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== Ripped & corrected by Kaitian ==
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(narrator) The bombing has stopped.
The fires are out.
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Europe lies in ruin.
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The dead are gone forever.
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The living carry on.
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Everywhere the same:
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no gas, no water,
no telephones, no trams.
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Time to count the cost.
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Time to start again.
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Springtime 1945.
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The end of the war in Central Europe.
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The end of the thousand-year Reich.
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Untidy. Messy.
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A time without pity.
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A time of brutality,
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rape.
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revenge.
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The Germans come back from the eastern
lands they'd tried to conquer,
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where some had lived for generations.
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They'd been bad masters.
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Now they pay the price.
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At least they are alive.
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The last hours of the Wehrmacht,
an army in dissolution.
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It has made war on the world.
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Now it saves what it can.
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(man #1) The mood of the German troops
who were surrendering was one of relief.
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They were happy, for the most part,
to surrender.
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They were interested in
getting to the American lines,
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in preference to surrendering
to the advancing Russian line.
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(narrator) A defeated army - but even
at the end, not always a broken one.
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The habits of a lifetime die hard.
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But at last, the blood-letting
is nearly over.
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(man #2) You had a European civil war
that began in 1914.
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There was a long armistice in that war.
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It finally comes to an end in 1945.
In the process of coming to the end,
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what happens is that
sweeping into Europe from the outside
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are the Russians and the Americans.
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And they meet at Torgau
on the Elbe River in May of 1945 -
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with the result that no European nation
wins the European civil war.
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The winners in the European Civil War
are outsiders:
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the Russians and the Americans -
most of all the Americans.
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So that you have
the physical control of the Continent
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in the hands of three outsiders -
because the British were a part of it,
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although they only contributed 25%
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of the whole total
to Eisenhower's Anglo-American force.
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Britain, the United States and Russia
now control the Continent,
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and they will decide what happens to it.
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(narrator) Neither Russians
nor Americans had wanted this war.
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Now comrades in arms,
they have won a great victory.
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When their generals meet,
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they can speak the language
of combat, of tanks and guns.
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But have they anything in common
except soldiers' talk?
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(man #1) The Russians were overjoyed -
but we also -
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and there was handshaking
and back-slapping
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and the exchange of souvenirs.
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I have a Russian watch
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and somebody's gold wedding band.
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And I lost my watch.
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I lost all sorts of insignia
from the uniform.
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All the Russians were very friendly.
A lot of them didn't speak English.
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Yet there were a few
that spoke beautiful English -
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educated at Oxford and Cambridge.
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I remember speaking to one,
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and I thought, "I'll never forget
your face as long as I live."
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"I'll never forget you."
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He was rather young. He was quite
young. And he was very pleasant.
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But you always kept feeling
that they really hated us,
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which I'm sure they did.
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(Ambrose)
The United States during the war
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had been propagandised
into seeing Russia as a democracy,
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a land of freedom lovers,
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with essentially broad social aims
about the same as those of the West -
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which seemed to make sense,
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since they were clearly an enemy
of the Nazis, as we were.
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Thus, it appeared
we had a great deal in common.
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Fellow delegates, the President
of the United States of America.
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(applause)
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(narrator) San Francisco, April 1945,
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a month before V-E Day:
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the United Nations Organization is born.
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The Charter of the United Nations,
which you are now signing,
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is a solid structure upon which
we can build for a better world.
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There was great hope in the world
that this would happen -
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that this was the last war.
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That the victors would now be able
to cooperate in peace,
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as they had in war,
to see to it that "the four policemen",
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Britain, France, the USSR
and the United States,
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sometimes "the five policemen"
with China thrown in,
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would be able to see to it
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that there would be
no more aggression in the world.
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That the war had meant something,
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that it had been fought for something,
rather than simply against Nazism.
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There is a time for making plans,
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and there is a time for action.
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The time for action is here, now!
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(newsreel) Nation by nation,
the delegates stand up
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for the great new charter
they hammered out.
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50 nations standing side by side,
unanimous for peace.
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Now final signing of the charter.
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China signing first, as the first nation
attacked in this war -
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Dr Wellington Koo's signature
topping the long list to come.
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For Russia, Ambassador Gromyko
commits his country also
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to the agreements and objectives decided
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after days and nights
of compromise and cooperation -
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four main agencies upon which
the world now puts its hope.
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(Ambrose) A better world
was going to emerge -
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a non-colonial world,
a world of self-determination.
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And this was felt very deeply in 1945,
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even by the most cynical
of the world's leaders.
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I suspect even Stalin felt it.
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I'm sure that Harry Truman felt it.
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And Winston Churchill felt it.
The common people everywhere felt it.
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(narrator) Germany remains,
even in defeat,
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the key to the problems of Europe.
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She started the war,
so her leaders have to be punished.
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The Germans themselves
have to be made to pay
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for the suffering they have caused.
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But they cannot pay
if Germany remains a heap of rubble,
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or if the country is dismembered,
as some wish.
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No one wants Germany to be strong again,
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yet no one can face the consequences
of keeping her a ruin forever.
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The answer: military control.
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Four armies of occupation
will supervise Germany's recovery.
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The watchful Allied generals
will build her up,
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but only in order to make good again
what she has destroyed.
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Germany can remain whole, united,
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but must never be able
to threaten the peace again.
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July 1945.
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The military administration
gets under way.
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American troops have occupied Leipzig,
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a city well within
the Russian zone of occupation.
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Now the Americans pull back -
west, across the River Elbe.
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The Russians move in.
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The Germans -
wary, watchful, nervously smiling -
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see their Russian conquerors
for the first time.
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When the fighting stopped,
the armies ended up here.
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But the occupation zones
had been decided earlier,
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at the Big Three conference at Yalta.
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There were to be four zones.
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The Russian zone
had the food and raw materials.
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The Western zones - American,
British, French - had the industry.
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For the occupation to work as intended,
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there would have to be trade
between them.
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Berlin, the capital, became the home
of the Allied Control Council -
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a testing ground
for the plan to work together.
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There's been some question as to
whether we weren't a little premature
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in fixing these zones until we saw
how the armies were going to come out.
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And there's some evidence to indicate
that our leaders underestimated
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the striking force of the Anglo-American
armies that invaded Europe,
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because when we adopted
the zonal positions
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we gave up Saxony and Thuringia.
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But on the other hand, we got back
good pieces of Western Austria,
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which had been occupied by the Soviets.
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The thing that stands out here
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is that the Russians
do let the West come into Berlin
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which is 80 miles within their zone.
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They didn't have to do it.
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They could have acted in Berlin
as they acted in Poland.
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They could have just said, "To hell
with you. We're not letting you in."
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"We're not going to live up to
the agreements we signed at Yalta."
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"We're going to hold on to Berlin -
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after all, we captured it, we paid
the cost. 100,000 Russians died."
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(narrator) Berlin, July 1945.
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The Big Three meet
for the Potsdam Conference.
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A crowded agenda
for this first meeting of victors.
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But for the West,
one question dominates:
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what does Stalin want?
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(man) At our first meetings,
Stalin put forward at once
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the demands
which the Russians maintained
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right through until the meeting
at Potsdam.
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What he wanted was basically to ensure
the security of his own country,
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regardless of the interests
of his neighbours.
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I'd seen a good deal of him
during the war.
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I went up to him and said, "This must be
a great satisfaction to you,
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after all the trials
that you've been through
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and the tragedy that you've
been through, to be here in Berlin."
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He looked at me and said,
"Tsar Alexander got to Paris."
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(narrator) The conference
takes no new decisions.
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It simply confirms what was decided
at Yalta six months before.
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What is new is the mood.
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Despite smiles for the newsreels,
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the Western leaders
and Stalin do not get on.
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(Ambrose) The feeling -
especially in the States,
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and most especially
with President Truman -
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was that Stalin was another Hitler.
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They didn't think,
"We made a great mistake in the war
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and backed the wrong side."
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They were perfectly clear that Hitler
was much the greater menace.
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Hitler had to be crushed,
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and the crushing of Hitler absolutely
depended upon the Red Army.
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(narrator) The Red Army
has 300 divisions in Europe.
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They are Stalin's trump card,
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the source of his strength
at the conference table.
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(K Ambrose) Suddenly you were faced
with the fact
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that the Americans were demobilising -
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or rather, at the time of Potsdam,
they were redeploying,
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pulling the army out of Europe,
taking it back to the States
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and getting it ready to send to Japan,
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as they expected
to have to invade the home islands
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for the final defeat of Japan.
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I was invited to see President Truman.
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And he shut all the doors
and told me in great secrecy
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the greatest secret of the war:
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the fact that the Americans
had an atomic bomb,
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which they were going to drop
very soon,
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and which he thought
would bring the war to an end.
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The reason for his decision
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was this would save thousands
upon thousands of Allied lives,
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which would otherwise be lost
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in a frightful massacre
on the shores of Japan itself.
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He warned me I might find myself
suddenly in the position
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with the Japanese having surrendered.
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Then I saw Churchill,
and Churchill told me the same thing.
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He said, "They will surrender.
What are you going to do about it?"
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I said, "You've only just told me.
I haven't thought."
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(narrator) August 1945.
The bomb is dropped.
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The Japanese do surrender.
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Their cities, too, have been laid waste,
their dreams of conquest shattered.
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They, too, are at the mercy
of their conqueror.
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They do not know what lies in store.
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(Ambrose) The Americans wanted Japan
rebuilt as quickly as possible,
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and a highly industrialised Japan
to emerge from the war -
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well within the American orbit.
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Truman decided at Potsdam
that no one would be allowed into Japan
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except for American troops.
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The Aussies weren't let in,
the British were not let in,
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and of course, most of all,
the Russians were not let in.
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(narrator) The conqueror comes -
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General MacArthur
with his American advisers,
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his American court.
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He will try and remake Japan
in America's image.
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(cheering)
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The prisoners are freed -
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US airmen who burnt
Japan's cities to the ground.
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They are the masters now.
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In Europe it is still summer.
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There are 700,000
concentration camp survivors.
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It may be enough to be alive,
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to be reunited,
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to have survived,
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to go home.
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Six million former slave labourers -
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Poles, Russians, Yugoslavs,
Estonians, Czechs, French -
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free to pick up
the threads of their lives,
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now that their German masters have gone.
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Prisoners of war
with no country to go to -
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deportees, Germans, soldiers, deserters.
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(man) It was very difficult
to tell the difference
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between a German refugee
and a Polish refugee
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in the part of Germany
that I was located in -
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I wouldn't know which were which.
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You could be pretty well sure,
253
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if they were humping things
on their back and carrying bags
254
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but hadn't got a truck,
they were almost certainly refugees.
255
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(narrator) Or perhaps SS guards
in stolen prison clothes.
256
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Some choose death.
257
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Himmler, lord of the SS, takes poison.
258
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Some surrender or are caught.
259
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Von Rundstedt, Hitler's general,
in full dress uniform.
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Admiral D�nitz,
last leader of the Third Reich.
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Albert Speer.
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What to do with these broken monsters?
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Stalin, at the Yalta Conference
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that was attended
by President Roosevelt and Mr Churchill,
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said that he thought 50,000
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of the German general staff and officers
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should be gathered together
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and summarily executed.
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He wasn't joking.
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President Roosevelt thought he was,
and said, "Well, perhaps 49,000."
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But Churchill said that he'd rather be
taken out into the garden
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and shot at once
than be a party to such an iniquity.
273
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But the Russians persisted
almost until the end
274
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in saying that
there should be no trial -
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these men were criminals
and should be immediately executed
276
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the moment they were caught.
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(narrator) There is a war crimes trial
at Nuremberg, Hitler's city.
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The charges: crimes against peace,
crimes against humanity,
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waging aggressive war.
280
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The defendants are all German.
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G�ring is called
to plead guilty or not guilty.
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(speaks German)
283
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(judge bangs gavel)
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(judge) I informed the court
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that defendants were not entitled
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to make a statement.
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You must plead guilty or not guilty.
288
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(speaks German)
289
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Rudolf Hess.
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Nein!
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(judge) That will be entered
as a plea of not guilty.
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(Shawcross) I think you'd say
the purpose was a twofold one.
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The first was retribution -
the punishment of people
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who had launched this war
against the world.
295
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And not only the war, but who,
296
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prior to the commencement
of the war and during it,
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had committed the most terrible crimes
against humanity -
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as, for instance, by exterminating
certainly seven million Jews.
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The second purpose of the trial
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was, as we hoped,
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to lay down the rules
of international law for the future -
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not only making
the waging of aggressive war unlawful,
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but, for the first time,
making the statesmen
304
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who led their countries
into an aggressive war
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personally responsible
for what they'd done.
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1 2 million men, women and children
have died thus -
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murdered in cold blood.
308
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Millions upon millions more today
mourn their fathers and their mothers,
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their husbands, their wives
and their children.
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I was rather surprised
at the appearance of the defendants.
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I thought, "Well, if I'd seen
these people in the Clapham omnibus,
312
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I wouldn't have looked at them twice."
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I think that was true of all of them,
314
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except perhaps Hess and Ribbentrop,
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who both looked
pretty miserable creatures,
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and G�ring, who looked
a very remarkable personality.
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He did dominate the court.
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He was the outstanding personality
in the court.
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And sometimes, in the course of a long
trial like that, lasting over 200 days,
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something would go wrong.
321
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You would ask a witness a question,
322
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and the answer you expected
would be "yes",
323
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and the witness would answer "no".
324
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At that point you had to be very careful
not to catch G�ring's eye.
325
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He was sitting at the corner
of the front row.
326
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If you glanced across at him
or caught his eye
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when there was an incident like that,
328
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he would raise his eyebrow and shake
his head in a rather smiling way,
329
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,753
and it would be very difficult
not to smile back.
330
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(narrator) G�ring cheats the gallows
with a cyanide pill.
331
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The rest are hanged,
or imprisoned, or set free.
332
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They have brought
their revolution to Germany,
333
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,913
and death to Europe.
334
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,468
Their mad adventure over,
335
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,758
now they pay their reckoning
for Hitler's Reich.
336
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,829
The British come back to Asia
in triumph.
337
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An empty victory -
338
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,473
India's no longer docile.
339
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,348
Two million of her troops
fought for Britain in Britain's war.
340
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,830
Now they want their own country
to be free.
341
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,913
His Majesty's African troops,
they want freedom, too.
342
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,912
Malaya, Burma.
343
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:52,990
Britain is too weak to hold them,
even if she wants to.
344
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,834
The main effect of the war against Japan
in the Far East
345
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was the nourishing
of the spirit of nationalism in Asia.
346
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,313
A large part of Asia
had been under British rule,
347
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,914
and most of that
that was not under British rule
348
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,713
was under Dutch rule
or some European rule,
349
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,439
and the people were beginning to aspire
350
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,911
to the creation
of their own political institutions.
351
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,151
The demonstration by the Japanese
352
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,119
that the British could be beaten,
and beaten very severely,
353
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,478
naturally encouraged in the eyes
of the people of Southeast Asia
354
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,552
the belief that they, too,
might be able to secure
355
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,029
a much stronger position
against the British
356
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,917
than they'd dreamt possible.
357
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,357
This had a great effect on opinion
in India and all over Southeast Asia.
358
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Suddenly I found myself responsible,
as the supreme commander,
359
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,755
for an enormous area of the globe,
360
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with a distance
361
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,317
of 6,000 miles across it -
362
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,392
as far as from London to Bombay,
363
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,873
with 128 million starving
and rather rebellious people
364
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,757
who'd just been liberated,
365
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,391
with 123,000 prisoners of war
and internees,
366
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,559
many of whom were dying and whom
I had to try and recover quickly.
367
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,437
And at the very beginning,
368
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,389
I had some 700,000
Japanese soldiers, sailors and airmen
369
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,393
to take the surrender, disarm,
put into prison camps,
370
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,756
awaiting transportation back.
371
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,958
It sounds a big problem, but I had
no idea what I really was in for.
372
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,830
What in really was in for
was trying to re-establish civilisation
373
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and the rule of law and order
374
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,596
through this vast part of the world.
375
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,718
We didn't even know
what the conditions were going to be.
376
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,715
I had no staff
really trained or qualified
377
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,353
to help me in this task -
378
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,233
except some professional
civil affairs officers
379
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,074
from various countries concerned,
whose one idea was to go back
380
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,233
and carry on where they left off
three or four years before.
381
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,713
(narrator)
The police are not ideal either.
382
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,236
Indonesians do not want the Dutch back.
383
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,915
If order must be maintained
in the East Indies,
384
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,356
there is only one force to do it:
385
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,556
the Japanese army.
386
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,395
Mountbatten uses them there,
and in Singapore as well.
387
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,392
(Mountbatten)
It may sound odd now, after the war,
388
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,799
but at the time - and it still didn't
make sense - what was I to do?
389
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,952
If I was to order them
to lay down their arms
390
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,429
and concentrate themselves
in prison camps,
391
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,911
and leave the outside world
without policemen or anything at all,
392
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,275
that would have been very odd.
393
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,193
No, I think they had to carry on
as they were
394
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,114
until they were effectively relieved -
that's the only order I gave.
395
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,236
I didn't consciously employ them.
396
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,629
They carried on until
I could relieve them
397
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,554
with Allied soldiers
as soon as possible.
398
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,879
(narrator)
Americans are in Japan to stay.
399
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,033
Almost everywhere else in Asia,
white men prepare to leave.
400
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,671
Reluctantly, uncomprehendingly,
the Dutch go.
401
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,478
The French are different -
402
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,755
they will not give up Indochina.
403
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,275
They send troops to take it back,
commanded by General Leclerc,
404
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,191
a hero of the European war.
405
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,875
(Mountbatten) When I spoke to Leclerc
when I was about to turn over
406
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,675
the military responsible for
the south of French Indochina to him,
407
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:51,075
I urged him to try and make friends with
local inhabitants, local insurgents.
408
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,833
I said, "That's the way
for France to come back -
409
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,717
with a friendly relationship."
410
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,396
"I don't think you can impose by
military means your old colonial rule."
411
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,671
He said, "I see the point.
I'm sorry, I'm a soldier."
412
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,672
"My instructions are to take over
the military way."
413
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,752
And that, of course, is what he did.
414
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,750
(machine-gun fire)
415
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,152
(narrator) So the killing goes on.
416
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,999
It goes on there to this day.
417
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,550
Berlin in the first months
of occupation.
418
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,509
Cheery K Fr�uleins, once the handmaidens
of Hitler's new order.
419
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,794
Some of the victors
have the time of their lives.
420
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,956
(man #1) Germany was on
a cigarette and chocolate-bar economy
421
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,589
right after the war, right after combat.
422
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,757
As a consequence,
there was little an American soldier
423
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,956
couldn't buy if he wanted to buy it -
424
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,951
including services of all sorts.
425
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,071
(man #2) It's the same old story -
426
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,390
if a boy and a girl
want to get together,
427
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,439
there isn't any law that says you can't
or you're not going to do it.
428
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,358
The black market was blooming.
429
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,874
We had nothing. A piece of soap
430
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,269
was a most valuable possession.
431
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,715
So...
432
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,268
you practically prostituted yourself,
433
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,955
just to get a piece of soap,
maybe a can of coffee,
434
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,160
or maybe even some cigarettes -
people who smoked. I didn't.
435
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:13,800
But you just did everything.
436
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:23,233
I know people - very, very fine people -
who just would have done anything.
437
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,638
And you lose some of your human dignity
when you are so hungry,
438
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,719
when you are so without food,
439
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,314
without clothing, without everything.
440
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,239
(man) How could you blame
a starving girl?
441
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,710
She might not want stockings,
she might not want cigarettes,
442
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,199
or a bicycle, or butter,
443
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,113
but she did want badly something,
444
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,952
which could be provided
445
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:53,114
by the appropriate,
typically, British or American GI.
446
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,831
I had to give up
smoking in the streets.
447
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,229
In those days I was a cigarette smoker.
448
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,754
Carelessly, you'd throw your cigarette
449
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,068
on the floor.
450
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,275
Before you knew it,
451
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,197
a fellow had almost caught it.
452
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,159
He'd been trailing you
because he saw you were smoking.
453
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:18,713
I remember that in one of the cinemas
in one of the big towns
454
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,793
there was going to be a performance
for the American GIs.
455
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,713
They had queued up before it started.
456
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,551
The Americans don't allow smoking,
but they were all smoking in the queues.
457
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:38,034
Practically opposite every smoker,
there was a line of hungry-looking men -
458
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,510
hungry for tobacco -
waiting until the doors opened.
459
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,639
And then as the cigarettes fell
into the street, there was a rush.
460
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:49,633
The key place in that queue
was just at the entrance to the cinema,
461
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:53,429
because that's where
most of the cigarettes came down.
462
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,436
(man) In retrospect, being a conqueror
seems very dubious to me,
463
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,239
but at the time it seemed quite right.
464
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,472
We were convinced of our virtue
and the German vice,
465
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,714
and it was very pleasing
to be able to tell them what to do.
466
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,111
(narrator) Time to rebuild.
467
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,796
Time for Germany to recover,
so it can start to pay.
468
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,916
The Russians want
20 billion dollars in reparations.
469
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,436
Americans think that's more
than Germany itself is worth.
470
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,949
The West won't help the Russians
collect that much.
471
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,511
They stop sending
goods and hardware to the East.
472
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,910
The Russians send little food
and raw materials to the West.
473
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,039
The Allies are starting to fall out
with each other.
474
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,757
The Germans, caught in the middle,
get on with rebuilding themselves.
475
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,718
There are no slave labourers now.
476
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:56,792
(Spencer) They had cleared the street,
and trams went by.
477
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,751
I'd have hated to ride on one.
478
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,836
They were packed to the roof -
479
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,549
there were people hanging
on the outside, though it was cold,
480
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,148
there were people standing
on the buffers.
481
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:10,152
And there were patient queues
to get on these trams,
482
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,312
but nobody ever seemed to me to get off.
483
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,599
(translation)
Horst Gerlach, born 4 May...
484
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,389
(narrator) The Suchdienst -
the missing persons register.
485
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,877
1 2 million Germans,
driven from the eastern lands,
486
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,791
trying to find each other.
487
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,628
They're not alone.
488
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,195
60 million Europeans have been uprooted.
489
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,953
Some never find their way home again.
490
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,430
November 1945.
491
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,637
The Germans live
on 1500 calories a day -
492
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,915
a third of what the American troops get.
493
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,950
(woman) It was a very hard time,
because we suffered from hunger.
494
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,794
The Americans had much food.
495
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,078
My mother decided to work for them.
496
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:37,395
And I decided to work for them, too.
497
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,909
My mother was in the kitchen,
498
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,434
and I was a waitress.
499
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,069
Well, it was rather hard for me,
500
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:56,840
because the Americans ordered
that I had to smile always.
501
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,199
And I couldn't smile, because I...
502
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:10,233
The American officers were so proud,
and they treated us as Nazis.
503
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,278
(narrator) No peace conference
ever takes place.
504
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,113
There is no new Versailles.
505
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,515
Germany is divided.
506
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,637
The occupation zones become frontiers -
507
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,998
unintended, unwelcome and permanent.
508
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,993
(Ambrose) If you have a unified Germany
that belongs to the Russians,
509
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,709
you have Russian domination
of the whole of the Continent.
510
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,158
If you have a unified Germany that is
in the hands of the Anglo-Americans,
511
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:46,074
then you have
a Western domination of the Continent
512
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,071
that would cheat Russia
513
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,470
out of her just claims to the security
514
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,030
that was Stalin's number-one concern
515
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,350
all through the war and afterwards.
516
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,989
So dividing Germany along the Elbe
517
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,117
was probably the best solution.
518
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,873
One's tempted to use words
like "fair" and "just",
519
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,394
but I don't think they apply here -
520
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,630
it's the workable solution.
521
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,072
Wherever the Red Army was
in a contiguous territory,
522
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:18,708
they would install a Sovietised system -
523
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,791
and there was no argument about it.
524
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,519
We did the very best we could on Poland.
525
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,795
The tragedy of Poland is that she's got
Germany for a neighbour on one side
526
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,833
and Russia for a neighbour on the other
side. It's a terrible position.
527
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,117
It's always been the Polish dilemma
and the Polish tragedy -
528
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,998
Poland has to fall into the orbit
of one or the other.
529
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,390
Given those choices, and given
the natures of Hitler and Stalin,
530
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,913
I suppose if I were a Pole,
531
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,629
I'd say, "We're better off under
Stalin's heel than under Hitler's."
532
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,637
Soldiers of Poland,
533
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:55,956
I wish you all a speedy and safe return
to your home country.
534
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,750
(band plays)
535
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,872
(narrator) Poland's tragedy.
Russia's triumph.
536
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,155
Victory Day in Moscow.
537
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,631
(Ambrose) The Russians paid
an enormous price for victory,
538
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,517
but they did gain from the war -
539
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,592
security for themselves,
control of East Europe,
540
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,638
and the opportunity,
which they took advantage of,
541
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:33,109
to exploit East Europe economically.
542
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,435
(narrator) A nation bled white by war
has somehow to rebuild.
543
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,159
The Soviet Union has survived.
544
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:45,199
It is one of the world's great powers,
545
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,316
and now everyone knows it.
546
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,238
London, 1945.
547
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,675
Eros comes home.
548
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,119
Britain has survived, too.
But a curious victory.
549
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,830
You can picnic again,
550
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,957
but look out for unexploded mines.
551
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,795
No invasion, no occupation,
552
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,678
yet the nation's treasure is exhausted.
553
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,470
For six years it has fought
and been a workshop for war.
554
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,189
The bullets have been bought
with Britain's wealth.
555
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,799
They won't be needed now.
556
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,110
Britain has won the war,
557
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,112
and has nearly gone bankrupt doing it.
558
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,552
The British had as many problems,
if not more, in recovering from victory
559
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,074
as the Germans did
in recovering from defeat.
560
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,233
The British... What did Britain
get out of the war?
561
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:32,440
Not very much. Not very much.
She lost a very great deal.
562
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,193
I suppose, if you want
to look at it positively,
563
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,716
she got a moral claim on the world
564
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,588
as the nation that had
stood against Hitler alone for a year,
565
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,911
and had provided the moral leadership
against the Nazis
566
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,913
at a time when everyone else
was willing to cave in to the Nazis.
567
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,598
(narrator) America, 1945.
568
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,433
The boys come home - again.
569
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,229
(Ambrose) The big winner
in World War II
570
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,880
is the United States
of America - by far.
571
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,396
We get much more out of the war
than anyone else.
572
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,632
There's a paradox here -
very quickly after the war was over,
573
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:37,111
Americans began to take the attitude:
"Aha! Here it is again."
574
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,431
"We got fooled once more,
as we did in World War I."
575
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,431
"We made this enormous effort,
576
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,909
we beat the Germans,
we beat the Japanese."
577
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,675
"And who wins? The Russians.
The Russians get East Europe out of it."
578
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,990
"We were suckers."
579
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,913
This was very widely felt
in the United States.
580
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,549
It was a strange attitude to hold
when you look,
581
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,473
with whatever objectivity
that one can muster,
582
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,835
at what the real results
of the war were.
583
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,359
(narrator) Americans come home
to a country untouched by bombs,
584
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,234
a country twice as rich
as when the war began -
585
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,390
more food than it can eat,
586
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,516
more clothes than it can wear,
587
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,831
more steel than it can use.
588
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,754
The only country in the world
with money to spare.
589
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,513
The country with the atom bomb.
590
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,192
The Germans, too, are victors -
though they do not know it yet.
591
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,794
The soldiers come home
from internment camps,
592
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,395
put on ordinary clothes,
go back to work.
593
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:13,116
Feudal, Prussian, peasant Germany
is no more.
594
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,351
In its place,
the structure of a modern state.
595
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,193
Ironically enough,
that was Hitler's work.
596
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,794
Now, in the West,
a new Germany will emerge:
597
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,038
rich and free and democratic -
and strong.
598
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,479
England, too, changes -
though some voices stay the same.
599
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,751
You will be taken
to the civilian clothing depot
600
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,717
to get your civilian suit.
601
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,110
After that, a bus
will take you down to the station.
602
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:46,074
You're free then
to push off home as fast as you can.
603
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,592
(newsreel)
The procedure is comprehensive -
604
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:51,915
there are a lot of things
to be thought of
605
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,070
when a man or a woman
leaves the army.
606
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,913
Civilian life nowadays
is fairly full of snags,
607
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,514
and the ex-soldier
must be armed against them
608
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,431
when he marches into civvy street.
609
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,358
Information pamphlet.
1 4-day ration card.
610
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,512
- Good luck. Thanks for all you've done.
- Thank you, sir.
611
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,354
- AC Clott?
- Sir! 252.
612
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,474
(narrator)
Britain's soldiers come home,
613
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,313
to a land without much cheer,
614
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,713
to a land of ration cards, queues,
black markets and austerity.
615
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,349
But to a land of National Health
616
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,749
and the welfare state.
617
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,116
To a land of free men and women.
618
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,636
To a world no longer at war.
619
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,788
In the first place,
if we hadn't won the war,
620
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,031
it would have meant
that the Japanese and the Germans
621
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,473
would have won it.
622
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:20,236
I think you can imagine what kind
of a world that would have been.
623
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:27,237
It's true that the problem of Russia -
the Soviet Union, rather -
624
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,551
emerged sharply after the war.
625
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,392
But I would say on the whole
626
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,270
that that was the lesser of
the two evils that could have happened.
627
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:44,835
And the more or less principles
on which democracies operate,
628
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,599
on which societies are based,
629
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,549
certainly didn't get much satisfaction
out of the results of the war -
630
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,349
but I think this was inevitable,
given the Soviet system.
631
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,750
On the other hand, there's still
a large portion of the world
632
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,311
that still is able to exercise
a certain degree of freedom,
633
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,994
particularly in their internal affairs.
634
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,150
Not that by any means
635
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:12,755
that everything that isn't communist
is perfect - far from it.
636
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,594
But I think the world
would have been quite intolerable
637
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,433
under Nazi and Japanese rule.
638
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,752
The principal effects of the war
on people and political systems
639
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,752
bore upon the countries
in Eastern Europe -
640
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:33,916
Poland most of all, Czechoslovakia,
Hungary, Romania and those countries.
641
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,470
These peoples were hoping,
or some of them were hoping,
642
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,712
that the war would liberate them
from the threat of Nazi tyranny,
643
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,999
and in fact at the end of it they found
themselves in the communist bloc -
644
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,789
which I must say was far less sinister
than the Nazi bloc.
645
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,395
This was a very solid achievement
of the Second World War -
646
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,790
a very much less sinister
type of tyranny
647
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,269
replaced a highly sinister tyranny.
648
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,591
But this was not the freedom
for which they had hoped,
649
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,672
and for which, to a large extent,
we had fought.
650
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,558
The most important single result
of World War II
651
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,234
is that the Nazis were crushed,
652
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,757
the militarists in Japan were crushed,
the Fascists in Italy were crushed.
653
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,513
Surely justice
has never been better served.
654
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:22,593
(narrator) For 30 years now,
there has been peace in Europe.55436
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