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- You know there's something
unusual about this scene?
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What is odd about this scene?
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- Holy cow.
- This is a deep question.
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- It's not a quiz question.
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It's not hard to solve.
Look where we are.
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We're at this
most spectacular view
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overlooking this incredible
lake and these mountains,
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and yet, strangely,
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we're pointed in the direction
of the lavatory.
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I mean, I don't know
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what your view is.
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Mine's of three butt
ugly cameramen...
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- Okay, you are...
- And a fuckin' bathroom.
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- Amazing. I thought about it
when I came,
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but then I thought,
"Okay, obviously
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we want to show
the beauty of the back."
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I agree with you.
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- Let's saddle up.
- All right.
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- You ready to pull out,
so to speak?
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I'm brimming with content.
So I'm ready any time.
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- "Parts Unknown"... I mean,
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the title expresses
the intention of the show.
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- "Unknown." The unknown.
- And new.
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- I don't know what
"Parts Unknown" was.
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- "Parts Unknown" was...
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- Oh, fuck.
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- I can tell you what it wasn't.
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- It's hard to say, because
it certainly wasn't,
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in my mind, a food show.
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- Yeah, sure, we'll sit at
a table and we'll have a meal,
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but really it's about
culture, politics...
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- Comedy, action movie...
- Geography, history.
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- It wasn't a travel show.
- Adventure, horror.
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- You know, I don't know.
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It's hard for me to say
what "Parts Unknown" was,
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because I was so immersed
in it that it was... I mean,
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it was definitely
more than a job.
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It was, like, such
an incredible experience.
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- "What is 'Parts Unknown'?"
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is actually a really easy
question, because it was Tony.
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- Oh, yeah. That is... can I say
"tumescent" on CNN?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can.
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- I've often been asked the
question, "What was Tony like?"
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I feel like it's the first
question everyone asks.
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- What you saw onscreen,
it was and is that man.
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- That was the magic of Tony,
I think,
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is that people
who have never even met him,
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they would feel like
they would know him.
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- He was this curmudgeonly,
funny dude.
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- He said something like,
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"If you can't smoke
in a recording studio,
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what the fuck
has this world come to?"
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- Candid, raw...
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- Difficult, funny, brilliant...
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- He was honest... brutally,
at times.
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- Is he nice?
- He's not nice, but that's okay.
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- Even though you felt like
he maybe liked you
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and liked what you were doing,
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you were very, very,
very rarely ever gonna hear it.
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- Did Tony say "thank you"?
- For what?
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- I remember an event in Lyon,
and it was Tony,
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Daniel Boulud and Bill Buford,
and we had gone in and pre-lit
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everything to seamlessly move
from place to place.
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- And Tony notices the light
that is on over their head,
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that it's clearly
not a restaurant light
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but one of our lights.
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- Oh, nice.
- They've lit already.
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- And Bill's like,
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"Man, your crew's, like,
pretty awesome."
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- You have an amazing team.
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- And you could hear Tony say...
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- Only pet the baby
when he's sleeping,
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as we say in the kitchen.
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- "Only pet the baby
when it's sleeping."
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- "Only pet the baby
when it's sleeping."
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- It's... or you'll ruin him.
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- He was a great motivator
in that way.
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"Only pet the baby
when it's sleeping."
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I should do more of that.
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- Okay.
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All right. Say when.
Good?
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I'm sure
I did not write this line.
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- His soul was the soul
of a writer,
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and I think he was
a beautiful writer.
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And I think that kind of,
you know, poetry
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and his love
came out through his words.
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- Next time you turn off
a news cycle
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filled with shouting
bobbleheads,
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convinced that America
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is devolving
into a moronic inferno,
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questioning the greatness
of your nation,
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maybe you should come here.
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Here are your
purple mountains majesty.
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- I think when we really
hit it right,
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and why I think it's timeless,
it's Tony's voice.
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That's why people responded
so well to it, right?
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They wanted to hear what this
man had to say about the world.
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- Europeans first reached
West Africa
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in the mid-15th century,
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bringing with them
the usual things:
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an industrialized slave trade,
subjugation,
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the rule of the many
by the very few.
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- The moment that Tony's voice
actually gets into a show,
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all of a sudden,
you have a full picture.
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You have the full perspective
of this man
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who has an angle, you know?
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He knows how
to point up a story.
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- So, first question would be,
in your lifetime,
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will you be able to visit Yafa?
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- He wanted to give a platform
to people
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who would usually be ignored,
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you know,
who would be forgotten...
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People who wouldn't have
a voice otherwise.
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He really gave those people
and opportunity to shine.
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- He always, like, joked about
magical ponies and unicorns,
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but, like, he truly was.
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He was like
a fucking unicorn, like...
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- Coming into "Parts Unknown,"
in the first season,
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there was a real mandate
to make it different.
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It was a lot of pressure.
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- If you really want to find
something new,
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you have to be willing to fully
embrace that feeling of lost,
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or "I don't know
what I'm doing,"
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and that's terrifying,
anxiety-ridden,
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and also the absolute most joy
you can find.
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- When we hit CNN
with "Parts Unknown,"
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the show really manifested,
truly,
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into what it wanted to be.
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- Welcome to my life.
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Actual content, B-roll,
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dick jokes, meal scene...
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Did I say dick jokes?
Diarrhea.
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Where do we come from?
How does it all work?
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How far can we go?
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What are we, as sentient
humans, capable of?
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- And it's funny, man.
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It's not until someone's gone
that you really,
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really try to understand
what made them tick.
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And what made
Tony Bourdain tick?
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He talked a lot
about being on the move,
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and I think that Tony,
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you know,
honestly, like a shark,
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needed to be on the move
all the time.
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And it wasn't that he was
running from something;
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he was always running
toward something.
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- Antarctica was, you know,
it was the last continent.
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Tony had, I mean,
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literally, I think,
been to the rest of the world.
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There have been some very
intense logistics
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on this show,
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but getting a six-person crew
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to the South Pole
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was one of the hardest.
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- Chilly.
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- It is a long-ass way
down there.
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You know, LAX to, like,
Sydney to Christchurch
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to McMurdo Station
to the South Pole...
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You know, days of travel.
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- My face hurts.
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- After this massive,
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60-hour journey,
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he gets there and says,
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"It really is
the ass end of the world."
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- And walks away.
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That was worth 60 hours.
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- Best line ever.
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- No, you're kidding me, right?
- Take two?
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We don't do take twos.
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No. I want to see one
of those seals fuck a penguin.
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- The show became a vehicle
for him
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to meet some of his heroes,
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for him to kind of live out
some of his own dreams,
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like some of his own,
you know, fantasies.
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- I've had something of
a multi-decade obsession
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with the Congo.
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It's been kind of
a personal dream, if you will,
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to travel the Congo River,
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and now, for better or worse,
I get that chance.
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- There's moments in this series
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where... watching Tony
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truly experiencing something
that's, like, life-changing.
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- It was an extremely selfish
show. It was very selfish.
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He was really out
to please himself,
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and in doing so,
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I think he pleased
a big audience of people.
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- Frankly, this TV show
has become an impediment
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to the smooth operation
of this mission.
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We might have to terminate
your command.
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- So count... how long do
I have to do this?
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- There's this misconception
that directing
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is actually telling someone
what to say.
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- Attempt to manipulate?
- Yes. Direct? No.
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- Can we just put a little
piece of green behind you...
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- No.
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- For ten seconds?
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- You were a director
on a "Parts Unknown" episode
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because you were directing
everything around Tony,
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but you were never
directing Tony.
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- So production vehicles
should not park
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in front of the restaurant.
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Let's let the motorcycles park
in front of the restaurant.
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Did you want to be able
to tell Tony, like, you know,
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"Could you just... God, could you
get to this point, please?
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Because, you know, we really do
want to get to this point."
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- It was all freeform. This is
true documentary filmmaking.
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- I would have about 15
to 30 seconds
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to kind of go
over the main points.
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- Just don't say "action,"
don't say "cut."
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- They actually said "action"
to me on the last shoot.
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They were like, "Action."
No, really.
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So everybody was like this
the whole time. It was like...
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- Probably don't look at him...
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- There were no second takes.
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- If it was really important,
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you could beg or pretend to cry.
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- Get over it, man.
- We'll catch it in post.
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- So "stovepiping." Have you
talked about stovepiping?
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- What's the definition
of "stovepiping"?
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- Well, very much like some of
the questions you're asking.
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- Here's some themes.
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Here's some ideas you might
want to talk about, Tony.
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- "So, isn't this place
da-da-da-da-da-da-da?"
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- You didn't get to do that
with Tony.
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- Hated, hated, hated it.
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- What are you,
stovepiping content now, Jerry?
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- Is that what's happening?
- No, man...
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- Is that what's
happening here, Jerry?
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Has it come to this?
I can't even trust you?
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- If he got the sense
that you were trying
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to sway a conversation
one way or the other
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to get him to say something,
it was a wrap.
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I mean, it was like,
you get the dagger eyes.
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- Or, like,
the inevitable wides,
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which essentially meant
that the scene's over.
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- Go wide. Want to go wide?
- Do you want to go wide?
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Yeah, go wide.
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- He called it.
- What's that?
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- Tony just called it.
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- Well, food was
a brilliant device,
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because interview can just feel
awkward or formal,
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whereas if you share a meal
with somebody,
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it opens up so many doors.
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- The food that we ate
on the road...
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- Yeah, sometimes we got
to eat incredible things.
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- This is the number
one question I get at parties:
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"Did you eat all the stuff
that Tony ate?"
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- It was never awful.
- It could be weird.
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- Skinned lamb head.
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- Like were those sheep balls
really that good?
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- Boar innards.
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- You may throw up a little bit
in your mouth
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while trying to get it down,
but it was never awful.
253
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- I definitely did not eat
all the stuff that Tony ate.
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- Mm. Liver sandwich.
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That's encouraging.
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I offer some to my producer,
and he goes literally running.
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- I did not eat all
the weird things Tony ate.
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I ate a lot of the things
that Tony didn't want to eat.
259
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- On the rare occasion, Tony
would offer us some treats.
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- Helen, do you like this stuff?
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- No, I've never had it.
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- There you go, Helen. Come on.
- We're filming a scene at
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a pojangmacha,
and they had a silkworm stew.
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- She hasn't been here
since she was four years old.
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- Really?
266
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- Yeah.
267
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- The crew obviously meant
a lot to him.
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Yeah, it was a...
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it was a trip
I won't forget, you know?
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- We were his best friends.
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We were the people that were
with him all the time,
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and we, like,
had amazing conversations
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about our favorite movies.
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We would have a conversation
about our favorite movie,
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and we'd try to create an
episode that was based on that.
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So we approached each episode
like a singular film.
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- We all shared a love
of film and music,
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and that stemmed from Tony.
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- I think he drew a lot
of inspiration from music.
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If there's anything
that's comparable to the way
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he worked,
it was punk, essentially.
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- This is a guy who had
just an incredible
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sort of filmic knowledge base
to draw off of.
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- Tony would give us movies
or books,
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and we would often
just run with it.
286
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- We all got to, like,
experiment in each episode.
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- Did we want to shoot that
in a very controlled,
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like something Coppola
would have shot,
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or something
from a '70s Italian film?
290
00:15:50,670 --> 00:15:53,430
- You know, we did this trailer
for the French Alps episode,
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like a John Wick movie trailer.
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- Next shot is of him
like this going...
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Ugh!
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- Why would we do... like,
on CNN we're showing this?
295
00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:08,260
- We did things on the show
that were unbelievable.
296
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- But that can get expensive.
297
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- Are we talking about budgets?
- Next question.
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- What's a budget?
- Tony had no concept
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- of what our budgets were like.
- Budgets?
300
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- Tony didn't...
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- He didn't know
what a budget was.
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- No, Tony never thought
about budgets.
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- No.
- No.
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- No.
- No.
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- It was...
- No. No.
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- Not for a second.
- How much is it?
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Is it expensive enough?
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- Yeah.
- Oh, yeah!
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- You know, the budget
only stayed at a certain level,
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but the creative push...
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- Was greater.
- It was greater.
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- When I first started working
on these shows,
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it's essentially a... ah, a case
and a half of gear per person.
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This has gradually
changed over time.
315
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- We would carry 30
cases of equipment with us.
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- The strangest thing
I've ever expensed?
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I can't really talk about it.
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- Camera bodies, lenses
for said camera,
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- monitors for the cameras...
- Okay.
320
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Let me just see
how many lines this is.
321
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,056
- You can't necessarily get
a receipt for the goat
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you just sacrificed.
323
00:17:04,570 --> 00:17:07,150
- Will CNN accept an endangered
species receipt?
324
00:17:07,190 --> 00:17:09,810
- Scrim Jim kits,
clamp adaptors,
325
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oh, the magic gadget, 240-volt
quick dimmer, a little pillow.
326
00:17:13,530 --> 00:17:15,306
- "Should we really be spending
that much on an alpaca?"
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I was like, "Well, I don't know.
328
00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:19,196
How much does an alpaca cost
in this part of the world?"
329
00:17:19,220 --> 00:17:22,220
- 15-millimeter rods,
19-millimeter rods,
330
00:17:22,260 --> 00:17:26,670
Dana Dollies, um...
gosh, where does it end.
331
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- We brought a lot of stuff
to make it look pretty.
332
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- I think it was really
about trying to achieve...
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Accomplish what he wanted.
334
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I mean, he knew
that he was lucky
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to have this opportunity
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to do these things,
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and so we were always trying
to do it within our budget.
338
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- So the Miami episode,
I got one note from Tony.
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He's like, "'The Great Beauty.'
Watch it."
340
00:18:07,740 --> 00:18:09,740
- That party scene in that movie
341
00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:14,840
is absolutely extraordinary
and massive in scale.
342
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,640
- We have a certain amount
of money to make the show,
343
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and that's, like, a high,
high production value,
344
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so, you know, immediately,
the mind's like,
345
00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:24,080
"How are we gonna do this?"
346
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,840
- There's a scene with a woman
dancing in "The Great Beauty,"
347
00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,220
and so we needed to kind of
articulate this idea.
348
00:18:38,260 --> 00:18:41,190
- Moe, kind of the burliest
of our cameramen, is, like,
349
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directing this, like, dancer
who's dancing in a window.
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You know, she's, like,
beautiful, long hair,
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and she's, like,
doing this dance,
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00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:51,190
and it's not quite as, like,
exaggerated as Moe wants,
353
00:18:51,220 --> 00:18:52,476
so there's this shot of,
like, Moe
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sort of going back
into the window
355
00:18:55,740 --> 00:18:57,120
with her and, like,
356
00:18:57,150 --> 00:19:00,260
flipping his not-hair,
like, you know, back
357
00:19:00,290 --> 00:19:03,050
and, like,
just doing this whole thing.
358
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,050
- I think it actually worked
pretty well, considering.
359
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,500
- I don't know.
- You look at that,
360
00:19:07,530 --> 00:19:09,430
and it's hilarious,
first of all,
361
00:19:09,460 --> 00:19:11,576
but then it's, like, it really
points at the passion, right?
362
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,710
And you look at that... we
actually pulled this thing off.
363
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,640
- Say when, boys.
- We're up? Roger?
364
00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:47,530
- Caught in a landslide.
365
00:19:47,570 --> 00:19:49,710
- We're gonna freeze out here
like rats tonight.
366
00:19:53,740 --> 00:19:58,260
- Tony lives, on camera
and off camera,
367
00:19:58,290 --> 00:20:00,220
a magical, magical journey.
368
00:20:02,740 --> 00:20:06,290
And there was chaos swirling
around him at all times.
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00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:13,430
- We lived and died
with what can go wrong...
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00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:16,150
- Will go wrong.
- Things went wrong.
371
00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:19,120
- Okay.
372
00:20:19,150 --> 00:20:21,220
- On the one side,
you have control.
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On the other side,
you have chaos.
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00:20:24,150 --> 00:20:25,640
And always between control
375
00:20:25,670 --> 00:20:27,290
and chaos is where
the show is moving.
376
00:20:27,330 --> 00:20:31,080
- Sometimes, it collapses.
377
00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:32,150
- Tony, get down.
378
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,050
Went to...
379
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,500
- Political unrest.
- Political...
380
00:20:38,530 --> 00:20:40,150
- Bird flu.
- Then there's leptospirosis,
381
00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:41,816
which is an infection
carried by rat urine.
382
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,460
- I mean, every shoot
had things go wrong.
383
00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:46,330
- I think it was... yeah,
it was Shanghai.
384
00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:47,840
- My heartbeat is, like,
385
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,640
going up right now
even thinking about it.
386
00:20:49,670 --> 00:20:52,810
- We decided to visit
the tallest building in Iran.
387
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,330
- Within a minute or two,
388
00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:56,600
we were completely crushed
by this sandstorm,
389
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,810
obviously ruining the scene.
We're all running inside.
390
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,260
- Onchocerciasis, ooh,
aka river blindness.
391
00:21:02,290 --> 00:21:04,306
- The chance of, like,
a government shutting me down.
392
00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:06,740
- Earthquake, train wreck.
393
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:09,360
- The whole building starts
moving like this,
394
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,330
pieces of the roof ripping off.
395
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:12,740
- Step away from the glass.
396
00:21:12,770 --> 00:21:15,260
- Jaundice, liver function
problems,
397
00:21:15,290 --> 00:21:17,400
and something called "man flu."
398
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:20,400
- We landed on the ground,
and I met the fixer.
399
00:21:20,430 --> 00:21:22,400
She said,
"Great to meet you guys.
400
00:21:22,430 --> 00:21:24,400
Also, Josh,
everyone has cancelled."
401
00:21:24,430 --> 00:21:26,460
- Oh, and we got
all our gear stolen.
402
00:21:37,770 --> 00:21:40,150
- There was something
about "Parts Unknown,"
403
00:21:40,190 --> 00:21:42,670
and I think it was just
the nature of the show,
404
00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:47,360
that embraced chaos.
405
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,530
- If there wasn't this element
of chaos and intensity
406
00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:53,570
to the shoots,
then, I don't know,
407
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,190
there just... there was
408
00:21:55,220 --> 00:21:57,530
some intangible energy
that came from that.
409
00:21:57,570 --> 00:22:01,570
- Without a doubt, we succeeded
at the ability
410
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,840
to quickly veer off Plan A
411
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,400
and find our way to Plan F
412
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:10,220
and make something of it.
413
00:22:10,260 --> 00:22:13,400
That's why the show was good.
414
00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:26,050
- All right, are you up?
- Are you filming?
415
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,460
The music has started.
416
00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:29,840
I guess that means it's time
417
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,530
to get all killy
in this motherfucker.
418
00:22:33,570 --> 00:22:35,080
- Borneo is another example
419
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,290
of everything
going absolutely wrong.
420
00:22:37,330 --> 00:22:41,360
Tony's supposed to dispatch
this pig with a big spear.
421
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,840
- They've got a pig stuck
in a wooden, like,
422
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,600
box that looked like it had
never been opened...
423
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,050
- And it's raining some more,
424
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,150
and we're rolling,
waiting on a pig.
425
00:22:59,810 --> 00:23:02,360
Oh, my God. Where's the pig?
426
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,080
- It's coming? Is it arriving
by magical package?
427
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,120
Is it arriving by unicorn?
428
00:23:15,290 --> 00:23:17,220
- Someone translate,
429
00:23:17,260 --> 00:23:18,686
'cause he's wondering
what the fuck's going on.
430
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:20,640
- Tom's on the walkie screaming,
431
00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:22,080
sitting next to Tony, saying,
432
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:23,810
"Where's the pig?
Where's the pig?"
433
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,120
I'm up in a totally different
section of the village,
434
00:23:26,150 --> 00:23:28,430
and since it was in the middle
of a torrential downpour,
435
00:23:28,460 --> 00:23:30,330
the pig escaped immediately.
436
00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:37,740
- Oh, you're joking, right?
437
00:23:40,670 --> 00:23:42,330
The pig escaped?
438
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,810
- It was so intense.
439
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,080
I don't think I've ever seen
Tony look more pissed,
440
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:02,190
and when he has
a spear in his hand,
441
00:24:02,220 --> 00:24:03,820
that's not the look
that you want to see.
442
00:24:06,190 --> 00:24:07,710
- It was pretty awful, actually,
443
00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:10,570
but fun and awful,
sort of the same thing.
444
00:24:14,460 --> 00:24:16,400
- Where is he now?
445
00:24:16,430 --> 00:24:19,400
- Okay, copy. Thank you.
- They caught the pig in a net,
446
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:23,500
and now they're tying it up,
so it'll be here very soon.
447
00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:25,220
- That's, like, 15 minutes away.
448
00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:27,080
Yeah.
449
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,220
You ever tried to drag a
struggling pig down to a river?
450
00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:40,570
- All right, travel minute
right now. One, two, three.
451
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,260
- Ah, the travel minute.
- Travel minute.
452
00:24:43,290 --> 00:24:45,710
- The travel minute essentially
was an extra deliverable
453
00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:47,290
that CNN wanted...
454
00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:49,120
- Almost like a preview
of the show.
455
00:24:49,150 --> 00:24:52,150
- Indonesia. New Jersey.
- Asturias. Japan.
456
00:24:52,190 --> 00:24:54,810
- He would basically distill
457
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,710
and encapsulate
a place in a minute.
458
00:24:57,740 --> 00:24:59,020
- The Scottish islands,
459
00:24:59,050 --> 00:25:01,400
one of the most savagely
beautiful places on Earth.
460
00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:03,080
- It was like his absolute... like
461
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,150
the antithesis
of what he was all about.
462
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:06,600
- He hated these.
463
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,220
- Tropical wonderland.
464
00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:13,840
The beaches.
Did I mention the beaches?
465
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,330
- Tony was a little hesitant.
- It's only a travel minute.
466
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:18,500
You can't encourage them
with quality.
467
00:25:18,530 --> 00:25:21,120
- It promotes the show.
- It's for us.
468
00:25:21,150 --> 00:25:22,770
It's not, like, a snap-in
469
00:25:22,810 --> 00:25:25,260
that nobody's ever gonna see
except in Romania.
470
00:25:25,290 --> 00:25:27,810
- Here we go. Travel minute.
471
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,126
All nonessential
personnel can leave.
472
00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:30,640
- Set up the shot.
473
00:25:30,670 --> 00:25:32,290
He starts talking about Uruguay.
474
00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:34,290
This guy comes out
of the background
475
00:25:34,330 --> 00:25:35,740
just dragging a garbage can.
476
00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:37,400
- I fell in love
with this place.
477
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:39,330
I fell in love
with it first day.
478
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:42,530
- Tony's like, "How's that?"
- and I'm like, "You know..."
479
00:25:42,570 --> 00:25:44,530
Yeah, I got it,
but in the background,
480
00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:46,460
I got a guy dragging
a trash can.
481
00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:47,740
- Perfect. Yes!
- I got...
482
00:25:47,770 --> 00:25:48,810
- Yes! Those are the kind
483
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,460
of production values
we like, Todd.
484
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,220
- Okay.
485
00:25:52,260 --> 00:25:54,840
- "Perfect metaphor
for these travel minutes."
486
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,740
- Now fuck off. Thanks.
- That was it.
487
00:25:57,770 --> 00:25:59,710
- That's what you've been
complaining
488
00:25:59,740 --> 00:26:01,400
- about for, like, an hour?
- Yeah.
489
00:26:01,430 --> 00:26:03,770
It's my integrity, man.
490
00:26:03,810 --> 00:26:07,190
- But you phoned that in.
- Yeah, but I still feel
491
00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:08,670
like I'm jacking off a hobo.
492
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,430
- Conventions of
television-making
493
00:26:18,460 --> 00:26:22,050
had to leave the room,
494
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,640
and it was actually
really wonderful
495
00:26:24,670 --> 00:26:28,570
to find ways to work
around those parameters.
496
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:34,260
- The great thing about this
series is that you're given
497
00:26:34,290 --> 00:26:38,150
this unbelievable support
structure to take chances.
498
00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:47,400
- Doing the same thing every
week was frightening to him,
499
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:49,290
and I think it was always
a challenge, like,
500
00:26:49,330 --> 00:26:53,500
can you take this idea,
which may seem shocking,
501
00:26:53,530 --> 00:26:58,500
and actually, you know, convey
it in a very artistic way?
502
00:26:58,530 --> 00:27:02,260
- As long as we could get it
past standards and practices...
503
00:27:02,290 --> 00:27:05,220
- The Tokyo episode is
a great example of that.
504
00:27:05,260 --> 00:27:08,430
- Yeah. I had no idea
what tentacle porn was, so...
505
00:27:13,460 --> 00:27:16,770
- This is the first season
with CNN,
506
00:27:16,810 --> 00:27:21,600
and they were surprised
at what we brought back.
507
00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:26,840
- There was spitting in
the mouth, nipple clamps.
508
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,150
You know, there were
a lot of things that
509
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:32,810
CNN wouldn't normally
put on the air.
510
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,220
- I think we didn't know
kind of where the boundaries
511
00:27:35,260 --> 00:27:38,080
and limits were.
I think CNN didn't know either.
512
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:52,476
- If he thought your shows
were mediocre,
513
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,330
that was the end.
514
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,166
There was no... I think
that was, like, the magic
515
00:27:56,190 --> 00:27:57,546
of the show too, is, like,
it just pushed all of us
516
00:27:57,570 --> 00:28:01,220
to, like, do something weird,
517
00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:04,150
like the Korea episode.
518
00:28:05,570 --> 00:28:08,740
- The camera department
was really given free rein.
519
00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:09,880
- Zach and Todd decided
520
00:28:09,910 --> 00:28:12,190
to come up
with this new camera system.
521
00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:14,840
- So these cameras,
they were very small,
522
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,840
which you'd think would be
great, except it...
523
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,020
- Had to be attached
to a giant backpack.
524
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,360
- We looked like
the Ghostbusters.
525
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,080
- At that point in time,
that's all we had,
526
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,120
but it was breakthrough
for what it was.
527
00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:32,530
- Tony found them innovative.
528
00:28:32,570 --> 00:28:35,260
He was excited about
how it was different.
529
00:28:35,290 --> 00:28:38,150
But, like, you know, he made
some crude jokes about it.
530
00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:40,770
- Those cameras
are too fucking tiny.
531
00:28:40,810 --> 00:28:42,376
These cameras do not get
a lot of respect,
532
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,810
I got to tell you right now.
533
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,260
Do you really need
the glove for that?
534
00:28:47,670 --> 00:28:50,710
No. You know what? It adds
no authority to this process.
535
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,926
- You're up?
- Yeah, 2,500, correct?
536
00:28:55,950 --> 00:28:58,220
- Yeah, 2,500 ISO, 32...
- Oh, right.
537
00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:01,500
- Happy to be back in Italy?
- Oh, I'll talk soon.
538
00:29:01,530 --> 00:29:04,020
Don't worry. I want to have
food in front of me.
539
00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:08,190
- I think shooting-wise,
540
00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:11,120
I always really enjoyed
the solo scenes.
541
00:29:11,150 --> 00:29:12,166
- Oh, fucking hell, that's good.
542
00:29:12,190 --> 00:29:13,640
- Solo scene is what we would do
543
00:29:13,670 --> 00:29:15,120
when we ran out of good ideas.
544
00:29:15,150 --> 00:29:17,050
We would put him
in front of food
545
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,166
and hope he would say
something amazing,
546
00:29:18,190 --> 00:29:20,190
but the truth is,
a lot of times,
547
00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:21,576
he'd just talk shit
on whoever was directing.
548
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600
- Think of all the opportunity
for practical jokes
549
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,190
with the vipers.
550
00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:27,770
Note to self:
buy rubber snake for Jeff.
551
00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:29,430
- Solo scenes with Tony,
they worked,
552
00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:31,640
and it was a fantastic
opportunity for Tony
553
00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:33,330
to just unload.
554
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,686
- I'm not suggesting there
are anal glands
555
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:36,360
in a chicken nugget, but...
556
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600
- I mean, here was a guy
in Tony Bourdain,
557
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,360
the master of the monologue.
Man, that guy could talk.
558
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,810
- He was just trying to make us
behind the camera laugh.
559
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,120
- He would kind of deliver
a line
560
00:29:48,150 --> 00:29:50,740
and kind of peer over the camera
561
00:29:50,770 --> 00:29:53,220
to see what kind of reaction
he would get.
562
00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:55,840
- I hate mascots.
563
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,400
You know they fart
in those suits.
564
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:58,710
- Like, at one point,
565
00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:00,190
I think one of the editors said,
566
00:30:00,220 --> 00:30:02,460
"You know,
the camera's moving a lot,"
567
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:04,770
and I'm thinking, "Well,
it's because I'm laughing."
568
00:30:04,810 --> 00:30:06,600
This guy,
he would start riffing,
569
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,430
and we would just fall apart.
It was amazing.
570
00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:12,220
- It was as close a glimpse
571
00:30:12,260 --> 00:30:16,150
as you could get to our
relationship with him.
572
00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:23,570
- One of the great things
about going to Japan
573
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,810
is Lawson's.
574
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,050
We had, you know, the greatest
intention to go to Lawson's
575
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,120
and eat an egg sandwich,
a little solo meal,
576
00:30:31,150 --> 00:30:35,190
Tony out on the street eating
his beloved egg sandwich.
577
00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:36,746
- We don't talk about
the Lawson's incident,
578
00:30:36,770 --> 00:30:39,640
because it's
an ongoing investigation.
579
00:30:39,670 --> 00:30:41,600
- What is it exactly
about this place
580
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:47,220
that's got its tentacles so
deep into my heart and my soul?
581
00:30:48,460 --> 00:30:53,120
- The coup de gras,
the golden goose of sandwiches
582
00:30:53,150 --> 00:30:55,430
at Lawson's is the egg salad
sandwich,
583
00:30:55,460 --> 00:30:59,360
the fluffy egg salad sandwich.
It's a masterpiece.
584
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080
- Where are you? I know
you're around here somewhere.
585
00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:12,080
Wait a minute.
I see potato and egg.
586
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,120
Where's the 100% egg?
Where's the egg salad?
587
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:22,260
No, really.
Where is the egg salad?
588
00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:26,570
- There were no egg salads
of Tony's preference.
589
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,330
- Five minutes before, there
were, like, six egg sandwiches.
590
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,640
- To be fair,
that was my responsibility.
591
00:31:32,670 --> 00:31:35,330
- And things deteriorated
quickly.
592
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,746
- Where are the egg
salad sandwiches?
593
00:31:36,770 --> 00:31:38,600
- They were in there.
594
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,686
- No, there are potato and egg
salad sandwiches in there.
595
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:44,330
Potato, ham, and egg.
596
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,670
You couldn't possibly
have bungled that...
597
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:49,120
- Ooh.
- Could you?
598
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,290
- What can you say?
- Sometimes we fuck up.
599
00:31:56,330 --> 00:31:58,840
- It became... it became frantic.
600
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,740
- I was effusively going on
and on and on
601
00:32:01,770 --> 00:32:05,460
about how I can live
without prostitutes and heroin,
602
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,530
but that the egg salad
sandwiches at Lawson,
603
00:32:08,570 --> 00:32:10,050
this is the one thing
604
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,120
I can't... what would you call it?
605
00:32:12,150 --> 00:32:17,120
The raison d'être of this scene
seems to have either evaporated
606
00:32:17,150 --> 00:32:20,460
or possibly never existed, Josh.
607
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:22,530
- Yeah, I'm... I'm...
- I understand.
608
00:32:22,570 --> 00:32:24,740
I mean, when you want
an egg sandwich
609
00:32:24,770 --> 00:32:26,740
and you expect an egg sandwich,
610
00:32:26,770 --> 00:32:28,600
an egg sandwich should be there,
611
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,910
so I get it, but...
612
00:32:34,770 --> 00:32:36,330
- I don't ask a lot, Josh.
613
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,530
But really, there's one thing
I do need, Josh.
614
00:32:39,570 --> 00:32:46,290
One thing I need desperately,
and that is uncut, 100% pure,
615
00:32:46,330 --> 00:32:52,710
fluffy pillows of love...
The egg salad from Lawson.
616
00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:54,640
That's why we're here.
617
00:32:54,670 --> 00:32:58,220
- It was why we're here.
- Well, luckily, in Okinawa,
618
00:32:58,260 --> 00:33:01,150
there's a Lawson's
on every other block,
619
00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:03,120
so we have a crew member...
620
00:33:03,150 --> 00:33:06,670
- An island-wide dragnet needs
to be established right away.
621
00:33:09,530 --> 00:33:11,150
What is he gonna...
622
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:13,360
- He's...
- Is he gonna score egg salad
623
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,220
on the street?
624
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:21,460
Prior preparation
prevents piss-poor performance.
625
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:25,220
We're doing an egg salad scene.
Is there egg salad?
626
00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:27,640
Look at this... highly
trained professionals
627
00:33:27,670 --> 00:33:29,670
fanning out across Naha
628
00:33:29,710 --> 00:33:35,080
in search of egg
salad sandwiches.
629
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,220
And I say good luck with that,
630
00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:40,640
because they're amazingly
popular, and for a reason.
631
00:33:40,670 --> 00:33:44,770
- There was, like, a harrowing
and frantic run down the street
632
00:33:44,810 --> 00:33:48,080
to the next adjacent Lawson's
633
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,840
to try to find
the correct sandwich.
634
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,166
- Is this the egg salad?
- This is...
635
00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:53,710
- Yes.
- This is an egg salad.
636
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:55,740
- Go for Josh. Go for Josh.
637
00:33:55,770 --> 00:33:59,260
- This is a crushing,
a crushing disappointment.
638
00:34:01,810 --> 00:34:05,840
My heart sank.
My heart sank like a stone.
639
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,770
- We all felt that moment.
- I got faith in Josh.
640
00:34:09,810 --> 00:34:13,080
He's got a lot at stake here.
641
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,570
I think that
he's gonna come through.
642
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,080
- Yeah, I got a lot of faith
in him too.
643
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,400
And a lot of faith in Idi Amin
and Present Mobutu,
644
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:24,640
before they drove
whole nations into the ground.
645
00:34:24,670 --> 00:34:28,840
Because this is a monstrous
abrogation of our relationship
646
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,220
and the trust,
647
00:34:32,260 --> 00:34:34,500
the bond of friendship
and professionalism
648
00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:36,530
that we all share.
649
00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:41,500
I'm not saying I'm disappointed
more like devastated.
650
00:34:41,530 --> 00:34:44,500
I'm waiting for my man,
$26 in my hand.
651
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,260
- Tony, so, they stopped
packaging
652
00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:54,710
the egg salad sandwiches
in whole containers,
653
00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:59,290
so it's split with
a tuna sandwich as well,
654
00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:02,150
but the egg salad
is still there.
655
00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:04,260
- They're... my eggs
are commingling with tuna?
656
00:35:04,290 --> 00:35:06,260
- Yes.
657
00:35:06,290 --> 00:35:08,190
- You can't actually bring
outside food in there
658
00:35:08,220 --> 00:35:10,460
and put it on their shelves,
659
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:12,306
and then we'll pretend that
I'm actually finding these.
660
00:35:12,330 --> 00:35:14,120
Was that your hideous plan?
661
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:15,600
- Well, it wasn't
a hideous plan.
662
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,406
- Okay. Go do that,
and then they'll never know.
663
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:20,220
- Fantastic.
664
00:35:20,260 --> 00:35:21,640
- So we're paying two
665
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:24,840
different Lawson's
for the same sandwich.
666
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:30,020
Oh, look. How fortunate.
I'll take all three of you.
667
00:35:39,150 --> 00:35:41,530
Worst scene ever.
668
00:35:49,220 --> 00:35:50,576
- Your question about,
"Was it fun?"
669
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,150
is, like,
a really good question,
670
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:55,260
because "fun" is a word that,
like,
671
00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:57,770
I wouldn't think about,
necessarily, for the show.
672
00:35:57,810 --> 00:36:01,810
Was the job fun? Was it fun?
673
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,640
- I wouldn't call it fun.
674
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:09,640
We had fun.
675
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:11,640
- We were deep into Iran.
676
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:13,330
- I'm in a bar
in the Philippines...
677
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,740
- And the Basij held us
for a day.
678
00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:17,500
- Filming a cover band.
679
00:36:17,530 --> 00:36:19,740
- 13 years later,
now I'm pinching myself.
680
00:36:19,770 --> 00:36:21,710
- Three beers deep...
681
00:36:21,740 --> 00:36:25,740
- Does having the experience of
your life and of your career,
682
00:36:25,770 --> 00:36:28,260
like, fall under
the category of fun?
683
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:29,840
- There were moments
of fun for sure.
684
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,220
- Are there any local militias
we can befriend?
685
00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:34,570
- Is, like, playing kickball
your definition of fun?
686
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,220
You know what I mean?
687
00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:37,646
- The back-bending that
the camera guys
688
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:39,080
and the producers...
689
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,810
- Not that much sleep.
690
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,460
- The constant sort of, like,
"What is Tony gonna think?"
691
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:46,330
- If that falls into
the category of "fun,"
692
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,600
then the answer is yes.
If your definition of fun is,
693
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,710
like, easygoing
and, like, everyone's smiling,
694
00:36:51,740 --> 00:36:54,430
and, like, having a great time
and, like,
695
00:36:54,460 --> 00:36:57,640
can write home about it,
then no, it wasn't fun.
696
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:59,710
- You know, when I think back
on those early days
697
00:36:59,740 --> 00:37:04,150
and I do remember that joy and
the laughter and the heartache
698
00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:05,740
and everything
that went on there,
699
00:37:05,770 --> 00:37:11,080
if I need to feel that again,
that joy, I go back,
700
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,430
and when I look at
the Waffle House scene...
701
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,570
- So what I love about
this scene is, again,
702
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,710
that Tony is truly experiencing
something new and unexpected.
703
00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:25,430
- You know what I know?
704
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:27,840
I don't want waffles
at the Waffle House.
705
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,570
- Bullshit, man.
706
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,640
- You have to have...
- Waffles?
707
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:34,530
Pecan waffle.
708
00:37:34,570 --> 00:37:36,290
- Really?
709
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:43,770
- You get it in many episodes,
but this one in particular.
710
00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:47,360
That was very,
very authentic Tony.
711
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,120
- You know what "umami"
means in Japanese?
712
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:53,220
Actually, literally, it means,
"I will
713
00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:55,740
"[...] your [...] for a bite
of that...
714
00:37:58,530 --> 00:38:00,600
- That burger."
715
00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:24,570
- Tony had so many different
sides to his personality.
716
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,670
I mean, he could be tough,
he could be a raconteur,
717
00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:32,190
he could also be
incredibly kind, big-hearted,
718
00:38:32,220 --> 00:38:33,570
and emotional person,
719
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,570
sometimes all in
the same interaction,
720
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,740
which was sort of crazy.
721
00:38:38,770 --> 00:38:41,120
I remember in our
Philippines episode,
722
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:44,050
Tony joins for a family meal.
723
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,080
- The family scenes were some
of the most magical moments
724
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,360
that we captured in the show.
725
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,150
One of the most
incredible ones for me
726
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:56,260
was with my grandmother,
727
00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:59,810
a Filipino woman named
Aurora Medina who raised me.
728
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,716
- And this is, I think,
the first Christmas Aurora
729
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:05,530
has been back in
the Philippines in 40 years.
730
00:39:05,570 --> 00:39:07,530
- After the meal,
Aurora came over to Tony
731
00:39:07,570 --> 00:39:09,600
and started singing
"Edelweiss."
732
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,430
- This is the song
that she sang to Eric
733
00:39:12,460 --> 00:39:15,150
as she was changing his
diapers, I believe, you know?
734
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,710
- Edelweiss
735
00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:23,260
Edelweiss
736
00:39:23,290 --> 00:39:27,080
Every morning
737
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,770
I greet you
738
00:39:30,810 --> 00:39:35,220
- And everyone
is pretty emotional.
739
00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:37,430
- It was one of the few
moments that I saw Tony,
740
00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:39,050
you know, start to tear up.
741
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,220
- Edelweiss...
742
00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:43,640
- You can see,
if you look closely,
743
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:46,770
you can see Tony
totally tearing up.
744
00:39:46,810 --> 00:39:51,080
He's just on the verge of
crying, which he doesn't do.
745
00:39:51,570 --> 00:39:55,770
- Forever
746
00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:04,500
- Yeah. It was really special
to see Tony that vulnerable
747
00:40:04,530 --> 00:40:06,220
and to see Tony, you know,
748
00:40:06,260 --> 00:40:09,710
connecting with someone
as beautiful
749
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:13,530
and, you know,
selfless as Aurora.
750
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,190
- The show itself was, like,
a tremendous gift.
751
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,190
We got to work with somebody
who was incredibly creative,
752
00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:35,080
obviously,
but also let us experiment.
753
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,840
- The amazing thing about it
is that the challenge
754
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,330
has never stopped any of us.
We've met these...
755
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,220
I don't want to say
"we met these challenges."
756
00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:51,640
These challenges have fucking
inspired us to great things.
757
00:40:59,810 --> 00:41:04,150
- He said to Chris and I,
"This show is my legacy."
758
00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:06,120
He said, "That's why
I'm so hard on you guys."
759
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:09,330
You know, "Every show, I want
it to be better than the next."
760
00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:16,460
- It really was the adventure
of a lifetime.
761
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,460
And that's not making an excuse
762
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:24,220
for his dickish behavior,
763
00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:28,080
'cause he was certainly...
Could certainly be a dick.
764
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,220
But he was our dick.
765
00:42:30,770 --> 00:42:33,050
- Should we start drinking now?
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