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Seattle, a city with
a collective identity
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constantly in flux,
always changing,
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but what it's always been
and continues to be
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is a magnet for creators to
come experiment
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and to make their own.
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Whoa, and weed is legal here.
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♪ I took a walk
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♪ Through this beautiful world
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♪ Felt the cool rain
on my shoulder
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♪ Found something good
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♪ In this beautiful world
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♪ I felt the rain
getting colder
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♪ Sha la la-la-la
♪ Sha la la-la-la-la
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♪ Sha la la-la-la
♪ Sha la la-la-la-la la
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Seattle has always been a place
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where you can go
to reinvent yourself.
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It's a place that,
on the surface,
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would seem to require
commitment.
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Famously gray, rainy, not
particularly friendly,
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and all the way up there
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in the far corner
of the country,
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a place where you could get
work in the aircraft industry
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or make music
or, rather notoriously,
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become a serial killer.
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Whether outfitting prospectors
during the Alaskan gold rush
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or looking for some kind of
cred from the music scene...
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it's always boom or bust.
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Now, it's a new kind of boom.
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Microsoft, Google, Twitter,
Expedia, and Amazon
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are the big dogs in town.
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A flood of them,
tech industry workers,
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mostly male,
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derisively referred to
as tech boys or tech bros,
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rapidly changing the DNA
of the city,
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rewiring it to satisfy
their own newly empowered
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nerdly appetites.
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Meet our new apple
martini-drinking overlords.
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- Tech boys
- Tech boys
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Tech boys Tech boys - Tech boys
- Tech boys
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- Tech boys
- Tech boys
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With your mustache
and your paycheck
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And your blue badge
And your limp dick
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With your mouth full
of the party line
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And your weekends
working overtime
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Overtime, overtime,
overtime, overtime
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Fish and chips is
the thing, right?
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- That's the thing.
- Yeah.
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Astra Elane and Dustin Patterson
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are members of the local band
The Gods Themselves.
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They wrote a song
about the new kids in town.
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Okay.
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Pacific Inn Pub is a holdout,
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a place that has, so far,
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managed to resist the temptation
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to appease the invaders.
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For lunch, fish and chips.
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Tech boys
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You know, bitter old...
like me, of course,
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are gonna complain any time
we hear about, you know,
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a lot of high-fiving white guys
coming to town.
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And yet, you've created this
sort of iconic hate anthem
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Can you tell the tech people
from the non-tech people?
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Yeah, they have the badges.
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Tech boys Neutral-colored
clothing.
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Tech boys
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They're kind of easy to spot.
They have a walk.
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- They have a walk?
- Yeah.
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They're just all the same.
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There's nothing that
really stands out about them.
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They're so dull.
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Feel that rhythm that algorithm
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You gotta feel that rhythm
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That algorithm tech boys
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You know, dating apps
are really big here.
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I have a few girlfriends...
That's right.
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Who have dated
a couple of tech boys.
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Is their personal
hygiene an issue?
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Like, the nerdier tech
boys will have that smell,
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that mildewy smell.
Yeah.
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You know what I'm talking about?
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Wow, you really have
a low opinion of these people.
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Well, we're generalizing
now, Tony.
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No, I'm all for that.
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Everybody in Seattle
is a musician,
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a serial killer, or a chef
as far as I'm concerned so...
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In a lot of ways, I mean,
this was always a company town.
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You know, Boeing, before
Boeing, it was a logging town.
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And the new company is tech,
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and it is flooding money
into the place.
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I looked out my hotel window
and, I mean,
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it's cranes as far as
the eye can see.
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You realize, like, okay,
all those cranes out there,
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they're for
high-rise condos.
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They're for a certain
type of person.
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They're envisioning a certain
type of future for the city
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and it's tech people.
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Or, you know, somebody
who likes to drive around
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and pick up hitchhikers
and dismember them.
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Yeah.
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Capitol Hill is Seattle's
established gay-borhood
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going back to
the mid-1960s,
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old-school cool,
but with every passing day,
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change.
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The Hill has become the new
weekend stomping ground
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of breeders from
the tech companies,
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and the locals are displeased.
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John Criscitello, street artist,
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is waging a one-man war
against the rent hikes
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that are pushing people like
him out of the neighborhood.
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Are we talking about
an infestation of tech bros?
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Is this...
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What, ten years ago, would
this be a gay neighborhood?
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It was sort of unclaimed
for artists
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and for queer people.
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And so what's happening now?
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Big tech corporations that
have moved into the city
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and people needed someplace to
live, so a lot of
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development companies
bought up every corner.
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If they keep this sort of
facade, they can build taller.
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- Ah.
- So this was just this
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and then they plunked this
down in the center of it.
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So they're keeping the
character of the neighborhood
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sort of kind of.
They call it facadomy.
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I've heard it termed facadomy.
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The problem, of course,
is that rents double.
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- Right.
- So you used to be able
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to get a studio
apartment for $700.
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Now, all of a sudden
the entry point is $1,500,
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which is considerable for
artists, anybody.
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You know, that's
the sort of lament now is,
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where are you gonna go?
Where are you gonna go?
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- Yeah.
- Where are you gonna go?
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Right.
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So all these outsiders coming in
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are renting
expensive apartments.
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What kind of businesses
are opening to accommodate
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these new arrivals?
Well, in this neighborhood,
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that construction over on
that side is a Whole Foods.
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Oh, no, that's a sign
of the apocalypse.
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- That is the end.
- That... that's the official
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indicator that
this neighborhood is...
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That is the end.
That's it right there.
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Because of the boom
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and everything
that's been happening,
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you do have that kind of have
and have nots here.
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And I think there's
an identity crisis
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where people are starting to
really question
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what is Seattle and who is it?
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But historically,
you go back to the '90s,
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I mean, it was
the city of grunge.
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And now, I would say
it's the city of geeks.
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It's... it's... it's boom town
right now.
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And yeah, this kind of boom
does happen in other places,
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but then again, it doesn't.
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John Cook and Todd Bishop
of GeekWire,
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an industry-leading news site
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that started covering
the tech industry
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back in 2011.
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Lunch is at Revel right down
the street from their offices.
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The chef is Rachel Yang
and the food is Korean.
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To eat, cilantro noodles,
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yu choy, and thinly sliced
flat iron steak...
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Kimchi pancakes with
braised pork belly
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and bean sprouts...
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Marinated short rib rice bowl
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with house sambal daikon,
kimchi, and egg.
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And short rib dumplings
topped with
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pickled shallot
and scallion salad.
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Of course, I'm hearing from
a lot of people
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who are bemoaning the loss of
the old Seattle...
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Right.
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This invasion of outsiders.
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Certainly the community
is going through
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a lot of growing pains
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and there's an element
of the city here
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that is rebelling
against the progress,
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especially as we talk about
a company like Amazon
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that controls massive amounts
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of the downtown
real estate footprint now.
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And that's what scares
a lot of people here,
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including myself.
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Because I see how the trends
of history change,
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especially in technology,
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that one day Microsoft's hot,
the next day Apple's hot,
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now Amazon's hot.
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They go through these cycles
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and they don't always
live through them,
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and we're left with a city
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that's totally transformed
because of it.
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What percentage of the total
dollar-generating space
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on the Internet
is occupied by porn?
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Well, you know,
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this is Todd's expertise
so I'll defer to him.
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Historically the adult industry,
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even if it's not completely
dominating the economics
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all the time, it is the...
The leader of technology.
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It... it's the first
with HD.
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It's the first to try out
a new wave of 3-D technology.
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Virtual reality,
augmented reality,
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and then you see it
over and over again,
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the latest is VR now.
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Yeah.
Do you know the...
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Do you know the number one
search term on porn websites
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for the Seattle area?
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Stepmom.
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Who wants to...
their stepmom?
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Jesus.
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Jen McEwen and Jesse Adams
are two nice people
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who've chosen the porn business
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as a way to make a living.
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They launched MiKandi,
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the world's first
mobile app store
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for masturbators and aficionados
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of graphic erotica.
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But they are looking ahead,
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the next levels of porn...
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Personalized, interactive,
virtual reality porn.
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I'm gonna tease you.
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And I can tell you, my friends,
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it's chillingly realistic.
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Generally speaking,
who are your customers
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demographically?
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Mostly male, but, yeah, it's
really from all over the world.
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Right.
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They're looking for more
unique experiences
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and I think that's why VR is
very important for them.
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And just also
a lot of people who say
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they discovered their sexuality
and their identity
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through stuff like this.
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What the adult industry
is really good at
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is whatever your
specific interest is,
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we'll find the exact
person for you
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or the exact piece of content.
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Like... like Amazon does.
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- Yeah.
- So, Tony, based on
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your previous purchases,
you know, we can recommend
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the following
stepmom-related materials.
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Yeah.
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Do you want to see some VR porn?
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Oh, my God, here we go.
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Now, should I look behind me?
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'Cause I don't want to get
spit roasted here. Okay.
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Hey there.
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Wow.
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Yeah, that's kinda scary.
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It's good.
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Weed, smoke, ganja, reefer,
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call it what you will,
it's marijuana.
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Oh, I could go on all day.
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Long story short,
Washington State
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legalized weed in 2012,
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and I plan to make
the most of it
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while scrupulously adhering to
the lay of the law
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like I always do.
258
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The options available
in places like this,
259
00:12:54,124 --> 00:12:56,024
Emerald Haze,
are mind-boggling.
260
00:12:58,454 --> 00:12:59,924
Well, how can I
help you out today?
261
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Well, I...
Where to begin?
262
00:13:03,024 --> 00:13:05,494
Where to begin?
263
00:13:05,524 --> 00:13:07,854
There is a dizzying array
of products.
264
00:13:07,894 --> 00:13:09,554
You got dozens of strains
of bud,
265
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oils to vape,
weed-infused edibles,
266
00:13:12,224 --> 00:13:14,354
mints, syrups, ointments,
267
00:13:14,394 --> 00:13:16,494
probably lube.
Remind me to ask.
268
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My advice, don't even try
to shop stoned.
269
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Decision making was never,
in my case, a strong point
270
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while baked.
271
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Which... which...
Which is sleepy...
272
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I forget, is it indica
or sativa that's peppy
273
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and the other one is sleepy?
274
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The indica will put you
"inda" couch.
275
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- On the couch.
- It's gonna be
276
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your sleepy body high.
Right.
277
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Sativa is gonna be more of
your awake alert high
278
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kind of mostly feeling
in the head.
279
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Right, like crouched
in the bathroom
280
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in the fetal position paranoid
or what?
281
00:13:45,094 --> 00:13:46,354
Not like that crazy.
282
00:13:46,394 --> 00:13:47,824
Yeah, no, okay, good.
283
00:13:47,854 --> 00:13:50,024
I think let's do some of both.
284
00:13:50,054 --> 00:13:51,324
- Some of both?
- Yeah.
285
00:13:51,354 --> 00:13:53,424
What do you have on offer here?
286
00:13:53,454 --> 00:13:55,100
We do have a deal on
our pack of three today...
287
00:13:55,124 --> 00:13:57,854
- Mm-hmm.
- From Hollingsworth,
288
00:13:57,894 --> 00:14:01,194
which they had
the Blueberry Kush...
289
00:14:01,224 --> 00:14:02,694
- Yes.
- The Alaskan Thunder...
290
00:14:02,724 --> 00:14:04,694
and then also a Dutch Treat,
291
00:14:04,724 --> 00:14:06,194
which will be more of a hybrid.
292
00:14:06,224 --> 00:14:08,824
I mean, I have to...
Alaskan Thunder...
293
00:14:08,854 --> 00:14:10,094
I mean, you kind have to.
294
00:14:10,124 --> 00:14:11,530
This... this is from
our friends at...
295
00:14:11,554 --> 00:14:14,154
Yeah, these are from
Hollingsworth,
296
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which is very nice.
297
00:14:24,124 --> 00:14:26,094
Two hours outside of Seattle
298
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lies Hollingsworth
Cannabis Company Farm.
299
00:14:28,524 --> 00:14:32,894
The woods are alive
with, well, weed.
300
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Rows and rows of weed
301
00:14:35,724 --> 00:14:39,054
carefully grown and tended to
by one family,
302
00:14:39,094 --> 00:14:42,824
third generation Seattleites
the Hollingsworths.
303
00:14:42,854 --> 00:14:45,824
And at the helm of the
company, these guys,
304
00:14:45,854 --> 00:14:49,824
brother and sister duo,
Raft and Joy Hollingsworth.
305
00:14:49,854 --> 00:14:51,524
Oh, hi!
Didn't see you there.
306
00:14:51,554 --> 00:14:54,324
Wait, hold on.
Oh, hi. Didn't see you there.
307
00:14:54,354 --> 00:14:56,054
- Didn't see you there.
- Let me say that.
308
00:14:56,094 --> 00:14:57,654
Then you say
the rest of the shit.
309
00:14:57,694 --> 00:14:59,854
- No, I can't remember...
- Okay, we're gonna do it.
310
00:14:59,894 --> 00:15:01,000
I'm Joy Hollingsworth.
I got it.
311
00:15:01,024 --> 00:15:02,754
Oh, hi.
Say it, say it.
312
00:15:02,794 --> 00:15:05,654
Let's take a... let's take
a closer look, shall we?
313
00:15:09,694 --> 00:15:11,854
While some corporate outfits
are rushing to cash in
314
00:15:11,894 --> 00:15:14,354
on the new crop, the
Hollingsworth Cannabis Company
315
00:15:14,394 --> 00:15:17,354
is doing it a slower,
more personal way.
316
00:15:17,394 --> 00:15:19,224
Solar-powered greenhouses,
317
00:15:19,254 --> 00:15:21,924
hand-trimmed buds,
and hand-packed bags
318
00:15:21,954 --> 00:15:25,724
ensure the freshest and
highest quality of product.
319
00:15:25,754 --> 00:15:27,554
They're keeping it
all in the family.
320
00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:30,324
Raft runs the manufacturing
and growing.
321
00:15:30,354 --> 00:15:32,824
Joy does the processing
and sales.
322
00:15:32,854 --> 00:15:34,354
Auntie came out of retirement
323
00:15:34,394 --> 00:15:36,024
to assist with
the oil cartridges.
324
00:15:36,054 --> 00:15:38,324
Dad puts labels
on the packaging,
325
00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:40,154
and mom fills the rolls
326
00:15:40,194 --> 00:15:41,854
and assists in
quality control...
327
00:15:41,894 --> 00:15:43,354
That's fine, that's fine.
328
00:15:43,394 --> 00:15:46,324
As I will and have
and will again.
329
00:15:55,224 --> 00:15:59,694
Back in the city, Mamnoon
Restaurant on Melrose.
330
00:15:59,724 --> 00:16:01,324
Have you been here before?
331
00:16:01,354 --> 00:16:04,724
Absolutely.
This is a good spot.
332
00:16:04,754 --> 00:16:06,554
How you doing?
333
00:16:06,594 --> 00:16:08,824
I've been smoking some of
your product,
334
00:16:08,854 --> 00:16:10,254
so if I'm a little unfocused...
335
00:16:12,254 --> 00:16:13,754
Before this you did?
336
00:16:13,794 --> 00:16:16,724
- What's that?
- Before... Before this, yes.
337
00:16:16,754 --> 00:16:18,524
He said, what, what, what, what?
338
00:16:29,194 --> 00:16:30,754
Mamnoon is a modern take
339
00:16:30,794 --> 00:16:32,994
on traditional Syrian
and Lebanese food.
340
00:16:33,024 --> 00:16:35,394
And it's done well.
341
00:16:38,294 --> 00:16:40,994
There's baharat spiced beef
and lamb kebabs...
342
00:16:42,524 --> 00:16:44,554
Fried cauliflower with tahini...
343
00:16:46,454 --> 00:16:49,324
A summer fatteh with local
squash and charred tomatoes
344
00:16:49,354 --> 00:16:53,594
topped with sizzling
brown butter and pine nuts.
345
00:16:53,624 --> 00:16:56,524
That's sweet-and-sour rice
wrapped in grape leaves.
346
00:16:58,624 --> 00:16:59,994
This looks so good.
347
00:17:00,024 --> 00:17:01,894
The hummus is great.
348
00:17:01,924 --> 00:17:03,044
This is my favorite cuisine.
349
00:17:06,094 --> 00:17:08,554
So how's business?
350
00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:10,494
It's been an interesting
three years,
351
00:17:10,524 --> 00:17:12,094
because I feel like every year
352
00:17:12,124 --> 00:17:13,994
we've been, like,
refining the process
353
00:17:14,024 --> 00:17:15,494
and trying to get better.
354
00:17:15,524 --> 00:17:16,830
We're the little guys.
Right now
355
00:17:16,854 --> 00:17:18,524
we're mom-and-pop.
356
00:17:18,554 --> 00:17:20,824
Yeah, we're the mom-and-pop,
but see, the difference is
357
00:17:20,854 --> 00:17:23,254
Washington State set up the law
358
00:17:23,294 --> 00:17:25,324
to try to help mom-and-pops
get started.
359
00:17:25,354 --> 00:17:27,424
How did you convince the family?
360
00:17:27,454 --> 00:17:28,994
- Yeah.
- This must have seemed like
361
00:17:29,024 --> 00:17:31,654
a sketchy venture.
362
00:17:31,694 --> 00:17:33,154
- Yes.
- It was a gamble.
363
00:17:33,194 --> 00:17:34,824
He said, hey,
I got a family meeting.
364
00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:36,994
I need you here tonight.
365
00:17:37,024 --> 00:17:38,370
And we're all sitting there
and he puts on
366
00:17:38,394 --> 00:17:39,924
his little PowerPoint on the TV,
367
00:17:39,954 --> 00:17:42,324
and it's about 32 pages,
and he tells us,
368
00:17:42,354 --> 00:17:44,094
"Hey, we need to go to
Mason County,
369
00:17:44,124 --> 00:17:45,724
grow a ton of weed,"
370
00:17:45,754 --> 00:17:47,530
and we're all like,
what are you talking about?
371
00:17:47,554 --> 00:17:50,094
And my mom raises her hand
and she goes, "Wait,
372
00:17:50,124 --> 00:17:51,724
I have something
really important."
373
00:17:51,754 --> 00:17:54,394
We all look at her and she
goes, "I wanna be R&D.
374
00:17:54,424 --> 00:17:57,554
Can I smoke and tell you
if the weed is good?"
375
00:17:57,594 --> 00:18:00,494
And then all of a sudden
he starts moving.
376
00:18:00,524 --> 00:18:03,094
My business plan ended at
"get a license."
377
00:18:03,124 --> 00:18:05,524
To get a license
it was to build a fence,
378
00:18:05,554 --> 00:18:06,824
put up some cameras...
379
00:18:06,854 --> 00:18:08,394
- Right.
- And get out the way.
380
00:18:08,424 --> 00:18:10,170
Then they'll come,
give you a final inspection,
381
00:18:10,194 --> 00:18:11,400
and now you are licensed
to grow weed
382
00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:13,154
in the State of Washington.
383
00:18:13,194 --> 00:18:14,570
How many people grow weed,
do you think,
384
00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,424
in the Seattle,
Washington State region?
385
00:18:16,454 --> 00:18:18,154
- Oh, yeah, there's a lot.
- There's a lot.
386
00:18:18,194 --> 00:18:20,094
There's over 1,100
producer processers
387
00:18:20,124 --> 00:18:21,524
in Washington State
388
00:18:21,554 --> 00:18:24,894
and about 400 licensed
retail stores.
389
00:18:24,924 --> 00:18:26,654
We... everybody's
going to win.
390
00:18:26,694 --> 00:18:28,830
There's so many people of all
different types that smoke weed.
391
00:18:28,854 --> 00:18:31,594
We did a store visit and we saw
people come in and out,
392
00:18:31,624 --> 00:18:34,254
grandmas, moms, professionals.
393
00:18:34,294 --> 00:18:36,724
Like, I'm sure if that store
took demographics
394
00:18:36,754 --> 00:18:37,994
of their clientele...
Right.
395
00:18:38,024 --> 00:18:39,154
They would have a spectrum
396
00:18:39,194 --> 00:18:40,994
of different type of people.
397
00:18:41,024 --> 00:18:42,994
People like to get high.
398
00:18:43,024 --> 00:18:45,024
What do they want these days?
399
00:18:45,054 --> 00:18:46,494
There's so many choices.
400
00:18:46,524 --> 00:18:48,194
Our biggest seller are
the pre-rolls.
401
00:18:48,224 --> 00:18:49,894
People like
ready-made cannabis.
402
00:18:49,924 --> 00:18:51,524
They want to buy and get high.
403
00:18:51,554 --> 00:18:53,230
- Loose joints.
- Loose joints, most people...
404
00:18:53,254 --> 00:18:54,994
- Really?
- They don't... people don't
405
00:18:55,024 --> 00:18:56,230
like to roll their own...
They don't know how
406
00:18:56,254 --> 00:18:57,854
to roll joints.
No.
407
00:18:57,894 --> 00:18:59,494
People, teach
your children well.
408
00:18:59,524 --> 00:19:01,994
I mean, this is
a basic life skill.
409
00:19:02,024 --> 00:19:03,500
- What do you smoke?
- Well, I like to smoke...
410
00:19:03,524 --> 00:19:05,494
As I... as I said,
I like to smoke weed.
411
00:19:05,524 --> 00:19:08,994
Now, the Alaskan Thunder...
it was an irresistible package.
412
00:19:09,024 --> 00:19:10,694
- Alaskan Thunder...
- Yeah.
413
00:19:10,724 --> 00:19:12,894
That's old-school
Hells Angels,
414
00:19:12,924 --> 00:19:14,430
that's their... that's
their old-school strain.
415
00:19:14,454 --> 00:19:15,994
- Did you smoke it?
- Yeah.
416
00:19:16,024 --> 00:19:17,654
I can't compare and contrast,
417
00:19:17,694 --> 00:19:19,894
because I've been trying them
all one after the other.
418
00:19:19,924 --> 00:19:21,494
Right.
419
00:19:21,524 --> 00:19:23,854
I mean, I've been
smoking weed since I was 13.
420
00:19:23,894 --> 00:19:25,424
- Right.
- You know, all the bad shit
421
00:19:25,454 --> 00:19:27,354
that... that was supposed
to happen if you,
422
00:19:27,394 --> 00:19:29,854
you know, smoked too much weed,
didn't really happen.
423
00:19:29,894 --> 00:19:32,494
But looking into my own life,
424
00:19:32,524 --> 00:19:34,494
you know, I've seen my ambition,
425
00:19:34,524 --> 00:19:38,154
you know, there were things
I was thinking about doing
426
00:19:38,194 --> 00:19:39,830
but, you know, once I start
smoking some good weed,
427
00:19:39,854 --> 00:19:42,494
it's like... eh.
428
00:19:53,794 --> 00:19:57,024
Okay, I'm good.
429
00:20:06,254 --> 00:20:08,354
In a nondescript-looking
building in Bellevue,
430
00:20:08,394 --> 00:20:10,854
some very smart people are
looking into things
431
00:20:10,894 --> 00:20:13,354
like how to stop hurricanes
before they happen...
432
00:20:15,054 --> 00:20:16,554
Ending malaria,
433
00:20:16,594 --> 00:20:19,494
and how to make
the perfect hamburger.
434
00:20:19,524 --> 00:20:22,524
Nathan Myhrvold is the former
Chief Technology Officer
435
00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:24,224
of Microsoft.
436
00:20:24,254 --> 00:20:26,724
A genius, an inventor,
and a very wealthy man
437
00:20:26,754 --> 00:20:29,094
who's free to indulge
his passions,
438
00:20:29,124 --> 00:20:32,854
most noticeably for cooking
and all things food.
439
00:20:34,394 --> 00:20:36,154
Over the last years,
he and his team
440
00:20:36,194 --> 00:20:38,224
have published
an incredibly lavish
441
00:20:38,254 --> 00:20:40,054
an authoritative series
of books,
442
00:20:40,094 --> 00:20:41,754
"Modernist Cuisine,"
443
00:20:41,794 --> 00:20:44,154
dedicated to debunking
popular misconceptions
444
00:20:44,194 --> 00:20:46,324
and documenting the results
with the best
445
00:20:46,354 --> 00:20:49,554
high-tech photography
and graphic art imaginable.
446
00:20:53,424 --> 00:20:56,724
Head chef Francisco Migoya
is leading the team
447
00:20:56,754 --> 00:20:58,494
into a new mission now,
448
00:20:58,524 --> 00:21:01,324
demystifying bread
for all of us.
449
00:21:03,894 --> 00:21:06,324
People like me,
450
00:21:06,354 --> 00:21:08,894
someone who's cooked
his whole life,
451
00:21:08,924 --> 00:21:11,254
I live in terror of...
Of bread,
452
00:21:11,294 --> 00:21:13,924
Anything that rises, in fact,
453
00:21:13,954 --> 00:21:16,354
like a horse, senses my fear...
454
00:21:17,454 --> 00:21:19,094
and insecurity, and misbehaves.
455
00:21:19,124 --> 00:21:22,424
I mean, I'm tenuous
with any doughs.
456
00:21:22,454 --> 00:21:24,330
You know, I've seen people who
work with it all the time.
457
00:21:24,354 --> 00:21:25,570
They're slapping it around
like it's nothing.
458
00:21:25,594 --> 00:21:29,354
I'm... like this and it
always goes wrong on me.
459
00:21:29,394 --> 00:21:31,094
It's just never...
Yeah.
460
00:21:31,124 --> 00:21:33,324
Quite right. Will
your work help me in my...
461
00:21:33,354 --> 00:21:35,024
It will help you, Tony.
462
00:21:36,454 --> 00:21:39,754
Bread is actually
amazingly robust.
463
00:21:39,794 --> 00:21:41,924
Although we've got
lots of recipes,
464
00:21:41,954 --> 00:21:43,994
recipes aren't as important
465
00:21:44,024 --> 00:21:46,424
as understanding sort of
the fundamentals
466
00:21:46,454 --> 00:21:47,654
of what's going on.
467
00:21:47,694 --> 00:21:50,154
And once you do,
468
00:21:50,194 --> 00:21:52,594
it's... it's really
quite forgiving.
469
00:21:55,024 --> 00:21:57,094
Few things are more mysterious
470
00:21:57,124 --> 00:22:00,354
and unknowable than the bagel.
471
00:22:00,394 --> 00:22:03,324
Can one, perhaps,
create the perfect bagel
472
00:22:03,354 --> 00:22:05,994
and with toppings
that don't fall off?
473
00:22:06,024 --> 00:22:08,554
As a New Yorker,
I'm inclined to say no,
474
00:22:08,594 --> 00:22:11,324
but now I... I'm not sure.
475
00:22:11,354 --> 00:22:13,854
And what is this,
bread in a jar?
476
00:22:13,894 --> 00:22:15,694
But... but what?
477
00:22:15,724 --> 00:22:17,194
What... what is
going on here?
478
00:22:17,224 --> 00:22:19,394
This is the kind of
sick thing we do.
479
00:22:19,424 --> 00:22:22,654
We wondered,
could you can bread?
480
00:22:22,694 --> 00:22:25,054
By God, you can.
481
00:22:25,094 --> 00:22:28,594
This is rum babas...
Oh, I love them.
482
00:22:28,624 --> 00:22:30,330
Which is a bread in
the sense it uses yeast...
483
00:22:30,354 --> 00:22:32,094
- Yes.
- And we canned them.
484
00:22:33,411 --> 00:22:38,481
Now, watch what happens
when we open it up.
485
00:22:38,511 --> 00:22:41,681
Isn't that awesome?
486
00:22:44,511 --> 00:22:46,111
It's really good.
487
00:22:46,141 --> 00:22:48,611
And how long will this
stay in there?
488
00:22:48,641 --> 00:22:50,781
Nine months and it's good.
489
00:22:50,811 --> 00:22:52,617
So I'd have perfectly
fresh bread in nine months
490
00:22:52,641 --> 00:22:55,141
if I just pop the top
on that thing?
491
00:22:57,711 --> 00:23:00,841
Look, you know, jaded cooks
and chefs like me...
492
00:23:02,541 --> 00:23:05,441
They still find there are
certain unknowables
493
00:23:05,481 --> 00:23:08,681
or things that cause them to
pause in the kitchen
494
00:23:08,711 --> 00:23:11,841
and gaze with wonder
at the magic
495
00:23:11,881 --> 00:23:13,281
of something like bread.
496
00:23:13,311 --> 00:23:15,341
Aren't you afraid that
in some way
497
00:23:15,381 --> 00:23:17,941
you're doing Satan's work
here by quantifying magic?
498
00:23:17,981 --> 00:23:20,211
Food is a very romantic thing.
499
00:23:20,241 --> 00:23:23,141
It's usually experienced at best
500
00:23:23,181 --> 00:23:24,611
in an emotional way.
501
00:23:24,641 --> 00:23:25,711
Absolutely.
502
00:23:25,741 --> 00:23:29,981
By explaining it...
Absolutely it's emotional.
503
00:23:30,011 --> 00:23:31,481
Absolutely it can be art.
504
00:23:31,511 --> 00:23:34,141
But knowing how to do it right,
505
00:23:34,181 --> 00:23:35,841
to me, doesn't diminish that.
506
00:23:35,881 --> 00:23:38,811
Hmm.
507
00:23:45,541 --> 00:23:47,541
Across the water from my hotel
508
00:23:47,581 --> 00:23:50,441
in the Puget Sound,
just outside the city limits,
509
00:23:50,481 --> 00:23:53,841
the wilderness opens
up and it's beautiful.
510
00:23:55,481 --> 00:24:03,181
Lord of fire in the sky
Getting level neon devil
511
00:24:03,211 --> 00:24:10,511
Holy, holy in my mind
To abide and crucify
512
00:24:10,541 --> 00:24:19,141
With blue, blue sea Far away
513
00:24:32,481 --> 00:24:36,941
On Vashon Island, a clambake
with Dungeness crab,
514
00:24:36,981 --> 00:24:39,941
spot prawns, mussels,
corn, and potatoes
515
00:24:39,981 --> 00:24:43,041
covered in kelp and steamed
together under burlap.
516
00:24:43,081 --> 00:24:46,281
Old-school.
517
00:24:46,311 --> 00:24:52,541
Lord of fire in the
sky Getting level..."
518
00:24:52,581 --> 00:24:58,881
- Dig in.
- Neon devil Holy, holy in my mind
519
00:24:58,911 --> 00:25:11,541
To abide and crucify With
blue, blue sea Far away
520
00:25:13,541 --> 00:25:15,311
Chefs Grant Crilly
and Chris Young
521
00:25:15,341 --> 00:25:16,981
worked with Nathan
at Modernist Cuisine
522
00:25:17,011 --> 00:25:19,181
before breaking off
to do their own thing,
523
00:25:19,211 --> 00:25:21,441
ChefSteps,
a high-tech outfit
524
00:25:21,481 --> 00:25:23,281
dedicated to help people
cook better
525
00:25:23,311 --> 00:25:25,011
with step-by-step
video apps
526
00:25:25,041 --> 00:25:26,941
and interactive content.
527
00:25:28,381 --> 00:25:29,657
Essentially the way
we look at it is
528
00:25:29,681 --> 00:25:31,681
our job is to help people cook,
529
00:25:31,711 --> 00:25:33,657
cook a meal for their family,
cook a meal for their friends
530
00:25:33,681 --> 00:25:36,281
where they're happy and didn't
know they could cook that well.
531
00:25:36,311 --> 00:25:37,981
- Yeah.
- 'Cause we're kind of
532
00:25:38,011 --> 00:25:39,641
technologists, too,
533
00:25:39,681 --> 00:25:41,711
we think, you know, there's
a roll for technology,
534
00:25:41,741 --> 00:25:43,841
but there's also a roll
for... for craft
535
00:25:43,881 --> 00:25:45,341
and tradition.
536
00:25:45,381 --> 00:25:47,611
I think there's
an element of uncertainty
537
00:25:47,641 --> 00:25:50,511
and risk that is very exciting
to me when I cook.
538
00:25:50,541 --> 00:25:52,111
You know, it's
the imperfections in life
539
00:25:52,141 --> 00:25:53,611
that are most interesting.
540
00:25:53,641 --> 00:25:55,881
If everybody knew how to
sauce pasta correctly,
541
00:25:55,911 --> 00:25:57,941
I don't know that
that would make me happier.
542
00:25:57,981 --> 00:26:00,511
The kitchen is a pretty scary
place for a lot of people,
543
00:26:00,541 --> 00:26:03,041
and so if... if you can
bring technology
544
00:26:03,081 --> 00:26:05,381
and it takes that fear away
because they know that
545
00:26:05,411 --> 00:26:07,017
it's gonna come out well,
they're gonna be happy
546
00:26:07,041 --> 00:26:09,041
with the result, that'll
get them to cook again.
547
00:26:09,081 --> 00:26:11,881
Coming from the guys who, you
know, wrote "Modernist Cuisine,"
548
00:26:11,911 --> 00:26:14,781
we're trying to find that
21st-century blend
549
00:26:14,811 --> 00:26:16,617
between YouTube and Instagram
and technology...
550
00:26:16,641 --> 00:26:18,381
- Right.
- And tools like that
551
00:26:18,411 --> 00:26:20,181
with the things that
are great about cooking,
552
00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:21,781
which is sharing a meal.
553
00:26:21,811 --> 00:26:23,617
I think you're missing
a central dynamic here.
554
00:26:23,641 --> 00:26:25,941
I mean, why do people
Instagram pictures of food?
555
00:26:25,981 --> 00:26:28,611
To share their wonderful
eating experience? No.
556
00:26:28,641 --> 00:26:30,857
It's to make other people feel
bad about what they're eating.
557
00:26:30,881 --> 00:26:34,781
It's like, look, I'm eating
all these incredible crabs
558
00:26:34,811 --> 00:26:36,781
and you're sitting at home
in some, you know,
559
00:26:36,811 --> 00:26:38,311
dirty underwear eating Doritos.
560
00:26:38,341 --> 00:26:39,781
I mean, hopefully.
561
00:26:39,811 --> 00:26:41,641
I mean, Doritos
are pretty tasty.
562
00:26:55,511 --> 00:26:57,611
It is probably unfair to suggest
563
00:26:57,641 --> 00:27:00,281
that the Pacific Northwest
and Seattle area
564
00:27:00,311 --> 00:27:02,981
could have been home to a
disproportionally large number
565
00:27:03,011 --> 00:27:05,711
of serial killers,
but I'll do it anyway.
566
00:27:05,741 --> 00:27:07,657
- Shucked Taylor oysters here.
- Wonderful. Thank you.
567
00:27:07,681 --> 00:27:08,957
Anything else
I can grab you gentlemen?
568
00:27:08,981 --> 00:27:10,281
Oh, I'm good for now.
569
00:27:10,311 --> 00:27:12,441
Good for now?
All right, enjoy.
570
00:27:12,481 --> 00:27:15,811
I'm gonna try a Fat Bastard,
that sounds interesting.
571
00:27:15,841 --> 00:27:18,881
Fred Moody is a writer
and bartender.
572
00:27:18,911 --> 00:27:22,141
Jack Whisner is a transit
planner for King County Metro.
573
00:27:22,181 --> 00:27:25,041
And Knute Berger is
a journalist and columnist
574
00:27:25,081 --> 00:27:26,141
for "Seattle Weekly."
575
00:27:26,181 --> 00:27:28,881
Old-school Seattle all.
576
00:27:28,911 --> 00:27:31,941
Taylor Shellfish Oyster Bar
in Pioneer Square
577
00:27:31,981 --> 00:27:33,941
is old-school, too.
578
00:27:33,981 --> 00:27:37,311
The Taylor family has been
farming more than 12,000 acres
579
00:27:37,341 --> 00:27:39,481
of tidelands in the Puget Sound,
580
00:27:39,511 --> 00:27:41,441
Willapa Bay, and the Hood Canal
581
00:27:41,481 --> 00:27:45,941
for over five
generations, since 1890.
582
00:27:45,981 --> 00:27:48,611
With three restaurants in town,
they know what they're doing.
583
00:27:48,641 --> 00:27:50,311
Are you gonna eat these whole?
584
00:27:50,341 --> 00:27:52,611
Head, tail, bones and all?
585
00:27:52,641 --> 00:27:54,611
Yes.
586
00:27:54,641 --> 00:27:56,841
Whole, local smelt flash fried
587
00:27:56,881 --> 00:28:01,311
and served with
pepperoncini sambal aioli,
588
00:28:01,341 --> 00:28:03,381
local Dungeness crab
cooked and chilled
589
00:28:03,411 --> 00:28:05,111
with pickled ginger sauce,
590
00:28:05,141 --> 00:28:07,611
and oysters, lots of oysters.
591
00:28:09,711 --> 00:28:13,111
Seattle has been for...
For a very long time
592
00:28:13,141 --> 00:28:15,041
considered one of
the more foodie,
593
00:28:15,081 --> 00:28:16,657
for lack of a better word,
foodie cities.
594
00:28:16,681 --> 00:28:18,641
- Yeah.
- If you ask me why, generally
595
00:28:18,681 --> 00:28:20,857
it's said the sheer abundance
of really good ingredients.
596
00:28:20,881 --> 00:28:23,511
Yeah, exactly. I mean, you
got the ocean there.
597
00:28:23,541 --> 00:28:27,111
You've got cattle country
and orchard country
598
00:28:27,141 --> 00:28:28,881
just over the mountains.
Yeah.
599
00:28:28,911 --> 00:28:30,617
They say one of the things
that's changed in Seattle
600
00:28:30,641 --> 00:28:32,541
is there's not just
the Pike Place Market
601
00:28:32,581 --> 00:28:34,511
but every neighborhood
has a market now.
602
00:28:34,541 --> 00:28:36,281
- Has a green market.
- Yeah.
603
00:28:36,311 --> 00:28:38,781
So those entrepreneurs
have a place to sell.
604
00:28:38,811 --> 00:28:41,511
They can go to all the markets
or just some of them,
605
00:28:41,541 --> 00:28:43,341
but it's really fantastic.
606
00:28:43,381 --> 00:28:45,841
So everybody born
and bred in Seattle?
607
00:28:45,881 --> 00:28:47,281
I was, yeah.
608
00:28:47,311 --> 00:28:49,041
- Born here?
- Yes.
609
00:28:49,081 --> 00:28:50,681
Bellingham, which is...
610
00:28:50,711 --> 00:28:52,317
Oh, sure, serial killer
capital of the world.
611
00:28:52,341 --> 00:28:53,941
There's a bar there
612
00:28:53,981 --> 00:28:55,941
where both Ted Bundy
and the Green River Killer
613
00:28:55,981 --> 00:28:57,611
had been patrons, yeah.
614
00:28:57,641 --> 00:28:59,311
Bundy was born in Tacoma
and that's...
615
00:28:59,341 --> 00:29:01,041
- Right.
- There are two, right?
616
00:29:01,081 --> 00:29:02,617
- The Hillside Strangler...
- Hillside Strangler also.
617
00:29:02,641 --> 00:29:04,341
- Also the Beltway Sniper.
- Right.
618
00:29:04,381 --> 00:29:05,887
The worst one was
the Green River Killer.
619
00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:07,311
Yeah.
620
00:29:07,341 --> 00:29:09,011
Why is Seattle,
the Pacific Northwest,
621
00:29:09,041 --> 00:29:11,881
such a magnet for
serial killers? Any theories?
622
00:29:11,911 --> 00:29:13,941
You know, people come here
to hide out.
623
00:29:13,981 --> 00:29:17,011
They... they think, well... they
look at the map and it's like...
624
00:29:17,041 --> 00:29:19,841
Got two mountain ranges
are just a couple hours away.
625
00:29:19,881 --> 00:29:23,281
Literally, you can hide
bodies like a short drive
626
00:29:23,311 --> 00:29:24,611
from wherever you are.
627
00:29:24,641 --> 00:29:26,311
So convenient body dumping?
628
00:29:26,341 --> 00:29:27,681
Body dumping.
629
00:29:27,711 --> 00:29:29,181
I mean, that's
gotta be part of it.
630
00:29:29,211 --> 00:29:30,611
You have all that lush greenery.
631
00:29:30,641 --> 00:29:32,611
If you're looking
to dump a body, Seattle.
632
00:29:32,641 --> 00:29:34,481
Yeah.
633
00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:36,841
I've always thought the rain
was kind of part of it.
634
00:29:36,881 --> 00:29:39,681
You got to that stretch
from maybe October
635
00:29:39,711 --> 00:29:42,711
to February, and by the time
you're in February,
636
00:29:42,741 --> 00:29:45,287
I mean, you... you want to... you
want to become a serial killer.
637
00:29:45,311 --> 00:29:46,787
I mean, you know.
That's part of it.
638
00:29:46,811 --> 00:29:48,781
But apparently you can.
639
00:29:50,711 --> 00:29:54,441
Is Seattle a teeming hive
of serial killers?
640
00:29:54,481 --> 00:29:57,811
Or am I just an idiot with a
morbidly overactive imagination
641
00:29:57,841 --> 00:30:02,341
and an attraction to
the dark, ugly side of life?
642
00:30:02,381 --> 00:30:05,511
Meet retired homicide
detective Mike Ciesynski
643
00:30:05,541 --> 00:30:07,381
who, for over 12 years,
644
00:30:07,411 --> 00:30:09,711
specialized in cold cases
in the region.
645
00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:12,511
We meet at the Shanghai Room
in Greenwood
646
00:30:12,541 --> 00:30:14,941
where Fred Moody tends bar.
647
00:30:14,981 --> 00:30:17,881
The North Star Diner next door
provides nourishment.
648
00:30:17,911 --> 00:30:20,941
Crab, bacon,
and melted cheese is,
649
00:30:20,981 --> 00:30:23,111
when discussing dump sites
and ligature marks,
650
00:30:23,141 --> 00:30:24,841
a must.
651
00:30:24,881 --> 00:30:28,041
Why does it seem that there's
a disproportionate number
652
00:30:28,081 --> 00:30:31,981
of serial killers in the Seattle
and Washington State area?
653
00:30:32,011 --> 00:30:33,857
Do you have a theory on that?
Well, I don't think
654
00:30:33,881 --> 00:30:36,341
that most serial killers
are... are... went shopping
655
00:30:36,381 --> 00:30:37,611
for areas where they live.
656
00:30:37,641 --> 00:30:39,681
This is just where
they ended up.
657
00:30:39,711 --> 00:30:41,381
- Mm-hmm.
- When you're a detective
658
00:30:41,411 --> 00:30:43,441
for as long as I've been
a detective
659
00:30:43,481 --> 00:30:46,041
and you're around
very evil people,
660
00:30:46,081 --> 00:30:48,157
it's a place where I don't want
you to have to come and look at
661
00:30:48,181 --> 00:30:49,711
through my eyes.
662
00:30:49,741 --> 00:30:51,781
I mean, I can talk to you
about it and all that,
663
00:30:51,811 --> 00:30:53,787
but I hope you never have
to see it like I seen it,
664
00:30:53,811 --> 00:30:55,787
'cause, you know, it's not a...
It's a different place.
665
00:30:55,811 --> 00:30:58,181
It's a place you
don't want to be, and...
666
00:30:58,211 --> 00:31:00,641
How many... how many
working serial killers
667
00:31:00,681 --> 00:31:02,281
do you think are
out there right now
668
00:31:02,311 --> 00:31:04,141
in the Washington State area?
669
00:31:04,181 --> 00:31:06,611
I would say, I mean,
easily right now,
670
00:31:06,641 --> 00:31:09,711
easily over 75 people out here
671
00:31:09,741 --> 00:31:12,441
that are probably
serial murderers.
672
00:31:12,481 --> 00:31:15,181
The FBI list it as...
- Whoa! 75. - Oh, yeah.
673
00:31:15,211 --> 00:31:16,811
I don't care
how nice it is here,
674
00:31:16,841 --> 00:31:19,541
you know, fun Seattle
and stuff, you know.
675
00:31:19,581 --> 00:31:22,611
I know how many evil people
are running around here.
676
00:31:24,211 --> 00:31:26,611
So...
677
00:31:26,641 --> 00:31:28,457
do you think these guys are
holding down regular jobs?
678
00:31:28,481 --> 00:31:30,811
Well, yeah.
They can... they can just go on
679
00:31:30,841 --> 00:31:32,511
and have their,
you know, regular,
680
00:31:32,541 --> 00:31:34,211
what would seem to us
as a regular life.
681
00:31:34,241 --> 00:31:35,641
They could also have wives.
682
00:31:35,681 --> 00:31:37,211
Yeah, I was wondering
about that.
683
00:31:37,241 --> 00:31:38,841
I always wonder about the wives.
684
00:31:38,881 --> 00:31:41,341
It's like, don't you notice,
you know, the mementos
685
00:31:41,381 --> 00:31:43,981
and the unusual odor
coming from the crawl space?
686
00:31:44,011 --> 00:31:45,781
I mean, what...
John Wayne Gacy, exactly...
687
00:31:45,811 --> 00:31:47,387
- I mean, what the...
- you know, and just
688
00:31:47,411 --> 00:31:49,211
what's with the whole
clown outfit?
689
00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:51,811
I mean, first of all, all you
gotta do is put on a clown suit
690
00:31:51,841 --> 00:31:53,781
and already you're...
You're a suspect.
691
00:32:07,011 --> 00:32:14,611
I have given to you, Jane
A torn and tattered love
692
00:32:14,641 --> 00:32:18,511
But do you hear
the tolling bells
693
00:32:18,541 --> 00:32:22,341
That ring down from above?
694
00:32:22,381 --> 00:32:26,381
I Thought I'd rule like
Charlemagne
695
00:32:26,411 --> 00:32:34,281
But I've become corrupt
Now I crawl the promenade
696
00:32:34,311 --> 00:32:40,611
To fill my empty cup
And you're free
697
00:32:42,211 --> 00:32:47,841
You're free again One more time
698
00:32:52,641 --> 00:32:54,511
Mark Lanegan is to my mind
699
00:32:54,541 --> 00:32:56,881
one of the greatest living
singer-songwriters
700
00:32:56,911 --> 00:32:58,541
making music today.
701
00:32:58,581 --> 00:33:00,611
His songs and lyrics
702
00:33:00,641 --> 00:33:03,211
reflective of a long, hard life
703
00:33:03,241 --> 00:33:05,281
cut me right down to the bone.
704
00:33:05,311 --> 00:33:07,041
His career has spanned
two decades
705
00:33:07,081 --> 00:33:09,781
beginning with the
Screaming Trees in the '90s
706
00:33:09,811 --> 00:33:11,111
and continuing through numerous
707
00:33:11,141 --> 00:33:12,681
brilliant collaborations
708
00:33:12,711 --> 00:33:14,351
with artists like
Queens of the Stone Age,
709
00:33:14,381 --> 00:33:19,541
PJ Harvey, Kurt Cobain,
Unkle, Mad Season,
710
00:33:19,581 --> 00:33:22,141
The Gutter Twins,
Isobel Campbell,
711
00:33:22,181 --> 00:33:24,711
and Massive Attack.
712
00:33:24,741 --> 00:33:28,181
Maybe you know him from such
theme songs as...
713
00:33:28,981 --> 00:33:30,811
this show.
714
00:33:37,411 --> 00:33:39,611
Wow.
715
00:33:39,641 --> 00:33:41,381
Spicy.
716
00:33:41,411 --> 00:33:44,011
Yeah, that's good.
717
00:33:44,041 --> 00:33:46,941
Dinner with Mark and touring
guitarist Jeff Fielder
718
00:33:46,981 --> 00:33:50,311
at Ocho in Ballard,
719
00:33:50,341 --> 00:33:52,441
where they serve up
generous drinks
720
00:33:52,481 --> 00:33:54,541
and Spanish-influenced tapas.
721
00:33:57,011 --> 00:34:00,181
You grew up around, what, two,
two hours outside of Seattle?
722
00:34:00,211 --> 00:34:02,181
Yeah, in Eastern Washington,
723
00:34:02,211 --> 00:34:05,111
which is like the countryside,
724
00:34:05,141 --> 00:34:07,711
ranching, farming community.
725
00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:09,811
You don't live here anymore.
You live in L.A. now?
726
00:34:09,841 --> 00:34:11,281
Yeah.
727
00:34:11,311 --> 00:34:13,811
How long since you left?
728
00:34:13,841 --> 00:34:15,941
Oh, it's been 20 years.
729
00:34:15,981 --> 00:34:17,281
Oh, wow.
730
00:34:17,311 --> 00:34:18,681
But I come back here, you know,
731
00:34:18,711 --> 00:34:20,281
a couple times a year.
I play shows.
732
00:34:20,311 --> 00:34:22,711
I still have family in...
In the city,
733
00:34:22,741 --> 00:34:25,441
and I think of it
as home, still.
734
00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:30,181
You know, I always will.
735
00:34:30,211 --> 00:34:32,481
It's just...
736
00:34:32,511 --> 00:34:35,041
It's the home
I don't live in anymore.
737
00:34:36,911 --> 00:34:40,811
Will you put on that
long white dress
738
00:34:42,481 --> 00:34:47,841
While I burn when there's
no more Tomorrows?
739
00:34:49,411 --> 00:34:51,111
Will you walk with me
underground
740
00:34:53,541 --> 00:34:59,941
And forget all the
sadness And the sorrows?
741
00:34:59,981 --> 00:35:02,811
Ba da da da
742
00:35:05,011 --> 00:35:08,311
Ba da da da da
743
00:35:13,581 --> 00:35:15,787
So how long have you been
playing music professionally?
744
00:35:15,811 --> 00:35:18,781
Well, kind of
the whole time, you know.
745
00:35:18,811 --> 00:35:21,641
I mean, I played my first gigs
when I was 13.
746
00:35:21,681 --> 00:35:24,941
I've been touring with...
With Mark
747
00:35:24,981 --> 00:35:26,781
since about 2010.
748
00:35:26,811 --> 00:35:30,111
What was the first band, first
time you were ever onstage?
749
00:35:30,141 --> 00:35:32,011
And where was it?
750
00:35:32,041 --> 00:35:34,381
It was in my hometown, I was 15,
751
00:35:34,411 --> 00:35:38,211
and some guys I worked
in a restaurant with
752
00:35:38,241 --> 00:35:39,841
had a band.
They were older.
753
00:35:39,881 --> 00:35:43,481
And I sang at one pool party
that they had.
754
00:35:43,511 --> 00:35:46,881
What was the set list
there, covers or?
755
00:35:46,911 --> 00:35:48,681
A lot of Van Halen.
756
00:35:48,711 --> 00:35:50,141
Oh, wow.
757
00:35:50,181 --> 00:35:51,311
Styx.
758
00:35:51,341 --> 00:35:53,011
Oh, brutal.
759
00:35:59,041 --> 00:36:02,611
You have played and played with
a lot of different people
760
00:36:02,641 --> 00:36:04,681
from different styles of music.
761
00:36:04,711 --> 00:36:07,611
I think a lot of musicians
I know and have met would...
762
00:36:07,641 --> 00:36:09,441
Would have a hard
time with that.
763
00:36:09,481 --> 00:36:12,281
You seem to move
effortlessly around.
764
00:36:12,311 --> 00:36:15,211
I don't know,
I've just been blessed
765
00:36:15,241 --> 00:36:16,981
with a lot of opportunity.
766
00:36:17,011 --> 00:36:19,611
I get to play with a lot of
people whose music I really love
767
00:36:19,641 --> 00:36:22,641
so I'm happy.
768
00:36:24,181 --> 00:36:26,681
You know, after having been in
my own band for many years,
769
00:36:26,711 --> 00:36:28,781
and suddenly, like,
I'm taking jobs
770
00:36:28,811 --> 00:36:31,441
where I'm just playing part
of somebody's set,
771
00:36:31,481 --> 00:36:32,841
at first it was
a little awkward,
772
00:36:32,881 --> 00:36:36,011
but then I grew to
really love doing it
773
00:36:36,041 --> 00:36:40,111
because it was easy and fun
774
00:36:40,141 --> 00:36:42,481
and there was no pressure.
775
00:36:42,511 --> 00:36:44,611
I did that for
quite a few years,
776
00:36:44,641 --> 00:36:47,311
and I'm available
to do that again
777
00:36:47,341 --> 00:36:49,541
if anybody wants me.
778
00:36:53,511 --> 00:37:01,941
On the marble street A
procession spills in
779
00:37:01,981 --> 00:37:08,311
At the White Sea wall Waves
crash and crash again
780
00:37:11,041 --> 00:37:14,111
Darkness shining
781
00:37:15,311 --> 00:37:18,781
Then disappearing
782
00:37:19,981 --> 00:37:23,941
Day follows night
Night follows day
783
00:37:27,811 --> 00:37:33,481
Good-bye Good-bye
to beauty Good-bye
784
00:37:33,511 --> 00:37:36,111
Good-bye to beauty
785
00:37:37,811 --> 00:37:40,441
You... are you
at all sentimental
786
00:37:40,481 --> 00:37:43,711
about how Seattle used to be?
787
00:37:47,481 --> 00:37:50,941
You know, I guess it's...
788
00:37:50,981 --> 00:37:53,781
It's like being sentimental
about grade school
789
00:37:53,811 --> 00:37:56,111
or, you know,
any time of your life
790
00:37:56,141 --> 00:37:58,511
that isn't around anymore.
791
00:37:58,541 --> 00:38:01,341
I miss... I miss some of the guys
that were around then
792
00:38:01,381 --> 00:38:03,011
that aren't around
anymore, you know,
793
00:38:03,041 --> 00:38:07,941
some of my friends, but,
you know, that's life.
794
00:38:07,981 --> 00:38:11,281
Good-bye to beauty
795
00:38:46,311 --> 00:38:47,681
Next to making a proper omelet
796
00:38:47,711 --> 00:38:49,641
or like wiping your own ass,
797
00:38:49,681 --> 00:38:52,211
knowing how to roll a joint
798
00:38:52,241 --> 00:38:54,041
is an essential life skill
799
00:38:54,081 --> 00:38:57,381
for any self-respecting
member of society in my view.
800
00:38:57,411 --> 00:38:59,641
Pay attention, people.
801
00:39:14,981 --> 00:39:18,181
Can you stay here next to me?
802
00:39:20,311 --> 00:39:23,041
We'll just keep drivin'
803
00:39:25,841 --> 00:39:29,011
Because of you I see a light
804
00:39:31,311 --> 00:39:36,611
The Buick's a Century
A '73 like you
805
00:39:38,411 --> 00:39:40,841
Some strange religion
806
00:39:43,641 --> 00:39:47,111
I get my hands on
some money, Mama
807
00:39:48,381 --> 00:39:50,711
And a shot in the night
808
00:39:54,811 --> 00:39:59,611
Stared down the past
and just scarred my eyes
809
00:40:01,881 --> 00:40:06,111
I almost called it a day
so many times
810
00:40:07,811 --> 00:40:12,141
Never known what it felt like
to be alive
811
00:40:15,381 --> 00:40:18,281
Till you been a friend to me
812
00:40:18,311 --> 00:40:24,111
Like nobody else could be Mm
813
00:40:36,481 --> 00:40:40,841
Keep my hands
on the wheel now, mama
814
00:40:40,881 --> 00:40:43,281
Gonna honestly try
815
00:40:47,541 --> 00:40:51,941
She looked past the scars
and the burned out eyes
816
00:40:54,981 --> 00:40:58,611
You could see I'm no easy ride
817
00:41:00,841 --> 00:41:05,281
She's just the kind
who might get you to buy
818
00:41:07,981 --> 00:41:10,211
Some strange religion
819
00:41:13,541 --> 00:41:17,281
This jack of diamonds
kicked her heart around
820
00:41:19,011 --> 00:41:23,311
Should-a known they were
walking on holy ground
821
00:41:26,811 --> 00:41:30,111
And this life might eventually
822
00:41:30,141 --> 00:41:37,611
Just be the end of me Will
I still be with you Mm
823
00:41:40,241 --> 00:41:43,181
Then get in next to me
824
00:41:45,211 --> 00:41:47,281
Just keep drivin'
825
00:41:50,581 --> 00:41:53,781
Because of you I been alive
826
00:41:55,641 --> 00:42:01,611
And the Buick's a
Century A '73 like you
827
00:42:03,581 --> 00:42:05,981
Some strange religion
828
00:42:09,581 --> 00:42:14,841
And the Buick's a
Century A '73 like you
829
00:42:16,981 --> 00:42:19,281
Some strange religion
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