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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:58,958 --> 00:01:01,984 - Dad. - Hi, Dad. 2 00:01:10,703 --> 00:01:13,228 I brought chicken from Small's. 3 00:01:15,608 --> 00:01:17,235 I'm going to skip dinner. 4 00:01:23,082 --> 00:01:27,041 - How's Gabe? - We couldn't get into the doctor. 5 00:01:27,119 --> 00:01:29,986 I bought cough syrup at the pharmacy. 6 00:02:01,754 --> 00:02:05,622 - You should come to dinner, Dad. - You go on in, son. 7 00:03:03,215 --> 00:03:05,308 What are you doing? 8 00:03:14,660 --> 00:03:16,753 Reilly. 9 00:03:17,930 --> 00:03:20,865 This is Deputy Reilly. Can I help you? 10 00:03:24,737 --> 00:03:25,965 I did it. 11 00:03:29,608 --> 00:03:32,372 They're dead, all dead. 12 00:04:56,862 --> 00:05:00,958 In Utah, the prosecution in the case of former county sheriff William Garry, 13 00:05:01,033 --> 00:05:03,160 convicted of murdering his wife and children, 14 00:05:03,235 --> 00:05:05,499 is expected to push hard for the death penalty. 15 00:05:05,571 --> 00:05:09,166 County prosecutor Calvin Smith is bringing in a former FBl agent 16 00:05:09,241 --> 00:05:11,505 to give the jury a psychological profile 17 00:05:11,577 --> 00:05:14,876 of the man he says does not deserve to live out his life in prison. 18 00:05:14,947 --> 00:05:20,283 In other news, disaster strikes where an intercontinental gas line has erupted... 19 00:05:25,624 --> 00:05:28,752 Charlie Horvath. Say hello to Frank Black. 20 00:05:28,828 --> 00:05:31,854 He's going to close the book on Mr William Garry. 21 00:05:31,931 --> 00:05:35,594 Charlie's assistant county prosecutor. He did a lot of work on that trial. 22 00:05:35,668 --> 00:05:40,162 We appreciate you being here, Mr Black. This town needs to get past this. 23 00:05:40,239 --> 00:05:43,606 Didi Higgens, assistant pathologist to the ME. 24 00:05:43,676 --> 00:05:48,477 He couldn't be here today but Didi's well acquainted with this case. 25 00:05:48,547 --> 00:05:50,174 - How do you do? - Hi. 26 00:05:50,249 --> 00:05:53,650 Frank, we're all aware of the importance of what you do. 27 00:05:54,620 --> 00:05:59,580 If the jury even considers that it wasn't a cold, calculated, premeditated murder, 28 00:05:59,658 --> 00:06:01,819 they won't vote capital punishment. 29 00:06:01,894 --> 00:06:07,298 We need to make sure some court of appeals doesn't set Garry free to do this again, 30 00:06:07,366 --> 00:06:09,834 maybe to some other family. 31 00:06:09,902 --> 00:06:12,769 Didi, you want to run this down for Frank? 32 00:06:14,506 --> 00:06:18,465 William Garry's fingerprints were found on this. It's a skew chisel. 33 00:06:18,544 --> 00:06:21,980 One minute the boy smiles at his father, the next he's got that in his heart. 34 00:06:22,114 --> 00:06:26,813 Mrs Garry heard the commotion, came downstairs and surprised Garry. 35 00:06:26,886 --> 00:06:31,550 She put up a prolonged struggle. Defensive wounds on the arms and hands. 36 00:06:31,624 --> 00:06:34,320 Death came when her central nervous system shut down 37 00:06:34,393 --> 00:06:39,490 due to oxygen deprivation caused by four puncture wounds to the heart. 38 00:06:39,565 --> 00:06:43,501 The little girl, Mary, was in her room in the basement. 39 00:06:43,569 --> 00:06:46,231 Eight puncture wounds to the chest area. 40 00:06:46,305 --> 00:06:51,834 Garry then went up to Gabriel's room, the youngest child. Killed him, too. 41 00:06:51,911 --> 00:06:55,779 Garry wrapped Gabriel in a sheet and carried him down to the basement, 42 00:06:55,848 --> 00:07:00,808 where he wrapped the others in sheets and laid them side by side. 43 00:07:00,886 --> 00:07:05,016 We think he sat on the basement steps for 15 or 20 minutes before calling it in. 44 00:07:05,090 --> 00:07:09,720 Sheriff Garry must have had a lot of friends in Weber County. 45 00:07:09,795 --> 00:07:14,528 - Nobody saw this coming? - Everybody knew they were having trouble, 46 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,366 but, my God, no one knew the extent of the problem. 47 00:07:20,339 --> 00:07:23,900 - I'll need access to the crime scene. - Whatever you need. 48 00:07:23,976 --> 00:07:27,776 Copies of the court transcripts. CSl photos and forensic reports. 49 00:07:27,846 --> 00:07:32,442 - Got those right here. - I'll also need to speak with Garry. 50 00:07:32,518 --> 00:07:35,419 His attorney will never consent to you interviewing him, 51 00:07:35,487 --> 00:07:38,684 but there's a tape of his confession on the table. 52 00:07:38,757 --> 00:07:42,090 - Thanks. - Be ready to go by Wednesday. 53 00:07:44,630 --> 00:07:50,830 Frank, the last thing those children saw before they saw the face of God 54 00:07:50,903 --> 00:07:54,532 was their father's face, the face of a murderer. 55 00:07:54,606 --> 00:07:57,769 I want William Garry to pay for that. 56 00:09:03,442 --> 00:09:05,467 - You're Frank Black? - Yeah. 57 00:09:05,544 --> 00:09:08,775 Deputy Reilly. I'm supposed to let you in the house. 58 00:09:27,266 --> 00:09:29,791 I'd like to see the kitchen. 59 00:09:36,375 --> 00:09:40,573 There was a number written on the window in blood: 12815. What was made of that? 60 00:09:44,783 --> 00:09:48,082 Nothing. No one ever figured out what it meant. 61 00:09:48,153 --> 00:09:50,587 Garry wrote it, after the murders? 62 00:09:50,656 --> 00:09:53,784 Bill remembers writing it, but he doesn't remember why. 63 00:09:53,859 --> 00:09:58,728 Cal Smith checked its relevance to numerology, astrology, that sort of thing. 64 00:10:06,338 --> 00:10:10,104 - How much blood was here on the rug? - Just what was on the window. 65 00:10:10,175 --> 00:10:14,976 The murders took place downstairs and in the little boy's room. 66 00:10:21,386 --> 00:10:26,824 I came in from working in the garage. I was tired. I'd put in a long day. 67 00:10:29,294 --> 00:10:33,993 William Jr was coming down the stairs. He didn't see me at first. 68 00:10:34,967 --> 00:10:37,868 I think I thought I was just smacking him 69 00:10:37,936 --> 00:10:43,602 until I realized I had the chisel in my hand, there was blood all over me, 70 00:10:43,709 --> 00:10:46,234 and my son was dead. 71 00:10:46,311 --> 00:10:51,977 My wife came down the stairs. She must have heard the noise. 72 00:10:52,050 --> 00:10:54,416 There was no stopping now. 73 00:10:54,486 --> 00:10:58,013 After I finished with my wife, I went into my daughter's room. 74 00:10:58,090 --> 00:11:01,423 Mary was awake. That made it more difficult. 75 00:11:02,261 --> 00:11:04,126 She cowered on her bed, crying. 76 00:11:06,532 --> 00:11:11,595 She didn't fight. She didn't fight back or try to run away. 77 00:11:13,906 --> 00:11:17,433 It was the first time I'd ever laid a hand on her. 78 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:20,376 I had to go upstairs to Gabe's room. 79 00:11:22,548 --> 00:11:28,111 I'm grateful now he didn't wake up to see me looking down on him. 80 00:11:28,187 --> 00:11:30,155 He was only five years old. 81 00:11:31,823 --> 00:11:37,284 Once you start something like this, you somehow have to finish. 82 00:11:40,866 --> 00:11:45,633 - How long have you known Garry? - 12 years. He brought me to the department. 83 00:11:46,405 --> 00:11:48,396 You liked him? 84 00:11:48,473 --> 00:11:51,909 I respected Garry more than any man I've ever known. 85 00:11:53,145 --> 00:11:55,670 What about Mrs Garry? You friends with her? 86 00:11:57,149 --> 00:11:59,140 I was close with the whole family. 87 00:12:03,088 --> 00:12:05,215 Why do you think he did these things? 88 00:12:09,962 --> 00:12:13,591 To be honest, Mr Black, I don't think about that. 89 00:12:14,566 --> 00:12:16,727 No use stirring up feelings. 90 00:12:37,556 --> 00:12:39,820 - Hello. - Hi, Daddy. 91 00:12:39,891 --> 00:12:43,918 - How's my girl? - Tired, but I wanted to say good night. 92 00:12:44,997 --> 00:12:47,557 - Good night. - Taking care of Mommy? 93 00:12:47,633 --> 00:12:50,761 - Yeah. - OK. Sweet dreams. 94 00:12:52,471 --> 00:12:56,339 Hi. How did it go today? 95 00:12:56,408 --> 00:12:59,775 - Well... - What is it? 96 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,910 I just finished reading Garry's confession. 97 00:13:03,982 --> 00:13:06,450 - It's very strange. - What do you mean? 98 00:13:06,518 --> 00:13:09,919 In most murder confessions, there's lots of little lies, 99 00:13:09,988 --> 00:13:13,082 inconsistencies, things not remembered, half-truths, 100 00:13:13,158 --> 00:13:17,151 an attempt to minimize the brutality of the murders. 101 00:13:17,229 --> 00:13:19,857 None of that's here. He's accounted for everything. 102 00:13:19,931 --> 00:13:22,456 He was a police officer. He knows about crime scenes. 103 00:13:22,534 --> 00:13:27,267 Yes, but for a murderer to have this kind of clarity of truth, it's very strange. 104 00:13:27,873 --> 00:13:32,139 - So, all that truth adds up to a lie? - I don't know. 105 00:13:32,244 --> 00:13:36,078 - I love you. - Me, too. 106 00:13:36,148 --> 00:13:38,173 - Bye. - Bye-bye. 107 00:14:24,996 --> 00:14:27,089 Frank Black? 108 00:14:30,035 --> 00:14:32,526 - Michael Slattery. - Thanks for meeting me. 109 00:14:39,678 --> 00:14:43,273 - Just coffee, please. Black. - You got it. 110 00:14:44,416 --> 00:14:49,444 I want this on the record. I may have a case I can't win but I'm not an idiot. 111 00:14:49,521 --> 00:14:53,013 - I'm not going to turn my client over. - I'm not here to condemn. 112 00:14:53,091 --> 00:14:56,549 I'm here to deliver a behavioral profile for ajury. 113 00:14:56,628 --> 00:14:57,925 Thank you. 114 00:15:01,133 --> 00:15:05,160 - Tell me about him. - Actually, there's nothing to tell. 115 00:15:05,237 --> 00:15:08,400 The man said two words in four months: "I'm guilty. " 116 00:15:08,473 --> 00:15:13,410 I read the court transcripts. Why didn't you plead temporary insanity? 117 00:15:13,478 --> 00:15:17,574 He wouldn't let me. Man wants to die, needs to die. 118 00:15:17,649 --> 00:15:22,746 According to Garry's religious beliefs, for a murderer, shedder of blood, 119 00:15:22,821 --> 00:15:28,191 to be forgiven by God at the time of his death, his blood must also be shed. 120 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:31,752 Death by firing squad allows for this dispensation. 121 00:15:31,830 --> 00:15:34,162 Ever wonder about his background? 122 00:15:34,232 --> 00:15:37,895 No history of violence, departmental, domestic? 123 00:15:37,969 --> 00:15:39,994 The guy was an Eagle Scout. 124 00:15:40,071 --> 00:15:43,234 The man confessed and the facts support the confession. 125 00:15:43,308 --> 00:15:47,677 There's no other suspects. All the forensic evidence points to him. 126 00:15:47,746 --> 00:15:51,443 All I can fight for is to keep him alive. I'll probably lose that. 127 00:15:54,019 --> 00:15:57,887 You for it or against it? Personally, I mean. 128 00:15:57,956 --> 00:16:00,925 - What's that? - The death penalty. 129 00:16:02,894 --> 00:16:06,125 If you like the idea of killing people, you're for it. 130 00:16:06,198 --> 00:16:09,759 If you hate the idea of killing people, you're against it. 131 00:16:09,835 --> 00:16:14,738 Poor William Garry. The man just wants to die and he's saddled with a lawyer 132 00:16:14,806 --> 00:16:18,742 who's the only man in town who wants to save him. 133 00:16:18,810 --> 00:16:21,370 - Well? - Come on, Frank. 134 00:16:21,446 --> 00:16:26,975 You were called by the prosecution. You don't really think I'd give you access. 135 00:16:27,052 --> 00:16:32,547 As I said, my recommendations will not be prejudiced. I'm here to find the truth. 136 00:16:38,029 --> 00:16:42,125 Thanks for coming, Frank. There's some people that'd like to meet you. 137 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,536 Mr and Mrs Anderson, this is Frank Black. Frank, Mrs Garry's parents. 138 00:16:49,274 --> 00:16:54,337 - I'm very sorry for your loss. - Mr Smith says you're going to help us. 139 00:16:54,412 --> 00:16:57,540 You don't know how important it is to us... 140 00:16:58,717 --> 00:17:00,685 that... 141 00:17:05,123 --> 00:17:08,286 I have nightmares of... 142 00:17:10,462 --> 00:17:12,362 how my daughter... 143 00:17:13,365 --> 00:17:15,458 my grandchildren... 144 00:17:16,968 --> 00:17:18,595 I see it. 145 00:17:22,974 --> 00:17:25,033 All my life, I've... 146 00:17:25,977 --> 00:17:30,573 I've been a father, a husband, a farmer. 147 00:17:31,917 --> 00:17:34,681 That's been the trinity of my life. 148 00:17:36,288 --> 00:17:38,381 I no longer have that. 149 00:17:40,258 --> 00:17:41,919 William Garry's to blame. 150 00:17:43,895 --> 00:17:46,625 If you're a good man, Mr Black, 151 00:17:47,666 --> 00:17:51,261 you'll make sure that he pays the price he ought to pay. 152 00:17:53,171 --> 00:17:56,572 Thank you. Thank you both for coming in. 153 00:18:06,351 --> 00:18:07,978 Was that for my benefit? 154 00:18:08,053 --> 00:18:12,615 Shouldn't you have an idea of the kind of grief this man has wrought? 155 00:18:13,825 --> 00:18:19,559 Frank, in Florida, there are 376 inmates on death row waiting for execution. 156 00:18:19,631 --> 00:18:22,122 In California, there are 471. 157 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,135 Some of these cases go back 14, 15 years. 158 00:18:26,504 --> 00:18:29,564 The blood debt in this state, Mr Black, is nine. 159 00:18:31,376 --> 00:18:33,537 I'm a little concerned about you. 160 00:18:33,645 --> 00:18:38,582 I'm meeting Didi Higgens at the crime scene. I've got questions. 161 00:18:38,650 --> 00:18:41,084 The trial's over, Frank. 162 00:18:41,152 --> 00:18:44,679 What I need from you is a profile to put the sombitch in front of a firing squad. 163 00:18:44,756 --> 00:18:47,850 Put me before the jury now and I may not be able to do that. 164 00:18:49,327 --> 00:18:52,819 William Garry murdered his wife and children. 165 00:18:52,897 --> 00:18:54,956 He confessed to it. 166 00:18:55,033 --> 00:18:57,228 Meet with Didi, exhaust your questions, 167 00:18:57,302 --> 00:19:00,931 but give me the profile I need by Wednesday morning. 168 00:19:04,376 --> 00:19:07,345 - You met with Mr Garry's lawyer. - Yes. 169 00:19:07,412 --> 00:19:09,073 Mind if I ask why? 170 00:19:09,147 --> 00:19:11,843 He gave me permission to interview Mr Garry. 171 00:19:14,853 --> 00:19:19,085 I bought the elephant for him the day he was born. 172 00:19:22,227 --> 00:19:25,663 There was no pain, no sorrow. 173 00:19:27,632 --> 00:19:30,692 Just a kind of dullness after the anger, 174 00:19:32,704 --> 00:19:35,172 and the need to finish it. 175 00:19:36,341 --> 00:19:40,402 You didn't feel any other emotions during the killings? 176 00:19:40,478 --> 00:19:42,969 Just rage. 177 00:19:44,382 --> 00:19:46,247 How do you feel about it now? 178 00:19:47,485 --> 00:19:49,783 I'm sorry. 179 00:19:49,854 --> 00:19:51,754 I feel sorry. 180 00:19:52,323 --> 00:19:57,022 Why didn't you let your lawyer plead temporary insanity? 181 00:19:57,095 --> 00:20:01,930 I wasn't insane. I was angry, I was in a rage. 182 00:20:02,867 --> 00:20:05,199 I let things build up. Shame on me. 183 00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:10,401 - Most murderers fight the charges. - Mr Black, I take responsibility. 184 00:20:11,776 --> 00:20:14,176 A man makes a mistake, he should pay. 185 00:20:14,245 --> 00:20:17,806 I was a peace officer for 17 years. 186 00:20:17,882 --> 00:20:20,407 If I arrested somebody who did this, 187 00:20:20,485 --> 00:20:23,750 I would have fought like hell to have them executed, 188 00:20:23,822 --> 00:20:26,882 because that's what would have been right. 189 00:20:28,326 --> 00:20:30,191 You want to tell me why you did it? 190 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,834 I thought about it for a long time. 191 00:20:39,671 --> 00:20:41,764 I fantasized about it. 192 00:20:43,708 --> 00:20:46,268 Do you have a wife and family? 193 00:20:46,344 --> 00:20:50,075 - Then you know what I'm talking about. - No. 194 00:20:50,148 --> 00:20:51,911 I don't. 195 00:20:56,688 --> 00:20:59,282 There were money problems. 196 00:21:00,125 --> 00:21:01,820 Bills, more bills. 197 00:21:02,894 --> 00:21:08,093 Things were no better with my wife. It got to the point where I hated her. 198 00:21:09,734 --> 00:21:11,065 She hated me. 199 00:21:12,637 --> 00:21:17,665 You know what it's like to scream in silence 365 days a year? 200 00:21:23,448 --> 00:21:27,908 I went in there to wipe out my family because it was the only way. 201 00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:32,188 The only way. 202 00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:37,591 I found this in your garage. 203 00:21:40,131 --> 00:21:43,430 It was your wife's birthday the next day, wasn't it? 204 00:21:44,936 --> 00:21:46,767 That's right. She liked angels. 205 00:21:46,838 --> 00:21:50,399 So you use your hands to make a gift for your wife, 206 00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:54,434 and those same hands slaughter her and the children. 207 00:21:57,849 --> 00:22:01,444 And you wrote this. Why? 208 00:22:06,925 --> 00:22:09,485 What you have in your hands is a lie. 209 00:22:37,422 --> 00:22:41,518 Fashion an angel for your wife's birthday and then kill the family. 210 00:22:41,593 --> 00:22:43,584 Happens all the time. 211 00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:45,720 He says he felt anger and rage. 212 00:22:45,797 --> 00:22:50,666 But the staging of the bodies indicates the killer was calm. 213 00:22:57,609 --> 00:23:00,169 Garry says he killed William Jr on the stairs. 214 00:23:00,245 --> 00:23:06,878 Correct. There were traces of brown and beige carpet fibers on the boy's pajamas. 215 00:23:06,951 --> 00:23:12,412 But Garry also says he killed his youngest, Gabe, in the bedroom, 216 00:23:12,490 --> 00:23:14,890 and carried him here wrapped in sheets. 217 00:23:14,959 --> 00:23:20,522 That's correct. The stains on the sheet matched stains on the mattress upstairs. 218 00:23:20,598 --> 00:23:24,295 But there were traces of brown and beige fiber on the sheet. 219 00:23:24,369 --> 00:23:28,271 Dr Geller's feeling was that Gabriel was dragged down the stairs. 220 00:23:28,339 --> 00:23:29,738 Garry said he carried him. 221 00:23:29,807 --> 00:23:33,436 It's an inconsistency not uncommon in murder confessions. 222 00:23:33,511 --> 00:23:37,413 - You agreed with it? - I didn't agree or disagree. 223 00:23:45,323 --> 00:23:47,223 What are you doing? 224 00:23:49,394 --> 00:23:53,296 - The wounds on Mrs Garry's hands. - Yes? 225 00:23:54,332 --> 00:23:58,792 There are cuts along the fingers and across the palm of the right hand. 226 00:23:58,870 --> 00:24:01,202 - That's correct. - Defensive? 227 00:24:01,272 --> 00:24:04,400 - That's how they were described. - You didn't examine them? 228 00:24:04,475 --> 00:24:06,170 No, I was the assistant. 229 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:14,582 Mrs Garry's body was found here. 230 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:19,317 We know there was incontinence, but no urine was found. 231 00:24:19,390 --> 00:24:25,420 In Dr Geller's opinion, the urine simply didn't seep through to the carpeting. 232 00:24:25,496 --> 00:24:30,729 According to Garry's confession, he wrote this in blood after the killings. 233 00:24:30,802 --> 00:24:35,830 Which means he walked in here covered in blood after killing his family, 234 00:24:35,907 --> 00:24:38,842 leaned over to the window and wrote the numbers, 235 00:24:39,077 --> 00:24:42,205 and left no blood anywhere else. 236 00:24:43,982 --> 00:24:46,974 Not even footprints on a white carpet? 237 00:24:48,019 --> 00:24:50,112 That's what we're saying. 238 00:24:54,158 --> 00:24:58,254 If you analyze this carpet you'll find it was shampooed. 239 00:24:58,329 --> 00:25:01,594 You'll also find urine traces. Mrs Garry's. 240 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,429 She died right here, not downstairs. 241 00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:12,006 Are you saying that someone's tampered with the evidence? 242 00:25:17,915 --> 00:25:22,011 I'm suggesting someone else committed these murders. 243 00:25:59,891 --> 00:26:01,756 Mr Black. 244 00:26:01,826 --> 00:26:04,317 As I told Mr Slattery, 245 00:26:04,562 --> 00:26:07,588 I can't get into the specifics of why the Garrys came to see me. 246 00:26:07,665 --> 00:26:10,532 - The woman is dead. - That's irrelevant. 247 00:26:10,768 --> 00:26:14,329 - An innocent man could die. - Who, Mr Garry? 248 00:26:14,405 --> 00:26:18,967 A man who slaughters his children and stabs his wife deserves to die. 249 00:26:19,877 --> 00:26:21,606 What if he didn't do it? 250 00:26:30,154 --> 00:26:33,248 Ask a question. Make it specific. 251 00:26:34,292 --> 00:26:36,055 If I can answer it, I will. 252 00:26:36,127 --> 00:26:39,654 Was Mrs Garry having an affair with Deputy Reilly? 253 00:26:41,666 --> 00:26:44,601 Mrs Garry was a faithful wife. 254 00:26:45,670 --> 00:26:48,901 She needed to talk about an emotional problem 255 00:26:48,973 --> 00:26:51,635 that was tearing at the fabric of her soul. 256 00:26:53,177 --> 00:26:57,739 On the other hand, don't ask me about Mr Garry. 257 00:27:01,085 --> 00:27:05,249 - Did they talk about having another child? - I can't answer that. 258 00:27:07,859 --> 00:27:10,851 This is a receipt from the M&W Pharmacy. 259 00:27:10,928 --> 00:27:13,328 Mrs Garry was there that night, 260 00:27:13,397 --> 00:27:18,494 for one bottle of cold syrup, and a home pregnancy test. 261 00:27:22,907 --> 00:27:25,569 Is your name William Garry? 262 00:27:25,643 --> 00:27:27,702 Yes. 263 00:27:28,813 --> 00:27:31,338 Were you a Weber County sheriff? 264 00:27:31,415 --> 00:27:33,474 Yes. 265 00:27:34,552 --> 00:27:39,785 Were you at your home on the evening of October 5th, around 9.45? 266 00:27:39,857 --> 00:27:41,586 Yes. 267 00:27:41,659 --> 00:27:45,925 Were your wife and three children also present in the house at that time? 268 00:27:45,997 --> 00:27:48,056 Yes. 269 00:27:49,734 --> 00:27:52,703 Do you know who killed your family? 270 00:27:52,770 --> 00:27:54,829 Yes. 271 00:27:56,574 --> 00:27:58,269 And was that person you? 272 00:27:59,544 --> 00:28:00,977 Yes. 273 00:28:04,715 --> 00:28:09,084 What's going on? Don't you think I should have known about this? 274 00:28:09,153 --> 00:28:13,522 - I contacted your office. - Half an hour ago. Not good enough. 275 00:28:13,624 --> 00:28:17,492 - Were you feeling rage at this time? - Yes. 276 00:28:17,562 --> 00:28:20,759 - Whatever you find is inadmissible. - That's not important. 277 00:28:20,831 --> 00:28:25,165 I wanted to see the truth. I wanted you to see it. 278 00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:29,837 - And were you feeling anger? - Yes. 279 00:28:32,143 --> 00:28:37,103 The man says he killed his family and that's exactly what he did. 280 00:28:37,181 --> 00:28:39,741 - May I have a look? - It's all yours. 281 00:28:43,688 --> 00:28:45,656 Well, you wanted your proof. 282 00:28:45,723 --> 00:28:48,783 Garry's suffering from delusions of guilt. 283 00:28:48,859 --> 00:28:53,228 Most likely a fixed false belief syndrome brought on by severe depression. 284 00:28:53,297 --> 00:28:56,164 He agreed to a polygraph because he knew he would pass? 285 00:28:56,234 --> 00:29:00,694 Come on. It's all in the confession. A man can't make up lies like that. 286 00:29:00,771 --> 00:29:05,003 He may be feeling so guilty he's convinced himself he's responsible. 287 00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:06,805 I've seen it before. 288 00:29:06,877 --> 00:29:10,938 He answered truthfully the questions about rage and anger, 289 00:29:11,015 --> 00:29:14,815 because he thought that's what the killer must have been feeling. 290 00:29:14,885 --> 00:29:18,787 But what the real killer felt is not hate, rage or resentment. 291 00:29:18,856 --> 00:29:22,724 He felt love, compassion. He didn't see the victims as victims. 292 00:29:22,793 --> 00:29:25,956 - He saw them as something else. - As what? 293 00:29:26,030 --> 00:29:31,058 Angels. That's how the killer saw the children at the moment of their deaths. 294 00:29:31,135 --> 00:29:32,864 Angels? 295 00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:42,543 In the interest ofjustice, Frank, I've given you everything you've asked for. 296 00:29:43,281 --> 00:29:48,947 Tomorrow we go before ajudge and jury. I'll be requesting the death penalty. 297 00:29:50,321 --> 00:29:52,846 I won't be needing your services any more. 298 00:29:59,764 --> 00:30:03,200 How do you know these things? I don't even know if I believe them. 299 00:30:03,434 --> 00:30:05,493 We need another examination of the bodies. 300 00:30:05,569 --> 00:30:08,697 That means an exhumation. Smith'll never go for it. 301 00:30:08,773 --> 00:30:11,071 - We'll go around him. - You can't do that. 302 00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:13,508 - You can. - How? 303 00:30:13,577 --> 00:30:16,341 You ask ajudge to order it. 304 00:30:30,895 --> 00:30:34,023 I understand this has put you in a difficult position. 305 00:30:34,832 --> 00:30:37,858 Is that what's occupying your mind right now? 306 00:30:37,935 --> 00:30:40,768 I was wondering where I'll be working next week. 307 00:30:41,505 --> 00:30:43,666 Yourjob is to tell the story. 308 00:30:45,443 --> 00:30:48,901 To find the truth. Isn't that what you want here? 309 00:30:50,715 --> 00:30:52,148 Yes. 310 00:31:03,094 --> 00:31:06,552 - Are you all right? - I think so. 311 00:31:07,298 --> 00:31:10,392 - Are you? - Whoever it was, it came from there. 312 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,435 - What does it say? - "Guilty. " 313 00:31:54,712 --> 00:31:57,180 Didi, what in the hell is going on? 314 00:31:57,248 --> 00:32:00,775 Whatjudge gives an exhumation order in the middle of the night? 315 00:32:00,851 --> 00:32:02,910 A federal judge. 316 00:32:04,655 --> 00:32:06,748 Who ordered this? 317 00:32:08,058 --> 00:32:11,050 - This went through my office? - Yes, it did. 318 00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:16,022 - What do you want with these bodies? - A re-examination. 319 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,796 These bodies have been examined. I did the work myself. 320 00:32:18,869 --> 00:32:22,828 If you have a problem executing the writ, we can have Dr Higgens do it. 321 00:32:27,745 --> 00:32:31,374 Go ahead! Dig them all up! 322 00:33:04,748 --> 00:33:07,512 Mr Geller, if you examine the hand, 323 00:33:07,585 --> 00:33:12,887 I think you'll find that the cuts come from an angle, slicing, not puncturing. 324 00:33:17,661 --> 00:33:19,686 We missed that. 325 00:33:21,131 --> 00:33:26,763 - I suppose we could consider these slices. - Enough to reconsider the term "defensive"? 326 00:34:04,642 --> 00:34:07,236 I know what happened. 327 00:34:10,981 --> 00:34:14,576 It's not a 1, it's an I for "Isaiah. " 328 00:34:17,121 --> 00:34:19,646 Chapter 28, verse 15. 329 00:34:24,762 --> 00:34:27,560 "We have made a covenant with death. " 330 00:34:27,631 --> 00:34:29,792 "We have made lies our refuge. " 331 00:34:29,867 --> 00:34:33,598 "And under falsehood have we hid ourselves. " 332 00:34:35,005 --> 00:34:40,739 I know what the lies were. You're not the person that committed these crimes. 333 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,945 Why are you here? What do you want? 334 00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:48,610 - I want to help you. - To do what? 335 00:34:48,686 --> 00:34:50,950 To live. 336 00:34:57,328 --> 00:35:00,229 Mr Garry, your wife was pregnant. 337 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,963 - You didn't know that, did you? - Of course I did. I knew that. 338 00:35:07,037 --> 00:35:13,465 No, you didn't. Not even when you picked her body up and carried her downstairs. 339 00:35:14,478 --> 00:35:17,572 I'm going to the judge with the truth. 340 00:35:17,648 --> 00:35:23,712 If you don't recant, it won't be enough. The jury's going to sentence you to death. 341 00:35:24,788 --> 00:35:28,747 And if that happens, you won't be paying for your sins. 342 00:35:30,260 --> 00:35:32,592 You'll be committing suicide. 343 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:41,501 The temple of God is the body the Lord has given us. 344 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,432 He's given it to us to last a very long time. 345 00:35:46,510 --> 00:35:49,604 The murderer who deliberately killeth shall die. 346 00:35:51,081 --> 00:35:52,776 Exactly. 347 00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:06,554 Mr Black, 348 00:36:08,832 --> 00:36:14,031 I am the only one who knows what happened that night, who's responsible. 349 00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:19,206 My blood must be shed at the moment of my death. 350 00:36:21,211 --> 00:36:26,649 To rob me of my salvation would be sentencing my soul to eternal damnation. 351 00:36:30,654 --> 00:36:34,385 Are you so righteous in your beliefs that you would allow that? 352 00:36:39,663 --> 00:36:43,622 Mr Garry, I can't let you die for something you didn't do. 353 00:37:12,596 --> 00:37:15,690 This is a photo from the crime scene. 354 00:37:15,766 --> 00:37:18,496 The killer wrote "12815" on the window. 355 00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:23,097 You'll notice there's no blood anywhere else in the kitchen. 356 00:37:23,173 --> 00:37:29,271 We took samples from the kitchen rug and found traces of urine in shampoo residue. 357 00:37:29,346 --> 00:37:35,046 In analyzing it, we found high levels of estrogen, indicating an adult female. 358 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,144 Mrs Garry. 359 00:37:37,221 --> 00:37:40,247 You're suggesting the kitchen was cleaned 360 00:37:40,324 --> 00:37:43,782 to hide the fact that Mrs Garry died in the kitchen, not the basement. 361 00:37:43,861 --> 00:37:47,957 Your Honor, even if Mr Black's suppositions prove to be true, 362 00:37:48,031 --> 00:37:53,059 even if Mr Garry moved the body, what does it prove? It's all circumstantial. 363 00:37:53,137 --> 00:37:55,128 Give me a month and I'll have data 364 00:37:55,205 --> 00:37:58,800 that'll refute every bit of information presented here. 365 00:37:58,876 --> 00:38:04,610 - A man's life is at stake. Take the month. - My conscience is clear with my God. 366 00:38:04,681 --> 00:38:08,242 My responsibility is to the people of this town. 367 00:38:08,318 --> 00:38:13,085 I beg you, don't spend their money. Don't burden their emotions unnecessarily. 368 00:38:13,157 --> 00:38:16,615 Garry should die for what he did. This town should move past this. 369 00:38:16,693 --> 00:38:19,389 Your Honor, I have spent my whole adult life 370 00:38:19,463 --> 00:38:24,628 trying to understand the mind of a killer, how he thinks, how he feels. 371 00:38:27,037 --> 00:38:30,700 Garry is not capable of doing the things he's been convicted of. 372 00:38:30,774 --> 00:38:35,302 Arthur Shawcross killed two people, was paroled after 14 years, 373 00:38:35,379 --> 00:38:39,406 and then murdered 11 victims before he was caught again. 374 00:38:39,483 --> 00:38:45,786 Garry slaughtered his family. God help us if we give him a chance to kill again. 375 00:38:51,495 --> 00:38:56,194 Have you taken the court's time just to deliver a psychological profile? 376 00:39:00,103 --> 00:39:05,131 There were five cuts on Mrs Garry's right hand that Dr Geller termed "defensive. " 377 00:39:05,209 --> 00:39:07,905 Here's how they really happened. 378 00:39:11,348 --> 00:39:14,408 The first two strokes pierce her left ventricle. 379 00:39:16,253 --> 00:39:19,347 The third stroke fully penetrates her left atrium, 380 00:39:19,423 --> 00:39:21,721 completely disabling blood flow. 381 00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:25,353 By the fourth stroke, she has weakened considerably, 382 00:39:25,429 --> 00:39:31,698 and her hand slides along the blade at this specific angle. 383 00:39:31,768 --> 00:39:34,396 The wound penetrates her right ventricle, 384 00:39:34,471 --> 00:39:39,932 causing massive bleeding into her pericardium. She dies seconds later. 385 00:39:41,245 --> 00:39:43,076 If you check forensics, you'll see 386 00:39:43,146 --> 00:39:47,549 that these markings match the wounds on Mrs Garry's right hand. 387 00:39:54,224 --> 00:39:56,124 Are you asking this court to believe 388 00:39:56,193 --> 00:40:00,129 Mrs Garry stabbed herself four times in the heart? 389 00:40:00,197 --> 00:40:03,689 A person in her frame of mind would be capable of anything. 390 00:40:04,434 --> 00:40:07,926 I had a case once where a man stabbed himself 27 times, 391 00:40:08,171 --> 00:40:10,469 three times in the heart, and lived. 392 00:40:10,540 --> 00:40:13,941 William Garry's fingerprints were on the murder weapon. 393 00:40:14,011 --> 00:40:17,276 The blood of all the victims was on his clothing and body. 394 00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:23,913 Why would a mother kill her children? 395 00:40:23,987 --> 00:40:26,547 As mad as it sounds, 396 00:40:26,623 --> 00:40:31,560 she saw her children as angels and wanted to keep them that way. 397 00:40:43,674 --> 00:40:46,734 William Garry has gone through due process. 398 00:40:46,810 --> 00:40:52,112 Nothing presented here would warrant an appeals court to overturn that verdict. 399 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:55,942 What is it you're asking this court to do, Mr Black? 400 00:41:04,161 --> 00:41:05,526 Billy! 401 00:41:05,595 --> 00:41:07,654 When Garry came in from the garage, 402 00:41:07,731 --> 00:41:12,759 the first one he saw was William Jr lying at the bottom of the stairs. 403 00:41:12,836 --> 00:41:14,929 Dolores! 404 00:41:21,144 --> 00:41:25,877 His youngest child, Gabe, lay in the hallway wrapped in a bloody sheet. 405 00:41:28,885 --> 00:41:30,978 Dolores! 406 00:41:37,260 --> 00:41:41,663 He went into his daughter's room and found her dead as well. 407 00:41:45,335 --> 00:41:48,463 He heard a noise. He ran to the kitchen. 408 00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:54,272 She had killed her angels, and now there was only one thing left to do. 409 00:42:03,086 --> 00:42:06,180 She had stabbed herself three times already. 410 00:42:07,324 --> 00:42:09,656 She told Bill it was his fault. 411 00:42:09,726 --> 00:42:15,995 She said he made her kill the children, then she stabbed herself one last time. 412 00:42:16,066 --> 00:42:17,931 He called you. 413 00:42:18,635 --> 00:42:22,298 He told me what she'd done. He asked me to come to the house. 414 00:42:22,372 --> 00:42:24,897 By the time I got there, he'd wrapped the bodies. 415 00:42:24,975 --> 00:42:27,170 He was a cop. 416 00:42:28,278 --> 00:42:33,079 He knew that if her body wasn't found next to the children it wouldn't fit. 417 00:42:36,053 --> 00:42:41,116 He said she couldn't bear living in a world of adulterers. Men like him. 418 00:42:42,292 --> 00:42:45,193 It was one night. I know. One night. 419 00:42:46,830 --> 00:42:50,766 William's the best man I know. There's nothing I wouldn't do for him. 420 00:42:50,834 --> 00:42:54,326 You cleaned the kitchen. You shampooed the rug. 421 00:42:54,404 --> 00:42:57,134 Why didn't you clean the numbers off the window? 422 00:42:57,207 --> 00:43:00,370 We closed the drapes. We didn't see them. 423 00:43:01,445 --> 00:43:04,573 Instead of looking for the truth, 424 00:43:04,648 --> 00:43:09,085 the people of this town were looking for whatever would put the pain behind them. 425 00:43:10,153 --> 00:43:14,817 That's what they thought they needed. What do you need? 426 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:22,396 I'm a police officer. Six months ago, I broke the law to help my friend. 427 00:43:22,466 --> 00:43:27,335 - Now you're asking me to betray him. - The judge is moving forward. 428 00:43:27,437 --> 00:43:30,964 The jury's going to come back with the death penalty. 429 00:43:31,041 --> 00:43:35,000 You helped him once. If you are his friend, you'll help him again. 37424

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