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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,083 --> 00:00:03,250 ERIK: We've been following up on what appears, 2 00:00:03,375 --> 00:00:05,000 from our view through lidar, 3 00:00:05,167 --> 00:00:07,708 to be an invisible bubble. 4 00:00:09,917 --> 00:00:11,625 TRAVIS: We've got something on the mesa! 5 00:00:11,833 --> 00:00:12,833 PETE: That makes no sense. 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:13,750 DAVE: Y'all got some 7 00:00:13,875 --> 00:00:15,000 weird mojo out here. 8 00:00:15,125 --> 00:00:16,792 JIM: Hey, Travis, I get over 9 00:00:16,958 --> 00:00:19,042 Dry Gulch Creek, start losing all communication 10 00:00:19,208 --> 00:00:21,167 -on the drone. -That's crazy. 11 00:00:21,375 --> 00:00:24,792 BEN: We had Colossal test this DNA of the animal 12 00:00:24,875 --> 00:00:25,792 we found on the ranch 13 00:00:25,917 --> 00:00:28,208 against the DNA of other species 14 00:00:28,375 --> 00:00:31,500 of canines. 89% is a mystery. 15 00:00:31,708 --> 00:00:33,500 That's really exciting. 16 00:00:34,542 --> 00:00:38,000 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 17 00:00:38,208 --> 00:00:40,625 It is considered the epicenter 18 00:00:40,792 --> 00:00:45,875 of the strangest and most disturbing occurrences on Earth. 19 00:00:46,042 --> 00:00:47,208 For two decades, 20 00:00:47,375 --> 00:00:49,042 the federal government 21 00:00:49,208 --> 00:00:51,208 investigated the property. 22 00:00:51,333 --> 00:00:54,875 Their findings have never been made public. 23 00:00:55,042 --> 00:00:56,000 TRAVIS: Right there! We got something! 24 00:00:56,167 --> 00:00:58,125 NARRATOR: Now a new team 25 00:00:58,292 --> 00:01:00,833 of independent scientists and researchers 26 00:01:00,917 --> 00:01:02,083 are taking over. 27 00:01:02,708 --> 00:01:04,000 They are uncovering evidence 28 00:01:04,125 --> 00:01:05,917 that the countless stories... 29 00:01:06,083 --> 00:01:07,958 It came right out of the mesa. 30 00:01:08,125 --> 00:01:10,375 ...of unidentified aerial phenomena... 31 00:01:10,542 --> 00:01:11,875 -UAP right there! -KALEB: Yep. 32 00:01:12,042 --> 00:01:13,583 ...bizarre energies... 33 00:01:13,708 --> 00:01:15,500 It looks like there's a heat source right above 'em. 34 00:01:15,708 --> 00:01:18,458 ...and portals that lead to other dimensions... 35 00:01:18,542 --> 00:01:19,625 We're maybe looking at the anomaly 36 00:01:19,792 --> 00:01:21,167 for the first time, guys. 37 00:01:21,333 --> 00:01:23,583 ...might actually be true. 38 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:26,500 They will stop at nothing to reveal... 39 00:01:29,250 --> 00:01:32,708 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 40 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:41,208 DYLAN: Hey, guys. How's it going? 41 00:01:41,375 --> 00:01:42,917 ERIK: Welcome to the ranch, guys. I'm Erik Bard. 42 00:01:43,083 --> 00:01:44,958 I'm Dylan. Nice to meet you. 43 00:01:45,125 --> 00:01:46,667 Dominique. Nice to meet you. 44 00:01:46,792 --> 00:01:48,000 ERIK: Gentlemen, we're so glad 45 00:01:48,167 --> 00:01:49,708 to have you out to help with our investigations. 46 00:01:49,833 --> 00:01:50,917 Absolutely. 47 00:01:51,083 --> 00:01:52,333 TRAVIS: For six years, 48 00:01:52,500 --> 00:01:54,292 our team's been working to figure out 49 00:01:54,417 --> 00:01:57,000 all the strange things we've encountered on Skinwalker Ranch. 50 00:01:57,208 --> 00:02:01,250 So today, we brought a team from US Kites out 51 00:02:01,417 --> 00:02:03,167 to help us learn more about one phenomenon 52 00:02:03,333 --> 00:02:05,625 that's pretty much at the top of that list. 53 00:02:06,625 --> 00:02:09,708 Our intent today is to do an experiment 54 00:02:09,875 --> 00:02:13,208 to measure a particular phenomena that we've discovered 55 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:16,167 here recently that we call the bubble. 56 00:02:16,375 --> 00:02:17,833 -Erik, you want to tell them about it? -Yeah, sure. 57 00:02:18,042 --> 00:02:19,542 As abstract as it sounds, 58 00:02:19,708 --> 00:02:22,417 we seem to have detected some kind of a structure. 59 00:02:22,625 --> 00:02:24,958 You know, at first, we got the impression that we might be 60 00:02:25,125 --> 00:02:27,667 dealing with something like a very large sphere, 61 00:02:27,875 --> 00:02:29,208 not unlike a bubble, 62 00:02:29,417 --> 00:02:31,083 and we're standing right inside of that bubble, 63 00:02:31,250 --> 00:02:34,083 where there's an effect, it may be 64 00:02:34,250 --> 00:02:36,333 something electromagnetic we have yet to determine. 65 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:38,500 TRAVIS: According to the data we've collected 66 00:02:38,583 --> 00:02:40,458 from numerous lidar instruments, 67 00:02:40,583 --> 00:02:42,250 we believe that there is a gigantic 68 00:02:42,417 --> 00:02:44,333 bubble-shaped feature on the ranch 69 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:46,750 that is invisible to the human eye. 70 00:02:46,917 --> 00:02:48,417 It's centered at the triangle 71 00:02:48,542 --> 00:02:50,958 and encompasses a huge area of the property, 72 00:02:51,083 --> 00:02:53,250 both above and below ground, 73 00:02:53,375 --> 00:02:55,625 where we've seen all kinds of things, 74 00:02:55,833 --> 00:02:59,125 such as possible evidence of a black hole-like phenomenon 75 00:02:59,292 --> 00:03:01,625 and tons of UAPs. 76 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:03,208 ERIK: We've had just about everything 77 00:03:03,375 --> 00:03:05,167 out here, you know? We've had helicopters, 78 00:03:05,333 --> 00:03:06,917 you know, fixed-wing aircraft, 79 00:03:07,042 --> 00:03:08,833 of course, drones, rockets. 80 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,792 -TRAVIS: Plenty of rockets. -ERIK: Plenty of rockets. 81 00:03:10,875 --> 00:03:12,167 But we've not yet had 82 00:03:12,375 --> 00:03:13,958 one of these Helikite platforms out here. 83 00:03:14,125 --> 00:03:15,375 Okay. 84 00:03:15,542 --> 00:03:17,208 TRAVIS: We don't know how, 85 00:03:17,417 --> 00:03:19,500 but whatever this bubble is, it seems to have thwarted 86 00:03:19,667 --> 00:03:22,583 almost every investigative tool that we've used 87 00:03:22,750 --> 00:03:24,958 to figure out what the heck it could be. 88 00:03:25,167 --> 00:03:27,375 Last week, Jim Royston's lidar drone 89 00:03:27,542 --> 00:03:29,167 even seemed to get stopped 90 00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:31,042 right at its southern boundary. 91 00:03:31,208 --> 00:03:33,125 So today, we're hoping to figure out 92 00:03:33,292 --> 00:03:34,667 how it could do that 93 00:03:34,792 --> 00:03:36,833 by using a specialized piece of equipment 94 00:03:37,042 --> 00:03:38,542 known as a Helikite. 95 00:03:38,750 --> 00:03:41,542 ERIK: Now, why do we call it the Helikite? 96 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:43,833 Well, it's a combination between a helium balloon and a kite. 97 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,042 How long can we stay aloft? 98 00:03:46,208 --> 00:03:47,083 As long as there's helium in that balloon. 99 00:03:47,250 --> 00:03:48,833 -Oh. -ERIK: Okay. 100 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,500 DOMINIQUE: It's actually a piece of military equipment. 101 00:03:50,667 --> 00:03:52,333 Wow. Well, we've got some instruments that we want 102 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:54,833 to attach to this Helikite. 103 00:03:56,125 --> 00:03:57,042 TRAVIS: What excites us about 104 00:03:57,250 --> 00:03:58,625 the Helikite is that we can 105 00:03:58,792 --> 00:04:00,667 attach our instruments to it and then let it 106 00:04:00,875 --> 00:04:03,833 hover in the air right inside the bubble's barrier 107 00:04:04,042 --> 00:04:06,792 to help us collect data on it while we run a new experiment. 108 00:04:06,917 --> 00:04:09,292 ERIK: Yeah, I want to get out there to the east field canyon 109 00:04:09,375 --> 00:04:11,292 -and get started. -All right. 110 00:04:11,458 --> 00:04:13,417 -TRAVIS: I say we get with it. -DOMINIQUE: Yeah, let's go. 111 00:04:15,667 --> 00:04:18,708 TRAVIS: Since we first detected evidence of the bubble, 112 00:04:18,917 --> 00:04:20,083 we've been running experiments 113 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:22,000 inside of it to verify its dimensions 114 00:04:22,125 --> 00:04:25,125 and see what other strange things it might contain. 115 00:04:25,292 --> 00:04:27,167 But today, we want to see what happens 116 00:04:27,292 --> 00:04:28,625 when we attempt to penetrate 117 00:04:28,750 --> 00:04:30,542 its boundary with different instruments. 118 00:04:30,708 --> 00:04:33,667 So, Thomas is going to tow the Helikite 119 00:04:33,833 --> 00:04:34,750 out to the east field 120 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:36,375 using a UTV, 121 00:04:36,542 --> 00:04:38,417 where it will hang several hundred feet high, 122 00:04:38,583 --> 00:04:40,833 right in the eastern wall of the bubble, 123 00:04:41,042 --> 00:04:43,250 collecting data with several of our instruments 124 00:04:43,417 --> 00:04:45,000 that are attached to it. 125 00:04:47,042 --> 00:04:48,375 JIM: This is a good setup. 126 00:04:49,625 --> 00:04:51,167 TRAVIS: These will include a GPS tracker, 127 00:04:51,375 --> 00:04:53,708 high-speed cameras and a signal generator 128 00:04:53,917 --> 00:04:56,125 that will continually broadcast a frequency 129 00:04:56,292 --> 00:04:58,583 at 1.2 gigahertz. 130 00:04:58,750 --> 00:05:00,000 All right. 131 00:05:00,208 --> 00:05:01,500 Yeah, good. 132 00:05:01,708 --> 00:05:03,000 ERIK: So, 133 00:05:03,083 --> 00:05:05,250 I think I've got everything just about set up. 134 00:05:05,375 --> 00:05:07,625 TRAVIS: 1.2 gigahertz is a signal 135 00:05:07,792 --> 00:05:10,000 that none of our other equipment broadcasts, 136 00:05:10,167 --> 00:05:12,250 so Erik can easily monitor it 137 00:05:12,417 --> 00:05:14,500 for unusual interference with his Kraken system. 138 00:05:14,708 --> 00:05:16,292 We've recently detected 139 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:18,542 strange 1.2 gigahertz signals on the ranch. 140 00:05:18,708 --> 00:05:21,333 The Kraken system can also pinpoint the direction 141 00:05:21,542 --> 00:05:24,667 of any of those 1.2 gigahertz signals that might pop up. 142 00:05:24,875 --> 00:05:26,708 THOMAS: All right, so here's your line. 143 00:05:26,875 --> 00:05:28,167 DYLAN: All right, yep. 144 00:05:28,333 --> 00:05:30,208 And then, this is how it's gonna fly, 145 00:05:30,375 --> 00:05:31,375 -right up from here. -THOMAS: Okay. 146 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:33,542 (air hissing) 147 00:05:35,333 --> 00:05:36,583 DYLAN: Little bit more. 148 00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:38,208 All right. 149 00:05:38,375 --> 00:05:40,500 And that's about good. 150 00:05:40,667 --> 00:05:43,125 TRAVIS: Once the Helikite is in place, 151 00:05:43,292 --> 00:05:45,292 Jim Royston will launch his lidar drone 152 00:05:45,417 --> 00:05:46,708 from outside of the bubble, 153 00:05:46,875 --> 00:05:48,833 and then fly it through the barrier. 154 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,458 Meanwhile, I'll be positioned 155 00:05:50,625 --> 00:05:52,208 to the east of the bubble. 156 00:05:52,375 --> 00:05:53,917 From there, I'm going to launch rockets 157 00:05:54,083 --> 00:05:56,458 in a westward direction into the bubble 158 00:05:56,583 --> 00:05:58,625 to see if anything strange happens 159 00:05:58,792 --> 00:06:01,167 once they pass through its eastern barrier. 160 00:06:01,375 --> 00:06:05,125 Okay, Erik, we're going to turn on the 1.2 161 00:06:05,333 --> 00:06:07,833 gigahertz transmitter on the payload board. 162 00:06:08,042 --> 00:06:09,708 Copy. 163 00:06:15,708 --> 00:06:16,583 Boom. 164 00:06:16,750 --> 00:06:18,250 Okay, Travis, 165 00:06:18,417 --> 00:06:20,625 I do have the Kraken 166 00:06:20,833 --> 00:06:23,500 locating that 1.2 gigahertz transmitter. 167 00:06:23,667 --> 00:06:26,167 Copy that. I'm seeing it on my spectrum analyzers 168 00:06:26,333 --> 00:06:27,458 as well. 169 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:30,250 I am about to 170 00:06:30,375 --> 00:06:32,042 turn on the GPS. 171 00:06:32,208 --> 00:06:33,875 ERIK: Copy you, Travis. 172 00:06:39,167 --> 00:06:41,625 ERIK: We are seeing the signal. 173 00:06:43,250 --> 00:06:45,667 ERIK: Oh, oh, oh. 174 00:06:45,750 --> 00:06:46,875 Oh. 175 00:06:47,875 --> 00:06:49,333 Look at that. 176 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:51,333 SAM: That's crazy. 177 00:06:51,458 --> 00:06:55,792 This GPS tracker took a deep dive underground. 178 00:06:57,375 --> 00:06:58,708 Interesting. 179 00:06:59,667 --> 00:07:01,500 Hey, Travis, you copy? 180 00:07:01,708 --> 00:07:03,500 Yeah, go ahead, Erik. 181 00:07:03,625 --> 00:07:05,167 ERIK: Just FYI, I've been 182 00:07:05,333 --> 00:07:08,333 monitoring the position of our GPS tracker, 183 00:07:08,542 --> 00:07:11,333 and several of the data points 184 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:13,417 there at your location have indicated 185 00:07:13,625 --> 00:07:15,917 that they've gone deep below ground. 186 00:07:16,875 --> 00:07:18,167 TRAVIS: That's really interesting. 187 00:07:18,375 --> 00:07:21,000 You know, we're outside the bubble here, 188 00:07:21,208 --> 00:07:23,500 down near the boundary. 189 00:07:23,667 --> 00:07:26,417 ERIK: I think it's significant that we're seeing 190 00:07:26,583 --> 00:07:29,208 the GPS tracker diving below ground. 191 00:07:29,375 --> 00:07:30,625 And what are we near? 192 00:07:30,750 --> 00:07:32,333 We're near that boundary of the bubble. 193 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:33,708 We've seen 194 00:07:33,875 --> 00:07:36,875 these errors, these erratic behaviors 195 00:07:37,083 --> 00:07:39,917 in experiments in the past, all around the ranch. 196 00:07:40,083 --> 00:07:41,417 Is it possible 197 00:07:41,583 --> 00:07:43,375 that the bubble could be responsible 198 00:07:43,542 --> 00:07:45,542 or somehow involved in all of the strange 199 00:07:45,708 --> 00:07:47,792 energetic events that we're seeing? 200 00:07:47,958 --> 00:07:50,042 TRAVIS: Keep an eye on it, let me know what goes on. 201 00:07:50,208 --> 00:07:51,792 Copy that. 202 00:07:51,958 --> 00:07:54,500 So, I'm keeping my eyes on this GPS tracking system 203 00:07:54,708 --> 00:07:57,792 to see if, when we bring it over to the Helikite 204 00:07:57,958 --> 00:08:01,417 and attach it to the platform, will the reported altitudes 205 00:08:01,583 --> 00:08:03,542 get above-ground results? 206 00:08:04,542 --> 00:08:06,917 DYLAN: All right. With that, we should be good. 207 00:08:07,083 --> 00:08:09,792 THOMAS: Helikite is ready to receive the payload. 208 00:08:09,958 --> 00:08:12,500 The cameras are rolling. All right, we're good to go, 209 00:08:12,708 --> 00:08:13,708 I'm going to take this. 210 00:08:13,875 --> 00:08:16,125 After hearing that the GPS data 211 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:18,125 was already getting messed up near the bubble... 212 00:08:19,083 --> 00:08:21,917 ...we couldn't wait to have Thomas tow the Helikite 213 00:08:22,083 --> 00:08:24,333 with the UTV over to its position 214 00:08:24,417 --> 00:08:25,917 at the eastern boundary of the bubble 215 00:08:26,083 --> 00:08:27,667 so we could get the experiment started. 216 00:08:27,792 --> 00:08:29,458 ERIK: Okay, Thomas, be advised, 217 00:08:29,583 --> 00:08:31,833 you are approaching the boundary 218 00:08:32,042 --> 00:08:34,750 -of the bubble. -THOMAS: Copy that. 219 00:08:35,667 --> 00:08:37,167 ERIK: Okay if you'll stop 220 00:08:37,375 --> 00:08:38,833 right there, let's see what we've got. 221 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,208 Copy that. 222 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:44,000 ERIK: You are now right at 223 00:08:44,167 --> 00:08:47,917 the inside boundary of the bubble. 224 00:08:48,042 --> 00:08:50,583 Leave it in that position for the duration. 225 00:08:50,708 --> 00:08:52,583 THOMAS: Copy that. 226 00:08:52,708 --> 00:08:54,125 TRAVIS: Once the Helikite was positioned 227 00:08:54,292 --> 00:08:56,500 right in the eastern barrier of the bubble, 228 00:08:56,625 --> 00:08:58,375 we wanted to get Jim's drone launched 229 00:08:58,542 --> 00:09:00,333 before I started firing rockets. 230 00:09:00,542 --> 00:09:03,208 All right Jim, have at it. 231 00:09:03,375 --> 00:09:05,542 JIM: Hold on. 232 00:09:05,708 --> 00:09:07,417 -TRAVIS: It's telling you errors? -JIM: Yeah, hold on. 233 00:09:07,542 --> 00:09:09,875 I can't take off. 234 00:09:12,583 --> 00:09:14,667 How is putting a balloon up in the sky 235 00:09:14,833 --> 00:09:16,292 keeping you from launching your drone? 236 00:09:16,417 --> 00:09:18,042 JIM: Who knows? 237 00:09:19,208 --> 00:09:20,583 I'm resetting everything. 238 00:09:22,208 --> 00:09:23,542 It's crazy. 239 00:09:24,417 --> 00:09:26,667 TRAIS: Wow, look at that. 240 00:09:26,792 --> 00:09:28,333 Something's happening. 241 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:30,917 Oh, dude! I'm-- This is crazy. 242 00:09:31,083 --> 00:09:33,667 One of my receivers is picking up 243 00:09:33,833 --> 00:09:35,750 -a 1.2 gigahertz signal... -JIM: Whoa. 244 00:09:35,917 --> 00:09:38,250 ...that we are not broadcasting. 245 00:09:38,417 --> 00:09:39,625 This is just insane. 246 00:09:39,792 --> 00:09:41,667 This is the signal we're transmitting, 247 00:09:41,833 --> 00:09:43,500 and suddenly, this line to the right of it 248 00:09:43,667 --> 00:09:45,375 appeared right as 249 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:47,667 the Helikite passed right into 250 00:09:47,833 --> 00:09:49,667 -the barrier wall. -JIM: And that's where I got my error. 251 00:09:49,875 --> 00:09:51,542 TRAVIS: That's insane. 252 00:09:53,875 --> 00:09:55,833 ERIK: That is very interesting, 253 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,125 'cause we've been talking about what may happen whenever 254 00:10:00,292 --> 00:10:02,667 a physical object passes through that boundary. 255 00:10:02,875 --> 00:10:03,917 That's really interesting. 256 00:10:04,083 --> 00:10:06,500 TRAVIS: That's crazy. Right when we get 257 00:10:06,708 --> 00:10:09,125 the Helikite up in the air in the bubble barrier, 258 00:10:09,333 --> 00:10:12,750 we detect another duplicate 1.2 gigahertz signal, 259 00:10:12,917 --> 00:10:14,792 and Jim's drone won't even fly. 260 00:10:14,958 --> 00:10:17,667 Did the Helikite making contact with the bubble 261 00:10:17,833 --> 00:10:19,500 trigger all of these things? 262 00:10:19,708 --> 00:10:21,333 All right, I am going to go get that rocket ready. 263 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:23,500 If that was the case, we wanted to see 264 00:10:23,625 --> 00:10:25,333 what would happen when I launched a rocket 265 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:26,542 through its eastern barrier. 266 00:10:26,708 --> 00:10:28,750 Hey, Erik, Thomas, 267 00:10:28,958 --> 00:10:32,250 I am ready to do the first rocket launch. 268 00:10:32,375 --> 00:10:34,208 Copy that. We're watching. 269 00:10:34,375 --> 00:10:36,375 We will be watching, too. 270 00:10:36,542 --> 00:10:38,167 Rocket's hot. 271 00:10:38,333 --> 00:10:39,833 In five, 272 00:10:40,042 --> 00:10:41,875 four, three, 273 00:10:42,042 --> 00:10:44,250 two, one! 274 00:10:49,708 --> 00:10:51,583 ERIK: It's going the wrong way. 275 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:54,583 Looks like it's going north. 276 00:10:54,750 --> 00:10:56,833 TRAVIS: Something pushed that rocket away. 277 00:10:57,042 --> 00:10:59,167 It just veered off in a totally different direction 278 00:10:59,292 --> 00:11:01,417 away from the bubble to the north. 279 00:11:01,542 --> 00:11:03,250 I think it went around it. 280 00:11:03,417 --> 00:11:04,875 ERIK: Wow. 281 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,250 TRAVIS: The rocket never made it through the bubble wall. 282 00:11:12,375 --> 00:11:14,333 No, it did not. 283 00:11:14,542 --> 00:11:17,000 It shot north, towards the mesa. 284 00:11:17,958 --> 00:11:19,750 TRAVIS: I don't understand that. 285 00:11:19,875 --> 00:11:21,833 We're trying to penetrate the bubble 286 00:11:22,042 --> 00:11:24,792 with rockets and Jim's drone. But somehow, 287 00:11:24,958 --> 00:11:27,042 whatever this thing is, it appears to 288 00:11:27,208 --> 00:11:30,042 stop them from going through its eastern barrier. 289 00:11:30,208 --> 00:11:31,250 But how can it do that? 290 00:11:31,417 --> 00:11:33,333 Hey, Erik, you copy? 291 00:11:34,458 --> 00:11:36,708 Yeah, Travis. What do you got? 292 00:11:36,875 --> 00:11:39,542 That last rocket trajectory was so weird, 293 00:11:39,708 --> 00:11:42,125 I'm gonna launch another one into the bubble, 294 00:11:42,292 --> 00:11:44,542 but I'm gonna aim it where I think it should land 295 00:11:44,708 --> 00:11:46,167 at the triangle. 296 00:11:46,292 --> 00:11:47,208 Copy that, Travis. 297 00:11:49,458 --> 00:11:51,208 TRAVIS: So, with the Helikite still hovering 298 00:11:51,375 --> 00:11:52,792 right in the eastern barrier of the bubble... 299 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,958 -All right, let's go. -I like it. 300 00:11:56,083 --> 00:11:57,833 ...I wanted to launch another rocket to see 301 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,208 if it would get deflected 302 00:11:59,333 --> 00:12:00,583 like the one I'd just fired. 303 00:12:00,750 --> 00:12:02,333 Rocket's hot. 304 00:12:02,542 --> 00:12:03,500 Three, 305 00:12:03,708 --> 00:12:07,208 two, one, liftoff! 306 00:12:09,583 --> 00:12:10,833 Look out! It went the wrong way! 307 00:12:11,042 --> 00:12:13,917 -What the crap? -Unbelievable. 308 00:12:14,042 --> 00:12:16,417 TRAVIS: Did y'all see that? That one deflected to the south, 309 00:12:16,583 --> 00:12:18,625 like it went around the bubble, too. 310 00:12:18,792 --> 00:12:20,500 -JIM: Yeah. -I think we just saw evidence 311 00:12:20,667 --> 00:12:22,708 -of this bubble -Yeah. Crazy. 312 00:12:22,875 --> 00:12:24,458 THOMAS: Well, neither one of those launches 313 00:12:24,583 --> 00:12:26,208 -went as planned. -No. 314 00:12:26,375 --> 00:12:29,417 There's absolutely no reason we should be seeing 315 00:12:29,542 --> 00:12:32,167 any of these malfunctions with the rocket launches. 316 00:12:32,333 --> 00:12:34,208 I don't know what it is, but it all lends 317 00:12:34,375 --> 00:12:36,333 credence to the fact that there is something 318 00:12:36,458 --> 00:12:38,333 about this bubble boundary 319 00:12:38,417 --> 00:12:40,792 that is causing interference. 320 00:12:40,917 --> 00:12:42,500 ERIK: Hey, Travis? Thomas? 321 00:12:42,667 --> 00:12:44,375 Yeah, Erik. Go ahead. 322 00:12:44,542 --> 00:12:45,875 I say we get 323 00:12:46,042 --> 00:12:47,958 everything wrapped up and, uh, reconvene 324 00:12:48,125 --> 00:12:50,167 once I can review the GPS and camera data on the Helikite. 325 00:12:51,250 --> 00:12:53,792 TRAVIS: Copy that. We'll see you in a bit. 326 00:12:53,917 --> 00:12:55,583 ERIK: Naturally, after seeing 327 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:57,708 this real-time GPS data take a deep dive 328 00:12:57,875 --> 00:12:59,833 below ground, I can't wait to start 329 00:12:59,958 --> 00:13:01,708 crunching the data to see if 330 00:13:01,875 --> 00:13:04,500 we see any indications of unusual activity. 331 00:13:04,708 --> 00:13:07,667 TRAVIS: Thomas, they can start bringing her down. 332 00:13:07,875 --> 00:13:10,125 THOMAS: Copy, we're bringing her down. 333 00:13:16,542 --> 00:13:19,667 ERIK: You ready to discuss our experience with 334 00:13:19,833 --> 00:13:21,500 the maiden voyage of our Helikite? 335 00:13:21,667 --> 00:13:23,042 Yes. 336 00:13:23,208 --> 00:13:24,667 TRAVIS: The next day, after processing 337 00:13:24,833 --> 00:13:26,167 the Helikite data, 338 00:13:26,333 --> 00:13:29,000 Erik called us into the command center for a debrief 339 00:13:29,167 --> 00:13:31,208 on everything that happened during the experiment. 340 00:13:31,375 --> 00:13:33,208 ERIK: This is a really 341 00:13:33,375 --> 00:13:35,333 interesting and new way for us to probe the bubble 342 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:36,500 that we've been talking about. 343 00:13:36,708 --> 00:13:38,125 TRAVIS: Yeah. I mean, remember 344 00:13:38,333 --> 00:13:40,708 how the one rocket turned north and went around 345 00:13:40,875 --> 00:13:42,833 this "barrier" 346 00:13:43,042 --> 00:13:44,500 to the north, and the other one went 347 00:13:44,708 --> 00:13:45,833 to the south and went around it. 348 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,917 -I know. -TRAVIS: Right? 349 00:13:48,042 --> 00:13:50,292 Yes. You know, we have a few things to discuss, 350 00:13:50,417 --> 00:13:52,250 but I want to start with some information 351 00:13:52,417 --> 00:13:54,500 that you have to share, Jim. I guess this is 352 00:13:54,625 --> 00:13:56,500 -your display, right? -Yeah. 353 00:13:56,667 --> 00:13:58,083 ERIK: It's my understanding that you experienced some difficulties 354 00:13:58,250 --> 00:13:59,667 with some interference with the drone itself 355 00:13:59,875 --> 00:14:01,333 during the experiment with the Helikite. 356 00:14:01,458 --> 00:14:03,167 Yeah, let me jump up there. 357 00:14:05,458 --> 00:14:06,875 We're looking at this boundary 358 00:14:07,042 --> 00:14:09,500 that's kind of somewhere in this range, right? 359 00:14:09,708 --> 00:14:11,000 That's the bubble. 360 00:14:11,208 --> 00:14:13,375 So, Thomas, this is where the Helikite was 361 00:14:13,542 --> 00:14:14,667 before you started moving it 362 00:14:14,833 --> 00:14:16,458 to the barrier of the bubble. 363 00:14:16,625 --> 00:14:18,083 Mm-hmm. 364 00:14:18,208 --> 00:14:21,417 So, this is the actual home point of the drone. 365 00:14:21,583 --> 00:14:22,833 We get ready to go, 366 00:14:22,958 --> 00:14:24,583 and as we start moving the Helikite 367 00:14:24,750 --> 00:14:27,833 down into the boundary, all of a sudden, 368 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,875 we're seeing this weak satellite signal. 369 00:14:31,083 --> 00:14:33,583 Which to me is very interesting data 370 00:14:33,750 --> 00:14:36,667 because I get 21 satellites, 371 00:14:36,833 --> 00:14:38,458 so that's plenty enough 372 00:14:38,583 --> 00:14:40,625 GPS satellites, if you will, 373 00:14:40,792 --> 00:14:42,833 to take off and fly, no problem. 374 00:14:43,042 --> 00:14:47,750 But the actual satellite signals are so low, the drone 375 00:14:47,875 --> 00:14:49,500 -can't take off. -Wow. 376 00:14:49,708 --> 00:14:51,958 TRAVIS: That's crazy. As soon as the Helikite 377 00:14:52,125 --> 00:14:54,250 got into position at the barrier of the bubble, 378 00:14:54,458 --> 00:14:57,208 Jim lost connection to 21 satellites. 379 00:14:57,417 --> 00:14:59,750 That kept his drone from taking off. 380 00:14:59,917 --> 00:15:01,833 Was it the Helikite's interaction 381 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 with the barrier of the bubble that triggered it? 382 00:15:04,167 --> 00:15:08,500 Did you see any of these issues prior to moving 383 00:15:08,667 --> 00:15:10,292 -the Helikite? -No. 384 00:15:10,458 --> 00:15:13,625 Something about the Helikite going in 385 00:15:13,792 --> 00:15:16,167 that barrier inside the bubble 386 00:15:16,375 --> 00:15:18,333 stimulates it or something, 'cause then 387 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:20,083 I'm having problems once it's in there. 388 00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:21,167 Got it. 389 00:15:21,333 --> 00:15:23,000 TRAVIS: I think whatever this 390 00:15:23,125 --> 00:15:25,833 bubble or barrier or dome is, 391 00:15:26,042 --> 00:15:29,375 that it's blocking the external signal somehow. 392 00:15:29,542 --> 00:15:31,500 And adding to your point, blocking and possibly 393 00:15:31,708 --> 00:15:32,833 responsive to what we're doing. 394 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,417 That duplicate 1.2 gigahertz signal 395 00:15:35,542 --> 00:15:37,125 showed up when that Helikite 396 00:15:37,292 --> 00:15:38,792 was exactly on that boundary that we're talking about. 397 00:15:38,917 --> 00:15:41,208 That's a good point. Yep. 398 00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:43,875 ERIK: Okay, I have some things to share. 399 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,500 I was, uh, doing some GPS monitoring 400 00:15:45,708 --> 00:15:47,625 on the Helikite platform. 401 00:15:47,792 --> 00:15:49,125 Let me bring it up. 402 00:15:53,292 --> 00:15:54,542 TRAVIS: Oh. 403 00:15:54,708 --> 00:15:56,250 THOMAS: Wow. 404 00:15:56,417 --> 00:15:59,583 Again, data that's appearing to be underground. 405 00:16:00,542 --> 00:16:02,167 ERIK: Yeah. Here in the east field canyon, 406 00:16:02,375 --> 00:16:04,708 we saw GPS locator points 407 00:16:04,917 --> 00:16:07,292 nearly 800 feet into the ground. 408 00:16:07,458 --> 00:16:09,958 -THOMAS: That's crazy. -ERIK: Isn't that nuts? 409 00:16:10,083 --> 00:16:11,333 But this really rings some bells for me. 410 00:16:11,458 --> 00:16:12,875 Now, just reflect on some of our experiences 411 00:16:13,042 --> 00:16:14,667 at the creek. 412 00:16:14,875 --> 00:16:16,000 ERIK: According to the GPS, 413 00:16:16,167 --> 00:16:18,167 you're at 5,000 feet underground. 414 00:16:18,333 --> 00:16:20,333 TRAVIS: That's crazy, man. 415 00:16:21,292 --> 00:16:24,125 When we were investigating Dry Gulch Creek 416 00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:25,875 in the south field last year, which is very close 417 00:16:26,042 --> 00:16:28,083 to the southern border of the bubble, 418 00:16:28,208 --> 00:16:30,708 Erik's GPS tracker reported its position 419 00:16:30,875 --> 00:16:33,333 5,000 feet underground. 420 00:16:34,333 --> 00:16:36,417 During a lot of our experiments all over the ranch, 421 00:16:36,583 --> 00:16:39,542 we've seen the data from our GPS devices 422 00:16:39,667 --> 00:16:41,708 go deep underground. 423 00:16:41,875 --> 00:16:43,875 We never knew what to make of it. 424 00:16:44,083 --> 00:16:46,208 But did the Helikite experiment 425 00:16:46,333 --> 00:16:48,000 help us figure out that it was 426 00:16:48,167 --> 00:16:50,167 the barrier of the bubble doing that? 427 00:16:50,333 --> 00:16:53,667 So, as if this isn't weird enough, I've got some 428 00:16:53,875 --> 00:16:55,042 other things that happened during the-- 429 00:16:55,208 --> 00:16:57,042 -Hey, there's more? -Oh, there's more. 430 00:16:57,208 --> 00:16:58,917 -(chuckling) -There are some... some interesting hits 431 00:16:59,083 --> 00:17:01,958 in the high-speed cameras that we mounted 432 00:17:02,083 --> 00:17:04,250 to our science platform on the Helikite. 433 00:17:06,083 --> 00:17:07,875 Okay, so here we have the embossed effect 434 00:17:08,042 --> 00:17:10,917 being used to help bring out any movement, 435 00:17:11,083 --> 00:17:12,917 anything going through the field of view of the camera. 436 00:17:13,083 --> 00:17:15,583 To be clear, this is high speed, 437 00:17:15,708 --> 00:17:18,167 120 frames per second. 438 00:17:19,292 --> 00:17:21,500 Let me know if you see anything. 439 00:17:21,583 --> 00:17:23,583 -SAM: Oh, yeah. -THOMAS: Looked translucent. 440 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:24,833 What did you see? 441 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,375 -Movement in the upper middle... -Okay. 442 00:17:26,542 --> 00:17:28,667 -...to the side. -So, let's go back. 443 00:17:28,833 --> 00:17:30,500 SAM: Right there. 444 00:17:30,667 --> 00:17:33,833 ERIK: Okay. We are looking at at least four-- 445 00:17:34,042 --> 00:17:36,167 TRAVIS: At least four dots, maybe five. 446 00:17:36,292 --> 00:17:39,500 Yeah. Okay, so, let's dive in on this part of the, uh, 447 00:17:39,708 --> 00:17:40,833 video frame. 448 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,500 And so, I'll back us up. 449 00:17:43,667 --> 00:17:47,333 Okay, now I'll play through at the normal rate. 450 00:17:48,542 --> 00:17:50,458 All right. 451 00:17:51,708 --> 00:17:53,458 There it is. 452 00:17:54,458 --> 00:17:56,000 TRAVIS: Okay, so if it's moving really 453 00:17:56,167 --> 00:17:58,125 damn fast, if it's anywhere further than 454 00:17:58,292 --> 00:17:59,792 right next to the camera lens. 455 00:17:59,958 --> 00:18:02,250 THOMAS: Can you frame advance just 456 00:18:02,417 --> 00:18:04,000 -a couple frames? -Okay. 457 00:18:04,208 --> 00:18:08,167 There's one, two, three. 458 00:18:08,333 --> 00:18:09,875 THOMAS: It goes behind it. 459 00:18:10,042 --> 00:18:11,542 ERIK: Wow. 460 00:18:11,708 --> 00:18:13,208 THOMAS: So, we know it's not a bug... 461 00:18:13,375 --> 00:18:14,542 -That's important. -...in front of the camera. 462 00:18:14,708 --> 00:18:15,625 -Yeah. -Yeah. 463 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:17,000 That string is out 464 00:18:17,208 --> 00:18:19,375 -away from the platform. -ERIK: Absolutely. 465 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:21,875 That is just unbelievable. 466 00:18:22,042 --> 00:18:23,917 After what happened with the GPS data, 467 00:18:24,083 --> 00:18:26,208 the rockets and Jim's drone, 468 00:18:26,375 --> 00:18:28,000 we have several more reasons to believe 469 00:18:28,208 --> 00:18:29,875 that the bubble is actually real. 470 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,542 So, if that's the case, 471 00:18:31,708 --> 00:18:34,542 then is that where the UAPs came from? 472 00:18:34,708 --> 00:18:37,625 And could they also be related to the duplicate 473 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:40,583 1.2 gigahertz signal that we keep detecting? 474 00:18:40,708 --> 00:18:43,208 Clearly, there's some follow-up called for. 475 00:18:43,375 --> 00:18:44,917 -Yeah. -TRAVIS: Yep, I agree. 476 00:18:45,083 --> 00:18:46,125 THOMAS: And it would be interesting to do that 477 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:47,667 down near Dry Gulch Creek. 478 00:18:47,875 --> 00:18:50,167 -TRAVIS: Yeah, Thomas. -ERIK: Yes, that's actually 479 00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:53,292 not far from the boundary of our bubble. 480 00:18:53,375 --> 00:18:56,167 So, we need to devise experiments 481 00:18:56,292 --> 00:18:59,167 at those barrier locations. 482 00:18:59,250 --> 00:19:01,750 We need to drive, walk sensors 483 00:19:01,917 --> 00:19:04,042 through it, people, 484 00:19:04,208 --> 00:19:06,542 and fly a drone back and forth between it 485 00:19:06,708 --> 00:19:08,542 with as many sensors as we can put on it 486 00:19:08,708 --> 00:19:12,083 so we can look through that barrier wall 487 00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:14,167 and start pinpointing what's triggering it. 488 00:19:14,375 --> 00:19:16,208 That would tell us a lot of information. 489 00:19:16,375 --> 00:19:17,208 -ERIK: Yep. -Yeah. 490 00:19:17,375 --> 00:19:18,625 ERIK: Well, 491 00:19:18,750 --> 00:19:20,708 sounds like we've got the makings of a plan 492 00:19:20,875 --> 00:19:22,250 for another experiment. 493 00:19:22,375 --> 00:19:23,292 -Let's do it. -All right. -All right. 494 00:19:23,458 --> 00:19:24,167 ERIK: Thank you, guys. 495 00:19:24,333 --> 00:19:24,833 THOMAS: Yep. 496 00:19:28,958 --> 00:19:30,333 TRAVIS: How's it going, Ben? 497 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:32,125 Doing good. How you doing? Good to see you, man. 498 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:33,542 TRAVIS: After the wild results 499 00:19:33,708 --> 00:19:35,375 of our Helikite experiment yesterday 500 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:38,125 at the eastern boundary of the so-called bubble... 501 00:19:38,292 --> 00:19:39,833 You ready to do some trekking down by the creek 502 00:19:39,958 --> 00:19:41,208 and into the bubble? 503 00:19:41,375 --> 00:19:43,333 Yeah, absolutely. Let's go check it out. 504 00:19:43,542 --> 00:19:45,833 ...we got our buddy, biologist Ben Woodruff, 505 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,667 to help us see what would happen when we try to put our equipment 506 00:19:48,833 --> 00:19:51,708 through its southern boundary at Dry Gulch Creek. 507 00:19:51,875 --> 00:19:53,208 ERIK: Ben, 508 00:19:53,375 --> 00:19:56,667 having you on-site to immediately inspect anything, 509 00:19:56,833 --> 00:19:59,208 I think is the perfect plan. 510 00:19:59,417 --> 00:20:00,708 BEN: I'm excited to see what else we can find. 511 00:20:00,875 --> 00:20:02,333 Let's load up. 512 00:20:02,458 --> 00:20:03,750 TRAVIS: Over the past five years, 513 00:20:03,875 --> 00:20:05,500 we've documented a lot of strange things 514 00:20:05,625 --> 00:20:08,375 in the south field and the creek... 515 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:12,708 ...like GPS data that also went deep underground, 516 00:20:12,875 --> 00:20:16,208 several different UAPs, including one in the water 517 00:20:16,375 --> 00:20:18,167 that we captured on video last year, 518 00:20:18,375 --> 00:20:21,792 and the decayed carcass of some kind of wolf 519 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,667 that Ben can't seem to identify 520 00:20:23,833 --> 00:20:26,167 as a known species for this area. 521 00:20:26,333 --> 00:20:28,875 In fact, based on his research, 522 00:20:29,042 --> 00:20:31,000 he believes it could be a dire wolf, 523 00:20:31,167 --> 00:20:33,208 a predator that supposedly went extinct 524 00:20:33,375 --> 00:20:35,208 more than 10,000 years ago. 525 00:20:38,833 --> 00:20:40,750 -You want to do this one first, Thomas? -Yes, this one's on top. 526 00:20:42,458 --> 00:20:44,375 -All right. -THOMAS: Now, one of these is the lead. 527 00:20:44,542 --> 00:20:47,000 All these instruments have, uh, fresh batteries. 528 00:20:47,208 --> 00:20:48,542 TRAVIS: All right. 529 00:20:48,708 --> 00:20:50,708 Who knows if any of these things are related 530 00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:53,667 to the bubble, or its boundary, but we want to find out. 531 00:20:53,875 --> 00:20:57,417 So, starting from several yards outside 532 00:20:57,583 --> 00:20:59,458 of the believed southern boundary of the bubble, 533 00:20:59,625 --> 00:21:02,333 we're going to walk two kayaks loaded with instruments 534 00:21:02,542 --> 00:21:04,750 down the creek. We want to see 535 00:21:04,917 --> 00:21:07,875 if we get different readings outside of the bubble 536 00:21:08,042 --> 00:21:09,500 versus inside the bubble. 537 00:21:09,708 --> 00:21:11,500 Here's the sonar, Thomas, 538 00:21:11,708 --> 00:21:14,333 that's gonna be clamped to that PVC pipe right there, 539 00:21:14,542 --> 00:21:16,083 and that orange piece has to be in the water. 540 00:21:16,250 --> 00:21:17,750 ERIK: The equipment we're using 541 00:21:17,875 --> 00:21:20,250 as part of the river walk includes the sonar. 542 00:21:20,417 --> 00:21:22,250 This is something that allows us to image 543 00:21:22,458 --> 00:21:24,958 the bottom of the creek beneath the water. 544 00:21:26,167 --> 00:21:28,167 We're carrying the TriField meter, 545 00:21:28,375 --> 00:21:30,125 measuring the radiation in the environment. 546 00:21:31,125 --> 00:21:35,500 Also, a GPS tracker to observe whether we see a repeat 547 00:21:35,625 --> 00:21:38,042 of some of the mysterious results that we got last year. 548 00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:39,375 I'm going to set the drone up there, 549 00:21:39,542 --> 00:21:41,667 I'm going to get my base station set up here. 550 00:21:41,792 --> 00:21:43,500 TRAVIS: Once we reach the southern boundary of the bubble, 551 00:21:43,667 --> 00:21:45,292 Jim Royston is going to attempt to fly 552 00:21:45,458 --> 00:21:47,167 his lidar drone through it 553 00:21:47,292 --> 00:21:48,833 to see if something stops it again. 554 00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:51,917 Hey, Erik, it's Kaleb. Do you copy? 555 00:21:52,042 --> 00:21:53,333 Loud and clear. 556 00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:57,042 We just put the GPS on and we are transmitting. 557 00:21:57,167 --> 00:21:59,208 ERIK: Copy that, Kaleb. 558 00:21:59,375 --> 00:22:01,625 I will be in the command center monitoring. 559 00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:04,042 In the past, it has been really fascinating 560 00:22:04,208 --> 00:22:05,625 to see how the bubble 561 00:22:05,708 --> 00:22:07,875 interfered with our scientific instruments, 562 00:22:08,042 --> 00:22:10,750 electronic devices, so if we see data errors 563 00:22:10,917 --> 00:22:12,292 going on today, 564 00:22:12,458 --> 00:22:13,708 the real question here 565 00:22:13,875 --> 00:22:16,792 is whether the errors cluster around 566 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,417 the border of what we're calling the bubble. 567 00:22:19,583 --> 00:22:22,375 We'll also be looking into the sky, 568 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:24,833 looking for returns off of the lidar system 569 00:22:25,042 --> 00:22:28,708 indicating the presence of any kind of effect or phenomenon. 570 00:22:28,917 --> 00:22:30,458 TRAVIS: Here we go. 571 00:22:30,667 --> 00:22:32,750 -Careful, guys. -THOMAS: Got it. 572 00:22:35,708 --> 00:22:37,625 -All right. -TRAVIS: You got it? 573 00:22:37,792 --> 00:22:39,333 -I've got it. -All right. 574 00:22:41,292 --> 00:22:42,625 All right. 575 00:22:44,542 --> 00:22:46,417 Oh, guess what the dadgum TriField meter's 576 00:22:46,583 --> 00:22:47,833 -reading right now? -THOMAS: What? 577 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,500 Zero, zero. 578 00:22:51,667 --> 00:22:54,000 THOMAS: It doesn't do that anywhere but here, you know. 579 00:22:54,208 --> 00:22:56,333 TRAVIS: There's always a little bit of radiation 580 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,250 in any environment, 581 00:22:58,375 --> 00:23:00,000 so it's really weird for the TriField meter 582 00:23:00,208 --> 00:23:02,833 to read exactly zero. 583 00:23:03,042 --> 00:23:05,500 We hadn't reached the bubble's southern boundary yet, 584 00:23:05,708 --> 00:23:07,792 but we were pretty close, 585 00:23:07,958 --> 00:23:10,500 so was it possibly messing with this device? 586 00:23:10,708 --> 00:23:12,167 KALEB: Just so you're aware, 587 00:23:12,292 --> 00:23:15,000 our TriField meter's reading zeros. 588 00:23:15,167 --> 00:23:18,667 I find that interesting because I just looked over 589 00:23:18,875 --> 00:23:22,125 and I also do show some of the latest GPS points 590 00:23:22,250 --> 00:23:24,875 are, in fact, beneath ground level. 591 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,542 I'm closely monitoring. 592 00:23:28,708 --> 00:23:31,292 We're seeing very strange readings 593 00:23:31,458 --> 00:23:35,292 from the TriField meter and the GPS tracker. 594 00:23:35,417 --> 00:23:36,792 It raises the question as to whether 595 00:23:36,917 --> 00:23:38,667 the instruments themselves are being interfered with, 596 00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:41,167 and if so, what could be the source 597 00:23:41,375 --> 00:23:43,083 of that inference in a creek bed? 598 00:23:44,333 --> 00:23:45,167 THOMAS: How deep is it right there? 599 00:23:45,375 --> 00:23:46,958 TRAVIS: The sonar 600 00:23:47,083 --> 00:23:48,667 lost the connection. 601 00:23:49,583 --> 00:23:51,208 It keeps doing that. 602 00:23:51,375 --> 00:23:52,750 KALEB: So, the sonar 603 00:23:52,917 --> 00:23:55,667 -is not connecting to your phone? -Yep. 604 00:23:55,833 --> 00:23:57,000 This close. 605 00:23:57,208 --> 00:23:59,833 Something is killing the connection to it. 606 00:24:00,750 --> 00:24:02,333 What's the TriField meter doing? 607 00:24:02,542 --> 00:24:05,083 -Zero. -Something's killing the signal. 608 00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:06,500 Something's killing signals, period. 609 00:24:06,625 --> 00:24:08,333 Let's just keep-keep 610 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:10,708 moving as best we can, guys. 611 00:24:10,875 --> 00:24:13,208 THOMAS: We found a lot of strange things around the creek 612 00:24:13,417 --> 00:24:15,292 down on the center part of the ranch. 613 00:24:15,417 --> 00:24:18,000 These things include finding a wolf carcass in the river, 614 00:24:18,208 --> 00:24:21,333 burnt wood and a UAP. 615 00:24:21,458 --> 00:24:22,792 Now, as we're walking down the creek 616 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,333 towards the direction of the bubble boundary, 617 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:27,500 none of our equipment was working, 618 00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:29,542 so it makes me wonder, is it all related? 619 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:31,708 I... I have no idea. 620 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:36,458 How's it going down there? 621 00:24:36,583 --> 00:24:39,250 Still zeros on TriField. Hadn't read a thing. 622 00:24:40,292 --> 00:24:43,333 THOMAS: I wonder how close we are to the boundary. 623 00:24:43,542 --> 00:24:45,000 -Boundary's right here. -Yep. 624 00:24:45,167 --> 00:24:46,333 Boundary marker's right here. 625 00:24:46,542 --> 00:24:48,042 -Are you serious? -JIM: Yeah. 626 00:24:48,250 --> 00:24:51,167 We'll get the drone up within the next five minutes. 627 00:24:51,375 --> 00:24:52,625 Okay, let's see what's going on 628 00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:54,458 -with lidar. -Yeah. 629 00:24:54,583 --> 00:24:56,958 Hey, Erik, it's Kaleb, You copy? 630 00:24:57,125 --> 00:24:58,958 Yeah, Kaleb. Go ahead. 631 00:24:59,125 --> 00:25:00,833 So, we are 632 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,250 maybe about 20 feet from the bubble at this point. 633 00:25:04,375 --> 00:25:07,375 We just wanted to let you know we're about to cross it. 634 00:25:07,542 --> 00:25:08,917 Copy that. 635 00:25:10,042 --> 00:25:11,333 How are we looking, Sam? 636 00:25:11,417 --> 00:25:12,958 Yeah, it looks like everything's ready. 637 00:25:13,125 --> 00:25:14,500 JIM: All right, I'm good on the controller. 638 00:25:14,625 --> 00:25:16,333 We're getting good GPS signal, 639 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:17,833 so I think we're ready to go. 640 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,500 All right. Well, let's get her launched. 641 00:25:21,875 --> 00:25:23,833 Hey, Erik, it's Kaleb. We're through the barrier. 642 00:25:23,958 --> 00:25:24,958 ERIK: Copy you, Kaleb. 643 00:25:25,083 --> 00:25:26,167 Thanks for that. 644 00:25:29,458 --> 00:25:30,792 We are ready to get it going. 645 00:25:30,917 --> 00:25:32,208 (drone playing indistinct automated message) 646 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:36,208 -(drone beeping) -JIM: All right. 647 00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:39,208 (indistinct automated message playing) 648 00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:46,250 Okay, this is an interesting one, everybody. 649 00:25:46,375 --> 00:25:47,625 -So, look where we are. -BEN: Uh-huh. 650 00:25:47,792 --> 00:25:51,417 JIM: It thinks there's an aircraft approaching, 651 00:25:51,542 --> 00:25:54,667 and doesn't want to go do its flight plan. 652 00:25:57,458 --> 00:25:59,875 There is no aircraft around us right now. 653 00:26:00,042 --> 00:26:02,000 -No, there's nothing. -It's pretty sophisticated. 654 00:26:02,208 --> 00:26:05,333 It thinks there's an aircraft right around it. 655 00:26:06,542 --> 00:26:07,917 BEN: That's wild. 656 00:26:14,458 --> 00:26:17,458 (drone beeping) 657 00:26:17,625 --> 00:26:19,583 JIM: It thinks there's an aircraft 658 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:22,958 approaching and doesn't want to go do its flight plan. 659 00:26:23,167 --> 00:26:24,667 -BEN: That's nuts. -JIM: And we don't see one, right? 660 00:26:24,875 --> 00:26:26,333 No, there's nothing. 661 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,125 I mean, it does not want to let me go. 662 00:26:28,292 --> 00:26:30,500 I have to override it. 663 00:26:31,542 --> 00:26:34,542 TRAVIS: Yesterday, Jim Royston couldn't get his lidar drone 664 00:26:34,708 --> 00:26:37,333 to fly through the eastern boundary of the bubble. 665 00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:38,750 But now, as he was about to fly 666 00:26:38,917 --> 00:26:40,333 through the southern boundary, 667 00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:42,250 the drone's warning system detected 668 00:26:42,417 --> 00:26:45,750 an aircraft right in front of it that stopped it from flying. 669 00:26:45,875 --> 00:26:48,667 There was nothing in the airspace that we could see, 670 00:26:48,833 --> 00:26:50,625 so was it something invisible 671 00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:52,500 that might have come from the bubble? 672 00:26:52,667 --> 00:26:54,000 And if so, what was it? 673 00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:56,875 ROYSTON: Hey, Erik? 674 00:26:57,042 --> 00:26:58,750 ERIK: Yeah, Jim, go ahead. 675 00:26:58,875 --> 00:27:02,167 We got that "Cannot take off, aircraft in the area," 676 00:27:02,292 --> 00:27:04,125 so I did just kind of force it to go. 677 00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:06,708 So we got this drone up in the air. 678 00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:09,000 It's going to actually start the mission. 679 00:27:09,208 --> 00:27:10,875 Copy that, Jim. Thanks. 680 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:13,958 Here we go. 681 00:27:14,125 --> 00:27:16,167 TRAVIS: After manually overriding the drone's controls, 682 00:27:16,250 --> 00:27:19,083 Jim was able to get the drone to take off. 683 00:27:19,208 --> 00:27:21,917 He flew it directly toward the bubble barrier 684 00:27:22,042 --> 00:27:24,792 and began lidar-scanning in a push-broom pattern 685 00:27:24,917 --> 00:27:27,167 back and forth across the southern boundary. 686 00:27:28,083 --> 00:27:29,958 We just hoped he'd finally be able 687 00:27:30,083 --> 00:27:31,917 to get us some data on this thing. 688 00:27:32,042 --> 00:27:35,417 How far are we from where we found the dire wolf? 689 00:27:35,583 --> 00:27:36,833 Still up a ways. 690 00:27:36,958 --> 00:27:38,375 KALEB: We got a ways to go still. 691 00:27:38,542 --> 00:27:40,000 TRAVIS: Dang. We need 692 00:27:40,167 --> 00:27:43,042 -to pick up the pace, I guess, huh? -Yup. 693 00:27:44,125 --> 00:27:45,708 ROYSTON: It's coming right over us 694 00:27:45,875 --> 00:27:49,458 on its pass, and it's going to cross the... 695 00:27:50,125 --> 00:27:52,333 It's getting really close to that barrier. 696 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,042 ROYSTON: Yeah. 697 00:27:54,958 --> 00:27:57,125 See what happens here. 698 00:27:58,167 --> 00:28:00,500 All right, I'm monitoring Jim's position. 699 00:28:00,667 --> 00:28:02,583 He is flying straight... Oh! Look, right there. 700 00:28:02,792 --> 00:28:04,542 Straight into the boundary. 701 00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:06,958 And we did get an error point. 702 00:28:08,458 --> 00:28:10,042 I'm seeing 703 00:28:10,208 --> 00:28:14,167 data corruption errors from an attached GPS tracker, 704 00:28:14,333 --> 00:28:15,958 just as we go into 705 00:28:16,083 --> 00:28:19,833 the membrane or the border of the bubble. 706 00:28:19,958 --> 00:28:22,667 Okay, guys, I just hit another data corruption error. 707 00:28:22,833 --> 00:28:26,250 That's pretty much at the... the bubble barrier. 708 00:28:26,417 --> 00:28:27,625 -Yup. -Yeah. 709 00:28:27,792 --> 00:28:29,083 So he might get a couple more. 710 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:30,917 We're come... We're going to come in here. 711 00:28:31,875 --> 00:28:33,375 Okay, here we go again. 712 00:28:34,708 --> 00:28:36,458 ERIK: Okay, we just hit an error point. 713 00:28:37,625 --> 00:28:39,500 It's right on the border. He just got the error point. 714 00:28:39,708 --> 00:28:41,167 -Can you believe that? -Hmm. 715 00:28:41,292 --> 00:28:42,833 ROYSTON: I mean, it's right there. 716 00:28:42,958 --> 00:28:44,167 -Right there. -ROYSTON: The one we just crossed. 717 00:28:44,292 --> 00:28:45,625 How nuts is that, man? 718 00:28:46,667 --> 00:28:48,833 TRAVIS: As Jim was flying his drone back and forth 719 00:28:49,042 --> 00:28:50,000 across the boundary of the bubble, 720 00:28:50,167 --> 00:28:52,500 every time he crossed through, 721 00:28:52,667 --> 00:28:55,792 Erik was getting data corruption in the GPS signal. 722 00:28:55,875 --> 00:28:58,500 Every single time. 723 00:29:00,542 --> 00:29:02,833 -Well, we got one more set. -Yeah. 724 00:29:04,708 --> 00:29:07,250 ROYSTON: Oh, no! 725 00:29:07,417 --> 00:29:09,000 I'm red. I'm red! 726 00:29:09,208 --> 00:29:12,208 If it gets too nervous, it will abort the mission. 727 00:29:13,292 --> 00:29:16,833 Oh, will you look at the errors? Look at this. 728 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:19,083 Aah, it's aborting. 729 00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:20,542 Oh, bad enough where it's coming home. 730 00:29:20,708 --> 00:29:22,292 Yeah, it's bad enough 731 00:29:22,417 --> 00:29:24,500 that it's coming home, it's aborting the mission on its own. 732 00:29:24,667 --> 00:29:26,792 Are you kidding me? I mean, 733 00:29:26,958 --> 00:29:28,708 these things are so tightly correlated, 734 00:29:28,875 --> 00:29:30,750 it's unbelievable. 735 00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:35,000 The timing is very suspicious. 736 00:29:35,125 --> 00:29:37,000 There's definitely a pattern to this, 737 00:29:37,083 --> 00:29:39,417 and when I see patterns, that makes me very interested. 738 00:29:40,542 --> 00:29:42,833 I'm looking forward to looking at the data 739 00:29:42,917 --> 00:29:45,917 and looking for meaningful correlations. 740 00:29:46,083 --> 00:29:47,833 BEN: That drone's going all over the place. We're gonna try 741 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,167 -to land it manually. -Go-- go left a little. 742 00:29:50,375 --> 00:29:52,250 Okay, hold on. 743 00:29:52,417 --> 00:29:54,333 Yeah, you should be good. 744 00:29:56,292 --> 00:29:57,500 ROYSTON: All right, we're on the ground. 745 00:29:57,708 --> 00:29:59,167 SAM: Oh, my God. 746 00:30:01,250 --> 00:30:02,542 TRAVIS: We got to be getting close 747 00:30:02,708 --> 00:30:05,167 to where the... the wolf was. 748 00:30:05,375 --> 00:30:07,417 Oh, look right there on the bank. 749 00:30:07,583 --> 00:30:09,458 What's that brown stuff right there? 750 00:30:09,625 --> 00:30:11,458 THOMAS: We got some scat. 751 00:30:11,667 --> 00:30:14,083 Maybe we ought to get Ben to tell us what that is. 752 00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:16,458 KALEB: Hey, Ben, it's Kaleb. Do you copy? 753 00:30:16,667 --> 00:30:17,958 Yeah, Kaleb, what's up? 754 00:30:18,125 --> 00:30:19,625 KALEB: Yeah, we've got 755 00:30:19,792 --> 00:30:21,167 two different piles of scat 756 00:30:21,375 --> 00:30:23,958 that I think you'd be interested in looking at. 757 00:30:24,125 --> 00:30:25,875 Okay, um, are you guys 758 00:30:26,042 --> 00:30:27,708 in a position where you could take those as samples 759 00:30:27,875 --> 00:30:29,417 and bring 'em up with? 760 00:30:29,583 --> 00:30:31,750 Yeah, we're doing that now. 761 00:30:31,917 --> 00:30:35,625 BEN: Sounds good. I'll test them and see what I can find out. 762 00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:37,417 TRAVIS: You might not think 763 00:30:37,542 --> 00:30:39,875 that animal droppings would be worth much to our investigation. 764 00:30:40,083 --> 00:30:42,833 But since the strange carcass we found last year was also 765 00:30:43,042 --> 00:30:45,417 inside the bubble, Ben Woodruff needs to look 766 00:30:45,542 --> 00:30:49,000 at every possible clue that could give us some answers. 767 00:30:49,167 --> 00:30:52,000 And in the meantime, we have a bunch of other data 768 00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:54,583 from today that we'll be examining along with it. 769 00:30:55,625 --> 00:30:57,333 ERIK: It's been a good run. We're losing daylight. 770 00:30:57,542 --> 00:30:59,833 I'd say we reconvene back over at the command center. 771 00:30:59,958 --> 00:31:02,000 KALEB: Great. Thanks, Erik. 772 00:31:10,333 --> 00:31:11,833 -ERIK: Hey, Ben. -TRAVIS: Hey, Ben. 773 00:31:11,958 --> 00:31:12,833 KALEB: How's going, Ben? 774 00:31:13,042 --> 00:31:15,042 Hey. How you guys doing? 775 00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:17,208 So, Ben, thanks again for jumping on with us. 776 00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:18,458 Absolutely. 777 00:31:18,625 --> 00:31:19,833 TRAVIS: Two days after 778 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000 the crazy drone and kayak experiment, 779 00:31:22,208 --> 00:31:23,583 when we crossed into the bubble 780 00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:24,792 from the southern boundary, 781 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,083 biologist Ben Woodruff joined us 782 00:31:27,250 --> 00:31:30,333 on a video conference to review all of the data. 783 00:31:30,542 --> 00:31:32,833 ROYSTON: I mean, it was... it was crazy. 784 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,542 Go to launch the drone, 785 00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:35,833 and it won't launch. 786 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,333 It actually says, 787 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:40,833 "There is an aircraft immediately in your area, 788 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,542 or approaching." 789 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:44,958 TRAVIS: That's crazy. 790 00:31:45,125 --> 00:31:46,458 -Yes. -TRAVIS: We know there wasn't 791 00:31:46,625 --> 00:31:48,333 aircraft anywhere transmitting ADS-B, right? 792 00:31:48,542 --> 00:31:52,083 Yeah, there were no aircraft in the airspace at that time. 793 00:31:52,292 --> 00:31:53,667 THOMAS: Uh, I do think it's interesting 794 00:31:53,875 --> 00:31:56,083 that for the first part of this, 795 00:31:56,292 --> 00:31:58,583 our instruments measured approximately zero, 796 00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:00,250 -as far as the TriField. -Oh, yeah? 797 00:32:00,417 --> 00:32:01,917 -Mm-hmm. -Yes. 798 00:32:02,125 --> 00:32:03,458 It was as if they were not working. 799 00:32:03,583 --> 00:32:05,125 Mm-hmm. 800 00:32:05,292 --> 00:32:06,458 TRAVIS: So let's think of all the instruments we have. 801 00:32:06,583 --> 00:32:10,833 We got Jim's drone, we've got the sonar, 802 00:32:11,042 --> 00:32:12,833 uh, we got the TriField meter. 803 00:32:13,042 --> 00:32:15,167 -Yeah. -TRAVIS: So, that's a lot 804 00:32:15,292 --> 00:32:17,875 of instruments using different technologies that are being 805 00:32:18,042 --> 00:32:19,333 affected right at that spot. 806 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:21,167 -Yup. -KALEB: Does this mean that 807 00:32:21,375 --> 00:32:23,333 this potential bubble that we're 808 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:28,333 maybe finding here is putting off some kind of energy, or... 809 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:31,458 or something that is messing with our equipment? 810 00:32:31,583 --> 00:32:32,875 Well, it's doing something 811 00:32:33,042 --> 00:32:34,292 that's messing with our equipment. 812 00:32:34,417 --> 00:32:36,292 ERIK: Between the data from this experiment 813 00:32:36,458 --> 00:32:37,875 and the Helikite one earlier this week, 814 00:32:38,042 --> 00:32:39,958 we've done enough work on the boundary 815 00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:42,333 -to support that general idea. -Yeah. 816 00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:44,500 One hundred percent. 817 00:32:44,667 --> 00:32:46,792 ERIK: Yeah, it seems like an appropriate time to bring up 818 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,583 the GPS data from Jim's drone 819 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:51,000 in the 3D model, and of course, 820 00:32:51,167 --> 00:32:52,625 we have the representation of the bubble. 821 00:32:57,375 --> 00:32:59,292 So, these red points correspond 822 00:32:59,417 --> 00:33:01,417 to the data corruption errors from the drone. 823 00:33:01,583 --> 00:33:02,833 TRAVIS: Okay. 824 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,333 They're kind of right on the bubble. 825 00:33:05,333 --> 00:33:07,500 -THOMAS: Oh, my gosh. -ERIK: Mm-hmm. 826 00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:10,583 Now, we can go look at the other GPS data set 827 00:33:10,750 --> 00:33:13,667 from the kayak on its own here. 828 00:33:13,792 --> 00:33:16,000 -So, these are just purely the sensor... -Yes. Yes. 829 00:33:16,208 --> 00:33:17,542 -...we had on the kayak? -On the kayak, yeah. 830 00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:22,292 ERIK: Yup, and some of those went up in the air. 831 00:33:22,458 --> 00:33:25,042 Some data as high as 2,000 feet. 832 00:33:25,208 --> 00:33:28,333 And when I reposition, 833 00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:30,792 you can see that, you know, some of these points 834 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,583 are below ground by tens of feet. 835 00:33:34,792 --> 00:33:37,125 -That's very interesting. -Yeah. -TRAVIS: Mm-hmm. 836 00:33:37,292 --> 00:33:39,500 TRAVIS: How in the heck did our GPS data 837 00:33:39,708 --> 00:33:43,042 from a kayak in the creek appear way up in the air 838 00:33:43,208 --> 00:33:45,083 and also underground? 839 00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:49,250 It really seems like the barrier of whatever this bubble thing is 840 00:33:49,458 --> 00:33:51,667 deflected it in different directions. 841 00:33:51,833 --> 00:33:54,167 ERIK: So, I've got one more thing. 842 00:33:54,375 --> 00:33:57,333 In your lidar survey, 843 00:33:57,542 --> 00:34:00,292 there seems to be an anomalous strip of missing data, too. 844 00:34:00,458 --> 00:34:04,250 -Yes. Yup. -Um, let me bring that up. 845 00:34:04,417 --> 00:34:06,958 -Here. -ROYSTON: There you go. 846 00:34:07,167 --> 00:34:09,333 ERIK: This is what caught my attention. 847 00:34:09,542 --> 00:34:11,333 TRAVIS: What? 848 00:34:11,458 --> 00:34:13,750 So, there's an entire swath that's missing? 849 00:34:13,958 --> 00:34:15,625 That's right. Yes. 850 00:34:15,792 --> 00:34:16,958 THOMAS: What the heck? 851 00:34:17,125 --> 00:34:18,542 KALEB: It's like a whole segment. 852 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:20,333 TRAVIS: Jim's lidar drone emits laser light 853 00:34:20,542 --> 00:34:22,250 that is designed to image an environment 854 00:34:22,375 --> 00:34:24,333 and also detect things 855 00:34:24,458 --> 00:34:26,292 that might be invisible to the naked eye. 856 00:34:26,458 --> 00:34:30,167 So what did it detect right by the southern boundary 857 00:34:30,333 --> 00:34:32,875 of the bubble that simply appeared in the data 858 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,333 as a black strip or void? 859 00:34:37,958 --> 00:34:40,083 I want to point something out 860 00:34:40,292 --> 00:34:42,333 because, uh, this is kind of fascinating to me. 861 00:34:42,542 --> 00:34:43,667 Um... 862 00:34:43,833 --> 00:34:45,583 All right. 863 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:50,583 So, right here is where the missing strip of lidar data is. 864 00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:51,833 Right? 865 00:34:52,042 --> 00:34:54,333 Look where we are right here. 866 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:57,500 So, Thomas, two years ago-- 867 00:34:57,667 --> 00:34:59,292 right there is where you saw the purple light. 868 00:34:59,458 --> 00:35:02,208 -Mm-hmm. -I mean, it was right in this area 869 00:35:02,375 --> 00:35:05,292 -near the southern boundary of the bubble. -Yeah. 870 00:35:05,458 --> 00:35:07,292 KALEB: That's way down, kind of by 871 00:35:07,417 --> 00:35:09,042 where we saw the silver orb. 872 00:35:09,208 --> 00:35:11,333 THOMAS: Yes, exactly. 873 00:35:11,542 --> 00:35:13,042 TRAVIS: Over the last couple of years, 874 00:35:13,208 --> 00:35:16,167 we've had some of our most creepy UAP encounters 875 00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:18,500 in this same area of the south field 876 00:35:18,667 --> 00:35:20,500 where Jim's lidar data was missing. 877 00:35:20,667 --> 00:35:23,250 That is flashing, whatever that is. 878 00:35:23,417 --> 00:35:25,542 One was a purple orb that looked like 879 00:35:25,708 --> 00:35:27,167 it was following Thomas. 880 00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:29,000 All right, here we go. 881 00:35:29,208 --> 00:35:31,167 TRAVIS: And another was a silver UAP 882 00:35:31,375 --> 00:35:33,333 that we captured on a surveillance camera. 883 00:35:33,458 --> 00:35:35,333 All of these events took place 884 00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:38,167 right near the southern barrier of the bubble. 885 00:35:38,333 --> 00:35:40,792 So, are they connected in some way? 886 00:35:40,958 --> 00:35:43,667 So, that seems to me like there's a bunch of different 887 00:35:43,833 --> 00:35:47,167 interesting things about this general area, 888 00:35:47,375 --> 00:35:49,333 and we've lost all this data. 889 00:35:49,542 --> 00:35:52,042 And it's all happening around the southern barrier 890 00:35:52,208 --> 00:35:53,292 of the bubble. 891 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:54,458 ERIK: What's so special about 892 00:35:54,625 --> 00:35:56,167 that location, if anything is? 893 00:35:56,375 --> 00:35:58,083 ROYSTON: There's something there 894 00:35:58,250 --> 00:35:59,583 that causes this. 895 00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:00,833 THOMAS: After all this, 896 00:36:01,042 --> 00:36:02,125 I wonder if it could be affecting 897 00:36:02,333 --> 00:36:04,500 the wildlife in that area, as well. 898 00:36:04,667 --> 00:36:05,500 ERIK: So, Ben, 899 00:36:05,625 --> 00:36:06,833 I can't help but wonder whether any 900 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,083 of the biological samples bear out 901 00:36:08,292 --> 00:36:10,375 that there's some strange connection. 902 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:11,542 BEN: Absolutely. 903 00:36:11,708 --> 00:36:12,792 I'm going to show you 904 00:36:12,958 --> 00:36:13,833 the scat samples you found. 905 00:36:14,042 --> 00:36:15,292 Let me pull these up here. 906 00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:20,000 Uh, these were really strange. 907 00:36:20,167 --> 00:36:22,167 So, what we're looking at here is these are some of the samples 908 00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:24,375 of the scat that you brought me. 909 00:36:24,542 --> 00:36:25,917 First of all, whatever it is, 910 00:36:26,042 --> 00:36:27,875 it ate a coyote. 911 00:36:28,042 --> 00:36:29,208 -Ate? -Ate? 912 00:36:29,375 --> 00:36:31,375 -What?! -It ate... Whatever it is, 913 00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:33,458 -it ate a coyote. -That's pretty freaking interesting. 914 00:36:33,625 --> 00:36:35,708 -Yeah. -ERIK: It's crazy. 915 00:36:36,708 --> 00:36:38,583 ERIK: What would do that? 916 00:36:42,458 --> 00:36:44,125 BEN: It ate a coyote. 917 00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:45,167 It ate a coyote? 918 00:36:45,375 --> 00:36:46,875 -Yes. -What?! 919 00:36:48,208 --> 00:36:51,667 Now, we've never seen large predators on Skinwalker Ranch. 920 00:36:51,875 --> 00:36:54,333 So, when Ben told us that the scat we found 921 00:36:54,458 --> 00:36:56,167 in the south field, 922 00:36:56,292 --> 00:36:58,292 right where we may have found the carcass 923 00:36:58,375 --> 00:36:59,958 of a dire wolf last year, 924 00:37:00,125 --> 00:37:01,917 was from something that actually 925 00:37:02,083 --> 00:37:05,083 ate a coyote, it got our attention. 926 00:37:05,208 --> 00:37:06,625 BEN: What I want to draw 927 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:08,208 your attention to on this is the hair. 928 00:37:08,375 --> 00:37:10,500 This is a guard hair from a coyote. 929 00:37:10,708 --> 00:37:13,208 And there's no predator around here 930 00:37:13,375 --> 00:37:15,750 that should be hunting and eating coyotes. 931 00:37:15,917 --> 00:37:17,333 Not even wolves. 932 00:37:17,542 --> 00:37:19,167 Wolves don't eat coyotes. 933 00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:20,958 They kill them out of competition, 934 00:37:21,083 --> 00:37:23,208 but they just leave them dead. 935 00:37:23,417 --> 00:37:25,500 Whatever this is ate a coyote. 936 00:37:25,708 --> 00:37:28,042 That's crazy. 937 00:37:28,208 --> 00:37:29,333 Um, this next picture, we're gonna take a look 938 00:37:29,542 --> 00:37:30,792 at the scat more itself. 939 00:37:33,708 --> 00:37:36,458 The bone was partially digested, 940 00:37:36,542 --> 00:37:39,167 and you can see that, whatever this predator was, 941 00:37:39,375 --> 00:37:41,917 it had a strong enough digestive system to start 942 00:37:42,083 --> 00:37:45,458 to break down the bone itself and chemically alter it. 943 00:37:45,625 --> 00:37:48,250 That's not normal, and I-- and there is no predator here 944 00:37:48,375 --> 00:37:51,083 in northern Utah that should be able to do that. 945 00:37:51,208 --> 00:37:52,458 -KALEB: Wow. -THOMAS: Yeah. 946 00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:54,833 BEN: But whatever it is, it's big, 947 00:37:54,958 --> 00:37:57,083 and it has a stronger digestive system 948 00:37:57,250 --> 00:38:00,167 than is normal for any predator in the area, 949 00:38:00,333 --> 00:38:02,500 and it killed and ate a coyote. 950 00:38:02,708 --> 00:38:03,792 Hmm. 951 00:38:05,458 --> 00:38:06,833 But what could that be? Like... 952 00:38:07,042 --> 00:38:10,000 I mean, it could be a cougar or a mountain lion. 953 00:38:10,167 --> 00:38:12,375 No, uh, a cougar would kill a coyote, 954 00:38:12,542 --> 00:38:14,083 but it would not eat one. 955 00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:15,875 A mountain lion's digestive system 956 00:38:16,083 --> 00:38:19,042 is not meant to break down the bones of larger animals. 957 00:38:19,208 --> 00:38:20,875 You would still have bone fragments. 958 00:38:21,042 --> 00:38:23,792 Whatever this is has a much more powerfully digestive, 959 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,875 uh, enzymes in its stomach. 960 00:38:26,917 --> 00:38:29,250 So, I think what you're, what you're telling us is 961 00:38:29,417 --> 00:38:31,667 the most logical explanation 962 00:38:31,833 --> 00:38:34,542 is some species that isn't typical of Utah. 963 00:38:34,750 --> 00:38:35,667 Correct. 964 00:38:35,833 --> 00:38:37,917 -Wow. -KALEB: What the hell 965 00:38:38,083 --> 00:38:40,417 is walking around out here eating and killing coyotes? 966 00:38:40,583 --> 00:38:42,667 ERIK: Ben, we've been talking about 967 00:38:42,833 --> 00:38:44,292 the subject of dire wolves, you know, 968 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:45,958 in some of our conversations. 969 00:38:46,125 --> 00:38:47,500 We have to ask the question, 970 00:38:47,708 --> 00:38:50,833 would a dire wolf consume a coyote? 971 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,833 Yes. 972 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,042 If a dire wolf saw a coyote, it would instantly kill it. 973 00:38:56,208 --> 00:38:57,625 ♪ ♪ 974 00:38:57,792 --> 00:38:59,583 Nothing out here makes any sense. 975 00:38:59,750 --> 00:39:04,042 UAPs, GPS data in the air, underground 976 00:39:04,208 --> 00:39:07,167 and unknown predators roaming the south field of the ranch 977 00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:08,958 eating coyotes. 978 00:39:09,125 --> 00:39:10,458 And what do they have in common? 979 00:39:10,625 --> 00:39:12,958 Maybe it's a huge bubble. 980 00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:17,000 I don't know what to say except the investigation continues. 981 00:39:17,208 --> 00:39:19,333 All right, well, on that note, we need to keep an eye out 982 00:39:19,542 --> 00:39:23,333 and try to get more evidence of whatever this is 983 00:39:23,542 --> 00:39:25,833 so we can figure out where it came from. 984 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,458 Yeah, the idea of sharing this space with a predator 985 00:39:28,583 --> 00:39:31,542 that eats a coyote is chilling. 986 00:39:31,708 --> 00:39:32,708 Yeah. 987 00:39:33,667 --> 00:39:35,333 -Wow. -Ben, as always, exciting. 988 00:39:35,542 --> 00:39:36,542 Appreciate it, man. 989 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,333 Absolutely. Happy to help. 990 00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:40,208 Thank you for jumping on with us. 991 00:39:40,375 --> 00:39:42,375 This has been very enlightening and disturbing. 992 00:39:43,708 --> 00:39:44,917 Thank you. 993 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,333 THOMAS: Lot of activity on this 994 00:39:48,458 --> 00:39:50,792 supposed "bubble boundary." 995 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,917 -Yeah. -Beats me. 996 00:39:52,083 --> 00:39:53,417 TRAVIS: We need to plot 997 00:39:53,583 --> 00:39:55,292 more of the bubble's boundary on the ground 998 00:39:55,458 --> 00:39:57,708 and see what we find at other areas of it. 999 00:39:57,875 --> 00:39:59,667 KALEB: Maybe we need to go out and do, 1000 00:39:59,833 --> 00:40:01,500 like, actual, like, field markers. 1001 00:40:01,708 --> 00:40:03,667 Things like, uh, posts. 1002 00:40:03,792 --> 00:40:05,500 ERIK: You know, that's a good idea. 1003 00:40:05,667 --> 00:40:07,667 Having markers as a reference is helpful. 1004 00:40:07,833 --> 00:40:10,708 They will indicate the boundary of that bubble. 1005 00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:12,458 -That would be fantastic. -Yeah. 1006 00:40:12,625 --> 00:40:14,083 -Let's go. -That sounds like a plan. 1007 00:40:14,292 --> 00:40:15,292 Let's go. Let's go do it. 1008 00:40:15,458 --> 00:40:16,458 -Let's do it. -All right. 1009 00:40:19,708 --> 00:40:23,000 ERIK: It makes a lot of sense to us to study 1010 00:40:23,167 --> 00:40:26,750 the boundary layer of what we are calling the bubble. 1011 00:40:29,167 --> 00:40:31,333 I want to know if this structure 1012 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,917 could be responsible or somehow involved 1013 00:40:34,083 --> 00:40:36,708 in all of the strange energetic events that we're seeing, 1014 00:40:36,875 --> 00:40:38,875 the disruptions to our equipment, 1015 00:40:39,042 --> 00:40:41,292 all the unusual activity at ground level 1016 00:40:41,417 --> 00:40:43,792 and even in the skies above. 1017 00:40:45,042 --> 00:40:48,667 TRAVIS: Science fact is looking a lot like science fiction out here. 1018 00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:50,875 But between the data we keep collecting 1019 00:40:51,042 --> 00:40:52,667 on this massive bubble 1020 00:40:52,792 --> 00:40:55,000 and the progress we're making in the mesa, 1021 00:40:55,208 --> 00:40:56,750 we're not going to quit 1022 00:40:56,875 --> 00:40:59,000 until we get to the bottom of this crazy mystery. 1023 00:41:00,917 --> 00:41:04,000 BRANDON: As we have explored some of the more mysterious, 1024 00:41:04,167 --> 00:41:09,042 darker regions of the ranch, we've identified animal life 1025 00:41:09,208 --> 00:41:13,583 that does not conform to any conventional explanation 1026 00:41:13,708 --> 00:41:16,417 and leaving biological evidence-- 1027 00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:19,333 what could be preying on the other animal life, 1028 00:41:19,542 --> 00:41:22,708 even consuming full coyotes? 1029 00:41:23,583 --> 00:41:25,667 This begs the question, 1030 00:41:25,875 --> 00:41:29,167 what is lurking in the darkest corners and regions 1031 00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:30,667 of Skinwalker Ranch? 1032 00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:36,958 TRAVIS: Let's get to drilling. 1033 00:41:37,167 --> 00:41:39,625 I'm hitting a layer that's almost harder than granite. 1034 00:41:39,708 --> 00:41:40,958 So, I got something over here you guys should take 1035 00:41:41,125 --> 00:41:42,458 a look at in the spoils. 1036 00:41:42,583 --> 00:41:44,000 Wait a minute, what? 1037 00:41:44,167 --> 00:41:46,250 KALEB: Hey, Travis, look what's over here. 1038 00:41:46,417 --> 00:41:48,375 TRAVIS: You got to be kidding me. 1039 00:41:48,542 --> 00:41:50,167 Wow. Look at this. 1040 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:51,542 THOMAS: Right when you get to the bubble wall, 1041 00:41:51,708 --> 00:41:53,583 it's pushing you back. 1042 00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:55,750 At this point, the drone doesn't know where the hell it is. 1043 00:41:55,875 --> 00:41:57,458 There's something right next to the drone. 1044 00:41:57,625 --> 00:41:59,292 Holy crap. Look at that. 1045 00:41:59,458 --> 00:42:00,792 What did we just witness here? 1046 00:42:03,875 --> 00:42:05,500 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 74494

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