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964
00:47:30,121 --> 00:47:31,241
- When I grow up,
965
00:47:31,241 --> 00:47:35,801
I'd like to find out all
about the moon and all that.
966
00:47:37,321 --> 00:47:39,241
- Nick, a farmer's son,
967
00:47:39,241 --> 00:47:40,721
grew up in the Yorkshire Dales.
968
00:47:40,721 --> 00:47:43,201
- I said I was interested
in physics and chemistry.
969
00:47:43,201 --> 00:47:45,441
Well, I'm not gonna do that here.
970
00:47:45,441 --> 00:47:47,561
- At 14, he was
at away at boarding school,
971
00:47:47,561 --> 00:47:50,481
and at 21, reading physics at Oxford.
972
00:47:50,481 --> 00:47:52,561
So, what career are you gonna pursue?
973
00:47:52,561 --> 00:47:54,401
- It depends whether I'll be good enough
974
00:47:54,401 --> 00:47:56,281
to do what I want to really do.
975
00:47:57,721 --> 00:48:02,201
I would like if I can to do research.
976
00:48:02,201 --> 00:48:04,961
The gas in these experiments
is at a temperature
977
00:48:04,961 --> 00:48:07,721
comparable with that of the
sun, whereas in a power reactor,
978
00:48:07,721 --> 00:48:10,561
it would be maybe 10 times
the temperature of the sun,
979
00:48:10,561 --> 00:48:14,241
and we're trying to
induce that gas to fuse.
980
00:48:15,081 --> 00:48:17,561
- By 28, he had moved to America
981
00:48:17,561 --> 00:48:19,681
and was doing research into nuclear fusion
982
00:48:19,681 --> 00:48:22,121
at the University of Wisconsin.
983
00:48:22,121 --> 00:48:25,521
By 35, he was an
associate professor there.
984
00:48:25,521 --> 00:48:27,921
- The first one is basically saying
985
00:48:27,921 --> 00:48:30,081
that the rate of change
of crystal momentum,
986
00:48:30,081 --> 00:48:33,521
it's DDT at this quality H bar K.
987
00:48:33,521 --> 00:48:36,321
That is equal to the Laurent's Force.
988
00:48:36,321 --> 00:48:39,361
So, if you work out the
density in any cell.
989
00:48:40,321 --> 00:48:41,961
In addition to now being a full professor,
990
00:48:41,961 --> 00:48:44,041
I've been doing some administrative jobs.
991
00:48:44,041 --> 00:48:45,961
I've been associate
chair of my department,
992
00:48:45,961 --> 00:48:48,721
which means I've run the graduate
programme in my department,
993
00:48:48,721 --> 00:48:50,241
which is the Electrical
Engineering department.
994
00:48:50,241 --> 00:48:51,961
I've been running admissions
995
00:48:51,961 --> 00:48:56,961
and dealing with student problems
996
00:48:57,121 --> 00:48:59,921
and some for the graduate programme.
997
00:48:59,921 --> 00:49:01,881
And I've spent the last year and a half
998
00:49:01,881 --> 00:49:02,961
writing a couple of books.
999
00:49:02,961 --> 00:49:05,481
One about this business of using plasmas
1000
00:49:05,481 --> 00:49:07,241
to process semi-conductors,
1001
00:49:07,241 --> 00:49:09,161
and there is another one that
was about semi-conductors.
1002
00:49:09,161 --> 00:49:10,921
It's called "Semi-conductor Devises,"
1003
00:49:10,921 --> 00:49:14,441
and it's got a subtitle,
"A Simulation Approach."
1004
00:49:14,441 --> 00:49:15,801
- Do you have a girlfriend?
1005
00:49:19,281 --> 00:49:21,881
- I don't want to answer that.
1006
00:49:21,881 --> 00:49:26,161
I don't answer those kind of questions.
1007
00:49:27,481 --> 00:49:28,481
I thought that one would come up
1008
00:49:28,481 --> 00:49:32,281
because when I was, when I
was going on the other one,
1009
00:49:32,281 --> 00:49:34,641
somebody said, "What do
you think about girls,"
1010
00:49:34,641 --> 00:49:35,921
and I said, "I don't answer
questions like that."
1011
00:49:35,921 --> 00:49:37,881
Is that the reason you're asking it?
1012
00:49:38,841 --> 00:49:39,801
Yeah, I thought so.
1013
00:49:43,121 --> 00:49:44,721
The best answer would be to say
1014
00:49:44,721 --> 00:49:46,601
that I don't answer questions like that,
1015
00:49:46,601 --> 00:49:49,681
but you know, it's what
I said when I was seven,
1016
00:49:49,681 --> 00:49:51,521
and it's still the most sensible,
1017
00:49:51,521 --> 00:49:53,961
but I mean, what about them?
1018
00:49:53,961 --> 00:49:56,081
- Nick was only 17 when I first met him,
1019
00:49:56,961 --> 00:50:00,001
and I knew he was a nice person.
1020
00:50:00,001 --> 00:50:05,001
I find him very attractive
and he uses his intelligence
1021
00:50:05,841 --> 00:50:09,321
in his relationship with
me which is very important.
1022
00:50:09,321 --> 00:50:10,641
- His English-born wife Jackie
1023
00:50:10,641 --> 00:50:13,081
is a professor of journalism
at the university.
1024
00:50:13,081 --> 00:50:15,441
They have an eight-year-old son.
1025
00:50:15,441 --> 00:50:17,201
- Why only one child?
1026
00:50:17,201 --> 00:50:19,561
- Well, there's
a couple of reasons,
1027
00:50:19,561 --> 00:50:23,761
one is that these silly jobs we have
1028
00:50:23,761 --> 00:50:26,481
demand such an amount of time
1029
00:50:26,481 --> 00:50:30,201
and such a commitment that
it's hard to fit in one.
1030
00:50:30,201 --> 00:50:32,401
Also, he's such a lively person
1031
00:50:32,401 --> 00:50:34,001
and he demands such a lot of attention
1032
00:50:34,001 --> 00:50:37,321
that he makes it hard to
find time for another.
1033
00:50:37,321 --> 00:50:39,561
So, I think that's the main reason.
1034
00:50:39,561 --> 00:50:40,641
- So, you
don't want another one?
1035
00:50:40,641 --> 00:50:42,161
- Oh yes, no, I would love to.
1036
00:50:42,161 --> 00:50:44,801
I would dearly love to
have another one actually.
1037
00:50:44,801 --> 00:50:47,601
No that's, don't go away
with that impression.
1038
00:50:47,601 --> 00:50:50,161
No, I absolutely adore children.
1039
00:50:50,161 --> 00:50:54,201
If I can change the world,
I'd change it into a diamond.
1040
00:50:54,201 --> 00:50:55,721
I don't really think
that I've done anything
1041
00:50:55,721 --> 00:50:57,801
you could call a great success.
1042
00:50:57,801 --> 00:51:02,161
I mean, it would seem really ridiculous
1043
00:51:02,161 --> 00:51:04,561
to any of my friends who
watch this if I said,
1044
00:51:04,561 --> 00:51:06,961
"Christ, aren't I a great
success, look at me."
1045
00:51:06,961 --> 00:51:07,841
- When I first met you,
1046
00:51:07,841 --> 00:51:11,001
I remember I thought
this was very idealistic,
1047
00:51:11,001 --> 00:51:12,201
but it was rather interesting,
1048
00:51:12,201 --> 00:51:14,121
when I asked you why are
you working on fusion,
1049
00:51:14,121 --> 00:51:15,881
you said you wanted to save the world.
1050
00:51:15,881 --> 00:51:18,001
I think that's a bit embarrassing now,
1051
00:51:18,001 --> 00:51:19,921
but I don't think you'd feel the same way
1052
00:51:19,921 --> 00:51:23,081
about something that you
didn't feel mattered.
1053
00:51:23,081 --> 00:51:27,161
- I always wanted to have an impact,
1054
00:51:27,161 --> 00:51:28,401
to do something useful
1055
00:51:28,401 --> 00:51:30,081
that was actually going to benefit people.
1056
00:51:30,081 --> 00:51:34,201
I had this vision of people
in ivory towers being cut off,
1057
00:51:34,201 --> 00:51:35,321
doing stuff all their lives
1058
00:51:35,321 --> 00:51:37,201
and having no effect
on anybody whatsoever,
1059
00:51:37,201 --> 00:51:39,441
and that was absolutely
not what I wanted to do,
1060
00:51:39,441 --> 00:51:41,521
and so I chose to go
into this fusion business
1061
00:51:41,521 --> 00:51:44,161
'cause I thought this
would have a huge impact.
1062
00:51:44,161 --> 00:51:45,761
- Plasma's supposed to fill that volume.
1063
00:51:45,761 --> 00:51:48,081
- I'm not expecting to be reported
1064
00:51:48,081 --> 00:51:50,361
in newspaper headlines any time soon.
1065
00:51:51,241 --> 00:51:53,161
That's not the limit of my ambition,
1066
00:51:53,161 --> 00:51:56,681
but it's just trying to be realistic.
1067
00:51:56,681 --> 00:51:57,841
I'm just gonna have to try
1068
00:51:57,841 --> 00:52:01,401
and settle for reasonably small victories.
1069
00:52:01,401 --> 00:52:04,121
They'd like to come out for a holiday
1070
00:52:04,121 --> 00:52:06,201
in the country when we'd like,
1071
00:52:06,201 --> 00:52:09,561
when I'd like to have
a holiday in the town.
1072
00:52:09,561 --> 00:52:11,081
- Do you get lonely here?
1073
00:52:12,081 --> 00:52:15,001
- You just tend to get stuck
into your everyday routine,
1074
00:52:15,001 --> 00:52:18,721
and you don't think about
it, but when you call home,
1075
00:52:18,721 --> 00:52:21,241
then you realise how far away you are,
1076
00:52:21,241 --> 00:52:23,921
and now it seems acute
1077
00:52:23,921 --> 00:52:26,681
because both our families
are getting older,
1078
00:52:27,761 --> 00:52:30,481
even if you think in terms of seeing them
1079
00:52:30,481 --> 00:52:32,241
once every two years.
1080
00:52:33,081 --> 00:52:34,041
- That's not so many times.
- You're thinking only
1081
00:52:34,041 --> 00:52:36,961
about 10 times and that's awful.
1082
00:52:38,841 --> 00:52:41,401
- This year,
Nick went back to the Dales
1083
00:52:41,401 --> 00:52:42,481
to see his family.
1084
00:52:42,481 --> 00:52:44,961
It's been five years
since I've been back here.
1085
00:52:46,481 --> 00:52:47,321
It's changed quite a lot.
1086
00:52:47,321 --> 00:52:52,321
It's got more touristy and less
like a region that's farmed.
1087
00:52:52,441 --> 00:52:55,401
Every second house seems to
be a hotel at the moment.
1088
00:52:55,401 --> 00:52:56,321
- This is the old pippin.
1089
00:52:56,321 --> 00:52:57,961
- Well, it's been rotten for my dad
1090
00:52:57,961 --> 00:53:00,961
because he's been unable
to walk a lot of the time.
1091
00:53:00,961 --> 00:53:03,681
He'd had terrible troubles with his legs,
1092
00:53:03,681 --> 00:53:06,041
and of course, farming's
in a miserable shape,
1093
00:53:06,041 --> 00:53:11,041
so he's retiring, and
the stock have been sold.
1094
00:53:11,161 --> 00:53:12,521
Yes, I think he'd had a very hard life.
1095
00:53:12,521 --> 00:53:17,521
He's had to work enormous
hours every day of his life
1096
00:53:17,801 --> 00:53:20,401
doing something that
ultimately isn't going to work.
1097
00:53:22,961 --> 00:53:24,401
- Do you want
to take up farming?
1098
00:53:24,401 --> 00:53:25,241
- No.
1099
00:53:26,641 --> 00:53:28,721
I'm not interested in it.
1100
00:53:29,761 --> 00:53:31,481
My youngest brother, the deaf one,
1101
00:53:31,481 --> 00:53:32,321
if he can't do anything else,
1102
00:53:32,321 --> 00:53:36,241
he can probably run the farm
if he can't, as a last resort.
1103
00:53:42,801 --> 00:53:45,361
- So, your brothers
won't take over on the farm?
1104
00:53:45,361 --> 00:53:46,561
- Absolutely not, no.
1105
00:53:46,561 --> 00:53:48,961
Neither of them really
wanted to, I don't think.
1106
00:53:50,121 --> 00:53:51,881
Andrew's a newspaper reporter.
1107
00:53:51,881 --> 00:53:55,561
He's I think about to
take a job near York.
1108
00:53:56,521 --> 00:53:58,321
He's gonna need a base over there.
1109
00:53:58,321 --> 00:53:59,681
He can't commute from here.
1110
00:54:01,441 --> 00:54:03,481
Well, Christopher's
married, which is great.
1111
00:54:03,481 --> 00:54:07,761
He has a very nice wife who
is getting better and better
1112
00:54:07,761 --> 00:54:12,761
at communicating with the
deaf and he works in Skipton.
1113
00:54:12,961 --> 00:54:15,321
He's taking some courses in computers.
1114
00:54:15,321 --> 00:54:17,841
I'm not actually sure what,
but he always says to me
1115
00:54:17,841 --> 00:54:19,841
that I do computers and I
think that it's a good idea
1116
00:54:19,841 --> 00:54:22,161
that he does computers and I do.
1117
00:54:22,161 --> 00:54:24,481
So, I try to encourage him.
1118
00:54:24,481 --> 00:54:25,481
- So, you're all away,
1119
00:54:25,481 --> 00:54:27,521
so the Hitchons are finished here?
1120
00:54:27,521 --> 00:54:30,161
- Yes, the Hitchons are certainly
1121
00:54:30,161 --> 00:54:33,161
largely uprooted from here, aren't they?
1122
00:54:39,881 --> 00:54:44,641
I'm the only child in the village
1123
00:54:44,641 --> 00:54:46,081
except for my baby brother.
1124
00:54:49,481 --> 00:54:50,961
Well, this is Arncliffe School,
1125
00:54:50,961 --> 00:54:53,681
which is where my brother
and I went to school
1126
00:54:53,681 --> 00:54:56,081
from age five to 10.
1127
00:54:56,081 --> 00:54:57,241
And there's the church
1128
00:54:57,241 --> 00:54:59,401
where we were all
christened and everything.
1129
00:55:00,441 --> 00:55:03,441
We used to go to harvest
festivals and things there.
1130
00:55:04,961 --> 00:55:05,961
- What did you
learn here do you think
1131
00:55:05,961 --> 00:55:08,081
that you carried with you?
1132
00:55:08,081 --> 00:55:09,721
- Well, you just look at this place.
1133
00:55:09,721 --> 00:55:12,001
I mean, it's utterly beautiful
1134
00:55:12,001 --> 00:55:14,721
but not beautiful in
the pretty cutesy way.
1135
00:55:14,721 --> 00:55:19,721
I think of it as being magnificent
but rather grim really.
1136
00:55:20,081 --> 00:55:23,641
I sort of feel as if you
could look deep inside me,
1137
00:55:23,641 --> 00:55:27,001
I feel like there's some
of this in there somewhere,
1138
00:55:27,001 --> 00:55:29,921
and it's rather dower but just wonderful.
1139
00:55:31,961 --> 00:55:35,481
It's very uncompromising, and
sometimes it's rather tragic,
1140
00:55:35,481 --> 00:55:39,361
but it makes other places you go
1141
00:55:39,361 --> 00:55:41,201
seem rather trivial as well.
1142
00:55:42,201 --> 00:55:45,521
I'm just enormously proud
of having come from here.
1143
00:55:45,521 --> 00:55:48,881
The people are, the idea
of being a Dales person
1144
00:55:48,881 --> 00:55:51,041
is really terribly important to me.
1145
00:55:52,241 --> 00:55:55,081
What you see that's so magnificent
1146
00:55:55,081 --> 00:55:58,121
are the clouds sweeping by all the time,
1147
00:55:58,121 --> 00:56:02,721
air and cloud and water
continually sweeping over you.
1148
00:56:02,721 --> 00:56:04,561
I mean, there's a poetic side to that,
1149
00:56:04,561 --> 00:56:06,441
and I would be looking
at these and thinking,
1150
00:56:06,441 --> 00:56:09,241
"Now, how does a cloud work?"
1151
00:56:09,241 --> 00:56:10,521
And when you come down to it,
1152
00:56:10,521 --> 00:56:14,881
what I do when I try to solve equations,
1153
00:56:14,881 --> 00:56:17,441
it's the same equations
that describe clouds
1154
00:56:17,441 --> 00:56:19,521
and water and air flowing around.
1155
00:56:20,401 --> 00:56:23,121
From a scientific point of view,
1156
00:56:23,121 --> 00:56:26,601
I relate back to this sort of thing.
1157
00:56:26,601 --> 00:56:29,081
- So, this is a sign,
there's ESAs, there's LFAs.
1158
00:56:31,361 --> 00:56:33,161
- It's hard being
away from your roots, isn't it?
1159
00:56:33,161 --> 00:56:34,561
- Terribly hard.
1160
00:56:34,561 --> 00:56:36,721
It's hard in lots and lots of ways.
1161
00:56:36,721 --> 00:56:38,801
I mean, if you go to an alien culture,
1162
00:56:38,801 --> 00:56:41,081
you don't know what's going
on around you half the time.
1163
00:56:41,081 --> 00:56:42,961
It's really strange to go
to a different country,
1164
00:56:42,961 --> 00:56:45,521
people don't send out the same signals.
1165
00:56:45,521 --> 00:56:48,081
I could try that.
- Even if it's frightening.
1166
00:56:49,721 --> 00:56:53,961
- It's very hard to imagine
being able to come back here,
1167
00:56:53,961 --> 00:56:56,121
and I think about it a lot,
1168
00:56:57,641 --> 00:57:00,281
but I haven't seen the way to do it yet.
1169
00:57:04,281 --> 00:57:07,321
In some sense, it never
really belonged to me.
1170
00:57:07,321 --> 00:57:10,041
I mean, part of me would
love to own a stake in it,
1171
00:57:10,041 --> 00:57:12,161
but I really don't own any of it.
1172
00:57:12,161 --> 00:57:15,121
But the other thing is that
I've had to move out of here,
1173
00:57:15,121 --> 00:57:18,081
and I think that the way the world is,
1174
00:57:18,081 --> 00:57:21,161
it's very hard to stay in one place.
1175
00:57:21,161 --> 00:57:23,721
People are forced to move constantly.
1176
00:57:23,721 --> 00:57:26,441
The history of this century
has a lot of examples
1177
00:57:26,441 --> 00:57:29,401
where people moved or should have moved
1178
00:57:29,401 --> 00:57:33,161
and professionally and
in lots of other ways,
1179
00:57:33,161 --> 00:57:36,361
it's really important that
people are always thinking
1180
00:57:36,361 --> 00:57:38,681
about what's happening around them
1181
00:57:38,681 --> 00:57:40,721
and how they have to react to it.
1182
00:57:41,841 --> 00:57:44,641
Beauty's transient, so
maybe we can come by here
1183
00:57:44,641 --> 00:57:49,321
and visit it, but unfortunately,
1184
00:57:49,321 --> 00:57:52,001
I'm not gonna be permitted
to be here very much.
1185
00:57:55,961 --> 00:57:58,241
- And what about
all the other children?
1186
00:57:58,241 --> 00:57:59,481
What's happened to them?
1187
00:58:00,801 --> 00:58:05,801
- Well, I'll go in to Africa
and try and teach people
1188
00:58:05,841 --> 00:58:10,841
who are not civilised
to be more or less good.
1189
00:58:11,641 --> 00:58:13,841
- I'm going to work in Woolworths.
1190
00:58:13,841 --> 00:58:15,641
- What would you do if
you'd lots of money,
1191
00:58:15,641 --> 00:58:18,361
about maybe two pounds?
1192
00:58:18,361 --> 00:58:21,961
- I would buy meself a new
nice house, wouldn't I?
1193
00:58:21,961 --> 00:58:24,121
- What does university mean?
1194
00:58:24,121 --> 00:58:26,561
- When I grow up, I
want to be an astronaut,
1195
00:58:26,561 --> 00:58:28,641
but if I can't be an astronaut,
1196
00:58:28,641 --> 00:58:30,601
I think I'll be a coach driver.
1197
00:58:31,601 --> 00:58:34,321
Well, I'm going to take
people to the country
1198
00:58:34,321 --> 00:58:36,681
and sometimes take them to the seaside.
1199
00:58:38,001 --> 00:58:40,361
- Is Neil still homeless?
1200
00:58:40,361 --> 00:58:41,881
We'll find out tomorrow.
19036
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