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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,333 Hey, I just saw something zip by me. 2 00:00:07,333 --> 00:00:08,833 MATTY: Just when you thought 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,333 the mystery of Skinwalker Ranch had 4 00:00:10,542 --> 00:00:12,250 reached its peak... 5 00:00:12,375 --> 00:00:16,000 There's a manufactured material inside the mesa. 6 00:00:16,208 --> 00:00:18,375 We got to get this thing tested. 7 00:00:18,583 --> 00:00:22,000 MATTY: ...evidence of a much deeper secret is revealed. 8 00:00:22,208 --> 00:00:23,958 TRAVIS: Are those holes getting bigger? 9 00:00:24,083 --> 00:00:26,333 Now this stuff is fixing itself. 10 00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:29,208 -BRANDON: What? -TRAVIS: Holy crap. 11 00:00:29,417 --> 00:00:32,417 MATTY: After the stunning events of the Season Six premiere... 12 00:00:32,542 --> 00:00:34,375 TRAVIS: That changes history 13 00:00:34,542 --> 00:00:37,167 'cause it means somebody put it in there somehow. 14 00:00:37,375 --> 00:00:38,833 MATTY: ...I'm meeting with the team 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,125 for an exclusive insider's take... 16 00:00:42,292 --> 00:00:44,125 Are we dealing with something truly physical out there? 17 00:00:44,250 --> 00:00:45,333 MATTY: ...on what's to come... 18 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:47,333 I want to know what the hell it is. 19 00:00:47,542 --> 00:00:49,375 MATTY: ...and how it could change the world 20 00:00:49,542 --> 00:00:51,292 as we know it. 21 00:00:51,458 --> 00:00:54,333 Could this be something to do with a wormhole or a portal? 22 00:00:54,542 --> 00:00:56,417 But it certainly grabbed my attention. 23 00:00:56,583 --> 00:00:59,083 ♪ ♪ 24 00:01:07,292 --> 00:01:08,458 MATTY: Gentlemen... 25 00:01:08,625 --> 00:01:11,333 what a way to kick off Season Six. 26 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:14,083 Wow. I wanted to talk about that piece of material 27 00:01:14,250 --> 00:01:15,625 from inside the mesa 28 00:01:15,792 --> 00:01:17,042 that might change the world, 29 00:01:17,250 --> 00:01:19,125 and I want to get there, and we will get there. 30 00:01:19,292 --> 00:01:22,333 But, Brandon, I want to go to you and get your general feeling 31 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:24,083 as to what this team has done. 32 00:01:24,208 --> 00:01:26,708 This team has accomplished 33 00:01:26,875 --> 00:01:30,208 what no other effort has been able 34 00:01:30,333 --> 00:01:33,667 to really see here at Skinwalker Ranch, which is 35 00:01:33,875 --> 00:01:36,042 leading us down paths that, uh, 36 00:01:36,167 --> 00:01:38,292 that I think are going to help us get some answers. 37 00:01:38,458 --> 00:01:41,708 Amazing. The episode started off with that mysterious object, 38 00:01:41,875 --> 00:01:43,333 that piece of ceramic. 39 00:01:43,542 --> 00:01:46,000 But then, you guys conducted an incredible experiment 40 00:01:46,167 --> 00:01:47,167 involving a helicopter. 41 00:01:47,375 --> 00:01:48,667 What were you looking to find? 42 00:01:48,833 --> 00:01:51,833 Well, all of our lidar instruments are saying 43 00:01:52,042 --> 00:01:53,375 there's something there 44 00:01:53,542 --> 00:01:56,125 in this dome shape around the ranch 45 00:01:56,333 --> 00:01:59,625 centered at the triangle, around 2,000 feet in radius. 46 00:01:59,792 --> 00:02:01,333 ERIK: You know, one interpretation, of course, 47 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:03,250 is that we're dealing with something, 48 00:02:03,375 --> 00:02:05,958 and it's out there, really, uh, out in objective reality. 49 00:02:06,125 --> 00:02:07,667 So we're exploring that. 50 00:02:07,875 --> 00:02:10,333 This experiment, it's really a mapping exercise. You know? 51 00:02:10,542 --> 00:02:13,667 We're taking this aircraft with instruments aboard 52 00:02:13,875 --> 00:02:15,833 through the boundary of whatever this thing is 53 00:02:16,042 --> 00:02:17,583 that we're calling the dome. 54 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:20,750 We're collecting GPS data from the helicopter... 55 00:02:22,375 --> 00:02:23,917 ...and we have different forms of lidar, 56 00:02:24,042 --> 00:02:26,208 which is a measurement technique 57 00:02:26,375 --> 00:02:28,500 involving invisible laser light. 58 00:02:28,708 --> 00:02:31,125 Also, as part of the experiment, you know, we're monitoring 59 00:02:31,292 --> 00:02:33,792 with our on-the-ground spectrum analyzers. 60 00:02:33,958 --> 00:02:35,000 And what happened? 61 00:02:35,208 --> 00:02:36,750 ERIK: We have evidence of that, 62 00:02:36,917 --> 00:02:40,083 you know, 2,000 feet or so radius structure in the data, 63 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:41,792 you know, both in the space above, 64 00:02:41,958 --> 00:02:45,292 and we're getting anomalous returns below ground, 65 00:02:45,417 --> 00:02:47,167 which should be impossible. 66 00:02:47,375 --> 00:02:48,958 TRAVIS: When we put the lidar points on a map, 67 00:02:49,125 --> 00:02:50,500 they draw this bubble. 68 00:02:50,667 --> 00:02:53,000 So, the lidar is not designed to pick up things 69 00:02:53,208 --> 00:02:55,000 underground and yet, you're seeing data? 70 00:02:55,125 --> 00:02:57,208 ERIK: That's absolutely right. It is not designed to do that. 71 00:02:57,375 --> 00:02:59,083 TRAVIS: You know, there's one other piece that happened 72 00:02:59,208 --> 00:03:01,667 during this experiment that wasn't expected 73 00:03:01,833 --> 00:03:03,000 or even part of the experiment. 74 00:03:03,125 --> 00:03:04,292 And, Thomas, you saw it 75 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:06,333 with the hand communications, 76 00:03:06,542 --> 00:03:08,583 walkies between the ground and the helicopter. 77 00:03:08,708 --> 00:03:09,667 Yeah. 78 00:03:16,833 --> 00:03:19,208 Something is blocking the radio signal. 79 00:03:19,375 --> 00:03:21,500 Hey, guys. Be advised, 80 00:03:21,625 --> 00:03:24,167 we have good strong comms with him 81 00:03:24,375 --> 00:03:26,792 until he gets directly over the triangle 82 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,000 and then his transmission becomes so garbled 83 00:03:30,167 --> 00:03:32,500 we can't understand him. 84 00:03:32,625 --> 00:03:35,208 We were watching the helicopter's GPS location 85 00:03:35,375 --> 00:03:37,167 as well as with our eyes 86 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:39,125 as it was flying back and forth. 87 00:03:39,292 --> 00:03:41,833 And almost without exception, 88 00:03:42,042 --> 00:03:43,500 when the helicopter would fly 89 00:03:43,708 --> 00:03:45,625 through where we've identified this boundary to be, 90 00:03:45,792 --> 00:03:49,083 of this bubble, we would have garbled communications 91 00:03:49,208 --> 00:03:51,167 over the two-way radio. 92 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:53,792 Well, Cameron also reported disruption 93 00:03:53,958 --> 00:03:56,625 with the equipment on the helicopter as well. 94 00:03:56,750 --> 00:03:58,625 I think that's important to know. 95 00:03:58,792 --> 00:04:00,542 ERIK: We're still at the stage of determining, 96 00:04:00,667 --> 00:04:03,292 are we dealing with something truly physical out there? 97 00:04:03,458 --> 00:04:04,958 Or are we dealing with something 98 00:04:05,167 --> 00:04:06,458 that is a structure in the data? 99 00:04:06,625 --> 00:04:08,292 Both of those are very interesting. 100 00:04:08,375 --> 00:04:10,125 What could be putting that 101 00:04:10,292 --> 00:04:11,833 into those instrument readings? 102 00:04:12,042 --> 00:04:13,333 -Multiple instruments. -Yes. 103 00:04:13,542 --> 00:04:15,958 You know, I-I think that's important you say that 104 00:04:16,125 --> 00:04:17,250 'cause in my layman terms, 105 00:04:17,417 --> 00:04:18,792 I'm thinking of this dome or bubble, 106 00:04:18,958 --> 00:04:20,708 and you think of, you imagine things hitting it 107 00:04:20,875 --> 00:04:22,667 like a force field or something. You're saying that's not quite-- 108 00:04:22,792 --> 00:04:24,833 -We're not saying it's not a force field. -MATTY: Okay. 109 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,375 -We don't know what the answer is. -Fair enough. Yeah. 110 00:04:26,583 --> 00:04:28,167 Right? All we know is we have a bunch of data, 111 00:04:28,292 --> 00:04:29,583 so there's something weird. 112 00:04:29,750 --> 00:04:31,292 And we-we're trying 113 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:34,667 to narrow down the solution set for whatever this is. 114 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:36,458 -Copy that. -THOMAS: When I first saw 115 00:04:36,625 --> 00:04:40,000 the-the dome or the bubble as we're calling it, 116 00:04:40,167 --> 00:04:42,750 uh, I was immediately skeptical of it 117 00:04:42,875 --> 00:04:46,292 but we're picking up all kinds of anomalies, 118 00:04:46,417 --> 00:04:48,708 both on the outside as well as in the center. 119 00:04:48,875 --> 00:04:53,875 I mean, Erik and Travis, we've collected all kinds 120 00:04:54,042 --> 00:04:57,417 of unbelievable data right there in the center of the triangle. 121 00:04:57,583 --> 00:04:59,333 You see the hole in the data 122 00:04:59,542 --> 00:05:01,833 from the lidar scan that OmniTeq did? 123 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,417 Not to mention 124 00:05:03,542 --> 00:05:06,500 all the UAPs that we've captured when we've been out there 125 00:05:06,667 --> 00:05:08,208 doing work there in the triangle. 126 00:05:08,375 --> 00:05:09,833 It really makes me start to wonder, you know, 127 00:05:10,042 --> 00:05:13,167 could this be something to do with a wormhole or a portal? 128 00:05:13,375 --> 00:05:16,750 Yeah, and let me add to that a little bit. 129 00:05:16,875 --> 00:05:20,083 We're not saying that there's a, uh, a wormhole 130 00:05:20,250 --> 00:05:21,833 as we understand from general relativity 131 00:05:22,042 --> 00:05:23,250 out there at the triangle. 132 00:05:23,417 --> 00:05:25,083 Everybody's seen science fiction movies. 133 00:05:25,292 --> 00:05:26,750 You know, a gate opens up at one end 134 00:05:26,917 --> 00:05:29,042 and then somewhere else across the universe, 135 00:05:29,208 --> 00:05:33,042 and you go in, it's a shortcut to go extreme distances, right? 136 00:05:33,208 --> 00:05:37,042 Well, if this were a wormhole above the triangle, uh, 137 00:05:37,208 --> 00:05:38,833 as we understand wormholes, 138 00:05:38,958 --> 00:05:41,542 it takes huge amounts of gravitational interactions, 139 00:05:41,750 --> 00:05:43,333 it would be destroying the planet. 140 00:05:43,458 --> 00:05:44,792 -Right. -TRAVIS: If it's that close. 141 00:05:44,958 --> 00:05:47,375 This bubble is something more exotic, 142 00:05:47,583 --> 00:05:48,667 more-- or different, 143 00:05:48,833 --> 00:05:50,750 or-or something we don't understand yet. 144 00:05:50,917 --> 00:05:52,667 ERIK: Yeah, during this experiment, 145 00:05:52,833 --> 00:05:56,375 we've got multiple datasets from multiple equipment types 146 00:05:56,542 --> 00:05:58,333 telling us that there's just returns 147 00:05:58,542 --> 00:06:00,000 and-and signals and things that don't make sense, 148 00:06:00,167 --> 00:06:01,333 they don't belong there. 149 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,833 What is the true secret of Skinwalker Ranch? 150 00:06:06,958 --> 00:06:09,167 Well, in the incredible Season Six premiere, 151 00:06:09,375 --> 00:06:10,542 the team may have come 152 00:06:10,708 --> 00:06:13,375 one major step closer to revealing the answer. 153 00:06:13,542 --> 00:06:16,333 Gentlemen, when we last left, we were talking about 154 00:06:16,542 --> 00:06:17,583 this amazing experiment you did. 155 00:06:17,750 --> 00:06:18,958 Erik, I wanted to talk about 156 00:06:19,125 --> 00:06:21,583 some of these new anomalies 157 00:06:21,792 --> 00:06:23,458 that you were seeing in this experiment 158 00:06:23,625 --> 00:06:25,167 and what that might have told you in terms of a bubble. 159 00:06:25,333 --> 00:06:26,667 ERIK: Yeah. Yeah. 160 00:06:26,875 --> 00:06:29,292 We're taking the aircraft with instruments aboard, 161 00:06:29,458 --> 00:06:31,958 traversing the space, exploring the boundaries 162 00:06:32,042 --> 00:06:34,667 and the region inside what we're calling the dome or the bubble. 163 00:06:34,875 --> 00:06:37,125 So, as we're painting the space with data 164 00:06:37,292 --> 00:06:39,667 from those GPS tracking devices 165 00:06:39,875 --> 00:06:42,167 that are broadcasting the location back to a receiver, 166 00:06:42,375 --> 00:06:44,833 we're starting to see a concentration 167 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,333 of these error points 168 00:06:46,542 --> 00:06:47,875 right over the triangle. 169 00:06:49,375 --> 00:06:52,458 CAMERON (over walkie): Coming up over the triangle at this time. 170 00:06:52,625 --> 00:06:55,500 400 feet and nine knots. 171 00:06:56,875 --> 00:06:59,625 ERIK: Look, look. It's happening again. 172 00:06:59,792 --> 00:07:01,125 Yeah. 173 00:07:01,292 --> 00:07:03,083 ERIK: Yet again, it's like the data is 174 00:07:03,250 --> 00:07:05,500 disappearing into a void. 175 00:07:06,708 --> 00:07:09,708 The GPS data itself is corrupted. 176 00:07:09,875 --> 00:07:12,708 Especially in a region right over the triangle, 177 00:07:12,875 --> 00:07:15,167 forming, if you will, a vertical structure, 178 00:07:15,375 --> 00:07:19,583 but especially dense at increasing altitude. 179 00:07:19,750 --> 00:07:22,500 I would compare it to an apple core. 180 00:07:22,708 --> 00:07:24,583 Mm. You know what goes in and out of apples, don't you? 181 00:07:24,708 --> 00:07:25,667 Worms. 182 00:07:25,750 --> 00:07:27,542 -(chuckles) -Wormholes. 183 00:07:27,708 --> 00:07:29,458 TRAVIS: Well, if you look at an eaten apple core, 184 00:07:29,625 --> 00:07:31,750 you've got the tops of it, it flares out, right? 185 00:07:31,917 --> 00:07:33,958 It's like two funnels stuck at the-- 186 00:07:34,167 --> 00:07:35,792 like an hourglass, for example. 187 00:07:35,958 --> 00:07:40,375 And that's the way we draw for illustration purposes 188 00:07:40,542 --> 00:07:42,667 what an Einstein-Rosen Bridge, 189 00:07:42,875 --> 00:07:45,000 or a wormhole would actually look like. 190 00:07:45,208 --> 00:07:48,875 Why is it that the GPS is what's affected this way? 191 00:07:50,208 --> 00:07:51,500 MATTY: Erik, help me understand. 192 00:07:51,708 --> 00:07:52,500 Are these gaps or is this corrupted? 193 00:07:52,708 --> 00:07:53,750 Is it disappearing? 194 00:07:53,917 --> 00:07:54,958 ERIK: That's a great question. 195 00:07:55,125 --> 00:07:56,500 With some of the GPS readings, 196 00:07:56,708 --> 00:07:58,750 we have the position itself being misreported. 197 00:07:58,917 --> 00:08:01,583 In other cases, it is the corruption of the data 198 00:08:01,750 --> 00:08:03,583 as it passes through those regions. 199 00:08:03,708 --> 00:08:06,208 And something is interfering with the transmission 200 00:08:06,375 --> 00:08:07,667 of that signal back to the base station. 201 00:08:07,875 --> 00:08:09,500 TRAVIS: And so think about that. 202 00:08:09,708 --> 00:08:13,750 There is this bubble where data corruption occurs. 203 00:08:13,875 --> 00:08:16,833 Why is it in that location, why is it localized? 204 00:08:17,042 --> 00:08:19,125 It's conglomerated, it's consolidated 205 00:08:19,292 --> 00:08:20,625 right in that one spot. 206 00:08:20,792 --> 00:08:22,375 That gets my attention. 207 00:08:22,542 --> 00:08:24,083 You know, Brandon, I think of you 208 00:08:24,250 --> 00:08:25,833 because you were watching this kind of live-time happen, 209 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,125 -these anomalies happen with the GPS. -Right. 210 00:08:28,292 --> 00:08:30,208 -What do you make of this? -BRANDON: Well, watching the data emerge, 211 00:08:30,375 --> 00:08:32,000 real time, 212 00:08:32,125 --> 00:08:36,625 as this entire experiment is playing out, was exciting. 213 00:08:36,792 --> 00:08:38,625 I mean, it was verification. 214 00:08:38,792 --> 00:08:42,917 What we see is true validation that there are 215 00:08:43,083 --> 00:08:46,125 anomalies and there's something focused 216 00:08:46,292 --> 00:08:47,750 within that region of the property. 217 00:08:47,917 --> 00:08:49,417 And we're seeing it repeatedly. 218 00:08:49,583 --> 00:08:52,208 And across multiple scientific platforms. 219 00:08:52,375 --> 00:08:54,375 If there's something messing with GPS out here on the ranch, 220 00:08:54,542 --> 00:08:56,167 I want to know what the hell it is. 221 00:08:56,333 --> 00:08:58,583 THOMAS: You know, I have to think, there's got to be 222 00:08:58,750 --> 00:09:00,958 some type of intelligence because it's affecting 223 00:09:01,125 --> 00:09:04,625 an entire spectrum of, of equipment and technologies. 224 00:09:04,792 --> 00:09:07,458 TRAVIS: And-and as far as I know, 225 00:09:07,583 --> 00:09:11,042 humanity does not have that capability yet. 226 00:09:11,208 --> 00:09:12,875 To do what we're describing here. 227 00:09:13,042 --> 00:09:15,333 To-to manipulate all of these different types of instruments. 228 00:09:15,542 --> 00:09:18,833 And we even asked a, uh, a super hacker 229 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,333 if he could reproduce some of these things, 230 00:09:22,542 --> 00:09:23,917 and-and he said that he-- 231 00:09:24,083 --> 00:09:25,750 that the technology doesn't exist. 232 00:09:25,875 --> 00:09:27,500 KALEB: And that's what crazy. 233 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:30,000 Is it's multiple technologies across the board. 234 00:09:30,167 --> 00:09:32,500 BRANDON: Typical jamming and spoofing wouldn't 235 00:09:32,667 --> 00:09:34,333 involve all of the other 236 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:35,833 -sensor equipment. -TRAVIS: Oh, Lord, no. 237 00:09:36,042 --> 00:09:37,708 ERIK: Yeah, j-jamming and spoofing is like 238 00:09:37,875 --> 00:09:40,333 someone yelling, whereas what we're seeing might be akin 239 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:41,667 to someone speaking. 240 00:09:41,833 --> 00:09:42,625 -Right. -MATTY: I wanted you to say that. 241 00:09:42,792 --> 00:09:44,000 And speaking multiple languages. 242 00:09:44,167 --> 00:09:45,875 -There we go. -MATTY: That's crazy. 243 00:09:46,042 --> 00:09:47,792 Erik, you mentioned jamming and spoofing. 244 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,417 -Yeah. -MATTY: How about next level up, mimicking? 245 00:09:50,583 --> 00:09:52,625 Because with some of the signals 246 00:09:52,833 --> 00:09:54,500 you were broadcasting and then received, 247 00:09:54,708 --> 00:09:56,625 it almost seemed like the ranch was talking back to you. 248 00:09:56,833 --> 00:10:01,000 Yeah, yeah, there did seem to be a Polo to our Marco. 249 00:10:01,125 --> 00:10:02,708 Uh, recall, we have this 250 00:10:02,875 --> 00:10:05,583 1.2 gigahertz transmitter on the aircraft. 251 00:10:05,708 --> 00:10:09,000 And I'm tracking the position of this, of this signal 252 00:10:09,167 --> 00:10:12,500 coming from the transmitter, and another signal shows up. 253 00:10:12,667 --> 00:10:14,958 TRAVIS: So check this out. 254 00:10:15,917 --> 00:10:19,000 There is a signal that is not Erik 255 00:10:19,208 --> 00:10:21,833 right there by the signal that Erik is sending. 256 00:10:22,042 --> 00:10:23,958 That-- I don't know, it don't make any sense. 257 00:10:24,167 --> 00:10:25,083 KALEB: No. 258 00:10:26,042 --> 00:10:29,625 Erik and I specifically had the conversation 259 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:32,333 on what frequency we needed to set our transmitter up 260 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:34,917 to follow, and we wanted it to be outside of anything 261 00:10:35,083 --> 00:10:37,333 we'd ever seen happen on the ranch before. 262 00:10:37,458 --> 00:10:39,500 And we looked and we said, "Well, 1.2 gigahertz, 263 00:10:39,708 --> 00:10:41,583 "we've never seen any signals coming from there. 264 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:42,958 "That's a wide-open spot. 265 00:10:43,083 --> 00:10:44,333 Let's use that." 266 00:10:44,542 --> 00:10:46,792 -So broadcast that. -And-and so we did. 267 00:10:46,917 --> 00:10:49,833 And on the-the first day we do that, 268 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,500 it's like something said, "Oh, hi." 269 00:10:53,708 --> 00:10:56,458 And-and-and yelled hi back at us, right? 270 00:10:56,625 --> 00:10:58,083 We were pinging and we got a ping back. 271 00:10:58,250 --> 00:10:59,625 -Interesting. -TRAVIS: So there was a signal-- 272 00:10:59,708 --> 00:11:01,333 -So, it wasn't you? -It wasn't us. 273 00:11:01,542 --> 00:11:02,750 We looked around for it. 274 00:11:02,917 --> 00:11:04,958 And it seemed to be moving in position. 275 00:11:05,167 --> 00:11:08,083 That-That's about as, uh, good as we could, we could say. 276 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:11,042 Well, this is a little frightening. 277 00:11:11,208 --> 00:11:12,708 That's next level. 278 00:11:12,917 --> 00:11:14,167 The ranch or somebody or something talking back to you. 279 00:11:18,250 --> 00:11:20,000 Is it possible that someone or something is 280 00:11:20,167 --> 00:11:22,042 actually trying to communicate with this team 281 00:11:22,208 --> 00:11:24,292 while they're conducting experiments? 282 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:25,667 Well, what we saw 283 00:11:25,875 --> 00:11:27,750 in the incredible Season Six premiere 284 00:11:27,917 --> 00:11:30,167 just might justify that question. 285 00:11:30,333 --> 00:11:33,833 Gentlemen, we were talking about this mysterious 286 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,542 1.2 gigahertz signal. 287 00:11:35,708 --> 00:11:37,542 Not coming from you-- 288 00:11:37,708 --> 00:11:39,000 you've eliminated that it's coming from you-- 289 00:11:39,208 --> 00:11:41,750 and during that time, another anomaly happens. 290 00:11:41,917 --> 00:11:43,042 You're talking about 291 00:11:43,208 --> 00:11:44,583 what Pete Kelsey reported having seen 292 00:11:44,708 --> 00:11:46,083 -with the naked eye... -MATTY: Yes. 293 00:11:46,250 --> 00:11:48,875 ...as he's flying, uh, you know, with Cameron. 294 00:11:49,083 --> 00:11:50,500 CAMERON (over walkie): Be advised we are proceeding east. 295 00:11:50,583 --> 00:11:53,208 We are at the west side of the dome. 296 00:11:54,375 --> 00:11:55,667 Copy that. 297 00:11:59,833 --> 00:12:02,958 Hey, I just saw something zip by me. 298 00:12:05,917 --> 00:12:07,083 Whoa! 299 00:12:08,792 --> 00:12:11,833 They were over the Homestead Two area 300 00:12:11,917 --> 00:12:14,292 and he reports seeing something 301 00:12:14,417 --> 00:12:17,500 going across his field of view 302 00:12:17,708 --> 00:12:20,625 west to east, brighter than the surroundings. 303 00:12:20,792 --> 00:12:22,458 No one else saw it at the time. However, 304 00:12:22,625 --> 00:12:25,667 on review of the video record, 305 00:12:25,833 --> 00:12:29,167 we do see bright objects moving. 306 00:12:29,333 --> 00:12:33,375 So we may actually have a recording of what Pete saw. 307 00:12:33,542 --> 00:12:37,583 And the video shows it coming from about treetop high 308 00:12:37,750 --> 00:12:39,667 over Homestead Two, 309 00:12:39,875 --> 00:12:42,208 and in the direction toward, uh, the triangle. 310 00:12:42,375 --> 00:12:45,500 And that's pretty fascinating, especially since, 311 00:12:45,667 --> 00:12:47,417 you know, when Kaleb and I were following 312 00:12:47,583 --> 00:12:48,958 that 1.2 gigahertz signal, 313 00:12:49,042 --> 00:12:51,292 it appeared to be coming from that direction. 314 00:12:51,458 --> 00:12:52,917 Now that's interesting. 315 00:12:53,042 --> 00:12:54,583 So, this happened during the time you're getting 316 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:56,417 that 1.2 gigahertz signal. 317 00:12:56,625 --> 00:12:58,458 Could that be your source, that UAP? 318 00:12:58,625 --> 00:13:00,167 Or has been any corroborative data 319 00:13:00,375 --> 00:13:02,000 that every time you're getting a signal like that, 320 00:13:02,167 --> 00:13:03,500 you're seeing a UAP at the same time, 321 00:13:03,708 --> 00:13:04,958 could they be connected? 322 00:13:05,125 --> 00:13:07,292 We have an abundance of data showing 323 00:13:07,417 --> 00:13:11,167 that electromagnetic effects 324 00:13:11,333 --> 00:13:16,083 and signal effects occur, oftentimes, 325 00:13:16,250 --> 00:13:19,667 in tandem with UAP or UFO activity registered 326 00:13:19,833 --> 00:13:21,167 and documented above the property. 327 00:13:21,333 --> 00:13:26,875 Now that you've had this 1.2 gigahertz signal, 328 00:13:27,042 --> 00:13:29,917 that's-- I think it's something interesting in the data 329 00:13:30,042 --> 00:13:32,000 that shows that there's something really going on. 330 00:13:32,167 --> 00:13:33,875 MATTY: Well, let's go back to the bubble. 331 00:13:34,042 --> 00:13:36,375 I mean, could this UAP have gone through the bubble, 332 00:13:36,583 --> 00:13:38,333 or come from the bubble, for example, 333 00:13:38,542 --> 00:13:39,917 because it's so anomalous there? 334 00:13:40,083 --> 00:13:41,333 And this makes me think, too, Travis, 335 00:13:41,542 --> 00:13:42,917 of, again, that ring 336 00:13:43,083 --> 00:13:44,667 or that donut-shaped anomaly 337 00:13:44,875 --> 00:13:47,000 right in the center of this bubble. 338 00:13:47,167 --> 00:13:49,500 That could be the point, the entry-exit point. 339 00:13:49,625 --> 00:13:52,083 TRAVIS: You know, and one of the things we've often discussed, 340 00:13:52,250 --> 00:13:54,250 are they coming or going, right? 341 00:13:54,417 --> 00:13:55,792 And what is the mechanism? 342 00:13:55,958 --> 00:13:57,667 Is it an interplay between whatever is 343 00:13:57,875 --> 00:13:59,750 at the triangle, the anomaly in the middle? 344 00:13:59,958 --> 00:14:03,083 Is this bubble, uh, maybe 345 00:14:03,250 --> 00:14:07,083 protecting or working as the transition area 346 00:14:07,250 --> 00:14:10,792 for whatever this doorway might be? 347 00:14:10,917 --> 00:14:12,875 -Like in Stargate. -Yeah. 348 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,500 -Remember the movie Stargate? -Yeah, just like, just like that. 349 00:14:14,708 --> 00:14:16,042 -Yes, yes, yes. -ERIK: But, you know, 350 00:14:16,208 --> 00:14:17,792 think about why we're conducting the experiment. 351 00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:20,833 We're passing through this, this boundary layer. 352 00:14:20,958 --> 00:14:22,625 We're passing through the apple core 353 00:14:22,792 --> 00:14:24,000 that we've been talking about. 354 00:14:24,167 --> 00:14:25,958 I'm wondering whether what we've seen 355 00:14:26,125 --> 00:14:27,875 in the 1.2 gigahertz as well 356 00:14:28,042 --> 00:14:31,167 as this potential orb, could be a response 357 00:14:31,333 --> 00:14:33,875 to the helicopter, which is producing quite a bit of, 358 00:14:34,042 --> 00:14:37,042 of energy as it passes through those regions. 359 00:14:37,208 --> 00:14:38,792 -Amazing. -ERIK: Very interesting thoughts. 360 00:14:38,958 --> 00:14:39,750 TRAVIS: Well, and-and we know that we get 361 00:14:39,917 --> 00:14:41,958 responses from experiments, 362 00:14:42,125 --> 00:14:44,667 or at least things that appear to be responses, 363 00:14:44,875 --> 00:14:47,667 like when we launched the rocket and hit whatever the blob is. 364 00:14:48,708 --> 00:14:52,292 Hey, check this out, there's something on the camera. 365 00:14:53,333 --> 00:14:55,708 KALEB: Yeah, look at that. Look at the light. 366 00:14:55,875 --> 00:14:57,625 TRAVIS: There is literally something. 367 00:14:57,792 --> 00:15:01,000 We may be looking at the anomaly for the first time, guys. 368 00:15:01,208 --> 00:15:02,500 Burdette, could you play it one more time? 369 00:15:02,667 --> 00:15:04,167 I want to make sure I saw what I think I just saw. 370 00:15:04,292 --> 00:15:08,125 Right, now the rocket is almost there. 371 00:15:08,333 --> 00:15:10,250 And then the rocket blows up right when it hits it! 372 00:15:10,417 --> 00:15:11,542 Look at that. 373 00:15:11,708 --> 00:15:13,458 So you can see it right there, 374 00:15:13,625 --> 00:15:14,792 there's something in the sky. 375 00:15:14,958 --> 00:15:16,000 KALEB: Its already illuminated by the light. 376 00:15:16,167 --> 00:15:18,417 TRAVIS: Yeah. Oh, my God. 377 00:15:19,667 --> 00:15:21,333 And that's right there in the middle of the triangle, 378 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,250 right in the center of this apple core. 379 00:15:23,375 --> 00:15:27,333 And so, is the bubble protecting whatever this is? 380 00:15:27,542 --> 00:15:31,042 One thing is for sure, we're seeing so many UAPs here, 381 00:15:31,208 --> 00:15:32,667 and they're correlated with the things 382 00:15:32,875 --> 00:15:34,333 that we're doing in our experiment. 383 00:15:34,542 --> 00:15:36,833 So, you know, it does lead you to believe 384 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,792 that there is some type of connection. 385 00:15:38,917 --> 00:15:41,292 TRAVIS: And could the connection also be 386 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:44,208 to what that was that we found that we showed 387 00:15:44,417 --> 00:15:47,042 at the very beginning of that, of this episode. 388 00:15:47,208 --> 00:15:49,000 I'm very glad you just brought that up, 389 00:15:49,208 --> 00:15:52,417 because it's where this season premiere kicked off. 390 00:15:52,542 --> 00:15:54,292 It's what grabbed the world's attention. 391 00:15:54,417 --> 00:15:55,458 It's what certainly grabbed my attention. 392 00:15:59,875 --> 00:16:01,500 The revelations in the Season Six premiere 393 00:16:01,625 --> 00:16:03,333 of The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch suggest 394 00:16:03,542 --> 00:16:06,167 there are many more shocking things to come. 395 00:16:06,292 --> 00:16:09,917 Gentlemen, you know, I watched that footage. 396 00:16:10,958 --> 00:16:13,083 If you've been following this type of thing, 397 00:16:13,250 --> 00:16:16,125 like I have since I was about ten years old, ufology, 398 00:16:16,292 --> 00:16:19,500 UAPs, all this, you hear about strange materials. 399 00:16:19,708 --> 00:16:21,333 What do we make of this ceramic? 400 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:22,875 Wow. 401 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,292 When I purchased the ranch, 402 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:27,583 I believed that there was a natural explanation, 403 00:16:27,750 --> 00:16:29,625 most likely, behind everything 404 00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:33,417 that had been reported for decades, if not millennia. 405 00:16:33,583 --> 00:16:35,875 And what we have recovered from the mesa is 406 00:16:36,042 --> 00:16:37,833 definitely not natural. 407 00:16:38,042 --> 00:16:40,708 ERIK: So, so at this point, Matty, we're looking at material 408 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:42,708 that is out of its geologic context. 409 00:16:42,875 --> 00:16:44,625 As you said, Brandon, not natural. 410 00:16:44,792 --> 00:16:46,250 What the hell is it doing there? 411 00:16:46,375 --> 00:16:47,917 How did it get potentially 412 00:16:48,083 --> 00:16:49,667 hundreds of feet into, into the mesa? 413 00:16:49,833 --> 00:16:51,667 It could be anything, 414 00:16:51,792 --> 00:16:54,167 from the mundane to the exotic. 415 00:16:54,333 --> 00:16:55,875 But here's the thing. 416 00:16:56,042 --> 00:16:58,833 Even if it turns out to be mundane, 417 00:16:59,042 --> 00:17:02,000 it's still a manufactured material. 418 00:17:02,208 --> 00:17:05,083 -In the mesa. -TRAVIS: And it was so far into the mesa 419 00:17:05,250 --> 00:17:07,833 that where we found it suggested it was there 420 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,875 by natural soil deposition, 421 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,750 would have been 50 million years ago. 422 00:17:11,917 --> 00:17:15,292 -(chuckles) -TRAVIS: Right? And so that changes history 423 00:17:15,458 --> 00:17:17,208 one way or the other 'cause it means 424 00:17:17,375 --> 00:17:19,625 somebody put it in there somehow. 425 00:17:19,792 --> 00:17:21,458 How did it get in there 426 00:17:21,625 --> 00:17:24,542 and why does our history record not show that? 427 00:17:24,708 --> 00:17:27,667 Travis, you are as careful as anyone I've ever met 428 00:17:27,875 --> 00:17:29,417 to be very judicious 429 00:17:29,583 --> 00:17:31,333 as far as what you say 'cause, you know, 430 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:33,833 you want to be scientific about it, and I respect that. 431 00:17:34,042 --> 00:17:35,500 But I want to ask you this, too. 432 00:17:35,708 --> 00:17:38,542 Have you ever seen a material act like that 433 00:17:38,708 --> 00:17:40,125 under any sort of microscope? 434 00:17:40,292 --> 00:17:43,250 I have not. And I've seen many, uh, materials 435 00:17:43,375 --> 00:17:46,333 under an electron microscope like that, 436 00:17:46,542 --> 00:17:50,417 and I haven't seen it do that specific thing that we saw. 437 00:17:50,542 --> 00:17:53,042 Look at that surface right there. 438 00:17:54,292 --> 00:17:56,333 -BRIAN: Zoomed in a little bit. -ERIK: There we go. 439 00:17:56,542 --> 00:17:59,667 I can see some clearly defined holes. 440 00:17:59,792 --> 00:18:00,708 Oh, yeah. 441 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,875 TRAVIS: Are those holes getting bigger? 442 00:18:06,083 --> 00:18:08,667 -ERIK: Yes, I think so. -What? 443 00:18:08,833 --> 00:18:11,750 -TRAVIS: It is, it's opening up. -BRANDON: Yeah, yeah. 444 00:18:11,875 --> 00:18:13,458 TRAVIS: Holy crap, look at that. 445 00:18:15,250 --> 00:18:17,083 Travis and I both are familiar with the way 446 00:18:17,250 --> 00:18:20,792 materials like ceramics behave under electron microscopy 447 00:18:20,917 --> 00:18:22,250 when we hit it with that beam. 448 00:18:22,417 --> 00:18:24,125 You know, we do see certain kinds of changes. 449 00:18:24,208 --> 00:18:27,292 The changes we saw with this material are not 450 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:29,625 like the changes I've seen in other materials. 451 00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:31,000 That's what got my interest. 452 00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:32,542 -They're very unique. -BRANDON: Yes. 453 00:18:32,708 --> 00:18:36,625 I think it's important to note that we are doing this 454 00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:39,458 in coordination with third-party experts, 455 00:18:39,625 --> 00:18:42,500 not only relative to the analysis of the material 456 00:18:42,708 --> 00:18:45,958 but also the extraction and the examination 457 00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:49,000 with our archaeologists and our drilling experts. 458 00:18:49,208 --> 00:18:51,833 And they're all scratching their heads. 459 00:18:52,042 --> 00:18:54,833 But with this, we have something physical 460 00:18:55,042 --> 00:18:57,542 that we know for sure is not natural. 461 00:18:57,750 --> 00:19:00,167 No matter what else happens across the entire ranch, 462 00:19:00,333 --> 00:19:03,750 we have something truly spectacular, a mystery 463 00:19:03,917 --> 00:19:07,500 that is waiting to be solved, and it's inside the mesa. 464 00:19:07,667 --> 00:19:10,333 We know where it's at, and now we've just got to 465 00:19:10,542 --> 00:19:13,833 figure out the best and safest method to get it. 466 00:19:14,042 --> 00:19:15,833 So that's exciting for me. 467 00:19:15,917 --> 00:19:17,417 You know, you have to think about 468 00:19:17,583 --> 00:19:19,333 this anomaly that's inside the mesa. 469 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:21,000 Did it come right off of that? 470 00:19:21,208 --> 00:19:22,750 Is this a piece of that technology? 471 00:19:22,917 --> 00:19:25,000 All right. Well, let me put it this way, Matty. 472 00:19:25,208 --> 00:19:26,500 Stay tuned. 473 00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:28,458 We will. And thank you, gentlemen, so much 474 00:19:28,583 --> 00:19:30,667 for this unique opportunity. It's just awesome. 475 00:19:30,833 --> 00:19:33,333 To take a step back and to look at it overall, 476 00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:36,333 I think really helps the team, and it certainly helps us fans 477 00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:38,625 understand what's happening, so thank you so much. 478 00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:42,417 Well, where else can you go on the planet and see UFOs, 479 00:19:42,583 --> 00:19:46,583 unexplained material extracted from an unlikely place, 480 00:19:46,750 --> 00:19:50,417 and all of the equipment malfunctions and, really, 481 00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:53,208 the verification that there is some type of anomaly, 482 00:19:53,375 --> 00:19:58,042 whether it be a bubble, a dome, something within this region 483 00:19:58,208 --> 00:20:00,708 where everything seems to be converging. 484 00:20:00,875 --> 00:20:02,667 You've got to take note. 485 00:20:02,875 --> 00:20:05,417 And we have, and we will continue to follow your journey. 486 00:20:05,542 --> 00:20:08,000 Thank you, gentlemen. We'll do it again. 487 00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:09,167 THOMAS: Looking forward to it. 488 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:10,417 -Thank you. -Thank you. 489 00:20:10,583 --> 00:20:12,500 Something tells me that Season Six 490 00:20:12,625 --> 00:20:14,750 of The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch is gonna be loaded 491 00:20:14,958 --> 00:20:18,000 with earth-shaking events and this is just the beginning. 492 00:20:18,167 --> 00:20:19,250 Join me here next week, 493 00:20:19,375 --> 00:20:20,333 right here at the command center, 494 00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:21,750 we'll do it all again. 495 00:20:21,958 --> 00:20:23,333 Until then, have a good night. 496 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:26,167 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 37472

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