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♪ ("MUSIC BOX"
THEME MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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Jason Isbell is one
of those song writers
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that makes you feel like
you know him and he knows you.
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This film is a document
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of some of the most
personal songs
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that Jason Isbell
has already written.
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And I wanted to discover
where the life
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and the art connect.
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♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
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♪ (GUITAR PLAYING) ♪
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For Sam's camera to work,
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we got to go back
to about right here.
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I don't like that as much,
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so I'm gonna move
Sam's camera back a little bit.
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That good?
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I think so.
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We are recording.
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- ♪ (GUITAR PLAYING) ♪
- ♪ (VIOLIN PLAYING) ♪
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I forgot to ask you
what key it was in.
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- It's in E.
- Aha.
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Let's start the--
- I started doing it in A.
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Start the recordings over.
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Okay.
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- ♪ (GUITAR PLAYING) ♪
- ♪ (VIOLIN PLAYING) ♪
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Where's--
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We did it one more time
the last time through.
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Ah, shit.
Let's start the recording over.
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- You ready?
Wait. No.
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Now it's saving or something.
Okay, now.
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One, ta, ta, two, ta, ta.
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Do it again?
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- The beginning.
- I liked that intro.
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- Oh, you didn't like it?
- Oh, I'm sorry.
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- Okay.
- I thought missed it.
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I didn't. Okay.
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One, two, three, two. Three...
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♪ (GENTLE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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Good morning.
Hey, how are you?
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Morning, Sadler.
What's up, man?
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How are you?
- Good.
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- Good to see you, bud.
Good to see you.
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- What's up, Darrell?
Hey, I know you.
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There's really
no more intrinsic value
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to making a record than there is
to writing in your journal
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when you're 15 years old,
you know?
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It's really
for the same purpose.
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There's something
that we have to say,
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and in the process
of figuring out
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how to say that,
we learn who we are.
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But I need to move forward
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as a person through this work.
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For me to do that, I have
to come to terms with things
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that don't make me look cool
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or don't paint me
in the best light
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or don't, you know,
promote an idea
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I have of controlling
my own image
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because cont--
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I think, controlling your image
is the opposite of creating art.
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My songs are things
that are under the surface
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of my own mind,
things that I'm dealing with
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and working through.
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But the trick for me is to make
a rock and roll record
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about all these things
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'cause you don't really want
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people to feel like
they're singing along
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with some sort of
a self-help catalogue.
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♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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- That sounds good.
- Really cool.
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She sent me
a message today. Let's see.
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I love you so much,
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and how much music
are you gonna make?
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Hello, Mercy.
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We are going to make an album,
which is nine or ten songs.
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And so, it's like
about 45 minutes long.
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And then she said--
To all that, she said...
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That sounds great.
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She's so funny, man.
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♪ ("RUNNING WITH OUR EYES
CLOSED" BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING) ♪
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♪ Took forever
To get you to trust me ♪
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♪ Like I was feeding
A bird from my hand ♪
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♪ And if this isn't love
Then it must be ♪
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♪ Another answer
I don't understand ♪
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♪ To a prayer that was please
And not thank you ♪
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♪ To a question
I wrote in the sand ♪
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♪ To a wish that I made
On a satellite ♪
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♪ From a witness in tears
On the stand ♪
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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♪ Well, you are who you are
When you're angry ♪
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♪ When you're scared
Or you're sad or you're bored ♪
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♪ When a stranger
Has slipped you a room key ♪
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♪ In a hotel
You couldn't afford ♪
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♪ We can never go back
And be strangers ♪
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♪ All our secrets
Are mixed and distilled ♪
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♪ But you've taught me
To temper my anger ♪
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♪ And you've learned
It's all right to be still ♪
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
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It's fucking unbelievable.
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- Unbelievable.
- Thank you.
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Play me that change
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from just the last chord
to the bridge.
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♪ We're running
With our eyes closed ♪
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One, two.
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Two, da-da.
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Prior to Jason,
any recording I've done,
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there would always be
weeks of rehearsal.
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This was kind of
a new territory for me
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where he brings
in the song the day of.
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You don't know the song,
you write your number chart out.
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Then you're sort of
off to the races
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and coming up with parts
and trying to lay it down.
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♪ Oh, running
With our eyes closed ♪
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It's ridiculously hard
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and the stupidest part
of recording.
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Can't practice it
'cause Dave doesn't make a demo.
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But then if I mess up,
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somebody's gonna want to try
to keep that probably.
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I don't--
It's just really scary.
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This might be
a weird suggestion.
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I like your weird suggestions.
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What if you play it
acoustic going down,
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then we take time
with the electric sound?
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- That's good with me.
- 'Cause it's such a cool part,
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I don't want to dig--
Just run past it.
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- You know what I mean?
- Yeah. The riff is a hook.
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- It's a hook and a half.
Yeah.
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Amanda
has heard the songs,
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but that's different, you know?
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That's a different
kind of collaboration.
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Like, I still don't really think
of it as she's in the band.
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And I need her to do
different things,
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and I think she needs to have
a different role.
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Did you write "to"?
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A stranger slips you
a room key "to" a hotel room
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you can't afford.
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- But I think that you are--
- But there's no slipping one
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- with inside the room key...
- Yeah, there is.
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If you're at the hotel bar
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and the stranger is trying
to pick you up,
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they would slip you a key
in the hotel.
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No, but you're...
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I've already went, like,
through this in my brain
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- about a dozen times.
- Well, this will just be
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permanently disagreed with
because it sounds like
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when you're on,
like, you're reading
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that you're in the room,
slipping the key.
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- This has already happened.
- How about--
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- How about "for"?
- Past.
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- For is fine.
- Or we just leave
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the article off and say...
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♪ When a stranger
Has slipped you a room key ♪
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♪ A hotel room
You couldn't afford ♪
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Or-- See,
I've already said "room" though.
That was my problem.
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I didn't want to use
"room" again that quickly.
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Do whatever you want.
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No, no.
- That's not gonna be a big deal.
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I'm not making--
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I'm really, like,
just discussing it.
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Why don't you
just make up a word?
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You're talking about it
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in the past, so it's like
"in" is not helpful.
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I feel like "in" and "to"
are in the same tense.
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When a stranger
has slipped you a room key.
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- Yeah, so you're in the--
- And moving tenses within--
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You're in
the present participle.
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Who is?
'Cause the person--
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The people who are existing here
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are in the present
participle tense,
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which means that they're
existing in the now...
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- No, but the--
- ...but discussing something
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that's happened in the past.
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No, b-- Okay. But see,
then you're mixing up
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all this in this middle.
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Just sing whatever you want
and then think about it later.
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No, I want to get it right.
That's--
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Then put "to."
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I feel like if I put "to,"
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it's gonna read like
you're getting key
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to the entire hotel.
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- Don't you think?
- To...
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I see what you mean.
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You know,
Amanda has a master's degree
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in creative writing.
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She gets in there with her pen
and gives him honest feedback.
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She's the only one
that hears anything
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before they go into the studio.
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I mean you could also say...
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♪ And a stranger
Has slipped you a room key ♪
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♪ For a room... ♪
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♪ To a room
You could never afford ♪
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- See? I like that.
- That's better.
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To a room, yeah. To a room.
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Once the songs get past her,
nobody scares me.
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Nobody. I don't give a shit.
I know it's right.
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Part of the reason
why he trusts me
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is because I can't suffer
a bad song,
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or, like, a clichéd lyric
unless it's turned a little bit.
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It works. It's hard.
It's a hard thing to do.
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You have to let go of your ego.
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If I was making people dance,
I wouldn't sit there
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and waste my time
on prepositions.
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But they are not
out there dancing.
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I got to get
those prepositions right.
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Yeah, beautiful.
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- Good?
Love it.
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- Okay.
Cool.
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It's got to be terrible
to sit in that chair.
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- What? Over there?
- I mean, I know it is.
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No, your chair.
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- Over here?
- To be putting a record out,
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- like, singing your songs...
- Man.
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...for the first time in front
of a group of people.
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- It is--
- Terrible.
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- No.
- It is.
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It's the most beautiful thing
I've ever done in my life
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outside of you and our daughter.
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Our method of recording
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relies on so much of your gut.
Wherever it takes you,
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that's where it goes.
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♪ Took forever to get you
To trust me... ♪
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It's a healthy way to do it
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because if you don't get it
in the first few times,
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you kind of lose
the spirit of it anyway.
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It's a very complex chemistry
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that just comes from
playing together
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for such a long time.
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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There's definitely
a spontaneity element
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to being in a studio
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that I think
is really important.
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Something that I have
always liked is hearing
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a really good musician
play a song
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before they actually know it.
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And once you learn the song,
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your mind is not focused
on creating.
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Your mind is focused
on recreating.
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You know, you can only
create something once,
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and if the tape's not rolling,
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then you're just
shit out of luck.
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I like the one
before it better.
- One before it?
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- Can we do one more?
Yeah.
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Just don't think.
Don't even tune.
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Okay. Don't think. Don't tune.
248
00:12:13,068 --> 00:12:15,070
You're only as good
as the last work you did,
249
00:12:15,070 --> 00:12:18,073
so there's this doubting
of self.
250
00:12:18,073 --> 00:12:19,875
You're just like, "This is
probably a bunch of shit.
251
00:12:19,875 --> 00:12:21,010
I don't know."
So, you're fighting
252
00:12:21,010 --> 00:12:24,013
with all these voices
inside your head.
253
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I don't know what you're doing,
but that's what I do.
254
00:12:25,981 --> 00:12:29,751
♪ (VIOLIN PLAYING, CONCLUDES) ♪
255
00:12:29,751 --> 00:12:32,121
♪ ("RUNNING WITH OUR EYES
CLOSED" BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING) ♪
256
00:12:32,121 --> 00:12:35,260
♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
257
00:12:40,164 --> 00:12:43,202
♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
258
00:12:45,202 --> 00:12:47,936
The writing of the songs,
that's the hardest part.
259
00:12:47,936 --> 00:12:50,840
My work is done
when I walk into the studio.
260
00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,811
So I don't feel
that kind of pressure.
261
00:12:53,612 --> 00:12:56,345
Oh, he's just lying to y'all.
262
00:12:56,345 --> 00:12:59,848
He is. He is.
I'm gonna drag him up here
263
00:12:59,848 --> 00:13:02,487
and tell him to answer
the question honestly.
264
00:13:03,754 --> 00:13:07,455
It's got to be a big lie, right?
It's got to drive him crazy.
265
00:13:07,455 --> 00:13:10,320
You just continue
to build pressure for yourself
266
00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,461
to outdo your last record.
267
00:13:12,461 --> 00:13:15,163
From this point forward
till when the record comes out,
268
00:13:15,163 --> 00:13:16,932
he's gonna be
a ball of anxiousness.
269
00:13:16,932 --> 00:13:18,600
That should be
where it ends right there.
270
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,702
- Yeah. That's the end.
Yeah.
271
00:13:19,702 --> 00:13:20,668
And I'm still--
272
00:13:20,668 --> 00:13:23,205
This guitar still sounds woofy
as hell to me.
273
00:13:23,205 --> 00:13:25,407
I'm excited.
I'm excited to be here,
274
00:13:25,407 --> 00:13:27,375
you know? It's like, uh--
275
00:13:27,375 --> 00:13:32,084
It's like the first day
of little league.
276
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♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
277
00:14:00,144 --> 00:14:01,376
Jason and I
have known each other
278
00:14:01,376 --> 00:14:04,112
for 18 years.
We were friends at first.
279
00:14:04,112 --> 00:14:07,987
But, like, you kind of know,
you know?
280
00:14:09,453 --> 00:14:11,687
I met Amanda
when I was recording
281
00:14:11,687 --> 00:14:13,722
with the Drive-By Truckers.
282
00:14:13,722 --> 00:14:16,424
I went into town
to go get drunk,
283
00:14:16,424 --> 00:14:19,561
and Amanda was playing
with Thrift Store Cowboys.
284
00:14:19,561 --> 00:14:22,698
There was, you know,
hardly anybody at the show.
285
00:14:22,698 --> 00:14:24,199
He got a folding chair
and went and sat
286
00:14:24,199 --> 00:14:26,462
in the middle of the floor.
There was, like, I don't know,
287
00:14:26,462 --> 00:14:28,069
probably like 12 people there.
288
00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:30,272
I thought
that was pretty ballsy.
289
00:14:30,272 --> 00:14:33,008
I said, "Aren't you supposed
to be famous?"
290
00:14:33,008 --> 00:14:36,248
As a joke,
she got me to sign a polaroid
291
00:14:36,914 --> 00:14:38,247
of the two of us, and it's--
292
00:14:38,247 --> 00:14:40,619
We have it in the bathroom
in the house now.
293
00:14:42,020 --> 00:14:44,085
We were just friends for years.
294
00:14:44,085 --> 00:14:46,622
But I probably always been
in love with her.
295
00:14:46,622 --> 00:14:48,691
Um. I definitely had.
296
00:14:48,691 --> 00:14:50,559
How many minutes
do we have left?
297
00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:53,428
We have 16.
298
00:14:53,428 --> 00:14:55,497
During that time,
I never thought really
299
00:14:55,497 --> 00:14:57,699
that I'd be enough
for him just because,
300
00:14:57,699 --> 00:15:01,406
well, he liked to hang out
with women, and he liked to,
301
00:15:02,173 --> 00:15:04,640
you know, do S-E-X.
302
00:15:06,241 --> 00:15:07,509
Funny aside,
I don't know
303
00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:09,344
if this is important
for the documentary or not,
304
00:15:09,344 --> 00:15:11,680
but I did make him take
an STD test
305
00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,382
before I hooked up with him.
306
00:15:13,382 --> 00:15:15,217
And then for, like,
the first year,
307
00:15:15,217 --> 00:15:17,787
he had it hanging
on the refrigerator, but...
308
00:15:20,422 --> 00:15:21,818
We're ready
when you're all ready.
309
00:15:21,818 --> 00:15:23,992
Ready? Come on.
Apparently, we're ready to rock.
310
00:15:23,992 --> 00:15:25,427
Have yourself
a good time out there.
311
00:15:25,427 --> 00:15:28,000
Thanks for joining me.
It's gonna be fun.
312
00:15:39,043 --> 00:15:45,350
♪ ("TRAVELING ALONE"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
313
00:15:58,262 --> 00:16:01,400
♪ Mountain's rough
This time of year ♪
314
00:16:03,968 --> 00:16:06,638
♪ Close the highway down ♪
315
00:16:08,006 --> 00:16:10,242
♪ They don't warn the town ♪
316
00:16:13,912 --> 00:16:17,149
♪ I've been fighting
Second gear ♪
317
00:16:19,718 --> 00:16:22,087
♪ For 15 miles or so ♪
318
00:16:23,420 --> 00:16:26,525
♪ Trying to beat
The angry snow ♪
319
00:16:29,359 --> 00:16:34,596
♪ I know every town
Worth passing through ♪
320
00:16:34,596 --> 00:16:41,673
♪ But what good does knowing do
With no one to show it to ♪
321
00:16:43,107 --> 00:16:47,943
♪ And I've grown
Tired of traveling alone ♪
322
00:16:47,943 --> 00:16:51,080
♪ Tired of traveling alone ♪
323
00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,317
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
324
00:16:55,317 --> 00:16:58,157
♪ Won't you ride with me ♪
325
00:16:59,423 --> 00:17:03,528
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
326
00:17:04,228 --> 00:17:07,262
♪ Tired of traveling alone ♪
327
00:17:07,262 --> 00:17:11,734
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
328
00:17:11,734 --> 00:17:14,273
♪ Won't you ride with me ♪
329
00:17:15,773 --> 00:17:17,676
♪ Won't you ride ♪
330
00:17:19,076 --> 00:17:21,276
I'm so grateful that
this is the person
331
00:17:21,276 --> 00:17:23,913
that I have to share this with.
332
00:17:23,913 --> 00:17:27,850
I feel included,
and I feel tethered
333
00:17:27,850 --> 00:17:29,788
to the world by her.
334
00:17:30,788 --> 00:17:35,227
She makes me feel like
I'm not an outcast.
335
00:17:36,227 --> 00:17:37,459
There was always some part of me
336
00:17:37,459 --> 00:17:39,962
that felt like
I don't belong here.
337
00:17:39,962 --> 00:17:44,469
And when she treats me
like I belong...
338
00:17:46,037 --> 00:17:50,675
I feel like I belong everywhere,
you know?
339
00:18:07,324 --> 00:18:12,060
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
340
00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:15,264
♪ Tired of traveling alone ♪
341
00:18:15,264 --> 00:18:19,434
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
342
00:18:19,434 --> 00:18:22,407
♪ Won't you ride with me ♪
343
00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:25,644
♪ Won't you ride ♪
344
00:18:27,645 --> 00:18:29,181
♪ Won't you ride ♪
345
00:18:40,291 --> 00:18:42,157
- Thank you.
346
00:18:42,157 --> 00:18:44,159
That's Amanda Shires
on the fiddle.
347
00:18:44,159 --> 00:18:45,526
It's a violin.
348
00:18:45,526 --> 00:18:47,630
I think that means
it's for sale.
349
00:18:49,164 --> 00:18:51,166
Right after we started
hanging out with each other,
350
00:18:51,166 --> 00:18:52,500
I said, "Now,
what is the difference
351
00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:56,138
between a violin and a fiddle?"
And she said,
352
00:18:56,138 --> 00:18:58,708
"Well, it's a fiddle
when you're buying it."
353
00:19:01,043 --> 00:19:03,378
It's a violin
when you're selling it.
354
00:19:03,378 --> 00:19:04,879
If she's calling it a violin,
355
00:19:04,879 --> 00:19:07,315
it's not because we're
in a fancy orchestral room,
356
00:19:07,315 --> 00:19:09,752
it's because she's looking
to upgrade.
357
00:19:12,254 --> 00:19:14,355
As long as you always
call me a fiddle.
358
00:19:16,258 --> 00:19:20,129
I get moved either
to laughter or to tears
359
00:19:20,129 --> 00:19:23,598
by very small things
that most people
360
00:19:23,598 --> 00:19:25,500
would not notice,
and if you point it out to them,
361
00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:27,269
they would think
you were strange.
362
00:19:27,269 --> 00:19:30,239
And she has looked at me
in a lot of fucking ways,
363
00:19:30,239 --> 00:19:31,873
but never once
has she looked at me
364
00:19:31,873 --> 00:19:33,212
like I'm strange.
365
00:19:34,646 --> 00:19:35,614
Never once.
366
00:19:37,848 --> 00:19:39,351
And everybody else has.
367
00:19:42,053 --> 00:19:43,522
At least once.
368
00:19:46,057 --> 00:19:47,892
Well, you're not strange anyway.
369
00:19:48,593 --> 00:19:49,561
Thank you.
370
00:19:50,727 --> 00:19:57,836
♪ ("CHILDREN OF CHILDREN"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
371
00:20:02,974 --> 00:20:04,605
I grew up in Alabama.
372
00:20:04,605 --> 00:20:08,543
It was very rural
and poor White, everybody.
373
00:20:08,543 --> 00:20:13,248
When we got pregnant with Jason,
we were kids, you know?
374
00:20:13,248 --> 00:20:17,689
I was 18 or so,
but Angelia was 16.
375
00:20:18,855 --> 00:20:21,156
When you're 16 years old,
you think you love him,
376
00:20:21,156 --> 00:20:23,258
and I did. I mean, you know,
377
00:20:23,258 --> 00:20:25,293
as much as you could
at that time.
378
00:20:25,293 --> 00:20:27,095
When I found out I was pregnant,
379
00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:28,463
I said,
"Oh, I'm gonna marry him,
380
00:20:28,463 --> 00:20:30,402
and we're gonna live
happily ever after."
381
00:20:31,435 --> 00:20:34,635
♪ I was riding
On my mother's hip ♪
382
00:20:34,635 --> 00:20:39,378
♪ She was shorter
Than the corn ♪
383
00:20:44,915 --> 00:20:48,216
♪ And all the years
I took from her ♪
384
00:20:48,216 --> 00:20:54,426
♪ Just by being born ♪
385
00:20:58,595 --> 00:21:00,561
Because we were so young,
386
00:21:00,561 --> 00:21:02,531
he didn't realize
he was a child.
387
00:21:02,531 --> 00:21:07,302
I had no barometer
for reaction.
388
00:21:07,302 --> 00:21:11,841
I felt a response
to all of my problems
389
00:21:11,841 --> 00:21:13,475
as though they were as big
390
00:21:13,475 --> 00:21:16,678
and as complicated
as the adult problems
391
00:21:16,678 --> 00:21:19,747
'cause I didn't have any other
eight-year-olds around.
392
00:21:19,747 --> 00:21:24,119
Also, there was
a pretty big religious undertone
393
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,854
to everything down there.
394
00:21:25,854 --> 00:21:28,189
You know, my grandfather
was a preacher,
395
00:21:28,189 --> 00:21:30,693
so as a young child,
I was taught
396
00:21:30,693 --> 00:21:34,062
that what this book says
is exactly true.
397
00:21:34,062 --> 00:21:36,732
The thoughts I was having
at seven and eight were guilt,
398
00:21:36,732 --> 00:21:38,733
guilt, guilt,
shame, shame, shame.
399
00:21:38,733 --> 00:21:42,007
"I'm gonna go to hell."
So that kept me up at night.
400
00:21:42,935 --> 00:21:44,506
Plus, I was a chubby kid,
401
00:21:44,506 --> 00:21:46,845
and definitely
not like everybody else.
402
00:21:48,046 --> 00:21:51,746
You know, I read books,
and I didn't play football.
403
00:21:51,746 --> 00:21:55,450
Just that was enough
to get pickles thrown at you
404
00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:57,422
in the lunchroom, you know?
405
00:21:58,388 --> 00:22:00,823
I was so stressed out
and anxious,
406
00:22:00,823 --> 00:22:03,391
and the I way I took my mind
out of all that
407
00:22:03,391 --> 00:22:05,427
or stopped the wheels
from spinning
408
00:22:05,427 --> 00:22:06,661
was by playing the guitar,
409
00:22:06,661 --> 00:22:08,328
sitting in my room,
playing the guitar.
410
00:22:17,742 --> 00:22:19,007
He had Strats.
411
00:22:19,007 --> 00:22:21,037
That’s what he liked back then
when he was young.
412
00:22:21,037 --> 00:22:22,411
And, man,
I'd hear him back there
413
00:22:22,411 --> 00:22:24,512
tearing that thing up.
414
00:22:24,512 --> 00:22:26,915
My parents
did everything they could
415
00:22:26,915 --> 00:22:30,818
to make my childhood
a positive experience,
416
00:22:30,818 --> 00:22:33,989
but they couldn't do everything
that they needed to do.
417
00:22:33,989 --> 00:22:36,525
You know, Dad was always
stressed about money.
418
00:22:36,525 --> 00:22:38,259
Mom was not great with money.
419
00:22:38,259 --> 00:22:41,466
And both had
a pretty short fuse.
420
00:22:42,634 --> 00:22:43,798
They would start arguing,
421
00:22:43,798 --> 00:22:46,538
and it was a very
quick escalation with them.
422
00:22:47,637 --> 00:22:50,906
Now, the house was small,
and the walls were thin,
423
00:22:50,906 --> 00:22:53,578
and the amp was loud.
424
00:22:54,579 --> 00:22:56,178
And so I couldn't hear 'em.
425
00:22:56,178 --> 00:22:58,781
If I turned it up loud
and played rock and roll guitar,
426
00:22:58,781 --> 00:23:00,583
I couldn't hear 'em yelling
at each other.
427
00:23:00,583 --> 00:23:03,855
♪ (ELECTRICAL GUITAR PLAYING) ♪
428
00:23:07,825 --> 00:23:09,191
He played good, you know?
429
00:23:09,191 --> 00:23:12,560
And sometimes we were arguing,
we'd stop and listen to him.
430
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,266
This is so hard for me.
He was sitting at the table,
431
00:23:17,266 --> 00:23:21,470
and he said,
"Mom, do you love Dad?"
432
00:23:21,470 --> 00:23:23,238
And I said,
"Of course I love Daddy.
433
00:23:23,238 --> 00:23:24,873
Why? Why would you ask me that?"
434
00:23:24,873 --> 00:23:28,944
And he said, "Well, I love him
'cause he's my daddy,
435
00:23:28,944 --> 00:23:31,816
but I wouldn't love him
if he was my husband."
436
00:23:33,184 --> 00:23:35,317
That's the burden that he had,
437
00:23:35,317 --> 00:23:38,087
and that's the clarity
that he had.
438
00:23:38,087 --> 00:23:41,290
He had a big heart
and was a good kid.
439
00:23:41,290 --> 00:23:43,525
It's a tough one
when they have that.
440
00:23:43,525 --> 00:23:45,361
You know, it's easier
to get broke.
441
00:24:06,617 --> 00:24:07,716
There was no culture
442
00:24:07,716 --> 00:24:09,618
of any kind
of psychological help
443
00:24:09,618 --> 00:24:12,320
for children or adults, whatsoever.
444
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,456
You were either fine
or you were crazy,
445
00:24:14,456 --> 00:24:16,659
and if you were crazy,
you went to the 400 Unit.
446
00:24:16,659 --> 00:24:17,793
And if you were fine,
447
00:24:17,793 --> 00:24:19,861
you shut up,
and you went to work.
448
00:24:19,861 --> 00:24:24,032
If not for playing the guitar,
and singing, writing songs,
449
00:24:24,032 --> 00:24:26,502
then I would've been lost
in that middle ground
450
00:24:26,502 --> 00:24:28,904
between fine and crazy.
451
00:24:28,904 --> 00:24:31,874
If that hadn't been there,
I don't, you know,
452
00:24:31,874 --> 00:24:33,308
I really don't know
if I would've been able
453
00:24:33,308 --> 00:24:36,815
to deal with the world at all.
I might've just checked out.
454
00:24:45,723 --> 00:24:47,622
Hearing a song
that really moves you
455
00:24:47,622 --> 00:24:49,191
is like if you
accidentally stumble
456
00:24:49,191 --> 00:24:52,794
on somebody's diary
and it was exactly like yours.
457
00:24:52,794 --> 00:24:55,964
You would say, "Oh, my God,
there's one person
458
00:24:55,964 --> 00:24:59,867
who had the same feelings
that I did," you know?
459
00:24:59,867 --> 00:25:02,304
And all of us are kind
of walking around, thinking,
460
00:25:02,304 --> 00:25:03,872
"Man, am I weird?
461
00:25:03,872 --> 00:25:05,573
Am I the only one
who feels this way?"
462
00:25:05,573 --> 00:25:07,676
And then when somebody
reaches in and says,
463
00:25:07,676 --> 00:25:09,010
"No, no, I'm with you,"
464
00:25:09,010 --> 00:25:10,646
that's it. That's all it is,
you know?
465
00:25:10,646 --> 00:25:11,881
Let's do one more
from the tippy.
466
00:25:11,881 --> 00:25:13,248
It's gonna be hard.
467
00:25:13,248 --> 00:25:14,619
You can do it.
468
00:25:15,887 --> 00:25:17,452
Okay.
469
00:25:17,452 --> 00:25:20,055
♪ And just stand
Stand there ♪
470
00:25:20,055 --> 00:25:27,232
♪ ("DREAMSICLE"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
471
00:25:29,033 --> 00:25:31,500
♪ I guess
We're leaving town again ♪
472
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,902
♪ We're moving out
And moving in ♪
473
00:25:33,902 --> 00:25:36,639
♪ Got to break the news
To all my friends ♪
474
00:25:36,639 --> 00:25:38,940
♪ But they won't care ♪
475
00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:41,476
♪ They'll just find
Another face ♪
476
00:25:41,476 --> 00:25:43,812
♪ To fall behind
To take my place ♪
477
00:25:43,812 --> 00:25:46,314
♪ And run way out
Past second base ♪
478
00:25:46,314 --> 00:25:48,653
♪ And just stand there ♪
479
00:25:49,954 --> 00:25:51,053
One more like that. That's cool.
480
00:25:51,053 --> 00:25:54,156
Okay.
- ♪ To fall behind... ♪
481
00:25:54,156 --> 00:25:57,392
Every single word
of "Dreamsicle"
482
00:25:57,392 --> 00:25:59,894
just hit me
with the broken glass,
483
00:25:59,894 --> 00:26:03,031
the poison ivy. Just words
that nobody else understands,
484
00:26:03,031 --> 00:26:04,199
you know?
485
00:26:04,199 --> 00:26:07,802
Things that I didn't realize
that he actually remembered.
486
00:26:07,802 --> 00:26:10,071
That's the thing about him,
you know, he don't forget much.
487
00:26:10,071 --> 00:26:13,275
His songs are all about,
you know, about real things.
488
00:26:13,275 --> 00:26:15,677
♪ Poison oak and poison ivy ♪
489
00:26:15,677 --> 00:26:18,080
♪ Dirty jokes
That blew right by me ♪
490
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,918
♪ Momma curling up beside me
Crying to herself ♪
491
00:26:22,918 --> 00:26:25,454
♪ Why can't Daddy
Just come home ♪
492
00:26:25,454 --> 00:26:27,755
♪ Forget whatever he did wrong ♪
493
00:26:27,755 --> 00:26:32,360
♪ He's in a hotel all alone
And we need help ♪
494
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,162
Let's punch that line.
495
00:26:34,162 --> 00:26:35,325
Twenty-one?
496
00:26:35,325 --> 00:26:36,532
Is that the right approach?
497
00:26:36,532 --> 00:26:37,532
Yeah, and it sounds
498
00:26:37,532 --> 00:26:38,767
like the sentiment,
so that's great.
499
00:26:38,767 --> 00:26:40,363
Right, right.
You're not gonna be like,
500
00:26:40,363 --> 00:26:42,003
"I'm so proud
of my parents' divorce!"
501
00:26:42,003 --> 00:26:44,105
Yeah, exactly.
502
00:26:44,105 --> 00:26:45,408
You know,
I still remember
503
00:26:45,408 --> 00:26:46,774
my parents fighting.
504
00:26:46,774 --> 00:26:49,511
And I remember how that felt,
and I remember, you know,
505
00:26:49,511 --> 00:26:51,146
the things that caused me
to be sad
506
00:26:51,146 --> 00:26:52,748
or to be stressed
or to be anxious.
507
00:26:52,748 --> 00:26:54,315
I remember those things.
508
00:26:54,315 --> 00:26:56,552
You know, one time,
we were in an argument,
509
00:26:56,552 --> 00:26:57,785
and it was bad.
510
00:26:57,785 --> 00:26:59,988
And Jason threw the baseball
through the window.
511
00:26:59,988 --> 00:27:01,857
The baseball through the window
was to get them
512
00:27:01,857 --> 00:27:04,796
to shut the hell up
for three seconds.
513
00:27:05,697 --> 00:27:07,796
♪ Broken glass and broken vows ♪
514
00:27:07,796 --> 00:27:10,198
♪ I'll be 18
Four years from now ♪
515
00:27:10,198 --> 00:27:12,735
♪ With different friends
In a different town ♪
516
00:27:12,735 --> 00:27:14,730
♪ I'll finally be free ♪
517
00:27:14,730 --> 00:27:16,838
But I definitely felt
like I was in the middle
518
00:27:16,838 --> 00:27:20,942
of their trouble for years.
Because I was put in the middle.
519
00:27:20,942 --> 00:27:24,713
My anger towards one parent
was driven by the other parent.
520
00:27:24,713 --> 00:27:27,015
And I knew that
they weren't supposed
521
00:27:27,015 --> 00:27:28,984
to be doing that to me.
522
00:27:28,984 --> 00:27:31,123
♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
523
00:27:42,933 --> 00:27:44,900
People say,
"I have no regrets,"
524
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:46,666
but I can pull some up.
525
00:27:47,471 --> 00:27:49,241
Took me a long time to grow up.
526
00:27:50,508 --> 00:27:53,075
The way I found out
that they were getting a divorce
527
00:27:53,075 --> 00:27:55,977
was my mom picked me up
from baseball camp.
528
00:27:55,977 --> 00:27:58,113
And she said, "We're leaving."
529
00:27:58,113 --> 00:28:01,350
And she told me
that we would come back,
530
00:28:01,350 --> 00:28:07,722
but we were doing that
so Dad would realize how he was.
531
00:28:07,722 --> 00:28:10,386
And so for a long time,
I thought that was possible.
532
00:28:10,386 --> 00:28:13,528
And it's not.
Turns out.
533
00:28:13,528 --> 00:28:17,365
♪ A dreamsicle
On a summer night ♪
534
00:28:17,365 --> 00:28:20,602
♪ In a folding lawn chair ♪
535
00:28:20,602 --> 00:28:23,171
She took me
to a hotel that night.
536
00:28:23,171 --> 00:28:27,009
♪ Daddy's howling at the moon
Better get home soon ♪
537
00:28:27,009 --> 00:28:28,243
We went to the mall,
538
00:28:28,243 --> 00:28:30,979
and she bought me
Don Mattingly's rookie card.
539
00:28:30,979 --> 00:28:33,014
I was a fan of Don Mattingly.
540
00:28:33,014 --> 00:28:36,685
♪ Heat lightning
In the evening sky ♪
541
00:28:36,685 --> 00:28:40,255
♪ And my momma's red hair ♪
542
00:28:40,255 --> 00:28:42,958
I was touched
by the gesture.
543
00:28:42,958 --> 00:28:45,126
I knew what she was doing,
you know?
544
00:28:45,126 --> 00:28:47,728
And I felt for her
because I knew
545
00:28:47,728 --> 00:28:50,769
she was trying to change
the subject, you know?
546
00:28:52,869 --> 00:28:55,871
♪ Hearts breaking
Through the springtime ♪
547
00:28:55,871 --> 00:28:58,277
♪ Breaking into June ♪
548
00:29:00,779 --> 00:29:02,847
♪ Breaking into June ♪
549
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:07,920
♪ Breaking into June ♪
550
00:29:09,253 --> 00:29:10,289
That's it.
551
00:29:11,455 --> 00:29:13,025
We done, baby. Come on in.
552
00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:17,759
All right. Back it up.
553
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,262
Make four. Just mark four
as being master take.
554
00:29:20,262 --> 00:29:22,197
Okay.
Awesome. Awesome.
555
00:29:22,197 --> 00:29:24,666
'Cause Dave still thinks
the song's about ice cream.
556
00:29:24,666 --> 00:29:26,735
- If it is about ice cream,
557
00:29:26,735 --> 00:29:28,237
this is my favorite song
on the record.
558
00:29:29,204 --> 00:29:32,574
♪ Heat lightning
In the evening sky ♪
559
00:29:32,574 --> 00:29:36,548
♪ And my momma's red hair ♪
560
00:29:39,049 --> 00:29:42,350
♪ Hearts breaking
Through the springtime ♪
561
00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:44,256
♪ Breaking into June ♪
562
00:29:47,058 --> 00:29:48,393
♪ Breaking into June ♪
563
00:29:51,963 --> 00:29:53,532
♪ Breaking into June ♪
564
00:30:04,206 --> 00:30:08,880
♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
565
00:30:13,084 --> 00:30:17,720
♪ Amanda, light of my life ♪
566
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,921
You got
a crazy hair sticking
567
00:30:18,921 --> 00:30:20,823
out the side right there.
568
00:30:20,823 --> 00:30:22,257
So cute. Here,
I'll smooth it out for you
569
00:30:22,257 --> 00:30:23,858
so it looks like shit.
570
00:30:23,858 --> 00:30:29,464
- ♪ Amanda, light of my life ♪
571
00:30:29,464 --> 00:30:34,339
♪ Fate should've made you
A gentleman's wife ♪
572
00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:37,840
It's called "Be Afraid."
573
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,742
But what key
are you going to do it in?
574
00:30:39,742 --> 00:30:41,046
G.
575
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,048
All right.
576
00:30:45,315 --> 00:30:48,417
♪ We've been testing you
And you failed ♪
577
00:30:48,417 --> 00:30:50,185
- That thing's so loud.
What is?
578
00:30:50,185 --> 00:30:52,655
- The fiddle is right on me.
Oh.
579
00:30:52,655 --> 00:30:54,890
- Wow.
- So, do I need to move?
580
00:30:54,890 --> 00:30:57,396
No, I will back up.
- Okay. Okay.
581
00:30:58,663 --> 00:31:00,429
What?
582
00:31:00,429 --> 00:31:03,264
Just the same amount as normal.
583
00:31:03,264 --> 00:31:08,136
♪ ("BE AFRAID"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
584
00:31:08,136 --> 00:31:11,911
♪ We've been testing you
And you failed ♪
585
00:31:13,545 --> 00:31:14,409
♪ To see how long ♪
586
00:31:14,409 --> 00:31:15,878
♪ That you can sit
With the truth ♪
587
00:31:15,878 --> 00:31:17,847
♪ But you bail ♪
588
00:31:17,847 --> 00:31:19,848
♪ And I don't think
You'd even recognize ♪
589
00:31:19,848 --> 00:31:21,150
♪ The myth of control ♪
590
00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:23,986
♪ And I don't think
You even see it in yourself ♪
591
00:31:23,986 --> 00:31:25,954
♪ Every one of us
Is playing dice ♪
592
00:31:25,954 --> 00:31:27,189
♪ That we didn't roll ♪
593
00:31:27,189 --> 00:31:30,129
♪ And the loser is the last
To ask for help ♪
594
00:31:31,729 --> 00:31:34,533
♪ Be afraid, be very afraid ♪
595
00:31:35,734 --> 00:31:38,233
♪ But do it anyway ♪
596
00:31:38,233 --> 00:31:40,869
Songwriting has gotten
harder for me
597
00:31:40,869 --> 00:31:42,672
as time has gone on
598
00:31:42,672 --> 00:31:45,007
just because
I won't accept things
599
00:31:45,007 --> 00:31:46,307
that I used to accept.
600
00:31:46,307 --> 00:31:49,210
I won't be satisfied
unless this album
601
00:31:49,210 --> 00:31:52,414
is an accurate representation
of where I am as a person,
602
00:31:52,414 --> 00:31:54,215
which means
that I'm more focused
603
00:31:54,215 --> 00:31:55,884
than I used to be in the studio.
604
00:31:55,884 --> 00:31:58,720
This is the cycle
of anxiousness.
605
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,223
Like, any kind of thing
that's going on his brain
606
00:32:01,223 --> 00:32:04,696
just presents as grumpiness,
but really, it's something more.
607
00:32:06,997 --> 00:32:07,996
Then whatever,
608
00:32:07,996 --> 00:32:09,064
- however we end it.
Cool.
609
00:32:09,064 --> 00:32:11,367
I would love
if you change your playing
610
00:32:11,367 --> 00:32:13,035
to very jangly
611
00:32:13,035 --> 00:32:14,837
instead of that blocky thing,
you know.
612
00:32:14,837 --> 00:32:17,272
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It would be way cooler.
613
00:32:17,272 --> 00:32:20,075
Yes, and that's a good start,
just right there. Like that.
614
00:32:20,075 --> 00:32:21,811
Should I play
a twelve-string electric?
615
00:32:21,811 --> 00:32:23,779
- Might be cooler than-- Yes...
- No.
616
00:32:23,779 --> 00:32:26,014
- No? Amanda hates those.
- I hate that.
617
00:32:26,014 --> 00:32:27,948
- Can we--
- 'Cause they don't have
any in Texas.
618
00:32:29,353 --> 00:32:31,921
I know how he gets
when he makes records,
619
00:32:31,921 --> 00:32:34,322
whether or not he sees it
at the time or not.
620
00:32:34,322 --> 00:32:37,327
I'm not super comfortable
being the whipping girl,
621
00:32:37,327 --> 00:32:39,528
so I just chill.
622
00:32:39,528 --> 00:32:41,396
I don't believe that
you're the whipping girl,
623
00:32:41,396 --> 00:32:44,432
but most people don't go
to work with their wife.
624
00:32:44,432 --> 00:32:45,935
Most people come home,
and it's like,
625
00:32:45,935 --> 00:32:47,335
"Oh, my God,
I'm so glad to see you.
626
00:32:47,335 --> 00:32:49,504
I can't wait to tell you
about my day."
627
00:32:49,504 --> 00:32:54,209
But she knows about my day.
What are we gonna talk about?
628
00:32:54,209 --> 00:32:56,278
You know, "Oh, my God,
I'm so glad to see you.
629
00:32:56,278 --> 00:32:58,246
- I saw you 45 seconds ago."
630
00:32:58,246 --> 00:33:00,015
"And you fucked up
that harmony part.
631
00:33:00,015 --> 00:33:01,249
And that was cool,
remember that?
632
00:33:01,249 --> 00:33:02,717
- Okay, good night."
- Rub it in.
633
00:33:02,717 --> 00:33:05,988
"What do you want
to watch tonight? All right."
634
00:33:05,988 --> 00:33:08,123
Did you want to be
in the control room or out here?
635
00:33:08,123 --> 00:33:10,192
- I'll just be up here.
Okay.
636
00:33:10,192 --> 00:33:14,029
Since the sound of my fiddle
was so much louder than normal.
637
00:33:15,596 --> 00:33:18,199
My fiddle was
so much louder than normal.
638
00:33:18,199 --> 00:33:20,705
It's just like, dink-dink
in my brain.
639
00:33:21,939 --> 00:33:23,038
- Dink?
- Yeah, dink-dink!
640
00:33:23,038 --> 00:33:24,439
That's what I sound like?
641
00:33:24,439 --> 00:33:27,309
- Dink-dink.
- You sound like a dink.
642
00:33:27,309 --> 00:33:28,347
Dink.
643
00:33:29,413 --> 00:33:31,279
Remember that grumpiness
I was talking about?
644
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:34,183
- That's what just happened.
- Let's do the Magnatone.
645
00:33:34,183 --> 00:33:36,118
Fucking loud fiddle.
646
00:33:36,118 --> 00:33:38,020
No, it's not.
It's always this loud.
647
00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:39,321
This is...
648
00:33:39,321 --> 00:33:42,161
Isn't it? Yeah.
That's what I thought.
649
00:33:45,963 --> 00:33:48,500
The 12-string guitar, geez.
650
00:33:49,901 --> 00:33:51,032
If I was producing this record,
651
00:33:51,032 --> 00:33:52,602
I'd take
all the 12-string guitars
652
00:33:52,602 --> 00:33:53,772
and give them away.
653
00:33:56,174 --> 00:33:57,538
Are we gonna play
this song?
654
00:33:57,538 --> 00:33:59,107
That's what
I'm talking about.
655
00:33:59,107 --> 00:34:00,275
We're standing here with our...
656
00:34:00,275 --> 00:34:01,843
- Is there a song?
- ...dicks in the dirt.
657
00:34:01,843 --> 00:34:04,446
I waited two hours
for somebody else's burrito.
658
00:34:04,446 --> 00:34:06,416
Y'all going to let me
tune this guitar.
659
00:34:10,921 --> 00:34:13,088
Fuck those people.
I-- Yeah, I know.
660
00:34:13,088 --> 00:34:15,123
I'm the one paying
for this shit.
661
00:34:15,123 --> 00:34:16,591
Sometimes he needs
a lot of space.
662
00:34:16,591 --> 00:34:18,493
- You're goddamn right.
- He's a big fucking man.
663
00:34:18,493 --> 00:34:21,130
You know, I'm a man
from Alabama, for Christ sakes.
664
00:34:21,130 --> 00:34:22,764
- If the floor's shaking...
- That's what we do.
665
00:34:22,764 --> 00:34:23,899
...Momma's gonna get some space.
666
00:34:23,899 --> 00:34:26,205
Anyway, I don't have--
I can't go on.
667
00:34:28,872 --> 00:34:31,573
Yeah, you got something to do,
or you just want to get out?
668
00:34:31,573 --> 00:34:33,809
Oh, I got
things that I could do.
669
00:34:33,809 --> 00:34:35,010
Okay, that's fine.
670
00:34:35,010 --> 00:34:37,278
I mean, 'cause I was gonna do
either the...
671
00:34:37,278 --> 00:34:40,082
♪ Hard part is letting you go ♪
672
00:34:40,082 --> 00:34:41,183
Oh, yeah, that's...
673
00:34:41,183 --> 00:34:42,317
- That one.
Yeah.
674
00:34:42,317 --> 00:34:44,987
Probably do that one later,
but, you know,
675
00:34:44,987 --> 00:34:46,387
it'd be cool
if you were here for it.
676
00:34:46,387 --> 00:34:48,857
If you don't want to be,
you don't have to be.
677
00:34:48,857 --> 00:34:49,991
Let's do this.
678
00:34:49,991 --> 00:34:51,359
This is--
Let's do this right now.
679
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:54,029
I don't think I'll be able
to think about this right now
680
00:34:54,029 --> 00:34:55,998
'til we've discussed.
681
00:34:55,998 --> 00:34:58,837
I'll send you a text.
- Okay. Okay.
682
00:35:01,372 --> 00:35:05,240
Trying to navigate being
in a relationship
683
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,975
where we are family
and we are married
684
00:35:07,975 --> 00:35:12,081
and we have a child together,
and also working in the studio,
685
00:35:12,081 --> 00:35:13,582
you know, is a challenge.
686
00:35:13,582 --> 00:35:18,219
And I don't mean this
to be an excuse for anything.
687
00:35:18,219 --> 00:35:19,887
You know,
it's my own damn fault.
688
00:35:19,887 --> 00:35:22,324
But when I have a hard day,
I can't just go home
689
00:35:22,324 --> 00:35:23,525
and have a drink.
690
00:35:23,525 --> 00:35:26,061
And used to,
that's what I would do.
691
00:35:26,061 --> 00:35:29,732
So there's no escape... for me.
692
00:35:29,732 --> 00:35:30,966
There's the thing, though.
693
00:35:30,966 --> 00:35:32,401
There's the puzzle
you're working out,
694
00:35:32,401 --> 00:35:34,770
that you need to figure out,
I think. "There's no escape."
695
00:35:34,770 --> 00:35:35,936
There is an escape.
696
00:35:35,936 --> 00:35:38,106
You just have to figure out
what it is, and it's music.
697
00:35:38,106 --> 00:35:39,341
- We know that.
- Right.
698
00:35:39,341 --> 00:35:40,976
But I'm not gonna go home
from the studio and sit
699
00:35:40,976 --> 00:35:42,177
and play guitar all night.
700
00:35:42,177 --> 00:35:44,012
Well, no, I know.
But I'm just saying,
701
00:35:44,012 --> 00:35:45,750
then you should find
another one.
702
00:35:48,452 --> 00:35:49,721
You know what I mean?
703
00:35:50,288 --> 00:35:52,921
Yeah. Yeah, I do.
704
00:35:52,921 --> 00:35:57,258
Um. And what I would prefer
that to be, in a perfect world,
705
00:35:57,258 --> 00:35:59,594
is spending time
with my daughter,
706
00:35:59,594 --> 00:36:02,264
but I just don't have
time right now.
707
00:36:02,264 --> 00:36:03,564
Well, it's not
that you don't have time.
708
00:36:03,564 --> 00:36:05,304
It's the schedules
are different.
709
00:36:07,539 --> 00:36:11,839
Um. And that wears on me.
710
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:14,910
If I don't get much time
with her, it wears on me.
711
00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:17,649
Pretty quickly. Um...
712
00:36:19,717 --> 00:36:20,719
And that's that.
713
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:29,794
♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
714
00:36:34,665 --> 00:36:36,030
Hello, Dave.
Hey, dude.
715
00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:38,266
How you doing, buddy?
Fantastic, how about you?
716
00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:39,802
I had a rough night,
but I'm good.
717
00:36:39,802 --> 00:36:40,835
What happened?
718
00:36:40,835 --> 00:36:43,171
Just, you know,
we'll talk about it later.
719
00:36:43,171 --> 00:36:44,409
Okay.
720
00:36:45,643 --> 00:36:47,576
But I'm happy to be here.
721
00:36:47,576 --> 00:36:50,846
Everything is not good,
but I am in the studio,
722
00:36:50,846 --> 00:36:52,814
so this feels comfortable.
723
00:36:52,814 --> 00:36:55,250
Yeah, why do you think
I work in the studio every day?
724
00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:57,352
Yeah, no shit, man.
725
00:36:57,352 --> 00:36:58,520
So I didn't really sleep,
726
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,789
- but, man, I'm good.
- Yeah.
727
00:37:01,791 --> 00:37:03,525
- Y'all want to do a song?
Yeah.
728
00:37:03,525 --> 00:37:06,094
- All right.
Here we go.
729
00:37:06,094 --> 00:37:09,564
♪ She waits for the sunshine ♪
730
00:37:09,564 --> 00:37:11,695
Okay, wait.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
731
00:37:11,695 --> 00:37:13,734
One, two, three, four.
732
00:37:13,734 --> 00:37:16,505
♪ Ain't it something
How the night can shine ♪
733
00:37:16,505 --> 00:37:19,541
Let's do it again.
One, two, three, four.
734
00:37:19,541 --> 00:37:21,610
♪ Ain't it something
How the night ♪
735
00:37:21,610 --> 00:37:26,348
Walk into it.
One, two, ready go.
736
00:37:26,348 --> 00:37:29,217
Ah. I counted that
like a fucking idiot.
737
00:37:29,217 --> 00:37:31,186
- Wow.
738
00:37:31,186 --> 00:37:33,155
While we were recording Reunions,
739
00:37:33,155 --> 00:37:34,289
I was telling myself,
740
00:37:34,289 --> 00:37:36,458
"This is good.
This is fine. This is easy.
741
00:37:36,458 --> 00:37:40,332
You have this under control."
And that was not true.
742
00:37:44,601 --> 00:37:47,302
What was true was,
I was really pressured
743
00:37:47,302 --> 00:37:49,438
and very stressed
and sort of having
744
00:37:49,438 --> 00:37:51,739
a come-apart in there.
745
00:37:51,739 --> 00:37:54,446
Like, "Ugh, is this gonna
be any good or not?"
746
00:38:02,419 --> 00:38:04,114
Amanda could definitely
see something
747
00:38:04,114 --> 00:38:06,754
that even I couldn't see
at that point.
748
00:38:06,754 --> 00:38:09,925
That's, I think, the thing
that frustrates her the most
749
00:38:09,925 --> 00:38:13,095
is when I refuse
to acknowledge something
750
00:38:13,095 --> 00:38:14,830
that she can see.
751
00:38:14,830 --> 00:38:17,299
I just couldn't be
around it anymore
752
00:38:17,299 --> 00:38:18,703
'cause it was so...
753
00:38:21,138 --> 00:38:23,008
fake. It was so fake.
754
00:38:25,576 --> 00:38:29,579
♪ Somebody told her
She was beautiful ♪
755
00:38:29,579 --> 00:38:32,084
♪ Every time she turned around ♪
756
00:38:33,550 --> 00:38:36,852
♪ But when she opened up
Her mouth to speak ♪
757
00:38:36,852 --> 00:38:40,588
♪ It clearly didn't make
A sound ♪
758
00:38:40,588 --> 00:38:46,429
Everything
was so magnified and intense,
759
00:38:46,429 --> 00:38:47,662
and I just was like,
760
00:38:47,662 --> 00:38:50,731
if you could just say
that all this bullshit
761
00:38:50,731 --> 00:38:54,336
is because you're nervous
or under pressure or whatever
762
00:38:54,336 --> 00:38:55,536
that'd go a lot further
763
00:38:55,536 --> 00:38:59,374
than pretending it all away,
you know?
764
00:38:59,374 --> 00:39:02,939
♪ She waits
For the sun to rise ♪
765
00:39:02,939 --> 00:39:04,746
♪ Behind his midnight eyes ♪
766
00:39:04,746 --> 00:39:07,410
♪ And the windstorm
Had passed ♪
767
00:39:07,410 --> 00:39:10,618
♪ And ain't it something
How the night can shine ♪
768
00:39:10,618 --> 00:39:14,955
♪ Through a bottle
of wine against a bedroom wall ♪
769
00:39:14,955 --> 00:39:18,093
♪ And ain't it something
When her eyes light up ♪
770
00:39:18,093 --> 00:39:22,701
♪ And it's exactly enough
And you can let yourself fall ♪
771
00:39:29,173 --> 00:39:33,445
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
772
00:39:35,246 --> 00:39:37,049
We done.
- Good, thank God.
773
00:39:38,482 --> 00:39:39,780
So, you're coming
later tomorrow?
774
00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:42,250
Yep. I just have to sleep
'cause I didn't last night...
775
00:39:42,250 --> 00:39:44,953
Yeah.
- ...so I won't be any later
than 2:00, though.
776
00:39:44,953 --> 00:39:46,722
Okay, you should go home
777
00:39:46,722 --> 00:39:48,556
and just put your iPhone
outside tonight
778
00:39:48,556 --> 00:39:50,158
- for a little while.
779
00:39:50,158 --> 00:39:52,227
And bring the noise in
780
00:39:52,227 --> 00:39:53,661
- from your home.
Oh, record?
781
00:39:53,661 --> 00:39:54,930
Yeah.
- Yeah, that would be nice,
782
00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:56,932
but I'm not going
to my home tonight.
783
00:39:56,932 --> 00:39:59,635
Oh, okay.
- Anything'll sound too good
784
00:39:59,635 --> 00:40:00,869
in the hall at the Omni.
785
00:40:00,869 --> 00:40:02,472
Oh, is that
where you're staying tonight?
786
00:40:02,472 --> 00:40:03,742
Yeah.
787
00:40:05,976 --> 00:40:07,913
Well...
- Maybe tomorrow, Dave.
788
00:40:09,113 --> 00:40:11,407
Well, whenever you do.
789
00:40:11,407 --> 00:40:13,413
All right, everybody,
I'll see you guys tomorrow.
790
00:40:14,851 --> 00:40:18,153
Jason
is extremely hard on himself,
791
00:40:18,153 --> 00:40:22,590
and it can be painful
for everyone around him.
792
00:40:22,590 --> 00:40:26,061
I knew the first moment
I ever met him,
793
00:40:26,061 --> 00:40:30,465
he was destined for greatness.
794
00:40:30,465 --> 00:40:33,834
But Jason was young
when he joined our band.
795
00:40:33,834 --> 00:40:36,137
I had always planned
on being in a band.
796
00:40:36,137 --> 00:40:40,075
I'd always had that
as my driving force, you know?
797
00:40:40,075 --> 00:40:42,077
The Drive-By Truckers had played
in Nashville
798
00:40:42,077 --> 00:40:44,480
at one of the first
Americana Music Conferences,
799
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,614
and the next day,
800
00:40:45,614 --> 00:40:47,015
the guitar player
didn't show up,
801
00:40:47,015 --> 00:40:48,650
and Jason just sat in.
802
00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:49,885
You know, I was like,
"Man, you mind
803
00:40:49,885 --> 00:40:52,992
if I play with you guys
since you're one short?"
804
00:40:56,193 --> 00:41:00,032
He was like
a way-next-level guitar player.
805
00:41:00,665 --> 00:41:01,729
Jason's playing along
806
00:41:01,729 --> 00:41:03,732
like he had been rehearsing it
for years.
807
00:41:03,732 --> 00:41:04,933
So at the end of the night,
808
00:41:04,933 --> 00:41:06,634
I was like, "Hey, man,
get in the van.
809
00:41:06,634 --> 00:41:09,705
Let's go play some
rock and roll."
810
00:41:09,705 --> 00:41:11,807
I was, "Yes, I'm there.
I'll do it."
811
00:41:11,807 --> 00:41:13,141
You know, I wanted to get out,
812
00:41:13,141 --> 00:41:15,244
get on the road, and tour.
And I wanted to write songs.
813
00:41:15,244 --> 00:41:19,714
I wanted people to hear 'em.
I was so excited. So excited.
814
00:41:19,714 --> 00:41:22,517
The next day,
his mom dropped him off
815
00:41:22,517 --> 00:41:24,685
to get in our van
to leave for Oklahoma.
816
00:41:24,685 --> 00:41:29,128
And Jason's like,
"Mom, whatever you do,
817
00:41:29,994 --> 00:41:31,526
don't say,
818
00:41:31,526 --> 00:41:33,461
'Take care of my boy,
or something like that.'"
819
00:41:33,461 --> 00:41:35,863
She's sizing me up. It's like,
820
00:41:35,863 --> 00:41:38,699
"You're not gonna let my boy
die out there, are you?"
821
00:41:38,699 --> 00:41:41,536
They open the back of the van,
and there lays Earl Hicks,
822
00:41:41,536 --> 00:41:44,267
passed out drunk.
Patterson comes around.
823
00:41:44,267 --> 00:41:45,607
And he puts his arm
around Jason,
824
00:41:45,607 --> 00:41:47,042
and he says, "Don't worry, Mom.
825
00:41:47,042 --> 00:41:49,144
We're gonna take real good care
of your boy."
826
00:41:49,144 --> 00:41:51,814
It was like that scene
from Almost Famous, you know?
827
00:41:51,814 --> 00:41:53,915
"Don't do drugs!"
828
00:41:53,915 --> 00:41:56,585
- Y'all know Jason, don't you?
829
00:42:00,622 --> 00:42:03,824
Coming into that
was mind-boggling for me
830
00:42:03,824 --> 00:42:06,862
because it really was
exchanging everything I knew
831
00:42:06,862 --> 00:42:09,930
for something
completely different.
832
00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:13,301
There was a lot of humor,
and there was a lot of drinking
833
00:42:13,301 --> 00:42:17,105
and a lot of things
that I had never seen before.
834
00:42:17,105 --> 00:42:21,076
The first tour
with Jason was beyond magical.
835
00:42:21,076 --> 00:42:23,812
He wrote "Decoration Day"
like the fourth day
836
00:42:23,812 --> 00:42:26,442
he was in the band.
I'm like, "Holy shit,
837
00:42:26,442 --> 00:42:27,949
where's this kid been
all my life," you know?
838
00:42:27,949 --> 00:42:30,719
It's like, "Oh,
elementary school."
839
00:42:32,287 --> 00:42:34,659
♪ It's Decoration Day ♪
840
00:42:36,326 --> 00:42:41,329
♪ Had a mind to roll
A stone on his grave ♪
841
00:42:41,329 --> 00:42:44,299
♪ But what would he say? ♪
842
00:42:44,299 --> 00:42:49,942
♪ He'd say, "Keeping me down
Ain't gonna keep you away" ♪
843
00:42:50,908 --> 00:42:53,278
♪ It's Decoration Day ♪
844
00:42:54,606 --> 00:42:59,348
♪ And I knew
The Hill boys put him away ♪
845
00:42:59,348 --> 00:43:02,654
♪ But my daddy wasn't afraid ♪
846
00:43:03,453 --> 00:43:05,020
♪ He said, "We'd fight ♪
847
00:43:05,020 --> 00:43:09,825
♪ Until the last Lawson's
Last living day" ♪
848
00:43:09,825 --> 00:43:12,627
It was everything
I ever wanted.
849
00:43:12,627 --> 00:43:14,796
You know, the things
that I'd sit in my room
850
00:43:14,796 --> 00:43:17,699
and rehearsed while my parents
were getting a divorce.
851
00:43:17,699 --> 00:43:21,369
It was the fantasy
that I went to to disconnect
852
00:43:21,369 --> 00:43:22,905
from the house that I was in.
853
00:43:22,905 --> 00:43:25,707
It was everything.
It was everything.
854
00:43:25,707 --> 00:43:27,275
No matter what went wrong
in my life,
855
00:43:27,275 --> 00:43:29,010
I thought, "But I can do this."
856
00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:30,779
With Jason joining the band,
857
00:43:30,779 --> 00:43:34,716
we basically jumped
from one size room
858
00:43:34,716 --> 00:43:38,020
over the next size room
to the next size room
859
00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:40,155
in a space
of about three months.
860
00:43:40,155 --> 00:43:43,892
We had this chemistry
that made us better together
861
00:43:43,892 --> 00:43:46,161
than any of us were separate.
862
00:43:46,161 --> 00:43:50,260
And so it was like
this really powerful thing.
863
00:43:50,260 --> 00:43:52,567
♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
864
00:43:52,567 --> 00:43:53,734
The Drive-By Truckers
865
00:43:53,734 --> 00:43:56,505
were pretty established
and, you know, kind of
866
00:43:56,505 --> 00:43:58,907
"professional drinkers,"
867
00:43:58,907 --> 00:44:00,942
you know, by the time
he joined the band.
868
00:44:00,942 --> 00:44:03,112
And it was just a rolling party.
869
00:44:03,112 --> 00:44:05,080
I mean,
we drank a lot, you know?
870
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,419
We rocked hard. We drank hard.
We drove hard. We lived hard.
871
00:44:17,228 --> 00:44:19,595
It wouldn't be right
for me to say all of the sudden,
872
00:44:19,595 --> 00:44:21,731
I started drinking
and doing drugs
873
00:44:21,731 --> 00:44:23,064
when I joined the band.
874
00:44:23,064 --> 00:44:25,768
It's just that the situations
were heavier
875
00:44:25,768 --> 00:44:27,202
than what I'd been used to.
876
00:44:27,202 --> 00:44:28,871
♪ ("DANKO / MANUEL"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
877
00:44:28,871 --> 00:44:32,077
♪ I ain't living like I should ♪
878
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,415
♪ A little rest
Might do me good ♪
879
00:44:40,415 --> 00:44:43,852
I think drinking
gave him confidence.
880
00:44:43,852 --> 00:44:45,988
Not, "I'm gonna be a badass
and fight you,
881
00:44:45,988 --> 00:44:50,225
but I can express myself
whereas I am that Southern man
882
00:44:50,225 --> 00:44:52,928
who doesn't express himself
if I'm not drinking."
883
00:44:52,928 --> 00:44:57,399
♪ And I ain't living
Like I should ♪
884
00:44:57,399 --> 00:45:00,630
I was adjusting
to the world outside
885
00:45:00,630 --> 00:45:03,372
- of my Alabama upbringing...
886
00:45:03,372 --> 00:45:06,236
...and dealing with stuff
from my childhood
887
00:45:06,236 --> 00:45:07,375
that I never dealt with.
888
00:45:07,375 --> 00:45:09,110
I mean, that's probably
the biggest part of it,
889
00:45:09,110 --> 00:45:11,212
was the fact that...
...you know,
890
00:45:11,212 --> 00:45:14,049
I never had any kind of therapy
and didn't know
891
00:45:14,049 --> 00:45:17,322
that my problems were problems
that could be solved.
892
00:45:18,589 --> 00:45:20,188
We can look back now
893
00:45:20,188 --> 00:45:23,459
and see a lot
of dangerous patterns emerging
894
00:45:23,459 --> 00:45:24,760
with his drinking.
895
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,928
But we were
a little oblivious to that,
896
00:45:26,928 --> 00:45:28,797
I'm ashamed to say, at the time.
897
00:45:28,797 --> 00:45:31,834
We would be on stage performing
and handing each other
898
00:45:31,834 --> 00:45:33,401
the bottle of whiskey
and take a swig
899
00:45:33,401 --> 00:45:35,170
out of the bottle, you know?
900
00:45:35,170 --> 00:45:37,640
Then after the show,
you'd go out to a bar,
901
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,041
I mean, already lit,
902
00:45:39,041 --> 00:45:41,910
and go out to have six
or seven more.
903
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:44,783
It just snowballed.
904
00:45:47,718 --> 00:45:49,451
There was one night
in Memphis
905
00:45:49,451 --> 00:45:55,323
that was the first ever hint
of there being this dark side,
906
00:45:55,323 --> 00:45:58,827
you know, 'cause he was so--
he was so Jason.
907
00:45:58,827 --> 00:46:00,295
He was kind of a ray of light.
908
00:46:02,030 --> 00:46:05,233
I was highly inebriated.
I drank, you know,
909
00:46:05,233 --> 00:46:08,738
an entire handle
of Jack Daniel's.
910
00:46:08,738 --> 00:46:11,507
I took some cocaine
and some valium
911
00:46:11,507 --> 00:46:12,840
or something like that.
912
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,412
And I overdosed and, you know,
woke up all bloody.
913
00:46:17,412 --> 00:46:20,281
And Shonna, the bass player
in the Drive-By Truckers,
914
00:46:20,281 --> 00:46:23,318
who I was dating at the time,
was slapping me
915
00:46:23,318 --> 00:46:25,955
and crying and thought
that I was dead.
916
00:46:25,955 --> 00:46:28,524
He was pretty cut up
and looked like
917
00:46:28,524 --> 00:46:29,991
he had been in a fight.
918
00:46:29,991 --> 00:46:32,827
He might've been cutting himself
a little bit. I don't know.
919
00:46:32,827 --> 00:46:36,198
It-- Something got
really fucked up that night.
920
00:46:36,198 --> 00:46:38,261
Obviously,
some things had gone
921
00:46:38,261 --> 00:46:39,972
very wrong with Jason.
922
00:46:41,538 --> 00:46:45,808
♪ So I'll take two
Of what you're having ♪
923
00:46:45,808 --> 00:46:49,879
♪ And I'll take all
Of what you got ♪
924
00:46:49,879 --> 00:46:53,549
♪ To kill this goddamn lonely ♪
925
00:46:53,549 --> 00:46:57,189
♪ Goddamn lonely love ♪
926
00:47:02,893 --> 00:47:05,794
I felt like
what I was gonna do
927
00:47:05,794 --> 00:47:07,830
was straighten my life out,
928
00:47:07,830 --> 00:47:09,898
and I felt like
I owed it to Shonna
929
00:47:09,898 --> 00:47:12,834
because she had taken care
of me.
930
00:47:12,834 --> 00:47:15,471
We went, I think, the next day
to the courthouse
931
00:47:15,471 --> 00:47:16,504
and got married.
932
00:47:16,504 --> 00:47:20,743
But I was not prepared
for a marriage or any kind
933
00:47:20,743 --> 00:47:24,046
of a real relationship
at that point.
934
00:47:24,046 --> 00:47:28,183
♪ All I got
Is this goddamn lonely ♪
935
00:47:28,183 --> 00:47:32,053
♪ Goddamn lonely love ♪
936
00:47:32,053 --> 00:47:34,723
I just wasn't being
an actual grown-up.
937
00:47:34,723 --> 00:47:37,659
I had built the illusion
of grown-upness,
938
00:47:37,659 --> 00:47:40,165
but I was not living
as an adult.
939
00:47:41,933 --> 00:47:43,393
The Drive-By Truckers
were playing
940
00:47:43,393 --> 00:47:44,700
at Webster Hall one night.
941
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,101
And I remember getting
to the venue,
942
00:47:46,101 --> 00:47:49,938
and Jason just announces to me,
"I'm getting divorced."
943
00:47:49,938 --> 00:47:53,576
When the relationship
between Jason and Shonna
944
00:47:53,576 --> 00:47:55,047
started going bad...
945
00:47:57,247 --> 00:48:00,649
you know, that affected
all of us for sure.
946
00:48:00,649 --> 00:48:02,450
By that time, we're in a bus,
947
00:48:02,450 --> 00:48:05,053
but a bus becomes
a really small place quick
948
00:48:05,053 --> 00:48:07,222
when there's 11 people
living in it.
949
00:48:07,222 --> 00:48:12,094
That period was bad.
That was a bad time in my life.
950
00:48:14,963 --> 00:48:17,166
He was,
in a lot of ways,
951
00:48:17,166 --> 00:48:19,300
spiraling out of control.
952
00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:23,771
And I saw the potential
for that to get a lot worse.
953
00:48:23,771 --> 00:48:28,480
There was a point where I was
definitely worried about,
954
00:48:29,113 --> 00:48:30,412
you know, him dying.
955
00:48:30,412 --> 00:48:33,414
The situation with Jason
had gotten so bad
956
00:48:33,414 --> 00:48:35,420
that it was just--
it was making us
957
00:48:36,020 --> 00:48:37,486
not enjoy our job.
958
00:48:37,486 --> 00:48:39,621
It was threatening
the life of the band.
959
00:48:39,621 --> 00:48:42,591
Honestly, I think
his ego also started growing
960
00:48:42,591 --> 00:48:43,826
and getting out of control.
961
00:48:43,826 --> 00:48:46,328
And there's only
so much people can take.
962
00:48:46,328 --> 00:48:48,964
Patterson and Cooley
just put a stop to it.
963
00:48:48,964 --> 00:48:51,100
It was shocking to me
when I was fired.
964
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:54,235
But in hindsight, it should
not have been shocking to me.
965
00:48:54,235 --> 00:48:55,637
Now,
I look back at it,
966
00:48:55,637 --> 00:48:58,440
and, yeah, I would've fired
that guy too. What an asshole.
967
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,843
Breaking up
with Jason damn near killed me
968
00:49:00,843 --> 00:49:02,177
in a lot of ways. I mean,
969
00:49:02,177 --> 00:49:06,214
I was beyond heartbroken
to see it ending like that.
970
00:49:06,214 --> 00:49:09,151
I was terrified about what
it was gonna do to the band
971
00:49:09,151 --> 00:49:12,054
because he was
a vital important part
972
00:49:12,054 --> 00:49:13,755
of what we were doing.
973
00:49:13,755 --> 00:49:16,925
- That's a big thing to lose.I mean, I didn't want
974
00:49:16,925 --> 00:49:18,861
my parents
to get a divorce either.
975
00:49:18,861 --> 00:49:20,362
But, you know now
I'm glad they did
976
00:49:20,362 --> 00:49:23,032
'cause in hindsight,
they were pretty...
977
00:49:23,032 --> 00:49:24,499
...you know, pretty miserable.
978
00:49:24,499 --> 00:49:26,935
Definitely felt some guilt
979
00:49:26,935 --> 00:49:29,037
when things started
going wrong with him.
980
00:49:29,037 --> 00:49:31,073
Maybe we should've handled it differently.
981
00:49:31,073 --> 00:49:32,574
Maybe we should've been
more aware.
982
00:49:32,574 --> 00:49:36,111
Maybe we should've, you know,
maybe I should've.
983
00:49:36,111 --> 00:49:38,647
Maybe I should've been
more aware.
984
00:49:38,647 --> 00:49:43,485
I was the one who put him
in that van that night.
985
00:49:43,485 --> 00:49:46,288
I'm the one who told his momma
he was gonna be okay.
986
00:49:46,288 --> 00:49:48,589
You know, it's very sad.
It was very sad.
987
00:49:48,589 --> 00:49:52,061
I went to a bar
to go get very, very drunk
988
00:49:52,061 --> 00:49:54,696
and ordered a double
and then another one
989
00:49:54,696 --> 00:49:58,466
and another one and another one.
For five more years.
990
00:49:58,466 --> 00:50:02,574
♪ ("ONLY CHILDREN"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
991
00:50:07,879 --> 00:50:10,379
♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪
992
00:50:10,379 --> 00:50:12,815
♪ That's what your momma said ♪
993
00:50:12,815 --> 00:50:15,587
♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪
994
00:50:16,287 --> 00:50:17,519
♪ Heaven's waste... ♪
995
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:19,691
Why that doesn't feel
right to me.
996
00:50:22,026 --> 00:50:25,026
For the bridge, so, uh, C.
997
00:50:25,026 --> 00:50:26,396
♪ Heaven's waste... ♪
998
00:50:26,396 --> 00:50:27,296
Let's try C...
999
00:50:27,296 --> 00:50:29,098
♪ Heaven's wasted
On the dead ♪
1000
00:50:29,098 --> 00:50:30,899
How've you been doing?
- ♪ (MUSIC STOPS) ♪
1001
00:50:30,899 --> 00:50:32,067
Hey,
where have you been lately?
1002
00:50:32,067 --> 00:50:34,936
Oh, just doing
all kinds of stuff.
1003
00:50:34,936 --> 00:50:37,438
I like your glasses.
- Thank you.
1004
00:50:37,438 --> 00:50:40,743
- You know, got to keep it vibey.
1005
00:50:40,743 --> 00:50:43,674
♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪
1006
00:50:43,674 --> 00:50:45,613
♪ That's what your momma said ♪
1007
00:50:45,613 --> 00:50:49,421
♪ And the hearse idling
In the parking lot ♪
1008
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,187
So we'll take it
from right after the chorus
1009
00:50:52,187 --> 00:50:53,689
so everybody knows
where they're at. Okay?
1010
00:50:53,689 --> 00:50:54,789
Okay.
- Back up.
1011
00:50:54,789 --> 00:50:56,425
On the bridge,
should I play a chord, like...
1012
00:50:56,425 --> 00:50:58,493
- No, no. Keep picking, yeah.
Just keep going? Okay.
1013
00:50:58,493 --> 00:51:00,095
♪ ("ONLY CHILDREN"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1014
00:51:00,095 --> 00:51:02,932
♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪
1015
00:51:02,932 --> 00:51:04,799
♪ That's what your momma said ♪
1016
00:51:04,799 --> 00:51:08,673
♪ And the hearse was idling
In the parking lot ♪
1017
00:51:10,641 --> 00:51:13,742
♪ She said you thought
The world of me ♪
1018
00:51:13,742 --> 00:51:15,676
♪ And you were glad to see ♪
1019
00:51:15,676 --> 00:51:19,618
♪ They finally let me be
An astronaut ♪
1020
00:51:37,501 --> 00:51:44,406
♪ Are you still taking notes?
You have anyone to talk to? ♪
1021
00:51:44,406 --> 00:51:48,310
♪ Castle walls
That you can walk through? ♪
1022
00:51:48,310 --> 00:51:52,213
♪ And do the dead believe
In ghosts? ♪
1023
00:51:52,213 --> 00:51:55,083
♪ Or are you lost
In some old building ♪
1024
00:51:55,083 --> 00:51:58,457
♪ With over-encouraged
Only children? ♪
1025
00:52:10,935 --> 00:52:12,433
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1026
00:52:12,433 --> 00:52:14,502
Amazing. Do you wanna go
into overdubs,
1027
00:52:14,502 --> 00:52:16,205
or do you want to go
into another song?
1028
00:52:16,205 --> 00:52:18,507
Oh, I need
about 20 minutes to myself.
1029
00:52:18,507 --> 00:52:21,043
So I'm gonna take that,
and then I'll come in and do...
1030
00:52:21,043 --> 00:52:22,281
All right.
1031
00:52:22,981 --> 00:52:24,549
Can I talk to you for a minute?
1032
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:27,649
I mean, now's not
a really great time for me,
1033
00:52:27,649 --> 00:52:30,419
- but... Okay.
Okay, no problem.
1034
00:52:30,419 --> 00:52:34,223
My wife and I got in a spot
that was probably pretty close
1035
00:52:34,223 --> 00:52:36,591
to just calling
the whole thing off.
1036
00:52:36,591 --> 00:52:40,395
Uh, yeah, it was definitely
close to that.
1037
00:52:40,395 --> 00:52:43,866
She was offended by my behavior,
and I was offended by hers.
1038
00:52:43,866 --> 00:52:46,867
We just kept our distance
for a week or more.
1039
00:52:46,867 --> 00:52:49,766
That's part of what made it
so difficult for me,
1040
00:52:49,766 --> 00:52:51,172
was the fact that we didn't know
1041
00:52:51,172 --> 00:52:52,574
what to say to each other,
you know?
1042
00:52:52,574 --> 00:52:54,677
We didn't know how to talk
or communicate
1043
00:52:54,677 --> 00:52:56,344
at that point in time.
1044
00:52:56,344 --> 00:52:58,646
Yeah, but th--
He was being an asshat.
1045
00:52:58,646 --> 00:53:00,315
He wouldn't talk to me
on the phone.
1046
00:53:00,315 --> 00:53:02,985
He wouldn't respond
to my text messages.
1047
00:53:02,985 --> 00:53:06,621
I sent an email
full of my thoughts,
1048
00:53:06,621 --> 00:53:10,392
and he didn't respond for,
like, fucking three days.
1049
00:53:10,392 --> 00:53:12,227
I just-- I have
to be able to work
1050
00:53:12,227 --> 00:53:14,129
no matter what stupid shit
is going on.
1051
00:53:14,129 --> 00:53:15,697
Really, you can? I can't.
1052
00:53:15,697 --> 00:53:17,332
Well, I don't have
a choice, Dave.
1053
00:53:17,332 --> 00:53:19,801
- It's either that or fail.
Yeah.
1054
00:53:19,801 --> 00:53:23,800
Um, I think now we can switch
into overdub.
1055
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,677
Yeah, I think so, too.
1056
00:53:28,378 --> 00:53:30,045
All right,
here we go from the top.
1057
00:53:30,045 --> 00:53:34,553
♪ ("ST. PETER'S AUTOGRAPH"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1058
00:53:37,922 --> 00:53:39,288
"Dear Mr. Husband,
1059
00:53:39,288 --> 00:53:41,389
I know you're under
a lot of stress and pressure,
1060
00:53:41,389 --> 00:53:44,459
whether you think it or not.
I can see it in your face.
1061
00:53:44,459 --> 00:53:45,893
I know that you aren't sleeping,
1062
00:53:45,893 --> 00:53:49,431
and focusing so hard
is probably wearing you out.
1063
00:53:49,431 --> 00:53:52,734
I'm sorry all this happened
during your record-making.
1064
00:53:52,734 --> 00:53:54,903
The other night,
I was truly asking questions
1065
00:53:54,903 --> 00:53:57,272
and trying to figure out my role
in the studio
1066
00:53:57,272 --> 00:54:00,742
because it felt a lot like
I was unnecessary.
1067
00:54:00,742 --> 00:54:03,345
You made comments to me
that embarrassed me.
1068
00:54:03,345 --> 00:54:04,913
Then you couldn't answer
the question about
1069
00:54:04,913 --> 00:54:07,115
if I should be there or not
because you wanted me
1070
00:54:07,115 --> 00:54:08,450
to decide for myself.
1071
00:54:08,450 --> 00:54:11,456
Or as you said, 'I don't know
if I need you there.'
1072
00:54:12,822 --> 00:54:14,589
You were holding on so tight
to your position
1073
00:54:14,589 --> 00:54:17,559
that you couldn't see that you
were hurting my feelings.
1074
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:20,499
I had, and still have,
so many tears.
1075
00:54:23,328 --> 00:54:25,233
I was considering
marriage counseling with you
1076
00:54:25,233 --> 00:54:27,835
this last week
because I thought it might help.
1077
00:54:27,835 --> 00:54:30,906
Then this morning, I pictured
us going, and I was happy.
1078
00:54:30,906 --> 00:54:32,978
Who gets excited
about marriage counseling?
1079
00:54:34,345 --> 00:54:36,611
Then I cried like a dingbat
because this is
1080
00:54:36,611 --> 00:54:39,380
what it has come to for me,
for us.
1081
00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:42,184
Dates to marriage counseling.
1082
00:54:42,184 --> 00:54:44,452
You know that I am open
to most all things,
1083
00:54:44,452 --> 00:54:46,388
and I'm quick to accept my share
1084
00:54:46,388 --> 00:54:49,328
or more of my share
of the blame." Whoo.
1085
00:54:51,229 --> 00:54:53,494
"You said,
'I'm not broken anymore.'
1086
00:54:53,494 --> 00:54:56,331
I know that.
I appreciate how strong you are
1087
00:54:56,331 --> 00:54:58,367
and the ways
that you have changed.
1088
00:54:58,367 --> 00:55:01,269
I don't need you to be broken
or dented or anything.
1089
00:55:01,269 --> 00:55:04,773
I just love you.
See you at the stooge."
1090
00:55:07,175 --> 00:55:14,619
♪ ("ST. PETER'S AUTOGRAPH"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1091
00:55:29,566 --> 00:55:32,571
♪ What do I do
To make you smile? ♪
1092
00:55:34,806 --> 00:55:37,409
♪ You been hurting for a while ♪
1093
00:55:40,277 --> 00:55:44,344
♪ What can I do
To make you laugh? ♪
1094
00:55:45,382 --> 00:55:47,953
♪ Get Saint Peter's autograph ♪
1095
00:55:50,521 --> 00:55:53,658
♪ What's that distance
In your eye? ♪
1096
00:55:55,792 --> 00:55:58,863
♪ Has your faith
Been compromised? ♪
1097
00:56:01,031 --> 00:56:04,736
♪ What can I do
To help you sleep? ♪
1098
00:56:06,437 --> 00:56:09,041
♪ I'll work hard
And work for cheap ♪
1099
00:56:11,875 --> 00:56:17,146
♪ Sometimes it's nothing
But the way you're wired ♪
1100
00:56:17,146 --> 00:56:19,584
♪ And that's not your fault ♪
1101
00:56:22,686 --> 00:56:27,557
♪ We're all struggling
With the world on fire ♪
1102
00:56:27,557 --> 00:56:30,862
♪ And the fear we're taught ♪
1103
00:56:35,366 --> 00:56:38,037
♪ Now you've lost
Another friend ♪
1104
00:56:40,637 --> 00:56:43,675
♪ Who couldn't stay
To see the end ♪
1105
00:56:45,777 --> 00:56:49,081
♪ He had somewhere else to be ♪
1106
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:54,153
♪ Cut him down
And burn the tree ♪
1107
00:56:56,453 --> 00:57:00,625
♪ There's no shelter
From the rain ♪
1108
00:57:01,858 --> 00:57:05,164
♪ And I can't comprehend
Your pain ♪
1109
00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:11,470
♪ But I got arms
And I got ears ♪
1110
00:57:12,569 --> 00:57:15,707
♪ And I will always be
Right here ♪
1111
00:58:02,419 --> 00:58:05,224
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1112
00:58:10,761 --> 00:58:13,529
Amanda and I have very
different personalities
1113
00:58:13,529 --> 00:58:15,563
but identical values.
1114
00:58:15,563 --> 00:58:17,833
I think at the root of things,
we both care very,
1115
00:58:17,833 --> 00:58:20,068
very much for each other
and very much
1116
00:58:20,068 --> 00:58:21,370
for each other's work.
1117
00:58:21,370 --> 00:58:24,273
I don't think
she's done with me,
1118
00:58:24,273 --> 00:58:25,974
and I'm not done with her.
1119
00:58:25,974 --> 00:58:28,271
So, sometimes it's like,
"Well, we can't figure out
1120
00:58:28,271 --> 00:58:30,979
exactly how to get
the bridge built,
1121
00:58:30,979 --> 00:58:33,983
but I'm just gonna wave
at you from this side."
1122
00:58:33,983 --> 00:58:37,085
Then you have
to keep your own identity
1123
00:58:37,085 --> 00:58:40,422
and your own boundaries intact,
I think. So, I think sometimes,
1124
00:58:40,422 --> 00:58:41,856
like, space and time
is a good thing
1125
00:58:41,856 --> 00:58:43,859
'cause we, like, live together,
we work together,
1126
00:58:43,859 --> 00:58:45,427
- we record together.
- Yeah, that's a big one.
1127
00:58:45,427 --> 00:58:46,794
- That's a big one.
- And so sometimes,
1128
00:58:46,794 --> 00:58:51,003
it's nice to take a breath
and be, like... you know...
1129
00:59:16,419 --> 00:59:19,427
Well, hello.
Look at your overalls.
1130
00:59:19,427 --> 00:59:20,957
I have a present for you.
1131
00:59:20,957 --> 00:59:22,264
What is it?
1132
00:59:22,264 --> 00:59:23,965
- Aw!
Open it.
1133
00:59:23,965 --> 00:59:25,968
Come on in.
I'll open it inside.
1134
00:59:25,968 --> 00:59:27,397
- Hey, guys.
Hey, buddy.
1135
00:59:27,397 --> 00:59:28,904
- How you doing?
Thanks for coming.
1136
00:59:28,904 --> 00:59:30,275
♪ (SOFT VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1137
00:59:40,651 --> 00:59:42,278
I haven't been here
in a long time.
1138
00:59:42,278 --> 00:59:43,619
I know.
It's been a while.
1139
00:59:43,619 --> 00:59:45,324
What do you think
about the place?
1140
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,995
You hear that?
Who's that sound like?
1141
00:59:52,995 --> 00:59:54,967
Mommy.
Yeah.
1142
00:59:57,101 --> 00:59:58,337
That's neat too.
1143
00:59:59,371 --> 01:00:00,703
Go see her.
1144
01:00:00,703 --> 01:00:02,605
- Hey!
Hey, Mercy.
1145
01:00:02,605 --> 01:00:05,441
- What's up?
1146
01:00:05,441 --> 01:00:06,841
How are you doing?
1147
01:00:06,841 --> 01:00:08,910
I gave Daddy a present.
You did?
1148
01:00:08,910 --> 01:00:12,952
Mm. Give me some love.
I missed you so much.
1149
01:00:16,788 --> 01:00:18,958
Thank y'all for bringing her by.
1150
01:00:19,791 --> 01:00:22,558
Open it!
- Look at that!
1151
01:00:22,558 --> 01:00:23,625
It's me and Santa.
1152
01:00:23,625 --> 01:00:26,494
That's the best picture
I ever got.
1153
01:00:26,494 --> 01:00:28,267
That's the best picture
I ever gotten.
1154
01:00:31,201 --> 01:00:33,836
- I love you, buddy.
- Did you eat the chocolate?
1155
01:00:33,836 --> 01:00:36,571
I haven't yet.
I put it in my pocket.
1156
01:00:36,571 --> 01:00:38,940
I'm gonna eat it
at the perfect time.
1157
01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:41,576
- After dinner.
- Yeah.
1158
01:00:41,576 --> 01:00:43,945
♪ ("WHAT'VE I DONE TO HELP"
BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS) ♪
1159
01:00:43,945 --> 01:00:47,715
♪ We climbed to safety
You and me and the baby ♪
1160
01:00:47,715 --> 01:00:50,152
♪ Sent our thoughts
And prayers to loved ones ♪
1161
01:00:50,152 --> 01:00:51,223
♪ On the ground ♪
1162
01:00:54,491 --> 01:00:59,127
♪ And as the days went by
We just stopped looking down ♪
1163
01:00:59,127 --> 01:01:01,196
♪ Down, down ♪
1164
01:01:01,196 --> 01:01:05,600
♪ Now the world's on fire
And we just climb higher ♪
1165
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,272
♪ Until we're no longer bothered
By the smoke and sound ♪
1166
01:01:10,272 --> 01:01:14,910
♪ Good people suffer
And the heart gets tougher ♪
1167
01:01:14,910 --> 01:01:18,850
♪ Nothing given, nothing found ♪
1168
01:01:20,251 --> 01:01:24,453
♪ What've I done to help?
What've I done to help? ♪
1169
01:01:24,453 --> 01:01:26,358
♪ Somebody saved me ♪
1170
01:01:28,225 --> 01:01:29,257
♪ (SONG FADES) ♪
1171
01:01:29,257 --> 01:01:30,826
I don't look at something
and think,
1172
01:01:30,826 --> 01:01:32,261
"This is gonna be difficult."
1173
01:01:32,261 --> 01:01:35,998
I just look at it and think,
"Is this worth doing or not?"
1174
01:01:35,998 --> 01:01:39,868
Is it better for us to do this
as a team?
1175
01:01:39,868 --> 01:01:41,904
My family
is incredibly important to me,
1176
01:01:41,904 --> 01:01:44,173
but my job is very important
to me, too,
1177
01:01:44,173 --> 01:01:47,376
because I know
that I could not be
1178
01:01:47,376 --> 01:01:49,712
of any use to anybody else
1179
01:01:49,712 --> 01:01:51,213
if I had to do
something different
1180
01:01:51,213 --> 01:01:53,516
with my life. I mean,
this is the mask
1181
01:01:53,516 --> 01:01:55,617
that I have to put on first
1182
01:01:55,617 --> 01:01:58,388
before I can put
anybody else's on, you know?
1183
01:01:58,388 --> 01:01:59,254
Dave, you ready?
1184
01:01:59,254 --> 01:02:00,889
Do you want to sit
the couch or...
1185
01:02:00,889 --> 01:02:02,824
I think here is fine.
Okay.
1186
01:02:02,824 --> 01:02:04,829
Let's put it in record, Gena.
1187
01:02:06,297 --> 01:02:07,262
All right.
1188
01:02:07,262 --> 01:02:10,899
♪ ("LETTING YOU GO"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1189
01:02:10,899 --> 01:02:14,937
♪ The nurse helped us buckle
The seat in the car ♪
1190
01:02:14,937 --> 01:02:17,473
♪ And they sent us on our way ♪
1191
01:02:17,473 --> 01:02:19,941
♪ I drove home so slow ♪
1192
01:02:19,941 --> 01:02:24,013
♪ We had no instructions
And the first days were hard ♪
1193
01:02:24,013 --> 01:02:26,648
♪ But there's things
About babies ♪
1194
01:02:26,648 --> 01:02:29,054
♪ A woman just knows ♪
1195
01:02:32,489 --> 01:02:34,723
♪ At 3:00 in the morning ♪
1196
01:02:34,723 --> 01:02:37,825
♪ I lay my hand
Over your heart ♪
1197
01:02:37,825 --> 01:02:41,429
♪ Just to know you were safe
In your sleep ♪
1198
01:02:41,429 --> 01:02:45,533
♪ When you started walking
I'd fight back the urge ♪
1199
01:02:45,533 --> 01:02:50,875
♪ To stay right there beside you
To keep you on your feet ♪
1200
01:02:54,811 --> 01:02:58,083
♪ And being your daddy
Comes natural ♪
1201
01:02:59,583 --> 01:03:02,454
♪ Roses just know how to grow ♪
1202
01:03:04,122 --> 01:03:05,753
♪ It's easy to see ♪
1203
01:03:05,753 --> 01:03:08,390
♪ That you'll get
Where you're going ♪
1204
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:12,461
♪ But the hard part
Is letting you go... ♪
1205
01:03:12,461 --> 01:03:13,796
♪ (SONGS CONCLUDES) ♪
1206
01:03:13,796 --> 01:03:17,565
- Hmm, hmm. Hmm.
Shit, dude. Whoo.
1207
01:03:17,565 --> 01:03:21,569
- That's incredible.
- Thank you. Take me a minute.
1208
01:03:21,569 --> 01:03:24,072
And then, the older you get,
the more emotional you get.
1209
01:03:24,072 --> 01:03:25,941
Like, I can't hardly talk
to anybody
1210
01:03:25,941 --> 01:03:29,011
without something
choking me up now.
1211
01:03:29,011 --> 01:03:30,445
It's a good thing
you don't have a bunch
1212
01:03:30,445 --> 01:03:32,881
of hired guns in your band
when that happens
1213
01:03:32,881 --> 01:03:35,117
'cause they'd be going off
tomorrow to Black Bird
1214
01:03:35,117 --> 01:03:36,284
and telling everybody
in the studio,
1215
01:03:36,284 --> 01:03:38,587
"That son of a bitch was crying
at his own song.
1216
01:03:38,587 --> 01:03:39,955
What an asshole."
1217
01:03:39,955 --> 01:03:41,423
♪ (SONG CONTINUES) ♪
1218
01:03:41,423 --> 01:03:45,560
♪ And now you've decided
To be someone's wife ♪
1219
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:50,698
♪ And we walk down the aisle
And I'll give you away ♪
1220
01:03:50,698 --> 01:03:55,103
♪ I wish I could walk with him
Back through your life ♪
1221
01:03:55,103 --> 01:04:00,245
♪ To see every last minute
Of every last day ♪
1222
01:04:04,215 --> 01:04:05,948
♪ To hear your first words ♪
1223
01:04:05,948 --> 01:04:08,616
♪ And to feel
Your first heartbreak ♪
1224
01:04:08,616 --> 01:04:13,521
♪ To sing you to sleep
When you're scared of the dark ♪
1225
01:04:13,521 --> 01:04:17,893
♪ The best I can do
Is to let myself trust ♪
1226
01:04:17,893 --> 01:04:20,896
♪ That you know
Who'll be strong enough ♪
1227
01:04:20,896 --> 01:04:23,535
♪ To carry your heart ♪
1228
01:04:26,570 --> 01:04:29,272
♪ And being your daddy
Comes natural... ♪
1229
01:04:29,272 --> 01:04:30,372
I'm a dad.
1230
01:04:30,372 --> 01:04:32,508
I can't help but to hear
the lyrics on that one.
1231
01:04:32,508 --> 01:04:33,876
He's always got those songs,
1232
01:04:33,876 --> 01:04:36,372
that jerk, he makes us
all a mess and cry.
1233
01:04:36,372 --> 01:04:37,979
♪ It's easy to see ♪
1234
01:04:37,979 --> 01:04:40,481
♪ That you'll get
Where you're going ♪
1235
01:04:40,481 --> 01:04:44,523
♪ But the hard part
Is letting you go ♪
1236
01:04:45,456 --> 01:04:49,658
♪ The hard part
Is letting you go ♪
1237
01:04:49,658 --> 01:04:51,330
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1238
01:04:54,731 --> 01:04:56,231
The good thing
is your daughter's four.
1239
01:04:56,231 --> 01:04:58,434
Mm-hmm.
- Got some time.
1240
01:04:58,434 --> 01:05:00,135
Yeah.
1241
01:05:00,135 --> 01:05:02,307
Yeah, you're right.
I do have some time.
1242
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,616
- Love you so much. I miss you.
- Love you so much.
1243
01:05:13,616 --> 01:05:14,983
- But, hey, guess what?
- What?
1244
01:05:14,983 --> 01:05:16,151
We get done with this record,
1245
01:05:16,151 --> 01:05:18,086
that means we get
to go back on tour
1246
01:05:18,086 --> 01:05:20,088
and play new songs
for everybody
1247
01:05:20,088 --> 01:05:22,357
and go have lots
of fun together, okay?
1248
01:05:22,357 --> 01:05:25,260
- Maybe do "Oh Well" again?
- I'll do "Oh Well" again.
1249
01:05:25,260 --> 01:05:26,528
- That's your favorite?
- And "Anxiety?"
1250
01:05:26,528 --> 01:05:29,634
Yeah, and "Anxiety."
All your favorites.
1251
01:05:31,068 --> 01:05:32,334
I won't throw them out.
1252
01:05:32,334 --> 01:05:34,069
I'll still play them
for you, okay?
1253
01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:35,971
Okay.
When will you throw them out?
1254
01:05:35,971 --> 01:05:37,205
I don't think I ever will.
1255
01:05:37,205 --> 01:05:38,841
I think I'll just
keep playing them for you
1256
01:05:38,841 --> 01:05:40,275
as long as you want
to hear them, okay?
1257
01:05:40,275 --> 01:05:42,077
I want to hear them forever.
1258
01:05:42,077 --> 01:05:44,449
Okay, good. Well,
that's what we'll do.
1259
01:05:47,416 --> 01:05:50,655
- You'll always be with me.
- Yeah, I will.
1260
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:54,122
- Ever.
- Forever.
1261
01:05:54,122 --> 01:05:56,459
Always be your what?
What are we?
1262
01:05:56,459 --> 01:05:58,394
- BFFs.
- BFFs.
1263
01:05:59,594 --> 01:06:01,129
You know, you get
in this headspace,
1264
01:06:01,129 --> 01:06:03,298
I think, when you're an addict,
where you think,
1265
01:06:03,298 --> 01:06:07,202
"I can control my little corner
of the universe."
1266
01:06:07,202 --> 01:06:09,738
And things come in
and remind you that
1267
01:06:09,738 --> 01:06:11,240
that's not really possible.
1268
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,611
So, all you can really control
is your reactions to things.
1269
01:06:25,653 --> 01:06:28,857
Okay,
so you push the red button.
1270
01:06:28,857 --> 01:06:31,196
Is there a red light
on the screen?
1271
01:06:31,862 --> 01:06:33,361
Red dot is on.
1272
01:06:33,361 --> 01:06:35,597
Can you get some audio
on the back of camera, too?
1273
01:06:35,597 --> 01:06:37,099
Is there some movement
when you make--
1274
01:06:37,099 --> 01:06:39,634
Hello. Hey, audio, yeah.
Yeah, that's working.
1275
01:06:39,634 --> 01:06:43,271
Okay, good.
Welcome to pandemic filmmaking.
1276
01:06:43,271 --> 01:06:45,675
Let me just close
this Zoom window here,
1277
01:06:45,675 --> 01:06:47,209
and we'll be ready to go.
1278
01:06:47,209 --> 01:06:49,278
Ready for your first
interview questions?
1279
01:06:49,278 --> 01:06:50,315
Yeah.
1280
01:06:51,315 --> 01:06:53,315
What does quarantine
mean to you?
1281
01:06:53,315 --> 01:06:55,550
It means that you have
to stay home.
1282
01:06:55,550 --> 01:06:57,620
What do you like
to do during the day
1283
01:06:57,620 --> 01:06:59,324
- in quarantine?
- Well...
1284
01:07:02,059 --> 01:07:06,231
sometimes, just sometimes...
1285
01:07:10,067 --> 01:07:13,068
I have the best days ever.
1286
01:07:13,068 --> 01:07:17,006
Momma! Stay back!
It's not a good idea!
1287
01:07:17,006 --> 01:07:19,570
What's not a good idea, huh?
1288
01:07:19,570 --> 01:07:20,843
Here you go. Here you go.
1289
01:07:20,843 --> 01:07:22,177
Do you want
to give them some food?
1290
01:07:22,177 --> 01:07:23,478
That's what they're following
you for.
1291
01:07:23,478 --> 01:07:25,748
- Really? Throw some.
Okay.
1292
01:07:25,748 --> 01:07:26,848
Who's gonna get it?
1293
01:07:26,848 --> 01:07:28,583
You know, I've been
touring since I was 12
1294
01:07:28,583 --> 01:07:30,652
and professionally
since I was 15.
1295
01:07:30,652 --> 01:07:34,023
And this is the first time
in my whole life
1296
01:07:34,023 --> 01:07:37,926
that I haven't played music, like,
1297
01:07:37,926 --> 01:07:40,963
at least once every four
or five days.
1298
01:07:40,963 --> 01:07:43,168
One coming
right behind you, Momma.
1299
01:07:47,302 --> 01:07:49,437
Ow!
1300
01:07:49,437 --> 01:07:52,307
Boy, she got me hard.
One pecked my leg.
1301
01:07:52,307 --> 01:07:55,343
She got my toe big time,
thinking it was a worm.
1302
01:07:55,343 --> 01:07:57,045
Technically,
this is probably
1303
01:07:57,045 --> 01:07:58,279
the most time Jason and Amanda
1304
01:07:58,279 --> 01:08:00,148
have ever actually
spent together.
1305
01:08:00,148 --> 01:08:01,616
They're pecking my toes.
1306
01:08:01,616 --> 01:08:03,685
Amanda very much
has her own career
1307
01:08:03,685 --> 01:08:06,755
outside the 400 Unit.
So there can be weeks at a time
1308
01:08:06,755 --> 01:08:09,057
when they're not together
because they're each
1309
01:08:09,057 --> 01:08:11,793
touring behind their own projects.
1310
01:08:11,793 --> 01:08:14,496
Usually, she goes
somewhere and I go somewhere,
1311
01:08:14,496 --> 01:08:18,600
and then we come back together,
and we compare our experiences.
1312
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,269
Yeah.And now all of a sudden,
1313
01:08:20,269 --> 01:08:22,437
that has stopped.
1314
01:08:22,437 --> 01:08:25,306
The ways that we used
to celebrate being alive
1315
01:08:25,306 --> 01:08:29,211
are not available to us now,
so we celebrate being alive
1316
01:08:29,211 --> 01:08:31,975
by catching fireflies
and watching skunks
1317
01:08:31,975 --> 01:08:35,183
and picking flowers
and weeding the garden.
1318
01:08:35,183 --> 01:08:36,651
This is not Thoreau.
1319
01:08:36,651 --> 01:08:38,353
I'm not saying
that this is the way
1320
01:08:38,353 --> 01:08:40,088
- humans should live.But we don't get to--
1321
01:08:40,088 --> 01:08:41,589
I don't like it.
Yeah.
1322
01:08:41,589 --> 01:08:44,325
I didn't used to be
a stop-and-look-in-the-bird-nest
1323
01:08:44,325 --> 01:08:45,527
- kind of guy.
1324
01:08:45,527 --> 01:08:49,098
- But I'm an egg counter now.
1325
01:08:52,368 --> 01:08:54,235
There they go.
1326
01:08:54,235 --> 01:08:57,139
How do you like
that new voice you got, babies?
1327
01:08:58,406 --> 01:08:59,908
I don't know
if it's just that the lens
1328
01:08:59,908 --> 01:09:01,010
has gotten so small
1329
01:09:01,010 --> 01:09:02,211
'cause we're
in these little bubbles
1330
01:09:02,211 --> 01:09:05,447
of our own stuff,
but I'm wrestling with what,
1331
01:09:05,447 --> 01:09:08,620
like, what are--
what is our purpose now?
1332
01:09:09,686 --> 01:09:11,619
I knew she would do that.
She always does that.
1333
01:09:11,619 --> 01:09:15,323
Did you see her? You missed her?
She flew right out.
1334
01:09:15,323 --> 01:09:18,327
And always get her
at a bad time.
1335
01:09:18,327 --> 01:09:19,862
- Three little eggs.
- I caught it!
1336
01:09:19,862 --> 01:09:22,197
Nurturing things
and distracting myself
1337
01:09:22,197 --> 01:09:25,467
is the best way
that I can sort of, you know,
1338
01:09:25,467 --> 01:09:29,341
try to not think too hard
on all this crap.
1339
01:09:29,941 --> 01:09:30,839
Hello?
1340
01:09:30,839 --> 01:09:32,274
Hey, is that Jason?
1341
01:09:32,274 --> 01:09:33,541
Yeah, this is Jason.
1342
01:09:33,541 --> 01:09:34,910
Hey, Jason.
This is Josh from Guitar.com.
1343
01:09:34,910 --> 01:09:37,478
- How's it going, man?
- How are you doing, Josh?
1344
01:09:37,478 --> 01:09:39,480
Yeah, yeah,
not too bad, man, not too bad.
1345
01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:41,150
- How you doing yourself?
- Doing all right.
1346
01:09:41,150 --> 01:09:43,485
We're all stuck
in the house still,
1347
01:09:43,485 --> 01:09:45,187
but we're healthy.
We're doing okay.
1348
01:09:45,187 --> 01:09:46,621
- Oh, wait. I'm getting
1349
01:09:46,621 --> 01:09:48,656
another call
from London right now.
1350
01:09:48,656 --> 01:09:50,292
- Let me--
Hold on there a second.
Okay.
1351
01:09:50,292 --> 01:09:53,161
Are you with the Sun?
1352
01:09:53,161 --> 01:09:55,763
Uh, no.
I'm with Guitar.com.
1353
01:09:55,763 --> 01:10:00,802
Okay. I've got you listed
for 12:30. Can you call me back?
1354
01:10:00,802 --> 01:10:02,437
Yeah, yeah,
definitely, definitely...
1355
01:10:02,437 --> 01:10:04,505
Fantastic. We'll do that
in an hour and a half.
1356
01:10:04,505 --> 01:10:06,878
Okay. That's good, man.
- Thank you.
1357
01:10:10,347 --> 01:10:13,282
They never ever get
the times right.
1358
01:10:13,282 --> 01:10:14,987
I'm so glad you saw that.
1359
01:10:18,655 --> 01:10:20,322
Since the pandemic started,
1360
01:10:20,322 --> 01:10:25,160
we are constantly evolving
our plans for the record,
1361
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,461
plans for touring,
1362
01:10:26,461 --> 01:10:29,097
trying to keep the ball rolling, basically.
1363
01:10:29,097 --> 01:10:33,535
The record's called Reunions,
and it is done. It is complete.
1364
01:10:33,535 --> 01:10:36,739
This is the beautiful vinyl
that we will be releasing out
1365
01:10:36,739 --> 01:10:37,772
into this mad world.
1366
01:10:37,772 --> 01:10:39,341
It's a strange time
1367
01:10:39,341 --> 01:10:41,276
to be releasing an album
in some ways, isn't it?
1368
01:10:41,276 --> 01:10:43,511
Yeah, it's a strange time
to be doing anything.
1369
01:10:43,511 --> 01:10:45,746
It's a strange time to go
to the grocery store.
1370
01:10:45,746 --> 01:10:48,716
But, you know,
definitely releasing an album
1371
01:10:48,716 --> 01:10:52,720
because you're so used to
that immediate gratification
1372
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,327
of going out
and performing the songs live.
1373
01:10:59,296 --> 01:11:04,399
♪ (MELLOW MUSIC
PLAYING ON GUITAR) ♪
1374
01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:07,669
- Hello. Oh, hello. Hello.
I had the lens cap on.
1375
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:10,873
Hello, lens cap
from the world of tomorrow.
1376
01:11:10,873 --> 01:11:13,878
Welcome to sound check.
- Welcome.
1377
01:11:15,946 --> 01:11:17,349
There's Zach.
1378
01:11:18,650 --> 01:11:20,319
It's dark out here.
1379
01:11:21,119 --> 01:11:23,452
Here's our things.
1380
01:11:23,452 --> 01:11:25,420
You can see the only thing
we've opened so far
1381
01:11:25,420 --> 01:11:27,656
are the Doritos.
And by "we," I mean "me."
1382
01:11:27,656 --> 01:11:29,157
Happy record release day.
1383
01:11:29,157 --> 01:11:30,592
Happy record release day.
1384
01:11:30,592 --> 01:11:33,462
Amanda Shires
being her glam squad.
1385
01:11:33,462 --> 01:11:35,397
Be your own glam squad.
1386
01:11:35,397 --> 01:11:37,298
Tell us how you feel
about release day.
1387
01:11:37,298 --> 01:11:39,001
I feel good about release day.
1388
01:11:39,001 --> 01:11:43,038
It's exciting to release
an album that I feel good about.
1389
01:11:43,038 --> 01:11:46,174
I think it's a good album,
but it's also really weird
1390
01:11:46,174 --> 01:11:49,439
because the pandemic has changed
the way we do everything,
1391
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,479
- including releasing the album.
- And we miss our band today.
1392
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,449
We miss our band so much.
We miss our audience.
1393
01:11:54,449 --> 01:11:56,151
Yeah.
We miss our crew.
1394
01:11:56,151 --> 01:11:57,385
I miss our bus.
1395
01:11:57,385 --> 01:11:58,720
♪ ("IT GETS EASIER"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1396
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,556
♪ Last night I dreamed
That I'd been drinking ♪
1397
01:12:01,556 --> 01:12:05,493
♪ Same dream
I have about twice a week ♪
1398
01:12:05,493 --> 01:12:09,259
♪ I had a glass of wine
I woke up feeling fine ♪
1399
01:12:09,259 --> 01:12:11,867
♪ And that's how I knew
It was a dream ♪
1400
01:12:11,867 --> 01:12:16,875
♪ It gets easier
But it never gets easy ♪
1401
01:12:19,543 --> 01:12:24,344
♪ I can say it's all worth it
But you won't believe me ♪
1402
01:12:27,085 --> 01:12:30,886
♪ And you can't expect her
To follow your lead ♪
1403
01:12:30,886 --> 01:12:33,989
♪ She's fine with her wine
And her weed ♪
1404
01:12:33,989 --> 01:12:38,898
♪ It gets easier
But it never gets easy ♪
1405
01:12:40,230 --> 01:12:42,501
♪ It never gets easy... ♪
1406
01:12:43,901 --> 01:12:46,034
This album was
the biggest thing
1407
01:12:46,034 --> 01:12:47,668
that I've ever done.
1408
01:12:47,668 --> 01:12:51,639
And the process
of making it wasn't easy.
1409
01:12:51,639 --> 01:12:53,774
I wanted to be there
with my band, making really,
1410
01:12:53,774 --> 01:12:56,778
really loud noises and then,
you know, eating dinner
1411
01:12:56,778 --> 01:12:59,747
and drinking some kind
of non-alcoholic cocktail
1412
01:12:59,747 --> 01:13:03,318
and high-fiving each other,
making goofy speeches.
1413
01:13:03,318 --> 01:13:05,657
And that was not available
to me.
1414
01:13:11,928 --> 01:13:17,136
♪ It gets easier
But it never gets easy ♪
1415
01:13:18,202 --> 01:13:20,505
♪ It never gets easy ♪
1416
01:13:25,544 --> 01:13:27,746
♪ It never gets easy ♪
1417
01:13:31,549 --> 01:13:35,250
- ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1418
01:13:35,250 --> 01:13:36,985
Amanda says, "Congratulations.
1419
01:13:36,985 --> 01:13:39,691
I know it's not what you hoped,
but it's awesome."
1420
01:13:40,558 --> 01:13:41,657
And thank you very much.
1421
01:13:41,657 --> 01:13:44,326
Thank you
for understanding that.
1422
01:13:44,326 --> 01:13:46,561
'Cause it is weird as shit.
This is weird.
1423
01:13:46,561 --> 01:13:48,730
If you got little kids,
tell 'em don't say "shit"
1424
01:13:48,730 --> 01:13:50,933
if you want to,
but I'm gonna say it again.
1425
01:13:50,933 --> 01:13:53,463
This is weird as shit,
but it would feel weirder
1426
01:13:53,463 --> 01:13:55,971
to not put a record out
because when I make a record,
1427
01:13:55,971 --> 01:13:59,540
I make it about my life
and how my life is then.
1428
01:13:59,540 --> 01:14:02,577
And my life changes,
so I don't want to wait a year
1429
01:14:02,577 --> 01:14:05,380
and then talk about
what my life was like.
1430
01:14:05,380 --> 01:14:07,816
- Thanks.
Happy record release!
1431
01:14:07,816 --> 01:14:09,818
Yay!
1432
01:14:09,818 --> 01:14:11,753
You know,
it turned out being better
1433
01:14:11,753 --> 01:14:14,021
than I expected,
and it turned out
1434
01:14:14,021 --> 01:14:17,425
being a great experience for me
and for the audience, I think,
1435
01:14:17,425 --> 01:14:19,762
but it wasn't
what I wanted to do.
1436
01:14:19,762 --> 01:14:23,568
And that sort of lack
of celebration...
1437
01:14:24,769 --> 01:14:26,769
was... was deflating for me.
1438
01:14:26,769 --> 01:14:30,976
♪ (UPBEAT DRUMS PLAYING) ♪
1439
01:14:34,979 --> 01:14:36,811
When the record
was due to drop,
1440
01:14:36,811 --> 01:14:39,848
I was still holding on
to hope that before too long,
1441
01:14:39,848 --> 01:14:41,951
we can get out
and do something behind this.
1442
01:14:41,951 --> 01:14:45,988
When I finally came around
to the reality,
1443
01:14:45,988 --> 01:14:49,424
which is, I'm not going anywhere
for a good while,
1444
01:14:49,424 --> 01:14:51,491
depression would kind of set in.
1445
01:14:53,397 --> 01:14:55,264
The guys need
some love.
1446
01:14:55,264 --> 01:14:56,798
They're really proud
of the record,
1447
01:14:56,798 --> 01:15:00,035
and they just are sitting home,
watching from the sidelines.
1448
01:15:00,035 --> 01:15:01,106
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
1449
01:15:03,774 --> 01:15:07,242
It doesn't feel right.
It's unsettling, you know.
1450
01:15:07,242 --> 01:15:11,546
I feel like I should be on tour,
you know? I mean, I really do.
1451
01:15:11,546 --> 01:15:14,016
My body is telling me
I should have wheels...
1452
01:15:14,016 --> 01:15:16,751
...underneath me
right now, you know?
1453
01:15:16,751 --> 01:15:19,889
Like I feel the pull
of the highway, so to speak.
1454
01:15:19,889 --> 01:15:21,826
♪ (ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1455
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,134
The way
I've been dealing with it
1456
01:15:32,134 --> 01:15:35,707
has just been to go
with the flow of things.
1457
01:15:37,175 --> 01:15:39,141
I have no idea
what Derry's doing.
1458
01:15:39,141 --> 01:15:41,177
He looks like
he's building a spaceship.
1459
01:15:50,955 --> 01:15:52,921
The new
400 Unit record, Reunions,
1460
01:15:52,921 --> 01:15:55,124
is the top-selling album
in the country.
1461
01:15:55,124 --> 01:15:57,092
In a different time,
if you had the number-one record
1462
01:15:57,092 --> 01:15:58,761
on the charts,
you wouldn't be so worried
1463
01:15:58,761 --> 01:16:01,329
about the next month.
1464
01:16:01,329 --> 01:16:03,766
Considering the fact
that we're in a pandemic,
1465
01:16:03,766 --> 01:16:06,535
I expected way less
and was prepared
1466
01:16:06,535 --> 01:16:07,869
to be okay with that.
1467
01:16:07,869 --> 01:16:10,972
So this is an incredible
surprise for me.
1468
01:16:10,972 --> 01:16:13,042
In some ways,
it's a bittersweet thing,
1469
01:16:13,042 --> 01:16:15,677
but I will say I never thought
I would play in a band
1470
01:16:15,677 --> 01:16:18,213
that had a number-one anything.
1471
01:16:18,213 --> 01:16:21,083
What I meant to say was,
I always knew I'd play in a band
1472
01:16:21,083 --> 01:16:22,922
that would have
a number-one album.
1473
01:16:25,156 --> 01:16:26,288
One, two, three.
1474
01:16:26,288 --> 01:16:28,223
♪ ("WHAT'VE I DONE TO HELP?"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1475
01:16:28,223 --> 01:16:29,857
♪ What've I done to help? ♪
1476
01:16:29,857 --> 01:16:33,999
♪ What've I done to help?
Somebody saved me ♪
1477
01:16:37,134 --> 01:16:41,403
♪ What've I done to help?
What've I done to help? ♪
1478
01:16:41,403 --> 01:16:43,342
♪ And not myself? ♪
1479
01:16:46,777 --> 01:16:50,679
♪ What've I done to help?
What've I done to help? ♪
1480
01:16:50,679 --> 01:16:53,082
♪ Somebody saved me ♪
1481
01:16:53,082 --> 01:16:55,417
I had a little bit
of a come-apart yesterday.
1482
01:16:55,417 --> 01:17:00,021
Amanda and I were filming
a live performance for CBS,
1483
01:17:00,021 --> 01:17:03,224
and about halfway through
the first song,
1484
01:17:03,224 --> 01:17:08,096
the Amazon delivery guy came up
onto the porch
1485
01:17:08,096 --> 01:17:09,831
- and dropped something off.
1486
01:17:09,831 --> 01:17:13,468
It was sort of like
a breaking point for me.
1487
01:17:13,468 --> 01:17:16,405
You know, I just told Amanda,
"I'm fucking tired of this.
1488
01:17:16,405 --> 01:17:17,839
I'm-- I've had enough.
1489
01:17:17,839 --> 01:17:21,176
I know that
we're in a much better situation
1490
01:17:21,176 --> 01:17:24,079
than most people are,
but I've still just had enough
1491
01:17:24,079 --> 01:17:27,682
of this shit.
It just fucking sucks."
1492
01:17:27,682 --> 01:17:29,785
It's like you sit down
to eat a sandwich,
1493
01:17:29,785 --> 01:17:32,287
and all you have
are two slices of bread.
1494
01:17:32,287 --> 01:17:34,655
You don't have anything
to put in between it.
1495
01:17:34,655 --> 01:17:36,858
You're trying to pretend
it's a sandwich,
1496
01:17:36,858 --> 01:17:39,160
and then halfway through it,
somebody comes up
1497
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,496
and interrupts you.
And you want to say,
1498
01:17:41,496 --> 01:17:44,966
"Goddamn it, I'm already
just eating two slices of bread
1499
01:17:44,966 --> 01:17:46,869
and pretending it's a sandwich.
1500
01:17:46,869 --> 01:17:49,737
Why can't you
just let me do that?"
1501
01:17:49,737 --> 01:17:51,106
He's not aware
when he does it,
1502
01:17:51,106 --> 01:17:54,242
but he'll be like,
"Are you not having any fun?"
1503
01:17:54,242 --> 01:17:57,846
And then he stomps around
and is grumpy, and I was like,
1504
01:17:57,846 --> 01:18:00,849
"Are you having fun, you know?
What are you doing?"
1505
01:18:00,849 --> 01:18:03,151
But then after the recording,
he sat down
1506
01:18:03,151 --> 01:18:06,955
and just started talking
about all of it.
1507
01:18:06,955 --> 01:18:09,124
Kind of just kind of, like, uh,
1508
01:18:09,124 --> 01:18:10,760
when you get
in an over-full bathtub,
1509
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,098
but it just kind of splashes everywhere.
1510
01:18:16,968 --> 01:18:18,166
You know,
when's the next time
1511
01:18:18,166 --> 01:18:21,437
I'm gonna play a regular show
at The Greek
1512
01:18:21,437 --> 01:18:22,971
for thousands of people?
1513
01:18:22,971 --> 01:18:25,206
All crammed in together,
jumping up and down
1514
01:18:25,206 --> 01:18:27,408
and sweating and dancing
and having a good time.
1515
01:18:27,408 --> 01:18:31,116
Is it gonna be five years?
Is it ever gonna happen again?
1516
01:18:34,185 --> 01:18:36,085
If it wasn't for Amanda
and Mercy,
1517
01:18:36,085 --> 01:18:38,988
I would possibly go back
to drinking
1518
01:18:38,988 --> 01:18:40,789
because who gives a fuck?
Who's even watching?
1519
01:18:40,789 --> 01:18:42,057
Who's looking anymore?
1520
01:18:42,057 --> 01:18:43,825
It's not like
I'm gonna mess up a show.
1521
01:18:43,825 --> 01:18:47,095
I can't go play one.
I'm not going to do that
1522
01:18:47,095 --> 01:18:49,731
because I spend a ton of time
with my daughter
1523
01:18:49,731 --> 01:18:52,067
and with my wife,
and I would let them down.
1524
01:18:52,067 --> 01:18:55,703
But if they weren't around here,
I don't know if I would be safe.
1525
01:18:55,703 --> 01:18:58,477
I don't know
if my recovery would be safe.
1526
01:19:00,277 --> 01:19:07,319
♪ ("HURRICANES
AND HAND GRENADES"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1527
01:19:10,415 --> 01:19:12,391
♪ I got a glass of wine ♪
1528
01:19:14,092 --> 01:19:16,095
♪ I got a cigarette ♪
1529
01:19:17,729 --> 01:19:20,432
♪ I should be feeling fine ♪
1530
01:19:21,298 --> 01:19:24,203
♪ But I ain't feeling
Nothing yet ♪
1531
01:19:25,169 --> 01:19:29,237
♪ She's leading
The second line ♪
1532
01:19:29,237 --> 01:19:34,777
♪ Feel like I'm in front of it
And I guess I am tonight ♪
1533
01:19:34,777 --> 01:19:35,911
♪ (SONG FADES) ♪
1534
01:19:35,911 --> 01:19:38,247
Typical day
for the old Jason.
1535
01:19:38,247 --> 01:19:41,153
Wake up, it's probably
already past noon.
1536
01:19:42,386 --> 01:19:43,418
Get in the van.
1537
01:19:43,418 --> 01:19:46,088
There's probably some bottles
of liquor on the floor
1538
01:19:46,088 --> 01:19:48,590
of the van to tide you over,
1539
01:19:48,590 --> 01:19:51,192
unload the gear,
drink some more.
1540
01:19:51,192 --> 01:19:53,562
Play a show
while drinking some more.
1541
01:19:53,562 --> 01:19:57,099
- ♪ (UPBEAT ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1542
01:19:57,099 --> 01:19:59,868
Finish the show,
drink some more,
1543
01:19:59,868 --> 01:20:02,004
and then hit repeat.
1544
01:20:02,004 --> 01:20:03,671
There was usually never a day
1545
01:20:03,671 --> 01:20:06,408
filled with great decisions.
1546
01:20:06,408 --> 01:20:08,978
I mean, the day-to-day
was pretty rough.
1547
01:20:08,978 --> 01:20:10,445
Right before
Jason went sober,
1548
01:20:10,445 --> 01:20:14,217
I was actually looking online
for internet security courses.
1549
01:20:16,018 --> 01:20:20,222
Just as a fallback in case
everything self-destructed.
1550
01:20:20,222 --> 01:20:24,026
Honestly,
I didn't consider getting sober
1551
01:20:24,026 --> 01:20:25,961
until I met Amanda.
1552
01:20:25,961 --> 01:20:27,129
You know, I thought
1553
01:20:27,129 --> 01:20:30,799
she's not gonna...
stick around for this.
1554
01:20:30,799 --> 01:20:32,233
You know, at first,
when you're hanging out,
1555
01:20:32,233 --> 01:20:35,203
you think that a person,
you see 'em off and on,
1556
01:20:35,203 --> 01:20:36,739
they're just having fun
that night
1557
01:20:36,739 --> 01:20:37,906
or for a couple of nights,
1558
01:20:37,906 --> 01:20:39,374
and it just got
progressively worse and worse,
1559
01:20:39,374 --> 01:20:43,482
and, um, you start
noticing patterns, like about...
1560
01:20:44,315 --> 01:20:46,281
he never woke up
in the morning.
1561
01:20:46,281 --> 01:20:50,185
It was always in the afternoon.
But he always woke up drinking.
1562
01:20:50,185 --> 01:20:52,988
And there's a lot of things
that go along with that
1563
01:20:52,988 --> 01:20:55,961
that are not fun
to be around, but...
1564
01:20:56,961 --> 01:20:58,226
One night,
I got real drunk,
1565
01:20:58,226 --> 01:21:00,996
and I said, "I need help
to quit drinking
1566
01:21:00,996 --> 01:21:02,965
and I don't think
I can do it on my own."
1567
01:21:02,965 --> 01:21:06,401
And... Amanda said,
"Well, you know,
1568
01:21:06,401 --> 01:21:09,237
if you're sure about that,
you know,
1569
01:21:09,237 --> 01:21:10,939
I'm gonna have
to do some things,
1570
01:21:10,939 --> 01:21:12,573
and you're not gonna like 'em."
1571
01:21:12,573 --> 01:21:17,145
I really think that somebody
probably would've helped
1572
01:21:17,145 --> 01:21:19,014
or tried to help
if it hadn't been me.
1573
01:21:19,014 --> 01:21:20,315
Or I hope somebody would.
1574
01:21:20,315 --> 01:21:23,451
So it started with a text
from her that it was time,
1575
01:21:23,451 --> 01:21:25,648
and I said, "Well,
I need to hear that from him."
1576
01:21:25,648 --> 01:21:27,723
And he texted me
that "I think it's time
1577
01:21:27,723 --> 01:21:29,825
I do something
about my drinking.
1578
01:21:29,825 --> 01:21:31,260
I want to be present
1579
01:21:31,260 --> 01:21:32,828
while all this good stuff
is happening."
1580
01:21:32,828 --> 01:21:35,064
Not like
in the Drive-By Truckers days.
1581
01:21:35,064 --> 01:21:36,998
So Traci went
to the rehab folks,
1582
01:21:36,998 --> 01:21:40,703
and earliest they could get me
in was Monday.
1583
01:21:40,703 --> 01:21:41,870
The Saturday night,
1584
01:21:41,870 --> 01:21:43,972
we were playing
a private show in Virginia.
1585
01:21:43,972 --> 01:21:46,075
It was his last hurrah.
1586
01:21:46,075 --> 01:21:47,843
And I don't think
I've ever told him this
1587
01:21:47,843 --> 01:21:50,912
that I have the audio
and the DVD of that.
1588
01:21:50,912 --> 01:21:53,048
And it's just something
I've always tucked away
1589
01:21:53,048 --> 01:21:54,282
just in case he ever slipped.
1590
01:21:54,282 --> 01:21:58,253
♪ ("ALABAMA PINES"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1591
01:21:58,253 --> 01:22:02,286
♪ Well, I moved into this room
If you could call it that ♪
1592
01:22:02,286 --> 01:22:03,358
♪ A week ago ♪
1593
01:22:03,358 --> 01:22:06,528
♪ I never do
What I'm supposed to do ♪
1594
01:22:06,528 --> 01:22:10,598
♪ Hardly even know
My name anymore ♪
1595
01:22:10,598 --> 01:22:15,374
♪ When no one calls it out
It kind of vanishes away ♪
1596
01:22:18,042 --> 01:22:20,309
♪ And I can't get
To sleep at night ♪
1597
01:22:20,309 --> 01:22:22,878
♪ The parking lot's
So loud and bright ♪
1598
01:22:22,878 --> 01:22:26,115
♪ The AC hasn't worked
In 20 years ♪
1599
01:22:26,115 --> 01:22:30,119
♪ Probably never made
A single person cold ♪
1600
01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:32,253
♪ But I can't say
The same for me ♪
1601
01:22:32,253 --> 01:22:36,052
♪ I've done it many times ♪
1602
01:22:36,052 --> 01:22:43,235
♪ Somebody take me home
Through those Alabama pines ♪
1603
01:22:44,835 --> 01:22:47,903
They had a bunch of moonshine
from Fredericksburg.
1604
01:22:47,903 --> 01:22:49,839
The moonshine capital
of the world.
1605
01:22:49,839 --> 01:22:51,173
The place where
they've always made
1606
01:22:51,173 --> 01:22:53,041
the best moonshine.
So I drank a ton of that.
1607
01:22:53,041 --> 01:22:56,211
And I think
I took some MDMA at some point.
1608
01:22:56,211 --> 01:22:58,146
And tried to get a tattoo,
1609
01:22:58,146 --> 01:22:59,781
and they wouldn't give me
a tattoo
1610
01:22:59,781 --> 01:23:04,453
'cause I was too fucked up.
Everybody was pissed at me
1611
01:23:04,453 --> 01:23:07,255
'cause I had gotten so drunk
and made such an ass of myself.
1612
01:23:07,255 --> 01:23:09,357
Dude, you're wasted.
1613
01:23:09,357 --> 01:23:11,993
Man, this is a party.
1614
01:23:11,993 --> 01:23:13,061
It was the first time
1615
01:23:13,061 --> 01:23:14,229
I'd ever heard him
drunk on stage.
1616
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:20,069
Hey, Derry deBorja, everybody!
Yeah! Whoo! Duh!
1617
01:23:20,069 --> 01:23:21,469
Play a song!
And then, I guess
1618
01:23:21,469 --> 01:23:23,939
it was really after the show
that things got really,
1619
01:23:23,939 --> 01:23:25,107
really ugly.
1620
01:23:25,107 --> 01:23:27,208
Amanda and I
got into an argument,
1621
01:23:27,208 --> 01:23:31,581
and, you know, I think
I got kind of scary to her.
1622
01:23:31,581 --> 01:23:32,581
That was sort of a, like,
1623
01:23:32,581 --> 01:23:35,817
kind of not the best night
for him. So...
1624
01:23:35,817 --> 01:23:38,987
I don't think
she was going to stay with me
1625
01:23:38,987 --> 01:23:41,056
at that point. I think
she was like, "Okay,
1626
01:23:41,056 --> 01:23:42,557
I want you to get sober.
I'll help you.
1627
01:23:42,557 --> 01:23:45,294
I'll be your friend.
But I don't think
1628
01:23:45,294 --> 01:23:48,964
I can be in a relationship
with you, you know?"
1629
01:23:48,964 --> 01:23:51,199
So I thought my relationship
was done.
1630
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:54,406
So when I was in rehab,
I just wrote letters to her,
1631
01:23:54,972 --> 01:23:56,005
um,
1632
01:23:56,005 --> 01:23:59,307
the whole time, and it worked.
I can write a letter.
1633
01:23:59,307 --> 01:24:01,676
♪ ("COVER ME UP" BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING) ♪
1634
01:24:01,676 --> 01:24:06,715
♪ A heart on the run
Keeps a hand on a gun ♪
1635
01:24:06,715 --> 01:24:09,221
♪ It can't trust anyone ♪
1636
01:24:12,823 --> 01:24:17,760
♪ I was so sure
What I needed was more ♪
1637
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,699
♪ Tried to shoot out the sun ♪
1638
01:24:23,567 --> 01:24:28,871
♪ The days when we raged
We flew off the page ♪
1639
01:24:28,871 --> 01:24:31,610
♪ Such damage was done ♪
1640
01:24:34,712 --> 01:24:39,281
♪ But I made it through
'Cause somebody knew ♪
1641
01:24:39,281 --> 01:24:43,418
♪ I was meant for someone... ♪
1642
01:24:43,418 --> 01:24:46,021
That was fucked up
in a lot of different ways,
1643
01:24:46,021 --> 01:24:48,023
but I was lucky enough
to realize
1644
01:24:48,023 --> 01:24:51,559
that if I can just
quit drinking,
1645
01:24:51,559 --> 01:24:54,533
then I might have everything
I ever wanted.
1646
01:24:55,833 --> 01:24:57,533
It's not hard
to commit to somebody,
1647
01:24:57,533 --> 01:24:58,599
I don't think.
1648
01:24:58,599 --> 01:25:02,574
I mean... if you're in love
with him.
1649
01:25:04,809 --> 01:25:07,109
He proposed, and I said yes.
1650
01:25:07,109 --> 01:25:09,111
But I wanted him to be sober
at least a year
1651
01:25:09,111 --> 01:25:10,412
before I continued on.
1652
01:25:10,412 --> 01:25:12,847
And it's no guarantee. Like,
I can trust him,
1653
01:25:12,847 --> 01:25:16,755
but I can't trust
the addiction at all, you know?
1654
01:25:19,723 --> 01:25:25,193
♪ Cover me up
And know you're enough ♪
1655
01:25:25,193 --> 01:25:27,699
♪ To use me for good... ♪
1656
01:25:31,335 --> 01:25:33,335
There's a couple of parts
in "Cover Me Up"
1657
01:25:33,335 --> 01:25:36,608
I still don't like to hear,
but I listen to it anyway.
1658
01:25:38,476 --> 01:25:41,976
Now he knows that I liked him
even at his worst.
1659
01:25:41,976 --> 01:25:47,816
♪ Put your faith to the test
When I tore off your dress ♪
1660
01:25:47,816 --> 01:25:51,290
♪ In Richmond on high ♪
1661
01:25:53,825 --> 01:25:56,225
♪ But I sobered up ♪
1662
01:25:56,225 --> 01:26:02,464
♪ I swore off that stuff
Forever this time... ♪
1663
01:26:02,464 --> 01:26:07,536
We had a moment recently
where we came to the conclusion,
1664
01:26:07,536 --> 01:26:10,472
through having a couple
of really hard conversations,
1665
01:26:10,472 --> 01:26:12,975
that part of our problems
still stem
1666
01:26:12,975 --> 01:26:16,878
from unresolved issues
from when we first got together.
1667
01:26:16,878 --> 01:26:20,282
And things that happened
when I was still drinking.
1668
01:26:20,282 --> 01:26:23,719
I didn't understand
that all those years ago,
1669
01:26:23,719 --> 01:26:26,221
there were times
when she felt trapped
1670
01:26:26,221 --> 01:26:28,556
and she felt in danger.
1671
01:26:28,556 --> 01:26:32,260
♪ So, girl
Hang your dress up to dry ♪
1672
01:26:32,260 --> 01:26:35,530
♪ We ain't leaving
This room... ♪
1673
01:26:35,530 --> 01:26:37,199
I remember my perspective.
1674
01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:39,467
I knew that I wasn't gonna
hurt anybody.
1675
01:26:39,467 --> 01:26:42,307
But my perspective
wasn't the only one.
1676
01:26:42,940 --> 01:26:44,305
In the last few months,
1677
01:26:44,305 --> 01:26:45,507
I've been doing
a lot of thinking
1678
01:26:45,507 --> 01:26:47,042
about what did
the room look like
1679
01:26:47,042 --> 01:26:48,477
from the other corners,
you know?
1680
01:26:48,477 --> 01:26:50,746
What did it look like
from the people
1681
01:26:50,746 --> 01:26:52,014
who were afraid of me
1682
01:26:52,014 --> 01:26:54,950
and didn't know
that ultimately,
1683
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:57,656
uh, it was all gonna be okay?
1684
01:27:00,958 --> 01:27:03,325
♪ Cover me up ♪
1685
01:27:03,325 --> 01:27:08,600
♪ And know you're enough
To use me for good... ♪
1686
01:27:10,668 --> 01:27:14,802
I had the realization
of what I had put on her.
1687
01:27:14,802 --> 01:27:17,773
You know, she was a catalyst
for me getting sober
1688
01:27:17,773 --> 01:27:19,274
and cleaning my life up.
1689
01:27:19,274 --> 01:27:22,378
I had taken all of this burden
of me
1690
01:27:22,378 --> 01:27:24,579
becoming what I am now
1691
01:27:24,579 --> 01:27:26,714
and I had put it
on her shoulders.
1692
01:27:26,714 --> 01:27:30,686
And then, what started off
as a little tiny relationship
1693
01:27:30,686 --> 01:27:33,188
turned into the record Southeastern,
1694
01:27:33,188 --> 01:27:36,491
and it was not
just ours anymore.
1695
01:27:36,491 --> 01:27:39,761
♪ Girl, leave your boots
By the bed ♪
1696
01:27:39,761 --> 01:27:43,732
♪ We ain't leaving
This room... ♪
1697
01:27:43,732 --> 01:27:45,667
There were people
hearing these songs,
1698
01:27:45,667 --> 01:27:47,602
and when they would hear
"Cover Me Up,"
1699
01:27:47,602 --> 01:27:49,404
she would go back
to the place
1700
01:27:49,404 --> 01:27:51,240
where she was afraid of me.
1701
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,475
And nobody
would understand that.
1702
01:27:53,475 --> 01:27:54,942
And then the part
that hurt her the worst
1703
01:27:54,942 --> 01:27:57,845
is that I didn't understand it
because I wasn't willing
1704
01:27:57,845 --> 01:28:00,448
to go back and actually look
at what really happened.
1705
01:28:00,448 --> 01:28:02,150
It's a lot to feel like
you're the only person
1706
01:28:02,150 --> 01:28:04,452
- in the world that...
- That knows...
1707
01:28:04,452 --> 01:28:06,254
- Yeah.
- ...what really happened.
1708
01:28:06,254 --> 01:28:08,791
And I should've known
the whole time.
1709
01:28:08,791 --> 01:28:11,360
♪ So cover me up ♪
1710
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:16,936
♪ And know you're enough
To use me for good ♪
1711
01:28:20,337 --> 01:28:22,637
♪ Cover me up ♪
1712
01:28:22,637 --> 01:28:28,347
♪ And know you're enough
To use me for good ♪
1713
01:28:29,947 --> 01:28:31,179
♪ (SONG FADES) ♪
1714
01:28:31,179 --> 01:28:35,650
When Jason went sober,
he came out of that experience,
1715
01:28:35,650 --> 01:28:42,719
I think, a more caring, kinder,
more empathetic individual.
1716
01:28:43,155 --> 01:28:44,993
I fought
against my own ability
1717
01:28:44,993 --> 01:28:48,496
to get better.
And when I stopped doing that,
1718
01:28:48,496 --> 01:28:50,665
all of a sudden, I was like,
"Okay, you're not so bad.
1719
01:28:50,665 --> 01:28:52,633
You're kind of an asshole,
but we'll figure that out."
1720
01:28:52,633 --> 01:28:55,771
And then we sat there together,
me and myself,
1721
01:28:55,771 --> 01:28:59,774
and wrote an album
that changed my life.
1722
01:28:59,774 --> 01:29:05,817
♪ ("MAYBE IT'S TIME"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1723
01:29:16,027 --> 01:29:19,864
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1724
01:29:22,499 --> 01:29:26,005
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1725
01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:31,273
♪ It takes a lot
To change a man ♪
1726
01:29:31,273 --> 01:29:34,643
♪ Hell, it takes a lot to try ♪
1727
01:29:34,643 --> 01:29:38,483
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1728
01:29:40,884 --> 01:29:44,985
♪ Nobody knows
What waits for the dead... ♪
1729
01:29:44,985 --> 01:29:47,689
This pandemic has been
a challenge for somebody
1730
01:29:47,689 --> 01:29:50,058
who's used to being in control.
1731
01:29:50,058 --> 01:29:52,989
It's really saved my ass
to be able to sit down
1732
01:29:52,989 --> 01:29:55,597
and play the guitar for hours.
1733
01:29:55,597 --> 01:29:57,460
I've kind of reverted back
to when I was
1734
01:29:57,460 --> 01:30:01,136
an unhip high schooler,
and I just spent all my time
1735
01:30:01,136 --> 01:30:03,934
in my room playing guitar
because that's the only thing
1736
01:30:03,934 --> 01:30:05,307
that really made me happy.
1737
01:30:05,307 --> 01:30:08,210
♪ And I'm glad
I can't go back ♪
1738
01:30:08,210 --> 01:30:10,182
♪ To where I came from ♪
1739
01:30:11,948 --> 01:30:16,084
♪ I'm glad those days
Are gone, gone for good... ♪
1740
01:30:16,084 --> 01:30:17,456
Thank you.
1741
01:30:18,489 --> 01:30:21,823
♪ But if I could take spirits
From my past ♪
1742
01:30:21,823 --> 01:30:25,597
♪ And bring them here
You know I would ♪
1743
01:30:26,998 --> 01:30:28,800
♪ You know I would ♪
1744
01:30:30,734 --> 01:30:34,606
♪ But nobody speaks
To God these days ♪
1745
01:30:37,141 --> 01:30:39,341
♪ Nobody speaks
To God these days... ♪
1746
01:30:39,341 --> 01:30:43,339
The chickens have lain
their eggs beneath the coop.
1747
01:30:43,339 --> 01:30:46,147
♪ I'd like to think
He's looking down ♪
1748
01:30:46,147 --> 01:30:49,118
♪ And laughing at our ways ♪
1749
01:30:49,118 --> 01:30:53,188
♪ But nobody speaks
To God these days... ♪
1750
01:30:53,188 --> 01:30:55,190
Mommy, I got you a present.
1751
01:30:55,190 --> 01:30:59,127
♪ And when I was a child
They tried to fool me... ♪
1752
01:30:59,127 --> 01:31:00,460
Thank you.
1753
01:31:01,565 --> 01:31:04,099
♪ Said the worldly man
Was doomed ♪
1754
01:31:04,099 --> 01:31:05,735
♪ And hell was real... ♪
1755
01:31:05,735 --> 01:31:08,303
Some days
I found beautiful dead moths.
1756
01:31:08,303 --> 01:31:10,105
♪ Well, I've seen hell
In Reno ♪
1757
01:31:10,105 --> 01:31:15,847
♪ And this world's just
One big old Catherine wheel ♪
1758
01:31:16,815 --> 01:31:18,747
♪ Spinning still... ♪
1759
01:31:18,747 --> 01:31:20,582
He's made a picnic.
1760
01:31:20,582 --> 01:31:24,484
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1761
01:31:27,058 --> 01:31:30,459
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die... ♪
1762
01:31:30,459 --> 01:31:33,494
Oh, some garden gloves.
1763
01:31:33,494 --> 01:31:35,964
♪ It takes a lot
To change your plans ♪
1764
01:31:35,964 --> 01:31:39,534
♪ And a train
To change your mind ♪
1765
01:31:39,534 --> 01:31:43,075
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die... ♪
1766
01:31:44,008 --> 01:31:45,573
Look at that stinky bastard.
1767
01:31:45,573 --> 01:31:47,742
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die... ♪
1768
01:31:47,742 --> 01:31:50,815
Quarantine, day 194.
1769
01:31:51,882 --> 01:31:55,720
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1770
01:31:56,453 --> 01:31:58,220
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1771
01:31:58,220 --> 01:31:59,989
I smell alcohol.
1772
01:31:59,989 --> 01:32:02,290
That's because
we just put some in your ears.
1773
01:32:02,290 --> 01:32:04,459
And I can smell with my ears?
1774
01:32:04,459 --> 01:32:05,894
- You can use your ears
1775
01:32:05,894 --> 01:32:08,063
- to help you smell?
- I think your ears...
1776
01:32:08,063 --> 01:32:10,198
That's my daughter.
1777
01:32:10,198 --> 01:32:12,768
Don't put your fingers
in your ears. Don't do that.
1778
01:32:12,768 --> 01:32:15,037
I like to smell the alcohol.
1779
01:32:15,037 --> 01:32:16,972
That's my child, there.
1780
01:32:16,972 --> 01:32:19,274
"Well, do you love me
the most with my big,
1781
01:32:19,274 --> 01:32:22,238
big eyes that will watch you
grow wise, wise, wise?"
1782
01:32:22,238 --> 01:32:24,113
- There's three--
-"It's me, Ollie.
1783
01:32:24,113 --> 01:32:25,581
Do you love me the most?"
1784
01:32:25,581 --> 01:32:27,883
- Do you?
- There's--
1785
01:32:27,883 --> 01:32:30,185
- There's three--
- Do you?
Do you love me the most?
1786
01:32:30,185 --> 01:32:31,586
- Do you?
- Stop--
1787
01:32:31,586 --> 01:32:36,859
- Hoo. Hoo.
- Stop interrupting me.
1788
01:32:36,859 --> 01:32:38,961
- What?
- Stop interrupting me.
1789
01:32:38,961 --> 01:32:40,128
- Who?
- You.
1790
01:32:40,128 --> 01:32:45,366
- Who-oo?
- You.
1791
01:32:45,366 --> 01:32:47,102
Hey, Mercy, knock, knock?
1792
01:32:47,102 --> 01:32:49,104
- Who's there?
Interrupting mom.
1793
01:32:49,104 --> 01:32:50,639
- Interrupting mom--
- Hello!
1794
01:32:54,342 --> 01:32:57,780
In quarantine times,
there are breakthrough couples
1795
01:32:57,780 --> 01:33:00,048
and breakup couples,
I've decided.
1796
01:33:00,048 --> 01:33:03,918
A lot of people
we know are getting divorced.
1797
01:33:03,918 --> 01:33:09,385
And I understand that totally.
But I think for me and Amanda,
1798
01:33:09,385 --> 01:33:11,693
I think
we're having breakthroughs.
1799
01:33:11,693 --> 01:33:14,029
I feel like we're getting
to know each other better,
1800
01:33:14,029 --> 01:33:18,466
I think. And, like, today,
everything's great, you know?
1801
01:33:18,466 --> 01:33:22,872
Yesterday, everything was great.
We'll see what happens tomorrow.
1802
01:33:22,872 --> 01:33:24,273
♪ ("RIVER" BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING) ♪
1803
01:33:24,273 --> 01:33:28,876
♪ The river is my savior
'Cause she used to be a cloud ♪
1804
01:33:28,876 --> 01:33:34,083
♪ She's happy just to lay there
When she used to be so proud ♪
1805
01:33:34,083 --> 01:33:39,053
♪ And even when she dries up
A thousand years from now ♪
1806
01:33:39,053 --> 01:33:44,696
♪ I'll lay myself beside her
And call her name out loud... ♪
1807
01:33:46,330 --> 01:33:50,298
So I see COVID-19
as something that is forcing me
1808
01:33:50,298 --> 01:33:52,433
to adapt and to grow.
1809
01:33:52,433 --> 01:33:55,905
I'm bound and determined
to make a positive out of this.
1810
01:33:55,905 --> 01:33:57,272
And the ultimate positive
1811
01:33:57,272 --> 01:33:59,941
is to let it connect me
with other people more.
1812
01:33:59,941 --> 01:34:04,812
♪ But now I'm tired
And a little bit confused ♪
1813
01:34:04,812 --> 01:34:10,152
♪ Regarding what I meant to do
And what I did... ♪
1814
01:34:10,152 --> 01:34:12,420
To be back in the room
with everybody else
1815
01:34:12,420 --> 01:34:15,656
will make my heart explode.
So I know I'll be in tears.
1816
01:34:15,656 --> 01:34:17,826
I-- I feel like
we will all be in tears
1817
01:34:17,826 --> 01:34:21,429
'cause you don't feel whole
right now.
1818
01:34:21,429 --> 01:34:23,899
I'd be happy
just to play on the back porch
1819
01:34:23,899 --> 01:34:25,967
for the birds if it was me
1820
01:34:25,967 --> 01:34:27,969
and my whole band
playing together
1821
01:34:27,969 --> 01:34:29,942
at the same time.
I'd be thrilled.
1822
01:34:32,976 --> 01:34:37,840
♪ The river is my savior
She's running to the sea ♪
1823
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:42,851
♪ And to reach her destination
Is to simply cease to be ♪
1824
01:34:42,851 --> 01:34:44,987
♪ And running
'Til you're nothing ♪
1825
01:34:44,987 --> 01:34:47,883
♪ Sounds a lot like being free ♪
1826
01:34:47,883 --> 01:34:53,765
♪ So I'll lay myself inside her
And I'll let her carry me... ♪
1827
01:34:58,236 --> 01:35:01,570
I mean, there's this moment
right before we go on stage
1828
01:35:01,570 --> 01:35:03,739
where we're all gathered
in the wing,
1829
01:35:03,739 --> 01:35:05,640
Jason gives a thumbs up
to everybody
1830
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,076
with a raised eyebrow
to make sure,
1831
01:35:08,076 --> 01:35:10,379
you know, "Everybody good?
Everybody good?"
1832
01:35:10,379 --> 01:35:13,381
And I miss that.
1833
01:35:13,381 --> 01:35:14,917
I can't wait to do that again.
1834
01:35:14,917 --> 01:35:17,286
I can't wait
to be in that huddle.
1835
01:35:17,286 --> 01:35:18,457
See y'all tomorrow.
1836
01:35:22,126 --> 01:35:24,196
- ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1837
01:35:24,762 --> 01:35:25,928
There's only one story.
1838
01:35:25,928 --> 01:35:28,130
They say three in your
creative writing classes.
1839
01:35:28,130 --> 01:35:30,493
But there's only one really,
and that's,
1840
01:35:30,493 --> 01:35:32,901
"Will you listen
to what my life is like?
1841
01:35:32,901 --> 01:35:35,304
You know? And let's compare."
1842
01:35:35,304 --> 01:35:39,478
♪ ("IF WE WERE VAMPIRES"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1843
01:35:54,491 --> 01:35:59,655
♪ It's not the long flowing
Dress that you're in ♪
1844
01:35:59,655 --> 01:36:04,499
♪ Or the light coming
Off of your skin ♪
1845
01:36:04,499 --> 01:36:09,871
♪ The fragile heart
You protected for so long ♪
1846
01:36:09,871 --> 01:36:14,409
♪ Or the mercy in your sense
Of right and wrong ♪
1847
01:36:14,409 --> 01:36:19,381
♪ It's not your hands
Searching slow in the dark ♪
1848
01:36:19,381 --> 01:36:24,219
♪ Or your nails
Leaving love's watermark ♪
1849
01:36:24,219 --> 01:36:29,458
♪ It's not the way
You talk me off the roof ♪
1850
01:36:29,458 --> 01:36:34,830
♪ Your questions
Like directions to the truth ♪
1851
01:36:34,830 --> 01:36:38,537
♪ It's knowing
That this can't go on forever ♪
1852
01:36:39,904 --> 01:36:41,369
♪ Likely one of us ♪
1853
01:36:41,369 --> 01:36:44,873
♪ Will have
To spend some days alone ♪
1854
01:36:44,873 --> 01:36:48,276
♪ Maybe we'll get
Forty years together ♪
1855
01:36:48,276 --> 01:36:54,149
♪ But one day I'll be gone
Or one day you'll be gone ♪
1856
01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:59,021
♪ If we were vampires
And death was a joke ♪
1857
01:36:59,021 --> 01:37:04,492
♪ We'd go out
On the sidewalk and smoke ♪
1858
01:37:04,492 --> 01:37:09,364
♪ And laugh at all the lovers
And their plans ♪
1859
01:37:09,364 --> 01:37:14,036
♪ I wouldn't feel the need
To hold your hand ♪
1860
01:37:14,036 --> 01:37:19,041
♪ Maybe time running out
Is a gift ♪
1861
01:37:19,041 --> 01:37:24,446
♪ I'll work hard
'Til the end of my shift ♪
1862
01:37:24,446 --> 01:37:29,551
♪ And give you
Every second I can find ♪
1863
01:37:29,551 --> 01:37:34,489
♪ And hope it isn't me
Who's left behind ♪
1864
01:37:34,489 --> 01:37:38,363
♪ It's knowing
That this can't go on forever ♪
1865
01:37:39,831 --> 01:37:41,296
♪ Likely one of us ♪
1866
01:37:41,296 --> 01:37:44,833
♪ Will have to spend
Some days alone ♪
1867
01:37:44,833 --> 01:37:48,236
♪ Maybe we'll get
Forty years together ♪
1868
01:37:48,236 --> 01:37:53,913
♪ But one day I'll be gone
One day you'll be gone ♪
1869
01:38:01,185 --> 01:38:03,222
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
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