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In the '60s, it was
incredibly liberating to have
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the pill at your disposal.
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It changed so much.
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It allowed women to take
in their own hands control
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of their fertility.
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It literally has revolutionized
the ability of women to work.
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It completely changed
women's ability
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to pursue whatever
their dreams were.
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The pill.
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The pill.
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Don't forget
to take your pill.
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I won't.
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The pill is elevated as this
great liberator that ushered
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in the sexual revolution.
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Now women can have sex
without being found out that
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they're sexually active because
they can control whether they
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are ovulating or not.
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It was revolutionary
at the time.
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You couldn't just go to your
doctor and get a diaphragm.
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You have to be married.
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And women couldn't negotiate
power in their relationships.
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But today is a
different context.
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Today an estimated 12 million
American women use the pill.
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And about 80% will
use it at some point
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in their reproductive lives.
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The pill was FDA approved
to be used for a short time,
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now we have people taking
the pill for decades.
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We've known since the
'60s that it's having effects
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on our metabolism, on our
bone density, on our mood,
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and on our libido.
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I can't believe that we don't
have better options for birth
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control.
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They all drive me crazy.
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And it has like three
pages of side effects.
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I can't believe that they
release a product with three
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pages of side effects.
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I'm like, go back.
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It's not ready.
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I've tried five different
kinds of birth control pills.
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Every single one of them
has made me suicidal.
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If I didn't understand what
was going on with my body
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and I kept taking it, who
knows what would have happened.
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The revolution that started
with a simple pill has become
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a multibillion-dollar business.
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We're looking to medical
technology for liberation.
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And that means
whatever contraceptive
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comes on the market, we're going
to embrace it and defend it.
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Birth control
is here to stay.
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Ho, ho, hey, hey--
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It's really difficult to
have a conversation about
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the downsides of hormonal
contraception when it's under
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attack.
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Birth control, it's
so inextricably tied
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into our freedom as women.
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But at what cost?
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Only half the story
is being told.
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So are you currently
on birth control pills?
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Yes.
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And which ones
have you tried?
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I've tried the
pill and the shot.
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But do you remember what
brand you used for the pill?
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No.
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I don't even know
what I'm on now.
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I was put on it by
my doc, my physician
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because of my irregularity
in my periods and my cycle.
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Did he explain to
you how the pill works.
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No.
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I mean, it was basically
just take the pill until you get
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to the week where
you have the placebo.
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And you can take them if
you want or you don't.
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And that's just when
you're menstruating.
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And that was all the information
I ever really got about it.
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It was like, it's a given.
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It's like you take it
because that's what you do.
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We've started this
organization because really we
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thought the menstrual cycle
was a vital sign because of how
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much it can tell you
about your body's health.
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I didn't have conversations
like this when I was growing up.
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Nobody told me like anything
that was going to be happening.
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It was quite a surprise.
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And I think a lot of
people had that experience.
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We have this
beautiful, intrinsic,
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innate blueprint that
is synced to nature.
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It's synced to
circadian rhythms.
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It starts in our brain,
in our hypothalamus,
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runs through our pituitary,
goes through our ovaries.
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And it's cyclic.
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It's not a steady state.
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Ideally, when our hormones
are in their natural flow,
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those hormones change
our emotional milieu.
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They change how we feel.
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They change our
experience of the world.
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In a normal menstrual
cycle, there are brain hormones
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communicating to the ovaries.
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And that's how we orchestrate
ovulation and this really
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symphony of your
menstrual cycle.
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But on hormonal
birth control, you
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put the entire system on mute.
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You're blocking
the text messages.
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So there's some
dude texting you.
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You don't want to hear
from him and you block it.
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So your ovaries
just get shut down.
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You're switching off your
own ovaries and you're replacing
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them with these two chemicals.
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What do these hormonal
contraceptives contain?
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They contain synthetic estrogen
and/or synthetic progestin.
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It works by
suppressing ovulation.
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That way an egg isn't released.
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Although a lot of women
are told that it's regulating
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your cycle or it's like your
body thinks it's pregnant,
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none of those things are
actually what's going on.
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You're not getting
a period when you're
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taking hormonal birth control.
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It's a withdrawal bleed.
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Typically in that pill
pack, it will have three weeks
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of synthetic hormones and then
one week or so of bleeding.
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And people call that
time a withdrawal bleed.
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They don't consider
it to be like a period
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because when you stop taking
the synthetic hormone,
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it acts like that
drop in hormones
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that you see with
the menstruation.
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This idea that we've
been sold by pharmaceutical
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companies that you should
just take the pill and get rid
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of your hormones is really
incomplete and potentially
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dangerous.
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Did you know?
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Did you know?
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Did you know that when
you're on a birth control pill,
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there is no medical need
to have a monthly period?
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Like other birth control pills--
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They're marketed as something
called lifestyle drugs,
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a really powerful hormonal
synthetic cocktail.
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It sounds really nice and fun,
like it's going to fix my acne
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or it's going to fix
my period or it's
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going to regulate my cycle.
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And what we didn't realize
is that we were turning off
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this really important part
of our bodily function that
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was happening every
month, which is ovulation.
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The prevailing narrative is
that we don't need to ovulate
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unless we want to make
a baby, which is crazy
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because ovulation,
regular ovulation,
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which means having a regular,
natural menstrual cycle,
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is how we make our hormones
estrogen and progesterone,
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which have many benefits.
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To say that we don't
need to ovulate except
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to make a baby would
be like saying to men,
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until you're ready
for a baby, we're
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just going to give you this drug
to shut down your testosterone.
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That's what we do to women.
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These hormones affect
our bone development.
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They affect our brain.
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They affect our
breast development.
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They affect our risk of
cardiovascular issues
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later on in life.
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And it makes just no sense to
think that you could shut down
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ovulation in healthy women and
it would make no difference.
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We are putting younger and
younger women on birth control.
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And there haven't
been studies done
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on the safety of that long term
in terms of their mental health
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and their reproductive health.
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I'm on the pill.
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I can't actually think
which one it is right now.
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But it's like the one when
you take it for three weeks
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and have a week off.
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And I feel like I've been
on it for six months.
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And I definitely feel a
bit more crazy, not crazy,
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but more hormonal.
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So I'm currently
taking Yasmin.
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I've been taking that probably
for around seven, eight years.
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Before that, I was
on a different pill
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called Dianette, which
actually I didn't
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have a very good experience on.
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It made me massive mood
swings, feel very depressed.
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I was moody.
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I got fat.
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I was sad.
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I was bitchy and just
not a very nice person.
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And then I just,
it just wasn't--
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emotionally, it wasn't great.
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Thanks so much for agreeing
to share your story with The
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Debrief.
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Tell me a bit about what's been
going on with you and the pill.
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Ah, so much.
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Well, when I was 17,
I went on the pill.
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And--
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It really all began for me
when I was about 14 or 15 and I
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was first prescribed hormonal
contraception to regulate
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really heavy periods.
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I just didn't like how
I felt. And I couldn't
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articulate that feeling.
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But I knew something was wrong.
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I stopped taking the pill
after about six months.
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And I didn't start
taking it again
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until I entered into a
serious long-term relationship
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and wanted contraception.
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That was when my life just
completely fell apart.
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I started having
debilitating panic attacks,
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to the point where I
couldn't go to work.
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I couldn't leave the house.
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And I was prescribed medication
for depression and anxiety
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as well.
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And then one night I
remember sitting in my flat.
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I couldn't sleep.
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I was having an anxiety attack
that had lasted for hours I
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really, really, honestly,
was contemplating
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ending my life because I
was sitting there thinking,
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if this is what my life
is going to be like,
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I don't want to live it.
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This is no way to live.
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And then I came
across this forum.
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And I was reading post
after post after post
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where women were describing
pretty much exactly what I
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felt. And it was one of those
moments where you're like,
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this is almost too good.
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Could it be my pill?
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No, surely not.
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I decided without
discussing it with my doctor
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to come off the pill.
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Within three months, I was fine.
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And now I feel like every
emotion I feel is my own.
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And that really formed the heart
of the Debrief investigation,
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"Mad About the Pill."
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We then run a
survey on the site.
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And we thought we'd get
a few responses on this.
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We were overwhelmed
by the number
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of Debrief readers, thousands.
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Without the pill, I felt like
I gained back some clarity
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and was able to
shift my thoughts
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towards positive development
rather than flailing around
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in my own misery.
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It's so many people
saying the same thing,
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like my GP didn't know.
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My GP couldn't help me.
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My GP didn't make
these connections.
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For this many people to
want to talk about something,
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it means they don't feel like
they have anywhere else to go.
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And it can feel
quite isolating.
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It's such a personal
thing, isn't it?
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You've got to be able to
get that information from
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a reliable source.
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It wasn't until a study from
the University of Copenhagen
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came out, authored by
Professor Lidegaard,
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finding a correlation between
women suffering from depression
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and anxiety and women taking
hormonal contraception.
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People don't like the message
that hormonal contraception may
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bring depression.
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A woman should know it
could be a consequence
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of her hormonal
contraceptive use
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because then she
can stop that use.
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A majority of women
do not get depressed.
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But the denial of the
existence of that problem
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implies that women are
not asked sufficiently.
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When I went through
my training, I was told,
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there's not a mood effect.
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But I can tell you from being on
the pill myself, I can tell you
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from taking care
of 25,000 women,
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there is definitely
a mood effect.
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And it's well demonstrated
in the literature.
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Based off the
conclusions of this study,
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we should actually be warning
women about the fact that they
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could get depressed on the pill.
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Many, many women came forward
to say, this vindicates me.
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This makes me feel
like I'm not crazy.
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It's not all in my head.
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Once I started making those
connections for myself,
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I was researching into
how this happened.
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I wanted to know, the pill
could do all these things to me.
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Exactly how did it do them?
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And welcome back.
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We're going to talk
with research professor
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and psychologist Sarah Hill.
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She's the author
of the new book.
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It's called "This is Your
Brain on Birth Control--
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The Surprising Science
of Women, Hormones,
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and the Law of
Unintended Consequences."
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When they're
talking about the pill,
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women always talk about
how it makes them feel.
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And I think that until
now, women haven't really
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had an explanation for why
they're feeling that way.
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I wanted to look at what role
women's sex hormones play
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in orchestrating the
activities of women's brains.
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And then how does all of
that change on the pill?
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Taking the pill is associated
with having a dampened stress
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response, particularly the
stress hormone cortisol.
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It actually just makes women
less able to cope with stress.
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And it can also cause
problems with things
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like learning and memory.
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So it can cause mood-related
symptomology that we oftentimes
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see in pill-taking women,
things like depression,
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things like anxiety.
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And it can be associated with
even feelings of brain fog.
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And so you're a different
version of yourself
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when you're on
hormonal contraception
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relative to the
version of yourself
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that you are when
you're off of it.
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Women shouldn't have to
change who they are in order
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to protect themselves
from pregnancy.
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And we should know
enough about the way
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that our brains
and our bodies work
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to know that that's exactly
what we're doing when we
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go on the birth control pill.
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When you look at
hormonal birth control,
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there's a long laundry
list of side effects,
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from anxiety and increased
risk of depression,
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painful sex, low libido,
to nutrient depletion,
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migraine headaches,
weight gain, insomnia,
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clitoral shrinkage,
and even the impact
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it has on partner attraction.
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The body of knowledge
that was growing, I think,
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through anecdotal reports
was that women would go off
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the pill and realize that they
weren't happy with the person
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that they had chosen as a mate.
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There's a sweaty T-shirt study
that you can choose a good mate
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based on smell.
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But if you're on the pill,
that sort of mechanism
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seems to be offline.
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We're seeking out the mate
that will offer us the most
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genetic diversity.
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If you're a woman
and you've ever
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smelt your partner after
they're working out the gym
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and you're like, mm, that
smells so good, when they're
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a little bit stinky, they're
expressing their MHC complex.
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And it's giving your
brain and your entire body
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data about their immune
system and about their genetic
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compatibility with you.
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On hormonal contraceptives,
you end up choosing somebody
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who is more alike
than different.
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The catchphrase became
that you end up mating
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with somebody who is more like
brother and less like other.
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There's millions of
women on this medication.
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That literally changes
their emotions.
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It changes their pheromones.
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It changes their sex drive.
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What is the possible
impact on the world?
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You're watching
"The Breakfast Club."
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Morning, everybody.
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We've got some special
guests in the building.
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Dr. Amun, Dr. Amsu, and Coach
Gessie, thank you very much--
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I had Gessie's name right.
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Thank you.
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for joining us.
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It is National Sexual
Health Awareness Month.
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And I see you guys have these
Kill the Pill shirts on.
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So let's get into.
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It.
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What is the pill?
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What kind of pill are
y'all trying to kill?
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What kinds pill we killing?
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Yes.
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Well, first of all, we
champion women's causes.
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We've championed fibroids.
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We've championed PCOS, which
is polycystic ovarian syndrome.
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We've championed
endometriosis and infertility.
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The number one culprit of
actually all of these issues,
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the elephant in the room
is the birth control pill.
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Really?
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People are being told
that the pill is the greatest
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invention of all time.
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But it's making our women sick.
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That's why we're saying kill
the pill before it kills you.
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I am one of the 90% of
Black women affected by uterine
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fibroids by age 50.
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My grueling journey
included 12 surgeries,
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five of them for fibroids
and five for complications
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from those fibroids,
and even my heart
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stopping on the delivery table.
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But thank God when I birthed
my miracle baby, Nia,
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she birthed me into
my purpose and work
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as a fibroids activist.
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So many women we talk with
on a daily basis will say, oh,
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wait a minute, yeah, I just have
a heavy cycle or I just have
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a heavy period, and not
realizing that they are
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actually exhibiting symptoms
of what is the root cause
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of fibroids, which is
the estrogen dominance.
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It's triggered by stress,
diet, and pollutants.
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Well, those chemical pollutants,
the number one culprit
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was birth control,
hormonal birth controls.
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OMG.
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11.5 million-- I don't know if
you know this number, Angela,
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but 11.5 million of us women and
girls are actually on the pill.
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But 35% of the women
who are prescribed it
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are prescribed it for
noncontraceptive PMS reasons.
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They're being told,
you need this.
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It's the only way
you're going to be
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able to actually restore your--
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have a normal life.
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Over time, what happens with it
is that it masks your symptoms.
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And then once you get off
the birth control, what
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happens, we find
out, holy cow, there
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have been monsters
developing in the background.
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Bringing the estrogen--
I'm talking to these women
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daily about birth
control causing fibroids,
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causing infertility,
causing pulmonary embolism,
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blood clots, where women
have lost their lives.
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And we have to look
at when something
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is so prevalent
and so inextricably
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tied into women's lives,
why are we sicker as women?
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Did you go on the birth
control pill for something
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other than
controlling pregnancy?
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Regulate my period, too.
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I was having a lot of
issues with getting it,
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not getting it.
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When I was in high school,
it was recommended for my skin.
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Do you remember why you
went on the birth control pill
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in the first place?
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For PCOS,
polycystic syndrome.
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Too often I see women put
on birth control pills not
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for contraception but to deal
with breakthrough bleeding
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or so forth, where the doctor
never bothers to test them
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first and see why
it's happening.
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There's just this knee-jerk,
shoot-from-the-hip, boom,
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take the birth control pill.
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Birth control is
incredibly useful.
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The problem is that
it's so useful,
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it's being used as a
treatment for a hell
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of a lot of things that aren't
keep that baby out of me.
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So many women go on the
pill for something like
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endometriosis, for instance,
because that is the only
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solution that's really
offered now by doctors.
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And, unfortunately, I
mean, it's just a Band-Aid.
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It suppresses their
pain a little bit.
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But, I mean, unfortunately,
I do find when a lot of them
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get off of it, the
pain is right back.
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1 in 10 women suffer
from endometriosis.
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And it's just one of the many
painful, debilitating lady
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diseases that gets treated
with birth control and a shrug.
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There's also
dysmenorrhea, irregular
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or excessive bleeding, and
polycystic ovary syndrome.
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PCOS afflicts 1 in 10
women with symptoms
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like weight gain, hair
growth, fertility problems,
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and diabetes.
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After three years,
this fertility specialist
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on the Upper West
Side goes, yeah,
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you have cysts all
over your ovaries.
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And I'm like, what
does that mean?
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It's like, well,
it's the leading
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cause of infertility, diabetes,
and heart disease in women.
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And here are more
birth control pills.
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It's like finding all of your
furniture on your front lawn
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and the police are
like, that's life.
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Want to take the pill?
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In the doctor's mind, you're
having a withdrawal bleed every
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month, which they call a period.
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Therefore, you're fixed.
447
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But nobody talks to that
woman about the fact
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that she's at higher
risk for diabetes.
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She's at higher risk for
stroke and heart attack.
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We're not setting women free.
451
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We're setting them
up for disease.
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We're setting them up
for a lot of problems.
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My name is Erika, known to
you all better as Farmer Girl.
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Although I'm from a
small town in Colorado,
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I have had the
opportunity to travel
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to many parts of the
world and the US.
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In a way, I define myself,
that experience I've had,
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by traveling.
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We're at her home in Arizona.
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And my cell phone rang.
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And it was Erika's phone.
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And I answered in anticipation
of our upcoming visit
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from her for Thanksgiving.
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And it wasn't her.
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It was her boyfriend.
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And he said, there's a problem.
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And he had come
into the apartment
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and found her on the floor.
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And she was taken by ambulance.
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And we later learned
that had multiple heart
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attacks on her way to
the emergency room.
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I was able to talk to the
emergency room doctor.
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And he asked if she
was on birth control.
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And I said, yes, the NuvaRing.
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He said, I believe
that's the problem.
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And we have pulmonary
embolisms going on here.
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We were told that
she was brain dead.
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And on Thanksgiving,
they pronounced her dead.
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The pulmonologist took
us down the hallway and put
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Erika's lungs up on
the screen and said,
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this was caused by the NuvaRing.
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She actually was prescribed
the NuvaRing because
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of having an ovarian cyst.
484
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And we now know that
most ovarian cysts
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resolve themselves anyway.
486
00:25:00,411 --> 00:25:03,458
Our daughter was really strong.
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And if she knew
what we now know,
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she would be right
here doing this
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because she would be
incensed at what's
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going on at the expense of
women's health unnecessarily.
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Every day that goes
by, we know there's
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girls out there that are
not informed and, therefore,
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at risk.
494
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We want to do whatever
we can to help inform.
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When I was buying
these magazines,
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I would buy all of them.
497
00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:03,083
Of course, the checker
would ask me, are you in it?
498
00:26:03,213 --> 00:26:04,650
Why are you buying it?
499
00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:06,695
I just tell them,
my daughter died
500
00:26:06,826 --> 00:26:08,567
because of this birth control.
501
00:26:08,697 --> 00:26:10,307
I show them the article.
502
00:26:10,438 --> 00:26:13,789
Actually, the very first day
that I bought it, one checker
503
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,792
said that she just started
taking it about a month ago
504
00:26:16,923 --> 00:26:20,317
and she said she has some pain
right at the top of her thigh.
505
00:26:20,448 --> 00:26:22,493
So I told her she needs
to go in right now.
506
00:26:22,624 --> 00:26:26,410
I handed her to the magazine
right then and there.
507
00:26:26,541 --> 00:26:28,108
Brittany kept it
in the original bag
508
00:26:28,238 --> 00:26:29,936
that she got from
Planned Parenthood.
509
00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:34,810
And she hid it underneath the
cheese in the refrigerator
510
00:26:34,941 --> 00:26:36,638
so her dad wouldn't see it.
511
00:26:36,769 --> 00:26:39,554
So it's been in
there ever since.
512
00:26:39,685 --> 00:26:42,862
They look like a
condom with the foil.
513
00:26:42,992 --> 00:26:46,779
But down on the bottom it says,
"doesn't protect against HIV."
514
00:26:46,909 --> 00:26:49,912
Well, what about a black
warning label that says,
515
00:26:50,043 --> 00:26:51,000
"could cause death"?
516
00:26:54,917 --> 00:26:56,353
Here goes Brittany.
517
00:26:56,484 --> 00:26:57,180
Hi.
518
00:26:57,311 --> 00:26:59,574
Show me a trick.
519
00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:03,099
I was just like, ah.
520
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,453
We just kind of got
ready in her bedroom.
521
00:27:09,584 --> 00:27:12,674
And we went out to a club.
522
00:27:12,805 --> 00:27:17,723
I remember when we first walked
in she said how loud it was.
523
00:27:17,853 --> 00:27:20,943
She said it was so loud.
524
00:27:21,074 --> 00:27:22,336
We all love to dance.
525
00:27:22,466 --> 00:27:24,468
And she's like, I don't
feel like dancing.
526
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:27,907
And I just thought it was really
weird because we've always
527
00:27:28,037 --> 00:27:30,779
gone out to dance.
528
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:34,174
And then she felt like
her heart was racing.
529
00:27:34,304 --> 00:27:36,872
I was like, maybe she's
having an anxiety attack.
530
00:27:37,003 --> 00:27:39,396
And then all of a sudden,
she's sitting there
531
00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,398
and her eyes kind of roll back.
532
00:27:41,529 --> 00:27:44,924
And she just, like
she kind of hits us.
533
00:27:45,054 --> 00:27:47,230
I remember calling 911.
534
00:27:47,361 --> 00:27:51,626
Right when we got to the
hospital, I called my mom.
535
00:27:51,757 --> 00:27:53,846
And I just said,
what happened?
536
00:27:53,976 --> 00:27:55,717
And she goes, "Mom,
just come out."
537
00:27:55,848 --> 00:27:57,458
I get a call
from the head nurse.
538
00:27:57,588 --> 00:28:02,681
And she tells me that Brittany
came in without a heartbeat
539
00:28:02,811 --> 00:28:05,553
and that she was
bleeding from the lungs.
540
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,424
They said we could
come in and see her.
541
00:28:07,555 --> 00:28:09,252
But there were so many people--
542
00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:10,601
trying to save her.
543
00:28:10,732 --> 00:28:11,951
And they said her lungs
were hemorrhaging.
544
00:28:12,081 --> 00:28:13,300
They couldn't get it to stop.
545
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:15,084
They didn't know
what was the matter.
546
00:28:15,215 --> 00:28:18,392
Maybe she was drugged
or she had a disease.
547
00:28:18,522 --> 00:28:19,915
I kept saying,
no medications.
548
00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:21,656
And my mom's like, well,
yeah, she's on medication.
549
00:28:21,787 --> 00:28:23,179
She's on birth control.
550
00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:25,355
And I'm like, oh, I didn't
even think about that.
551
00:28:25,486 --> 00:28:26,705
So we prayed.
552
00:28:26,835 --> 00:28:28,184
We hoped for miracles.
553
00:28:28,315 --> 00:28:31,535
But they did another brain scan.
554
00:28:31,666 --> 00:28:37,324
And the doctor came and told
us that Brittany was gone.
555
00:28:37,454 --> 00:28:40,414
Then we had to tell the
family that Brittany
556
00:28:40,544 --> 00:28:43,939
was no longer going to be
with us, that we had lost her.
557
00:29:06,005 --> 00:29:07,397
I started doing some research.
558
00:29:07,528 --> 00:29:11,053
And I find out that there's
thousands of lawsuits
559
00:29:11,184 --> 00:29:12,968
against Merck for this product.
560
00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:15,362
I mean, thousands of
lawsuits and the product's
561
00:29:15,492 --> 00:29:16,929
still on the market?
562
00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:18,844
I don't understand how all
this stuff works, right?
563
00:29:18,974 --> 00:29:21,237
But I can't believe this.
564
00:29:21,368 --> 00:29:25,589
I'm told that I should
file a report with the FDA.
565
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,808
So I file that.
566
00:29:26,939 --> 00:29:28,288
I wait about a month.
567
00:29:28,418 --> 00:29:30,290
And I don't hear anything back.
568
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:31,857
So I decide to
call them one day.
569
00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:32,901
And I call.
570
00:29:33,032 --> 00:29:34,424
And I got transferred around.
571
00:29:34,555 --> 00:29:37,427
And I finally got in touch
with a very nice woman
572
00:29:37,558 --> 00:29:40,256
who said, unfortunately,
we don't have much funding.
573
00:29:40,387 --> 00:29:43,085
We don't have enough funding
to respond to all of these.
574
00:29:43,216 --> 00:29:45,827
And I said, but
my daughter died.
575
00:29:45,958 --> 00:29:49,700
Don't you want to know more
about why my daughter died?
576
00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:52,051
I'm not antigovernment
or anti-FDA.
577
00:29:52,181 --> 00:29:54,401
But when I found this out,
I was like, what do you do?
578
00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:17,903
The pill-- millions of
words have been written
579
00:30:18,033 --> 00:30:21,428
for and against it, for this
little white tablet is more
580
00:30:21,558 --> 00:30:24,083
explosive than dynamite.
581
00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:26,999
It's the most controversial
pill ever produced.
582
00:30:27,129 --> 00:30:29,479
Scientifically, it's a
dramatic step forward
583
00:30:29,610 --> 00:30:31,351
in the control of nature.
584
00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:41,752
In the middle of World War
I, there emerged for the first
585
00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:46,627
time a real campaign to
legalize contraception.
586
00:30:46,757 --> 00:30:50,892
And the key figure in
that was Margaret Sanger.
587
00:30:51,023 --> 00:30:53,286
She was a visiting nurse.
588
00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:58,508
And she saw firsthand
the costs of lack
589
00:30:58,639 --> 00:31:01,337
of control over pregnancy
and reproduction.
590
00:31:01,468 --> 00:31:05,341
She does this service
in some ways, right,
591
00:31:05,472 --> 00:31:11,347
where women have bodily autonomy
and control around their own
592
00:31:11,478 --> 00:31:13,132
fertility.
593
00:31:13,262 --> 00:31:18,137
But it comes about because of
her belief in a science that
594
00:31:18,267 --> 00:31:19,921
promulgates white supremacy.
595
00:31:20,052 --> 00:31:23,838
Eugenics, it's a
scientific way to rid
596
00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:28,190
society of those who are seen
as less valuable members.
597
00:31:28,321 --> 00:31:30,714
I think the greatest sin in
the world is bringing children
598
00:31:30,845 --> 00:31:35,154
into the world that have
disease from their parents,
599
00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,983
that have no chance in the
world to be a human being,
600
00:31:38,113 --> 00:31:39,375
practically.
601
00:31:39,506 --> 00:31:41,551
Delinquents, prisoners,
all sorts of things,
602
00:31:41,682 --> 00:31:43,466
it's just marked
when they're born.
603
00:31:43,597 --> 00:31:48,341
Sanger immediately saw the
possibility of an alliance with
604
00:31:48,471 --> 00:31:49,603
the eugenicists.
605
00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:54,651
Sanger is a pragmatist.
606
00:31:54,782 --> 00:31:58,090
She is willing to work with
different organizations
607
00:31:58,220 --> 00:32:02,790
in order to get birth
control as a common practice.
608
00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:05,662
And so as she gains
more prominence,
609
00:32:05,793 --> 00:32:08,187
Planned Parenthood materializes.
610
00:32:10,798 --> 00:32:13,932
And the time that she should
be thinking about retirement,
611
00:32:14,062 --> 00:32:18,893
she is steadily working to
get investors and people who
612
00:32:19,024 --> 00:32:20,721
are willing to do
the kind of research
613
00:32:20,851 --> 00:32:27,858
to create a pill that women can
use without the consent of men.
614
00:32:27,989 --> 00:32:30,644
But it comes about
at the expense
615
00:32:30,774 --> 00:32:33,952
of a group of already
oppressed people.
616
00:32:36,911 --> 00:32:39,740
The trial that they used
to get the pill approved was
617
00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:42,134
a trial in Puerto Rico.
618
00:32:42,264 --> 00:32:47,052
And only 132 women had taken the
pill for 12 consecutive months.
619
00:32:47,182 --> 00:32:51,230
It was that whole mentality
of let's find a way to get
620
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,622
the FDA to approve this.
621
00:32:52,753 --> 00:32:54,102
They're not going to do it here.
622
00:32:54,233 --> 00:32:55,756
Let's go to Puerto
Rico because they're
623
00:32:55,886 --> 00:33:00,456
having population issues and
they're living in poverty.
624
00:33:00,587 --> 00:33:04,199
You have a population
where doctors say, hey,
625
00:33:04,330 --> 00:33:08,290
these women have been clamoring
for the ability to be able
626
00:33:08,421 --> 00:33:10,336
to control their fertility.
627
00:33:10,466 --> 00:33:12,642
That's true.
628
00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:17,212
But they didn't know about
the possibilities of the side
629
00:33:17,343 --> 00:33:18,474
effects.
630
00:33:18,605 --> 00:33:20,737
Five women died on the trial.
631
00:33:20,868 --> 00:33:23,305
One of the five
deaths was a suicide.
632
00:33:23,436 --> 00:33:24,872
And, of course,
they said that had
633
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,743
nothing to do with the pill.
634
00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:29,833
So when the drug companies
presented the findings
635
00:33:29,964 --> 00:33:32,836
to the FDA, they
omitted things that
636
00:33:32,967 --> 00:33:34,664
weren't comfortable to them.
637
00:33:34,795 --> 00:33:36,927
They included things
that were comfortable.
638
00:33:37,058 --> 00:33:40,279
And a lot of it came
out after the fact.
639
00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:43,282
Women were taking this
pill in more and more numbers.
640
00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:44,935
Over the course of
the first decade,
641
00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:47,112
the uptake was incredible.
642
00:33:47,242 --> 00:33:50,724
But women had really
severe side effects.
643
00:33:50,854 --> 00:33:53,161
Enovid, the first pill,
had a very high level
644
00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:55,511
of synthetic estrogen.
And it caused women
645
00:33:55,642 --> 00:33:59,080
to have a lot of really
serious physical side effects
646
00:33:59,211 --> 00:34:01,822
as well as things
like depression.
647
00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:05,130
It wasn't very long when
the first blood clot came out,
648
00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:09,047
'63, the first case
report of a heart attack.
649
00:34:09,177 --> 00:34:12,702
Most of the things that are
done to us are done without
650
00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:14,530
our real informed consent.
651
00:34:14,661 --> 00:34:16,750
I think that our rights
are violated all the time
652
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,274
by most doctors.
653
00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:21,320
Barbara Seaman
wrote this book,
654
00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:23,713
"The Doctor's Case
Against the Pill."
655
00:34:23,844 --> 00:34:28,414
She wanted to interview medical
professionals about the pill
656
00:34:28,544 --> 00:34:30,677
and see it from
their perspective.
657
00:34:30,807 --> 00:34:33,027
What were the
dangers of the pill?
658
00:34:33,158 --> 00:34:35,986
More and more women were
taking this medication.
659
00:34:36,117 --> 00:34:37,945
And those numbers were
growing so rapidly.
660
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:40,078
What could that
mean going forward?
661
00:34:41,470 --> 00:34:44,691
And that book was
really a catalyst
662
00:34:44,821 --> 00:34:47,650
for what we now see as the
Women's Health Movement.
663
00:35:01,534 --> 00:35:05,146
I moved to DC in '69.
664
00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:09,411
It was just a hotbed of
stuff happening there.
665
00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:13,285
We had a collective of women
called DC Women's Liberation.
666
00:35:13,415 --> 00:35:14,547
We had an office.
667
00:35:14,677 --> 00:35:17,202
We would meet every day.
668
00:35:17,332 --> 00:35:20,161
We all had side
effects on the pill.
669
00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:23,643
I, for instance,
had had hair loss.
670
00:35:23,773 --> 00:35:27,212
And I said to my doctor at the
time, who was a man, of course,
671
00:35:27,342 --> 00:35:29,779
I said, could this be--
672
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:31,172
could this be
related to the pill?
673
00:35:31,303 --> 00:35:32,869
No.
674
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,133
One day, eight of us
were sitting around
675
00:35:35,263 --> 00:35:37,439
at one of our endless
meetings, saying
676
00:35:37,570 --> 00:35:39,572
tomorrow there's
supposedly hearings
677
00:35:39,702 --> 00:35:41,182
on the Hill about the pill.
678
00:35:41,313 --> 00:35:44,403
We said, well, let's go.
679
00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:47,884
In those days, you could
get into Senate hearings.
680
00:35:48,015 --> 00:35:52,106
Gaylord Nelson was a Senator
in Wisconsin and had been given
681
00:35:52,237 --> 00:35:56,241
a copy of Barbara Seaman's book,
which spurred him to sponsor
682
00:35:56,371 --> 00:35:58,112
the Nelson Pill Hearings.
683
00:35:58,243 --> 00:36:00,462
Barbara Seaman called
it the Boston Tea Party
684
00:36:00,593 --> 00:36:02,769
of the Women's Health Movement.
685
00:36:02,899 --> 00:36:07,730
The women in this country
are consuming oral contraceptive
686
00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:12,300
medications in the belief
that they are considered safe
687
00:36:12,431 --> 00:36:15,477
by the American Food
and Drug Administration.
688
00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:20,569
We have young women having
strokes from abnormal clots
689
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:21,744
in arteries.
690
00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:23,572
We were sitting
in the audience.
691
00:36:23,703 --> 00:36:26,009
And we're seeing all
these men are testifying.
692
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:28,925
And they're talking
about people dying.
693
00:36:29,056 --> 00:36:30,013
First we raised our hands.
694
00:36:30,144 --> 00:36:31,493
And nobody called on us.
695
00:36:31,624 --> 00:36:34,235
Then we just stood up
and started yelling.
696
00:36:34,366 --> 00:36:36,411
How long am I going to
have to sit here listening
697
00:36:36,542 --> 00:36:39,153
to the terrible effects of these
pills on women without hearing
698
00:36:39,284 --> 00:36:40,763
from a single woman?
699
00:36:40,894 --> 00:36:42,765
I want to know where the
drug companies' research
700
00:36:42,896 --> 00:36:44,593
studies are.
701
00:36:44,724 --> 00:36:46,378
Why do they all know that they
have many adverse side effects
702
00:36:46,508 --> 00:36:49,294
that it's taken 10 years for
you to begin to bring out?
703
00:36:49,424 --> 00:36:51,644
You say no significant
effects on lactation.
704
00:36:51,774 --> 00:36:53,994
Does that mean to the
mother of the child?
705
00:36:54,124 --> 00:37:00,348
Well, now if you would
be quiet a moment, I'm--
706
00:37:00,479 --> 00:37:01,567
We've been quite for--
707
00:37:01,697 --> 00:37:02,655
We've been quiet
for a long time.
708
00:37:02,785 --> 00:37:04,091
Quiet?
709
00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:05,745
We are not going to
sit quietly any longer.
710
00:37:05,875 --> 00:37:11,185
You are murdering us for
your profit and convenience.
711
00:37:11,316 --> 00:37:13,709
The committee will decide
who the witnesses will be.
712
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,060
And we are trying to take the
best scientific testimony we
713
00:37:17,191 --> 00:37:19,367
can get of those
who know the most
714
00:37:19,498 --> 00:37:20,890
about the effects of the pill.
715
00:37:21,021 --> 00:37:21,717
Ask women.
716
00:37:21,848 --> 00:37:22,805
Ask women.
717
00:37:22,936 --> 00:37:24,198
I know that I was not warned.
718
00:37:24,329 --> 00:37:25,895
I know that I was told
that they were safe.
719
00:37:26,026 --> 00:37:27,723
All right, now I'm going
to proceed with the hearings.
720
00:37:27,854 --> 00:37:29,377
I don't want to be dis--
721
00:37:29,508 --> 00:37:31,249
Well, we'll also proceed
with our questioning then.
722
00:37:31,379 --> 00:37:33,251
Officer, we will-- we will--
723
00:37:33,381 --> 00:37:34,600
You're going to take women,
you're going to drag women out
724
00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:36,689
of this hearing whose
lives are at stake.
725
00:37:36,819 --> 00:37:38,430
That's a fine way
to run something.
726
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,476
It got an enormous
amount of publicity.
727
00:37:41,607 --> 00:37:44,262
This hearing is supposed
to be about informed consent,
728
00:37:44,392 --> 00:37:48,701
as I was just told, which
is an amazing thing to me
729
00:37:48,831 --> 00:37:51,225
because none of us,
not only did we not--
730
00:37:51,356 --> 00:37:53,314
were we not told of the
dangers of the pill.
731
00:37:53,445 --> 00:37:55,621
When we came in
with problems, when
732
00:37:55,751 --> 00:37:57,710
we came in with side
effects, we were
733
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,494
told to go on using the pill.
734
00:38:03,019 --> 00:38:05,108
So this is the
transcripts of the hearing?
735
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,545
Yeah.
736
00:38:06,675 --> 00:38:08,242
Through Bernie
Sanders' office,
737
00:38:08,373 --> 00:38:11,550
the transcripts were photocopied
and were released through
738
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,814
the Freedom of Information Act.
739
00:38:14,944 --> 00:38:19,645
They knew much of what we
should know and should have
740
00:38:19,775 --> 00:38:22,387
paid attention to prior to
it coming to the market.
741
00:38:22,517 --> 00:38:23,910
They knew it already.
742
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,739
Do you consider the
hazards potential or real?
743
00:38:26,869 --> 00:38:28,610
Well, some of the
hazards are real.
744
00:38:28,741 --> 00:38:31,221
They knew about the
effects on metabolism.
745
00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,746
They knew about effects on mood.
746
00:38:33,876 --> 00:38:37,924
They had evidence of
some suicides and deaths
747
00:38:38,054 --> 00:38:40,274
in the research, in
the original trials.
748
00:38:40,405 --> 00:38:44,104
We had a lot of evidence back
then of all these effects.
749
00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:46,628
And our position is that
the oral contraceptives are
750
00:38:46,759 --> 00:38:50,197
an effective and safe
method of birth control.
751
00:38:50,328 --> 00:38:53,069
It was the American Medical
Association with the drug
752
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,464
manufacturers that decided
what the risk was and what it
753
00:38:56,595 --> 00:38:57,900
wasn't.
754
00:38:58,031 --> 00:39:00,468
It was really kind of
a turning point in such
755
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:05,299
that they allowed the industry
to dictate the safety, what
756
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:07,780
was safe and what was not.
757
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:10,522
I expected to see
all the medical stuff.
758
00:39:10,652 --> 00:39:12,437
But when I got to
the parts where
759
00:39:12,567 --> 00:39:15,962
doctors are talking
about basically changing
760
00:39:16,092 --> 00:39:19,313
the benefit-to-risk paradigm to
get it approved because it was
761
00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:22,447
the benefit to society versus
the risk to the individual,
762
00:39:22,577 --> 00:39:24,318
that blew me away.
763
00:39:24,449 --> 00:39:26,625
Every pharmaceutical
company does that.
764
00:39:26,755 --> 00:39:28,801
You hear that all the
time, benefit versus risk.
765
00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:32,892
And nobody ever says benefit
to who versus my risk?
766
00:39:33,022 --> 00:39:33,675
Right.
767
00:39:33,806 --> 00:39:35,460
Right.
768
00:39:35,590 --> 00:39:37,984
A delegation from the Women's
Liberation Movement visited
769
00:39:38,114 --> 00:39:39,768
Senator Gaylord Nelson.
770
00:39:39,899 --> 00:39:42,815
They complained that Nelson's
investigation of birth control
771
00:39:42,945 --> 00:39:46,514
pill safety did not call women
who take the pill or women
772
00:39:46,645 --> 00:39:49,430
doctors and researchers.
773
00:39:49,561 --> 00:39:53,042
What happened as a result of
our persistence was the first
774
00:39:53,173 --> 00:39:57,960
patient package insert of
a prescription medication.
775
00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:00,485
What we had envisioned in
the beginning with something
776
00:40:00,615 --> 00:40:02,791
that would be on the
back of the pill packet
777
00:40:02,922 --> 00:40:08,884
and give six warning signs,
not such a long, lengthy thing.
778
00:40:09,015 --> 00:40:10,712
But we didn't win.
779
00:40:10,843 --> 00:40:12,540
The lawyers got a hold of it.
780
00:40:12,671 --> 00:40:13,715
A good way to put it.
781
00:40:13,846 --> 00:40:17,240
The lawyers got a
hold of it, yes.
782
00:40:17,371 --> 00:40:19,678
Ultimately, there was a
win for the feminist health
783
00:40:19,808 --> 00:40:21,941
movement in that
we got labeling.
784
00:40:22,071 --> 00:40:24,726
And that was copied
throughout the industry.
785
00:40:24,857 --> 00:40:26,685
We didn't really
have drug labels
786
00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:30,036
with all that fine print telling
us what the possible side
787
00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:32,299
effects might be.
788
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,693
But the label that
they went with really
789
00:40:34,823 --> 00:40:38,261
focused on blood clots and
left everything else off
790
00:40:38,392 --> 00:40:39,480
of that fine print.
791
00:40:45,965 --> 00:40:48,881
At this clinic in Washington
and clinics like it all over
792
00:40:49,011 --> 00:40:52,188
the country, millions of
women started taking the pill
793
00:40:52,319 --> 00:40:54,974
and they had unprecedented
freedom from unwanted
794
00:40:55,104 --> 00:40:55,888
pregnancies.
795
00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:10,555
This is the symbolic
representation of state
796
00:41:10,685 --> 00:41:14,646
government intervention, not
just have you had your pill,
797
00:41:14,776 --> 00:41:17,910
but everything that the
birth control pill conotates
798
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,522
and represents for
an urban population.
799
00:41:26,005 --> 00:41:28,181
The relationship between
medicine, particularly
800
00:41:28,311 --> 00:41:30,575
reproductive medicine,
and women's bodies
801
00:41:30,705 --> 00:41:36,145
is a long and complicated,
oftentimes troubling history.
802
00:41:36,276 --> 00:41:39,758
Historically, Black
enslaved women were used
803
00:41:39,888 --> 00:41:45,764
for experimentation to move
ahead modern gynecology that we
804
00:41:45,894 --> 00:41:47,287
see today.
805
00:41:47,417 --> 00:41:50,290
They had these slave
hospitals where they would
806
00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:54,294
treat the pathologies of
Black women so they could save
807
00:41:54,424 --> 00:41:55,991
the lives of white women.
808
00:41:56,122 --> 00:41:59,342
And so by the time you move
from the late 19th century
809
00:41:59,473 --> 00:42:05,827
to the mid 20th century, you
have doctors who are getting
810
00:42:05,958 --> 00:42:10,484
the OK from the government to be
able to perform surgeries that
811
00:42:10,615 --> 00:42:14,053
essentially sterilize
Black women.
812
00:42:14,183 --> 00:42:17,709
In the South, Civil Rights
leader Fannie Lou Hamer
813
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:22,017
talked about being a
young woman in the 1950s
814
00:42:22,148 --> 00:42:23,889
and going in for a procedure.
815
00:42:24,019 --> 00:42:25,368
And, all of a
sudden, she finds out
816
00:42:25,499 --> 00:42:28,023
she has a Mississippi
appendectomy.
817
00:42:28,154 --> 00:42:31,157
She was essentially
sterilized by the doctor,
818
00:42:31,287 --> 00:42:33,986
who had never told her.
819
00:42:34,116 --> 00:42:36,684
She was told she was having
the tubes tied and that she
820
00:42:36,815 --> 00:42:39,208
could have undone
whatever she wanted.
821
00:42:39,339 --> 00:42:41,080
She asked to have the undone.
822
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:43,604
And now they told her that
her tube, it was not tied.
823
00:42:43,735 --> 00:42:46,781
It was clipped, which gives
her a lesser possibility of her
824
00:42:46,912 --> 00:42:48,566
ever becoming pregnant.
825
00:42:48,696 --> 00:42:50,829
I think it's wrong for anyone
to go into these things without
826
00:42:50,959 --> 00:42:53,396
fully knowing what
the possibilities.
827
00:42:53,527 --> 00:42:56,443
So I think that people try to
make you pay for being poor
828
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:58,663
and make you pay for
being glad and then--
829
00:42:58,793 --> 00:43:02,101
And being a woman.
830
00:43:02,231 --> 00:43:05,408
As women of color, our
fertility has always been
831
00:43:05,539 --> 00:43:06,409
managed.
832
00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:07,933
It's always been fear based.
833
00:43:08,063 --> 00:43:12,851
We had Indigenous women
that were also sterilized.
834
00:43:12,981 --> 00:43:15,331
In the '60s in
Los Angeles, there
835
00:43:15,462 --> 00:43:18,117
were immigrant Mexican
women that were also
836
00:43:18,247 --> 00:43:20,598
sterilized at the USC center.
837
00:43:20,728 --> 00:43:26,255
So we see these different
cases being repeated.
838
00:43:26,386 --> 00:43:30,477
By the '80s and the '90s,
all of a sudden in places like
839
00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:34,568
Harlem, in places like Detroit,
you start to see that Black
840
00:43:34,699 --> 00:43:38,485
women who receive aid from
the government being told,
841
00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:41,227
you can't live in
government housing anymore.
842
00:43:41,357 --> 00:43:43,751
We are not going to give
you food stamps for you
843
00:43:43,882 --> 00:43:46,101
and your children
unless you agree
844
00:43:46,232 --> 00:43:49,975
to get on a LARC,
long-acting contraceptive.
845
00:43:50,105 --> 00:43:52,368
And so all of a sudden,
you have these women
846
00:43:52,499 --> 00:43:54,457
who have Norplant implanted.
847
00:43:54,588 --> 00:43:56,677
And they're suffering
the consequences
848
00:43:56,808 --> 00:43:58,548
of these side effects.
849
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:01,856
And they don't know how
to take the implants out.
850
00:44:01,987 --> 00:44:04,076
Here you have women who are,
essentially, once again,
851
00:44:04,206 --> 00:44:06,034
being used as guinea pigs.
852
00:44:06,165 --> 00:44:11,300
And so although
they've been informed,
853
00:44:11,431 --> 00:44:13,868
what's the actual
choice when someone's
854
00:44:13,999 --> 00:44:16,697
telling you that your
economic livelihood is
855
00:44:16,828 --> 00:44:18,177
going to be affected?
856
00:44:18,307 --> 00:44:20,005
It turns them off
from getting health care.
857
00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:21,746
It does.
858
00:44:21,876 --> 00:44:23,182
If you need health care, you
don't even want to go get it
859
00:44:23,312 --> 00:44:25,053
if you have to go through
all those hassles.
860
00:44:25,184 --> 00:44:28,709
I have to be pushed by my
mother to go because I refused.
861
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,363
I mean, I really
refused to go over
862
00:44:30,493 --> 00:44:33,583
there and be hassled and
looked upon like I'm nobody.
863
00:44:33,714 --> 00:44:35,107
I am somebody.
864
00:44:35,237 --> 00:44:36,804
I may not have that much
money, but I am somebody.
865
00:44:36,935 --> 00:44:37,587
I'm me.
866
00:44:37,718 --> 00:44:40,329
That's right.
867
00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:42,288
I think that wound
is still around.
868
00:44:46,335 --> 00:44:49,338
I think the wound is still
actually being scraped over
869
00:44:49,469 --> 00:44:53,081
as newer and newer and newer
iterations of contraception
870
00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:53,995
come about.
871
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:58,783
Oh, hey.
872
00:44:58,913 --> 00:45:00,436
Did I tell you?
873
00:45:00,567 --> 00:45:02,308
My doctor told me about this
new low-dose birth control
874
00:45:02,438 --> 00:45:03,962
pill called Yaz.
875
00:45:04,092 --> 00:45:07,052
Yaz was the first oral
contraceptive to win FDA
876
00:45:07,182 --> 00:45:11,186
approval not just for preventing
pregnancy but for treating acne
877
00:45:11,317 --> 00:45:13,841
and the severe
premenstrual symptoms.
878
00:45:13,972 --> 00:45:15,756
Yaz can also help when
it comes to that time
879
00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:17,497
of the month.
880
00:45:17,627 --> 00:45:21,631
What's unique about Yaz is
that this was the first time
881
00:45:21,762 --> 00:45:23,982
that commercials
stepped onto the scene,
882
00:45:24,112 --> 00:45:27,333
promising us better health
beyond just controlling
883
00:45:27,463 --> 00:45:29,074
your reproductive health.
884
00:45:29,204 --> 00:45:31,424
This hormonal birth control
could solve all your lady part
885
00:45:31,554 --> 00:45:33,165
problems.
886
00:45:33,295 --> 00:45:34,993
Proven to treat the emotional
and physical premenstrual
887
00:45:35,123 --> 00:45:36,777
symptoms that are severe.
888
00:45:36,908 --> 00:45:39,214
But the ads actually promised
much more than what the FDA had
889
00:45:39,345 --> 00:45:40,128
approved it for.
890
00:45:42,827 --> 00:45:47,092
It started the summer
she came home from college.
891
00:45:47,222 --> 00:45:51,574
We took her to my gynecologist
to discuss birth control
892
00:45:51,705 --> 00:45:53,925
options.
893
00:45:54,055 --> 00:45:55,709
She said she put
me on the new pill.
894
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,408
And this is going to be
great because not only is
895
00:45:59,539 --> 00:46:01,759
this protection
against pregnancy,
896
00:46:01,889 --> 00:46:05,893
but it's going to
prevent against PMS.
897
00:46:06,024 --> 00:46:09,027
And it's going to
help with my acne.
898
00:46:09,157 --> 00:46:13,248
This was the miracle pill.
899
00:46:13,379 --> 00:46:17,339
She was returning
with her groceries,
900
00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:21,039
walking up to the third floor
of her apartment building.
901
00:46:21,169 --> 00:46:24,477
She collapsed on the
second floor level.
902
00:46:24,607 --> 00:46:28,916
A very large clot had broken
loose somewhere from her lower
903
00:46:29,047 --> 00:46:33,225
extremities and had
gone to her heart.
904
00:46:33,355 --> 00:46:36,968
You ask yourself, why does
something like this happen?
905
00:46:37,098 --> 00:46:38,839
And we spoke with
our friends who
906
00:46:38,970 --> 00:46:41,233
we were staying with
whose sister happened
907
00:46:41,363 --> 00:46:43,191
to be a physician.
908
00:46:43,322 --> 00:46:47,152
The first thing she said
to us was, was she on Yaz?
909
00:46:47,282 --> 00:46:48,327
And we said no.
910
00:46:48,457 --> 00:46:50,372
She wasn't on Yaz.
911
00:46:50,503 --> 00:46:54,724
But we found out that Loryna
was a generic version of Yaz.
912
00:46:58,990 --> 00:47:02,297
The problem is that it's the
fourth-generation progesterone
913
00:47:02,428 --> 00:47:03,951
called drospirenone.
914
00:47:04,082 --> 00:47:06,867
And drospirenone,
for some reason,
915
00:47:06,998 --> 00:47:09,652
has a much higher
risk for a blood clot
916
00:47:09,783 --> 00:47:12,220
and stroke and
pulmonary embolism
917
00:47:12,351 --> 00:47:15,745
than the previous
generation pills.
918
00:47:15,876 --> 00:47:19,445
The earlier generations
went off patent.
919
00:47:19,575 --> 00:47:22,796
So there wasn't a lot of
money to be made there.
920
00:47:22,927 --> 00:47:27,148
If they came out with a new
generation, a new progestin,
921
00:47:27,279 --> 00:47:29,063
that was considered
a brand drug.
922
00:47:29,194 --> 00:47:30,891
It was not a generic drug.
923
00:47:31,022 --> 00:47:32,937
They would then have
patent protection.
924
00:47:33,067 --> 00:47:36,288
And they could then charge more
so that the company could say,
925
00:47:36,418 --> 00:47:38,812
I have something better.
926
00:47:38,943 --> 00:47:43,512
But better doesn't always
mean that it's safer.
927
00:47:43,643 --> 00:47:47,560
The FDA approves drugs only
for a short period of time,
928
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:50,171
like six weeks for
acute use of the drug.
929
00:47:50,302 --> 00:47:54,349
And it's up to the
manufacturer to report
930
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,525
any adverse reactions.
931
00:47:56,656 --> 00:47:59,920
So what manufacturer who's
making billions of dollars
932
00:48:00,051 --> 00:48:05,360
has any incentive to
report an adverse reaction?
933
00:48:05,491 --> 00:48:07,710
65% of a pharmaceutical
company's budget is
934
00:48:07,841 --> 00:48:09,147
on advertising.
935
00:48:09,277 --> 00:48:10,365
It's on marketing.
936
00:48:10,496 --> 00:48:12,454
It's not on research
and development.
937
00:48:12,585 --> 00:48:14,674
It's not on safety studies.
938
00:48:14,804 --> 00:48:17,242
Who says all birth control
pills have to be the same?
939
00:48:17,372 --> 00:48:18,939
Who says?
940
00:48:19,070 --> 00:48:20,636
And that's usually where
the problem is happening.
941
00:48:20,767 --> 00:48:22,638
I mean, it's at that level of
the pharmaceutical industry
942
00:48:22,769 --> 00:48:24,423
of let's ignore the risks.
943
00:48:24,553 --> 00:48:26,555
Let's give women what they
want or think they want.
944
00:48:26,686 --> 00:48:28,688
Or let's sell them something
that they might not even
945
00:48:28,818 --> 00:48:30,211
know they want or need.
946
00:48:30,342 --> 00:48:31,909
It's all about the bottom line.
947
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:34,650
It's one of the most popular
pills on the market today.
948
00:48:34,781 --> 00:48:36,696
But our reporting
suggests that using it
949
00:48:36,826 --> 00:48:39,133
can increase the risk of
dangerous side effects
950
00:48:39,264 --> 00:48:40,874
that may even cause death.
951
00:48:41,005 --> 00:48:43,616
Research shows the pills
are linked with a higher risk
952
00:48:43,746 --> 00:48:45,096
for blood clots.
953
00:48:45,226 --> 00:48:47,707
So the FDA is stepping
in, holding a hearing
954
00:48:47,837 --> 00:48:51,363
to talk about these
health concerns.
955
00:48:51,493 --> 00:48:55,541
The twofold increase in
risk for venous thromboembolism
956
00:48:55,671 --> 00:49:02,591
in drospirenone is deemed an
acceptable risk and has been
957
00:49:02,722 --> 00:49:05,986
deemed an acceptable
risk in the past.
958
00:49:06,117 --> 00:49:09,163
Planned Parenthood was
speaking in favor of keeping
959
00:49:09,294 --> 00:49:13,167
the products on the market
because of this notion that
960
00:49:13,298 --> 00:49:16,649
the more options we
have, the better.
961
00:49:16,779 --> 00:49:22,002
But why is our risk tolerance
so high for something
962
00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:25,223
that is preventive,
that is going to impact,
963
00:49:25,353 --> 00:49:29,531
for all intents and purposes,
healthy individuals?
964
00:49:29,662 --> 00:49:31,446
Our daughter died from Yaz.
965
00:49:31,577 --> 00:49:33,796
Study after study,
including the FDA study,
966
00:49:33,927 --> 00:49:36,582
have shown for years that
DSRP kills and seriously harms
967
00:49:36,712 --> 00:49:39,106
significantly more women than
other birth control pills.
968
00:49:41,804 --> 00:49:44,677
Internal company documents
stated there was an increased
969
00:49:44,807 --> 00:49:46,461
risk of blood clots.
970
00:49:46,592 --> 00:49:50,639
But that statement was
not passed on to the FDA.
971
00:49:50,770 --> 00:49:53,729
They downplayed the bad news
that showed safety problems
972
00:49:53,860 --> 00:49:56,167
and highlighted the good news.
973
00:49:56,297 --> 00:49:59,039
And in my opinion, what
made this problematic
974
00:49:59,170 --> 00:50:01,215
was that they marketed
the drug saying
975
00:50:01,346 --> 00:50:04,436
that it worked for PMS
without the evidence,
976
00:50:04,566 --> 00:50:06,699
thereby convincing
women to switch
977
00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:10,311
to a potentially more dangerous
and more expensive drug.
978
00:50:10,442 --> 00:50:13,140
Had all this information
come to my desk,
979
00:50:13,271 --> 00:50:16,970
I do not think that I would
have approved this drug.
980
00:50:17,101 --> 00:50:19,190
The Kessler report was
not allowed to be given
981
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,890
to the panel based
on a technicality.
982
00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:27,981
After testimony, the
panel voted 15 to 11
983
00:50:28,112 --> 00:50:30,984
to keep the products
on the market.
984
00:50:31,115 --> 00:50:33,726
It was later revealed that
4 out of the 15 panelists
985
00:50:33,856 --> 00:50:38,992
who voted Yes had ties to Bayer
that they hadn't disclosed.
986
00:50:39,123 --> 00:50:40,515
We used to
believe in the FDA.
987
00:50:40,646 --> 00:50:42,300
We used to.
988
00:50:42,430 --> 00:50:44,693
But we don't anymore.
989
00:50:44,824 --> 00:50:46,217
The more we learn
about it, the more
990
00:50:46,347 --> 00:50:48,306
we realize that
the drug companies
991
00:50:48,436 --> 00:50:51,222
pay to get their drugs through.
992
00:50:51,352 --> 00:50:53,267
They have one interest in mind.
993
00:50:53,398 --> 00:50:56,140
And that is making money.
994
00:50:56,270 --> 00:50:59,795
Bayer had put aside
money to cover
995
00:50:59,926 --> 00:51:02,450
the costs of the litigation
in the United States.
996
00:51:02,581 --> 00:51:06,454
And the settlements that they
had expected, over $500 million
997
00:51:06,585 --> 00:51:07,890
in order to cover that.
998
00:51:08,021 --> 00:51:09,979
And the result of that
was their stockholders
999
00:51:10,110 --> 00:51:11,807
said, yeah, you got it covered.
1000
00:51:11,938 --> 00:51:13,374
Your stocks went up.
1001
00:51:13,505 --> 00:51:15,811
And so the question
is, is the FDA
1002
00:51:15,942 --> 00:51:18,597
promoting the safety of
the American people or
1003
00:51:18,727 --> 00:51:22,470
are they promoting the safety of
drug company and medical device
1004
00:51:22,601 --> 00:51:23,341
company profits?
1005
00:51:27,693 --> 00:51:29,912
Now, chances are you've
quickly skimmed the warning
1006
00:51:30,043 --> 00:51:32,567
label of potential side effects
without thinking about it that
1007
00:51:32,698 --> 00:51:33,960
much.
1008
00:51:34,091 --> 00:51:35,875
But in the case of
22-year-old Brittany,
1009
00:51:36,005 --> 00:51:39,835
that warning label
became a tragic reality.
1010
00:51:39,966 --> 00:51:42,447
Nothing will
ever fill that void.
1011
00:51:42,577 --> 00:51:44,188
I understand that.
1012
00:51:44,318 --> 00:51:47,408
And I know that NuvaRing came
out and offered a settlement
1013
00:51:47,539 --> 00:51:50,107
with families that
have been hurt by this.
1014
00:51:50,237 --> 00:51:53,458
What's your involvement
in the NuvaRing lawsuit?
1015
00:51:53,588 --> 00:51:54,937
We don't want their money.
1016
00:51:55,068 --> 00:51:56,504
We want them to do what's right.
1017
00:51:56,635 --> 00:52:00,639
We want them to fully
disclose the risks associated
1018
00:52:00,769 --> 00:52:02,119
with this product.
1019
00:52:02,249 --> 00:52:04,469
The FDA told us, "Based
on the FDA's review,
1020
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:06,993
which included several studies
looking at the blood clot risk
1021
00:52:07,124 --> 00:52:10,170
associated with NuvaRing, we
believe that the current label
1022
00:52:10,301 --> 00:52:12,694
appropriately addresses this
risk and includes information
1023
00:52:12,825 --> 00:52:15,132
about the product that will
allow patients and health-care
1024
00:52:15,262 --> 00:52:18,744
professionals to make an
informed medical decision."
1025
00:52:21,747 --> 00:52:23,270
I'm going to have
to find it for you.
1026
00:52:23,401 --> 00:52:25,359
But it's just a tiny--
1027
00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:26,795
Can we stop for a minute?
1028
00:52:26,926 --> 00:52:27,666
Oh, OK.
1029
00:52:27,796 --> 00:52:29,276
It doesn't matter.
1030
00:52:29,407 --> 00:52:31,409
OK, because it's going
to take me a bit to--
1031
00:52:38,894 --> 00:52:41,636
Who would read that?
1032
00:52:41,767 --> 00:52:43,247
It's probably not
bad if you do keep
1033
00:52:43,377 --> 00:52:45,162
rolling because you'll
see how freakin'
1034
00:52:45,292 --> 00:52:48,904
long it takes to look
through all this stuff.
1035
00:52:49,035 --> 00:52:54,345
It talks about if you smoke
may be associated with a higher
1036
00:52:54,475 --> 00:52:59,437
risk of venous
thromboembolism, VTE,
1037
00:52:59,567 --> 00:53:06,357
than COCs containing
the progestin thevo--
1038
00:53:06,487 --> 00:53:08,054
I can't even understand this.
1039
00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:11,927
I understand what it's saying
now because it's happened.
1040
00:53:12,058 --> 00:53:15,322
This needs to have a big old
label right on the front.
1041
00:53:15,453 --> 00:53:19,021
Like cigarettes say
"this can kill you,"
1042
00:53:19,152 --> 00:53:21,633
this needs to say
the same thing.
1043
00:53:21,763 --> 00:53:24,462
One popular birth control
method is being blamed by some
1044
00:53:24,592 --> 00:53:28,248
families in a lawsuit for
the deaths of loved ones.
1045
00:53:28,379 --> 00:53:31,469
Merck has agreed to pay
out $100 million to the many
1046
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:32,905
plaintiffs.
1047
00:53:33,035 --> 00:53:35,647
But Langhart's family
is refusing the offer.
1048
00:53:35,777 --> 00:53:38,084
They are pushing for
a black box warning,
1049
00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:41,435
which means you could
die from using it.
1050
00:53:41,566 --> 00:53:43,872
The FDA doesn't think
it is necessary.
1051
00:53:46,527 --> 00:53:49,138
If we can have a few
minutes for questions,
1052
00:53:49,269 --> 00:53:52,098
so why don't we just kind of go
back and forth and we'll start.
1053
00:53:52,229 --> 00:53:54,274
And if you could say your
name and where you're from,
1054
00:53:54,405 --> 00:53:55,101
that would be great.
1055
00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:56,581
Thanks.
1056
00:53:56,711 --> 00:53:58,147
Karen Langhart.
1057
00:53:58,278 --> 00:54:00,933
Together with a
growing, unfortunately,
1058
00:54:01,063 --> 00:54:05,503
number of parents, the question
we have for you is this.
1059
00:54:05,633 --> 00:54:08,854
If your daughter died as a
result of pulmonary embolisms,
1060
00:54:08,984 --> 00:54:13,337
stroke, or heart attack
because of the NuvaRing,
1061
00:54:13,467 --> 00:54:15,469
would you still
consider this drug
1062
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,691
as having an acceptable
risk factor, and especially
1063
00:54:19,821 --> 00:54:23,695
and particularly when there
are safer and more effective
1064
00:54:23,825 --> 00:54:27,612
alternative options
for birth control?
1065
00:54:31,833 --> 00:54:37,230
Well, first of all, I want
to express our most sincere
1066
00:54:37,361 --> 00:54:41,234
sympathy for the
loss of a child.
1067
00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:43,671
I can only imagine
how difficult that is.
1068
00:54:43,802 --> 00:54:44,716
You can't, actually.
1069
00:54:47,371 --> 00:54:54,856
Well, NuvaRing is like
all hormonal-containing
1070
00:54:54,987 --> 00:54:56,771
contraceptives.
1071
00:54:56,902 --> 00:55:03,387
And it was labeled with
warnings about thrombophlebitis
1072
00:55:03,517 --> 00:55:08,217
and pulmonary embolism,
as is the whole category.
1073
00:55:08,348 --> 00:55:10,959
This has been known
for a long time.
1074
00:55:11,090 --> 00:55:14,789
And we feel that the
drug has been labeled--
1075
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,706
was labeled appropriately.
1076
00:55:34,722 --> 00:55:39,248
This is not a
ridiculous low risk.
1077
00:55:39,379 --> 00:55:43,601
If people knew that, how
many would put their daughter
1078
00:55:43,731 --> 00:55:47,648
on a pill if she had
2% risk of getting
1079
00:55:47,779 --> 00:55:50,390
a thrombosis in 10 years?
1080
00:55:50,521 --> 00:55:55,656
The drug companies push the
statistic that says that these
1081
00:55:55,787 --> 00:55:59,356
types of drugs are
safer than pregnancy.
1082
00:55:59,486 --> 00:56:01,880
That in itself is
a huge problem.
1083
00:56:02,010 --> 00:56:04,926
What they ought to be
using is the comparison
1084
00:56:05,057 --> 00:56:10,367
between these types of drugs
and other forms of birth control
1085
00:56:10,497 --> 00:56:13,674
because there are safer
forms of birth control
1086
00:56:13,805 --> 00:56:16,851
than these third-generation
hormonal-based birth control
1087
00:56:16,982 --> 00:56:17,896
pills.
1088
00:56:18,026 --> 00:56:20,115
And I think that's a crime.
1089
00:56:31,518 --> 00:56:34,782
When is a product so risky
that it really shouldn't be
1090
00:56:34,913 --> 00:56:35,914
an option?
1091
00:56:36,044 --> 00:56:37,785
Birth control
is here to stay.
1092
00:56:37,916 --> 00:56:40,397
Happy birthday ACA.
1093
00:56:40,527 --> 00:56:43,574
The left will not consider
the possibility that there are
1094
00:56:43,704 --> 00:56:46,707
any dangers associated with
hormonal contraceptives
1095
00:56:46,838 --> 00:56:51,103
because it damages the push
for reproductive access
1096
00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:52,583
and reproductive care.
1097
00:56:52,713 --> 00:56:53,758
And that's important.
1098
00:56:53,888 --> 00:56:55,194
Women should have that.
1099
00:56:55,324 --> 00:56:56,674
But women are dying.
1100
00:56:56,804 --> 00:56:58,632
And I think women
are smart enough.
1101
00:56:58,763 --> 00:57:00,765
If you gave them
the information,
1102
00:57:00,895 --> 00:57:02,680
they'd say yes or no.
1103
00:57:02,810 --> 00:57:05,596
I still haven't heard a
response about the Yaz drug
1104
00:57:05,726 --> 00:57:08,642
or about NuvaRing and about how
it's wrecking women's bodies
1105
00:57:08,773 --> 00:57:11,123
by putting synthetic hormones
in them that men, by the way,
1106
00:57:11,253 --> 00:57:12,690
don't want to take, right?
1107
00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:14,735
But by the same token,
the right comes along
1108
00:57:14,866 --> 00:57:18,609
because they're so against
reproductive access that
1109
00:57:18,739 --> 00:57:22,351
if the left says anything, the
right takes it and warps it.
1110
00:57:22,482 --> 00:57:25,137
And you have this
continual escalation
1111
00:57:25,267 --> 00:57:28,357
of no one talking about what
needs to be talked about
1112
00:57:28,488 --> 00:57:30,534
and everybody entrenched
in their own sides.
1113
00:57:30,664 --> 00:57:33,885
I hear from Lila and people
like Lila that their ultimate
1114
00:57:34,015 --> 00:57:36,844
intent is to actually decrease
the number of abortions.
1115
00:57:36,975 --> 00:57:38,890
And yet we're blocking
all of the things
1116
00:57:39,020 --> 00:57:42,154
that we know actually
do allow women
1117
00:57:42,284 --> 00:57:44,025
to make informed
choices on the front end
1118
00:57:44,156 --> 00:57:45,984
and prevent unintended
pregnancies.
1119
00:57:46,114 --> 00:57:49,988
And so by
maintaining that fight,
1120
00:57:50,118 --> 00:57:55,472
it puts a veil over what can be
known or talked about in that
1121
00:57:55,602 --> 00:57:56,951
space.
1122
00:58:02,217 --> 00:58:04,655
We can bring more chairs
over here, more of these chairs.
1123
00:58:09,355 --> 00:58:11,531
So we're The Fifth
Vital Sign, Emily and I.
1124
00:58:11,662 --> 00:58:14,142
And we've been traveling
for six weeks now.
1125
00:58:14,273 --> 00:58:15,448
We have another six weeks to go.
1126
00:58:15,579 --> 00:58:16,231
And we're--
1127
00:58:16,362 --> 00:58:17,145
Somewhere.
1128
00:58:20,235 --> 00:58:24,239
We're teaching these free
reproductive health classes
1129
00:58:24,370 --> 00:58:28,722
in 63 locations, over 63
locations along the way.
1130
00:58:28,853 --> 00:58:31,551
And our mission is
to use education
1131
00:58:31,682 --> 00:58:34,206
as preventative care,
encouraging informed decision
1132
00:58:34,336 --> 00:58:36,121
making and body literacy.
1133
00:58:39,298 --> 00:58:41,692
I just want to really
focus on the way that we teach
1134
00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:43,781
fertility awareness method
because it's so secular.
1135
00:58:43,911 --> 00:58:46,435
And then I want to focus
on the informed choice
1136
00:58:46,566 --> 00:58:51,223
aspect as a toolkit and
then bring in these things.
1137
00:58:54,879 --> 00:58:57,316
Continue on I-10
East for 10 miles.
1138
00:58:57,446 --> 00:58:59,448
We've driven more
than England already.
1139
00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:01,973
It's nuts.
1140
00:59:02,103 --> 00:59:04,976
We felt like we couldn't
really speak about this stuff
1141
00:59:05,106 --> 00:59:08,283
unless we went to as many places
as we could in this country
1142
00:59:08,414 --> 00:59:12,549
and heard what people
were going through.
1143
00:59:12,679 --> 00:59:14,942
We would love if people
left the classes with knowledge
1144
00:59:15,073 --> 00:59:16,117
about their menstrual cycles.
1145
00:59:16,248 --> 00:59:17,510
But the most
important thing to us
1146
00:59:17,641 --> 00:59:19,207
is that people know
that they have options.
1147
00:59:19,338 --> 00:59:21,775
We want to move away from
fear-based education.
1148
00:59:21,906 --> 00:59:23,124
Oh yeah.
1149
00:59:23,255 --> 00:59:24,952
We could say, "We
recommend body literacy.
1150
00:59:25,083 --> 00:59:26,432
We recommend knowing
you're normal.
1151
00:59:26,563 --> 00:59:29,261
We recommend choosing
what's right for you."
1152
00:59:29,391 --> 00:59:31,002
In a quarter mile,
turn right on to--
1153
00:59:31,132 --> 00:59:31,698
Yes.
1154
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:32,743
Do you mind?
1155
00:59:32,873 --> 00:59:33,004
You can send it from my phone.
1156
00:59:39,140 --> 00:59:40,141
Every time.
1157
00:59:40,272 --> 00:59:43,188
Every time.
1158
00:59:43,318 --> 00:59:44,363
Thanks for having my back.
1159
00:59:44,493 --> 00:59:45,582
Hey.
1160
00:59:45,712 --> 00:59:48,759
Hi.
1161
00:59:48,889 --> 00:59:51,675
There's this idea that you
can get pregnant any time.
1162
00:59:51,805 --> 00:59:54,678
Part of dispelling some of that
fear and part of addressing it
1163
00:59:54,808 --> 00:59:57,463
is just looking at
what's actually there.
1164
00:59:57,594 --> 01:00:00,248
So that kind of brings me to
fertility awareness method.
1165
01:00:05,036 --> 01:00:08,648
The fertility awareness-based
methods are observational.
1166
01:00:08,779 --> 01:00:10,432
They're based on what's
actually happening
1167
01:00:10,563 --> 01:00:13,218
in your body in any given cycle.
1168
01:00:13,348 --> 01:00:15,568
It's sort of advanced sex ed.
1169
01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:17,004
How does my body work?
1170
01:00:17,135 --> 01:00:18,658
What is this stuff
coming out of me?
1171
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:20,486
How many days per
month am I fertile?
1172
01:00:20,617 --> 01:00:22,749
How long does an egg live?
1173
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,186
Each and every morning,
I take my temperature.
1174
01:00:25,317 --> 01:00:29,887
And I circle the
temperature on this graph.
1175
01:00:30,017 --> 01:00:32,367
And we connect the dots.
1176
01:00:32,498 --> 01:00:37,459
When I do finally ovulate, my
temperature spikes noticeably.
1177
01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:41,638
And that's one of the
signs you're looking for.
1178
01:00:41,768 --> 01:00:45,598
You're also monitoring
fluids that you're producing.
1179
01:00:45,729 --> 01:00:48,166
So everything should
correlate when
1180
01:00:48,296 --> 01:00:50,255
you're plotting all this info.
1181
01:00:50,385 --> 01:00:53,388
It gives you a lot more
control over your body
1182
01:00:53,519 --> 01:00:57,001
rather than relying on a
big pharmaceutical company
1183
01:00:57,131 --> 01:01:00,700
for something to
prevent pregnancy.
1184
01:01:00,831 --> 01:01:04,835
With perfect use, meaning
if somebody would take
1185
01:01:04,965 --> 01:01:08,403
their temperature every
day, check their cervix,
1186
01:01:08,534 --> 01:01:11,145
look at their cervical fluid
every day and record it
1187
01:01:11,276 --> 01:01:14,975
perfectly, then it
can be 99% accurate.
1188
01:01:15,106 --> 01:01:17,891
You're only fertile
for four or five days,
1189
01:01:18,022 --> 01:01:21,416
six days out of 32-day cycle.
1190
01:01:21,547 --> 01:01:24,289
When I discovered that I
can't get pregnant every single
1191
01:01:24,419 --> 01:01:26,900
day of my cycle, it
totally blew my mind.
1192
01:01:27,031 --> 01:01:30,295
And I felt in my case, it really
put the power in my hands.
1193
01:01:30,425 --> 01:01:34,995
To me, the most feminist
approach to the conversation
1194
01:01:35,126 --> 01:01:38,825
around contraceptives
period is options.
1195
01:01:38,956 --> 01:01:43,830
And I think if young women were
learning about their cycles
1196
01:01:43,961 --> 01:01:47,834
not from a contraceptive lens
but from an empowerment lens,
1197
01:01:47,965 --> 01:01:50,315
we could see a lot of
different things happening.
1198
01:01:57,670 --> 01:02:03,415
This is a conference that
is very, very long overdue.
1199
01:02:03,545 --> 01:02:04,938
There really is
so much that needs
1200
01:02:05,069 --> 01:02:06,984
to be understood about
contraceptives that we
1201
01:02:07,114 --> 01:02:09,987
could fill an entire week
of lectures and discussions.
1202
01:02:10,117 --> 01:02:12,859
What I keep coming back
to, however, is the notion
1203
01:02:12,990 --> 01:02:15,427
that if I can teach you how
to think about hormones,
1204
01:02:15,557 --> 01:02:17,516
then each of you can
find your own answers
1205
01:02:17,646 --> 01:02:20,084
and perhaps contribute
back to the knowledge base
1206
01:02:20,214 --> 01:02:23,043
so that we can all have a better
understanding of these issues.
1207
01:02:26,090 --> 01:02:27,004
Nice to meet you.
1208
01:02:27,134 --> 01:02:28,353
Thank you for coming.
1209
01:02:28,483 --> 01:02:31,008
Well, thank you
for what your--
1210
01:02:31,138 --> 01:02:32,661
your research is incredible.
1211
01:02:32,792 --> 01:02:34,402
Everything you do.
1212
01:02:34,533 --> 01:02:37,014
I highlighted more than I
didn't highlight of the things
1213
01:02:37,144 --> 01:02:37,884
you--
1214
01:02:38,015 --> 01:02:41,235
of the things you wrote.
1215
01:02:41,366 --> 01:02:43,760
This is the first time
I have been to something
1216
01:02:43,890 --> 01:02:47,589
like this with other parents.
1217
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:53,160
People are beginning to hear it
and beginning to understand it.
1218
01:02:53,291 --> 01:02:56,163
We've been collaborating with
Karen and Rick and with Michael
1219
01:02:56,294 --> 01:03:00,037
and Jane Alexander to figure
out, how do we spread the word?
1220
01:03:00,167 --> 01:03:01,952
It's going to be a
very big challenge.
1221
01:03:02,082 --> 01:03:05,433
The system just protects
the pharmaceuticals
1222
01:03:05,564 --> 01:03:09,263
so well that it's tough
to get anything done.
1223
01:03:09,394 --> 01:03:13,659
To get anything in front of
FDA is extremely difficult.
1224
01:03:13,790 --> 01:03:15,966
So we're just trying
to figure out now
1225
01:03:16,096 --> 01:03:18,620
how we can make a difference.
1226
01:03:18,751 --> 01:03:21,449
So you see deaths,
hospitalization,
1227
01:03:21,580 --> 01:03:23,800
and then the amount
of prescriptions.
1228
01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:25,802
Yeah, I actually
have some graphs.
1229
01:03:25,932 --> 01:03:27,542
But I just didn't
include them here.
1230
01:03:27,673 --> 01:03:28,892
So I wanted to give--
1231
01:03:29,022 --> 01:03:29,893
This is fantastic.
1232
01:03:30,023 --> 01:03:31,808
Just fact finding, right?
1233
01:03:31,938 --> 01:03:33,244
Yes, it's just
digging through.
1234
01:03:33,374 --> 01:03:34,462
And this is stuff
that should have been
1235
01:03:34,593 --> 01:03:35,507
readily available to anybody--
1236
01:03:35,637 --> 01:03:36,943
Totally.
1237
01:03:37,074 --> 01:03:38,815
who looked and
to all the physicians.
1238
01:03:38,945 --> 01:03:40,512
You should have seen how hard
it was just to get this from
1239
01:03:40,642 --> 01:03:41,339
the FDA.
1240
01:03:41,469 --> 01:03:43,036
I understand it.
1241
01:03:43,167 --> 01:03:45,299
I want it to be validated
by somebody that's credible
1242
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:47,693
because the first thing that's
going to happen if I publish
1243
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,042
this, Joe is a grieving father.
1244
01:03:49,173 --> 01:03:50,261
He has no medical background.
1245
01:03:50,391 --> 01:03:51,697
They're going
to do that anyway.
1246
01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:52,654
Piece of crap.
1247
01:03:52,785 --> 01:03:54,265
They'll do that anyway.
1248
01:03:54,395 --> 01:03:57,834
And they'll do that to
whomever actually validates it.
1249
01:03:57,964 --> 01:04:01,881
If you have a $17 billion a
year market already that's
1250
01:04:02,012 --> 01:04:06,755
out there using it regularly,
why would you do any of this?
1251
01:04:06,886 --> 01:04:09,715
And so to get this
information out there,
1252
01:04:09,846 --> 01:04:12,631
it really relies on
folks like yourself.
1253
01:04:12,761 --> 01:04:15,939
We had a discussion last
night about side effects.
1254
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:19,507
And you said, your daughter
didn't have any side effects.
1255
01:04:19,638 --> 01:04:23,207
That's what we thought until
we started looking back
1256
01:04:23,337 --> 01:04:27,472
in time of how Brittany felt
over the last couple of years.
1257
01:04:27,602 --> 01:04:31,737
And early-onset indicators
were that she had migraines.
1258
01:04:31,868 --> 01:04:33,043
And we took her to the doctor.
1259
01:04:33,173 --> 01:04:36,089
And they gave her
a decongestant.
1260
01:04:36,220 --> 01:04:39,049
And it wasn't until
I spoke with somebody
1261
01:04:39,179 --> 01:04:41,268
at a contraceptive
technology conference
1262
01:04:41,399 --> 01:04:42,835
that the doctor
said, oh my gosh,
1263
01:04:42,966 --> 01:04:46,752
those are early warning
signs that those hormones
1264
01:04:46,883 --> 01:04:48,319
don't agree with her.
1265
01:04:48,449 --> 01:04:51,322
Our daughter was
complaining of some things that
1266
01:04:51,452 --> 01:04:54,760
in retrospect should
have been warning signs.
1267
01:04:54,891 --> 01:04:55,848
And we didn't know.
1268
01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:57,284
She didn't know.
1269
01:04:57,415 --> 01:04:58,895
Why didn't we know this?
1270
01:04:59,025 --> 01:05:00,070
Why don't doctors know this?
1271
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,549
But the doctors
don't know this.
1272
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,682
It's not until
there's a death, I think,
1273
01:05:03,812 --> 01:05:05,292
that some of their eyes open.
1274
01:05:05,423 --> 01:05:07,512
You may not even see that
because of the separation
1275
01:05:07,642 --> 01:05:09,383
of primary care
with hospitalists.
1276
01:05:09,514 --> 01:05:11,908
So you may never
have that feedback
1277
01:05:12,038 --> 01:05:15,041
to see that there was a
death or a serious event
1278
01:05:15,172 --> 01:05:18,566
because it never
gets back to them.
1279
01:05:38,891 --> 01:05:41,067
You know how some of the
doctor's offices have these
1280
01:05:41,198 --> 01:05:43,765
screens, where they do
little vignettes that roll?
1281
01:05:43,896 --> 01:05:46,638
And I thought, well, I
wonder if there's an avenue.
1282
01:05:46,768 --> 01:05:48,292
You've got to capture audience.
1283
01:05:48,422 --> 01:05:51,208
Perhaps it's sitting
in a doctor's office,
1284
01:05:51,338 --> 01:05:52,818
in a waiting room,
has nothing to do
1285
01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:54,167
but look at their cell phone.
1286
01:05:54,298 --> 01:05:55,429
So what are the
signs of a blood clot?
1287
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,822
What are the signs
of a blood clot?
1288
01:05:56,953 --> 01:05:57,866
That's a great idea.
1289
01:05:57,997 --> 01:05:59,694
Is this a poster?
1290
01:05:59,825 --> 01:06:02,045
I see this
potentially as a poster.
1291
01:06:02,175 --> 01:06:06,527
Or a handout that is given
at a pharmacy or just given out
1292
01:06:06,658 --> 01:06:08,355
at a college.
1293
01:06:08,486 --> 01:06:10,183
The question is,
is this enough to get
1294
01:06:10,314 --> 01:06:11,968
people's attention?
1295
01:06:12,098 --> 01:06:16,015
We use blood clot signs and
symptoms in our presentation.
1296
01:06:16,146 --> 01:06:18,800
And we don't address doctors.
1297
01:06:18,931 --> 01:06:20,324
We address women directly.
1298
01:06:20,454 --> 01:06:22,630
And then we really focus
on the idea of friendship
1299
01:06:22,761 --> 01:06:26,373
because that's where women
make these kinds of decisions.
1300
01:06:26,504 --> 01:06:29,594
And I think this will be best
presented as a short Instagram
1301
01:06:29,724 --> 01:06:30,595
post.
1302
01:06:30,725 --> 01:06:31,988
I want to get there first.
1303
01:06:32,118 --> 01:06:33,641
I want to talk about
this stuff before there
1304
01:06:33,772 --> 01:06:36,340
at the doctor's office because
I'm trying to win at this.
1305
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:37,863
I'm serious.
1306
01:06:37,994 --> 01:06:41,388
What's happened to your
kids can't happen anymore.
1307
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:44,000
I think the reason that
The Fifth Vital Sign has been
1308
01:06:44,130 --> 01:06:47,525
successful is because they
eliminate that barrier.
1309
01:06:47,655 --> 01:06:49,918
They just go out and do it.
1310
01:06:50,049 --> 01:06:52,573
This whole system is not
called the uterus, right?
1311
01:06:52,704 --> 01:06:53,966
This part is the uterus.
1312
01:06:54,097 --> 01:06:55,794
But there's also
the fallopian tubes.
1313
01:06:55,924 --> 01:06:57,404
There's also the ovaries.
1314
01:07:00,059 --> 01:07:01,974
This is a
nonmenstruating uterus.
1315
01:07:02,105 --> 01:07:03,889
And this is a
menstruating uterus.
1316
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:05,760
And it doubles in weight.
1317
01:07:05,891 --> 01:07:06,544
Dental dam.
1318
01:07:06,674 --> 01:07:07,371
Dental dam.
1319
01:07:07,501 --> 01:07:09,025
Dental dam.
1320
01:07:09,155 --> 01:07:10,591
I've used those before.
1321
01:07:12,289 --> 01:07:14,987
It's called dental dam
because they use that--
1322
01:07:15,118 --> 01:07:15,944
in dental surgery.
1323
01:07:16,075 --> 01:07:17,033
in dental surgery.
1324
01:07:17,163 --> 01:07:19,078
Oh, true, true.
1325
01:07:19,209 --> 01:07:21,080
I thought we were
getting some gossip.
1326
01:07:21,211 --> 01:07:24,692
Worth the copay, for sure.
1327
01:07:24,823 --> 01:07:26,868
So now you know each
other a little bit better.
1328
01:07:29,871 --> 01:07:32,222
I think we need to trust
and leverage the knowledge
1329
01:07:32,352 --> 01:07:34,789
and wisdom of the
younger generation.
1330
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,924
So hats off to whatever you're
doing and how you do it.
1331
01:07:39,055 --> 01:07:41,013
There's power in
aligning our messages.
1332
01:07:41,144 --> 01:07:43,233
As you guys have
said, if we all start
1333
01:07:43,363 --> 01:07:45,365
using each other's
methods, everybody's
1334
01:07:45,496 --> 01:07:47,585
got their own little niche.
1335
01:07:47,715 --> 01:07:49,108
Start leveraging.
1336
01:07:59,510 --> 01:08:03,296
I think that lots of
women have relatively little
1337
01:08:03,427 --> 01:08:05,864
information about their bodies.
1338
01:08:05,994 --> 01:08:08,780
When we take ownership,
we allow ourselves
1339
01:08:08,910 --> 01:08:14,481
to give consent in a totally
whole and informed way.
1340
01:08:14,612 --> 01:08:17,876
Yeah, OK, where's
the flashlight?
1341
01:08:18,006 --> 01:08:21,184
Why don't you hold it
when you're looking at--
1342
01:08:21,314 --> 01:08:25,579
The feminist health movement
of the 1970s was very skeptical
1343
01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:27,625
of the pharmaceutical industry.
1344
01:08:27,755 --> 01:08:31,063
And it was very
curious and interested
1345
01:08:31,194 --> 01:08:33,326
in female physiology.
1346
01:08:33,457 --> 01:08:35,067
And then we had Roe v. Wade.
1347
01:08:35,198 --> 01:08:39,419
And the energy of the
mainstream women's movement
1348
01:08:39,550 --> 01:08:43,597
really turned away from
the body and toward women
1349
01:08:43,728 --> 01:08:45,251
getting power in society.
1350
01:08:54,304 --> 01:08:56,523
The idea was, let's
stop playing doctor
1351
01:08:56,654 --> 01:09:00,048
and let's become doctors.
1352
01:09:00,179 --> 01:09:02,964
Most OB-GYNS are women now.
1353
01:09:03,095 --> 01:09:05,924
But when you look at
reproductive health in the US,
1354
01:09:06,054 --> 01:09:08,448
we're actually falling behind.
1355
01:09:08,579 --> 01:09:13,061
We're still in the dark
ages in a lot of ways
1356
01:09:13,192 --> 01:09:17,414
in supporting
women in childbirth
1357
01:09:17,544 --> 01:09:21,679
and in keeping women
healthy through menopause.
1358
01:09:21,809 --> 01:09:24,508
It's a very left-brain
patriarchal medical system that
1359
01:09:24,638 --> 01:09:27,641
we were taught about in school,
very pharmaceutical-based,
1360
01:09:27,772 --> 01:09:29,382
very science-based.
1361
01:09:29,513 --> 01:09:32,080
And I feel like a lot of us
missed the boat on women's
1362
01:09:32,211 --> 01:09:34,648
health as medical doctors.
1363
01:09:34,779 --> 01:09:36,302
In seven years
of medical training,
1364
01:09:36,433 --> 01:09:39,697
I had not one single moment
of anyone ever saying,
1365
01:09:39,827 --> 01:09:42,961
and when you educate
women about the pill,
1366
01:09:43,091 --> 01:09:44,876
you need to tell them
this or tell them that.
1367
01:09:45,006 --> 01:09:47,792
The problem is not
the individual doctor.
1368
01:09:47,922 --> 01:09:50,534
It's actually being
steeped in a system that
1369
01:09:50,664 --> 01:09:52,927
has been misogynistic
from day one,
1370
01:09:53,058 --> 01:09:57,584
where a concept of
hysteria or hypochondria,
1371
01:09:57,715 --> 01:09:59,543
which is completely
attributed to women,
1372
01:09:59,673 --> 01:10:04,025
has led to women largely
being invisible and dismissed.
1373
01:10:04,156 --> 01:10:09,509
For me, it's how do we change
the field around the fictions
1374
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,599
of gender and sex
and race and class,
1375
01:10:12,730 --> 01:10:15,254
no matter whose neck the
stethoscope is around?
1376
01:10:25,308 --> 01:10:26,004
Hello.
1377
01:10:26,134 --> 01:10:26,700
Good morning.
1378
01:10:26,831 --> 01:10:27,440
Good morning.
1379
01:10:27,571 --> 01:10:28,136
Welcome to TF.
1380
01:10:28,267 --> 01:10:29,137
Thank you.
1381
01:10:29,268 --> 01:10:29,660
How are you doing today?
1382
01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:30,356
Well.
1383
01:10:30,487 --> 01:10:30,878
How are you?
1384
01:10:31,009 --> 01:10:32,184
Good.
1385
01:10:32,315 --> 01:10:32,663
Are you here for a
9:45 appointment?
1386
01:10:32,793 --> 01:10:34,230
Yes.
1387
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:35,622
We're just going to go
through it page by page,
1388
01:10:35,753 --> 01:10:38,843
make sure everything is correct.
1389
01:10:38,973 --> 01:10:42,499
I never know if I'm Hispanic
or Latino because I am.
1390
01:10:42,629 --> 01:10:44,892
But I definitely think you
cannot be Black and Hispanic,
1391
01:10:45,023 --> 01:10:45,937
so.
1392
01:10:46,067 --> 01:10:46,981
You can leave that part.
1393
01:10:47,112 --> 01:10:48,200
We really offered that--
1394
01:10:48,331 --> 01:10:49,767
we really just need
your birthdate.
1395
01:10:49,897 --> 01:10:51,377
And then when you get to
the insurance portion,
1396
01:10:51,508 --> 01:10:52,900
just let me know and I'll
take over from there.
1397
01:10:53,031 --> 01:10:53,727
Sure.
1398
01:10:53,858 --> 01:10:54,511
Thank you so much.
1399
01:10:54,641 --> 01:10:55,163
You're welcome.
1400
01:10:58,079 --> 01:10:59,559
Oh yeah.
1401
01:10:59,690 --> 01:11:02,475
So typically, what would
happen is a patient signs up
1402
01:11:02,606 --> 01:11:04,521
and then she books
her own appointment.
1403
01:11:04,651 --> 01:11:07,045
We also ask this question,
which is, what does
1404
01:11:07,175 --> 01:11:08,438
optimal health mean to you?
1405
01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:10,091
But typically you
would say a goal here.
1406
01:11:10,222 --> 01:11:11,441
So whatever--
1407
01:11:11,571 --> 01:11:12,877
That's nice.
1408
01:11:13,007 --> 01:11:14,531
I think to have goals
is interesting and is
1409
01:11:14,661 --> 01:11:16,968
new in medicine because most
people don't have a goal.
1410
01:11:17,098 --> 01:11:18,622
How often have you
been to the doctor do
1411
01:11:18,752 --> 01:11:20,014
they ever ask you your goals?
1412
01:11:20,145 --> 01:11:20,885
Never until today.
1413
01:11:21,015 --> 01:11:21,799
There are no goals.
1414
01:11:21,929 --> 01:11:22,669
That's why we do it.
1415
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:23,191
Those are my goals.
1416
01:11:23,322 --> 01:11:23,714
Yeah.
1417
01:11:23,844 --> 01:11:24,541
Exactly.
1418
01:11:24,671 --> 01:11:26,020
There you have it.
1419
01:11:26,151 --> 01:11:28,675
I was inspired to jump
into women's health
1420
01:11:28,806 --> 01:11:31,069
after going through my own
frustrating series of women's
1421
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:32,810
health care issues,
intricately connected
1422
01:11:32,940 --> 01:11:35,203
to the struggle of finding
the right birth control
1423
01:11:35,334 --> 01:11:37,684
as a problem and solution.
1424
01:11:37,815 --> 01:11:40,165
I started to solve one
problem, which was just
1425
01:11:40,296 --> 01:11:41,949
to help women find the
right birth control,
1426
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:46,171
and realized how, ironically,
that was this integral question
1427
01:11:46,302 --> 01:11:49,522
and challenge connected
to so many other issues
1428
01:11:49,653 --> 01:11:51,872
that women face
around their health.
1429
01:11:52,003 --> 01:11:54,222
Then three years
later, we have a fully
1430
01:11:54,353 --> 01:11:55,920
operating brick-and-mortar
women's health
1431
01:11:56,050 --> 01:11:57,791
practice that's
trying to redefine
1432
01:11:57,922 --> 01:11:58,923
what women's health is.
1433
01:12:03,231 --> 01:12:03,884
Hi.
1434
01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:04,885
Hello, Avery.
1435
01:12:05,016 --> 01:12:05,712
How are you?
1436
01:12:05,843 --> 01:12:07,845
Dr. Moritz.
1437
01:12:07,975 --> 01:12:09,803
How can I help you?
1438
01:12:09,934 --> 01:12:12,458
After 30 some years
of delivering babies,
1439
01:12:12,589 --> 01:12:14,678
I was looking for a way
to continue that but more
1440
01:12:14,808 --> 01:12:18,899
in the gynecology side, I
see the younger people now
1441
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:22,425
actually wanting to avoid
hormonal contraception.
1442
01:12:22,555 --> 01:12:26,472
And I think it has to
do with the entire idea
1443
01:12:26,603 --> 01:12:28,692
of eating right.
1444
01:12:28,822 --> 01:12:33,871
And everything that goes into
their body, they think about.
1445
01:12:34,001 --> 01:12:37,701
So I've had a lot of issues
my whole life with my cycle
1446
01:12:37,831 --> 01:12:38,876
and my period.
1447
01:12:39,006 --> 01:12:40,747
I was irregular always.
1448
01:12:40,878 --> 01:12:44,534
So at 14, they put me on
birth control to regulate me.
1449
01:12:44,664 --> 01:12:46,840
With me getting
liver lesions, now I
1450
01:12:46,971 --> 01:12:48,973
have this aversion towards it.
1451
01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:50,975
Hormones are so complex.
1452
01:12:51,105 --> 01:12:53,586
So if you're saying
to me, Dr. McClellan,
1453
01:12:53,717 --> 01:12:57,938
do you think hormonal
contraception has side effects,
1454
01:12:58,069 --> 01:13:00,854
absolutely, for sure.
1455
01:13:00,985 --> 01:13:02,900
Then why should I take it?
1456
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:04,815
You don't have to take it.
1457
01:13:04,945 --> 01:13:08,166
Now, can you avoid pregnancy
not using any hormone
1458
01:13:08,296 --> 01:13:09,123
contraception?
1459
01:13:09,254 --> 01:13:10,386
Absolutely.
1460
01:13:10,516 --> 01:13:11,952
It takes more work.
1461
01:13:12,083 --> 01:13:15,086
You have to be really
thoughtful, double barrier,
1462
01:13:15,216 --> 01:13:18,611
and also using some
sort of ovulatory window
1463
01:13:18,742 --> 01:13:20,874
predictive analytic.
1464
01:13:21,005 --> 01:13:23,703
We wanted the doctors to
feel more like consultants
1465
01:13:23,834 --> 01:13:27,664
in their health care than a
dogmatic provider that's just
1466
01:13:27,794 --> 01:13:30,449
telling you what to
do with zero options.
1467
01:13:30,580 --> 01:13:33,757
But the ultimate arbiter
of choice is the patient.
1468
01:14:03,526 --> 01:14:06,137
I was working as a
management consultant.
1469
01:14:06,267 --> 01:14:09,314
And my wife at night
was waking me up
1470
01:14:09,445 --> 01:14:13,666
and was complaining that
she had cramps in her leg.
1471
01:14:13,797 --> 01:14:18,323
She went to doctors and finally
some homeopath asked her
1472
01:14:18,454 --> 01:14:19,542
if she was taking the pill.
1473
01:14:19,672 --> 01:14:23,110
And she was saying, what else?
1474
01:14:23,241 --> 01:14:26,549
He said, well,
leave off the pill.
1475
01:14:26,679 --> 01:14:28,072
And she did.
1476
01:14:28,202 --> 01:14:31,118
And after a few weeks,
those cramps disappeared.
1477
01:14:33,904 --> 01:14:36,602
Fortunately, this
estrogen and progesterone
1478
01:14:36,733 --> 01:14:41,041
can change over the cycle and
they have opposite terminal
1479
01:14:41,172 --> 01:14:43,130
effects on the individual.
1480
01:14:43,261 --> 01:14:47,787
And these different terminal
effects you can measure.
1481
01:14:47,918 --> 01:14:49,876
We started with Baby-Comp.
1482
01:14:50,007 --> 01:14:53,750
Then we came up with
Lady-Comp and Pearly.
1483
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,929
Now we also have an app
version that's called Daysy.
1484
01:14:59,059 --> 01:15:01,845
I always like to tell people
about the apps that there are
1485
01:15:01,975 --> 01:15:03,150
available.
1486
01:15:03,281 --> 01:15:06,153
This is Daysy.
1487
01:15:06,284 --> 01:15:08,982
So I'll pass it around and
everybody can have a look.
1488
01:15:09,113 --> 01:15:12,508
Daysy has its own thermometer,
which I think is really cool.
1489
01:15:12,638 --> 01:15:14,684
You press it and you take
your temperature every day.
1490
01:15:14,814 --> 01:15:16,250
It learns you for
three months, just
1491
01:15:16,381 --> 01:15:18,035
like you would with a
fertility awareness method.
1492
01:15:18,165 --> 01:15:21,778
And then after three
months, you can use it.
1493
01:15:21,908 --> 01:15:24,171
Could an app replace
the birth control pill?
1494
01:15:24,302 --> 01:15:26,652
With tools and apps
for nearly everything,
1495
01:15:26,783 --> 01:15:29,916
it's not surprising our mobile
devices can also dictate some
1496
01:15:30,047 --> 01:15:32,049
of what we do in the bedroom.
1497
01:15:32,179 --> 01:15:34,399
I think I've gone through
most of the different types
1498
01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:36,488
of contraceptives
that there are.
1499
01:15:36,619 --> 01:15:38,708
And none of them seem
to be a very good fit.
1500
01:15:38,838 --> 01:15:41,493
My dream was, what
if I could just know
1501
01:15:41,624 --> 01:15:43,234
exactly where I am in my cycle?
1502
01:15:43,364 --> 01:15:45,192
Then I would know which
few days per cycle I
1503
01:15:45,323 --> 01:15:46,890
have to use a condom.
1504
01:15:47,020 --> 01:15:48,369
That would be fine instead
of having to go and navigate
1505
01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:50,763
that question every time.
1506
01:15:50,894 --> 01:15:53,374
So we built an app, which is
kind of a general tracking app.
1507
01:15:53,505 --> 01:15:55,028
And people used it
to get pregnant.
1508
01:15:55,159 --> 01:15:57,553
People used it to understand
when the next period is coming.
1509
01:15:57,683 --> 01:15:59,816
They used it for many
different reasons.
1510
01:15:59,946 --> 01:16:01,948
I think if you come
with a full data set
1511
01:16:02,079 --> 01:16:04,821
and bring it to your doctor,
you are enabling your doctor
1512
01:16:04,951 --> 01:16:06,387
to do a great job.
1513
01:16:06,518 --> 01:16:08,564
So I think it's a very
empowering thing that women
1514
01:16:08,694 --> 01:16:12,176
can actually come and
not just be an average
1515
01:16:12,306 --> 01:16:13,786
but be like, no, it's my body.
1516
01:16:13,917 --> 01:16:15,353
This is what's going on.
1517
01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:24,667
Hey.
1518
01:16:24,797 --> 01:16:26,233
How's it going?
1519
01:16:26,364 --> 01:16:27,887
Things are good.
1520
01:16:28,018 --> 01:16:29,889
We're kind of building
out our calendar for 2020.
1521
01:16:30,020 --> 01:16:33,806
So there's a lot of excitement
and a lot of possibilities.
1522
01:16:33,937 --> 01:16:36,766
And so I'm really excited.
1523
01:16:36,896 --> 01:16:38,855
I think we're like
sitting in a moment
1524
01:16:38,985 --> 01:16:42,293
now where we get to reflect
on a changing landscape.
1525
01:16:42,423 --> 01:16:43,903
We have the Women's March.
1526
01:16:44,034 --> 01:16:45,601
We have the #MeToo movement.
1527
01:16:45,731 --> 01:16:49,256
We have broad stroke movements
inside of this landscape.
1528
01:16:49,387 --> 01:16:51,694
But we still also have this
deep level of suspicion
1529
01:16:51,824 --> 01:16:53,696
around where is our victory?
1530
01:16:53,826 --> 01:16:56,394
Where is our liberation
and our freedom?
1531
01:16:56,524 --> 01:16:59,963
That's the complex relationship
that I think all women really
1532
01:17:00,093 --> 01:17:03,531
have had with hormonal birth
control, with contraception.
1533
01:17:03,662 --> 01:17:05,359
How do we build
more Tia clinics?
1534
01:17:05,490 --> 01:17:08,711
How do we build more
accessible spaces?
1535
01:17:08,841 --> 01:17:10,974
How do we build
more interventions
1536
01:17:11,104 --> 01:17:14,542
while also holding accountable
the institutions that currently
1537
01:17:14,673 --> 01:17:16,806
exist?
1538
01:17:16,936 --> 01:17:18,503
So Planned Parenthood
New York City
1539
01:17:18,634 --> 01:17:20,331
approached Black
Woman's Blueprint
1540
01:17:20,461 --> 01:17:23,769
to support them in a truth
and reckoning process.
1541
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:27,077
So that process is
specifically to look
1542
01:17:27,207 --> 01:17:30,689
at the legacy of Planned
Parenthood's relationship
1543
01:17:30,820 --> 01:17:32,822
to their communities
and the communities
1544
01:17:32,952 --> 01:17:34,345
where they are stationed.
1545
01:17:34,475 --> 01:17:36,956
What are the historical
and even, I'd say,
1546
01:17:37,087 --> 01:17:39,785
institutionalized violences
that Planned Parenthood
1547
01:17:39,916 --> 01:17:45,182
has caused as a result
of several participants
1548
01:17:45,312 --> 01:17:48,794
in its history, but
namely Margaret Sanger,
1549
01:17:48,925 --> 01:17:52,624
who the main headquarters
is still named for?
1550
01:17:52,755 --> 01:17:56,628
And so the legacy of
her hand in eugenics,
1551
01:17:56,759 --> 01:18:00,806
the legacy of her hand
in distributing birth
1552
01:18:00,937 --> 01:18:03,766
control to communities
and populations
1553
01:18:03,896 --> 01:18:07,291
really as a form of erasing
those communities and even
1554
01:18:07,421 --> 01:18:11,295
full races of individuals
and people and populations--
1555
01:18:11,425 --> 01:18:13,079
what does it look
like to actually do
1556
01:18:13,210 --> 01:18:16,039
the truth-telling work around
that so that Planned Parenthood
1557
01:18:16,169 --> 01:18:18,955
can actually be the stand that
it is in community, right,
1558
01:18:19,085 --> 01:18:23,307
creating access while also
being held accountable
1559
01:18:23,437 --> 01:18:25,004
for past harms.
1560
01:18:25,135 --> 01:18:27,920
Each Planned Parenthood
isn't the same as the other.
1561
01:18:28,051 --> 01:18:28,704
Yeah.
1562
01:18:28,834 --> 01:18:30,270
That's right.
1563
01:18:30,401 --> 01:18:31,489
There are some things
that they follow, of course.
1564
01:18:31,619 --> 01:18:33,839
But the cultures
and the communities
1565
01:18:33,970 --> 01:18:35,493
play a huge impact in that.
1566
01:18:35,623 --> 01:18:38,191
And so the recognition,
which is great,
1567
01:18:38,322 --> 01:18:39,976
I think is just the first step.
1568
01:18:40,106 --> 01:18:42,282
It's really exciting that
the work is moving forward.
1569
01:18:42,413 --> 01:18:44,328
I think, again, it's
the what's next, right?
1570
01:18:44,458 --> 01:18:46,678
After accountability
has been claimed,
1571
01:18:46,809 --> 01:18:49,159
how do we ensure
sustained accountability?
1572
01:18:49,289 --> 01:18:53,119
And how do we ensure community
voice is always heard?
1573
01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:56,949
We want people to have
information, real information.
1574
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,256
And let's see what people do
with that real information
1575
01:18:59,386 --> 01:19:01,258
once they really know.
1576
01:19:01,388 --> 01:19:08,047
Do we get our policymakers
to look at the really smart
1577
01:19:08,178 --> 01:19:13,574
and proven work of
reproductive justice activists?
1578
01:19:13,705 --> 01:19:17,230
In the 1990s, you had
a group of Black women
1579
01:19:17,361 --> 01:19:20,799
who began a reproductive
justice movement.
1580
01:19:20,930 --> 01:19:25,021
Loretta Ross is one of the
more well-known activists.
1581
01:19:25,151 --> 01:19:30,243
And what they're really doing is
holding these doctors but also
1582
01:19:30,374 --> 01:19:33,856
the medical establishment
responsible for the damage
1583
01:19:33,986 --> 01:19:35,640
that they're ultimately doing.
1584
01:19:35,771 --> 01:19:37,337
No justice, no peace.
1585
01:19:37,468 --> 01:19:40,079
No justice, no peace.
1586
01:19:40,210 --> 01:19:42,342
That's the frontier that
we're involved in right now
1587
01:19:42,473 --> 01:19:47,347
in terms of feminists who are
fighting around birth control.
1588
01:19:47,478 --> 01:19:50,611
I went to the United State
of Women, the first major event.
1589
01:19:50,742 --> 01:19:55,225
I was there for my work as a
reproductive health advocate.
1590
01:19:55,355 --> 01:19:57,270
When they said,
reproductive rights,
1591
01:19:57,401 --> 01:20:00,143
which was one of the huge
banners, all they were talking
1592
01:20:00,273 --> 01:20:01,971
about was birth control.
1593
01:20:02,101 --> 01:20:04,364
And it was birth control and
abortion, one or the other,
1594
01:20:04,495 --> 01:20:06,105
right?
1595
01:20:06,236 --> 01:20:10,718
And I said, but what about
women's wellness and everything
1596
01:20:10,849 --> 01:20:13,547
that it takes for us to
actually live healthy?
1597
01:20:13,678 --> 01:20:18,204
If we're being given these
hormonal contraceptives without
1598
01:20:18,335 --> 01:20:20,554
the proper information, then
it's not liberating for me.
1599
01:20:20,685 --> 01:20:23,949
It's not liberating
for my community.
1600
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,648
How we address birth control
should be a larger conversation
1601
01:20:27,779 --> 01:20:32,436
that's part of a larger
broad-based women's movement.
1602
01:20:32,566 --> 01:20:34,525
We should be looking at
the reproductive life
1603
01:20:34,655 --> 01:20:38,050
cycle of a woman, which
includes pregnancy, birth,
1604
01:20:38,181 --> 01:20:39,747
loss, breastfeeding.
1605
01:20:39,878 --> 01:20:42,968
And we don't really gather
women under the same umbrella
1606
01:20:43,099 --> 01:20:44,752
to have these conversations.
1607
01:20:44,883 --> 01:20:48,626
To me, reproductive
justice instead puts people
1608
01:20:48,756 --> 01:20:51,934
at the center, not a
product, not a procedure.
1609
01:20:52,064 --> 01:20:54,501
And it's really
about women's rights
1610
01:20:54,632 --> 01:20:57,548
not only to, quote unquote,
control their body,
1611
01:20:57,678 --> 01:21:03,380
but to have a healthy body, to
enjoy their body, to protect
1612
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:05,164
their body.
1613
01:21:05,295 --> 01:21:06,905
We've got all these women
who are in this sort of hyper
1614
01:21:07,036 --> 01:21:10,996
accommodating state when they're
taking antidepressants and oral
1615
01:21:11,127 --> 01:21:12,780
contraceptives.
1616
01:21:12,911 --> 01:21:14,478
And I would say to you that that
is a political issue, that this
1617
01:21:14,608 --> 01:21:17,263
is a social issue,
that right now, we
1618
01:21:17,394 --> 01:21:19,439
need to be less accommodating.
1619
01:21:19,570 --> 01:21:22,573
One of the more popular
methods of birth control is
1620
01:21:22,703 --> 01:21:24,531
the pill, according to the CDC.
1621
01:21:24,662 --> 01:21:28,187
But the number of women using
it appears to be going down.
1622
01:21:28,318 --> 01:21:30,581
There's a lot of concern
about putting anything
1623
01:21:30,711 --> 01:21:32,278
artificial in your body.
1624
01:21:32,409 --> 01:21:35,281
And I think that has leading
to some fear about hormones.
1625
01:21:35,412 --> 01:21:38,589
Endocrine-disrupting
chemicals, ECBs,
1626
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:42,506
have been linked to infertility,
adverse pregnancy outcomes,
1627
01:21:42,636 --> 01:21:45,901
obesity, diabetes, childhood
leukemia, and more.
1628
01:21:46,031 --> 01:21:48,904
We've seen a real shift in
the past decade to a much more
1629
01:21:49,034 --> 01:21:50,470
ecological awareness.
1630
01:21:50,601 --> 01:21:53,430
We're thinking about
pesticides, herbicides, organic,
1631
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,910
what we're putting
in our body, what
1632
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,650
we're putting in our planet.
1633
01:21:56,781 --> 01:22:00,350
If you destroy hormones that
are involved in reproductive
1634
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,092
functions, you don't allow
them and you replace them with
1635
01:22:03,222 --> 01:22:06,182
endocrine disruptors, which are
what are in these birth control
1636
01:22:06,312 --> 01:22:10,490
pills and similars, you are
destroying the foundation
1637
01:22:10,621 --> 01:22:14,233
of that woman's
body's functioning.
1638
01:22:14,364 --> 01:22:17,193
I think women are now making
the connection, like oh, OK,
1639
01:22:17,323 --> 01:22:19,499
so I'm avoiding all these
environmental endocrine
1640
01:22:19,630 --> 01:22:21,153
disruptors.
1641
01:22:21,284 --> 01:22:24,374
I'm detoxing the beauty
products that I use every day.
1642
01:22:24,504 --> 01:22:26,202
And they're realizing,
oh, the pill
1643
01:22:26,332 --> 01:22:28,247
is an endocrine
disruptor by design.
1644
01:22:28,378 --> 01:22:30,249
It is definitely
an experiment,
1645
01:22:30,380 --> 01:22:33,296
a human trial that we've
been doing on these women.
1646
01:22:33,426 --> 01:22:35,385
And because of the
age of social media,
1647
01:22:35,515 --> 01:22:37,126
we're finally hearing from them.
1648
01:22:37,256 --> 01:22:39,389
And they're saying, listen,
this is not working for me.
1649
01:22:39,519 --> 01:22:40,520
I'm having all these issues.
1650
01:22:40,651 --> 01:22:41,739
What do I do?
1651
01:22:41,869 --> 01:22:43,393
People want more information.
1652
01:22:43,523 --> 01:22:45,830
They want to be
treated as individuals
1653
01:22:45,961 --> 01:22:48,964
that are autonomous, that
can make sound decisions.
1654
01:22:49,094 --> 01:22:51,531
And that's why that
educational dynamic
1655
01:22:51,662 --> 01:22:54,665
and that one-on-one
coaching dynamic
1656
01:22:54,795 --> 01:22:56,884
is really starting to
blow up, because there's
1657
01:22:57,015 --> 01:22:58,495
this feeling of,
yeah, I could do this.
1658
01:22:58,625 --> 01:23:00,236
Can you just show me how?
1659
01:23:00,366 --> 01:23:04,414
So different types of
nonhormonal contraception,
1660
01:23:04,544 --> 01:23:06,242
we have fertility awareness.
1661
01:23:06,372 --> 01:23:08,896
We have the male condom,
the female condom.
1662
01:23:09,027 --> 01:23:15,381
Copper IUD, the diaphragm,
cervical cap, sponge.
1663
01:23:15,512 --> 01:23:18,428
The medical model has
created a vacuum, this huge,
1664
01:23:18,558 --> 01:23:20,996
gaping hole of women
needing to fill it.
1665
01:23:21,126 --> 01:23:23,041
So we are filling it by
talking to each other.
1666
01:23:27,132 --> 01:23:29,221
OK, so I love this slide.
1667
01:23:29,352 --> 01:23:30,527
It's my favorite slide.
1668
01:23:30,657 --> 01:23:33,704
I wish we could make
this a big poster.
1669
01:23:33,834 --> 01:23:36,620
Cycles and sex is a movement
to educate and celebrate
1670
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,536
the interconnectedness of
our menstrual, hormonal,
1671
01:23:39,666 --> 01:23:42,017
reproductive, and sexual health.
1672
01:23:42,147 --> 01:23:43,453
So we have the marketplace.
1673
01:23:43,583 --> 01:23:45,803
I think there's 29
brands signed on.
1674
01:23:45,933 --> 01:23:47,022
Great.
1675
01:23:47,152 --> 01:23:48,675
We'll have the
full day of panels.
1676
01:23:48,806 --> 01:23:52,984
And it'll be everything from
fertility, birth control,
1677
01:23:53,115 --> 01:23:54,116
politics, sex--
1678
01:23:54,246 --> 01:23:54,899
gender.
1679
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:55,769
gender.
1680
01:23:55,900 --> 01:23:57,467
Gender's nonbinary.
1681
01:23:57,597 --> 01:24:00,383
It'll be exciting
to see who comes.
1682
01:24:11,220 --> 01:24:13,309
It blocks the
entrance to the cervix.
1683
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:14,745
It's sealed off.
1684
01:24:14,875 --> 01:24:16,747
And you have the option
to put in spermicide.
1685
01:24:18,575 --> 01:24:20,490
We'll send you information
on what it means to have this.
1686
01:24:20,620 --> 01:24:23,536
You have instructions for
how did you want to do it,
1687
01:24:23,667 --> 01:24:24,624
boil water?
1688
01:24:29,542 --> 01:24:33,198
An event like this has
really culminated from a shift
1689
01:24:33,329 --> 01:24:35,374
in the cultural conversation.
1690
01:24:35,505 --> 01:24:38,682
All of this is something
that women are really ready,
1691
01:24:38,812 --> 01:24:42,512
I think, to take ownership of.
1692
01:24:42,642 --> 01:24:47,560
This is a huge moment of
awakening and awareness.
1693
01:24:47,691 --> 01:24:52,391
There is just a
reclamation happening.
1694
01:24:52,522 --> 01:24:55,699
When I've been talking to
my daughter, I say, honey,
1695
01:24:55,829 --> 01:24:57,788
I don't want you to get
on the birth control pill.
1696
01:24:57,918 --> 01:25:00,138
She goes, [gasps],,
but I'll get pregnant.
1697
01:25:00,269 --> 01:25:02,097
I'm like, no you won't.
1698
01:25:02,227 --> 01:25:03,533
It's all about education.
1699
01:25:03,663 --> 01:25:04,534
It's all about tracking.
1700
01:25:04,664 --> 01:25:05,796
It's all about empowerment.
1701
01:25:05,926 --> 01:25:07,276
It's all about knowing
where you're at.
1702
01:25:14,544 --> 01:25:16,154
One of the things--
1703
01:25:16,285 --> 01:25:18,330
There's a whole world of
people that want to participate
1704
01:25:18,461 --> 01:25:19,114
in this.
1705
01:25:19,244 --> 01:25:20,724
And you can, too.
1706
01:25:20,854 --> 01:25:23,248
It can be done in place of
love and community support
1707
01:25:23,379 --> 01:25:26,469
and not like, ooh, this dirty
thing that you talk about.
1708
01:25:26,599 --> 01:25:29,298
It's like, no, this is
our human experience.
1709
01:25:29,428 --> 01:25:30,995
These are our bodies.
1710
01:25:31,126 --> 01:25:33,911
I just want to acknowledge
and honor that although
1711
01:25:34,041 --> 01:25:35,913
we're talking about
lady part problems,
1712
01:25:36,043 --> 01:25:40,265
not everybody who identifies
as a woman or female has these
1713
01:25:40,396 --> 01:25:41,832
parts.
1714
01:25:41,962 --> 01:25:44,313
By expanding the
conversation of gender identity
1715
01:25:44,443 --> 01:25:47,968
to reproductive justice,
you save people's lives
1716
01:25:48,099 --> 01:25:50,710
because people don't want to
go to the doctor to talk about
1717
01:25:50,841 --> 01:25:52,843
their period if they're
going to be questioned about
1718
01:25:52,973 --> 01:25:56,194
their gender identity.
1719
01:25:56,325 --> 01:25:58,065
I'd say we're at the
beginning of the wave.
1720
01:25:58,196 --> 01:25:59,415
The culture has shifted.
1721
01:25:59,545 --> 01:26:01,982
And for the first
time, women or people
1722
01:26:02,113 --> 01:26:06,073
will have actual
uteruses are innovating.
1723
01:26:06,204 --> 01:26:09,686
People are fed up with
not having access,
1724
01:26:09,816 --> 01:26:12,341
with not having an
equitable experience,
1725
01:26:12,471 --> 01:26:15,779
and now taking matters
into their own hands.
1726
01:26:15,909 --> 01:26:16,606
The time is now.
1727
01:26:16,736 --> 01:26:17,650
It's changing.
1728
01:26:21,872 --> 01:26:26,137
You can, you
can do anything, anything.
1729
01:26:26,268 --> 01:26:31,098
You can do anything.
1730
01:26:31,229 --> 01:26:35,494
You can, you can
anything, anything.
1731
01:26:35,625 --> 01:26:40,369
You can do anything.
1732
01:26:40,499 --> 01:26:44,808
You can, you can do
anything, anything.
1733
01:26:44,938 --> 01:26:47,898
You can do anything.
1734
01:27:33,117 --> 01:27:36,860
One by one,
well, I left my homes
1735
01:27:36,990 --> 01:27:39,341
and I left my lovers.
1736
01:27:39,471 --> 01:27:44,302
Sticks and stones, tried to
wear me down to flesh and bones.
1737
01:27:44,433 --> 01:27:50,352
Oh, one by one by one by
one, one by one by one,
1738
01:27:50,482 --> 01:27:55,966
one by one by one by
one, one by one by one.
1739
01:27:56,096 --> 01:28:00,362
Let me down till I lost my head.
1740
01:28:00,492 --> 01:28:03,843
Couldn't take
another broken heart.
1741
01:28:03,974 --> 01:28:07,325
So I'm taking back each tear.
1742
01:28:07,456 --> 01:28:13,113
One by one by one by
one, one by one by one.
1743
01:28:13,244 --> 01:28:20,860
One by one by one by
one, one by one by one.
1744
01:28:20,991 --> 01:28:22,297
You blew a kiss.
1745
01:28:22,427 --> 01:28:23,776
And then you're gone.
1746
01:28:23,907 --> 01:28:26,475
The vicious circle
goes on and on.
1747
01:28:26,605 --> 01:28:29,434
You leave a kiss and fire a gun.
1748
01:28:29,565 --> 01:28:32,959
The vicious circle
goes on and on.
1749
01:28:33,090 --> 01:28:37,921
But just watch me walk away
'cause I'm learning every day.
1750
01:28:38,051 --> 01:28:41,446
I'll blow a kiss
and then I'm gone.
1751
01:28:48,453 --> 01:28:49,411
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
1752
01:28:53,415 --> 01:28:55,068
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
1753
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:59,159
I was lost till I
found my records that
1754
01:28:59,290 --> 01:29:00,552
sang how love hurt.
1755
01:29:00,683 --> 01:29:02,859
It hit that bone.
1756
01:29:02,989 --> 01:29:05,818
Now I'm taking back each tear.
1757
01:29:05,949 --> 01:29:11,824
One by one by one by
one, one by one by one.
1758
01:29:11,955 --> 01:29:18,788
One by one by one by
one, one by one by one.
1759
01:29:18,918 --> 01:29:21,268
Oh, you leave a kiss.
1760
01:29:21,399 --> 01:29:22,792
And then you're gone.
1761
01:29:22,922 --> 01:29:25,272
The vicious circle
goes on and on.
1762
01:29:25,403 --> 01:29:27,797
You leave a kiss and fire a gun.
1763
01:29:27,927 --> 01:29:30,887
The vicious circle
goes on and on.
1764
01:29:31,017 --> 01:29:36,283
But just watch me walk away
'cause I'm learning every day.
1765
01:29:36,414 --> 01:29:39,635
I'll blow a kiss
and then I'm gone.
1766
01:30:04,877 --> 01:30:07,184
You blow a kiss and
then you're gone.
1767
01:30:07,314 --> 01:30:10,448
The vicious circle
goes on and on.
1768
01:30:10,579 --> 01:30:13,190
You leave a kiss a fire a gun.
1769
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,498
The vicious circle
goes on and on.
1770
01:30:16,628 --> 01:30:21,546
But just watch me walk away
'cause I'm learning every day.
1771
01:30:21,677 --> 01:30:25,768
I'll blow a kiss
and then I'm gone.
1772
01:30:25,898 --> 01:30:27,073
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
1773
01:30:32,165 --> 01:30:33,384
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
1774
01:30:37,562 --> 01:30:38,737
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
1775
01:30:43,568 --> 01:30:44,743
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
1776
01:30:49,008 --> 01:30:51,402
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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