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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,749 --> 00:00:25,800 [Michael] This is my inspiration. 2 00:00:30,574 --> 00:00:33,296 [somber music playing] 3 00:00:40,624 --> 00:00:42,383 [Michael] 4 00:01:21,916 --> 00:01:27,025 [dramatic music playing] 5 00:01:28,448 --> 00:01:32,426 [announcer] The number one artist in the world! 6 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:45,019 [Shmuley] That level of mega stardom is not healthy. 7 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,050 People are not gods. 8 00:01:53,151 --> 00:01:58,019 [reporter] Tonight, Jackson is wanted by police 9 00:01:58,020 --> 00:02:01,840 of multiple felony counts of child molestation. 10 00:02:03,979 --> 00:02:07,239 [reporter 2] The Jackson machine just keeps right on rolling. 11 00:02:34,567 --> 00:02:36,154 Sony Corporation believes 12 00:02:36,155 --> 00:02:38,299 it has a profitable partner in Michael Jackson. 13 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:41,240 Together, they could make a billion dollars. 14 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,710 As NBC's Mike Jensen reports tonight, 15 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,460 teach your kids to sing. 16 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:50,269 [dramatic music playing] 17 00:02:53,121 --> 00:02:56,629 [reporter 3] It's the kind of contract 18 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:58,150 that takes your breath away. 19 00:02:58,370 --> 00:03:02,810 A projected one billion dollars for six Michael Jackson albums, 20 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:06,150 plus feature films, videos and video games. 21 00:03:07,130 --> 00:03:10,869 Michael, in the 1980s, you had the largest selling album 22 00:03:10,870 --> 00:03:14,430 in history with Thriller. Now, with Dangerous, 23 00:03:14,610 --> 00:03:17,500 you've given us the fastest selling album of your career. 24 00:03:17,501 --> 00:03:19,828 We're prouder than ever to have you part 25 00:03:19,829 --> 00:03:21,029 of the Sony Music family. 26 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:25,390 The thrilling fact is that the best is definitely yet to come. 27 00:03:25,551 --> 00:03:27,636 [crowd cheering] 28 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,258 [Chris] When I joined Sony, Michael Jackson was 29 00:03:32,259 --> 00:03:33,699 the biggest star in the world. 30 00:03:34,699 --> 00:03:35,749 He was the guy. 31 00:03:36,579 --> 00:03:38,660 I don't know any other way to describe it. 32 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:40,240 I mean, we all lived through it. 33 00:03:40,241 --> 00:03:42,219 [reporter 4] The Michael Jackson world tour 34 00:03:42,220 --> 00:03:43,270 is on the road again. 35 00:03:46,250 --> 00:03:48,229 [Chris] It was incredibly exciting. 36 00:03:49,030 --> 00:03:51,610 He was selling out stadiums, making record money. 37 00:03:52,250 --> 00:03:54,729 He was the franchise. I mean, let's be honest. 38 00:03:54,809 --> 00:03:57,469 [indistinct chatter] 39 00:03:57,550 --> 00:04:00,020 [Chris] We are all in the business of succeeding. 40 00:04:00,550 --> 00:04:03,690 And when you're working in a company like Sony Music, 41 00:04:04,250 --> 00:04:05,300 you want... 42 00:04:06,230 --> 00:04:07,970 Michael Jackson to succeed. 43 00:04:08,963 --> 00:04:11,643 [indistinct chatter] 44 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,600 [Rosibel] My name is Rosibel Smith. 45 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,439 And for 31 years, I was employed 46 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,370 by the Los Angeles Police Department. 47 00:04:22,959 --> 00:04:27,120 In 1993, while working juvenile division of the LAPD, 48 00:04:27,121 --> 00:04:29,519 I was working the sexually exploited child unit. 49 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,080 I was advised by my supervisor, 50 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,230 who was the officer in charge of the unit, 51 00:04:33,660 --> 00:04:37,939 that a case had come in involving a young boy 52 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:39,780 who was 13 years of age. 53 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,119 And that the perpetrator was Michael Jackson. 54 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,400 I was a little... 55 00:04:44,401 --> 00:04:46,879 [clicks tongue] ...in disbelief 56 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,500 that it was Michael Jackson doing this. 57 00:04:49,780 --> 00:04:52,340 Because I grew up watching Michael Jackson, 58 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,120 you know, the Jackson 5 cartoons when I was a kid. 59 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:57,300 And I really enjoyed his music. 60 00:04:57,581 --> 00:05:01,460 - [crowd cheering] - [dramatic music playing] 61 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,019 [Rosibel] But we had a job to do, 62 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:05,719 and that job was to go out 63 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,660 and just handle it just like any other case at that time. 64 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:14,259 [Federico] Our role was to find out 65 00:05:14,260 --> 00:05:18,019 if Mr. Jackson had committed the crime 66 00:05:18,020 --> 00:05:21,640 of sexual molestation against children. 67 00:05:22,220 --> 00:05:23,500 And on the same token... 68 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,240 we had to find out if the children... 69 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,780 they were telling the truth. 70 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,860 [Rosibel] We had to interview the victim. 71 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,870 The victim had actually met Michael Jackson at a restaurant. 72 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,160 He was very, very little. 73 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,440 Then, years later, that relationship grew, 74 00:05:52,660 --> 00:05:54,410 and they began to visit each other. 75 00:05:56,850 --> 00:06:02,049 The victim was alleging that Michael would oftentimes 76 00:06:02,050 --> 00:06:04,690 rub his body against his body. 77 00:06:05,050 --> 00:06:09,570 He alleged that Michael Jackson fondled him and masturbated him. 78 00:06:11,410 --> 00:06:14,770 He alleged that Michael liked to have his nipples... 79 00:06:16,590 --> 00:06:17,750 rubbed, squeezed... 80 00:06:19,070 --> 00:06:20,120 kissing. 81 00:06:20,730 --> 00:06:23,349 Then that graduated to oral copulation. 82 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:26,049 They bathed together and to the point 83 00:06:26,050 --> 00:06:30,530 where eventually Michael Jackson consumed his semen. 84 00:06:32,801 --> 00:06:36,251 [dramatic music playing] 85 00:06:38,650 --> 00:06:40,689 [Shana] We had heard on the grapevine 86 00:06:40,690 --> 00:06:44,030 that there were these allegations circulating. 87 00:06:45,929 --> 00:06:48,429 And it was a shock to everybody. 88 00:06:48,969 --> 00:06:51,349 Yeah, we knew he was hanging with kids, 89 00:06:51,509 --> 00:06:53,689 but I saw him hang with the kids 90 00:06:53,690 --> 00:06:55,626 and I saw that it was completely innocent. 91 00:06:55,627 --> 00:06:57,212 [kid grunts] Okay, fine! 92 00:06:57,213 --> 00:06:59,508 [Shana] I saw he was playing games with them. 93 00:06:59,509 --> 00:07:02,149 I saw the kids wanting to hang with him. 94 00:07:02,228 --> 00:07:04,355 [indistinct chatter] 95 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,540 [Gregg] I really hoped the allegations weren't true. 96 00:07:11,060 --> 00:07:14,480 The feeling was trying to contain it. 97 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,659 Obviously, we were thinking of, you know, the immediate impact 98 00:07:18,660 --> 00:07:21,680 on the tour, because you got to keep the business going, 99 00:07:21,681 --> 00:07:23,819 the tour going, the album sales, everything, 100 00:07:23,820 --> 00:07:25,146 and the impact of that. 101 00:07:25,267 --> 00:07:27,439 So it was pretty- it was pretty tense. 102 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,799 We went into crisis mode, 103 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,200 both with our team and the PR team. 104 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:36,400 But ultimately, the story was so huge, 105 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,870 it was going to get out, no matter what we did. 106 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:40,840 There was no stopping it. 107 00:07:41,121 --> 00:07:45,468 [dramatic music playing] 108 00:07:45,550 --> 00:07:48,669 In Southern California, the press, police, lawyers, 109 00:07:48,670 --> 00:07:51,109 and private investigators are in orbit tonight 110 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:53,700 over an investigation of child abuse allegations 111 00:07:53,701 --> 00:07:55,869 involving superstar Michael Jackson. 112 00:07:55,870 --> 00:07:58,849 There's still no comment from Michael Jackson this morning, 113 00:07:58,850 --> 00:08:01,110 and Los Angeles police aren't saying much, 114 00:08:01,111 --> 00:08:02,929 but they have confirmed reports 115 00:08:02,930 --> 00:08:05,590 of a criminal investigation of the pop superstar. 116 00:08:06,189 --> 00:08:07,729 All hell broke loose. 117 00:08:07,730 --> 00:08:10,469 Television station KNBC in Los Angeles 118 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:12,229 first broke the story last night, 119 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:15,610 saying that a mother had alleged Jackson abused her child. 120 00:08:15,970 --> 00:08:18,590 August 17th, the Los Angeles Police Department 121 00:08:18,591 --> 00:08:21,189 initiated a criminal investigation 122 00:08:21,190 --> 00:08:23,150 of entertainer Michael Jackson. 123 00:08:24,050 --> 00:08:27,330 Every news channel, every hour, 124 00:08:27,750 --> 00:08:29,500 the top story was Michael Jackson. 125 00:08:29,501 --> 00:08:32,009 [reporter 5] Confidential documents obtained by NBC News 126 00:08:32,010 --> 00:08:34,869 quoted the boy's reference to acts of oral sex 127 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:35,949 and masturbation. 128 00:08:35,950 --> 00:08:37,788 [reporter 6] The allegations now surfacing 129 00:08:37,789 --> 00:08:40,210 are ugly enough to shatter any icon's image. 130 00:08:40,211 --> 00:08:42,269 Kids everywhere are talking about 131 00:08:42,270 --> 00:08:45,040 the scandalous accusations, hoping they're not true. 132 00:08:46,799 --> 00:08:50,139 [reporter 7] Has Michael Jackson ever molested a child, 133 00:08:50,140 --> 00:08:52,358 ever done anything improper with a child? 134 00:08:52,359 --> 00:08:53,379 No, never. 135 00:08:53,380 --> 00:08:55,190 - No, never. No, never. - That's crazy. 136 00:08:55,939 --> 00:08:58,760 My son is not guilty. He need a trial. 137 00:08:58,940 --> 00:09:01,410 These people aren't waiting. They're trying to- 138 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,540 They're trying him. 139 00:09:04,039 --> 00:09:05,740 That's right. And I'm tired of it. 140 00:09:05,889 --> 00:09:08,726 [indistinct chatter] 141 00:09:15,149 --> 00:09:19,870 [crowd chanting] Open the window. Come out the window. 142 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,860 [Shana] Everything was suddenly bad. 143 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,520 Everything was... 144 00:09:38,380 --> 00:09:39,430 emotional. 145 00:09:40,299 --> 00:09:43,579 Talking to Michael was different because he was different. 146 00:09:43,580 --> 00:09:46,259 Suddenly, he was no longer the happy Michael 147 00:09:46,260 --> 00:09:47,560 that I used to talk to. 148 00:09:47,939 --> 00:09:49,319 He sounded depressed. 149 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:53,059 I felt like it was over, like there was no way 150 00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:56,319 he could come back from these terrible things being said. 151 00:09:56,447 --> 00:10:00,905 [dramatic music playing] 152 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,120 [Rosibel] Eventually, he came back to America. 153 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:37,099 We had the information from the victim about Michael's body 154 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:40,840 and specifically the markings on his body. 155 00:10:41,340 --> 00:10:45,619 So the only way that a child would see that 156 00:10:45,620 --> 00:10:48,300 is if Michael was nude. 157 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,299 Then our unit prepared a search warrant to search 158 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:53,960 or to view Michael's body. 159 00:10:54,260 --> 00:10:56,719 And this included the genitals. 160 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,159 We explaed to him, "We have a search warrant 161 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,560 signed by the judge... 162 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:04,720 to take pictures of your private parts." 163 00:11:05,379 --> 00:11:07,249 He said, "You assholes." [chuckles] 164 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,060 The outcome... 165 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,650 was that... 166 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,620 evidence that was provided by Jordan Chandler... 167 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,750 - it was confirmed. - [somber music playing] 168 00:11:21,426 --> 00:11:22,670 [man] May I help you? 169 00:11:22,750 --> 00:11:26,870 [reporter 8] Yeah, we'd like to talk to Michael Jackson. 170 00:11:26,990 --> 00:11:28,040 Has he come back? 171 00:11:29,029 --> 00:11:31,139 - [man] No comment, sir. - No comment, huh? 172 00:11:31,140 --> 00:11:33,449 I don't necessarily think he's guilty, 173 00:11:33,450 --> 00:11:35,768 but I don't necessarily think he's innocent either 174 00:11:35,769 --> 00:11:37,610 because I don't know. 175 00:11:37,611 --> 00:11:39,609 Well, I don't know if he's guilty or not, 176 00:11:39,610 --> 00:11:41,869 but I think that he needs to come back and face the charges. 177 00:11:41,870 --> 00:11:43,447 He's looking pretty guilty right now. 178 00:11:43,448 --> 00:11:46,218 - [camera shutters clicking] - [indistinct chatter] 179 00:11:46,261 --> 00:11:50,329 [reporter 9] There is real fear tonight 180 00:11:50,330 --> 00:11:52,069 that the catastrophic publicity 181 00:11:52,070 --> 00:11:55,830 will result in the destruction of a billion dollar empire 182 00:11:56,190 --> 00:11:58,050 and the ruin of a man. 183 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,459 Sony stock has fallen 184 00:12:04,460 --> 00:12:06,818 because investors are very much concerned 185 00:12:06,819 --> 00:12:09,219 that the huge investment that they have in Michael Jackson 186 00:12:09,220 --> 00:12:11,000 is in fact not going to pay off. 187 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:15,299 [Chris] When the allegations surfaced... 188 00:12:17,799 --> 00:12:22,479 I read them, watched them on TV like everyone else did. 189 00:12:24,269 --> 00:12:28,000 And I felt that they were extremely unfair. 190 00:12:28,599 --> 00:12:31,520 Michael Jackson was unequivocally 191 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,479 the biggest artist in the company. 192 00:12:37,050 --> 00:12:38,930 And if he's not succeeding... 193 00:12:40,910 --> 00:12:43,050 guess what- jobs get lost. 194 00:12:43,164 --> 00:12:44,854 [indistinct chatter] 195 00:12:44,855 --> 00:12:47,148 [reporter 10] Is Michael Jackson going to make any statement? 196 00:12:47,149 --> 00:12:49,609 He's got a whole cadre of international cameras 197 00:12:49,610 --> 00:12:50,660 there every night. 198 00:12:50,723 --> 00:12:53,175 [dramatic music playing] 199 00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:59,810 [Gregg] Up to that point, Michael had been laying low. 200 00:13:00,740 --> 00:13:03,000 But once the allegations are out there, 201 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,159 you can't take them back again. 202 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,840 And so we needed to get in front of the public... 203 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,600 to unequivocally deny these allegations. 204 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,939 Michael Jackson came out of seclusion today 205 00:13:17,940 --> 00:13:19,040 without leaving home. 206 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,778 The pop star angrily rejected accusations 207 00:13:21,779 --> 00:13:23,159 he molested a young boy 208 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,380 and lashed out at police and the media. 209 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,579 There have been many disgusting statements made recently 210 00:13:30,580 --> 00:13:33,700 concerning allegations of improper conduct on my part. 211 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:36,780 These statements about me are totally false. 212 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,219 At every opportunity, the media has dissected 213 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:41,979 and manipulated these allegations 214 00:13:41,980 --> 00:13:43,560 to reach their own conclusions. 215 00:13:43,980 --> 00:13:46,939 I ask all of you to wait and hear the truth 216 00:13:46,940 --> 00:13:49,000 before you label or condemn me. 217 00:13:49,460 --> 00:13:52,170 Don't treat me like a criminal, because I am innocent. 218 00:13:52,171 --> 00:13:56,819 [Sandra] Jackson's defiant declaration of innocence 219 00:13:56,820 --> 00:13:59,279 comes as the latest counterpoint in a case 220 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,720 that's saturated with rumor, innuendo, 221 00:14:02,020 --> 00:14:04,720 and almost daily revelations about the singer. 222 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:08,040 Separating fact from fiction can be difficult. 223 00:14:08,155 --> 00:14:12,422 - [indistinct chatter] - [suspenseful music playing] 224 00:14:21,850 --> 00:14:24,009 For years, I've been working for Michael... 225 00:14:24,010 --> 00:14:27,169 who unfortunately has been the victim of this 226 00:14:27,170 --> 00:14:29,160 and other types of extortion attempts. 227 00:14:29,930 --> 00:14:33,570 The demand for $20 million was made and presented. 228 00:14:33,930 --> 00:14:36,370 It was flatly and consistently refused. 229 00:14:36,750 --> 00:14:38,500 Many people try to extort Michael... 230 00:14:38,501 --> 00:14:40,849 because of who he is and, you know, 231 00:14:40,850 --> 00:14:41,908 the amount of money he has. 232 00:14:41,909 --> 00:14:43,779 And these people wanted $20 million. 233 00:14:44,070 --> 00:14:46,190 As far as the victim is concerned, 234 00:14:46,350 --> 00:14:51,970 I did not get anything as far as any, like, money, motivation. 235 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:55,370 However, the parents were a different story. 236 00:14:55,371 --> 00:14:56,809 [reporter 11] The Hollywood Reporter, 237 00:14:56,810 --> 00:14:58,309 an entertainment trade paper, 238 00:14:58,310 --> 00:14:59,709 said today that the boy's father 239 00:14:59,710 --> 00:15:01,189 had negotiated with Jackson 240 00:15:01,190 --> 00:15:03,470 for a $20 million movie deal. 241 00:15:03,471 --> 00:15:06,189 The father is a prominent Beverly Hills dentist 242 00:15:06,190 --> 00:15:07,670 and part-time screenwriter. 243 00:15:08,430 --> 00:15:11,530 CBS News has obtained a taped phone conversation. 244 00:15:11,789 --> 00:15:14,810 The voice is reportedly the father of the 13-year-old boy. 245 00:15:15,090 --> 00:15:17,440 [Evan] If I go through with this, I win big time. 246 00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:18,889 I will get everything I want. 247 00:15:19,190 --> 00:15:22,310 The father did, in fact, ask for money... 248 00:15:23,450 --> 00:15:25,509 to keep the situation quiet. 249 00:15:25,710 --> 00:15:29,730 So it did hurt the case a little bit. 250 00:15:30,009 --> 00:15:32,869 I think it's pathetic that somebody would go after 251 00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:35,670 someone like Michael Jackson with such vigor, 252 00:15:35,770 --> 00:15:37,330 and it's obvious what they want. 253 00:15:37,331 --> 00:15:39,669 And it seems obvious to me that he is innocent. 254 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:41,148 I know that there's a lot of people in this business 255 00:15:41,149 --> 00:15:43,079 that try and take advantage of people. 256 00:15:43,450 --> 00:15:46,990 And, you know, I'm sure that it will all work out, 257 00:15:46,991 --> 00:15:48,309 and I'm sure that he's innocent, you know, 258 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:50,610 but only God knows the truth, you know. 259 00:15:50,761 --> 00:15:53,624 [crowd cheering] 260 00:15:53,625 --> 00:15:55,649 [Shana] More and more, 261 00:15:55,650 --> 00:15:57,940 people started to question the allegations. 262 00:16:00,190 --> 00:16:04,029 So the management team started capitalizing on that momentum. 263 00:16:05,809 --> 00:16:10,690 The main strategy was to endear Michael... 264 00:16:12,270 --> 00:16:15,309 to the Black community and to get the Black community 265 00:16:15,310 --> 00:16:16,928 back on Michael's side. 266 00:16:16,929 --> 00:16:19,649 Because once the Black community is behind you, 267 00:16:20,029 --> 00:16:23,049 you got it, because, you know, we're a big group. 268 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:29,529 And race relations at that time, it was a hotbed. 269 00:16:29,618 --> 00:16:31,734 [police siren blaring] 270 00:16:32,311 --> 00:16:35,359 [reporter 12] Parts of Los Angeles 271 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,380 erupted in unrest after a jury acquitted 272 00:16:38,660 --> 00:16:41,239 four white Los Angeles police officers 273 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,060 over the videotape beating of Rodney King, a Black motorist. 274 00:16:45,353 --> 00:16:47,949 [somber music playing] 275 00:16:48,061 --> 00:16:51,822 [indistinct clamoring] 276 00:16:54,341 --> 00:16:58,269 [woman] What happened with Rodney King, 277 00:16:58,270 --> 00:16:59,710 it doesn't make no sense to me. 278 00:16:59,711 --> 00:17:02,569 They're treating Black people like we're dogs, you know, 279 00:17:02,570 --> 00:17:03,830 like we can't get nowhere. 280 00:17:03,910 --> 00:17:06,789 We have no rights that the white man respect. 281 00:17:07,609 --> 00:17:09,899 [reporter 13] Race is tearing America apart. 282 00:17:10,051 --> 00:17:13,398 [reporter 14] Now more than ever, 283 00:17:13,399 --> 00:17:14,679 minority Americans believe 284 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,440 there are two kinds of justice, 285 00:17:17,019 --> 00:17:19,839 the white kind and the kind they get. 286 00:17:23,259 --> 00:17:27,859 Someone was friends with this African-American attorney 287 00:17:27,860 --> 00:17:30,459 named Johnnie Cochran. And so he suggested 288 00:17:30,460 --> 00:17:35,139 that Johnnie would be the best person for Michael's case, 289 00:17:35,140 --> 00:17:37,190 not only because he's Black... [chuckles] 290 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:40,040 ...but also because he was brilliant. 291 00:17:40,041 --> 00:17:41,819 Mr. Cochran, let me start with you. 292 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:43,769 Why do you think it was important for Michael Jackson 293 00:17:43,770 --> 00:17:44,820 to speak out now? 294 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,479 Well, I think, Katie, that after months of being barraged 295 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,700 with negative attacks, it was time. 296 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,440 Everyone who was on Michael's team knew that having 297 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,040 a Black face as the front man for the defense would... 298 00:18:01,940 --> 00:18:06,040 bring the Black community to Michael's defense as well. 299 00:18:06,041 --> 00:18:07,559 [audience cheering, applauding] 300 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,159 [announcer 2] The king of pop, rock and soul, 301 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,740 Mr. Michael Jackson. 302 00:18:11,741 --> 00:18:17,589 [Shana] Michael's first public appearance after his statement 303 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:21,969 about the allegations was at the NAACP Image Awards. 304 00:18:22,409 --> 00:18:24,339 And that's the National Association 305 00:18:24,340 --> 00:18:26,641 for the Advancement of Colored People. 306 00:18:26,642 --> 00:18:30,496 [audience cheering, applauding] 307 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:32,280 [Shana] I was in the audience 308 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,140 when Michael walked out on that stage, 309 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,980 the house went crazy. 310 00:18:40,059 --> 00:18:41,940 Everyone was in support of Michael. 311 00:18:42,319 --> 00:18:44,549 No one wanted to believe these allegations. 312 00:18:47,099 --> 00:18:51,239 For decades, the NAACP had stood at the forefront 313 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,060 of the struggle for equal justice under the law 314 00:18:54,419 --> 00:18:56,219 for all people in our land. 315 00:18:56,459 --> 00:19:00,958 And his speech was based on being a proud Black man 316 00:19:00,959 --> 00:19:03,799 and how, you know, we have to stick together 317 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,560 against racial inequality and injustice. 318 00:19:09,099 --> 00:19:12,198 Everyone is presumed to be innocent and totally innocent 319 00:19:12,199 --> 00:19:15,539 until they are charged with a crime and been convicted 320 00:19:15,540 --> 00:19:17,950 - by a jury of their peers. - [audience cheering] 321 00:19:19,568 --> 00:19:24,950 [dramatic music playing] 322 00:19:28,049 --> 00:19:30,159 [Shana] Oh, it was such a powerful speech. 323 00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:39,069 With all of the stuff 324 00:19:39,070 --> 00:19:41,610 that was happening to the Black community, 325 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,860 it felt like Michael's innocence was important... 326 00:19:48,919 --> 00:19:50,480 and it was what we needed. 327 00:19:50,601 --> 00:19:54,451 [dramatic music playing] 328 00:19:57,459 --> 00:20:00,539 [Shana] Everybody wanted him to be back on top. 329 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,599 The family of a teenage boy is dropping its charge 330 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,820 that Michael Jackson molested the boy. 331 00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:19,719 Larry Kell tells us the civil suit is now over. 332 00:20:19,816 --> 00:20:24,226 [suspenseful music playing] 333 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:29,398 We wish to jointly announce a mutual resolution 334 00:20:29,399 --> 00:20:30,679 of this lawsuit. 335 00:20:30,959 --> 00:20:34,039 This boy wanted to get on with his life. 336 00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:41,379 When that case was settled, and I believe that the payout 337 00:20:41,380 --> 00:20:45,398 for that settlement was $20 million or maybe 338 00:20:45,399 --> 00:20:46,959 a little more over $20 million, 339 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,859 the family accepted the settlement. 340 00:20:50,439 --> 00:20:54,359 The resolution of this case is in no way 341 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,120 an admission of guilt by Michael Jackson. 342 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:03,519 Being a megastar like he was, he had the advantage 343 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,458 with money, with attorneys, with really coming out and doing 344 00:21:07,459 --> 00:21:10,500 pretty much whatever he wanted in order to defend himself. 345 00:21:12,199 --> 00:21:14,309 So that was pretty much the end of our case. 346 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,740 I felt bad because Rosi and I, 347 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:22,139 we were certain that we had a good case. 348 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,659 But when the victim doesn't want to testify... 349 00:21:28,139 --> 00:21:31,149 there is a saying that says, no victim, no crime. [chuckles] 350 00:21:34,059 --> 00:21:35,759 So, nothing that we could do. 351 00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:46,450 [Richard] Read all about it! Hollywood sex scandals! 352 00:21:46,830 --> 00:21:48,649 Heidi's little black book, 353 00:21:48,769 --> 00:21:51,609 The Hollywood Hooker and Heidi-Gate. 354 00:21:52,529 --> 00:21:56,169 Lonnie Anderson says Bert's a dud in bed. 355 00:21:56,329 --> 00:21:57,379 Uh-oh. 356 00:21:57,380 --> 00:22:00,088 [reporter 15] In this billion dollar business, 357 00:22:00,089 --> 00:22:02,259 there's only one story that's guaranteed. 358 00:22:03,009 --> 00:22:06,289 A big name in trouble. That's the best news of all. 359 00:22:06,329 --> 00:22:10,048 But of course, the one that's grabbing the headlines 360 00:22:10,049 --> 00:22:13,750 right now are the allegations about Michael Jackson, 361 00:22:13,930 --> 00:22:15,740 the biggest superstar in the world. 362 00:22:15,741 --> 00:22:17,829 [reporter 15] Michael Jackson is our window 363 00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:19,270 into the new news business. 364 00:22:19,810 --> 00:22:22,908 And the magazine shows, talk shows, news chats 365 00:22:22,909 --> 00:22:24,649 that feed off tabloid truth. 366 00:22:24,970 --> 00:22:28,809 Michael Jackson, violator or victim? 367 00:22:28,810 --> 00:22:30,868 [interviewer] What do you think about Michael? 368 00:22:30,869 --> 00:22:33,930 Well, no, I think it's true. 369 00:22:33,931 --> 00:22:35,358 [woman 2] He settled for all that money? 370 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,148 He settled for all that amount of money. 371 00:22:37,149 --> 00:22:40,128 I think something's up when he settles for over $10 million 372 00:22:40,129 --> 00:22:41,179 to shut someone up. 373 00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:42,549 I don't know, it's a shame because I think 374 00:22:42,550 --> 00:22:45,774 Michael's been dragged through the mud a lot. 375 00:22:45,775 --> 00:22:48,328 I don't know if he's a victim or if he did it or not, 376 00:22:48,329 --> 00:22:51,670 but he's lost that wholesome image forever, you know? 377 00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:57,429 [Shana] The allegations really changed 378 00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:59,750 how the public, I think, thought of him. 379 00:23:01,269 --> 00:23:05,190 And Michael had to kind of rehabilitate that image. 380 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,999 People had been obsessed 381 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,500 with Michael's sexuality his whole life. 382 00:23:16,660 --> 00:23:18,959 And his managers thought it would be cool 383 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,640 if the press found out that Michael had a girlfriend. 384 00:23:24,179 --> 00:23:29,017 [suspenseful music playing] 385 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,230 [Shana] Michael and Lisa started dating 386 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,800 soon after the allegations had been settled. 387 00:23:42,601 --> 00:23:45,131 [Hugo speaking Spanish] ...Michael Joseph Jackson... 388 00:23:45,151 --> 00:23:47,208 [clerk of the court] Lisa Marie Presley. 389 00:23:47,299 --> 00:23:51,058 [Shana] He knew that marrying Elvis Presley's daughter 390 00:23:51,059 --> 00:23:53,500 would be headlines everywhere. 391 00:23:53,501 --> 00:23:55,459 Everyone would be talking about that, 392 00:23:55,460 --> 00:24:00,020 and they'd no longer talk about this horrible time in his life. 393 00:24:00,021 --> 00:24:02,301 [clerk of the court] With this ring, I do wed. 394 00:24:02,302 --> 00:24:03,369 With this ring, I do wed. 395 00:24:03,370 --> 00:24:05,739 You've heard the talk for weeks. It's surprising, 396 00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:07,340 and it's apparently true. 397 00:24:07,341 --> 00:24:09,579 The daughter of Elvis Presley confirms today 398 00:24:09,580 --> 00:24:11,699 she is now married to Michael Jackson. 399 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,859 Let's go to Vince Dementri in New York. Vince? 400 00:24:14,860 --> 00:24:17,558 John, hopefully you can see behind me the throngs 401 00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:19,660 of stargazers right behind me. 402 00:24:19,740 --> 00:24:22,579 We are just outside of the world-famous Trump Tower, 403 00:24:22,580 --> 00:24:25,019 where Donald Trump tells us, yes, indeed, 404 00:24:25,020 --> 00:24:28,159 that Lisa Marie Presley and her new beau Michael Jackson 405 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,850 are holed up here on the top floor. 406 00:24:30,220 --> 00:24:32,100 Well, I'm very, very happy for them. 407 00:24:32,340 --> 00:24:33,390 I think it's great. 408 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,779 They're very happy, and I think everybody's happy. 409 00:24:37,940 --> 00:24:39,020 They're great people. 410 00:24:42,660 --> 00:24:46,040 [Gottfried] I first met Michael in 1988. 411 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:49,920 Michael was on tour in Germany at that time. 412 00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:52,379 And so they called me and said 413 00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:53,899 that Michael is a big fan of mine 414 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:55,220 and he would love to meet me. 415 00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:57,960 And we hit it off. 416 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,790 And he got to know the whole family. 417 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,700 I also knew Lisa Marie Presley... 418 00:25:05,701 --> 00:25:08,719 because I spent lots of time in Los Angeles. 419 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,660 So I knew them separately. 420 00:25:11,661 --> 00:25:14,158 And then later Lisa came to me 421 00:25:14,159 --> 00:25:18,079 one day and said, "Look, Michael is hitting on me 422 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,120 and he actually wants to marry me. 423 00:25:20,121 --> 00:25:21,859 What do you think? Should I do that?" 424 00:25:21,860 --> 00:25:23,100 So I said, "Go for it." 425 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,259 For him, it was also, he liked Lisa 426 00:25:26,260 --> 00:25:29,100 because she was the daughter of the King. 427 00:25:29,101 --> 00:25:31,924 So he was also the king, King of Pop, yeah. 428 00:25:31,925 --> 00:25:34,211 [crowd cheering] 429 00:25:40,350 --> 00:25:41,990 [Shana] This is a big deal. 430 00:25:42,709 --> 00:25:45,349 We had never seen him get romantic with a woman 431 00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:47,110 like this, ever. 432 00:25:47,870 --> 00:25:49,510 I'm very happy to be here. 433 00:25:51,070 --> 00:25:54,730 And just think, nobody thought this would last. 434 00:25:55,301 --> 00:25:58,012 [crowd cheering] 435 00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:06,689 [Shana] It did work in the way that Michael wanted it to work, 436 00:26:06,969 --> 00:26:08,899 in that everyone was talking about it. 437 00:26:10,709 --> 00:26:14,629 But at the same time, the public wasn't really buying it. 438 00:26:14,909 --> 00:26:15,959 It's all a cover-up. 439 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,028 It's all a cover-up from the little-child thing. 440 00:26:18,029 --> 00:26:19,949 That's what I think it is. It's about it. 441 00:26:19,950 --> 00:26:20,988 [reporter 16] You don't think it's true love? 442 00:26:20,989 --> 00:26:22,039 No. 443 00:26:22,129 --> 00:26:23,389 [man 2] I think it's a sham. 444 00:26:23,390 --> 00:26:26,168 A heterosexual marriage would certainly take 445 00:26:26,169 --> 00:26:28,329 some of the heat off being accused 446 00:26:28,330 --> 00:26:29,674 of being a homosexual pedophile. 447 00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:33,774 [indistinct chatter] 448 00:26:33,775 --> 00:26:35,159 [Shana] But Michael and Lisa 449 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,720 were only together for around 18 months. 450 00:26:41,389 --> 00:26:44,190 It's splitsville for Graceland and Neverland. 451 00:26:44,191 --> 00:26:46,669 Many of you may find this hard to believe, 452 00:26:46,670 --> 00:26:48,709 but Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson 453 00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:50,010 are getting a divorce. 454 00:26:50,011 --> 00:26:52,548 So, Tony, it looks like the gloved one 455 00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:54,789 is no longer the loved one. 456 00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:58,050 Oh, such a sad story. Sorry to hear that. 457 00:26:58,150 --> 00:27:00,440 Sorry to see that. What a shock. What a surprise. 458 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,010 [Gregg] It was kind of hard to watch. 459 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,099 He was trying to maintain his position 460 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:12,720 as, like, the biggest superstar in the world, 461 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,260 and it wasn't quite working. 462 00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:20,159 [reporter 17] This is a man who changed the music industry. 463 00:27:21,179 --> 00:27:23,359 He is a musical genius. 464 00:27:24,699 --> 00:27:27,539 And people don't think of him in that sense anymore. 465 00:27:27,639 --> 00:27:28,959 They think of him as a freak. 466 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,958 [reporter 18] Is there any way that he can lift himself 467 00:27:31,959 --> 00:27:34,482 out of this trough that he has largely dug for himself? 468 00:27:34,483 --> 00:27:39,024 [dramatic music playing] 469 00:27:50,313 --> 00:27:53,625 [soft music playing] 470 00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:06,860 [Gottfried] When he was working on the HIStory album... 471 00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:09,050 Michael called me and said... 472 00:28:09,490 --> 00:28:13,090 Look, I want to use some of your paintings for the artwork. 473 00:28:14,810 --> 00:28:18,350 That was the painting that he really liked. 474 00:28:19,050 --> 00:28:21,050 And then spontaneously he wrote... 475 00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:23,950 this poem directly on the picture. 476 00:28:25,730 --> 00:28:29,890 "With such confusion, don't it make you want to scream?" 477 00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:35,350 "You try to cope with every lie, to scrutinize somebody." 478 00:28:35,570 --> 00:28:39,870 "Please have mercy, because I just can't take it." 479 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,518 If you listen to the lyrics and the songs 480 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:50,940 and the overall vibe of the tracks on HIStory , 481 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,540 they're very aggressive, they're very defensive. 482 00:28:54,625 --> 00:28:56,675 ? Beat me, hate me You can never break me ? 483 00:28:57,133 --> 00:29:00,321 ? Will me, thrill me You can never kill me ? 484 00:29:01,979 --> 00:29:04,869 [Gregg] Even the "Scream" video is very dark for Michael. 485 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,900 Then for the HIStory album promo, 486 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,880 Michael chose a dictator-esque image. 487 00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:17,939 He's got these military troops marching behind him, 488 00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:19,760 and a god-like aura. 489 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,220 That's what he wanted to push out there, still on top, 490 00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:30,100 still the biggest pop superstar in the history of music. 491 00:29:30,101 --> 00:29:33,739 [reporter 19] Tower Bridge was raised this afternoon to allow 492 00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:37,479 a 30-foot statue of rockstar Michael Jackson to pass along 493 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,770 - the Thames on a barge. - [children cheering] 494 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:42,670 [woman 3] I think it's brilliant. 495 00:29:42,671 --> 00:29:45,559 It's just the best thing that's happened on the River Thames. 496 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,659 He's a mega star, yeah. They call him the King of Pop, 497 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:49,119 so if he can afford to do this, why not? 498 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,431 [dramatic music playing] 499 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:54,659 [Gregg] For the HIStory tour, Michael decided to focus 500 00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:56,140 on his fan base abroad. 501 00:29:57,620 --> 00:30:01,420 And his popularity continued over in Europe, in the UK, 502 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,299 Asia, versus the US, where it was kind of slipping 503 00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:06,939 a little bit because of the allegations 504 00:30:06,940 --> 00:30:08,437 and all the media circus around that. 505 00:30:08,438 --> 00:30:12,456 [crowd cheering, chanting] Michael! Michael! Michael! 506 00:30:19,859 --> 00:30:21,640 [sobs] It's like a dream come true. 507 00:30:21,714 --> 00:30:25,425 I touched him. I'm not going to wash my hand. 508 00:30:25,537 --> 00:30:26,983 [all chuckle] 509 00:30:28,261 --> 00:30:32,069 [Gottfried] I remember this one time, 510 00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:34,130 I was with Michael in Budapest. 511 00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:38,350 And the hotel was surrounded, 512 00:30:39,330 --> 00:30:41,730 under siege by thousands of young people. 513 00:30:41,811 --> 00:30:46,867 [crowd chanting] Michael! Michael! 514 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:49,789 And what he did, he draw the curtain a little bit 515 00:30:49,888 --> 00:30:51,208 and then he had his glove on... 516 00:30:51,718 --> 00:30:52,883 and people screamed. 517 00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:55,170 It was like an explosion down there. 518 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,496 [crowd cheering] 519 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,640 He was laughing. He said, "Oh, my God, look, 520 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,140 do you hear? Do you hear?" 521 00:31:10,309 --> 00:31:13,489 I think there's a deep desire to look up for people 522 00:31:13,490 --> 00:31:16,289 that are bigger than life, yeah, as role models 523 00:31:16,290 --> 00:31:18,210 or as somebody you can worship. I mean... 524 00:31:18,770 --> 00:31:21,430 I think that's what mankind needs. 525 00:31:21,970 --> 00:31:23,490 But I think the danger is... 526 00:31:24,550 --> 00:31:26,850 when everybody worships you... 527 00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:29,749 is that you start to believe it 528 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:31,768 in a way that you start to worship yourself. 529 00:31:31,769 --> 00:31:33,097 And I think that's very dangerous. 530 00:31:33,098 --> 00:31:34,480 [indistinct chatter] 531 00:31:34,481 --> 00:31:36,033 - Can I have a hug, please? - [Michael] Sure. 532 00:31:36,034 --> 00:31:38,684 - Please, may I hug you? Please. - [Michael] Of course. 533 00:31:38,995 --> 00:31:41,364 - [crying] I love you. - I love you more. 534 00:31:41,365 --> 00:31:43,029 [Gottfried] But he was enjoying that. 535 00:31:43,030 --> 00:31:45,810 He liked to have that effect on people. 536 00:31:46,213 --> 00:31:48,318 - [Michael] I love you. - I love you. 537 00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:50,809 - [guard] Sir, this way. - [indistinct chatter] 538 00:31:50,828 --> 00:31:53,658 - Germany loves you, Michael. - [Michael] I love Germany. 539 00:31:55,605 --> 00:31:58,034 [sobs] Oh, my God. 540 00:31:58,763 --> 00:32:02,001 [somber music playing] 541 00:32:08,235 --> 00:32:11,150 [Michael] 542 00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:41,350 [crowd cheering] 543 00:32:51,819 --> 00:32:56,894 - [fan] Okay. Okay, okay, okay. - [guard 2] Stay on this side. 544 00:32:56,895 --> 00:32:58,109 [fan] Okay, of course. 545 00:32:58,190 --> 00:33:01,870 [guard 2] Stay in this corner please. 546 00:33:01,871 --> 00:33:03,345 - Stay in this corner please. - [Michael] What do you want? 547 00:33:03,346 --> 00:33:06,384 - [guard 2] Stay in that corner. - [fan 2] Okay, Michael. 548 00:33:06,472 --> 00:33:08,078 [indistinct chatter] 549 00:33:08,164 --> 00:33:14,328 - [guard 3] Step back. - [indistinct chatter] 550 00:33:26,612 --> 00:33:27,871 [fan 3] Go, go. 551 00:33:27,872 --> 00:33:30,329 [Shmuley] When I met Michael, 552 00:33:30,330 --> 00:33:33,630 I saw that he was addicted to fame. 553 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:39,440 I was a well-known rabbi. 554 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,440 And Michael and I had become friends. 555 00:33:44,180 --> 00:33:46,020 Michael really needed to be loved. 556 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:51,320 And he chose to be loved really in an unhealthy way, 557 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,880 which was through superstardom and the devotion of fans. 558 00:33:58,171 --> 00:34:00,865 - [indistinct chatter] - [somber music playing] 559 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,599 [Shmuley] I said to him, "You've made the mistake 560 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,779 of substituting love 561 00:34:07,780 --> 00:34:11,040 for this cheap forgery called attention. 562 00:34:11,041 --> 00:34:15,659 And attention is never a good substitute for love. 563 00:34:15,660 --> 00:34:16,710 It's never real." 564 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,759 This attention became an addiction 565 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,520 because he interpreted it as love. 566 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,139 And it became a monster. 567 00:34:25,924 --> 00:34:28,449 [indistinct chatter] 568 00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:36,639 [Shmuley] I felt that one of my principal objectives 569 00:34:37,478 --> 00:34:40,119 was to tether him back to humility. 570 00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:47,469 And so our conversations became kind of therapy. 571 00:34:52,250 --> 00:34:54,310 He wanted every word... 572 00:34:55,469 --> 00:34:56,669 recorded for posterity. 573 00:34:57,049 --> 00:35:01,210 We recorded it on these two flimsy dictum machines, 574 00:35:01,310 --> 00:35:03,509 you know, on these tiny little tapes. 575 00:35:06,713 --> 00:35:10,291 [Michael] 576 00:35:14,202 --> 00:35:18,114 [crowd cheering, chanting] Michael! Michael! Michael! 577 00:35:32,884 --> 00:35:34,049 [Michael] 578 00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:49,630 [Shmuley] He needed something to live for. 579 00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:52,710 And as he explained it to me, 580 00:35:53,170 --> 00:35:54,990 he always wanted to be around kids. 581 00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:57,060 He loved the innocence of a child. 582 00:35:57,570 --> 00:36:00,030 He loved the creativity of a child. 583 00:36:00,031 --> 00:36:03,129 Because for him, the adult world was people wanting money 584 00:36:03,130 --> 00:36:05,549 from him and people wanting to know him 585 00:36:05,550 --> 00:36:06,810 for all the wrong reasons. 586 00:36:07,044 --> 00:36:10,110 [indistinct chatter] 587 00:36:11,455 --> 00:36:14,647 [soft music playing] 588 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,130 [Shmuley] At that time in his life, 589 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,119 I think that Michael wanted to be a father. 590 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,300 Because kids, as long as you give them unconditional love, 591 00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:31,580 they really give it back. 592 00:36:31,581 --> 00:36:34,279 They are mirror reflections of the love that we give them. 593 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,659 And he was going to give them the greatest love. 594 00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:38,119 And they did. And that's what happened. 595 00:36:51,811 --> 00:36:53,506 [indistinct chatter] 596 00:36:53,507 --> 00:36:55,959 - Something to wear. That's nice. - [woman 4] Teletubbies. 597 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,100 [Michael] Who is that? 598 00:36:57,101 --> 00:36:58,578 La La. 599 00:36:58,579 --> 00:36:59,740 [Michael] That's right, it's La La. 600 00:36:59,741 --> 00:37:01,150 [all chuckle] 601 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,116 [soft music playing] 602 00:37:10,321 --> 00:37:13,669 [Shmuley] I think having children 603 00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:15,480 gave him a renewed sense of purpose. 604 00:37:16,290 --> 00:37:19,630 A renewed sense of energy and direction. 605 00:37:27,610 --> 00:37:29,110 [Michael] That's a great shot. 606 00:37:29,170 --> 00:37:30,220 [man 3] It is, it is. 607 00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:35,180 [woman 4] It's okay. 608 00:37:38,581 --> 00:37:41,469 [Michael] I want to be successful 609 00:37:41,470 --> 00:37:42,690 for being a great father. 610 00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:49,699 I want them to say, "We felt completely loved, 611 00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:51,200 and he was, like, incredible." 612 00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:56,789 That's my biggest dream is one day for Prince and Paris 613 00:37:56,849 --> 00:38:00,190 just to say to somebody, "He was the best dad." 614 00:38:01,489 --> 00:38:04,369 - [woman 4] One, two, three. - [all] Surprise! 615 00:38:04,452 --> 00:38:07,791 [all cheering] 616 00:38:08,416 --> 00:38:10,670 ? Happy birthday to you ? 617 00:38:11,797 --> 00:38:15,427 ? Happy birthday, dear Prince ? 618 00:38:16,179 --> 00:38:19,119 [Dieter] I've been working with Michael for four years 619 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,939 by the time he had his children. 620 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,960 When Prince and Paris came along... 621 00:38:29,973 --> 00:38:31,160 I saw a different... 622 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:32,760 a different person. 623 00:38:32,761 --> 00:38:34,749 [camera shutter clicking] 624 00:38:34,750 --> 00:38:37,789 Now can do one where we all just point in the camera like this. 625 00:38:37,891 --> 00:38:38,941 It's all of us. 626 00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:42,010 [Dieter] His life was now about the children. 627 00:38:42,850 --> 00:38:45,090 That was his priority. 628 00:38:47,110 --> 00:38:51,550 And he was getting more and more absolutely clear 629 00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:53,210 about his future. 630 00:38:53,807 --> 00:38:54,947 He was saying, "Dieter... 631 00:38:56,889 --> 00:39:00,269 I did everything I could do in my life for the music. 632 00:39:00,790 --> 00:39:02,510 And I think I did it well 633 00:39:02,511 --> 00:39:03,948 and everybody made a lot of money." 634 00:39:03,949 --> 00:39:06,070 But new people coming. 635 00:39:06,849 --> 00:39:08,050 Other music is coming. 636 00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:12,369 And he had a feeling he will never be 637 00:39:12,370 --> 00:39:13,950 successful like he was. 638 00:39:14,690 --> 00:39:16,110 And he was fine with it. 639 00:39:16,869 --> 00:39:20,590 Michael said he didn't want to be a trained monkey forever. 640 00:39:21,269 --> 00:39:22,319 It's over. 641 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,320 We will give it to [indistinct]. Come on, let's do it. 642 00:39:24,321 --> 00:39:27,403 - [all laughing] - [indistinct chatter] 643 00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:32,948 But when you start not to do... 644 00:39:32,949 --> 00:39:36,389 he called it system, wants then you're in trouble. 645 00:39:37,081 --> 00:39:39,286 Let's make it, where? Where? 646 00:39:39,804 --> 00:39:43,479 [soft music playing] 647 00:39:58,655 --> 00:40:01,595 ? You never, you never thought It would work before ? 648 00:40:01,682 --> 00:40:06,091 ? When you live for your love And you give them your all ? 649 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,939 [Shmuley] Sony was pushing him to continue his career. 650 00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:14,329 ]They were trying to get him to finish this album, Invincible . 651 00:40:15,299 --> 00:40:18,219 Wasn't my business, but, you know, screw the album. 652 00:40:19,259 --> 00:40:22,359 We have to make your life healthy again. 653 00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,000 So there was a war for the soul of Michael Jackson. 654 00:40:27,904 --> 00:40:30,884 [dramatic music playing] 655 00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:34,589 [Chris] Sony Music was one of the biggest labels 656 00:40:34,590 --> 00:40:36,389 in the world, hands down. 657 00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:40,570 And with Michael, well, there's a lot of money... 658 00:40:41,490 --> 00:40:42,540 changing hands. 659 00:40:42,990 --> 00:40:45,369 So, yes, it's cutthroat. 660 00:40:47,150 --> 00:40:50,990 But Sony Music was no more cutthroat than any other label. 661 00:40:53,021 --> 00:40:56,079 [Rudy] Michael's relationship 662 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,310 was a contentious one with his record label. 663 00:41:02,050 --> 00:41:05,549 I was there to help facilitate a record 664 00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:07,540 he was putting out called Invincible , 665 00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:10,650 which was his official last studio record with Sony. 666 00:41:11,230 --> 00:41:13,310 And things were going over budget. 667 00:41:14,010 --> 00:41:16,709 We had rented out the entire floor 668 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:19,370 at the Plaza Hotel in New York. 669 00:41:19,371 --> 00:41:21,109 And for anybody who doesn't know that, 670 00:41:21,110 --> 00:41:23,190 that is extremely expensive, crazy. 671 00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:26,090 And he wasn't even showing up for things. 672 00:41:26,515 --> 00:41:28,823 [indistinct chatter] 673 00:41:28,930 --> 00:41:31,280 [Rudy] A record company is there to make money. 674 00:41:31,630 --> 00:41:33,670 They are an investment firm, in a way, 675 00:41:33,810 --> 00:41:36,510 who has invested in you to produce something. 676 00:41:38,610 --> 00:41:41,389 When we got the phone call that this was, you know, 677 00:41:41,390 --> 00:41:42,389 "How dare he?" 678 00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:44,649 "This was the most expensive record we've ever made." 679 00:41:44,650 --> 00:41:45,989 You know, and I'm like, "Oh, okay." 680 00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:47,930 And like, "How much? 30- $30 million." 681 00:41:48,110 --> 00:41:51,930 I'm like, "Oh", so it was kind of it was a problem. 682 00:41:52,990 --> 00:41:56,290 But everybody was really trying to get him... 683 00:41:57,050 --> 00:42:00,850 in tow so we could make a deadline for album release. 684 00:42:00,922 --> 00:42:02,963 [crowd cheering, applauding] 685 00:42:04,610 --> 00:42:07,390 There's one time where I was asked to pick up a package... 686 00:42:07,869 --> 00:42:11,010 at a house that apparently was being sold and is empty. 687 00:42:11,210 --> 00:42:14,290 And in the mailbox was this package. 688 00:42:14,330 --> 00:42:17,610 And I opened it up and it happened to be full of Demerol, 689 00:42:17,790 --> 00:42:20,910 which is a prescription pain medication. 690 00:42:21,890 --> 00:42:23,030 But a lot of it. 691 00:42:23,570 --> 00:42:26,269 It was an unknown thing that you don't ask. 692 00:42:26,896 --> 00:42:28,420 I said, "What's got-" 693 00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:32,990 And I was like, "Oh, okay, never mind." 694 00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:37,390 But then he would go to the studio 695 00:42:37,610 --> 00:42:40,050 as long as he had his magical pills. 696 00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:44,130 But it was also confusing at the same time. It wasn't... 697 00:42:44,530 --> 00:42:47,350 I'm not there to look at someone and unwrap the package. 698 00:42:47,610 --> 00:42:49,530 I'm there to get records done, right? 699 00:42:50,676 --> 00:42:52,084 [soft music playing] 700 00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:55,289 [Shmuley] There were so many people who were reliant on him... 701 00:42:55,290 --> 00:42:58,010 to be the golden goose that lays eggs again. 702 00:43:00,990 --> 00:43:04,610 But he knew that path was corrosive. 703 00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:07,950 It frightened me. 704 00:43:07,951 --> 00:43:10,409 There was too much conflict going on with him, 705 00:43:10,410 --> 00:43:14,269 and I sensed and I saw that I was losing my influence. 706 00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:16,689 And I told him, "I'm not going to watch you drive 707 00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:19,270 your life off a cliff and clap." 708 00:43:19,717 --> 00:43:24,113 [crowd cheering] 709 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,349 [reporter 20] Invincible has sold 710 00:43:35,350 --> 00:43:37,688 2 million copies in six months, 711 00:43:37,689 --> 00:43:39,269 and that ain't Invincible . 712 00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:41,688 [reporter 21] The flop of Invincible , 713 00:43:41,689 --> 00:43:43,028 along with a general downturn 714 00:43:43,029 --> 00:43:45,389 in sales, means that Sony's share price 715 00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:46,440 has suffered of late. 716 00:43:49,970 --> 00:43:52,140 [Dieter] Michael told me, "You know what? 717 00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:54,230 I can't do this anymore." 718 00:43:54,914 --> 00:43:58,798 [indistinct chatter] 719 00:43:58,890 --> 00:44:01,490 [Dieter] Michael was done with the music 720 00:44:01,850 --> 00:44:03,930 and with touring and all of this. 721 00:44:05,988 --> 00:44:11,995 [dramatic music playing] 722 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,480 [Dieter] But Sony was not happy at all with this. 723 00:44:20,139 --> 00:44:24,340 So he knew he has to fight to come out of this situation. 724 00:44:29,550 --> 00:44:32,630 [Chris] From my vantage point... 725 00:44:33,610 --> 00:44:37,270 he got a tremendous amount of support from Sony Music. 726 00:44:39,110 --> 00:44:41,400 But you have to understand, they're artists. 727 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:44,470 They're all narcissists. They can't help themselves. 728 00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:48,280 Okay? If their record's not selling, it's someone's fault. 729 00:44:48,876 --> 00:44:51,586 If their tour's not doing well, it's someone's fault. 730 00:44:51,970 --> 00:44:55,289 Someone is always to blame. 731 00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:05,300 [Rudy] Michael Jackson is the architect of his own destiny. 732 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,000 Like every single human being, whether you're special or not... 733 00:45:10,001 --> 00:45:12,636 you are the creator of the reality you live in. 734 00:45:12,637 --> 00:45:15,397 [dramatic music playing] 735 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,740 [Rudy] I remember we were required to go to New York City, 736 00:45:20,140 --> 00:45:23,340 and then he's whisked off to Al Sharpton's church. 737 00:45:24,740 --> 00:45:27,210 I personally think he was jacked up on something. 738 00:45:31,310 --> 00:45:32,390 Throughout the years... 739 00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:37,630 Black artists have been taken advantage of completely. 740 00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:41,590 And Sony, Tommy Mottola, 741 00:45:42,010 --> 00:45:44,830 Tommy Mottola's the President of the Record Division. 742 00:45:45,170 --> 00:45:47,990 He is a mean, he's a racist... 743 00:45:49,310 --> 00:45:53,330 and he's very, very, very devilish. 744 00:45:53,916 --> 00:45:56,071 [crowd cheering, applauding] 745 00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:59,329 You know, this just exploded right there. 746 00:45:59,330 --> 00:46:02,229 [reporter 22] Sony's statement reads, "We were deeply offended 747 00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:04,630 by the outrageous comments Mr. Jackson made." 748 00:46:04,930 --> 00:46:07,969 "Mr. Jackson has committed a serious abuse of power 749 00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:09,555 - that comes with celebrity." - [crowd cheering] 750 00:46:09,556 --> 00:46:11,425 [man 4] Wow, look at this. 751 00:46:12,773 --> 00:46:15,078 [Michael] 752 00:46:22,122 --> 00:46:27,078 [crowd chanting] Sony sucks! Sony sucks! Sony sucks! 753 00:46:34,949 --> 00:46:37,419 [Dieter] He told me, "Dieter you need to help me." 754 00:46:38,169 --> 00:46:39,219 It's over. 755 00:46:40,449 --> 00:46:45,049 He asked me to terminate all his contracts with his lawyers... 756 00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:47,409 with his team, with everybody. 757 00:46:48,969 --> 00:46:52,429 And he did want that I take over everything. 758 00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:56,053 [dramatic music playing] 759 00:46:57,660 --> 00:47:00,730 [Michael] Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Michael Jackson... 760 00:47:01,220 --> 00:47:03,150 and rather than writing you a letter, 761 00:47:03,151 --> 00:47:05,259 I've found this format to be most efficient 762 00:47:05,260 --> 00:47:06,940 for what I wish to communicate. 763 00:47:08,877 --> 00:47:10,583 Dieter Weisner from Germany 764 00:47:10,721 --> 00:47:13,027 and myself have entered into an agreement, 765 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,050 an exclusive long-term partnership. 766 00:47:15,380 --> 00:47:17,620 He gave me the power of attorney. 767 00:47:17,621 --> 00:47:20,199 I will personally sign agreements 768 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,180 and legally authorize my partners to sign on my behalf. 769 00:47:25,371 --> 00:47:28,021 [Dieter] But, and he told me, "Dieter, the old team, 770 00:47:28,138 --> 00:47:30,991 they will be after you. 771 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,820 They called once and told me, 772 00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:36,600 "You take our golden cow... 773 00:47:37,539 --> 00:47:39,680 and you have to stop this." 774 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,170 And... 775 00:47:42,980 --> 00:47:45,039 But I was on Michael's side, of course, 776 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,300 and I did what he want. 777 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,400 I remember these words from Michael to me... 778 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,860 "I put my life and my future in your hand." 779 00:48:06,481 --> 00:48:11,453 - [Michael] Wait, wait, wait. - [Prince babbling] 780 00:48:11,454 --> 00:48:15,267 [sobbing] I want the... 781 00:48:15,268 --> 00:48:18,448 [Michael] When it comes to distributing cookies, 782 00:48:18,449 --> 00:48:20,619 we get to see children's real personality. 783 00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:22,620 Here, come here. 784 00:48:24,050 --> 00:48:27,510 Prince, over here, before I grind you into hamburger. 785 00:48:29,970 --> 00:48:32,510 No, you want the cookie? Then you behave. 786 00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:39,570 Here, okay, here, here's the cookie. 787 00:48:40,750 --> 00:48:42,190 Paris, you want some of this? 788 00:48:43,809 --> 00:48:46,519 [Shmuley] By that time, I wasn't involved in his life. 789 00:48:46,994 --> 00:48:49,164 [Michael] Paris, you didn't say thank you. 790 00:48:49,165 --> 00:48:50,799 - Turn around. - [soft music playing] 791 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,379 [Michael] Paris, you want that? 792 00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:54,130 [Shmuley] I received a phone call 793 00:48:55,740 --> 00:48:56,790 from... 794 00:48:58,250 --> 00:48:59,300 a producer... 795 00:49:01,069 --> 00:49:02,629 that worked with Martin Bashir. 796 00:49:02,929 --> 00:49:05,519 Martin Bashir wants to interview Michael Jackson. 797 00:49:05,522 --> 00:49:06,733 [crying] 798 00:49:06,734 --> 00:49:08,709 [Michael] Okay, you're getting the big one. 799 00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:11,328 [Shmuley] I got off the phone, and I went to Michael and said, 800 00:49:11,329 --> 00:49:12,769 "First of all, your life, 801 00:49:12,849 --> 00:49:14,839 it's not ready to be open to the public." 802 00:49:16,070 --> 00:49:19,250 "Stay a billion miles away from this guy." 803 00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:23,549 But Michael was an insecure person 804 00:49:23,550 --> 00:49:26,200 who is going to look for the validation of the public. 805 00:49:28,850 --> 00:49:31,950 [Dieter] He wanted to talk about his whole life. 806 00:49:33,110 --> 00:49:37,089 His career, that people really understand him. 807 00:49:39,469 --> 00:49:42,889 So, Martin Bashir followed Michael for eight months. 808 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,500 How do you write a song? 809 00:49:51,340 --> 00:49:52,480 How do you write a song? 810 00:49:52,540 --> 00:49:56,179 When I wrote "Billie Jean," I was riding in my car 811 00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:57,700 down Ventura Boulevard. 812 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,979 All I said to myself beforehand, "I want to write a song 813 00:50:00,980 --> 00:50:03,020 with a great bass hook," you know? 814 00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:06,174 [hums "Billie Jean"] 815 00:50:06,175 --> 00:50:07,225 - You know, the whole... 816 00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:09,110 - [Martin] Where did that come from? 817 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,330 From above. 818 00:50:11,331 --> 00:50:13,639 - [Martin] The dance as well? - [Michael] Yeah, same thing. 819 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,350 [Martin] How do you do it? Can you show me how you do it? 820 00:50:16,351 --> 00:50:17,599 Oh, boy. 821 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,039 [Martin] Come on, just get up and show me. 822 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,970 - Oh, come on. - Oh, come on, just show me. 823 00:50:21,140 --> 00:50:23,190 [Martin] Just show me. Show me what you do. 824 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,490 Teach me. 825 00:50:25,820 --> 00:50:26,870 Okay, uh... 826 00:50:26,900 --> 00:50:29,060 Oh, boy. You're putting me on the spot now. 827 00:50:29,061 --> 00:50:30,309 - [Martin] Come on. - See, now people 828 00:50:30,310 --> 00:50:31,939 will be discovering something about me. 829 00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:33,500 I'm really shy. I'm embarrassed. 830 00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:36,029 [Martin] Okay, you're shy. Just get up and show me. 831 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,810 Okay. 832 00:50:38,403 --> 00:50:41,471 [dramatic music playing] 833 00:50:41,570 --> 00:50:44,100 [Dieter] Michael opened the door for everything. 834 00:50:47,753 --> 00:50:52,313 [indistinct chatter] 835 00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:55,680 [Dieter] Michael had just had another child. 836 00:51:00,510 --> 00:51:02,610 We were in the room together ... 837 00:51:03,630 --> 00:51:08,150 and Michael heard the screaming from the fans. 838 00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:10,010 It was a beautiful feeling. 839 00:51:10,043 --> 00:51:14,454 [crowd cheering] 840 00:51:15,110 --> 00:51:17,690 And Michael was so excited, and I was behind him. 841 00:51:18,210 --> 00:51:19,260 He took Blanket... 842 00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:23,090 but he had him really fast under his arm. 843 00:51:26,338 --> 00:51:29,916 [crowd cheering] 844 00:51:36,413 --> 00:51:39,949 [dramatic music playing] 845 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,080 In the next morning, I came out of my room... 846 00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:47,960 and I saw all over the newspaper. 847 00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:51,820 It was not a nice picture. 848 00:51:53,180 --> 00:51:55,900 But, of course, Martin Bashir, he was there. 849 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,518 - I love you. - Here he is. 850 00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:02,100 I love you. Here's the bottle. [laughs] 851 00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,290 Wait, wait. [screams] Here's the bottle. 852 00:52:04,291 --> 00:52:05,869 It's okay. Just get this off him. 853 00:52:05,870 --> 00:52:09,031 Ow! Oh please don't cry Blanket. Oh okay, put it in. 854 00:52:09,141 --> 00:52:12,307 Okay, okay, here we go. A boo, a boo, a boo ho-ho. 855 00:52:12,308 --> 00:52:13,878 - [Blanket crying] - Yes, a boo. 856 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,220 Blanket. Blanket. Blanket. Blanket. Blanket. 857 00:52:17,860 --> 00:52:20,840 I love you, Blanket. Yes. Yes. Yes. 858 00:52:20,841 --> 00:52:23,379 [Martin] Have you been hearing about 859 00:52:23,380 --> 00:52:24,880 what people have been saying? 860 00:52:24,881 --> 00:52:26,579 [Michael] That's totally ignorant. 861 00:52:26,580 --> 00:52:29,020 I would never do that to my children or any child. 862 00:52:29,380 --> 00:52:31,099 Try to kill them? Come on. Stupid. 863 00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:33,359 And why would I put a scarf over the baby's face 864 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,590 if I was trying to throw him off the balcony? 865 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,379 We were waving to thousands of fans down below, 866 00:52:38,380 --> 00:52:40,659 and they were chanting they wanted to see my child. 867 00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:42,560 So I was kind enough to let them see 868 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,310 I was doing something out of innocence. 869 00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:49,933 [soft music playing] 870 00:52:49,934 --> 00:52:53,529 [reporter 23] When Living with Michael Jackson 871 00:52:53,530 --> 00:52:56,650 airs this evening, these streets are going to be deserted. 872 00:52:57,010 --> 00:52:58,789 Fans and critics alike are saying 873 00:52:58,790 --> 00:53:01,289 they're going to be staying in to watch the program, 874 00:53:01,290 --> 00:53:04,550 with his reputation in America very much at stake. 875 00:53:04,930 --> 00:53:07,670 For Michael Jackson, it must be a nervous wait. 876 00:53:07,671 --> 00:53:11,649 [Dieter] I didn't want that we watch the documentary 877 00:53:11,650 --> 00:53:14,110 until I know what happened. 878 00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:18,449 But Michael, of course, he want to see it. 879 00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:22,449 We watched it on TV together. 880 00:53:22,873 --> 00:53:26,053 [soft music playing] 881 00:53:26,860 --> 00:53:30,050 [Martin] Eight months ago, I put a proposal to Michael Jackson. 882 00:53:30,860 --> 00:53:33,880 Show me the real man, but show me everything. 883 00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:35,500 Make nothing off-limits. 884 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:38,240 He thought about it, and then he said, 885 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,300 "Yes, come to Neverland." 886 00:53:42,449 --> 00:53:45,769 We began a journey together, across continents, 887 00:53:45,970 --> 00:53:47,020 through his past, 888 00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:51,490 and rapidly into the disturbing reality of his life today. 889 00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:53,760 In the documentary... 890 00:53:55,149 --> 00:53:57,670 was this young boy, Gavin Arvizo. 891 00:54:00,689 --> 00:54:02,949 And he was taking care of him. 892 00:54:03,689 --> 00:54:05,569 [Martin] When people hear that 893 00:54:06,209 --> 00:54:08,229 children from other families 894 00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:10,400 have come and they've stayed in your house... 895 00:54:10,649 --> 00:54:12,279 they've stayed in your bedroom... 896 00:54:12,969 --> 00:54:14,269 [Michael] Well, very few. 897 00:54:14,510 --> 00:54:16,260 [Martin] But, you know, some have... 898 00:54:16,609 --> 00:54:17,659 and they say... 899 00:54:18,489 --> 00:54:20,750 is that really appropriate for a man, 900 00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:24,309 a grown man, to be doing that? How do you respond to that? 901 00:54:24,310 --> 00:54:27,048 I feel sorry for them, because that's judging someone 902 00:54:27,049 --> 00:54:30,569 who wants to really help people. Why can't you share your bed? 903 00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:34,760 The most loving thing to do is to share your bed with someone. 904 00:54:36,289 --> 00:54:40,149 When I saw this, I got a very bad feeling. 905 00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:43,209 [Martin] When you're talking about children, 906 00:54:43,210 --> 00:54:45,370 if I said, "Well, 907 00:54:45,371 --> 00:54:48,269 I've invited some of my daughter's friends round, 908 00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:49,949 or my son's friends round, and they're going to sleep 909 00:54:49,950 --> 00:54:51,829 - in the bed with me tonight..." - [Michael] That's fine. 910 00:54:51,830 --> 00:54:53,308 What do you think their parents would say? 911 00:54:53,309 --> 00:54:55,730 If they're wacky, they would say, "You can't." 912 00:54:55,929 --> 00:54:58,368 I suppose the problem for many people 913 00:54:58,369 --> 00:55:02,329 is what happened in 1993, or what didn't happen. 914 00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:03,760 What didn't happen. 915 00:55:04,203 --> 00:55:07,774 [dramatic music playing] 916 00:55:07,775 --> 00:55:11,239 One bombshell after another about his bizarre behavior 917 00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:13,240 in a new British documentary. 918 00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:17,000 Jackson admits he still has sleepovers with young boys. 919 00:55:18,659 --> 00:55:19,780 I felt... 920 00:55:24,059 --> 00:55:25,840 shock. Absolute shock. 921 00:55:26,219 --> 00:55:28,219 Have you lost all touch with reality? 922 00:55:29,380 --> 00:55:31,598 That you don't even know how people 923 00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:35,239 are going to react to that? 924 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,579 He said he slept in a bed with children that are not his own. 925 00:55:40,580 --> 00:55:42,539 I mean, this isn't made up, this isn't fabricated. 926 00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:43,590 What kind of loony 927 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,340 would A, do it, and B, go on national TV and admit it? 928 00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:52,299 Michael crossed lines that clearly are uncrossable. 929 00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:54,539 Sharing a bed with a child that's not yours, 930 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,410 even if it's not sexual, it's still... 931 00:55:57,339 --> 00:55:58,389 insanity. 932 00:55:58,579 --> 00:56:01,699 We got the reaction from all over, of course. 933 00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:03,678 - It was terrible. - [dramatic music playing] 934 00:56:03,679 --> 00:56:06,139 You can't sleep with strangers' kids. 935 00:56:06,140 --> 00:56:07,879 And as much as I love Michael Jackson, 936 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,230 I'm having a hard time defending him right now. 937 00:56:10,231 --> 00:56:12,159 [reporter 24] I believe the Child Welfare Services 938 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,259 should interview every child that has been at Neverland 939 00:56:15,260 --> 00:56:18,359 with Mr. Jackson in his bedroom or anywhere else in the home 940 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,979 without the presence of their parents. 941 00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:21,400 Find out what's going on. 942 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:26,760 He couldn't talk. And he was sitting on his bed, crying. 943 00:56:26,761 --> 00:56:29,118 What's ahead for Michael Jackson? 944 00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:30,068 What do you think's ahead after this? 945 00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:31,920 Oh, a real bumpy road. 946 00:56:32,140 --> 00:56:34,380 I don't think he'll recover from this one. 947 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,259 That documentary led directly 948 00:56:38,260 --> 00:56:40,430 or indirectly to Michael Jackson's death. 949 00:56:40,431 --> 00:56:42,218 There's absolutely no question about it. 950 00:56:42,219 --> 00:56:43,909 That was the beginning of the end. 951 00:56:49,862 --> 00:56:54,376 [dramatic music playing] 952 00:56:56,889 --> 00:56:59,659 [Ron] Michael Jackson wasn't the ordinary pedophile. 953 00:57:00,989 --> 00:57:03,368 He had the means to be able to do things 954 00:57:03,369 --> 00:57:05,789 that no one else I had ever prosecuted could do. 955 00:57:07,809 --> 00:57:10,268 An estate that was 2,800 acres 956 00:57:10,269 --> 00:57:12,409 and a huge house with multiple locks. 957 00:57:13,329 --> 00:57:15,809 A staff that just ignored what was going on. 958 00:57:15,869 --> 00:57:17,679 That was unique to Michael Jackson. 959 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,628 [officer] Gavin, can you tell us 960 00:57:20,629 --> 00:57:23,639 what your conversations were, what you guys talked about? 961 00:57:23,681 --> 00:57:26,346 [Gavin] 962 00:57:26,431 --> 00:57:29,266 - [officer] - [Gavin] 963 00:57:33,495 --> 00:57:34,545 [officer] 964 00:57:37,050 --> 00:57:40,150 [Ron] We had lost the opportunity 10 years earlier. 965 00:57:40,151 --> 00:57:44,373 And we were determined that, that would not happen again. 966 00:57:44,374 --> 00:57:47,093 [dramatic music playing] 967 00:57:47,143 --> 00:57:51,693 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 76005

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