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[EPIC MUSIC]
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NARRATOR: When
the curtain lowered
onThe Empire Strikes Back
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in 1980...
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-[SLAMS]
-audiences were left hanging.
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It could've been
a better ending.
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NARRATOR:
And theStar Wars saga
would never be the same,
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but the production
of the film itself
had left George Lucas
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in a similar,
albeit more personal,
state of uncertainty.
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He wanted to be
in control of his own destiny.
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NARRATOR: After stepping back
from the director's chair,
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with eyes on building
his corporate empire...
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MARCIA: George always said
to me, "I've got a company now.
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"I'm a success.
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"I will never, ever
give up my company."
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NARRATOR: The production,
free from his watchful eye,
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veered off course.
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If Empirehadn't been a hit,
he could've lost everything.
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NARRATOR: And, so,
as George Lucas set out
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to conclude his epic saga
in the stars,
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he would need to balance
his time more deftly
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between the soundstage
and the boardroom.
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He had a bigger vision.
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NARRATOR: But there was
only so much
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of this modern mogul
to go around.
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The Star Warsfilms are
producing a great many strains
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for George Lucas
including a strain
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on his marriage with Marcia.
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NARRATOR: And as the trilogy
hurtled towards
its climactic end,
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Lucas was heading to the end
of a more personal chapter.
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We all knew something was amiss.
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[EXCITING MUSIC]
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[BUILDING MUSIC]
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Star Warswas act one.
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Empire Strikes Back
was the storytelling.
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The meat of it, act two.
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NARRATOR: And now with a third
movie a guarantee,
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Star Wars,
both on and off the screen,
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needed its conclusion.
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The third one, I think...
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we have to top it
to complete the story
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and unfortunately...
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uh, there's things in the way...
And I don't mean the Ewoks.
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NARRATOR: Quite a few things
in the way, in fact.
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Um...um... scary, little dudes.
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NARRATOR: First and foremost
was something far less adorable
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yet still relatively hairy.
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George's relationship
with Gary Kurtz
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who'd been mostly replaced
on the last picture
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by Howard Kazanjian.
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I took over
the picture at the end
when it went over budget.
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NARRATOR: But now
as the wheels begin to turn
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on the third movie
in the trilogy,
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it seemed that Gary
didn't exactly know
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where he stood with George,
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as evident in this awkward
encounter during pre-production
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for what would become
Return of the Jedi.
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KAZANJIAN: I was
in London to prepare
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and Gary walked in.
He said, "Hey.
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"What are you doing here?"
And I told him
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that I was doing work
with the crew
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for the next Star Warspicture.
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And, yes, he turned white
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because he hadn't been told.
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He says, "No, George
never told me."
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Now, it was very difficult
for me to tell Gary
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he's not on the next picture.
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That wasn't my job.
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I thought George had told him.
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[JAZZ MUSIC]
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NARRATOR: With Gary gone
and George truly free
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from the financial clutches
of bank loans...
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Lucas is finally able to do
what no one in history
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had been able to do before.
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NARRATOR: George Lucas
was about to achieve
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his long-awaited nirvana.
Total control.
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TENUTO: He was able to become
his own studio because
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of The Empire Strikes Back
and the money that was made.
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And that's really what
he was interested in.
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It wasn't about the money.
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It was about the ability
to become his own studio.
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He's doing a lot of things
that are innovative
in the industry.
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He started this company
that was digitalizing editing.
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And then he started
his THX sound system
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that they were using
in theaters.
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NARRATOR: And let's not forget
Lucas's ventures
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into the then
nascent technology
of computer animation.
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I mean, he was always
thinking to the future.
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NARRATOR: And as
George presided over
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this burgeoning corporate
empire as commander-in-chief,
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his wife, Marcia,
now retired from her
film editing career,
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had settled into her role
as a first lady of sorts.
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MARCIA: As the company grew,
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George wanted to have
a Board of Directors
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and he was
Chairman of the Board,
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he made me the Vice Chairman
of the Board.
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I worked on the ranch,
I did the interior design work,
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the architectural design,
and I was doing everything.
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NARRATOR: And under Marcia's
benevolent reign,
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Lucasfilm became
more than just a company.
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The company referred to itself,
as all of us did,
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the Lucasfilm family.
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She was the family of Lucasfilm.
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She was the heart.
The, you know,
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"Let's all get together
for Thanksgiving meal."
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I started giving
all our employees
Christmas gifts every year
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and having a Christmas party,
and having a
Fourth of July party.
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DUNHAM: She made sure
people were happy
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and that's why it was a family.
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Everybody will tell you that.
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NARRATOR: And what
everyone also knew
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was that George Lucas had
one more Star Wars film to make
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and this time he was
holding the purse strings.
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He can start
running his own budgets
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and begin to figure out
how can he save money
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or allocate resources
in a different way.
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So, going into Jedi,
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um, because of the cost
overruns on Empire,
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Lucas wants it to be shot
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on a much tighter,
stricter schedule.
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NARRATOR: And since George
would now be effectively
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footing the bill himself,
he set the budget at...
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50,000.
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Thirty million dollars.
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NARRATOR: Which sounds
like a lot, but...
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It's the same initially
as... as Empire,
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though it's several years later,
so it oughta be more,
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but by...with inflation,
it's actually a little bit less.
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-[GROWLS]
-C-3PO: [SCREAMS]
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-[CRASHES]
-[GROWLS]
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NARRATOR: Beholden to
a relatively modest budget,
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George would be
holding a tight leash.
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But before George and the team
could work on the script,
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there was one potentially
very expensive problem
that needed resolving.
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Harrison Ford wasn't signed.
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KAZANJIAN: I just
said to George,
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"Why isn't he
in the third one?"
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"Well, he's not in the third one
'cause he didn't want to do it."
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It wasn't that
George didn't want him,
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he wasn't contracted
to be in the third.
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That's why
he was killed off in Empire.
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He was put in carbon freezing.
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NARRATOR: With a key character
in suspended animation,
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Howard decided it was essential
to press the defrost button.
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So Howard Kazanjian,
he called Harrison Ford's agent
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and, apparently, uh,
the agent was out of town,
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but his son was working
for the agency...
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And I needed
to negotiate his deal
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and David and I
negotiated his fee.
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And made it a really
good deal for the company...
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I went to George,
he said, "Okay,
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"we'll write him in."
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NARRATOR: But when
Ford's agent returned
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to hear about the deal...
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And when Phil
came back from vacation
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he called me and he said,
"You cheated my son."
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He said, "You talked my son
into a certain fee."
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And I said, "No,
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"that...that's the going...
That's what we're paying.
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"Period. End of subject."
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NARRATOR: And what they
were paying wasn't half bad.
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Look, they made good money.
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They had terrific back ends.
Those pictures paid off.
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NARRATOR: So,
with this rogue hero on board,
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George could confidently
proceed developing the story.
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George Lucas
writes an outline early on
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and they were doing design work
off of the outline.
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They were doing pre-production
work off of the outline.
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They were doing scouting.
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Howard Kazanjian
finally says, like,
"You have to give me a script."
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So George finally sits down
and he writes the first draft
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well into pre-production.
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The original story is that
Leia learns that there are
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two Death Stars
that are under construction
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and she leads a mission
to investigate and, if possible,
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destroy these Death Stars.
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NARRATOR: Marcia Lucas
believed the only thing
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that needed to be blown up
was the script.
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Marcia didn't care
for it too much.
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And she would say,
"George, this scene is shit!"
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And, of course, we went back
and redid it again.
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We shall double our efforts.
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NARRATOR: Oh,
that's fantastic advice.
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What a handsome, young devil
if I do say so myself.
[CLEARS THROAT]
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Looking for new ideas,
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George turned
to a trusted friend for help.
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Then they bring in
Lawrence Kasdan.
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NARRATOR: The writer
ofThe Empire Strikes Back.
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MORTON: So, Kasdan comes in
and does a rewrite.
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George then rewrites Kasdan.
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Kasdan rewrites George.
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As these conversations
are going on, they kinda drift
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back to the idea
of doing the Death Star again.
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And then, eventually,
they come up with
a half finished Death Star.
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NARRATOR: This was all
starting to sound
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more like return of the...
Death Star.
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Lucas even acknowledges it
several times.
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"Yes, we're repeating ourselves,
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"but basically,
I can't think of anything else
that's really gonna work."
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NARRATOR: Don't worry,
they never really did.
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It's another Death Star.
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I wish that were
the case, Major,
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-this is Starkiller Base.
-[CROWD EXCLAIMS]
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NARRATOR: That's another story.
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As for this one,
unlike the dark tones
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and adult themes
ofEmpire Strikes Back...
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George wanted to take Jediback
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to the nine-year-old audience.
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More likeStar Wars.
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-[SPEAKS GIBBERISH]
-[HIGH-PITCH BEEPING, BUZZING]
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NARRATOR: George knew
that small children
were big business.
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And so, even without
a fully-formed story...
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He was obsessed
with introducing the Ewoks.
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[SPEAKING GIBBERISH]
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He thought they were
gonna sell millions of toys.
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[SPEAKS GIBBERISH]
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Having the license
for Star Warswas really like
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having a license to print money.
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You can see dollar signs.
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[CASH REGISTER CHINGS]
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He repurposes a storyline
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from one of his
original drafts ofStar Wars.
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The adventurers
land on a forest planet
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inhabited by Wookiees.
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NARRATOR:
But co-pilot Chewbacca
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had set the bar high
for Wookiees.
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The Wookiees
were too sophisticated.
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NARRATOR: Lucas decided
he needed
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a new species
no one would take seriously.
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Joe Johnston and Phil Tippett
worked on designs.
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TIPPETT: I made some stuff
that was kind of
like rat people.
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And then I made some things
that were kinda like
Neanderthal men with, like,
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big mouths and sharp teeth
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because in the, you know,
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the idea was that they were,
uh...cannibals.
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Wait. [EXHALES SHARPLY]
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NARRATOR: Leaving Phil Tippett
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to create
some cuddly cannibals,
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George got his arms around
the next major challenge.
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For some reason George
needed a stand in,
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a stooge to direct
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because he didn't want to
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or he couldn't
for whatever reason.
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George has to find
a new director.
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NARRATOR: Unwilling to direct
the nextStar Wars movie...
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George has to find
a new director.
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Question becomes why not
bring back Irvin Kershner?
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NARRATOR: Kershner had helmed
the second film,
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but wasn't interested
in another turn
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in the director's chair.
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He didn't want to be
an employee of Star Wars.
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He wanted to go do another...
You know, his own projects.
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NARRATOR: Ironically,
George Lucas had the power
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to do his own projects,
but had lost the desire.
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He didn't want to direct anymore
and I kept telling him,
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"George, you're a good director.
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"George, you're
a great director."
[CHUCKLES]
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NARRATOR: Star Wars
had Lucas made for life,
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but also scarred for life.
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CHRISTIAN: You know,
it's agony for George.
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The pain that he went through
on the first one,
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it's hard to remove all of that.
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I'm not always so sure
that he wants to direct.
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George was not happy
and thrilled to be making
motion pictures...
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with the big crews,
the talent, the actors.
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NARRATOR: George
needed a compliant
and competent director
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who would do his bidding.
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A safe pair of hands
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or he could just ask
David Lynch.
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George had seen a number
of David Lynch's pictures.
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NARRATOR: If Lynch
was the wildcard,
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on the other side
of the Atlantic was a man
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who was the American auteur's
total opposite.
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Richard Marquand
was a British director.
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He had worked for the BBC.
He started in documentaries.
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KAZANJIAN: And we saw
Eye of the Needle
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while he was still in
post production and mixing it
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and we liked it very, very much.
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And it really came down
to two people.
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David Lynch
was running neck-and-neck
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with Richard Marquand.
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NARRATOR: Only George Lucas
could separate them.
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So, he made the call.
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KAZANJIAN: "Let's go
with David Lynch
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"and you call
Richard Marquand right away
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"because I don't want him
to hear it through
the grapevine."
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And I didn't.
I called David Lynch first
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and David Lynch
thanked me and said "Yes."
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And the very next day
David Lynch called me back
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and he declined.
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Mostly because he thought
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George would be
looking over his shoulder.
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NARRATOR: Lynch didn't like
the sound of the deal,
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but he also didn't like
the sound ofStar Wars.
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Well, I heard
he didn't like Johnny Williams.
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I mean, in my opinion,
Johnny Williams
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is one of the finest
composers we have.
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Now, is...is it loud?
Now, Ben Burtt will tell you
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that Johnny Williams' music
covers up a lot of his sound.
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All right.
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NARRATOR: So, Howard Kazanjian
knew what he had to do next.
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And I called Richard Marquand
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and that's how we settled
on Richard Marquand.
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[UPBEAT EXCITING MUSIC]
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NARRATOR: With the director
locked in,
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back at Skywalker Ranch,
George and Lawrence Kasdan
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continued to go back and forth
on the script,
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even though
they weren't yet sure
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-exactly what they'd need.
-TIPPETT: George said,
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"Pull a crew together and make
a bunch of space aliens."
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NARRATOR: So, Lucas
called in Hollywood's
preeminent puppet master.
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He was very specific
about space aliens.
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NARRATOR: Phil and his team set
about creating new species.
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"Space aliens, you know?"
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NARRATOR: Dozens
of new creatures
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for George
to mix and match from.
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Creating whole new characters
on the fly.
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Late at night come,
like, nine o'clock at night
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or something,
George would show up
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in the workshop and play
with the different characters.
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Then he'd pick things out.
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"What's that one?"
And go, like,
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"This yellow thing
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"with long legs
is gonna be a singer
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"and this little blue thing
is gonna play the piano.
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"What's that one?"
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He said, "Oh,
that's Admiral Ackbar."
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NARRATOR: Oh, but not
Ackbar as you know him.
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First one they plucked
off the shelf to be the Admiral
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was a character Ree-Yees.
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And because he had
the three eyes,
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you could never give him
really good eye focus.
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You know, when he looked
right into the lens.
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"So, which one of my three eyes
is really looking at ya?"
[CHUCKLES] You know?
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[LOW GROWLING]
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I said, "So, who is that
that we're working on here?"
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And Phil just said...
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Oh, that's a calamari man.
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NARRATOR: Now he
would be Admiral Ackbar.
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Just like, "Well, you know,
there's that. Done. Next."
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It's a trap. [CHUCKLES]
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NARRATOR: While this
trademark menagerie
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drew inspiration
from everything,
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from cephalopods to reptiles,
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there was one creature
whose origins
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were surprisingly human.
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At the beginning,
there was no real direction.
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He just wanted to see
what we'd come up with.
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NARRATOR: A corpulent
gangster villain,
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Jabba the Hutt began life
as sketches by Phil Tippett.
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TIPPETT: I asked him
if there was an actor
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that you could cast
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to play Jabba,
who would that be?
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And he said,
"Hmm, Sydney Greenstreet."
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NARRATOR: Sydney Greenstreet
had played
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larger-than-life characters
through Hollywood's Golden Era.
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And that was like the thing
that just, like, lit up my mind.
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NARRATOR: He could
never have imagined
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that his legacy
would include this.
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This very fat,
slug-like creature.
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I love the reveal
of Jabba the Hutt
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with Princess Leia
sitting there on her chain.
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-HAN: Where's Leia?
-LEIA: I'm here.
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[SPEAKS ALIEN LANGUAGE]
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I just love it when you cut
to that big monster slug.
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RALSTON: The Jabba puppet
was huge.
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There were a lot
of puppeteers crammed in there.
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[PERSON STRAINING, PANTING]
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You know, it was
a difficult thing to operate.
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NARRATOR: Although creating
a character may have been hard,
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sometimes naming one is as easy
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as grabbing
a few late- night drinks.
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TIPPETT: We were
at a Mexican restaurant
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and we were getting ready
to go and I was,
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you know, my shoes were untied
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and I was gonna go,
"Oh, before we go,
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"I've got to tie
my 'suelacious'."
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And it was like,
"I mean, shoe laces."
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And that... But that's what
we called it.
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[CHUCKLING] You know,
and then George would take that
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and go, "Yeah, that's okay."
You know, and run with it.
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[LAUGHS]
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NARRATOR: Meanwhile,
over in London,
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as pre-production ramped up
it was time
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for Richard Marquand
to slip into high gear.
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It was the gig of a lifetime
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for this modestly
successful director.
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And an opportunity
not to be squandered.
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But Richard, um...
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would show up about...
after lunch
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in pre-production.
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NARRATOR: And, so,
with a part-time director
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and a partly done script,
we should give credit
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to Howard Kazanjian
for holding it all together.
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Kazanjian was making up
a schedule and a budget
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and all the other paperwork
kind of off this...
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with no pages. With no script.
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And I was looking at the sets.
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I was telling
the art department,
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"Yes, no." Or "Higher, lower."
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Which is so
extraordinarily unusual.
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NARRATOR: Unusual in that
it was really a job
for the director.
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And I felt
very awkward about that
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because he's the director.
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NARRATOR: Howard was already
stepping in for his director,
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but he wasn't sure Marquand
could actually handle the job.
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And, so, I called George
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when he said I'm...
he's coming in
for the first two weeks
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and I said,
"You better pack
for the full shoot."
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[UPBEAT MUSIC]
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NARRATOR: Arriving in London
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with a bigger suitcase
than planned,
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George and his new director
moved ever closer
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to the impending start
of shooting,
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but they still had plenty
of casting to do.
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For example,
who would play the Emperor
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because it couldn't be
the same actor
from the last movie.
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[CHIMP SQUEAKS]
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NARRATOR: The rise
of the Emperor Palpatine
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was a changing of the guard.
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Darth Vader who was
the main villain in Empire,
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ends up kind of dropping back
to a henchman character.
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NARRATOR: Meaning a bigger role
for whoever played his boss.
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Rise, my friend.
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NARRATOR: George knew exactly
what he was looking for
in an Emperor
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and there was
something about this man.
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I got a call from my agent,
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you know, not that unusual
in itself.
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Um, and he said,
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"George Lucas
would like to meet you."
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NARRATOR: Theatre actor
Ian McDiarmid
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was summoned
to Elstree Studios.
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And George Lucas
and Richard Marquand were there.
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Well, it was fairly pleasant,
you know,
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"Hello? How are you?
What are you up to?"
All of that.
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And that lasted
for about ten minutes.
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And then George said,
"Thank you very much.
Great to meet you."
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And as I was going away
out of the door, I heard...
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George denies this,
but I know it's true,
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[CHUCKLES] I heard
George say to Richard,
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"Hey, great nose."
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I thought, "Oh, well...
that's optimistic, isn't it?"
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But I didn't think
anything would come of it.
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You know, ten minutes
and not even talking about
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the part, the film,
no script whatever.
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So I got in that car
and went back home,
447
00:19:28,689 --> 00:19:31,257
and this is all true,
the phone was ringing
as I got in...
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[TELEPHONE RINGING]
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And I picked it up
and it was my agent again.
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He said, "Great news.
You've got the part."
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I said, "[STAMMERS]
What? Uh... What part?"
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And, uh, he said,
"Oh, he's called
the Emperor of the Universe."
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So, I said, "Oh, right.
Well, we'll be doing it then."
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NARRATOR: He began doing it
when shooting
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forReturn of the Jedi
started in early 1982
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and like its predecessors,
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it walked
straight into a storm.
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Jedibegan filming with
the sandstorm sequence
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where all of the characters
came back together
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after the escape from Jabba.
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Lucas was not happy
with a lot of what
Marquand was doing.
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NARRATOR: Early rushes
proved as tough to watch
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as they had been to shoot.
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DUNHAM: I mean, there's sand
blowing everywhere.
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You can't hear anything.
You can't see anything.
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The... the dialogue is trash.
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It's... [LAUGHS]
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What are we doing here?
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NARRATOR: And so, it was
George who stepped in
and yelled, "Cut!"
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before scrapping
the scene all together.
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MORTON: Marquand
got overwhelmed pretty quickly.
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Like, he'd never made anything
the size of Jedi.
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He was so out of his depth.
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NARRATOR: Lucas had intervened
and averted disaster,
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but at the expense
of his director's confidence.
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He'd come and say,
"We're going to do that there.
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"We're going to do that there."
478
00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:03,305
[EVIL LAUGHTER ECHOES]
479
00:21:03,349 --> 00:21:05,829
A close up of Carrie
would end up as a two-shot
480
00:21:05,873 --> 00:21:08,179
favoring Harrison
because Harrison would go up
481
00:21:08,223 --> 00:21:11,052
and say, "You know, Marquand,
we need to this, this and this."
482
00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:12,706
I don't take pleasure
in saying on it.
483
00:21:12,749 --> 00:21:16,797
I take some relief in...
in admitting it.
484
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,539
NARRATOR: Howard's warning
had proved prescient.
485
00:21:19,582 --> 00:21:23,717
George was on the set every day
for Return of the Jedi.
486
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,936
NARRATOR: George was back
and now stuck doing
487
00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:28,678
exactly what he tried
so hard to avoid.
488
00:21:28,722 --> 00:21:32,029
Then George chose
to do the second unit himself
489
00:21:32,073 --> 00:21:33,988
so it was a good backup.
490
00:21:34,031 --> 00:21:36,382
NARRATOR: For this movie,
George was leaving
nothing to chance.
491
00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:39,036
DANIELS: He had
no idea what to do
492
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,125
and you saw this
on a daily basis.
493
00:21:41,169 --> 00:21:43,214
And, so, with nobody in charge,
494
00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:46,261
or one-and-a-half
people in charge,
there was a lack of focus.
495
00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:48,481
There was no sense of...
496
00:21:48,524 --> 00:21:50,613
the right person
being in the right job.
497
00:21:50,657 --> 00:21:53,399
NARRATOR: George Lucas's
hand-picked director
498
00:21:53,442 --> 00:21:55,836
had lost the confidence
of his cast.
499
00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:58,795
Daniels felt very much
like, uh, he was dismissed
500
00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:00,319
and ignored by Marquand.
501
00:22:00,362 --> 00:22:03,409
And I need a laugh
from you at that part.
502
00:22:03,452 --> 00:22:04,671
A big, mean laugh.
503
00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:08,327
It's like this man
is a complete fake
504
00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:11,721
and the more
his "fakerism", new word,
505
00:22:11,765 --> 00:22:14,028
came to the fore, the more...
506
00:22:15,072 --> 00:22:17,379
pathetically bullying he became.
507
00:22:17,423 --> 00:22:20,556
He tried to pick on people.
He tried to pick on me.
I didn't like that.
508
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,123
NARRATOR: This was a problem
509
00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:25,344
no amount of cute, furry
creatures was going to fix.
510
00:22:25,387 --> 00:22:27,694
He was dealing with...
[STAMMERS]
511
00:22:27,737 --> 00:22:29,870
a director
who couldn't direct, frankly.
512
00:22:29,913 --> 00:22:30,958
Or shouldn't direct.
513
00:22:31,001 --> 00:22:33,961
Then he sees him
after that line.
514
00:22:34,004 --> 00:22:35,484
Ding!
515
00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:37,486
NARRATOR: Needing to steady
the ship himself,
516
00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:41,708
George turned in desperation
to one of his most
trusted lieutenants.
517
00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:45,407
CHRISTIAN: George called me
and said, "What are you doing?"
518
00:22:45,451 --> 00:22:47,583
He said, "Would you have
about six weeks?
519
00:22:47,627 --> 00:22:51,413
"Could you come?"
Because he was doing second unit
520
00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:52,936
on Return of the Jedi
521
00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:55,983
and he wanted to spend
more time with Richard Marquand.
522
00:22:56,026 --> 00:22:57,941
So he said,
"Can you come and take over?"
523
00:22:57,985 --> 00:23:01,467
I went on as second unit
director and took over.
524
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:04,687
George was, I believe,
gonna be there for a few weeks.
He stayed for the whole thing
525
00:23:04,731 --> 00:23:07,386
and I think that had
a marked effect on his life.
526
00:23:07,429 --> 00:23:09,910
[SOMBER MUSIC]
527
00:23:09,953 --> 00:23:13,087
Lucas wants to make sure
he's in control of that...
of that sequel
528
00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:15,045
and in control of the direction
of where it goes
529
00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:17,961
and he's preoccupied
with Skywalker Ranch.
530
00:23:18,005 --> 00:23:20,094
The question could be asked,
"Where does family
531
00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:23,532
"and free time
fit in to all of this?"
532
00:23:23,576 --> 00:23:26,056
NARRATOR:
Unfortunately for Marcia...
533
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,318
nowhere.
534
00:23:27,362 --> 00:23:29,451
Marcia liked to do things.
535
00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:31,975
When it came to the Oscars,
she'd say,
536
00:23:32,019 --> 00:23:33,629
"George doesn't wanna go."
537
00:23:33,673 --> 00:23:35,718
"I wanna go to the opera."
538
00:23:35,762 --> 00:23:38,155
He doesn't wanna go
to the opera.
539
00:23:38,199 --> 00:23:40,593
He was not a very social person
540
00:23:40,636 --> 00:23:43,770
and I was a very,
you know, social person
541
00:23:43,813 --> 00:23:45,249
and I loved to go to parties.
542
00:23:45,293 --> 00:23:48,209
She'd say, "George,
I want to invite people in."
543
00:23:48,252 --> 00:23:51,473
He doesn't want to invite
people in because he's...
544
00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:54,476
working all the time.
He's a workaholic.
545
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,566
He always had the next thing
that he was working on.
546
00:23:57,610 --> 00:23:59,307
Uh, and for poor Marcia,
547
00:23:59,350 --> 00:24:01,048
I think film was always
the other woman.
548
00:24:01,091 --> 00:24:04,573
NARRATOR: Also for Marcia,
well, we weren't there,
549
00:24:04,617 --> 00:24:07,533
but some people say
there was an affair
550
00:24:07,576 --> 00:24:09,796
and others say there wasn't.
551
00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:13,930
About two-thirds
to three-fourths
of the way through Empire,
552
00:24:13,974 --> 00:24:16,411
she met this guy who was
553
00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:18,631
the head
of the stained glass shop
554
00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,807
that was working on the Ranch.
555
00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:22,678
Tom Rodrigues.
556
00:24:22,722 --> 00:24:27,030
And it was pretty much obvious
to a lot of the people,
557
00:24:27,074 --> 00:24:28,554
you know, working on the scene,
558
00:24:28,597 --> 00:24:31,121
there was something
going on there.
559
00:24:33,689 --> 00:24:35,561
NARRATOR: George
was waging a battle
560
00:24:35,604 --> 00:24:38,302
in a war for Lucasfilm
and his destiny.
561
00:24:38,346 --> 00:24:40,914
Willing to sacrifice it all
for victory.
562
00:24:40,957 --> 00:24:42,959
However, as the shoot
in England continued,
563
00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:45,527
others were engaged
in battles of their own.
564
00:24:45,571 --> 00:24:47,573
Albeit, slightly smaller ones.
565
00:24:47,616 --> 00:24:49,662
Take Caroline Blakiston,
for example.
566
00:24:49,705 --> 00:24:52,012
She was waging a war of nerves.
567
00:24:52,055 --> 00:24:54,536
I was just dreadfully,
dreadfully nervous
568
00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:57,147
'cause I... I think
I... I forgot a line.
569
00:24:57,191 --> 00:24:58,671
I couldn't remember what to say
570
00:24:58,714 --> 00:25:01,456
and somebody else read it
and I just stood there.
571
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,589
It was a, sort of, nightmare.
572
00:25:03,632 --> 00:25:05,373
NARRATOR: But it wasn't
Richard Marquand
573
00:25:05,416 --> 00:25:07,549
who'd coax the performance
out of Caroline.
574
00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:10,857
During a break between shots,
Harrison Ford came over...
575
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:12,380
Well, look at you.
576
00:25:12,423 --> 00:25:14,556
And he came and sat down
on the floor with me
577
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,515
and, of course,
made me feel much better.
578
00:25:16,558 --> 00:25:19,648
He couldn't have been nicer.
He could not have been kinder.
579
00:25:19,692 --> 00:25:21,345
But most important of all...
580
00:25:21,389 --> 00:25:23,565
It gave me
a little feeling of...
581
00:25:23,609 --> 00:25:25,262
"I'm going to survive this."
582
00:25:25,306 --> 00:25:27,264
NARRATOR: And not only
did Caroline survive,
583
00:25:27,308 --> 00:25:29,876
but she delivered
one of the most quoted lines
584
00:25:29,919 --> 00:25:31,225
in the movie.
585
00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:35,272
Many Bothans died
to bring us this information.
586
00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:37,579
NARRATOR: Cementing
the legacy of the character
587
00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:39,538
for years to come.
588
00:25:39,581 --> 00:25:42,584
Also, Mon Mothma's entrance
marked the arrival
589
00:25:42,628 --> 00:25:44,368
of new visual effects
590
00:25:44,412 --> 00:25:46,762
including this early CGI.
591
00:25:46,806 --> 00:25:50,026
A subtle glimpse
of the franchise's future.
592
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:52,159
Now, speaking
of quotable lines...
593
00:25:52,202 --> 00:25:54,248
It's a trap!
594
00:25:54,291 --> 00:25:56,642
NARRATOR: The actor
inside Mon Mothma's
slightly balder counterpart,
595
00:25:56,685 --> 00:25:58,121
Admiral Ackbar,
596
00:25:58,165 --> 00:26:00,123
well, he went to battle, too...
597
00:26:00,167 --> 00:26:03,300
Concentrate all fire
on that Super Star Destroyer.
598
00:26:03,344 --> 00:26:05,738
NARRATOR:
...over the motivation
of the great General.
599
00:26:05,781 --> 00:26:07,740
Richard Marquand came over
and he said,
600
00:26:07,783 --> 00:26:11,613
"We just want to shoot
some filler things
to use for editing.
601
00:26:11,657 --> 00:26:13,397
"We've won the battle,
602
00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:14,834
"the Death Star is destroyed..."
603
00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:17,271
[ZAPPING, EXPLOSIONS]
604
00:26:17,314 --> 00:26:22,145
"We want you all
just to celebrate the fact
that we've won the battle."
605
00:26:22,189 --> 00:26:24,844
And I was just the right age
606
00:26:24,887 --> 00:26:30,806
that I came within a whisker
of getting drafted
to Vietnam myself.
607
00:26:30,850 --> 00:26:33,548
So I had very strong views
about the war
608
00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,637
even though, this was
a fantasy thing,
609
00:26:35,681 --> 00:26:38,727
I'd still sent X-wing fighters
610
00:26:38,771 --> 00:26:40,555
to their final fight.
611
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,470
[LASERS ZAPPING]
612
00:26:42,513 --> 00:26:46,517
I just let the...
the weight of the loss
613
00:26:46,561 --> 00:26:49,477
of all those people
sit on my shoulders
614
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,653
and it pushed me down
into my chair.
615
00:26:52,785 --> 00:26:56,876
But... Richard comes in
and he says,
616
00:26:56,919 --> 00:26:59,922
"I told you to jump up
and dance around
and celebrate."
617
00:27:01,489 --> 00:27:04,623
And I said, "If you want someone
to jump up and celebrate,
618
00:27:04,666 --> 00:27:07,843
"you're gonna have to put
somebody else in this costume
and shoot them in it."
619
00:27:07,887 --> 00:27:10,019
NARRATOR: Tim Rose
stuck to his guns
620
00:27:10,063 --> 00:27:12,021
and gave a performance
to be proud of.
621
00:27:12,065 --> 00:27:14,807
But the battle
was nowhere near won.
622
00:27:14,850 --> 00:27:18,549
In April of 1982,
principal photography
was wrapped in London,
623
00:27:18,593 --> 00:27:21,640
but some of the bigger scenes
still remained to be shot.
624
00:27:21,683 --> 00:27:26,296
Lucas wanted
more convenient California
and Arizona locations
625
00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:28,690
partly to shorten the leash
on his director
626
00:27:28,734 --> 00:27:30,823
and avoid a repeat
of the previous film
627
00:27:30,866 --> 00:27:33,739
where he'd lost touch
with Irvin Kershner
628
00:27:33,782 --> 00:27:36,263
onEmpire's overseas sets.
629
00:27:36,306 --> 00:27:40,310
Changing locations was easy,
but saving money was not.
630
00:27:40,354 --> 00:27:42,704
The barge cost over
a half-a-million dollars.
631
00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:45,098
NARRATOR: Because one thing
Lucas couldn't change now
632
00:27:45,141 --> 00:27:46,534
was his director.
633
00:27:46,577 --> 00:27:49,624
KAZANJIAN: With the barge
and some other sets,
634
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:53,367
Richard Marquand
could not visualize
635
00:27:53,410 --> 00:27:55,238
certain sections of it
636
00:27:55,282 --> 00:27:58,415
or the visual effects
that would be done later.
637
00:27:58,459 --> 00:28:00,330
He couldn't put that in his mind
638
00:28:00,374 --> 00:28:02,593
and direct people
639
00:28:02,637 --> 00:28:05,727
without seeing the entire set.
640
00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:08,469
That's why we built
the entire set
641
00:28:08,512 --> 00:28:12,473
which was, at that time,
the largest set ever built
642
00:28:12,516 --> 00:28:13,735
in California.
643
00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,563
[UPBEAT MUSIC]
644
00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:17,608
NARRATOR: Despite
its immense presence,
645
00:28:17,652 --> 00:28:21,874
Jabba's sail barge enjoyed
only a brief maiden voyage.
646
00:28:21,917 --> 00:28:26,313
The full barge
is only in one time...
647
00:28:26,356 --> 00:28:30,012
one shot.
All the others are ILM.
648
00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:32,362
NARRATOR: And that one shot
left a gaping...
649
00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:35,235
-[SCREAMS]
-hole in the budget.
650
00:28:35,278 --> 00:28:38,412
But it was that other one shot
during the sail barge sequence
651
00:28:38,455 --> 00:28:40,631
that had
Billy Dee Williams concerned.
652
00:28:40,675 --> 00:28:43,809
The squibs. I shot into my foot.
653
00:28:43,852 --> 00:28:47,813
And Harrison,
he was so caught up
in what he was doing
654
00:28:47,856 --> 00:28:51,381
that he was...
he was really busy acting
655
00:28:51,425 --> 00:28:54,123
and, uh, so he didn't realize
that I was hurt
656
00:28:54,167 --> 00:28:56,473
at that particular moment.
657
00:28:56,517 --> 00:28:58,867
NARRATOR: But the real pain
was behind the scenes
658
00:28:58,911 --> 00:29:01,087
and taking an unseen toll.
659
00:29:01,130 --> 00:29:03,916
TIPPETT: I was
on the set with George.
660
00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:05,613
We were walking to work
in the morning
661
00:29:05,656 --> 00:29:09,095
and one time I went like,
"So, how's it going?"
662
00:29:09,138 --> 00:29:11,793
And he goes, like, "You know,
I'd rather be watching TV."
663
00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:13,534
[LAUGHS] You know?
664
00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:15,362
NARRATOR: With the challenges
of the desert behind them,
665
00:29:15,405 --> 00:29:18,278
the production moved
to the California forests.
666
00:29:18,321 --> 00:29:21,194
Destined to become Endor,
home of the Ewoks
667
00:29:21,237 --> 00:29:23,892
where George soon discovered
that big problems
668
00:29:23,936 --> 00:29:26,155
sometimes come
in small packages.
669
00:29:26,199 --> 00:29:28,505
[BEEPING WORRYINGLY]
670
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:30,899
So Kenny Baker,
who played R2-D2,
671
00:29:30,943 --> 00:29:32,771
also played an Ewok
called Paploo...
672
00:29:32,814 --> 00:29:35,164
[SPEAKS GIBBERISH]
673
00:29:35,208 --> 00:29:37,036
TENUTO: Originally,
Paploo's character
674
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:38,820
was supposed to have
a larger role in the film
675
00:29:38,864 --> 00:29:42,737
and it was Kenny's Ewok
that was supposed
to meet Princess Leia.
676
00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:44,870
I promise I won't hurt you.
Now come here.
677
00:29:44,913 --> 00:29:46,523
[GROWLS] No!
678
00:29:46,567 --> 00:29:50,658
The problem was,
when we needed him,
679
00:29:50,701 --> 00:29:53,792
he didn't show up.
So we sent four or five people
680
00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:55,750
looking for him
and they came back
681
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,622
and they told me
that he was drunk,
682
00:29:58,666 --> 00:30:00,624
passed out by the lake.
683
00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:02,975
[WHINES]
684
00:30:03,018 --> 00:30:07,240
Well, George
heard that off-screen
and George immediately said,
685
00:30:07,283 --> 00:30:09,938
"Put in Davis."
686
00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:13,289
NARRATOR: Davis was
up-and-coming actor
Warwick Davis.
687
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:14,813
One of a raft of little people
688
00:30:14,856 --> 00:30:17,337
cast to play
the diminutive tribe.
689
00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:20,470
MORTON: Warwick Davis,
who was a young kid,
690
00:30:20,514 --> 00:30:23,909
um, fills in and is so adorable
in the outfit
691
00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:27,347
that they decide to keep him
playing that role
for the rest of the film.
692
00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:28,739
-[GRUNTS]
-Hmm?
693
00:30:29,218 --> 00:30:30,480
[SNIFFS]
694
00:30:30,524 --> 00:30:33,092
You cannot say a bad word
about an Ewok ever.
695
00:30:33,135 --> 00:30:35,398
Especially in public. Hmm.
696
00:30:35,442 --> 00:30:37,748
NARRATOR: Making the Ewoks work
along with everything else
697
00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:40,839
now depended on the edit
and that was just another thing
698
00:30:40,882 --> 00:30:43,232
George was strangely
unable to control.
699
00:30:43,276 --> 00:30:45,104
Paul should cut this.
700
00:30:45,147 --> 00:30:49,064
He cut Star Wars
and he cut Empire.
701
00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:50,805
MORTON: But when
Richard Marquand was hired,
702
00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:52,589
he asked for two approvals.
703
00:30:52,633 --> 00:30:54,156
He wanted his own
cinematographer
704
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,941
and he wanted his own editor
705
00:30:55,984 --> 00:30:58,813
and his editor
was a guy named Sean Barton.
706
00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:00,597
They used Sean Barton through
707
00:31:00,641 --> 00:31:03,644
Richard Marquand's
director's cut.
708
00:31:03,687 --> 00:31:06,473
The director's cut was
not well received at all.
709
00:31:06,516 --> 00:31:09,780
NARRATOR: And so,
just like onA New Hope,
710
00:31:09,824 --> 00:31:13,088
George would need to save
this movie in post.
711
00:31:13,132 --> 00:31:16,004
However, this time
Marcia wouldn't be at hers.
712
00:31:16,048 --> 00:31:18,920
It was always Marcia Lucas
who was that one person
713
00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:22,924
or that voice
that George saved till the end
714
00:31:22,968 --> 00:31:24,839
because he trusted her opinion.
715
00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:27,711
NARRATOR: But for the first
time in their relationship,
716
00:31:27,755 --> 00:31:30,366
Marcia wouldn't be there
for George.
717
00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:32,847
I was burned out. I was fried.
718
00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,328
My brain was fried. I was fried.
719
00:31:35,371 --> 00:31:36,807
I was probably sleep deprived.
720
00:31:36,851 --> 00:31:41,247
I mean, I really gave up...
my career to be a mother.
721
00:31:41,290 --> 00:31:45,686
NARRATOR: And Marcia
had said the words
no husband wants to hear.
722
00:31:45,729 --> 00:31:48,167
I wanted a time out, you know?
723
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:51,692
I needed to...
I needed to find myself again.
724
00:31:51,735 --> 00:31:54,434
[DRAMATIC MUSIC]
725
00:31:54,477 --> 00:31:57,045
NARRATOR: Deep into
post production
onReturn of the Jedi,
726
00:31:57,089 --> 00:32:00,657
George Lucas's world
was spinning out of control.
727
00:32:00,701 --> 00:32:03,486
His marriage of 13 years
was unraveling,
728
00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:05,706
but so, too, was his film.
729
00:32:05,749 --> 00:32:07,142
Its budget creeping up
730
00:32:07,186 --> 00:32:09,710
and its schedule
falling behind.
731
00:32:10,798 --> 00:32:12,756
Towards the horrific end
of Jedi,
732
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,368
heading as fast as we could
towards the finish line.
733
00:32:15,411 --> 00:32:18,371
Running out of time,
we have a hell of a lot
of work to do.
734
00:32:18,414 --> 00:32:20,939
George decided to recut
the film himself.
735
00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:22,505
NARRATOR: And for
Richard Marquand,
736
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:24,899
the director's cut
would also be...
737
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:26,118
his last cut.
738
00:32:26,161 --> 00:32:27,641
I'm sure he had good qualities,
739
00:32:27,684 --> 00:32:29,643
he just didn't
bring them to the set.
740
00:32:31,166 --> 00:32:34,126
NARRATOR: From here on out
it would all be down to George
741
00:32:34,169 --> 00:32:36,476
and a now-bewildered ILM team.
742
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:39,044
The news was kind of devastating
743
00:32:39,087 --> 00:32:41,350
and I had to regroup
and figure out
744
00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:44,310
how we can reshoot a lot
of stuff as quickly as possible.
745
00:32:44,353 --> 00:32:45,746
[DRAMATIC MUSIC]
746
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:50,011
Every morning George would start
747
00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:52,579
in the cutting room with me
748
00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:55,277
and then he'd leave
the cutting room
749
00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:57,584
and then he'd
go to his other job,
750
00:32:57,627 --> 00:33:00,935
which is building a studio
and a ranch and everything else
751
00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:03,111
and then he'd go across
the parking lot to ILM
752
00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:05,374
and he'd look at dailies.
753
00:33:05,418 --> 00:33:10,205
And there was a very different
energy to him and to the place.
754
00:33:10,249 --> 00:33:12,686
I guess we probably didn't have
as much access to him
755
00:33:12,729 --> 00:33:15,080
as we used to have.
We were a little...
756
00:33:15,123 --> 00:33:18,474
uh, flying blind, sort of,
in a weird way.
757
00:33:20,085 --> 00:33:23,784
I was talking to him
in the hallway at ILM
758
00:33:23,827 --> 00:33:28,441
and he just seemed diminished.
759
00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:31,835
And, like, kind of hunched over
and exhausted.
760
00:33:32,793 --> 00:33:35,013
It's like, "Oh..." You know?
761
00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:38,407
"This is...This is taking
its toll on this guy."
762
00:33:38,451 --> 00:33:41,845
But also at the same time,
there was something going on
we didn't know about...
763
00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:46,154
and that was George
was different
764
00:33:46,198 --> 00:33:50,289
because he was
in the middle of a divorce.
765
00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:53,640
NARRATOR: For George,
Marcia's time out
766
00:33:53,683 --> 00:33:55,294
was not an option.
767
00:33:55,337 --> 00:33:57,861
George said,
"There'll be no time out.
768
00:33:57,905 --> 00:34:00,647
"If you want a time out,
I want a divorce."
769
00:34:03,215 --> 00:34:05,739
He... He brought it up.
He said, "I want the divorce."
770
00:34:05,782 --> 00:34:08,220
NARRATOR: George Lucas
had it all
771
00:34:08,263 --> 00:34:10,744
and achieved everything
he'd dreamed of.
772
00:34:10,787 --> 00:34:13,007
[POLLOCK ECHOING]
Own your own business.
773
00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:15,053
Control your own fate.
774
00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:17,403
NARRATOR: But it came
at a terrible cost.
775
00:34:17,446 --> 00:34:19,318
MARCIA: I saw George
the happiest
776
00:34:19,361 --> 00:34:22,103
when he was
building those buildings.
When he was building the ranch.
777
00:34:22,147 --> 00:34:27,195
Walking around the buildings
when they were being built,
he loved that
778
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,418
because of the small business
that his father had built
from nothing.
779
00:34:32,461 --> 00:34:34,985
George always said to me,
"I've got a company now.
780
00:34:35,029 --> 00:34:36,378
"I have a company.
781
00:34:36,422 --> 00:34:38,424
"This is my company
782
00:34:38,467 --> 00:34:41,992
"and I will never,
ever sell my company.
783
00:34:42,036 --> 00:34:44,952
"I'm a success.
I made all this money.
784
00:34:44,995 --> 00:34:47,824
"I will never,
ever give up my company."
785
00:34:47,868 --> 00:34:51,306
NARRATOR: But he would
give up Marcia.
786
00:34:51,350 --> 00:34:54,788
It was definitely
the end of an era.
787
00:34:54,831 --> 00:34:58,966
NARRATOR: And the impact
was felt far beyond
this little family.
788
00:34:59,009 --> 00:35:00,750
KAZANJIAN:
They were inseparable
789
00:35:00,794 --> 00:35:02,970
and when Marcia
and George divorced,
790
00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:05,581
we all hurt.
791
00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:08,106
NARRATOR: Marcia Lucas
had helped buildStar Wars
792
00:35:08,149 --> 00:35:10,804
with George Lucas
from the ground up.
793
00:35:10,847 --> 00:35:14,982
It was the end of Camelot
in some respects.
794
00:35:15,025 --> 00:35:17,071
NARRATOR: And now
with both his marriage
795
00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,552
and the edit in turmoil...
796
00:35:19,595 --> 00:35:23,251
Their marriage is breaking up
during post production on...
797
00:35:23,295 --> 00:35:24,774
on Jedi.
798
00:35:24,818 --> 00:35:26,950
NARRATOR: George would
need a miracle...
799
00:35:27,864 --> 00:35:30,171
-and then...
-And then...
800
00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:32,913
NARRATOR: George did
something extraordinary.
801
00:35:32,956 --> 00:35:35,481
He pulled me in to cut
Return of the Jedi.
802
00:35:35,524 --> 00:35:38,571
NARRATOR: And the miracle
was he still had Marcia
803
00:35:38,614 --> 00:35:40,225
this one last time.
804
00:35:40,268 --> 00:35:41,530
I was saying good-bye
to my marriage.
805
00:35:41,574 --> 00:35:43,141
I was saying good-bye
to my career.
806
00:35:43,184 --> 00:35:45,578
Because people always ask,
"Don't you miss...
807
00:35:45,621 --> 00:35:47,319
"Don't you miss
the cutting room?"
808
00:35:47,362 --> 00:35:50,583
Of course I missed it.
I loved what I did.
809
00:35:50,626 --> 00:35:53,063
I loved being a film editor.
810
00:35:53,107 --> 00:35:55,283
NARRATOR: But Marcia
wasn't just any film editor.
811
00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:56,502
She understood stories.
812
00:35:56,545 --> 00:35:58,808
She understood what was
in George's mind.
813
00:35:58,852 --> 00:36:00,419
She understood her husband.
814
00:36:00,462 --> 00:36:03,161
NARRATOR: And so
Marcia Lucas got to work.
815
00:36:03,204 --> 00:36:05,728
He gave me
all the emotional scenes.
816
00:36:05,772 --> 00:36:08,905
Everything that had emotion,
George wanted me to cut.
817
00:36:08,949 --> 00:36:11,995
Because the director
had directed certain scenes
818
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,215
where Luke Skywalker
was very angry
819
00:36:14,259 --> 00:36:15,999
when Obi-Wan appears to him,
820
00:36:16,043 --> 00:36:17,958
you know,
as a ghost-like figure.
821
00:36:18,001 --> 00:36:21,657
That's not the way of a Jedi.
So I had to recut the scene
822
00:36:21,701 --> 00:36:25,008
and I had to find the softest
reading I could find.
823
00:36:25,052 --> 00:36:27,533
And of course,
the British director was having
824
00:36:27,576 --> 00:36:31,276
a British editor
cut all the anger.
825
00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:33,321
I knew Mark had to be
uncomfortable with that.
826
00:36:33,365 --> 00:36:36,237
And I knew there'd be
softer readings in the outtakes
827
00:36:36,281 --> 00:36:40,154
and so I had to soften
Luke's performance
throughout the whole movie.
828
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,460
DUNHAM: And there wasn't
829
00:36:41,503 --> 00:36:45,203
a emotional or dramatic scene
830
00:36:45,246 --> 00:36:47,596
that didn't pass
through Marcia's hands.
831
00:36:48,728 --> 00:36:50,251
NARRATOR: AndJedi
had no shortage
832
00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:53,385
of emotional baggage
that needed careful unpacking.
833
00:36:53,428 --> 00:36:54,647
My son.
834
00:36:56,649 --> 00:36:58,912
-Leave me.
-So, it fell to Marcia...
835
00:36:58,955 --> 00:37:00,174
-No.
-to stop
836
00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:02,089
Return of the Jedi's
death scenes
837
00:37:02,132 --> 00:37:03,438
from dying themselves.
838
00:37:03,482 --> 00:37:04,700
I was the queen of death.
839
00:37:04,744 --> 00:37:06,093
I used to go
into the editing room and say,
840
00:37:06,136 --> 00:37:07,834
"Who's dying today?"
841
00:37:07,877 --> 00:37:10,228
NARRATOR: Vader's de-helmeted
denouement was crucial,
842
00:37:10,271 --> 00:37:11,707
but first there was
an important
843
00:37:11,751 --> 00:37:13,927
near-death experience
to negotiate.
844
00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:16,495
[ZAPPING, SCREAMS]
845
00:37:16,538 --> 00:37:17,974
I wanted the audience
to feel like,
846
00:37:18,018 --> 00:37:20,629
"When is Vader going to stop him
from killing his son?"
847
00:37:20,673 --> 00:37:24,633
I said to George in dailies,
"Well, in a close-up,
848
00:37:24,677 --> 00:37:27,767
"I don't see Darth Vader
making the decision
849
00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:30,335
"that he's gonna do this."
850
00:37:30,378 --> 00:37:33,903
The next day George said,
"Get the second unit ready."
851
00:37:33,947 --> 00:37:36,558
We went back and George
and I shot close-ups
852
00:37:36,602 --> 00:37:41,041
of Darth Vader
making that decision
853
00:37:41,084 --> 00:37:42,477
to save his son.
854
00:37:42,521 --> 00:37:44,262
NARRATOR: Those extra shots
gave Marcia scope
855
00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:46,176
to reimagine the cut...
856
00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:47,656
So she did.
857
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:49,441
So, I milked it a little.
858
00:37:49,484 --> 00:37:50,833
[SCREAMS]
859
00:37:50,877 --> 00:37:54,315
You have paid the price
for your lack of vision.
860
00:37:54,359 --> 00:37:56,186
-[ZAPPING]
-[GRUNTS]
861
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:59,451
Is he really gonna let
The Emperor kill his son?
862
00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:00,974
[ZAPPING]
863
00:38:01,931 --> 00:38:04,456
Father, please! [GRUNTS]
864
00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:06,980
-You know, Luke's screaming.
-[SCREAMING]
865
00:38:07,023 --> 00:38:09,417
And The Emperor's shooting him
and Vader's looking
866
00:38:09,461 --> 00:38:12,464
back and forth and finally
he picks the Emperor up,
867
00:38:12,507 --> 00:38:16,511
boom! Takes him over
and throws him down the cannon.
868
00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:18,600
NARRATOR: And such
a monumental death
869
00:38:18,644 --> 00:38:21,037
required a monumental reaction.
870
00:38:21,081 --> 00:38:23,039
[SCREAMING]
871
00:38:23,083 --> 00:38:26,913
I said, "Don't you think
there oughta be some
nuclear reaction?"
872
00:38:26,956 --> 00:38:28,480
[SCREAMING CONTINUES]
873
00:38:28,523 --> 00:38:30,482
'Cause it was just, like,
pick him up, throw him over,
874
00:38:30,525 --> 00:38:32,788
-drop him...
-[SCREAMING CONTINUES]
875
00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:35,182
That needed to be
an... an event.
876
00:38:35,225 --> 00:38:37,053
[WHOOSHES]
877
00:38:37,097 --> 00:38:40,187
And George said,
"Yeah, I'm gonna get
ILM to work on that."
878
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:42,232
[WHOOSHING]
879
00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:46,498
-Father...
-NARRATOR: But the main event
880
00:38:46,541 --> 00:38:48,326
was to be more understated.
881
00:38:49,152 --> 00:38:50,545
I won't leave you.
882
00:38:50,589 --> 00:38:52,808
It's a very emotional scene.
883
00:38:52,852 --> 00:38:55,289
NARRATOR: And it might've been
very different
884
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,160
were it not for Marcia.
885
00:38:57,204 --> 00:38:59,162
The way it was originally
cut was, you know,
886
00:38:59,206 --> 00:39:01,121
"I know you're--
I know there's good in you."
887
00:39:01,164 --> 00:39:03,166
"Yeah, you're right."
Boom, "I'm dead."
888
00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:04,994
And what I had to do was
889
00:39:05,038 --> 00:39:06,822
put in some pregnant moments.
890
00:39:07,475 --> 00:39:08,911
Tell your sister...
891
00:39:10,609 --> 00:39:13,046
you were right.
892
00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:16,397
I tried to make
this scene more emotional.
893
00:39:16,441 --> 00:39:18,007
[DRAMATIC MUSIC]
894
00:39:20,009 --> 00:39:23,361
NARRATOR: But while
Marcia's deft recuts
ratcheted up the tension,
895
00:39:23,404 --> 00:39:27,277
they unfortunately
had the same effect
on the special effects team.
896
00:39:27,321 --> 00:39:28,801
Jediwas a real grind.
897
00:39:31,499 --> 00:39:33,283
And it was like,
"Get these shots out!"
898
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:37,723
NARRATOR: Just like
its predecessors,
899
00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:40,465
the final scene ofJedi
was coming down to the wire.
900
00:39:40,508 --> 00:39:42,423
Another battle within a battle.
901
00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:43,946
RALSTON: For the
space battle sequence,
902
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:46,862
I did a really funky version
of the whole sequence
903
00:39:46,906 --> 00:39:50,213
based on the storyboards
using Chroma key
904
00:39:50,257 --> 00:39:52,999
and ships on sticks, you know,
905
00:39:53,042 --> 00:39:54,435
shooting the models we had.
906
00:39:54,479 --> 00:39:57,438
It was so funky,
but it was the sequence
907
00:39:57,482 --> 00:40:00,789
and we sent it to George
to take a look at,
908
00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:02,748
to get his blessing,
and he loved it.
909
00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:04,663
Intensify forward firepower!
910
00:40:04,706 --> 00:40:06,447
[SCREAMS]
911
00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:07,579
Too late!
912
00:40:12,932 --> 00:40:14,847
NARRATOR: Like a
Super Star Destroyer,
913
00:40:14,890 --> 00:40:18,067
Return of the Jedi
had come to an explosive end.
914
00:40:19,547 --> 00:40:23,290
We still got it done
and it's still a laugh riot.
915
00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:25,466
It still has Ewoks in it.
916
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:26,728
[LAUGHS] And, uh...
917
00:40:26,772 --> 00:40:27,990
[SPEAKS GIBBERISH]
918
00:40:28,034 --> 00:40:29,731
You know, it was
an exhausting movie to do.
919
00:40:29,775 --> 00:40:30,993
We were all wiped out.
920
00:40:32,212 --> 00:40:33,866
NARRATOR: Amidst
the wreckage of it all,
921
00:40:33,909 --> 00:40:37,347
was a movie that was loved
by almost everybody
922
00:40:37,391 --> 00:40:39,437
-at the time.
-That was good.
923
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,003
It was really, really good.
924
00:40:41,047 --> 00:40:45,051
NARRATOR: And is beloved
by almost everybody today.
925
00:40:45,094 --> 00:40:48,446
And it end at one of my most
horrible moments, really.
926
00:40:48,489 --> 00:40:50,796
Shameful is the final shot
927
00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:55,104
of 3PO dancing with Ewoks.
928
00:40:55,148 --> 00:40:57,019
[SOFTLY GROANS]
Shouldn't have happened.
929
00:40:57,063 --> 00:40:58,456
[INHALES SHARPLY,
LIGHTLY GROANS]
930
00:40:58,499 --> 00:41:00,588
NARRATOR: Financially,
George's experimenting
931
00:41:00,632 --> 00:41:03,461
in self-funding
had well and truly worked.
932
00:41:03,504 --> 00:41:06,246
Return of the Jedicost
about $32.5 million,
933
00:41:06,289 --> 00:41:10,555
but returned $475 million
at the box office.
934
00:41:10,598 --> 00:41:12,731
NARRATOR: When it came
to personal finances,
935
00:41:12,774 --> 00:41:15,516
George had some
big decisions to make.
936
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,301
So when we were getting
divorced I said to George,
937
00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:21,043
I said, "I don't...
I'm not gonna be around
938
00:41:21,087 --> 00:41:22,741
"to make movies with you
and you're gonna
939
00:41:22,784 --> 00:41:24,525
"go on to make movies."
940
00:41:24,569 --> 00:41:28,181
I said, "But I would take
a small percentage
of Lucasfilm."
941
00:41:28,224 --> 00:41:29,443
"You can't have anything.
942
00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:32,272
"No, I will give you nothing
in Lucasfilm."
943
00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:35,884
And Star Wars
was worth nothing.
944
00:41:35,928 --> 00:41:37,756
The movies were over.
They were done.
945
00:41:37,799 --> 00:41:38,974
It wasn't worth anything.
946
00:41:39,801 --> 00:41:40,976
And then my lawyer said,
947
00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:43,762
"Well... doesn't Lucasfilm
have properties?
948
00:41:43,805 --> 00:41:48,418
"ILM and...and Egg Company
and all these...
949
00:41:48,462 --> 00:41:52,553
"He had some properties."
I said, "Yes, he has...
he has you know,
950
00:41:52,597 --> 00:41:54,555
"real estate."
951
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,559
I got a percentage
of...of some of that.
952
00:41:58,603 --> 00:42:01,562
And I heard on the grapevine
through the years
953
00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:04,086
that George will go out
and tell people
954
00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:07,089
that he couldn't, um,
he had to let go...
955
00:42:07,133 --> 00:42:10,832
he had to let go of people
because he had
to pay his divorce.
956
00:42:12,181 --> 00:42:14,662
NARRATOR: The settlement
George made with Marcia
957
00:42:14,706 --> 00:42:18,013
drew a firm line under
the ex-couple's
business affairs.
958
00:42:18,057 --> 00:42:20,581
I do know that George told me
959
00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:22,931
if it wasn't for the settlement,
960
00:42:22,975 --> 00:42:26,718
he would've have had
to have sold the Ranch.
961
00:42:26,761 --> 00:42:28,502
NARRATOR: But it was
their personal lives
962
00:42:28,546 --> 00:42:29,895
that hurt George the most.
963
00:42:29,938 --> 00:42:31,766
He just thinks I had an affair.
964
00:42:31,810 --> 00:42:34,073
He thinks I left him
for another man.
965
00:42:34,116 --> 00:42:35,944
I never had an affair.
966
00:42:35,988 --> 00:42:39,078
The other man
didn't have anything to do
with my decision to leave.
967
00:42:39,121 --> 00:42:41,428
He wanted me gone forever...
968
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,345
with no contact.
969
00:42:45,388 --> 00:42:49,479
NARRATOR: George and Marcia's
love of each other
and film making
970
00:42:49,523 --> 00:42:53,179
led to an extraordinary period
in Hollywood.
971
00:42:53,222 --> 00:42:54,963
And what they created
was much more
972
00:42:55,007 --> 00:42:57,879
than just amazingly
popular movies.
973
00:42:57,923 --> 00:43:00,360
George, obviously,
was Lucasfilm,
974
00:43:00,403 --> 00:43:03,450
Skywalker, the creator.
975
00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:06,714
The guy who paid our bills.
976
00:43:06,758 --> 00:43:10,892
The guy who made
the company what it was,
977
00:43:10,936 --> 00:43:15,984
but Marcia was really
the shining bright light
978
00:43:16,028 --> 00:43:17,725
of Lucasfilm.
979
00:43:17,769 --> 00:43:20,989
Everybody knew her.
Everybody loved her.
980
00:43:21,033 --> 00:43:24,079
NARRATOR: And no one
more than George Lucas himself.
981
00:43:24,123 --> 00:43:25,907
KAZANJIAN: He was
very, very upset
982
00:43:25,951 --> 00:43:29,607
about the love
of his life leaving.
983
00:43:29,650 --> 00:43:33,219
And I know at one time,
George said to me,
984
00:43:33,262 --> 00:43:36,222
"I still love her
and I would take her back."
985
00:43:36,265 --> 00:43:38,833
[SOMBER MUSIC]
986
00:43:38,877 --> 00:43:40,618
MARCIA: Unfortunately
when you get married
987
00:43:40,661 --> 00:43:43,403
you always believe
you're gonna be the old people
988
00:43:43,446 --> 00:43:45,057
sitting on the park bench.
989
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,102
You're gonna be walking through
the park holding hands.
990
00:43:47,146 --> 00:43:50,062
You know, in your 80s.
We didn't get there.
991
00:43:50,105 --> 00:43:54,501
But the 20 years we spent
together were wonderful years.
992
00:43:54,544 --> 00:43:55,937
Look what we made.
993
00:43:55,981 --> 00:43:59,462
And I would just be sad
to think that I wouldn't...
994
00:43:59,506 --> 00:44:02,291
I mean, I probably
never will talk...
995
00:44:02,335 --> 00:44:04,903
He could very well
die tomorrow. I mean,
I don't know.
996
00:44:04,946 --> 00:44:06,165
I don't know
if I'll ever see him
997
00:44:06,208 --> 00:44:08,210
or speak to him
again in this lifetime.
998
00:44:09,951 --> 00:44:11,300
But I would just be sad.
999
00:44:15,957 --> 00:44:19,744
Suddenly, George's world
is upside down
1000
00:44:19,787 --> 00:44:22,485
and he's not
gonna make movies for a while.
1001
00:44:22,529 --> 00:44:24,226
MORTON: He was just burned out.
1002
00:44:24,270 --> 00:44:26,707
So he had pretty much said
he was gonna retire.
1003
00:44:27,229 --> 00:44:28,883
And he's out.
1004
00:44:28,927 --> 00:44:31,973
[ECHOES] Out. Out. Out. Out.
1005
00:44:33,148 --> 00:44:34,149
[DRAMATIC MUSIC FLOURISH]
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