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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:04:21,625 --> 00:04:24,919 - And how did it happen? - Beat me up. 2 00:04:25,004 --> 00:04:29,549 They made me stand against the wall, like this with me arms outstretched... 3 00:04:29,675 --> 00:04:31,676 ...and my legs stretched out behind me. 4 00:04:33,595 --> 00:04:37,348 Kept me like this for ages, for over 30 hours or somethin' like that. 5 00:04:37,933 --> 00:04:41,144 And if 1 tried to relax or lower me arms, they hit me. 6 00:04:41,228 --> 00:04:43,604 And then they gave me the crab treatment. 7 00:04:43,981 --> 00:04:45,982 Were you arrested on Section 1 2? 8 00:04:46,066 --> 00:04:48,359 - Yeah. - Okay. Good. 9 00:04:48,986 --> 00:04:50,528 Do you have any idea why? 10 00:04:51,196 --> 00:04:55,575 Sort of like most of me mates were accused of belongin' to the 1RA. 11 00:04:56,326 --> 00:04:58,745 Which he wasn't. That's why they let him go. 12 00:04:58,871 --> 00:05:01,956 Could you demonstrate this crab treatment to us? 13 00:05:02,166 --> 00:05:03,249 Yeah. 14 00:05:18,057 --> 00:05:20,183 One of them grabbed me... 15 00:05:21,185 --> 00:05:23,519 ...you know, with me arms back here... 16 00:05:24,104 --> 00:05:26,689 ...while his mate punched me in the stomach. 17 00:05:26,774 --> 00:05:28,357 He just punched me and punched me. 18 00:05:28,442 --> 00:05:31,277 And the other one kept askin' me questions... 19 00:05:31,612 --> 00:05:34,572 ...askin' more questions, and they punched me again. 20 00:05:34,865 --> 00:05:35,865 Okay? 21 00:05:36,533 --> 00:05:38,951 - Are you all right? - Yeah. 22 00:05:39,203 --> 00:05:42,413 Jim, why don't you tell them what happened to you? 23 00:05:42,956 --> 00:05:46,751 1 was arrested the week before Michael and taken to Castlereagh. 24 00:05:47,127 --> 00:05:50,046 And then they threw me into a cell for about four hours. 25 00:05:50,297 --> 00:05:51,464 They took me out... 26 00:05:51,548 --> 00:05:54,050 ...brought me up to what they call an interview room. 27 00:05:54,134 --> 00:05:56,844 And two cops were sittin' there with me. 28 00:05:56,929 --> 00:05:59,889 One of the cops asked me my name. 1 never told him my name... 29 00:05:59,973 --> 00:06:03,392 ...'cause if they didn't know my name, they wouldn't have arrested me. 30 00:06:03,936 --> 00:06:08,940 At once, as soon as 1 told him, all four cops came rushin' in the room... 31 00:06:09,191 --> 00:06:12,068 ...took me off the chair, lifted me by the arms and legs... 32 00:06:12,152 --> 00:06:13,861 ...and held me over a table. 33 00:06:14,238 --> 00:06:16,405 And one of them put a towel round my face. 34 00:06:16,782 --> 00:06:19,575 He was holding it at the back of my neck here... 35 00:06:19,660 --> 00:06:23,454 ...and another one poured water over my nose and mouth. 36 00:06:23,539 --> 00:06:25,915 1t was goin' up my nose and into my throat... 37 00:06:25,999 --> 00:06:27,708 ...1 was gettin' the drowning feeling. 38 00:06:30,045 --> 00:06:31,087 Sullivan? 39 00:07:08,375 --> 00:07:10,084 Get the bastard! 40 00:07:33,609 --> 00:07:35,484 1 don't believe it. 41 00:07:36,028 --> 00:07:38,738 - Tribal rites. - 1t's frightening. 42 00:07:51,877 --> 00:07:55,504 Can 1 take you onto the question of the treatment of prisoners... 43 00:07:55,589 --> 00:07:59,342 ...the question of interrogation techniques referred to in the press release. 44 00:07:59,426 --> 00:08:03,804 1t suggests that these allegations of ill-treatment have reduced since 1 978. 45 00:08:03,889 --> 00:08:06,265 Can 1 ask you to comment? Do you have a view... 46 00:08:06,350 --> 00:08:10,353 ...as to whether these forms of ill-treatment that you found are fair? 47 00:08:10,437 --> 00:08:12,188 What evidence do you have for them? 48 00:08:12,522 --> 00:08:16,651 Not to be too dramatic, but these are all... 49 00:08:16,735 --> 00:08:21,197 ...statements of alleged maltreatment that we have collected over our time here. 50 00:08:21,281 --> 00:08:24,283 And that one? 51 00:08:24,618 --> 00:08:26,744 "Punching, slapping, kicking the plaintiff. 52 00:08:26,828 --> 00:08:27,828 "Causing, requiring, 53 00:08:27,913 --> 00:08:31,582 permitting the plaintiff to lie on the floor of an interview room. 54 00:08:31,667 --> 00:08:33,834 "Causing, requiring, permitting the plaintiff... 55 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:36,504 "...to remove his coat and shoes in the interview room. 56 00:08:36,588 --> 00:08:39,215 "Punching the plaintiff in the abdominal area. 57 00:08:39,299 --> 00:08:42,843 "Banging the plaintiff's head off the wall of the interview room. 58 00:08:42,970 --> 00:08:46,389 "Standing on the plaintiff's shoulders, stomach, ankles and chest. 59 00:08:46,473 --> 00:08:50,351 "Squeezing the plaintiff's neck. Squeezing the plaintiff's testicles. 60 00:08:50,435 --> 00:08:52,603 "Causing, requiring, permitting the plaintiff... 61 00:08:52,688 --> 00:08:56,315 - "...to be spreadled..." - Spread-eagled. 62 00:08:56,566 --> 00:09:00,444 "Between three members of the Royal Ulster Constabulary... 63 00:09:00,570 --> 00:09:05,324 "...while one kicked him with his heel in the area of the abdomen and raped..." 64 00:09:05,409 --> 00:09:07,576 Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 65 00:09:07,661 --> 00:09:09,537 These are unconfirmed allegations, right? 66 00:09:09,621 --> 00:09:11,914 Allegations for which there is no outside evidence. 67 00:09:11,999 --> 00:09:13,958 These are allegations from a group of people. 68 00:09:15,544 --> 00:09:17,878 A great deal of this evidence is corroborated. 69 00:09:18,005 --> 00:09:20,756 1s it a war situation or not? 70 00:09:20,841 --> 00:09:23,926 1f it's a war situation, to solve that war situation... 71 00:09:24,011 --> 00:09:28,472 ...you have to negotiate, and so to accept that there are two sides... 72 00:09:29,099 --> 00:09:32,226 ...putting around a table to negotiate... 73 00:09:32,436 --> 00:09:35,062 ...and that, the British government doesn't accept. 74 00:09:35,397 --> 00:09:37,773 Does your report deal with the shoot-to-kill policy... 75 00:09:37,858 --> 00:09:39,984 ...operatin' here in the six counties? 76 00:09:40,068 --> 00:09:44,238 Allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy carried out by the RUC... 77 00:09:44,531 --> 00:09:48,784 ...the UDR, and the British Army does form part of our report, yes. 78 00:09:48,869 --> 00:09:53,205 - Do you have any figures? - Yes, in... 79 00:09:54,124 --> 00:09:56,500 ...the period of 1 969 to 1 980... 80 00:09:56,585 --> 00:09:59,253 ...the evidence shows that at least 1 30 people... 81 00:09:59,338 --> 00:10:04,008 ...were killed by the security forces, and half of those deaths... 82 00:10:04,217 --> 00:10:07,428 ...were of civilians that had no connection... 83 00:10:07,512 --> 00:10:09,513 ...with paramilitary activities at all. 84 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:14,268 Given the fact that there is a state of armed insurrection in Northern 1reland... 85 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:17,146 ...do you not concede the government has every right... 86 00:10:17,230 --> 00:10:19,899 ...to take whatever measures it deems necessary to... 87 00:10:19,983 --> 00:10:21,692 ...stem this insurrection? 88 00:10:22,402 --> 00:10:26,989 Britain is recognised the world over as a democratic state. 89 00:10:27,574 --> 00:10:32,411 We will present our report based on the documented evidence. 90 00:10:33,121 --> 00:10:36,707 And hopefully, the British government will respond. 91 00:10:36,917 --> 00:10:38,626 1'm sure they will. 92 00:10:39,628 --> 00:10:41,670 Thank you. That's all we have time for. 93 00:10:41,755 --> 00:10:44,256 We're flying out tomorrow. Thank you. 94 00:10:51,223 --> 00:10:52,223 Hi. 95 00:10:52,307 --> 00:10:55,309 - I'm Teresa Doyle. Republican NeWs. - Excuse me? 96 00:10:55,394 --> 00:10:56,977 Republican News. 97 00:10:57,771 --> 00:10:59,397 You know the shoot-to-kill? 98 00:10:59,481 --> 00:11:02,650 1t happens all the time. 1 could show you a photograph. 99 00:11:02,734 --> 00:11:05,277 - Of what? - Of an execution. 100 00:11:05,362 --> 00:11:06,862 You have that with you? 101 00:11:06,947 --> 00:11:11,033 1t's not the sort of thing you carry around the streets of Belfast in your handbag. 102 00:11:11,118 --> 00:11:12,243 But 1 could get it to you. 103 00:11:13,245 --> 00:11:16,038 1'm sorry. Our investigation's concluded. 104 00:11:16,289 --> 00:11:20,209 - So you're not interested? - No, we're not here to be used. 105 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:23,254 Maybe that's all you're here for. 106 00:11:38,353 --> 00:11:39,603 Paul? 107 00:11:52,534 --> 00:11:55,369 - 1s that the tape from yesterday? - Yeah. 108 00:11:56,246 --> 00:11:58,164 1'm glad we're leaving tomorrow. 109 00:11:59,291 --> 00:12:01,167 Belfast reminds me of Chile. 110 00:12:01,918 --> 00:12:04,420 There's no comparison. How can you say that? 111 00:12:04,504 --> 00:12:05,921 That's the way it feels: 112 00:12:06,506 --> 00:12:09,133 Killings, torture, intrigue. 113 00:12:13,847 --> 00:12:17,933 A reality check: What happened in Chile can't happen here. 114 00:12:20,437 --> 00:12:22,521 - Let's eat. - Yeah. 115 00:12:26,485 --> 00:12:29,653 - You got any money? - Yes, 1 do. 116 00:12:29,863 --> 00:12:31,155 Good. 117 00:13:31,132 --> 00:13:34,802 So good night. See you tomorrow. Tough day. 118 00:13:38,557 --> 00:13:40,015 Good night. 119 00:13:46,940 --> 00:13:49,900 Can you believe he turned around and waved? 120 00:13:53,572 --> 00:13:57,032 - Do you know him? - 1 don't know. 1 thought 1 did. 121 00:13:59,619 --> 00:14:01,870 - No messages. - Okay, thanks. 122 00:15:14,027 --> 00:15:15,110 Yes. 123 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,695 Harris? 124 00:15:17,947 --> 00:15:22,076 - 1 listened to your tape. - Have you come to a decision? 125 00:15:23,036 --> 00:15:24,036 1 don't know. 126 00:15:24,371 --> 00:15:25,829 We must talk. 127 00:15:26,748 --> 00:15:28,499 They saw us together. 128 00:15:29,709 --> 00:15:33,128 - How do you know? - After 1 left you, 1 was followed. 129 00:15:33,338 --> 00:15:35,130 That means you're under surveillance. 130 00:15:35,882 --> 00:15:39,551 1 really don't think that this is something that 1 should get involved in... 131 00:15:39,636 --> 00:15:41,303 ...but 1'll tell you what 1 can do. 132 00:15:41,388 --> 00:15:44,139 I can turn the tape over to whatever authorities you deem... 133 00:15:44,224 --> 00:15:45,808 No! That would be crazy. 134 00:15:46,184 --> 00:15:47,810 We must meet. 135 00:15:48,812 --> 00:15:52,022 - Where? - Near Dungannon. Now. 136 00:15:52,565 --> 00:15:54,483 It's less than an hour's drive away. 137 00:15:54,567 --> 00:15:56,819 Look, I've got a plane to catch. 138 00:15:57,862 --> 00:15:59,321 This won't take long. 139 00:17:12,145 --> 00:17:13,771 Mr. Sullivan? 140 00:17:15,982 --> 00:17:18,650 - Where's Harris? - He's down the road, waiting on you. 141 00:17:18,735 --> 00:17:20,527 I am here to take you to him. 142 00:17:20,612 --> 00:17:23,781 You can leave your car here. We'll go in mine. 143 00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:26,241 - My car's okay here? - It's quite safe there. 144 00:17:26,326 --> 00:17:28,660 By the way, my name's Frank Molloy. 145 00:17:36,002 --> 00:17:38,378 - Did you bring the tape? - Yeah. 146 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,049 1 1 69. 147 00:17:43,384 --> 00:17:44,676 Sorry? 148 00:17:45,136 --> 00:17:49,264 800 years: That's how long we've been fightin' for independence. 149 00:17:49,849 --> 00:17:51,183 Sword... 150 00:17:51,601 --> 00:17:53,894 ...famine, burnin'... 151 00:17:54,187 --> 00:17:57,815 ...hangin', shootin', transportation: We've had it all. 152 00:18:00,902 --> 00:18:02,486 Who's Harris? 153 00:18:03,571 --> 00:18:06,114 It's better he tells you himself. 154 00:18:09,911 --> 00:18:11,995 There's a car behind us. 155 00:18:13,498 --> 00:18:14,915 Is it following us? 156 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:17,334 We'll soon find out. 157 00:18:18,211 --> 00:18:21,588 There's something wrong here. 158 00:18:21,923 --> 00:18:23,799 Get down! Get down! 159 00:19:32,285 --> 00:19:34,620 - Ms. Ingrid Jessner? - Yes. 160 00:19:34,996 --> 00:19:38,373 I'm afraid we've got some rather serious news for you. 161 00:19:38,458 --> 00:19:40,709 - May we come in? - What is it? 162 00:19:41,878 --> 00:19:43,962 It's about Mr. Sullivan. 163 00:19:44,297 --> 00:19:47,507 He's been involved in a rather serious incident. 164 00:19:49,385 --> 00:19:51,678 They were killed in a car crash early this morning... 165 00:19:51,763 --> 00:19:54,598 ... which involved a police checkpoint outside Dungannon. 166 00:19:54,807 --> 00:19:57,267 The men, who were driving a yellow Ford Cortina... 167 00:19:57,352 --> 00:19:59,102 ... were signaled by police to stop. 168 00:19:59,187 --> 00:20:03,440 Ignoring the warning, the car accelerated and drove directly at the officers. 169 00:20:03,524 --> 00:20:07,277 Police opened fire on the vehicle as it attempted to escape. 170 00:20:07,362 --> 00:20:10,572 The car then went out of control and careered off the road. 171 00:20:10,657 --> 00:20:14,493 Upon arrival at the crash scene, police found the occupants were dead. 172 00:20:14,577 --> 00:20:17,663 Names of the two men have not yet been released. 173 00:20:40,478 --> 00:20:43,855 Can you identify the body as that of Paul Sullivan? 174 00:21:06,045 --> 00:21:07,170 Yes. 175 00:21:29,527 --> 00:21:30,861 Ingrid. 176 00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:35,365 Come on. Let's go. 177 00:22:06,689 --> 00:22:09,066 Ms. Jessner, where have you just come from? 178 00:22:09,150 --> 00:22:10,942 Can you move away? 179 00:22:11,027 --> 00:22:14,321 It's said the man in the car with Mr. Sullivan was a terrorist suspect. 180 00:22:14,405 --> 00:22:15,363 Is that true? 181 00:22:15,448 --> 00:22:18,241 - What are you suggesting? - Who was with Mr. Sullivan? 182 00:22:18,326 --> 00:22:21,119 - I have no idea. - Police say he was a terrorist suspect. 183 00:22:21,245 --> 00:22:22,996 Did the car go through a police roadcheck? 184 00:22:23,081 --> 00:22:26,708 They say they opened fire after the car went through a checkpoint? 185 00:22:26,793 --> 00:22:29,044 Where were they going this morning? Did you know? 186 00:22:29,128 --> 00:22:33,799 As journalists, you must appreciate that I can't talk about this right now. 187 00:22:39,388 --> 00:22:41,890 The driver of the car in which the shooting occurred... 188 00:22:41,974 --> 00:22:45,477 ... has been named as Frank Molloy. Police said the car failed to stop... 189 00:22:45,561 --> 00:22:49,523 ... at a roadblock outside Dungannon around 6:1 5 this morning. 190 00:22:49,607 --> 00:22:52,234 An RUC statement said the driver accelerated... 191 00:22:52,318 --> 00:22:55,403 ... toward their officers, who opened fire on the fleeing car... 192 00:22:55,488 --> 00:22:57,322 ... causing it to swerve off the road. 193 00:22:57,406 --> 00:23:01,785 Also in the car was Paul Sullivan, an American lawyer and a leading figure... 194 00:23:01,869 --> 00:23:04,329 ... in the International League for Civil Liberties. 195 00:23:04,413 --> 00:23:05,831 What's puxxling observers... 196 00:23:05,915 --> 00:23:08,667 ... is why Mr. Sullivan should have driven out of Belfast... 197 00:23:08,751 --> 00:23:11,920 ... in the early hours of the morning to meet a man... 198 00:23:12,004 --> 00:23:14,673 ... who the police say is a terrorist suspect. 199 00:23:14,757 --> 00:23:17,968 This is Ivan Little, Ulster Television, Dungannon. 200 00:23:19,470 --> 00:23:21,096 With me in the studio to discuss... 201 00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:23,765 ... the political implications of today's shooting... 202 00:23:23,850 --> 00:23:25,308 ... is Mr. Alec Nevin... 203 00:23:25,768 --> 00:23:29,187 ... who is a Conservative Party spokesman on Northern Ireland. 204 00:23:29,272 --> 00:23:31,898 Mr. Nevin, earlier, we saw pictures of Americans... 205 00:23:31,983 --> 00:23:34,901 ... demonstrating outside the British embassy in Washington. 206 00:23:34,986 --> 00:23:38,572 Let's make a distinction. What we saw was a demonstration... 207 00:23:38,656 --> 00:23:40,532 ... by supporters of the IRA... 208 00:23:40,616 --> 00:23:41,783 Could I finish my question? 209 00:23:41,868 --> 00:23:43,952 The people who give comfort and weapons... 210 00:23:44,036 --> 00:23:45,412 ... to the men of violence. 211 00:23:45,538 --> 00:23:47,831 John Ware, Labour MP. 212 00:23:47,915 --> 00:23:50,417 A particularly embarrassing thing, I would think... 213 00:23:50,501 --> 00:23:55,380 ... was, of course, the death of this civil-liberties spokesman... 214 00:23:55,673 --> 00:23:58,466 It's quite clear that people will be asking the question: 215 00:23:58,551 --> 00:24:01,553 Does this mean the investigation has hit on a raw nerve... 216 00:24:01,637 --> 00:24:04,723 ... has revealed some of the things that have been perpetrated... 217 00:24:04,807 --> 00:24:07,934 ... by security forces due to their presence in Northern Ireland? 218 00:24:10,855 --> 00:24:13,023 Is Ms. Jessner coming down to talk to us today? 219 00:24:13,107 --> 00:24:15,483 - No. She's resting. - How is she? 220 00:24:15,568 --> 00:24:16,568 All right. 221 00:24:16,652 --> 00:24:18,862 Have you been told any more about what happened... 222 00:24:18,946 --> 00:24:21,531 ...on the morning of the shooting? 223 00:24:21,866 --> 00:24:25,785 The only thing that we know is that Mr. Sullivan has been murdered... 224 00:24:25,870 --> 00:24:28,413 ...by a member of the security forces... 225 00:24:28,497 --> 00:24:31,708 ...near Dungannon in a car, a rented car... 226 00:24:31,792 --> 00:24:34,169 ...with a man called Mr. Molloy. 227 00:24:34,295 --> 00:24:36,880 Did Mr. Sullivan have Republican sympathies? 228 00:24:36,964 --> 00:24:38,882 - No. - Was he a member of Noraid? 229 00:24:39,008 --> 00:24:41,885 - Not at all. - What kind of a man was he, Mr. Sullivan? 230 00:24:43,221 --> 00:24:48,183 The only thing I can say is he was a very good lawyer and a great fighter... 231 00:24:48,267 --> 00:24:51,436 ...for the civil rights all over the world and a marvelous friend. 232 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,147 The British government have just appointed... 233 00:24:54,232 --> 00:24:55,982 ...Deputy Chief Constable Kerrigan... 234 00:24:56,108 --> 00:24:58,610 ...to head up the investigation on the shooting. 235 00:24:58,694 --> 00:25:00,028 What's your reaction to that? 236 00:25:00,112 --> 00:25:04,699 I've heard that Kerrigan is a fine investigator of the CID... 237 00:25:04,825 --> 00:25:07,535 ...but we would have preferred that... 238 00:25:07,620 --> 00:25:11,539 ...it would have been an independent, international inquiry. 239 00:25:11,624 --> 00:25:13,875 So you don't have any confidence in the inquiry? 240 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,628 I've got a certain amount of skepticism about that. 241 00:25:17,129 --> 00:25:19,214 You said that you were skeptical. Why? 242 00:25:19,298 --> 00:25:21,841 Why will the Kerrigan inquiry not discover the truth? 243 00:25:21,926 --> 00:25:26,721 Because you had a lot of inquiries in the 1 3 past years... 244 00:25:26,806 --> 00:25:30,058 ... and it didn't change anything. 245 00:25:47,785 --> 00:25:50,912 Excuse me, sir. I'm Sgt. Hughes, your liaison for your stay. 246 00:25:50,997 --> 00:25:53,415 Hello. This is Chief Superintendent Maxwell. 247 00:25:53,499 --> 00:25:55,750 How do you do? The car's just outside the front. 248 00:25:55,835 --> 00:25:58,169 - Can I take your bag? - Thank you. 249 00:26:03,592 --> 00:26:06,052 - This Jessner woman... - Sullivan's girlfriend. 250 00:26:06,137 --> 00:26:10,473 What time is it now? 4:00. Late in the day. 251 00:26:11,309 --> 00:26:13,476 What about this Mrs. Molloy? 252 00:26:14,186 --> 00:26:17,230 She lives in Fort William. 253 00:26:18,274 --> 00:26:20,525 How far is it to Fort William, Sergeant? 254 00:26:20,609 --> 00:26:24,279 Fort William's just over here on the right, sir, about a mile away. 255 00:26:26,198 --> 00:26:28,950 It might be a good idea if you spoke to them both together. 256 00:26:29,035 --> 00:26:30,618 Let them feed off each other. 257 00:26:55,603 --> 00:26:57,103 Your ID, Sarge? 258 00:27:13,954 --> 00:27:15,789 Might as well leave the cases in the car. 259 00:27:15,873 --> 00:27:19,167 - We'll be going to the hotel after. - Sure they'll be safe here? 260 00:27:19,251 --> 00:27:20,752 I hope so, sir. 261 00:27:32,973 --> 00:27:34,516 Just in here, sir. 262 00:27:41,399 --> 00:27:44,442 - We're a bit pushed for space, sir. - Not bad. 263 00:27:45,152 --> 00:27:48,738 I want a large wall map of Northern Ireland and a blackboard. 264 00:27:48,823 --> 00:27:51,699 - Blackboard? - Those big black things you write on. 265 00:27:52,118 --> 00:27:53,535 Yes, sir. 266 00:27:53,744 --> 00:27:58,790 - I'll tell Mr. Brodie you're here, sir. - Thank you, Sergeant. That's kind of you. 267 00:28:05,464 --> 00:28:08,425 Hello. 268 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,972 - I've seen Jack Cunningham lately. - What's he doing nowadays? 269 00:28:14,056 --> 00:28:17,434 - He runs his own security business. - He must be rolling in it. 270 00:28:17,518 --> 00:28:19,185 He's earned it. 271 00:28:20,146 --> 00:28:22,439 Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Kerrigan. 272 00:28:22,523 --> 00:28:24,190 Chief Superintendent Maxwell. 273 00:28:24,275 --> 00:28:25,400 Sir. 274 00:28:25,484 --> 00:28:27,444 - Good flight? - Bit cramped. 275 00:28:27,528 --> 00:28:29,279 Yeah, always is. 276 00:28:29,780 --> 00:28:31,781 This is not what you're used to, I suppose. 277 00:28:31,866 --> 00:28:34,742 It's the best we can do for one of Britain's top policemen. 278 00:28:34,827 --> 00:28:36,202 It's perfectly adequate. 279 00:28:37,538 --> 00:28:40,165 - Anything else you need? - Thank you. I'll ask. 280 00:28:40,249 --> 00:28:42,750 Detective Sgt. Hughes will be your liaison officer. 281 00:28:42,835 --> 00:28:45,420 He will organise all your internal appointments. 282 00:28:45,504 --> 00:28:49,716 - Yes, secretarial staff... - She'll be arriving tomorrow. 283 00:28:49,884 --> 00:28:51,384 Excuse me. 284 00:28:53,596 --> 00:28:56,806 - Have you read the CID interim report? - Yes. 285 00:28:58,017 --> 00:29:00,101 Now, as I understand it... 286 00:29:00,186 --> 00:29:04,814 ...your terms of reference in the inquiry are to reexamine the evidence and... 287 00:29:04,899 --> 00:29:07,400 Or if necessary, reinvestigate the circumstances... 288 00:29:07,485 --> 00:29:10,487 ...which led to the shooting of Paul Sullivan and Frank Molloy. 289 00:29:10,988 --> 00:29:14,157 I'm sure that your expertise will be appreciated. 290 00:29:14,867 --> 00:29:18,119 However, I should warn you that you may encounter some prejudice. 291 00:29:18,704 --> 00:29:22,207 - From members of your force? - Possibly. But don't let that deter you. 292 00:29:22,291 --> 00:29:23,750 It won't. 293 00:29:24,668 --> 00:29:28,630 See, you have to bear in mind the situation here in Northern Ireland. 294 00:29:28,714 --> 00:29:31,341 We operate under enormous pressure. 295 00:29:31,967 --> 00:29:34,802 For the last 1 2 years, the Royal Ulster Constabulary... 296 00:29:34,887 --> 00:29:38,723 ...have fought to maintain the peace against the terrorists. 297 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:41,893 140 people have given their lives. 298 00:29:42,311 --> 00:29:43,811 3,500 have been injured. 299 00:29:44,271 --> 00:29:47,565 And 1 55 medals for outstanding feats of gallantry. 300 00:29:48,067 --> 00:29:50,318 Naturally, when outsiders from the mainland... 301 00:29:50,402 --> 00:29:54,030 ...come here to the province to tell us... - I do understand. 302 00:29:55,991 --> 00:29:59,619 But rest assured, no obstacle will be placed in your path. 303 00:29:59,703 --> 00:30:03,039 - You'll receive my full cooperation. - Thank you. 304 00:30:03,332 --> 00:30:06,876 About accommodation, we have a couple of safe houses where RUC personnel... 305 00:30:06,961 --> 00:30:11,798 I think it would be better if we were to stay in a small hotel somewhere. 306 00:30:12,299 --> 00:30:13,341 Can I ask why? 307 00:30:13,425 --> 00:30:16,511 I don't want to socialise with officers I might have to question. 308 00:30:16,595 --> 00:30:19,138 Best keep it on a strictly professional basis. 309 00:30:19,598 --> 00:30:22,725 - Could I just say one thing, so... - Also, I'll need a car... 310 00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:25,270 ...without a driver. 311 00:30:26,021 --> 00:30:28,356 You realise that I can't guarantee your safety? 312 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,440 Absolutely. 313 00:30:29,525 --> 00:30:32,527 Just let me say one thing, so there can be no misunderstanding. 314 00:30:32,695 --> 00:30:37,657 When you have completed your inquiry, you will deliver your report to me first. 315 00:30:39,034 --> 00:30:42,370 I understood it was to go to the DPP first. -No, it comes to me first. 316 00:30:42,454 --> 00:30:44,956 I will forward it to the Director of Public Prosecutions. 317 00:30:45,082 --> 00:30:47,834 That is the constitutional position. 318 00:30:48,127 --> 00:30:51,754 We might as well keep that on a professional basis, too. 319 00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:54,257 - Okay. - Thank you. 320 00:31:04,810 --> 00:31:06,311 Ingrid... 321 00:31:06,937 --> 00:31:10,898 Henri and I will stay with you for as long as you need us. 322 00:31:11,317 --> 00:31:13,192 - I'm okay. - You sure? 323 00:31:14,153 --> 00:31:17,780 I think you can do more back home than you can do here. 324 00:31:25,998 --> 00:31:27,290 Hello? 325 00:31:28,334 --> 00:31:31,377 No, it isn't Ingrid. Who is calling? 326 00:31:33,964 --> 00:31:35,923 Can you wait a second? 327 00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:38,635 It's Paul's mother. 328 00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:45,099 All right? 329 00:31:48,854 --> 00:31:50,104 Rose? 330 00:31:57,321 --> 00:31:59,155 How are you? Are you all right? 331 00:31:59,239 --> 00:32:01,616 Is there somebody there? Is somebody with you? 332 00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:03,660 That's good. 333 00:32:04,787 --> 00:32:08,831 I'm all right. I have some friends here, and it's... 334 00:32:48,539 --> 00:32:51,916 What's the crack on this Insp. Stephens of CID? 335 00:32:52,167 --> 00:32:55,378 Stephens? Decent enough man. 336 00:32:56,171 --> 00:32:57,964 Is he handling the shooting? 337 00:32:58,048 --> 00:33:01,509 Yes. If he was one of my detectives, he'd be back in uniform. 338 00:33:01,593 --> 00:33:02,593 Why? 339 00:33:02,678 --> 00:33:06,180 Three hours after the shooting, the RUC issued a statement. 340 00:33:06,432 --> 00:33:08,015 It was fabricated. 341 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,394 - Maybe they had a reason? - No resistance was offered. 342 00:33:11,478 --> 00:33:14,939 The weapon found in the car clearly didn't belong there. 343 00:33:15,107 --> 00:33:17,692 Forensic showed that the shot that killed the Yank... 344 00:33:17,776 --> 00:33:21,904 ...was fired at two meters. The trajectory was wrong. 345 00:33:22,948 --> 00:33:26,743 The officer that did the shooting claims he shot at 25 feet. 346 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:29,912 None of this was in the interim report. 347 00:33:30,456 --> 00:33:34,542 What if there were witnesses, and it comes out at the inquest? 348 00:33:34,626 --> 00:33:37,044 You know as well as I how long these things take. 349 00:33:37,129 --> 00:33:39,964 I know of two cases: One seven years ago, the other was five. 350 00:33:40,048 --> 00:33:43,259 - There's still no inquest in either of them. - This one's different. 351 00:33:43,343 --> 00:33:46,429 There's a lot of dead bodies in Northern Ireland, Peter. 352 00:33:46,805 --> 00:33:51,184 Jack, you haven't been followin' the news. Why the hell do you think I'm here? 353 00:33:51,393 --> 00:33:55,313 - A prominent American was involved. - Brodie was hoping you'd do a snow job. 354 00:33:55,397 --> 00:33:56,898 Not a chance. 355 00:33:56,982 --> 00:33:58,941 Next to the Pope, you're about to become... 356 00:33:59,026 --> 00:34:01,861 ...the most unpopular man in Northern Ireland. 357 00:34:01,945 --> 00:34:05,406 What you have to understand is Special Branch control the whole thing. 358 00:34:06,074 --> 00:34:07,575 Why do you think I got out? 359 00:34:08,202 --> 00:34:12,038 As soon as my time was up, I just grabbed my pension and ran. 360 00:34:13,749 --> 00:34:16,334 These three policemen involved in the shooting... 361 00:34:16,752 --> 00:34:19,754 - Cowboys, not policemen. - Tell me about them. 362 00:34:20,506 --> 00:34:24,133 Members of an antiterrorist squad, operating undercover. 363 00:34:24,218 --> 00:34:26,427 SSU, Special Support Unit... 364 00:34:26,887 --> 00:34:28,805 ...code-named Echo 4 Alpha. 365 00:34:28,889 --> 00:34:31,349 - Answerable to whom? - Don't ask. 366 00:34:31,767 --> 00:34:33,267 I have to know. 367 00:34:33,685 --> 00:34:36,229 I'm not saying we shouldn't use them against the IRA... 368 00:34:36,313 --> 00:34:41,150 ...but the fact is, they're out of control. They're off the wire, trigger-happy. 369 00:34:42,361 --> 00:34:44,195 They go where they want, do what they want. 370 00:34:44,279 --> 00:34:46,989 They shoot first, no questions asked. 371 00:34:47,866 --> 00:34:51,077 The other side don't play by the rules either. 372 00:34:51,203 --> 00:34:52,662 We're not the IRA. 373 00:34:53,539 --> 00:34:55,998 Goin' back to these three policemen... 374 00:34:56,083 --> 00:34:58,543 If they were involved, then it's a covert operation. 375 00:34:58,627 --> 00:35:01,379 - What about Special Branch? - They are Special Branch. 376 00:35:01,463 --> 00:35:05,049 - Sanctioned by them? - Or MI5 or Ml6. 377 00:35:05,843 --> 00:35:08,094 Take your pick. We all piss in the same pot. 378 00:35:11,890 --> 00:35:14,350 If the British public knew half of what goes on... 379 00:35:14,434 --> 00:35:17,520 ...in Northern Ireland, they wouldn't sleep in their beds. 380 00:35:17,604 --> 00:35:22,066 - I don't know what the answer is. - Good night, Jack. Thanks. 381 00:35:22,317 --> 00:35:23,943 Do yourself a favour, Peter. 382 00:35:24,027 --> 00:35:26,487 I know it goes against the grain, but toe the line. 383 00:35:26,572 --> 00:35:28,948 Give them what they want, and get back to England. 384 00:35:29,032 --> 00:35:31,701 - We'll see. - You're a pillock! 385 00:35:31,785 --> 00:35:33,035 Mind how you go. 386 00:35:33,161 --> 00:35:36,706 Nobody gives a shit what happens in Northern Ireland. 387 00:36:48,111 --> 00:36:51,530 - What's wrong? - I found this on the seat of my car. 388 00:36:52,491 --> 00:36:55,409 "The next bullet is for you if you don't get out of Ireland. 389 00:36:55,494 --> 00:36:57,244 "Our day will come". 390 00:36:58,246 --> 00:36:59,580 IRA? 391 00:37:03,627 --> 00:37:05,586 It's a 9-millimeter. 392 00:37:05,671 --> 00:37:07,505 Walther PPK pistol. 393 00:37:09,341 --> 00:37:12,760 That's a weapon favoured by the cowboys we talked about earlier. 394 00:37:13,887 --> 00:37:15,930 - Echo 4 Alpha? - Yeah. 395 00:37:18,016 --> 00:37:19,433 So where are you taking me? 396 00:37:20,978 --> 00:37:22,812 It's one of ours, Peter. 397 00:37:24,147 --> 00:37:25,815 Excuse me. Hi. 398 00:37:27,526 --> 00:37:29,276 Good afternoon, Ms. Jessner. 399 00:37:29,695 --> 00:37:31,362 - Any further news yet? - No, none. 400 00:37:31,446 --> 00:37:33,489 - What are your plans now? - I have none... 401 00:37:33,573 --> 00:37:36,659 ...and I don't want to say anything. Please, now, thank you. 402 00:37:36,952 --> 00:37:38,160 - Ms. Jessner. - Mr. Kerrigan. 403 00:37:38,245 --> 00:37:39,912 - Thank you for seeing me. - Of course. 404 00:37:39,997 --> 00:37:41,998 Did you get in touch with Mrs. Molloy? 405 00:37:42,082 --> 00:37:44,542 Yes. She's expecting us. 406 00:37:45,335 --> 00:37:47,628 How are your skills as a navigator? 407 00:38:07,399 --> 00:38:09,025 This is Paradox. 408 00:38:10,068 --> 00:38:12,028 Subjects leaving location. 409 00:38:12,654 --> 00:38:14,405 Tabs on now, please. 410 00:38:21,830 --> 00:38:24,331 Paul was murdered, Mr. Kerrigan. 411 00:38:24,916 --> 00:38:28,586 - Why would the police want to kill him? - I don't know, but they did. 412 00:38:29,254 --> 00:38:31,797 - What proof do you have? - None. 413 00:38:33,425 --> 00:38:35,926 But I do know what goes on here. 414 00:38:36,303 --> 00:38:40,306 Torture, paid informants, roadside executions, death squads. 415 00:38:47,022 --> 00:38:50,691 Mr. Kerrigan, when I was going through Paul's things... 416 00:38:50,776 --> 00:38:53,694 ...I found something I think might be important. 417 00:38:54,279 --> 00:38:55,988 It's an empty cassette box. 418 00:38:56,740 --> 00:38:59,950 Paul was meticulous, and I can't find that tape. 419 00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:02,870 - Did you ask about it? - I told the police. 420 00:39:02,954 --> 00:39:07,041 - And what did they say? - They would look into it and call me back. 421 00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:09,210 - And did they? - No. 422 00:39:10,462 --> 00:39:12,296 What was on the tape? 423 00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:16,050 I don't know, but he was listening to it the night before. 424 00:39:22,557 --> 00:39:24,058 This is it. 425 00:39:28,355 --> 00:39:32,525 I also found this list of names. 426 00:39:32,609 --> 00:39:34,777 - Is this his writing? - Yes. 427 00:39:41,618 --> 00:39:44,161 This is a pretty formidable group. 428 00:39:45,163 --> 00:39:48,249 Lord Randall, Alec Nevin, Sir Gerald Binning... 429 00:39:50,919 --> 00:39:52,378 Why did he write these six names? 430 00:39:52,462 --> 00:39:54,713 - I don't know. - Had he met them? 431 00:39:54,798 --> 00:39:56,799 No, not that I know of. 432 00:39:58,593 --> 00:40:00,511 Have you shown this to anyone else? 433 00:40:00,595 --> 00:40:03,722 No. Why, what do you think it is? 434 00:40:04,015 --> 00:40:05,933 What do you think? 435 00:40:07,018 --> 00:40:09,645 Could be people targeted, hit list. 436 00:40:11,898 --> 00:40:16,026 - I'm not saying it is, but... - Paul was not involved with terrorists. 437 00:40:16,111 --> 00:40:17,987 Perhaps innocently. 438 00:40:18,196 --> 00:40:21,532 - Maybe he was being used. - He was too smart to be manipulated. 439 00:40:21,616 --> 00:40:23,617 He was a good lawyer. He thought like one. 440 00:40:23,702 --> 00:40:25,661 Then why did he write down these six names? 441 00:40:25,745 --> 00:40:29,331 And why did he leave the hotel at 5:00 in the morning, leaving you? 442 00:40:29,958 --> 00:40:32,168 What was he doing driving around Dungannon... 443 00:40:32,252 --> 00:40:34,670 ...with a fringe member of the IRA? 444 00:40:35,964 --> 00:40:38,340 He must have been mixed up in something. 445 00:40:39,134 --> 00:40:41,760 Mrs. Molloy, is this Frank's father? 446 00:40:41,845 --> 00:40:44,388 - That's his father. - Who's that? 447 00:40:44,472 --> 00:40:49,393 Them's his friends, lifelong friends. Theyjust can't believe it either. 448 00:40:50,979 --> 00:40:55,858 Those were taken on holiday. It was the last holiday we had. 449 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,863 Have you a religion, Mr. Kerrigan? 450 00:41:01,948 --> 00:41:03,365 Catholic. 451 00:41:03,450 --> 00:41:07,119 In the heel of the hunt, we'll all be answerable to God. 452 00:41:07,412 --> 00:41:10,289 I curse the bloody day we ever came back here. 453 00:41:10,373 --> 00:41:11,874 Why did you? 454 00:41:12,209 --> 00:41:16,337 No choice. He was workin' for the Ministry of Defense in London. 455 00:41:16,671 --> 00:41:19,215 Some bright spark sent him on this course. 456 00:41:19,299 --> 00:41:21,508 Then he was transferred over here. 457 00:41:21,593 --> 00:41:23,844 What kind of work did he do? 458 00:41:24,262 --> 00:41:26,096 It came under the army... 459 00:41:26,348 --> 00:41:29,433 ...to do with education and publishing things. 460 00:41:30,435 --> 00:41:34,063 To tell you the truth, he never talked much about it... 461 00:41:34,231 --> 00:41:36,106 ...but he wasn't happy. 462 00:41:36,191 --> 00:41:38,067 That's why he left? 463 00:41:38,777 --> 00:41:42,404 Under a cloud. Said he couldn't stomach it anymore. 464 00:41:43,365 --> 00:41:45,574 Can I take a look at these? 465 00:41:47,786 --> 00:41:50,788 - Who's that? - That's Grace's weddin'. 466 00:41:51,581 --> 00:41:54,708 - It's your daughter? - That was a beautiful day. 467 00:41:54,793 --> 00:41:56,710 She looks wonderful. 468 00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:58,712 Mrs. Molloy... 469 00:42:00,966 --> 00:42:03,425 Did your husband ever mention Paul to you? 470 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:04,718 No. 471 00:42:05,887 --> 00:42:08,681 They must have known each other, though, don't you think? 472 00:42:08,765 --> 00:42:11,850 They must've. But I never heard Frank mention him. 473 00:42:12,185 --> 00:42:14,561 You were telling us earlier... 474 00:42:14,854 --> 00:42:17,273 ...that the house was searched. 475 00:42:17,565 --> 00:42:19,483 Yes. Two days after. 476 00:42:20,819 --> 00:42:23,195 Do you know who authorised it? Was it the police? 477 00:42:23,446 --> 00:42:25,698 The big knock authorised it. 478 00:42:26,032 --> 00:42:30,244 1 :00 in the mornin', you either open up, or your door goes in. 479 00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:32,871 Did they question you? 480 00:42:33,081 --> 00:42:35,541 Asked me if I knew Capt. Harris. 481 00:42:36,209 --> 00:42:37,167 Capt. Harris? 482 00:42:37,627 --> 00:42:41,297 Frank's old boss. Worked in a unit at Lisburn. 483 00:42:41,673 --> 00:42:44,758 - And what did you tell them? - Told them the truth. 484 00:42:44,843 --> 00:42:47,469 The last time I saw Capt. Harris... 485 00:42:47,971 --> 00:42:49,096 ...was at the weddin'. 486 00:42:49,514 --> 00:42:52,016 Did they find anything? 487 00:42:52,642 --> 00:42:55,978 They took away some papers and all his cassette tapes. 488 00:42:56,062 --> 00:42:58,063 - Tapes? - The lot. 489 00:42:58,815 --> 00:43:01,775 Capt. Harris, if he was at the wedding... 490 00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:04,445 ...he might be in one of these photographs. 491 00:43:04,529 --> 00:43:06,488 You've just been looking at it. 492 00:43:06,573 --> 00:43:10,576 - This one? - That's him, next to the groom. 493 00:43:13,038 --> 00:43:14,413 I know him. 494 00:43:14,622 --> 00:43:17,458 - You met him? - No, I know his face. 495 00:43:19,002 --> 00:43:21,712 He was talking to Paul at the Orange Parade. 496 00:43:22,756 --> 00:43:26,675 Here are the documents you asked for, sir. -Thank you, Chief. 497 00:43:39,022 --> 00:43:41,732 Could you initial there, Mr. Maxwell? 498 00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:53,786 And you'll have to sign the secured-documents book as well. 499 00:43:59,417 --> 00:44:02,669 And how did you get involved in civil liberties? 500 00:44:03,797 --> 00:44:05,339 I was in Chile. 501 00:44:05,632 --> 00:44:07,674 I was doing some research... 502 00:44:07,759 --> 00:44:10,427 ...for a TV documentary called The Disappeared. 503 00:44:10,970 --> 00:44:14,264 It was about the victims of Pinochet after the coup. 504 00:44:14,349 --> 00:44:18,519 - Paul was there working for the League. - When was that? 505 00:44:19,104 --> 00:44:20,562 1 975. 506 00:44:21,439 --> 00:44:24,566 There was a technical adviser working with us... 507 00:44:25,110 --> 00:44:27,569 ...a young Chilean journalist. 508 00:44:28,071 --> 00:44:31,532 He disappeared one day and I went to the League and Paul... 509 00:44:31,616 --> 00:44:34,910 ...to see if they could find out what happened to him. 510 00:44:37,288 --> 00:44:39,581 - And did they? - No. 511 00:44:42,127 --> 00:44:44,962 It was a year before we found out he'd been executed. 512 00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:47,589 What happened to the film? 513 00:44:47,799 --> 00:44:50,926 - Never got made. - Too controversial? 514 00:44:51,010 --> 00:44:52,302 Too honest, I think. 515 00:44:53,138 --> 00:44:56,181 It was about how Mr. Kissinger, the CIA, and the Pentagon... 516 00:44:56,266 --> 00:44:58,976 ...had made Chile safe for democracy. 517 00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:04,648 So I quit TV and joined the League. 518 00:45:05,275 --> 00:45:07,359 Got to know Paul better. 519 00:45:10,071 --> 00:45:12,448 How about you? You have a wife? 520 00:45:12,532 --> 00:45:13,740 Yes. 521 00:45:14,242 --> 00:45:15,826 - Kids? - Three. 522 00:45:16,578 --> 00:45:19,371 Two at university, one away at school. 523 00:45:19,539 --> 00:45:22,082 - See them much? - Not as often as I'd like. 524 00:45:22,167 --> 00:45:25,502 May I have your attention, please? Telephone call for Mr. Kerrigan. 525 00:45:25,587 --> 00:45:28,755 - Would a Mr. Kerrigan please... - Excuse me. 526 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,340 Thank you. 527 00:45:37,682 --> 00:45:38,849 Yes? 528 00:45:39,058 --> 00:45:42,352 It's Tom. I got that stuff on Harris, what there is of it. 529 00:45:42,437 --> 00:45:43,604 Go ahead. 530 00:45:43,688 --> 00:45:48,066 The first name's James John. Born Gateshead, 1 942. 531 00:45:48,359 --> 00:45:52,654 Religion, Protestant. Joined the army, 1 960, as a private soldier. 532 00:45:52,864 --> 00:45:55,407 Promoted to the rank of lieutenant in '64. 533 00:45:56,075 --> 00:45:58,827 Doesn't say which mob. 1 971 ... 534 00:45:59,162 --> 00:46:00,329 ...he attended a course... 535 00:46:00,413 --> 00:46:04,917 ...at the United States Army Special Warfare School at Fort Bragg. 536 00:46:05,168 --> 00:46:07,336 A year later, 1 972... 537 00:46:07,712 --> 00:46:12,341 ...he was seconded to the Psychological Warfare Unit... 538 00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:13,592 ...known as PSYOPS. 539 00:46:13,718 --> 00:46:16,094 - The same place Molloy went to. - Right. 540 00:46:16,179 --> 00:46:20,140 In 1 973, he was sent to Northern Ireland as a senior captain. 541 00:46:20,808 --> 00:46:25,729 That's it, apart from a list of postings at various regiments. 542 00:46:25,855 --> 00:46:27,898 - Nothing else? - Dead end. 543 00:46:28,066 --> 00:46:29,399 And since '73? 544 00:46:30,068 --> 00:46:32,402 - Classified. - They told you that? 545 00:46:32,487 --> 00:46:34,655 With great emphasis. The shutters came down. 546 00:46:41,913 --> 00:46:44,915 If there is a connection between Paul's death and Harris... 547 00:46:44,999 --> 00:46:46,708 There has to be. 548 00:46:47,001 --> 00:46:49,378 Then I need to know more about the background. 549 00:46:49,462 --> 00:46:51,713 Why not start with where he is? 550 00:46:51,798 --> 00:46:54,341 According to the colonel I spoke to in Lisburn... 551 00:46:54,425 --> 00:46:56,927 ...Harris is away on leave and can't be traced. 552 00:46:58,930 --> 00:47:01,181 There was a hint he may be suffering from stress. 553 00:47:01,266 --> 00:47:03,183 Do you believe that? 554 00:47:03,434 --> 00:47:04,601 No. 555 00:47:05,895 --> 00:47:07,145 Mr. Kerrigan... 556 00:47:07,939 --> 00:47:09,982 How far are you willing to go with this? 557 00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:11,942 If... 558 00:47:12,610 --> 00:47:14,653 ...and it's still a big if... 559 00:47:14,737 --> 00:47:18,490 ...but if Harris is, in any way, connected with this shooting... 560 00:47:19,075 --> 00:47:21,660 ...I don't care whose toes I tread on. 561 00:47:21,744 --> 00:47:26,081 He becomes part of the investigation, no more, no less. 562 00:47:27,959 --> 00:47:29,751 - Okay? - Okay. 563 00:47:31,254 --> 00:47:34,590 What it boils down to, Sergeant, is that you're in deep trouble. 564 00:47:34,966 --> 00:47:38,218 You're in a shit storm, and it's blowing around your ears. 565 00:47:38,303 --> 00:47:40,596 We're not just talking about disciplinary charges. 566 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,556 It goes beyond that. 567 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,267 You could be facing a murder charge. 568 00:47:45,602 --> 00:47:48,186 This man Sullivan was no run-of-the-mill Paddy... 569 00:47:48,271 --> 00:47:50,230 ...you could just blow away. 570 00:47:50,315 --> 00:47:53,066 He was an American lawyer with an international reputation. 571 00:47:53,151 --> 00:47:56,236 Now, there is no way this will be brushed under the carpet. 572 00:47:57,822 --> 00:47:59,531 How old are you? 573 00:48:00,366 --> 00:48:01,533 37. 574 00:48:02,410 --> 00:48:05,704 - How long have you been on the force? - Twelve years. 575 00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:14,546 Two years ago, you shot dead a Republican in the Falls. 576 00:48:14,631 --> 00:48:17,924 - It was either him or me, sir. - I'm not criticizing you, Sergeant. 577 00:48:18,009 --> 00:48:19,801 You should have been given a commendation. 578 00:48:19,886 --> 00:48:22,429 - I was. - I'm on your side. 579 00:48:24,682 --> 00:48:26,558 But if you go down for this... 580 00:48:27,352 --> 00:48:31,355 ...how long do you think you'd last in the Crumlin Road Prison? 581 00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:38,487 - You searched the bodies? - Yes, sir. 582 00:48:38,571 --> 00:48:41,114 - Took away all personal effects? - Yes, sir. 583 00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:43,492 Find anything interesting on Sullivan? 584 00:48:43,743 --> 00:48:48,497 Usual stuff: Wallet, money, ID card. 585 00:48:49,540 --> 00:48:52,000 What about the tape he was carrying? 586 00:48:54,629 --> 00:48:56,672 There was no tape, sir. 587 00:48:58,299 --> 00:49:00,634 - Are you getting all this? - Yes, sir. 588 00:49:00,718 --> 00:49:03,303 - Read out that last bit. - From where? 589 00:49:03,388 --> 00:49:05,013 From me asking about the tape. 590 00:49:05,556 --> 00:49:10,310 "What about the tape he was carrying?" "There was no tape, sir". 591 00:49:11,521 --> 00:49:13,563 Do you want me to leave it at that? 592 00:49:13,731 --> 00:49:17,317 It's up to you. You've already lied once in your statement to the CID. 593 00:49:17,443 --> 00:49:21,780 - I'm bound by the Official Secrets Act. - Not anymore, you're not. 594 00:49:22,907 --> 00:49:25,117 All constraints are lifted. 595 00:49:26,035 --> 00:49:29,246 You can wipe the slate clean and tell me everything that happened... 596 00:49:29,330 --> 00:49:32,666 ...and you might get off with a reprimand, or you bury yourself deeper. 597 00:49:33,459 --> 00:49:35,252 So what's it gonna be? 598 00:49:43,428 --> 00:49:45,220 After the shooting... 599 00:49:46,472 --> 00:49:49,683 ...we returned to the barracks for the debriefing. 600 00:49:52,019 --> 00:49:53,729 We were told... 601 00:49:54,605 --> 00:49:57,357 ...by a senior officer what to say. 602 00:49:58,776 --> 00:49:59,985 Name? 603 00:50:01,779 --> 00:50:03,405 Superintendent Fraser. 604 00:50:04,407 --> 00:50:06,616 He instructed you to lie to the CID? 605 00:50:06,743 --> 00:50:08,201 Yes, sir. 606 00:50:08,286 --> 00:50:11,288 He said it was to protect our source of information. 607 00:50:11,372 --> 00:50:13,373 Do you know what that source was? 608 00:50:13,458 --> 00:50:15,584 No, sir. We were only told to intercept. 609 00:50:16,627 --> 00:50:19,254 Were you ordered to shoot on sight? 610 00:50:20,465 --> 00:50:22,424 Not in so many words. 611 00:50:23,301 --> 00:50:24,593 What does that mean? 612 00:50:25,595 --> 00:50:29,639 We were told that the two men in the car were armed and dangerous... 613 00:50:29,724 --> 00:50:32,768 ...and we mustn't take any chances with them. 614 00:50:33,644 --> 00:50:35,896 How did you interpret that? 615 00:50:36,814 --> 00:50:39,733 I got the feeling that we were being given clear signals... 616 00:50:39,817 --> 00:50:43,820 ...to bring them back dead or alive, and there'd be no questions asked. 617 00:50:44,655 --> 00:50:46,948 Now, tell me about the tape. 618 00:50:48,785 --> 00:50:51,036 We took it from the American. 619 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,412 Go on. 620 00:50:53,331 --> 00:50:55,540 When we got back to the barracks... 621 00:50:56,167 --> 00:50:58,168 ...Mr. Fraser was there to meet us. 622 00:50:58,252 --> 00:51:00,378 And there was someone else along with him. 623 00:51:00,463 --> 00:51:03,673 - A police officer? - More like Special Branch. 624 00:51:04,008 --> 00:51:06,593 - What was his name? - I don't know. 625 00:51:06,677 --> 00:51:08,053 But he seemed to be in charge. 626 00:51:09,597 --> 00:51:11,515 Can you describe him? 627 00:51:12,016 --> 00:51:13,433 English... 628 00:51:14,352 --> 00:51:15,644 ...tall... 629 00:51:16,312 --> 00:51:18,021 ...thinning on top... 630 00:51:18,689 --> 00:51:20,273 ...age, about 40. 631 00:51:22,318 --> 00:51:24,069 So what happened? 632 00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:29,366 The first thing the tall man asked about was the tape. 633 00:51:30,743 --> 00:51:33,161 - Which he took with him? - Yes, sir. 634 00:51:33,704 --> 00:51:37,499 Have you any idea what was on the tape? -Not a clue, sir. 635 00:51:40,878 --> 00:51:42,170 Okay. 636 00:51:43,673 --> 00:51:47,259 We'll just run through it again. Then you can sign it. 637 00:51:51,597 --> 00:51:53,765 Do you have his statement? 638 00:51:57,728 --> 00:51:59,187 Here. Now. 639 00:51:59,897 --> 00:52:03,525 The senior officer that did the debriefing, Superintendent Fraser, yeah... 640 00:52:03,609 --> 00:52:05,944 ...I want to see him today. 641 00:52:06,070 --> 00:52:07,153 What do you think? 642 00:52:07,238 --> 00:52:09,906 I think it's time I had a word with Mr. Brodie... 643 00:52:09,991 --> 00:52:14,369 ...after I've interviewed Fraser. There's something else I want you to do. 644 00:52:14,704 --> 00:52:18,123 Before he left the hotel, Sullivan wrote a list of names. 645 00:52:18,207 --> 00:52:20,333 I want you to check them. 646 00:52:20,668 --> 00:52:24,546 The connection is obvious. Famous punters, what have you. 647 00:52:25,423 --> 00:52:27,841 I want something more specific. 648 00:52:28,384 --> 00:52:32,012 - Has Brodie seen this? - No. We'll keep it in the family. 649 00:52:38,603 --> 00:52:40,020 538, please. 650 00:52:43,566 --> 00:52:46,735 Here's your key, and there's a message for you as well. 651 00:54:11,153 --> 00:54:13,863 - Hiya. Come on in. - Thanks. 652 00:54:23,082 --> 00:54:24,249 Hey. 653 00:54:25,668 --> 00:54:27,544 - Kevin. - Here you are. 654 00:54:28,295 --> 00:54:29,671 Thanks. 655 00:54:29,922 --> 00:54:33,341 Look, I was really sorry to hear about Mr. Sullivan. 656 00:54:33,718 --> 00:54:35,093 Thanks. 657 00:54:38,222 --> 00:54:39,681 Do you smoke? 658 00:54:39,765 --> 00:54:43,226 - Here. - Yes. Thanks. 659 00:54:44,186 --> 00:54:46,855 - So is it just you and Kevin? - Yeah. 660 00:54:47,398 --> 00:54:50,108 His dad's doing 1 2 years in the Kesh. 661 00:54:51,569 --> 00:54:52,402 What for? 662 00:54:53,195 --> 00:54:56,031 Possession of arms and IRA membership. 663 00:54:56,365 --> 00:55:00,118 He was doing a punishment for the IRA on some local gangsters... 664 00:55:00,202 --> 00:55:04,748 ...who were robbin' their own community, and he got caught by the RUC. 665 00:55:05,374 --> 00:55:08,334 Just like him. He never did have much luck. 666 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,882 So you said in your note that you might have some information. 667 00:55:14,175 --> 00:55:16,468 I'm just delivering a message. 668 00:55:17,219 --> 00:55:20,555 Harris wants to meet you and the policeman Kerrigan. 669 00:55:21,390 --> 00:55:23,349 - When? - Tomorrow night. 670 00:55:24,935 --> 00:55:28,354 Look, after what's happened, can you trust Kerrigan? 671 00:55:29,231 --> 00:55:34,110 - Yeah, I trust him. I think he's different. - Anyway, Harris wants him there. 672 00:55:35,154 --> 00:55:38,782 You're to meet at a Republican club off Falls Road. I have the address. 673 00:55:39,575 --> 00:55:41,659 Will Kerrigan be safe in a Republican club? 674 00:55:41,744 --> 00:55:44,913 He'll be safe as long as you're with him. 675 00:55:45,498 --> 00:55:48,625 I'll get you that photograph I told you about. 676 00:55:50,878 --> 00:55:52,378 This is it. 677 00:55:54,173 --> 00:55:56,508 He's an officer in the SAS. 678 00:55:57,301 --> 00:55:59,928 He led a killer squad across the border. 679 00:56:00,012 --> 00:56:02,430 That's where this photograph was taken. 680 00:56:10,981 --> 00:56:13,900 Is there anything in Sgt. Kennedy's statement... 681 00:56:13,984 --> 00:56:16,736 ...you disagree with, Superintendent? 682 00:56:17,655 --> 00:56:19,030 No, sir. 683 00:56:19,323 --> 00:56:22,784 He says that you instructed him to lie to the CID... 684 00:56:23,369 --> 00:56:26,788 ...about the shooting of Paul Sullivan and Frank Molloy. Is this true? 685 00:56:28,374 --> 00:56:30,375 It was to protect our source of information. 686 00:56:30,459 --> 00:56:33,795 - Can you tell me what that source was? - That's classified information. 687 00:56:33,879 --> 00:56:37,132 - On whose orders? - On the orders of Mr. Brodie. 688 00:56:40,511 --> 00:56:44,264 When your men returned to the barracks, they were given a debriefing. 689 00:56:44,515 --> 00:56:47,016 Were they given a cover-up story? 690 00:56:48,018 --> 00:56:50,228 Certain evidence was withheld, yes. 691 00:56:50,312 --> 00:56:54,107 A dress rehearsal, so they could decide what to tell the CID? 692 00:56:55,609 --> 00:56:57,402 - Yes, sir. - By you? 693 00:56:58,571 --> 00:57:01,447 Yes, sir, but I was acting under orders. 694 00:57:04,410 --> 00:57:06,327 This Englishman... 695 00:57:08,038 --> 00:57:10,665 ...tall, thinning hair, about 40... 696 00:57:11,458 --> 00:57:13,793 ...who took the tape, who is he? 697 00:57:14,962 --> 00:57:17,547 - Don't know, sir. - Have you seen him before? 698 00:57:19,967 --> 00:57:22,093 Once, with Mr. Brodie. 699 00:57:22,428 --> 00:57:23,720 Where? 700 00:57:25,014 --> 00:57:27,015 Here, in this building. 701 00:57:27,683 --> 00:57:31,477 - Did he show you his authority? - No, sir. 702 00:57:32,688 --> 00:57:35,356 He just walked in and took the tape? 703 00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:39,027 I received a phone call from Mr. Brodie. 704 00:57:39,695 --> 00:57:41,279 He told you to give it to him? 705 00:57:42,781 --> 00:57:44,199 Yes, sir. 706 00:57:46,577 --> 00:57:49,078 - Would you mind if I smoke, sir? - Yes, I do. 707 00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:08,139 Go! 708 00:58:08,641 --> 00:58:09,891 Move! Move it! 709 00:58:10,226 --> 00:58:12,227 Get out of here! 710 00:58:13,312 --> 00:58:16,231 - Police! - Get out of my house! 711 00:58:17,942 --> 00:58:21,277 - There's nobody in there! Just get out! - Get inside, get in there. 712 00:58:21,362 --> 00:58:24,614 What do you want? My baby's in there. Don't let them go in there! 713 00:58:24,698 --> 00:58:27,075 I'm arresting you under the Emergency Provisions Act. 714 00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:30,036 - Get your clothes on now! - What are they doing? 715 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,579 My baby's in the other room. 716 00:58:31,664 --> 00:58:34,207 Okay, that's too bad. Get your clothes on! 717 00:58:34,291 --> 00:58:37,001 - No! What are you arresting me for? - Get your clothes on. 718 00:58:37,086 --> 00:58:40,338 - I'm arresting you under Section 1 1 ! - I haven't done anything! 719 00:58:40,422 --> 00:58:44,008 - We'll see about that! - Will you, now? I'm going nowhere! 720 00:58:44,093 --> 00:58:46,261 Tell him to get out of there! My baby's in there! 721 00:58:46,345 --> 00:58:49,305 - Get your clothes on now! - I'm putting no clothes on! 722 00:58:52,977 --> 00:58:55,311 Get off! 723 00:58:55,396 --> 00:58:57,772 - You bitch! - Get off! 724 00:59:00,609 --> 00:59:03,611 - Get off me! - Just calm down! 725 00:59:03,696 --> 00:59:05,738 I'm going nowhere until I've seen a solicitor! 726 00:59:05,823 --> 00:59:09,575 - Just calm down! Open the door, Sam. - What about my baby next door? 727 00:59:09,827 --> 00:59:12,161 Open that door. We're going downtown. 728 00:59:12,746 --> 00:59:15,081 - I'm going nowhere! - Hold her! 729 00:59:23,716 --> 00:59:26,968 - Has Brodie's office returned my call yet? - No. 730 00:59:28,012 --> 00:59:29,637 Try again now. 731 00:59:36,478 --> 00:59:38,187 Mr. Kerrigan's secretary. 732 00:59:38,272 --> 00:59:41,691 Did you set up that appointment with Mr. Brodie yet? 733 00:59:42,109 --> 00:59:45,320 Why not? I've been trying since 1 2:00 yesterday. 734 00:59:47,489 --> 00:59:49,699 Excuse me. He can't meet you today. 735 00:59:49,783 --> 00:59:52,994 - He has an official engagement. - Playing games. 736 00:59:54,121 --> 00:59:55,747 Find out when he's leaving. 737 00:59:57,041 --> 00:59:59,125 Is Mr. Brodie there now? 738 01:00:00,127 --> 01:00:02,879 What time's his appointment? Thank you. 739 01:00:03,547 --> 01:00:04,964 He's there until 2:30. 740 01:00:17,353 --> 01:00:20,605 Two statements: Fraser's and Sgt. Kennedy's. 741 01:00:20,689 --> 01:00:23,858 - I'd like to see them. - They'll be in my report. 742 01:00:24,026 --> 01:00:26,402 - And now you want to question me? - Interview you. 743 01:00:26,487 --> 01:00:29,364 - Make an appointment. - All right. When? 744 01:00:29,823 --> 01:00:33,034 - At my convenience. - Will you get off your fuckin' high horse? 745 01:00:33,660 --> 01:00:36,662 I don't ask your cooperation! I demand it! 746 01:00:38,624 --> 01:00:42,335 - What is it you want? - Everything, chapter and verse. 747 01:00:43,253 --> 01:00:45,421 - That might not be possible. - Why not? 748 01:00:45,714 --> 01:00:47,840 Give me your question, and please try to hurry. 749 01:00:47,925 --> 01:00:50,385 I've got another funeral to attend. 750 01:00:50,469 --> 01:00:54,555 Both Superintendent Fraser and Sgt. Kennedy admit there was a cover-up. 751 01:00:55,849 --> 01:00:58,851 - Fraser says you ordered it. - Classified. 752 01:00:58,936 --> 01:01:00,269 Then the buck stops here? 753 01:01:00,396 --> 01:01:03,022 - It's classified. - I can't accept that. 754 01:01:03,107 --> 01:01:05,983 Then put that in your report, too. Next question. 755 01:01:06,527 --> 01:01:07,819 - He says... - Who says? 756 01:01:07,903 --> 01:01:12,365 Fraser says it was in order to protect the source. 757 01:01:12,783 --> 01:01:15,660 - That's acceptable. - Not to me, it isn't. 758 01:01:15,744 --> 01:01:17,954 That's because you have been meddling in things... 759 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,291 Meddling? I am conducting an investigation, for Christ's Sake! 760 01:01:23,544 --> 01:01:25,795 Cover-up stories are used to protect informants... 761 01:01:25,879 --> 01:01:28,506 ...whose lives might be endangered. 762 01:01:28,757 --> 01:01:29,966 Look. 763 01:01:30,134 --> 01:01:34,095 The last thing I want to do is to probe into sensitive areas. 764 01:01:34,555 --> 01:01:36,973 But these civil-liberties people are organised. 765 01:01:37,057 --> 01:01:39,934 They're sending over a lawyer from the States for the inquest. 766 01:01:40,018 --> 01:01:41,018 So? 767 01:01:41,103 --> 01:01:43,688 They'll make mincemeat out of you. They'll ask questions. 768 01:01:43,772 --> 01:01:45,773 I've got a couple questions of my own. 769 01:01:46,316 --> 01:01:47,900 There was no roadblock. 770 01:01:47,985 --> 01:01:50,528 No witnesses were questioned, no resistance offered. 771 01:01:50,612 --> 01:01:52,780 The weapon found in the car had no fingerprints. 772 01:01:52,865 --> 01:01:55,032 Forensic showed the shot that killed Sullivan... 773 01:01:55,117 --> 01:01:59,412 ...was fired at a distance of two meters after the car had crashed. 774 01:01:59,538 --> 01:02:01,873 The officers involved were acting on the assumption... 775 01:02:01,957 --> 01:02:04,083 ...that both men were armed and dangerous. 776 01:02:04,168 --> 01:02:05,585 Prove it. 777 01:02:07,337 --> 01:02:10,882 What was Sullivan doing in Dungannon at 5:00 in the morning with Molloy? 778 01:02:10,966 --> 01:02:12,383 Was there a warrant out for them? 779 01:02:12,468 --> 01:02:14,802 - No, there wasn't. - Then you've no case. 780 01:02:14,887 --> 01:02:17,805 There's no law against two men deciding to go out for a drive. 781 01:02:17,890 --> 01:02:20,892 When that comes out in court, your cover story will be blown... 782 01:02:20,976 --> 01:02:24,145 ...because neither Kennedy nor Fraser are prepared to carry the can. 783 01:02:24,229 --> 01:02:26,814 - That's for the DPP to decide. - Will he have a choice? 784 01:02:26,899 --> 01:02:30,610 When that lawyer gets him at the inquest, he'll squeeze him like toothpaste. 785 01:02:30,694 --> 01:02:33,738 Do you think I give a shit about a smart-arsed American lawyer? 786 01:02:33,822 --> 01:02:35,698 I would, if I were you! 787 01:02:35,782 --> 01:02:40,411 Yes. The RUC do run covert operations, but so do the IRA! 788 01:02:40,621 --> 01:02:44,207 If you want to bring home the bacon, you first of all have to kill the pig. 789 01:02:45,334 --> 01:02:47,460 Now, if you will excuse me... 790 01:02:47,878 --> 01:02:50,796 ...three of our young men are being buried this morning. 791 01:02:50,881 --> 01:02:52,632 Blown up by a land mine. 792 01:02:55,594 --> 01:02:57,178 I have more questions. 793 01:02:57,262 --> 01:02:59,764 Two of them were married with young children. 794 01:02:59,848 --> 01:03:01,599 I want that tape. 795 01:03:03,644 --> 01:03:04,810 What tape? 796 01:03:04,937 --> 01:03:08,648 The tape they found on Sullivan's body and brought back to Gough Barracks. 797 01:03:09,399 --> 01:03:10,691 This Fraser again? 798 01:03:10,776 --> 01:03:12,735 And Kennedy. It's in both their statements. 799 01:03:12,819 --> 01:03:14,987 - I don't have the tape. - But you know who does. 800 01:03:15,072 --> 01:03:18,157 - Classified information. - "Classified" bullshit! 801 01:03:18,450 --> 01:03:22,620 What the fuck are you people runnin' here? Your own private shooting war? 802 01:03:22,704 --> 01:03:24,622 Checks and balances, Mr. Kerrigan. 803 01:03:24,706 --> 01:03:26,958 Between the jigs and the reels, we are winning. 804 01:03:27,042 --> 01:03:29,877 And innocent lives are being saved as a result! 805 01:03:30,712 --> 01:03:33,548 The source you wish to protect is Army Intelligence. 806 01:03:33,715 --> 01:03:35,091 Am I right? 807 01:03:38,053 --> 01:03:40,221 - What did you say? - I'll say it again quickly. 808 01:03:40,347 --> 01:03:42,348 Molloy and Sullivan were killed for that tape... 809 01:03:42,432 --> 01:03:45,977 ...and Army Intelligence, MI5, Ml6, call it what you want, are involved... 810 01:03:46,061 --> 01:03:49,105 ...and I want to know why, Mr. Brodie. 811 01:03:49,523 --> 01:03:51,983 - Then take it up with them. - You ordered it. 812 01:03:52,067 --> 01:03:54,986 My participation was limited to policing the operation. 813 01:03:55,070 --> 01:03:57,738 - That will sound wonderful in court. - What court? 814 01:03:57,864 --> 01:04:00,032 There will be accounting. Charges will be made. 815 01:04:00,117 --> 01:04:02,368 - By you? - I'll recommend it in my report. 816 01:04:02,494 --> 01:04:04,662 Which I shall take to the DPP for him to decide. 817 01:04:04,746 --> 01:04:06,038 - It won't work. - What won't? 818 01:04:06,123 --> 01:04:08,207 Not at my expense, it won't. 819 01:04:08,458 --> 01:04:12,753 My God, you're catchin' the Irish disease. You're gettin' paranoid. 820 01:04:13,046 --> 01:04:15,881 If necessary, I'm prepared to resign over this... 821 01:04:15,966 --> 01:04:18,759 ...and start telling tales out of school. 822 01:04:18,844 --> 01:04:22,555 I don't think you will. You're a career officer like me. 823 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,309 - I mean it. - You'd resign the force and go public? 824 01:04:26,393 --> 01:04:27,977 If I have to. 825 01:04:28,478 --> 01:04:32,315 Listen, we're both professionals. We observe certain rules. 826 01:04:32,524 --> 01:04:34,400 Then understand. 827 01:04:34,651 --> 01:04:36,319 Without access to that tape... 828 01:04:36,403 --> 01:04:39,530 ...it is impossible for me to evaluate the evidence. 829 01:04:39,615 --> 01:04:44,327 I'm afraid I can't help you there. I have neither seen nor heard that tape. 830 01:04:44,494 --> 01:04:48,623 And frankly, I don't want the burden. Now, if you will excuse me. 831 01:04:52,502 --> 01:04:54,086 Who's Harris? 832 01:04:55,672 --> 01:04:57,006 Harris? 833 01:04:57,507 --> 01:04:59,592 I've never heard of him. 834 01:05:04,264 --> 01:05:08,017 Ms. McKechnie, will you show Mr. Kerrigan out of my office, please? 835 01:05:23,241 --> 01:05:25,826 I wonder what Harris' connection with the Provos is? 836 01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:29,163 - Why do you think he has one? - Why else meet in an IRA club? 837 01:05:29,289 --> 01:05:31,374 - It's a Republican club. - Same difference. 838 01:05:31,458 --> 01:05:34,168 Not every Republican supports the IRA. 839 01:05:34,544 --> 01:05:37,838 Let's hope you're right. I could be putting my head in a noose. 840 01:05:37,923 --> 01:05:40,091 I don't think you have to worry. 841 01:05:40,217 --> 01:05:42,968 You can count on the IRA to be predictable. 842 01:05:43,053 --> 01:05:45,513 Yes. They shoot policemen. 843 01:06:04,408 --> 01:06:06,367 Did you lock the door? 844 01:06:30,225 --> 01:06:32,393 - Are you lookin' for someone? - Teresa Doyle. 845 01:06:32,477 --> 01:06:34,687 - You have to be signed in by a member. - Pardon? 846 01:06:34,771 --> 01:06:38,858 - You have to be signed in by a member. - That's why I'm waiting for her to come. 847 01:06:38,942 --> 01:06:43,529 It's okay, Danny. I know these people. I take full responsibility for them. 848 01:06:43,613 --> 01:06:45,948 Welcome to the James Connolly Republican Club. 849 01:06:46,032 --> 01:06:49,034 I'm Liam Philbin, Sinn Fein rep for this area and club secretary. 850 01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:50,327 Ingrid Jessner. 851 01:06:50,412 --> 01:06:51,871 Hello. Peter Kerrigan. 852 01:06:52,706 --> 01:06:54,832 - Got here okay, then? - Yeah, fine, thanks. 853 01:06:54,916 --> 01:06:57,877 Would you like to buy a football ticket? Football ticket. 854 01:06:58,211 --> 01:06:59,587 Never misses a trick. 855 01:06:59,671 --> 01:07:02,089 - Fifty pence. - Four. 856 01:07:02,883 --> 01:07:03,924 Thank you. 857 01:07:05,927 --> 01:07:09,638 Congratulations. You've just contributed to a fund for Republican prisoners. 858 01:07:09,723 --> 01:07:10,681 Thank you very much. 859 01:07:10,766 --> 01:07:12,933 - Here's a present. - Down to you. 860 01:07:13,018 --> 01:07:15,478 - Shall we go in? - Sure. Is Teresa here? 861 01:07:15,562 --> 01:07:18,355 - No, Teresa got lifted on Monday. - Lifted? What for? 862 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,983 Harassment. Happens all the time. 863 01:07:21,443 --> 01:07:22,818 - Is she all right? - She's okay. 864 01:07:22,903 --> 01:07:25,529 - And the baby? - They're being looked after. 865 01:07:25,614 --> 01:07:27,740 "In the Maidstone and the Maze 866 01:07:28,116 --> 01:07:31,911 "I thought about my land throughout these days 867 01:07:32,704 --> 01:07:35,289 "Why my country was divided 868 01:07:35,582 --> 01:07:37,958 "Why I was now in jail 869 01:07:38,251 --> 01:07:41,879 "Imprisoned without crime or without trial 870 01:07:43,256 --> 01:07:47,968 "And now I love my country I am not a bitter man 871 01:07:48,220 --> 01:07:52,223 "I've seen cruelty and injustice at first hand 872 01:07:54,059 --> 01:07:58,729 "And then one fateful mornin' I shook bold freedom's hand 873 01:07:59,105 --> 01:08:02,358 "For right or wrong, I tried to free my land 874 01:08:03,819 --> 01:08:08,739 "And you dare call me a terrorist while you look down your gun 875 01:08:08,949 --> 01:08:12,701 "When I think of all the deeds that you have done 876 01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:18,624 "You have plundered many nations, divided many lands 877 01:08:18,875 --> 01:08:23,671 "You have terrorised their people You've ruled with an iron hand 878 01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:27,758 "And you've brought this reign of terror to my land 879 01:08:29,302 --> 01:08:34,014 "And you dare call me a terrorist while you look down your gun 880 01:08:34,391 --> 01:08:38,269 "When I think of all the deeds that you have done 881 01:08:39,354 --> 01:08:44,024 "You have plundered many nations, divided many lands 882 01:08:44,192 --> 01:08:49,113 "You have terrorised their people You've ruled with an iron hand 883 01:08:49,406 --> 01:08:53,325 "And you've brought this reign of terror to my land 884 01:08:54,828 --> 01:08:59,707 "You've brought this reign of terror to my land" 885 01:09:01,042 --> 01:09:02,501 Thank you. 886 01:09:08,717 --> 01:09:11,302 Jimmy here's gonna do the next one. 887 01:09:14,055 --> 01:09:16,599 On the wall, you see a picture of James Connolly... 888 01:09:16,683 --> 01:09:18,601 ...one of our greatest-ever Irish leaders. 889 01:09:18,894 --> 01:09:22,646 Connolly said, many years ago, that England has no more moral right... 890 01:09:22,981 --> 01:09:24,648 ...to administer Irish affairs... 891 01:09:24,733 --> 01:09:27,735 ...than it has to administer the affairs of America or Japan. 892 01:09:28,069 --> 01:09:32,197 No more moral right to police us than it has a moral right to shoot us. 893 01:09:32,282 --> 01:09:34,283 That is the answer: British withdrawal. 894 01:09:34,409 --> 01:09:35,743 That's the answer... 895 01:09:36,578 --> 01:09:40,289 ...but innocent people have been killed. 896 01:09:40,373 --> 01:09:43,959 Yes, innocent people have been killed and are being killed. 897 01:09:44,085 --> 01:09:47,046 But if you look at all the colonies, for instance, America. 898 01:09:47,130 --> 01:09:49,590 George Washington was called a terrorist in his time. 899 01:09:49,674 --> 01:09:53,802 Jomo Kenyatta was a terrorist. Archbishop Makarios was a terrorist. 900 01:09:53,887 --> 01:09:57,514 Unfortunately, colonies appear to have to fight for their freedom. 901 01:09:57,641 --> 01:10:00,225 It is never granted willingly. They must struggle for it. 902 01:10:00,310 --> 01:10:01,644 Liam... 903 01:10:02,103 --> 01:10:04,855 Do you know why Paul was with Mr. Molloy that morning? 904 01:10:04,940 --> 01:10:08,400 Yes. Molloy was taking him to meet Harris, in fact. 905 01:10:08,485 --> 01:10:10,569 - Where? - At a safe house. 906 01:10:10,946 --> 01:10:12,029 That you provided? 907 01:10:12,113 --> 01:10:15,866 - Yes. Our interests coincided. - In what way? 908 01:10:16,910 --> 01:10:19,495 Let's just say that our enemies became his enemies. 909 01:10:19,871 --> 01:10:21,747 Where is he, Liam? 910 01:10:21,957 --> 01:10:26,085 He's out the back here, waitin' for you. If you like, we'll go now and see him. 911 01:10:26,169 --> 01:10:28,420 - Yes. - Good, then. Come on. 912 01:10:35,428 --> 01:10:37,554 "Gloucester's crumbling pushed us westward 913 01:10:37,639 --> 01:10:40,933 "To liberate all the Irish Some of us that came to fight 914 01:10:41,017 --> 01:10:43,435 "From Tipperary mountainside" 915 01:10:47,607 --> 01:10:49,024 Here's your visitors now. 916 01:10:50,068 --> 01:10:52,903 - Thank you, Liam. - Okay. I'll leave you to it. 917 01:10:52,988 --> 01:10:54,238 Thank you. 918 01:10:54,948 --> 01:10:57,074 - Harris? - Yes. 919 01:10:58,201 --> 01:11:01,787 - How much has Liam told you? - Only that Molloy brought you here... 920 01:11:01,913 --> 01:11:04,915 ...and that you were sheltered by the IRA. 921 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,419 - And you find that reprehensible? - For Molloy? No. 922 01:11:08,712 --> 01:11:10,504 No. He has his loyalties. 923 01:11:10,588 --> 01:11:14,717 But for you, an officer serving in the British Army, yes. 924 01:11:20,515 --> 01:11:23,308 I am terribly sorry about what happened. 925 01:11:23,393 --> 01:11:25,686 I really didn't think they'd go that far. 926 01:11:26,563 --> 01:11:28,897 Why did you want to see Paul? 927 01:11:29,190 --> 01:11:32,943 - I gave him a tape. Didn't you know that? - Not till later. 928 01:11:35,155 --> 01:11:36,822 Coming here could cost me my life. 929 01:11:36,906 --> 01:11:41,076 Mine, too, but unlike you, I don't have the IRA to protect me. 930 01:11:41,202 --> 01:11:43,412 I gave the IRA nothing. 931 01:12:00,555 --> 01:12:03,640 I was an Army Intelligence officer co-opted to work with Ml6... 932 01:12:03,725 --> 01:12:05,434 ...and MI5 when they took over. 933 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,935 PSYOPS. 934 01:12:07,395 --> 01:12:10,481 Our cover name was "Information Policy Unit". 935 01:12:10,982 --> 01:12:14,151 Our official function was to liaise with the press... 936 01:12:14,235 --> 01:12:17,279 ...and prepare public relations programs. 937 01:12:17,947 --> 01:12:19,573 And unofficial? 938 01:12:20,158 --> 01:12:21,992 We had our own printing press. 939 01:12:22,077 --> 01:12:25,662 We'd forge documents attributed to Republican sources. 940 01:12:25,955 --> 01:12:29,958 We'd provide material for the media: Newspapers, magazines, television. 941 01:12:30,043 --> 01:12:31,627 - Black propaganda? - Yes. 942 01:12:31,711 --> 01:12:33,712 What kind of material? 943 01:12:34,547 --> 01:12:37,007 Whatever we thought was necessary. 944 01:12:37,092 --> 01:12:40,427 We'd invent stories, leak truths, leak lies... 945 01:12:40,929 --> 01:12:42,137 ...leak half-truths. 946 01:12:42,597 --> 01:12:45,015 Accountable to the politicians. 947 01:12:46,810 --> 01:12:49,436 Let us get one thing straight, Kerrigan. 948 01:12:49,646 --> 01:12:51,814 We were accountable to no one. 949 01:12:51,898 --> 01:12:55,984 The Prime Minister, Parliament, the courts, the great British public... 950 01:12:56,069 --> 01:12:59,988 It made no difference. They were all there to be manipulated. 951 01:13:00,281 --> 01:13:04,243 - And that didn't bother you? - Not against the IRA, it didn't. 952 01:13:05,245 --> 01:13:08,288 But during the election of '74... 953 01:13:09,791 --> 01:13:12,584 ...our work became increasingly political. 954 01:13:12,669 --> 01:13:14,711 MI5 were running things. 955 01:13:14,796 --> 01:13:17,005 Our long-term objectives were abandoned. 956 01:13:17,173 --> 01:13:20,759 The new emphasis was on assassination teams, bounty hunters. 957 01:13:21,219 --> 01:13:23,804 But the PSYOPS unit continued to operate? 958 01:13:24,055 --> 01:13:26,515 Yes, but with fresh targets. 959 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,520 During the '70s, the Conservative Party was demoralised and divided. 960 01:13:31,604 --> 01:13:33,605 They saw their party leader, Edward Heath... 961 01:13:33,690 --> 01:13:37,067 ...cave in against the miners' strike of '74 and were searching for... 962 01:13:37,152 --> 01:13:39,820 ...a new leader from the hard right. 963 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,492 We circulated stories about his private life. 964 01:13:46,202 --> 01:13:47,286 Heath was dumped. 965 01:13:47,495 --> 01:13:49,663 And replaced by Thatcher. 966 01:13:49,831 --> 01:13:51,874 Yeah, but that wasn't enough. 967 01:13:51,958 --> 01:13:54,585 There was concern amongst business and the military... 968 01:13:54,669 --> 01:13:57,171 ...that Labour were heading for a third term in office. 969 01:13:57,255 --> 01:13:59,756 The moderates would be replaced by the left-wingers... 970 01:13:59,841 --> 01:14:03,343 ...who, in turn, would be opposed to NATO and nuclear weapons. 971 01:14:03,428 --> 01:14:07,764 Remember, inflation was running rife, industry was crippled by strikes. 972 01:14:08,016 --> 01:14:10,267 What is this leading up to? 973 01:14:10,351 --> 01:14:12,102 Treason, Mr. Kerrigan. 974 01:14:13,021 --> 01:14:16,356 Pressure came from the CIA to get rid of the Labour government. 975 01:14:16,441 --> 01:14:17,482 Jesus. 976 01:14:17,859 --> 01:14:21,069 They fed information to M1 5 that Prime Minister Wilson... 977 01:14:21,154 --> 01:14:23,155 ...was a KGB agent. 978 01:14:23,531 --> 01:14:26,325 It was a joint CIA-MI5 operation... 979 01:14:26,784 --> 01:14:28,827 ...supported by others in Whitehall. 980 01:14:29,287 --> 01:14:32,331 Yeah, the whole bag of dirty tricks was used: 981 01:14:33,249 --> 01:14:37,794 Smears, break-ins, burglaries, phone-tapping, blackmail, disinformation. 982 01:14:42,217 --> 01:14:45,510 - If what you say is true... - It all landed on my desk. 983 01:14:45,595 --> 01:14:48,680 - And you believed it? - I did when it was used by Alec Nevin... 984 01:14:49,224 --> 01:14:51,975 ...the future Prime Minister's closest political ally... 985 01:14:52,060 --> 01:14:55,729 ...the principal architect of her victory over Edward Heath. 986 01:14:55,813 --> 01:14:59,107 You're saying that Thatcher was involved in this? 987 01:15:01,486 --> 01:15:04,488 No, but she was the main beneficiary. 988 01:15:06,574 --> 01:15:11,036 The files and documents I got from MI5 I turned into articles and essays... 989 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,080 ...for selected journalists... 990 01:15:13,373 --> 01:15:15,457 ...and speeches for Alec Nevin. 991 01:15:17,877 --> 01:15:21,588 - Why should I believe you? - Because it's all on the tape. 992 01:15:22,257 --> 01:15:24,841 Why else do you think they tried to get rid of me? 993 01:15:24,968 --> 01:15:27,344 If this comes out, with Nevin's explicit connections... 994 01:15:27,428 --> 01:15:30,347 ...to the Prime Minister, the spotlight falls on Number 1 0. 995 01:15:30,431 --> 01:15:33,642 - That's why his name is on the list. - What list? 996 01:15:34,018 --> 01:15:36,395 Paul made a list of six names. 997 01:15:39,190 --> 01:15:42,025 - Do you have them with you? - I took them. 998 01:15:42,110 --> 01:15:44,778 Then I suggest you study that list very carefully. 999 01:15:44,862 --> 01:15:47,447 - Why? - Because they are the prime movers... 1000 01:15:47,991 --> 01:15:51,743 ...Nevin's ideological counterparts in business, industry, the military. 1001 01:15:51,828 --> 01:15:53,829 Together they form the nucleus. 1002 01:15:53,955 --> 01:15:56,039 Their priority was to wreck Labour's chances 1003 01:15:56,124 --> 01:15:57,791 of winning another general election... 1004 01:15:57,875 --> 01:16:00,460 ...and if necessary, were prepared to go even further. 1005 01:16:00,545 --> 01:16:03,046 You want wrapping up in a blanket. 1006 01:16:03,131 --> 01:16:06,717 Paul knew this. He heard the tape. He had the tape. 1007 01:16:06,801 --> 01:16:09,428 - That's why they murdered him. - I think you're insane. 1008 01:16:09,512 --> 01:16:10,554 I can prove it. 1009 01:16:10,638 --> 01:16:14,182 - Why would he lie? - I don't know: Guilt, pressure... 1010 01:16:16,144 --> 01:16:17,769 ...acute paranoia. 1011 01:16:17,854 --> 01:16:20,022 - I'm as sane as you are. - And I believe him. 1012 01:16:20,106 --> 01:16:22,065 It couldn't happen. 1013 01:16:22,150 --> 01:16:23,483 It did. 1014 01:16:35,538 --> 01:16:37,539 Why didn't you resign? 1015 01:16:41,502 --> 01:16:43,545 I was a career officer. 1016 01:16:44,756 --> 01:16:47,674 One hoped that the situation would change. 1017 01:16:48,843 --> 01:16:51,803 But I also saw what happened to people in a similar position. 1018 01:16:52,221 --> 01:16:53,972 Good men ruined. 1019 01:16:54,098 --> 01:16:55,724 So you went along with it? 1020 01:16:56,309 --> 01:16:57,476 No. 1021 01:16:58,061 --> 01:17:02,272 I asked questions about it. At first, they were very understanding. 1022 01:17:02,482 --> 01:17:06,276 They said I was suffering from stress, mental fatigue, physical exhaustion. 1023 01:17:06,361 --> 01:17:08,612 That I needed a break from Northern Ireland. 1024 01:17:08,738 --> 01:17:10,447 So they sent me to the mainland... 1025 01:17:10,531 --> 01:17:13,867 ...as an instructor to the School of Intelligence. 1026 01:17:16,662 --> 01:17:19,247 In late '77, I was posted back here. 1027 01:17:21,167 --> 01:17:25,087 - How did they find out about this tape? - Because I behaved stupidly. 1028 01:17:25,421 --> 01:17:28,465 Instead of keeping my head down, I had a row about it all. 1029 01:17:28,549 --> 01:17:31,051 Consequently, I was put under close surveillance. 1030 01:17:31,135 --> 01:17:33,804 Mail was opened, phones were tapped. 1031 01:17:33,888 --> 01:17:36,681 They searched my room and found a backup copy of the tape... 1032 01:17:36,766 --> 01:17:38,767 ...stitched in the lining of my beret. 1033 01:17:38,893 --> 01:17:41,645 So I took the original tape and ran. 1034 01:17:42,897 --> 01:17:44,231 Still running. 1035 01:17:46,067 --> 01:17:48,276 You say you have this tape? 1036 01:17:49,362 --> 01:17:54,199 It's all there: Names, dates. I bugged their meetings. 1037 01:17:54,409 --> 01:17:56,326 I wanted Sullivan to publicise it. 1038 01:17:56,411 --> 01:17:58,912 Being an American citizen and a civil rights lawyer... 1039 01:17:58,996 --> 01:18:00,497 ...I thought he was beyond reach. 1040 01:18:00,581 --> 01:18:02,207 You were wrong. 1041 01:18:04,585 --> 01:18:08,213 I'm afraid media exposure is the only protection I have. 1042 01:18:08,297 --> 01:18:09,840 Do you have it with you? 1043 01:18:12,301 --> 01:18:14,344 I have certain demands. 1044 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:15,720 What demands? 1045 01:18:15,805 --> 01:18:18,932 When I deliver the tape, I want to be taken into protective custody. 1046 01:18:19,016 --> 01:18:21,852 And I want you, Ms. Jessner, to make it public. 1047 01:18:21,936 --> 01:18:24,020 - Agreed. - I can't do that. 1048 01:18:24,105 --> 01:18:25,480 Why not? 1049 01:18:26,274 --> 01:18:30,235 Because he's not under my authority. He's military personnel. 1050 01:18:30,403 --> 01:18:34,197 You were brought here to investigate Paul Sullivan's death. 1051 01:18:34,282 --> 01:18:37,033 He was murdered because of that tape. 1052 01:18:39,162 --> 01:18:42,122 - Where is it? - Do I have your agreement? 1053 01:18:45,376 --> 01:18:46,585 Yes. 1054 01:18:50,089 --> 01:18:51,423 Dublin. 1055 01:18:51,799 --> 01:18:53,758 The IRA found me a safe house. 1056 01:18:53,843 --> 01:18:56,303 They're hoping I'll come to a prearranged meeting... 1057 01:18:56,387 --> 01:18:58,221 ...and denounce British imperialism. 1058 01:18:58,306 --> 01:19:00,765 - When can we have it? - You'll have to come to Dublin. 1059 01:19:00,850 --> 01:19:02,767 - When? - Day after tomorrow. 1060 01:19:02,852 --> 01:19:04,144 Where? 1061 01:19:06,147 --> 01:19:09,107 - O'Connell Bridge, 1 1 :00 a.m. - We'll be there. 1062 01:19:13,279 --> 01:19:14,905 One last thing. 1063 01:19:15,615 --> 01:19:17,365 Nevin has a man working for him. 1064 01:19:17,492 --> 01:19:20,702 His name is McKee, a former member of the SAS. 1065 01:19:21,829 --> 01:19:24,664 - Look out for him. - What's he look like? 1066 01:19:25,583 --> 01:19:28,752 Big man, tall, bland face, thinning hair. 1067 01:19:29,837 --> 01:19:32,797 He's quite ruthless, capable of anything. 1068 01:19:50,358 --> 01:19:53,902 Am I wrong, Mr. Kerrigan, or is it illegal to kill people... 1069 01:19:53,986 --> 01:19:55,570 ...and try to steal a country? 1070 01:19:55,655 --> 01:19:59,449 Don't assume it happened just because Harris said it did. 1071 01:19:59,784 --> 01:20:02,827 Paul's dead! Molloy's dead! That happened. 1072 01:20:02,954 --> 01:20:05,956 Save your outrage till we've heard the tape. 1073 01:20:10,628 --> 01:20:12,879 - Good evening, love. - Good evening, sir. 1074 01:20:12,964 --> 01:20:13,964 Thank you. 1075 01:20:14,507 --> 01:20:17,634 - Have you seen Mr. Maxwell? - He's in the bar, sir. 1076 01:20:27,311 --> 01:20:30,397 - How'd it go? - It was interesting. 1077 01:20:30,898 --> 01:20:32,315 Did you see Harris? 1078 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,526 Yes. He didn't have the tape. 1079 01:20:35,152 --> 01:20:37,362 You've had a call from MI5. 1080 01:20:37,613 --> 01:20:39,573 The spook department? 1081 01:20:40,449 --> 01:20:42,701 - Who? - Sir Robert Neil. 1082 01:20:42,910 --> 01:20:47,205 He wants to meet you for lunch tomorrow. He's sending his car at 1 2:00. 1083 01:20:50,334 --> 01:20:53,253 - Time for a drink? - No. I've had enough. 1084 01:20:54,088 --> 01:20:56,047 You two okay? 1085 01:20:57,133 --> 01:20:59,801 - Yes, thank you, Mr. Kerrigan. - Fine. 1086 01:21:00,886 --> 01:21:03,805 - Mind how you go. - See you in the morning. 1087 01:21:31,125 --> 01:21:34,127 - Good morning, Mr. Kerrigan. - Good morning. 1088 01:21:39,050 --> 01:21:40,717 - Come in, Mr. Kerrigan. - Sir Robert. 1089 01:21:40,801 --> 01:21:42,927 Marvelous day. This way. 1090 01:21:50,227 --> 01:21:51,561 Do you know Alec Nevin? 1091 01:21:52,438 --> 01:21:54,898 No, I don't believe we've met. 1092 01:21:54,982 --> 01:21:57,859 I'm delighted to meet you. I've heard a great deal about you. 1093 01:21:57,943 --> 01:21:59,569 How do you do? 1094 01:21:59,820 --> 01:22:02,822 - Sherry? - No, thank you. 1095 01:22:19,924 --> 01:22:22,467 You've got your coffee, have you? 1096 01:22:23,386 --> 01:22:27,931 So, Mr. Kerrigan, how has your inquiry progressed? 1097 01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:32,560 Sullivan and Molloy were killed because of a tape. 1098 01:22:32,645 --> 01:22:34,145 What tape? 1099 01:22:34,605 --> 01:22:36,064 According to a Capt. Harris... 1100 01:22:36,148 --> 01:22:38,149 - You've met him? - Last night. 1101 01:22:38,234 --> 01:22:39,651 Go on. 1102 01:22:40,903 --> 01:22:44,030 - Your name surfaced, Mr. Nevin. - Really? 1103 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,786 He claims that he possesses a tape which will prove that you and others... 1104 01:22:49,870 --> 01:22:53,456 ...conspired to destabilise the last Labour government. 1105 01:22:54,875 --> 01:22:57,711 He says he gave a copy of this tape to Paul Sullivan... 1106 01:22:57,795 --> 01:23:01,047 ...hoping he would publicise it, and that's why Sullivan was killed. 1107 01:23:01,424 --> 01:23:06,094 - You've not heard the tape then? - Not yet, but I will. 1108 01:23:06,721 --> 01:23:09,931 - You're seeing Harris again? - I can't tell you. 1109 01:23:11,475 --> 01:23:14,436 Although he was strictly Army, Harris worked for me. 1110 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,521 Yes, I know. 1111 01:23:18,399 --> 01:23:22,569 - He was rather good at what he did. - He was a traitorous bastard. 1112 01:23:22,737 --> 01:23:24,654 When I arrived just now... 1113 01:23:24,739 --> 01:23:28,575 ...there was a man who greeted me at the car: Tall, thinning hair. 1114 01:23:28,659 --> 01:23:31,536 - What about him? - I might want to question him. 1115 01:23:31,620 --> 01:23:34,330 After the tape was taken from Sullivan's body... 1116 01:23:34,415 --> 01:23:37,333 ...the police gave it to someone answering his description. 1117 01:23:37,418 --> 01:23:41,337 I have four witnesses to identify him. Did he give the tape to you? 1118 01:23:41,422 --> 01:23:44,841 - Are you interrogating me? - Are you obstructing me? 1119 01:23:47,178 --> 01:23:51,765 If you let me listen to that tape, I can eliminate Harris from my inquiry. 1120 01:23:52,683 --> 01:23:54,309 You have no choice, Alec. 1121 01:23:55,311 --> 01:23:58,563 Do you remember the disorders of the 1 970s... 1122 01:23:59,273 --> 01:24:00,690 ...Mr. Kerrigan? 1123 01:24:00,775 --> 01:24:02,984 The kind of chaos we faced... 1124 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,528 ...strikes, riots... 1125 01:24:06,322 --> 01:24:09,574 ...miners bringing down a Conservative government... 1126 01:24:09,658 --> 01:24:13,870 ...inflation going through the roof, our European creditors... 1127 01:24:13,954 --> 01:24:15,747 ...queuing up to pounce on us? 1128 01:24:16,165 --> 01:24:19,083 How Europe enjoyed our discomfiture. 1129 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,588 Instead ofjust letting it happen... 1130 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,343 ...a few of us got together to do something about it. 1131 01:24:28,636 --> 01:24:31,429 So there was a conspiracy. 1132 01:24:32,014 --> 01:24:36,643 - My dear chap, politics is a conspiracy. - The point is, our paths converge. 1133 01:24:36,727 --> 01:24:39,395 - In what way? - We both serve the state. 1134 01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:42,190 No, I defend the state. 1135 01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:44,567 You subvert it. 1136 01:24:44,652 --> 01:24:47,737 All right, let's be frank with one another. 1137 01:24:48,364 --> 01:24:53,076 Illegal methods were used in an attempt to bring down the Labour government. 1138 01:24:53,202 --> 01:24:55,495 But that's all in the past. 1139 01:24:55,621 --> 01:24:58,665 Do you think by scrutinizing mistakes made... 1140 01:24:58,749 --> 01:25:02,043 ...you'll help restore respect for law and order? 1141 01:25:03,754 --> 01:25:06,673 Don't play hide and seek with reality, Mr. Kerrigan. 1142 01:25:07,383 --> 01:25:11,010 If you want to see the release of that tape, and its contents made public... 1143 01:25:11,303 --> 01:25:12,762 ...go right ahead. 1144 01:25:12,847 --> 01:25:15,139 But first, consider the consequences. 1145 01:25:15,599 --> 01:25:18,309 Every agitator, every intellectual... 1146 01:25:18,394 --> 01:25:21,771 ...every bleeding-heart liberal with his rhetoric about civil rights... 1147 01:25:21,856 --> 01:25:23,606 ...will seise on it. 1148 01:25:23,691 --> 01:25:26,276 Now, you say you defend the state. 1149 01:25:26,944 --> 01:25:27,986 So do I. 1150 01:25:28,612 --> 01:25:31,948 But Parliament and its institutions are the state. 1151 01:25:32,116 --> 01:25:35,034 And anything that threatens the government... 1152 01:25:35,369 --> 01:25:38,788 ...the rule of law, the credibility of Parliament... 1153 01:25:39,039 --> 01:25:41,332 ...is a threat to the state. 1154 01:25:42,042 --> 01:25:44,460 Leave well alone, Mr. Kerrigan. 1155 01:25:44,587 --> 01:25:47,881 Let the historians discover it in 50 years' time. 1156 01:25:49,258 --> 01:25:52,594 - Our duty is to protect Number 1 0. - It wouldn't be published anyway. 1157 01:25:52,678 --> 01:25:55,513 Strictly speaking, it's none of your concern. 1158 01:25:55,598 --> 01:25:58,099 It's an intelligence matter, outside your jurisdiction. 1159 01:25:58,183 --> 01:26:00,268 - I don't accept that. - Accept this... 1160 01:26:00,352 --> 01:26:03,813 What Alec and the others did eight years ago was terribly wrong. 1161 01:26:03,898 --> 01:26:07,150 It wasn't just terribly wrong. It was criminal. 1162 01:26:07,234 --> 01:26:09,777 It was wrong for the right reasons. 1163 01:26:09,862 --> 01:26:13,239 These were, and still are, honorable men. 1164 01:26:13,324 --> 01:26:16,284 - They broke the law. - We've agreed on that. 1165 01:26:16,785 --> 01:26:19,495 But tell me, as a professional policeman... 1166 01:26:19,580 --> 01:26:23,708 ...don't you find that hardened criminals often benefit from the restraints... 1167 01:26:23,792 --> 01:26:26,419 ...imposed on the police by the courts? 1168 01:26:26,503 --> 01:26:27,837 Absolutely, yes. 1169 01:26:27,922 --> 01:26:32,717 And when, to secure a conviction, the police remove those constraints... 1170 01:26:33,010 --> 01:26:36,346 ...when, for example, they illegally tap a phone... 1171 01:26:36,430 --> 01:26:41,017 ...to apprehend political terrorists whose aim is to overthrow democracy... 1172 01:26:42,102 --> 01:26:44,145 ...is this ever justified? 1173 01:26:44,813 --> 01:26:46,814 It depends on the circumstances. 1174 01:26:47,274 --> 01:26:49,359 Let's be more specific. 1175 01:26:49,777 --> 01:26:52,904 In 1 974, the IRA blew up a Birmingham pub. 1176 01:26:53,530 --> 01:26:57,283 21 young people were killed. 1 62 were injured. 1177 01:26:58,285 --> 01:27:02,747 The police, your colleagues, arrested six Irishmen. 1178 01:27:03,999 --> 01:27:07,126 They were subjected to what is euphemistically referred to... 1179 01:27:07,211 --> 01:27:09,003 ...as "in-depth interrogation". 1180 01:27:09,421 --> 01:27:11,714 They kicked the hell out of the murdering swine. 1181 01:27:11,799 --> 01:27:15,259 - And obtained a confession. - Which held up in court. 1182 01:27:15,761 --> 01:27:17,595 Was that justified? 1183 01:27:17,846 --> 01:27:20,598 If they did that, then they were out of order. 1184 01:27:20,683 --> 01:27:22,558 Tell that to the people of Birmingham. 1185 01:27:22,643 --> 01:27:24,477 The point I'm trying to make... 1186 01:27:24,561 --> 01:27:27,897 I understand the point you're trying to make, Sir Robert. 1187 01:27:27,982 --> 01:27:31,776 That to maintain the system, the abuse of power is sometimes necessary. 1188 01:27:31,902 --> 01:27:33,111 Yes. 1189 01:27:33,529 --> 01:27:37,532 It allows us to enjoy the freedom of living in a free society. 1190 01:27:38,534 --> 01:27:41,369 A price the public are prepared to pay. 1191 01:27:41,954 --> 01:27:44,163 That's a dangerous concept. 1192 01:27:44,373 --> 01:27:46,332 But a realistic one. 1193 01:27:49,420 --> 01:27:51,671 You're forgetting one thing. 1194 01:27:51,755 --> 01:27:54,257 What's to stop Harris from making copies of the tape? 1195 01:27:54,341 --> 01:27:59,053 Nothing at all, except without Harris, there's no authenticity, no documentation. 1196 01:27:59,138 --> 01:28:02,181 Everyone would think it was an IRA fake. 1197 01:28:03,976 --> 01:28:05,643 And my investigation? 1198 01:28:06,603 --> 01:28:10,273 I have a solution that is both effective and acceptable. 1199 01:28:10,691 --> 01:28:13,776 You have the culprits that did the shooting. 1200 01:28:14,445 --> 01:28:15,903 Nail them. 1201 01:28:24,580 --> 01:28:26,873 It really is a gorgeous day. 1202 01:28:27,666 --> 01:28:31,502 You know, Ireland would be a lovely place if it wasn't for the Irish. 1203 01:28:35,632 --> 01:28:38,551 Was Ms. Jessner with you when you met Harris? 1204 01:28:38,761 --> 01:28:39,844 Yes. 1205 01:28:40,429 --> 01:28:43,264 I wonder why Harris chose Paul Sullivan. 1206 01:28:45,893 --> 01:28:49,312 Did you know, before she met him, she lived with a Communist? 1207 01:28:49,396 --> 01:28:52,065 - No, I didn't. - It was all rather sad. 1208 01:28:52,191 --> 01:28:54,567 A Chilean. She had an abortion. 1209 01:28:57,571 --> 01:29:00,364 There is something I want to show you. 1210 01:29:05,621 --> 01:29:07,997 Not very pleasant, I'm afraid. 1211 01:29:13,712 --> 01:29:17,381 Liam Philbin. Served seven years in H-Block. 1212 01:29:17,883 --> 01:29:20,384 Suspected of murdering two policemen. 1213 01:29:21,470 --> 01:29:24,639 That's you making a contribution to IRA funds... 1214 01:29:24,723 --> 01:29:26,891 ...unintentionally, of course. 1215 01:29:29,353 --> 01:29:31,604 These make my stomach turn. 1216 01:29:35,025 --> 01:29:38,569 Alec wanted to turn them over to his newspaper friends. 1217 01:29:38,695 --> 01:29:40,780 I persuaded him not to. 1218 01:29:41,281 --> 01:29:44,325 Apart from the damage it could do to your career... 1219 01:29:45,410 --> 01:29:48,162 I'm a family man myself, Mr. Kerrigan. 1220 01:29:48,872 --> 01:29:52,834 I know the harm this sort of thing can do to a happy marriage. 1221 01:29:53,836 --> 01:29:55,294 Take them. 1222 01:29:55,796 --> 01:29:57,213 Who keeps the negatives? 1223 01:29:58,298 --> 01:30:00,049 Alec keeps them. 1224 01:30:03,387 --> 01:30:04,804 Fuck you. 1225 01:30:08,267 --> 01:30:10,768 First, they threw the book at me. 1226 01:30:11,145 --> 01:30:12,937 Not in the national interest. 1227 01:30:13,021 --> 01:30:14,689 Violation of security. 1228 01:30:15,107 --> 01:30:16,274 Then... 1229 01:30:18,318 --> 01:30:21,654 ...this infantile, laughable comic-book stuff. 1230 01:30:24,074 --> 01:30:26,492 Don't underestimate it, Peter. 1231 01:30:28,162 --> 01:30:32,540 I've been a policeman for 26 years. I've never met anything like this. 1232 01:30:36,128 --> 01:30:38,796 If you go to Dublin, see him, get the tape. 1233 01:30:38,881 --> 01:30:41,340 Neil would argue it was used for intelligence... 1234 01:30:41,425 --> 01:30:45,178 ...and that it couldn't be admitted in court as evidence. 1235 01:30:46,722 --> 01:30:48,890 So what are we left with? 1236 01:30:48,974 --> 01:30:50,016 The shooting. 1237 01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:52,226 Which is flameproof. We have the statements... 1238 01:30:52,311 --> 01:30:54,520 Which we can make stick... 1239 01:30:55,230 --> 01:30:58,107 ...provided we make no references to the tape. 1240 01:30:58,192 --> 01:31:00,443 Concession offered by Neil. 1241 01:31:04,823 --> 01:31:06,115 Jesus. 1242 01:31:07,534 --> 01:31:09,535 What does that make me? 1243 01:31:11,705 --> 01:31:14,707 I came here as the cop that couldn't be bought. 1244 01:31:14,791 --> 01:31:18,502 - Nobody bought you. - I've been manipulated from day one... 1245 01:31:19,421 --> 01:31:21,505 ...put through the hoop. 1246 01:31:27,721 --> 01:31:31,682 What happens if I choose to take this to the limit... 1247 01:31:34,311 --> 01:31:36,312 ...to the powers that be? 1248 01:31:37,564 --> 01:31:39,690 What support would I get? 1249 01:31:41,193 --> 01:31:42,652 Too risky. 1250 01:31:43,362 --> 01:31:46,530 You blow the whistle, when the shouting stopped... 1251 01:31:46,615 --> 01:31:49,158 ...they reach an accommodation... 1252 01:31:49,243 --> 01:31:50,993 ...you're finished. 1253 01:31:52,871 --> 01:31:55,373 You know, Tom, I think I am naive. 1254 01:31:56,083 --> 01:31:57,041 I've always believed... 1255 01:31:57,125 --> 01:32:00,002 ...that given half a chance, the system would work. 1256 01:32:00,087 --> 01:32:02,838 Look, we've got the men who did the shooting. 1257 01:32:02,923 --> 01:32:05,466 - Everything I've stood for... - Our job's done. 1258 01:32:05,592 --> 01:32:06,717 No. 1259 01:32:07,761 --> 01:32:09,637 That's unacceptable. 1260 01:32:11,431 --> 01:32:14,767 I walk away from this, it's a lifetime wasted. 1261 01:32:17,229 --> 01:32:18,562 They want this thing buried... 1262 01:32:18,647 --> 01:32:21,190 ...and if necessary, they will bury you alongside it. 1263 01:32:21,275 --> 01:32:24,402 - But there was a conspiracy. - What proof have we got? 1264 01:32:24,486 --> 01:32:27,029 - Neil admitted it. - He'll deny it. 1265 01:32:27,572 --> 01:32:30,408 That conversation never took place. 1266 01:32:33,787 --> 01:32:36,122 Turn your back on this, Peter. 1267 01:32:40,794 --> 01:32:43,713 What about Ingrid Jessner? What about her? 1268 01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:45,631 Not your problem. 1269 01:32:46,383 --> 01:32:50,136 This is all politics. We have the men that did the shooting. 1270 01:32:50,220 --> 01:32:52,471 Are you willing to settle for that? 1271 01:32:52,556 --> 01:32:54,432 What else is there? 1272 01:32:55,142 --> 01:32:56,600 And if I persist? 1273 01:32:57,686 --> 01:33:00,354 Then you're on a hiding to nothing. 1274 01:33:01,815 --> 01:33:03,441 What about you? 1275 01:33:04,651 --> 01:33:07,278 - I'm a career policeman. - So was I. 1276 01:33:11,867 --> 01:33:13,659 I'm sorry, Peter. 1277 01:33:13,952 --> 01:33:17,163 I'm not prepared to risk my future, not in this. 1278 01:33:21,626 --> 01:33:23,127 Thanks, Tom. 1279 01:33:24,421 --> 01:33:26,672 You've just proved my point. 1280 01:34:28,652 --> 01:34:31,654 Listen, if a Mr. Kerrigan calls, will you tell him I've left? 1281 01:34:31,738 --> 01:34:33,823 - Yes, certainly. - Thanks. 1282 01:34:34,241 --> 01:34:36,992 Ms. Jessner? I'm Mr. Kerrigan's secretary. 1283 01:34:37,077 --> 01:34:39,412 He asked me to give you that. 1284 01:34:54,261 --> 01:34:55,761 Any message? 1285 01:34:56,304 --> 01:34:59,390 - When's his flight? - Mid-afternoon, I expect. 1286 01:35:01,059 --> 01:35:02,393 Thanks. 1287 01:35:18,827 --> 01:35:20,703 Echo 1 to Control. 1288 01:35:21,079 --> 01:35:24,248 - Go ahead, Echo 1 . - We're on the Dublin Road. 1289 01:35:25,709 --> 01:35:27,793 Are the others in place? 1290 01:35:29,171 --> 01:35:30,379 Yes. 1291 01:35:30,964 --> 01:35:32,923 Signing off now, Control. 1292 01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,719 Give it another minute, then overtake her quite quickly. 1293 01:35:36,803 --> 01:35:39,013 I want to get ahead of her. 1294 01:35:52,694 --> 01:35:54,278 Come in, Echo 2. 1295 01:35:54,654 --> 01:35:55,779 Echo 2. 1296 01:35:56,490 --> 01:36:00,910 - Is everything all right, Echo 2? - Yes, she's about 200 yards in front of me. 1297 01:36:00,994 --> 01:36:03,954 In a little while you'll see a petrol station on your left. 1298 01:36:04,039 --> 01:36:06,999 You pull in, and I'll take up the follow. 1299 01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:58,008 Echo 2... 1300 01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,344 ...she's making for the bridge. 1301 01:37:00,470 --> 01:37:02,388 I'm having trouble gettin' through this lot. 1302 01:37:02,472 --> 01:37:03,931 Bang your fucking horn, man! 1303 01:37:28,373 --> 01:37:30,040 - Where's Kerrigan? - I don't know. 1304 01:37:30,125 --> 01:37:32,710 - That's no answer. - I know, I don't know where he is. 1305 01:37:32,794 --> 01:37:34,295 Let's walk. 1306 01:37:37,299 --> 01:37:40,301 - You'll see that it's published? - I'll try. 1307 01:37:42,971 --> 01:37:44,763 Don't let me down. 1308 01:37:45,557 --> 01:37:46,932 Trust me. 1309 01:37:47,225 --> 01:37:48,267 I do. 1310 01:38:35,273 --> 01:38:36,899 Where to, love? 1311 01:38:38,652 --> 01:38:41,320 - I have to hire a car. - You want a car-hire place? 1312 01:38:41,404 --> 01:38:43,739 - Yeah. - Which one in particular do you want? 1313 01:38:43,823 --> 01:38:46,909 - Any one in particular? - No. It doesn't matter. You decide. 1314 01:38:46,993 --> 01:38:50,496 Do you want an expensive car or a cheap car? 1315 01:38:50,580 --> 01:38:52,081 It doesn't matter. I don't care. 1316 01:38:52,165 --> 01:38:55,459 Look, I've had Americans before. I just want to know what type car... 1317 01:38:55,543 --> 01:38:56,627 Just go. 1318 01:38:57,337 --> 01:38:58,671 It doesn't matter! Just go! 1319 01:38:58,755 --> 01:39:01,465 Okay. There's a friend of mine over at one place. 1320 01:39:01,549 --> 01:39:03,801 - Fine. - I'll bring you there, will I? 1321 01:39:03,885 --> 01:39:05,010 Fine. Great. 1322 01:39:17,023 --> 01:39:19,692 What you will hear on this tape is a conversation... 1323 01:39:19,776 --> 01:39:22,277 ... which took place at the home of Mr. Alec Nevin. 1324 01:39:22,362 --> 01:39:25,072 Its purpose was to establish a Conservative government... 1325 01:39:25,156 --> 01:39:28,409 ... with a right-wing leadership. I had shown support... 1326 01:39:28,493 --> 01:39:30,953 ... and therefore was invited to attend the meeting. 1327 01:39:31,079 --> 01:39:34,164 I wore a recording device activated by voice. 1328 01:39:36,251 --> 01:39:39,712 Letting people off the leash a bit, in that direction... 1329 01:39:40,380 --> 01:39:44,091 ... the military and our friends in the intelligence community... 1330 01:39:44,175 --> 01:39:48,470 ... is really enhancing the case for quite dramatic... 1331 01:39:48,555 --> 01:39:51,724 ... constitutional resolution of this crisis... 1332 01:39:51,808 --> 01:39:53,976 Indeed. Don't underestimate the flexibility... 1333 01:39:54,060 --> 01:39:57,980 We need to pressure the Palace into giving legitimacy to what we need to do. 1334 01:39:58,064 --> 01:40:00,774 Indeed. You underestimate, we all underestimate... 1335 01:40:00,859 --> 01:40:05,320 ... the flexibility of this constitution of ours. We can do almost anything. 1336 01:40:05,655 --> 01:40:08,282 What are his weaknesses? 1337 01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:11,243 What can we have circulated? 1338 01:40:12,370 --> 01:40:15,539 And what rumors can we make stick? 1339 01:40:15,874 --> 01:40:19,835 We all know about Heath. We all know what we think about him. 1340 01:40:19,919 --> 01:40:23,839 We should look to 5 to... 1341 01:40:24,632 --> 01:40:26,091 ... assist in this matter. 1342 01:40:27,093 --> 01:40:30,137 Can you try Ms. Jessner's room again, please? 1343 01:40:34,350 --> 01:40:36,226 Have you paged her? 1344 01:40:38,104 --> 01:40:40,481 No. No message. Thanks. 1345 01:40:41,858 --> 01:40:44,735 - I don't suppose we'll be needing this? - What's that? 1346 01:40:44,944 --> 01:40:48,363 It's the dossier you asked me to prepare on those six names. 1347 01:40:48,448 --> 01:40:49,782 Thanks. 1348 01:40:51,367 --> 01:40:52,743 Insurance. 1349 01:40:53,203 --> 01:40:57,122 - Shall I take the luggage down now, sir? - Please do. 1350 01:41:11,971 --> 01:41:13,847 It isn't your fault. 1351 01:41:16,518 --> 01:41:18,727 They must have followed her. 1352 01:41:20,396 --> 01:41:23,357 I'll pick up the rest of this stuff later. 1353 01:41:25,026 --> 01:41:28,153 - You know about Harris? - I heard on the radio. 1354 01:41:28,780 --> 01:41:31,406 They kneecapped him, then they blew half his head away. 1355 01:41:31,491 --> 01:41:33,242 Typical IRA execution. 1356 01:41:39,290 --> 01:41:41,375 - What about Ingrid Jessner? - What about her? 1357 01:41:41,459 --> 01:41:43,544 - You know, if this thing leaks out... - It won't. 1358 01:41:43,628 --> 01:41:45,504 A crime has been committed. 1359 01:41:46,506 --> 01:41:49,341 - What crime is that? - I'm not just talkin' about Harris. 1360 01:41:49,425 --> 01:41:51,677 Everything is covered by the Official Secrets Act. 1361 01:41:52,053 --> 01:41:56,640 - God, you people live in the Dark Ages. - And what about you? Listen... 1362 01:41:57,016 --> 01:41:59,434 You and I are cut from the same cloth. 1363 01:41:59,519 --> 01:42:01,854 I am what I have to be, but you? 1364 01:42:02,146 --> 01:42:06,066 You're no better. Like me, you observe rule Number 1 . 1365 01:42:06,150 --> 01:42:08,151 Keep your balls intact. 1366 01:42:08,903 --> 01:42:12,739 Have a good flight. And don't forget to send me that report. 1367 01:42:12,991 --> 01:42:14,449 Okey-doke? 1368 01:42:16,369 --> 01:42:18,996 We need to get some agent provocateurs into these... 1369 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,624 ... strikes that are taking place, local government strikes... 1370 01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:24,960 ... to cause a lot of unpleasantness and disruption. 1371 01:42:25,044 --> 01:42:28,297 We need that to run through until the election and give it a shot. 1372 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,717 The question is, can we rely upon democracy? 1373 01:42:32,051 --> 01:42:34,970 - Just my opinion, but... - With a little push here and there. 1374 01:42:35,054 --> 01:42:38,265 Well, I agree with the little push. 1375 01:42:38,349 --> 01:42:41,810 I agree that is the point, in a way, why we're here, isn't it? 1376 01:42:41,895 --> 01:42:46,398 If there's a run on the pound, that's fine. If there's a lot of stuff circulating about... 1377 01:42:46,482 --> 01:42:50,193 ... Wilson and Moscow, which we all know to be the case... 1378 01:42:50,278 --> 01:42:53,155 ... I think Wilson's somebody we should home in very much on. 1379 01:42:53,239 --> 01:42:55,866 A lot of stuff should be circulated about Wilson. 1380 01:43:02,624 --> 01:43:04,166 Ms. Jessner. 1381 01:43:05,627 --> 01:43:07,544 She hasn't seen us. 1382 01:43:09,464 --> 01:43:10,923 Wait here. 1383 01:43:14,594 --> 01:43:15,594 What are you doing here? 1384 01:43:15,678 --> 01:43:17,220 - Where were you? - Did you get my note? 1385 01:43:17,305 --> 01:43:19,640 - Why did you change your mind? - There are reasons. 1386 01:43:19,724 --> 01:43:22,643 - Tell me. - I don't have to. I'm sorry. 1387 01:43:24,395 --> 01:43:26,355 What about Mr. Nevin? 1388 01:43:26,564 --> 01:43:27,940 What about Harris? 1389 01:43:28,024 --> 01:43:29,691 Harris is dead. 1390 01:43:30,026 --> 01:43:31,735 They're blaming the IRA. 1391 01:43:31,819 --> 01:43:33,612 - But it was them! - Please. 1392 01:43:33,696 --> 01:43:36,949 - I saw it happen! - Please, keep your voice down. 1393 01:43:39,077 --> 01:43:41,453 - I told you not to go. - You told me a lot of things... 1394 01:43:41,537 --> 01:43:43,956 - Did you speak to Harris? - Yes. 1395 01:43:44,540 --> 01:43:47,793 - Did you tell them we were meeting? - Of course not. You were followed! 1396 01:43:48,211 --> 01:43:50,754 But you did talk to them. Why? 1397 01:43:51,130 --> 01:43:53,715 - Did he give you the tape? - You're not gonna... 1398 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,302 - Are you going to do anything about this? - There's nothing I can do. 1399 01:43:57,387 --> 01:43:59,388 They've committed murder and treason. 1400 01:43:59,472 --> 01:44:01,974 At 1 1 :00 this morning, a man was assassinated... 1401 01:44:02,058 --> 01:44:05,352 ...by orders of British Intelligence, and you can do nothing! 1402 01:44:05,478 --> 01:44:06,478 I wish I could. 1403 01:44:07,063 --> 01:44:11,358 This is a final call for flight BTH-9 to London, Heathrow. 1404 01:44:11,484 --> 01:44:13,110 You have connections I don't have. 1405 01:44:13,194 --> 01:44:15,988 Your reputation brought you here. People will listen to you. 1406 01:44:16,072 --> 01:44:18,782 With you as my witness? A civil-liberties group member... 1407 01:44:18,866 --> 01:44:21,910 ...accusing the British government of torture and shoot-to-kill? 1408 01:44:21,995 --> 01:44:26,832 "I don't care whose toes I tread on". That's what you said, and I believed it. 1409 01:44:27,500 --> 01:44:30,210 - Look, I have to go. - Go. 1410 01:44:30,294 --> 01:44:32,170 - I'm a policeman. - Yes, you are. 1411 01:44:32,422 --> 01:44:34,923 The men responsible for Paul's death will be charged. 1412 01:44:35,008 --> 01:44:36,591 To know and do nothing. 1413 01:44:36,676 --> 01:44:39,678 - You can't win against these people. - To just close your eyes. 1414 01:44:39,762 --> 01:44:41,179 Forget it. Go home. 1415 01:44:41,264 --> 01:44:43,390 That's how fascism starts. 1416 01:44:44,434 --> 01:44:46,977 What do you think of your fine British law now? 1417 01:44:47,061 --> 01:44:48,478 This has nothing to do with law. 1418 01:44:48,563 --> 01:44:51,106 - What is it then? - It's politics. 1419 01:44:52,567 --> 01:44:55,777 To enforce the rules of a police state is politics. 1420 01:44:55,862 --> 01:44:58,447 Good guys like you cover it up so bad guys are safe. 1421 01:44:58,531 --> 01:45:01,324 You're a puppet, and the men pulling the strings know it. 1422 01:45:02,285 --> 01:45:04,077 Did he give you the tape? 1423 01:45:04,537 --> 01:45:06,747 - No. - What are you gonna do? 1424 01:45:08,374 --> 01:45:10,500 Tell people, newspapers. 1425 01:45:11,419 --> 01:45:13,420 - They won't print it. - We'll see. 1426 01:45:16,674 --> 01:45:18,467 Go back to America. 1427 01:45:18,968 --> 01:45:21,928 Get out of Belfast. You're in danger here. 1428 01:45:24,348 --> 01:45:26,892 Ingrid, it's finished. 1429 01:45:28,561 --> 01:45:32,022 Not for them, it isn't. Not for Nevin and the others. 1430 01:45:33,316 --> 01:45:36,902 They're not going to disappear. They're still in place. 1431 01:45:42,617 --> 01:45:44,951 You have a plane to catch, Mr. Kerrigan. 1432 01:46:04,305 --> 01:46:06,056 What? Yes. 116654

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