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[automated voice] At the tone,
please record your message.
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[beep]
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So the detective
who's coming over,
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she's got all connections
in the schools,
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'cause they'll
go over to the schools,
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talk to the school, too,
alert them of the situation.
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And how does
she know I have twins?
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Like, my social media
is blocked.
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I can't go back.
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'Cause if I could, I would never
have done this show.
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Like, ever.
Because she said my children.
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Like, kill me, fine, but...
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[Donald] I don't have an answer
for that, because we all know...
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-I literally can't even talk
about it without crying.
-...there's so much information.
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I get that.
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I mean, I stopped being
a prosecutor in part,
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like, I left the DA's office
because I didn't want [bleep]
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like this in my life.
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Obviously,
they don't want the story out.
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-[Eric] No.
-Now, who is -- who is "they"?
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That's the dilemma here.
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[Shannon] Eleven years ago,
I came across
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this completely insane story.
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It was about a man
that had amnesia.
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And I was obsessed.
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I was gonna do anything
that I needed to do to find out
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who this man was.
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It's pretty pathetic
if no one's actually looking
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for someone that disappeared.
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[reporter] No one recognized
this man with no name.
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[Benjaman]
You don't know who I am,
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and quite frankly,
neither do I.
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[Josh]
Come on in, man.
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He gained my trust.
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-Give me a hug.
-All right.
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I thought, "Let's get this guy
on his feet."
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[man] AB marker, mark.
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[Benjaman] Nothing right now
seems familiar to me.
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I don't remember anything.
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[Josh]
Come here, buddy.
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-I thought he was dead.
-Why did he leave?
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[man] He could have got mixed up
with the wrong crowd.
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In Lafayette,
we had criminal organizations.
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Statute of limitations
would be up
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unless there was
somebody killed.
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[Benjaman] It'd be a nice place
to get rid of a body.
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It'd be a while before
they found it.
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[dramatic chord strike]
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You and Dad made that
in Cub Scouts.
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I don't feel like talking.
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[woman] Maybe he claimed amnesia
because he didn't want
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the mafia coming after him.
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If he was running
from something,
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why would you want your picture
all over the place?
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Who the hell was he for 30 years
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when he was living off the grid?
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There's no paper trail
on this guy.
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I'm not an axe murderer
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because they can't find
my fingerprints
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anywhere on any crime scenes.
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[raspy laugh]
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Maybe you killed somebody.
I don't know.
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It's almost like a game,
like "You can't catch me."
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No, shut up!
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This is my life
you're [bleep] with.
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Nothing here makes sense.
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He's an anomaly of anomalies.
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[Shannon] One weird thing
after the next.
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What are you hiding?
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That is the million-dollar
question.
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[man]
It really is a quest for truth.
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Do you have
a definition of truth?
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[laughs]
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[theme music playing]
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[Sue]
In August of 2004,
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the tones went out
dispatching us
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to a Burger King for a man
that was unconscious and lying
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behind the dumpsters.
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I was one of the first people
on scene.
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My name is Sue Usry.
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I'm the paramedic
that responded to the call.
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When we got on scene,
he was totally nude,
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no wallet, no ID.
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Who is this guy?
How did he get here?
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What happened to him?
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[siren wailing]
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[Benjaman]
I don't know how I got there,
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and I don't have no memories
of who I am.
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I was also blind
with cataracts.
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I was taken
to St. Joseph's Hospital
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in Savannah.
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In the emergency room,
I remember hearing the doctors
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talking about that
they already had a John Doe,
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and I was found
behind a Burger King,
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so they just started
calling me BK Doe.
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And I remember they were
all laughing
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about that and making a joke
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that if I'd have been found
behind a McDonald's,
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I'd be McDonald Doe.
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Everyone just assumed
I was a homeless bum,
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and they didn't know
what to do with me.
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They kept asking me
what my name was,
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and I told them Benjaman.
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For some reason,
that stuck in my mind.
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I thought that was it,
with the odd spelling ending
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in M-A-N.
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And then everyone kept coming
in and asking me
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what the hell my last name was.
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And I finally, to shut them up,
I just told them it was Kyle,
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'cause they were
calling me BK Doe.
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And Kyle was the only thing
I could think of at the time
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that began with a K.
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They fixed my eyes,
got the operations
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for cataract surgery.
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Right after the surgery,
after it cleared up,
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I was in the bathroom shaving,
and I looked I looked
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in the mirror and I could not
recognize myself.
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I couldn't believe
what I was seeing.
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My hair is all gone gray.
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I looked so old.
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It was just shock.
It was just shock.
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I was thinking I was still,
like, 40 years old.
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But I'm not 40 years old.
I'm 60 years old.
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It just --
just did not look right.
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I didn't know who I was.
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The FBI did
one run of fingerprints.
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They did it both electronically
and with the ink.
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I never heard
a thing from them.
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-I finally walked over
to the office...
-[doorbell rings]
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...and rang their doorbell.
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You can't just get
into the FBI, I mean,
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but anyway, they
came down and said,
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"Oh, yeah, yeah,
you weren't in our files.
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"You weren't
on the most wanted list."
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So, no, I'm not the type
of person to be an axe murderer.
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[John] I read
about Benjaman's story online,
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and it was an unsolved mystery.
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[clapboard clicks]
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My name is John Wikstrom,
and in 2011,
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I was a student
at the FSU Film School.
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I had to do a documentary.
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I thought,
"This is a good subject."
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I said, "Sure, why not?"
And we made a documentary,
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which has gotten pretty famous.
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Hello, my name is
Benjaman Kyle.
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You don't know who I am,
and quite frankly,
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neither do I.
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If this were a game of Clue
and I had to give my best guess
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on what I think went down,
I think Benjaman was homeless.
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I don't think he'd got
in any crimes
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and wouldn't have
any fingerprints anywhere,
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but I think there had to
have been some kind of accident.
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[woman]
I think he passed out.
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People were saying that
I was beaten to a bloody pulp.
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[reporter] Bleeding and possibly
dead man.
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[reporter #2] Head trauma
from a brutal beating.
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[reporter #3]
Left him with a form of amnesia.
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Without memories,
without identity,
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there's not a lot
he can hold on to.
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In a field behind
the police department.
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'cause none of the homeless
shelters will take me in
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'cause I don't have any ID.
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Without
a social security number,
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you can't get a job,
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you cannot get a bank account,
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you cannot get a lease,
you can't do anything.
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The documentary
is an SOS message.
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It was a cry for help.
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Nobody has recognized me,
but I still have a past.
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It's been almost five years
that I've been working
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with Benjaman.
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We've spent so much
time together.
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I like walking in the streets
of the big city.
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Harry Potter's got
his footprints
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out here somewhere.
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He is a friend to me.
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He was a guest of honor
at my wedding.
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I know him in the way
that you know a friend
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or a family member.
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[bicycle bell rings]
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It's amazing,
the outpouring of generosity
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people have given
to Benjaman.
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Friends hooked him up
with a place to stay
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and with some cash.
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I guess I'm emotionally
attached to Benjaman.
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[sniffles]
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You know, in some ways,
I love the guy like a father
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or sometimes like a brother.
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Benjaman is quick to be friendly
with people all around.
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[Benjaman] Hey, man.
How you doing?
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-[Josh] He's charming.
-It was good seeing you.
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[Josh]
You know, he can crack jokes.
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You're not going to find
an apple fritter like that
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at Dunkin' Donuts.
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[Josh]
He's smart as a fox.
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[Benjaman]
This computer someone gave me,
Windows XP.
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[Josh] He liked going
to the hardware store.
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He loves tools.
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I'd really like
to have one of these.
[laughs]
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You know,
he could fix anything.
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This is a radial arm saw.
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Very knowledgeable
about history and movies.
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[Benjaman] "Kill Bill," that was
really funny -- I liked that.
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And really knows a lot
about restaurants.
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One time I went
to a restaurant,
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and I went in
and ordered french fries,
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'cause I love french fries.
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[music playing]
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They came out with
this huge plate of french fries,
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and then I started eating
the french fries,
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and I noticed
what the plate was,
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it had a dome in the middle.
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When they bring the plate out,
it looks like you're getting
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this huge amount of fries,
and you're not.
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[laughs]
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["I Can't Forget You"
by Lionel Wendling playing]
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♪ Dream ♪
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♪ Dream ♪
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♪ Just a little of you ♪
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[Dr. Gorgens]
There's so much about memory,
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the way the brain works,
that we still don't know.
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♪ I can't forget you ♪
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My name's Dr. Kim Gorgens.
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I've been studying head trauma
and amnesia for almost
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30 years.
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And I love a case
that gets your head scratched,
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that is a mystery.
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It's a little like
detective work.
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Movies about amnesia
kind of crack me up.
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The Hollywood portrayal
of amnesia
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couldn't be
further from the truth.
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It's almost never the case
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that someone
wakes up and is, like,
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completely wiped clean.
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I can't remember.
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That blank slate phenomena,
we would call that
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a generalized amnesia.
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In Benjaman's case,
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the experience of being
wiped clean is so rare,
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the odds of finding
a patient like Benjaman,
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it's mind-blowing.
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Benjaman
is in the less than 1%.
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There's only been
just over 100 cases
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in recorded medical history.
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In my experience,
people with amnesia
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have a lot of suffering.
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And if you can imagine,
in Benjaman's case,
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to wake up with no memory
of who you are,
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where you've been,
it would be devastating.
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And, I would imagine,
terrifying.
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You know, I never talked
to people about it
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because I never thought that,
you know,
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I had the right to impose
my problems on them.
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Sorry.
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I think for Benjaman,
it's been heartbreaking
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to live in this world
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without any means
of helping yourself.
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If I had to define
the last 10 years,
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I would say it, you know,
it's like being in hell.
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That's what I'd say it was.
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Without a Social Security,
you're pretty much a ghost
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walking through society.
You can't do anything.
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You don't exist.
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[John]
The reality is, is there is so
little
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he can do in his situation.
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I think it would be
too painful to have hope.
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[Benjaman]
Everyone we talked to
out there
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swore up and down that they
were going to solve the case.
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They didn't.
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[John] Do you think
there's anyone looking for you?
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Maybe a family member?
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You know, actually, it's --
when you think about it,
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it's pretty pathetic
if no one's actually looking
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for someone that disappeared.
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I mean, you know, isn't there
anyone important enough
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in your past life that
they'd want to look for you?
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Sometimes I just wish
I hadn't woke up.
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[melancholic music playing]
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I don't -- I
don't like living now like this.
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I think, uh...
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[ominous music playing]
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I don't see
that there's anything I can do.
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[John] There's a lot of people
that are helping him out.
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But when I put
a bigger magnifying glass on it,
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what I thought the story was
is absolutely nothing like
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what it actually is.
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[dramatic chord strike]
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[Benjaman]
This is the skeleton of what's
left of the Burger King,
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where I was found in 2004.
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The only thing
that's left is the -- the floor.
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That's the dumpster
I was found behind.
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This is where
Benjaman Kyle was born.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I suppose I could have been
sleeping in the woods back here.
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There's all kinds of remains
of homeless camps.
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I don't know.
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I mean, you know,
hell, it's possible that aliens
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dropped me off.
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This is a big mystery.
I don't know who I am,
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why I haven't been found,
what caused it.
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I do have some memories
of Indianapolis and Colorado,
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but my memories seem to end
in the middle of '86, 1986.
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And then after that, you know,
everything is pretty hazy.
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[Katherine] I believe that
Benjaman probably did suffer
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some kind of amnesia,
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but I think you can use
the things
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that happened in your life
to become stronger and better.
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My name is Katherine Slater,
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and I worked
at J.C. Lewis Health Center.
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And that's
where I met Benjaman.
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Life was so rough for him.
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He didn't have an identity.
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And I just thought the story
was just overwhelmingly sad,
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will bring you to tears
if you're human.
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When he got out, he didn't have
a place to go,
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and so Benjaman lived with me
for about four years.
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I wanted to help him,
like a puzzle that just has
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to be solved.
I got involved.
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I wanted to be the one
to solve it.
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And I thought, the only way
to really solve this,
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is national exposure.
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And then eventually,
Dr. Phil got in touch.
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[traffic noise]
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[coffee gently splashing]
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That's a damn fine cup
of coffee.
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My name is Harold Copus.
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I worked for the FBI
as a special agent
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for almost nine years,
and then did work
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for the Dr. Phil show
for almost 10 years.
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The Benjaman Kyle case
was just one of several hundred
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or more cases I worked.
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But this one baffled me.
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Here's a guy
that couldn't tell you
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where he bought his underwear.
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When I first got the telephone
call from the show,
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they said this guy
suffered from amnesia.
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And what
they wanted me to do
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was see if I could find out
the guy's real name.
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Helping to reunite a family
somewhere that's missing either
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a father or a husband.
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So, we're gonna do
something good.
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We'll throw Harold
into that barrel
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and see what he can do.
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00:17:57,243 --> 00:17:59,412
When I first met Benjaman,
he would say,
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"I have a memory
of Indianapolis."
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00:18:01,789 --> 00:18:04,166
One point he mentioned Colorado.
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00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:06,544
I traveled around
the United States trying
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to find his identity.
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00:18:08,838 --> 00:18:11,924
I'm knocking on doors,
looked through yearbooks,
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could not find
a photograph of this guy.
352
00:18:15,011 --> 00:18:17,805
And I've done about everything
you can do.
353
00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:20,558
I've run your fingerprints.
I got your DNA.
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00:18:20,641 --> 00:18:24,270
I've gone to Indianapolis.
I didn't go to Colorado.
355
00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:27,231
At a certain stage,
you just have to say,
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"Hey, we spent a lot of money,
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00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:32,320
and I'm not sure
where this is going."
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But I'm getting
a lot of pressure from the show.
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"Harold, what are you
going to do?"
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And so I said, "We need to do
an age regression
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"to what this guy may look like
when he's 20 years old,
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when he's 30 years old."
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00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,303
You know, everyone asks me
that question,
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and I get the impression
that people want me to,
365
00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:04,477
you know, stand around pounding
my fist against the wall,
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screaming,
"Why can't I remember this?
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00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:07,229
Why can't I remember this?"
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00:19:09,231 --> 00:19:10,441
Not until Dr. Phil.
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Ben, thank you for being here.
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[Benjaman] When I went
to the Dr. Phil show, they said,
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"We're gonna solve this case.
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"We are so popular
across the country.
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This case is gonna
be solved."
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We enlisted the help
of 200-plus stations
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around the country.
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[Harold] The Dr. Phil show
reached millions of viewers.
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I was convinced 100%
that somebody's gonna call in,
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00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:37,093
he will be identified.
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When that didn't happen,
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my reaction was,
"That's impossible."
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I was flabbergasted.
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00:19:47,103 --> 00:19:49,772
[John]
That was a big loss to Benjaman.
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00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:52,066
Once you're on national TV,
if nobody recognizes you,
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then that points
to a much bigger problem.
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[Benjaman] I don't know
what's gonna happen to me.
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-[Shannon] Hey.
-[Ken] Hey, Shannon.
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00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:19,301
So, Eric is here with me
and Alexander Block.
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00:20:19,385 --> 00:20:22,388
Can you just walk us
through what happened?
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00:20:22,471 --> 00:20:26,434
It was 2014 when I first
learned about Benjaman Kyle.
390
00:20:26,517 --> 00:20:29,645
I had been watching
an old movie on amnesia.
391
00:20:29,770 --> 00:20:31,272
How can I make any promises
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00:20:31,355 --> 00:20:33,274
when I don't even know
who I am?
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00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:38,654
And I Googled "amnesiac"
and Benjaman Kyle came up.
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00:20:38,779 --> 00:20:42,867
Eleven years has passed,
but Benjaman's progress
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00:20:42,992 --> 00:20:46,454
on figuring out who he was
hasn't changed since he was
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found in 2004.
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00:20:48,998 --> 00:20:51,083
My husband and I
own Hot Snakes Media,
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00:20:51,167 --> 00:20:53,043
and we make documentaries.
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00:20:53,169 --> 00:20:56,046
But before I became
a television producer,
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00:20:56,172 --> 00:20:59,300
I was
a deputy district attorney.
401
00:20:59,383 --> 00:21:02,052
Then I went to the Manhattan
DA's office,
402
00:21:02,178 --> 00:21:04,180
where I was an assistant
district attorney.
403
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,390
After that,
I went into private practice.
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00:21:06,515 --> 00:21:09,185
I did civil litigation,
and then I became
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00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:10,603
a television producer.
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00:21:10,686 --> 00:21:11,854
Thanks, guys.
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00:21:14,857 --> 00:21:17,693
♪ Ain't nobody better
than a legend in they prime ♪
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00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:20,613
[Shannon]
We have this amazing team.
It includes Ken Maxwell.
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00:21:20,696 --> 00:21:21,822
He's the former head
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00:21:21,906 --> 00:21:24,533
of the FBI Joint Terrorism
Task Force in New York.
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00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:27,745
♪ Aye-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi,
all work, no play ♪
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00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:30,372
[Shannon] And I just felt
between Ken, Eric, and I,
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00:21:30,456 --> 00:21:33,292
with our background in news
and law enforcement,
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00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:36,212
we're gonna be able to uncover
Benjaman's forgotten past
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00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:39,423
and hopefully reunite him
with his family.
416
00:21:39,548 --> 00:21:42,635
The coolest thing is I learned
that Benjaman has exactly
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00:21:42,718 --> 00:21:45,888
23 memories of his past.
418
00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:50,142
Colorado holds the majority of
Benjaman's forgotten memories.
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00:21:50,976 --> 00:21:52,353
When I found that out,
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00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:54,605
I knew I'd be able
to solve this.
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00:21:54,730 --> 00:21:56,774
[man]
AB marker, mark.
422
00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:04,365
Yeah, it's like
there's a huge gap.
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00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:07,117
I don't have
any memories from, uh,
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like -- like, the mid-'80s...
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00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:14,375
to, [stammers], 2004.
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00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:20,089
But I've got a lot of memories
from Colorado.
427
00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:22,758
I remember the Top
of the Rockies restaurant
up there.
428
00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:25,344
They had an outside elevator.
429
00:22:25,427 --> 00:22:26,679
Red Rocks.
430
00:22:26,762 --> 00:22:29,431
Blood, Sweat & Tears
concert, '78.
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00:22:29,557 --> 00:22:33,227
I remember the Big
Thompson Canyon flood on '76.
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00:22:33,310 --> 00:22:36,021
The Oh-My-God Road.
433
00:22:36,105 --> 00:22:38,816
When you're driving on it,
you're saying, "Oh my God."
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00:22:38,941 --> 00:22:41,569
I've got really vivid memories
of the two theaters that are
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across the street
from one another.
436
00:22:46,782 --> 00:22:49,201
[Shannon] So many people have
tried to help Benjaman
437
00:22:49,285 --> 00:22:50,244
over the past decade,
438
00:22:50,327 --> 00:22:54,206
but no one has
ever taken him back there.
439
00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:57,626
Benjaman hasn't been
back to Colorado in 30 years.
440
00:23:04,216 --> 00:23:05,718
Um...
441
00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:09,305
excited, eager, scared,
442
00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:11,432
you know...um,
443
00:23:11,515 --> 00:23:12,474
nervous.
444
00:23:16,854 --> 00:23:20,900
[airplane engine rumbles]
445
00:23:20,983 --> 00:23:24,987
[indistinct PA announcements]
446
00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:32,661
[Alexander]
This could be an amazing thing.
447
00:23:32,786 --> 00:23:36,916
You could unlock a past
and connect them to a family
448
00:23:36,999 --> 00:23:38,959
and loving people.
449
00:23:39,043 --> 00:23:42,880
But there's also that chance
that this man is a recluse...
450
00:23:43,005 --> 00:23:44,924
[children laughing]
451
00:23:45,007 --> 00:23:47,509
...and just
comes home to nothing
452
00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:50,679
and microwaves his TV dinner
453
00:23:50,763 --> 00:23:54,350
and eats his turkey and peas.
454
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:56,518
We don't know what
we're getting ourselves into.
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00:23:58,270 --> 00:24:00,397
But with that one memory,
if we find it,
456
00:24:00,522 --> 00:24:02,483
we can figure out
who this guy is
457
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,401
right here, right now.
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00:24:07,237 --> 00:24:09,073
[Benjaman] I have scattered
memories of Colorado.
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00:24:10,115 --> 00:24:12,201
I'm not sure how much
I'm gonna recognize.
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00:24:17,581 --> 00:24:20,918
♪♪
461
00:24:25,422 --> 00:24:27,716
-[beeping]
-I used to ride the buses a lot.
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00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:30,719
Public transportation
in Colorado.
463
00:24:34,890 --> 00:24:36,141
[bus honks]
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00:24:36,225 --> 00:24:39,937
I think basically
I'm the same person that I was
465
00:24:40,062 --> 00:24:43,065
then, I mean, I've always said
I was never an axe murderer,
466
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:45,859
and we've certainly
proven that,
467
00:24:45,943 --> 00:24:48,112
at least the ways
the FBI can't prove that now.
468
00:24:51,073 --> 00:24:56,078
[dramatic music playing]
469
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,418
[indistinct chatter]
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00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,753
[Benjaman]
We're at the University
of Colorado in Boulder.
471
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,090
I never attended school here.
472
00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:10,259
I just visited the library
to read the books.
473
00:25:12,428 --> 00:25:13,429
I'm sure I was here.
474
00:25:15,097 --> 00:25:16,265
I recognized the campus.
475
00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:25,774
You know, I was in that library
on an upper floor by a window
476
00:25:25,899 --> 00:25:27,985
that overlooked the atrium.
477
00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:30,112
And we know that was in '76
478
00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:33,741
because that atrium
opened in '76.
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00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:40,956
♪♪
480
00:25:45,586 --> 00:25:47,796
This does not feel
like I remembered it.
481
00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:51,717
I thought I would recognize it.
482
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,430
I know there was
a three-story atrium, [sighs].
483
00:26:01,143 --> 00:26:02,811
But it's not here now.
484
00:26:04,146 --> 00:26:06,648
It just feels
completely foreign.
485
00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:13,113
Yes, I know it's this library.
486
00:26:15,157 --> 00:26:17,576
I think they probably
switched everything around.
487
00:26:21,997 --> 00:26:25,501
I came here excited,
hoping that we figure out
488
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:26,627
who Benjaman Kyle is.
489
00:26:29,755 --> 00:26:33,592
Finding that one memory
that could just unleash
490
00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:36,512
Pandora's box and Benjaman
remembers everything.
491
00:26:37,846 --> 00:26:39,556
But it seems like
this isn't gonna be easy.
492
00:26:41,642 --> 00:26:42,851
This is one of the places
493
00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:44,561
that I was
most excited about visiting.
494
00:26:45,854 --> 00:26:47,147
But it's frustrating
495
00:26:47,231 --> 00:26:49,149
'cause I don't remember
anything.
496
00:26:49,233 --> 00:26:51,944
I'm just disappointed.
497
00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:55,739
Damn it.
[bleep]
498
00:27:07,042 --> 00:27:09,044
[Benjaman]
We are headed towards Red Rock.
499
00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:13,257
And I'm thinking that's it
up there on the right.
500
00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:28,981
[crowd cheers faintly]
501
00:27:29,064 --> 00:27:32,901
[Benjaman]
I was here in 1978 to see
a Blood, Sweat & Tears concert
502
00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:35,028
with the Denver
Symphony Orchestra.
503
00:27:36,155 --> 00:27:39,241
[electric guitar playing]
504
00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:42,202
They did "And When I Die."
505
00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:46,415
And this was one of the places
that we know 100% sure
506
00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:47,666
that I was here.
507
00:27:47,749 --> 00:27:49,459
Because that was the only time
that Red Rocks had
508
00:27:49,543 --> 00:27:52,337
a joint concert with
the Denver Symphony Orchestra
509
00:27:52,421 --> 00:27:54,339
and Blood, Sweat & Tears.
510
00:27:58,218 --> 00:27:59,428
I must have come with people
511
00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:01,138
because there's
no public transportation
512
00:28:01,221 --> 00:28:02,181
to these concerts.
513
00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:03,765
So I must have been here
with someone.
514
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:08,687
But I don't know who.
515
00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:14,693
It's starting to come together,
516
00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:16,195
but it's not in
517
00:28:16,278 --> 00:28:19,740
a significant-eureka-moment way
where he suddenly remembers why
518
00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,408
he was here
and who he was here with.
519
00:28:25,204 --> 00:28:28,582
♪♪
520
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,878
[Benjaman] Right now,
we're on Pearl Street.
521
00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:36,757
When I came here in '76,
they began the construction
522
00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:38,467
of a pedestrian mall.
523
00:28:40,761 --> 00:28:42,137
I think that's tobacco.
524
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:45,349
No, it says THC.
525
00:28:45,432 --> 00:28:47,184
[laughs]
Want to get high?
526
00:28:52,022 --> 00:28:53,899
All the kids had flat tops
when I was a kid.
527
00:28:55,525 --> 00:28:56,526
Be the guy in the center.
528
00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:01,073
Yeah, all the kids had
flat tops when I was a kid.
529
00:29:02,991 --> 00:29:05,202
It's the Fox Theater.
530
00:29:05,285 --> 00:29:08,413
I just had a memory come back
to me in which the manager
531
00:29:08,538 --> 00:29:11,291
let us, [stammers],
I was with someone,
532
00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:14,586
let us in to watch
the movies for free.
533
00:29:14,711 --> 00:29:16,755
We were talking to him,
and he let us in,
534
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,382
and we watched the movie.
535
00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:21,134
I don't know.
536
00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:23,345
I don't know.
537
00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:29,101
All of these memories he has
are shockingly non-personal.
538
00:29:30,978 --> 00:29:33,355
He can't tell us who he went
to the movie theater with.
539
00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:36,275
He can't tell us who he went
to the concert with.
540
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,361
The personal details
are completely missing.
541
00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:49,162
I think McNichols Arena
used to be right here.
542
00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:50,789
There should be
a Denny's up here, too,
543
00:29:50,872 --> 00:29:51,873
on Federal.
544
00:29:53,083 --> 00:29:54,251
OK, this is Colfax.
545
00:29:54,334 --> 00:29:56,169
That'll be a left
at the stoplight.
546
00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:57,462
Oh, oh, um...
547
00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:00,549
That's a taco place,
that Casa Bonita.
548
00:30:02,509 --> 00:30:04,636
Oh, there's a shopping center
up here on the right.
549
00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:07,723
Right there.
550
00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:10,017
You're gonna angle to the left
and go straight.
551
00:30:20,444 --> 00:30:21,695
[Benjaman]
I'm familiar with this area.
552
00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:25,907
I'm almost positive there's
a Jewish cemetery over there.
553
00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:29,202
Can we go across the street?
554
00:30:31,038 --> 00:30:32,331
Are we going?
I'm going.
555
00:30:33,290 --> 00:30:34,291
I'm going.
556
00:30:34,374 --> 00:30:35,584
[traffic noise]
557
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,461
-[horn honking]
-[man] Get out of the street!
558
00:30:39,379 --> 00:30:40,422
Cemetery.
559
00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:45,719
Kind of pictured the cemetery
as being sort of abandoned.
560
00:30:48,597 --> 00:30:50,807
[Benjaman] I don't know.
Kids hang around graveyards.
561
00:30:50,891 --> 00:30:52,017
It's a playground.
562
00:30:52,142 --> 00:30:54,561
Smoking pot,
having sex on tombstones,
563
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:58,106
and -- [laughs] -- doing, uh,
564
00:30:58,190 --> 00:31:00,067
satanic rituals or something.
565
00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:04,696
Wouldn't it be fun to dig up
a skeleton or something
566
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:06,031
when you were a kid?
567
00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:08,325
Did you ever want to dig up
a skeleton when you were a kid?
568
00:31:12,245 --> 00:31:13,914
I know I've been over here
because they had
569
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:15,207
equipment sales.
570
00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:19,795
I remember the equipment
being in the parking lot,
571
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:21,546
and they were selling it.
572
00:31:21,671 --> 00:31:23,423
I know that I worked
in restaurants.
573
00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:29,388
I don't know.
No.
574
00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:45,487
All right.
575
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:47,572
What? No.
576
00:31:47,656 --> 00:31:49,157
You're wrong.
577
00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:51,618
You lied to me when you said,
"We're just driving around."
578
00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:53,203
Why the [bleep]
didn't you tell me?
579
00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:55,205
Don't surprise me on this shit.
580
00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:01,086
No, I'm just feeling
like I'm being ambushed
581
00:32:01,211 --> 00:32:02,671
or trapped or something.
582
00:32:09,428 --> 00:32:11,930
Kind of pissed me off because
what the [bleep] is that shit?
583
00:32:16,101 --> 00:32:19,396
[Shannon] Initially, we really
wanted to help Benjaman Kyle,
584
00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:22,274
but the more
that we learned about him,
585
00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:24,276
the more
that he started to get angry.
586
00:32:26,695 --> 00:32:29,114
He wants to control
the flow of information.
587
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:41,334
[Benjaman laughing]
588
00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:47,132
Because I think
these mountain roads take skill,
589
00:32:47,257 --> 00:32:50,093
and when flatlanders come up
here and drive them
590
00:32:50,177 --> 00:32:52,304
they don't really
have the skill.
591
00:32:53,513 --> 00:32:56,558
This road is very narrow.
592
00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:59,478
All the locals call it
the Oh-My-God Road
593
00:32:59,561 --> 00:33:00,770
because when you're
driving on it,
594
00:33:00,854 --> 00:33:03,148
you're saying, "Oh, my God."
595
00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:06,359
The car is almost scraping
the cliff wall
596
00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:07,777
on the driver's side,
597
00:33:07,861 --> 00:33:10,822
and on the passenger's side,
there's no guardrails.
598
00:33:10,947 --> 00:33:14,826
You're looking straight down
a 200-, 300-foot drop.
599
00:33:18,788 --> 00:33:20,290
[Benjaman laughs]
600
00:33:23,877 --> 00:33:27,756
[eerie music playing]
601
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,675
[train whistle blowing]
602
00:33:34,346 --> 00:33:36,806
[Benjaman]
There's no cell phone service.
We're pretty high up.
603
00:33:40,143 --> 00:33:42,521
Yeah, if anyone wants
to get rid of a body,
604
00:33:42,604 --> 00:33:45,190
this would be a good place
to shove one off.
605
00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:48,360
It'd be years
before they found it.
606
00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:00,330
You don't
like my body comment?
607
00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:05,001
That's all right.
608
00:35:24,706 --> 00:35:26,875
I was trained
in criminal investigations,
609
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,628
because I had a background
as a prosecutor.
610
00:35:29,711 --> 00:35:32,464
And when someone's lying
or they're guilty of something,
611
00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:34,174
I'm pretty good
at figuring it out.
612
00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:37,802
I mean, just think about this
for a second.
613
00:35:37,886 --> 00:35:39,638
You're a person
who's trying to figure out
614
00:35:39,721 --> 00:35:41,306
who you used to be.
615
00:35:42,098 --> 00:35:44,976
The one thing that's gonna
really help you do that is
616
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:49,064
linking yourself to a person
that remembers you.
617
00:35:49,189 --> 00:35:53,109
But he doesn't want
to be asked about who.
618
00:35:53,234 --> 00:35:56,154
So what this
is starting to seem like
619
00:35:56,237 --> 00:35:58,573
is that he
doesn't want us to know.
620
00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:03,036
And then that makes me wonder,
"What are you hiding?"
621
00:36:04,287 --> 00:36:07,582
We cannot trust
Benjaman's version of events.
622
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:09,501
We need to talk to the people
that were there
623
00:36:09,584 --> 00:36:11,086
at the very beginning.
624
00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:16,424
No.
625
00:36:16,549 --> 00:36:18,968
I was one of the first people
on scene,
626
00:36:19,094 --> 00:36:20,553
and Benjaman Kyle was
627
00:36:20,637 --> 00:36:22,764
not beaten,
and he was not bloody.
628
00:36:27,686 --> 00:36:29,062
No, sir, I didn't.
629
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:35,443
If anybody did hit him,
I don't know.
630
00:36:35,568 --> 00:36:38,238
But there was
no bleeding anywhere.
631
00:36:38,321 --> 00:36:40,448
Just nothing made sense
that morning.
632
00:36:41,616 --> 00:36:42,617
It's just odd.
633
00:36:51,626 --> 00:36:53,628
I'm Thomas Auer.
634
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:55,505
I was the general manager
for the Burger King
635
00:36:55,630 --> 00:36:57,966
that Benjaman
was found at.
636
00:36:58,091 --> 00:37:01,553
And this is my wife, Son Yo.
637
00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:03,304
Mm-hmm.
And Son's the one that actually
638
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:05,765
found him in the dumpster area.
639
00:37:10,145 --> 00:37:11,896
-No blood.
-[Son Yo] No blood.
640
00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:13,481
-No blood whatsoever.
-[Son Yo] No.
641
00:37:15,525 --> 00:37:16,860
[Thomas]
I made a phone call
642
00:37:16,985 --> 00:37:19,404
to the Richmond Hill
Police Department dispatcher
643
00:37:19,487 --> 00:37:21,322
and asked them
to dispatch the police
644
00:37:21,406 --> 00:37:23,116
down to take care
of the situation.
645
00:37:26,536 --> 00:37:28,121
No.
646
00:37:28,204 --> 00:37:29,289
No, it wasn't 911.
647
00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:31,332
It was straight
to the dispatcher's office.
648
00:37:39,841 --> 00:37:41,676
So you can just press play.
649
00:37:48,850 --> 00:37:50,185
Who's this lady
that claims she found him?
650
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:51,269
Who say to find kill him?
651
00:37:54,522 --> 00:37:55,690
I don't know who that lady was.
652
00:37:55,774 --> 00:37:57,776
-She did not find him.
-She said "find him?"
653
00:37:57,859 --> 00:37:58,943
He wasn't beaten,
654
00:37:59,027 --> 00:38:00,695
that we can see.
-No.
655
00:38:00,779 --> 00:38:03,239
-There was no blood
of any kind, anywhere.
-No.
656
00:38:07,076 --> 00:38:08,203
Yeah.
657
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:19,798
My name's Tracey Davis.
658
00:38:19,881 --> 00:38:22,759
I was a student
at FSU College of Social Work.
659
00:38:22,884 --> 00:38:25,553
I've always wanted to be
an actress, always wanted to be
660
00:38:25,678 --> 00:38:28,640
on TV, wanted to be
in front of the camera,
661
00:38:28,723 --> 00:38:30,099
anytime, all the time.
662
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:35,396
I heard about an audition
through FSU Film School,
663
00:38:35,522 --> 00:38:40,401
this role being
a frantic caller that calls 911.
664
00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:42,946
And they had about maybe
40 different people that was
665
00:38:43,071 --> 00:38:45,240
reading for that role.
666
00:38:45,365 --> 00:38:47,909
When I did the casting call,
I did it with John Wikstrom
667
00:38:48,034 --> 00:38:49,452
and Benjaman Kyle.
668
00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:50,912
There was
some stiff competition,
669
00:38:50,995 --> 00:38:53,581
but after I read
for the line several times,
670
00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:55,375
they picked me
because I'm the best.
671
00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:02,340
Yes, that was me.
672
00:39:04,717 --> 00:39:07,220
John gave me the most direction,
and for the most part,
673
00:39:07,303 --> 00:39:10,056
we tried maybe
about 10 different ways,
674
00:39:10,139 --> 00:39:11,766
and then they came up
with a way
675
00:39:11,891 --> 00:39:13,643
to not sound so dramatic,
676
00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:15,270
but just actually just being
677
00:39:15,353 --> 00:39:17,188
more shocked,
but less dramatic.
678
00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:20,900
Benjaman and John both were
really excited
679
00:39:20,984 --> 00:39:22,610
about the project,
and when I was done,
680
00:39:22,694 --> 00:39:23,653
they gave me hugs,
681
00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:25,280
and they were like,
"Thank you so much.
682
00:39:25,405 --> 00:39:26,781
"This is exactly what we needed.
683
00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:28,533
It's gonna really turn out
really well."
684
00:39:31,953 --> 00:39:33,037
[phone line ringing]
685
00:40:05,111 --> 00:40:06,112
Um...
686
00:40:09,824 --> 00:40:10,825
[John]
I know.
687
00:40:14,996 --> 00:40:16,122
Mm-hmm.
688
00:40:22,295 --> 00:40:23,338
Absolutely.
689
00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:25,340
[Shannon]
If the 911 call is fake,
690
00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:27,550
then what else is fake?
691
00:40:27,675 --> 00:40:30,637
[Benjaman] I was found behind
a dumpster at Burger King.
692
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:35,016
I don't know how I got there,
and I don't have memories
693
00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:37,060
of who I am.
694
00:40:37,185 --> 00:40:38,937
[Shannon]
If he wasn't beaten and bloody
695
00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:40,480
and there's
no blunt-force trauma,
696
00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:43,149
then how did
he lose his memory?
697
00:40:43,232 --> 00:40:45,151
I think McNichols Arena
used to be right here.
698
00:40:45,234 --> 00:40:46,778
There should be a Denny's
up here too.
699
00:40:46,861 --> 00:40:49,530
Now I was here to see
a Blood, Sweat & Tears concert.
700
00:40:49,614 --> 00:40:51,324
I was definitely here
with someone.
701
00:40:51,407 --> 00:40:54,577
[Shannon]
The 23 memories that we chased
all over Colorado.
702
00:40:58,373 --> 00:40:59,832
I don't, I mean,
703
00:40:59,916 --> 00:41:01,709
it just feels
like I'm being ambushed
704
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:03,002
or trapped or something.
705
00:41:03,086 --> 00:41:05,088
[Shannon]
Were any of those even real?
706
00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:08,216
[Benjaman] People want me to
pound my fist against the wall,
707
00:41:08,341 --> 00:41:09,717
screaming,
"Why can't I remember this?
708
00:41:09,842 --> 00:41:11,219
Why can't I remember this?"
709
00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:13,513
Oh, oh, that's a taco place.
710
00:41:13,596 --> 00:41:15,723
[Shannon] Is the story
of Benjaman Kyle's amnesia
711
00:41:15,848 --> 00:41:18,226
just total bullshit?
712
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:19,352
I don't know.
713
00:41:20,061 --> 00:41:22,647
[Shannon] Is there something
he's hiding from his past?
714
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:25,441
What kind of person
would do this?
715
00:41:29,946 --> 00:41:32,824
[ominous music playing]
716
00:41:32,907 --> 00:41:35,410
[laughing]
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