All language subtitles for The.Many.Lives.of.Benjaman.Kyle.S01E02.1080p.WEB.h264-EDITH_track3_[eng]

[Son Yo]
No -- no.

[Son Yo] No.

Benjaman ever mention anything

about what he might remember
about the Burger King?

When I found out
that Benjaman Kyle had lied

about the injuries
and the 911 call was a fake,

I was not about to drop it.

Because I knew this guy
was lying for a reason.

So I kept going.
And I said, "You know what?

I'm going to let him think that
I still believe him."

He thinks I'm a stupid person
that just wants to learn

about his memories.

But the whole time,
I was actually thinking,

"Why are you lying?

What are you hiding?"

[dramatic chord strike]

Benjaman didn't...

Benjaman didn't tell me
that he was not beaten.

I read a lot of the articles

that said that's how
he woke up.

And at that point,
being a student who was late on

assignment, I took
that and went with it.

And Benjaman never
corrected me on that.

The idea of him waking up
covered in blood was something

that was made up by Katherine.

[Benjaman]
Katherine was a nurse at
the J.C. Lewis Health Center.

Out of the kindness
of her heart,

she tried to help me.

As far as being covered
with blood and stuff,

I think Katherine exaggerated
some of that

because we had
absolutely no help whatsoever.

I mean, no one was interested
in this case.

She did exaggerated it
to get help.

[reporter] Bleeding and possibly
dead man.

[reporter #2] Head trauma
from a brutal beating.

[reporter #3]
Beaten and left for dead.

[John] He doesn't remember
when he woke up.

So if an assertive person said,
"You woke up covered in blood,"

this guy didn't
have a narrative.

So I think he believed it.

You know, and I'll tell you,
it gets exaggerated worse

the more further it goes.

It's like that
old telephone story.

I don't know.

There was no -- I was not
covered with blood.

[theme music playing]

[Michael]
Left four fingers.

The Benjaman Kyle case is one
of the most bizarre cases

I've ever worked.

It's very weird,
a lot of unanswered questions.

My name's Michael Albritton.

I was a chief investigator

during the investigation
on Benjaman Kyle.

I first got involved
in the Benjaman Kyle case

when I received a phone call
from Katherine Slater wanting

to know where we stood on
the investigation with Mr. Kyle

and his assault.

I told Ms. Slater
I was not aware of an assault,

and I talked to the police
officers that were actually

on the original EMS call,
and they disputed the claims,

basically saying that there was
no visible injuries

to his body,
that he was not bloodied.

I have a copy
of the Bryan County EMS report

right here.

According to the report,
no trauma noted.

So, I shared the information
I discovered with Ms. Slater.

She was adversarial.

She insisted
that he had been beaten

and that we
were not doing our job

by investigating his assault.

It was very suspicious to me.

And eventually,

the Richmond
Hill Police Department

and my reputation faced
some backlash in this.

People began to believe that
Benjaman Kyle had been beaten.

[reporter] Benjaman Kyle was
found beaten.

[Michael] Especially when he did
his media tours.

Ben, thank you for being here.

I never talked to
the local police.

People began to believe

that the Richmond Hill
Police Department

didn't care
about Benjaman Kyle.

And this grew
into an urban myth,

and it festered.

And even my mother called me
on the phone, and my mother

basically said, "Son, I raised
you better than that,"

because of the way
I was portrayed in the media.

I felt angry because
I knew what the truth was.

Benjaman Kyle was a fraud.

[Ken] The amnesia issue
was perplexing to

psychiatric specialists,

on numerous occasions,
questioned the amnesia

and was wondering
if it was malingering.

You know, the doctors
suspecting that he was

faking the amnesia.

♪ Oh ♪

♪ Whoa ♪

♪ Whoa ♪

♪ Whoa ♪

I don't remember
the bloody part.

The beaten part, yes.

But bloody, I'm not --

I just can't recall
at the moment.

But I didn't invent words.

I was trying to get help.

Benjaman lived with me
for about four years.

I wanted to help him.

I was like, "What can I do
to help identify you?"

I think it was a TV commercial,
and I thought, "FamilyTreeDNA.

"Why not?
Nothing else has worked.

How can it hurt?"

So I got that test
and that I administered to him

and mailed it in.

He seemed genuine
in the beginning,

but I saw little things

over time until
I couldn't ignore it anymore.

Benjaman kept up
with this online community

called Websleuths.

All these people that
have been trying to help him.

I really like to look
at Websleuths

in a very simple way --

don't be a jerk
and stick to the facts.

But eventually he had
some falling out.

They started to suspect

and believe that
he's not for real.

And then he started to get mad
at Websleuths,

the administrator, Trish,
and this woman, Liz Cook.

It really started to get bad.

Benjaman posed
as Liz Cook,

this person he was mad at,

and went on to this other site

and got access
and started bad-mouthing

her boss to get that person
in trouble.

I think Benjaman's pretty good
at computers.

He was good enough to go
into that woman's account

and pose as her.

It is completely wrong.

It's unethical.
It's immoral.

It's wrong.

He told me about it, laughing.

I think he thought
that I would share in that joke.

And instead of me sharing
the joke with him,

I got upset and said,

"Is that
what you're gonna do when --

when I have a difference
with you?"

And I was really upset that,

instead of this innocent,
poor victim

that he portrays,

he is showing
me how full of guile he is

and how bitter
and hateful and ugly

that is to do
that to a person.

It wasn't as overt as it was,
"How can I damage someone?"

It was so unbelievable,
and it's just

really underhanded.

I'm more afraid of people
like that.

I don't believe he is devious.

And that was the day I said,

"How do I plan
to get him out of here?"

[Katherine]
I started talking to him about,

how do you want to transition?
Where do you want to go?

I think our time is up.

He said,
"I'm not going anywhere."

That's when it really
started to get bad.

He really changed and became
hostile -- very hostile.

And here I have this person
that's very hostile to me

in my own home.
It's -- it's scary.

It's scary.

And then I said,
"Benjaman, we got to go now.

"You're out of here.

"Start cleaning
some of this stuff.

It has to go."

And we were heading out,

and I just happened
to turn around,

and he had this metal,
like, ring in the yard,

and he's burning something.

I turn around and said,
"What -- what are you doing?"

And I'm telling him,
"Hey, this is my property.

You have to stop."

You know,
"You're not allowed to

"just come and burn
on someone's property.

I'm telling you not to do this."

And he's continuing to burn.
I don't know what was in it.

And while he's doing this,
I'm just circling around

with the hose, trying to keep
the whole area wet

so it can't spread.

My brother, he's a retired cop.

And I said,
"I need you here now."

And he came over.

Benjaman had to be out,
[fingers snap], that moment.

He grabbed a backpack.
Maybe he planned this.

I don't know.
He grabbed a backpack.

I didn't search
any of his stuff.

He did something
to the computer.

Then he left.

He burns bridges.

He burns his bridges
where he goes.

Benjaman must have had things

that he didn't want people
to see.

Katherine had to get
her brother,

who is a police officer,

to come and physically
remove him from the property.

And it was only when I started
to go and talk to people

about what their experience
was with Benjaman Kyle

that I started to learn

who I was dealing with.

Benjaman has a long,
long trail of people

that he's taken advantage of.

♪♪

[Josh]
When I first became aware
of Ben's story,

he was living in the woods
at the time.

He couldn't get a job anywhere.

You know, it still almost
brings tears to my eyes.

[sniffles]

Yeah.

So, you know, I kind of come
from an area, you know,

I'd lost every --
my whole world at one time

had been lost and my life was

taken away from me
when my dad died.

And I just felt
this peace in my heart.

And he gained my trust so much,
which is so hard to do.

But somehow this guy
won me over.

♪ Ooh ♪

I had a garage apartment
at my house.

I told him, "You're welcome
to come stay at my house."

♪ Ooh ♪

But after a while,
the trust really was shattered.

And ever since then,
I haven't trusted him.

Yeah, he says,
"Oh, I know everything

you guys talked about.
I had it all recorded."

[ominous chord strike]

[Shannon] The more that
we learned about Benjaman Kyle,

it started to seem like

he was an antisocial,
aggressive, aberrant individual

that had a dark side.

And Katherine Slater said,
"I have a computer.

"It's my computer, but he used
it the entire time he was here.

He did something to it."
He had wiped it.

So she gave us this computer,
and we brought it to this

high-level computer
forensic company.

Hi, it's Eric Evangelista
and Shannon Evangelista.

-[Shannon] Hi, guys.
-[investigator] Afternoon,
everyone.

[Shannon]
We also have Alexander Block
with us today on our team.

So if you guys could kind of,
like, start from scratch

in terms of the computer,
that would be awesome.

[Shannon] Benjaman forensically
wiped this whole.

And he didn't just use some,
like, software that some

amateur buys at,
like, the computer store.

He used high-level forensic
wiping tools that you have

to have a very high level
of computer knowledge

to be able to do.

[ominous music plays]

It was terrifying
what was on the computer.

It seems like he was creating
fake emails to look like

Katherine's and sending himself
cold-case murders that happened

in Colorado when he was there.

This is the John Doe case.

On February 17th, 1977,
hikers discovered a body.

One of the murders
he sent himself

was right by where he was
standing on a mountain saying...

[Benjaman] If anyone
wants to get rid of a body,

this would be a good place
to shove one off.

[Shannon]
There was serial killer
stuff on there.

I mean,
you go into my computer,

it's like
"J.Crew is having a sale."

It's not like,
"Man murders prostitutes

and feeds them to pigs"
and "Burger Chef murder."

[reporter]
Four employees went to work
and were never seen alive again.

[reporter #2]
The brutal killing of four
Burger Chef employees

is one of the most notorious
unsolved crimes

in Indiana history.

[Shannon] Burger Chef murder,
Burger Chef murder,

Burger Chef murder,

all over his computer,
everywhere.

As you can see from this,
he has bookmarks

for Burger Chef.

I mean, if you take
all of this stuff together,

it was like getting
into the mind of Benjaman Kyle.

It painted a picture
of a very disturbed

and terrifying individual.

[Shannon]
When we got the results
of the computer forensics,

it revealed a terrifying side
of Benjaman Kyle.

This was a very scary person.

And then, out of the blue,
we got shocking news.

It's a Georgia mystery
we've been following for close

to a year, and this morning,
we've learned the unidentified

man living under the name
Benjaman Kyle now knows

his true identity.

[Shannon]
This is more than ten years
after Benjaman was discovered

by the dumpster
behind Burger King.

[reporter]
This is kind of a turning point
for you right here.

[Benjaman]
Oh, it's a big turning point,

because I did, you know,
legally, I didn't exist.

[ID clatters]

My name is
William Burgess Powell.

I just got an ID card in
my real name so that I can work

and get a job.
I am no longer a ghost.

I exist, and I have proof now.

I never thought it would happen.
[laughs]

[reporter]
Benjaman Kyle tells me
he finally knows his real name.

Benjaman got help
from this woman.

Colleen Fitzpatrick,
a forensic genealogist,

linked Benjaman
to the last name Powell

and this woman,
CeCe Moore.

The methodology that we used
to solve the Benjaman Kyle case

was actually developed
for adoption searches.

[reporter]
Moore and a team worked
on Benjaman's case

for two and a half years,
comparing his DNA to those

in databases across the country.

Along with information
BK thought he remembered,

Moore's team
made the connection.

When we first learned
who Benjaman Kyle was,

that he was William Powell,

all it did was raise
more questions.

When they first told me,
it was just shock.

It was just shock.

When they figured out
that they thought it was

William Burgess Powell,
they know I had three brothers.

Furman is the oldest,
then it's Thomas,

then it's me,
and then it's Robert.

Furman is in Indiana,

Thomas is dead.

And Robert is in Florida.

They did, uh.

They thought I was dead,
so they stopped looking.

[eerie music playing]

We are in my apartment
in Jacksonville,

where I am packing up
to leave for Indiana.

It looks like my brother needed
some help, and I feel

that that's my responsibility,
so...

moving to Lafayette.

-[Josh] You all packed?
-[Benjaman] Yep.

Getting ready to leave.

Definitely, you know, I still
think your whole story's

frickin' amazing.

Um, after these four
or five years together,

you're always welcome back here

if things don't
work out up there.

[Benjaman]
All right.

-I'd always help you out.
-[Benjaman] Let's, uh...

let's bring this to a close
before we both start crying.

All right, man.

Best of luck to you up there.
Travel safe.

And if this thing was a hoax...

-I really don't know
what I would say.
-[Benjaman laughs]

I would feel terrible, but, uh,

you know...

I really don't know
what I would say at this point.

No, you'd probably say,
"God, he was good.

He fooled everyone."

[Josh sighs]

[Josh] When he first told me
that he's been found,

it was so interesting.

There wasn't
this giant excitement.

There wasn't tears of joy.

It was more of like,
"They found me."

[chuckles sheepishly]
"Oh, boy."

You know, I was like,

"That is
such an odd reaction."

And then I says,
"Ben, what are you going to do

"if they find out
some solid information that...

you made this whole thing up?"

He says, "I'd be screwed."

I'm assuming I worked
in restaurants, I just --

I just know too much
about restaurants.

Oh, maybe something like
an Applebee's or a, you know,

a Denny's, you know,
stuff like that.

Which, by the way, you want
to film me getting a tattoo

with that number tattooed
on my butt?

-[Shannon laughs]
-[John] Yeah.

[laughs heartily]

But I've been seriously
thinking about that, yes.

Mine?

I put it in the phone books.

[John] I know.

Um...

Let's see.
What number did I put in?

Oh, I put it under my name,
I think.

[stammering]
I put my -- oh, God.

And I got -- [mumbling]

What the hell's going on here?

Fellas, I did not grow up
with a smartphone,

so I'm just not as damn fast

as what all you young kids are.

Uh-huh...

Contacts.

Uh...

You have the missing persons
report that was filed

by my brother?

[Benjaman] All right,
here it is -- I just sent it.

This is the one my brothers
filed when they filed

a missing persons report.

[Benjaman]
Yes.

Second page.

Upper -- upper-right corner.

When Benjaman found out he was
William Powell, through DNA,

the Richmond Hill
Police Department,

they gave it to him
as a courtesy.

But he didn't even share
that he had this document.

He's not being upfront with us.

[Shannon]
He caused a scene --

[Shannon]
This missing persons report
states that he was last seen

in Indiana in March of 1976.

[Ken]
So 1976 to 2004,

when he was discovered
behind a Burger King

next to a dumpster,
there's a long period of time,

almost 30 years that Benjaman
says he has no memory.

[Shannon]
It says that William Powell
had stayed in Boulder, Colorado,

and was working as
a cook in an Azar's restaurant.

Case withdrawn from the NCIC.

-We got his Social Security
records.
-[Ken] OK.

[Shannon] William Powell
stopped existing in 1983.

Basically, finding out that
Benjaman Kyle is William Powell

is only half of the story,

because who the hell
was he for 30 years,

when he was living
off the grid?

So we're going
to Social Security.

Why are we going
to Social Security?

We need to find out
where you've been,

especially during
that large gap of time.

At this stage of the game,
this is what I know.

I know Benjaman Kyle
is really William Powell.

I believe that Benjaman Kyle,
aka William Powell,

never had amnesia.

I know that he was only
William Powell until 1983.

Here's what I don't know.

I don't know
where the hell he was

from 1983 until 2004.

[Ken] OK.

[Benjaman] I don't want to.

-Hi.
-[indistinct chatter]

[clerk] Mm-hmm.

[Shannon]
Social Security administrator
told us that William Powell

had applied for Medicare

before CeCe Moore had
figured out who he was,

before he knew he was
William Powell.

I don't know.

Told you, I don't like
to speculate.

I don't know.
I changed my name, maybe?

Used another -- yeah,
and used another...

made up
a Social Security number, maybe.

I hear about people doing
it all the time.

I thought that's what I should
have done to begin with.

-Ten years ago.
-And work off -- work off
the books, you mean?

No, make up
a Social Security number.

-Well, that's fraud.
-I mean, yeah, well.

How do the Mexicans
get away with it?

Well, not all of them
get away with it.

They get deported and some
of them get thrown in jail.

You don't want
that to happen to you, do you?

Yeah, well,
how about a federal,

what do they call those?
A country club prison.

-[laughs]
-Yeah, yeah, you know,
we could probably

arrange that if you'd like.

[Benjaman]
Eric and Shannon, they got...

twins.

Maybe they got a nanny.

[ominous music playing]

[Alexander]
Yeah, that's not OK.

So if Benjaman...

signed up for Medicare
in April of 2015.
-Right.

He didn't discover who he was
until July of 2015.

[Ken]
Right.

How do you sign up for Medicare

if you don't know
your Social Security number?

It's impossible.

You cannot sign up for Medicare

unless you have
a Social Security number.

So, it clearly shows us
very definitively that he knew

who he was at least
as early as April 2015.

[Eric] It is a big deal.
So, he's lying.

[Ken]
He is absolutely lying.

-An intentional lie.
-He's lying, he's lying.

[soft music playing]

We're on my hometown
in Lafayette, Indiana,

and this is 18th Street.

I'm gonna meet my brother
in about five minutes.

I mean, you know, it is weird
because I don't --

I don't remember him,

and I'm gonna meet him.

We've talked a bit
on the phone,

so this is, uh,

gonna be interesting.

I'm a little nervous,
a little anxious.

For the last 10 years,
I haven't had a family

or a past history,

and now all of a sudden
I'm getting one,

and I hope it's one I like.

Uh...

Hopefully, all this is gonna
bring back a lot of memories.

I don't, uh...

uh...

You know, these streets seem
familiar we're driving on.

I'm sorry, I'm getting
preoccupied by looking

at the scenery and talking
at the same time.

Sorry, I guess
I am getting nervous now.

My name is Furman Ansel Powell,

and Benjaman's
my little brother.

And we grew up here

and actually grew up
in this house.

I haven't seen my brother
since the '70s,

and we just assumed
he was dead.

[Benjaman] I'm glad
we're finally doing this,

but, you know, this is

kind of strange to me
because I'm meeting a stranger,

uh...

who is actually not supposed
to be a stranger to me.

So I, uh...

[sighs]

Um.

I hope all this goes well.

I really want it to go well.

[groans softly]

[bleep]

That must be him.

I thought he had more hair.

Finally, we get to meet.

[Furman]
I can't hear.

Oh, I said,
"Finally we get to meet."

Oh, yeah.
So do we look alike?

I think a little, yeah.

Well, which one's
better looking?

-[both laughing]
-[Benjaman] I'm not --
I'm not --

I'm not gonna go there.

-I'm not gonna go there.
-[Furman laughs]

You don't have as much hair as
what I thought you would have.

[Furman]
No, it went years ago.

Ah, damn.

Old house.
This was our grandma's house.

[Benjaman] Looks like
it's aged like I have.

[laughs]

Where did you get that?

Oh, you and Dad made that
when you were Cub Scouts.

[Benjaman]
Pinewood Derby.

[Furman]
Yeah.

I thought you'd like that.

[Benjaman]
I'm surprised it's still here.

Well, Mom put that
in a china closet.

Mom loved you.

Not a day came by that
she weren't thinking of you.

They're all dead, but,
you know, it's...

I got a family.

It gives me a sense of belonging
that I never had before.

How'd it do in the race?
Do you remember?

It is a lot prettier
than it ran.

[both laughing]

Bill was extremely close
to our mother.

She was still grieving for him
the day she died.

-[Benjaman] That's Mom?
-[Furman] Yeah.

And I could see Dad
in your face a little bit.

At 10 years old, I didn't think
our childhood was abnormal.

Today, looking back,
it was very dysfunctional.

My father was drinking
extremely heavy, and there was

a lot of, today
it'd be called physical abuse.

My father losing his temper

and getting real physical
with Bill.

Bill was in pure hell.

Some of the things
that Furman told me,

he started describing

a few of the things that
happened when we were kids.

And I have to admit, I just --

I just sat down and cried
for a while.

I mean...

Ugh.

[voice breaking]
I guess it was just upsetting.

I don't feel like talking.

The abuse when I was a kid,

if it's as bad as
what my brother was saying,

it was -- saying it was,
that might,

to a large extent,
explain the memory amnesia.

Twenty years later, but...

I think there could be
a delayed reaction.

[Dr. Gorgens] I'm not sold
on Benjaman's amnesia.

Benjaman's assertion that
his memory loss is a product

of childhood trauma
decades later

doesn't necessarily add up.

It makes me suspicious

about whether Benjaman actually
has amnesia.

After reviewing
the medical records,

there are a lot of red flags.

When you see "malingering,"
it's like the scarlet letter.

The shorthand for "malingering"
is faking.

But why would someone lie
about having amnesia?

It might be because you were
doing something illegal.

[Furman]
With our father being abusive,

Bill had all this pent-up anger.

He'd fly off in a rage.

He'd blow up,

and he'd be
totally out of control.

[Ken] We're listening,
and Furman hadn't realized

he was being recorded.
His mic's still on.

The cameramen
hadn't shut it off,

and we captured this
brief conversation

between Furman
and his brother Bill.

[dark music playing]

That came out of -- completely
came out of nowhere.

We were not expecting that.

[Ken]
Why bring up killing people

to your brother
who just returned home?

[Eric] Now we really suspect
there's some big secrets

that we're not being led on to.

[woman] The only way to know
the truth about Benjamin.

We have to knock on doors and
talk to people who knew him.

He could be violent.

Did some stupid things.

[Woman speaking]

Come here buddy,
where the hell have you been?

I thought he was dead.

I am not
an ax murderer.

[laughter]

Maybe you
killed somebody.

I don't know.

Two of you guys,
you were trouble.

That's a
fair thing to say.

Who, at 3 o'clock in
the morning, takes the

plates off a car? People that
are hiding something.

The only thing they
could still be tried for

is a murder.

Christine Kozik was a Purdue
student murdered in '77.

Christine Kozik, did
he have something

to do with that?

I'm not afraid of Powell.

I'd worry a little
bit about if it was me.

Really?

[nervous chuckle]

They're watching
us at our house.

[uneasy music]