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Having earned
$373 million at the box office,
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Batman Beginshad reignited the franchise,
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- making fans and especially,
the studio, very happy.
-
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If you make them a lot of money,
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they will give you
a lot of leeway.
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But Hollywood
director, Chris Nolan,
topped his first effort.
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I don't know what he ate
in between Batman Begins
and Dark Knight,
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but he came back to Dark Knight
with a vengeance.
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- The sequel
would be bigger.
- Much much bigger.
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Filled with
death-defying
practical effects.
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I mean, Heath said
he was a nervous wreck.
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Pushing the crew
to the brink
of what's possible.
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Several stuntmen
tried out riding it.
It didn't work.
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But almost seemingly
from the inception,
they hit a snag.
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She wanted to do other parts
and move on with her career.
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So, with a new
leading lady...
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Are you all right?
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Let's not do that again.
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...and a teenage
heart-throb for a villain...
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Ledger actually getting cast
was hugely,
hugely controversial.
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No one thought
that guy was the guy.
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...would Chris be forced
to compromise his vision?
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Chris isn't gonna do it
the easy way.
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-
- And sadly,
The Dark Knight still had one
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very dark chapter
yet to play out.
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Oh, man.
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Devastated, yeah.
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It felt like a cavern
had just kind of opened up
in the middle of the earth.
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For The Dark Knight,Christopher Nolan's idea
of who Batman was
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continued to morph and evolve.
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One film into the trilogy,
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the look and sound of Batman
had already changed.
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What the hell are you?
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-
- I'm Batman.
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Its director
was evolving too,
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into an action
blockbuster filmmaker.
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I saw him grow
and grow and grow.
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You know, before Batman Begins,
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you know, Chris hadn't done
an action film.
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But having
knocked it out of the park
with Batman Begins,
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he was prepared
to kick it up a notch.
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Thing with Chris is that
he likes to start with reality
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baked in to start with
as much as possible.
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Even if it's just reference,
I think he's warm to CGI,
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but push comes to shove,
he'd still rather
do stuff for real.
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And with
a real big budget,
Chris Nolan was dreaming big.
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And it was
Christopher Corbould's job
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to make Chris Nolan's
real big dreams come true.
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I said to Chris,
"You know, this is much bigger
than the last one."
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In the script,
there were motorcycle stunts,
truck stunts
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and even blowing up a hospital.
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He sort of looked at me
a bit strange and said,
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"I thought you'd blown up
a building before?"
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I said, "No.
What I actually said was,
'I want to blow up a building.'"
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Now,
Chris had his chance.
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All he had to do
was find a building.
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In the meantime,
he also had to figure out
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how to flip a 60-foot truck
end-over-end.
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I wasn't absolutely sure
we could do that.
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However impossible,
flipping a truck
might still be easier
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than saying no
to Christopher Nolan.
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There's no compromise
with Chris.
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But this Chris
had a different stance
on compromise.
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[Corbould] I went to Chris
one day and said,
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"Look, instead of a
60-foot 18-wheeler,
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is there any chance we could
make it a bit shorter?"
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He sort of looked
at me and said,
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"I don't think
it'd be as good."
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So, uh, I said to him,
"Now, where are you
gonna film this?"
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Thinking he'd say,
"Oh, some derelict site."
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He said, "No, I wanna shoot it
in LaSalle Street."
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Which is the banking district
of Chicago.
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Chris isn't gonna do it
the easy way.
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Chris is gonna do it
the best way for the movie.
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For the other Chris,
that meant no margin for error.
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So, while Chris Corbould
began losing sleep
over how to flip a truck...
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Oh, no.
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...his team
began developing
the film's new vehicle.
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The bike or Batpod,
as we call it.
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Designed to be
an extension of the Tumbler,
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its fat wheel design,
while futuristic and stylish,
came with one big drawback.
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Several stuntmen
tried out riding it,
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and most of them said,
"You know, this is not my gig."
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Those wheels were so far apart
and so wide,
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it was just like
another beast entirely,
you know.
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It would spit anybody off.
It's not a matter of
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if you're gonna lay it down,
it's when you're gonna
lay it down.
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Fortunately,
for Chris Nolan...
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There was one person
in the world who could ride
the goddamn thing then.
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No, not Batman.
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A Frenchman.
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A great French stunt rider
called Jean-Pierre Goy.
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[Otero] He could ride that
thing. The initial learning
curve was pretty steep.
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[Corbould] And he
practiced with it.
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And, you know, within a day,
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I watched him going down
the road standing up
on the saddle.
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So I thought,
yeah, that's the guy.
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With a stunt driver secured,
a second safety issue emerged.
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You know, there's no mud guards
on this bike
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and he's got a cape
out of the back.
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And I was worried
that the cape was gonna
get caught up in the wheel.
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So Chris
had to speak up.
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I said, "Chris,
I'm really worried."
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I'm really worried
that he's gonna catch up.
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Thankfully,
the usually uncompromising
Chris Nolan had a solution.
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So we started coming out
with all these ideas.
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Including one design
that would've had Batman
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looking like a tourist
with this Batpack.
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Once he got on it,
his cape sucked up
into a backpack.
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So it got it out of the way.
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But hold on.
This isn't PAC-MAN.
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This is Batman.
The Caped Crusader.
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So Chris decided
to test the bike
with the cape on.
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And as soon as he took off,
the cape just
floated into the air
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and never looked like
it was gonna get
anywhere near the wheel.
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It was quite bizarre.
So I had to go cap in hand
to Chris and say, "Look,
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I might have made
a mistake there, Chris.
It absolutely looks fantastic."
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And he had that little grin
that he gives me when, uh,
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he's thinking,
"Yeah, I knew I was right."
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With the Batpod
tested and ready,
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production on The Dark Knightbegan in Chicago April, 2007.
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And running the set
was first AD, Nilo Otero.
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The first thing we shot,
we shot the bank robbery.
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Being brand new
to Nolan's crew,
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the stakes for Nilo
couldn't have been higher.
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[Otero] I got set up outside.
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We're shooting.
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The school bus
has gone through the wall
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and is now pulling away
as all the police cars come up.
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It's a shot that, you know,
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you've got a mile here this
and roll school buses
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and police cars
coming the other way.
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And here we go. Ready and...
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"Nilo?" "Yeah?"
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"There's a fire
in the building behind us."
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- "What?"
-
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Obstruction ahead!
Obstruction ahead!
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They said, "We're gonna need
to clear the street."
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And for a first AD
like Nilo Otero,
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- the word failure
isn't in his vocabulary.
- No.
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But there was
another word
he was eager to deploy.
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And I said,
"I can clear this street
with one word."
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That word is "action."
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And he looked at me
and he smiled.
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And I thought my jokes were bad.
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And from that point on,
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I think he really said,
"This might be a guy
I can work with."
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While
Christopher Nolan was getting
his first look at his new AD.
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The bank heist scene
is the audience's first look
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at The Dark Knight'snew face of evil.
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So why do they
call him The Joker?
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I heard he wears makeup.
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As The Joker
is unmasked,
a revolutionary new look
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for Batman's
most popular villain
is unveiled for the first time.
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How about a magic trick?
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Marking the end
of a long road
for the man who created it.
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Ah, it's gone.
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It was like an evolution.
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They kind of know
where they want to go,
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but they expect you to bring
something to the table too.
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So all together,
it's like a journey.
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A journey fraught
with high expectations.
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You can't really overstate
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what a huge impression
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that Nicholson
playing The Joker had.
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So John Caglione Jr. was
tasked with finding a look
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that was fresh yet familiar.
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[Caglione] When we first started
to do the test,
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I was thinking like
a makeup artist.
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It looked too clean.
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It looked too like
a makeup artist
was designing this thing.
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And we started to just
play around with ideas.
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Christopher Nolan,
in his great directing style,
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brought in some paintings
of Francis Bacon
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that are very dreary and loose
and blurry images.
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It was just an impression
of what the makeup could be.
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That kind of blurry, lived in,
cracked and creviced look.
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In developing
the look of the Joker,
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John had an ingenious idea
that would help Heath
develop his character.
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I had Heath do his own makeup,
just so that he could feel like
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he is The Joker
and he does his own makeup.
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If the actor looks in the mirror
and can believe it,
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then I've done my job.
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And with
that collaboration,
came small discoveries.
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[Caglione] And one takeaway that we found
with him doing his makeup,
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was that he got makeup
on his fingers.
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So that's something that we
incorporated into the makeup
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when he's not
wearing his gloves.
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It was a collaboration
that brought a sense of realism
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to an otherwise
over the top character.
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Throughout the picture,
it's evolving,
it's constantly changing.
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And Heath and I are talking
in the makeup room,
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"Maybe we could do
something different here."
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It was like
a dance in the chair.
It really was.
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Basically four or five colors.
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Well, hello, beautiful.
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While Heath Ledger
was trying hard to stand out,
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Maggie Gyllenhaal
was trying to fit in.
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New Rachel Dawes.
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She was perfect for the part,
I thought.
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[Greenberger] She brought her all.
She was glamorous.
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She was, you know...
had some serious weight
behind her.
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Come on, Harvey,
you're Gotham's DA.
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You're not getting shot at,
you're not doing your job right.
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And then you add Aaron Eckhart
as the tragic figure,
Harvey Dent.
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Handsome, charismatic
Harvey Dent.
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It's no wonder
that Billy Dee Williams
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was so keen on playing
Two-Face/Harvey Dent.
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As a character,
it's a good one.
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If you look at
The Dark Knight narratively,
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he's the centerpiece
of the whole thing.
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He's the linchpin
for the whole narrative.
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The legal crusader,
dealing with the politics
with Bruce Wayne.
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Harvey Dent,
the man of the hour.
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Handsome dude
is trying to take my girl
and buying me a campaign.
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I believe in Harvey Dent.
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Meanwhile,
Morgan Freeman
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would be reprising his role
as Lucius Fox.
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Wouldn't want the trust fund
to run out now, would we?
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And Gary Oldman
was back and with a raise.
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Commissioner Gordon.
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[Henderson] Him and Morgan Freeman,
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anchor this whole thing
in a believability
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that really sells
this grounded realism.
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That's how you're able
to buy The Joker
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and buy Two-Face
and buy all this stuff.
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Just when it seemed
like everything
was coming together
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on the set of the Dark Knight.
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Good evening. I'm Mike Engel
and this is a special edition
of Gotham tonight.
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The production was hit
with some devastating news.
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Someone working
on The Dark Knight...
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was killed.
233
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It was
an off set accident.
234
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It happened at Chris Corbould's
special effects facility.
235
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It sent shock waves
through the production.
236
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But for Chris Corbould,
the accident happened
in his department.
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No. I don't wanna relive that.
238
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It was sad, it was an accident
and I don't wanna go there.
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A simple test shoot
for a practical effect
involving the Tumbler
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had ended in the tragic death
of New Zealander,
Conway Wickliffe.
241
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There was a vehicle
traveling with it.
242
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It was less than
ten miles an hour,
243
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with a guy with his iPhone
shooting it,
just to be able to show Chris.
244
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He leans out the window.
245
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For whatever reason,
the driver hit the brakes.
246
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Within the door frame,
his neck hit the...
247
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And it was just a freak--
Broke his neck,
he died, in an instant.
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Production on
The Dark Knightstruggled to continue
249
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after a crew member's
untimely passing.
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You pick up the paper,
the British tabloids, you know,
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"Death on Dark Knight set!"
252
00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,624
And while an inquest
would eventually find Nolan's
253
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special effects supervisor
not guilty of any wrongdoing...
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It was what it was,
which was a really sad accident,
255
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of a freakish nature.
256
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The death had left
a mark that would be
hard to shake off.
257
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That was a shockwave
through the production.
258
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For newcomer
Monique Gabriela Curnen,
259
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who'd just come on
to the picture,
260
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it was a very somber start.
261
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Just...
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the worst possible scenario.
263
00:12:12,566 --> 00:12:18,614
You know, my hat goes off
to all stunt people
making their living like this.
264
00:12:18,655 --> 00:12:20,616
However the cast
and crew's ability
265
00:12:20,657 --> 00:12:23,410
to come together under
such tragic circumstances,
266
00:12:23,452 --> 00:12:26,038
made refocusing on the movie
a little easier.
267
00:12:26,078 --> 00:12:30,167
There's no making up
for someone's absence.
268
00:12:30,208 --> 00:12:35,589
But Chris is just
such a pro in terms
of dealing with things.
269
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I really felt like
I was stepping into
a well-oiled machine.
270
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You felt the respect
for the material
271
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in the way people
showed up for work,
272
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and that made the play
fun and easy.
273
00:12:51,063 --> 00:12:53,524
And no one was playing
more than Heath Ledger,
274
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who, transformed by the makeup,
was taking the role
275
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of the Joker
in a whole new direction.
276
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I don't want
to kill you.
277
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What would I do without you?
278
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Just thrilling to watch someone
just go there so completely.
279
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And I just had a sense
that it was gonna be exciting
280
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and that it was going to bring
new levels to this character.
281
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He's having
the time of his life.
282
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- [Batman grunting]
-
283
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There were times where he'd say,
"John," you know,
"help me with my lines."
284
00:13:26,765 --> 00:13:28,809
And he had
everyone's lines memorized,
285
00:13:28,851 --> 00:13:31,102
I mean, he had a great like
sense of memory.
286
00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:33,397
And I would just say,
"Okay, I'll do this line."
287
00:13:33,438 --> 00:13:35,190
"Bullshit, bullshit.
Your line."
288
00:13:35,232 --> 00:13:37,359
And he would
start cracking up.
289
00:13:37,401 --> 00:13:39,444
That's the way it went
in the makeup trailer.
290
00:13:39,486 --> 00:13:41,113
It was just like
we had a lot of fun.
291
00:13:42,865 --> 00:13:45,701
Even old hands
were taken aback
by this new Joker.
292
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Michael Caine, he had not seen
Heath in that makeup
293
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and then he walks in
off the elevator in that scene.
294
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We made it.
295
00:13:53,208 --> 00:13:54,626
It really bothered him,
the makeup.
296
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[Caglione] That's good.
297
00:13:57,796 --> 00:13:59,548
Kinda did my job
a little bit there.
298
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Oh, excuse me. I wanna drive.
299
00:14:03,177 --> 00:14:04,970
Of course,
part of the fun for Heath
300
00:14:05,011 --> 00:14:06,513
was getting
to flip the big rig.
301
00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:08,432
I like this job.
302
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Which, if you recall.
303
00:14:09,641 --> 00:14:11,934
I wasn't absolutely sure
we could do that.
304
00:14:11,977 --> 00:14:15,397
But after many months
of thinking of a safe way
to do it and testing it out,
305
00:14:15,439 --> 00:14:17,941
this Chris was able
to tell that Chris.
306
00:14:17,982 --> 00:14:19,693
Game's on, you know,
we can do it.
307
00:14:19,735 --> 00:14:21,695
Well,
if they were really doing it,
308
00:14:21,737 --> 00:14:23,447
they would need
a badass stunt driver.
309
00:14:24,072 --> 00:14:25,407
Sorry, Heath.
310
00:14:25,449 --> 00:14:27,284
Jim Wilkey was the stunt driver.
311
00:14:28,535 --> 00:14:30,495
Hey, you wait like
everybody else, pal.
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A veteran
of more than 130 stunts,
313
00:14:33,332 --> 00:14:36,585
Jim was hardly
quaking in his boots
when he signed up for the job.
314
00:14:36,627 --> 00:14:38,712
It was just another movie
when I went in there.
315
00:14:38,754 --> 00:14:40,130
You know, I'm going, "Oh, okay."
316
00:14:40,172 --> 00:14:42,299
The one who
was nervous, was Chris.
317
00:14:42,341 --> 00:14:44,343
Not that Chris, this Chris.
318
00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:48,180
Nerve-racking night that.
I lost a lot of sleep
over that shot.
319
00:14:48,222 --> 00:14:52,434
I was down at the start
of where the truck was starting.
320
00:14:52,476 --> 00:14:55,437
Making sure that stunt guy
was strapped in properly.
321
00:14:55,479 --> 00:14:57,814
Because safety,
now more than ever,
was paramount.
322
00:14:57,856 --> 00:14:59,191
And the theory was,
323
00:14:59,233 --> 00:15:01,735
it was 11-foot long slug,
they call it,
324
00:15:01,777 --> 00:15:04,112
about half way back
on the trailer.
325
00:15:04,154 --> 00:15:06,823
- And what happens is
that slug's blown out...
-
326
00:15:06,865 --> 00:15:10,410
...and it then, the force of it,
blows the whole rig up and over.
327
00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,165
And the idea was
that for the spike
on the front of the tractor
328
00:15:15,207 --> 00:15:18,335
to dig in and just
help the trailer
to kind of alley-oop over.
329
00:15:18,377 --> 00:15:20,546
Of course,
that's just a theory.
330
00:15:20,587 --> 00:15:22,089
We don't know
what'll happen.
331
00:15:22,130 --> 00:15:24,800
We don't know if the trailer's
gonna go this way, that way.
332
00:15:24,842 --> 00:15:26,635
Had absolutely no idea.
333
00:15:26,677 --> 00:15:29,054
Because
Even though practice
looked good,
334
00:15:29,096 --> 00:15:31,390
doing it at a car park
at low speed,
335
00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:34,226
was not how
The Joker would roll
or where he would roll.
336
00:15:34,268 --> 00:15:38,188
This street was more or less
the same width as the truck.
337
00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:40,315
So if it had gone
off course a little bit,
338
00:15:40,357 --> 00:15:42,317
it'd been through
the Chase Manhattan Bank.
339
00:15:42,359 --> 00:15:45,779
Which had
some people in City Hall
feeling kind of nervous.
340
00:15:45,821 --> 00:15:48,448
Certainly everybody had
a little concern about it.
341
00:15:48,490 --> 00:15:50,492
But after a meeting
with the city,
342
00:15:50,534 --> 00:15:53,161
the mayor gave
full support to the film,
343
00:15:53,203 --> 00:15:54,997
which was, you know, critical.
344
00:15:55,038 --> 00:15:57,916
Meanwhile,
as Chris was scoping
the truck flip,
345
00:15:57,958 --> 00:15:59,710
I started walking
down LaSalle street.
346
00:15:59,751 --> 00:16:02,337
he discovered
a big problem
right under his nose,
347
00:16:02,379 --> 00:16:03,672
or rather, feet.
348
00:16:03,714 --> 00:16:06,425
There's a whole street
of manhole covers.
349
00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:09,136
They were utilities,
they were bank vaults.
350
00:16:09,178 --> 00:16:11,889
We only found two spots
in the whole street,
351
00:16:11,930 --> 00:16:15,267
which gave us enough room,
you know, like a 50 yard bit,
where we could...
352
00:16:15,309 --> 00:16:17,686
It would take the weight
of the piston coming down.
353
00:16:17,728 --> 00:16:20,898
Jim had just 50 yards
and one shot.
354
00:16:20,939 --> 00:16:24,651
One of the IMAX cameras
was sitting right on the ground
355
00:16:24,693 --> 00:16:26,862
and basically,
I had to pitch the truck
356
00:16:26,904 --> 00:16:29,907
right into that camera lens,
in a precise spot.
357
00:16:29,948 --> 00:16:33,118
And there's never gonna be
a second take for that.
358
00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,870
That was a one shot deal.
359
00:16:34,912 --> 00:16:38,332
And no pressure there,
right?
360
00:16:38,373 --> 00:16:41,084
The stakes
were so high,
even off the clock actors
361
00:16:41,126 --> 00:16:43,045
were enticed
out of their hotel suites.
362
00:16:43,086 --> 00:16:44,463
Ooh, he wanna play. Come on.
363
00:16:44,505 --> 00:16:47,174
I went to go
kind of check it out.
364
00:16:47,216 --> 00:16:50,052
That was the big deal that night
to see this thing happen.
365
00:16:50,093 --> 00:16:54,515
'Cause I had heard that,
you know, it was gonna be
pretty impressive and massive.
366
00:16:54,556 --> 00:16:56,642
But before
they could roll cameras,
367
00:16:56,683 --> 00:16:59,311
there was a ceremonial
passing of the wigs.
368
00:16:59,353 --> 00:17:02,564
[Wilkey] For a multimillion dollar
budgeted production,
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00:17:02,606 --> 00:17:04,816
they only had one wig
for The Joker.
370
00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,614
So we would have to swap the wig
back and forth.
371
00:17:10,656 --> 00:17:12,324
Of course,
having Heath
hanging around,
372
00:17:12,366 --> 00:17:14,284
was pretty standard
for the stunt crew.
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00:17:14,326 --> 00:17:16,119
He loved to hang out
with the stunt guys.
374
00:17:16,161 --> 00:17:18,121
He'd be bebopping around
in his board shorts.
375
00:17:18,163 --> 00:17:21,208
On his skateboard
and laughing it up
with the stunt guys.
376
00:17:21,250 --> 00:17:24,419
But while Heath
and the stunt guys
got a few last laughs in,
377
00:17:24,461 --> 00:17:26,713
Chris put the final touches
on the truck.
378
00:17:26,755 --> 00:17:29,383
We started loading up
the nitrogen cannons
379
00:17:29,424 --> 00:17:32,845
and I got on the radio and said,
"Right, Chris,
we're ready to go now."
380
00:17:32,886 --> 00:17:35,388
The button that I have to hit
is right here.
381
00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:38,934
So I'm sitting here
kind of like I am now,
you know, my hands.
382
00:17:38,976 --> 00:17:41,811
Said, "You're ready?"
I said, "Yeah, let's do it."
You know, so...
383
00:17:41,854 --> 00:17:44,606
Called action and we set it off,
you know, running down the road.
384
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,900
Okay, rack 'em up.
385
00:17:46,942 --> 00:17:48,443
Away we went.
386
00:17:48,484 --> 00:17:51,780
I won't say that I wasn't
a little apprehensive.
387
00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:53,949
I watched it
and watched it and watched it
and I go,
388
00:17:53,991 --> 00:17:56,034
"No, I just can't watch this."
389
00:17:56,076 --> 00:18:00,205
I turned away
and I was listening
for the sound it was gonna make.
390
00:18:00,247 --> 00:18:02,040
And then loud applause,
391
00:18:02,082 --> 00:18:03,876
where it hadn't
gone through a bank.
392
00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:06,128
-
- Thankfully,
for Chris Corbould
393
00:18:06,170 --> 00:18:07,546
and for Chris Nolan.
394
00:18:08,755 --> 00:18:10,799
The truck just goes...
395
00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:17,097
Cinematic!
396
00:18:17,138 --> 00:18:18,891
We're all jumping up and down.
397
00:18:18,932 --> 00:18:22,519
But unfortunately,
it also did a bit more
to Jim's head.
398
00:18:22,561 --> 00:18:25,480
Trailer hit
and then the cab hit.
399
00:18:25,522 --> 00:18:30,444
And then the cab
kind of comes back up
and slams down the second time.
400
00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:32,696
Kind of a double whacker,
you know.
401
00:18:32,738 --> 00:18:37,284
It was that second slam
that kind of, rung my bell,
you know.
402
00:18:37,326 --> 00:18:40,369
It was like, bam
and then, whack.
403
00:18:40,412 --> 00:18:43,123
Over the sound
of his own bell
ringing in his ears,
404
00:18:43,165 --> 00:18:44,541
Jim heard the applause.
405
00:18:44,583 --> 00:18:47,294
But he really wasn't
in any shape to take a bow.
406
00:18:47,336 --> 00:18:50,172
I kind of wasn't quite sure
where I was at.
407
00:18:50,214 --> 00:18:52,883
And apparently,
I just turned around
408
00:18:52,925 --> 00:18:56,470
and started wandering off
down LaSalle Street.
409
00:18:56,512 --> 00:19:00,390
Hey, I was a little bit goofy
for a few minutes.
410
00:19:00,432 --> 00:19:03,227
So,
was the final shot
worth the concussion?
411
00:19:03,268 --> 00:19:07,731
Oh, it was really cool. Yeah.
I couldn't believe it.
It was like, you know, wow.
412
00:19:07,773 --> 00:19:10,150
The truck flip proved
Chris and his crew
413
00:19:10,192 --> 00:19:12,486
could really
upend expectations,
414
00:19:12,528 --> 00:19:14,905
except there was
one minor problem.
415
00:19:14,946 --> 00:19:17,157
The next morning,
Chris was a little bit upset
416
00:19:17,199 --> 00:19:19,326
that somebody had photographed
on their phone,
417
00:19:19,368 --> 00:19:25,165
the whole truck going over
out of a 20-story building,
and they put it on the internet.
418
00:19:25,207 --> 00:19:26,792
The stunt
had gone viral.
419
00:19:26,834 --> 00:19:29,002
And there was nothing
either Chris could do about it.
420
00:19:29,044 --> 00:19:32,214
Chris wants to control
every image in the movie.
Thanks very much.
421
00:19:32,256 --> 00:19:34,424
His special
effects supervisor
422
00:19:34,465 --> 00:19:36,426
seemed almost pleased
by the leak.
423
00:19:36,468 --> 00:19:39,721
Chris, everybody now
is gonna know that
it's been done for real.
424
00:19:39,763 --> 00:19:41,765
And it's not a cheat,
it's not a model.
425
00:19:41,807 --> 00:19:44,226
It's not CG
and it's not gonna stop
one single person
426
00:19:44,268 --> 00:19:45,853
from coming to see it
in the cinema.
427
00:19:45,894 --> 00:19:48,146
So I'm well over the moon
with that.
428
00:19:48,188 --> 00:19:52,401
So, Nolan and
his team had successfully
flipped a 60-foot truck.
429
00:19:52,442 --> 00:19:54,778
Is there any chance we could
make it a bit shorter?
430
00:19:54,820 --> 00:19:57,071
Nope
Not one foot shorter.
431
00:19:57,114 --> 00:20:01,451
For the uncompromising Nolan,
his next trick
was to blow up a hospital.
432
00:20:01,493 --> 00:20:03,036
Of course.
433
00:20:03,078 --> 00:20:05,330
That was a little bit
of a head scratcher
to begin with.
434
00:20:05,372 --> 00:20:07,374
That was until
someone in the locations
435
00:20:07,416 --> 00:20:09,334
department had
a brilliant idea.
436
00:20:09,376 --> 00:20:12,963
Find out who's gone out for bids
to demolish their building.
437
00:20:13,005 --> 00:20:15,299
Which resulted
in them finding this place.
438
00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:17,009
[McAllister] The Brach's
candy factory.
439
00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:19,970
And as soon as I saw it,
I'm like, "This is fantastic."
440
00:20:20,012 --> 00:20:23,223
While changing
the facade to look like
a hospital would be easy,
441
00:20:23,265 --> 00:20:26,476
pulling off this
elaborate stunt
would all come down to timing.
442
00:20:26,518 --> 00:20:28,395
You can only
blow up a hospital once.
443
00:20:28,436 --> 00:20:31,356
And for Nolan,
it wasn't enough
just to raise the building,
444
00:20:31,398 --> 00:20:33,358
- this needed to be special.
-
445
00:20:35,527 --> 00:20:37,571
Bombs away
was the order of the day
446
00:20:37,613 --> 00:20:39,198
on the set of the Dark Knight.
447
00:20:41,032 --> 00:20:44,619
Uh, Chris didn't want it
to come down just like
a normal demolition.
448
00:20:44,661 --> 00:20:46,288
- Like a pack of cards.
-
449
00:20:46,330 --> 00:20:47,873
[Corbould] He wanted different.
450
00:20:47,915 --> 00:20:51,792
So, we came up with this scheme
where it went down sideways.
451
00:20:51,835 --> 00:20:56,006
So, it started off on one side
and then collapsed across.
452
00:20:56,048 --> 00:20:58,425
-
- [Corbould] Which Chris
really liked.
453
00:20:58,467 --> 00:21:01,553
The scene called
for Heath to be
right in the line of fire.
454
00:21:01,595 --> 00:21:03,222
But given all that
had happened...
455
00:21:03,263 --> 00:21:05,641
I mean, Heath said
he was a nervous wreck.
456
00:21:05,682 --> 00:21:09,561
He was just like,
"Will I survive this?"
457
00:21:09,603 --> 00:21:12,731
and knowingly,
Chris Corbould
wanted to be extra safe.
458
00:21:12,773 --> 00:21:18,737
I went to Chris and said,
"Look, I don't want Heath
outside of the bus
459
00:21:18,779 --> 00:21:20,739
when the real demolition
goes off."
460
00:21:20,781 --> 00:21:22,574
You know,
the bus was bulletproof.
461
00:21:22,616 --> 00:21:25,118
It had huge great
polycarbonate windows,
462
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,828
the sides were
all armor-plated.
463
00:21:26,869 --> 00:21:28,539
Once he was in there,
he was safe.
464
00:21:28,580 --> 00:21:31,792
So, we came up with the idea
that as he was walking out,
465
00:21:31,834 --> 00:21:34,545
there would be all
cosmetic explosions going off,
466
00:21:34,586 --> 00:21:36,630
then there would be a glitch
and it would stop.
467
00:21:40,008 --> 00:21:43,136
And the first explosion
after he fiddles
with his thing,
468
00:21:43,178 --> 00:21:45,055
was his cue to get in the back
of that bus.
469
00:21:47,683 --> 00:21:49,309
[Corbould] I was in
the back of the bus
470
00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:50,769
and literally
I got hold of him
471
00:21:50,811 --> 00:21:53,272
and yanked him in
and shut the door.
472
00:21:53,313 --> 00:21:55,023
Then once
that door was shut,
473
00:21:55,065 --> 00:21:58,109
was when they pressed the button
for the actual
physical demolition.
474
00:22:01,780 --> 00:22:03,574
One of the last scenes
to be shot
475
00:22:03,615 --> 00:22:05,534
was the one in Hong Kong
where Batman goes
476
00:22:05,576 --> 00:22:07,286
and grabs
the mafia's accountant.
477
00:22:09,413 --> 00:22:12,332
And there'll be
no faking Hong Kong
for Christopher Nolan.
478
00:22:12,374 --> 00:22:16,086
Because Chris wants as much
in camera as possible,
479
00:22:16,128 --> 00:22:20,674
the city streets,
the buildings,
that meant going to Hong Kong.
480
00:22:20,715 --> 00:22:23,051
And because Chris
liked to keep things real,
481
00:22:23,093 --> 00:22:24,428
the rescue involved...
482
00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:26,805
[Bennett] A very real
CIA program called Skyhook
483
00:22:26,847 --> 00:22:29,808
designed to rescue downed pilots
behind enemy lines.
484
00:22:29,850 --> 00:22:33,936
The person in trouble
releases a balloon,
485
00:22:33,979 --> 00:22:39,276
and then an airplane comes by,
hooks the balloon in mid-air
without ever stopping.
486
00:22:39,318 --> 00:22:41,153
We wanted to shoot
at the top of the IFC,
487
00:22:41,195 --> 00:22:44,156
which, at the time,
was the tallest building
in Hong Kong.
488
00:22:44,198 --> 00:22:46,200
Unfortunately
the scale of the shoot
489
00:22:46,241 --> 00:22:49,077
was too tall and order
for local fixers to organize.
490
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,538
Anyone that's been to Hong Kong,
they know it's very dense.
491
00:22:51,580 --> 00:22:55,000
However, it became
an even bigger problem
for authorities
492
00:22:55,042 --> 00:22:57,211
once word got out
that Batman was in town.
493
00:22:57,252 --> 00:22:59,046
[McAllister] By the time
we came to shoot,
494
00:22:59,087 --> 00:23:01,965
we had hundreds of people
packed into this neighborhood.
495
00:23:02,007 --> 00:23:04,259
How do we function
in this situation?
496
00:23:04,301 --> 00:23:06,512
And finally,
they sent us police.
497
00:23:06,553 --> 00:23:09,223
Police though,
were no match
for the heaving masses.
498
00:23:09,263 --> 00:23:11,767
[McAllister] We had to get
Christian Bale to the set.
499
00:23:11,808 --> 00:23:16,605
It meant creating a scrum
around Christian Bale
to walk him.
500
00:23:16,647 --> 00:23:20,192
The governmental
red tape continued to make
things difficult for the crew.
501
00:23:20,234 --> 00:23:25,030
[McAllister] We shot the C-130
flying over the harbor.
502
00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:29,409
There was quite a bit of legwork
to get that achieved.
Just to do the low pass.
503
00:23:29,451 --> 00:23:32,913
Ultimately
Chris had to concede
this scene's finishing touches
504
00:23:32,955 --> 00:23:35,874
couldn't be performed
to his standard, on-location.
505
00:23:35,916 --> 00:23:38,377
I don't wanna give secrets away
on how things were done,
506
00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:41,630
but we did not pull somebody
out of a building.
507
00:23:41,672 --> 00:23:43,131
It was the magic of filmmaking.
508
00:23:43,173 --> 00:23:45,467
But the magic
had come to an end
509
00:23:45,509 --> 00:23:47,010
and when filming
finally wrapped,
510
00:23:47,052 --> 00:23:49,888
the crew gave Heath Ledger
a standing ovation.
511
00:23:49,930 --> 00:23:52,099
This exciting,
talented young actor,
512
00:23:52,140 --> 00:23:55,227
had given The Joker
everything he had.
513
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:56,811
I said goodbye to him
and it was like
514
00:23:58,105 --> 00:23:59,690
one of the most
amazing performances
515
00:23:59,731 --> 00:24:02,776
I've ever seen in my life
and, uh,
516
00:24:02,818 --> 00:24:04,444
you're a dedicated,
hard-working guy
517
00:24:04,486 --> 00:24:05,988
and I wanna
see you down the line.
518
00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:12,786
But Nilo
would never get to see
Heath Ledger down the line.
519
00:24:12,828 --> 00:24:13,787
[Caglione] Oh, man.
520
00:24:15,664 --> 00:24:18,083
Yeah. That was--
Uh...
521
00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:20,169
Man.
522
00:24:22,671 --> 00:24:23,630
I was at home.
523
00:24:27,426 --> 00:24:33,307
Suddenly, uh, people were
getting messages
on their phones.
524
00:24:33,348 --> 00:24:34,808
The phone rings
and Heath is dead.
525
00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:42,107
We're gonna turn now
to the death of an accomplished,
young actor.
526
00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:46,653
Late today, the body of one time
Oscar nominee, Heath Ledger,
was found in New York.
527
00:24:46,695 --> 00:24:49,865
I mean, it's like inexplicable
528
00:24:49,907 --> 00:24:54,869
that someone so present
could just be gone that quickly.
529
00:24:58,498 --> 00:24:59,666
Yeah, I...
530
00:25:01,084 --> 00:25:05,172
That was a very hard day.
That was a really hard day.
531
00:25:05,214 --> 00:25:08,425
I had heard from quite
a few people involved in it too
532
00:25:08,467 --> 00:25:11,803
that, um, Bale in particular,
took it really, really hard.
533
00:25:11,845 --> 00:25:15,766
It felt like,
kind of like a cavern
534
00:25:15,807 --> 00:25:18,727
had just kind of opened up
in the middle of the earth.
535
00:25:18,769 --> 00:25:23,732
For me, it was
a hugely personal loss
and it made me angry.
536
00:25:23,773 --> 00:25:29,321
As it always does
when a young person dies.
537
00:25:30,321 --> 00:25:31,823
An absolute tragedy.
538
00:25:31,865 --> 00:25:35,577
Uh, he had overdosed
on sleeping pills.
539
00:25:35,619 --> 00:25:38,413
The inevitable
media speculation
over Ledger's drug use
540
00:25:38,455 --> 00:25:41,333
only worsened
The Dark Knight team's anguish.
541
00:25:41,375 --> 00:25:42,792
[Otero] Did he have drug issues?
542
00:25:42,835 --> 00:25:44,962
Uh, yeah, he had
prescription drug issues
543
00:25:45,003 --> 00:25:47,256
dating back
to busting up his body
544
00:25:47,297 --> 00:25:51,385
when he was 14-year old
go-kart racer
in Australia, okay.
545
00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:53,053
He originally used them
to kill pain.
546
00:25:53,095 --> 00:25:56,473
To be honest with you,
I am a recovering alcoholic.
547
00:25:56,515 --> 00:26:01,186
So, Heath and I
would once in a while
talk about sobriety.
548
00:26:01,228 --> 00:26:04,273
And we had some conversations
in the chair
549
00:26:04,314 --> 00:26:07,442
about how I found mine
and he was finding his,
550
00:26:07,484 --> 00:26:10,445
and so it really came
as a complete shock to me.
551
00:26:12,489 --> 00:26:15,284
In post-production,
editors were busy shaping
552
00:26:15,325 --> 00:26:18,203
what would now be
the actor's legacy performance.
553
00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:21,498
Heath's performance was amazing.
554
00:26:21,540 --> 00:26:24,042
Sad that he never got to see it.
555
00:26:24,084 --> 00:26:26,295
Knowing what went into
that performance
556
00:26:26,336 --> 00:26:28,881
and knowing how much he cared
about what he was doing
557
00:26:28,922 --> 00:26:30,549
and the investment he made,
558
00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:32,968
there's always this
kind of melancholic twinge
to that movie.
559
00:26:33,010 --> 00:26:35,888
So, they're doing this junket
after his death.
560
00:26:35,929 --> 00:26:38,265
You know, usually these
take place in a hotel
561
00:26:38,307 --> 00:26:42,227
and you're sitting in a hallway
and then go into whatever room
they have the camera set up in.
562
00:26:42,269 --> 00:26:46,023
And every room that I went into
just had this pall.
563
00:26:46,064 --> 00:26:48,901
Like the people
filming it were sad,
564
00:26:48,942 --> 00:26:51,904
the people doing the interviews
were sad,
the reporters were sad.
565
00:26:51,945 --> 00:26:53,906
The emotions
surrounding the film,
566
00:26:53,946 --> 00:26:56,241
made the London premiere
a bittersweet event.
567
00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:59,161
There's a lot of excitement here
and that's really gratifying.
568
00:26:59,203 --> 00:27:01,121
The performance
was so convincing,
569
00:27:01,163 --> 00:27:02,998
it would eventually
lead to speculation
570
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,126
the character had got inside
the mind of the actor.
571
00:27:06,167 --> 00:27:09,588
No, there was
no darkness at all. Nah.
572
00:27:10,255 --> 00:27:11,590
He was a happy guy.
573
00:27:11,632 --> 00:27:13,759
There was a light everywhere
where that guy went.
574
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,512
And there was
that very light
that shone on audiences
575
00:27:16,553 --> 00:27:20,974
who flocked to witness
Ledger's defining last word
on The Joker.
576
00:27:21,016 --> 00:27:25,896
It actually crosses
the billion dollar threshold,
which is a huge deal.
577
00:27:25,938 --> 00:27:29,107
The Dark Knight is not only
one of the greatest
comic book movies ever made,
578
00:27:29,148 --> 00:27:31,109
it's one of the greatest movies
ever made.
579
00:27:31,151 --> 00:27:33,946
It was a masterpiece
on every level.
580
00:27:33,987 --> 00:27:37,074
Hollywood agreed
and in 2009, Heath Ledger
581
00:27:37,115 --> 00:27:41,078
posthumously made history
at the 81st Academy Awards.
582
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,455
And the Oscar goes to...
583
00:27:43,497 --> 00:27:46,083
Heath Ledger inThe Dark Knight.
584
00:27:46,124 --> 00:27:48,085
Becoming the first
actor to win an Oscar
585
00:27:48,126 --> 00:27:50,170
for portraying
a comic book character.
586
00:27:50,212 --> 00:27:53,757
I thought it was well deserved,
but it's just sad
he wasn't there, you know.
587
00:27:54,883 --> 00:27:57,427
Having that recognition
588
00:27:57,469 --> 00:28:03,058
and recognizing how special
he was as an actor,
589
00:28:04,852 --> 00:28:10,816
there was at least some good
in the face of the sadness.
590
00:28:10,858 --> 00:28:13,986
The biggest
superhero movie ever,
demanded an encore.
591
00:28:14,027 --> 00:28:15,904
But following
Heath Ledger's death,
592
00:28:15,946 --> 00:28:17,948
Warner's needed
to tread carefully.
593
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:19,657
[Busch] Obviously
you cannot use Joker.
594
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:23,704
You cannot recast that role.
You just can't.
595
00:28:23,744 --> 00:28:28,542
Heath's death certainly forced
Nolan and company
to recalibrate things.
596
00:28:28,584 --> 00:28:31,837
You had to change everything.
You just couldn't go forward
the same way.
597
00:28:31,879 --> 00:28:32,963
You know, what do you do?
598
00:28:36,383 --> 00:28:37,885
The loss
of Heath Ledger
599
00:28:37,926 --> 00:28:39,219
had left a hole
in Nolan's heart
600
00:28:39,261 --> 00:28:41,013
and a hole in his trilogy.
601
00:28:41,054 --> 00:28:44,641
Would the director and his star
be willing
and able to continue?
602
00:28:44,683 --> 00:28:46,310
Before that could be confirmed,
603
00:28:46,351 --> 00:28:50,022
Nolan began work on something
a long way from Batman.
604
00:28:50,063 --> 00:28:51,773
- What? Inception?
- Inception.
605
00:28:51,815 --> 00:28:54,401
Listen, if you're gonna
perform inception,
you need imagination.
606
00:28:54,443 --> 00:28:56,528
Nolan's cerebral epic.
607
00:28:56,570 --> 00:28:58,822
What were they smoking
when they wrote that script?
608
00:28:58,864 --> 00:29:01,241
Ironically,
the next installment of Batman,
609
00:29:01,283 --> 00:29:03,577
had some of its beginnings
in this very film,
610
00:29:03,619 --> 00:29:05,370
thanks to its stars.
611
00:29:05,412 --> 00:29:07,915
I thought you might
be missing me.
612
00:29:07,956 --> 00:29:10,334
Marion Cotillard
and Joseph Gordon-Levitt
613
00:29:10,375 --> 00:29:12,878
were destined to appear
in The Dark Knight Rises.
614
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,005
- What's your name, son?
- Blake, Sir.
615
00:29:15,047 --> 00:29:18,300
Nolan needed
another villain
to throw at Batman
616
00:29:18,342 --> 00:29:20,385
and if you're thinking, Bane,
617
00:29:20,427 --> 00:29:23,639
well, the bane
of Bane's creator,
Chuck Dixon's existence
618
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,725
was the character's portrayal
in Batman and Robin.
619
00:29:26,767 --> 00:29:30,812
Gotham observatory, Bane.
And step on it.
620
00:29:32,231 --> 00:29:36,151
He looked like our Bane,
but he wasn't our Bane.
621
00:29:36,193 --> 00:29:38,737
[Dixon] The notice
I got was that
they were gonna treat him
622
00:29:38,779 --> 00:29:41,240
like a mastermind,
like an intellect.
623
00:29:41,281 --> 00:29:43,158
Closer to the
comic book version.
624
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,078
And in keeping with
Nolan's quest
for keeping it real,
625
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:48,372
the character is based
on a real life figure.
626
00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:52,376
That would be
former North Korean dictator,
Kim Jong Il.
627
00:29:52,417 --> 00:29:56,380
In North Korea,
you could be imprisoned
for a relative's crimes.
628
00:29:56,421 --> 00:29:59,925
So, if they couldn't catch
your brother,
you served his time.
629
00:29:59,967 --> 00:30:02,928
And I thought,
well, what would it be like
if this character's father
630
00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:04,596
was a criminal
in the country where they were
631
00:30:04,638 --> 00:30:06,640
and they couldn't catch him?
632
00:30:06,682 --> 00:30:08,183
Bane is your child.
633
00:30:08,225 --> 00:30:12,938
And so, this poor kid
is put in prison.
634
00:30:12,980 --> 00:30:15,858
And then I thought,
well, wait a minute,
what if he was born in prison?
635
00:30:15,899 --> 00:30:18,443
How horrible a life
would that be?
636
00:30:18,485 --> 00:30:20,571
You merely adopted the dark.
637
00:30:21,864 --> 00:30:24,116
I was born in it.
638
00:30:24,157 --> 00:30:27,661
When
Chuck Dixon conjured Bane
for the DC series, Nightfall,
639
00:30:27,703 --> 00:30:31,540
he had to wrestle with many
of the same questions
Christopher Nolan did.
640
00:30:31,582 --> 00:30:35,210
For the whole thing to work,
the fans had to respond to him
and relate to him.
641
00:30:35,252 --> 00:30:40,382
And it worked out perfectly
because he was a product
of childhood trauma.
642
00:30:40,424 --> 00:30:43,385
The same way Batman is a product
of childhood trauma.
643
00:30:44,887 --> 00:30:48,140
So they really worked as
a perfect mirror image villain.
644
00:30:48,182 --> 00:30:49,850
-
- And this time,
645
00:30:49,892 --> 00:30:51,643
Bane wouldn't be created
in a lab,
646
00:30:53,854 --> 00:30:55,522
but rather as in
the comic book,
647
00:30:55,564 --> 00:30:57,691
on the mean streets
of South America.
648
00:30:57,733 --> 00:31:00,903
[Dixon] He's gonna be a prisoner
on an island
called Santa Prisca.
649
00:31:00,944 --> 00:31:02,738
Which is a made up island.
650
00:31:02,779 --> 00:31:04,948
He would eventually
be addicted to venom.
651
00:31:04,990 --> 00:31:08,911
Which was a, uh, sort of,
a super steroid narcotic.
652
00:31:08,952 --> 00:31:10,370
And that would be his flaw.
653
00:31:10,412 --> 00:31:11,955
Having been
raised in prison
654
00:31:11,997 --> 00:31:14,708
and haunted by
a bat like creature
in his nightmares,
655
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:17,544
Bane saw Batman
as his tormentor made flesh.
656
00:31:18,921 --> 00:31:20,672
Bane's size made him
a perfect fit
657
00:31:20,714 --> 00:31:23,175
for what Nolan needed
his new villain to be.
658
00:31:23,217 --> 00:31:24,801
Something The Joker never was.
659
00:31:25,969 --> 00:31:28,430
The Joker and Two-Face,
660
00:31:28,472 --> 00:31:32,893
neither one really presented
much of a physical challenge.
661
00:31:32,935 --> 00:31:35,479
A fight between
Batman and The Joker
is not a long fight.
662
00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:40,067
A fight between Batman and Bane
is an epic every time.
663
00:31:42,444 --> 00:31:45,447
And I think Chris needed
to challenge Batman physically.
664
00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:47,533
[Bane] You fight like
a younger man
665
00:31:47,574 --> 00:31:49,952
with nothing held back.
666
00:31:49,993 --> 00:31:51,954
And while
it wasn't easy
to find an actor
667
00:31:51,995 --> 00:31:54,331
that was equal part
brute force and intellect,
668
00:31:54,373 --> 00:31:56,834
once again Nolan
drew on the cast
from Inception.
669
00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:59,711
They cast Tom Hardy
and I thought, well,
that guy's terrific.
670
00:31:59,753 --> 00:32:01,255
There's very few
Hollywood actors
671
00:32:01,296 --> 00:32:04,466
who I would be afraid
to meet in a dark alley.
672
00:32:04,508 --> 00:32:08,387
Tom Hardy is a dude
who actually is scary.
673
00:32:08,428 --> 00:32:10,514
If I pull that off,
will you die?
674
00:32:10,556 --> 00:32:13,267
It would be extremely painful.
675
00:32:13,308 --> 00:32:15,477
- You're a big guy.
- For you.
676
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,896
If Bane
was Batman's physical test,
677
00:32:17,938 --> 00:32:20,274
Catwoman would be
his emotional challenge.
678
00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:22,067
He doesn't know how to love.
679
00:32:23,402 --> 00:32:25,529
He lost his parents
when he was a kid.
680
00:32:25,571 --> 00:32:28,782
He has no idea
how to care about anybody.
681
00:32:28,824 --> 00:32:30,117
Come with me.
682
00:32:30,158 --> 00:32:32,077
Producers had chosen
Anne Hathaway
683
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:36,540
over the likes of Blake Lively,
Natalie Portman,
Eva Green and Kate Mara.
684
00:32:36,582 --> 00:32:38,792
But Anne Hathaway's job
playing Catwoman
685
00:32:38,834 --> 00:32:42,462
was made trickier,
thanks to the rise
of internet fanboy culture,
686
00:32:42,504 --> 00:32:44,923
which responded
with such toxic vitriol
687
00:32:44,965 --> 00:32:46,633
- that it was dubbed--
- "Hathahate."
688
00:32:46,675 --> 00:32:48,510
The main
accusation being--
689
00:32:48,552 --> 00:32:51,930
That she has this veryPrincess Diaries feel to her.
690
00:32:51,972 --> 00:32:53,974
But when you think of Catwoman,
691
00:32:54,016 --> 00:32:58,353
you don't think of bright
and shiny and bubbly
and Disney and princesses.
692
00:32:58,395 --> 00:33:02,107
There was one other
time-honored Batman character
that would feature heavily
693
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:03,859
in Nolan's last word on Batman.
694
00:33:03,901 --> 00:33:08,155
Chris felt that this is
the final film in the trilogy,
695
00:33:08,197 --> 00:33:11,241
and he wanted to get
the spectacle much bigger.
696
00:33:11,283 --> 00:33:13,327
A character there
from the very beginning:
697
00:33:13,368 --> 00:33:15,704
New York-- I mean, Gotham City.
698
00:33:15,746 --> 00:33:18,248
Gotham really is New York.
699
00:33:18,290 --> 00:33:19,917
Or they
chose it because...
700
00:33:19,958 --> 00:33:23,128
They basically just shot
every corner of Chicago already.
701
00:33:23,170 --> 00:33:25,589
But New York would be
its own challenge to shoot.
702
00:33:25,631 --> 00:33:27,090
Because it's bigger.
703
00:33:27,132 --> 00:33:28,717
And not just the city.
704
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,136
My initial impression
of the script
was that it was massive.
705
00:33:31,178 --> 00:33:35,682
Pushing the limits
of the way that you could tell
a story like that.
706
00:33:35,724 --> 00:33:38,393
He was gonna go all out
to make this huge.
707
00:33:38,435 --> 00:33:40,604
But would Nolan
be all out of luck?
708
00:33:44,983 --> 00:33:48,862
The Big Apple
is a notoriously
difficult place to film.
709
00:33:48,904 --> 00:33:51,448
But New York did have
one geographical advantage.
710
00:33:51,490 --> 00:33:54,117
Because it's an island
which is important
for the story.
711
00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,286
In which Bane
isolates the city
712
00:33:56,328 --> 00:33:59,164
by blowing up all but one
of its bridges to the mainland.
713
00:33:59,206 --> 00:34:04,086
Bana putting the city
under siege in a way
we've never seen it before.
714
00:34:04,127 --> 00:34:06,463
But Nolan also
needed New York for something
715
00:34:06,505 --> 00:34:08,924
that only the real Wall Street
could perfectly capture.
716
00:34:08,966 --> 00:34:10,467
-
-
717
00:34:10,509 --> 00:34:15,472
Chris was very attuned
to political
and social dynamics.
718
00:34:15,514 --> 00:34:17,349
It was the age
of Occupy Wall Street
719
00:34:17,391 --> 00:34:21,061
and for perhaps
the first time ever,
Batman was getting political.
720
00:34:21,103 --> 00:34:23,897
This is a radical,
in the political sense,
721
00:34:23,939 --> 00:34:26,942
a revolutionary,
anarchic script.
722
00:34:26,984 --> 00:34:31,446
The powerful will be ripped
from their decadent nests.
723
00:34:31,488 --> 00:34:33,866
His first
assistant director
had concerns.
724
00:34:33,907 --> 00:34:35,576
Was Batman turning red?
725
00:34:35,617 --> 00:34:37,035
You really want to do that?
726
00:34:37,077 --> 00:34:39,036
Are you really gonna make
a commie Batman?
727
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:42,291
The one-percenters
were now
public enemy number one.
728
00:34:42,332 --> 00:34:45,127
[Otero] People talk about
occupying Wall Street.
729
00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:46,628
They didn't occupy Wall Street.
730
00:34:46,670 --> 00:34:48,547
They occupied a park
near Wall Street.
731
00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:50,340
I occupied Wall Street.
732
00:34:50,382 --> 00:34:53,510
Both outside
and inside
the New York Stock Exchange.
733
00:34:53,552 --> 00:34:55,846
We had to be
super, super careful, you know.
734
00:34:55,888 --> 00:34:57,764
We couldn't touch anything.
735
00:34:57,806 --> 00:35:00,809
Everything had to be removed
and replaced with stuff
that we could break.
736
00:35:00,851 --> 00:35:04,479
And this was
going to be a riot.
One way or another.
737
00:35:04,521 --> 00:35:06,815
When we did our riot there,
738
00:35:06,857 --> 00:35:10,319
there's 600 stunt players
in the street.
That's a real fight.
739
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,613
That's not CG bullshit
in the background.
740
00:35:12,654 --> 00:35:16,033
Hundreds
of performers were needed
for the choreographed fight.
741
00:35:16,074 --> 00:35:20,536
That's pairs, rehearsed,
for three days.
742
00:35:20,579 --> 00:35:24,166
It's all happening
on screen. Big.
743
00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:28,295
[Sneider] New York City,
getting it wrong,
would be just a disaster.
744
00:35:28,337 --> 00:35:31,340
However, some of the bigger
action scenes
745
00:35:31,381 --> 00:35:34,843
allowed Chris to really
flex his filmmaking muscles.
746
00:35:34,885 --> 00:35:38,096
And driving
through the melee,
hoping not to kill anyone,
747
00:35:38,138 --> 00:35:39,640
was stuntman Jim Wilkey.
748
00:35:39,681 --> 00:35:41,975
The Tumblers were
very difficult to see out of.
749
00:35:42,017 --> 00:35:43,268
That was the hardest part.
750
00:35:44,937 --> 00:35:46,980
Trying not to run over
any extras. You know?
751
00:35:47,022 --> 00:35:48,940
But there was
another danger.
752
00:35:48,982 --> 00:35:50,609
One that came from above.
753
00:35:50,651 --> 00:35:53,362
The, uh, flying Bat-deal.
754
00:35:53,402 --> 00:35:56,823
Officially known
as The Bat,
it was the film's new vehicle.
755
00:35:56,864 --> 00:35:58,534
Initially, I was
very disappointed
756
00:35:58,575 --> 00:36:01,286
that Chris had written
into this flying thing.
757
00:36:01,328 --> 00:36:04,623
Because it actually
had to, for real.
758
00:36:04,665 --> 00:36:08,210
I know my guys are good,
but even we can't get
that thing flying.
759
00:36:08,252 --> 00:36:10,128
And he said,
"Well, let's talk about it."
760
00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:13,966
It quickly became apparent
that there was a lot
we could do.
761
00:36:14,007 --> 00:36:18,094
We had a high speed vehicle
that this whole Bat
flying vehicle was mounted on.
762
00:36:18,136 --> 00:36:20,848
Which could drive
along the streets
at 70 miles an hour.
763
00:36:20,889 --> 00:36:23,892
It could tilt both ways.
It could dip down.
764
00:36:25,561 --> 00:36:29,648
Yeah, we probably did about 50%
of the footage in the end.
765
00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:34,152
- But practically--
- [Otero] Just incredible
Just amazing practical work.
766
00:36:34,194 --> 00:36:36,780
Unfortunately,
not all of
the technical challenges
767
00:36:36,822 --> 00:36:38,323
on The Dark Knight Rises
768
00:36:38,364 --> 00:36:39,741
were as easy to overcome.
769
00:36:39,783 --> 00:36:42,077
They didn't understand the mask.
770
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:43,996
And then the problems
they had with audio
771
00:36:44,036 --> 00:36:46,290
because you couldn't
understand what he was saying.
772
00:36:46,331 --> 00:36:48,917
- [Batman grunts]
- Peace has cost you
your strength.
773
00:36:48,959 --> 00:36:51,378
Do I wish that we could
understand him
a little bit more?
774
00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:52,546
Yes.
775
00:36:52,588 --> 00:36:54,756
- And they shall appear.
- [Dixon] What?
776
00:36:54,797 --> 00:36:57,259
I was like,
"No, this isn't working."
777
00:36:57,301 --> 00:37:00,512
Tom Hardy
wasn't the only one
wrestling with his costume.
778
00:37:00,554 --> 00:37:03,015
[Otero] Christian hated the suit,
Anne hated the suit.
779
00:37:03,056 --> 00:37:07,477
You know,
much of my job is really
trying to persuade millionaires
780
00:37:07,518 --> 00:37:08,604
to just, you know,
781
00:37:09,771 --> 00:37:11,565
one more before
they can take a pee.
782
00:37:11,607 --> 00:37:14,610
That's a lot
of what first AD'ing is.
783
00:37:14,651 --> 00:37:17,154
So it was perhaps
with a full bladder,
784
00:37:17,196 --> 00:37:20,407
that Bruce Wayne
finally found love
with Selina Kyle.
785
00:37:20,449 --> 00:37:22,951
The day that he's happy,
that's the end of Batman.
786
00:37:22,993 --> 00:37:26,246
And Christian Bale
put the final touch
on his portrayal of Batman.
787
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,832
He made the role his own.
788
00:37:28,873 --> 00:37:32,335
Consider me biased,
but I think
he is the best Batman.
789
00:37:32,377 --> 00:37:34,963
Even Anne Hathaway
silenced her critics.
790
00:37:35,005 --> 00:37:36,381
I thought she did a great job.
791
00:37:38,217 --> 00:37:39,551
Cat got your tongue.
792
00:37:39,593 --> 00:37:42,012
That's the whole very essence
of being an actress.
793
00:37:42,054 --> 00:37:44,806
That you can just...
you can play a role.
794
00:37:44,848 --> 00:37:48,185
The journey had
delivered the film's director
to a new place also.
795
00:37:48,227 --> 00:37:50,729
I watched Chris grow from,
796
00:37:50,771 --> 00:37:53,440
not being a rookie
action director,
797
00:37:53,482 --> 00:37:56,527
but semi-limited knowledge
of what could be achieved,
798
00:37:56,568 --> 00:38:00,948
to by the end,
being a master of everything
he did with the action.
799
00:38:00,989 --> 00:38:02,449
And for Chris Corbould,
800
00:38:02,491 --> 00:38:04,326
who had made
the impossible possible
801
00:38:04,368 --> 00:38:06,286
over all three Nolan films...
802
00:38:06,328 --> 00:38:09,957
There were times where I could
have easily walked away
with heads in hands,
803
00:38:09,998 --> 00:38:13,377
but when you realize
what the final result is,
it's all been worth it.
804
00:38:13,418 --> 00:38:15,754
Whether it would
be worth it for Warner's,
805
00:38:15,796 --> 00:38:19,842
would depend on how
The Dark Knight Risescompared to its predecessor.
806
00:38:19,883 --> 00:38:21,468
The Dark Knight Rises
actually beat it.
807
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:24,221
Which I wasn't sure
was going to be the case
808
00:38:24,263 --> 00:38:27,306
without Harvey Dent
and The Joker.
809
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:29,935
But it's a testament
to how well receivedThe Dark Knight was,
810
00:38:29,977 --> 00:38:33,021
where everyone's like,
"We have to see the sequel
no matter who's in it."
811
00:38:33,063 --> 00:38:36,483
And despite being
the worst reviewed film
of the trilogy,
812
00:38:36,525 --> 00:38:40,988
Dark Knight Risesrose to gross over
a billion dollars globally,
813
00:38:41,029 --> 00:38:44,324
making it the highest grossing
Batman film to date.
814
00:38:44,366 --> 00:38:46,618
But when Warner Bros. asked
if Christopher Nolan
815
00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:48,661
or Christian Bale
wanted to return,
816
00:38:48,704 --> 00:38:51,081
both men politely declined.
817
00:38:51,123 --> 00:38:52,791
And the studio
was left to wonder,
818
00:38:52,833 --> 00:38:54,960
what did the future
look like for Batman?
819
00:38:58,547 --> 00:39:00,257
Over thirty years ago,
820
00:39:00,299 --> 00:39:03,260
when Michael Uslan
set out to get Batman
on the big screen,
821
00:39:03,302 --> 00:39:05,387
he had one goal in mind.
822
00:39:05,429 --> 00:39:08,306
[Uslan] Go out and make
dark and serious Batman movies.
823
00:39:08,348 --> 00:39:11,810
Nobody's ever seen
a dark and serious
comic book movie before.
824
00:39:11,852 --> 00:39:16,440
Luckily for him,
the studio hired the one man
who shared that vision.
825
00:39:16,481 --> 00:39:19,610
[Wuhl] It's Tim Burton.
He changed everything.
826
00:39:19,651 --> 00:39:21,987
Tim Burton
should receive a royalty
827
00:39:22,029 --> 00:39:24,907
for every Marvel movie,
828
00:39:24,948 --> 00:39:27,743
DC movie,
any kind of comic book movie,
829
00:39:27,784 --> 00:39:29,578
- because it's all him.
- Action!
830
00:39:29,620 --> 00:39:31,413
Tim Burton wanted
to do something
831
00:39:31,455 --> 00:39:33,415
that was dripping in shadows.
832
00:39:33,457 --> 00:39:37,503
That movie changed the way
audiences experienced movies.
833
00:39:37,544 --> 00:39:40,881
Setting in motion
some 25 years of Warner Bros.
834
00:39:40,922 --> 00:39:43,091
struggling to balance
their commercial interests...
835
00:39:43,133 --> 00:39:45,302
McDonald's did not
love our movie.
836
00:39:45,344 --> 00:39:47,094
...with their
artistic ones.
837
00:39:47,137 --> 00:39:51,892
Whenever you make a film,
you wish and hope
and pray it will work.
838
00:39:51,934 --> 00:39:53,936
There is a good one.
839
00:39:53,977 --> 00:39:57,022
And it'll be a financial success
and everything will be happy.
840
00:39:57,064 --> 00:39:59,358
But you can't have 100%.
841
00:39:59,399 --> 00:40:02,194
No one sets out
to make a shitty movie.
842
00:40:02,236 --> 00:40:08,617
For what is Batman?
If not an effort to master
the chaos that sweeps our world.
843
00:40:08,659 --> 00:40:09,952
And when I look back on it,
844
00:40:09,993 --> 00:40:12,871
to think that that agony
845
00:40:12,913 --> 00:40:16,123
resulted ultimately
in Christopher Nolan coming in
846
00:40:16,166 --> 00:40:19,127
to restore the darkness
and dignity to Batman.
847
00:40:19,169 --> 00:40:20,796
It was worth it all.
848
00:40:20,838 --> 00:40:22,381
You still haven't
given up on me.
849
00:40:24,883 --> 00:40:27,135
Never.
850
00:40:27,177 --> 00:40:30,764
[Otero] Batman Beginsrevitalized the franchise.
851
00:40:30,806 --> 00:40:33,600
It was a bubblegum movie
that was taken seriously.
852
00:40:33,642 --> 00:40:35,435
Proving once
and for all...
853
00:40:35,477 --> 00:40:38,564
You could make a serious film
out of that genre.
854
00:40:38,605 --> 00:40:42,693
Christopher Nolan,
setting the fantastical
in a realistic setting,
855
00:40:42,734 --> 00:40:45,487
would become a template
for all modern superhero films.
856
00:40:45,529 --> 00:40:47,197
This is just the beginning.
857
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,992
One thing that Chris always said
is that Batman
isn't a superhero.
858
00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:54,161
He's a normal guy who just has
a few things to help him out.
859
00:40:54,204 --> 00:40:57,623
But as Warner Bros.
expands and reinvents
the Batman mythology,
860
00:40:57,666 --> 00:41:00,460
who knows what the character
might become?
861
00:41:00,502 --> 00:41:03,881
Oh, and incidentally,
Billy Dee finally
got to play Two-Face
862
00:41:03,922 --> 00:41:06,425
in the highly successful
LEGO Batman Movie.
863
00:41:06,466 --> 00:41:08,302
Yes.
864
00:41:08,343 --> 00:41:10,469
- Two-Face.
- We need that door open, baby.
865
00:41:10,512 --> 00:41:12,848
I did finally become Two-Face.
866
00:41:12,890 --> 00:41:16,685
And I always find that
really quite amusing.
867
00:41:16,727 --> 00:41:20,606
From page to screen,
the story of this tortured,
lonely hero,
868
00:41:20,647 --> 00:41:22,357
gripped by a sense of vengeance
869
00:41:22,399 --> 00:41:24,526
with a surprisingly accurate
moral compass,
870
00:41:24,568 --> 00:41:28,280
Batman is a story
we're willing to hear
again and again.
871
00:41:28,322 --> 00:41:31,950
There are literally hundreds
of versions of Batman
872
00:41:31,992 --> 00:41:36,038
and every single one of 'em,
is as equally valid as the next.
873
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:40,000
Which means the core essence
of the character
is so profoundly,
874
00:41:40,042 --> 00:41:44,046
perfectly realized
that it can survive
all these iterations.
875
00:41:44,087 --> 00:41:46,006
That's the magic of Batman.
876
00:41:46,047 --> 00:41:48,342
Not only
has the character survived,
877
00:41:48,383 --> 00:41:52,971
but he's left an indelible mark
on all who have
come into contact with him.
878
00:41:53,013 --> 00:41:55,098
Batman changed
everything for me.
879
00:41:55,140 --> 00:41:58,936
Changed my entire life
and trajectory of my career.
880
00:41:58,977 --> 00:42:02,731
It was like a dream come true.
Just constantly having fun.
881
00:42:02,773 --> 00:42:06,026
- Just a great experience.
- Complete and utter pleasure.
882
00:42:06,068 --> 00:42:08,027
It was a really great
time in my life
883
00:42:08,070 --> 00:42:10,030
and a wonderful experience.
884
00:42:10,072 --> 00:42:12,366
Never dreamed I'd write
any of the Batman characters.
885
00:42:12,407 --> 00:42:14,993
[Sean Young] I wish my story
could have
turned out differently.
886
00:42:15,035 --> 00:42:16,661
I love Batman.
887
00:42:16,703 --> 00:42:19,081
This is how the ball bounces,
as they say.
888
00:42:20,666 --> 00:42:22,960
Batman's creators,
Bob Kane and Bill Finger,
889
00:42:23,001 --> 00:42:25,420
would no doubt be proud
of the way their character
890
00:42:25,462 --> 00:42:28,632
has jumped off the page
and into people's imaginations.
891
00:42:31,552 --> 00:42:33,804
You can take
a silhouette of Batman,
892
00:42:33,846 --> 00:42:36,223
you take it to any country
in the world,
893
00:42:36,265 --> 00:42:37,766
they're gonna know
what Batman is.
894
00:42:37,808 --> 00:42:39,685
That's astonishing.
895
00:42:39,726 --> 00:42:42,354
And as for
the one man
with a dogged determination
896
00:42:42,396 --> 00:42:45,107
to see his favorite superhero
up on the big screen.
897
00:42:45,148 --> 00:42:49,069
[Uslan] I bought the rights
to Batman in 1979.
898
00:42:49,111 --> 00:42:53,407
I really was turned down
by every single studio
899
00:42:53,448 --> 00:42:56,410
and mini-major in Hollywood.
900
00:42:56,451 --> 00:42:59,246
I was told,
"Michael, you are crazy."
901
00:42:59,288 --> 00:43:04,960
I was told repeatedly,
"This is the worst idea
we ever heard."
902
00:43:05,002 --> 00:43:10,215
I needed to figure out
how to hold on by my fingertips
for ten years.
903
00:43:10,257 --> 00:43:14,011
I carried this responsibility
for Bill Finger, Bob Kane.
904
00:43:14,052 --> 00:43:16,054
I carried it for DC Comics.
905
00:43:16,096 --> 00:43:17,931
I carried it for every fan
906
00:43:17,973 --> 00:43:22,643
who knew the history,
the background,
the creation of Batman.
907
00:43:22,686 --> 00:43:24,396
I believed that
somehow, someday,
908
00:43:24,438 --> 00:43:26,648
I am going to show the world
the true Batman.
909
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,359
Because I knew,
910
00:43:29,401 --> 00:43:32,070
this is gonna be like
a new form of entertainment.
911
00:43:32,112 --> 00:43:34,406
And in the end,
I was right.
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