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- And how did it happen?
- Beat me up.
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They made me stand against the wall,
like this with me arms outstretched...
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...and my legs stretched out behind me.
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Kept me like this for ages,
for over 30 hours or somethin' like that.
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And if 1 tried to relax or lower me arms,
they hit me.
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And then they gave me the crab treatment.
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Were you arrested on Section 1 2?
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- Yeah.
- Okay. Good.
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Do you have any idea why?
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Sort of like most of me mates
were accused of belongin' to the 1RA.
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Which he wasn't.
That's why they let him go.
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Could you demonstrate
this crab treatment to us?
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Yeah.
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One of them grabbed me...
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...you know, with me arms back here...
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...while his mate punched me
in the stomach.
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He just punched me and punched me.
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And the other one
kept askin' me questions...
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...askin' more questions,
and they punched me again.
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Okay?
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- Are you all right?
- Yeah.
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Jim, why don't you tell them
what happened to you?
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1 was arrested the week before Michael
and taken to Castlereagh.
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And then they threw me
into a cell for about four hours.
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They took me out...
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...brought me up to what
they call an interview room.
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And two cops were sittin' there with me.
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One of the cops asked me my name.
1 never told him my name...
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...'cause if they didn't know my name,
they wouldn't have arrested me.
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At once, as soon as 1 told him,
all four cops came rushin' in the room...
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...took me off the chair,
lifted me by the arms and legs...
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...and held me over a table.
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And one of them put a towel
round my face.
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He was holding it
at the back of my neck here...
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...and another one poured water
over my nose and mouth.
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1t was goin' up my nose
and into my throat...
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...1 was gettin' the drowning feeling.
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Sullivan?
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Get the bastard!
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1 don't believe it.
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- Tribal rites.
- 1t's frightening.
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Can 1 take you onto the question
of the treatment of prisoners...
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...the question of interrogation techniques
referred to in the press release.
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1t suggests that these allegations
of ill-treatment have reduced since 1 978.
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Can 1 ask you to comment?
Do you have a view...
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...as to whether these forms of
ill-treatment that you found are fair?
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What evidence do you have for them?
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Not to be too dramatic, but these are all...
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...statements of alleged maltreatment that
we have collected over our time here.
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And that one?
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"Punching, slapping, kicking the plaintiff.
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"Causing, requiring,
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permitting the plaintiff to lie
on the floor of an interview room.
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"Causing, requiring,
permitting the plaintiff...
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"...to remove his coat and shoes
in the interview room.
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"Punching the plaintiff
in the abdominal area.
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"Banging the plaintiff's head off the wall
of the interview room.
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"Standing on the plaintiff's
shoulders, stomach, ankles and chest.
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"Squeezing the plaintiff's neck.
Squeezing the plaintiff's testicles.
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"Causing, requiring,
permitting the plaintiff...
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- "...to be spreadled..."
- Spread-eagled.
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"Between three members
of the Royal Ulster Constabulary...
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"...while one kicked him with his heel
in the area of the abdomen and raped..."
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Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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These are unconfirmed allegations, right?
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Allegations for which
there is no outside evidence.
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These are allegations
from a group of people.
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A great deal of this evidence
is corroborated.
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1s it a war situation or not?
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1f it's a war situation,
to solve that war situation...
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...you have to negotiate,
and so to accept that there are two sides...
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...putting around a table to negotiate...
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...and that, the British
government doesn't accept.
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Does your report deal with
the shoot-to-kill policy...
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...operatin' here in the six counties?
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Allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy
carried out by the RUC...
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...the UDR, and the British Army
does form part of our report, yes.
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- Do you have any figures?
- Yes, in...
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...the period of 1 969 to 1 980...
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...the evidence shows
that at least 1 30 people...
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...were killed by the security forces,
and half of those deaths...
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...were of civilians
that had no connection...
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...with paramilitary activities at all.
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Given the fact that there is a state of
armed insurrection in Northern 1reland...
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...do you not concede
the government has every right...
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...to take whatever measures
it deems necessary to...
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...stem this insurrection?
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Britain is recognised the world over
as a democratic state.
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We will present our report
based on the documented evidence.
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And hopefully,
the British government will respond.
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1'm sure they will.
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Thank you. That's all we have time for.
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We're flying out tomorrow. Thank you.
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Hi.
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- I'm Teresa Doyle. Republican NeWs.
- Excuse me?
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Republican News.
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You know the shoot-to-kill?
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1t happens all the time.
1 could show you a photograph.
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- Of what?
- Of an execution.
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You have that with you?
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1t's not the sort of thing you carry around
the streets of Belfast in your handbag.
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But 1 could get it to you.
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1'm sorry. Our investigation's concluded.
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- So you're not interested?
- No, we're not here to be used.
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Maybe that's all you're here for.
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Paul?
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- 1s that the tape from yesterday?
- Yeah.
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1'm glad we're leaving tomorrow.
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Belfast reminds me of Chile.
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There's no comparison.
How can you say that?
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That's the way it feels:
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Killings, torture, intrigue.
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A reality check:
What happened in Chile can't happen here.
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- Let's eat.
- Yeah.
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- You got any money?
- Yes, 1 do.
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Good.
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So good night. See you tomorrow.
Tough day.
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Good night.
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Can you believe
he turned around and waved?
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- Do you know him?
- 1 don't know. 1 thought 1 did.
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- No messages.
- Okay, thanks.
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Yes.
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Harris?
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- 1 listened to your tape.
- Have you come to a decision?
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1 don't know.
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We must talk.
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They saw us together.
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- How do you know?
- After 1 left you, 1 was followed.
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That means you're under surveillance.
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1 really don't think that this is something
that 1 should get involved in...
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...but 1'll tell you what 1 can do.
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I can turn the tape over
to whatever authorities you deem...
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No! That would be crazy.
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We must meet.
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- Where?
- Near Dungannon. Now.
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It's less than an hour's drive away.
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Look, I've got a plane to catch.
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This won't take long.
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Mr. Sullivan?
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- Where's Harris?
- He's down the road, waiting on you.
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I am here to take you to him.
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You can leave your car here.
We'll go in mine.
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- My car's okay here?
- It's quite safe there.
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By the way, my name's Frank Molloy.
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- Did you bring the tape?
- Yeah.
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1 1 69.
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Sorry?
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800 years: That's how long
we've been fightin' for independence.
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Sword...
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...famine, burnin'...
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...hangin', shootin', transportation:
We've had it all.
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Who's Harris?
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It's better he tells you himself.
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There's a car behind us.
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Is it following us?
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We'll soon find out.
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There's something wrong here.
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Get down! Get down!
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- Ms. Ingrid Jessner?
- Yes.
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I'm afraid we've got some
rather serious news for you.
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- May we come in?
- What is it?
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It's about Mr. Sullivan.
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He's been involved in a
rather serious incident.
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They were killed
in a car crash early this morning...
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... which involved a police
checkpoint outside Dungannon.
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The men,
who were driving a yellow Ford Cortina...
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... were signaled by police to stop.
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Ignoring the warning, the car accelerated
and drove directly at the officers.
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Police opened fire on the vehicle
as it attempted to escape.
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The car then went out of control
and careered off the road.
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Upon arrival at the crash scene,
police found the occupants were dead.
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Names of the two men
have not yet been released.
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Can you identify the body
as that of Paul Sullivan?
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Yes.
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Ingrid.
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Come on. Let's go.
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Ms. Jessner,
where have you just come from?
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Can you move away?
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It's said the man in the car
with Mr. Sullivan was a terrorist suspect.
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Is that true?
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- What are you suggesting?
- Who was with Mr. Sullivan?
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- I have no idea.
- Police say he was a terrorist suspect.
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Did the car go through a police roadcheck?
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They say they opened fire
after the car went through a checkpoint?
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Where were they going this morning?
Did you know?
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As journalists, you must appreciate
that I can't talk about this right now.
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The driver of the car
in which the shooting occurred...
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... has been named as Frank Molloy.
Police said the car failed to stop...
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... at a roadblock outside Dungannon
around 6:1 5 this morning.
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An RUC statement said
the driver accelerated...
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... toward their officers,
who opened fire on the fleeing car...
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... causing it to swerve off the road.
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Also in the car was Paul Sullivan,
an American lawyer and a leading figure...
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... in the International League
for Civil Liberties.
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What's puxxling observers...
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... is why Mr. Sullivan should have
driven out of Belfast...
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... in the early hours of the morning
to meet a man...
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... who the police say is a terrorist suspect.
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This is Ivan Little,
Ulster Television, Dungannon.
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With me in the studio to discuss...
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... the political implications
of today's shooting...
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... is Mr. Alec Nevin...
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... who is a Conservative Party spokesman
on Northern Ireland.
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Mr. Nevin,
earlier, we saw pictures of Americans...
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... demonstrating outside
the British embassy in Washington.
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Let's make a distinction.
What we saw was a demonstration...
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... by supporters of the IRA...
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Could I finish my question?
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The people who give comfort
and weapons...
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... to the men of violence.
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John Ware, Labour MP.
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A particularly embarrassing thing,
I would think...
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... was, of course, the death of
this civil-liberties spokesman...
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It's quite clear that people
will be asking the question:
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Does this mean the investigation
has hit on a raw nerve...
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... has revealed some of the things
that have been perpetrated...
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... by security forces due to
their presence in Northern Ireland?
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Is Ms. Jessner coming
down to talk to us today?
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- No. She's resting.
- How is she?
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All right.
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Have you been told any more
about what happened...
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...on the morning of the shooting?
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The only thing that we know is that
Mr. Sullivan has been murdered...
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...by a member of the security forces...
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...near Dungannon in a car, a rented car...
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...with a man called Mr. Molloy.
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Did Mr. Sullivan have
Republican sympathies?
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- No.
- Was he a member of Noraid?
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- Not at all.
- What kind of a man was he, Mr. Sullivan?
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The only thing I can say is he was
a very good lawyer and a great fighter...
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...for the civil rights all over the world
and a marvelous friend.
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The British government have
just appointed...
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...Deputy Chief Constable Kerrigan...
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...to head up the investigation
on the shooting.
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What's your reaction to that?
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I've heard that Kerrigan is
a fine investigator of the CID...
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...but we would have preferred that...
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...it would have been
an independent, international inquiry.
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So you don't have
any confidence in the inquiry?
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I've got a certain amount
of skepticism about that.
241
00:25:17,129 --> 00:25:19,214
You said that you were skeptical. Why?
242
00:25:19,298 --> 00:25:21,841
Why will the Kerrigan inquiry
not discover the truth?
243
00:25:21,926 --> 00:25:26,721
Because you had a lot of inquiries
in the 1 3 past years...
244
00:25:26,806 --> 00:25:30,058
... and it didn't change anything.
245
00:25:47,785 --> 00:25:50,912
Excuse me, sir.
I'm Sgt. Hughes, your liaison for your stay.
246
00:25:50,997 --> 00:25:53,415
Hello.
This is Chief Superintendent Maxwell.
247
00:25:53,499 --> 00:25:55,750
How do you do?
The car's just outside the front.
248
00:25:55,835 --> 00:25:58,169
- Can I take your bag?
- Thank you.
249
00:26:03,592 --> 00:26:06,052
- This Jessner woman...
- Sullivan's girlfriend.
250
00:26:06,137 --> 00:26:10,473
What time is it now?
4:00. Late in the day.
251
00:26:11,309 --> 00:26:13,476
What about this Mrs. Molloy?
252
00:26:14,186 --> 00:26:17,230
She lives in Fort William.
253
00:26:18,274 --> 00:26:20,525
How far is it to Fort William, Sergeant?
254
00:26:20,609 --> 00:26:24,279
Fort William's just over here
on the right, sir, about a mile away.
255
00:26:26,198 --> 00:26:28,950
It might be a good idea
if you spoke to them both together.
256
00:26:29,035 --> 00:26:30,618
Let them feed off each other.
257
00:26:55,603 --> 00:26:57,103
Your ID, Sarge?
258
00:27:13,954 --> 00:27:15,789
Might as well leave the cases in the car.
259
00:27:15,873 --> 00:27:19,167
- We'll be going to the hotel after.
- Sure they'll be safe here?
260
00:27:19,251 --> 00:27:20,752
I hope so, sir.
261
00:27:32,973 --> 00:27:34,516
Just in here, sir.
262
00:27:41,399 --> 00:27:44,442
- We're a bit pushed for space, sir.
- Not bad.
263
00:27:45,152 --> 00:27:48,738
I want a large wall map of Northern Ireland
and a blackboard.
264
00:27:48,823 --> 00:27:51,699
- Blackboard?
- Those big black things you write on.
265
00:27:52,118 --> 00:27:53,535
Yes, sir.
266
00:27:53,744 --> 00:27:58,790
- I'll tell Mr. Brodie you're here, sir.
- Thank you, Sergeant. That's kind of you.
267
00:28:05,464 --> 00:28:08,425
Hello.
268
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,972
- I've seen Jack Cunningham lately.
- What's he doing nowadays?
269
00:28:14,056 --> 00:28:17,434
- He runs his own security business.
- He must be rolling in it.
270
00:28:17,518 --> 00:28:19,185
He's earned it.
271
00:28:20,146 --> 00:28:22,439
Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Kerrigan.
272
00:28:22,523 --> 00:28:24,190
Chief Superintendent Maxwell.
273
00:28:24,275 --> 00:28:25,400
Sir.
274
00:28:25,484 --> 00:28:27,444
- Good flight?
- Bit cramped.
275
00:28:27,528 --> 00:28:29,279
Yeah, always is.
276
00:28:29,780 --> 00:28:31,781
This is not what you're used to, I suppose.
277
00:28:31,866 --> 00:28:34,742
It's the best we can do
for one of Britain's top policemen.
278
00:28:34,827 --> 00:28:36,202
It's perfectly adequate.
279
00:28:37,538 --> 00:28:40,165
- Anything else you need?
- Thank you. I'll ask.
280
00:28:40,249 --> 00:28:42,750
Detective Sgt. Hughes
will be your liaison officer.
281
00:28:42,835 --> 00:28:45,420
He will organise
all your internal appointments.
282
00:28:45,504 --> 00:28:49,716
- Yes, secretarial staff...
- She'll be arriving tomorrow.
283
00:28:49,884 --> 00:28:51,384
Excuse me.
284
00:28:53,596 --> 00:28:56,806
- Have you read the CID interim report?
- Yes.
285
00:28:58,017 --> 00:29:00,101
Now, as I understand it...
286
00:29:00,186 --> 00:29:04,814
...your terms of reference in the inquiry
are to reexamine the evidence and...
287
00:29:04,899 --> 00:29:07,400
Or if necessary,
reinvestigate the circumstances...
288
00:29:07,485 --> 00:29:10,487
...which led to the shooting
of Paul Sullivan and Frank Molloy.
289
00:29:10,988 --> 00:29:14,157
I'm sure that your expertise
will be appreciated.
290
00:29:14,867 --> 00:29:18,119
However, I should warn you
that you may encounter some prejudice.
291
00:29:18,704 --> 00:29:22,207
- From members of your force?
- Possibly. But don't let that deter you.
292
00:29:22,291 --> 00:29:23,750
It won't.
293
00:29:24,668 --> 00:29:28,630
See, you have to bear in mind
the situation here in Northern Ireland.
294
00:29:28,714 --> 00:29:31,341
We operate under enormous pressure.
295
00:29:31,967 --> 00:29:34,802
For the last 1 2 years,
the Royal Ulster Constabulary...
296
00:29:34,887 --> 00:29:38,723
...have fought to maintain the peace
against the terrorists.
297
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:41,893
140 people have given their lives.
298
00:29:42,311 --> 00:29:43,811
3,500 have been injured.
299
00:29:44,271 --> 00:29:47,565
And 1 55 medals for outstanding
feats of gallantry.
300
00:29:48,067 --> 00:29:50,318
Naturally, when outsiders
from the mainland...
301
00:29:50,402 --> 00:29:54,030
...come here to the province to tell us...
- I do understand.
302
00:29:55,991 --> 00:29:59,619
But rest assured,
no obstacle will be placed in your path.
303
00:29:59,703 --> 00:30:03,039
- You'll receive my full cooperation.
- Thank you.
304
00:30:03,332 --> 00:30:06,876
About accommodation, we have a couple
of safe houses where RUC personnel...
305
00:30:06,961 --> 00:30:11,798
I think it would be better if we
were to stay in a small hotel somewhere.
306
00:30:12,299 --> 00:30:13,341
Can I ask why?
307
00:30:13,425 --> 00:30:16,511
I don't want to socialise with officers
I might have to question.
308
00:30:16,595 --> 00:30:19,138
Best keep it on a strictly
professional basis.
309
00:30:19,598 --> 00:30:22,725
- Could I just say one thing, so...
- Also, I'll need a car...
310
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:25,270
...without a driver.
311
00:30:26,021 --> 00:30:28,356
You realise that I can't
guarantee your safety?
312
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,440
Absolutely.
313
00:30:29,525 --> 00:30:32,527
Just let me say one thing,
so there can be no misunderstanding.
314
00:30:32,695 --> 00:30:37,657
When you have completed your inquiry,
you will deliver your report to me first.
315
00:30:39,034 --> 00:30:42,370
I understood it was to go to the
DPP first. -No, it comes to me first.
316
00:30:42,454 --> 00:30:44,956
I will forward it
to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
317
00:30:45,082 --> 00:30:47,834
That is the constitutional position.
318
00:30:48,127 --> 00:30:51,754
We might as well keep that
on a professional basis, too.
319
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:54,257
- Okay.
- Thank you.
320
00:31:04,810 --> 00:31:06,311
Ingrid...
321
00:31:06,937 --> 00:31:10,898
Henri and I will stay with you
for as long as you need us.
322
00:31:11,317 --> 00:31:13,192
- I'm okay.
- You sure?
323
00:31:14,153 --> 00:31:17,780
I think you can do more
back home than you can do here.
324
00:31:25,998 --> 00:31:27,290
Hello?
325
00:31:28,334 --> 00:31:31,377
No, it isn't Ingrid. Who is calling?
326
00:31:33,964 --> 00:31:35,923
Can you wait a second?
327
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:38,635
It's Paul's mother.
328
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:45,099
All right?
329
00:31:48,854 --> 00:31:50,104
Rose?
330
00:31:57,321 --> 00:31:59,155
How are you? Are you all right?
331
00:31:59,239 --> 00:32:01,616
Is there somebody there?
Is somebody with you?
332
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:03,660
That's good.
333
00:32:04,787 --> 00:32:08,831
I'm all right.
I have some friends here, and it's...
334
00:32:48,539 --> 00:32:51,916
What's the crack on this
Insp. Stephens of CID?
335
00:32:52,167 --> 00:32:55,378
Stephens? Decent enough man.
336
00:32:56,171 --> 00:32:57,964
Is he handling the shooting?
337
00:32:58,048 --> 00:33:01,509
Yes. If he was one of my detectives,
he'd be back in uniform.
338
00:33:01,593 --> 00:33:02,593
Why?
339
00:33:02,678 --> 00:33:06,180
Three hours after the shooting,
the RUC issued a statement.
340
00:33:06,432 --> 00:33:08,015
It was fabricated.
341
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,394
- Maybe they had a reason?
- No resistance was offered.
342
00:33:11,478 --> 00:33:14,939
The weapon found in the car
clearly didn't belong there.
343
00:33:15,107 --> 00:33:17,692
Forensic showed that
the shot that killed the Yank...
344
00:33:17,776 --> 00:33:21,904
...was fired at two meters.
The trajectory was wrong.
345
00:33:22,948 --> 00:33:26,743
The officer that did the shooting
claims he shot at 25 feet.
346
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:29,912
None of this was in the interim report.
347
00:33:30,456 --> 00:33:34,542
What if there were witnesses,
and it comes out at the inquest?
348
00:33:34,626 --> 00:33:37,044
You know as well as I
how long these things take.
349
00:33:37,129 --> 00:33:39,964
I know of two cases:
One seven years ago, the other was five.
350
00:33:40,048 --> 00:33:43,259
- There's still no inquest in either of them.
- This one's different.
351
00:33:43,343 --> 00:33:46,429
There's a lot of dead bodies
in Northern Ireland, Peter.
352
00:33:46,805 --> 00:33:51,184
Jack, you haven't been followin' the news.
Why the hell do you think I'm here?
353
00:33:51,393 --> 00:33:55,313
- A prominent American was involved.
- Brodie was hoping you'd do a snow job.
354
00:33:55,397 --> 00:33:56,898
Not a chance.
355
00:33:56,982 --> 00:33:58,941
Next to the Pope,
you're about to become...
356
00:33:59,026 --> 00:34:01,861
...the most unpopular man
in Northern Ireland.
357
00:34:01,945 --> 00:34:05,406
What you have to understand is
Special Branch control the whole thing.
358
00:34:06,074 --> 00:34:07,575
Why do you think I got out?
359
00:34:08,202 --> 00:34:12,038
As soon as my time was up,
I just grabbed my pension and ran.
360
00:34:13,749 --> 00:34:16,334
These three policemen involved
in the shooting...
361
00:34:16,752 --> 00:34:19,754
- Cowboys, not policemen.
- Tell me about them.
362
00:34:20,506 --> 00:34:24,133
Members of an antiterrorist squad,
operating undercover.
363
00:34:24,218 --> 00:34:26,427
SSU, Special Support Unit...
364
00:34:26,887 --> 00:34:28,805
...code-named Echo 4 Alpha.
365
00:34:28,889 --> 00:34:31,349
- Answerable to whom?
- Don't ask.
366
00:34:31,767 --> 00:34:33,267
I have to know.
367
00:34:33,685 --> 00:34:36,229
I'm not saying
we shouldn't use them against the IRA...
368
00:34:36,313 --> 00:34:41,150
...but the fact is, they're out of control.
They're off the wire, trigger-happy.
369
00:34:42,361 --> 00:34:44,195
They go where they want,
do what they want.
370
00:34:44,279 --> 00:34:46,989
They shoot first, no questions asked.
371
00:34:47,866 --> 00:34:51,077
The other side don't play
by the rules either.
372
00:34:51,203 --> 00:34:52,662
We're not the IRA.
373
00:34:53,539 --> 00:34:55,998
Goin' back to these three policemen...
374
00:34:56,083 --> 00:34:58,543
If they were involved,
then it's a covert operation.
375
00:34:58,627 --> 00:35:01,379
- What about Special Branch?
- They are Special Branch.
376
00:35:01,463 --> 00:35:05,049
- Sanctioned by them?
- Or MI5 or Ml6.
377
00:35:05,843 --> 00:35:08,094
Take your pick.
We all piss in the same pot.
378
00:35:11,890 --> 00:35:14,350
If the British public knew
half of what goes on...
379
00:35:14,434 --> 00:35:17,520
...in Northern Ireland,
they wouldn't sleep in their beds.
380
00:35:17,604 --> 00:35:22,066
- I don't know what the answer is.
- Good night, Jack. Thanks.
381
00:35:22,317 --> 00:35:23,943
Do yourself a favour, Peter.
382
00:35:24,027 --> 00:35:26,487
I know it goes against the grain,
but toe the line.
383
00:35:26,572 --> 00:35:28,948
Give them what they want,
and get back to England.
384
00:35:29,032 --> 00:35:31,701
- We'll see.
- You're a pillock!
385
00:35:31,785 --> 00:35:33,035
Mind how you go.
386
00:35:33,161 --> 00:35:36,706
Nobody gives a shit
what happens in Northern Ireland.
387
00:36:48,111 --> 00:36:51,530
- What's wrong?
- I found this on the seat of my car.
388
00:36:52,491 --> 00:36:55,409
"The next bullet is for you
if you don't get out of Ireland.
389
00:36:55,494 --> 00:36:57,244
"Our day will come".
390
00:36:58,246 --> 00:36:59,580
IRA?
391
00:37:03,627 --> 00:37:05,586
It's a 9-millimeter.
392
00:37:05,671 --> 00:37:07,505
Walther PPK pistol.
393
00:37:09,341 --> 00:37:12,760
That's a weapon favoured by the cowboys
we talked about earlier.
394
00:37:13,887 --> 00:37:15,930
- Echo 4 Alpha?
- Yeah.
395
00:37:18,016 --> 00:37:19,433
So where are you taking me?
396
00:37:20,978 --> 00:37:22,812
It's one of ours, Peter.
397
00:37:24,147 --> 00:37:25,815
Excuse me. Hi.
398
00:37:27,526 --> 00:37:29,276
Good afternoon, Ms. Jessner.
399
00:37:29,695 --> 00:37:31,362
- Any further news yet?
- No, none.
400
00:37:31,446 --> 00:37:33,489
- What are your plans now?
- I have none...
401
00:37:33,573 --> 00:37:36,659
...and I don't want to say anything.
Please, now, thank you.
402
00:37:36,952 --> 00:37:38,160
- Ms. Jessner.
- Mr. Kerrigan.
403
00:37:38,245 --> 00:37:39,912
- Thank you for seeing me.
- Of course.
404
00:37:39,997 --> 00:37:41,998
Did you get in touch with Mrs. Molloy?
405
00:37:42,082 --> 00:37:44,542
Yes. She's expecting us.
406
00:37:45,335 --> 00:37:47,628
How are your skills as a navigator?
407
00:38:07,399 --> 00:38:09,025
This is Paradox.
408
00:38:10,068 --> 00:38:12,028
Subjects leaving location.
409
00:38:12,654 --> 00:38:14,405
Tabs on now, please.
410
00:38:21,830 --> 00:38:24,331
Paul was murdered, Mr. Kerrigan.
411
00:38:24,916 --> 00:38:28,586
- Why would the police want to kill him?
- I don't know, but they did.
412
00:38:29,254 --> 00:38:31,797
- What proof do you have?
- None.
413
00:38:33,425 --> 00:38:35,926
But I do know what goes on here.
414
00:38:36,303 --> 00:38:40,306
Torture, paid informants,
roadside executions, death squads.
415
00:38:47,022 --> 00:38:50,691
Mr. Kerrigan,
when I was going through Paul's things...
416
00:38:50,776 --> 00:38:53,694
...I found something
I think might be important.
417
00:38:54,279 --> 00:38:55,988
It's an empty cassette box.
418
00:38:56,740 --> 00:38:59,950
Paul was meticulous,
and I can't find that tape.
419
00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:02,870
- Did you ask about it?
- I told the police.
420
00:39:02,954 --> 00:39:07,041
- And what did they say?
- They would look into it and call me back.
421
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:09,210
- And did they?
- No.
422
00:39:10,462 --> 00:39:12,296
What was on the tape?
423
00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:16,050
I don't know,
but he was listening to it the night before.
424
00:39:22,557 --> 00:39:24,058
This is it.
425
00:39:28,355 --> 00:39:32,525
I also found this list of names.
426
00:39:32,609 --> 00:39:34,777
- Is this his writing?
- Yes.
427
00:39:41,618 --> 00:39:44,161
This is a pretty formidable group.
428
00:39:45,163 --> 00:39:48,249
Lord Randall, Alec Nevin,
Sir Gerald Binning...
429
00:39:50,919 --> 00:39:52,378
Why did he write these six names?
430
00:39:52,462 --> 00:39:54,713
- I don't know.
- Had he met them?
431
00:39:54,798 --> 00:39:56,799
No, not that I know of.
432
00:39:58,593 --> 00:40:00,511
Have you shown this to anyone else?
433
00:40:00,595 --> 00:40:03,722
No. Why, what do you think it is?
434
00:40:04,015 --> 00:40:05,933
What do you think?
435
00:40:07,018 --> 00:40:09,645
Could be people targeted, hit list.
436
00:40:11,898 --> 00:40:16,026
- I'm not saying it is, but...
- Paul was not involved with terrorists.
437
00:40:16,111 --> 00:40:17,987
Perhaps innocently.
438
00:40:18,196 --> 00:40:21,532
- Maybe he was being used.
- He was too smart to be manipulated.
439
00:40:21,616 --> 00:40:23,617
He was a good lawyer.
He thought like one.
440
00:40:23,702 --> 00:40:25,661
Then why did he write down
these six names?
441
00:40:25,745 --> 00:40:29,331
And why did he leave the hotel
at 5:00 in the morning, leaving you?
442
00:40:29,958 --> 00:40:32,168
What was he doing
driving around Dungannon...
443
00:40:32,252 --> 00:40:34,670
...with a fringe member of the IRA?
444
00:40:35,964 --> 00:40:38,340
He must have been mixed up in something.
445
00:40:39,134 --> 00:40:41,760
Mrs. Molloy, is this Frank's father?
446
00:40:41,845 --> 00:40:44,388
- That's his father.
- Who's that?
447
00:40:44,472 --> 00:40:49,393
Them's his friends, lifelong friends.
Theyjust can't believe it either.
448
00:40:50,979 --> 00:40:55,858
Those were taken on holiday.
It was the last holiday we had.
449
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,863
Have you a religion, Mr. Kerrigan?
450
00:41:01,948 --> 00:41:03,365
Catholic.
451
00:41:03,450 --> 00:41:07,119
In the heel of the hunt,
we'll all be answerable to God.
452
00:41:07,412 --> 00:41:10,289
I curse the bloody day
we ever came back here.
453
00:41:10,373 --> 00:41:11,874
Why did you?
454
00:41:12,209 --> 00:41:16,337
No choice. He was workin'
for the Ministry of Defense in London.
455
00:41:16,671 --> 00:41:19,215
Some bright spark
sent him on this course.
456
00:41:19,299 --> 00:41:21,508
Then he was transferred over here.
457
00:41:21,593 --> 00:41:23,844
What kind of work did he do?
458
00:41:24,262 --> 00:41:26,096
It came under the army...
459
00:41:26,348 --> 00:41:29,433
...to do with education
and publishing things.
460
00:41:30,435 --> 00:41:34,063
To tell you the truth,
he never talked much about it...
461
00:41:34,231 --> 00:41:36,106
...but he wasn't happy.
462
00:41:36,191 --> 00:41:38,067
That's why he left?
463
00:41:38,777 --> 00:41:42,404
Under a cloud.
Said he couldn't stomach it anymore.
464
00:41:43,365 --> 00:41:45,574
Can I take a look at these?
465
00:41:47,786 --> 00:41:50,788
- Who's that?
- That's Grace's weddin'.
466
00:41:51,581 --> 00:41:54,708
- It's your daughter?
- That was a beautiful day.
467
00:41:54,793 --> 00:41:56,710
She looks wonderful.
468
00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:58,712
Mrs. Molloy...
469
00:42:00,966 --> 00:42:03,425
Did your husband ever mention
Paul to you?
470
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:04,718
No.
471
00:42:05,887 --> 00:42:08,681
They must have known each other, though,
don't you think?
472
00:42:08,765 --> 00:42:11,850
They must've.
But I never heard Frank mention him.
473
00:42:12,185 --> 00:42:14,561
You were telling us earlier...
474
00:42:14,854 --> 00:42:17,273
...that the house was searched.
475
00:42:17,565 --> 00:42:19,483
Yes. Two days after.
476
00:42:20,819 --> 00:42:23,195
Do you know who authorised it?
Was it the police?
477
00:42:23,446 --> 00:42:25,698
The big knock authorised it.
478
00:42:26,032 --> 00:42:30,244
1 :00 in the mornin',
you either open up, or your door goes in.
479
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:32,871
Did they question you?
480
00:42:33,081 --> 00:42:35,541
Asked me if I knew Capt. Harris.
481
00:42:36,209 --> 00:42:37,167
Capt. Harris?
482
00:42:37,627 --> 00:42:41,297
Frank's old boss.
Worked in a unit at Lisburn.
483
00:42:41,673 --> 00:42:44,758
- And what did you tell them?
- Told them the truth.
484
00:42:44,843 --> 00:42:47,469
The last time I saw Capt. Harris...
485
00:42:47,971 --> 00:42:49,096
...was at the weddin'.
486
00:42:49,514 --> 00:42:52,016
Did they find anything?
487
00:42:52,642 --> 00:42:55,978
They took away some papers
and all his cassette tapes.
488
00:42:56,062 --> 00:42:58,063
- Tapes?
- The lot.
489
00:42:58,815 --> 00:43:01,775
Capt. Harris, if he was at the wedding...
490
00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:04,445
...he might be in one of these photographs.
491
00:43:04,529 --> 00:43:06,488
You've just been looking at it.
492
00:43:06,573 --> 00:43:10,576
- This one?
- That's him, next to the groom.
493
00:43:13,038 --> 00:43:14,413
I know him.
494
00:43:14,622 --> 00:43:17,458
- You met him?
- No, I know his face.
495
00:43:19,002 --> 00:43:21,712
He was talking to Paul
at the Orange Parade.
496
00:43:22,756 --> 00:43:26,675
Here are the documents you
asked for, sir. -Thank you, Chief.
497
00:43:39,022 --> 00:43:41,732
Could you initial there, Mr. Maxwell?
498
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:53,786
And you'll have to sign
the secured-documents book as well.
499
00:43:59,417 --> 00:44:02,669
And how did you get involved
in civil liberties?
500
00:44:03,797 --> 00:44:05,339
I was in Chile.
501
00:44:05,632 --> 00:44:07,674
I was doing some research...
502
00:44:07,759 --> 00:44:10,427
...for a TV documentary
called The Disappeared.
503
00:44:10,970 --> 00:44:14,264
It was about the victims of Pinochet
after the coup.
504
00:44:14,349 --> 00:44:18,519
- Paul was there working for the League.
- When was that?
505
00:44:19,104 --> 00:44:20,562
1 975.
506
00:44:21,439 --> 00:44:24,566
There was a technical adviser
working with us...
507
00:44:25,110 --> 00:44:27,569
...a young Chilean journalist.
508
00:44:28,071 --> 00:44:31,532
He disappeared one day
and I went to the League and Paul...
509
00:44:31,616 --> 00:44:34,910
...to see if they could find out
what happened to him.
510
00:44:37,288 --> 00:44:39,581
- And did they?
- No.
511
00:44:42,127 --> 00:44:44,962
It was a year before we found out
he'd been executed.
512
00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:47,589
What happened to the film?
513
00:44:47,799 --> 00:44:50,926
- Never got made.
- Too controversial?
514
00:44:51,010 --> 00:44:52,302
Too honest, I think.
515
00:44:53,138 --> 00:44:56,181
It was about how Mr. Kissinger,
the CIA, and the Pentagon...
516
00:44:56,266 --> 00:44:58,976
...had made Chile safe for democracy.
517
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:04,648
So I quit TV and joined the League.
518
00:45:05,275 --> 00:45:07,359
Got to know Paul better.
519
00:45:10,071 --> 00:45:12,448
How about you? You have a wife?
520
00:45:12,532 --> 00:45:13,740
Yes.
521
00:45:14,242 --> 00:45:15,826
- Kids?
- Three.
522
00:45:16,578 --> 00:45:19,371
Two at university, one away at school.
523
00:45:19,539 --> 00:45:22,082
- See them much?
- Not as often as I'd like.
524
00:45:22,167 --> 00:45:25,502
May I have your attention, please?
Telephone call for Mr. Kerrigan.
525
00:45:25,587 --> 00:45:28,755
- Would a Mr. Kerrigan please...
- Excuse me.
526
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,340
Thank you.
527
00:45:37,682 --> 00:45:38,849
Yes?
528
00:45:39,058 --> 00:45:42,352
It's Tom. I got that stuff on Harris,
what there is of it.
529
00:45:42,437 --> 00:45:43,604
Go ahead.
530
00:45:43,688 --> 00:45:48,066
The first name's James John.
Born Gateshead, 1 942.
531
00:45:48,359 --> 00:45:52,654
Religion, Protestant. Joined the
army, 1 960, as a private soldier.
532
00:45:52,864 --> 00:45:55,407
Promoted to the rank of lieutenant in '64.
533
00:45:56,075 --> 00:45:58,827
Doesn't say which mob. 1 971 ...
534
00:45:59,162 --> 00:46:00,329
...he attended a course...
535
00:46:00,413 --> 00:46:04,917
...at the United States Army
Special Warfare School at Fort Bragg.
536
00:46:05,168 --> 00:46:07,336
A year later, 1 972...
537
00:46:07,712 --> 00:46:12,341
...he was seconded to the
Psychological Warfare Unit...
538
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:13,592
...known as PSYOPS.
539
00:46:13,718 --> 00:46:16,094
- The same place Molloy went to.
- Right.
540
00:46:16,179 --> 00:46:20,140
In 1 973, he was sent to Northern Ireland
as a senior captain.
541
00:46:20,808 --> 00:46:25,729
That's it, apart from a list of postings
at various regiments.
542
00:46:25,855 --> 00:46:27,898
- Nothing else?
- Dead end.
543
00:46:28,066 --> 00:46:29,399
And since '73?
544
00:46:30,068 --> 00:46:32,402
- Classified.
- They told you that?
545
00:46:32,487 --> 00:46:34,655
With great emphasis.
The shutters came down.
546
00:46:41,913 --> 00:46:44,915
If there is a connection
between Paul's death and Harris...
547
00:46:44,999 --> 00:46:46,708
There has to be.
548
00:46:47,001 --> 00:46:49,378
Then I need to know more
about the background.
549
00:46:49,462 --> 00:46:51,713
Why not start with where he is?
550
00:46:51,798 --> 00:46:54,341
According to the colonel
I spoke to in Lisburn...
551
00:46:54,425 --> 00:46:56,927
...Harris is away on leave
and can't be traced.
552
00:46:58,930 --> 00:47:01,181
There was a hint
he may be suffering from stress.
553
00:47:01,266 --> 00:47:03,183
Do you believe that?
554
00:47:03,434 --> 00:47:04,601
No.
555
00:47:05,895 --> 00:47:07,145
Mr. Kerrigan...
556
00:47:07,939 --> 00:47:09,982
How far are you willing to go with this?
557
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:11,942
If...
558
00:47:12,610 --> 00:47:14,653
...and it's still a big if...
559
00:47:14,737 --> 00:47:18,490
...but if Harris is, in any way,
connected with this shooting...
560
00:47:19,075 --> 00:47:21,660
...I don't care whose toes I tread on.
561
00:47:21,744 --> 00:47:26,081
He becomes part of the investigation,
no more, no less.
562
00:47:27,959 --> 00:47:29,751
- Okay?
- Okay.
563
00:47:31,254 --> 00:47:34,590
What it boils down to, Sergeant,
is that you're in deep trouble.
564
00:47:34,966 --> 00:47:38,218
You're in a shit storm,
and it's blowing around your ears.
565
00:47:38,303 --> 00:47:40,596
We're not just talking about
disciplinary charges.
566
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,556
It goes beyond that.
567
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,267
You could be facing a murder charge.
568
00:47:45,602 --> 00:47:48,186
This man Sullivan was
no run-of-the-mill Paddy...
569
00:47:48,271 --> 00:47:50,230
...you could just blow away.
570
00:47:50,315 --> 00:47:53,066
He was an American lawyer
with an international reputation.
571
00:47:53,151 --> 00:47:56,236
Now, there is no way
this will be brushed under the carpet.
572
00:47:57,822 --> 00:47:59,531
How old are you?
573
00:48:00,366 --> 00:48:01,533
37.
574
00:48:02,410 --> 00:48:05,704
- How long have you been on the force?
- Twelve years.
575
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:14,546
Two years ago,
you shot dead a Republican in the Falls.
576
00:48:14,631 --> 00:48:17,924
- It was either him or me, sir.
- I'm not criticizing you, Sergeant.
577
00:48:18,009 --> 00:48:19,801
You should have been given
a commendation.
578
00:48:19,886 --> 00:48:22,429
- I was.
- I'm on your side.
579
00:48:24,682 --> 00:48:26,558
But if you go down for this...
580
00:48:27,352 --> 00:48:31,355
...how long do you think you'd last
in the Crumlin Road Prison?
581
00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:38,487
- You searched the bodies?
- Yes, sir.
582
00:48:38,571 --> 00:48:41,114
- Took away all personal effects?
- Yes, sir.
583
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:43,492
Find anything interesting on Sullivan?
584
00:48:43,743 --> 00:48:48,497
Usual stuff: Wallet, money, ID card.
585
00:48:49,540 --> 00:48:52,000
What about the tape he was carrying?
586
00:48:54,629 --> 00:48:56,672
There was no tape, sir.
587
00:48:58,299 --> 00:49:00,634
- Are you getting all this?
- Yes, sir.
588
00:49:00,718 --> 00:49:03,303
- Read out that last bit.
- From where?
589
00:49:03,388 --> 00:49:05,013
From me asking about the tape.
590
00:49:05,556 --> 00:49:10,310
"What about the tape he was carrying?"
"There was no tape, sir".
591
00:49:11,521 --> 00:49:13,563
Do you want me to leave it at that?
592
00:49:13,731 --> 00:49:17,317
It's up to you. You've already lied once
in your statement to the CID.
593
00:49:17,443 --> 00:49:21,780
- I'm bound by the Official Secrets Act.
- Not anymore, you're not.
594
00:49:22,907 --> 00:49:25,117
All constraints are lifted.
595
00:49:26,035 --> 00:49:29,246
You can wipe the slate clean
and tell me everything that happened...
596
00:49:29,330 --> 00:49:32,666
...and you might get off with a reprimand,
or you bury yourself deeper.
597
00:49:33,459 --> 00:49:35,252
So what's it gonna be?
598
00:49:43,428 --> 00:49:45,220
After the shooting...
599
00:49:46,472 --> 00:49:49,683
...we returned to the barracks
for the debriefing.
600
00:49:52,019 --> 00:49:53,729
We were told...
601
00:49:54,605 --> 00:49:57,357
...by a senior officer what to say.
602
00:49:58,776 --> 00:49:59,985
Name?
603
00:50:01,779 --> 00:50:03,405
Superintendent Fraser.
604
00:50:04,407 --> 00:50:06,616
He instructed you to lie to the CID?
605
00:50:06,743 --> 00:50:08,201
Yes, sir.
606
00:50:08,286 --> 00:50:11,288
He said it was to protect
our source of information.
607
00:50:11,372 --> 00:50:13,373
Do you know what that source was?
608
00:50:13,458 --> 00:50:15,584
No, sir. We were only told to intercept.
609
00:50:16,627 --> 00:50:19,254
Were you ordered to shoot on sight?
610
00:50:20,465 --> 00:50:22,424
Not in so many words.
611
00:50:23,301 --> 00:50:24,593
What does that mean?
612
00:50:25,595 --> 00:50:29,639
We were told that the two men in the car
were armed and dangerous...
613
00:50:29,724 --> 00:50:32,768
...and we mustn't take
any chances with them.
614
00:50:33,644 --> 00:50:35,896
How did you interpret that?
615
00:50:36,814 --> 00:50:39,733
I got the feeling that we were
being given clear signals...
616
00:50:39,817 --> 00:50:43,820
...to bring them back dead or alive,
and there'd be no questions asked.
617
00:50:44,655 --> 00:50:46,948
Now, tell me about the tape.
618
00:50:48,785 --> 00:50:51,036
We took it from the American.
619
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,412
Go on.
620
00:50:53,331 --> 00:50:55,540
When we got back to the barracks...
621
00:50:56,167 --> 00:50:58,168
...Mr. Fraser was there to meet us.
622
00:50:58,252 --> 00:51:00,378
And there was someone else
along with him.
623
00:51:00,463 --> 00:51:03,673
- A police officer?
- More like Special Branch.
624
00:51:04,008 --> 00:51:06,593
- What was his name?
- I don't know.
625
00:51:06,677 --> 00:51:08,053
But he seemed to be in charge.
626
00:51:09,597 --> 00:51:11,515
Can you describe him?
627
00:51:12,016 --> 00:51:13,433
English...
628
00:51:14,352 --> 00:51:15,644
...tall...
629
00:51:16,312 --> 00:51:18,021
...thinning on top...
630
00:51:18,689 --> 00:51:20,273
...age, about 40.
631
00:51:22,318 --> 00:51:24,069
So what happened?
632
00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:29,366
The first thing the tall man asked about
was the tape.
633
00:51:30,743 --> 00:51:33,161
- Which he took with him?
- Yes, sir.
634
00:51:33,704 --> 00:51:37,499
Have you any idea what was
on the tape? -Not a clue, sir.
635
00:51:40,878 --> 00:51:42,170
Okay.
636
00:51:43,673 --> 00:51:47,259
We'll just run through it again.
Then you can sign it.
637
00:51:51,597 --> 00:51:53,765
Do you have his statement?
638
00:51:57,728 --> 00:51:59,187
Here. Now.
639
00:51:59,897 --> 00:52:03,525
The senior officer that did the debriefing,
Superintendent Fraser, yeah...
640
00:52:03,609 --> 00:52:05,944
...I want to see him today.
641
00:52:06,070 --> 00:52:07,153
What do you think?
642
00:52:07,238 --> 00:52:09,906
I think it's time
I had a word with Mr. Brodie...
643
00:52:09,991 --> 00:52:14,369
...after I've interviewed Fraser.
There's something else I want you to do.
644
00:52:14,704 --> 00:52:18,123
Before he left the hotel,
Sullivan wrote a list of names.
645
00:52:18,207 --> 00:52:20,333
I want you to check them.
646
00:52:20,668 --> 00:52:24,546
The connection is obvious.
Famous punters, what have you.
647
00:52:25,423 --> 00:52:27,841
I want something more specific.
648
00:52:28,384 --> 00:52:32,012
- Has Brodie seen this?
- No. We'll keep it in the family.
649
00:52:38,603 --> 00:52:40,020
538, please.
650
00:52:43,566 --> 00:52:46,735
Here's your key,
and there's a message for you as well.
651
00:54:11,153 --> 00:54:13,863
- Hiya. Come on in.
- Thanks.
652
00:54:23,082 --> 00:54:24,249
Hey.
653
00:54:25,668 --> 00:54:27,544
- Kevin.
- Here you are.
654
00:54:28,295 --> 00:54:29,671
Thanks.
655
00:54:29,922 --> 00:54:33,341
Look, I was really sorry
to hear about Mr. Sullivan.
656
00:54:33,718 --> 00:54:35,093
Thanks.
657
00:54:38,222 --> 00:54:39,681
Do you smoke?
658
00:54:39,765 --> 00:54:43,226
- Here.
- Yes. Thanks.
659
00:54:44,186 --> 00:54:46,855
- So is it just you and Kevin?
- Yeah.
660
00:54:47,398 --> 00:54:50,108
His dad's doing 1 2 years in the Kesh.
661
00:54:51,569 --> 00:54:52,402
What for?
662
00:54:53,195 --> 00:54:56,031
Possession of arms and IRA membership.
663
00:54:56,365 --> 00:55:00,118
He was doing a punishment for the IRA
on some local gangsters...
664
00:55:00,202 --> 00:55:04,748
...who were robbin' their own community,
and he got caught by the RUC.
665
00:55:05,374 --> 00:55:08,334
Just like him.
He never did have much luck.
666
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,882
So you said in your note
that you might have some information.
667
00:55:14,175 --> 00:55:16,468
I'm just delivering a message.
668
00:55:17,219 --> 00:55:20,555
Harris wants to meet you
and the policeman Kerrigan.
669
00:55:21,390 --> 00:55:23,349
- When?
- Tomorrow night.
670
00:55:24,935 --> 00:55:28,354
Look, after what's happened,
can you trust Kerrigan?
671
00:55:29,231 --> 00:55:34,110
- Yeah, I trust him. I think he's different.
- Anyway, Harris wants him there.
672
00:55:35,154 --> 00:55:38,782
You're to meet at a Republican club
off Falls Road. I have the address.
673
00:55:39,575 --> 00:55:41,659
Will Kerrigan be safe in a Republican club?
674
00:55:41,744 --> 00:55:44,913
He'll be safe as long as you're with him.
675
00:55:45,498 --> 00:55:48,625
I'll get you that photograph
I told you about.
676
00:55:50,878 --> 00:55:52,378
This is it.
677
00:55:54,173 --> 00:55:56,508
He's an officer in the SAS.
678
00:55:57,301 --> 00:55:59,928
He led a killer squad across the border.
679
00:56:00,012 --> 00:56:02,430
That's where this photograph was taken.
680
00:56:10,981 --> 00:56:13,900
Is there anything
in Sgt. Kennedy's statement...
681
00:56:13,984 --> 00:56:16,736
...you disagree with, Superintendent?
682
00:56:17,655 --> 00:56:19,030
No, sir.
683
00:56:19,323 --> 00:56:22,784
He says that you instructed
him to lie to the CID...
684
00:56:23,369 --> 00:56:26,788
...about the shooting of Paul Sullivan
and Frank Molloy. Is this true?
685
00:56:28,374 --> 00:56:30,375
It was to protect our source of information.
686
00:56:30,459 --> 00:56:33,795
- Can you tell me what that source was?
- That's classified information.
687
00:56:33,879 --> 00:56:37,132
- On whose orders?
- On the orders of Mr. Brodie.
688
00:56:40,511 --> 00:56:44,264
When your men returned to the barracks,
they were given a debriefing.
689
00:56:44,515 --> 00:56:47,016
Were they given a cover-up story?
690
00:56:48,018 --> 00:56:50,228
Certain evidence was withheld, yes.
691
00:56:50,312 --> 00:56:54,107
A dress rehearsal,
so they could decide what to tell the CID?
692
00:56:55,609 --> 00:56:57,402
- Yes, sir.
- By you?
693
00:56:58,571 --> 00:57:01,447
Yes, sir, but I was acting under orders.
694
00:57:04,410 --> 00:57:06,327
This Englishman...
695
00:57:08,038 --> 00:57:10,665
...tall, thinning hair, about 40...
696
00:57:11,458 --> 00:57:13,793
...who took the tape, who is he?
697
00:57:14,962 --> 00:57:17,547
- Don't know, sir.
- Have you seen him before?
698
00:57:19,967 --> 00:57:22,093
Once, with Mr. Brodie.
699
00:57:22,428 --> 00:57:23,720
Where?
700
00:57:25,014 --> 00:57:27,015
Here, in this building.
701
00:57:27,683 --> 00:57:31,477
- Did he show you his authority?
- No, sir.
702
00:57:32,688 --> 00:57:35,356
He just walked in and took the tape?
703
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:39,027
I received a phone call from Mr. Brodie.
704
00:57:39,695 --> 00:57:41,279
He told you to give it to him?
705
00:57:42,781 --> 00:57:44,199
Yes, sir.
706
00:57:46,577 --> 00:57:49,078
- Would you mind if I smoke, sir?
- Yes, I do.
707
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:08,139
Go!
708
00:58:08,641 --> 00:58:09,891
Move! Move it!
709
00:58:10,226 --> 00:58:12,227
Get out of here!
710
00:58:13,312 --> 00:58:16,231
- Police!
- Get out of my house!
711
00:58:17,942 --> 00:58:21,277
- There's nobody in there! Just get out!
- Get inside, get in there.
712
00:58:21,362 --> 00:58:24,614
What do you want? My baby's in there.
Don't let them go in there!
713
00:58:24,698 --> 00:58:27,075
I'm arresting you under
the Emergency Provisions Act.
714
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:30,036
- Get your clothes on now!
- What are they doing?
715
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,579
My baby's in the other room.
716
00:58:31,664 --> 00:58:34,207
Okay, that's too bad. Get your clothes on!
717
00:58:34,291 --> 00:58:37,001
- No! What are you arresting me for?
- Get your clothes on.
718
00:58:37,086 --> 00:58:40,338
- I'm arresting you under Section 1 1 !
- I haven't done anything!
719
00:58:40,422 --> 00:58:44,008
- We'll see about that!
- Will you, now? I'm going nowhere!
720
00:58:44,093 --> 00:58:46,261
Tell him to get out of there!
My baby's in there!
721
00:58:46,345 --> 00:58:49,305
- Get your clothes on now!
- I'm putting no clothes on!
722
00:58:52,977 --> 00:58:55,311
Get off!
723
00:58:55,396 --> 00:58:57,772
- You bitch!
- Get off!
724
00:59:00,609 --> 00:59:03,611
- Get off me!
- Just calm down!
725
00:59:03,696 --> 00:59:05,738
I'm going nowhere
until I've seen a solicitor!
726
00:59:05,823 --> 00:59:09,575
- Just calm down! Open the door, Sam.
- What about my baby next door?
727
00:59:09,827 --> 00:59:12,161
Open that door. We're going downtown.
728
00:59:12,746 --> 00:59:15,081
- I'm going nowhere!
- Hold her!
729
00:59:23,716 --> 00:59:26,968
- Has Brodie's office returned my call yet?
- No.
730
00:59:28,012 --> 00:59:29,637
Try again now.
731
00:59:36,478 --> 00:59:38,187
Mr. Kerrigan's secretary.
732
00:59:38,272 --> 00:59:41,691
Did you set up that appointment
with Mr. Brodie yet?
733
00:59:42,109 --> 00:59:45,320
Why not?
I've been trying since 1 2:00 yesterday.
734
00:59:47,489 --> 00:59:49,699
Excuse me. He can't meet you today.
735
00:59:49,783 --> 00:59:52,994
- He has an official engagement.
- Playing games.
736
00:59:54,121 --> 00:59:55,747
Find out when he's leaving.
737
00:59:57,041 --> 00:59:59,125
Is Mr. Brodie there now?
738
01:00:00,127 --> 01:00:02,879
What time's his appointment? Thank you.
739
01:00:03,547 --> 01:00:04,964
He's there until 2:30.
740
01:00:17,353 --> 01:00:20,605
Two statements:
Fraser's and Sgt. Kennedy's.
741
01:00:20,689 --> 01:00:23,858
- I'd like to see them.
- They'll be in my report.
742
01:00:24,026 --> 01:00:26,402
- And now you want to question me?
- Interview you.
743
01:00:26,487 --> 01:00:29,364
- Make an appointment.
- All right. When?
744
01:00:29,823 --> 01:00:33,034
- At my convenience.
- Will you get off your fuckin' high horse?
745
01:00:33,660 --> 01:00:36,662
I don't ask your cooperation! I demand it!
746
01:00:38,624 --> 01:00:42,335
- What is it you want?
- Everything, chapter and verse.
747
01:00:43,253 --> 01:00:45,421
- That might not be possible.
- Why not?
748
01:00:45,714 --> 01:00:47,840
Give me your question,
and please try to hurry.
749
01:00:47,925 --> 01:00:50,385
I've got another funeral to attend.
750
01:00:50,469 --> 01:00:54,555
Both Superintendent Fraser and
Sgt. Kennedy admit there was a cover-up.
751
01:00:55,849 --> 01:00:58,851
- Fraser says you ordered it.
- Classified.
752
01:00:58,936 --> 01:01:00,269
Then the buck stops here?
753
01:01:00,396 --> 01:01:03,022
- It's classified.
- I can't accept that.
754
01:01:03,107 --> 01:01:05,983
Then put that in your report, too.
Next question.
755
01:01:06,527 --> 01:01:07,819
- He says...
- Who says?
756
01:01:07,903 --> 01:01:12,365
Fraser says
it was in order to protect the source.
757
01:01:12,783 --> 01:01:15,660
- That's acceptable.
- Not to me, it isn't.
758
01:01:15,744 --> 01:01:17,954
That's because
you have been meddling in things...
759
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,291
Meddling? I am conducting
an investigation, for Christ's Sake!
760
01:01:23,544 --> 01:01:25,795
Cover-up stories are used
to protect informants...
761
01:01:25,879 --> 01:01:28,506
...whose lives might be endangered.
762
01:01:28,757 --> 01:01:29,966
Look.
763
01:01:30,134 --> 01:01:34,095
The last thing I want to do
is to probe into sensitive areas.
764
01:01:34,555 --> 01:01:36,973
But these civil-liberties people
are organised.
765
01:01:37,057 --> 01:01:39,934
They're sending over a lawyer
from the States for the inquest.
766
01:01:40,018 --> 01:01:41,018
So?
767
01:01:41,103 --> 01:01:43,688
They'll make mincemeat out of you.
They'll ask questions.
768
01:01:43,772 --> 01:01:45,773
I've got a couple questions of my own.
769
01:01:46,316 --> 01:01:47,900
There was no roadblock.
770
01:01:47,985 --> 01:01:50,528
No witnesses were questioned,
no resistance offered.
771
01:01:50,612 --> 01:01:52,780
The weapon found in the car
had no fingerprints.
772
01:01:52,865 --> 01:01:55,032
Forensic showed
the shot that killed Sullivan...
773
01:01:55,117 --> 01:01:59,412
...was fired at a distance of two meters
after the car had crashed.
774
01:01:59,538 --> 01:02:01,873
The officers involved
were acting on the assumption...
775
01:02:01,957 --> 01:02:04,083
...that both men
were armed and dangerous.
776
01:02:04,168 --> 01:02:05,585
Prove it.
777
01:02:07,337 --> 01:02:10,882
What was Sullivan doing in Dungannon
at 5:00 in the morning with Molloy?
778
01:02:10,966 --> 01:02:12,383
Was there a warrant out for them?
779
01:02:12,468 --> 01:02:14,802
- No, there wasn't.
- Then you've no case.
780
01:02:14,887 --> 01:02:17,805
There's no law against
two men deciding to go out for a drive.
781
01:02:17,890 --> 01:02:20,892
When that comes out in court,
your cover story will be blown...
782
01:02:20,976 --> 01:02:24,145
...because neither Kennedy nor Fraser
are prepared to carry the can.
783
01:02:24,229 --> 01:02:26,814
- That's for the DPP to decide.
- Will he have a choice?
784
01:02:26,899 --> 01:02:30,610
When that lawyer gets him at the inquest,
he'll squeeze him like toothpaste.
785
01:02:30,694 --> 01:02:33,738
Do you think I give a shit
about a smart-arsed American lawyer?
786
01:02:33,822 --> 01:02:35,698
I would, if I were you!
787
01:02:35,782 --> 01:02:40,411
Yes. The RUC do run covert operations,
but so do the IRA!
788
01:02:40,621 --> 01:02:44,207
If you want to bring home the bacon,
you first of all have to kill the pig.
789
01:02:45,334 --> 01:02:47,460
Now, if you will excuse me...
790
01:02:47,878 --> 01:02:50,796
...three of our young men
are being buried this morning.
791
01:02:50,881 --> 01:02:52,632
Blown up by a land mine.
792
01:02:55,594 --> 01:02:57,178
I have more questions.
793
01:02:57,262 --> 01:02:59,764
Two of them were married
with young children.
794
01:02:59,848 --> 01:03:01,599
I want that tape.
795
01:03:03,644 --> 01:03:04,810
What tape?
796
01:03:04,937 --> 01:03:08,648
The tape they found on Sullivan's body
and brought back to Gough Barracks.
797
01:03:09,399 --> 01:03:10,691
This Fraser again?
798
01:03:10,776 --> 01:03:12,735
And Kennedy.
It's in both their statements.
799
01:03:12,819 --> 01:03:14,987
- I don't have the tape.
- But you know who does.
800
01:03:15,072 --> 01:03:18,157
- Classified information.
- "Classified" bullshit!
801
01:03:18,450 --> 01:03:22,620
What the fuck are you people runnin'
here? Your own private shooting war?
802
01:03:22,704 --> 01:03:24,622
Checks and balances, Mr. Kerrigan.
803
01:03:24,706 --> 01:03:26,958
Between the jigs and the reels,
we are winning.
804
01:03:27,042 --> 01:03:29,877
And innocent lives are being saved
as a result!
805
01:03:30,712 --> 01:03:33,548
The source you wish to protect
is Army Intelligence.
806
01:03:33,715 --> 01:03:35,091
Am I right?
807
01:03:38,053 --> 01:03:40,221
- What did you say?
- I'll say it again quickly.
808
01:03:40,347 --> 01:03:42,348
Molloy and Sullivan
were killed for that tape...
809
01:03:42,432 --> 01:03:45,977
...and Army Intelligence, MI5, Ml6,
call it what you want, are involved...
810
01:03:46,061 --> 01:03:49,105
...and I want to know why, Mr. Brodie.
811
01:03:49,523 --> 01:03:51,983
- Then take it up with them.
- You ordered it.
812
01:03:52,067 --> 01:03:54,986
My participation was limited
to policing the operation.
813
01:03:55,070 --> 01:03:57,738
- That will sound wonderful in court.
- What court?
814
01:03:57,864 --> 01:04:00,032
There will be accounting.
Charges will be made.
815
01:04:00,117 --> 01:04:02,368
- By you?
- I'll recommend it in my report.
816
01:04:02,494 --> 01:04:04,662
Which I shall take
to the DPP for him to decide.
817
01:04:04,746 --> 01:04:06,038
- It won't work.
- What won't?
818
01:04:06,123 --> 01:04:08,207
Not at my expense, it won't.
819
01:04:08,458 --> 01:04:12,753
My God, you're catchin' the Irish disease.
You're gettin' paranoid.
820
01:04:13,046 --> 01:04:15,881
If necessary,
I'm prepared to resign over this...
821
01:04:15,966 --> 01:04:18,759
...and start telling tales out of school.
822
01:04:18,844 --> 01:04:22,555
I don't think you will.
You're a career officer like me.
823
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,309
- I mean it.
- You'd resign the force and go public?
824
01:04:26,393 --> 01:04:27,977
If I have to.
825
01:04:28,478 --> 01:04:32,315
Listen, we're both professionals.
We observe certain rules.
826
01:04:32,524 --> 01:04:34,400
Then understand.
827
01:04:34,651 --> 01:04:36,319
Without access to that tape...
828
01:04:36,403 --> 01:04:39,530
...it is impossible for me
to evaluate the evidence.
829
01:04:39,615 --> 01:04:44,327
I'm afraid I can't help you there.
I have neither seen nor heard that tape.
830
01:04:44,494 --> 01:04:48,623
And frankly, I don't want the burden.
Now, if you will excuse me.
831
01:04:52,502 --> 01:04:54,086
Who's Harris?
832
01:04:55,672 --> 01:04:57,006
Harris?
833
01:04:57,507 --> 01:04:59,592
I've never heard of him.
834
01:05:04,264 --> 01:05:08,017
Ms. McKechnie, will you show Mr. Kerrigan
out of my office, please?
835
01:05:23,241 --> 01:05:25,826
I wonder what Harris'
connection with the Provos is?
836
01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:29,163
- Why do you think he has one?
- Why else meet in an IRA club?
837
01:05:29,289 --> 01:05:31,374
- It's a Republican club.
- Same difference.
838
01:05:31,458 --> 01:05:34,168
Not every Republican supports the IRA.
839
01:05:34,544 --> 01:05:37,838
Let's hope you're right.
I could be putting my head in a noose.
840
01:05:37,923 --> 01:05:40,091
I don't think you have to worry.
841
01:05:40,217 --> 01:05:42,968
You can count on the IRA to be predictable.
842
01:05:43,053 --> 01:05:45,513
Yes. They shoot policemen.
843
01:06:04,408 --> 01:06:06,367
Did you lock the door?
844
01:06:30,225 --> 01:06:32,393
- Are you lookin' for someone?
- Teresa Doyle.
845
01:06:32,477 --> 01:06:34,687
- You have to be signed in by a member.
- Pardon?
846
01:06:34,771 --> 01:06:38,858
- You have to be signed in by a member.
- That's why I'm waiting for her to come.
847
01:06:38,942 --> 01:06:43,529
It's okay, Danny. I know these people.
I take full responsibility for them.
848
01:06:43,613 --> 01:06:45,948
Welcome to
the James Connolly Republican Club.
849
01:06:46,032 --> 01:06:49,034
I'm Liam Philbin, Sinn Fein rep for this area
and club secretary.
850
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:50,327
Ingrid Jessner.
851
01:06:50,412 --> 01:06:51,871
Hello. Peter Kerrigan.
852
01:06:52,706 --> 01:06:54,832
- Got here okay, then?
- Yeah, fine, thanks.
853
01:06:54,916 --> 01:06:57,877
Would you like to buy a football ticket?
Football ticket.
854
01:06:58,211 --> 01:06:59,587
Never misses a trick.
855
01:06:59,671 --> 01:07:02,089
- Fifty pence.
- Four.
856
01:07:02,883 --> 01:07:03,924
Thank you.
857
01:07:05,927 --> 01:07:09,638
Congratulations. You've just contributed
to a fund for Republican prisoners.
858
01:07:09,723 --> 01:07:10,681
Thank you very much.
859
01:07:10,766 --> 01:07:12,933
- Here's a present.
- Down to you.
860
01:07:13,018 --> 01:07:15,478
- Shall we go in?
- Sure. Is Teresa here?
861
01:07:15,562 --> 01:07:18,355
- No, Teresa got lifted on Monday.
- Lifted? What for?
862
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,983
Harassment. Happens all the time.
863
01:07:21,443 --> 01:07:22,818
- Is she all right?
- She's okay.
864
01:07:22,903 --> 01:07:25,529
- And the baby?
- They're being looked after.
865
01:07:25,614 --> 01:07:27,740
"In the Maidstone and the Maze
866
01:07:28,116 --> 01:07:31,911
"I thought about my land
throughout these days
867
01:07:32,704 --> 01:07:35,289
"Why my country was divided
868
01:07:35,582 --> 01:07:37,958
"Why I was now in jail
869
01:07:38,251 --> 01:07:41,879
"Imprisoned without crime or without trial
870
01:07:43,256 --> 01:07:47,968
"And now I love my country
I am not a bitter man
871
01:07:48,220 --> 01:07:52,223
"I've seen cruelty and injustice at first hand
872
01:07:54,059 --> 01:07:58,729
"And then one fateful mornin'
I shook bold freedom's hand
873
01:07:59,105 --> 01:08:02,358
"For right or wrong, I tried to free my land
874
01:08:03,819 --> 01:08:08,739
"And you dare call me a terrorist
while you look down your gun
875
01:08:08,949 --> 01:08:12,701
"When I think of all the deeds
that you have done
876
01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:18,624
"You have plundered many nations,
divided many lands
877
01:08:18,875 --> 01:08:23,671
"You have terrorised their people
You've ruled with an iron hand
878
01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:27,758
"And you've brought this reign of terror
to my land
879
01:08:29,302 --> 01:08:34,014
"And you dare call me a terrorist
while you look down your gun
880
01:08:34,391 --> 01:08:38,269
"When I think of all the deeds
that you have done
881
01:08:39,354 --> 01:08:44,024
"You have plundered many nations,
divided many lands
882
01:08:44,192 --> 01:08:49,113
"You have terrorised their people
You've ruled with an iron hand
883
01:08:49,406 --> 01:08:53,325
"And you've brought this reign of terror
to my land
884
01:08:54,828 --> 01:08:59,707
"You've brought this reign of terror
to my land"
885
01:09:01,042 --> 01:09:02,501
Thank you.
886
01:09:08,717 --> 01:09:11,302
Jimmy here's gonna do the next one.
887
01:09:14,055 --> 01:09:16,599
On the wall,
you see a picture of James Connolly...
888
01:09:16,683 --> 01:09:18,601
...one of our greatest-ever Irish leaders.
889
01:09:18,894 --> 01:09:22,646
Connolly said, many years ago,
that England has no more moral right...
890
01:09:22,981 --> 01:09:24,648
...to administer Irish affairs...
891
01:09:24,733 --> 01:09:27,735
...than it has to administer the affairs
of America or Japan.
892
01:09:28,069 --> 01:09:32,197
No more moral right to police us
than it has a moral right to shoot us.
893
01:09:32,282 --> 01:09:34,283
That is the answer: British withdrawal.
894
01:09:34,409 --> 01:09:35,743
That's the answer...
895
01:09:36,578 --> 01:09:40,289
...but innocent people have been killed.
896
01:09:40,373 --> 01:09:43,959
Yes, innocent people have been killed
and are being killed.
897
01:09:44,085 --> 01:09:47,046
But if you look at all the colonies,
for instance, America.
898
01:09:47,130 --> 01:09:49,590
George Washington was called a terrorist
in his time.
899
01:09:49,674 --> 01:09:53,802
Jomo Kenyatta was a terrorist.
Archbishop Makarios was a terrorist.
900
01:09:53,887 --> 01:09:57,514
Unfortunately, colonies appear
to have to fight for their freedom.
901
01:09:57,641 --> 01:10:00,225
It is never granted willingly.
They must struggle for it.
902
01:10:00,310 --> 01:10:01,644
Liam...
903
01:10:02,103 --> 01:10:04,855
Do you know why Paul
was with Mr. Molloy that morning?
904
01:10:04,940 --> 01:10:08,400
Yes. Molloy was taking him
to meet Harris, in fact.
905
01:10:08,485 --> 01:10:10,569
- Where?
- At a safe house.
906
01:10:10,946 --> 01:10:12,029
That you provided?
907
01:10:12,113 --> 01:10:15,866
- Yes. Our interests coincided.
- In what way?
908
01:10:16,910 --> 01:10:19,495
Let's just say that our enemies
became his enemies.
909
01:10:19,871 --> 01:10:21,747
Where is he, Liam?
910
01:10:21,957 --> 01:10:26,085
He's out the back here, waitin' for you.
If you like, we'll go now and see him.
911
01:10:26,169 --> 01:10:28,420
- Yes.
- Good, then. Come on.
912
01:10:35,428 --> 01:10:37,554
"Gloucester's crumbling
pushed us westward
913
01:10:37,639 --> 01:10:40,933
"To liberate all the Irish
Some of us that came to fight
914
01:10:41,017 --> 01:10:43,435
"From Tipperary mountainside"
915
01:10:47,607 --> 01:10:49,024
Here's your visitors now.
916
01:10:50,068 --> 01:10:52,903
- Thank you, Liam.
- Okay. I'll leave you to it.
917
01:10:52,988 --> 01:10:54,238
Thank you.
918
01:10:54,948 --> 01:10:57,074
- Harris?
- Yes.
919
01:10:58,201 --> 01:11:01,787
- How much has Liam told you?
- Only that Molloy brought you here...
920
01:11:01,913 --> 01:11:04,915
...and that you were sheltered by the IRA.
921
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,419
- And you find that reprehensible?
- For Molloy? No.
922
01:11:08,712 --> 01:11:10,504
No. He has his loyalties.
923
01:11:10,588 --> 01:11:14,717
But for you,
an officer serving in the British Army, yes.
924
01:11:20,515 --> 01:11:23,308
I am terribly sorry about what happened.
925
01:11:23,393 --> 01:11:25,686
I really didn't think they'd go that far.
926
01:11:26,563 --> 01:11:28,897
Why did you want to see Paul?
927
01:11:29,190 --> 01:11:32,943
- I gave him a tape. Didn't you know that?
- Not till later.
928
01:11:35,155 --> 01:11:36,822
Coming here could cost me my life.
929
01:11:36,906 --> 01:11:41,076
Mine, too, but unlike you,
I don't have the IRA to protect me.
930
01:11:41,202 --> 01:11:43,412
I gave the IRA nothing.
931
01:12:00,555 --> 01:12:03,640
I was an Army Intelligence officer
co-opted to work with Ml6...
932
01:12:03,725 --> 01:12:05,434
...and MI5 when they took over.
933
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,935
PSYOPS.
934
01:12:07,395 --> 01:12:10,481
Our cover name was
"Information Policy Unit".
935
01:12:10,982 --> 01:12:14,151
Our official function was
to liaise with the press...
936
01:12:14,235 --> 01:12:17,279
...and prepare public relations programs.
937
01:12:17,947 --> 01:12:19,573
And unofficial?
938
01:12:20,158 --> 01:12:21,992
We had our own printing press.
939
01:12:22,077 --> 01:12:25,662
We'd forge documents
attributed to Republican sources.
940
01:12:25,955 --> 01:12:29,958
We'd provide material for the media:
Newspapers, magazines, television.
941
01:12:30,043 --> 01:12:31,627
- Black propaganda?
- Yes.
942
01:12:31,711 --> 01:12:33,712
What kind of material?
943
01:12:34,547 --> 01:12:37,007
Whatever we thought was necessary.
944
01:12:37,092 --> 01:12:40,427
We'd invent stories, leak truths, leak lies...
945
01:12:40,929 --> 01:12:42,137
...leak half-truths.
946
01:12:42,597 --> 01:12:45,015
Accountable to the politicians.
947
01:12:46,810 --> 01:12:49,436
Let us get one thing straight, Kerrigan.
948
01:12:49,646 --> 01:12:51,814
We were accountable to no one.
949
01:12:51,898 --> 01:12:55,984
The Prime Minister, Parliament, the courts,
the great British public...
950
01:12:56,069 --> 01:12:59,988
It made no difference.
They were all there to be manipulated.
951
01:13:00,281 --> 01:13:04,243
- And that didn't bother you?
- Not against the IRA, it didn't.
952
01:13:05,245 --> 01:13:08,288
But during the election of '74...
953
01:13:09,791 --> 01:13:12,584
...our work became increasingly political.
954
01:13:12,669 --> 01:13:14,711
MI5 were running things.
955
01:13:14,796 --> 01:13:17,005
Our long-term objectives were abandoned.
956
01:13:17,173 --> 01:13:20,759
The new emphasis was on
assassination teams, bounty hunters.
957
01:13:21,219 --> 01:13:23,804
But the PSYOPS unit continued to operate?
958
01:13:24,055 --> 01:13:26,515
Yes, but with fresh targets.
959
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,520
During the '70s, the Conservative Party
was demoralised and divided.
960
01:13:31,604 --> 01:13:33,605
They saw their party leader,
Edward Heath...
961
01:13:33,690 --> 01:13:37,067
...cave in against the miners' strike of '74
and were searching for...
962
01:13:37,152 --> 01:13:39,820
...a new leader from the hard right.
963
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,492
We circulated stories about his private life.
964
01:13:46,202 --> 01:13:47,286
Heath was dumped.
965
01:13:47,495 --> 01:13:49,663
And replaced by Thatcher.
966
01:13:49,831 --> 01:13:51,874
Yeah, but that wasn't enough.
967
01:13:51,958 --> 01:13:54,585
There was concern
amongst business and the military...
968
01:13:54,669 --> 01:13:57,171
...that Labour were heading for
a third term in office.
969
01:13:57,255 --> 01:13:59,756
The moderates would be replaced
by the left-wingers...
970
01:13:59,841 --> 01:14:03,343
...who, in turn, would be opposed
to NATO and nuclear weapons.
971
01:14:03,428 --> 01:14:07,764
Remember, inflation was running rife,
industry was crippled by strikes.
972
01:14:08,016 --> 01:14:10,267
What is this leading up to?
973
01:14:10,351 --> 01:14:12,102
Treason, Mr. Kerrigan.
974
01:14:13,021 --> 01:14:16,356
Pressure came from the CIA
to get rid of the Labour government.
975
01:14:16,441 --> 01:14:17,482
Jesus.
976
01:14:17,859 --> 01:14:21,069
They fed information to M1 5
that Prime Minister Wilson...
977
01:14:21,154 --> 01:14:23,155
...was a KGB agent.
978
01:14:23,531 --> 01:14:26,325
It was a joint CIA-MI5 operation...
979
01:14:26,784 --> 01:14:28,827
...supported by others in Whitehall.
980
01:14:29,287 --> 01:14:32,331
Yeah, the whole bag
of dirty tricks was used:
981
01:14:33,249 --> 01:14:37,794
Smears, break-ins, burglaries,
phone-tapping, blackmail, disinformation.
982
01:14:42,217 --> 01:14:45,510
- If what you say is true...
- It all landed on my desk.
983
01:14:45,595 --> 01:14:48,680
- And you believed it?
- I did when it was used by Alec Nevin...
984
01:14:49,224 --> 01:14:51,975
...the future Prime Minister's
closest political ally...
985
01:14:52,060 --> 01:14:55,729
...the principal architect
of her victory over Edward Heath.
986
01:14:55,813 --> 01:14:59,107
You're saying that Thatcher
was involved in this?
987
01:15:01,486 --> 01:15:04,488
No, but she was the main beneficiary.
988
01:15:06,574 --> 01:15:11,036
The files and documents I got from MI5
I turned into articles and essays...
989
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,080
...for selected journalists...
990
01:15:13,373 --> 01:15:15,457
...and speeches for Alec Nevin.
991
01:15:17,877 --> 01:15:21,588
- Why should I believe you?
- Because it's all on the tape.
992
01:15:22,257 --> 01:15:24,841
Why else do you think
they tried to get rid of me?
993
01:15:24,968 --> 01:15:27,344
If this comes out,
with Nevin's explicit connections...
994
01:15:27,428 --> 01:15:30,347
...to the Prime Minister,
the spotlight falls on Number 1 0.
995
01:15:30,431 --> 01:15:33,642
- That's why his name is on the list.
- What list?
996
01:15:34,018 --> 01:15:36,395
Paul made a list of six names.
997
01:15:39,190 --> 01:15:42,025
- Do you have them with you?
- I took them.
998
01:15:42,110 --> 01:15:44,778
Then I suggest you study that list
very carefully.
999
01:15:44,862 --> 01:15:47,447
- Why?
- Because they are the prime movers...
1000
01:15:47,991 --> 01:15:51,743
...Nevin's ideological counterparts
in business, industry, the military.
1001
01:15:51,828 --> 01:15:53,829
Together they form the nucleus.
1002
01:15:53,955 --> 01:15:56,039
Their priority was to
wreck Labour's chances
1003
01:15:56,124 --> 01:15:57,791
of winning another general election...
1004
01:15:57,875 --> 01:16:00,460
...and if necessary,
were prepared to go even further.
1005
01:16:00,545 --> 01:16:03,046
You want wrapping up in a blanket.
1006
01:16:03,131 --> 01:16:06,717
Paul knew this. He heard the tape.
He had the tape.
1007
01:16:06,801 --> 01:16:09,428
- That's why they murdered him.
- I think you're insane.
1008
01:16:09,512 --> 01:16:10,554
I can prove it.
1009
01:16:10,638 --> 01:16:14,182
- Why would he lie?
- I don't know: Guilt, pressure...
1010
01:16:16,144 --> 01:16:17,769
...acute paranoia.
1011
01:16:17,854 --> 01:16:20,022
- I'm as sane as you are.
- And I believe him.
1012
01:16:20,106 --> 01:16:22,065
It couldn't happen.
1013
01:16:22,150 --> 01:16:23,483
It did.
1014
01:16:35,538 --> 01:16:37,539
Why didn't you resign?
1015
01:16:41,502 --> 01:16:43,545
I was a career officer.
1016
01:16:44,756 --> 01:16:47,674
One hoped
that the situation would change.
1017
01:16:48,843 --> 01:16:51,803
But I also saw what happened
to people in a similar position.
1018
01:16:52,221 --> 01:16:53,972
Good men ruined.
1019
01:16:54,098 --> 01:16:55,724
So you went along with it?
1020
01:16:56,309 --> 01:16:57,476
No.
1021
01:16:58,061 --> 01:17:02,272
I asked questions about it.
At first, they were very understanding.
1022
01:17:02,482 --> 01:17:06,276
They said I was suffering from stress,
mental fatigue, physical exhaustion.
1023
01:17:06,361 --> 01:17:08,612
That I needed a break
from Northern Ireland.
1024
01:17:08,738 --> 01:17:10,447
So they sent me to the mainland...
1025
01:17:10,531 --> 01:17:13,867
...as an instructor
to the School of Intelligence.
1026
01:17:16,662 --> 01:17:19,247
In late '77, I was posted back here.
1027
01:17:21,167 --> 01:17:25,087
- How did they find out about this tape?
- Because I behaved stupidly.
1028
01:17:25,421 --> 01:17:28,465
Instead of keeping my head down,
I had a row about it all.
1029
01:17:28,549 --> 01:17:31,051
Consequently,
I was put under close surveillance.
1030
01:17:31,135 --> 01:17:33,804
Mail was opened, phones were tapped.
1031
01:17:33,888 --> 01:17:36,681
They searched my room
and found a backup copy of the tape...
1032
01:17:36,766 --> 01:17:38,767
...stitched in the lining of my beret.
1033
01:17:38,893 --> 01:17:41,645
So I took the original tape and ran.
1034
01:17:42,897 --> 01:17:44,231
Still running.
1035
01:17:46,067 --> 01:17:48,276
You say you have this tape?
1036
01:17:49,362 --> 01:17:54,199
It's all there: Names, dates.
I bugged their meetings.
1037
01:17:54,409 --> 01:17:56,326
I wanted Sullivan to publicise it.
1038
01:17:56,411 --> 01:17:58,912
Being an American citizen
and a civil rights lawyer...
1039
01:17:58,996 --> 01:18:00,497
...I thought he was beyond reach.
1040
01:18:00,581 --> 01:18:02,207
You were wrong.
1041
01:18:04,585 --> 01:18:08,213
I'm afraid media exposure
is the only protection I have.
1042
01:18:08,297 --> 01:18:09,840
Do you have it with you?
1043
01:18:12,301 --> 01:18:14,344
I have certain demands.
1044
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:15,720
What demands?
1045
01:18:15,805 --> 01:18:18,932
When I deliver the tape,
I want to be taken into protective custody.
1046
01:18:19,016 --> 01:18:21,852
And I want you, Ms. Jessner,
to make it public.
1047
01:18:21,936 --> 01:18:24,020
- Agreed.
- I can't do that.
1048
01:18:24,105 --> 01:18:25,480
Why not?
1049
01:18:26,274 --> 01:18:30,235
Because he's not under my authority.
He's military personnel.
1050
01:18:30,403 --> 01:18:34,197
You were brought here
to investigate Paul Sullivan's death.
1051
01:18:34,282 --> 01:18:37,033
He was murdered because of that tape.
1052
01:18:39,162 --> 01:18:42,122
- Where is it?
- Do I have your agreement?
1053
01:18:45,376 --> 01:18:46,585
Yes.
1054
01:18:50,089 --> 01:18:51,423
Dublin.
1055
01:18:51,799 --> 01:18:53,758
The IRA found me a safe house.
1056
01:18:53,843 --> 01:18:56,303
They're hoping I'll come
to a prearranged meeting...
1057
01:18:56,387 --> 01:18:58,221
...and denounce British imperialism.
1058
01:18:58,306 --> 01:19:00,765
- When can we have it?
- You'll have to come to Dublin.
1059
01:19:00,850 --> 01:19:02,767
- When?
- Day after tomorrow.
1060
01:19:02,852 --> 01:19:04,144
Where?
1061
01:19:06,147 --> 01:19:09,107
- O'Connell Bridge, 1 1 :00 a.m.
- We'll be there.
1062
01:19:13,279 --> 01:19:14,905
One last thing.
1063
01:19:15,615 --> 01:19:17,365
Nevin has a man working for him.
1064
01:19:17,492 --> 01:19:20,702
His name is McKee,
a former member of the SAS.
1065
01:19:21,829 --> 01:19:24,664
- Look out for him.
- What's he look like?
1066
01:19:25,583 --> 01:19:28,752
Big man, tall, bland face, thinning hair.
1067
01:19:29,837 --> 01:19:32,797
He's quite ruthless, capable of anything.
1068
01:19:50,358 --> 01:19:53,902
Am I wrong, Mr. Kerrigan,
or is it illegal to kill people...
1069
01:19:53,986 --> 01:19:55,570
...and try to steal a country?
1070
01:19:55,655 --> 01:19:59,449
Don't assume it happened
just because Harris said it did.
1071
01:19:59,784 --> 01:20:02,827
Paul's dead! Molloy's dead!
That happened.
1072
01:20:02,954 --> 01:20:05,956
Save your outrage
till we've heard the tape.
1073
01:20:10,628 --> 01:20:12,879
- Good evening, love.
- Good evening, sir.
1074
01:20:12,964 --> 01:20:13,964
Thank you.
1075
01:20:14,507 --> 01:20:17,634
- Have you seen Mr. Maxwell?
- He's in the bar, sir.
1076
01:20:27,311 --> 01:20:30,397
- How'd it go?
- It was interesting.
1077
01:20:30,898 --> 01:20:32,315
Did you see Harris?
1078
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,526
Yes. He didn't have the tape.
1079
01:20:35,152 --> 01:20:37,362
You've had a call from MI5.
1080
01:20:37,613 --> 01:20:39,573
The spook department?
1081
01:20:40,449 --> 01:20:42,701
- Who?
- Sir Robert Neil.
1082
01:20:42,910 --> 01:20:47,205
He wants to meet you for lunch tomorrow.
He's sending his car at 1 2:00.
1083
01:20:50,334 --> 01:20:53,253
- Time for a drink?
- No. I've had enough.
1084
01:20:54,088 --> 01:20:56,047
You two okay?
1085
01:20:57,133 --> 01:20:59,801
- Yes, thank you, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Fine.
1086
01:21:00,886 --> 01:21:03,805
- Mind how you go.
- See you in the morning.
1087
01:21:31,125 --> 01:21:34,127
- Good morning, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Good morning.
1088
01:21:39,050 --> 01:21:40,717
- Come in, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Sir Robert.
1089
01:21:40,801 --> 01:21:42,927
Marvelous day. This way.
1090
01:21:50,227 --> 01:21:51,561
Do you know Alec Nevin?
1091
01:21:52,438 --> 01:21:54,898
No, I don't believe we've met.
1092
01:21:54,982 --> 01:21:57,859
I'm delighted to meet you.
I've heard a great deal about you.
1093
01:21:57,943 --> 01:21:59,569
How do you do?
1094
01:21:59,820 --> 01:22:02,822
- Sherry?
- No, thank you.
1095
01:22:19,924 --> 01:22:22,467
You've got your coffee, have you?
1096
01:22:23,386 --> 01:22:27,931
So, Mr. Kerrigan,
how has your inquiry progressed?
1097
01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:32,560
Sullivan and Molloy were killed
because of a tape.
1098
01:22:32,645 --> 01:22:34,145
What tape?
1099
01:22:34,605 --> 01:22:36,064
According to a Capt. Harris...
1100
01:22:36,148 --> 01:22:38,149
- You've met him?
- Last night.
1101
01:22:38,234 --> 01:22:39,651
Go on.
1102
01:22:40,903 --> 01:22:44,030
- Your name surfaced, Mr. Nevin.
- Really?
1103
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,786
He claims that he possesses a tape
which will prove that you and others...
1104
01:22:49,870 --> 01:22:53,456
...conspired to destabilise
the last Labour government.
1105
01:22:54,875 --> 01:22:57,711
He says he gave a copy of this tape
to Paul Sullivan...
1106
01:22:57,795 --> 01:23:01,047
...hoping he would publicise it,
and that's why Sullivan was killed.
1107
01:23:01,424 --> 01:23:06,094
- You've not heard the tape then?
- Not yet, but I will.
1108
01:23:06,721 --> 01:23:09,931
- You're seeing Harris again?
- I can't tell you.
1109
01:23:11,475 --> 01:23:14,436
Although he was strictly Army,
Harris worked for me.
1110
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,521
Yes, I know.
1111
01:23:18,399 --> 01:23:22,569
- He was rather good at what he did.
- He was a traitorous bastard.
1112
01:23:22,737 --> 01:23:24,654
When I arrived just now...
1113
01:23:24,739 --> 01:23:28,575
...there was a man who greeted me
at the car: Tall, thinning hair.
1114
01:23:28,659 --> 01:23:31,536
- What about him?
- I might want to question him.
1115
01:23:31,620 --> 01:23:34,330
After the tape was taken
from Sullivan's body...
1116
01:23:34,415 --> 01:23:37,333
...the police gave it to someone
answering his description.
1117
01:23:37,418 --> 01:23:41,337
I have four witnesses to identify him.
Did he give the tape to you?
1118
01:23:41,422 --> 01:23:44,841
- Are you interrogating me?
- Are you obstructing me?
1119
01:23:47,178 --> 01:23:51,765
If you let me listen to that tape,
I can eliminate Harris from my inquiry.
1120
01:23:52,683 --> 01:23:54,309
You have no choice, Alec.
1121
01:23:55,311 --> 01:23:58,563
Do you remember the
disorders of the 1 970s...
1122
01:23:59,273 --> 01:24:00,690
...Mr. Kerrigan?
1123
01:24:00,775 --> 01:24:02,984
The kind of chaos we faced...
1124
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,528
...strikes, riots...
1125
01:24:06,322 --> 01:24:09,574
...miners bringing down
a Conservative government...
1126
01:24:09,658 --> 01:24:13,870
...inflation going through the roof,
our European creditors...
1127
01:24:13,954 --> 01:24:15,747
...queuing up to pounce on us?
1128
01:24:16,165 --> 01:24:19,083
How Europe enjoyed our discomfiture.
1129
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,588
Instead ofjust letting it happen...
1130
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,343
...a few of us got together
to do something about it.
1131
01:24:28,636 --> 01:24:31,429
So there was a conspiracy.
1132
01:24:32,014 --> 01:24:36,643
- My dear chap, politics is a conspiracy.
- The point is, our paths converge.
1133
01:24:36,727 --> 01:24:39,395
- In what way?
- We both serve the state.
1134
01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:42,190
No, I defend the state.
1135
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:44,567
You subvert it.
1136
01:24:44,652 --> 01:24:47,737
All right, let's be frank with one another.
1137
01:24:48,364 --> 01:24:53,076
Illegal methods were used in an attempt
to bring down the Labour government.
1138
01:24:53,202 --> 01:24:55,495
But that's all in the past.
1139
01:24:55,621 --> 01:24:58,665
Do you think by scrutinizing
mistakes made...
1140
01:24:58,749 --> 01:25:02,043
...you'll help restore
respect for law and order?
1141
01:25:03,754 --> 01:25:06,673
Don't play hide and seek
with reality, Mr. Kerrigan.
1142
01:25:07,383 --> 01:25:11,010
If you want to see the release of that
tape, and its contents made public...
1143
01:25:11,303 --> 01:25:12,762
...go right ahead.
1144
01:25:12,847 --> 01:25:15,139
But first, consider the consequences.
1145
01:25:15,599 --> 01:25:18,309
Every agitator, every intellectual...
1146
01:25:18,394 --> 01:25:21,771
...every bleeding-heart liberal
with his rhetoric about civil rights...
1147
01:25:21,856 --> 01:25:23,606
...will seise on it.
1148
01:25:23,691 --> 01:25:26,276
Now, you say you defend the state.
1149
01:25:26,944 --> 01:25:27,986
So do I.
1150
01:25:28,612 --> 01:25:31,948
But Parliament and its institutions
are the state.
1151
01:25:32,116 --> 01:25:35,034
And anything that threatens
the government...
1152
01:25:35,369 --> 01:25:38,788
...the rule of law,
the credibility of Parliament...
1153
01:25:39,039 --> 01:25:41,332
...is a threat to the state.
1154
01:25:42,042 --> 01:25:44,460
Leave well alone, Mr. Kerrigan.
1155
01:25:44,587 --> 01:25:47,881
Let the historians discover it
in 50 years' time.
1156
01:25:49,258 --> 01:25:52,594
- Our duty is to protect Number 1 0.
- It wouldn't be published anyway.
1157
01:25:52,678 --> 01:25:55,513
Strictly speaking, it's none of your concern.
1158
01:25:55,598 --> 01:25:58,099
It's an intelligence matter,
outside your jurisdiction.
1159
01:25:58,183 --> 01:26:00,268
- I don't accept that.
- Accept this...
1160
01:26:00,352 --> 01:26:03,813
What Alec and the others did
eight years ago was terribly wrong.
1161
01:26:03,898 --> 01:26:07,150
It wasn't just terribly wrong.
It was criminal.
1162
01:26:07,234 --> 01:26:09,777
It was wrong for the right reasons.
1163
01:26:09,862 --> 01:26:13,239
These were, and still are, honorable men.
1164
01:26:13,324 --> 01:26:16,284
- They broke the law.
- We've agreed on that.
1165
01:26:16,785 --> 01:26:19,495
But tell me, as a professional policeman...
1166
01:26:19,580 --> 01:26:23,708
...don't you find that hardened criminals
often benefit from the restraints...
1167
01:26:23,792 --> 01:26:26,419
...imposed on the police by the courts?
1168
01:26:26,503 --> 01:26:27,837
Absolutely, yes.
1169
01:26:27,922 --> 01:26:32,717
And when, to secure a conviction,
the police remove those constraints...
1170
01:26:33,010 --> 01:26:36,346
...when, for example,
they illegally tap a phone...
1171
01:26:36,430 --> 01:26:41,017
...to apprehend political terrorists
whose aim is to overthrow democracy...
1172
01:26:42,102 --> 01:26:44,145
...is this ever justified?
1173
01:26:44,813 --> 01:26:46,814
It depends on the circumstances.
1174
01:26:47,274 --> 01:26:49,359
Let's be more specific.
1175
01:26:49,777 --> 01:26:52,904
In 1 974,
the IRA blew up a Birmingham pub.
1176
01:26:53,530 --> 01:26:57,283
21 young people were killed.
1 62 were injured.
1177
01:26:58,285 --> 01:27:02,747
The police, your colleagues,
arrested six Irishmen.
1178
01:27:03,999 --> 01:27:07,126
They were subjected to
what is euphemistically referred to...
1179
01:27:07,211 --> 01:27:09,003
...as "in-depth interrogation".
1180
01:27:09,421 --> 01:27:11,714
They kicked the hell out of
the murdering swine.
1181
01:27:11,799 --> 01:27:15,259
- And obtained a confession.
- Which held up in court.
1182
01:27:15,761 --> 01:27:17,595
Was that justified?
1183
01:27:17,846 --> 01:27:20,598
If they did that,
then they were out of order.
1184
01:27:20,683 --> 01:27:22,558
Tell that to the people of Birmingham.
1185
01:27:22,643 --> 01:27:24,477
The point I'm trying to make...
1186
01:27:24,561 --> 01:27:27,897
I understand the point
you're trying to make, Sir Robert.
1187
01:27:27,982 --> 01:27:31,776
That to maintain the system, the abuse
of power is sometimes necessary.
1188
01:27:31,902 --> 01:27:33,111
Yes.
1189
01:27:33,529 --> 01:27:37,532
It allows us to enjoy the freedom
of living in a free society.
1190
01:27:38,534 --> 01:27:41,369
A price the public are prepared to pay.
1191
01:27:41,954 --> 01:27:44,163
That's a dangerous concept.
1192
01:27:44,373 --> 01:27:46,332
But a realistic one.
1193
01:27:49,420 --> 01:27:51,671
You're forgetting one thing.
1194
01:27:51,755 --> 01:27:54,257
What's to stop Harris
from making copies of the tape?
1195
01:27:54,341 --> 01:27:59,053
Nothing at all, except without Harris,
there's no authenticity, no documentation.
1196
01:27:59,138 --> 01:28:02,181
Everyone would think it was an IRA fake.
1197
01:28:03,976 --> 01:28:05,643
And my investigation?
1198
01:28:06,603 --> 01:28:10,273
I have a solution
that is both effective and acceptable.
1199
01:28:10,691 --> 01:28:13,776
You have the culprits that did the shooting.
1200
01:28:14,445 --> 01:28:15,903
Nail them.
1201
01:28:24,580 --> 01:28:26,873
It really is a gorgeous day.
1202
01:28:27,666 --> 01:28:31,502
You know, Ireland would be a lovely place
if it wasn't for the Irish.
1203
01:28:35,632 --> 01:28:38,551
Was Ms. Jessner with you
when you met Harris?
1204
01:28:38,761 --> 01:28:39,844
Yes.
1205
01:28:40,429 --> 01:28:43,264
I wonder why Harris chose Paul Sullivan.
1206
01:28:45,893 --> 01:28:49,312
Did you know, before she met him,
she lived with a Communist?
1207
01:28:49,396 --> 01:28:52,065
- No, I didn't.
- It was all rather sad.
1208
01:28:52,191 --> 01:28:54,567
A Chilean. She had an abortion.
1209
01:28:57,571 --> 01:29:00,364
There is something I want to show you.
1210
01:29:05,621 --> 01:29:07,997
Not very pleasant, I'm afraid.
1211
01:29:13,712 --> 01:29:17,381
Liam Philbin.
Served seven years in H-Block.
1212
01:29:17,883 --> 01:29:20,384
Suspected of murdering two policemen.
1213
01:29:21,470 --> 01:29:24,639
That's you making a contribution
to IRA funds...
1214
01:29:24,723 --> 01:29:26,891
...unintentionally, of course.
1215
01:29:29,353 --> 01:29:31,604
These make my stomach turn.
1216
01:29:35,025 --> 01:29:38,569
Alec wanted to turn them over
to his newspaper friends.
1217
01:29:38,695 --> 01:29:40,780
I persuaded him not to.
1218
01:29:41,281 --> 01:29:44,325
Apart from the damage
it could do to your career...
1219
01:29:45,410 --> 01:29:48,162
I'm a family man myself, Mr. Kerrigan.
1220
01:29:48,872 --> 01:29:52,834
I know the harm this sort of thing
can do to a happy marriage.
1221
01:29:53,836 --> 01:29:55,294
Take them.
1222
01:29:55,796 --> 01:29:57,213
Who keeps the negatives?
1223
01:29:58,298 --> 01:30:00,049
Alec keeps them.
1224
01:30:03,387 --> 01:30:04,804
Fuck you.
1225
01:30:08,267 --> 01:30:10,768
First, they threw the book at me.
1226
01:30:11,145 --> 01:30:12,937
Not in the national interest.
1227
01:30:13,021 --> 01:30:14,689
Violation of security.
1228
01:30:15,107 --> 01:30:16,274
Then...
1229
01:30:18,318 --> 01:30:21,654
...this infantile, laughable comic-book stuff.
1230
01:30:24,074 --> 01:30:26,492
Don't underestimate it, Peter.
1231
01:30:28,162 --> 01:30:32,540
I've been a policeman for 26 years.
I've never met anything like this.
1232
01:30:36,128 --> 01:30:38,796
If you go to Dublin, see him, get the tape.
1233
01:30:38,881 --> 01:30:41,340
Neil would argue
it was used for intelligence...
1234
01:30:41,425 --> 01:30:45,178
...and that it couldn't be admitted
in court as evidence.
1235
01:30:46,722 --> 01:30:48,890
So what are we left with?
1236
01:30:48,974 --> 01:30:50,016
The shooting.
1237
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:52,226
Which is flameproof.
We have the statements...
1238
01:30:52,311 --> 01:30:54,520
Which we can make stick...
1239
01:30:55,230 --> 01:30:58,107
...provided we make
no references to the tape.
1240
01:30:58,192 --> 01:31:00,443
Concession offered by Neil.
1241
01:31:04,823 --> 01:31:06,115
Jesus.
1242
01:31:07,534 --> 01:31:09,535
What does that make me?
1243
01:31:11,705 --> 01:31:14,707
I came here as the cop
that couldn't be bought.
1244
01:31:14,791 --> 01:31:18,502
- Nobody bought you.
- I've been manipulated from day one...
1245
01:31:19,421 --> 01:31:21,505
...put through the hoop.
1246
01:31:27,721 --> 01:31:31,682
What happens
if I choose to take this to the limit...
1247
01:31:34,311 --> 01:31:36,312
...to the powers that be?
1248
01:31:37,564 --> 01:31:39,690
What support would I get?
1249
01:31:41,193 --> 01:31:42,652
Too risky.
1250
01:31:43,362 --> 01:31:46,530
You blow the whistle,
when the shouting stopped...
1251
01:31:46,615 --> 01:31:49,158
...they reach an accommodation...
1252
01:31:49,243 --> 01:31:50,993
...you're finished.
1253
01:31:52,871 --> 01:31:55,373
You know, Tom, I think I am naive.
1254
01:31:56,083 --> 01:31:57,041
I've always believed...
1255
01:31:57,125 --> 01:32:00,002
...that given half a chance,
the system would work.
1256
01:32:00,087 --> 01:32:02,838
Look, we've got the men
who did the shooting.
1257
01:32:02,923 --> 01:32:05,466
- Everything I've stood for...
- Our job's done.
1258
01:32:05,592 --> 01:32:06,717
No.
1259
01:32:07,761 --> 01:32:09,637
That's unacceptable.
1260
01:32:11,431 --> 01:32:14,767
I walk away from this,
it's a lifetime wasted.
1261
01:32:17,229 --> 01:32:18,562
They want this thing buried...
1262
01:32:18,647 --> 01:32:21,190
...and if necessary,
they will bury you alongside it.
1263
01:32:21,275 --> 01:32:24,402
- But there was a conspiracy.
- What proof have we got?
1264
01:32:24,486 --> 01:32:27,029
- Neil admitted it.
- He'll deny it.
1265
01:32:27,572 --> 01:32:30,408
That conversation never took place.
1266
01:32:33,787 --> 01:32:36,122
Turn your back on this, Peter.
1267
01:32:40,794 --> 01:32:43,713
What about Ingrid Jessner?
What about her?
1268
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:45,631
Not your problem.
1269
01:32:46,383 --> 01:32:50,136
This is all politics.
We have the men that did the shooting.
1270
01:32:50,220 --> 01:32:52,471
Are you willing to settle for that?
1271
01:32:52,556 --> 01:32:54,432
What else is there?
1272
01:32:55,142 --> 01:32:56,600
And if I persist?
1273
01:32:57,686 --> 01:33:00,354
Then you're on a hiding to nothing.
1274
01:33:01,815 --> 01:33:03,441
What about you?
1275
01:33:04,651 --> 01:33:07,278
- I'm a career policeman.
- So was I.
1276
01:33:11,867 --> 01:33:13,659
I'm sorry, Peter.
1277
01:33:13,952 --> 01:33:17,163
I'm not prepared to risk my future,
not in this.
1278
01:33:21,626 --> 01:33:23,127
Thanks, Tom.
1279
01:33:24,421 --> 01:33:26,672
You've just proved my point.
1280
01:34:28,652 --> 01:34:31,654
Listen, if a Mr. Kerrigan calls,
will you tell him I've left?
1281
01:34:31,738 --> 01:34:33,823
- Yes, certainly.
- Thanks.
1282
01:34:34,241 --> 01:34:36,992
Ms. Jessner? I'm Mr. Kerrigan's secretary.
1283
01:34:37,077 --> 01:34:39,412
He asked me to give you that.
1284
01:34:54,261 --> 01:34:55,761
Any message?
1285
01:34:56,304 --> 01:34:59,390
- When's his flight?
- Mid-afternoon, I expect.
1286
01:35:01,059 --> 01:35:02,393
Thanks.
1287
01:35:18,827 --> 01:35:20,703
Echo 1 to Control.
1288
01:35:21,079 --> 01:35:24,248
- Go ahead, Echo 1 .
- We're on the Dublin Road.
1289
01:35:25,709 --> 01:35:27,793
Are the others in place?
1290
01:35:29,171 --> 01:35:30,379
Yes.
1291
01:35:30,964 --> 01:35:32,923
Signing off now, Control.
1292
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,719
Give it another minute,
then overtake her quite quickly.
1293
01:35:36,803 --> 01:35:39,013
I want to get ahead of her.
1294
01:35:52,694 --> 01:35:54,278
Come in, Echo 2.
1295
01:35:54,654 --> 01:35:55,779
Echo 2.
1296
01:35:56,490 --> 01:36:00,910
- Is everything all right, Echo 2?
- Yes, she's about 200 yards in front of me.
1297
01:36:00,994 --> 01:36:03,954
In a little while you'll see
a petrol station on your left.
1298
01:36:04,039 --> 01:36:06,999
You pull in, and I'll take up the follow.
1299
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:58,008
Echo 2...
1300
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,344
...she's making for the bridge.
1301
01:37:00,470 --> 01:37:02,388
I'm having trouble gettin' through this lot.
1302
01:37:02,472 --> 01:37:03,931
Bang your fucking horn, man!
1303
01:37:28,373 --> 01:37:30,040
- Where's Kerrigan?
- I don't know.
1304
01:37:30,125 --> 01:37:32,710
- That's no answer.
- I know, I don't know where he is.
1305
01:37:32,794 --> 01:37:34,295
Let's walk.
1306
01:37:37,299 --> 01:37:40,301
- You'll see that it's published?
- I'll try.
1307
01:37:42,971 --> 01:37:44,763
Don't let me down.
1308
01:37:45,557 --> 01:37:46,932
Trust me.
1309
01:37:47,225 --> 01:37:48,267
I do.
1310
01:38:35,273 --> 01:38:36,899
Where to, love?
1311
01:38:38,652 --> 01:38:41,320
- I have to hire a car.
- You want a car-hire place?
1312
01:38:41,404 --> 01:38:43,739
- Yeah.
- Which one in particular do you want?
1313
01:38:43,823 --> 01:38:46,909
- Any one in particular?
- No. It doesn't matter. You decide.
1314
01:38:46,993 --> 01:38:50,496
Do you want an expensive car
or a cheap car?
1315
01:38:50,580 --> 01:38:52,081
It doesn't matter. I don't care.
1316
01:38:52,165 --> 01:38:55,459
Look, I've had Americans before.
I just want to know what type car...
1317
01:38:55,543 --> 01:38:56,627
Just go.
1318
01:38:57,337 --> 01:38:58,671
It doesn't matter! Just go!
1319
01:38:58,755 --> 01:39:01,465
Okay. There's a friend of mine
over at one place.
1320
01:39:01,549 --> 01:39:03,801
- Fine.
- I'll bring you there, will I?
1321
01:39:03,885 --> 01:39:05,010
Fine. Great.
1322
01:39:17,023 --> 01:39:19,692
What you will hear on this tape
is a conversation...
1323
01:39:19,776 --> 01:39:22,277
... which took place at the home
of Mr. Alec Nevin.
1324
01:39:22,362 --> 01:39:25,072
Its purpose was to establish
a Conservative government...
1325
01:39:25,156 --> 01:39:28,409
... with a right-wing leadership.
I had shown support...
1326
01:39:28,493 --> 01:39:30,953
... and therefore was invited
to attend the meeting.
1327
01:39:31,079 --> 01:39:34,164
I wore a recording device
activated by voice.
1328
01:39:36,251 --> 01:39:39,712
Letting people off the leash a bit,
in that direction...
1329
01:39:40,380 --> 01:39:44,091
... the military and our friends
in the intelligence community...
1330
01:39:44,175 --> 01:39:48,470
... is really enhancing the case
for quite dramatic...
1331
01:39:48,555 --> 01:39:51,724
... constitutional resolution of this crisis...
1332
01:39:51,808 --> 01:39:53,976
Indeed.
Don't underestimate the flexibility...
1333
01:39:54,060 --> 01:39:57,980
We need to pressure the Palace into
giving legitimacy to what we need to do.
1334
01:39:58,064 --> 01:40:00,774
Indeed. You underestimate,
we all underestimate...
1335
01:40:00,859 --> 01:40:05,320
... the flexibility of this constitution
of ours. We can do almost anything.
1336
01:40:05,655 --> 01:40:08,282
What are his weaknesses?
1337
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:11,243
What can we have circulated?
1338
01:40:12,370 --> 01:40:15,539
And what rumors can we make stick?
1339
01:40:15,874 --> 01:40:19,835
We all know about Heath.
We all know what we think about him.
1340
01:40:19,919 --> 01:40:23,839
We should look to 5 to...
1341
01:40:24,632 --> 01:40:26,091
... assist in this matter.
1342
01:40:27,093 --> 01:40:30,137
Can you try
Ms. Jessner's room again, please?
1343
01:40:34,350 --> 01:40:36,226
Have you paged her?
1344
01:40:38,104 --> 01:40:40,481
No. No message. Thanks.
1345
01:40:41,858 --> 01:40:44,735
- I don't suppose we'll be needing this?
- What's that?
1346
01:40:44,944 --> 01:40:48,363
It's the dossier you asked me to prepare
on those six names.
1347
01:40:48,448 --> 01:40:49,782
Thanks.
1348
01:40:51,367 --> 01:40:52,743
Insurance.
1349
01:40:53,203 --> 01:40:57,122
- Shall I take the luggage down now, sir?
- Please do.
1350
01:41:11,971 --> 01:41:13,847
It isn't your fault.
1351
01:41:16,518 --> 01:41:18,727
They must have followed her.
1352
01:41:20,396 --> 01:41:23,357
I'll pick up the rest of this stuff later.
1353
01:41:25,026 --> 01:41:28,153
- You know about Harris?
- I heard on the radio.
1354
01:41:28,780 --> 01:41:31,406
They kneecapped him,
then they blew half his head away.
1355
01:41:31,491 --> 01:41:33,242
Typical IRA execution.
1356
01:41:39,290 --> 01:41:41,375
- What about Ingrid Jessner?
- What about her?
1357
01:41:41,459 --> 01:41:43,544
- You know, if this thing leaks out...
- It won't.
1358
01:41:43,628 --> 01:41:45,504
A crime has been committed.
1359
01:41:46,506 --> 01:41:49,341
- What crime is that?
- I'm not just talkin' about Harris.
1360
01:41:49,425 --> 01:41:51,677
Everything is covered
by the Official Secrets Act.
1361
01:41:52,053 --> 01:41:56,640
- God, you people live in the Dark Ages.
- And what about you? Listen...
1362
01:41:57,016 --> 01:41:59,434
You and I are cut from the same cloth.
1363
01:41:59,519 --> 01:42:01,854
I am what I have to be, but you?
1364
01:42:02,146 --> 01:42:06,066
You're no better.
Like me, you observe rule Number 1 .
1365
01:42:06,150 --> 01:42:08,151
Keep your balls intact.
1366
01:42:08,903 --> 01:42:12,739
Have a good flight.
And don't forget to send me that report.
1367
01:42:12,991 --> 01:42:14,449
Okey-doke?
1368
01:42:16,369 --> 01:42:18,996
We need to get
some agent provocateurs into these...
1369
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,624
... strikes that are taking place,
local government strikes...
1370
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:24,960
... to cause a lot of
unpleasantness and disruption.
1371
01:42:25,044 --> 01:42:28,297
We need that to run through
until the election and give it a shot.
1372
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,717
The question is,
can we rely upon democracy?
1373
01:42:32,051 --> 01:42:34,970
- Just my opinion, but...
- With a little push here and there.
1374
01:42:35,054 --> 01:42:38,265
Well, I agree with the little push.
1375
01:42:38,349 --> 01:42:41,810
I agree that is the point, in a way,
why we're here, isn't it?
1376
01:42:41,895 --> 01:42:46,398
If there's a run on the pound, that's fine.
If there's a lot of stuff circulating about...
1377
01:42:46,482 --> 01:42:50,193
... Wilson and Moscow,
which we all know to be the case...
1378
01:42:50,278 --> 01:42:53,155
... I think Wilson's somebody
we should home in very much on.
1379
01:42:53,239 --> 01:42:55,866
A lot of stuff should be
circulated about Wilson.
1380
01:43:02,624 --> 01:43:04,166
Ms. Jessner.
1381
01:43:05,627 --> 01:43:07,544
She hasn't seen us.
1382
01:43:09,464 --> 01:43:10,923
Wait here.
1383
01:43:14,594 --> 01:43:15,594
What are you doing here?
1384
01:43:15,678 --> 01:43:17,220
- Where were you?
- Did you get my note?
1385
01:43:17,305 --> 01:43:19,640
- Why did you change your mind?
- There are reasons.
1386
01:43:19,724 --> 01:43:22,643
- Tell me.
- I don't have to. I'm sorry.
1387
01:43:24,395 --> 01:43:26,355
What about Mr. Nevin?
1388
01:43:26,564 --> 01:43:27,940
What about Harris?
1389
01:43:28,024 --> 01:43:29,691
Harris is dead.
1390
01:43:30,026 --> 01:43:31,735
They're blaming the IRA.
1391
01:43:31,819 --> 01:43:33,612
- But it was them!
- Please.
1392
01:43:33,696 --> 01:43:36,949
- I saw it happen!
- Please, keep your voice down.
1393
01:43:39,077 --> 01:43:41,453
- I told you not to go.
- You told me a lot of things...
1394
01:43:41,537 --> 01:43:43,956
- Did you speak to Harris?
- Yes.
1395
01:43:44,540 --> 01:43:47,793
- Did you tell them we were meeting?
- Of course not. You were followed!
1396
01:43:48,211 --> 01:43:50,754
But you did talk to them. Why?
1397
01:43:51,130 --> 01:43:53,715
- Did he give you the tape?
- You're not gonna...
1398
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,302
- Are you going to do anything about this?
- There's nothing I can do.
1399
01:43:57,387 --> 01:43:59,388
They've committed murder and treason.
1400
01:43:59,472 --> 01:44:01,974
At 1 1 :00 this morning,
a man was assassinated...
1401
01:44:02,058 --> 01:44:05,352
...by orders of British Intelligence,
and you can do nothing!
1402
01:44:05,478 --> 01:44:06,478
I wish I could.
1403
01:44:07,063 --> 01:44:11,358
This is a final call for flight BTH-9
to London, Heathrow.
1404
01:44:11,484 --> 01:44:13,110
You have connections I don't have.
1405
01:44:13,194 --> 01:44:15,988
Your reputation brought you here.
People will listen to you.
1406
01:44:16,072 --> 01:44:18,782
With you as my witness?
A civil-liberties group member...
1407
01:44:18,866 --> 01:44:21,910
...accusing the British government
of torture and shoot-to-kill?
1408
01:44:21,995 --> 01:44:26,832
"I don't care whose toes I tread on".
That's what you said, and I believed it.
1409
01:44:27,500 --> 01:44:30,210
- Look, I have to go.
- Go.
1410
01:44:30,294 --> 01:44:32,170
- I'm a policeman.
- Yes, you are.
1411
01:44:32,422 --> 01:44:34,923
The men responsible for Paul's death
will be charged.
1412
01:44:35,008 --> 01:44:36,591
To know and do nothing.
1413
01:44:36,676 --> 01:44:39,678
- You can't win against these people.
- To just close your eyes.
1414
01:44:39,762 --> 01:44:41,179
Forget it. Go home.
1415
01:44:41,264 --> 01:44:43,390
That's how fascism starts.
1416
01:44:44,434 --> 01:44:46,977
What do you think
of your fine British law now?
1417
01:44:47,061 --> 01:44:48,478
This has nothing to do with law.
1418
01:44:48,563 --> 01:44:51,106
- What is it then?
- It's politics.
1419
01:44:52,567 --> 01:44:55,777
To enforce the rules
of a police state is politics.
1420
01:44:55,862 --> 01:44:58,447
Good guys like you cover it up
so bad guys are safe.
1421
01:44:58,531 --> 01:45:01,324
You're a puppet,
and the men pulling the strings know it.
1422
01:45:02,285 --> 01:45:04,077
Did he give you the tape?
1423
01:45:04,537 --> 01:45:06,747
- No.
- What are you gonna do?
1424
01:45:08,374 --> 01:45:10,500
Tell people, newspapers.
1425
01:45:11,419 --> 01:45:13,420
- They won't print it.
- We'll see.
1426
01:45:16,674 --> 01:45:18,467
Go back to America.
1427
01:45:18,968 --> 01:45:21,928
Get out of Belfast. You're in danger here.
1428
01:45:24,348 --> 01:45:26,892
Ingrid, it's finished.
1429
01:45:28,561 --> 01:45:32,022
Not for them, it isn't.
Not for Nevin and the others.
1430
01:45:33,316 --> 01:45:36,902
They're not going to disappear.
They're still in place.
1431
01:45:42,617 --> 01:45:44,951
You have a plane to catch, Mr. Kerrigan.
1432
01:46:04,305 --> 01:46:06,056
What? Yes.
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