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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,280 This programme contains some strong language. 2 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,480 LAPPING WATER 3 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:35,600 We've been a bit short of music this season 4 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,720 and tonight we're going to make up for it. 5 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,520 The piece is called Tubular Bells. 6 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,200 It was written by a young Englishman, Mike Oldfield, when he was 17. 7 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,880 He worked for nine months to compose Tubular Bells, 8 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,560 which takes up both sides of this LP. 9 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,000 Oldfield used 20 instruments to make the original recording 10 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,440 of that music, all of which he played himself. 11 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Grand piano, bass guitar, electric guitar, tin whistle, 12 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Hammond organ, it goes on like the Guinness Book Of Records... 13 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,560 It's like yesterday. 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,720 It doesn't feel a long time ago at all. 15 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,960 It was such a special time in my life. 16 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:16,280 It was strange - right after I'd finished it, I didn't 17 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,440 want to know about it, because it was such a big thing. 18 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:26,080 That kind of got it out of my system and for about, five, even ten years. 19 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,760 I just...I didn't want to know about it... 20 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,440 I find it astonishing that it's lasted this long and I'm here 21 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,840 talking to you 40 years later all about it. 22 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,000 It's very close and dear to my heart. I put on the old tapes, 23 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,280 and it's like I'm instantly transformed back to 1972, November 1972, 24 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,400 which was when I started working on it. 25 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,720 MUSIC: "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield 26 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,320 Very few people knew who he was. 27 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,840 It was sort of talked about in reverential tones. 28 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,560 An album with one track on it, over two sides. 29 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,040 You know - that's different. 30 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,200 It sold millions in the first couple of years of release. 31 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,840 But it never stopped selling, so they now quote the figure of 16 million. 32 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,760 In the '70s, everyone had a copy of Tubular Bells. 33 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,120 If you were in any gathering of people for any length 34 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,520 of time, at some point Tubular Bells would come on the turntable. 35 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Virgin going into space most likely wouldn't have existed 36 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,840 if we hadn't had that particular, that particular instrument. 37 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,280 When we made it Michael was a mental wreck. 38 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,240 He would walk round with his eyes wet with tears nearly all the time. 39 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,120 He was in a terrible state. 40 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,640 Mike had a very difficult time with the fame of Tubular Bells. 41 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:50,920 Lots of people calling him saying, "We want you to do this, 42 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:54,160 "we want you to do that..." 43 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,320 "No, go away!" 44 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,200 I was born in Reading, in Berkshire. 45 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,640 In 1953. 46 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,120 The name of the road was Western Elms Avenue. 47 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,440 My father was a doctor, a GP. 48 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,840 My mother used to be a nurse, before she had us. 49 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,440 I've got two older siblings, a brother Terry and a sister Sally. 50 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,720 He was very, very lively, very energetic, always dashing around 51 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,760 and...creating things. 52 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,520 He had a gang of friends and he was the ringleader. 53 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Telling jokes and...he was very outgoing, very extrovert. 54 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,880 There was a little bit of music in the family. 55 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,040 There was always a guitar hanging on the wall which my dad would take 56 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,400 down every Christmas and he'd play three songs with three chords. 57 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,680 I, you know, played folk guitar, 58 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,480 so I showed Mike the three basic chords. 59 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,960 And I thought, "Well, that will keep him quiet for a few months." 60 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,640 And I think it was about two weeks later, and he was doing this 61 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,120 extraordinary... 62 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,440 you know, running up and down the keyboard, loads of other chords... 63 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,640 He just taught himself. 64 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,160 When I was about 14, and Mike would have been ten then. 65 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,440 Our mother definitely had some problems. 66 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,840 Because I have a lot of memories from that period. 67 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,280 After me, she got pregnant again. 68 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:48,320 I remember feeling her tummy and feeling the baby moving in there. 69 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,760 One day, she just wasn't there and she was gone for a long time. 70 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,680 All I know is we had a garage full of baby things, 71 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,880 and the baby didn't come home. 72 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,200 And we were told he had a hole in his heart 73 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,040 and we were spun all sorts of yarns about it. 74 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,160 Our dad told us that the baby had died 75 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,880 and that Mummy wasn't coming home, she was going to go 76 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,680 to a nice place by the sea. 77 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,520 Then later found out that the boy actually survived for a year... 78 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,640 And he didn't have a hole in his heart, it was Down's Syndrome. 79 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,600 His name was David. 80 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,240 He must have been very frail, cos he only survived for a year or so. 81 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,800 But then when she came home eventually, it was then... 82 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,560 ..the problems started. 83 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,160 She started being prescribed barbiturates 84 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,880 which are lethally addictive. 85 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,960 The doctors prescribed them for insomnia. 86 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Sometimes I would go into my mother and father's bedroom 87 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,760 and I'd see her sitting on the bed just rocking 88 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,120 backwards and forwards howling. Almost inhuman. 89 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,280 Then it became very dark, very difficult. 90 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,280 We tended to lock ourselves in our bedrooms 91 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:19,560 and do our own things, and, I think, that's when Mike... 92 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,880 really started to hone his craft. 93 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,720 Mike just used to play and play and play. 94 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,520 He sort of shut himself in his room a lot. 95 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,000 And we didn't see him. 96 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,120 Whenever you went into his bedroom, he would be... 97 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,560 incredibly fast guitar-playing and he became a prolific 98 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,680 guitarist very, very quickly. 99 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,320 We used to travel around with my friends playing in folk clubs 100 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,640 from a very early age. 101 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Got paid £2 a night for a gig there. 102 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,680 I was 16/17, and Mike was 12/13. 103 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,120 We all, actually, at this point were looking up to him. 104 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,280 And, I suppose, being envious of the fact he could 105 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,640 just do this so naturally without seemingly having to put in 106 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,000 any effort or work into it, it just came out of him. 107 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,960 And we were all... 108 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,920 busting a gut, as it were, to try and keep up with him. 109 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,880 MUSIC: "A Sad Song For Rosie" by Sallyangie 110 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,960 It was 1968 and that was a very, very powerful year 111 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,880 in the '60s. 112 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,920 If you wanted to do something, you tended to just go and do it. 113 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,320 I was just coming up to do my Finals and I said, 114 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,800 "I don't want to do this any more. 115 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,120 "No, I'm going to be a pop singer. 116 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,600 "I'm going to get a record deal, I want to make record now." 117 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,800 So, I was going to go and see Transatlantic. 118 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,440 I had my demo. Walked in to see... 119 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,520 it was Nat Joseph, who was the MD, and he listened and said, 120 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,120 "Oh, that's interesting, that's really unusual. 121 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,200 "Yes, I'm interested. 122 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,320 "But we need some musicians, I don't think just you and the guitar's 123 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,120 "quite enough." 124 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,360 And I said, "No problem, I've got a younger brother, 125 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,960 "he's a brilliant guitarist, shall I bring him in?" 126 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,520 MUSIC: "Banquet On The Water" by Sallyangie 127 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,800 I first came across Mike Oldfield when he was in this duo 128 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,560 with his sister, Sally, called the Sallyangie. 129 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,160 He was a very fine guitarist - there's no 130 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,520 getting away from that - and he knew it. 131 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,080 And he wanted to be treated with respect. 132 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,560 And he was only bloody 15, you know, come on! 133 00:08:57,560 --> 00:09:01,040 I remember one particular instance, Sally berated him... 134 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,120 At that time, he thought - "I'll hit 1,000 notes," 135 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,680 and Sally would stop and say, 136 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:09,720 "Too many notes, Michael, you've got too many notes!" 137 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,200 London was full of virtuoso guitar players, and he was such 138 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,960 a precocious little prick, he really got up my nose, 139 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,160 but he had a great potential. I was quite disappointed 140 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,600 that we didn't hear anything more of them. 141 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,760 The demise started 142 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,200 when I had the bright idea that we ought to do a bit of styling. 143 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,320 Unfortunately, went to see a dressmaker and asked her advice, 144 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,840 and she came up with this idea of, er, 145 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,800 pink velvet for me, lime green for Mike. 146 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,560 It didn't go down well at all! 147 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,720 Mike was on to better things by that time! 148 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,000 I next came across Mike when he joined Kevin Ayers' band, 149 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,280 The Whole World. 150 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,840 The Whole World was part of a different scene, a general scene. 151 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,360 # I just came in off the street 152 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,400 # Looking for somewhere to eat... # 153 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,040 Kevin was the front man. 154 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,040 # I find a small cafe... # 155 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,760 Tall, looking film star-ish. 156 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,920 # Then I say, may I? 157 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,760 # Sit and stare at you? # 158 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,160 Mike was a good bass player. 159 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,520 He had very clear ideas the way he wanted the bass to play. 160 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,200 He said, "I don't want it just going, boom, boom, boom, boom!" 161 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,360 # Sit and stare at you 162 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,040 # For a while... # 163 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,440 You've got to remember, I was only 16 when I joined. 164 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,960 To have two strings taken away from me and just four bass strings. 165 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,640 I wasn't happy with that, so I would keep hitting 166 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,920 the bass note of the chord in between, I'd play little melodies. 167 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:01,520 # That's all. # 168 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:09,680 Around that time, Mike, Sally and I experimented with LSD. 169 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:15,040 Our present opinion about LSD is that LSD is something like an amplifier 170 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,680 or catalyst which just manifests the unconscious processes in the brain. 171 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:25,520 When he was very, very young, he did LSD, and I think that probably had 172 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,520 an effect on him that he... 173 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,200 probably still has resonances even now. 174 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,400 DISCORDANT MUSIC 175 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,800 I was living in a little flat, actually - number one Victoria Square 176 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,400 in Pimlico. 177 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:45,560 And I do remember one extremely disturbing evening where... 178 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:49,000 people didn't look like anything recognisable. 179 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,440 They almost looked like machines, biological machines. 180 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,760 And it completely...disturbed me. 181 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,760 SHRIEKING 182 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,520 You never believed a bad trip existed until you had one. 183 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,440 Just your worst fears, your worst nightmares. 184 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,120 You know, hallucinating and all that, you think it's cool 185 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,760 and really good fun until it starts going wrong, and then you think, 186 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,000 "Wow, this is not good." 187 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,360 At the time, when I was 17, it was the end of the world for me. 188 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,720 I didn't know what was going to happen, I was going to cease to exist. 189 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,600 "Am I going to die...?" It scared the life out of me. 190 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,760 From that time on, I think he had trouble. It triggered 191 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,120 something in him which created an instability, 192 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,280 which took him years to get over. 193 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,760 He had to transform all that misery 194 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,960 into something... 195 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,800 you know, in his own psyche that kept him sane. 196 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,560 What it did was it made me retreat even more into my music. 197 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:59,600 In a way, music was more real to me than, erm, normal reality. 198 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,760 Here's this guy who finds life so hard... 199 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,400 and music is his only escape. 200 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,600 He described the music as a creature. 201 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,600 It's this lovely creature... 202 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,800 who...cuddles up against me and makes me feel better. 203 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,560 I moved into the house 204 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:31,520 with Kevin Ayers on the top of Seven Sisters Road. 205 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:36,160 The deal was - Kevin would do the cooking, 206 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,840 and we had to do the washing up. 207 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,040 That lasted - not that long - maybe six, nine months, I suppose. 208 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,440 And then one day, erm, Kevin came to me 209 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,520 and he said, "This is not working for me..." 210 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,920 And he, basically, disbanded the group. 211 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,160 And, erm... 212 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,960 but part of that, he offered to lend me his tape recorder. 213 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,120 It was a simple tape recorder - two tracks. 214 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,520 "I can make some demos, I've got a tape recorder." 215 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,960 So, I took it up to my little room. 216 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,800 I also borrowed the Farfisa organ from the keyboard player. 217 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,800 And then I was thinking, 218 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,840 "I want to make some repetitive thing at the front." 219 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,760 Thought of A Rainbow In Curved Air, Terry Riley... 220 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,320 This sort of underground synthesiser 221 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,200 or the birth of the synthesiser. 222 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,040 And, erm, I just played it straightaway, like this... 223 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,520 MUSIC: "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield 224 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,640 That is the Farfisa organ, these are the original tapes. 225 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,600 For Tubular Bells. 226 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,440 I made the demos, I took them to EMI. 227 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,560 There was a chap there called Nick Mobbs who kind of quite liked it, 228 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,680 and he said he'd get back to me but never did. 229 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:58,200 Erm...I remember taking them to CBS who just thought I was crazy, 230 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,240 cos it...it didn't have any vocals, didn't even have any drums. 231 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,840 And I gave up then. 232 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,680 So, what's interesting about this story is how the two main 233 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,320 protagonists come to meet. 234 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,960 You have Mike Oldfield, retreated in his bedroom writing 235 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:23,480 his masterwork, and there you have Richard Branson who is also obsessed - 236 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,560 he's obsessed with getting on with his future. 237 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,640 He's been doing the Student magazine 238 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,280 and he's looking for a business opportunity. 239 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,520 I decided not to risk launching the first issue of Student 240 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,720 unless we had managed to get hold of enough cash from advertising 241 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,080 to cover both printing and paper costs. 242 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,680 He started a magazine called Student which was a DISASTER! 243 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,600 Nothing he'd done up until then had really succeeded. 244 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,200 We'd started a mail-order company that would sell any record 245 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,480 from any record manufacturer for 10%, 25% less than the commercial price. 246 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,320 He was a chancer. He was prepared to gamble and go for it. 247 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,160 He was perceived as a visionary, putting it all together. 248 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,520 But, really, he was importing records illegally and flogging them. 249 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,280 He was a second-hand car salesman. 250 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,600 Being independent, one of the major advantages we have is that 251 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,120 we can make policy decisions quickly. 252 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,680 If we want to produce a record we don't have to have 253 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,760 a mass of meetings, we can immediately say, 254 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,840 "Yes, let's go ahead and produce it." 255 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,600 So, the saga continues that Richard Branson looks to investing 256 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,600 in The Manor, the first proper live-in, recording studio in Britain. 257 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,960 I found The Manor in... it was in the Country Life magazine. 258 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,280 Richard was 19, I was 29... 259 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,400 We'd bought his old manor house in Oxford. 260 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,080 I'd managed to get a mortgage from the bank and then 261 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,520 on the second mortgage managed to find... 262 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,520 ..er, an aunt to lend us 10,000 on a second mortgage. 263 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,440 We thought that silver-spoon Richard had got all this easily, 264 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,320 but he had to pay back 265 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,280 about 5% above the bank rate to Auntie Joyce on a regular basis. 266 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,920 She gave him no favours at all. 267 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,880 And, lo and behold, who goes there but Mike Oldfield. 268 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Doing some recording as a session man. 269 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Michael came to me with this little reel. 270 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,760 He was very bad at social intercourse. 271 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,760 And he poked his face and he was like, 272 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,040 "You've got to listen to this!" he said. 273 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,320 And I said, "Ah!" 274 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,440 - HE LAUGHS - "All right, I'll listen to this." 275 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,120 - And it was a little three-inch reel. - Yeah. 276 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:51,520 The sort of tape you used to send to your mummy in Australia - 277 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,840 "Hello, Mum." You know, that kind of stuff. 278 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,040 BOTH LAUGH 279 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,120 And I said, "All right, I'll listen to it." "Now!" he said. So, I... 280 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:03,440 I...we were all stopped, so I took it upstairs anyway. 281 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,160 And listened to it on a tape recorder I had upstairs. 282 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,120 - And I was just captivated. - It was the most beautiful piece of music. 283 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:14,120 I mean, to this day, I can still hear it in my head. 284 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:16,000 They made a copy... 285 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,800 They kept a copy and they said, "We'll speak to...Richard... 286 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,040 "Simon Draper, and we'll let you know." 287 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,400 I took it into London next time I went to London. 288 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,480 And played it to Richard...no, I didn't play it to Richard, actually, 289 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,160 because we all knew that Richard wouldn't know... 290 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,640 - No, no, we didn't play it to Richard. - No! We played it to Simon. 291 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,800 - Yes. - The other Simon, Simon Draper. 292 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:48,440 Tom played me the demo and I loved it and I thought 293 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,120 this was absolutely bound to be...successful. I had no... 294 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:55,200 real means of gauging what success meant, 295 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,400 but I just knew this thing would make an impact. 296 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,080 We discussed the problem of Richard being...being Richard! 297 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:05,440 Whose favourite record was Bachelor Boy. 298 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,760 # He said, son You are a bachelor boy 299 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,680 # And that's the way to stay... # 300 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,920 When I went to work at Virgin, I had quite strong views 301 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,040 about what sort of record label we should start. 302 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,520 The only person there who knew very little about music was Richard. 303 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,240 I don't think he even had a record player at home. 304 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:30,880 I got a call from Simon Draper, who had heard the demo tape 305 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,000 of Tubular Bells, and he was excited by this tape 306 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,520 and wanted to come over to the houseboat to play it to me. 307 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,320 PHONE RINGS 308 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,520 I picked up the phone, and it was Simon Draper. 309 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,040 And he said, "We've been listening to your demos..." 310 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,680 I said... 311 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,440 And he said, "We'd like you to come over to Richard's boat 312 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,400 "to have dinner." And I said, "Oh, all right, then." 313 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,640 We said we loved it, we didn't really have any spare money 314 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,480 to record his album, but we told him just to go and live at The Manor, 315 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,840 and in between recording sessions, he could record his album. 316 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,760 I said, "Well, I am going to need some instruments." 317 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,800 And he said, "Just write down what you need, and we'll get it for you." 318 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,200 We were a bit astounded at all these instruments that Mike was ordering, 319 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,400 cos he needed a lot of instruments. 320 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,400 Acoustic guitar... 321 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Spanish guitar... Electric guitar, bass guitar... 322 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,320 And they looked horribly expensive to me. 323 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,960 And later on, there was a concert timpani... 324 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,880 there was a glockenspiel... 325 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,680 Glockenspiel... 326 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,800 £9. Possibly mandolin, I'm not sure. 327 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,720 We didn't know anything about anything. 328 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,880 We were fighting to survive in those days. 329 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,200 There was a truck which was, erm, delivering my stuff and taking 330 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,480 out stuff of the previous musician, who was John Cale. 331 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,560 As they were taking his stuff out, I just watched this set 332 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,200 of Tubular Bells going past, and I just said to the chap, 333 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,880 "Er...can you leave those?" 334 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,040 Never though that the word tubular bells was going to play 335 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,560 such an important part in our lives, and even for the fact that, 336 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,800 I suppose, that...like Virgin going into space most likely wouldn't have 337 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,000 existed if we hadn't had that particular... 338 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,440 that particular instrument! 339 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,040 And, erm, there I was in a real studio, which I could use... 340 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,640 a proper multi-track studio, 16 tracks. 341 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,040 And I was amazed that so quickly Mike had gone from this little 2-track 342 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,760 in his bedroom to this huge mixing desk, cos in those days, 343 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,040 they were vast. 344 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,640 This is the original master. 345 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,720 The piano was recorded to a clockwork metronome ticking away. 346 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,360 And, erm, I've got live bass here... 347 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,760 And, er, can play around with some keyboards. 348 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,480 Starts off with the piano, familiar piano... 349 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,760 then a glockenspiel comes in, and the Farfisa organ, so... 350 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,400 MUSIC: "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield 351 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,200 And the glock... 352 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:10,720 And the Farfisa... 353 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,360 It's the same old pattern here... 354 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,080 And I've got the live bass now... 355 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,280 And a little harmony comes in there... 356 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,920 And then we wanted to have... 357 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,560 it was supposed to be... you know when... 358 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,320 Erm, horns go "Ba!" like in, you know, those... 359 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,640 big-band sound, but we couldn't have a horn section, so I just sort of... 360 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,480 organ, miked it up. 361 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,920 Played it really loud like "DA!" like that, you see. 362 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,440 HE COUGHS 363 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,400 And then...this is the introduction of that 3/4 time. 364 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,240 To me, that represented a human heartbeat 365 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,200 made on the left-hand of a piano. 366 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,120 If you can listen, the piano's going... 367 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,120 "Dum," like a heartbeat. 368 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,000 And then, erm... 369 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,960 Bit later on...just coming up, guitars start, 370 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,400 the thing builds up to a big climax. 371 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,280 What we are listening to here is unmixed, so it's just completely 372 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,960 as it was recorded. 373 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:34,920 But, erm...I can plug in my guitar and I'll show you that if you like. 374 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,720 Hang on a minute... 375 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,200 - CLATTER - Ah! 376 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,840 Whoops. 377 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,720 LAUGHTER 378 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,560 Idiot. 379 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,080 There's the guitar, I missed it, you see. 380 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,320 Then... 381 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,320 Then we've got these two, erm... 382 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,400 fuzzy guitars coming in in a minute. 383 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,080 And it builds up to the big climax. 384 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,800 I think those start on this... 385 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,920 And then there's a lead up... 386 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,440 The melody comes in, the flute comes in... 387 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,360 and then, I was telling you yesterday about this organ chord 388 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,800 that's supposed to go... 389 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,760 "Whoo...!" like that. There it is... 390 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,920 And the big beautiful melody comes... 391 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,840 The point really, I suppose, that people would not understand 392 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,440 was that when we made it, Michael was a mental wreck. 393 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,160 He would walk round with his eyes wet with tears nearly 394 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,480 all the time, he was in a terrible state. 395 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,120 He found it an enormous disquiet. 396 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,720 About the idea of being mortal flesh. And yet what was going on 397 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,400 in his head was...eternal and beautiful and everlasting, you know. 398 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,040 And that really...my heart went out to him. 399 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,160 He always had fag packets in his pocket 400 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,560 and he would suddenly stop and he would write in tiny little writing - 401 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,840 he'd slash five staves on it and write a little tune on it. 402 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,560 And put it back in the fag packet and then...carry on. 403 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,520 So...he was constantly...you know... 404 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,760 er, working. 405 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,560 What's so interesting about Tubular Bells, if you view it 406 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:38,800 in totality, it's like a compendium of tunes, textures, ideas. 407 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,520 There's a honky-tonk piano, you see. 408 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,040 That's all the kitchen staff from The Manor. 409 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,360 CROWD HUMMING 410 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,680 Got them all in from their cooking and... 411 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,200 that was a honky-tonk piano like my grandma's. 412 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,400 Oldfield had been sort of working up to this point for a number of years, 413 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,000 so not surprisingly, 414 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,680 therefore, you get elements of the school band in it. 415 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600 You remember that - "Dum, de, dun, de, dun, da, da, da"? 416 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,080 I like this bit... 417 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,600 I'll turn it up... 418 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,920 You see, it's got everything in it. It's got the pub piano, it's got 419 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720 the, you know, the thrash rock. 420 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,480 The big question when you've got this compendium of tunes 421 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,080 is how do you find a kind of climax point? 422 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,920 How do you find a tune which is going to burn a hole in people's souls? 423 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,960 DEEP BASS CHORDS 424 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,560 - I mean, the tension there, you see. - Yeah, it's phenomenal, isn't it? 425 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,200 This is the build-up to the riff. 426 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,880 This is the build-up to the bass guitar riff... 427 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,600 The bass line was very hard work. 428 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Because the one I hired wasn't particularly nice to play. 429 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,560 I had to play it all in one go for about seven minutes. 430 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,920 And that whole part, right from there to the very end, 431 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,360 was all in one take. 432 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,200 See, even now... 433 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,600 my muscles are starting to tire. 434 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Feel a little bit of sweat coming out of my... 435 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,200 But I had to keep going on... 436 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,560 So I'm starting to get tired now. 437 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,560 Had to keep going... 438 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,680 The accident of getting Vivian Stanshall involved in that 439 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,720 was great as well. 440 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,800 Vivian was with the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, 441 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,720 and they'd been recording already. 442 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,880 Vivian was around and getting drunk, 443 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,840 cos he could drink a bottle of brandy, you know, for tea. 444 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,800 You couldn't keep him out of anything, he would just blunder in 445 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,960 and, "Hello, dear boy, what's going on in here?" 446 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,360 - HE IMITATES GUFFAW - And that was it, you had to give in to him. 447 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,280 HORN MUSIC 448 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,960 And from behind the magnificent 20th-century Norman portal, 449 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,680 you'll find the downstairs lavatory and me seated, 450 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,400 toying with my worms. 451 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Michael said to me, "Wouldn't it be great to get Vivian to introduce 452 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,520 "the instruments?" 453 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,000 I said, "Well, go and ask him?" 454 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480 "I'm sc... Oh! I can't do that, I'm scared!" 455 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,120 BOTH LAUGH 456 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,560 And eventually, I made him go and ask him. 457 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,360 I said, "Go and ask him, go and ask him. 458 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440 "Ask him. Say you want a slug of his brandy." 459 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,320 While you're watching, why not have a glass of Chateau Tilbury? 460 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,640 At river temperature, it's absolutely delicious. 461 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,400 I just gave him the words and... I wrote them down... 462 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,200 just the cast in order of appearance. 463 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,720 It starts with the grand piano. 464 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,400 We could not cue the fucker at all. It was a nightmare. 465 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,000 - He was impossible. - He was... 466 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,680 "Oh, grand piano!" In completely the wrong place, you know. 467 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,280 Next comes in at the beginning, reed and pipe organ. 468 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,640 - VIVIAN: - Reed and pipe organ. 469 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,960 "Reed and pipe organ." 470 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,840 - HE LAUGHS - I love it! 471 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,760 I couldn't believe my luck, especially when he said, 472 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,240 "Plus tubular bells," and the bells hit. 473 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,280 I-I was over the moon, cos he just sounded so perfect. 474 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,640 Plus...tubular bells. 475 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,080 The thing about the tubular bells is that it's an instrument 476 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,960 that normally is quite far back in an orchestra. 477 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,960 And, you know, in this case, we wanted the tubular bells to be 478 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,320 the loudest instrument. 479 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,360 We had a lot of arguments about that, me and Tom. 480 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,000 He was asking for the impossible, virtually. 481 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,160 - Within the technology we had. - Nearly came to blows about it, you know. 482 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,240 It's got to be loud, and the bell's got to be that loud. 483 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,320 I don't care if we had to bring the whole track down... 484 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,320 And then he would say, "Then it will sound too quiet on the radio." 485 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,120 It doesn't matter...the bell... 486 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,120 Let them turn all...all them turn their radios up. 487 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,760 I said... 488 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,760 Cos they come with this neat little hammer with the leather on one end. 489 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,320 And copper on the other end, I think, and it was... 490 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,880 even hitting it with the copper didn't work. 491 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,120 - So, we got a real hammer. - Got a real claw hammer, a bloody great... 492 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,480 BOTH LAUGH 493 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,640 ..12-ounce claw hammer. I said, "Look, just hit it..." 494 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,040 Here we have the bell... 495 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,840 Tubular bells... 496 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,720 BELL CHIMES 497 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,720 We worked all night, 498 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,680 finished side one about eight or nine in the morning. 499 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,840 And, erm...a copy was sent off to London, and I didn't hear 500 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,880 anything until... 501 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,960 that evening. 502 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,840 Richard's reaction to the first side of Tubular Bells was, 503 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,560 "It hasn't got any vocals on it." 504 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,760 It was a major nightmare in his head about what we do with this. 505 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,240 We went to the Midem Music Conference in Cannes 506 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:32,240 in order to try and gauge interest in our product. 507 00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:34,040 We hadn't released anything, 508 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,640 obviously, at this point. And see whether we could set up 509 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,280 overseas licensing deals. 510 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,880 I definitely remember when I took the tape 511 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,640 around some record companies, one of the record company bosses 512 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,040 saying he wanted to put some vocals on it. 513 00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:53,320 If we put some vocals on it, he would sign Mike up. 514 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,840 What Richard did when he came back. He said, "Should we try and put vocals on it?" 515 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,920 And he may well have mentioned it to Mike, 516 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,400 but I don't think anyone else thought this was a good idea. 517 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,800 And...certainly Mike didn't. 518 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,640 Eventually, it was decided I could stay on in the house, 519 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,760 and whenever the studio wasn't being used, I could go in 520 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,600 and work on Side Two of Tubular Bells. 521 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,240 I had all the sections mapped out. 522 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:29,240 I had the Caveman mapped out. I had the beautiful, peaceful tune. 523 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,800 When the time came to choose the sleeve, the design and so on, 524 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,920 we introduced Mike to Trevor Key. 525 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,600 He did all this on his own. 526 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,240 And I just looked at it and went, "Oh, wow!" 527 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:50,240 My jaw dropped at just how amazingly beautiful it was. 528 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,760 This is a real...an actual real object, 529 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,280 which was built, but then it was chromium-plated... 530 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,440 As I understand it, it didn't have a back, so it wasn't like... 531 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,480 completely solid all the way round. 532 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,840 Trevor asked me, "What kind of typeface?" 533 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,040 And I said, "I don't want it big, plastered all over it. 534 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,240 "Leave this beautiful picture. 535 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:11,720 "You can put Tubular Bells..." 536 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:15,080 I chose the colour... "And put my name very small." 537 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,640 Cos I didn't want the type to destroy the image, you see. 538 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,800 Tubular Bells became the premiere Virgin release, there it was. 539 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,120 V2001, 25th of May 1973, 540 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,400 the label was launched with this piece of music. 541 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,720 An album with one track on it, over two sides. 542 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:37,320 You know, that's different. 543 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,520 Richard Branson rang me up - 544 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,320 "How would you like to come up to my recording studio 545 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,000 "and meet Mike Oldfield?" 546 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,320 Now, Mike was hard work. 547 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,160 He didn't want to answer the sort of questions I wanted to ask. 548 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,360 - (MUMBLES) - You know what I mean... 549 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,720 I remember I hated it. He was asking me all these personal questions. 550 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:07,240 "Tell me about Tubular Bells." 551 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,320 Mumble, mumble, mumble. 552 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,960 He was not the greatest interviewee in the world, 553 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,280 especially at this time. 554 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,240 "Why did you write Tubular Bells?" 555 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,360 What a weird question. 556 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,040 It's a bit silly, isn't it? 557 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,400 I think it is. 558 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,520 I can't imagine me asking such a question, it's a stupid question. 559 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,920 Er... 560 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,800 I racked my brains for 20 minutes and I couldn't think... 561 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,960 There wasn't a reason. 562 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,360 I didn't want to have a... 563 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,120 I didn't do it for that, you know, it's just... 564 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,080 HE SIGHS 565 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,880 And at the end, I said, "How was that? 566 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,640 "It wasn't all that painful, was it?" 567 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,840 He said, "I feel as if I've been raped." 568 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,640 I was taken into a room by Richard, Tom... 569 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,160 I think the lot of them, and they sat me down and said, 570 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,880 "You are going to have to do this live." 571 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,000 I said, "No, absolutely not." 572 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,640 I'd become a bit of a rebel by that time. 573 00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:09,960 I hadn't realised quite how big a problem that we had with Mike. 574 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,960 To be frank, he had a sort of mental problem 575 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,240 and he wouldn't disagree with that, 576 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:16,440 at that time. 577 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,320 He said he didn't want to go on tour, but he agreed to do one concert. 578 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,400 I was pushed and pushed, and there was no getting out of it. 579 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,640 "Oh, what have I let myself in for?" 580 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,000 We assembled a group of musicians, many of whom were signed 581 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,360 to the label by this time, so it was members of Hatfield 582 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,200 and The North, Henry Cow, and then Mick Taylor played guitar on it. 583 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,760 The Queen Elizabeth Hall was suggested - nice size, 584 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,200 predominantly a classical venue. 585 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,000 Interesting, isn't it, that Branson decided that for the one live 586 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,440 appearance of Tubular Bells, it should be in one of the great, 587 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,400 hallowed bastions of culture. 588 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,880 Yeah, he wouldn't put it in a rock venue. 589 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,920 So, it's quite a strong statement behind that, I think - he wanted it 590 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,240 to be seen as a piece of...artwork. 591 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:13,520 I'd started getting nervous about it by then, cos I was thinking, 592 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,800 "Oh, my God, I've got to do this live." 593 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,080 There was no sampling then, no backing tracks, 594 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,240 you had to... 595 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,120 you all had to play everything. 596 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,800 As we got closer to the gig, Michael got more and more scared, I mean, 597 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,440 he was really scared. 598 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,840 I remember the rehearsals, we were going over and over this piece, 599 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,440 and Mike suddenly burst into tears and left the room, 600 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,320 because he just couldn't handle it, he was so emotionally... 601 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,120 ..it was so difficult for him. 602 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,160 I'd been given an old beaten-up Bentley for my wedding present. 603 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,320 So I was driving him to the concert, and suddenly he turned to me 604 00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:01,360 and said, "Richard, I'm sorry, I just can't do it. I just can't do it." 605 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,600 And this was about an hour and a half... 606 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,360 and the concert was sold out, and I kept driving, and he just said, 607 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,000 "Richard, you're not taking me seriously. I'm not going on stage." 608 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,800 And I was just desperately trying to think, 609 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,720 "What the hell do I do now?" 610 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:18,760 And then I just turned to him and said, "Look, Mike, if I give you 611 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,400 "the keys to this car, and you can drive this car off after 612 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,600 "the concert, do you think you can overcome whatever's bothering you?" 613 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,200 ANNOUNCER: Our Live from London radio concert comes tonight from 614 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,120 The Queen Elizabeth Hall. 615 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,440 And features Michael Oldfield performing his composition, Tubular Bells. 616 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,440 We got up on the stage and started... 617 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,760 MUSIC: "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield 618 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,280 David Bedford came in out of time, and Mick Taylor's guitar 619 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,920 wasn't quite in tune... 620 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,440 I was just waiting for the silence and the boos. 621 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,040 Fruit they were going to throw at me, cos it was so awful. 622 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,880 And the...just to my amazement, there was this roar. 623 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,600 APPLAUSE AND WHISTLING 624 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,760 Everybody...standing ovation, straightaway, it was instant. 625 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,600 We all had tears in our eyes, and, you know, 626 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,720 Tubular Bells was born, Mike Oldfield was born, 627 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:23,480 Virgin Records was born... 628 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,240 He couldn't understand it. He said, "What the fuck are they standing up clapping for? 629 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,920 "That was crap!" I mean, he was really amazed. 630 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,400 I felt that I'd done it so badly that... 631 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160 ..perhaps I didn't deserve that... 632 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,480 ..you know, that reaction, that reward. 633 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,720 John Peel came to the boat one day. 634 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:48,000 Simon and myself played him the whole album, 635 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,480 and he absolutely loved it and he chose to play the whole album 636 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,840 on his radio show, which was unheard of. 637 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,480 I've been introducing Top Gear for nearly six years now, 638 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,840 but I think that that is... 639 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,840 certainly one of the most impressive LPs I've ever had the chance 640 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,560 to play on the radio. 641 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,080 Really a remarkable record from Mike Oldfield 642 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,440 and one of the first releases on the new Virgin label. 643 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,040 John Peel was responsible for breaking so many bands. 644 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,480 It was a very influential club, it was a very select club. 645 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,560 It was like, "Let me let you in on this secret." 646 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,360 I remember a kid coming into school with a copy of Tubular Bells, 647 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,000 and us all just looking at the sleeve and thinking, "What is it?" 648 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,400 We had a mate's house we'd go to. He lived near school. 649 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,520 So we were able to get a fix at lunchtime, as well. 650 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680 And we'd go off and listen to it there. 651 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,560 Records used to happen through word of mouth then. 652 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,960 Somebody would buy it, take it home, play it, and another person 653 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,320 would then want to buy it. 654 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,800 There was no internet or no communication like that. 655 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,120 It just began to explode, it evolved. 656 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,440 I can remember going to an Italian restaurant in Little Venice 657 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,120 with Richard shortly before the record actually came out. 658 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,640 And we were trying to guess what it would sell 659 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,400 - and we absolutely had no idea. - We knew nothing about the industry 660 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,480 but thought we might sell 4,000 copies. 661 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,120 It took a while, you see. It crept and crept and crept. 662 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,120 It didn't do it like things do nowadays, they go in at number one. 663 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,200 It took about, probably, a year. 664 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,640 It was quite a warm summer, and I can remember hearing it 665 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,920 coming out of windows, 666 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,560 and you thought, "Boy, this is happening. 667 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,640 "This is word of mouth." 668 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,200 But I think what made it different was the fact 669 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,640 it sort of kept on going. 670 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,040 It started to attract 671 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,160 much bigger audiences. It became a talking point. 672 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,880 I suppose as it started getting successful, I was thinking, 673 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,560 maybe I'd had the opportunity 674 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,040 to not get involved and do the... 675 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,160 be a star or anything but just to get out, go away. 676 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:58,200 Mike had a very difficult time with the fame of Tubular Bells. 677 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,080 He locked himself on the top of the remotest hill he could find 678 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,920 in Wales! 679 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,680 And lots of people calling him, saying, 680 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,320 "We want you to do this, we want you to do that." 681 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,440 "No, go away!" 682 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,000 Every year, it seems, a film is released with scenes 683 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,880 in it so disgusting or so disturbing 684 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,480 that controversy is stirred up over whether it should be shown or not. 685 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,080 A strong contender for the title this year is this film 686 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,040 The Exorcist, which was released yesterday in London. 687 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,960 The Exorcist, which was one of the biggest box-office hits 688 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,640 of all time, opened late in 1973. 689 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,520 But very close to the opening, 690 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,840 they'd thrown out the original score and were looking 691 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,600 for music to fill the gap. 692 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,160 The director, William Friedkin, 693 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,040 was in the offices of Ahmet Ertegun, head of Atlantic Records 694 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,320 in America. 695 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,400 And he came across an anonymous record with a white label. 696 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,160 And he took it out the sleeve and he put it on the record player 697 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,880 there in Ertegun's office and he put the needle on, 698 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,320 and it went, "Da, dum, dum, dum..." 699 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,840 and he went, "That!" 700 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,280 Mum, you should have seen this, a man came along 701 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,840 on this beautiful grey horse... 702 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,400 Firstly, he heard, the childlike thing, 703 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,720 cos, obviously, the centre of The Exorcist is the story 704 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,720 of a young girl who's possessed by some demon. 705 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,840 The second thing he heard 706 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,720 was that the notes are very simple, but there is something 707 00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:17,680 about the time structure 708 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,280 that's...that's odd. 709 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,480 The way it is, it's one bar, seven, one bar, eight. 710 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,680 So it'll be... 711 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,480 - IN TIME WITH UNDERSCORED MUSIC - ..one, two, three, four, five, six, SEVEN, 712 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,160 one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 713 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,160 ONE, two, three, four, five, six, SEVEN... 714 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:38,720 If that was just two simple bars, all of eight notes each bar, 715 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:43,000 the brain would switch off after a while, but because every other one 716 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:48,000 trips you up, you can't not concentrate on it. 717 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,800 - I think I'll walk home tonight. - OK. 718 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,120 Take that, drop it by my house. 719 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,640 'There's a couple of moments when it appears. 720 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,680 'Chris comes walking down the street.' 721 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,560 As she comes round the corner and starts walking down the street, 722 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,520 you hear... # Dun dun dun der-dun... # 723 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,760 SOUNDTRACK REPLACES SUNG VERSION 724 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,720 'There are these kind of strange little gusts of wind. 725 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:12,840 'A group of kids run by wearing Halloween marks 726 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,480 'which is sort of an indicator of stuff that's to come.' 727 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,120 KIDS YELL EXCITEDLY 728 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,120 'There's a low-angle shot of nuns with their habits 729 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,760 'blowing in a slightly Gothic way.' 730 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,560 Later on, when the doctors are trying to diagnose what's happened 731 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,680 to Regan, you see a closed-circuit television feed of her 732 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,320 in a hospital bed raging. 733 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,440 It looks like a type of disorder that's rarely ever seen any more, 734 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:49,760 except in primitive cultures. We call it somnambular form possession. 735 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,400 'And so you have this really strange thing which is these very' 736 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,720 brief uses of that piece of music. 737 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,920 Somehow it becomes the theme from The Exorcist. 738 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:04,600 The Exorcist was hugely important in breaking Mike in America. 739 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,880 The album went top five. I mean, it won the Grammy 740 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,960 for Best Instrumental Album. 741 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,920 And at that juncture, Mike could've gone and capitalised on that 742 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,120 and could've been a huge American star. 743 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,120 After The Exorcist, where obviously he'd become very well-known, 744 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,680 I think he was really in quite a bad way. 745 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,000 I think, really, he had nobody to turn to. 746 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,760 He seemed very distressed, he seemed very alone. 747 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,240 It wasn't unusual to find him on his own, 748 00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,080 because we'd always known he'd lock himself in his bedroom 749 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,720 and do his music, but it was a very different type of loneliness, 750 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,040 I got the impression. 751 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,560 I do remember my mother coming and visiting, 752 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,160 and she was going very much downhill at the time. 753 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,200 And I do remember sitting in a car with her... 754 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,280 That's probably the last time I saw her, actually. 755 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,840 I was suffering too, and she looked at me and she said, 756 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,520 "You know what it's like, Mike, don't you?" 757 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,840 And I said, "Yeah...yeah, I do." 758 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,680 And then, of course, the question came, you know...the follow-up. 759 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,920 We were talking about Tubular Bells, but the follow-up was a nightmare. 760 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,800 What Mike needed - and obviously what Virgin needed as well - 761 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,840 was for Mike not to be just known for Tubular Bells, 762 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,920 and it was important that Tubular Bells... 763 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,840 the name "Tubular Bells" didn't become bigger than Mike Oldfield. 764 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,720 Richard was so eager for me to do something that... 765 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,560 I looked at the first thing and I said, 766 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,640 "What's that?" "Oh, it's Hergest Ridge." 767 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,160 "All right. Well, I'll do an album called Hergest Ridge 768 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,080 "and I'll make it about kind of old, legendary things, 769 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,760 "and it'll have little whistles in it 770 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,200 "and things that sound like wild horses and all that." 771 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,480 He didn't want to do a follow-up that quickly, because it was... 772 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,880 he'd drained himself. He'd spent himself completely. 773 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,800 I was kind of disappointed with lots of the ideas I was coming up with, 774 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,280 waiting for...you know, "the big one". 775 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,360 Didn't realise that I'd already done the big one. 776 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,360 It's really tough to follow such an enormous album like Tubular Bells. 777 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,200 It didn't capture people's imagination 778 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,880 in the same way that Tubular Bells did. 779 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,160 To be honest, it's not my favourite album, either. 780 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,960 I remember I was recording with Tom, and we kind of got bored. 781 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,800 It was a nice, sunny day, so we went flying model aeroplanes instead. 782 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,320 After Ommadawn, his third album, 783 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,600 we then went through a sort of lull period for a while. 784 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,680 We had other artists that did reasonably well, but we then needed... 785 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,720 we needed a new shot in the arm. 786 00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:04,040 # Babylon's burning 787 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,800 # You're burning the street 788 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,760 # You'll burn your houses with anxiety... # 789 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,880 By the time we got to punk, the reaction was, 790 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,520 "Don't play me that hippy shit." 791 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,240 # Babylon's burning Babylon's burning... # 792 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:21,680 The whole thing with punk was three chords and the truth 793 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,120 in and out under three minutes. 794 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,080 The idea of putting on one side of an album 795 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,120 and it being one piece of music was complete anathema. 796 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,200 The whole punk thing happened, and they were calling me 797 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,720 rude names in the press for no reason. 798 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,200 We had The Sex Pistols and Magazine and The Skids and so on, 799 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,080 The Ruts. Virgin started having a lot of hit singles. 800 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,560 I must say I felt betrayed, because Richard suddenly 801 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,920 jumped on that bandwagon, and Virgin became the punk label. 802 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,240 After a year or two, I'd just run out of steam 803 00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:57,720 and I didn't know what to do, and I got really...depressed. 804 00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:02,280 I started maybe drinking too much alcohol. 805 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,960 It was in about 1978, I got involved with this 806 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,800 self-awareness group called Exegesis. 807 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,440 TV ANNOUNCER: This group of 58 people has just completed a seminar 808 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,840 which many of them now believe has transformed their lives. 809 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,560 It lasted three days and cost them £175 each. 810 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,320 One of their...they called them "processes" 811 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,280 seemed to me a combination of primal scream therapy 812 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,000 and rebirth therapy. 813 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,120 This seminar does not function under the same laws and rules 814 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,040 that your life does out there. 815 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,320 I had to lie down on the floor, and he said, "OK, it's the time now." 816 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,320 I thought, "Oh, my God, it's going to be 817 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,880 "like facing a firing squad for me." You know, it's terrifying. 818 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,760 He said, "Just start making a noise." 819 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,240 Start to put the feelings of your body into a sound. 820 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:56,560 'Gradually, the noise I made became louder and louder and louder 821 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,760 'until it turned into' 822 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,440 a kind of a shouting and then it turned, after a few minutes, 823 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,080 into a scream like you wouldn't believe. 824 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,560 WAILING 825 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,280 I was screaming at the top my voice. 826 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,920 WOMAN SCREAMS 827 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,160 Stop it, stop it, stop it! 828 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,960 What they did was they held me up by my feet, 829 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,560 and these people all round me pushed these cushions 830 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,360 into my body, so I felt completely cocooned, 831 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,200 and then, very gradually, I calmed down, and they laid me down 832 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:34,040 on the ground, and I cannot describe the feeling that I felt, 833 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:40,920 because I felt the wetness of a newborn infant. 834 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,840 That's it, good night. 835 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,720 APPLAUSE 836 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:49,320 I was on a high like you wouldn't believe and I did all kinds 837 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,080 of strange things which I'd never done before, 838 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,840 like instead of shunning all interviews, 839 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,560 I almost suddenly wanted to talk to everybody. 840 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,480 JAUNTY PLUCKED GUITAR 841 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,960 'And it turned him into a kind of mini-monster for a period. 842 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,160 'Firm handshake,' 843 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,440 leaning forward into it. It was so uncharacteristic and wrong. 844 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,680 TAPE REWINDS INCONSISTENTLY 845 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,800 MUSIC: "Blue Peter" theme tune 846 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,920 The hair is cut, the beard is gone, 847 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,000 he's got no clothes on on the front of music mags, 848 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,720 he's doing a version of the Blue Peter theme. 849 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:26,800 PLAYS ALONG WITH THEME TUNE 850 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,440 'It's just this completely different character,' 851 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,400 and bear in mind, he's still not...30. 852 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,600 The worst thing he ever did was to do that rebirthing thing. 853 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,840 TAPE LOOPS AND WHIRRS 854 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,080 That might sound cruel, because I'm sure 855 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:51,920 he's more comfortable in himself dealing with the rest of the world. 856 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,600 MASS CHANTING 857 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,760 'I think that since that rebirthing thing, 858 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,800 'he's found it very hard to reach the places 859 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,520 'where the real music came from,' 860 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,320 because I think the music that Michael made was... 861 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:12,040 was the grist of his pain. He didn't want to do the pain any more. 862 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,160 Quite reasonably so, I suppose. 863 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,640 But it was the pain that was bringing the music through. 864 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,600 SCREAMING AND APPLAUSE 865 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,560 APPLAUSE FADES 866 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:32,360 MUSIC: "Ommadawn Part One" by Mike Oldfield 867 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,000 About five years that lasted, and I did all the things 868 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,920 I hadn't been able to do. It was like an incredible high. 869 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,240 It sort of wore off. 870 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:52,160 It really worked for Mike, but it didn't last, 871 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,880 because all it does is give you a glimpse, 872 00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,240 but then all the automation kicks in again after a few weeks. 873 00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,320 The emotional undercurrents were so strong, which had been held back 874 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,400 for so long, the powerful force of that anguish was still there 875 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,560 and it was trying to come through. 876 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,640 Then there was the passing away of my mother, 877 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,000 had to deal with the grief of that. 878 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,720 That was a terrible loss. 879 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:23,400 Best way I can describe that was a big balloon bursting full of grief, 880 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,760 and I had to let it out. 881 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,200 Right now, I'd see that Mike is opening up in a way 882 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,920 that he's never opened up before. 883 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,320 Because the music that Mike's come up with has touched people 884 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:49,000 in a way that's just so amazing. He's given so much... 885 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,840 ..he deserves something back. 886 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,200 Not just the money, which he spends...HAS SPENT in the past 887 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,600 to create a wall, build big walls around himself. 888 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,920 The money doesn't help. 889 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,200 TUBULAR BELLS PLAYS IN REVERSE 890 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,120 Our starting point was music. 891 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,360 For the second sequence in the Olympic ceremony, 892 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,480 it was Tubular Bells 893 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,760 that we wanted to actually make a cornerstone 894 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,960 of 20 minutes of the evening. 895 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,160 ANNOUNCER: Please welcome Mike Oldfield 896 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,480 and the staff of the United Kingdom National Health Service. 897 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,400 'It's tricky, because you think, "How's he going to react?" 898 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,640 'We're not going to be able to play all 40-odd minutes of it, 899 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,000 'it's going to be a cut-down version,' 900 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,560 and I have to say, of all the collaborators that we worked with 901 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,680 on it, he was extraordinary. 902 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,760 'Not only the ability to manipulate that tune in different ways, 903 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,560 'but also his appetite for it was amazing.' 904 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,160 He's had to be very protective of the work, understandably, 905 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,040 but with us he was like, "Oh..." 906 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,800 We started to put it together with this sequence which was borne 907 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,880 out of children's literature and caring 908 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,920 and the villains in children's literature, 909 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,920 because the theme tune of The Exorcist, 910 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,080 that made sense as a starting point for it, 911 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,640 and then the celebratory sense of Tubular Bells was also good, 912 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,840 because we wanted to celebrate the NHS 913 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,480 and we wanted to use a lot of the staff from the NHS to learn dancing. 914 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,640 'Here we are, 40 years later, this little piece of music I had 915 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,000 'when I was in this terrible, panic-stricken situation,' 916 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,600 I was standing there on the stage live 917 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,360 in front of this massive audience and thinking, 918 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,720 "I remember writing that all those years ago," 919 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,880 and here's these thousands of people and millions of people 920 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,480 watching it, and it was going out across the planet. 921 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,560 It was...magnificent. 922 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,920 GUITAR SOLO PLAYS 923 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,160 I think he'd arrived at a point where he thought, 924 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,000 "This would be a wonderful way to celebrate the album nationally." 925 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,800 Because he lives abroad now, but it does belong to Britain. 926 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,480 I think it is borne out of our culture. 927 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,520 The most extraordinary pleasure in the album 928 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,400 is that he brings it all together, 929 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,240 that feeling of something experimental being brought together 930 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:33,000 and complete. Because everyone can experiment and everyone can doodle 931 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,080 and go off strange places, and they're fascinating, 932 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,800 but to complete it and to give a sense of wholeness, 933 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,760 that he brings you to the end of a journey is amazing, really, 934 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,120 and it feels, the sense... 935 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,440 The sense of satisfaction and completion you get from that 936 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,360 is the reason that it's successful. 937 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,600 To have that kind of mainstream public appeal for something 938 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:57,280 so weird without vocals, over such a long space of time, 939 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:02,000 to have that much public appeal means it's a masterpiece, I think. 940 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:10,000 SOFT ACOUSTIC GUITAR MUSIC PLAYS OVER LAPPING WAVES 941 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,080 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 80861

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