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JOHNNY CASH: Right now I'd like
you to meet a young lady,
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a very lovely young lady,
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that I really think has
what it takes to be around
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for a long, long time to come.
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I'd like you to meet
Ms. Linda Ronstadt.
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[You're No Good
by Linda Ronstadt]
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♪ Feelin' better ♪
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♪ Now that we're through ♪
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♪ Feelin' better ♪
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♪ 'Cause I'm over you ♪
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♪ I learned my lesson ♪
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♪ It left a scar ♪
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♪ Now I see
How you really are ♪
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♪ You're no good
You're no good ♪
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♪ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ♪
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♪ I'm gonna say it again ♪
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♪ You're no good
You're no good ♪
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♪ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ♪
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Here's a gal
who really sings great.
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We had her on the show last
year and she was sensational.
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DICK CAVETT: My first guest
occupies a prominent place
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in the Top 40 record charts
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and she
has a big one right now.
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HUGH HEFNER: Linda Ronstadt is
one of the really great talents
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in country music.
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Would you welcome
please Linda Ronstadt.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
Ms. Linda Ronstadt.
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♪ Now baby
and I'm going my way ♪
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♪ Forget about you, baby ♪
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♪ 'Cause I'm leavin'
To stay ♪
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♪ You're no good... ♪
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Linda could literally
sing anything.
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♪ No good
[No good] ♪
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BONNIE RAITT:
I don't think anybody has
tried more different styles
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and nailed it than Linda has.
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There's not that many people
that can pull off new wave music
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and rock and the most
beautiful country ballads.
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Her range is huge.
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JOHN BOYLAN: She decided
what she wanted to do.
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More important what she
was authentic at doing.
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And they always told her no,
you can't do this,
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you'll ruin your career.
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She did it anyway.
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♪ Good ♪
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LINDA RONSTADT: Someone
once asked why people sing.
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I answered that they sing
for any of the same reasons
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birds sing.
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They sing for a mate.
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To claim their territory.
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Or simply to give voice
to the delight of being alive
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in the midst of a beautiful day.
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They sing so the subsequent
generations won't forget what
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the current generations endured
or dreamed or delighted in.
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There are a lot of really
good singers out in the world.
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A lot of better singers
than I am.
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What I did that was different
from other singers,
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I did a whole lot of
different kinds of material.
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People would think that I was
trying to reinvent myself
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but I never invented
myself to start with.
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I just kind of popped out
into the world.
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My mom grew up in Michigan.
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Her dad was an inventor.
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He was the third to
Thomas Edison in the number
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of useful inventions in the 50s.
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He invented the electric stove,
the electric toaster.
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The thermostat for Westinghouse.
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But my grandmother
had Parkinson's disease
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and he spent all his money
trying to find a cure.
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And that's what I have now.
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My mom was really smart too.
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She wanted to study math
and physics
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and the University of Arizona
was really good for that.
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She came out to Tucson
where she met my father.
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My great grandfather
Frederick Ronstadt
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came from Germany
to Mexico in 1839.
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My father's father, Frederico,
moved to Tucson when he was 14
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to work as a wagon maker.
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But his true passion was music.
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So he started the Club
Filharmonico Tucsonense.
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He was the one who
wrote the arrangements
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and taught everybody
how to play their instruments.
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He was like the Music Man.
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If you wanted to serenade
your sweetheart,
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you'd get my grandfather's
band to go.
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And if you had a wedding
or a funeral,
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well, they'd show up for that.
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First time my mother ever saw
my dad he was riding his horse
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up the steps of her
sorority house.
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My dad had a lovely
baritone tenor voice
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and knew a lot of beautiful
Mexican love songs
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that were rooted
in his childhood.
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He serenaded my mother
underneath her balcony.
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And she fell big for him.
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♪ I'm a rambler ♪
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♪ I'm a gambler ♪
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♪ I'm a long way from home ♪
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♪ If you people ♪
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♪ Don't like me ♪
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♪ You can leave me alone ♪
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RONSTADT: I grew up in Tucson
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on the last ten acres of my
grandfather's cattle ranch.
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We were very isolated
so if you wanted entertainment
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you kind of had
to make your own.
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There was a lot of music
going on in that house.
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Some of it came in
through the radio.
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That was my best
friend in the world.
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♪ How's about cooking... ♪
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We had an amazing radio
in Tucson
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because it was really close
to the border.
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We could get the
Louisiana Hayride.
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♪ Get goin'
Louisiana Hayride ♪
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♪ No use for callin' de roll ♪
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♪ Can't help... ♪
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RONSTADT:
American standards.
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♪ ...loving that man of mine ♪
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RONSTADT: But my grandmother
and grandfather
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were classical music devotees.
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So I would go over to their
house on Saturday morning
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and listen to a live broadcast
from the Metropolitan Opera
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and come home and my dad
would be playing Mexican songs
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on the piano.
My mom would be playing
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some Gilbert and Sullivan piece.
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♪ True peace of mind ♪
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RONSTADT:
My sister loved Hank Williams.
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She loved country music.
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♪ I can't help it ♪
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♪ If I'm still in love
With you ♪
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My brother would be
singing really high soprano.
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He was in a world-class boys
choir and he was their soloist.
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She wanted to know how
to sing so I taught here.
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So she learned about vibrato
and all that kind of stuff
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when she was like five,
six years old.
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LINDA RONSTADT:
We learned so much about singing
from each other.
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It was completely
incorporated into what we did.
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We sang at the dinner table,
we sang in the car,
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we sang with our hands
in the dishwater.
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I thought Spanish was this
magical musical language.
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When I was growing up
I thought people sang in Spanish
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and spoke in English.
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If you spoke Spanish on the
playground you'd be punished.
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You weren't allowed to do it.
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My sister and brother and I
eventually formed
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a little group.
We called ourselves
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The New Union Ramblers.
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We thought that sounded folky.
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Bobby Kimmel was a guitar
player that I met in Tucson.
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He wrote songs
about his own life.
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I remember them being
one of the best vocal groups
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I had ever heard.
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RONSTADT:
Bobby joined our family group
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and then he and I used to play
as a duet sometimes.
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We played little clubs in Tucson
but there wasn't very much
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opportunity for us there.
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At some point reality stepped
in and my sister had three kids.
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And then my brother went to
work for the police department.
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Bobby wanted to earn
some money playing music.
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So he went off to California.
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And I was the last man standing.
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[California Dreaming
by the Mamas and the Papas]
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♪ All the leaves are brown
[All the leaves are brown] ♪
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KIMMEL: I went to LA with the
intention of forming a band.
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When I saw the quality of the
singers that were out there
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I started writing
to Linda saying
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if you come out we could form
a band and get a record deal.
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RONSTADT: I knew they had more
clubs to play in Los Angeles.
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♪ California dreaming
[California dreaming] ♪
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PETE RONSTADT: I was telling her
this is kind of an iffy thing.
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You might starve to death
or you might find yourself
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washing dishes
and waiting tables
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before you ever get discovered.
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She says I'm willing
to take the chance.
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LINDA RONSTADT:
I was 18 years old.
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We had a house on the beach
for 80 bucks a month
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in Santa Monica.
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We split the rent three ways.
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It was just great.
It was right on the beach.
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KIMMEL: Once she got there
we got to work right away
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and we used to practice
every day.
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RONSTADT: Bobby introduced me
to a really good guitar player
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named Kenny Edwards
and we formed a little band
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and we called ourselves
The Stone Ponies.
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♪ Look out your window ♪
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♪ The rain is turning
Into snow ♪
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We started playing
little beatnik dives
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and strange pizza parlors,
wherever we could get a job.
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♪ Oh how you love me... ♪
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There was the trip where I heard
this band called The Byrds.
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They had a light show
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and a lot of acid tripping
kind of stuff going on.
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The Whiskey A Go Go
was very rock and roll.
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I heard the Doors there
and I thought
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oh they're be a really hit band
if they get rid of their singer.
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♪ Go, love
Open up the door... ♪
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RONSTADT:
There was the Ash Grove.
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That was where you go
for authentic folk music.
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It's where I first
heard Ry Cooder.
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♪ Have you seen
that vigilante man? ♪
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Ry Cooder was then and now
the most amazing guitar player
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I've ever heard.
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I knew that had good musicians
in Los Angeles
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but this guy
is really something.
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I thought I'm staying here.
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I'm not going back
to Tucson to live.
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♪ All over the land ♪
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RY COODER: She came
to Los Angeles at a time
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when the LA rock and roll scene
was in gear and was going.
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Because, see, after
The Byrds did their thing
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with Mr. Tambourine Man,
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then the whole damn thing
broke loose
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and all the record companies
when scurrying around
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like headless chickens trying
to figure out what to do.
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Who can sing folk rock
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and how can we define what
this thing is going to be?
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♪ Hey Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me ♪
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DON HENLEY: There was a lot
of cross pollination
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that started happening
in the mid-60s, you know,
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country music and folk music
and rock music started
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commingling and blending and you
would get all these hybrids.
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TV ANCHOR:
The Troubadour, just a few
blocks from Hollywood Boulevard,
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is known as an avant garde cafe.
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It's the favorite of Hollywood's
young and young at heart.
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RONSTADT:
The Troubadour was where
everybody went to hang out
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and to be noticed.
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You wanted to make yourself
known to the record community at
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large, you go to the Troubadour,
play an open mic night.
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JD SOUTHER: I can't even name
all the great songwriters
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that came through there.
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I mean, Laura Nyro, Neil Young,
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Joni Mitchell, Tim Hardin,
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Kris Kristofferson, Rick Nelson,
Elton John,
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Jackson Browne.
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It was just week after week
of amazing,
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game-changing songwriters.
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♪ Some of them were dreamers ♪
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♪ Some of them were fools ♪
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♪ Who were making plans ♪
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♪ And thinking of the future ♪
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I mean, you tried to get a gig
at the Troubadour.
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You wanted to play
the Troubadour.
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All kinds of industry
people hung around in the bar.
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ROBERT HILBURN: The Troubadour
is important because
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that's where you can get seen.
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It was the place to play.
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Like the minor leagues
in baseball.
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This was your chance,
this was your great chance.
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DAVID GEFFEN: The Troubadour
was a bustling place.
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They had a hootenanny night
where new artists would come
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and sing a few songs and I used
to go to every hootenanny night
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to see if there was anybody
really talented.
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BROWNE: The Hoot, the Monday
night open mic Hootenanny
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where you'd wait
and get on the list
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and you go up there
and sing your new song.
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SOUTHER:
You got two or three songs.
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If you were no good you probably
didn't last the second song
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because were, "Hey, get off!"
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And maybe not
even the first song.
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♪ Oh, you and I, travel to the
Beat of a different drum... ♪
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RONSTADT: I heard a song
called Different Drum
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by this bluegrass group
called The Greenbriar Boys.
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♪ Every time you make... ♪
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It was written by Mike Nesmith
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who was eventually going
to join the Monkees.
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♪ You cry and moan
And say it will work out ♪
265
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♪ But honey child
I've got my doubts ♪
266
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♪ You can't see the forest
For the trees ♪
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♪ So don't get me wrong
It's not that I knock it ♪
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♪ it's just that I am not
In the market ♪
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♪ For a boy who wants
To love only me ♪
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RONSTADT: We got an immediate
response from managers
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and people who were interested
in our career.
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KIMMEL: Herb Cohen
was managing Frank Zappa.
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We had head that he had
been a soldier of fortune.
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He was have killed somebody.
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He was a badass.
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But he was established
and he immediately said,
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"I can get you a record deal."
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♪ I believe
And I see no sense... ♪
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We recorded a few things,
just the tree of us.
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Then he took those
to the people in power
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and said, "I want to
record these guys."
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Capitol said okay.
283
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We signed papers and we
were off and running.
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♪ Live without me ♪
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RONSTADT: So we recorded it
with a mandolin
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and a couple
of acoustic guitars
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and the record company
didn't like it.
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And so they said well come back,
we want to recut the song.
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KIMMEL: Certainly everything
changed in the studio.
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RONSTADT: They had a bunch
of strings in there
291
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and it was an orchestra
session. I went wait a minute,
292
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this isn't the way
I thought about the song.
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[Different Drum
by the Stone Poneys]
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I said I don't want to put it
on the record because
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that wasn't the way
I'd originally envisioned it.
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♪ You and I count to the beat
Of a different drum ♪
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♪ Oh can't you tell
By the way I run ♪
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♪ Every time
You make eyes at me ♪
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RONSTADT: It was a good thing
they didn't listen to me
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because it was a huge hit.
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PETE RONSTADT:
I'm driving down the road,
you know, in my car
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listening to KTKT radio
and all of a sudden
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she's singing Different Drum.
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I said wait a minute!
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BONNIE RAITT:
I loved her voice from
the first time I heard her.
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I was a freshman in college.
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The Stone Poneys,
Different Drum.
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Yeah, baby!
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It was just like wow!
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It was just like to pull back
the covering
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of a fully developed
vocal stylist.
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♪ Yes and I ain't sayin'
You ain't pretty ♪
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♪ All I'm sayin' I'm not ready ♪
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HILBURN:
Most of the time as a critic
you're sitting there saying,
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"We don't give the artist a plus
for this and a minus for this.
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This is kind of good,
that's not so good."
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Bang!
It was like a home run.
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♪ Goodbye! ♪
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♪ I believe in a... ♪
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KIMMEL:
We were out on this tour
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and Herby Cohen comes
to my hotel room and says,
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"I need to tell you that
when we get back to LA,
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the band is breaking up."
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Everybody said, "I don't know
about you two guys
325
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but we want the girl singer."
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RONSTADT:
The record company wanted to
develop me as a solo artist.
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Kenny decided to go off to India
and find a guru and meditate.
328
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And Bobby started a folk
club in LA called McCabe's.
329
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And I was left with
what in the world to sing.
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I was by myself.
331
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A harmony singer
with no material.
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HILBURN:
The remarkable thing about
the Stone Poney days was
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she had the nerve
to leave a male band
334
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after it had already had a hit
and go on her own.
335
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Will you welcome please
Ms. Linda Ronstadt?
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Ronstadt, Ronstadt.
337
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Did anyone ever suggest that
that isn't the most musical name
338
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in the world.
339
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That maybe you should
change it to Linda Marlow or...
340
00:18:36,943 --> 00:18:37,944
Is there a Linda Marlow?
341
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And once they learn how
to pronounce my name,
342
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that leads to free-for-all
kinds of variations.
343
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Glenn Campbell once
called me Linda Bedstead.
344
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You know, I remember you
when you were nothing
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but a little Stone Poney.
346
00:18:50,267 --> 00:18:51,475
Oh yeah?
347
00:18:51,509 --> 00:18:52,959
I didn't have any idea
what that means.
348
00:18:52,993 --> 00:18:56,342
I know that you were
part of a group, right?
349
00:18:56,376 --> 00:18:58,171
Let's see, how do I explain this
on television
350
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and not get yelled at.
351
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CAVETT:
Oh, then maybe you don't.
352
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- I think I don't.
- Oh, yeah?
353
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Oh, is it an inside meaning?
354
00:19:05,765 --> 00:19:08,526
Yeah, it has a
lot of different...
355
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♪ Love will abide ♪
356
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♪ Take things in stride ♪
357
00:19:18,916 --> 00:19:22,782
♪ Sounds like good advice ♪
358
00:19:22,816 --> 00:19:27,235
♪ But there's no one
At my side ♪
359
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♪ And time washes clean ♪
360
00:19:34,518 --> 00:19:37,590
♪ Love's wounds unseen ♪
361
00:19:40,489 --> 00:19:44,217
♪ That's what someone
Told me ♪
362
00:19:44,252 --> 00:19:48,463
♪ But I don't know
What it means ♪
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♪ 'Cause I've ♪
364
00:19:51,742 --> 00:19:55,504
♪ Done everything I know ♪
365
00:19:55,539 --> 00:19:59,232
♪ To try to make you mine ♪
366
00:19:59,922 --> 00:20:04,755
♪ And I think it's gonna
Hurt me ♪
367
00:20:05,376 --> 00:20:10,001
♪ For a long, long time ♪
368
00:20:10,554 --> 00:20:15,766
♪ But I've done
Everything I know ♪
369
00:20:16,491 --> 00:20:20,909
♪ To try to make you mine ♪
370
00:20:21,530 --> 00:20:25,810
♪ Think I'm gonna
Love you ♪
371
00:20:26,501 --> 00:20:31,540
♪ For a long, long time ♪
372
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I met her in the Troubadour.
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She had this hit
called Long, Long Time.
374
00:20:39,514 --> 00:20:41,032
Apparently she knew
who I was
375
00:20:41,067 --> 00:20:43,897
based on a record I'd made
with Ricky Nelson.
376
00:20:46,935 --> 00:20:50,628
She said I like that band you
put together for Rick Nelson.
377
00:20:50,663 --> 00:20:52,389
Could you do that for me?
378
00:20:52,734 --> 00:20:55,323
♪ She's got everything
She needs ♪
379
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♪ She's an artist ♪
380
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♪ She don't look back ♪
381
00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,951
Herby Cohen was the
manager when I met her.
382
00:21:02,985 --> 00:21:04,918
He gave me these tickets
to Hawaii
383
00:21:04,953 --> 00:21:07,369
for the Capitol Records
convention.
384
00:21:07,404 --> 00:21:09,751
Linda and I show up
at San Francisco Airport
385
00:21:09,785 --> 00:21:13,755
to fly to Honolulu and lo
and behold there was the FBI
386
00:21:13,789 --> 00:21:16,827
to arrest us for receiving
stolen property.
387
00:21:16,861 --> 00:21:19,830
Turns out Herby had bought
the tickets in the lobby
388
00:21:19,864 --> 00:21:21,935
of the building from some guy
389
00:21:21,970 --> 00:21:24,835
probably for 25 cents
on the dollar
390
00:21:24,869 --> 00:21:26,906
and they were hotter
than a two-dollar pistol.
391
00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:30,427
So we spent the day in jail.
392
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[Silver Threads And Golden
Needles by Ronstadt]
393
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She fired Herbie
and asked me to fill in.
394
00:21:35,811 --> 00:21:40,091
♪ I don't want
Your lonely mansion ♪
395
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RONSTADT: I was walking through
the Troubadour one night
396
00:21:41,955 --> 00:21:43,785
on my way to the bathroom.
397
00:21:45,373 --> 00:21:48,376
This band Shiloh got up
and did my exact version
398
00:21:48,410 --> 00:21:50,136
of Silver Threads
and Golden Needles.
399
00:21:50,170 --> 00:21:53,657
♪ Silver Threads
And Golden Needles ♪
400
00:21:53,691 --> 00:21:54,865
I just went, "What?"
401
00:21:54,899 --> 00:21:56,970
Does, you know, that solo,
I thought, God!
402
00:21:57,005 --> 00:21:59,007
I was appalled that anyone
would actually sit down
403
00:21:59,041 --> 00:22:02,942
with one of my records
and learn the solo off it
404
00:22:02,976 --> 00:22:05,185
like a Led Zeppelin record.
405
00:22:05,220 --> 00:22:07,843
And I heard the drummer and I
thought he was really good.
406
00:22:07,878 --> 00:22:10,398
HILBURN: The drummer was
a guy named Don Henley.
407
00:22:10,777 --> 00:22:14,056
HENLEY: Linda's first solo album
came out in '69
408
00:22:14,091 --> 00:22:17,577
and I moved to LA
in June of 1970.
409
00:22:18,095 --> 00:22:20,718
So my timing was pretty good.
410
00:22:20,994 --> 00:22:23,065
HILBURN: She'd had a bunch
of dates back East
411
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:25,413
and we needed to put
the band together quickly.
412
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So I hired him for $250 a week.
413
00:22:28,381 --> 00:22:29,348
[Rescue me
by Linda Ronstadt]
414
00:22:35,561 --> 00:22:37,390
♪ Rescue me ♪
415
00:22:37,425 --> 00:22:39,012
♪ I want you in my arms ♪
416
00:22:39,047 --> 00:22:40,911
♪ Rescue me ♪
417
00:22:40,945 --> 00:22:42,775
♪ I need your tender charm ♪
418
00:22:42,809 --> 00:22:44,639
♪ 'Cause I'm lonely ♪
419
00:22:44,673 --> 00:22:46,779
HENLEY: I knew who she was
because I had her album.
420
00:22:47,193 --> 00:22:49,644
I listened to that
album a hundred times.
421
00:22:51,128 --> 00:22:54,649
She could seem vulnerable
and very feminine
422
00:22:54,683 --> 00:22:58,722
but when she opened her mouth to
sing everything got different.
423
00:22:58,756 --> 00:23:01,000
It was just incredible.
424
00:23:02,001 --> 00:23:05,211
You knew that there was
a very solid core
425
00:23:05,245 --> 00:23:07,213
and a very determined woman.
426
00:23:17,948 --> 00:23:19,881
SOUTHER: Just saw her walking
past me in the Troubadour
427
00:23:19,915 --> 00:23:20,985
and she looked so cute.
428
00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:22,470
I just grabbed her by the hand
429
00:23:22,504 --> 00:23:24,403
and I said I think you should
cook me dinner.
430
00:23:25,231 --> 00:23:27,716
And she said okay and
gave me her phone number.
431
00:23:28,061 --> 00:23:30,236
So I called her a couple days
432
00:23:30,270 --> 00:23:31,927
and I said, "Well, you gonna
cook me dinner?"
433
00:23:31,962 --> 00:23:33,860
She goes, "Sure,
come on over." I came on over
434
00:23:33,895 --> 00:23:36,553
and she made me a peanut
butter and jelly sandwich.
435
00:23:37,485 --> 00:23:39,521
And I fell in love with her.
436
00:23:39,556 --> 00:23:41,558
Took her home and the next day
I said,
437
00:23:41,592 --> 00:23:42,904
"Listen, let's go
get your stuff.
438
00:23:42,938 --> 00:23:44,250
You can live here with me."
439
00:23:44,284 --> 00:23:47,598
♪ I got a feeling called
The blues, oh Lord ♪
440
00:23:47,633 --> 00:23:50,256
♪ Since my baby
Said goodbye ♪
441
00:23:50,290 --> 00:23:52,914
GEFFEN: John David Souther
and Linda Ronstadt.
442
00:23:52,948 --> 00:23:54,156
They were a hot couple.
443
00:23:54,191 --> 00:23:57,090
♪ All I do is sit and cry
Oh Lord ♪
444
00:23:57,125 --> 00:24:00,231
♪ That last long day
he said goodbye ♪
445
00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:03,614
JD had had a musical duo
with a guy named Glenn Frey.
446
00:24:06,755 --> 00:24:09,862
SOUTHER: He was by best friend
and first songwriting partner.
447
00:24:11,657 --> 00:24:14,245
We really did nothing but just
listen to music and play guitars
448
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,594
and try to write songs and
then go to the Troubadour.
449
00:24:19,285 --> 00:24:21,667
RONSTADT: Glenn Frey played
pretty good guitar.
450
00:24:21,977 --> 00:24:23,496
So I went and talked to Glenn
and said,
451
00:24:23,531 --> 00:24:25,256
"Do you want to do this
tour with me?"
452
00:24:25,291 --> 00:24:27,120
He said it would be really cool.
453
00:24:27,155 --> 00:24:29,537
He'd never been
on the road before.
454
00:24:30,572 --> 00:24:33,195
HENLEY: Glenn Frey and I shared
the $12 hotel room
455
00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:35,094
with two twin beds in it.
456
00:24:35,335 --> 00:24:37,027
It was a very modest tour.
457
00:24:37,061 --> 00:24:39,029
I mean, I remember
being in station wagons.
458
00:24:41,790 --> 00:24:44,172
RONSTADT: Rooming together, Don
and Glenn each discovered
459
00:24:44,206 --> 00:24:46,761
that the other was a good singer
and songwriter.
460
00:24:48,176 --> 00:24:51,938
HILBURN:
And that's when they decided to
get together and form a band.
461
00:24:52,318 --> 00:24:54,596
That band became the Eagles.
462
00:24:57,323 --> 00:24:58,807
They wished us well.
463
00:24:58,842 --> 00:25:02,190
John was very supportive,
Linda was supportive
464
00:25:02,224 --> 00:25:04,848
and they basically said
just go for it.
465
00:25:04,882 --> 00:25:07,782
[Desperado
by The Eagles]
466
00:25:07,816 --> 00:25:09,991
We didn't have much
success with Desperado.
467
00:25:10,025 --> 00:25:13,063
The record company didn't
know what to do with it.
468
00:25:13,097 --> 00:25:15,514
And then Linda
made it into a classic.
469
00:25:16,066 --> 00:25:19,552
♪ Desperado ♪
470
00:25:20,104 --> 00:25:24,971
♪ Why don't you come
To your senses ♪
471
00:25:25,006 --> 00:25:29,320
♪ Come down
From your fences ♪
472
00:25:29,355 --> 00:25:33,117
♪ And open the gate ♪
473
00:25:33,152 --> 00:25:35,534
♪ It may be raining ♪
474
00:25:36,742 --> 00:25:40,884
♪ But there's a rainbow
Above you ♪
475
00:25:41,263 --> 00:25:45,682
♪ You better let somebody
Love you ♪
476
00:25:46,027 --> 00:25:49,237
♪ [Let somebody love you] ♪
477
00:25:49,962 --> 00:25:55,001
♪ Let somebody love you ♪
478
00:25:56,416 --> 00:26:01,076
♪ Before it is too ♪
479
00:26:02,871 --> 00:26:06,185
♪ Late ♪
480
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:24,652
[Heart of Gold
by Neil Young]
481
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,040
HILBURN: I knew the Neil Young
tour was coming
482
00:26:34,075 --> 00:26:36,215
and I thought this'll be
perfect for Linda
483
00:26:36,249 --> 00:26:40,115
because she had sung backup on
his big hit "Heart of Gold."
484
00:26:40,150 --> 00:26:43,084
So I called Neil's manager
and I said,
485
00:26:43,118 --> 00:26:45,776
"Listen, Linda's the right
opening act for this.
486
00:26:45,811 --> 00:26:47,122
You've got to help me out."
487
00:26:47,157 --> 00:26:49,366
And they said, "Well,
Neil's gonna go out alone."
488
00:26:50,298 --> 00:26:52,783
♪ I want to live ♪
489
00:26:53,094 --> 00:26:55,648
♪ I want to give ♪
490
00:26:55,683 --> 00:26:59,031
HILBURN:
Lo and behold like a week
later he called me and he said,
491
00:26:59,065 --> 00:27:01,067
"Neil's done a few dates
in Canada
492
00:27:01,102 --> 00:27:03,035
and it's getting him too tired.
493
00:27:03,069 --> 00:27:05,347
He now wants an
opening act and you're it.
494
00:27:05,382 --> 00:27:07,867
♪ I never give... ♪
495
00:27:09,006 --> 00:27:11,008
Linda was quite reluctant
at the time.
496
00:27:11,043 --> 00:27:13,977
She was so worried about the
idea of playing a huge
497
00:27:14,011 --> 00:27:17,118
hockey arena tour at that
point in her career.
498
00:27:17,152 --> 00:27:20,362
But we persuaded her that
this would be a good thing.
499
00:27:23,814 --> 00:27:25,091
RONSTADT: Thank you!
500
00:27:25,954 --> 00:27:29,268
HILBURN:
You would occasionally get
somebody: "We want Neil!"
501
00:27:29,302 --> 00:27:33,444
But by the time the tour got
going, she was holding her own.
502
00:27:33,790 --> 00:27:36,965
♪ I've been cheated ♪
503
00:27:37,379 --> 00:27:40,693
♪ Been mistreated ♪
504
00:27:41,142 --> 00:27:46,319
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
505
00:27:48,494 --> 00:27:51,670
♪ I've been put down ♪
506
00:27:52,153 --> 00:27:55,294
♪ I've been pushed 'round ♪
507
00:27:55,881 --> 00:28:00,989
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
508
00:28:03,336 --> 00:28:06,167
♪ When I find a new man ♪
509
00:28:06,926 --> 00:28:09,446
♪ That I want for mine ♪
510
00:28:10,447 --> 00:28:13,933
♪ Always breaks my heart
In two ♪
511
00:28:13,968 --> 00:28:18,938
♪ It happens every time ♪
512
00:28:20,043 --> 00:28:21,872
♪ I've been... ♪
513
00:28:21,907 --> 00:28:25,151
CAMERON CROWE: Here's Linda
who I'd never seen live before,
514
00:28:25,186 --> 00:28:28,741
big stage, sold out, huge place.
515
00:28:28,948 --> 00:28:33,194
She comes out there and starts
singing and that voice filled
516
00:28:33,228 --> 00:28:36,784
this arena where I had seen
concerts for a long time.
517
00:28:36,818 --> 00:28:39,441
Nobody filled this arena with
a voice like Linda Ronstadt.
518
00:28:39,476 --> 00:28:41,789
And she just killed it.
519
00:28:41,823 --> 00:28:46,138
She slaughtered this crowd
who didn't come to see her
520
00:28:46,172 --> 00:28:48,243
but they sure left
knowing who she was.
521
00:28:50,901 --> 00:28:53,766
HILBURN:
We did 78 dates in 90 days.
522
00:28:54,042 --> 00:28:57,459
We played before 18,000 to
20,000 people every night.
523
00:29:01,015 --> 00:29:03,845
RONSTADT:
We got to Houston and there
was this new girl singer.
524
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,157
Her name's Emmylou.
525
00:29:06,572 --> 00:29:10,093
EMMYLOU HARRIS:
It was 1973 during the
one tour I did with Gram.
526
00:29:10,576 --> 00:29:14,476
♪ Call happy calling
Children are calling ♪
527
00:29:14,511 --> 00:29:18,170
♪ In line to ride
On the merry-go-round ♪
528
00:29:18,204 --> 00:29:19,965
RONSTADT: Emmy started singing
and three notes
529
00:29:19,999 --> 00:29:21,932
the entire place was dead quiet.
530
00:29:21,967 --> 00:29:24,417
It was like they had started
mass or something.
531
00:29:25,487 --> 00:29:27,558
And she was beautiful,
this girl with the long hair
532
00:29:27,593 --> 00:29:29,353
and big brown eyes
and I thought
533
00:29:29,388 --> 00:29:31,977
she's doing exactly
what I'm doing.
534
00:29:32,011 --> 00:29:33,426
She's doing it better.
535
00:29:33,461 --> 00:29:35,981
♪ Do not worry
How it's done... ♪
536
00:29:36,015 --> 00:29:38,466
And for a minute I thought
well I can get jealous
537
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:40,882
and then I won't be able
to enjoy her singing.
538
00:29:41,193 --> 00:29:43,195
Or I can just become
a slobbering, drooling fan
539
00:29:43,229 --> 00:29:45,266
like the rest of the people
in the club.
540
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,993
And hope that maybe I
could get her to sing with me.
541
00:29:48,027 --> 00:29:51,237
So I chose the latter as one of
the best decisions I ever made.
542
00:29:51,272 --> 00:29:54,965
And Emmy and I became immediate
music and social friends.
543
00:29:57,416 --> 00:30:02,317
HARRIS: Linda had a lot to do
with lifting me up
544
00:30:02,352 --> 00:30:04,906
at a very, very low
time in my life.
545
00:30:06,459 --> 00:30:09,946
I had been kind of my way
working with Gram Parsons.
546
00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:12,224
I thought I'd found my voice,
547
00:30:12,258 --> 00:30:15,123
I had found something I love
to do singing with him.
548
00:30:15,158 --> 00:30:17,229
♪ Love hurts ♪
549
00:30:18,437 --> 00:30:21,129
♪ Love scars ♪
550
00:30:22,234 --> 00:30:24,063
On the road to getting
himself straight
551
00:30:24,098 --> 00:30:27,653
he was drinking a lot less,
he was loving the work,
552
00:30:27,687 --> 00:30:31,174
we loved singing together, we
had a record we'd just made,
553
00:30:31,208 --> 00:30:35,454
and apparently someone showed up
with heroin
554
00:30:35,488 --> 00:30:40,148
which he hadn't done
in a while and it killed him.
555
00:30:41,046 --> 00:30:44,359
It was devastating
to lose him like that.
556
00:30:45,947 --> 00:30:50,055
It was Linda who stepped up
as a friend
557
00:30:50,089 --> 00:30:52,160
and we had just met each other.
558
00:30:52,195 --> 00:30:56,544
She brought me out to LA,
had me stay at her house
559
00:30:56,578 --> 00:30:58,718
and she talked about me
to everybody.
560
00:30:58,753 --> 00:31:02,999
Said how great I was and
genuinely loved my singing.
561
00:31:03,033 --> 00:31:07,624
Genuinely made me feel like
I had something to offer
562
00:31:07,658 --> 00:31:11,386
at a very low time in my life.
563
00:31:12,387 --> 00:31:14,527
♪ Love hurts ♪
564
00:31:16,633 --> 00:31:18,669
♪ Save me ♪
565
00:31:19,463 --> 00:31:22,294
♪ Free me ♪
566
00:31:22,328 --> 00:31:25,297
♪ From love ♪
567
00:31:25,642 --> 00:31:27,920
♪ This time ♪
568
00:31:30,026 --> 00:31:34,202
♪ Well the train's gone ♪
569
00:31:34,582 --> 00:31:37,757
♪ Down the track ♪
570
00:31:37,792 --> 00:31:43,625
♪ and I'm
I'm left behind ♪
571
00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:49,735
KARLA BONOFF: Linda was always
very tight with her girlfriends.
572
00:31:49,769 --> 00:31:52,186
They sang together, they
shared music together, she was
573
00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:54,119
supportive of me.
574
00:31:54,395 --> 00:31:59,124
I was writing songs and hoping
to make my own record
575
00:31:59,158 --> 00:32:02,575
but of course Linda was
really coming into her own
576
00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:05,233
and starting to be
really successful.
577
00:32:07,201 --> 00:32:09,410
I think a songwriter
doing their songs is different
578
00:32:09,444 --> 00:32:11,619
than a singer do their songs.
579
00:32:11,653 --> 00:32:14,346
Some people prefer the
songwriter doing them, some
580
00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:17,142
people prefer Linda doing them.
581
00:32:17,383 --> 00:32:18,764
But "Lose Again"
she definitely made
582
00:32:18,798 --> 00:32:20,662
into a bigger song.
583
00:32:22,388 --> 00:32:25,322
♪ But nothing can save me ♪
584
00:32:25,357 --> 00:32:27,428
♪ From this
b=Ball and chain ♪
585
00:32:27,462 --> 00:32:28,947
Because I couldn't
sing it like that.
586
00:32:28,981 --> 00:32:30,293
♪ I made up my mind ♪
587
00:32:31,639 --> 00:32:36,161
♪ I would leave today ♪
588
00:32:37,058 --> 00:32:40,579
I mean Linda came out and turned
it into this power ballad.
589
00:32:41,028 --> 00:32:43,306
♪ I know it's insane ♪
590
00:32:43,547 --> 00:32:45,756
♪ Because I love you ♪
591
00:32:45,791 --> 00:32:50,175
♪ And lose again ♪
592
00:32:50,658 --> 00:32:54,075
♪ Oh, I love you ♪
593
00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:59,115
♪ And lose again ♪
594
00:33:06,639 --> 00:33:09,780
BONOFF: Back then there wasn't
competition with women.
595
00:33:09,815 --> 00:33:11,506
So I think, you know, women,
596
00:33:11,541 --> 00:33:13,198
there weren't that
many of us either.
597
00:33:13,232 --> 00:33:16,442
So I think there was a certain
amount of banding together
598
00:33:16,477 --> 00:33:19,066
to sort of share
our woman part of it.
599
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:20,999
This is a song
off our new album.
600
00:33:22,517 --> 00:33:25,244
It's about a real special
place called home.
601
00:33:26,383 --> 00:33:28,316
That's a Karla Bonoff song.
602
00:33:29,248 --> 00:33:32,458
BONOFF:
I had made a demo of Home
and we sent it off to Bonnie,
603
00:33:32,493 --> 00:33:35,737
just a complete long shot,
and she decided to record it.
604
00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:38,464
♪ Traveling at night ♪
605
00:33:39,362 --> 00:33:41,847
♪ The headlights
Were bright ♪
606
00:33:41,881 --> 00:33:45,816
♪ And soon the sun came
through the trees ♪
607
00:33:47,853 --> 00:33:50,787
♪ Around the next bend ♪
608
00:33:50,821 --> 00:33:53,824
♪ The flowers will send ♪
609
00:33:53,859 --> 00:33:58,346
♪ The sweet smell of home
In the breeze ♪
610
00:33:58,381 --> 00:34:01,349
RAITT: Linda and I are like
sisters, around the same age
611
00:34:01,384 --> 00:34:03,351
and we were coming up
and had the same mutual
612
00:34:03,386 --> 00:34:05,250
other musician friends
and band members
613
00:34:05,284 --> 00:34:08,805
and, you know,
it was a community of artists,
614
00:34:08,839 --> 00:34:12,498
it wasn't sexually divided
between just the women and men.
615
00:34:12,533 --> 00:34:14,328
We weren't thinking
in terms of that.
616
00:34:15,398 --> 00:34:18,608
CROWE: Linda and Bonnie Raitt
were two of the first women
617
00:34:18,642 --> 00:34:21,680
that I was able to see
as a young journalist
618
00:34:21,714 --> 00:34:24,683
and study the way they operated
in this community.
619
00:34:25,235 --> 00:34:27,513
We're going to move into this
world where we're running bands
620
00:34:27,548 --> 00:34:30,827
with guys in them but we can
also look after each other.
621
00:34:31,862 --> 00:34:35,176
RAITT: I said if I can have it
on my terms and you understand
622
00:34:35,211 --> 00:34:39,180
I'm not going to be told how to
dress or what music to make.
623
00:34:39,215 --> 00:34:40,457
Great!
624
00:34:40,492 --> 00:34:43,357
We were all throwing away all
those conventions, you know.
625
00:34:45,324 --> 00:34:48,189
RONSTADT:
The rock and roll culture is so
male dominated and it also seems
626
00:34:48,224 --> 00:34:51,606
to be dominated by sort of
hostility against women.
627
00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:53,608
That this sort of...
628
00:34:55,369 --> 00:35:00,512
sort of sexual identity that is
sort of used as a weapon
629
00:35:00,546 --> 00:35:02,686
against the populace
and women in particular
630
00:35:02,721 --> 00:35:04,654
and then everyone
identifies with it.
631
00:35:04,895 --> 00:35:07,760
And it's sort of sad to me
because what happens is that...
632
00:35:09,555 --> 00:35:14,181
is that rock and roll stars
end up isolating themselves
633
00:35:14,215 --> 00:35:16,873
more and more and more, thereby
increasing their own feelings of
634
00:35:16,907 --> 00:35:20,497
alienation and anxiety and they
wonder why they're so miserable.
635
00:35:20,532 --> 00:35:24,260
That's really when they turn to
drugs and destroy themselves.
636
00:35:24,294 --> 00:35:26,779
It's just very silly.
It just seems very silly.
637
00:35:26,814 --> 00:35:33,269
They lose the ability to focus
on themselves as a person
638
00:35:33,303 --> 00:35:37,652
rather than as an image and
that's very dangerous I think.
639
00:35:37,687 --> 00:35:40,483
And there are always a lot
of people around them,
640
00:35:40,517 --> 00:35:45,246
managers and scene makers,
you know, groupies and whatever,
641
00:35:45,281 --> 00:35:48,215
that are willing to indulge
them in anything they want.
642
00:35:48,249 --> 00:35:51,873
It weakens them,
it weakens them as people
643
00:35:51,908 --> 00:35:54,152
and it eventually weakens
them as musicians.
644
00:35:54,186 --> 00:35:55,670
[Willin'
by Linda Ronstadt]
645
00:35:57,569 --> 00:35:59,812
♪ I been warped
By the rain ♪
646
00:35:59,847 --> 00:36:01,469
♪ Driven by the snow ♪
647
00:36:01,504 --> 00:36:03,471
♪ I'm drunk and dirty ♪
648
00:36:03,506 --> 00:36:04,783
♪ Don't you know ♪
649
00:36:04,817 --> 00:36:06,612
♪ But I'm still ♪
650
00:36:08,545 --> 00:36:10,237
♪ Willin' ♪
651
00:36:12,308 --> 00:36:15,414
♪ Out on the road
Late last night ♪
652
00:36:15,449 --> 00:36:19,487
♪ I'd see my pretty Alice
in every headlight ♪
653
00:36:19,522 --> 00:36:21,282
♪ Alice ♪
654
00:36:21,869 --> 00:36:24,354
♪ Dallas Alice ♪
655
00:36:24,975 --> 00:36:28,945
♪ And I've been from Tucson
to Tucumcari ♪
656
00:36:29,704 --> 00:36:32,811
♪ Tehachapi to Tonopah ♪
657
00:36:32,845 --> 00:36:37,505
♪ Driven every kind of rig
that's ever been made ♪
658
00:36:37,850 --> 00:36:40,646
PETER ASHER: I was in New York
and somebody said
659
00:36:40,681 --> 00:36:42,821
you have to go see this girl,
she's amazing.
660
00:36:42,855 --> 00:36:45,237
She's one of the best singers
you'll ever hear,
661
00:36:45,272 --> 00:36:46,652
she's brilliant.
662
00:36:47,343 --> 00:36:50,277
She's incredibly great looking,
she sings barefoot
663
00:36:50,311 --> 00:36:53,728
and will knock you out in every
respect and she did.
664
00:36:54,384 --> 00:37:00,459
♪ Whites and wine ♪
665
00:37:01,495 --> 00:37:04,498
♪ And you show me a sign ♪
666
00:37:05,015 --> 00:37:06,741
♪ And I'll be willin' ♪
667
00:37:06,776 --> 00:37:09,296
I was running
the Beatles record label Apple.
668
00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:11,850
When Apple started to fall apart
and the Beatles were breaking up
669
00:37:11,884 --> 00:37:14,956
and all of that
I went to America
670
00:37:14,991 --> 00:37:16,855
and there I was being a manager.
671
00:37:18,097 --> 00:37:20,824
HILBURN: I wanted to go back
to work as a record producer
672
00:37:20,859 --> 00:37:23,275
so I suggested Linda go
and meet with Peter
673
00:37:23,310 --> 00:37:26,036
which we did and he agreed
to manage her.
674
00:37:27,866 --> 00:37:29,316
BROWNE:
There was a high bar there.
675
00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:30,869
Peter Asher had hung
around with the Beatles.
676
00:37:30,903 --> 00:37:34,286
He expected to make records
that are huge successes
677
00:37:34,321 --> 00:37:36,530
and he was poised to do that
with Linda
678
00:37:36,564 --> 00:37:38,877
and Geffen was ready to be
their record company
679
00:37:38,911 --> 00:37:40,637
that would be there.
680
00:37:43,606 --> 00:37:46,091
DAVID GEFFEN:
I started Asylum Records
and signed Jackson Browne
681
00:37:46,125 --> 00:37:49,922
and then signing other artists
and it turned into what it did.
682
00:37:53,098 --> 00:37:55,031
And I knew when I saw Linda
and the Stone Poneys
683
00:37:55,065 --> 00:37:56,998
that she was gonna make it
and she was gonna make it
684
00:37:57,033 --> 00:38:00,830
as a solo artist and I knew she
was going to be a big star.
685
00:38:01,693 --> 00:38:03,281
She didn't think so.
686
00:38:04,074 --> 00:38:06,525
She had very little
confidence in those days.
687
00:38:08,769 --> 00:38:10,633
Linda was feeling like
she wasn't good enough
688
00:38:10,667 --> 00:38:12,359
to be on Asylum Records.
689
00:38:13,877 --> 00:38:16,777
I said to her that
that was crazy.
690
00:38:18,157 --> 00:38:20,539
RONSTADT: I'm never really
satisfied with what I do.
691
00:38:20,919 --> 00:38:22,955
And lots of times I hear
that I did something wrong
692
00:38:22,990 --> 00:38:25,510
and it bothers me,
it can ruin my day really.
693
00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:28,996
ASHER: Linda never thought she
was as good as she was
694
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:31,723
and that is an interesting
paradox
695
00:38:31,757 --> 00:38:33,932
because she's confident
about her ideas
696
00:38:33,966 --> 00:38:36,762
but not about herself
and not about her singing.
697
00:38:38,557 --> 00:38:41,802
My involvement as a producer
with Linda came when she was
698
00:38:41,836 --> 00:38:45,461
having trouble finishing the
album that became Don't Cry Now.
699
00:38:46,013 --> 00:38:49,016
And that's when we decided that
the next album I would produce
700
00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:50,500
was Heart Like a Wheel.
701
00:38:50,535 --> 00:38:55,505
♪ Some say a heart
Is just like a wheel ♪
702
00:38:55,540 --> 00:38:57,645
♪ When you bend it ♪
703
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,164
♪ You can't mend it ♪
704
00:38:59,198 --> 00:39:02,719
RONSTADT:
The McGarrigle Sisters, who were
these two Canadian sisters,
705
00:39:02,754 --> 00:39:04,031
they were in an odd category.
706
00:39:04,065 --> 00:39:06,999
They didn't fit in pop music,
they didn't fit in folk music,
707
00:39:07,034 --> 00:39:09,968
they didn't fit anywhere
except they fit in my heart.
708
00:39:10,002 --> 00:39:11,383
We just heard
Heart Like A Wheel,
709
00:39:11,418 --> 00:39:13,040
then I went I have to sing it.
710
00:39:14,110 --> 00:39:17,665
♪ When harm is done ♪
711
00:39:17,872 --> 00:39:21,117
♪ No love can be won ♪
712
00:39:21,151 --> 00:39:24,672
♪ I know it happens ♪
713
00:39:24,707 --> 00:39:27,813
♪ Frequently ♪
714
00:39:29,021 --> 00:39:31,058
♪ But I can't... ♪
715
00:39:31,092 --> 00:39:35,545
PARTON: Linda has the ability
to hear a song and claim it.
716
00:39:35,752 --> 00:39:37,754
You claim it as your own
as a singer.
717
00:39:37,789 --> 00:39:40,723
If you love it like that
you get inside it.
718
00:39:40,757 --> 00:39:42,069
You become it.
719
00:39:42,483 --> 00:39:49,663
♪ But my love for you
Is like a sinking ship ♪
720
00:39:50,111 --> 00:39:58,119
♪ And my heart is on that ship
out in mid-ocean ♪
721
00:40:01,916 --> 00:40:03,780
ASHER: Heart Like a Wheel,
she discovered that song,
722
00:40:03,815 --> 00:40:05,161
brought it to me and I loved it.
723
00:40:05,195 --> 00:40:07,750
I thought it was beautiful
but I was also thinking
724
00:40:07,784 --> 00:40:09,476
in terms of we should
make some hits.
725
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:11,029
♪ Feelin' better ♪
726
00:40:11,063 --> 00:40:13,480
♪ Now that we're through ♪
727
00:40:13,514 --> 00:40:15,654
♪ Feelin' better ♪
728
00:40:15,689 --> 00:40:17,518
♪ 'Cause I'm over you ♪
729
00:40:17,553 --> 00:40:19,209
RONSTADT: I'm a ballad singer,
I like to sing ballads best
730
00:40:19,244 --> 00:40:22,040
but we needed some up-tempo
songs for the record
731
00:40:22,074 --> 00:40:23,904
and as an afterthought
I had this song
732
00:40:23,938 --> 00:40:26,562
that we'd used
to close the show.
733
00:40:26,596 --> 00:40:28,218
♪ You're no good
You're no good ♪
734
00:40:28,253 --> 00:40:32,050
♪ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ♪
735
00:40:32,878 --> 00:40:34,846
♪ I'm gonna say it again ♪
736
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,020
♪ You're no good
You're no good ♪
737
00:40:37,055 --> 00:40:41,128
♪ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ♪
738
00:40:41,749 --> 00:40:43,993
ASHER:
She knew and loved the song,
I knew and loved the song,
739
00:40:44,027 --> 00:40:47,134
and we decided to do
a version of that song.
740
00:40:49,861 --> 00:40:54,072
I stayed up all night assembling
this very complicated,
741
00:40:54,106 --> 00:40:57,144
intricate layered guitar piece.
742
00:40:57,662 --> 00:41:00,975
We worked very long into
like the next afternoon.
743
00:41:01,528 --> 00:41:03,909
And that's when Linda turned up
and didn't like it.
744
00:41:05,601 --> 00:41:08,155
She said, "Oh, I don't like it.
It sounds like the Beatles,"
745
00:41:08,189 --> 00:41:09,674
which it did sound
like the Beatles
746
00:41:09,708 --> 00:41:11,296
but in the end she came around
and said,
747
00:41:11,330 --> 00:41:13,643
"You know what, I was wrong.
It's great."
748
00:41:14,575 --> 00:41:18,096
[You're No Good
by Linda Ronstadt]
749
00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:30,211
♪ I'm tellin' you now baby
And I'm going my way ♪
750
00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:35,734
♪ Forget about you, baby
'Cause I'm leaving to stay ♪
751
00:41:35,769 --> 00:41:37,218
RONSTADT: Every song
that I sing has a face
752
00:41:37,253 --> 00:41:39,117
that I sing it to, you know.
753
00:41:39,151 --> 00:41:43,742
And so when something
happens to me,
754
00:41:43,777 --> 00:41:45,606
it's really funny,
I know so many songs.
755
00:41:45,641 --> 00:41:47,125
When something happens to me
756
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:48,920
the song will occur
at the same time.
757
00:41:48,954 --> 00:41:50,646
I'll think oh, this song
or that song, you know.
758
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,924
And if it's a song I can sing
then I'll have to sing it,
759
00:41:52,958 --> 00:41:55,892
I'll just burn to sing it.
I can't not sing it.
760
00:41:55,927 --> 00:41:59,862
♪ I passed you on the street ♪
761
00:42:00,241 --> 00:42:04,349
♪ And my heart
Fell at your feet ♪
762
00:42:04,383 --> 00:42:06,696
♪ I can't help it ♪
763
00:42:06,731 --> 00:42:11,321
♪ If I'm still
In love with you ♪
764
00:42:12,219 --> 00:42:15,187
He would make the assumption
that I was choosing the songs
765
00:42:15,222 --> 00:42:17,673
that we would do on these
records or that I was working
766
00:42:17,707 --> 00:42:20,020
out the arrangements
or this, that, and the other.
767
00:42:20,054 --> 00:42:21,849
And I would have to keep
explaining that
768
00:42:21,884 --> 00:42:24,576
it was Linda and me
in that order.
769
00:42:25,232 --> 00:42:28,925
♪ Still in love with you ♪
770
00:42:30,133 --> 00:42:32,722
RONSTADT: My sister used to play
all these Hank Williams records.
771
00:42:32,757 --> 00:42:35,173
So I thought I can do that.
772
00:42:35,207 --> 00:42:38,314
♪ Came slowly stealing ♪
773
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,905
♪ As I brushed your arm ♪
774
00:42:42,939 --> 00:42:46,771
♪ And stood
So close to you... ♪
775
00:42:46,805 --> 00:42:48,842
SOUTHER: Linda knew a good song
776
00:42:48,876 --> 00:42:50,637
and she knew why it was good
and better than that
777
00:42:50,671 --> 00:42:52,708
she knew how to sing it
better than you can sing.
778
00:42:52,742 --> 00:42:57,195
When you become that sharp
of a song stylist,
779
00:42:57,229 --> 00:43:00,163
you get authorship
in a certain way.
780
00:43:00,198 --> 00:43:02,752
I consider her a real author.
781
00:43:02,787 --> 00:43:06,307
She didn't write songs
but she made songs happen
782
00:43:06,342 --> 00:43:07,688
the way she wanted to hear them.
783
00:43:07,723 --> 00:43:13,038
♪ I can't help it if
I'm still in love with you ♪
784
00:43:13,660 --> 00:43:15,731
RONSTADT: I Can't Help it
if I'm Still in Love With You
785
00:43:15,765 --> 00:43:17,629
was a hit on the country charts.
786
00:43:18,078 --> 00:43:21,391
You're No Good was a hit on both
the R&B chart and the pop chart.
787
00:43:22,254 --> 00:43:25,154
So I became the first artist to
have a hit on all three charts
788
00:43:25,188 --> 00:43:26,776
at the same time.
789
00:43:31,229 --> 00:43:34,888
CROWE: Heart Like A Wheel was
a huge turning point for her.
790
00:43:35,751 --> 00:43:40,790
The avalanche of success
was hitting everywhere.
791
00:43:41,032 --> 00:43:43,448
She was at the forefront
of a kind of pop stardom
792
00:43:43,482 --> 00:43:46,106
that hadn't happened
at that point
793
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:50,662
but people didn't notice the
difficulty of being a woman,
794
00:43:50,697 --> 00:43:54,390
trailblazing and having
the success of a Mick Jagger.
795
00:43:56,772 --> 00:44:00,361
[Tumbling Dice
by Linda Ronstadt]
796
00:44:03,226 --> 00:44:07,783
♪ People try to rape me
Always thinking I'm crazy ♪
797
00:44:07,817 --> 00:44:10,958
♪ Make me burn the candle
right down ♪
798
00:44:12,442 --> 00:44:14,272
♪ Baby ♪
799
00:44:14,824 --> 00:44:16,688
♪ I can't stay ♪
800
00:44:16,999 --> 00:44:20,174
♪ Don't need no jewels
In my crown ♪
801
00:44:21,003 --> 00:44:23,695
♪ 'Cause all you women ♪
802
00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:25,973
♪ Are low down gamblers ♪
803
00:44:26,008 --> 00:44:28,320
RONSTADT: Now I had gigs
like in big sporting arenas,
804
00:44:28,355 --> 00:44:30,426
you know,
stadiums and stuff like that.
805
00:44:30,944 --> 00:44:33,187
I knew the name of every
arena in the country.
806
00:44:33,222 --> 00:44:35,224
We got a gig tonight
at the Spectrum in Philly.
807
00:44:35,258 --> 00:44:36,259
We'll be at the Forum.
808
00:44:36,294 --> 00:44:37,467
Gig tomorrow night
at the Garden.
809
00:44:37,502 --> 00:44:38,468
That's where we played.
810
00:44:38,503 --> 00:44:40,091
She was selling them all out.
811
00:44:40,125 --> 00:44:41,817
♪ This low down bitchin' ♪
812
00:44:41,851 --> 00:44:44,302
♪ Got my poor feet a itchin' ♪
813
00:44:44,336 --> 00:44:47,236
♪ Can you see
The deuce is still wild ♪
814
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:48,755
GEFFEN: She was very good.
815
00:44:48,789 --> 00:44:49,859
Audience loved her.
816
00:44:49,894 --> 00:44:50,826
Records sold.
817
00:44:50,860 --> 00:44:54,001
She was on an uphill swing
all the time.
818
00:44:54,036 --> 00:44:55,969
♪ Got to roll me ♪
819
00:44:56,003 --> 00:45:00,387
♪ Call me the tumblin' dice ♪
820
00:45:03,252 --> 00:45:04,943
BROWNE:
When we did that tour together
821
00:45:04,978 --> 00:45:07,118
we'd take turns
closing and opening.
822
00:45:09,154 --> 00:45:12,295
You know. Try following
Linda Ronstadt every night.
823
00:45:12,330 --> 00:45:16,023
♪ Honey
Got no money ♪
824
00:45:16,575 --> 00:45:19,855
♪ Sixes and sevens and nines ♪
825
00:45:20,476 --> 00:45:24,273
♪ Hey now baby
I'm the rank outsider ♪
826
00:45:24,307 --> 00:45:26,344
RAITT: I went to go see her
at the Universal Amphitheater
827
00:45:26,378 --> 00:45:28,311
when she was wearing
her Boy Scouts outfit
828
00:45:28,346 --> 00:45:29,934
and was just rocking.
829
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,040
♪ Baby... ♪
830
00:45:33,075 --> 00:45:35,525
BONOFF: Linda was able to be
really feminine and sexy
831
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,323
in this world of men and somehow
hold onto herself and do that
832
00:45:40,358 --> 00:45:43,223
and use that in the
best possible way.
833
00:45:54,855 --> 00:45:58,238
WACHTEL:
There was a lot of dudes running
around the stages then.
834
00:45:58,272 --> 00:46:01,482
But we were on the road
with Linda and killing it.
835
00:46:01,517 --> 00:46:02,794
She was killing every night.
836
00:46:02,829 --> 00:46:05,279
♪ The tumbling dice ♪
837
00:46:06,418 --> 00:46:08,282
♪ You got to roll me ♪
838
00:46:08,317 --> 00:46:10,353
I know they liked my singing
and I know they were proud
839
00:46:10,388 --> 00:46:12,873
of what they were doing
but still in rock and roll
840
00:46:12,908 --> 00:46:15,393
the idea that you're actually
working for a chick singer,
841
00:46:15,427 --> 00:46:18,016
in their way they sort of
saw it as not as cool
842
00:46:18,051 --> 00:46:19,535
as if they were their own
rock and roll band
843
00:46:19,569 --> 00:46:21,261
and they were just
all the guys.
844
00:46:23,090 --> 00:46:26,542
♪ Baby, baby
Got to roll me ♪
845
00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:28,613
BONOFF: There weren't a lot
of women musicians
846
00:46:28,647 --> 00:46:31,236
so it was always a band of guys.
847
00:46:31,271 --> 00:46:34,481
There weren't women bass players
and women guitar players
848
00:46:34,515 --> 00:46:38,243
and sometimes some of these
guys were, they were tough.
849
00:46:40,383 --> 00:46:42,420
RONSTADT: I got a lot tougher
and more foul mouthed.
850
00:46:42,454 --> 00:46:43,421
I used to swear a lot.
851
00:46:43,455 --> 00:46:44,940
I mean, I used to talk
like a truck driver.
852
00:46:44,974 --> 00:46:47,597
When I think about the way
I used to talk, I'm shocked.
853
00:46:51,015 --> 00:46:53,465
Without having any other
girls along on the road,
854
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:56,399
just automatically
you start to imitate them.
855
00:46:59,644 --> 00:47:03,096
HARRIS: Linda was never
comfortable being on the road
856
00:47:03,130 --> 00:47:08,135
but obviously she did her job
and part of her loved it.
857
00:47:08,170 --> 00:47:09,309
Who wouldn't love it?
858
00:47:09,343 --> 00:47:12,105
But I think there was another
part of her that went,
859
00:47:12,139 --> 00:47:14,279
"You know,
this doesn't feel right."
860
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,455
RONSTADT: If I were going to
choose something to do
861
00:47:17,489 --> 00:47:19,422
it would not be to stand up
in front of a lot of people.
862
00:47:19,457 --> 00:47:21,183
But I love to sing,
I love to sing.
863
00:47:21,217 --> 00:47:23,461
I love music so at some point
you do whatever you have to do
864
00:47:23,495 --> 00:47:25,221
to do music.
865
00:47:26,671 --> 00:47:29,501
ASHER:
She would confess to me that if
she saw people in the front row
866
00:47:29,536 --> 00:47:33,126
and somebody leans over
and says something to the person
867
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,508
next to them, she thought they
were saying, you know,
868
00:47:36,543 --> 00:47:38,614
she's the worst singer
I've ever heard.
869
00:47:38,648 --> 00:47:40,098
I don't like this.
870
00:47:40,374 --> 00:47:42,100
She really believed that.
871
00:47:43,481 --> 00:47:46,173
WACHTEL: You get on the bus at
night, card game going on,
872
00:47:46,208 --> 00:47:48,175
everybody blasting music
873
00:47:48,210 --> 00:47:50,453
or everyone else drinking,
you know.
874
00:47:50,488 --> 00:47:52,317
A lot of drugs around.
875
00:47:53,042 --> 00:47:55,424
A lot of people would go on
stage completely hammered,
876
00:47:55,458 --> 00:47:57,219
completely fucking hammered.
877
00:47:57,253 --> 00:48:01,016
RAITT: Everybody was up at night
and when the gig ended
878
00:48:01,050 --> 00:48:03,018
you don't go home and have milk.
879
00:48:04,536 --> 00:48:08,057
It was kind of the nighttime
danger fun part about
880
00:48:08,092 --> 00:48:09,679
not having to go to bed.
881
00:48:09,714 --> 00:48:11,681
You know, Keith Richards
can do it, so can I.
882
00:48:11,716 --> 00:48:14,443
Linda's thing was diet pills.
883
00:48:16,134 --> 00:48:18,343
ASHER: She went through a phase
mostly taking speed
884
00:48:18,378 --> 00:48:21,036
and not eating and being
super skinny.
885
00:48:21,691 --> 00:48:25,040
RONSTADT:
It seemed like it was so hard
to be out there day after day
886
00:48:25,074 --> 00:48:27,042
and to try to get up the energy
to sort of do that
887
00:48:27,076 --> 00:48:30,114
when you were just wrung out
888
00:48:30,148 --> 00:48:33,151
from the sense of being
dislocated from place.
889
00:48:35,188 --> 00:48:37,707
I was with a bunch of people
that were basically earnest
890
00:48:37,742 --> 00:48:39,226
and basically honest
891
00:48:39,261 --> 00:48:42,057
and the kind of paranoia
that was introduced by drugs
892
00:48:42,091 --> 00:48:44,059
was so destructive in our
ability to communicate
893
00:48:44,093 --> 00:48:44,956
with each other.
894
00:48:44,991 --> 00:48:47,096
That really saddened me.
895
00:48:47,131 --> 00:48:50,410
And then at some point
we all just stopped.
896
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,931
[Blue Bayou
by Linda Ronstadt]
897
00:48:54,483 --> 00:48:56,416
♪ I feel so bad ♪
898
00:48:56,450 --> 00:48:59,729
♪ I got a worried mind ♪
899
00:49:00,661 --> 00:49:03,009
♪ I'm so lonesome ♪
900
00:49:03,043 --> 00:49:04,942
♪ All the time ♪
901
00:49:06,046 --> 00:49:10,430
♪ Since I left my
Baby behind ♪
902
00:49:10,464 --> 00:49:13,019
♪ On Blue Bayou ♪
903
00:49:17,057 --> 00:49:21,234
♪ Saving nickels
Saving dimes ♪
904
00:49:22,338 --> 00:49:26,273
♪ Workin' 'til
The sun don't shine ♪
905
00:49:27,447 --> 00:49:31,554
♪ Looking forward
To happier times ♪
906
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:34,281
♪ On Blue Bayou ♪
907
00:49:36,421 --> 00:49:39,355
♪ I'm going back someday ♪
908
00:49:39,804 --> 00:49:41,771
♪ Come what may ♪
909
00:49:41,806 --> 00:49:45,499
♪ To Blue Bayou ♪
910
00:49:46,776 --> 00:49:49,641
♪ Where the folks are fine ♪
911
00:49:49,676 --> 00:49:52,644
♪ And the world is mine ♪
912
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:55,716
♪ On Blue Bayou ♪
913
00:49:56,683 --> 00:50:00,135
CROWE:
When Rolling Stone was ready to
put Linda Ronstadt on the cover
914
00:50:00,169 --> 00:50:03,448
that was her absolute peak
up until then.
915
00:50:03,655 --> 00:50:07,280
♪ If I could only see ♪
916
00:50:07,314 --> 00:50:10,248
Generally it was a very
male-oriented
917
00:50:10,283 --> 00:50:12,664
denim-clad warrior cover.
918
00:50:14,459 --> 00:50:16,392
So here comes Linda Ronstadt
919
00:50:16,427 --> 00:50:20,396
and she and Annie Leibovitz
put together this photo session
920
00:50:20,431 --> 00:50:22,605
that was like no other
cover that had been
921
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,573
on Rolling Stone before.
922
00:50:26,609 --> 00:50:28,542
She was honest
923
00:50:31,407 --> 00:50:33,547
and opened her heart.
924
00:50:34,410 --> 00:50:38,483
She said, "This gets lonely and
I don't know where it ends up.
925
00:50:38,725 --> 00:50:40,554
It's an emotional journey
926
00:50:40,589 --> 00:50:42,591
and I'm happy that I brought
this kind of joy.
927
00:50:42,625 --> 00:50:44,248
But you know what?
When I'm here alone
928
00:50:44,282 --> 00:50:48,114
in this Malibu home that looks
very cozy, it's lonely."
929
00:50:49,218 --> 00:50:51,703
RONSTADT:
There's a lot of show business
people down here, you know.
930
00:50:51,738 --> 00:50:53,671
It's not my style exactly.
931
00:50:53,705 --> 00:50:56,501
INTERVIEWER:
Where did you live before?
932
00:50:56,536 --> 00:50:59,435
Nowhere really. I was on the
road for about ten years
933
00:50:59,470 --> 00:51:02,473
and I didn't exactly have
a home.
934
00:51:02,921 --> 00:51:07,823
♪ On Blue Bayou ♪
935
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:25,358
ANNOUNCER: Singing the National
Anthem here at Dodger Stadium,
936
00:51:25,392 --> 00:51:27,360
Ms. Linda Ronstadt.
937
00:51:31,605 --> 00:51:34,194
♪ Oh, say can you see? ♪
938
00:51:34,229 --> 00:51:37,611
PATRICIA CASADO:
I remember my dad was watching
her at the game.
939
00:51:37,646 --> 00:51:39,751
She sang the National Anthem.
940
00:51:40,269 --> 00:51:44,273
♪ What so proudly we hailed ♪
941
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,137
♪ At the twilight's... ♪
942
00:51:46,172 --> 00:51:47,656
All of sudden there she is.
943
00:51:47,690 --> 00:51:50,555
She'd come in the limo straight
to the restaurant from the game
944
00:51:50,590 --> 00:51:52,247
to have something to eat.
945
00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:56,527
My parents had a small
restaurant on Melrose Avenue
946
00:51:56,561 --> 00:51:59,737
across the street from what
was then KHJ Radio
947
00:51:59,771 --> 00:52:02,153
which was the radio
station in the day.
948
00:52:02,774 --> 00:52:05,674
Linda walked in and my dad
was wearing a shirt
949
00:52:05,708 --> 00:52:08,504
that we call in Mexico Aloe Vera
950
00:52:08,539 --> 00:52:11,921
and it has four pockets
and it's white and she said,
951
00:52:11,956 --> 00:52:13,302
"This is a good place
952
00:52:13,337 --> 00:52:15,477
because he's wearing
the shirt my dad wears.
953
00:52:16,340 --> 00:52:18,411
HILBURN: A lot of the people
who hung out at the Troubadour
954
00:52:18,445 --> 00:52:20,413
also ate at Lucy's.
955
00:52:21,241 --> 00:52:24,451
Lucy was very shall we say
loose with the check
956
00:52:24,486 --> 00:52:26,867
now and again
and if we were on hard times.
957
00:52:27,937 --> 00:52:31,320
CASADO: Our customers were not
just soon-to-be celebrities
958
00:52:31,355 --> 00:52:34,668
of the industries, they were the
oligarch of Los Angeles.
959
00:52:34,703 --> 00:52:37,361
I mean, you're talking
old-school money.
960
00:52:38,776 --> 00:52:40,502
There was a big
communal table that my father
961
00:52:40,536 --> 00:52:41,641
used to sit everybody at.
962
00:52:41,675 --> 00:52:43,850
So you'd sit with policemen,
you'd sit with firemen,
963
00:52:43,884 --> 00:52:46,473
sometimes you'd sit with an
actor, sometimes you'd sit...
964
00:52:46,508 --> 00:52:49,304
a football player. You never
had any idea who you'd sit with.
965
00:52:49,338 --> 00:52:52,410
What happened was Linda
had decided
966
00:52:52,445 --> 00:52:54,412
that she wanted to change
the 8-track
967
00:52:54,447 --> 00:52:55,689
because she wanted to hear
something else.
968
00:52:55,724 --> 00:52:59,279
So she had to step up
on this little wine rack
969
00:52:59,314 --> 00:53:02,420
and at that moment the Governor
Jerry Brown comes in
970
00:53:02,455 --> 00:53:06,459
that room and he sees her
and it was like wow!
971
00:53:06,493 --> 00:53:07,701
Who's she?
972
00:53:08,530 --> 00:53:11,878
So my father went
and he sat them together.
973
00:53:13,362 --> 00:53:14,915
And, well,
he fell in love with her.
974
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:16,745
There was no question
about that.
975
00:53:17,815 --> 00:53:19,368
RONSTADT:
Jerry likes passionate music.
976
00:53:19,403 --> 00:53:21,439
He likes passionate music,
passionate women,
977
00:53:21,474 --> 00:53:22,820
that's his deal.
978
00:53:23,476 --> 00:53:25,443
We had a really
good time together.
979
00:53:27,859 --> 00:53:30,276
He went out to run for president
for the last couple of months
980
00:53:30,310 --> 00:53:33,348
and he pending for the fact that
I got to see him on TV
981
00:53:33,382 --> 00:53:35,522
I may have forgot
what he looked like.
982
00:53:38,007 --> 00:53:39,561
But he came back yesterday.
983
00:53:39,595 --> 00:53:40,976
He's gonna make it
all better now.
984
00:53:44,428 --> 00:53:45,946
That's what he told me anyway.
985
00:53:45,981 --> 00:53:47,741
I have yet to see.
986
00:53:48,052 --> 00:53:51,573
♪ My boyfriend's back
And you're gonna be trouble ♪
987
00:53:51,607 --> 00:53:54,921
♪ Hey now, hey now
My boyfriend's back ♪
988
00:53:54,955 --> 00:53:56,371
♪ When you see him coming... ♪
989
00:53:56,405 --> 00:53:58,407
HOST:
Did you have much of a problem
when you're with Jerry Brown
990
00:53:58,442 --> 00:54:01,272
people expecting you
to have political views
991
00:54:01,307 --> 00:54:03,723
along the lines of
Governor Brown?
992
00:54:03,757 --> 00:54:06,381
Whereas you're a
singer, he's a politician.
993
00:54:06,415 --> 00:54:07,934
Our relationship
was completely personal,
994
00:54:07,968 --> 00:54:09,315
it wasn't political at all.
995
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:11,524
So, you know, he did politics,
I did music.
996
00:54:11,558 --> 00:54:13,871
- Right.
- It's easy to separate that.
997
00:54:14,112 --> 00:54:16,322
You went to South Africa
recently.
998
00:54:16,356 --> 00:54:18,772
Did you receive criticism
for going there?
999
00:54:18,807 --> 00:54:20,947
As far as I was concerned
it was just a gig.
1000
00:54:20,981 --> 00:54:23,018
I don't think that if you
disagree with the policies
1001
00:54:23,052 --> 00:54:25,538
of the government, which I do
very definitely disagree
1002
00:54:25,572 --> 00:54:27,609
with the policies of the
South African government,
1003
00:54:27,643 --> 00:54:29,058
I don't think that's enough
of a reason not to go
1004
00:54:29,093 --> 00:54:30,336
and play music there.
1005
00:54:30,370 --> 00:54:33,028
If I did that I wouldn't be able
to play in the United State
1006
00:54:33,062 --> 00:54:35,341
because I don't agree with their
policies about nuclear power,
1007
00:54:35,375 --> 00:54:36,583
nuclear warfare.
1008
00:54:36,618 --> 00:54:39,655
I mean, my God, we've got this
person running the country
1009
00:54:39,690 --> 00:54:41,416
that I completely disagree with.
1010
00:54:41,450 --> 00:54:43,901
If I decided that I wasn't
going to play where attitudes
1011
00:54:43,935 --> 00:54:47,663
of racism prevailed, I certainly
couldn't play in Australia
1012
00:54:47,698 --> 00:54:51,529
or England or lots of places
in the United States,
1013
00:54:51,564 --> 00:54:53,842
a lot of places in the American
South or Boston
1014
00:54:53,876 --> 00:54:55,533
which is extremely racist.
1015
00:54:55,568 --> 00:54:58,467
I went to South Africa, it has a
fascist repressive government.
1016
00:54:58,502 --> 00:55:00,020
I'm very interested in
the culture down there.
1017
00:55:00,055 --> 00:55:01,056
You just got finished talking.
1018
00:55:01,090 --> 00:55:03,369
You say why does anyone
think I'm controversial.
1019
00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:05,543
Do you realized what
you've just talked about here?
1020
00:55:05,578 --> 00:55:07,821
We've just received all your
political views in one blow.
1021
00:55:07,856 --> 00:55:09,858
I'm teasing.
I'm not putting it down.
1022
00:55:09,892 --> 00:55:12,343
I don't think my political
views are very controversial.
1023
00:55:12,378 --> 00:55:14,414
Who likes nuclear warfare?
1024
00:55:14,449 --> 00:55:17,003
I remember her having the Wall
Street Journal in her bag
1025
00:55:17,037 --> 00:55:20,006
one time in the 70s when she was
dating Jerry and I went,
1026
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,147
you know, I had thought she was
really smart but she's really
1027
00:55:23,181 --> 00:55:26,392
well read and very, very up
on a lot of different things.
1028
00:55:26,426 --> 00:55:31,051
She's as wide ranging in her
critical intellectual pursuits
1029
00:55:31,086 --> 00:55:34,572
as she is in her music pursuits
and you don't find that kind
1030
00:55:34,607 --> 00:55:37,955
of depth and eclecticism
in pop music.
1031
00:55:39,612 --> 00:55:44,375
CASADO:
Jerry needed somebody that could
be full-time there for him.
1032
00:55:45,169 --> 00:55:47,654
You couldn't have two careers
in that family.
1033
00:55:47,689 --> 00:55:50,657
♪ I never will marry... ♪
1034
00:55:50,692 --> 00:55:51,969
There's not enough time.
1035
00:55:52,003 --> 00:55:55,006
♪ I'll be no man's wife ♪
1036
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,803
♪ I tend to stay single ♪
1037
00:56:00,011 --> 00:56:03,014
♪ For my rest of my life ♪
1038
00:56:03,567 --> 00:56:06,086
BONOFF: I mean, the same
reason I never got married.
1039
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,641
I don't know, I think
it's hard being a woman
1040
00:56:08,675 --> 00:56:10,021
in the music business.
1041
00:56:10,056 --> 00:56:13,508
You know,
it's a different kind of life.
1042
00:56:13,784 --> 00:56:16,027
♪ Rushing waters ♪
1043
00:56:16,718 --> 00:56:20,584
♪ Went over my head ♪
1044
00:56:20,618 --> 00:56:22,724
RAITT: Well you don't need to
get married, you what I mean?
1045
00:56:22,758 --> 00:56:24,760
It's like we have our own income
1046
00:56:24,795 --> 00:56:27,970
and you don't have to have
the state verify
1047
00:56:28,005 --> 00:56:29,593
that you love somebody
1048
00:56:29,627 --> 00:56:31,595
and when that relationship's
over you leave.
1049
00:56:31,629 --> 00:56:33,459
Neither one of us are
really made for marriage
1050
00:56:33,493 --> 00:56:36,151
or I think long-term
relationships.
1051
00:56:36,876 --> 00:56:38,222
INTERVIEWER:
Why did you break up?
1052
00:56:38,256 --> 00:56:41,087
I can't remember.
Maybe she could tell you.
1053
00:56:41,121 --> 00:56:44,918
♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪
1054
00:56:45,229 --> 00:56:49,026
♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪
1055
00:56:49,854 --> 00:56:53,202
♪ People tell me
Love's for fools ♪
1056
00:56:53,755 --> 00:56:57,621
♪ But here I go
Breaking all the rules ♪
1057
00:56:57,655 --> 00:56:59,554
♪ Seems so easy... ♪
1058
00:56:59,588 --> 00:57:03,040
RONSTADT:
My mom wanted to be a scientist
but she had four kids
1059
00:57:03,074 --> 00:57:06,215
and I think it was also a little
bit of a disappointment.
1060
00:57:06,250 --> 00:57:08,735
♪ It's so easy
To fall in love... ♪
1061
00:57:08,770 --> 00:57:11,600
She always said to me
go out and have a life.
1062
00:57:11,635 --> 00:57:14,465
You don't just have to get
married, there are alternatives.
1063
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:18,020
♪ It's so easy
to fall in love ♪
1064
00:57:18,607 --> 00:57:22,059
♪ It's so easy
to fall in love ♪
1065
00:57:23,785 --> 00:57:26,891
I have to confess, I got a
really bad crush on this guy.
1066
00:57:28,099 --> 00:57:30,895
We had a little romance for a
while but it wasn't long lived.
1067
00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:32,863
He dumped me for this pig.
1068
00:57:32,897 --> 00:57:35,210
Well, at least
I got his picture.
1069
00:57:37,764 --> 00:57:39,766
♪ Does he love me? ♪
1070
00:57:39,801 --> 00:57:41,941
♪ I want to know ♪
1071
00:57:41,975 --> 00:57:45,634
♪ How can I tell
if he loves me so? ♪
1072
00:57:45,669 --> 00:57:47,602
♪ Is it in his eyes? ♪
1073
00:57:47,636 --> 00:57:49,742
♪ Oh no, you make believe ♪
1074
00:57:49,776 --> 00:57:51,813
♪ Is it in his size ♪
1075
00:57:51,847 --> 00:57:53,918
♪ Oh no
You'll be deceived ♪
1076
00:57:53,953 --> 00:57:57,922
♪ If you want to know
if he loves you so ♪
1077
00:57:57,957 --> 00:57:59,786
♪ It's in his kiss ♪
1078
00:57:59,821 --> 00:58:01,616
♪ That's where it is ♪
1079
00:58:01,961 --> 00:58:05,620
ANNOUNCER:
To present the nominees
for favorite female
1080
00:58:05,654 --> 00:58:10,832
in rock and pop are Teddy
Pendergrass and Tanya Tucker.
1081
00:58:11,108 --> 00:58:13,524
The nominees are:
Linda Ronstadt.
1082
00:58:16,596 --> 00:58:18,322
Ms. Barbara Streisand.
1083
00:58:20,980 --> 00:58:22,222
And Donna Summer.
1084
00:58:23,603 --> 00:58:24,639
You open the envelope.
1085
00:58:24,673 --> 00:58:25,778
I'm too nervous.
1086
00:58:25,812 --> 00:58:28,263
I'll do the gentlemanly
thing here and I'll open it.
1087
00:58:28,297 --> 00:58:30,886
- If you will read.
- Okay. And the winner is...
1088
00:58:30,921 --> 00:58:32,060
Linda Ronstadt.
1089
00:58:36,582 --> 00:58:38,204
Linda was the queen.
1090
00:58:38,238 --> 00:58:40,620
She was like what
Beyoncé is now.
1091
00:58:42,657 --> 00:58:45,280
She was the first female
rock and roll star.
1092
00:58:45,729 --> 00:58:47,765
♪ Want love? ♪
1093
00:58:49,180 --> 00:58:51,113
♪ Get closer ♪
1094
00:58:52,045 --> 00:58:54,082
HILBURN: She was the only
female artist the have
1095
00:58:54,116 --> 00:58:59,225
five platinum albums in a row
and most of them multi-platinum.
1096
00:58:59,950 --> 00:59:02,090
♪ Hold my hand ♪
1097
00:59:03,298 --> 00:59:05,990
For favorite female
in rock and pop...
1098
00:59:06,025 --> 00:59:07,233
Favorite country single...
1099
00:59:07,267 --> 00:59:09,338
Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstadt.
1100
00:59:09,373 --> 00:59:11,237
- And the winner is...
- Takes another one.
1101
00:59:11,271 --> 00:59:14,309
- Linda Ronstadt.
- The winner is Linda Ronstadt.
1102
00:59:14,896 --> 00:59:18,313
♪ You make a fuss when
her eyes ain't on you ♪
1103
00:59:18,347 --> 00:59:21,903
♪ Well give us something
to look forward to ♪
1104
00:59:21,937 --> 00:59:25,216
♪ Remember all those
other girls who ran ♪
1105
00:59:25,838 --> 00:59:28,357
RONSTADT:
The nature of being a pop
musician is that you get
1106
00:59:28,392 --> 00:59:30,187
these things
that are successful
1107
00:59:30,221 --> 00:59:32,292
and you have to sing them
for the rest of your life.
1108
00:59:32,327 --> 00:59:33,949
Over and over and over again
and they start sounding
1109
00:59:33,984 --> 00:59:35,848
like your washing machine.
1110
00:59:38,436 --> 00:59:41,405
I didn't like singing in big
arenas because the sound
1111
00:59:41,439 --> 00:59:44,684
was like, you know, you'd hear
the guitar solo that
1112
00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:47,273
they played last week still
ringing around the rafters.
1113
00:59:49,827 --> 00:59:52,312
So I started looking
for other things to do.
1114
00:59:56,972 --> 00:59:59,941
COODER:
There is this feeling that
she has about the music itself
1115
00:59:59,975 --> 01:00:02,288
rather than the career itself.
1116
01:00:02,322 --> 01:00:05,912
You know, some people are
just hardcore careerists.
1117
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:07,949
There's nothing wrong with that.
1118
01:00:08,674 --> 01:00:12,022
You know, it's how your mind
works that makes the difference.
1119
01:00:12,056 --> 01:00:15,888
It's how you see yourself or how
you see yourself in the world,
1120
01:00:15,922 --> 01:00:16,958
you know.
1121
01:00:16,992 --> 01:00:20,340
And not everybody's
a pure art for art's sake
1122
01:00:20,375 --> 01:00:22,342
and not everybody's
a pure careerist either,
1123
01:00:22,377 --> 01:00:23,481
especially in music
1124
01:00:23,516 --> 01:00:27,071
because musicians love music
or they wouldn't do it.
1125
01:00:30,074 --> 01:00:31,766
HILBURN:
She wanted to change.
1126
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,182
She got tired
of doing arena rock,
1127
01:00:34,216 --> 01:00:36,115
she wanted to try
different things.
1128
01:00:38,048 --> 01:00:40,222
RONSTADT:
I picked up the phone and called
my great friend John Rockwell
1129
01:00:40,257 --> 01:00:43,329
who writes music criticism
for the New York Times.
1130
01:00:44,364 --> 01:00:46,884
I said I hate playing
these big sporting arenas.
1131
01:00:46,919 --> 01:00:49,646
It's not good for the audience,
it's not good for the band.
1132
01:00:49,887 --> 01:00:53,097
I want to sing in a theater
with a proscenium and a curtain.
1133
01:00:53,511 --> 01:00:55,306
He said well the next time
you come to New York
1134
01:00:55,341 --> 01:00:58,309
I'll take you down to meet this
fellow named Joseph Papp.
1135
01:00:58,793 --> 01:01:00,933
He has a theater, it's called
the New York Public Theater
1136
01:01:00,967 --> 01:01:04,074
and he does Shakespeare and he
does musicals; he did Hair.
1137
01:01:04,764 --> 01:01:07,077
He wanted to do
The Pirates of Penzance.
1138
01:01:07,767 --> 01:01:10,045
My mom was
a Gilbert and Sullivan lover.
1139
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,393
She had a big book of Gilbert
and Sullivan songs on the piano.
1140
01:01:14,015 --> 01:01:17,984
And I actually learned all
the soprano parts as a kid.
1141
01:01:18,433 --> 01:01:20,400
And I loved singing them
1142
01:01:20,435 --> 01:01:22,989
but I never got a chance to
in rock and roll.
1143
01:01:23,749 --> 01:01:26,959
HILBURN: That was in her roots,
that was in her upbringing,
1144
01:01:26,993 --> 01:01:30,687
it was part of her authentic
musical experience.
1145
01:01:31,998 --> 01:01:34,173
RONSTADT: Joe called me and
said if I wanted to do the part
1146
01:01:34,207 --> 01:01:35,726
I could have it.
1147
01:01:35,761 --> 01:01:37,245
And I said no I have to come
and audition
1148
01:01:37,279 --> 01:01:39,350
because I didn't know whether
I could sing it or not.
1149
01:01:40,179 --> 01:01:43,044
She wanted to be certain
that she would do it well.
1150
01:01:43,285 --> 01:01:45,218
They thought being able to say
Linda Ronstadt's in it
1151
01:01:45,253 --> 01:01:47,186
would be good for business.
1152
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:50,258
But her concern was whether
it would be good for the show.
1153
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,989
SOUTHER: I was there for several
rehearsals and she was fabulous.
1154
01:01:57,023 --> 01:01:59,405
She just grabbed it
by the horns and...
1155
01:02:04,997 --> 01:02:06,446
RONSTADT: That was the first job
I was ever offered
1156
01:02:06,481 --> 01:02:07,758
where I actually got
to sing like that.
1157
01:02:07,793 --> 01:02:10,450
I was delighted, I really was.
But I can't do it very well yet.
1158
01:02:10,485 --> 01:02:12,280
Because it's really hard.
You can't learn that overnight.
1159
01:02:12,314 --> 01:02:14,938
- You got to be in training.
- In training, yup.
1160
01:02:18,562 --> 01:02:22,946
GEFFEN:
Linda had a great voice and she
had a great vision for herself
1161
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:26,466
and she didn't want to just
be singing rock and roll,
1162
01:02:26,501 --> 01:02:28,089
she wanted to do everything.
1163
01:02:28,468 --> 01:02:31,817
♪ Hold, monsters! ♪
1164
01:02:32,162 --> 01:02:34,509
♪ Ere your pirate
Caravanserai ♪
1165
01:02:34,543 --> 01:02:38,444
♪ Proceed, against our will
to wed us all ♪
1166
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:43,414
♪ Just bear in mind that we
Are Wards in Chancery ♪
1167
01:02:43,449 --> 01:02:47,453
♪ And father
is a Major-General ♪
1168
01:02:47,487 --> 01:02:49,558
KEVIN KLINE:
I knew some of her songs, sure.
1169
01:02:49,593 --> 01:02:52,182
But operetta?
1170
01:02:52,423 --> 01:02:53,873
♪ Prepare! ♪
1171
01:02:53,908 --> 01:02:59,568
♪ Unhappy General Stanley ♪
1172
01:02:59,603 --> 01:03:01,847
A week into rehearsal we all
sang through the score
1173
01:03:01,950 --> 01:03:04,125
just sitting in a circle
in chairs
1174
01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:08,232
and when I heard her voice
it was just
1175
01:03:08,267 --> 01:03:14,825
this belle canto soprano
gorgeous musical,
1176
01:03:16,275 --> 01:03:19,623
celestial yet earthy, just pure,
1177
01:03:19,657 --> 01:03:22,177
something so pure,
it just made me cry.
1178
01:03:22,212 --> 01:03:24,352
I just remember just listening
to that voice,
1179
01:03:24,386 --> 01:03:27,044
it was just singing
that stuff...
1180
01:03:29,909 --> 01:03:30,979
Touching.
1181
01:03:31,946 --> 01:03:33,223
♪ Oh, sisters,
Deaf to pity's name ♪
1182
01:03:33,257 --> 01:03:34,949
♪ For shame! ♪
1183
01:03:34,983 --> 01:03:37,089
♪ It's true that he has
Gone astray ♪
1184
01:03:37,123 --> 01:03:38,849
♪ But pray ♪
1185
01:03:38,884 --> 01:03:41,231
♪ Is that a reason
Good and true ♪
1186
01:03:41,265 --> 01:03:42,404
♪ Why you ♪
1187
01:03:42,439 --> 01:03:48,963
♪ Should all be deaf
To pity's name? ♪
1188
01:03:49,342 --> 01:03:51,517
BROWNE:
Gilbert and Sullivan? Really?
1189
01:03:51,551 --> 01:03:54,865
A rock star who has the guts
to go out there
1190
01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:58,213
and do that kind of
musical comedy.
1191
01:03:58,248 --> 01:03:59,352
She just didn't care.
1192
01:03:59,387 --> 01:04:02,562
To her it was like
a mountain to climb.
1193
01:04:18,302 --> 01:04:20,926
PARTON: Linda can bring
herself to sing anything.
1194
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,584
She could sing opera, she could
do anything with her voice.
1195
01:04:24,619 --> 01:04:26,310
I couldn't do all that.
1196
01:04:39,151 --> 01:04:41,015
RONSTADT: Kevin Kline and I
were both nominated
1197
01:04:41,049 --> 01:04:42,568
for Tony Awards for that show.
1198
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,535
Kevin deserved it
more than I did.
1199
01:04:44,570 --> 01:04:46,468
All I did was walk
around and sing.
1200
01:04:53,406 --> 01:04:55,581
My mom died during
Pirates of Penzance.
1201
01:04:57,514 --> 01:04:59,481
I wasn't with her when she died.
1202
01:04:59,516 --> 01:05:02,001
And I just couldn't quite
get it through my head
1203
01:05:02,036 --> 01:05:03,278
that she was gone
out of the world
1204
01:05:03,313 --> 01:05:05,211
and I was never going
to see her again.
1205
01:05:07,973 --> 01:05:10,216
She'd had all these records --
Louis Armstrong,
1206
01:05:10,251 --> 01:05:12,046
Ella Fitzgerald,
1207
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,151
Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee.
1208
01:05:14,186 --> 01:05:16,913
And I thought I'd like to try
to sing some of those songs.
1209
01:05:17,189 --> 01:05:22,297
SINATRA:
♪ Only the lonely ♪
1210
01:05:22,332 --> 01:05:25,507
When we lived together almost
every evening the last record
1211
01:05:25,542 --> 01:05:27,475
we listened to was
a Frank Sinatra album
1212
01:05:27,509 --> 01:05:29,580
called Songs for
Only the Lonely.
1213
01:05:29,615 --> 01:05:31,962
With Nelson Riddle arranging.
1214
01:05:34,413 --> 01:05:38,313
JOE SMITH:
Constantly people were telling
Linda you can't do this.
1215
01:05:38,658 --> 01:05:40,039
I'm guilty.
1216
01:05:40,074 --> 01:05:42,731
When she was going to do
the Nelson Riddle album
1217
01:05:42,766 --> 01:05:45,217
I didn't think it was
a good idea,
1218
01:05:45,251 --> 01:05:47,115
not because she
couldn't do it
1219
01:05:47,150 --> 01:05:50,670
but because we had this run
going with rock and roll records
1220
01:05:50,705 --> 01:05:52,224
and country rock.
1221
01:05:53,708 --> 01:05:55,503
RONSTADT:
I said I'd like to find somebody
that can write arrangements
1222
01:05:55,537 --> 01:05:56,953
like Nelson Riddle.
1223
01:05:57,332 --> 01:06:00,094
They said why don't you
just ask Nelson Riddle?
1224
01:06:00,715 --> 01:06:03,166
Well I didn't know
he was still alive.
1225
01:06:03,442 --> 01:06:05,582
You were the only person
that I knew that could do
1226
01:06:05,616 --> 01:06:07,342
orchestrations like this.
1227
01:06:07,377 --> 01:06:08,654
I didn't know where you were,
1228
01:06:08,688 --> 01:06:10,587
whether you'd be interested
in working with me.
1229
01:06:10,621 --> 01:06:12,520
Whether you'd ever
heard of me or not.
1230
01:06:12,554 --> 01:06:14,246
And as soon as I started
learning the songs
1231
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,626
they just got inside me.
1232
01:06:15,661 --> 01:06:17,249
I wanted to record them
and I wanted to do it
1233
01:06:17,283 --> 01:06:19,182
worse than anything
I've ever wanted to do.
1234
01:06:19,216 --> 01:06:20,562
RIDDLE:
I remember your phrase for this.
1235
01:06:20,597 --> 01:06:24,290
You said these are
songs I cannot not do.
1236
01:06:24,325 --> 01:06:25,671
I can't not do them.
1237
01:06:25,705 --> 01:06:28,432
At some point
it's like falling in love.
1238
01:06:28,467 --> 01:06:30,089
Choice doesn't
even enter into it.
1239
01:06:30,124 --> 01:06:33,196
♪ What's new? ♪
1240
01:06:34,093 --> 01:06:37,407
♪ How is the world ♪
1241
01:06:38,615 --> 01:06:41,307
♪ Treating you? ♪
1242
01:06:42,412 --> 01:06:44,621
I would think oh my God,
how can I sing these songs?
1243
01:06:44,655 --> 01:06:47,141
Ella Fitzgerald has sung them,
Billie Holiday has sing them,
1244
01:06:47,175 --> 01:06:49,074
Frank Sinatra has sung them.
1245
01:06:50,868 --> 01:06:53,699
♪ Handsome as ever ♪
1246
01:06:55,218 --> 01:06:57,047
SOUTHER:
She studied all of those records
1247
01:06:57,082 --> 01:06:59,705
and she studied every available
version she could find
1248
01:06:59,739 --> 01:07:01,396
of each one of those songs.
1249
01:07:01,431 --> 01:07:03,364
She is a real student.
1250
01:07:03,398 --> 01:07:06,091
♪ What's new? ♪
1251
01:07:06,436 --> 01:07:10,336
♪ How did that romance ♪
1252
01:07:10,785 --> 01:07:12,787
♪ Come through? ♪
1253
01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:16,239
ASHER:
She told she wanted to get
those songs out of the elevator.
1254
01:07:16,273 --> 01:07:19,104
She meant that that's the
only place you heard them.
1255
01:07:19,138 --> 01:07:22,314
And she wanted to point out that
that's not where they belong.
1256
01:07:22,348 --> 01:07:24,454
They were some of the
best songs ever written.
1257
01:07:24,488 --> 01:07:28,561
♪ Why am I asking
what's new? ♪
1258
01:07:29,907 --> 01:07:33,152
SMITH: I went to her house and
tried to talk her out of it but
1259
01:07:33,187 --> 01:07:36,328
as soon as she told me Nelson
Riddle was going to do it,
1260
01:07:36,362 --> 01:07:39,538
I said well I'd like
to come to the record session.
1261
01:07:49,168 --> 01:07:50,894
RONSTADT: When my sister was
in high school she got to go
1262
01:07:50,928 --> 01:07:53,310
to her senior prom and she got
to wear these strapless dresses
1263
01:07:53,345 --> 01:07:54,691
with a lot of tool
1264
01:07:54,725 --> 01:07:56,865
and I always wanted
one of those dresses.
1265
01:07:58,798 --> 01:08:00,697
By the time I got to high school
1266
01:08:00,731 --> 01:08:03,148
styles had changed
and I never got to have one.
1267
01:08:03,182 --> 01:08:04,666
So I said I'm going to put
a show together,
1268
01:08:04,701 --> 01:08:06,703
we're all going to get to wear
those dresses.
1269
01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:10,810
♪ So dream ♪
1270
01:08:11,570 --> 01:08:15,091
♪ Dream ♪
1271
01:08:15,884 --> 01:08:18,542
♪ Dream ♪
1272
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:25,894
JOHNNY CARSON:
This is a real treat tonight.
1273
01:08:25,929 --> 01:08:27,862
We have three marvelous singers
on the show
1274
01:08:27,896 --> 01:08:30,727
and would you know how many
times they have been nominated
1275
01:08:30,761 --> 01:08:32,177
for Grammys between them?
1276
01:08:32,211 --> 01:08:33,799
Forty-five times in total.
1277
01:08:38,252 --> 01:08:40,219
The albums they've all sold
are in the multi-millions
1278
01:08:40,254 --> 01:08:42,428
and I guess it's taken
the ladies about ten years
1279
01:08:42,463 --> 01:08:44,603
to get this together where they
wanted to work together
1280
01:08:44,637 --> 01:08:48,676
and made an album called Trio
and it was well worth the time.
1281
01:08:48,710 --> 01:08:50,919
The album is described as
old-timey but it's sensational.
1282
01:08:50,954 --> 01:08:52,783
Would you welcome
Linda Ronstadt, Dolly Parton,
1283
01:08:52,818 --> 01:08:53,922
Emmylou Harris?
1284
01:09:01,999 --> 01:09:03,484
RONSTADT: I had met Dolly.
1285
01:09:03,518 --> 01:09:05,348
I saw her singing
on the Grand Ole Opry
1286
01:09:05,382 --> 01:09:06,659
and she was a wonder to behold.
1287
01:09:06,694 --> 01:09:09,490
What you have in front of you is
one of the most beautiful girls
1288
01:09:09,524 --> 01:09:10,663
you've ever seen.
1289
01:09:10,698 --> 01:09:12,389
She's just gorgeous.
1290
01:09:13,390 --> 01:09:14,633
When she opened her mouth
and started to sing
1291
01:09:14,667 --> 01:09:15,772
I fell on the floor.
1292
01:09:15,806 --> 01:09:17,670
She's an amazing singer.
1293
01:09:17,705 --> 01:09:19,603
♪ Jolene, Jolene ♪
1294
01:09:19,638 --> 01:09:22,537
♪ Jolene, Jolene ♪
1295
01:09:22,951 --> 01:09:27,715
♪ I'm begging of you
Please don't take my man ♪
1296
01:09:29,337 --> 01:09:30,787
RONSTADT: I told
Emmylou about her
1297
01:09:30,821 --> 01:09:32,720
and then Emmy
met her somehow.
1298
01:09:32,754 --> 01:09:34,515
♪ Jolene ♪
1299
01:09:34,549 --> 01:09:38,381
HARRIS:
When I made my first trip to
Nashville the powers that be
1300
01:09:38,415 --> 01:09:41,280
set up a meeting with Dolly
and she was making a record
1301
01:09:41,315 --> 01:09:44,525
in her studio
and it was like unbelievable.
1302
01:09:44,559 --> 01:09:47,390
It was better than
any Disneyland visit.
1303
01:09:47,424 --> 01:09:49,702
♪ Eyes of emerald green ♪
1304
01:09:49,737 --> 01:09:51,704
PARTON: They kind of found
my music somewhere
1305
01:09:51,739 --> 01:09:54,017
and kind of wanted
to meet me
1306
01:09:54,051 --> 01:09:56,330
and that's kind of how
we all started.
1307
01:09:57,331 --> 01:09:59,367
RONSTADT:
Emmy called me up and she's like
Dolly Parton's at my house,
1308
01:09:59,402 --> 01:10:00,989
you have to come over.
1309
01:10:01,024 --> 01:10:02,784
I was living like
40 minutes away
1310
01:10:02,819 --> 01:10:04,510
and I got there in 20 minutes.
1311
01:10:04,545 --> 01:10:07,755
She came over and there we were,
the three of us
1312
01:10:07,789 --> 01:10:10,240
and we were there
with our idol Dolly.
1313
01:10:10,275 --> 01:10:12,518
They had this big old house,
almost like a bunch of hippies
1314
01:10:12,553 --> 01:10:15,003
just living up there,
different people and musicians.
1315
01:10:15,038 --> 01:10:16,626
They had different bedrooms.
1316
01:10:16,660 --> 01:10:18,593
It was just a
free-for-all kind of house.
1317
01:10:18,628 --> 01:10:20,423
A dream for musicians.
1318
01:10:20,457 --> 01:10:23,943
And somebody said
well sing something.
1319
01:10:23,978 --> 01:10:27,878
♪ Bury me beneath the willow ♪
1320
01:10:27,913 --> 01:10:30,881
♪ Under the whipping willow
Tree ♪
1321
01:10:30,916 --> 01:10:35,541
♪ So he may know
Where I am sleeping ♪
1322
01:10:35,576 --> 01:10:38,717
♪ And perhaps
He'll weep for me ♪
1323
01:10:38,751 --> 01:10:40,028
So I started singing that
1324
01:10:40,063 --> 01:10:41,720
and then they started saying
sing that again.
1325
01:10:41,754 --> 01:10:43,342
I go "Oh, bury me..."
1326
01:10:43,377 --> 01:10:44,999
And here come
all these harmonies
1327
01:10:45,033 --> 01:10:47,657
and oh it was just
chilling, chilling, chilling.
1328
01:10:47,691 --> 01:10:49,797
♪ Beneath the willow ♪
1329
01:10:49,831 --> 01:10:53,766
♪ Under the weeping willow
Tree ♪
1330
01:10:53,801 --> 01:10:59,013
♪ Well he may know
Where I am sleeping ♪
1331
01:10:59,047 --> 01:11:02,913
♪ And perhaps
He'll weep for me ♪
1332
01:11:02,948 --> 01:11:04,915
When we heard our voices
1333
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:08,471
it was like injecting some kind
of serum into your veins.
1334
01:11:08,505 --> 01:11:10,611
It was like a high
like you've never felt.
1335
01:11:10,645 --> 01:11:12,578
We sang first in a living room
1336
01:11:12,613 --> 01:11:14,028
and said well
this sounds really good.
1337
01:11:14,062 --> 01:11:15,512
It was special,
it was different.
1338
01:11:15,547 --> 01:11:20,621
It was like a sound of
sisters, musical sisters.
1339
01:11:20,655 --> 01:11:25,867
♪ Won't you bury me
Beneath the willow ♪
1340
01:11:25,902 --> 01:11:29,802
♪ Under the weeping willow
Tree ♪
1341
01:11:29,837 --> 01:11:32,391
♪ Where he may know where... ♪
1342
01:11:32,426 --> 01:11:35,636
At that moment we thought
we have to do a record.
1343
01:11:37,707 --> 01:11:41,055
♪ To know know know him ♪
1344
01:11:41,366 --> 01:11:45,956
♪ Is to love love love him ♪
1345
01:11:45,991 --> 01:11:50,098
♪ Just to see him smile ♪
1346
01:11:50,133 --> 01:11:54,310
♪ Makes my life worthwhile ♪
1347
01:11:55,518 --> 01:11:57,451
RONSTADT: We learned so much
about singing from each other
1348
01:11:57,485 --> 01:11:59,418
because you get to sort of
be them for a second
1349
01:11:59,453 --> 01:12:00,902
when you're shadowing
them in harmony.
1350
01:12:00,937 --> 01:12:04,147
It's like getting on an eagle
and getting to see the world
1351
01:12:04,181 --> 01:12:06,494
through that eagle's experience.
1352
01:12:06,529 --> 01:12:08,151
I get to sing through
Dolly's voice
1353
01:12:08,185 --> 01:12:10,878
or sing through Emmy's voice
when I sing real close harmony.
1354
01:12:10,912 --> 01:12:12,569
♪ Why ♪
1355
01:12:13,708 --> 01:12:17,781
♪ Can't he see me? ♪
1356
01:12:18,782 --> 01:12:22,545
♪ How I... ♪
1357
01:12:22,579 --> 01:12:25,444
The only big disagreements would
be are we going to use autoharp
1358
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,584
or dulcimer on this song.
1359
01:12:29,206 --> 01:12:30,898
Sometimes we would disagree
about who would sing lead
1360
01:12:30,932 --> 01:12:32,658
because Emmy and I
always wanted Dolly
1361
01:12:32,693 --> 01:12:34,039
to sing lead on everything.
1362
01:12:34,073 --> 01:12:36,075
Oh, well Dolly will
sound great on that.
1363
01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:38,388
You sing lead!
No, you sing lead!
1364
01:12:40,459 --> 01:12:42,530
PARTON:
Linda is such a perfectionist.
1365
01:12:42,565 --> 01:12:44,049
She's a pain in the ass
sometimes
1366
01:12:44,083 --> 01:12:46,431
because she is such
a perfectionist.
1367
01:12:46,465 --> 01:12:48,743
Because she will not have it
unless it's perfect.
1368
01:12:48,778 --> 01:12:51,539
She used to make me sing those
harmonies over and over
1369
01:12:51,574 --> 01:12:54,784
and I said I'm going to sing it
the same way no matter what.
1370
01:12:54,818 --> 01:12:56,958
No, you're not! You're going
to hit this one note.
1371
01:12:56,993 --> 01:12:59,789
And see I don't know how to,
all those intricate harmonies
1372
01:12:59,823 --> 01:13:01,446
like Emmylou and Linda do.
1373
01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:03,965
I just sing that raw stuff
from feeling
1374
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,244
and it ain't always proper
but it sounds good.
1375
01:13:07,279 --> 01:13:10,972
♪ Yes just to know ♪
1376
01:13:11,007 --> 01:13:15,080
♪ Is to love love love him ♪
1377
01:13:15,114 --> 01:13:19,740
♪ And I do ♪
1378
01:13:22,018 --> 01:13:24,917
INTERVIEWER: Linda, you've sing
just about all types of music.
1379
01:13:24,952 --> 01:13:28,231
Light opera; you've been on
Broadway, rock and roll, pop.
1380
01:13:28,265 --> 01:13:30,509
What's your next project
going to be?
1381
01:13:30,544 --> 01:13:32,718
I'm going to do an album
of Mexican music,
1382
01:13:32,753 --> 01:13:33,719
of traditional Mexican music.
1383
01:13:33,754 --> 01:13:36,446
I'm kind of a
traditional Mexican myself.
1384
01:13:36,481 --> 01:13:38,690
You know, I grew up about 40
minutes from the Mexican border,
1385
01:13:38,724 --> 01:13:41,727
my family are Mexican,
and that is my roots.
1386
01:13:41,762 --> 01:13:44,592
That's what I came from
and I have been dying to do
1387
01:13:44,627 --> 01:13:46,042
this record
for years and years
1388
01:13:46,076 --> 01:13:47,630
and I'm getting around
to it this year.
1389
01:13:47,664 --> 01:13:49,770
Boy, I'm going o do it.
1390
01:13:56,984 --> 01:13:59,883
SOUTHER:
Our neighbor that lived behind
us in the garage apartment
1391
01:13:59,918 --> 01:14:02,610
was Harry Dean Stanton,
great character actor
1392
01:14:02,645 --> 01:14:05,544
and a great singer
of Mexican folk songs.
1393
01:14:05,993 --> 01:14:08,582
We would hear him up until
the wee hours singing
1394
01:14:08,616 --> 01:14:11,550
these Mexican folk songs,
these canciones.
1395
01:14:11,585 --> 01:14:15,174
And Linda knew all those songs.
1396
01:14:15,209 --> 01:14:18,108
I don't think people
thought of her as...
1397
01:14:18,143 --> 01:14:20,594
as Mexican.
1398
01:14:20,904 --> 01:14:23,631
It certainly never came up.
I never heard it.
1399
01:14:23,666 --> 01:14:26,669
I mean, the name
Ronstadt is not Hernandez.
1400
01:14:26,703 --> 01:14:28,533
Ronstadt is a
German-sounding name.
1401
01:14:28,567 --> 01:14:32,537
No, she's certainly
from Mexican heritage
1402
01:14:32,571 --> 01:14:34,884
but it wasn't the most
apparent thing.
1403
01:14:34,918 --> 01:14:36,920
RONSTADT: I want to see
where you put your D.
1404
01:14:36,955 --> 01:14:39,544
Say ganador.
1405
01:14:39,578 --> 01:14:41,718
Ga...
1406
01:14:41,753 --> 01:14:44,687
The phrasing, Ganador.
1407
01:14:44,721 --> 01:14:46,896
Ganador.
1408
01:14:46,930 --> 01:14:48,760
Ganador.
1409
01:14:48,794 --> 01:14:50,796
- Dor?
- Mm-hm. Mm-hm.
1410
01:14:50,831 --> 01:14:53,696
Is it on the roof of your mouth,
the back of your teeth or...
1411
01:14:54,213 --> 01:14:57,320
When he asked me if I would sing
a harmony on his record
1412
01:14:57,354 --> 01:14:59,149
I was completely delighted
1413
01:14:59,184 --> 01:15:02,567
because you can only learn
by doing. I can't...
1414
01:15:03,015 --> 01:15:04,810
there isn't a book you can get,
you know,
1415
01:15:04,845 --> 01:15:07,813
how do you learn how to be
a singer in Spanish?
1416
01:15:07,848 --> 01:15:09,988
It's always been a dream
of mine to make an album
1417
01:15:10,022 --> 01:15:12,956
of these Mexican songs
that I learned from my father.
1418
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:21,965
My father had a beautiful
baritone voice.
1419
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,347
He sounded like
a cross between Pedro Infante
1420
01:15:24,381 --> 01:15:26,211
and Frank Sinatra.
1421
01:15:27,281 --> 01:15:30,008
Always if there was a dinner
party or something he'd get the
1422
01:15:30,042 --> 01:15:33,632
guitar out and he'd just sing
and I always would fall asleep
1423
01:15:33,667 --> 01:15:36,877
in somebody's lap listening to
my dad sing some beautiful song.
1424
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,261
We always as a family,
we always sang in Spanish.
1425
01:15:42,296 --> 01:15:45,333
Even though I didn't understand
much of what I was singing,
1426
01:15:45,368 --> 01:15:46,921
it was something
that I learned to do.
1427
01:15:46,956 --> 01:15:48,751
It's kind of like lip reading,
you know.
1428
01:15:48,785 --> 01:15:51,995
I used to kind of chameleon in
harmony along with my father.
1429
01:15:57,725 --> 01:16:01,004
To learn to sing that style as
a grown-up professional singer,
1430
01:16:01,039 --> 01:16:02,627
that took some doing.
1431
01:16:30,793 --> 01:16:33,140
I always forget the beginning
where I go through the ending
1432
01:16:33,174 --> 01:16:34,728
and it makes it so hard.
1433
01:16:34,762 --> 01:16:36,384
Oh yeah.
What was it, this way?
1434
01:16:36,419 --> 01:16:37,938
Is that how you do it?
The Latin way.
1435
01:16:37,972 --> 01:16:39,318
Okay, I got it.
1436
01:16:40,941 --> 01:16:42,874
Okay, I'm learning
all these new things.
1437
01:16:50,019 --> 01:16:53,022
My dad invited me to go to the
Tucson Mariachi Conference
1438
01:16:53,056 --> 01:16:55,990
and that way I got to meet
the Mariachi Vargas.
1439
01:16:59,028 --> 01:17:02,100
Those good bands like the Cobre
or the Camperos
1440
01:17:02,134 --> 01:17:04,136
or the Mariachi Vargas, you're
going to go to a symphony
1441
01:17:04,171 --> 01:17:05,931
and you're not going to find
better musicians.
1442
01:17:05,966 --> 01:17:07,899
They're all virtuoso players.
1443
01:17:13,456 --> 01:17:15,354
I picked a couple of songs.
1444
01:17:16,286 --> 01:17:18,392
The band said these songs
are very traditional
1445
01:17:18,426 --> 01:17:20,359
and they're very difficult
to do.
1446
01:17:21,188 --> 01:17:23,017
I said well, they're
the only songs I know
1447
01:17:23,052 --> 01:17:24,950
so we better learn them.
1448
01:17:32,164 --> 01:17:33,959
I went to the president
of my record company,
1449
01:17:33,994 --> 01:17:36,375
who's a man who genuinely
likes music, and I said look,
1450
01:17:36,410 --> 01:17:38,170
I made all these records
for you, they saw this.
1451
01:17:38,205 --> 01:17:39,827
I'm going to do this
just for me
1452
01:17:39,862 --> 01:17:40,759
and this might be
self-indulgent.
1453
01:17:40,794 --> 01:17:42,174
If it sells two copies
I don't care
1454
01:17:42,209 --> 01:17:44,694
but if I can't record this music
I'm going to die.
1455
01:17:45,833 --> 01:17:48,008
I don't understand any Spanish.
1456
01:17:48,042 --> 01:17:52,012
I didn't understand how popular
those songs were
1457
01:17:52,046 --> 01:17:56,741
but this is a lady who wanted
to do it her way
1458
01:17:56,775 --> 01:17:58,535
and who was going to say no?
1459
01:18:31,327 --> 01:18:34,192
HILBURN: Canciones de mi Padre,
it's the largest selling
1460
01:18:34,226 --> 01:18:37,126
Spanish language album
in the history of the industry.
1461
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,923
That's the whole Linda Ronstadt
story right there in a nutshell.
1462
01:18:40,957 --> 01:18:44,098
Linda deciding she wants
to do something,
1463
01:18:44,133 --> 01:18:46,825
the record company telling
her she can't.
1464
01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:48,931
She goes ahead
and does it anyway
1465
01:18:48,965 --> 01:18:53,418
and they jump on board
as the thing starts to take off.
1466
01:18:55,006 --> 01:18:57,387
CASADO: Toda la Familia
would come and they loved it
1467
01:18:57,422 --> 01:19:00,011
because they were here
from Mexico.
1468
01:19:00,045 --> 01:19:03,083
Even though their kids
had grown up here
1469
01:19:03,117 --> 01:19:05,154
and become American citizens,
1470
01:19:05,188 --> 01:19:08,226
who is this girl singing songs
so beautifully.
1471
01:19:17,407 --> 01:19:19,202
COODER: The fact that she
went on and did that
1472
01:19:19,237 --> 01:19:21,411
and did it in such a big way.
1473
01:19:21,618 --> 01:19:23,379
It was a brave thing to do.
1474
01:19:23,413 --> 01:19:25,139
Many people would
have been terrified
1475
01:19:25,174 --> 01:19:26,969
I'll mess up my career.
1476
01:19:27,624 --> 01:19:32,388
But obviously she had
purpose, personal decision.
1477
01:19:33,354 --> 01:19:34,493
It's good.
1478
01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:14,879
RONSTADT:
To have that traditionalism
going along on the bus with me
1479
01:20:14,913 --> 01:20:17,157
from town to town where
I'd only sung pop music,
1480
01:20:17,191 --> 01:20:19,987
to take that part of the dirt
with me, you know,
1481
01:20:20,022 --> 01:20:22,990
the part of the soil of the land
where I came from to Cleveland
1482
01:20:23,025 --> 01:20:25,303
and Cincinnati and New York,
that was a thrill.
1483
01:20:25,337 --> 01:20:27,374
You should have seen
Central Park with, you know,
1484
01:20:27,408 --> 01:20:30,101
close to a million people
in it when the mariachi
1485
01:20:30,135 --> 01:20:32,586
got up on stage with their
big hats, the place fell out.
1486
01:20:32,620 --> 01:20:35,071
They went nuts. There
was such a thing of pride
1487
01:20:35,106 --> 01:20:37,142
that went from the stage
to the audience.
1488
01:20:37,177 --> 01:20:38,488
It was just great.
1489
01:20:39,973 --> 01:20:43,286
This song was written
by me and my father
1490
01:20:43,321 --> 01:20:45,841
and it's called
Lo Siento Mi Vida.
1491
01:20:51,674 --> 01:20:53,918
My dad died when he was 84.
1492
01:20:55,402 --> 01:20:58,543
There was a kind of a peace
that happened when he died.
1493
01:21:00,925 --> 01:21:03,099
In the three of four days before
he died he was reading to us
1494
01:21:03,134 --> 01:21:06,344
passages from
Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book
1495
01:21:06,378 --> 01:21:10,003
Love in the Time of Cholera
and it was just a great sharing.
1496
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:15,111
It was a different experience
being with my father
1497
01:21:15,146 --> 01:21:17,389
when he died
than it was with my mother.
1498
01:21:18,632 --> 01:21:21,566
I knew I was going to miss him
but I accepted it better.
1499
01:21:33,336 --> 01:21:35,925
He had what I would
describe as a beautiful death.
1500
01:21:40,309 --> 01:21:42,449
AARON NEVILLE: I'd seen her on
TV and I thought she was great
1501
01:21:42,483 --> 01:21:46,004
but when she came to
New Orleans she was just
1502
01:21:46,039 --> 01:21:49,974
so down to earth
and girl next door thing.
1503
01:21:50,353 --> 01:21:52,321
And just humble.
1504
01:21:53,356 --> 01:21:55,634
She was just a sweet,
humble person.
1505
01:21:56,981 --> 01:22:00,122
RONSTADT: I'd been in New
Orleans for the World's Fair
1506
01:22:00,156 --> 01:22:01,986
and somebody said well
the Neville Brothers are playing
1507
01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:04,022
at some club down
in the Quarter. We should go.
1508
01:22:04,057 --> 01:22:06,231
We going to get
serious, serious right now.
1509
01:22:06,266 --> 01:22:09,303
I'm going to turn you on to
our brother Aaron Neville.
1510
01:22:09,338 --> 01:22:10,546
RONSTADT: Aaron Neville
was on stage singing
1511
01:22:10,580 --> 01:22:12,479
this beautiful song Arianne.
1512
01:22:12,513 --> 01:22:14,067
♪ Arianne is April morning ♪
1513
01:22:17,277 --> 01:22:21,315
♪ That comes rippling
Through my window ♪
1514
01:22:21,522 --> 01:22:25,319
♪ She's the smell
of coffee brewing ♪
1515
01:22:25,630 --> 01:22:29,496
♪ On a quiet, rainy Sunday ♪
1516
01:22:29,703 --> 01:22:31,463
NEVILLE: Somebody told me
she was in the audience
1517
01:22:31,498 --> 01:22:33,534
so I called her up on stage.
1518
01:22:33,569 --> 01:22:35,433
Sing some doo wop.
1519
01:22:36,089 --> 01:22:37,538
RONSTADT: Usually I'll never do
anything like that
1520
01:22:37,573 --> 01:22:39,747
because I like to rehearse
everything first.
1521
01:22:39,782 --> 01:22:42,129
But I wasn't going to say no
to Aaron Neville.
1522
01:22:42,336 --> 01:22:44,718
NEVILLE: After that I asked
for an autograph.
1523
01:22:44,752 --> 01:22:47,376
She said To Aaron, Love,
I'll sing with you anytime,
1524
01:22:47,410 --> 01:22:50,275
any place, anywhere in any key.
1525
01:22:50,551 --> 01:22:53,692
[Don't Know Much
by Neville and Ronstadt]
1526
01:22:56,661 --> 01:22:58,732
♪ Look at this face ♪
1527
01:22:58,766 --> 01:23:00,251
RONSTADT: The next morning
I woke up
1528
01:23:00,285 --> 01:23:01,769
and my first thought
was boy I like singing
1529
01:23:01,804 --> 01:23:03,461
with Aaron Neville.
That sounded pretty good.
1530
01:23:03,495 --> 01:23:05,290
And then I thought, you idiot,
everybody sounds good
1531
01:23:05,325 --> 01:23:07,327
when they sing
with Aaron Neville.
1532
01:23:08,397 --> 01:23:11,262
I said we got to make a record
together and he was up for it.
1533
01:23:11,296 --> 01:23:13,298
♪ I don't know much ♪
1534
01:23:14,610 --> 01:23:17,751
♪ But I know I love you ♪
1535
01:23:21,272 --> 01:23:26,380
♪ And that may be
All I need to know ♪
1536
01:23:27,761 --> 01:23:30,591
NEVILLE: There were all kind
of rumors going on...
1537
01:23:31,661 --> 01:23:34,733
They say oh Linda and Aaron
got married or whatever.
1538
01:23:35,424 --> 01:23:37,046
Just crazy stuff.
1539
01:23:37,081 --> 01:23:39,531
♪ Look at these dreams ♪
1540
01:23:40,084 --> 01:23:44,329
♪ So beaten
And so battered ♪
1541
01:23:44,364 --> 01:23:46,435
♪ I don't know much ♪
1542
01:23:46,469 --> 01:23:48,575
NEVILLE: The producer told us
if you don't make it look real
1543
01:23:48,609 --> 01:23:52,096
ain't no sense doing it.
So we had to make it look real.
1544
01:23:54,546 --> 01:23:58,757
♪ That may be
All there is ♪
1545
01:23:59,482 --> 01:24:02,623
♪ To know ♪
1546
01:24:05,247 --> 01:24:09,596
At the studio I said I'll
see you at the Grammys.
1547
01:24:14,532 --> 01:24:17,086
I had a speech but
1548
01:24:18,398 --> 01:24:21,642
Too nervous. I just want to
say thank you to Linda first.
1549
01:24:22,712 --> 01:24:24,507
And my wife Joelle.
1550
01:24:26,923 --> 01:24:28,753
RONSTADT: Aaron and I won two
Grammys for that record.
1551
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,206
But as time went on there was
something really wrong
1552
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:34,655
with my voice.
1553
01:24:36,864 --> 01:24:40,627
I just lost a lot of
different colors in my voice.
1554
01:24:41,559 --> 01:24:43,216
There's a lot of things
you do in singing.
1555
01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:46,771
You turn your voice to different
planes to make different sounds
1556
01:24:46,805 --> 01:24:48,600
and I couldn't do any of that.
1557
01:24:51,810 --> 01:24:54,365
Turned out I had
Parkinson's disease.
1558
01:24:56,643 --> 01:24:58,679
Singing is really complex
1559
01:24:58,714 --> 01:25:02,200
and I was made most aware
of it by having it vanish.
1560
01:25:03,339 --> 01:25:06,791
I can still sing in my mind
but I can't do it physically.
1561
01:25:09,173 --> 01:25:13,142
I sang my last concert
on November 7th, 2009.
1562
01:25:13,556 --> 01:25:15,248
It was a Mexican show.
1563
01:25:16,801 --> 01:25:20,770
SOUTHER: Must have been
quite a reckoning
1564
01:25:20,805 --> 01:25:23,428
to have this marvelous
instrument
1565
01:25:23,463 --> 01:25:25,327
that could always
hold the notes, hit the notes
1566
01:25:25,361 --> 01:25:26,949
and shape the notes,
1567
01:25:26,983 --> 01:25:29,710
could no longer hold the notes
without quiver.
1568
01:25:31,885 --> 01:25:34,267
But there's a lot of good
records with
1569
01:25:34,301 --> 01:25:35,958
her magnificent voice on them
1570
01:25:35,992 --> 01:25:38,754
and I hear her laughing
in my head all the time.
1571
01:25:38,788 --> 01:25:40,687
I hear that cackle all the time.
1572
01:25:41,515 --> 01:25:43,448
I'm sort of never without her.
1573
01:25:46,279 --> 01:25:50,421
ASHER: I could imagine not being
able to sing for Linda is awful.
1574
01:25:50,835 --> 01:25:56,530
But I also know nobody who could
handle that kind of change
1575
01:25:56,565 --> 01:26:00,189
or adjustment in a more
logical and thoughtful
1576
01:26:00,224 --> 01:26:02,536
and intelligent way than Linda.
1577
01:26:04,331 --> 01:26:06,540
HARRIS: I don't think she
misses going on the road.
1578
01:26:06,816 --> 01:26:09,543
I don't think she
misses making records.
1579
01:26:11,338 --> 01:26:14,376
I think she misses
singing with her friends
1580
01:26:14,410 --> 01:26:17,379
and singing in the living room
with her family.
1581
01:26:19,519 --> 01:26:21,417
There's just no one
on the planet
1582
01:26:21,452 --> 01:26:25,594
that ever had or ever will
have a voice like Linda's.
1583
01:26:37,606 --> 01:26:39,470
RONSTADT: You know,
I'm grateful for the time I had.
1584
01:26:39,504 --> 01:26:43,198
I got to live a lot of my dreams
and I feel lucky about it.
1585
01:26:46,028 --> 01:26:48,410
Another person with Parkinson's
said that life after death
1586
01:26:48,444 --> 01:26:49,790
isn't the question.
1587
01:26:51,827 --> 01:26:53,691
It's life before death.
1588
01:26:56,418 --> 01:26:57,867
So how are you going to do it?
1589
01:26:59,041 --> 01:27:00,663
How are you going to live?
1590
01:27:57,133 --> 01:27:58,687
Couldn't find a part there.
1591
01:27:58,963 --> 01:28:00,447
Start right there.
1592
01:28:08,490 --> 01:28:10,630
I don't even have that note
in my speaking range anymore.
1593
01:28:12,356 --> 01:28:15,704
INTERVIEWER: Before you said
you couldn't sing anymore.
1594
01:28:15,738 --> 01:28:17,395
This isn't really singing.
1595
01:28:17,913 --> 01:28:20,812
Believe me,
it's a few notes.
1596
01:28:20,847 --> 01:28:23,608
- But it's not really singing.
- Are you enjoying it?
1597
01:28:23,643 --> 01:28:25,438
Well, I would enjoy it much more
if I could sing
1598
01:28:25,472 --> 01:28:27,405
but I can't let them
sing this without me.
1599
01:28:28,164 --> 01:28:29,890
It's a family thing.
1600
01:28:30,512 --> 01:28:32,790
Shall we?
You guys ready?
1601
01:29:50,454 --> 01:29:52,456
- Do we get to eat?
- Yes.
1602
01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:53,974
Good.
1603
01:29:54,009 --> 01:29:57,426
♪ I've been cheated ♪
1604
01:29:57,771 --> 01:30:00,981
♪ Been mistreated ♪
1605
01:30:01,499 --> 01:30:06,815
♪ When will I love be loved? ♪
1606
01:30:08,748 --> 01:30:11,785
♪ I've been put down ♪
1607
01:30:12,199 --> 01:30:15,202
♪ I've been pushed around ♪
1608
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:20,656
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
1609
01:30:22,796 --> 01:30:25,903
♪ When I find a new man ♪
1610
01:30:26,248 --> 01:30:28,802
♪ That I want for mine ♪
1611
01:30:29,769 --> 01:30:32,910
♪ Always breaks
My heart in two ♪
1612
01:30:32,944 --> 01:30:37,742
♪ It happens every time ♪
1613
01:30:38,812 --> 01:30:41,919
♪ I've been made blue ♪
1614
01:30:42,195 --> 01:30:45,474
♪ I've been lied to ♪
1615
01:30:45,854 --> 01:30:50,962
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
1616
01:31:07,185 --> 01:31:10,188
♪ When I find a new man ♪
1617
01:31:10,706 --> 01:31:13,744
♪ That I want for mine ♪
1618
01:31:14,089 --> 01:31:17,230
♪ He always breaks
My heart in two ♪
1619
01:31:17,264 --> 01:31:22,062
♪ It happens every time ♪
1620
01:31:23,167 --> 01:31:26,170
♪ I've been cheated ♪
1621
01:31:26,757 --> 01:31:29,794
♪ Been mistreated ♪
1622
01:31:30,208 --> 01:31:35,110
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
1623
01:31:37,664 --> 01:31:42,151
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
1624
01:31:43,221 --> 01:31:44,602
♪ Tell me ♪
1625
01:31:44,637 --> 01:31:47,950
♪ When will I ♪
1626
01:31:48,226 --> 01:31:50,021
♪ Be ♪
1627
01:31:50,988 --> 01:31:55,889
♪ Loved? ♪
1628
01:32:11,387 --> 01:32:14,114
♪ Where have you gone? ♪
1629
01:32:14,149 --> 01:32:16,876
♪ My darling one ♪
1630
01:32:17,255 --> 01:32:19,844
♪ Are you on your own? ♪
1631
01:32:20,362 --> 01:32:22,847
♪ Are you having fun? ♪
1632
01:32:23,192 --> 01:32:26,126
♪ Is there someone to hold ♪
1633
01:32:26,333 --> 01:32:29,095
♪ When you need it bad? ♪
1634
01:32:29,336 --> 01:32:32,201
♪ Is it controlled? ♪
1635
01:32:32,616 --> 01:32:37,655
♪ Like the love we had? ♪
1636
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,038
♪ Does the day go by ♪
1637
01:32:41,728 --> 01:32:44,041
♪ Like a memory? ♪
1638
01:32:44,766 --> 01:32:47,596
♪ Do you ever try ♪
1639
01:32:47,631 --> 01:32:50,254
♪ To remember me? ♪
1640
01:32:50,841 --> 01:32:53,809
♪ In an automobile ♪
1641
01:32:53,844 --> 01:32:56,329
♪ Or a crowded bar ♪
1642
01:32:56,881 --> 01:32:59,366
♪ Well I hope
You're all right ♪
1643
01:32:59,953 --> 01:33:04,751
♪ Wherever you are ♪
1644
01:33:05,683 --> 01:33:10,170
♪ If you're still within
The sound of my voice ♪
1645
01:33:10,895 --> 01:33:14,347
♪ Over some radio ♪
1646
01:33:14,761 --> 01:33:17,799
♪ I just want you to know ♪
1647
01:33:17,833 --> 01:33:22,148
♪ You were always
My only choice ♪
1648
01:33:23,943 --> 01:33:26,601
♪ And wherever you go ♪
1649
01:33:26,877 --> 01:33:29,914
♪ That I still love you so ♪
1650
01:33:29,949 --> 01:33:34,816
♪ If you're still within
The sound of my voice ♪
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