I want to be a professional."
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She was a perfectionist.
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And she was doing
two things at once.
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She was writing a book,
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and she was trying
to solve a case.
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The fact that these two things
were combined,
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that's not a typical
writing experience.
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Oh, here's one.
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Hi, Daniel...
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"...Santa Barbara Hotel.
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I left my hotel exactly twice."
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The writing is going well.
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I can turn in another
big batch of pages,
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but I personally feel
it's too soon to deliver it
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as a final manuscript.
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"And as I've told you
on a personal level,
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I can't continue at this pace
with this material.
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My gut says that I should
come to New York City soon..."
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...soon,
to meet with you and Jennifer.
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I can share with you guys
a few developments
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that are exciting.
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I do remember that last time
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when she was in New York
in December of 2015.
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Oh, hi.
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Thank you so much
for talking to me.
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This has been, uh...
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And I think
Michelle was a little nervous.
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So she came fully prepared.
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She had a presentation.
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She was, um,
had all the reasons lined up.
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Through various
twists and turns,
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pleas and persuasion,
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I'm being allowed to go down
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to the Orange County
Sheriff's Department
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and enter their EAR/ONS room,
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a room which apparently
hasn't been entered in years.
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It's an obvious opportunity
to help advance the case.
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She said this huge
treasure trove of files
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was going to be handed to her.
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And there was no way
she wasn't gonna go through it.
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I think we sort of went
back and forth
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and debated the pros and cons,
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but it pretty quickly
was clear that
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we all kinda thought,
like, yeah,
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give... you know, take the time.
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Okay, well, I will not take up
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any more of your time.
You... This has been awesome.
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It was partially the case,
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but it was also
partially Michelle
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and how she just enlisted people
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to her cause
and to her passion for it.
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In retrospect,
I... I wonder if she knew
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that she was a little consumed,
and that maybe...
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maybe part of her wanted
an artificial deadline
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to... to be set.
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But I was so curious about what
she was gonna find out next.
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You had this sense
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that you were going down
this dark corridor,
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and there were more
and more doors opening faster,
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and that she was gonna
get through the last one,
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like it was a matter of time.
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Six, five, four,
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three, two, one!
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Happy New Year!
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And good morning to you.
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The new year is upon us.
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Happy New Year to everyone.
Thanks for...
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- Now?
- Yeah.
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"When I was little,
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even young boys
were expected to work.
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- All least..."
- Also.
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"...Also loved animals."
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Feeling Xanaxy without a Xanax.
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When Michelle suggested
that we motorcade into Santa Ana
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in two separate SUVs
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with the expectation
that we would be leaving
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with the motherlode,
as we dubbed it,
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from the Orange County
Sheriff's Department,
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um, you know, I was skeptical.
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Law enforcement agencies
don't just let private citizens
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take what they want.
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I don't necessarily
think we'll be allowed
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to pull off my heist-like plan.
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But I'd like to be prepared
for the possibility.
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Honestly, I feel like
this is the best chance
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of solving the case.
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We met the homicide investigator
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who had inherited the case
from Larry Pool.
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And Michelle chatted with him
for about 40 minutes.
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And I could feel
the energy in the room shift
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from kinda
smug skepticism to awe.
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Then he led us to the box room.
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The unsolved section
of a property room
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is tainted with disappointment.
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Fringed purse.
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Embroidered tunic.
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Items from lives defined
by violent death.
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It's the to-do list
that's never done.
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Now, it seemed that the weather
in the property room,
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always an oppressive gray,
had lifted,
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and light beamed down
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on the monotony
of cardboard boxes.
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Everyone basked
in the possibilities.
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It was a heady feeling,
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the idea that one could reverse
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the flow of power.
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As we're loading
the Bankers boxes
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into the backs of the SUVs,
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the undersheriff appears.
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And he had no idea
what was unfolding.
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And Michelle was like, you know,
"Let... Let's pick up the pace
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and get out of here before
people change their minds."
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Dammit.
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It really felt like a heist.
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The problem
with a case like this is that
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there's very little
that has been known for sure
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about this offender.
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We knew that he's a white male
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born sometime
between 1940 and 1960.
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The height
seems pretty consistent.
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We knew that he was
roughly five-nine, five-ten...
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He's anywhere from
five-eight to maybe five-ten.
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The shoe size
is nine and a half.
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...and was
in the Sacramento area
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in the mid to late '70s.
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Everything else has just been
an unknown variable
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and a possible
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and the most significant
of those was Visalia.
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Hello. I'm Scott Devenney
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and for the next few minutes,
I invite you to visit
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one of America's
hardest working cities,
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as you discover Visalia.
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In the town of Visalia,
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there was this ransacker
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who I mean just down
to the strangest details
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totally mirrors
the... the East Area Rapist.
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If you look
at the Visalia cases,
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they're very much
things that he did
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in all his rape cases.
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He took trinkets
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that would be more
of something personal
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and close to a victim.
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There were many times
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where valuables
were left behind.
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And the burglaries are all...
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They have one earring
taken sometime...
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Just very specific things
that are very quirky.
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Both offenders used
the same specific phrase
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in phone calls they made
to victims,
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which was, um, "I'm going
to come over and fuck you."
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The Visalia Ransacker
was really into
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going through lingerie.
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He would take out and leave it
just sort of arrayed around.
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So, you know,
it could be a coincidence,
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it's a mighty coincidence though
if it's not him, I think.
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I never was
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a hundred percent
he wasn't Visalia
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or 100 percent he was.
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But these numerous burglaries
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and peepings
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and masturbation
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and just that type of behavior,
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I do think could have led
to his real fantasy,
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which was rape.
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And I also think
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that the only reason
he left Visalia
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is because, um,
Bill McGowen saw him.
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...where tennis shoe impressions
had been observed
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under the bedroom window.
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McGowen waited.
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A figure appeared
in the garage doorway
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and looked around.
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A chase ensued.
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But the suspect escaped.
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A month later, Detective McGowen
was hypnotized.
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Okay, um...
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The hypnotist quietly
encouraged McGowen to relax.
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Legs were uncrossed,
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fists unclenched,
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breathing deepened.
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When McGowen
fired a warning shot,
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the suspect gestured
in surrender.
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"Oh my God, don't hurt me,"
he squeaked
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in an oddly mannered,
high pitched voice.
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"See, my hands are up!"
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Remembering the moment
during hypnosis
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pulled McGowen
into a deeper trance.
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He fixated
on the face illuminated
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in the beam of his flashlight.
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"Baby, round,
261
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soft-looking baby.
262
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Doesn't even shave.
263
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Very light skin."
264
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McGowen started over the fence
to arrest him,
265
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but the Ransacker had raised
266
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only his right hand
in surrender.
267
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With his left hand,
268
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he withdrew
a blue steel revolver
269
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from his coat pocket.
270
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I fell down, uh, the...
The impact knocked me back
271
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and, uh...
272
00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:39,482
the, uh, projectile went
into the end of my flashlight,
273
00:18:39,565 --> 00:18:42,232
which is a Kel-Lite,
the big metal one,
274
00:18:42,315 --> 00:18:44,774
and, uh, it went through
several batteries
275
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and lodged in the back portion
of the flashlight.
276
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The Ransacker struck
as many as 130 times
277
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over a period
of less than two years.
278
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But once the composite sketch
based on Bill McGowen's run-in
279
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with the Ransacker
was released to local press,
280
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he never struck Visalia again.
281
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The EAR series began
in Sacramento
282
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just six months later.
283
00:19:21,107 --> 00:19:22,691
The article suggests a link
284
00:19:22,774 --> 00:19:26,607
between the East Area Rapist
and Visalia.
285
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But at the Sacramento
Sheriff's Department,
286
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the information
is branded as false
287
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and the Visalia
Police Department
288
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is being labeled
as irresponsible
289
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for suggesting that connection.
290
00:19:43,232 --> 00:19:46,315
I just don't put a lot
of stock in that composite.
291
00:19:46,399 --> 00:19:49,941
He was wearing a mask
and the guy was taking it off
292
00:19:50,023 --> 00:19:51,183
when he kind of shot at him.
293
00:19:51,232 --> 00:19:54,565
Well,
there's other burglary victims
294
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- that saw the Ransacker.
- Okay.
295
00:19:56,691 --> 00:19:58,041
And so they took that composite
296
00:19:58,065 --> 00:19:59,375
to those other victims
and they said,
297
00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:00,607
"Yeah, that's the guy I saw."
298
00:20:00,691 --> 00:20:02,166
So, it kind of gives
further credence
299
00:20:02,190 --> 00:20:04,399
- this was the Ransacker.
- I see. I see.
300
00:20:04,482 --> 00:20:06,649
Now, the very first EAR
301
00:20:06,732 --> 00:20:09,357
sees the EAR standing
in her doorway
302
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,857
and he's nude
from the waist down
303
00:20:10,941 --> 00:20:13,023
and she goes, "He's slim built."
304
00:20:13,107 --> 00:20:15,232
Broad-shouldered,
well-proportioned,
305
00:20:15,315 --> 00:20:16,440
but slim.
306
00:20:16,524 --> 00:20:20,190
So, six months
after Visalia Ransacker,
307
00:20:20,273 --> 00:20:23,732
- and now he's a skinny guy?
- Mm-hmm.
308
00:20:37,107 --> 00:20:39,107
There can only be
so many white males
309
00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:40,565
born between these years
310
00:20:40,649 --> 00:20:42,607
who have connections
to these towns,
311
00:20:42,691 --> 00:20:44,899
so really it is
kind of just get...
312
00:20:44,982 --> 00:20:47,023
Winnowing it down, you know.
313
00:20:49,524 --> 00:20:51,857
Have your feelings changed
over the years about sort of
314
00:20:51,941 --> 00:20:54,982
what brought him to all these
different places, work wise?
315
00:20:55,065 --> 00:20:56,232
What about real estate?
316
00:20:56,315 --> 00:20:57,999
Will you be surprised
if he doesn't have a record?
317
00:20:58,023 --> 00:20:59,232
I will.
318
00:20:59,315 --> 00:21:01,166
Do you feel like
he was thinking like a cop?
319
00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:02,958
I'm not sure if I'm reading
too much into that.
320
00:21:02,982 --> 00:21:05,083
I've heard that the whole
dishes thing was something
321
00:21:05,107 --> 00:21:07,023
that may have happened
in Vietnam,
322
00:21:07,107 --> 00:21:08,907
so I, you know, I'm not sure
he wasn't a vet
323
00:21:08,982 --> 00:21:11,065
- or something like that.
- Right. Wow.
324
00:21:11,148 --> 00:21:12,565
Yeah.
325
00:21:12,649 --> 00:21:14,065
One of the, um, things
326
00:21:14,148 --> 00:21:17,065
that the rape victims tell me
that he did a couple times
327
00:21:17,148 --> 00:21:18,774
which just is so weird to me,
328
00:21:18,857 --> 00:21:21,399
is after the rape
he would go into the corner
329
00:21:21,482 --> 00:21:23,500
- and start sobbing and, um...
- Yes.
330
00:21:23,524 --> 00:21:26,232
He would say,
"Bonnie is gonna hate me,"
331
00:21:26,315 --> 00:21:28,315
- or that type of thing.
- Yeah.
332
00:21:28,399 --> 00:21:31,065
That must have just been
some kind of thing with him.
333
00:21:31,148 --> 00:21:32,440
Yeah.
334
00:21:32,524 --> 00:21:35,004
And I don't even know
what that could be, but yeah.
335
00:21:40,857 --> 00:21:43,065
I read about a case every day
that's solved by DNA
336
00:21:43,148 --> 00:21:45,482
and it's just some guy
who just is living quietly
337
00:21:45,565 --> 00:21:47,232
for the last 25 years
of his life,
338
00:21:47,315 --> 00:21:49,732
he met some woman that liked him
and had ki...
339
00:21:49,816 --> 00:21:51,816
You know, I would...
I just won't be surprised
340
00:21:51,899 --> 00:21:55,107
if it turns out, um,
that he's compartmentalized
341
00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:56,816
this part of his life
or something.
342
00:22:02,023 --> 00:22:04,107
Oh, hey, Mish. It's Mary Rita.
343
00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:05,982
We're flying into LA so, um,
344
00:22:06,065 --> 00:22:07,941
wanted to see
if you guys were around.
345
00:22:08,023 --> 00:22:09,857
So just call me whenever.
346
00:22:09,941 --> 00:22:11,357
Thanks. Bye.
347
00:22:13,732 --> 00:22:15,482
In March, I took my two kids
348
00:22:15,565 --> 00:22:16,941
to LA for spring break.
349
00:22:17,023 --> 00:22:21,273
And she was so excited
that we were there.
350
00:22:21,357 --> 00:22:23,232
First, she got the 23andMe.
351
00:22:23,315 --> 00:22:25,399
She's talking about our DNA.
352
00:22:25,482 --> 00:22:27,732
And she was so excited.
And she's going through her...
353
00:22:27,816 --> 00:22:32,482
All the results and telling
my kids about everything.
354
00:22:32,565 --> 00:22:34,315
You guys know what 23andMe is?
355
00:22:34,399 --> 00:22:35,774
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
356
00:22:35,857 --> 00:22:37,315
I did it like four years ago.
357
00:22:37,399 --> 00:22:39,524
I get an email
about every week that says,
358
00:22:39,607 --> 00:22:42,148
"Hey, we found
your second cousin.
359
00:22:42,232 --> 00:22:43,399
We found..." whatever.
360
00:22:43,482 --> 00:22:46,524
The chances that someone
in his greater family are...
361
00:22:46,607 --> 00:22:48,941
Is in 23andMe is pretty high.
362
00:22:50,273 --> 00:22:51,941
So, she started
to talk about the case,
363
00:22:52,023 --> 00:22:54,482
and she said, "You guys want
to see the boxes?"
364
00:22:59,107 --> 00:23:01,857
She just poured out all these...
365
00:23:01,941 --> 00:23:03,315
details about the case
366
00:23:03,399 --> 00:23:06,273
and how excited she was,
367
00:23:06,357 --> 00:23:09,899
and all you did was hope
that she could solve it.
368
00:23:16,482 --> 00:23:20,649
I remember her
slowing down the writing,
369
00:23:20,732 --> 00:23:22,565
because she couldn't write
370
00:23:22,649 --> 00:23:25,440
until she went through
all of this stuff.
371
00:23:28,524 --> 00:23:31,357
And I'm not sure
if I heard from her again
372
00:23:32,273 --> 00:23:33,357
after that.
373
00:23:35,482 --> 00:23:40,482
Every available hour
from late January of 2016
374
00:23:40,565 --> 00:23:43,565
until April 21, 2016, was spent
375
00:23:43,649 --> 00:23:47,649
reviewing or interacting with
our new acquisition.
376
00:23:47,732 --> 00:23:50,107
The motherlode.
377
00:23:50,190 --> 00:23:53,440
It's beyond
a treasure trove of info.
378
00:23:53,524 --> 00:23:56,607
I have to think there's at least
an 80 percent chance
379
00:23:56,691 --> 00:23:59,399
his name is buried
in here somewhere.
380
00:23:59,482 --> 00:24:01,065
We were following ideas
381
00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:04,232
and suspects
and theories and leads
382
00:24:04,315 --> 00:24:06,315
or, uh, she would spot something
383
00:24:06,399 --> 00:24:08,399
that wasn't
thoroughly investigated
384
00:24:08,482 --> 00:24:09,857
or not followed up on.
385
00:24:12,315 --> 00:24:13,732
There was material in there
386
00:24:13,816 --> 00:24:16,691
that us other investigators
had never seen.
387
00:24:17,982 --> 00:24:21,607
And so,
as she came across material
388
00:24:21,691 --> 00:24:24,357
that she thought was relevant,
she did share that.
389
00:24:36,899 --> 00:24:40,023
So now,
I'm looking at who this guy is.
390
00:24:49,273 --> 00:24:51,774
And I told Michelle,
"Yeah, you know, right now,
391
00:24:51,857 --> 00:24:55,107
I can't eliminate him, at all."
392
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:57,565
So, Michelle was saying,
"We gotta get his DNA."
393
00:24:57,649 --> 00:24:59,065
I was like, "Absolutely."
394
00:25:08,565 --> 00:25:09,805
I can't even tell you,
395
00:25:09,857 --> 00:25:12,857
when you see something
that you're looking for,
396
00:25:12,941 --> 00:25:16,148
how far down
the rabbit hole you go.
397
00:25:16,232 --> 00:25:18,691
I mean, I can't believe
some of the things I've done,
398
00:25:18,774 --> 00:25:20,899
to tell you the truth.
399
00:25:26,607 --> 00:25:28,208
Have you ever
interacted with anyone
400
00:25:28,232 --> 00:25:29,667
that you thought
might be a suspect, like...?
401
00:25:29,691 --> 00:25:32,691
Yes, I actually got DNA
on the suspect.
402
00:25:32,774 --> 00:25:34,440
You... You yourself did?
403
00:25:34,524 --> 00:25:36,524
Yes, and I know the suspect.
404
00:25:36,607 --> 00:25:37,691
Oh my gosh.
405
00:25:37,774 --> 00:25:38,999
'Cause he was someone who, like,
406
00:25:39,023 --> 00:25:40,541
you went to high school with
or something?
407
00:25:40,565 --> 00:25:42,607
- I dated him.
- Wow.
408
00:25:44,732 --> 00:25:46,148
I happened to know a guy
409
00:25:46,232 --> 00:25:48,148
who was on the suspect list
410
00:25:48,232 --> 00:25:51,107
and I talked him into coming
into Sacramento.
411
00:25:52,732 --> 00:25:54,190
And so we have lunch.
412
00:25:54,273 --> 00:25:56,357
I'm thinking I'm gonna
bag the silverware,
413
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,357
but I'm like,
I can't get the silverware
414
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,607
without him seeing me.
415
00:26:00,691 --> 00:26:03,774
So, I say, "Well, why don't you
let me drive you home?"
416
00:26:05,941 --> 00:26:08,899
And so, I put him in the car,
and he had a bottle of water.
417
00:26:08,982 --> 00:26:11,607
And I go, "Can I have
the last sip of that water?"
418
00:26:11,691 --> 00:26:13,065
And I took it and kept it
419
00:26:13,148 --> 00:26:15,857
and turned it in
to be DNA tested.
420
00:26:15,941 --> 00:26:19,649
Wow.
Did he live in any of the areas?
421
00:26:21,691 --> 00:26:23,315
Oh, my gosh!
422
00:26:25,649 --> 00:26:26,941
Um...
423
00:26:29,691 --> 00:26:31,732
Yeah, I spend
three to four hours a day
424
00:26:31,816 --> 00:26:33,440
on this case.
425
00:26:33,524 --> 00:26:35,232
- I have five kids.
- Right.
426
00:26:35,315 --> 00:26:37,524
My sixth grandchild
is due any second,
427
00:26:37,607 --> 00:26:40,399
and, um, I mean,
I just have a really full life,
428
00:26:40,482 --> 00:26:42,649
but I'm consumed with this case.
429
00:26:45,941 --> 00:26:47,816
I've had an uneasy realization
430
00:26:47,899 --> 00:26:50,148
about how our frenetic searching
431
00:26:50,232 --> 00:26:54,482
mirrors the compulsive behavior
of the one we seek.
432
00:26:55,399 --> 00:26:57,440
The trampled flower beds.
433
00:26:57,524 --> 00:27:00,107
Scratch marks on window screens.
434
00:27:00,190 --> 00:27:02,440
Crank calls.
435
00:27:02,524 --> 00:27:05,524
We glimpse the rough outline
of what we seek,
436
00:27:05,607 --> 00:27:07,482
and we get snagged on it,
437
00:27:07,565 --> 00:27:09,565
sometimes remaining stuck
438
00:27:09,649 --> 00:27:12,023
when we could get free
and move on.
439
00:27:16,482 --> 00:27:17,875
- My song...
- Wait, wait, wait.
440
00:27:17,899 --> 00:27:18,774
One, two, three.
441
00:27:18,857 --> 00:27:21,357
This is my song
that I want to show you.
442
00:27:22,482 --> 00:27:25,065
That I learned from, uh...
443
00:27:42,565 --> 00:27:44,482
Wow.
444
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,190
Hey, Michelle. How are you?
445
00:28:46,273 --> 00:28:48,982
I wanted to just go over
the placement of the tree
446
00:28:49,065 --> 00:28:51,148
in the rear portion of the yard.
447
00:28:51,232 --> 00:28:53,232
Hey, Michelle.
I wanted to talk to you
448
00:28:53,315 --> 00:28:55,065
about the pool basically.
449
00:28:55,148 --> 00:28:58,273
It's discharging water
over to the property behind you.
450
00:28:58,357 --> 00:28:59,625
Hey, it's Patton.
451
00:28:59,649 --> 00:29:01,190
Alice got off to school okay.
452
00:29:01,273 --> 00:29:02,649
Thank you for, uh, helping.
453
00:29:02,732 --> 00:29:04,452
Good morning,
Michelle. It's Mel.
454
00:29:04,524 --> 00:29:05,732
I believe it was number 21.
455
00:29:05,816 --> 00:29:07,541
Hi, Michelle.
Investigator Larry Pool.
456
00:29:07,565 --> 00:29:08,958
There's nothing there to hide.
457
00:29:08,982 --> 00:29:10,958
I understand you want to speak
with me about Janelle Cruz.
458
00:29:10,982 --> 00:29:12,899
Uh, more than happy
to speak with you.
459
00:29:12,982 --> 00:29:14,857
I'll, uh, I'll try again later.
460
00:29:14,941 --> 00:29:17,982
Probably about ten o'clock
your time. Thank you. Goodbye.
461
00:29:27,565 --> 00:29:29,357
The killer's last known victim
462
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,273
was an 18-year-old young woman
in Irvine
463
00:29:32,357 --> 00:29:34,440
named Janelle Cruz.
464
00:29:35,649 --> 00:29:37,816
That was in 1986.
465
00:29:49,857 --> 00:29:53,023
Yeah. It's hard to figure out.
466
00:29:56,065 --> 00:30:00,857
The Janelle Cruz case
was very interesting to us.
467
00:30:01,607 --> 00:30:03,273
You know, being 18 years old
468
00:30:03,357 --> 00:30:06,565
and just so innocent
and so young.
469
00:30:07,899 --> 00:30:09,941
Janelle!
470
00:30:10,023 --> 00:30:11,899
She... You know,
I was a teenager
471
00:30:11,982 --> 00:30:14,107
- around the same time.
- Say something!
472
00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:17,273
And I... I'd just... even looking
at her hairstyles and stuff,
473
00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:18,941
it's very familiar to me.
474
00:30:19,691 --> 00:30:22,148
Walk to me, Janelle.
475
00:30:22,232 --> 00:30:24,190
The brief life of Janelle Cruz
476
00:30:24,273 --> 00:30:26,607
was no less tragic
than her death.
477
00:30:28,065 --> 00:30:31,440
Her biological father
was long out of the picture.
478
00:30:31,524 --> 00:30:35,357
When she was 15,
she was drugged and raped.
479
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,899
The crime went unreported.
480
00:30:41,524 --> 00:30:45,816
On May 3rd, 1986,
her mother and stepfather
481
00:30:45,899 --> 00:30:48,399
left for a vacation to Cancun.
482
00:30:49,482 --> 00:30:52,107
The following evening,
a teenage coworker
483
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:54,357
hung out with Janelle
after she told him
484
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,232
she was lonely
with her parents out of town.
485
00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:02,315
A noise outside startled them.
486
00:31:03,941 --> 00:31:07,107
Janelle looked out her window
and closed the shutters.
487
00:31:08,482 --> 00:31:10,148
"I think it's just the cats."
488
00:31:12,691 --> 00:31:15,774
The workmate left
a short time later.
489
00:31:19,774 --> 00:31:21,440
In the Janelle Cruz case,
490
00:31:21,524 --> 00:31:24,941
relative to the previous cases,
there's a lot of similarities.
491
00:31:29,732 --> 00:31:31,357
And it appears that he,
of course,
492
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,023
is going through the backyard.
493
00:31:33,107 --> 00:31:35,857
He picked up the weapon,
likely a monkey wrench
494
00:31:35,941 --> 00:31:38,649
that was present
in the backyard.
495
00:31:38,732 --> 00:31:40,774
He's able to get inside...
496
00:31:43,565 --> 00:31:47,315
and then he binds her up
and she's raped
497
00:31:47,399 --> 00:31:49,107
and then she's bludgeoned.
498
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,232
It's important to point out
499
00:32:01,315 --> 00:32:03,524
that when he attacks
Janelle Cruz,
500
00:32:03,607 --> 00:32:06,357
the Golden State Killer's
previous attack
501
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,607
was five years earlier
502
00:32:08,691 --> 00:32:10,774
in July of 1981.
503
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:19,232
Knowing what I know
about this man,
504
00:32:19,315 --> 00:32:21,857
if I had a gun,
I definitely would shoot him.
505
00:32:21,941 --> 00:32:23,565
And I would not shoot to injure,
506
00:32:23,649 --> 00:32:26,232
I would shoot
to take care of him.
507
00:32:26,315 --> 00:32:28,440
I believe that he wants to kill,
508
00:32:28,524 --> 00:32:30,190
and he will kill.
509
00:32:32,273 --> 00:32:34,399
The interesting thing
about Janelle's case
510
00:32:34,482 --> 00:32:37,023
is the gap between '81 and '86.
511
00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:43,107
He obviously was stopping
for whatever reason.
512
00:32:44,774 --> 00:32:46,107
It wasn't just
that he saw Janelle
513
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:47,333
and was like,
"I'm gonna kill her."
514
00:32:47,357 --> 00:32:48,957
I think there was a combination
of, like,
515
00:32:48,982 --> 00:32:50,482
she was gonna be
his next victim,
516
00:32:50,565 --> 00:32:53,774
and I think it must've been some
sort of precipitating stressor,
517
00:32:53,857 --> 00:32:55,816
and who knows what that was.
518
00:32:55,899 --> 00:32:58,524
Maybe he just got kicked out
of his house or something,
519
00:32:58,607 --> 00:33:00,232
you know, lost his job.
520
00:33:00,315 --> 00:33:04,357
He was just obviously
very, very angry.
521
00:33:06,816 --> 00:33:11,399
And, yeah, it's just...
It's... it's... it's just a very,
522
00:33:12,148 --> 00:33:14,399
very sad story, and, um...
523
00:33:14,482 --> 00:33:19,065
and you can just only hope
that somehow, in her life...
524
00:33:19,148 --> 00:33:22,315
Like in that time period
around when she died,
525
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:24,107
maybe there is a clue
of, you know,
526
00:33:24,190 --> 00:33:26,273
maybe she...
Something she said or...
527
00:33:26,357 --> 00:33:28,857
So, you know, looking
into her life in that way
528
00:33:28,941 --> 00:33:30,565
is interesting to me, yeah.
529
00:33:33,899 --> 00:33:36,232
Have you seen the,
um, the interview
530
00:33:36,315 --> 00:33:38,232
that... with Janelle's mom?
531
00:33:38,315 --> 00:33:40,899
I mean, she kind of talks,
stream of consciousness
532
00:33:40,982 --> 00:33:42,232
in a way that I thought,
533
00:33:42,315 --> 00:33:44,899
"Someone who is an investigator
should listen to this."
534
00:33:47,273 --> 00:33:49,357
- Janelle...
- MICHELLE:
535
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,691
...was kind of a shy girl.
536
00:33:51,774 --> 00:33:54,357
She was very pretty,
very popular.
537
00:33:55,399 --> 00:33:56,691
But at the same...
538
00:33:57,941 --> 00:34:00,899
Anyway, uh, this one night
I let her stay overnight
539
00:34:00,982 --> 00:34:03,232
at her girlfriend's house.
540
00:34:03,315 --> 00:34:07,440
She came home the next day,
cr... uh, crying and...
541
00:34:07,524 --> 00:34:09,982
And she wouldn't tell me why
right away,
542
00:34:10,065 --> 00:34:15,107
but the man, the father
of the young girl,
543
00:34:15,816 --> 00:34:18,232
uh, raped her.
544
00:34:33,357 --> 00:34:34,691
Right. Right. Yeah.
545
00:34:38,816 --> 00:34:40,616
- They... They...
- No, but I mean...
546
00:34:41,065 --> 00:34:42,941
Yeah. Oh, they...
547
00:34:43,023 --> 00:34:44,863
- Yeah, I mean...
- No, I...
548
00:34:45,482 --> 00:34:46,649
I had a similar...
549
00:34:49,482 --> 00:34:50,649
Mm-hmm.
550
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,107
I catch myself in urban mirrors,
551
00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:14,148
store windows,
the smudged glass on the train.
552
00:35:15,107 --> 00:35:17,941
Each time, I look dazed,
553
00:35:18,023 --> 00:35:19,732
slightly wide-eyed,
554
00:35:19,816 --> 00:35:23,816
as if I'm seeing something
unbelievable for the first time.
555
00:35:34,607 --> 00:35:36,857
The neediness
of his stubby fingers
556
00:35:36,941 --> 00:35:39,023
digging inside me.
557
00:35:39,107 --> 00:35:41,190
The scene in Linen Hall Library,
558
00:35:41,273 --> 00:35:43,816
burning eyes staring at me.
559
00:36:13,524 --> 00:36:17,982
The conversation with Mom
and Dad really tore me apart.
560
00:36:18,065 --> 00:36:21,941
I know they care immensely
and want what's best for me.
561
00:36:22,023 --> 00:36:23,399
I just think sometimes,
562
00:36:23,482 --> 00:36:26,232
they don't know
what's going on inside me.
563
00:36:30,023 --> 00:36:31,982
I'm so angry, and then I'm not.
564
00:36:32,065 --> 00:36:35,357
I'm so sad
and full of self-doubt,
565
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,357
and then I'm not.
566
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,649
Where...
Where can this all lead?
567
00:36:57,816 --> 00:36:59,607
A year and a few months past,
568
00:36:59,691 --> 00:37:03,399
uh, the attack,
we had sold the house.
569
00:37:03,482 --> 00:37:06,982
And we decided to get married
in the backyard of...
570
00:37:07,065 --> 00:37:10,774
Of the new house
when the landscaping was put in.
571
00:37:12,357 --> 00:37:14,232
So, we just had a small wedding,
572
00:37:14,315 --> 00:37:19,065
with just a few close family
and friends.
573
00:37:23,315 --> 00:37:27,232
Bob is huge on moving forward
and moving on.
574
00:37:27,315 --> 00:37:30,899
And that was good for me
to have somebody to grab my hand
575
00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:32,982
and say
we were gonna move forward,
576
00:37:33,065 --> 00:37:34,941
and we were gonna move past this
577
00:37:35,023 --> 00:37:39,148
and we were not gonna let it
destroy our life.
578
00:37:43,649 --> 00:37:47,649
On the other hand,
I actually had been suffering
579
00:37:47,732 --> 00:37:50,273
a lot of post-traumatic
stress symptoms.
580
00:37:51,482 --> 00:37:54,982
I just was afraid
and exhausted all the time,
581
00:37:56,524 --> 00:38:00,565
but I wasn't formally diagnosed
for about six years.
582
00:38:02,273 --> 00:38:04,065
And the psychiatrist said,
583
00:38:04,148 --> 00:38:07,148
you know,
my central nervous system has...
584
00:38:07,232 --> 00:38:10,232
Has been rewired
because of the trauma
585
00:38:10,315 --> 00:38:12,899
that I experienced
during those hours.
586
00:38:39,482 --> 00:38:42,732
You don't live your life
the same way again, ever.
587
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Um...
588
00:38:47,524 --> 00:38:50,107
you know, I'm sure you've had
your times of depression,
589
00:38:50,190 --> 00:38:53,649
but you handle it
much better than me.
590
00:38:53,732 --> 00:38:56,315
I wouldn't say that.
I just handle it differently.
591
00:38:56,399 --> 00:38:58,565
I remember in a mediation,
592
00:38:59,816 --> 00:39:02,065
a... a attorney called
my client a liar,
593
00:39:02,148 --> 00:39:05,565
and it was in a court mediation
and I just flipped out.
594
00:39:05,649 --> 00:39:07,774
I just stood up and pinned
the guy against the wall.
595
00:39:09,148 --> 00:39:13,315
I guess, then I was in...
I felt maybe I was in control.
596
00:39:13,399 --> 00:39:15,607
But when you think
about what she went through,
597
00:39:15,691 --> 00:39:17,899
she went through
a lot more than I went through
598
00:39:17,982 --> 00:39:19,422
and then it's...
Uh, but the bad part
599
00:39:19,482 --> 00:39:21,357
is I could do nothing about it,
you know.
600
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,190
That's the...
That's the only thing.
601
00:39:23,273 --> 00:39:24,315
That's...
602
00:39:26,232 --> 00:39:27,857
But I still think about it,
you know.
603
00:39:27,941 --> 00:39:29,899
You know, you want
to protect your wife,
604
00:39:29,982 --> 00:39:32,774
you want to protect your kids,
but sometimes you can't.
605
00:39:34,148 --> 00:39:36,982
Well, for, you know...
You may have those feelings,
606
00:39:37,065 --> 00:39:40,524
but in the past 40 years,
you've more than made up...
607
00:39:40,607 --> 00:39:45,607
...for... for taking,
you know, extra care of me
608
00:39:45,691 --> 00:39:50,941
at times when I'm sure other men
probably would've walked away.
609
00:39:54,273 --> 00:39:55,440
So...
610
00:40:01,524 --> 00:40:04,190
You learn to live
with these things
611
00:40:04,273 --> 00:40:08,357
just like you learn to live
with the loss of a loved one,
612
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,691
and you pass through stages
and hopefully you recover.
613
00:40:12,774 --> 00:40:15,190
And you become
a fully functioning human being
614
00:40:15,273 --> 00:40:16,649
with a happy life.
615
00:40:18,232 --> 00:40:20,691
I mean, I wanted
to be super wealthy one day
616
00:40:20,774 --> 00:40:23,315
and she wanted to be the top
of a construction company
617
00:40:23,399 --> 00:40:26,232
and we just decided
that we could start a family
618
00:40:26,315 --> 00:40:27,995
and, you know,
take a different approach.
619
00:40:29,065 --> 00:40:33,691
So we dialed back
and I stayed home ten years.
620
00:40:36,691 --> 00:40:40,315
So, we started out with one,
and it grew to three.
621
00:40:40,399 --> 00:40:43,357
And finally, to four.
Family of six.
622
00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:47,982
And, uh, all the kids
623
00:40:48,065 --> 00:40:50,857
have brought
great gifts to our lives.
624
00:40:59,691 --> 00:41:02,065
Happy birthday, sweet sister.
625
00:41:02,148 --> 00:41:03,941
I hope you're having a good day.
626
00:41:04,023 --> 00:41:05,857
Hey, Mish. It's Margo.
627
00:41:05,941 --> 00:41:08,232
Calling to wish you
a very happy birthday.
628
00:41:08,315 --> 00:41:10,190
I love ya.
Hope everything's going well.
629
00:41:10,273 --> 00:41:11,999
Hey,
Aunt Michelle. It's Patrick.
630
00:41:12,023 --> 00:41:14,148
I just wanted to say
happy birthday to you.
631
00:41:14,232 --> 00:41:16,440
Happy birthday, beautiful.
632
00:41:16,524 --> 00:41:18,107
And I hope you're having
a great night
633
00:41:18,190 --> 00:41:20,357
doing something fun
with your family.
634
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,440
I love you
very, very, very much.
635
00:41:22,524 --> 00:41:24,273
Bye, baby.
636
00:42:13,732 --> 00:42:15,816
Look, see, she knows
what she's talking about.
637
00:42:15,899 --> 00:42:17,524
She... wait. She don't know.
638
00:42:17,607 --> 00:42:20,023
No, no, no.
He looks nervous and scared.
639
00:42:20,107 --> 00:42:21,440
Yeah. And he's like...
640
00:42:21,524 --> 00:42:24,691
She was still
very much a mom and a wife
641
00:42:24,774 --> 00:42:25,941
and a friend.
642
00:42:32,649 --> 00:42:35,440
But the further
she got into this,
643
00:42:35,524 --> 00:42:39,440
it was clear that she had
a real shot at solving this.
644
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:44,565
Hi, Mom. Call you later.
645
00:42:44,649 --> 00:42:47,691
Little Dom's
and old police files.
646
00:42:47,774 --> 00:42:49,899
Miss you guys so much.
647
00:42:49,982 --> 00:42:52,315
Remember to tell Alice
Mommy loves her
648
00:42:52,399 --> 00:42:54,565
and can't wait to be finished
with her book,
649
00:42:54,649 --> 00:42:57,982
so that I can be with her more
than she'll ever want me to be.
650
00:43:01,190 --> 00:43:02,857
That can really pull you
651
00:43:02,941 --> 00:43:05,649
into some depths that you can't
get yourself back out of.
652
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,440
Holy mother of God.
653
00:43:18,691 --> 00:43:22,315
I came across a shitload
of photos in my boxes.
654
00:43:23,315 --> 00:43:25,440
A whole shoebox full.
655
00:43:26,899 --> 00:43:28,649
Fucking monster.
656
00:43:30,190 --> 00:43:33,023
I'd never seen
the Smith scene in Ventura.
657
00:43:33,857 --> 00:43:35,023
Bludgeoned with a log
658
00:43:35,107 --> 00:43:37,691
from firewood pile
outside house.
659
00:43:38,524 --> 00:43:40,065
Bark everywhere.
660
00:43:42,524 --> 00:43:44,524
But I will say,
crime scene wise,
661
00:43:44,607 --> 00:43:49,524
there is something very striking
about how eerily similar
662
00:43:49,607 --> 00:43:51,691
the individual crime scenes are.
663
00:43:59,732 --> 00:44:01,982
There's something so, um...
664
00:44:03,607 --> 00:44:05,941
uh, I can't... I wish
I could articulate it,
665
00:44:06,023 --> 00:44:09,691
the way he... he walks
around people's houses
666
00:44:11,524 --> 00:44:14,023
and the way he destroys them.
667
00:44:15,065 --> 00:44:17,691
And sort of hangs out and eats.
668
00:44:19,941 --> 00:44:22,440
That's why I just don't think
this is like pure sexual sadism.
669
00:44:22,524 --> 00:44:24,148
I think
there was something else,
670
00:44:24,232 --> 00:44:26,732
you know,
going on there psychologically.
671
00:44:37,565 --> 00:44:43,482
It's so, um, king... "I am king"
and how, you know, this is...
672
00:44:43,565 --> 00:44:46,399
He just... it's so...
It's so unusual to have someone
673
00:44:46,482 --> 00:44:49,065
who just actually wants
to ruin your home,
674
00:44:49,148 --> 00:44:51,482
where it's like so...
It's like he got
675
00:44:51,565 --> 00:44:53,899
to the emotional center
of people's lives
676
00:44:54,023 --> 00:44:56,440
and just wanted to destroy that.
677
00:45:00,107 --> 00:45:03,065
Hey, it's, uh, it's Patton.
678
00:45:03,148 --> 00:45:05,607
Try to call me in, like,
uh, ten minutes
679
00:45:05,691 --> 00:45:07,774
'cause I'm kinda
falling asleep here.
680
00:45:07,857 --> 00:45:09,440
I'd love to talk to you.
681
00:45:24,941 --> 00:45:27,982
It was a lot
of sleeplessness and insomnia.
682
00:45:28,065 --> 00:45:30,190
There must have been days
where she was, like,
683
00:45:30,273 --> 00:45:31,625
"I'll take Adderall
in the morning.
684
00:45:31,649 --> 00:45:33,816
I'll take, you know, Xanax
and Vicodin to get to sleep
685
00:45:33,899 --> 00:45:35,691
because I'm...
This is for a better...
686
00:45:35,774 --> 00:45:37,816
This is for a bigger purpose
than me."
687
00:45:41,148 --> 00:45:43,399
But if you wanna
just run through, I...
688
00:45:43,482 --> 00:45:46,124
- I don't mind.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, totally. Yeah.
689
00:45:46,148 --> 00:45:48,607
So, uh, the night before
690
00:45:48,691 --> 00:45:50,232
CSI released the house...
691
00:45:50,315 --> 00:45:51,565
Mm-hmm.
692
00:45:51,649 --> 00:45:54,607
...I really wasn't allowed
to get anywhere near it.
693
00:45:54,691 --> 00:45:55,816
Right.
694
00:45:59,107 --> 00:46:00,482
Um, they called and said, "Okay,
695
00:46:00,565 --> 00:46:01,917
you know,
we're releasing the home,
696
00:46:01,941 --> 00:46:06,107
so now you guys can go in
and... and basically clean up.
697
00:46:06,190 --> 00:46:08,816
Because at the time,
they didn't have companies
698
00:46:08,899 --> 00:46:10,732
that specialized in crime scenes
699
00:46:10,816 --> 00:46:13,607
and... and biohazard things
and things like that.
700
00:46:13,691 --> 00:46:16,273
And I felt a responsibility
to my brother
701
00:46:16,357 --> 00:46:19,273
to make this crime scene
no longer a crime scene.
702
00:46:19,357 --> 00:46:21,148
Let's turn it back into a home.
703
00:46:23,482 --> 00:46:25,482
And, uh...
704
00:46:27,816 --> 00:46:29,023
Oh, wow.
705
00:46:35,982 --> 00:46:38,273
We went into the bedroom
and took a look around,
706
00:46:38,357 --> 00:46:40,941
and it wasn't a pretty sight.
707
00:46:41,023 --> 00:46:42,649
You know,
it's not the kinda thing
708
00:46:42,732 --> 00:46:44,816
you want to remember
if you don't have to.
709
00:46:48,524 --> 00:46:50,524
He had a very intricate
brass bed,
710
00:46:50,607 --> 00:46:54,107
which took a long time to clean
because there was,
711
00:46:54,190 --> 00:46:56,565
you know,
blood spatter everywhere.
712
00:46:56,649 --> 00:46:59,899
And on the carpet
and the wall behind it.
713
00:47:11,732 --> 00:47:12,857
Mm-hmm.
714
00:47:12,941 --> 00:47:15,482
And we cleaned it up
as well as we could.
715
00:47:15,565 --> 00:47:17,485
And this is before
David has seen it.
716
00:47:17,565 --> 00:47:20,565
So, yeah, you're protecting
him from it, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
717
00:47:24,732 --> 00:47:26,482
When we finally left the house
718
00:47:26,565 --> 00:47:28,732
and everything was done,
719
00:47:28,816 --> 00:47:32,148
the autopilot was almost
turned off, if that makes sense.
720
00:47:32,232 --> 00:47:36,190
And the rush of emotion,
it just overwhelmed me.
721
00:47:38,732 --> 00:47:42,148
My thoughts were of my brother
and of my sister-in-law.
722
00:47:43,732 --> 00:47:46,148
And I have no idea why,
to this day I don't,
723
00:47:46,232 --> 00:47:48,899
but at that very moment,
I mourned for my dad.
724
00:47:58,941 --> 00:48:01,148
Wow. Oh, my gosh.
725
00:48:03,524 --> 00:48:05,607
- And he...
- MICHELLE:
726
00:48:05,691 --> 00:48:07,333
You know, it's one
of those things, and I...
727
00:48:07,357 --> 00:48:08,982
It's hard to say.
We really don't know.
728
00:48:09,065 --> 00:48:10,500
- Yeah, yeah.
- But, um,
729
00:48:10,524 --> 00:48:13,774
it kinda all hit us
like a ton of bricks, obviously.
730
00:48:26,482 --> 00:48:28,322
- Yeah.
- He says, come here...
731
00:48:28,899 --> 00:48:30,691
Right.
732
00:48:33,107 --> 00:48:35,816
- Oh. Oh, Drew. Gosh.
- And so...
733
00:48:37,148 --> 00:48:38,607
Oh, my God.
734
00:48:38,691 --> 00:48:40,941
I... I never...
735
00:48:42,315 --> 00:48:43,691
Oh, God.
736
00:48:46,607 --> 00:48:49,649
- Yeah.
- So... It's not easy.
737
00:48:51,315 --> 00:48:52,816
It's not easy for anybody.
738
00:49:31,148 --> 00:49:33,524
Gonna kill you.
739
00:49:35,357 --> 00:49:37,691
Gonna kill you.
740
00:49:39,899 --> 00:49:42,565
Gonna kill you.
741
00:51:06,982 --> 00:51:10,107
If you commit a murder
and then vanish,
742
00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:13,565
what you leave behind
isn't just pain,
743
00:51:13,649 --> 00:51:15,732
but absence.
744
00:51:15,816 --> 00:51:18,357
A supreme blankness
that triumphs
745
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,816
over everything else.
746
00:51:20,899 --> 00:51:24,732
The unidentified murderer
is always twisting a doorknob
747
00:51:24,816 --> 00:51:28,357
behind a door that never opens.
748
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,273
But his power evaporates
the moment you know him.
749
00:51:37,732 --> 00:51:38,774
Okay.
750
00:51:39,774 --> 00:51:41,857
Letter to an Old Man.
751
00:51:44,273 --> 00:51:46,482
You were your approach.
752
00:51:46,565 --> 00:51:49,023
The thump against the fence.
753
00:51:49,107 --> 00:51:53,440
A temperature dip from
a jimmied-open patio door.
754
00:51:53,524 --> 00:51:55,440
A blade at the base of the neck.
755
00:51:58,065 --> 00:52:00,357
Your fantasies ran deep,
756
00:52:01,148 --> 00:52:03,357
but they never tripped you up.
757
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,148
Not me.
758
00:52:17,232 --> 00:52:21,232
I think you bailed
when the world began to change.
759
00:52:21,315 --> 00:52:24,273
It's true,
age must have slowed you.
760
00:52:24,357 --> 00:52:28,107
But your heyday prowess
has no value anymore.
761
00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:31,982
Virtual windows are opening
all around you.
762
00:52:32,065 --> 00:52:35,315
You, the master watcher,
are an aging,
763
00:52:35,399 --> 00:52:38,315
lumbering target
in their crosshairs.
764
00:52:38,399 --> 00:52:41,148
A ski mask won't help you now.
765
00:52:41,232 --> 00:52:44,565
One day soon, you'll hear a car
pull up to your curb,
766
00:52:44,649 --> 00:52:46,357
an engine cut out.
767
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,482
You'll hear footsteps
coming up your front walk.
768
00:52:51,565 --> 00:52:52,982
The doorbell rings.
769
00:52:54,148 --> 00:52:56,065
No side gates are left open.
770
00:52:56,148 --> 00:52:59,107
You're long past
leaping over a fence.
771
00:52:59,190 --> 00:53:02,482
Take one of your hyper,
gulping breaths,
772
00:53:02,565 --> 00:53:07,023
clench your teeth, inch timidly
toward the insistent bell.
773
00:53:17,607 --> 00:53:21,482
Open the door,
show us your face.
774
00:53:22,148 --> 00:53:24,273
Walk into the light.
775
00:54:36,148 --> 00:54:38,107
I... I need
an ambulance here right now.
776
00:54:38,190 --> 00:54:39,649
An EMT team right now.
777
00:54:39,732 --> 00:54:41,041
Okay, sir, listen to me.
778
00:54:41,065 --> 00:54:42,774
We're gonna send you help. Okay?
779
00:54:42,857 --> 00:54:43,982
How old is your wife?
780
00:54:44,065 --> 00:54:45,833
I'm calling
from this address right now.
781
00:54:45,857 --> 00:54:48,148
Please, please send
the ambulance right now.
782
00:54:48,232 --> 00:54:50,440
Sir, I'm sending you
help there now. Okay?
783
00:54:50,524 --> 00:54:52,107
Help is on the way. Stay on...
784
00:57:10,273 --> 00:57:11,500
I remember
being very frightened.
785
00:57:11,524 --> 00:57:13,084
I did that thing where
I close my eyes
786
00:57:13,148 --> 00:57:16,023
and I try to will this
as a nightmare,
787
00:57:16,315 --> 00:57:17,649
and then it just wasn't.
788
00:57:20,023 --> 00:57:21,875
We didn't know for months
what killed Michelle.
789
00:57:21,899 --> 00:57:25,232
In the true crime community,
her death was unbelievable.
790
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,190
One of the first things
I thought was
791
00:57:27,273 --> 00:57:28,607
that book has to get finished.
792
00:57:29,232 --> 00:57:31,023
Patton was like,
"We're already on it."
793
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:33,982
I wanted to take care of
this person for her whole life.
794
00:57:34,816 --> 00:57:36,941
This book was
my last opportunity
795
00:57:37,023 --> 00:57:38,565
to take care of something
for her.
796
00:57:39,148 --> 00:57:41,190
And then there was the case.
797
00:57:41,649 --> 00:57:44,440
I just lost
my investigative partner.
798
00:57:45,315 --> 00:57:47,399
I reached out to
this genetic genealogist.
799
00:57:47,941 --> 00:57:49,857
We've got a third cousin match.
800
00:57:50,607 --> 00:57:52,273
Things snowballed from there.
801
00:57:52,524 --> 00:57:55,273
I've got all this stuff that's
adding up that he's the guy.
802
00:57:55,357 --> 00:57:58,391
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