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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:39,996 --> 00:00:44,218 In the '60s, it was incredibly liberating to have 4 00:00:44,348 --> 00:00:46,394 the pill at your disposal. 5 00:00:46,524 --> 00:00:48,396 It changed so much. 6 00:00:51,007 --> 00:00:53,923 It allowed women to take in their own hands control 7 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:55,838 of their fertility. 8 00:00:55,968 --> 00:00:59,363 It literally has revolutionized the ability of women to work. 9 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:02,062 It completely changed women's ability 10 00:01:02,192 --> 00:01:04,325 to pursue whatever their dreams were. 11 00:01:04,455 --> 00:01:05,152 The pill. 12 00:01:05,282 --> 00:01:06,588 The pill. 13 00:01:06,718 --> 00:01:08,111 Don't forget to take your pill. 14 00:01:08,242 --> 00:01:09,286 I won't. 15 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:17,120 The pill is elevated as this great liberator that ushered 16 00:01:17,251 --> 00:01:19,470 in the sexual revolution. 17 00:01:19,601 --> 00:01:25,650 Now women can have sex without being found out that 18 00:01:25,781 --> 00:01:28,871 they're sexually active because they can control whether they 19 00:01:29,001 --> 00:01:31,743 are ovulating or not. 20 00:01:31,874 --> 00:01:34,181 It was revolutionary at the time. 21 00:01:34,311 --> 00:01:37,314 You couldn't just go to your doctor and get a diaphragm. 22 00:01:37,445 --> 00:01:39,055 You have to be married. 23 00:01:39,186 --> 00:01:44,278 And women couldn't negotiate power in their relationships. 24 00:01:44,408 --> 00:01:46,802 But today is a different context. 25 00:01:46,932 --> 00:01:50,414 Today an estimated 12 million American women use the pill. 26 00:01:50,545 --> 00:01:52,764 And about 80% will use it at some point 27 00:01:52,895 --> 00:01:54,549 in their reproductive lives. 28 00:01:54,679 --> 00:01:57,813 The pill was FDA approved to be used for a short time, 29 00:01:57,943 --> 00:02:01,338 now we have people taking the pill for decades. 30 00:02:01,469 --> 00:02:05,081 We've known since the '60s that it's having effects 31 00:02:05,212 --> 00:02:08,650 on our metabolism, on our bone density, on our mood, 32 00:02:08,780 --> 00:02:10,478 and on our libido. 33 00:02:10,608 --> 00:02:13,307 I can't believe that we don't have better options for birth 34 00:02:13,437 --> 00:02:14,177 control. 35 00:02:14,308 --> 00:02:15,613 They all drive me crazy. 36 00:02:15,744 --> 00:02:17,267 And it has like three pages of side effects. 37 00:02:17,398 --> 00:02:19,139 I can't believe that they release a product with three 38 00:02:19,269 --> 00:02:20,096 pages of side effects. 39 00:02:20,227 --> 00:02:20,966 I'm like, go back. 40 00:02:21,097 --> 00:02:22,707 It's not ready. 41 00:02:22,838 --> 00:02:24,361 I've tried five different kinds of birth control pills. 42 00:02:24,492 --> 00:02:26,624 Every single one of them has made me suicidal. 43 00:02:26,755 --> 00:02:29,192 If I didn't understand what was going on with my body 44 00:02:29,323 --> 00:02:31,586 and I kept taking it, who knows what would have happened. 45 00:02:31,716 --> 00:02:34,328 The revolution that started with a simple pill has become 46 00:02:34,458 --> 00:02:36,068 a multibillion-dollar business. 47 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:40,769 We're looking to medical technology for liberation. 48 00:02:40,899 --> 00:02:44,425 And that means whatever contraceptive 49 00:02:44,555 --> 00:02:47,776 comes on the market, we're going to embrace it and defend it. 50 00:02:47,906 --> 00:02:49,560 Birth control is here to stay. 51 00:02:49,691 --> 00:02:51,867 Ho, ho, hey, hey-- 52 00:02:51,997 --> 00:02:54,304 It's really difficult to have a conversation about 53 00:02:54,435 --> 00:02:57,612 the downsides of hormonal contraception when it's under 54 00:02:57,742 --> 00:02:59,353 attack. 55 00:02:59,483 --> 00:03:02,182 Birth control, it's so inextricably tied 56 00:03:02,312 --> 00:03:04,749 into our freedom as women. 57 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,534 But at what cost? 58 00:03:06,664 --> 00:03:10,059 Only half the story is being told. 59 00:04:00,849 --> 00:04:02,633 So are you currently on birth control pills? 60 00:04:02,764 --> 00:04:03,852 Yes. 61 00:04:03,982 --> 00:04:05,680 And which ones have you tried? 62 00:04:05,810 --> 00:04:11,729 I've tried the pill and the shot. 63 00:04:11,860 --> 00:04:14,079 But do you remember what brand you used for the pill? 64 00:04:14,210 --> 00:04:15,255 No. 65 00:04:15,385 --> 00:04:16,647 I don't even know what I'm on now. 66 00:04:16,778 --> 00:04:19,302 I was put on it by my doc, my physician 67 00:04:19,433 --> 00:04:23,350 because of my irregularity in my periods and my cycle. 68 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,830 Did he explain to you how the pill works. 69 00:04:25,961 --> 00:04:27,615 No. 70 00:04:27,745 --> 00:04:29,617 I mean, it was basically just take the pill until you get 71 00:04:29,747 --> 00:04:31,575 to the week where you have the placebo. 72 00:04:31,706 --> 00:04:33,490 And you can take them if you want or you don't. 73 00:04:33,621 --> 00:04:35,231 And that's just when you're menstruating. 74 00:04:35,362 --> 00:04:37,929 And that was all the information I ever really got about it. 75 00:04:38,060 --> 00:04:39,496 It was like, it's a given. 76 00:04:39,627 --> 00:04:43,195 It's like you take it because that's what you do. 77 00:05:02,780 --> 00:05:07,045 We've started this organization because really we 78 00:05:07,176 --> 00:05:09,831 thought the menstrual cycle was a vital sign because of how 79 00:05:09,961 --> 00:05:12,442 much it can tell you about your body's health. 80 00:05:12,573 --> 00:05:15,532 I didn't have conversations like this when I was growing up. 81 00:05:15,663 --> 00:05:18,492 Nobody told me like anything that was going to be happening. 82 00:05:18,622 --> 00:05:20,145 It was quite a surprise. 83 00:05:20,276 --> 00:05:22,409 And I think a lot of people had that experience. 84 00:05:26,543 --> 00:05:29,241 We have this beautiful, intrinsic, 85 00:05:29,372 --> 00:05:32,767 innate blueprint that is synced to nature. 86 00:05:32,897 --> 00:05:34,508 It's synced to circadian rhythms. 87 00:05:34,638 --> 00:05:37,293 It starts in our brain, in our hypothalamus, 88 00:05:37,424 --> 00:05:40,252 runs through our pituitary, goes through our ovaries. 89 00:05:40,383 --> 00:05:41,515 And it's cyclic. 90 00:05:41,645 --> 00:05:44,692 It's not a steady state. 91 00:05:44,822 --> 00:05:47,782 Ideally, when our hormones are in their natural flow, 92 00:05:47,912 --> 00:05:51,046 those hormones change our emotional milieu. 93 00:05:51,176 --> 00:05:52,569 They change how we feel. 94 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:55,442 They change our experience of the world. 95 00:05:55,572 --> 00:05:58,619 In a normal menstrual cycle, there are brain hormones 96 00:05:58,749 --> 00:06:00,316 communicating to the ovaries. 97 00:06:00,447 --> 00:06:03,580 And that's how we orchestrate ovulation and this really 98 00:06:03,711 --> 00:06:06,931 symphony of your menstrual cycle. 99 00:06:07,062 --> 00:06:08,585 But on hormonal birth control, you 100 00:06:08,716 --> 00:06:10,805 put the entire system on mute. 101 00:06:10,935 --> 00:06:12,676 You're blocking the text messages. 102 00:06:12,807 --> 00:06:14,199 So there's some dude texting you. 103 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:16,071 You don't want to hear from him and you block it. 104 00:06:16,201 --> 00:06:19,640 So your ovaries just get shut down. 105 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:22,773 You're switching off your own ovaries and you're replacing 106 00:06:22,904 --> 00:06:25,602 them with these two chemicals. 107 00:06:25,733 --> 00:06:29,476 What do these hormonal contraceptives contain? 108 00:06:29,606 --> 00:06:34,263 They contain synthetic estrogen and/or synthetic progestin. 109 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:36,352 It works by suppressing ovulation. 110 00:06:36,483 --> 00:06:38,354 That way an egg isn't released. 111 00:06:38,485 --> 00:06:40,791 Although a lot of women are told that it's regulating 112 00:06:40,922 --> 00:06:44,186 your cycle or it's like your body thinks it's pregnant, 113 00:06:44,316 --> 00:06:47,537 none of those things are actually what's going on. 114 00:06:47,668 --> 00:06:49,191 You're not getting a period when you're 115 00:06:49,321 --> 00:06:50,627 taking hormonal birth control. 116 00:06:50,758 --> 00:06:52,324 It's a withdrawal bleed. 117 00:06:52,455 --> 00:06:55,110 Typically in that pill pack, it will have three weeks 118 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,768 of synthetic hormones and then one week or so of bleeding. 119 00:07:00,898 --> 00:07:05,381 And people call that time a withdrawal bleed. 120 00:07:05,512 --> 00:07:07,775 They don't consider it to be like a period 121 00:07:07,905 --> 00:07:10,691 because when you stop taking the synthetic hormone, 122 00:07:10,821 --> 00:07:13,824 it acts like that drop in hormones 123 00:07:13,955 --> 00:07:17,654 that you see with the menstruation. 124 00:07:17,785 --> 00:07:20,875 This idea that we've been sold by pharmaceutical 125 00:07:21,005 --> 00:07:26,010 companies that you should just take the pill and get rid 126 00:07:26,141 --> 00:07:29,666 of your hormones is really incomplete and potentially 127 00:07:29,797 --> 00:07:30,754 dangerous. 128 00:07:30,885 --> 00:07:31,451 Did you know? 129 00:07:31,581 --> 00:07:33,148 Did you know? 130 00:07:33,278 --> 00:07:34,671 Did you know that when you're on a birth control pill, 131 00:07:34,802 --> 00:07:36,717 there is no medical need to have a monthly period? 132 00:07:36,847 --> 00:07:38,327 Like other birth control pills-- 133 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:40,982 They're marketed as something called lifestyle drugs, 134 00:07:41,112 --> 00:07:44,289 a really powerful hormonal synthetic cocktail. 135 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:47,075 It sounds really nice and fun, like it's going to fix my acne 136 00:07:47,205 --> 00:07:48,685 or it's going to fix my period or it's 137 00:07:48,816 --> 00:07:50,470 going to regulate my cycle. 138 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,386 And what we didn't realize is that we were turning off 139 00:07:54,517 --> 00:07:57,781 this really important part of our bodily function that 140 00:07:57,912 --> 00:07:59,740 was happening every month, which is ovulation. 141 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:06,964 The prevailing narrative is that we don't need to ovulate 142 00:08:07,095 --> 00:08:11,621 unless we want to make a baby, which is crazy 143 00:08:11,752 --> 00:08:15,451 because ovulation, regular ovulation, 144 00:08:15,582 --> 00:08:18,933 which means having a regular, natural menstrual cycle, 145 00:08:19,063 --> 00:08:22,458 is how we make our hormones estrogen and progesterone, 146 00:08:22,589 --> 00:08:24,199 which have many benefits. 147 00:08:24,329 --> 00:08:28,899 To say that we don't need to ovulate except 148 00:08:29,030 --> 00:08:31,772 to make a baby would be like saying to men, 149 00:08:31,902 --> 00:08:33,556 until you're ready for a baby, we're 150 00:08:33,687 --> 00:08:36,037 just going to give you this drug to shut down your testosterone. 151 00:08:36,167 --> 00:08:38,561 That's what we do to women. 152 00:08:38,692 --> 00:08:40,563 These hormones affect our bone development. 153 00:08:40,694 --> 00:08:41,782 They affect our brain. 154 00:08:41,912 --> 00:08:43,218 They affect our breast development. 155 00:08:43,348 --> 00:08:46,177 They affect our risk of cardiovascular issues 156 00:08:46,308 --> 00:08:48,005 later on in life. 157 00:08:48,136 --> 00:08:51,748 And it makes just no sense to think that you could shut down 158 00:08:51,879 --> 00:08:56,536 ovulation in healthy women and it would make no difference. 159 00:08:56,666 --> 00:09:00,801 We are putting younger and younger women on birth control. 160 00:09:00,931 --> 00:09:03,281 And there haven't been studies done 161 00:09:03,412 --> 00:09:07,547 on the safety of that long term in terms of their mental health 162 00:09:07,677 --> 00:09:08,896 and their reproductive health. 163 00:09:15,772 --> 00:09:17,165 I'm on the pill. 164 00:09:17,295 --> 00:09:18,819 I can't actually think which one it is right now. 165 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:21,038 But it's like the one when you take it for three weeks 166 00:09:21,169 --> 00:09:22,562 and have a week off. 167 00:09:22,692 --> 00:09:26,000 And I feel like I've been on it for six months. 168 00:09:26,130 --> 00:09:29,090 And I definitely feel a bit more crazy, not crazy, 169 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:31,440 but more hormonal. 170 00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:33,181 So I'm currently taking Yasmin. 171 00:09:33,311 --> 00:09:37,315 I've been taking that probably for around seven, eight years. 172 00:09:37,446 --> 00:09:38,882 Before that, I was on a different pill 173 00:09:39,013 --> 00:09:40,710 called Dianette, which actually I didn't 174 00:09:40,841 --> 00:09:42,277 have a very good experience on. 175 00:09:42,407 --> 00:09:45,672 It made me massive mood swings, feel very depressed. 176 00:09:45,802 --> 00:09:46,498 I was moody. 177 00:09:46,629 --> 00:09:47,717 I got fat. 178 00:09:47,848 --> 00:09:49,153 I was sad. 179 00:09:49,284 --> 00:09:51,939 I was bitchy and just not a very nice person. 180 00:09:52,069 --> 00:09:53,723 And then I just, it just wasn't-- 181 00:09:53,854 --> 00:09:55,682 emotionally, it wasn't great. 182 00:10:00,556 --> 00:10:02,863 Thanks so much for agreeing to share your story with The 183 00:10:02,993 --> 00:10:04,691 Debrief. 184 00:10:04,821 --> 00:10:06,997 Tell me a bit about what's been going on with you and the pill. 185 00:10:07,128 --> 00:10:10,392 Ah, so much. 186 00:10:10,522 --> 00:10:13,351 Well, when I was 17, I went on the pill. 187 00:10:13,482 --> 00:10:15,136 And-- 188 00:10:15,266 --> 00:10:18,139 It really all began for me when I was about 14 or 15 and I 189 00:10:18,269 --> 00:10:21,621 was first prescribed hormonal contraception to regulate 190 00:10:21,751 --> 00:10:24,101 really heavy periods. 191 00:10:24,232 --> 00:10:27,104 I just didn't like how I felt. And I couldn't 192 00:10:27,235 --> 00:10:28,671 articulate that feeling. 193 00:10:28,802 --> 00:10:31,761 But I knew something was wrong. 194 00:10:31,892 --> 00:10:35,025 I stopped taking the pill after about six months. 195 00:10:35,156 --> 00:10:37,898 And I didn't start taking it again 196 00:10:38,028 --> 00:10:41,379 until I entered into a serious long-term relationship 197 00:10:41,510 --> 00:10:43,555 and wanted contraception. 198 00:10:43,686 --> 00:10:50,562 That was when my life just completely fell apart. 199 00:10:50,693 --> 00:10:53,522 I started having debilitating panic attacks, 200 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:56,133 to the point where I couldn't go to work. 201 00:10:56,264 --> 00:10:58,005 I couldn't leave the house. 202 00:10:58,135 --> 00:11:01,704 And I was prescribed medication for depression and anxiety 203 00:11:01,835 --> 00:11:03,227 as well. 204 00:11:03,358 --> 00:11:05,186 And then one night I remember sitting in my flat. 205 00:11:05,316 --> 00:11:06,927 I couldn't sleep. 206 00:11:07,057 --> 00:11:09,407 I was having an anxiety attack that had lasted for hours I 207 00:11:09,538 --> 00:11:12,193 really, really, honestly, was contemplating 208 00:11:12,323 --> 00:11:14,978 ending my life because I was sitting there thinking, 209 00:11:15,109 --> 00:11:17,677 if this is what my life is going to be like, 210 00:11:17,807 --> 00:11:19,069 I don't want to live it. 211 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,464 This is no way to live. 212 00:11:22,594 --> 00:11:25,728 And then I came across this forum. 213 00:11:25,859 --> 00:11:29,036 And I was reading post after post after post 214 00:11:29,166 --> 00:11:32,039 where women were describing pretty much exactly what I 215 00:11:32,169 --> 00:11:35,695 felt. And it was one of those moments where you're like, 216 00:11:35,825 --> 00:11:37,784 this is almost too good. 217 00:11:37,914 --> 00:11:39,220 Could it be my pill? 218 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:41,396 No, surely not. 219 00:11:41,526 --> 00:11:43,311 I decided without discussing it with my doctor 220 00:11:43,441 --> 00:11:45,966 to come off the pill. 221 00:11:46,096 --> 00:11:48,969 Within three months, I was fine. 222 00:11:49,099 --> 00:11:54,104 And now I feel like every emotion I feel is my own. 223 00:11:54,235 --> 00:11:58,674 And that really formed the heart of the Debrief investigation, 224 00:11:58,805 --> 00:12:00,894 "Mad About the Pill." 225 00:12:01,024 --> 00:12:03,505 We then run a survey on the site. 226 00:12:03,635 --> 00:12:07,074 And we thought we'd get a few responses on this. 227 00:12:07,204 --> 00:12:09,206 We were overwhelmed by the number 228 00:12:09,337 --> 00:12:13,471 of Debrief readers, thousands. 229 00:12:13,602 --> 00:12:16,866 Without the pill, I felt like I gained back some clarity 230 00:12:16,997 --> 00:12:18,563 and was able to shift my thoughts 231 00:12:18,694 --> 00:12:21,436 towards positive development rather than flailing around 232 00:12:21,566 --> 00:12:22,916 in my own misery. 233 00:12:23,046 --> 00:12:24,744 It's so many people saying the same thing, 234 00:12:24,874 --> 00:12:25,701 like my GP didn't know. 235 00:12:25,832 --> 00:12:26,963 My GP couldn't help me. 236 00:12:27,094 --> 00:12:29,749 My GP didn't make these connections. 237 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:32,316 For this many people to want to talk about something, 238 00:12:32,447 --> 00:12:34,797 it means they don't feel like they have anywhere else to go. 239 00:12:34,928 --> 00:12:36,277 And it can feel quite isolating. 240 00:12:36,407 --> 00:12:37,974 It's such a personal thing, isn't it? 241 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:41,238 You've got to be able to get that information from 242 00:12:41,369 --> 00:12:42,239 a reliable source. 243 00:12:46,635 --> 00:12:49,856 It wasn't until a study from the University of Copenhagen 244 00:12:49,986 --> 00:12:52,684 came out, authored by Professor Lidegaard, 245 00:12:52,815 --> 00:12:57,820 finding a correlation between women suffering from depression 246 00:12:57,951 --> 00:13:02,346 and anxiety and women taking hormonal contraception. 247 00:13:07,090 --> 00:13:10,615 People don't like the message that hormonal contraception may 248 00:13:10,746 --> 00:13:12,313 bring depression. 249 00:13:12,443 --> 00:13:15,359 A woman should know it could be a consequence 250 00:13:15,490 --> 00:13:17,187 of her hormonal contraceptive use 251 00:13:17,318 --> 00:13:19,059 because then she can stop that use. 252 00:13:28,198 --> 00:13:31,245 A majority of women do not get depressed. 253 00:13:31,375 --> 00:13:35,031 But the denial of the existence of that problem 254 00:13:35,162 --> 00:13:39,557 implies that women are not asked sufficiently. 255 00:13:39,688 --> 00:13:42,169 When I went through my training, I was told, 256 00:13:42,299 --> 00:13:44,040 there's not a mood effect. 257 00:13:44,171 --> 00:13:46,956 But I can tell you from being on the pill myself, I can tell you 258 00:13:47,087 --> 00:13:49,611 from taking care of 25,000 women, 259 00:13:49,741 --> 00:13:51,526 there is definitely a mood effect. 260 00:13:51,656 --> 00:13:54,834 And it's well demonstrated in the literature. 261 00:13:54,964 --> 00:13:57,053 Based off the conclusions of this study, 262 00:13:57,184 --> 00:13:59,839 we should actually be warning women about the fact that they 263 00:13:59,969 --> 00:14:02,667 could get depressed on the pill. 264 00:14:02,798 --> 00:14:06,758 Many, many women came forward to say, this vindicates me. 265 00:14:06,889 --> 00:14:09,674 This makes me feel like I'm not crazy. 266 00:14:09,805 --> 00:14:12,764 It's not all in my head. 267 00:14:12,895 --> 00:14:15,855 Once I started making those connections for myself, 268 00:14:15,985 --> 00:14:19,684 I was researching into how this happened. 269 00:14:19,815 --> 00:14:22,731 I wanted to know, the pill could do all these things to me. 270 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:25,908 Exactly how did it do them? 271 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:27,301 And welcome back. 272 00:14:27,431 --> 00:14:29,129 We're going to talk with research professor 273 00:14:29,259 --> 00:14:30,739 and psychologist Sarah Hill. 274 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:32,349 She's the author of the new book. 275 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,395 It's called "This is Your Brain on Birth Control-- 276 00:14:34,525 --> 00:14:36,701 The Surprising Science of Women, Hormones, 277 00:14:36,832 --> 00:14:39,443 and the Law of Unintended Consequences." 278 00:14:39,574 --> 00:14:41,054 When they're talking about the pill, 279 00:14:41,184 --> 00:14:43,883 women always talk about how it makes them feel. 280 00:14:44,013 --> 00:14:46,668 And I think that until now, women haven't really 281 00:14:46,798 --> 00:14:51,194 had an explanation for why they're feeling that way. 282 00:14:51,325 --> 00:14:55,503 I wanted to look at what role women's sex hormones play 283 00:14:55,633 --> 00:14:58,941 in orchestrating the activities of women's brains. 284 00:14:59,072 --> 00:15:01,117 And then how does all of that change on the pill? 285 00:15:04,555 --> 00:15:07,732 Taking the pill is associated with having a dampened stress 286 00:15:07,863 --> 00:15:11,258 response, particularly the stress hormone cortisol. 287 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:14,261 It actually just makes women less able to cope with stress. 288 00:15:14,391 --> 00:15:16,567 And it can also cause problems with things 289 00:15:16,698 --> 00:15:18,482 like learning and memory. 290 00:15:18,613 --> 00:15:21,790 So it can cause mood-related symptomology that we oftentimes 291 00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:24,706 see in pill-taking women, things like depression, 292 00:15:24,836 --> 00:15:26,447 things like anxiety. 293 00:15:26,577 --> 00:15:30,451 And it can be associated with even feelings of brain fog. 294 00:15:30,581 --> 00:15:32,409 And so you're a different version of yourself 295 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:34,759 when you're on hormonal contraception 296 00:15:34,890 --> 00:15:36,196 relative to the version of yourself 297 00:15:36,326 --> 00:15:38,502 that you are when you're off of it. 298 00:15:38,633 --> 00:15:41,462 Women shouldn't have to change who they are in order 299 00:15:41,592 --> 00:15:43,246 to protect themselves from pregnancy. 300 00:15:43,377 --> 00:15:44,900 And we should know enough about the way 301 00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:46,423 that our brains and our bodies work 302 00:15:46,554 --> 00:15:48,556 to know that that's exactly what we're doing when we 303 00:15:48,686 --> 00:15:49,861 go on the birth control pill. 304 00:16:04,398 --> 00:16:06,226 When you look at hormonal birth control, 305 00:16:06,356 --> 00:16:10,534 there's a long laundry list of side effects, 306 00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:13,668 from anxiety and increased risk of depression, 307 00:16:13,798 --> 00:16:17,237 painful sex, low libido, to nutrient depletion, 308 00:16:17,367 --> 00:16:20,544 migraine headaches, weight gain, insomnia, 309 00:16:20,675 --> 00:16:23,895 clitoral shrinkage, and even the impact 310 00:16:24,026 --> 00:16:27,377 it has on partner attraction. 311 00:16:27,508 --> 00:16:30,163 The body of knowledge that was growing, I think, 312 00:16:30,293 --> 00:16:33,601 through anecdotal reports was that women would go off 313 00:16:33,731 --> 00:16:37,257 the pill and realize that they weren't happy with the person 314 00:16:37,387 --> 00:16:40,564 that they had chosen as a mate. 315 00:16:40,695 --> 00:16:44,177 There's a sweaty T-shirt study that you can choose a good mate 316 00:16:44,307 --> 00:16:45,700 based on smell. 317 00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:48,137 But if you're on the pill, that sort of mechanism 318 00:16:48,268 --> 00:16:51,227 seems to be offline. 319 00:16:51,358 --> 00:16:53,534 We're seeking out the mate that will offer us the most 320 00:16:53,664 --> 00:16:55,014 genetic diversity. 321 00:16:55,144 --> 00:16:56,580 If you're a woman and you've ever 322 00:16:56,711 --> 00:16:58,713 smelt your partner after they're working out the gym 323 00:16:58,843 --> 00:17:02,021 and you're like, mm, that smells so good, when they're 324 00:17:02,151 --> 00:17:05,546 a little bit stinky, they're expressing their MHC complex. 325 00:17:05,676 --> 00:17:07,983 And it's giving your brain and your entire body 326 00:17:08,114 --> 00:17:11,030 data about their immune system and about their genetic 327 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,423 compatibility with you. 328 00:17:13,554 --> 00:17:16,470 On hormonal contraceptives, you end up choosing somebody 329 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,735 who is more alike than different. 330 00:17:20,865 --> 00:17:22,606 The catchphrase became that you end up mating 331 00:17:22,737 --> 00:17:26,697 with somebody who is more like brother and less like other. 332 00:17:26,828 --> 00:17:29,439 There's millions of women on this medication. 333 00:17:29,570 --> 00:17:31,659 That literally changes their emotions. 334 00:17:31,789 --> 00:17:33,052 It changes their pheromones. 335 00:17:33,182 --> 00:17:34,531 It changes their sex drive. 336 00:17:34,662 --> 00:17:38,361 What is the possible impact on the world? 337 00:17:45,673 --> 00:17:48,719 You're watching "The Breakfast Club." 338 00:17:48,850 --> 00:17:50,199 Morning, everybody. 339 00:17:50,330 --> 00:17:51,940 We've got some special guests in the building. 340 00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:55,074 Dr. Amun, Dr. Amsu, and Coach Gessie, thank you very much-- 341 00:17:55,204 --> 00:17:56,292 I had Gessie's name right. 342 00:17:56,423 --> 00:17:57,119 Thank you. 343 00:17:57,250 --> 00:17:58,555 for joining us. 344 00:17:58,686 --> 00:18:00,514 It is National Sexual Health Awareness Month. 345 00:18:00,644 --> 00:18:03,125 And I see you guys have these Kill the Pill shirts on. 346 00:18:03,256 --> 00:18:04,126 So let's get into. 347 00:18:04,257 --> 00:18:04,909 It. 348 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,346 What is the pill? 349 00:18:06,476 --> 00:18:07,390 What kind of pill are y'all trying to kill? 350 00:18:07,521 --> 00:18:07,912 What kinds pill we killing? 351 00:18:08,043 --> 00:18:09,349 Yes. 352 00:18:09,479 --> 00:18:10,263 Well, first of all, we champion women's causes. 353 00:18:10,393 --> 00:18:12,003 We've championed fibroids. 354 00:18:12,134 --> 00:18:15,268 We've championed PCOS, which is polycystic ovarian syndrome. 355 00:18:15,398 --> 00:18:18,619 We've championed endometriosis and infertility. 356 00:18:18,749 --> 00:18:23,363 The number one culprit of actually all of these issues, 357 00:18:23,493 --> 00:18:26,409 the elephant in the room is the birth control pill. 358 00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:28,019 Really? 359 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:31,197 People are being told that the pill is the greatest 360 00:18:31,327 --> 00:18:32,328 invention of all time. 361 00:18:32,459 --> 00:18:34,417 But it's making our women sick. 362 00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:37,028 That's why we're saying kill the pill before it kills you. 363 00:18:40,075 --> 00:18:44,297 I am one of the 90% of Black women affected by uterine 364 00:18:44,427 --> 00:18:45,863 fibroids by age 50. 365 00:18:48,605 --> 00:18:52,609 My grueling journey included 12 surgeries, 366 00:18:52,740 --> 00:18:56,831 five of them for fibroids and five for complications 367 00:18:56,961 --> 00:19:00,139 from those fibroids, and even my heart 368 00:19:00,269 --> 00:19:03,229 stopping on the delivery table. 369 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,493 But thank God when I birthed my miracle baby, Nia, 370 00:19:06,623 --> 00:19:09,974 she birthed me into my purpose and work 371 00:19:10,105 --> 00:19:13,413 as a fibroids activist. 372 00:19:13,543 --> 00:19:17,721 So many women we talk with on a daily basis will say, oh, 373 00:19:17,852 --> 00:19:20,550 wait a minute, yeah, I just have a heavy cycle or I just have 374 00:19:20,681 --> 00:19:23,118 a heavy period, and not realizing that they are 375 00:19:23,249 --> 00:19:26,556 actually exhibiting symptoms of what is the root cause 376 00:19:26,687 --> 00:19:28,819 of fibroids, which is the estrogen dominance. 377 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:31,953 It's triggered by stress, diet, and pollutants. 378 00:19:32,083 --> 00:19:34,738 Well, those chemical pollutants, the number one culprit 379 00:19:34,869 --> 00:19:39,221 was birth control, hormonal birth controls. 380 00:19:39,352 --> 00:19:41,005 OMG. 381 00:19:41,136 --> 00:19:43,704 11.5 million-- I don't know if you know this number, Angela, 382 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:48,535 but 11.5 million of us women and girls are actually on the pill. 383 00:19:48,665 --> 00:19:53,104 But 35% of the women who are prescribed it 384 00:19:53,235 --> 00:19:57,544 are prescribed it for noncontraceptive PMS reasons. 385 00:19:57,674 --> 00:19:59,198 They're being told, you need this. 386 00:19:59,328 --> 00:20:00,721 It's the only way you're going to be 387 00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:02,113 able to actually restore your-- 388 00:20:02,244 --> 00:20:03,289 have a normal life. 389 00:20:06,509 --> 00:20:10,557 Over time, what happens with it is that it masks your symptoms. 390 00:20:10,687 --> 00:20:13,908 And then once you get off the birth control, what 391 00:20:14,038 --> 00:20:17,216 happens, we find out, holy cow, there 392 00:20:17,346 --> 00:20:21,481 have been monsters developing in the background. 393 00:20:21,611 --> 00:20:23,787 Bringing the estrogen-- I'm talking to these women 394 00:20:23,918 --> 00:20:26,486 daily about birth control causing fibroids, 395 00:20:26,616 --> 00:20:30,098 causing infertility, causing pulmonary embolism, 396 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:33,841 blood clots, where women have lost their lives. 397 00:20:33,971 --> 00:20:35,495 And we have to look at when something 398 00:20:35,625 --> 00:20:38,454 is so prevalent and so inextricably 399 00:20:38,585 --> 00:20:44,155 tied into women's lives, why are we sicker as women? 400 00:20:44,286 --> 00:20:46,332 Did you go on the birth control pill for something 401 00:20:46,462 --> 00:20:49,422 other than controlling pregnancy? 402 00:20:49,552 --> 00:20:51,337 Regulate my period, too. 403 00:20:51,467 --> 00:20:53,382 I was having a lot of issues with getting it, 404 00:20:53,513 --> 00:20:55,166 not getting it. 405 00:20:55,297 --> 00:20:57,343 When I was in high school, it was recommended for my skin. 406 00:20:57,473 --> 00:20:59,083 Do you remember why you went on the birth control pill 407 00:20:59,214 --> 00:21:00,259 in the first place? 408 00:21:00,389 --> 00:21:01,912 For PCOS, polycystic syndrome. 409 00:21:06,177 --> 00:21:10,225 Too often I see women put on birth control pills not 410 00:21:10,356 --> 00:21:13,228 for contraception but to deal with breakthrough bleeding 411 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,145 or so forth, where the doctor never bothers to test them 412 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:18,973 first and see why it's happening. 413 00:21:19,103 --> 00:21:21,628 There's just this knee-jerk, shoot-from-the-hip, boom, 414 00:21:21,758 --> 00:21:23,238 take the birth control pill. 415 00:21:23,369 --> 00:21:25,806 Birth control is incredibly useful. 416 00:21:25,936 --> 00:21:27,590 The problem is that it's so useful, 417 00:21:27,721 --> 00:21:29,418 it's being used as a treatment for a hell 418 00:21:29,549 --> 00:21:32,682 of a lot of things that aren't keep that baby out of me. 419 00:21:32,813 --> 00:21:35,598 So many women go on the pill for something like 420 00:21:35,729 --> 00:21:38,775 endometriosis, for instance, because that is the only 421 00:21:38,906 --> 00:21:42,301 solution that's really offered now by doctors. 422 00:21:42,431 --> 00:21:45,695 And, unfortunately, I mean, it's just a Band-Aid. 423 00:21:45,826 --> 00:21:49,090 It suppresses their pain a little bit. 424 00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:51,484 But, I mean, unfortunately, I do find when a lot of them 425 00:21:51,614 --> 00:21:55,444 get off of it, the pain is right back. 426 00:21:55,575 --> 00:21:57,968 1 in 10 women suffer from endometriosis. 427 00:21:58,099 --> 00:22:01,145 And it's just one of the many painful, debilitating lady 428 00:22:01,276 --> 00:22:04,192 diseases that gets treated with birth control and a shrug. 429 00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,455 There's also dysmenorrhea, irregular 430 00:22:06,586 --> 00:22:09,545 or excessive bleeding, and polycystic ovary syndrome. 431 00:22:09,676 --> 00:22:12,200 PCOS afflicts 1 in 10 women with symptoms 432 00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:15,638 like weight gain, hair growth, fertility problems, 433 00:22:15,769 --> 00:22:17,161 and diabetes. 434 00:22:17,292 --> 00:22:18,728 After three years, this fertility specialist 435 00:22:18,859 --> 00:22:20,774 on the Upper West Side goes, yeah, 436 00:22:20,904 --> 00:22:23,385 you have cysts all over your ovaries. 437 00:22:23,516 --> 00:22:24,821 And I'm like, what does that mean? 438 00:22:24,952 --> 00:22:26,562 It's like, well, it's the leading 439 00:22:26,693 --> 00:22:28,869 cause of infertility, diabetes, and heart disease in women. 440 00:22:28,999 --> 00:22:31,262 And here are more birth control pills. 441 00:22:31,393 --> 00:22:34,135 It's like finding all of your furniture on your front lawn 442 00:22:34,265 --> 00:22:36,006 and the police are like, that's life. 443 00:22:36,137 --> 00:22:37,834 Want to take the pill? 444 00:22:37,965 --> 00:22:40,315 In the doctor's mind, you're having a withdrawal bleed every 445 00:22:40,446 --> 00:22:41,925 month, which they call a period. 446 00:22:42,056 --> 00:22:43,318 Therefore, you're fixed. 447 00:22:43,449 --> 00:22:45,320 But nobody talks to that woman about the fact 448 00:22:45,451 --> 00:22:47,453 that she's at higher risk for diabetes. 449 00:22:47,583 --> 00:22:50,151 She's at higher risk for stroke and heart attack. 450 00:22:50,281 --> 00:22:52,327 We're not setting women free. 451 00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:54,634 We're setting them up for disease. 452 00:22:54,764 --> 00:22:56,766 We're setting them up for a lot of problems. 453 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:08,299 My name is Erika, known to you all better as Farmer Girl. 454 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:10,127 Although I'm from a small town in Colorado, 455 00:23:10,258 --> 00:23:11,825 I have had the opportunity to travel 456 00:23:11,955 --> 00:23:14,349 to many parts of the world and the US. 457 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,612 In a way, I define myself, that experience I've had, 458 00:23:16,743 --> 00:23:17,831 by traveling. 459 00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:23,880 We're at her home in Arizona. 460 00:23:24,011 --> 00:23:26,317 And my cell phone rang. 461 00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:27,928 And it was Erika's phone. 462 00:23:28,058 --> 00:23:33,324 And I answered in anticipation of our upcoming visit 463 00:23:33,455 --> 00:23:37,633 from her for Thanksgiving. 464 00:23:37,764 --> 00:23:40,027 And it wasn't her. 465 00:23:40,157 --> 00:23:41,811 It was her boyfriend. 466 00:23:41,942 --> 00:23:45,946 And he said, there's a problem. 467 00:23:46,076 --> 00:23:49,166 And he had come into the apartment 468 00:23:49,297 --> 00:23:51,212 and found her on the floor. 469 00:23:51,342 --> 00:23:53,344 And she was taken by ambulance. 470 00:23:53,475 --> 00:23:57,348 And we later learned that had multiple heart 471 00:23:57,479 --> 00:24:00,221 attacks on her way to the emergency room. 472 00:24:04,355 --> 00:24:06,357 I was able to talk to the emergency room doctor. 473 00:24:06,488 --> 00:24:08,969 And he asked if she was on birth control. 474 00:24:09,099 --> 00:24:11,275 And I said, yes, the NuvaRing. 475 00:24:11,406 --> 00:24:13,277 He said, I believe that's the problem. 476 00:24:13,408 --> 00:24:17,717 And we have pulmonary embolisms going on here. 477 00:24:17,847 --> 00:24:21,198 We were told that she was brain dead. 478 00:24:21,329 --> 00:24:28,771 And on Thanksgiving, they pronounced her dead. 479 00:24:28,902 --> 00:24:33,515 The pulmonologist took us down the hallway and put 480 00:24:33,646 --> 00:24:36,692 Erika's lungs up on the screen and said, 481 00:24:36,823 --> 00:24:38,389 this was caused by the NuvaRing. 482 00:24:45,266 --> 00:24:49,749 She actually was prescribed the NuvaRing because 483 00:24:49,879 --> 00:24:53,100 of having an ovarian cyst. 484 00:24:53,230 --> 00:24:55,363 And we now know that most ovarian cysts 485 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:57,147 resolve themselves anyway. 486 00:25:00,411 --> 00:25:03,458 Our daughter was really strong. 487 00:25:03,589 --> 00:25:09,116 And if she knew what we now know, 488 00:25:09,246 --> 00:25:12,728 she would be right here doing this 489 00:25:12,859 --> 00:25:15,078 because she would be incensed at what's 490 00:25:15,209 --> 00:25:18,734 going on at the expense of women's health unnecessarily. 491 00:25:21,389 --> 00:25:23,739 Every day that goes by, we know there's 492 00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:26,786 girls out there that are not informed and, therefore, 493 00:25:26,916 --> 00:25:28,831 at risk. 494 00:25:28,962 --> 00:25:33,967 We want to do whatever we can to help inform. 495 00:25:56,859 --> 00:25:58,687 When I was buying these magazines, 496 00:25:58,818 --> 00:26:00,863 I would buy all of them. 497 00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:03,083 Of course, the checker would ask me, are you in it? 498 00:26:03,213 --> 00:26:04,650 Why are you buying it? 499 00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:06,695 I just tell them, my daughter died 500 00:26:06,826 --> 00:26:08,567 because of this birth control. 501 00:26:08,697 --> 00:26:10,307 I show them the article. 502 00:26:10,438 --> 00:26:13,789 Actually, the very first day that I bought it, one checker 503 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,792 said that she just started taking it about a month ago 504 00:26:16,923 --> 00:26:20,317 and she said she has some pain right at the top of her thigh. 505 00:26:20,448 --> 00:26:22,493 So I told her she needs to go in right now. 506 00:26:22,624 --> 00:26:26,410 I handed her to the magazine right then and there. 507 00:26:26,541 --> 00:26:28,108 Brittany kept it in the original bag 508 00:26:28,238 --> 00:26:29,936 that she got from Planned Parenthood. 509 00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:34,810 And she hid it underneath the cheese in the refrigerator 510 00:26:34,941 --> 00:26:36,638 so her dad wouldn't see it. 511 00:26:36,769 --> 00:26:39,554 So it's been in there ever since. 512 00:26:39,685 --> 00:26:42,862 They look like a condom with the foil. 513 00:26:42,992 --> 00:26:46,779 But down on the bottom it says, "doesn't protect against HIV." 514 00:26:46,909 --> 00:26:49,912 Well, what about a black warning label that says, 515 00:26:50,043 --> 00:26:51,000 "could cause death"? 516 00:26:54,917 --> 00:26:56,353 Here goes Brittany. 517 00:26:56,484 --> 00:26:57,180 Hi. 518 00:26:57,311 --> 00:26:59,574 Show me a trick. 519 00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:03,099 I was just like, ah. 520 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,453 We just kind of got ready in her bedroom. 521 00:27:09,584 --> 00:27:12,674 And we went out to a club. 522 00:27:12,805 --> 00:27:17,723 I remember when we first walked in she said how loud it was. 523 00:27:17,853 --> 00:27:20,943 She said it was so loud. 524 00:27:21,074 --> 00:27:22,336 We all love to dance. 525 00:27:22,466 --> 00:27:24,468 And she's like, I don't feel like dancing. 526 00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:27,907 And I just thought it was really weird because we've always 527 00:27:28,037 --> 00:27:30,779 gone out to dance. 528 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:34,174 And then she felt like her heart was racing. 529 00:27:34,304 --> 00:27:36,872 I was like, maybe she's having an anxiety attack. 530 00:27:37,003 --> 00:27:39,396 And then all of a sudden, she's sitting there 531 00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,398 and her eyes kind of roll back. 532 00:27:41,529 --> 00:27:44,924 And she just, like she kind of hits us. 533 00:27:45,054 --> 00:27:47,230 I remember calling 911. 534 00:27:47,361 --> 00:27:51,626 Right when we got to the hospital, I called my mom. 535 00:27:51,757 --> 00:27:53,846 And I just said, what happened? 536 00:27:53,976 --> 00:27:55,717 And she goes, "Mom, just come out." 537 00:27:55,848 --> 00:27:57,458 I get a call from the head nurse. 538 00:27:57,588 --> 00:28:02,681 And she tells me that Brittany came in without a heartbeat 539 00:28:02,811 --> 00:28:05,553 and that she was bleeding from the lungs. 540 00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,424 They said we could come in and see her. 541 00:28:07,555 --> 00:28:09,252 But there were so many people-- 542 00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:10,601 trying to save her. 543 00:28:10,732 --> 00:28:11,951 And they said her lungs were hemorrhaging. 544 00:28:12,081 --> 00:28:13,300 They couldn't get it to stop. 545 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:15,084 They didn't know what was the matter. 546 00:28:15,215 --> 00:28:18,392 Maybe she was drugged or she had a disease. 547 00:28:18,522 --> 00:28:19,915 I kept saying, no medications. 548 00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:21,656 And my mom's like, well, yeah, she's on medication. 549 00:28:21,787 --> 00:28:23,179 She's on birth control. 550 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:25,355 And I'm like, oh, I didn't even think about that. 551 00:28:25,486 --> 00:28:26,705 So we prayed. 552 00:28:26,835 --> 00:28:28,184 We hoped for miracles. 553 00:28:28,315 --> 00:28:31,535 But they did another brain scan. 554 00:28:31,666 --> 00:28:37,324 And the doctor came and told us that Brittany was gone. 555 00:28:37,454 --> 00:28:40,414 Then we had to tell the family that Brittany 556 00:28:40,544 --> 00:28:43,939 was no longer going to be with us, that we had lost her. 557 00:29:06,005 --> 00:29:07,397 I started doing some research. 558 00:29:07,528 --> 00:29:11,053 And I find out that there's thousands of lawsuits 559 00:29:11,184 --> 00:29:12,968 against Merck for this product. 560 00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:15,362 I mean, thousands of lawsuits and the product's 561 00:29:15,492 --> 00:29:16,929 still on the market? 562 00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:18,844 I don't understand how all this stuff works, right? 563 00:29:18,974 --> 00:29:21,237 But I can't believe this. 564 00:29:21,368 --> 00:29:25,589 I'm told that I should file a report with the FDA. 565 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,808 So I file that. 566 00:29:26,939 --> 00:29:28,288 I wait about a month. 567 00:29:28,418 --> 00:29:30,290 And I don't hear anything back. 568 00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:31,857 So I decide to call them one day. 569 00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:32,901 And I call. 570 00:29:33,032 --> 00:29:34,424 And I got transferred around. 571 00:29:34,555 --> 00:29:37,427 And I finally got in touch with a very nice woman 572 00:29:37,558 --> 00:29:40,256 who said, unfortunately, we don't have much funding. 573 00:29:40,387 --> 00:29:43,085 We don't have enough funding to respond to all of these. 574 00:29:43,216 --> 00:29:45,827 And I said, but my daughter died. 575 00:29:45,958 --> 00:29:49,700 Don't you want to know more about why my daughter died? 576 00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:52,051 I'm not antigovernment or anti-FDA. 577 00:29:52,181 --> 00:29:54,401 But when I found this out, I was like, what do you do? 578 00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:17,903 The pill-- millions of words have been written 579 00:30:18,033 --> 00:30:21,428 for and against it, for this little white tablet is more 580 00:30:21,558 --> 00:30:24,083 explosive than dynamite. 581 00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:26,999 It's the most controversial pill ever produced. 582 00:30:27,129 --> 00:30:29,479 Scientifically, it's a dramatic step forward 583 00:30:29,610 --> 00:30:31,351 in the control of nature. 584 00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:41,752 In the middle of World War I, there emerged for the first 585 00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:46,627 time a real campaign to legalize contraception. 586 00:30:46,757 --> 00:30:50,892 And the key figure in that was Margaret Sanger. 587 00:30:51,023 --> 00:30:53,286 She was a visiting nurse. 588 00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:58,508 And she saw firsthand the costs of lack 589 00:30:58,639 --> 00:31:01,337 of control over pregnancy and reproduction. 590 00:31:01,468 --> 00:31:05,341 She does this service in some ways, right, 591 00:31:05,472 --> 00:31:11,347 where women have bodily autonomy and control around their own 592 00:31:11,478 --> 00:31:13,132 fertility. 593 00:31:13,262 --> 00:31:18,137 But it comes about because of her belief in a science that 594 00:31:18,267 --> 00:31:19,921 promulgates white supremacy. 595 00:31:20,052 --> 00:31:23,838 Eugenics, it's a scientific way to rid 596 00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:28,190 society of those who are seen as less valuable members. 597 00:31:28,321 --> 00:31:30,714 I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children 598 00:31:30,845 --> 00:31:35,154 into the world that have disease from their parents, 599 00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,983 that have no chance in the world to be a human being, 600 00:31:38,113 --> 00:31:39,375 practically. 601 00:31:39,506 --> 00:31:41,551 Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things, 602 00:31:41,682 --> 00:31:43,466 it's just marked when they're born. 603 00:31:43,597 --> 00:31:48,341 Sanger immediately saw the possibility of an alliance with 604 00:31:48,471 --> 00:31:49,603 the eugenicists. 605 00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:54,651 Sanger is a pragmatist. 606 00:31:54,782 --> 00:31:58,090 She is willing to work with different organizations 607 00:31:58,220 --> 00:32:02,790 in order to get birth control as a common practice. 608 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:05,662 And so as she gains more prominence, 609 00:32:05,793 --> 00:32:08,187 Planned Parenthood materializes. 610 00:32:10,798 --> 00:32:13,932 And the time that she should be thinking about retirement, 611 00:32:14,062 --> 00:32:18,893 she is steadily working to get investors and people who 612 00:32:19,024 --> 00:32:20,721 are willing to do the kind of research 613 00:32:20,851 --> 00:32:27,858 to create a pill that women can use without the consent of men. 614 00:32:27,989 --> 00:32:30,644 But it comes about at the expense 615 00:32:30,774 --> 00:32:33,952 of a group of already oppressed people. 616 00:32:36,911 --> 00:32:39,740 The trial that they used to get the pill approved was 617 00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:42,134 a trial in Puerto Rico. 618 00:32:42,264 --> 00:32:47,052 And only 132 women had taken the pill for 12 consecutive months. 619 00:32:47,182 --> 00:32:51,230 It was that whole mentality of let's find a way to get 620 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,622 the FDA to approve this. 621 00:32:52,753 --> 00:32:54,102 They're not going to do it here. 622 00:32:54,233 --> 00:32:55,756 Let's go to Puerto Rico because they're 623 00:32:55,886 --> 00:33:00,456 having population issues and they're living in poverty. 624 00:33:00,587 --> 00:33:04,199 You have a population where doctors say, hey, 625 00:33:04,330 --> 00:33:08,290 these women have been clamoring for the ability to be able 626 00:33:08,421 --> 00:33:10,336 to control their fertility. 627 00:33:10,466 --> 00:33:12,642 That's true. 628 00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:17,212 But they didn't know about the possibilities of the side 629 00:33:17,343 --> 00:33:18,474 effects. 630 00:33:18,605 --> 00:33:20,737 Five women died on the trial. 631 00:33:20,868 --> 00:33:23,305 One of the five deaths was a suicide. 632 00:33:23,436 --> 00:33:24,872 And, of course, they said that had 633 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,743 nothing to do with the pill. 634 00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:29,833 So when the drug companies presented the findings 635 00:33:29,964 --> 00:33:32,836 to the FDA, they omitted things that 636 00:33:32,967 --> 00:33:34,664 weren't comfortable to them. 637 00:33:34,795 --> 00:33:36,927 They included things that were comfortable. 638 00:33:37,058 --> 00:33:40,279 And a lot of it came out after the fact. 639 00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:43,282 Women were taking this pill in more and more numbers. 640 00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:44,935 Over the course of the first decade, 641 00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:47,112 the uptake was incredible. 642 00:33:47,242 --> 00:33:50,724 But women had really severe side effects. 643 00:33:50,854 --> 00:33:53,161 Enovid, the first pill, had a very high level 644 00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:55,511 of synthetic estrogen. And it caused women 645 00:33:55,642 --> 00:33:59,080 to have a lot of really serious physical side effects 646 00:33:59,211 --> 00:34:01,822 as well as things like depression. 647 00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:05,130 It wasn't very long when the first blood clot came out, 648 00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:09,047 '63, the first case report of a heart attack. 649 00:34:09,177 --> 00:34:12,702 Most of the things that are done to us are done without 650 00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:14,530 our real informed consent. 651 00:34:14,661 --> 00:34:16,750 I think that our rights are violated all the time 652 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,274 by most doctors. 653 00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:21,320 Barbara Seaman wrote this book, 654 00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:23,713 "The Doctor's Case Against the Pill." 655 00:34:23,844 --> 00:34:28,414 She wanted to interview medical professionals about the pill 656 00:34:28,544 --> 00:34:30,677 and see it from their perspective. 657 00:34:30,807 --> 00:34:33,027 What were the dangers of the pill? 658 00:34:33,158 --> 00:34:35,986 More and more women were taking this medication. 659 00:34:36,117 --> 00:34:37,945 And those numbers were growing so rapidly. 660 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:40,078 What could that mean going forward? 661 00:34:41,470 --> 00:34:44,691 And that book was really a catalyst 662 00:34:44,821 --> 00:34:47,650 for what we now see as the Women's Health Movement. 663 00:35:01,534 --> 00:35:05,146 I moved to DC in '69. 664 00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:09,411 It was just a hotbed of stuff happening there. 665 00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:13,285 We had a collective of women called DC Women's Liberation. 666 00:35:13,415 --> 00:35:14,547 We had an office. 667 00:35:14,677 --> 00:35:17,202 We would meet every day. 668 00:35:17,332 --> 00:35:20,161 We all had side effects on the pill. 669 00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:23,643 I, for instance, had had hair loss. 670 00:35:23,773 --> 00:35:27,212 And I said to my doctor at the time, who was a man, of course, 671 00:35:27,342 --> 00:35:29,779 I said, could this be-- 672 00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:31,172 could this be related to the pill? 673 00:35:31,303 --> 00:35:32,869 No. 674 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,133 One day, eight of us were sitting around 675 00:35:35,263 --> 00:35:37,439 at one of our endless meetings, saying 676 00:35:37,570 --> 00:35:39,572 tomorrow there's supposedly hearings 677 00:35:39,702 --> 00:35:41,182 on the Hill about the pill. 678 00:35:41,313 --> 00:35:44,403 We said, well, let's go. 679 00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:47,884 In those days, you could get into Senate hearings. 680 00:35:48,015 --> 00:35:52,106 Gaylord Nelson was a Senator in Wisconsin and had been given 681 00:35:52,237 --> 00:35:56,241 a copy of Barbara Seaman's book, which spurred him to sponsor 682 00:35:56,371 --> 00:35:58,112 the Nelson Pill Hearings. 683 00:35:58,243 --> 00:36:00,462 Barbara Seaman called it the Boston Tea Party 684 00:36:00,593 --> 00:36:02,769 of the Women's Health Movement. 685 00:36:02,899 --> 00:36:07,730 The women in this country are consuming oral contraceptive 686 00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:12,300 medications in the belief that they are considered safe 687 00:36:12,431 --> 00:36:15,477 by the American Food and Drug Administration. 688 00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:20,569 We have young women having strokes from abnormal clots 689 00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:21,744 in arteries. 690 00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:23,572 We were sitting in the audience. 691 00:36:23,703 --> 00:36:26,009 And we're seeing all these men are testifying. 692 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:28,925 And they're talking about people dying. 693 00:36:29,056 --> 00:36:30,013 First we raised our hands. 694 00:36:30,144 --> 00:36:31,493 And nobody called on us. 695 00:36:31,624 --> 00:36:34,235 Then we just stood up and started yelling. 696 00:36:34,366 --> 00:36:36,411 How long am I going to have to sit here listening 697 00:36:36,542 --> 00:36:39,153 to the terrible effects of these pills on women without hearing 698 00:36:39,284 --> 00:36:40,763 from a single woman? 699 00:36:40,894 --> 00:36:42,765 I want to know where the drug companies' research 700 00:36:42,896 --> 00:36:44,593 studies are. 701 00:36:44,724 --> 00:36:46,378 Why do they all know that they have many adverse side effects 702 00:36:46,508 --> 00:36:49,294 that it's taken 10 years for you to begin to bring out? 703 00:36:49,424 --> 00:36:51,644 You say no significant effects on lactation. 704 00:36:51,774 --> 00:36:53,994 Does that mean to the mother of the child? 705 00:36:54,124 --> 00:37:00,348 Well, now if you would be quiet a moment, I'm-- 706 00:37:00,479 --> 00:37:01,567 We've been quite for-- 707 00:37:01,697 --> 00:37:02,655 We've been quiet for a long time. 708 00:37:02,785 --> 00:37:04,091 Quiet? 709 00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:05,745 We are not going to sit quietly any longer. 710 00:37:05,875 --> 00:37:11,185 You are murdering us for your profit and convenience. 711 00:37:11,316 --> 00:37:13,709 The committee will decide who the witnesses will be. 712 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,060 And we are trying to take the best scientific testimony we 713 00:37:17,191 --> 00:37:19,367 can get of those who know the most 714 00:37:19,498 --> 00:37:20,890 about the effects of the pill. 715 00:37:21,021 --> 00:37:21,717 Ask women. 716 00:37:21,848 --> 00:37:22,805 Ask women. 717 00:37:22,936 --> 00:37:24,198 I know that I was not warned. 718 00:37:24,329 --> 00:37:25,895 I know that I was told that they were safe. 719 00:37:26,026 --> 00:37:27,723 All right, now I'm going to proceed with the hearings. 720 00:37:27,854 --> 00:37:29,377 I don't want to be dis-- 721 00:37:29,508 --> 00:37:31,249 Well, we'll also proceed with our questioning then. 722 00:37:31,379 --> 00:37:33,251 Officer, we will-- we will-- 723 00:37:33,381 --> 00:37:34,600 You're going to take women, you're going to drag women out 724 00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:36,689 of this hearing whose lives are at stake. 725 00:37:36,819 --> 00:37:38,430 That's a fine way to run something. 726 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,476 It got an enormous amount of publicity. 727 00:37:41,607 --> 00:37:44,262 This hearing is supposed to be about informed consent, 728 00:37:44,392 --> 00:37:48,701 as I was just told, which is an amazing thing to me 729 00:37:48,831 --> 00:37:51,225 because none of us, not only did we not-- 730 00:37:51,356 --> 00:37:53,314 were we not told of the dangers of the pill. 731 00:37:53,445 --> 00:37:55,621 When we came in with problems, when 732 00:37:55,751 --> 00:37:57,710 we came in with side effects, we were 733 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,494 told to go on using the pill. 734 00:38:03,019 --> 00:38:05,108 So this is the transcripts of the hearing? 735 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,545 Yeah. 736 00:38:06,675 --> 00:38:08,242 Through Bernie Sanders' office, 737 00:38:08,373 --> 00:38:11,550 the transcripts were photocopied and were released through 738 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,814 the Freedom of Information Act. 739 00:38:14,944 --> 00:38:19,645 They knew much of what we should know and should have 740 00:38:19,775 --> 00:38:22,387 paid attention to prior to it coming to the market. 741 00:38:22,517 --> 00:38:23,910 They knew it already. 742 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,739 Do you consider the hazards potential or real? 743 00:38:26,869 --> 00:38:28,610 Well, some of the hazards are real. 744 00:38:28,741 --> 00:38:31,221 They knew about the effects on metabolism. 745 00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,746 They knew about effects on mood. 746 00:38:33,876 --> 00:38:37,924 They had evidence of some suicides and deaths 747 00:38:38,054 --> 00:38:40,274 in the research, in the original trials. 748 00:38:40,405 --> 00:38:44,104 We had a lot of evidence back then of all these effects. 749 00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:46,628 And our position is that the oral contraceptives are 750 00:38:46,759 --> 00:38:50,197 an effective and safe method of birth control. 751 00:38:50,328 --> 00:38:53,069 It was the American Medical Association with the drug 752 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,464 manufacturers that decided what the risk was and what it 753 00:38:56,595 --> 00:38:57,900 wasn't. 754 00:38:58,031 --> 00:39:00,468 It was really kind of a turning point in such 755 00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:05,299 that they allowed the industry to dictate the safety, what 756 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:07,780 was safe and what was not. 757 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:10,522 I expected to see all the medical stuff. 758 00:39:10,652 --> 00:39:12,437 But when I got to the parts where 759 00:39:12,567 --> 00:39:15,962 doctors are talking about basically changing 760 00:39:16,092 --> 00:39:19,313 the benefit-to-risk paradigm to get it approved because it was 761 00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:22,447 the benefit to society versus the risk to the individual, 762 00:39:22,577 --> 00:39:24,318 that blew me away. 763 00:39:24,449 --> 00:39:26,625 Every pharmaceutical company does that. 764 00:39:26,755 --> 00:39:28,801 You hear that all the time, benefit versus risk. 765 00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:32,892 And nobody ever says benefit to who versus my risk? 766 00:39:33,022 --> 00:39:33,675 Right. 767 00:39:33,806 --> 00:39:35,460 Right. 768 00:39:35,590 --> 00:39:37,984 A delegation from the Women's Liberation Movement visited 769 00:39:38,114 --> 00:39:39,768 Senator Gaylord Nelson. 770 00:39:39,899 --> 00:39:42,815 They complained that Nelson's investigation of birth control 771 00:39:42,945 --> 00:39:46,514 pill safety did not call women who take the pill or women 772 00:39:46,645 --> 00:39:49,430 doctors and researchers. 773 00:39:49,561 --> 00:39:53,042 What happened as a result of our persistence was the first 774 00:39:53,173 --> 00:39:57,960 patient package insert of a prescription medication. 775 00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:00,485 What we had envisioned in the beginning with something 776 00:40:00,615 --> 00:40:02,791 that would be on the back of the pill packet 777 00:40:02,922 --> 00:40:08,884 and give six warning signs, not such a long, lengthy thing. 778 00:40:09,015 --> 00:40:10,712 But we didn't win. 779 00:40:10,843 --> 00:40:12,540 The lawyers got a hold of it. 780 00:40:12,671 --> 00:40:13,715 A good way to put it. 781 00:40:13,846 --> 00:40:17,240 The lawyers got a hold of it, yes. 782 00:40:17,371 --> 00:40:19,678 Ultimately, there was a win for the feminist health 783 00:40:19,808 --> 00:40:21,941 movement in that we got labeling. 784 00:40:22,071 --> 00:40:24,726 And that was copied throughout the industry. 785 00:40:24,857 --> 00:40:26,685 We didn't really have drug labels 786 00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:30,036 with all that fine print telling us what the possible side 787 00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:32,299 effects might be. 788 00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,693 But the label that they went with really 789 00:40:34,823 --> 00:40:38,261 focused on blood clots and left everything else off 790 00:40:38,392 --> 00:40:39,480 of that fine print. 791 00:40:45,965 --> 00:40:48,881 At this clinic in Washington and clinics like it all over 792 00:40:49,011 --> 00:40:52,188 the country, millions of women started taking the pill 793 00:40:52,319 --> 00:40:54,974 and they had unprecedented freedom from unwanted 794 00:40:55,104 --> 00:40:55,888 pregnancies. 795 00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:10,555 This is the symbolic representation of state 796 00:41:10,685 --> 00:41:14,646 government intervention, not just have you had your pill, 797 00:41:14,776 --> 00:41:17,910 but everything that the birth control pill conotates 798 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,522 and represents for an urban population. 799 00:41:26,005 --> 00:41:28,181 The relationship between medicine, particularly 800 00:41:28,311 --> 00:41:30,575 reproductive medicine, and women's bodies 801 00:41:30,705 --> 00:41:36,145 is a long and complicated, oftentimes troubling history. 802 00:41:36,276 --> 00:41:39,758 Historically, Black enslaved women were used 803 00:41:39,888 --> 00:41:45,764 for experimentation to move ahead modern gynecology that we 804 00:41:45,894 --> 00:41:47,287 see today. 805 00:41:47,417 --> 00:41:50,290 They had these slave hospitals where they would 806 00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:54,294 treat the pathologies of Black women so they could save 807 00:41:54,424 --> 00:41:55,991 the lives of white women. 808 00:41:56,122 --> 00:41:59,342 And so by the time you move from the late 19th century 809 00:41:59,473 --> 00:42:05,827 to the mid 20th century, you have doctors who are getting 810 00:42:05,958 --> 00:42:10,484 the OK from the government to be able to perform surgeries that 811 00:42:10,615 --> 00:42:14,053 essentially sterilize Black women. 812 00:42:14,183 --> 00:42:17,709 In the South, Civil Rights leader Fannie Lou Hamer 813 00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:22,017 talked about being a young woman in the 1950s 814 00:42:22,148 --> 00:42:23,889 and going in for a procedure. 815 00:42:24,019 --> 00:42:25,368 And, all of a sudden, she finds out 816 00:42:25,499 --> 00:42:28,023 she has a Mississippi appendectomy. 817 00:42:28,154 --> 00:42:31,157 She was essentially sterilized by the doctor, 818 00:42:31,287 --> 00:42:33,986 who had never told her. 819 00:42:34,116 --> 00:42:36,684 She was told she was having the tubes tied and that she 820 00:42:36,815 --> 00:42:39,208 could have undone whatever she wanted. 821 00:42:39,339 --> 00:42:41,080 She asked to have the undone. 822 00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:43,604 And now they told her that her tube, it was not tied. 823 00:42:43,735 --> 00:42:46,781 It was clipped, which gives her a lesser possibility of her 824 00:42:46,912 --> 00:42:48,566 ever becoming pregnant. 825 00:42:48,696 --> 00:42:50,829 I think it's wrong for anyone to go into these things without 826 00:42:50,959 --> 00:42:53,396 fully knowing what the possibilities. 827 00:42:53,527 --> 00:42:56,443 So I think that people try to make you pay for being poor 828 00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:58,663 and make you pay for being glad and then-- 829 00:42:58,793 --> 00:43:02,101 And being a woman. 830 00:43:02,231 --> 00:43:05,408 As women of color, our fertility has always been 831 00:43:05,539 --> 00:43:06,409 managed. 832 00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:07,933 It's always been fear based. 833 00:43:08,063 --> 00:43:12,851 We had Indigenous women that were also sterilized. 834 00:43:12,981 --> 00:43:15,331 In the '60s in Los Angeles, there 835 00:43:15,462 --> 00:43:18,117 were immigrant Mexican women that were also 836 00:43:18,247 --> 00:43:20,598 sterilized at the USC center. 837 00:43:20,728 --> 00:43:26,255 So we see these different cases being repeated. 838 00:43:26,386 --> 00:43:30,477 By the '80s and the '90s, all of a sudden in places like 839 00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:34,568 Harlem, in places like Detroit, you start to see that Black 840 00:43:34,699 --> 00:43:38,485 women who receive aid from the government being told, 841 00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:41,227 you can't live in government housing anymore. 842 00:43:41,357 --> 00:43:43,751 We are not going to give you food stamps for you 843 00:43:43,882 --> 00:43:46,101 and your children unless you agree 844 00:43:46,232 --> 00:43:49,975 to get on a LARC, long-acting contraceptive. 845 00:43:50,105 --> 00:43:52,368 And so all of a sudden, you have these women 846 00:43:52,499 --> 00:43:54,457 who have Norplant implanted. 847 00:43:54,588 --> 00:43:56,677 And they're suffering the consequences 848 00:43:56,808 --> 00:43:58,548 of these side effects. 849 00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:01,856 And they don't know how to take the implants out. 850 00:44:01,987 --> 00:44:04,076 Here you have women who are, essentially, once again, 851 00:44:04,206 --> 00:44:06,034 being used as guinea pigs. 852 00:44:06,165 --> 00:44:11,300 And so although they've been informed, 853 00:44:11,431 --> 00:44:13,868 what's the actual choice when someone's 854 00:44:13,999 --> 00:44:16,697 telling you that your economic livelihood is 855 00:44:16,828 --> 00:44:18,177 going to be affected? 856 00:44:18,307 --> 00:44:20,005 It turns them off from getting health care. 857 00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:21,746 It does. 858 00:44:21,876 --> 00:44:23,182 If you need health care, you don't even want to go get it 859 00:44:23,312 --> 00:44:25,053 if you have to go through all those hassles. 860 00:44:25,184 --> 00:44:28,709 I have to be pushed by my mother to go because I refused. 861 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,363 I mean, I really refused to go over 862 00:44:30,493 --> 00:44:33,583 there and be hassled and looked upon like I'm nobody. 863 00:44:33,714 --> 00:44:35,107 I am somebody. 864 00:44:35,237 --> 00:44:36,804 I may not have that much money, but I am somebody. 865 00:44:36,935 --> 00:44:37,587 I'm me. 866 00:44:37,718 --> 00:44:40,329 That's right. 867 00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:42,288 I think that wound is still around. 868 00:44:46,335 --> 00:44:49,338 I think the wound is still actually being scraped over 869 00:44:49,469 --> 00:44:53,081 as newer and newer and newer iterations of contraception 870 00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:53,995 come about. 871 00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:58,783 Oh, hey. 872 00:44:58,913 --> 00:45:00,436 Did I tell you? 873 00:45:00,567 --> 00:45:02,308 My doctor told me about this new low-dose birth control 874 00:45:02,438 --> 00:45:03,962 pill called Yaz. 875 00:45:04,092 --> 00:45:07,052 Yaz was the first oral contraceptive to win FDA 876 00:45:07,182 --> 00:45:11,186 approval not just for preventing pregnancy but for treating acne 877 00:45:11,317 --> 00:45:13,841 and the severe premenstrual symptoms. 878 00:45:13,972 --> 00:45:15,756 Yaz can also help when it comes to that time 879 00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:17,497 of the month. 880 00:45:17,627 --> 00:45:21,631 What's unique about Yaz is that this was the first time 881 00:45:21,762 --> 00:45:23,982 that commercials stepped onto the scene, 882 00:45:24,112 --> 00:45:27,333 promising us better health beyond just controlling 883 00:45:27,463 --> 00:45:29,074 your reproductive health. 884 00:45:29,204 --> 00:45:31,424 This hormonal birth control could solve all your lady part 885 00:45:31,554 --> 00:45:33,165 problems. 886 00:45:33,295 --> 00:45:34,993 Proven to treat the emotional and physical premenstrual 887 00:45:35,123 --> 00:45:36,777 symptoms that are severe. 888 00:45:36,908 --> 00:45:39,214 But the ads actually promised much more than what the FDA had 889 00:45:39,345 --> 00:45:40,128 approved it for. 890 00:45:42,827 --> 00:45:47,092 It started the summer she came home from college. 891 00:45:47,222 --> 00:45:51,574 We took her to my gynecologist to discuss birth control 892 00:45:51,705 --> 00:45:53,925 options. 893 00:45:54,055 --> 00:45:55,709 She said she put me on the new pill. 894 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,408 And this is going to be great because not only is 895 00:45:59,539 --> 00:46:01,759 this protection against pregnancy, 896 00:46:01,889 --> 00:46:05,893 but it's going to prevent against PMS. 897 00:46:06,024 --> 00:46:09,027 And it's going to help with my acne. 898 00:46:09,157 --> 00:46:13,248 This was the miracle pill. 899 00:46:13,379 --> 00:46:17,339 She was returning with her groceries, 900 00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:21,039 walking up to the third floor of her apartment building. 901 00:46:21,169 --> 00:46:24,477 She collapsed on the second floor level. 902 00:46:24,607 --> 00:46:28,916 A very large clot had broken loose somewhere from her lower 903 00:46:29,047 --> 00:46:33,225 extremities and had gone to her heart. 904 00:46:33,355 --> 00:46:36,968 You ask yourself, why does something like this happen? 905 00:46:37,098 --> 00:46:38,839 And we spoke with our friends who 906 00:46:38,970 --> 00:46:41,233 we were staying with whose sister happened 907 00:46:41,363 --> 00:46:43,191 to be a physician. 908 00:46:43,322 --> 00:46:47,152 The first thing she said to us was, was she on Yaz? 909 00:46:47,282 --> 00:46:48,327 And we said no. 910 00:46:48,457 --> 00:46:50,372 She wasn't on Yaz. 911 00:46:50,503 --> 00:46:54,724 But we found out that Loryna was a generic version of Yaz. 912 00:46:58,990 --> 00:47:02,297 The problem is that it's the fourth-generation progesterone 913 00:47:02,428 --> 00:47:03,951 called drospirenone. 914 00:47:04,082 --> 00:47:06,867 And drospirenone, for some reason, 915 00:47:06,998 --> 00:47:09,652 has a much higher risk for a blood clot 916 00:47:09,783 --> 00:47:12,220 and stroke and pulmonary embolism 917 00:47:12,351 --> 00:47:15,745 than the previous generation pills. 918 00:47:15,876 --> 00:47:19,445 The earlier generations went off patent. 919 00:47:19,575 --> 00:47:22,796 So there wasn't a lot of money to be made there. 920 00:47:22,927 --> 00:47:27,148 If they came out with a new generation, a new progestin, 921 00:47:27,279 --> 00:47:29,063 that was considered a brand drug. 922 00:47:29,194 --> 00:47:30,891 It was not a generic drug. 923 00:47:31,022 --> 00:47:32,937 They would then have patent protection. 924 00:47:33,067 --> 00:47:36,288 And they could then charge more so that the company could say, 925 00:47:36,418 --> 00:47:38,812 I have something better. 926 00:47:38,943 --> 00:47:43,512 But better doesn't always mean that it's safer. 927 00:47:43,643 --> 00:47:47,560 The FDA approves drugs only for a short period of time, 928 00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:50,171 like six weeks for acute use of the drug. 929 00:47:50,302 --> 00:47:54,349 And it's up to the manufacturer to report 930 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,525 any adverse reactions. 931 00:47:56,656 --> 00:47:59,920 So what manufacturer who's making billions of dollars 932 00:48:00,051 --> 00:48:05,360 has any incentive to report an adverse reaction? 933 00:48:05,491 --> 00:48:07,710 65% of a pharmaceutical company's budget is 934 00:48:07,841 --> 00:48:09,147 on advertising. 935 00:48:09,277 --> 00:48:10,365 It's on marketing. 936 00:48:10,496 --> 00:48:12,454 It's not on research and development. 937 00:48:12,585 --> 00:48:14,674 It's not on safety studies. 938 00:48:14,804 --> 00:48:17,242 Who says all birth control pills have to be the same? 939 00:48:17,372 --> 00:48:18,939 Who says? 940 00:48:19,070 --> 00:48:20,636 And that's usually where the problem is happening. 941 00:48:20,767 --> 00:48:22,638 I mean, it's at that level of the pharmaceutical industry 942 00:48:22,769 --> 00:48:24,423 of let's ignore the risks. 943 00:48:24,553 --> 00:48:26,555 Let's give women what they want or think they want. 944 00:48:26,686 --> 00:48:28,688 Or let's sell them something that they might not even 945 00:48:28,818 --> 00:48:30,211 know they want or need. 946 00:48:30,342 --> 00:48:31,909 It's all about the bottom line. 947 00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:34,650 It's one of the most popular pills on the market today. 948 00:48:34,781 --> 00:48:36,696 But our reporting suggests that using it 949 00:48:36,826 --> 00:48:39,133 can increase the risk of dangerous side effects 950 00:48:39,264 --> 00:48:40,874 that may even cause death. 951 00:48:41,005 --> 00:48:43,616 Research shows the pills are linked with a higher risk 952 00:48:43,746 --> 00:48:45,096 for blood clots. 953 00:48:45,226 --> 00:48:47,707 So the FDA is stepping in, holding a hearing 954 00:48:47,837 --> 00:48:51,363 to talk about these health concerns. 955 00:48:51,493 --> 00:48:55,541 The twofold increase in risk for venous thromboembolism 956 00:48:55,671 --> 00:49:02,591 in drospirenone is deemed an acceptable risk and has been 957 00:49:02,722 --> 00:49:05,986 deemed an acceptable risk in the past. 958 00:49:06,117 --> 00:49:09,163 Planned Parenthood was speaking in favor of keeping 959 00:49:09,294 --> 00:49:13,167 the products on the market because of this notion that 960 00:49:13,298 --> 00:49:16,649 the more options we have, the better. 961 00:49:16,779 --> 00:49:22,002 But why is our risk tolerance so high for something 962 00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:25,223 that is preventive, that is going to impact, 963 00:49:25,353 --> 00:49:29,531 for all intents and purposes, healthy individuals? 964 00:49:29,662 --> 00:49:31,446 Our daughter died from Yaz. 965 00:49:31,577 --> 00:49:33,796 Study after study, including the FDA study, 966 00:49:33,927 --> 00:49:36,582 have shown for years that DSRP kills and seriously harms 967 00:49:36,712 --> 00:49:39,106 significantly more women than other birth control pills. 968 00:49:41,804 --> 00:49:44,677 Internal company documents stated there was an increased 969 00:49:44,807 --> 00:49:46,461 risk of blood clots. 970 00:49:46,592 --> 00:49:50,639 But that statement was not passed on to the FDA. 971 00:49:50,770 --> 00:49:53,729 They downplayed the bad news that showed safety problems 972 00:49:53,860 --> 00:49:56,167 and highlighted the good news. 973 00:49:56,297 --> 00:49:59,039 And in my opinion, what made this problematic 974 00:49:59,170 --> 00:50:01,215 was that they marketed the drug saying 975 00:50:01,346 --> 00:50:04,436 that it worked for PMS without the evidence, 976 00:50:04,566 --> 00:50:06,699 thereby convincing women to switch 977 00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:10,311 to a potentially more dangerous and more expensive drug. 978 00:50:10,442 --> 00:50:13,140 Had all this information come to my desk, 979 00:50:13,271 --> 00:50:16,970 I do not think that I would have approved this drug. 980 00:50:17,101 --> 00:50:19,190 The Kessler report was not allowed to be given 981 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,890 to the panel based on a technicality. 982 00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:27,981 After testimony, the panel voted 15 to 11 983 00:50:28,112 --> 00:50:30,984 to keep the products on the market. 984 00:50:31,115 --> 00:50:33,726 It was later revealed that 4 out of the 15 panelists 985 00:50:33,856 --> 00:50:38,992 who voted Yes had ties to Bayer that they hadn't disclosed. 986 00:50:39,123 --> 00:50:40,515 We used to believe in the FDA. 987 00:50:40,646 --> 00:50:42,300 We used to. 988 00:50:42,430 --> 00:50:44,693 But we don't anymore. 989 00:50:44,824 --> 00:50:46,217 The more we learn about it, the more 990 00:50:46,347 --> 00:50:48,306 we realize that the drug companies 991 00:50:48,436 --> 00:50:51,222 pay to get their drugs through. 992 00:50:51,352 --> 00:50:53,267 They have one interest in mind. 993 00:50:53,398 --> 00:50:56,140 And that is making money. 994 00:50:56,270 --> 00:50:59,795 Bayer had put aside money to cover 995 00:50:59,926 --> 00:51:02,450 the costs of the litigation in the United States. 996 00:51:02,581 --> 00:51:06,454 And the settlements that they had expected, over $500 million 997 00:51:06,585 --> 00:51:07,890 in order to cover that. 998 00:51:08,021 --> 00:51:09,979 And the result of that was their stockholders 999 00:51:10,110 --> 00:51:11,807 said, yeah, you got it covered. 1000 00:51:11,938 --> 00:51:13,374 Your stocks went up. 1001 00:51:13,505 --> 00:51:15,811 And so the question is, is the FDA 1002 00:51:15,942 --> 00:51:18,597 promoting the safety of the American people or 1003 00:51:18,727 --> 00:51:22,470 are they promoting the safety of drug company and medical device 1004 00:51:22,601 --> 00:51:23,341 company profits? 1005 00:51:27,693 --> 00:51:29,912 Now, chances are you've quickly skimmed the warning 1006 00:51:30,043 --> 00:51:32,567 label of potential side effects without thinking about it that 1007 00:51:32,698 --> 00:51:33,960 much. 1008 00:51:34,091 --> 00:51:35,875 But in the case of 22-year-old Brittany, 1009 00:51:36,005 --> 00:51:39,835 that warning label became a tragic reality. 1010 00:51:39,966 --> 00:51:42,447 Nothing will ever fill that void. 1011 00:51:42,577 --> 00:51:44,188 I understand that. 1012 00:51:44,318 --> 00:51:47,408 And I know that NuvaRing came out and offered a settlement 1013 00:51:47,539 --> 00:51:50,107 with families that have been hurt by this. 1014 00:51:50,237 --> 00:51:53,458 What's your involvement in the NuvaRing lawsuit? 1015 00:51:53,588 --> 00:51:54,937 We don't want their money. 1016 00:51:55,068 --> 00:51:56,504 We want them to do what's right. 1017 00:51:56,635 --> 00:52:00,639 We want them to fully disclose the risks associated 1018 00:52:00,769 --> 00:52:02,119 with this product. 1019 00:52:02,249 --> 00:52:04,469 The FDA told us, "Based on the FDA's review, 1020 00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:06,993 which included several studies looking at the blood clot risk 1021 00:52:07,124 --> 00:52:10,170 associated with NuvaRing, we believe that the current label 1022 00:52:10,301 --> 00:52:12,694 appropriately addresses this risk and includes information 1023 00:52:12,825 --> 00:52:15,132 about the product that will allow patients and health-care 1024 00:52:15,262 --> 00:52:18,744 professionals to make an informed medical decision." 1025 00:52:21,747 --> 00:52:23,270 I'm going to have to find it for you. 1026 00:52:23,401 --> 00:52:25,359 But it's just a tiny-- 1027 00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:26,795 Can we stop for a minute? 1028 00:52:26,926 --> 00:52:27,666 Oh, OK. 1029 00:52:27,796 --> 00:52:29,276 It doesn't matter. 1030 00:52:29,407 --> 00:52:31,409 OK, because it's going to take me a bit to-- 1031 00:52:38,894 --> 00:52:41,636 Who would read that? 1032 00:52:41,767 --> 00:52:43,247 It's probably not bad if you do keep 1033 00:52:43,377 --> 00:52:45,162 rolling because you'll see how freakin' 1034 00:52:45,292 --> 00:52:48,904 long it takes to look through all this stuff. 1035 00:52:49,035 --> 00:52:54,345 It talks about if you smoke may be associated with a higher 1036 00:52:54,475 --> 00:52:59,437 risk of venous thromboembolism, VTE, 1037 00:52:59,567 --> 00:53:06,357 than COCs containing the progestin thevo-- 1038 00:53:06,487 --> 00:53:08,054 I can't even understand this. 1039 00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:11,927 I understand what it's saying now because it's happened. 1040 00:53:12,058 --> 00:53:15,322 This needs to have a big old label right on the front. 1041 00:53:15,453 --> 00:53:19,021 Like cigarettes say "this can kill you," 1042 00:53:19,152 --> 00:53:21,633 this needs to say the same thing. 1043 00:53:21,763 --> 00:53:24,462 One popular birth control method is being blamed by some 1044 00:53:24,592 --> 00:53:28,248 families in a lawsuit for the deaths of loved ones. 1045 00:53:28,379 --> 00:53:31,469 Merck has agreed to pay out $100 million to the many 1046 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:32,905 plaintiffs. 1047 00:53:33,035 --> 00:53:35,647 But Langhart's family is refusing the offer. 1048 00:53:35,777 --> 00:53:38,084 They are pushing for a black box warning, 1049 00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:41,435 which means you could die from using it. 1050 00:53:41,566 --> 00:53:43,872 The FDA doesn't think it is necessary. 1051 00:53:46,527 --> 00:53:49,138 If we can have a few minutes for questions, 1052 00:53:49,269 --> 00:53:52,098 so why don't we just kind of go back and forth and we'll start. 1053 00:53:52,229 --> 00:53:54,274 And if you could say your name and where you're from, 1054 00:53:54,405 --> 00:53:55,101 that would be great. 1055 00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:56,581 Thanks. 1056 00:53:56,711 --> 00:53:58,147 Karen Langhart. 1057 00:53:58,278 --> 00:54:00,933 Together with a growing, unfortunately, 1058 00:54:01,063 --> 00:54:05,503 number of parents, the question we have for you is this. 1059 00:54:05,633 --> 00:54:08,854 If your daughter died as a result of pulmonary embolisms, 1060 00:54:08,984 --> 00:54:13,337 stroke, or heart attack because of the NuvaRing, 1061 00:54:13,467 --> 00:54:15,469 would you still consider this drug 1062 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,691 as having an acceptable risk factor, and especially 1063 00:54:19,821 --> 00:54:23,695 and particularly when there are safer and more effective 1064 00:54:23,825 --> 00:54:27,612 alternative options for birth control? 1065 00:54:31,833 --> 00:54:37,230 Well, first of all, I want to express our most sincere 1066 00:54:37,361 --> 00:54:41,234 sympathy for the loss of a child. 1067 00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:43,671 I can only imagine how difficult that is. 1068 00:54:43,802 --> 00:54:44,716 You can't, actually. 1069 00:54:47,371 --> 00:54:54,856 Well, NuvaRing is like all hormonal-containing 1070 00:54:54,987 --> 00:54:56,771 contraceptives. 1071 00:54:56,902 --> 00:55:03,387 And it was labeled with warnings about thrombophlebitis 1072 00:55:03,517 --> 00:55:08,217 and pulmonary embolism, as is the whole category. 1073 00:55:08,348 --> 00:55:10,959 This has been known for a long time. 1074 00:55:11,090 --> 00:55:14,789 And we feel that the drug has been labeled-- 1075 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,706 was labeled appropriately. 1076 00:55:34,722 --> 00:55:39,248 This is not a ridiculous low risk. 1077 00:55:39,379 --> 00:55:43,601 If people knew that, how many would put their daughter 1078 00:55:43,731 --> 00:55:47,648 on a pill if she had 2% risk of getting 1079 00:55:47,779 --> 00:55:50,390 a thrombosis in 10 years? 1080 00:55:50,521 --> 00:55:55,656 The drug companies push the statistic that says that these 1081 00:55:55,787 --> 00:55:59,356 types of drugs are safer than pregnancy. 1082 00:55:59,486 --> 00:56:01,880 That in itself is a huge problem. 1083 00:56:02,010 --> 00:56:04,926 What they ought to be using is the comparison 1084 00:56:05,057 --> 00:56:10,367 between these types of drugs and other forms of birth control 1085 00:56:10,497 --> 00:56:13,674 because there are safer forms of birth control 1086 00:56:13,805 --> 00:56:16,851 than these third-generation hormonal-based birth control 1087 00:56:16,982 --> 00:56:17,896 pills. 1088 00:56:18,026 --> 00:56:20,115 And I think that's a crime. 1089 00:56:31,518 --> 00:56:34,782 When is a product so risky that it really shouldn't be 1090 00:56:34,913 --> 00:56:35,914 an option? 1091 00:56:36,044 --> 00:56:37,785 Birth control is here to stay. 1092 00:56:37,916 --> 00:56:40,397 Happy birthday ACA. 1093 00:56:40,527 --> 00:56:43,574 The left will not consider the possibility that there are 1094 00:56:43,704 --> 00:56:46,707 any dangers associated with hormonal contraceptives 1095 00:56:46,838 --> 00:56:51,103 because it damages the push for reproductive access 1096 00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:52,583 and reproductive care. 1097 00:56:52,713 --> 00:56:53,758 And that's important. 1098 00:56:53,888 --> 00:56:55,194 Women should have that. 1099 00:56:55,324 --> 00:56:56,674 But women are dying. 1100 00:56:56,804 --> 00:56:58,632 And I think women are smart enough. 1101 00:56:58,763 --> 00:57:00,765 If you gave them the information, 1102 00:57:00,895 --> 00:57:02,680 they'd say yes or no. 1103 00:57:02,810 --> 00:57:05,596 I still haven't heard a response about the Yaz drug 1104 00:57:05,726 --> 00:57:08,642 or about NuvaRing and about how it's wrecking women's bodies 1105 00:57:08,773 --> 00:57:11,123 by putting synthetic hormones in them that men, by the way, 1106 00:57:11,253 --> 00:57:12,690 don't want to take, right? 1107 00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:14,735 But by the same token, the right comes along 1108 00:57:14,866 --> 00:57:18,609 because they're so against reproductive access that 1109 00:57:18,739 --> 00:57:22,351 if the left says anything, the right takes it and warps it. 1110 00:57:22,482 --> 00:57:25,137 And you have this continual escalation 1111 00:57:25,267 --> 00:57:28,357 of no one talking about what needs to be talked about 1112 00:57:28,488 --> 00:57:30,534 and everybody entrenched in their own sides. 1113 00:57:30,664 --> 00:57:33,885 I hear from Lila and people like Lila that their ultimate 1114 00:57:34,015 --> 00:57:36,844 intent is to actually decrease the number of abortions. 1115 00:57:36,975 --> 00:57:38,890 And yet we're blocking all of the things 1116 00:57:39,020 --> 00:57:42,154 that we know actually do allow women 1117 00:57:42,284 --> 00:57:44,025 to make informed choices on the front end 1118 00:57:44,156 --> 00:57:45,984 and prevent unintended pregnancies. 1119 00:57:46,114 --> 00:57:49,988 And so by maintaining that fight, 1120 00:57:50,118 --> 00:57:55,472 it puts a veil over what can be known or talked about in that 1121 00:57:55,602 --> 00:57:56,951 space. 1122 00:58:02,217 --> 00:58:04,655 We can bring more chairs over here, more of these chairs. 1123 00:58:09,355 --> 00:58:11,531 So we're The Fifth Vital Sign, Emily and I. 1124 00:58:11,662 --> 00:58:14,142 And we've been traveling for six weeks now. 1125 00:58:14,273 --> 00:58:15,448 We have another six weeks to go. 1126 00:58:15,579 --> 00:58:16,231 And we're-- 1127 00:58:16,362 --> 00:58:17,145 Somewhere. 1128 00:58:20,235 --> 00:58:24,239 We're teaching these free reproductive health classes 1129 00:58:24,370 --> 00:58:28,722 in 63 locations, over 63 locations along the way. 1130 00:58:28,853 --> 00:58:31,551 And our mission is to use education 1131 00:58:31,682 --> 00:58:34,206 as preventative care, encouraging informed decision 1132 00:58:34,336 --> 00:58:36,121 making and body literacy. 1133 00:58:39,298 --> 00:58:41,692 I just want to really focus on the way that we teach 1134 00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:43,781 fertility awareness method because it's so secular. 1135 00:58:43,911 --> 00:58:46,435 And then I want to focus on the informed choice 1136 00:58:46,566 --> 00:58:51,223 aspect as a toolkit and then bring in these things. 1137 00:58:54,879 --> 00:58:57,316 Continue on I-10 East for 10 miles. 1138 00:58:57,446 --> 00:58:59,448 We've driven more than England already. 1139 00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:01,973 It's nuts. 1140 00:59:02,103 --> 00:59:04,976 We felt like we couldn't really speak about this stuff 1141 00:59:05,106 --> 00:59:08,283 unless we went to as many places as we could in this country 1142 00:59:08,414 --> 00:59:12,549 and heard what people were going through. 1143 00:59:12,679 --> 00:59:14,942 We would love if people left the classes with knowledge 1144 00:59:15,073 --> 00:59:16,117 about their menstrual cycles. 1145 00:59:16,248 --> 00:59:17,510 But the most important thing to us 1146 00:59:17,641 --> 00:59:19,207 is that people know that they have options. 1147 00:59:19,338 --> 00:59:21,775 We want to move away from fear-based education. 1148 00:59:21,906 --> 00:59:23,124 Oh yeah. 1149 00:59:23,255 --> 00:59:24,952 We could say, "We recommend body literacy. 1150 00:59:25,083 --> 00:59:26,432 We recommend knowing you're normal. 1151 00:59:26,563 --> 00:59:29,261 We recommend choosing what's right for you." 1152 00:59:29,391 --> 00:59:31,002 In a quarter mile, turn right on to-- 1153 00:59:31,132 --> 00:59:31,698 Yes. 1154 00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:32,743 Do you mind? 1155 00:59:32,873 --> 00:59:33,004 You can send it from my phone. 1156 00:59:39,140 --> 00:59:40,141 Every time. 1157 00:59:40,272 --> 00:59:43,188 Every time. 1158 00:59:43,318 --> 00:59:44,363 Thanks for having my back. 1159 00:59:44,493 --> 00:59:45,582 Hey. 1160 00:59:45,712 --> 00:59:48,759 Hi. 1161 00:59:48,889 --> 00:59:51,675 There's this idea that you can get pregnant any time. 1162 00:59:51,805 --> 00:59:54,678 Part of dispelling some of that fear and part of addressing it 1163 00:59:54,808 --> 00:59:57,463 is just looking at what's actually there. 1164 00:59:57,594 --> 01:00:00,248 So that kind of brings me to fertility awareness method. 1165 01:00:05,036 --> 01:00:08,648 The fertility awareness-based methods are observational. 1166 01:00:08,779 --> 01:00:10,432 They're based on what's actually happening 1167 01:00:10,563 --> 01:00:13,218 in your body in any given cycle. 1168 01:00:13,348 --> 01:00:15,568 It's sort of advanced sex ed. 1169 01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:17,004 How does my body work? 1170 01:00:17,135 --> 01:00:18,658 What is this stuff coming out of me? 1171 01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:20,486 How many days per month am I fertile? 1172 01:00:20,617 --> 01:00:22,749 How long does an egg live? 1173 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,186 Each and every morning, I take my temperature. 1174 01:00:25,317 --> 01:00:29,887 And I circle the temperature on this graph. 1175 01:00:30,017 --> 01:00:32,367 And we connect the dots. 1176 01:00:32,498 --> 01:00:37,459 When I do finally ovulate, my temperature spikes noticeably. 1177 01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:41,638 And that's one of the signs you're looking for. 1178 01:00:41,768 --> 01:00:45,598 You're also monitoring fluids that you're producing. 1179 01:00:45,729 --> 01:00:48,166 So everything should correlate when 1180 01:00:48,296 --> 01:00:50,255 you're plotting all this info. 1181 01:00:50,385 --> 01:00:53,388 It gives you a lot more control over your body 1182 01:00:53,519 --> 01:00:57,001 rather than relying on a big pharmaceutical company 1183 01:00:57,131 --> 01:01:00,700 for something to prevent pregnancy. 1184 01:01:00,831 --> 01:01:04,835 With perfect use, meaning if somebody would take 1185 01:01:04,965 --> 01:01:08,403 their temperature every day, check their cervix, 1186 01:01:08,534 --> 01:01:11,145 look at their cervical fluid every day and record it 1187 01:01:11,276 --> 01:01:14,975 perfectly, then it can be 99% accurate. 1188 01:01:15,106 --> 01:01:17,891 You're only fertile for four or five days, 1189 01:01:18,022 --> 01:01:21,416 six days out of 32-day cycle. 1190 01:01:21,547 --> 01:01:24,289 When I discovered that I can't get pregnant every single 1191 01:01:24,419 --> 01:01:26,900 day of my cycle, it totally blew my mind. 1192 01:01:27,031 --> 01:01:30,295 And I felt in my case, it really put the power in my hands. 1193 01:01:30,425 --> 01:01:34,995 To me, the most feminist approach to the conversation 1194 01:01:35,126 --> 01:01:38,825 around contraceptives period is options. 1195 01:01:38,956 --> 01:01:43,830 And I think if young women were learning about their cycles 1196 01:01:43,961 --> 01:01:47,834 not from a contraceptive lens but from an empowerment lens, 1197 01:01:47,965 --> 01:01:50,315 we could see a lot of different things happening. 1198 01:01:57,670 --> 01:02:03,415 This is a conference that is very, very long overdue. 1199 01:02:03,545 --> 01:02:04,938 There really is so much that needs 1200 01:02:05,069 --> 01:02:06,984 to be understood about contraceptives that we 1201 01:02:07,114 --> 01:02:09,987 could fill an entire week of lectures and discussions. 1202 01:02:10,117 --> 01:02:12,859 What I keep coming back to, however, is the notion 1203 01:02:12,990 --> 01:02:15,427 that if I can teach you how to think about hormones, 1204 01:02:15,557 --> 01:02:17,516 then each of you can find your own answers 1205 01:02:17,646 --> 01:02:20,084 and perhaps contribute back to the knowledge base 1206 01:02:20,214 --> 01:02:23,043 so that we can all have a better understanding of these issues. 1207 01:02:26,090 --> 01:02:27,004 Nice to meet you. 1208 01:02:27,134 --> 01:02:28,353 Thank you for coming. 1209 01:02:28,483 --> 01:02:31,008 Well, thank you for what your-- 1210 01:02:31,138 --> 01:02:32,661 your research is incredible. 1211 01:02:32,792 --> 01:02:34,402 Everything you do. 1212 01:02:34,533 --> 01:02:37,014 I highlighted more than I didn't highlight of the things 1213 01:02:37,144 --> 01:02:37,884 you-- 1214 01:02:38,015 --> 01:02:41,235 of the things you wrote. 1215 01:02:41,366 --> 01:02:43,760 This is the first time I have been to something 1216 01:02:43,890 --> 01:02:47,589 like this with other parents. 1217 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:53,160 People are beginning to hear it and beginning to understand it. 1218 01:02:53,291 --> 01:02:56,163 We've been collaborating with Karen and Rick and with Michael 1219 01:02:56,294 --> 01:03:00,037 and Jane Alexander to figure out, how do we spread the word? 1220 01:03:00,167 --> 01:03:01,952 It's going to be a very big challenge. 1221 01:03:02,082 --> 01:03:05,433 The system just protects the pharmaceuticals 1222 01:03:05,564 --> 01:03:09,263 so well that it's tough to get anything done. 1223 01:03:09,394 --> 01:03:13,659 To get anything in front of FDA is extremely difficult. 1224 01:03:13,790 --> 01:03:15,966 So we're just trying to figure out now 1225 01:03:16,096 --> 01:03:18,620 how we can make a difference. 1226 01:03:18,751 --> 01:03:21,449 So you see deaths, hospitalization, 1227 01:03:21,580 --> 01:03:23,800 and then the amount of prescriptions. 1228 01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:25,802 Yeah, I actually have some graphs. 1229 01:03:25,932 --> 01:03:27,542 But I just didn't include them here. 1230 01:03:27,673 --> 01:03:28,892 So I wanted to give-- 1231 01:03:29,022 --> 01:03:29,893 This is fantastic. 1232 01:03:30,023 --> 01:03:31,808 Just fact finding, right? 1233 01:03:31,938 --> 01:03:33,244 Yes, it's just digging through. 1234 01:03:33,374 --> 01:03:34,462 And this is stuff that should have been 1235 01:03:34,593 --> 01:03:35,507 readily available to anybody-- 1236 01:03:35,637 --> 01:03:36,943 Totally. 1237 01:03:37,074 --> 01:03:38,815 who looked and to all the physicians. 1238 01:03:38,945 --> 01:03:40,512 You should have seen how hard it was just to get this from 1239 01:03:40,642 --> 01:03:41,339 the FDA. 1240 01:03:41,469 --> 01:03:43,036 I understand it. 1241 01:03:43,167 --> 01:03:45,299 I want it to be validated by somebody that's credible 1242 01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:47,693 because the first thing that's going to happen if I publish 1243 01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,042 this, Joe is a grieving father. 1244 01:03:49,173 --> 01:03:50,261 He has no medical background. 1245 01:03:50,391 --> 01:03:51,697 They're going to do that anyway. 1246 01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:52,654 Piece of crap. 1247 01:03:52,785 --> 01:03:54,265 They'll do that anyway. 1248 01:03:54,395 --> 01:03:57,834 And they'll do that to whomever actually validates it. 1249 01:03:57,964 --> 01:04:01,881 If you have a $17 billion a year market already that's 1250 01:04:02,012 --> 01:04:06,755 out there using it regularly, why would you do any of this? 1251 01:04:06,886 --> 01:04:09,715 And so to get this information out there, 1252 01:04:09,846 --> 01:04:12,631 it really relies on folks like yourself. 1253 01:04:12,761 --> 01:04:15,939 We had a discussion last night about side effects. 1254 01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:19,507 And you said, your daughter didn't have any side effects. 1255 01:04:19,638 --> 01:04:23,207 That's what we thought until we started looking back 1256 01:04:23,337 --> 01:04:27,472 in time of how Brittany felt over the last couple of years. 1257 01:04:27,602 --> 01:04:31,737 And early-onset indicators were that she had migraines. 1258 01:04:31,868 --> 01:04:33,043 And we took her to the doctor. 1259 01:04:33,173 --> 01:04:36,089 And they gave her a decongestant. 1260 01:04:36,220 --> 01:04:39,049 And it wasn't until I spoke with somebody 1261 01:04:39,179 --> 01:04:41,268 at a contraceptive technology conference 1262 01:04:41,399 --> 01:04:42,835 that the doctor said, oh my gosh, 1263 01:04:42,966 --> 01:04:46,752 those are early warning signs that those hormones 1264 01:04:46,883 --> 01:04:48,319 don't agree with her. 1265 01:04:48,449 --> 01:04:51,322 Our daughter was complaining of some things that 1266 01:04:51,452 --> 01:04:54,760 in retrospect should have been warning signs. 1267 01:04:54,891 --> 01:04:55,848 And we didn't know. 1268 01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:57,284 She didn't know. 1269 01:04:57,415 --> 01:04:58,895 Why didn't we know this? 1270 01:04:59,025 --> 01:05:00,070 Why don't doctors know this? 1271 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,549 But the doctors don't know this. 1272 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,682 It's not until there's a death, I think, 1273 01:05:03,812 --> 01:05:05,292 that some of their eyes open. 1274 01:05:05,423 --> 01:05:07,512 You may not even see that because of the separation 1275 01:05:07,642 --> 01:05:09,383 of primary care with hospitalists. 1276 01:05:09,514 --> 01:05:11,908 So you may never have that feedback 1277 01:05:12,038 --> 01:05:15,041 to see that there was a death or a serious event 1278 01:05:15,172 --> 01:05:18,566 because it never gets back to them. 1279 01:05:38,891 --> 01:05:41,067 You know how some of the doctor's offices have these 1280 01:05:41,198 --> 01:05:43,765 screens, where they do little vignettes that roll? 1281 01:05:43,896 --> 01:05:46,638 And I thought, well, I wonder if there's an avenue. 1282 01:05:46,768 --> 01:05:48,292 You've got to capture audience. 1283 01:05:48,422 --> 01:05:51,208 Perhaps it's sitting in a doctor's office, 1284 01:05:51,338 --> 01:05:52,818 in a waiting room, has nothing to do 1285 01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:54,167 but look at their cell phone. 1286 01:05:54,298 --> 01:05:55,429 So what are the signs of a blood clot? 1287 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,822 What are the signs of a blood clot? 1288 01:05:56,953 --> 01:05:57,866 That's a great idea. 1289 01:05:57,997 --> 01:05:59,694 Is this a poster? 1290 01:05:59,825 --> 01:06:02,045 I see this potentially as a poster. 1291 01:06:02,175 --> 01:06:06,527 Or a handout that is given at a pharmacy or just given out 1292 01:06:06,658 --> 01:06:08,355 at a college. 1293 01:06:08,486 --> 01:06:10,183 The question is, is this enough to get 1294 01:06:10,314 --> 01:06:11,968 people's attention? 1295 01:06:12,098 --> 01:06:16,015 We use blood clot signs and symptoms in our presentation. 1296 01:06:16,146 --> 01:06:18,800 And we don't address doctors. 1297 01:06:18,931 --> 01:06:20,324 We address women directly. 1298 01:06:20,454 --> 01:06:22,630 And then we really focus on the idea of friendship 1299 01:06:22,761 --> 01:06:26,373 because that's where women make these kinds of decisions. 1300 01:06:26,504 --> 01:06:29,594 And I think this will be best presented as a short Instagram 1301 01:06:29,724 --> 01:06:30,595 post. 1302 01:06:30,725 --> 01:06:31,988 I want to get there first. 1303 01:06:32,118 --> 01:06:33,641 I want to talk about this stuff before there 1304 01:06:33,772 --> 01:06:36,340 at the doctor's office because I'm trying to win at this. 1305 01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:37,863 I'm serious. 1306 01:06:37,994 --> 01:06:41,388 What's happened to your kids can't happen anymore. 1307 01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:44,000 I think the reason that The Fifth Vital Sign has been 1308 01:06:44,130 --> 01:06:47,525 successful is because they eliminate that barrier. 1309 01:06:47,655 --> 01:06:49,918 They just go out and do it. 1310 01:06:50,049 --> 01:06:52,573 This whole system is not called the uterus, right? 1311 01:06:52,704 --> 01:06:53,966 This part is the uterus. 1312 01:06:54,097 --> 01:06:55,794 But there's also the fallopian tubes. 1313 01:06:55,924 --> 01:06:57,404 There's also the ovaries. 1314 01:07:00,059 --> 01:07:01,974 This is a nonmenstruating uterus. 1315 01:07:02,105 --> 01:07:03,889 And this is a menstruating uterus. 1316 01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:05,760 And it doubles in weight. 1317 01:07:05,891 --> 01:07:06,544 Dental dam. 1318 01:07:06,674 --> 01:07:07,371 Dental dam. 1319 01:07:07,501 --> 01:07:09,025 Dental dam. 1320 01:07:09,155 --> 01:07:10,591 I've used those before. 1321 01:07:12,289 --> 01:07:14,987 It's called dental dam because they use that-- 1322 01:07:15,118 --> 01:07:15,944 in dental surgery. 1323 01:07:16,075 --> 01:07:17,033 in dental surgery. 1324 01:07:17,163 --> 01:07:19,078 Oh, true, true. 1325 01:07:19,209 --> 01:07:21,080 I thought we were getting some gossip. 1326 01:07:21,211 --> 01:07:24,692 Worth the copay, for sure. 1327 01:07:24,823 --> 01:07:26,868 So now you know each other a little bit better. 1328 01:07:29,871 --> 01:07:32,222 I think we need to trust and leverage the knowledge 1329 01:07:32,352 --> 01:07:34,789 and wisdom of the younger generation. 1330 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,924 So hats off to whatever you're doing and how you do it. 1331 01:07:39,055 --> 01:07:41,013 There's power in aligning our messages. 1332 01:07:41,144 --> 01:07:43,233 As you guys have said, if we all start 1333 01:07:43,363 --> 01:07:45,365 using each other's methods, everybody's 1334 01:07:45,496 --> 01:07:47,585 got their own little niche. 1335 01:07:47,715 --> 01:07:49,108 Start leveraging. 1336 01:07:59,510 --> 01:08:03,296 I think that lots of women have relatively little 1337 01:08:03,427 --> 01:08:05,864 information about their bodies. 1338 01:08:05,994 --> 01:08:08,780 When we take ownership, we allow ourselves 1339 01:08:08,910 --> 01:08:14,481 to give consent in a totally whole and informed way. 1340 01:08:14,612 --> 01:08:17,876 Yeah, OK, where's the flashlight? 1341 01:08:18,006 --> 01:08:21,184 Why don't you hold it when you're looking at-- 1342 01:08:21,314 --> 01:08:25,579 The feminist health movement of the 1970s was very skeptical 1343 01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:27,625 of the pharmaceutical industry. 1344 01:08:27,755 --> 01:08:31,063 And it was very curious and interested 1345 01:08:31,194 --> 01:08:33,326 in female physiology. 1346 01:08:33,457 --> 01:08:35,067 And then we had Roe v. Wade. 1347 01:08:35,198 --> 01:08:39,419 And the energy of the mainstream women's movement 1348 01:08:39,550 --> 01:08:43,597 really turned away from the body and toward women 1349 01:08:43,728 --> 01:08:45,251 getting power in society. 1350 01:08:54,304 --> 01:08:56,523 The idea was, let's stop playing doctor 1351 01:08:56,654 --> 01:09:00,048 and let's become doctors. 1352 01:09:00,179 --> 01:09:02,964 Most OB-GYNS are women now. 1353 01:09:03,095 --> 01:09:05,924 But when you look at reproductive health in the US, 1354 01:09:06,054 --> 01:09:08,448 we're actually falling behind. 1355 01:09:08,579 --> 01:09:13,061 We're still in the dark ages in a lot of ways 1356 01:09:13,192 --> 01:09:17,414 in supporting women in childbirth 1357 01:09:17,544 --> 01:09:21,679 and in keeping women healthy through menopause. 1358 01:09:21,809 --> 01:09:24,508 It's a very left-brain patriarchal medical system that 1359 01:09:24,638 --> 01:09:27,641 we were taught about in school, very pharmaceutical-based, 1360 01:09:27,772 --> 01:09:29,382 very science-based. 1361 01:09:29,513 --> 01:09:32,080 And I feel like a lot of us missed the boat on women's 1362 01:09:32,211 --> 01:09:34,648 health as medical doctors. 1363 01:09:34,779 --> 01:09:36,302 In seven years of medical training, 1364 01:09:36,433 --> 01:09:39,697 I had not one single moment of anyone ever saying, 1365 01:09:39,827 --> 01:09:42,961 and when you educate women about the pill, 1366 01:09:43,091 --> 01:09:44,876 you need to tell them this or tell them that. 1367 01:09:45,006 --> 01:09:47,792 The problem is not the individual doctor. 1368 01:09:47,922 --> 01:09:50,534 It's actually being steeped in a system that 1369 01:09:50,664 --> 01:09:52,927 has been misogynistic from day one, 1370 01:09:53,058 --> 01:09:57,584 where a concept of hysteria or hypochondria, 1371 01:09:57,715 --> 01:09:59,543 which is completely attributed to women, 1372 01:09:59,673 --> 01:10:04,025 has led to women largely being invisible and dismissed. 1373 01:10:04,156 --> 01:10:09,509 For me, it's how do we change the field around the fictions 1374 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,599 of gender and sex and race and class, 1375 01:10:12,730 --> 01:10:15,254 no matter whose neck the stethoscope is around? 1376 01:10:25,308 --> 01:10:26,004 Hello. 1377 01:10:26,134 --> 01:10:26,700 Good morning. 1378 01:10:26,831 --> 01:10:27,440 Good morning. 1379 01:10:27,571 --> 01:10:28,136 Welcome to TF. 1380 01:10:28,267 --> 01:10:29,137 Thank you. 1381 01:10:29,268 --> 01:10:29,660 How are you doing today? 1382 01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:30,356 Well. 1383 01:10:30,487 --> 01:10:30,878 How are you? 1384 01:10:31,009 --> 01:10:32,184 Good. 1385 01:10:32,315 --> 01:10:32,663 Are you here for a 9:45 appointment? 1386 01:10:32,793 --> 01:10:34,230 Yes. 1387 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:35,622 We're just going to go through it page by page, 1388 01:10:35,753 --> 01:10:38,843 make sure everything is correct. 1389 01:10:38,973 --> 01:10:42,499 I never know if I'm Hispanic or Latino because I am. 1390 01:10:42,629 --> 01:10:44,892 But I definitely think you cannot be Black and Hispanic, 1391 01:10:45,023 --> 01:10:45,937 so. 1392 01:10:46,067 --> 01:10:46,981 You can leave that part. 1393 01:10:47,112 --> 01:10:48,200 We really offered that-- 1394 01:10:48,331 --> 01:10:49,767 we really just need your birthdate. 1395 01:10:49,897 --> 01:10:51,377 And then when you get to the insurance portion, 1396 01:10:51,508 --> 01:10:52,900 just let me know and I'll take over from there. 1397 01:10:53,031 --> 01:10:53,727 Sure. 1398 01:10:53,858 --> 01:10:54,511 Thank you so much. 1399 01:10:54,641 --> 01:10:55,163 You're welcome. 1400 01:10:58,079 --> 01:10:59,559 Oh yeah. 1401 01:10:59,690 --> 01:11:02,475 So typically, what would happen is a patient signs up 1402 01:11:02,606 --> 01:11:04,521 and then she books her own appointment. 1403 01:11:04,651 --> 01:11:07,045 We also ask this question, which is, what does 1404 01:11:07,175 --> 01:11:08,438 optimal health mean to you? 1405 01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:10,091 But typically you would say a goal here. 1406 01:11:10,222 --> 01:11:11,441 So whatever-- 1407 01:11:11,571 --> 01:11:12,877 That's nice. 1408 01:11:13,007 --> 01:11:14,531 I think to have goals is interesting and is 1409 01:11:14,661 --> 01:11:16,968 new in medicine because most people don't have a goal. 1410 01:11:17,098 --> 01:11:18,622 How often have you been to the doctor do 1411 01:11:18,752 --> 01:11:20,014 they ever ask you your goals? 1412 01:11:20,145 --> 01:11:20,885 Never until today. 1413 01:11:21,015 --> 01:11:21,799 There are no goals. 1414 01:11:21,929 --> 01:11:22,669 That's why we do it. 1415 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:23,191 Those are my goals. 1416 01:11:23,322 --> 01:11:23,714 Yeah. 1417 01:11:23,844 --> 01:11:24,541 Exactly. 1418 01:11:24,671 --> 01:11:26,020 There you have it. 1419 01:11:26,151 --> 01:11:28,675 I was inspired to jump into women's health 1420 01:11:28,806 --> 01:11:31,069 after going through my own frustrating series of women's 1421 01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:32,810 health care issues, intricately connected 1422 01:11:32,940 --> 01:11:35,203 to the struggle of finding the right birth control 1423 01:11:35,334 --> 01:11:37,684 as a problem and solution. 1424 01:11:37,815 --> 01:11:40,165 I started to solve one problem, which was just 1425 01:11:40,296 --> 01:11:41,949 to help women find the right birth control, 1426 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:46,171 and realized how, ironically, that was this integral question 1427 01:11:46,302 --> 01:11:49,522 and challenge connected to so many other issues 1428 01:11:49,653 --> 01:11:51,872 that women face around their health. 1429 01:11:52,003 --> 01:11:54,222 Then three years later, we have a fully 1430 01:11:54,353 --> 01:11:55,920 operating brick-and-mortar women's health 1431 01:11:56,050 --> 01:11:57,791 practice that's trying to redefine 1432 01:11:57,922 --> 01:11:58,923 what women's health is. 1433 01:12:03,231 --> 01:12:03,884 Hi. 1434 01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:04,885 Hello, Avery. 1435 01:12:05,016 --> 01:12:05,712 How are you? 1436 01:12:05,843 --> 01:12:07,845 Dr. Moritz. 1437 01:12:07,975 --> 01:12:09,803 How can I help you? 1438 01:12:09,934 --> 01:12:12,458 After 30 some years of delivering babies, 1439 01:12:12,589 --> 01:12:14,678 I was looking for a way to continue that but more 1440 01:12:14,808 --> 01:12:18,899 in the gynecology side, I see the younger people now 1441 01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:22,425 actually wanting to avoid hormonal contraception. 1442 01:12:22,555 --> 01:12:26,472 And I think it has to do with the entire idea 1443 01:12:26,603 --> 01:12:28,692 of eating right. 1444 01:12:28,822 --> 01:12:33,871 And everything that goes into their body, they think about. 1445 01:12:34,001 --> 01:12:37,701 So I've had a lot of issues my whole life with my cycle 1446 01:12:37,831 --> 01:12:38,876 and my period. 1447 01:12:39,006 --> 01:12:40,747 I was irregular always. 1448 01:12:40,878 --> 01:12:44,534 So at 14, they put me on birth control to regulate me. 1449 01:12:44,664 --> 01:12:46,840 With me getting liver lesions, now I 1450 01:12:46,971 --> 01:12:48,973 have this aversion towards it. 1451 01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:50,975 Hormones are so complex. 1452 01:12:51,105 --> 01:12:53,586 So if you're saying to me, Dr. McClellan, 1453 01:12:53,717 --> 01:12:57,938 do you think hormonal contraception has side effects, 1454 01:12:58,069 --> 01:13:00,854 absolutely, for sure. 1455 01:13:00,985 --> 01:13:02,900 Then why should I take it? 1456 01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:04,815 You don't have to take it. 1457 01:13:04,945 --> 01:13:08,166 Now, can you avoid pregnancy not using any hormone 1458 01:13:08,296 --> 01:13:09,123 contraception? 1459 01:13:09,254 --> 01:13:10,386 Absolutely. 1460 01:13:10,516 --> 01:13:11,952 It takes more work. 1461 01:13:12,083 --> 01:13:15,086 You have to be really thoughtful, double barrier, 1462 01:13:15,216 --> 01:13:18,611 and also using some sort of ovulatory window 1463 01:13:18,742 --> 01:13:20,874 predictive analytic. 1464 01:13:21,005 --> 01:13:23,703 We wanted the doctors to feel more like consultants 1465 01:13:23,834 --> 01:13:27,664 in their health care than a dogmatic provider that's just 1466 01:13:27,794 --> 01:13:30,449 telling you what to do with zero options. 1467 01:13:30,580 --> 01:13:33,757 But the ultimate arbiter of choice is the patient. 1468 01:14:03,526 --> 01:14:06,137 I was working as a management consultant. 1469 01:14:06,267 --> 01:14:09,314 And my wife at night was waking me up 1470 01:14:09,445 --> 01:14:13,666 and was complaining that she had cramps in her leg. 1471 01:14:13,797 --> 01:14:18,323 She went to doctors and finally some homeopath asked her 1472 01:14:18,454 --> 01:14:19,542 if she was taking the pill. 1473 01:14:19,672 --> 01:14:23,110 And she was saying, what else? 1474 01:14:23,241 --> 01:14:26,549 He said, well, leave off the pill. 1475 01:14:26,679 --> 01:14:28,072 And she did. 1476 01:14:28,202 --> 01:14:31,118 And after a few weeks, those cramps disappeared. 1477 01:14:33,904 --> 01:14:36,602 Fortunately, this estrogen and progesterone 1478 01:14:36,733 --> 01:14:41,041 can change over the cycle and they have opposite terminal 1479 01:14:41,172 --> 01:14:43,130 effects on the individual. 1480 01:14:43,261 --> 01:14:47,787 And these different terminal effects you can measure. 1481 01:14:47,918 --> 01:14:49,876 We started with Baby-Comp. 1482 01:14:50,007 --> 01:14:53,750 Then we came up with Lady-Comp and Pearly. 1483 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,929 Now we also have an app version that's called Daysy. 1484 01:14:59,059 --> 01:15:01,845 I always like to tell people about the apps that there are 1485 01:15:01,975 --> 01:15:03,150 available. 1486 01:15:03,281 --> 01:15:06,153 This is Daysy. 1487 01:15:06,284 --> 01:15:08,982 So I'll pass it around and everybody can have a look. 1488 01:15:09,113 --> 01:15:12,508 Daysy has its own thermometer, which I think is really cool. 1489 01:15:12,638 --> 01:15:14,684 You press it and you take your temperature every day. 1490 01:15:14,814 --> 01:15:16,250 It learns you for three months, just 1491 01:15:16,381 --> 01:15:18,035 like you would with a fertility awareness method. 1492 01:15:18,165 --> 01:15:21,778 And then after three months, you can use it. 1493 01:15:21,908 --> 01:15:24,171 Could an app replace the birth control pill? 1494 01:15:24,302 --> 01:15:26,652 With tools and apps for nearly everything, 1495 01:15:26,783 --> 01:15:29,916 it's not surprising our mobile devices can also dictate some 1496 01:15:30,047 --> 01:15:32,049 of what we do in the bedroom. 1497 01:15:32,179 --> 01:15:34,399 I think I've gone through most of the different types 1498 01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:36,488 of contraceptives that there are. 1499 01:15:36,619 --> 01:15:38,708 And none of them seem to be a very good fit. 1500 01:15:38,838 --> 01:15:41,493 My dream was, what if I could just know 1501 01:15:41,624 --> 01:15:43,234 exactly where I am in my cycle? 1502 01:15:43,364 --> 01:15:45,192 Then I would know which few days per cycle I 1503 01:15:45,323 --> 01:15:46,890 have to use a condom. 1504 01:15:47,020 --> 01:15:48,369 That would be fine instead of having to go and navigate 1505 01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:50,763 that question every time. 1506 01:15:50,894 --> 01:15:53,374 So we built an app, which is kind of a general tracking app. 1507 01:15:53,505 --> 01:15:55,028 And people used it to get pregnant. 1508 01:15:55,159 --> 01:15:57,553 People used it to understand when the next period is coming. 1509 01:15:57,683 --> 01:15:59,816 They used it for many different reasons. 1510 01:15:59,946 --> 01:16:01,948 I think if you come with a full data set 1511 01:16:02,079 --> 01:16:04,821 and bring it to your doctor, you are enabling your doctor 1512 01:16:04,951 --> 01:16:06,387 to do a great job. 1513 01:16:06,518 --> 01:16:08,564 So I think it's a very empowering thing that women 1514 01:16:08,694 --> 01:16:12,176 can actually come and not just be an average 1515 01:16:12,306 --> 01:16:13,786 but be like, no, it's my body. 1516 01:16:13,917 --> 01:16:15,353 This is what's going on. 1517 01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:24,667 Hey. 1518 01:16:24,797 --> 01:16:26,233 How's it going? 1519 01:16:26,364 --> 01:16:27,887 Things are good. 1520 01:16:28,018 --> 01:16:29,889 We're kind of building out our calendar for 2020. 1521 01:16:30,020 --> 01:16:33,806 So there's a lot of excitement and a lot of possibilities. 1522 01:16:33,937 --> 01:16:36,766 And so I'm really excited. 1523 01:16:36,896 --> 01:16:38,855 I think we're like sitting in a moment 1524 01:16:38,985 --> 01:16:42,293 now where we get to reflect on a changing landscape. 1525 01:16:42,423 --> 01:16:43,903 We have the Women's March. 1526 01:16:44,034 --> 01:16:45,601 We have the #MeToo movement. 1527 01:16:45,731 --> 01:16:49,256 We have broad stroke movements inside of this landscape. 1528 01:16:49,387 --> 01:16:51,694 But we still also have this deep level of suspicion 1529 01:16:51,824 --> 01:16:53,696 around where is our victory? 1530 01:16:53,826 --> 01:16:56,394 Where is our liberation and our freedom? 1531 01:16:56,524 --> 01:16:59,963 That's the complex relationship that I think all women really 1532 01:17:00,093 --> 01:17:03,531 have had with hormonal birth control, with contraception. 1533 01:17:03,662 --> 01:17:05,359 How do we build more Tia clinics? 1534 01:17:05,490 --> 01:17:08,711 How do we build more accessible spaces? 1535 01:17:08,841 --> 01:17:10,974 How do we build more interventions 1536 01:17:11,104 --> 01:17:14,542 while also holding accountable the institutions that currently 1537 01:17:14,673 --> 01:17:16,806 exist? 1538 01:17:16,936 --> 01:17:18,503 So Planned Parenthood New York City 1539 01:17:18,634 --> 01:17:20,331 approached Black Woman's Blueprint 1540 01:17:20,461 --> 01:17:23,769 to support them in a truth and reckoning process. 1541 01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:27,077 So that process is specifically to look 1542 01:17:27,207 --> 01:17:30,689 at the legacy of Planned Parenthood's relationship 1543 01:17:30,820 --> 01:17:32,822 to their communities and the communities 1544 01:17:32,952 --> 01:17:34,345 where they are stationed. 1545 01:17:34,475 --> 01:17:36,956 What are the historical and even, I'd say, 1546 01:17:37,087 --> 01:17:39,785 institutionalized violences that Planned Parenthood 1547 01:17:39,916 --> 01:17:45,182 has caused as a result of several participants 1548 01:17:45,312 --> 01:17:48,794 in its history, but namely Margaret Sanger, 1549 01:17:48,925 --> 01:17:52,624 who the main headquarters is still named for? 1550 01:17:52,755 --> 01:17:56,628 And so the legacy of her hand in eugenics, 1551 01:17:56,759 --> 01:18:00,806 the legacy of her hand in distributing birth 1552 01:18:00,937 --> 01:18:03,766 control to communities and populations 1553 01:18:03,896 --> 01:18:07,291 really as a form of erasing those communities and even 1554 01:18:07,421 --> 01:18:11,295 full races of individuals and people and populations-- 1555 01:18:11,425 --> 01:18:13,079 what does it look like to actually do 1556 01:18:13,210 --> 01:18:16,039 the truth-telling work around that so that Planned Parenthood 1557 01:18:16,169 --> 01:18:18,955 can actually be the stand that it is in community, right, 1558 01:18:19,085 --> 01:18:23,307 creating access while also being held accountable 1559 01:18:23,437 --> 01:18:25,004 for past harms. 1560 01:18:25,135 --> 01:18:27,920 Each Planned Parenthood isn't the same as the other. 1561 01:18:28,051 --> 01:18:28,704 Yeah. 1562 01:18:28,834 --> 01:18:30,270 That's right. 1563 01:18:30,401 --> 01:18:31,489 There are some things that they follow, of course. 1564 01:18:31,619 --> 01:18:33,839 But the cultures and the communities 1565 01:18:33,970 --> 01:18:35,493 play a huge impact in that. 1566 01:18:35,623 --> 01:18:38,191 And so the recognition, which is great, 1567 01:18:38,322 --> 01:18:39,976 I think is just the first step. 1568 01:18:40,106 --> 01:18:42,282 It's really exciting that the work is moving forward. 1569 01:18:42,413 --> 01:18:44,328 I think, again, it's the what's next, right? 1570 01:18:44,458 --> 01:18:46,678 After accountability has been claimed, 1571 01:18:46,809 --> 01:18:49,159 how do we ensure sustained accountability? 1572 01:18:49,289 --> 01:18:53,119 And how do we ensure community voice is always heard? 1573 01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:56,949 We want people to have information, real information. 1574 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,256 And let's see what people do with that real information 1575 01:18:59,386 --> 01:19:01,258 once they really know. 1576 01:19:01,388 --> 01:19:08,047 Do we get our policymakers to look at the really smart 1577 01:19:08,178 --> 01:19:13,574 and proven work of reproductive justice activists? 1578 01:19:13,705 --> 01:19:17,230 In the 1990s, you had a group of Black women 1579 01:19:17,361 --> 01:19:20,799 who began a reproductive justice movement. 1580 01:19:20,930 --> 01:19:25,021 Loretta Ross is one of the more well-known activists. 1581 01:19:25,151 --> 01:19:30,243 And what they're really doing is holding these doctors but also 1582 01:19:30,374 --> 01:19:33,856 the medical establishment responsible for the damage 1583 01:19:33,986 --> 01:19:35,640 that they're ultimately doing. 1584 01:19:35,771 --> 01:19:37,337 No justice, no peace. 1585 01:19:37,468 --> 01:19:40,079 No justice, no peace. 1586 01:19:40,210 --> 01:19:42,342 That's the frontier that we're involved in right now 1587 01:19:42,473 --> 01:19:47,347 in terms of feminists who are fighting around birth control. 1588 01:19:47,478 --> 01:19:50,611 I went to the United State of Women, the first major event. 1589 01:19:50,742 --> 01:19:55,225 I was there for my work as a reproductive health advocate. 1590 01:19:55,355 --> 01:19:57,270 When they said, reproductive rights, 1591 01:19:57,401 --> 01:20:00,143 which was one of the huge banners, all they were talking 1592 01:20:00,273 --> 01:20:01,971 about was birth control. 1593 01:20:02,101 --> 01:20:04,364 And it was birth control and abortion, one or the other, 1594 01:20:04,495 --> 01:20:06,105 right? 1595 01:20:06,236 --> 01:20:10,718 And I said, but what about women's wellness and everything 1596 01:20:10,849 --> 01:20:13,547 that it takes for us to actually live healthy? 1597 01:20:13,678 --> 01:20:18,204 If we're being given these hormonal contraceptives without 1598 01:20:18,335 --> 01:20:20,554 the proper information, then it's not liberating for me. 1599 01:20:20,685 --> 01:20:23,949 It's not liberating for my community. 1600 01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,648 How we address birth control should be a larger conversation 1601 01:20:27,779 --> 01:20:32,436 that's part of a larger broad-based women's movement. 1602 01:20:32,566 --> 01:20:34,525 We should be looking at the reproductive life 1603 01:20:34,655 --> 01:20:38,050 cycle of a woman, which includes pregnancy, birth, 1604 01:20:38,181 --> 01:20:39,747 loss, breastfeeding. 1605 01:20:39,878 --> 01:20:42,968 And we don't really gather women under the same umbrella 1606 01:20:43,099 --> 01:20:44,752 to have these conversations. 1607 01:20:44,883 --> 01:20:48,626 To me, reproductive justice instead puts people 1608 01:20:48,756 --> 01:20:51,934 at the center, not a product, not a procedure. 1609 01:20:52,064 --> 01:20:54,501 And it's really about women's rights 1610 01:20:54,632 --> 01:20:57,548 not only to, quote unquote, control their body, 1611 01:20:57,678 --> 01:21:03,380 but to have a healthy body, to enjoy their body, to protect 1612 01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:05,164 their body. 1613 01:21:05,295 --> 01:21:06,905 We've got all these women who are in this sort of hyper 1614 01:21:07,036 --> 01:21:10,996 accommodating state when they're taking antidepressants and oral 1615 01:21:11,127 --> 01:21:12,780 contraceptives. 1616 01:21:12,911 --> 01:21:14,478 And I would say to you that that is a political issue, that this 1617 01:21:14,608 --> 01:21:17,263 is a social issue, that right now, we 1618 01:21:17,394 --> 01:21:19,439 need to be less accommodating. 1619 01:21:19,570 --> 01:21:22,573 One of the more popular methods of birth control is 1620 01:21:22,703 --> 01:21:24,531 the pill, according to the CDC. 1621 01:21:24,662 --> 01:21:28,187 But the number of women using it appears to be going down. 1622 01:21:28,318 --> 01:21:30,581 There's a lot of concern about putting anything 1623 01:21:30,711 --> 01:21:32,278 artificial in your body. 1624 01:21:32,409 --> 01:21:35,281 And I think that has leading to some fear about hormones. 1625 01:21:35,412 --> 01:21:38,589 Endocrine-disrupting chemicals, ECBs, 1626 01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:42,506 have been linked to infertility, adverse pregnancy outcomes, 1627 01:21:42,636 --> 01:21:45,901 obesity, diabetes, childhood leukemia, and more. 1628 01:21:46,031 --> 01:21:48,904 We've seen a real shift in the past decade to a much more 1629 01:21:49,034 --> 01:21:50,470 ecological awareness. 1630 01:21:50,601 --> 01:21:53,430 We're thinking about pesticides, herbicides, organic, 1631 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,910 what we're putting in our body, what 1632 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,650 we're putting in our planet. 1633 01:21:56,781 --> 01:22:00,350 If you destroy hormones that are involved in reproductive 1634 01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,092 functions, you don't allow them and you replace them with 1635 01:22:03,222 --> 01:22:06,182 endocrine disruptors, which are what are in these birth control 1636 01:22:06,312 --> 01:22:10,490 pills and similars, you are destroying the foundation 1637 01:22:10,621 --> 01:22:14,233 of that woman's body's functioning. 1638 01:22:14,364 --> 01:22:17,193 I think women are now making the connection, like oh, OK, 1639 01:22:17,323 --> 01:22:19,499 so I'm avoiding all these environmental endocrine 1640 01:22:19,630 --> 01:22:21,153 disruptors. 1641 01:22:21,284 --> 01:22:24,374 I'm detoxing the beauty products that I use every day. 1642 01:22:24,504 --> 01:22:26,202 And they're realizing, oh, the pill 1643 01:22:26,332 --> 01:22:28,247 is an endocrine disruptor by design. 1644 01:22:28,378 --> 01:22:30,249 It is definitely an experiment, 1645 01:22:30,380 --> 01:22:33,296 a human trial that we've been doing on these women. 1646 01:22:33,426 --> 01:22:35,385 And because of the age of social media, 1647 01:22:35,515 --> 01:22:37,126 we're finally hearing from them. 1648 01:22:37,256 --> 01:22:39,389 And they're saying, listen, this is not working for me. 1649 01:22:39,519 --> 01:22:40,520 I'm having all these issues. 1650 01:22:40,651 --> 01:22:41,739 What do I do? 1651 01:22:41,869 --> 01:22:43,393 People want more information. 1652 01:22:43,523 --> 01:22:45,830 They want to be treated as individuals 1653 01:22:45,961 --> 01:22:48,964 that are autonomous, that can make sound decisions. 1654 01:22:49,094 --> 01:22:51,531 And that's why that educational dynamic 1655 01:22:51,662 --> 01:22:54,665 and that one-on-one coaching dynamic 1656 01:22:54,795 --> 01:22:56,884 is really starting to blow up, because there's 1657 01:22:57,015 --> 01:22:58,495 this feeling of, yeah, I could do this. 1658 01:22:58,625 --> 01:23:00,236 Can you just show me how? 1659 01:23:00,366 --> 01:23:04,414 So different types of nonhormonal contraception, 1660 01:23:04,544 --> 01:23:06,242 we have fertility awareness. 1661 01:23:06,372 --> 01:23:08,896 We have the male condom, the female condom. 1662 01:23:09,027 --> 01:23:15,381 Copper IUD, the diaphragm, cervical cap, sponge. 1663 01:23:15,512 --> 01:23:18,428 The medical model has created a vacuum, this huge, 1664 01:23:18,558 --> 01:23:20,996 gaping hole of women needing to fill it. 1665 01:23:21,126 --> 01:23:23,041 So we are filling it by talking to each other. 1666 01:23:27,132 --> 01:23:29,221 OK, so I love this slide. 1667 01:23:29,352 --> 01:23:30,527 It's my favorite slide. 1668 01:23:30,657 --> 01:23:33,704 I wish we could make this a big poster. 1669 01:23:33,834 --> 01:23:36,620 Cycles and sex is a movement to educate and celebrate 1670 01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,536 the interconnectedness of our menstrual, hormonal, 1671 01:23:39,666 --> 01:23:42,017 reproductive, and sexual health. 1672 01:23:42,147 --> 01:23:43,453 So we have the marketplace. 1673 01:23:43,583 --> 01:23:45,803 I think there's 29 brands signed on. 1674 01:23:45,933 --> 01:23:47,022 Great. 1675 01:23:47,152 --> 01:23:48,675 We'll have the full day of panels. 1676 01:23:48,806 --> 01:23:52,984 And it'll be everything from fertility, birth control, 1677 01:23:53,115 --> 01:23:54,116 politics, sex-- 1678 01:23:54,246 --> 01:23:54,899 gender. 1679 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:55,769 gender. 1680 01:23:55,900 --> 01:23:57,467 Gender's nonbinary. 1681 01:23:57,597 --> 01:24:00,383 It'll be exciting to see who comes. 1682 01:24:11,220 --> 01:24:13,309 It blocks the entrance to the cervix. 1683 01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:14,745 It's sealed off. 1684 01:24:14,875 --> 01:24:16,747 And you have the option to put in spermicide. 1685 01:24:18,575 --> 01:24:20,490 We'll send you information on what it means to have this. 1686 01:24:20,620 --> 01:24:23,536 You have instructions for how did you want to do it, 1687 01:24:23,667 --> 01:24:24,624 boil water? 1688 01:24:29,542 --> 01:24:33,198 An event like this has really culminated from a shift 1689 01:24:33,329 --> 01:24:35,374 in the cultural conversation. 1690 01:24:35,505 --> 01:24:38,682 All of this is something that women are really ready, 1691 01:24:38,812 --> 01:24:42,512 I think, to take ownership of. 1692 01:24:42,642 --> 01:24:47,560 This is a huge moment of awakening and awareness. 1693 01:24:47,691 --> 01:24:52,391 There is just a reclamation happening. 1694 01:24:52,522 --> 01:24:55,699 When I've been talking to my daughter, I say, honey, 1695 01:24:55,829 --> 01:24:57,788 I don't want you to get on the birth control pill. 1696 01:24:57,918 --> 01:25:00,138 She goes, [gasps],, but I'll get pregnant. 1697 01:25:00,269 --> 01:25:02,097 I'm like, no you won't. 1698 01:25:02,227 --> 01:25:03,533 It's all about education. 1699 01:25:03,663 --> 01:25:04,534 It's all about tracking. 1700 01:25:04,664 --> 01:25:05,796 It's all about empowerment. 1701 01:25:05,926 --> 01:25:07,276 It's all about knowing where you're at. 1702 01:25:14,544 --> 01:25:16,154 One of the things-- 1703 01:25:16,285 --> 01:25:18,330 There's a whole world of people that want to participate 1704 01:25:18,461 --> 01:25:19,114 in this. 1705 01:25:19,244 --> 01:25:20,724 And you can, too. 1706 01:25:20,854 --> 01:25:23,248 It can be done in place of love and community support 1707 01:25:23,379 --> 01:25:26,469 and not like, ooh, this dirty thing that you talk about. 1708 01:25:26,599 --> 01:25:29,298 It's like, no, this is our human experience. 1709 01:25:29,428 --> 01:25:30,995 These are our bodies. 1710 01:25:31,126 --> 01:25:33,911 I just want to acknowledge and honor that although 1711 01:25:34,041 --> 01:25:35,913 we're talking about lady part problems, 1712 01:25:36,043 --> 01:25:40,265 not everybody who identifies as a woman or female has these 1713 01:25:40,396 --> 01:25:41,832 parts. 1714 01:25:41,962 --> 01:25:44,313 By expanding the conversation of gender identity 1715 01:25:44,443 --> 01:25:47,968 to reproductive justice, you save people's lives 1716 01:25:48,099 --> 01:25:50,710 because people don't want to go to the doctor to talk about 1717 01:25:50,841 --> 01:25:52,843 their period if they're going to be questioned about 1718 01:25:52,973 --> 01:25:56,194 their gender identity. 1719 01:25:56,325 --> 01:25:58,065 I'd say we're at the beginning of the wave. 1720 01:25:58,196 --> 01:25:59,415 The culture has shifted. 1721 01:25:59,545 --> 01:26:01,982 And for the first time, women or people 1722 01:26:02,113 --> 01:26:06,073 will have actual uteruses are innovating. 1723 01:26:06,204 --> 01:26:09,686 People are fed up with not having access, 1724 01:26:09,816 --> 01:26:12,341 with not having an equitable experience, 1725 01:26:12,471 --> 01:26:15,779 and now taking matters into their own hands. 1726 01:26:15,909 --> 01:26:16,606 The time is now. 1727 01:26:16,736 --> 01:26:17,650 It's changing. 1728 01:26:21,872 --> 01:26:26,137 You can, you can do anything, anything. 1729 01:26:26,268 --> 01:26:31,098 You can do anything. 1730 01:26:31,229 --> 01:26:35,494 You can, you can anything, anything. 1731 01:26:35,625 --> 01:26:40,369 You can do anything. 1732 01:26:40,499 --> 01:26:44,808 You can, you can do anything, anything. 1733 01:26:44,938 --> 01:26:47,898 You can do anything. 1734 01:27:33,117 --> 01:27:36,860 One by one, well, I left my homes 1735 01:27:36,990 --> 01:27:39,341 and I left my lovers. 1736 01:27:39,471 --> 01:27:44,302 Sticks and stones, tried to wear me down to flesh and bones. 1737 01:27:44,433 --> 01:27:50,352 Oh, one by one by one by one, one by one by one, 1738 01:27:50,482 --> 01:27:55,966 one by one by one by one, one by one by one. 1739 01:27:56,096 --> 01:28:00,362 Let me down till I lost my head. 1740 01:28:00,492 --> 01:28:03,843 Couldn't take another broken heart. 1741 01:28:03,974 --> 01:28:07,325 So I'm taking back each tear. 1742 01:28:07,456 --> 01:28:13,113 One by one by one by one, one by one by one. 1743 01:28:13,244 --> 01:28:20,860 One by one by one by one, one by one by one. 1744 01:28:20,991 --> 01:28:22,297 You blew a kiss. 1745 01:28:22,427 --> 01:28:23,776 And then you're gone. 1746 01:28:23,907 --> 01:28:26,475 The vicious circle goes on and on. 1747 01:28:26,605 --> 01:28:29,434 You leave a kiss and fire a gun. 1748 01:28:29,565 --> 01:28:32,959 The vicious circle goes on and on. 1749 01:28:33,090 --> 01:28:37,921 But just watch me walk away 'cause I'm learning every day. 1750 01:28:38,051 --> 01:28:41,446 I'll blow a kiss and then I'm gone. 1751 01:28:48,453 --> 01:28:49,411 Oh, oh, oh, oh. 1752 01:28:53,415 --> 01:28:55,068 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 1753 01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:59,159 I was lost till I found my records that 1754 01:28:59,290 --> 01:29:00,552 sang how love hurt. 1755 01:29:00,683 --> 01:29:02,859 It hit that bone. 1756 01:29:02,989 --> 01:29:05,818 Now I'm taking back each tear. 1757 01:29:05,949 --> 01:29:11,824 One by one by one by one, one by one by one. 1758 01:29:11,955 --> 01:29:18,788 One by one by one by one, one by one by one. 1759 01:29:18,918 --> 01:29:21,268 Oh, you leave a kiss. 1760 01:29:21,399 --> 01:29:22,792 And then you're gone. 1761 01:29:22,922 --> 01:29:25,272 The vicious circle goes on and on. 1762 01:29:25,403 --> 01:29:27,797 You leave a kiss and fire a gun. 1763 01:29:27,927 --> 01:29:30,887 The vicious circle goes on and on. 1764 01:29:31,017 --> 01:29:36,283 But just watch me walk away 'cause I'm learning every day. 1765 01:29:36,414 --> 01:29:39,635 I'll blow a kiss and then I'm gone. 1766 01:30:04,877 --> 01:30:07,184 You blow a kiss and then you're gone. 1767 01:30:07,314 --> 01:30:10,448 The vicious circle goes on and on. 1768 01:30:10,579 --> 01:30:13,190 You leave a kiss a fire a gun. 1769 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,498 The vicious circle goes on and on. 1770 01:30:16,628 --> 01:30:21,546 But just watch me walk away 'cause I'm learning every day. 1771 01:30:21,677 --> 01:30:25,768 I'll blow a kiss and then I'm gone. 1772 01:30:25,898 --> 01:30:27,073 Oh, oh, oh, oh. 1773 01:30:32,165 --> 01:30:33,384 Oh, oh, oh, oh. 1774 01:30:37,562 --> 01:30:38,737 Oh, oh, oh, oh. 1775 01:30:43,568 --> 01:30:44,743 Oh, oh, oh, oh. 1776 01:30:49,008 --> 01:30:51,402 Oh, oh, oh, oh. 133252

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