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It's the Roswell crash landing's
biggest, boldest, and most disturbing
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Did the military carry out alien
autopsies?
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Now, all the evidence will be tested,
and the truth will be revealed.
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Roswell. The Perk.
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and most controversial UFO conspiracy of
all time.
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The truth shrouded in the shadows.
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Until now.
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How are we rolling?
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For the first time ever, the infamous
Roswell eyewitnesses will be put to the
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test.
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What were you doing in Roswell, New
Mexico in July of 1947?
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The most advanced lie detection software
ever made.
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will determine the ultimate truth.
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We've been able to explain them as
hoaxes.
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There were four bodies, not humans.
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Can you imagine having undeniable proof
of extraterrestrial visitation?
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How did he describe the craft?
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Moment by moment, a timeline of events
will emerge.
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Will the evidence aliens crash -landed
on Earth appear with us?
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This is rewriting the history book.
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This is going to change us forever.
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As a law enforcement officer, the
sheriff of Roswell, George Wilcox,
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is one of the most reliable witnesses to
the events that have taken place over
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the past nine days.
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In the eyes of the government, that
makes him a threat.
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He's not only seen the materials, but
he's heard the story of a crash -flying
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saucer.
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He's a loose end that needs to be tied
up. His opinion needs to be adjusted
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and silenced and quickly.
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Sheriff Wilcox has become a problem for
the military.
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He's not within their chain of command.
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He doesn't report to them. He's a
civilian that the people trust. They
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control him.
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Wilcox shares the story of what happens
next with his family.
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In 1991, his granddaughter, Barbara
Duggar, shares it with the world.
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When the incident happened, the military
police came.
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They were on him like you wouldn't
believe.
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Did the government threaten the life of
one of its own citizens if he told the
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truth?
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Now, over seven decades on from the
crash, the world's most advanced lie
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detection software can answer this
incendiary question.
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Not only we would be killed, but they
would get the rest of the family.
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Our artificial intelligence looks at a
video clip, analyzes the micro
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-expressions in the person's face, the
intonation of his or her voice, and
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predicts whether the person seen in the
video is telling the truth or not.
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Will the advanced software reveal a
government... prepared to go to horrific
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lengths to silence a witness or a family
myth never meant for the
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public's ears it's vital to know if this
is true if it's true
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it tells us how far the military was
willing to go to cover this up
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this is not just your average everyday
rancher that they're threatening this
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is the most top and authoritative law
enforcement official in the whole town.
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Was Barbara Duggar telling the truth?
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They told George that if we ever told
anything about this incident, talked
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it in any way, that not only we would be
killed, but they would get the rest of
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the family.
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The AI predicts she was.
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Sheriff Wilcox told her his life was
threatened.
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by U .S. government officials.
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It's not that I wanted this to be true
because it's actually quite sad to think
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that there came a time when our military
threatened adults and children with
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their very lives in graphical ways,
terrifying them.
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The sheriff's story isn't the only one
of government intimidation, and all of
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them were dismissed as lies.
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Everyone in the town of Roswell and the
outlying ranches is suspect of
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knowing too much or having seen too
much. And the military will resort to
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of the most extreme measures in
preventing them from telling or reliving
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their experiences.
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Among those on the military's list to
keep quiet is local firefighter Dan
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On July 7, Sheriff Wilcox sent Dwyer to
crash site 2, where he witnesses the
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flying saucer and the bodies of aliens.
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He's chased off the site by members of
the military.
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earning him a place on their list of
targets.
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Dan Dwyer is a key witness.
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This is someone who saw not just debris,
not just a flying saucer, if I can even
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say that, but aliens too. He talked
about little people. He talked about
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being already dead.
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So this elevates the story to a new
level. But also, he's... Pretty much the
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first person who talks about the cover
-up in terms of the military at the
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shutting everything down.
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Threat. Almost brutality. People being
pushed away.
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People being told, you didn't see
anything. If you speak out, you're going
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prison.
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And he talked in particular about a red
-headed captain who he said was...
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screaming orders at people, making all
sorts of threats. He's really one of the
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villains of this piece.
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The terrorizing actions taken against
him three days later are witnessed by
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12 -year -old daughter, Frankie Rowe.
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He had this club or stick or whatever it
was, and he was beating it with his
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hand.
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And he said, you know, this is a big
desert out here.
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We can just take you out in the middle
of this desert and no one will ever find
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your body.
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He said, you'll be nothing but bones and
nobody will ever know what happened to
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you.
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How better to get the attention of a
mother and father than to say, we will
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your children.
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It is a truly disturbing threat.
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But is it credible?
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Why would a child make up a story like
that? It
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wouldn't be in her best interest.
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That's shocking.
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Threatening someone with their life?
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Come on.
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That you'll be nothing but bones and
nobody will ever know what happened to
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The AI suggests Roe's claim of death
threats toward her father is false.
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He said, you'll be nothing but bones and
nobody will ever know what happened to
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you.
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So what does this mean for the other
parts of Frankie Roe's testimony?
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Is she lying about the military even
coming to her house?
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I know it happened.
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I knew it was real. The threats were
real.
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She's not lying.
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The military did come to the house to
speak with her father.
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I mean, the memory can do funny things,
particularly with younger people. We
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know this from psychology. When people
have a traumatic experience or a
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experience, it can jumble your memories.
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Though Frankie Rose claims about her
father's experience appear unreliable.
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Those made by Roswell witness number
one, Mack Brazel, are not.
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July 10, 1947.
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Marks the rancher's third day in a
military detention cell.
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He has been detained, deprived of food
and water.
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They ask him the same questions.
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over and over again.
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Their mission is to get him to totally
retract the flying saucer story
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that he knows to be accurate.
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They had shut him up in a room and
wouldn't let him out.
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They had told him to shut up because it
was important to our country and it was
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a patriotic thing to do.
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He was very discouraged and upset about
the way they had treated him.
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No doubt the techniques used on Mack
Brazel were learned by many of them
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during the previous war.
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The only difference is they are dealing
with one of their own, an American
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citizen.
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It's almost four days since Mac Brazel
told reporter Frank Joyce and his boss,
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George Roberts, about the otherworldly
debris he found on the ranch.
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The interview is in the can.
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These journalists have the scoop of the
century, the story of a lifetime.
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And if it gets out there, it's game over
for the government.
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So the military now had to shut down the
press because the story, if it gets
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outside of Roswell, will shoot around
the world as fast as they could get
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it out.
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Matt Brazel's interview will tell the
whole world that a flying saucer did
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indeed crash in Roswell.
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That is, unless somebody puts a stop to
it.
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If the reporters from PGFL broadcast
that testimony of Mac
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Brazel, it would have been an immediate
culture shock.
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It would announce to the world that
there was wreckage from a crash -flying
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saucer.
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Mac Brazel's interview makes it
perfectly clear this was no weather
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He talks about this wreckage as being
like... Nothing on earth.
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The station's co -owner, George Roberts,
is discussing with reporter Frank Joyce
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how to make best use of the interview
when they claim to receive an
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call.
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Some person called it for wiping and
said, we understand that you have
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some information.
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And we want to assure you that if you
release it, it's very possible that your
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license could be in jeopardy.
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So you got the phone call from
Washington?
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Yes, yes.
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Suddenly, it's put on the line for him.
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The broadcasting license may be taken
away.
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Well, that is his lifeblood.
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Without that... There is no job. Without
that, it's game over. So suddenly,
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everything is in play, and they realize
we can't go ahead with this.
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If George Roberts' statement is true,
the government has turned to ever
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more malicious tactics.
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This will effectively prove that, yes,
there was government interference, and
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yes, They are trying to stop this story.
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We want to assure you that if you
release it, it's very possible that your
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license could be in jeopardy.
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Robert's claim is predicted to be true,
and the implications are serious.
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The idea that Washington would call and
threaten a news source.
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just because they would put out a story
is unprecedented.
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It just demonstrates, again, the level
of extreme measures
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that the military -slash -government
took in containing and silencing the
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We don't know the identity of the
mystery caller, but it was somebody very
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up.
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It was somebody almost certainly in
direct personal contact with President
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Truman and acting on the president's
authority.
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This was not something done on a whim.
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They embargoed. Yes, precisely.
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But this was a total plan down.
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I would say so. It certainly was as far
as we were concerned.
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To this day.
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Mack Brazel's interview recording has
never been found.
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It remains one of the most sought -after
missing pieces of the Roswell puzzle.
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It's the ultimate irony. They're on the
threshold of the greatest story of all
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time, and yet what's being threatened is
there'll be no stories again from you
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ever.
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With all he has seen, Brazel is still a
danger for the government, so he remains
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under lock and key at Roswell Army
Airfield.
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He is not going to be released from the
bay until they are sure he is compliant.
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By that compliance, Mack is subjected to
disturbing, mind -altering tactics.
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In an attempt to break him.
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Sleep deprivation is absolutely a
recognized form of torture.
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And it's an extremely effective
technique. What it does is it takes
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is fresh, strong -willed, determined.
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And it flips back 180 degrees, and what
you end up with is somebody confused,
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disorientated, and ultimately compliant.
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With Mac Brazel at his weakest, he is
told to make a phone call to the
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same KGFL reporter, Frank Joyce, he'd
already given the interview to.
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a phone call again. It's Brazil.
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And he is saying in a very clear voice,
you know, very loud,
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well, look, this story is, you know, we
haven't quite got this
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story right.
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They want to come over and talk to me.
So I said, okay, come over to the
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station.
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Mack offers to do a new interview.
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Will he stick to his story of seeing a
crashed flying saucer?
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To do so would require him to defy his
captors.
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Mack Brazel heads to local radio station
KGFL to issue a new
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statement about what he saw.
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But the man walking the street is far
from the familiar neighbor.
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Marion Strickland had known for years.
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They saw Max being escorted by two army
men, and I
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don't know whether he had handcuffs on
or not.
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The whole neighborhood was scandalized
that the army would treat people like
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that.
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There's Mac in between these two men,
being escorted by them, dazed, tired,
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broken in his spirit.
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He's pale. He looks disheveled. He looks
like he doesn't really understand
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what's going on.
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They saw Mac being escorted by two army
men.
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This testimony is really important
because if it's true, it establishes
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yes, Mack was in the custody of the
military. And it goes along with what he
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discloses as this kind of inquisition.
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The whole neighborhood was scandalized
that the Army would treat people like
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that.
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Marion's statement is predicted to be
true.
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So this is great because we have a third
-party witness who can now corroborate
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what Mack was saying.
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It's horrendous.
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But I'm still trying to figure out what
is the reason for them showing off their
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capture to the entire town?
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Is this a warning to others? Has he been
made an example, showcasing him and
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saying, hey, this is what's going to
happen to you if you don't do what we
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you?
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Mac Brazel makes his way to KGFL to
speak with reporter Frank Joyce.
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Finally, Mac is going to give a live on
-air interview about the whole
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incident.
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Joyce is thinking he's going to get the
story of the century, that he's going to
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get it from the very person who started
all this.
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Is the number one witness to the Roswell
crash finally ready to reveal to the
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world what he saw?
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Will he reveal the truth about the
incredible material that crashed in the
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desert?
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As they go live with the interview,
there's a sense that...
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Everybody in the town of Roswell is
listening.
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What comes out of Mac's mouth is the
government
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line that a weather balloon crashed on
the ranch and nothing more.
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Frank's dreams are shattered.
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I said, look, it's nothing at all like
or it's completely different from the
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story you told me the other day.
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Hearing the AI results on this will be
fascinating because it will support
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Frank's claims that the government did
force Mac to change the story.
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Frank Joyce has always been a central
figure for me in this story because
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he's... kind of the information gatherer
and voice of the people. He knew
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something was up.
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It's nothing at all like or it's
completely different from the story you
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the other day.
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The AI predicts that Frank Joyce's
statement is true.
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I'm really happy to hear that this is
true because Frank is one of those
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figures.
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in the Roswell event that we need to
rely on. We need his credibility because
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this is one of the first people that
Mack comes to. At this stage, it is
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clear that the fix is in.
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Mack Brazel has effectively drunk the
Kool -Aid.
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The government is actively controlling
the narrative and changing the story
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about what happened here.
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That is the appearance until Mac and
Joyce share a private moment when the
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goes off air.
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Once the interview is over and they're
packing up, Frank leans over to Mac and
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says, hey, what about the little green
man that you told us about in the last
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interview? And that's where he said,
yeah, only they weren't green.
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It indicates.
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He's admitting that he did actually see
bodies, and he's frustrated by the fact
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that the military won't let him
acknowledge that.
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There is much at stake with Frank
Joyce's testimony, even beyond the
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layperson, because he was a trusted
media reporter.
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And that's where he said, yeah, only
they weren't green.
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If the story turns out to be true, then
it implies that we are not alone
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and that this did in fact take place at
Roswell. And that's where he said,
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yeah, only they weren't green.
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This is also true.
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And that confirmation underlines that
Matt Brazel believed sharing his truth
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publicly.
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could cost him his life.
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Mack Brazel still makes sure that Frank
Joyce gets the final truth,
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that his word is still the last word.
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Despite changing his story to the
government's version of events,
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Mack Brazel's ordeal is not over.
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He's returned to his cell as the
government's all -out blitz on covering
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truth continues.
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Soon after Matt Brazel's interview, a
radio station out of El Paso, Texas,
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features General Roger Ramey.
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Ramey is the Army commander responsible
for orchestrating the dismissal of the
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crashed flying saucer report.
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He brought out the initial weather
balloon explanation, and now it's his
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wrap everything up, move it away like it
never happened.
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He's interviewed on an El Paso radio
program, and General Ramey
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reaffirms, The balloon explanation,
explaining away Roswell.
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To which the host then says, well, that
doesn't explain all the flying saucer
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sightings throughout the country.
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Isn't it true that they've been sighted
in every state throughout America?
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To which General Ramey then responds,
true, except for Kansas.
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which is a dry state.
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It's the first time the ridicule factor
has been introduced.
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So in other words, only people who
overdrink see such things.
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All of the government's efforts are
paying off.
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A situation that has radio presenter
Frank Joyce wondering what, if anything,
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Can he do about it?
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Publicly, Frank Joyce isn't saying
anything.
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But behind the scenes, he's a reporter.
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He's looking for facts. He's asking
questions.
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He's talking to people.
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To assure Frank Joyce's silence, they
don't threaten him any further.
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But they did what was so typical back at
that time.
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The military places him.
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in a mental hospital in Texas for a full
year.
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We're talking about a time when they
would resort to lobotomies,
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electric shock treatments.
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It was to put a permanent blemish on his
reputation and make sure that he was
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forever discredited.
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With Joyce out of the picture, the
assumption is the flying saucer incident
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officially dead just as fast as it was
born.
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The military effectively silences
everyone involved.
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The military, the civilian, the press,
and it all works.
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They have been able to shut down.
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The biggest story of the millennium.
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Or so they think.
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After playing the pat for the government
cover -up, intelligence officer Jesse
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Marcel returns to Roswell.
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He's determined to get to the truth of
what happened and clear his name.
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Jesse Marcel is in a bizarre situation.
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He is the one that went to the crash
site.
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He's the one who got his hands on the
debris and realized immediately this was
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something different.
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Possibly, almost probably, something
extraterrestrial.
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And yet here he is.
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the fall guy.
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Adding insult to injury, when Marcel was
in Texas, Captain Sheridan Cabot,
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his junior ranking officer, filed a
report supporting the weather balloon
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Marcel tries to push back and says, hey,
that's not what happened. I want you to
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rewrite that. Tell the true story.
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To which Cabot responds, if you don't
like it, take it up with Washington.
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It's clear Major Marcel's hands are
tied.
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But as his son recalls, the military's
position is one he refused to agree
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There's still a feeling that there's
something very unusual about this. There
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was not something in commonplace.
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Marcel's, to me, are at the center of
everything with the Roswell story.
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And any indication we can get to
substantiate the claims that have been
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by the Marcel's just further adds to the
credible, reliable testimony we have
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related to this incident.
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Your father didn't think it was a
weather balloon or a radar target?
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Never did.
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Jesse Marcel Jr.'s claim about his
father is predicted to be true.
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It's great to hear that this came back
as true because it's just another thing
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in a consistent line of testimony from
Jesse Marcel.
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Did he ever...
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Three months after the Roswell crash,
Marcel is transferred to Washington.
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Jesse Marcel is given a promotion.
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He is assigned to be one of the
intelligence specialists studying what
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Soviets are doing in relation to
development of their own nuclear
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He may be the fall guy, but he's
somebody that they need in the system
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site.
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Jesse is a strict military man.
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He is a career soldier, and he has to go
by what he is told and what his
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superiors tell him to do.
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Luckily for those searching for the
truth, there is one vital witness
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a military code.
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Around 24 hours have passed since
Roswell mortician Glenn Dennis visited
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base, seeing strange activity.
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He's returning to Hangar 84 because he's
concerned for a nurse friend who works
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in the hospital wing.
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Glenn Dennis' friend invited him to come
back to the base to meet him for lunch.
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She said she had something very
important that she wanted to tell him.
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This story is Glenn Dennis' most jaw
-dropping claim for why there was a
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cover -up.
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She looked like Beth Wendell.
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She said, you won't believe what
happened. She said, I've never seen
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good.
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I said, well, look, you're a nurse, and
I said, any time you're in this
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business, you're going to see a lot of
things.
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I said, well, I'll get used to it. She
said, no, this is what it is.
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Then, the words that come out of her
mouth next leave Dennis absolutely
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She said, this is something that no
one's ever said.
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48 hours after being removed from Hangar
84,
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Glenn Dennis returns to the airfield.
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He's arrived to speak with a friend, a
nurse in the hangar's hospital wing.
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It's a conversation Dennis recalls for
the shocking revelation conspiracy
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theorists have been trying to
corroborate for almost 30 years.
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There wasn't anyone around us because we
kind of had a table up on the side of
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the office by ourselves.
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She was hoping that I could hear it.
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Glenn has been outspoken for decades
about what he has seen. And, of course,
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testimony has been dismissed and
discredited by the experts.
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She said, you have to give me a sacred
oath that you will not ever mention my
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name or not. But she said, you can get
me in a lot of trouble.
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But I'm going to tell you, you don't
know where you got this human.
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I said, what do you mean by a sacred
oath? She said, I mean like cutting your
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arm off.
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Glenn asks the nurse, he said, what was
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going on? What did you see?
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But he said she was afraid to verbalize
anything. She's looking around and
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worried somebody's going to hear what
she's telling him.
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What happened?
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She was going into this other room to
pick up some supplies.
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This were the two doctors that were in
there, supposedly doing a preliminary
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autopsy on these bodies.
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The doctor said, you're not going
anywhere. We have to have some help.
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She said she never smelled anything so
horrible in her life.
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It was the most gruesome, most horrible
sight that she'd ever seen.
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The smell was almost devastating.
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Glenn's additional testimony from the
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nurse is that there was a terrible
stench coming from the body.
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And they were getting sick. They were
going into the hallway and then
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to complete their duties, complete their
work.
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The testimony of this nurse is of great
import because we have somebody who is
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witness to an actual autopsy. So that
means we have fatalities of a crash and
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descriptions of beings that are clearly
not human.
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The government is in possession of
extraterrestrial beings.
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This is something that no one's ever
said.
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The alien autopsy at Roswell has always
been one of the most contentious parts
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of the Roswell story.
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Reason for many skeptics to dismiss all
of Glenn Dennis' testimony.
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as untrue of all the
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many many witnesses with stories to tell
about Roswell his have been perhaps the
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ones that have been disbelieved most if
that testament is absolutely truthful
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then we are in new territory here we are
in this situation now where arguably
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the most extreme part of this whole tale
is validated
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she said this is something that no one's
ever said the two doctors
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that were in there supposedly doing a
preliminary autopsy on these bodies she
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said there was three bodies two of them
were very mangled can this testimony be
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trusted two of them were very mangled
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According to the AI, Glenn Dennis is
telling the truth.
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This is groundbreaking.
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It's going to take me a while to get my
head around this.
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It's fascinating.
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She said it was three bodies.
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It's very difficult to find the words to
react to right now.
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We've got a validated testimony that
there was an alien autopsy that took
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place, that there were bodies examined.
This is the first time and by
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far the most supported case with
evidence that this actually occurred.
444
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,920
With this statement being true, does it
mean his nightmare -inducing description
445
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,170
of what these creatures looked like is
also true.
446
00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:13,430
She said, you won't believe this, but
she said I made a diagram.
447
00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:24,130
Gerald Anderson, Elazar Benavidez, Happy
448
00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:30,270
Henderson, and a handful of other
eyewitnesses to the Roswell crash
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00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:33,490
getting a glimpse of actual aliens.
450
00:40:34,030 --> 00:40:35,370
They had four fingers.
451
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:43,940
But the mysterious nurse from Hangar 84
provides her friend Glenn Dennis with by
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00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:46,840
far the most detailed description of
them all.
453
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:52,760
A sketch based on an autopsy she was
forced into taking part in.
454
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:55,640
She drew me a diagram of the head.
455
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,320
She drew me a diagram of the arms and
hands.
456
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:04,080
And it was on the back of a prescription
pad where, you know, the nurses always
457
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carry the prescription pad.
458
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:11,900
And she drew me a diagram of an R,
because she said the anatomy from the
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00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:14,940
shoulder to here was real short, and her
arm was long here.
460
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,440
And there was only four fingers.
461
00:41:17,660 --> 00:41:19,940
There wasn't a thumb, only four fingers.
462
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:23,900
Little long, very fragile little hands.
463
00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:35,510
And she said the head was very much
larger than the body. It was out of
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00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:37,790
proportion for the size of the body of
the head.
465
00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:42,270
The eyes were very deeply set back and
set in.
466
00:41:42,490 --> 00:41:47,730
And she said the amazing thing about the
skulls that it wasn't like ours, that
467
00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:52,290
it was kind of like a newborn baby. They
were kind of flexible that, you know,
468
00:41:52,310 --> 00:41:56,350
the doctors couldn't move, that it
wasn't, you know, like a hard skull.
469
00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:04,720
If these claims about what the nerd saw
are also true, it will verify the
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00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:08,700
descriptions of our alien visitors once
and for all.
471
00:42:10,940 --> 00:42:15,520
I want to know what beings from another
world look like.
472
00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:22,360
And she said the heads were very much
larger than the body. It was out of
473
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,460
proportion for the size of the body's
head.
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00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:33,820
Glendennis is predicted to be telling
the truth, and it carries an enormous
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00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:36,620
weight. This is huge.
476
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,520
We now know what beings from another
world look like.
477
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:53,940
I think it was probably very dangerous
of the nurse to share with Glendennis
478
00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:55,580
about what she had seen.
479
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,780
The nurse is talking and the government
are there in force
480
00:43:04,780 --> 00:43:11,160
surveilling everything, watching,
listening, fully across who's saying
481
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,160
who.
482
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:25,040
That government operation in Roswell
will continue for months after the crash
483
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,860
and the wake from its activity.
484
00:43:28,490 --> 00:43:32,430
continues to reverberate through the
area today.
485
00:43:33,550 --> 00:43:37,190
In Roswell, there's a level of distrust.
486
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:39,930
People have been threatened.
487
00:43:40,210 --> 00:43:42,170
People have been silent.
488
00:43:42,830 --> 00:43:45,770
The media has been shut down.
489
00:43:47,710 --> 00:43:53,750
And there's this total level of paranoia
of who is
490
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:57,110
spying, who is informing.
491
00:43:57,950 --> 00:43:58,950
On who?
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00:44:02,090 --> 00:44:06,470
When you've got a secret as big as
Roswell, a secret doesn't stay a secret
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00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:07,470
forever.
494
00:44:08,370 --> 00:44:11,250
Next, on Roswell, the final verdict.
495
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:19,010
The greatest alien mystery has endured
for over 70 years, despite the
496
00:44:19,010 --> 00:44:21,270
claiming the case is closed.
497
00:44:21,830 --> 00:44:26,770
Are we on the brink of full disclosure
about visitors from outer space?
498
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:33,800
Only now, these new truths prove there
is still more to reveal.
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