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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,320 The time [music] between Principality to 2 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:22,359 the sea constant trials disregard 3 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,220 [music] 4 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,460 [music] 5 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,700 [music] 6 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,265 space. 7 00:00:41,265 --> 00:00:43,285 [music] 8 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,719 Yes. Were there at the beginning of 9 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:47,600 progressive rock? [music] They were 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,039 there before progressive rock was really 11 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:51,440 formed. Like all the great bands, they 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,440 had ambition, they had vision, they had 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,675 a musicality, they had a virtuosity. 14 00:00:55,675 --> 00:00:57,695 [music] 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,640 >> They just broke all the rules. They did 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,360 anything they felt that they either 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,880 wanted to do or could do. 18 00:01:09,430 --> 00:01:11,450 >> [music] 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,600 >> Classic Yes are are one of the 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,880 probably the finest British [music] 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,240 bands of that ilk. 22 00:01:23,119 --> 00:01:24,159 >> They weren't kind of [music] just 23 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,720 rockers that went on and turned up very 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,560 loud and and played. It was very [music] 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,159 sort of thought out, very cerebral 26 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:33,011 music. 27 00:01:33,011 --> 00:01:35,031 [music] 28 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:39,439 They wanted to take rock music outside 29 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:41,526 of the 3minut pop format and then they 30 00:01:41,526 --> 00:01:43,439 [music] wanted to take it beyond the 31 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:48,600 sort of stuck in a hard rock format. 32 00:01:48,731 --> 00:01:50,751 [music] 33 00:01:53,316 --> 00:01:55,336 [music] 34 00:01:57,901 --> 00:01:58,719 >> [music] 35 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:00,799 >> It was away from Beatles, away from the 36 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:02,719 Rolling Stone was still so powerful at 37 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:05,119 the time and it can be dreamy. So I'm 38 00:02:05,119 --> 00:02:06,799 sure a lot of teenager at the time say 39 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:08,640 like oh wow you know it's like it's 40 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:11,056 different [music] 41 00:02:15,586 --> 00:02:17,606 [music] 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,040 >> Yes. started out as John Anderson, 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,720 formerly of a band called Gum, [music] 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,360 and Chris Squab, formerly of a band 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,040 called The Simp. They came together. It 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,640 was their vision. It was their band. 47 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:31,040 Early on, [music] they had been 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,720 listening to a lot of sort of West Coast 49 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,560 bands from, you know, from California. 50 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Um, lots of harmony singing, [music] 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,560 Cosby's National Young, um, The Birds. 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,000 In fact, they covered a bird's song on 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,080 the first album. I think they liked that 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,760 kind of all the harmony singing that was 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,061 going on in those West Coast bands. 56 00:02:45,061 --> 00:02:47,081 [music] 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,239 take it 58 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:51,611 and [music] 59 00:02:51,611 --> 00:02:52,480 [singing] 60 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,519 >> the first album I think like any band 61 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:57,599 you know they'd been gigging around 62 00:02:57,599 --> 00:02:59,280 they'd got a record contract they'd gone 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,040 into the studio and they [music] were 64 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,800 experimenting they were trying to find 65 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,959 their feet 66 00:03:07,332 --> 00:03:09,352 [music and singing] 67 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,040 >> it's got the harmonics that they would 68 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,519 use vocal harmonics that that that the 69 00:03:13,519 --> 00:03:14,560 band would develop 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,959 >> the association or even the beach boys. 71 00:03:16,959 --> 00:03:18,080 They were the kind of things John 72 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,440 Anderson had been listening to in the 73 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,000 60s and you can still hear that American 74 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,720 tambra to the harmonies that they layer 75 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,982 on top of the songs. 76 00:03:26,982 --> 00:03:29,002 [music] 77 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:36,400 >> So the first album is quite sweet. Um 78 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,840 it's got a few sort of mini pop operas 79 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,840 survivals [music] one track. Um, so it's 80 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,440 actually very different to, you know, 81 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,200 the what's regarded as the classic Yes. 82 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,652 Sound. [music] 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,519 >> One of the reasons that that many of the 84 00:03:53,519 --> 00:03:55,680 the the classic Prague rock band's first 85 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,159 albums are a little musically offkilter 86 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:00,640 to the the the rest of the their um 87 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,720 their catalog simply because, you know, 88 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,480 it's it's the first one and it's like, 89 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,920 well, you know, we did have this kind of 90 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,000 crazy idea, but can we execute it in the 91 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,519 studio kind of thing. Although yes was 92 00:04:09,519 --> 00:04:10,879 still trying to find their ground, still 93 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:12,560 trying to find a way forward. And 94 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,799 progressive music as such was very much 95 00:04:14,799 --> 00:04:17,280 a young genre, the first album really 96 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:19,280 did establish a style for Yes. And out 97 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:21,919 of it came particularly Pete Banks, a 98 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:24,000 guitarist of tremendous range, 99 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,479 tremendous enthusiasm and particularly 100 00:04:26,479 --> 00:04:28,479 great vision. Peter Banks was playing 101 00:04:28,479 --> 00:04:30,400 guitar in the band at that time before 102 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,400 Steve Hal. Um and he's very very 103 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,793 different guitarist kind of guitarist 104 00:04:33,793 --> 00:04:35,360 [music] to Steve Hal. 105 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,160 um his influence is more kind of maybe 106 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,708 Hendrick's inspired. [music] 107 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:45,040 A couple of the group songs, [music] 108 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,840 Survival and Look Around did actually 109 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:50,639 become standards in the Yes Live set for 110 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:53,759 a while, but by and large the album 111 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:56,000 really failed to fulfill their vision of 112 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,600 what they wanted it to. They were 113 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,600 perhaps being too ambitious given their 114 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,320 inexperience in the studio and the 115 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,000 result was probably more [music] pop 116 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,440 than it was Prague. 117 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,320 >> I think the first album announced yes as 118 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,080 a band who were out of the ordinary. 119 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,520 This was [music] not a group that you 120 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,840 could categorize in the ordinary 121 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,080 language of of rock or [music] pop 122 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,520 music. They were distinctive and they 123 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,680 were unique. 124 00:05:24,883 --> 00:05:26,903 >> [music] 125 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,880 >> Yes, I mean had two sort of main 126 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,639 reference points m sonically I guess. Um 127 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:36,800 one was the quirky time changes often 128 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,440 led by Chris Squire's bass playing. Um 129 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,720 and the other of course is John 130 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,223 Anderson's very distinct vocal sound. 131 00:05:43,223 --> 00:05:45,243 [music] 132 00:05:47,808 --> 00:05:48,560 >> [music] 133 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,639 >> I think John Anderson's voice is is yes. 134 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:54,800 You know, whether other band members 135 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,800 accept that, don't accept it, fans do, 136 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,479 or don't, if you really look at the 137 00:05:58,479 --> 00:05:59,840 music, without [music] John Anderson's 138 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:01,280 voice, it wouldn't be yes. They would 139 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:02,639 actually have to rename themselves 140 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,960 something else. 141 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,199 Sometimes when I listen to to yes music, 142 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:13,919 if John's voice didn't come in and sing 143 00:06:13,919 --> 00:06:15,280 these sort of nice melodies and 144 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:17,120 harmonies and stuff, I might get a 145 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,639 little bored, you know, because 146 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:21,440 musically the a lot of the changes are 147 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,520 so rapid sometimes you need something to 148 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,840 hang on to. And John's voice being so 149 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:27,360 distinctive, you know, you could hear it 150 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,880 off a car radio or something. Yeah, 151 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,240 that's definitely Yes, there's John 152 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,680 Anderson singing. He wasn't out of his 153 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,759 depth when the band started um coming up 154 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:35,280 with more and more kind of complex 155 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:37,199 musical arrangements. Um he could 156 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:39,280 incorporate the voice easily and 157 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:40,639 perfectly into those complex 158 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:43,199 arrangements and um really sort of 159 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:44,160 delivered some great works. 160 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,039 >> He's got perfect pitch. His delivery is 161 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:50,560 is unique. His lyrics are certainly 162 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,199 unique. Uh whatever you think of them, 163 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:56,560 he is one of the the most individual and 164 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,759 gifted frontmen in music ever. 165 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,919 John Anderson has an alto voice in 166 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:08,639 contrast to most [music] rock singers 167 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:11,280 who sing with a kind of rounchy tenner 168 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,039 voice. Um that meant that his falsetto 169 00:07:15,039 --> 00:07:17,120 gives his lyrics a sort of ethereal 170 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,854 quality. 171 00:07:18,854 --> 00:07:20,874 [music] 172 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,560 >> The bass chair in Yes. from the 173 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,560 beginning was always Chris. He played a 174 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,560 Rick and Becker stereo bass which was a 175 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,000 sort of quite a new instrument at the 176 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,479 time. It's got a very hard trebly twangy 177 00:07:34,479 --> 00:07:37,280 sound, a very hard metallic sound. So 178 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,080 almost didn't sound like a bass at some 179 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,160 points. Um it could almost sound like a 180 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,720 guitar. Um Chris would also use 181 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,400 distortion pedals and all kinds of 182 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,400 effects pedals when wonderful things to 183 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,800 even further make the bass much more of 184 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,915 a featured instrument. yesterday 185 00:07:52,915 --> 00:07:53,759 [music and singing] 186 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:56,160 morning. 187 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,160 >> He plays bass very often like a lead 188 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,080 guitar player. He's just got this 189 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,720 phenomenal [music] 190 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 style. It's a very sort of very melodic 191 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,560 bass playing style and very fluid. Um, 192 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,479 you know, he doesn't um it doesn't so 193 00:08:08,479 --> 00:08:10,319 much attack his bass. It's almost kind 194 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:12,240 of like [music] caress the sounds out of 195 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,879 it. His musical knowledge was very good. 196 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:17,520 So, he would choose different root notes 197 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,440 perhaps than somebody who would just 198 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,000 play the chords. The bass wasn't just 199 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,360 sort of your average bass that would 200 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,360 sort of sort of mark time. They were 201 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,680 like flowing runs and lines that were 202 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,759 like almost melodies within themselves. 203 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:31,680 And again, that's like, I think, a real 204 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,120 secret ingredient of Yes. 205 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,120 >> I'm not convinced that just his bass 206 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,120 playing would have made that much of a 207 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,839 difference or an impact on how Yes 208 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:42,880 worked, didn't work, etc., etc. But his 209 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,959 character, his personality certainly 210 00:08:44,959 --> 00:08:47,680 has. Without Chris Squire, yes would 211 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:49,600 have taken off and never really come 212 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,360 back down to earth. So he's very much 213 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,760 the earth mother as it were of the band 214 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,600 which allows John Anderson in particular 215 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,600 to go off on his sort of strange 216 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,279 mystical journeys always knowing [music] 217 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:01,200 that Chris Squire's back on Earth 218 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,800 holding him by string and at any moment 219 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,920 can pull him back and say [music] right 220 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,040 let's get back to the basics. 221 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,279 I wouldn't necessarily describe Tony K 222 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:18,080 as a great uh keyboard player in the 223 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,320 sense of a Rick Waitman or or Keith 224 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Emerson [music] or someone like that. 225 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,160 He's not flamboyant. Uh but he does what 226 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,160 he does very well and he's more 227 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,360 interested in rhythm than than 228 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,519 necessarily in melody. So it gave the 229 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:33,120 group a very good foundation in the 230 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,440 early days. When Tony Kay came to Yes. 231 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,279 he had a strange background. He was with 232 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:39,026 a group called the Federals, who were 233 00:09:39,026 --> 00:09:40,880 [music] basically your run-of-the-mill 234 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,880 60s beat group. And that's why he 235 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,560 concentrated on playing the organ. That 236 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:47,519 was the instrument that he was most easy 237 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:50,560 with. It limited Yes's sound to an 238 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,240 extent, which is why in the end he was 239 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,080 replaced by Rick Wakeakeman. But it also 240 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,560 gave those early tracks a real drive, a 241 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,360 real Hammond organ type push, which gave 242 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,680 them a bit of a soulful 243 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:03,360 edge, and that's something that they 244 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,640 never quite recaptured. 245 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,880 >> He anchors the sound. He's part of the 246 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,720 fabric of the sound and for that reason 247 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,640 he's often overlooked but he's a very 248 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,200 accomplished very competent keyboard 249 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,360 player and he's doing just what's 250 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,519 demanded from the early songs and he he 251 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:19,920 played a very large part in putting yes 252 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,160 on the map. Teddy K was a pianist and an 253 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,480 organist and that's where his forte lay 254 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,320 and in those areas he was particularly 255 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,839 inspiring and when he and Pete Banks the 256 00:10:29,839 --> 00:10:31,920 guitarist combined on the first two 257 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,120 albums there was a tremendous sense of 258 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,760 surge they really did lot together in a 259 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,942 very exciting manner. 260 00:10:39,942 --> 00:10:41,962 >> [music] 261 00:10:47,802 --> 00:10:49,822 [music] 262 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,760 >> Bill Bruford as a drummer is one one of 263 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,600 the greats really. Certainly in this 264 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,240 progressive field. He's very uh highly 265 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,519 influenced with jazz. You know, he's 266 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:00,880 always he's always loved jazz. He's 267 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,959 always enjoyed playing. Um he's [music] 268 00:11:02,959 --> 00:11:05,360 a great great drummer. Um visually very 269 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,452 exciting. He's very expressive. He's 270 00:11:07,452 --> 00:11:09,600 [music] very conversationalist with it 271 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,040 with his playing. You know, he likes to 272 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,760 interact with other instruments. Um he 273 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,160 he has this buzz about his playing. 274 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,440 >> It's very difficult to carve a unique 275 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,440 signature as a drummer, more so than 276 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,600 almost any other instrument. You've got 277 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,680 a very limited pallet, a very limited 278 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:28,320 range of sounds to make your your impact 279 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,079 with. And for somebody like Bill 280 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:32,399 Bruofford who can actually make their 281 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:35,440 impact by the way they place the beat uh 282 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,680 is a huge gift. what he played was 283 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:40,480 played extremely well. Clever drumming, 284 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,720 which is not for everyone's taste and 285 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,480 certainly often not the best thing in a 286 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,560 rock band, but then it's debatable to 287 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:48,320 say whether yes, we're ever a rock band. 288 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,000 >> It was good. It was very technically 289 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,240 perfect, but it's to me like it just 290 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,880 come out of a very good school. I mean, 291 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,440 it was missing the the gut feeling in 292 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,920 it. It was too perfect sometime. I mean 293 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,079 Simba are beautiful but to me it's too 294 00:12:02,079 --> 00:12:05,519 many role too many technical thingy you 295 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:06,560 know here and then 296 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:08,240 >> if they'd had someone who was a little 297 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,320 bit more of a sort of plotting drummer 298 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,839 it wouldn't have had the amount of fire 299 00:12:11,839 --> 00:12:14,560 that the early records have. Um and I I 300 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:16,079 would put a lot of that down to to 301 00:12:16,079 --> 00:12:16,880 Bill's playing. 302 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,680 >> Bill Bruford was 18 when he joined Yes. 303 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:22,123 Um in fact he described himself as being 304 00:12:22,123 --> 00:12:25,920 [music] um an 18-year-old virgin and Yes 305 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,383 was his first girlfriend. [music] 306 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,623 She won't believe in [music] 307 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,079 >> Yes. had done the first album just 308 00:12:38,079 --> 00:12:40,079 called Yes, on their own and they were 309 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:42,160 trying to find a style and a range in a 310 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,240 movement. For the second album, they'd 311 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,079 already decided we want to go in a 312 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:47,839 direction that is very orchestral in 313 00:12:47,839 --> 00:12:50,000 style and sound. They wanted to be the 314 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,160 modern Stravinsky in some respects. 315 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,920 >> They had a little bit more courage now. 316 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,680 They made one record. the record [music] 317 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:57,600 company hadn't dropped them, you know, 318 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,680 and so their experiments were beginning 319 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:01,920 to pay off. They were starting to get a 320 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,760 fan base. People were coming to the 321 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,319 shows. It was up and running. 322 00:13:07,319 --> 00:13:09,339 [music] 323 00:13:14,524 --> 00:13:16,544 [music] 324 00:13:19,109 --> 00:13:19,120 >> [music] 325 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,399 >> I know you cross the earth with every 326 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:25,120 step. 327 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,440 >> No opportunity necessary, no experience 328 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,000 needed with the Richie Haven song. I 329 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,760 think he'd have been surprised to hear 330 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,160 it start with a 331 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,794 hefty organ burst followed by some 332 00:13:36,794 --> 00:13:40,160 [music] wild swirling strings and then 333 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,519 Chris Squire's zooming baseline. 334 00:13:44,654 --> 00:13:44,959 >> [music] 335 00:13:44,959 --> 00:13:49,120 >> So the life you lead you won't believe 336 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,279 the roy 337 00:13:52,514 --> 00:13:54,000 [music] 338 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,040 they were looking at lush harmonies. 339 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,199 They were looking at almost vagerian 340 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:00,880 instrumentation 341 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,519 rising falling crescendos 342 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:06,000 diminuendos a mixture of classical and 343 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,199 pop music. It's the way they they they 344 00:14:09,199 --> 00:14:10,959 meld 345 00:14:10,959 --> 00:14:14,560 a Richie Haven song with I think it's um 346 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:18,560 the theme music to um the big country 347 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,199 um the old film. 348 00:14:21,199 --> 00:14:23,760 >> I think that's an interesting thing. 349 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,574 >> This one piece will make 52 layers. 350 00:14:26,574 --> 00:14:27,040 [music] 351 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,680 >> Watch on mobile devices or the big 352 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,920 screen. All for free. No [music] 353 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,399 subscription required. 354 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:51,760 It was uh unexpected. So I mean we were 355 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,920 over overcrowded with you know pop 356 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,320 music. It was very cheesy. I mean they 357 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,015 came and they make a difference to many 358 00:14:58,015 --> 00:14:59,600 [music] people. You make them discover 359 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,560 oh it could be that way too. The problem 360 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,079 was [music] that they didn't quite bring 361 00:15:04,079 --> 00:15:06,160 it off and the orchestra ends up 362 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,519 sounding as if they were trying to do 363 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:08,880 something completely [music] different. 364 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,560 And when the orchestra did the big 365 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,959 country theme, it's so out of context, 366 00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:14,480 it makes you sit back and think, [music] 367 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,120 "What the hell are they trying to do?" 368 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,120 Later on on Time and the Word, 369 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,959 particularly with a track called Astral 370 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:22,880 Traveler, it did work a lot better. But 371 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,440 by that time, they'd adapted and relaxed 372 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,240 into using an orchestra. 373 00:15:32,075 --> 00:15:34,095 >> [music] 374 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,959 >> Without question, time and a word was 375 00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:43,040 was a a big improvement on the first 376 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,720 album. The band were now beginning to 377 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,399 find their feet musically [music] 378 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:49,199 and they were able to present a much 379 00:15:49,199 --> 00:15:51,759 more mature sound. We were definitely 380 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,160 moving towards the classic Yes. sound. 381 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,959 the songs were more puffed up um and 382 00:15:56,959 --> 00:15:59,920 they used uh classical orchestral 383 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,360 musicians to get the more pompous sound 384 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,440 that they were looking for. But it was 385 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,040 done with a sort of naivity and 386 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,120 innocence that really is the album's 387 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,120 saving grace. I think they overstretched 388 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,720 themselves with the second album. It had 389 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,480 its moments. There's a very good cover 390 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,440 called Everydays on on the record which 391 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,279 uh they did quite well. There's also 392 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:21,279 Astral Traveler and the Prophet which 393 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:24,240 really started to hone down where yes, 394 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,120 we're going to go in the future, but in 395 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,736 reality it was a patchy record. [music] 396 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,720 It was better technically. It was better 397 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,360 recording. It was it was more well 398 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,079 thought album. They they of the sound 399 00:16:46,079 --> 00:16:47,920 you know not just the beautiful music 400 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,160 they of all the sound will will will get 401 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,079 out of the speaker. The separation 402 00:16:52,079 --> 00:16:54,320 between the instrument the vocal was a 403 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,639 lot more prominent in up front. It was 404 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:58,160 more sensual. [music] 405 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,560 >> John Anderson um had started to develop 406 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,799 his science fiction lyrical style um 407 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:08,720 which would become more cosmic as time 408 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,480 went on. 409 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,079 I didn't think it was as good as the 410 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:14,160 debut album. Personally, it wasn't bad. 411 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,559 I mean, some very interesting tracks on 412 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:18,480 there, but as a as an album to listen to 413 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,160 today, I still prefer the debut album. 414 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,919 The other problem they had was that Pete 415 00:17:23,919 --> 00:17:25,600 Banks was doing things that they weren't 416 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,439 quite happy with. Far more jazzy things, 417 00:17:27,439 --> 00:17:29,760 far more extra exploratory things that 418 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,840 were exciting and probably the best 419 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,919 performances on the second album, Kate 420 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:35,840 from Pete Banks, but it was clear that 421 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,280 he was going in a different direction to 422 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,039 the band. So by the time the second 423 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:41,440 album came out, not only was Pete Banks 424 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,520 out of the band, he was off the cover of 425 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,120 the album and his replacement Steve How 426 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:46,559 was photographed there even though he 427 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:47,679 had nothing to [music] do with the 428 00:17:47,679 --> 00:17:50,679 record. 429 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,600 One of the main men in Yes's early years 430 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,520 was Pete Banks, the original guitar 431 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,679 player, but it was literally when he was 432 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:06,160 replaced by Steve How that Yes kicked 433 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,120 into gear. 434 00:18:11,897 --> 00:18:13,917 >> [music] 435 00:18:18,447 --> 00:18:20,467 [music] 436 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:24,720 >> Steve [music] how the guitar player uh 437 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,280 brought lots of things to Yes. Uh first 438 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,360 and foremost a great technical ability 439 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:31,840 as a guitar player but a very all round 440 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,120 guitar player. [music] You can hear and 441 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:35,440 he's playing and and all the yes stuff, 442 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,799 country, bit of jazz, rock and roll, bit 443 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:40,400 of funk, bit of Hendricks going on, a 444 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,840 bit of classical [music] and 445 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,600 experimental stuff as well. Not even 446 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,280 jazz, just experimental sound, 447 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,288 soundscape stuff. [music] 448 00:18:49,679 --> 00:18:50,960 He stretched their musicality to the 449 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,919 very limit um by his inventiveness as a 450 00:18:53,919 --> 00:18:56,320 soloist also as a writer. I think he 451 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,420 expanded the band as well. I think 452 00:18:58,420 --> 00:18:59,919 [music] once he started writing with 453 00:18:59,919 --> 00:19:01,919 John Anderson that really changed sort 454 00:19:01,919 --> 00:19:06,200 of shaping the sort of classic yes sound 455 00:19:08,883 --> 00:19:10,903 [music] 456 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,480 on the yes album. It just bang there you 457 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,039 go it's whoa where did this all come 458 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:18,640 from kind of thing you know that album 459 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,328 put them on the map. 460 00:19:21,328 --> 00:19:23,348 [music] 461 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,160 when we put our music together, it's 462 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,600 what I've got and what's [music] John's 463 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,760 got and what the other guys have got, 464 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,480 you know? I mean, somebody has done 465 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,840 this, can [music] you write the best 466 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,520 song in the world today, Steve? You 467 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,440 know, I'd say, what are you doing? You 468 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,280 know, I've got some stuff and some of it 469 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,160 is pretty good. [music] You know what I 470 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,760 mean? So, there's that confidence you've 471 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,080 got to have about yourself. So, the way 472 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,919 that you come to that fruition and when 473 00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:48,240 the things start to marry together in 474 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,840 the arrangement [music] is when people 475 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,520 are delivering the best things they've 476 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,520 got. 477 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,160 The Yes album is the first album really 478 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,360 to show the full potential of the band. 479 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:04,640 There are no more covers on this album. 480 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,240 Instead there are six quite long complex 481 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,320 songs of their own [snorts] 482 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,280 um which have complicated arrangements 483 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,160 um a series of different moods all 484 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,934 contrived but all working towards 485 00:20:20,934 --> 00:20:24,640 [music] a single aim. The day of morning 486 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,139 gave a smile upon your face. 487 00:20:28,139 --> 00:20:29,039 [music] 488 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:30,640 Jesus 489 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,240 morning glory city 490 00:20:35,999 --> 00:20:37,120 [music] 491 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:40,120 gent. 492 00:20:40,584 --> 00:20:42,604 [music] 493 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,960 Yours is no [music] disgrace. 494 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,200 Yours is no disgrace was the real start 495 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,840 of Yes. It had multi-layered harmonies, 496 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,240 had different aspects to the music that 497 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,880 were very confident. It had moods in a 498 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,120 way. It had movements as well as moods. 499 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:03,039 And it was a lengthy piece that allowed 500 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:06,129 Yes. to stretch out. 501 00:21:06,129 --> 00:21:07,600 [music] 502 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,919 Yours is No disgrace is a is a kind of 503 00:21:09,919 --> 00:21:12,024 miniature symphony if you deconstruct 504 00:21:12,024 --> 00:21:14,880 [music] it. It works at so many levels 505 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,760 and and it's no surprise it's become a 506 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,080 standard for the set over the last 30 507 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,000 years. 508 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,640 It was simple, but it was also very very 509 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,089 clever. And it it's a shame in some ways 510 00:21:27,089 --> 00:21:28,720 [music] that bands don't try and record 511 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,440 tracks of that sort of minor epic 512 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,880 length. I think it was what 10 11 513 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,679 minutes. It worked so well. It had a 514 00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:38,559 flow to it. It had um a bounce had 515 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:40,000 element of [music] rock, a lot of 516 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,320 progressive rock. Um but it had a lot of 517 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,429 melody in it as well. 518 00:21:45,429 --> 00:21:45,679 [music] 519 00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:48,799 >> It starts very sort of small and um then 520 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:50,640 within sort of a minute has got 521 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,799 absolutely huge. There's sort of two or 522 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:54,240 three sort of monster riffs going on 523 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,600 where the [music] guitar and the bass 524 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,840 both sort of play the riff together. And 525 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,360 um it's exquisite. It's very very 526 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:03,039 exciting. And um again Anson's voice 527 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:04,720 which is probably the highest he's ever 528 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,080 sung I think. Um it's almost 529 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,480 unbelievably high. Um that brings great 530 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,630 tension and drama to the music. 531 00:22:11,630 --> 00:22:11,919 >> [music] 532 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:14,919 >> summer 533 00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:18,159 [music] 534 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:21,159 music 535 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,400 not this great asking again [music] 536 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,480 technology have to do with it because 537 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,159 each time they came with a new album 538 00:22:28,159 --> 00:22:30,000 technology was different it was getting 539 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,840 better plus they also knew [music] 540 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,880 their sound they knew more who they were 541 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,360 or to work together and that could be 542 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:38,500 could be heard in the music because 543 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:39,600 [music] he was getting more 544 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,159 sophisticated it more better arrange. 545 00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:45,520 >> Finally, yes found their range and their 546 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,080 mark. See all good people [music] turn 547 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,440 their heads to stay soisfied 548 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,080 on my way. 549 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,600 See all [music] good people turn their 550 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,755 heads so 551 00:23:00,755 --> 00:23:02,159 [music] 552 00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:04,799 >> in a song like you move all good people. 553 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:06,720 It's it's a classic example of [music] 554 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,760 Yes's willingness to change mood, to 555 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,880 change tempo, to shift the song to take 556 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840 us into to different areas. Uh, and it's 557 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,400 a very subtle approach that the band 558 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,840 has. The harmonies [music] on your move 559 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,520 are woven tightly together into various 560 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,559 patterns and into also different layers. 561 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:30,720 And the effect is really to produce a 562 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,816 sort of shimmering vocal landscape. 563 00:23:34,816 --> 00:23:36,836 >> [music] 564 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:39,401 >> No 565 00:23:39,401 --> 00:23:40,056 [music] 566 00:23:40,056 --> 00:23:42,880 [singing] time to start time with your 567 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,960 time 568 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,971 is captured. [music] 569 00:23:53,156 --> 00:23:53,919 [music] 570 00:23:53,919 --> 00:23:56,080 >> The basic ingredients of this track is a 571 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,960 three chord trick which is [music] 572 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,120 E major and then A over an E root. 573 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:05,440 That's an A major. Then a B major over 574 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,679 an E root. [music] And back to an A 575 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:09,919 major over an E root. That's the first 576 00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:11,496 section. 577 00:24:11,496 --> 00:24:13,516 [music] 578 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,679 And on this one as well, which is really 579 00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:19,679 nice, is uh the bass [music] player um 580 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:22,631 harmonizes the chords to create much 581 00:24:22,631 --> 00:24:24,640 [music] more of a sort of Bach like 582 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,240 sequence. 583 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,760 Then the second section gets a little 584 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,919 more clever. The second section goes to 585 00:24:29,919 --> 00:24:33,039 E. [music] Then it goes to an A with a 586 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,360 first inversion on the bass. Then it 587 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,480 goes to an E over a B [music] 588 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,282 to an A major. Then to an E with a 589 00:24:42,282 --> 00:24:45,760 [music] G sharp root, then to an F sharp 590 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,400 minor, then an E with [music] a G sharp 591 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,360 root, back to an A major. 592 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:55,880 As I said, very Bach like 593 00:24:56,037 --> 00:24:58,057 [music] 594 00:25:00,622 --> 00:25:02,642 [music] 595 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,960 very typical of Yes. Uh [music] somebody 596 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,200 would hold a chord sequence and the 597 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,799 keyboard player or the bass player would 598 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,559 actually move around musically 599 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:14,559 underneath. So one person would [music] 600 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:16,880 would play the main structure and other 601 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,679 people would add and harmonize and 602 00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:21,360 remove and you know create different 603 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,360 sort of feels by doing that. This is the 604 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,480 great um a great example of really of 605 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,360 how skillful yes are. People always 606 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:30,960 assume that there are lots of different 607 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,840 changes of key and time signature and 608 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,880 all that kind of thing. Not [music] 609 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,720 necessarily the case. you get the 610 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,559 impression that the keys have changed 611 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,559 and because of the the different tempos 612 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:42,559 of the song you find almost as if it's a 613 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,640 different uh time signature but it's 614 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,559 just really how Bill Bruofford again 615 00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,360 very skillfully places his accents in 616 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:51,120 different places and gives you that 617 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,679 sense of a shift but a lot of yes's 618 00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:58,317 music is actually like that [music] 619 00:26:03,502 --> 00:26:04,799 [music] 620 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:06,799 >> this was music that they'd been seeing 621 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:09,760 and hearing if not always being able to 622 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,520 capture in the studio. Now all [music] 623 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,400 of a sudden they were doing it. 624 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,960 >> They'd learned I think from time of the 625 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,000 word they put a lot of sort of 626 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,240 orchestral strings on and that didn't 627 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,080 particularly work. It sort of was sort 628 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,080 of really kind of ultra pompous and 629 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,159 there is a pompous side to yes but in a 630 00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:34,159 nice way. I think they learned well that 631 00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:36,799 they were using string parts but not an 632 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:38,640 actual live orchestra. Um they were 633 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,039 using like keyboard strings. The problem 634 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:44,000 was yes wanted a keyboard player who was 635 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,559 also accomplished on synthesizer. That 636 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:49,840 was not Tony K's forte. So sadly 637 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,440 although he was very much prevalent on 638 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440 the first three albums his time was very 639 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,320 much up with Yes when they moved into a 640 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,200 more classical oriented style. The irony 641 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,960 being Tony Kay came from a classical 642 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,400 background but it was the wrong 643 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,720 classical background. His grounding as a 644 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,080 pianist meant he was part of an 645 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,240 orchestra. Yes. Wanted him to be the 646 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,120 orchestra. 647 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,679 >> Mr. Rick Weightman. 648 00:27:12,933 --> 00:27:14,953 [music] 649 00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:21,120 >> Rick Waitman brought um a huge increase 650 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:23,200 in the [music] range of sounds available 651 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,799 to Yes. Whereas Tony Kay had really only 652 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,559 used three keyboards, [music] 653 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,640 um, Rick Waitman had a dozen racked 654 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,640 around him and they weren't just for 655 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,400 show either. He played them all. [music] 656 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,039 This really sort of heady brew of sort 657 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:39,200 of technospace rock that yes, [music] 658 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,919 we're kind of developing at the time. 659 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:43,360 Wakeman probably just thought, "Oh, 660 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:44,320 great. This [music] is something to get 661 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,200 my teeth into." 662 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,640 Rick Wakeakeman played with the group 663 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,799 called the Strobs who'd supported Yes. 664 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,120 quite regularly so they knew exactly 665 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,120 what he was capable of. He was somebody 666 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,960 who could play piano. If you remember 667 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,880 Cat Stevens Morning has broken. That was 668 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,159 Rick on the keyboards. He also played on 669 00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:08,399 Bow's Hunky Dory. He [music] could play 670 00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:10,399 organ. He also played the meatron which 671 00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:12,559 was a huge instrument with tape loops a 672 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,279 kind of primitive sampler. He basically 673 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:16,720 was game to play anything and 674 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,089 everything. 675 00:28:19,089 --> 00:28:20,159 [music] 676 00:28:20,159 --> 00:28:23,279 >> Quickman was the keyboard man. He was he 677 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,600 was out of it. He were like a a man 678 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,760 living this dream on stage no matter 679 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,399 what. He just didn't care. He was coming 680 00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,399 in the band and say here we go. I can do 681 00:28:32,399 --> 00:28:34,000 that. I'm going to give you that and 682 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,399 voila. 683 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:37,600 >> He probably turned Yes. to a fairly 684 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600 complex band anyway into even more 685 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,600 complex arrangements and sort of longer 686 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,440 more epic kind of pieces. 687 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,840 >> In the studio was where he really gave 688 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,760 yes the edge because he could link 689 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,760 themes and he could nip things together. 690 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,960 He could come up with 20 chord sequences 691 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,279 to use for a particular song. He was 692 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,279 basically sketching out a root map for 693 00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:58,960 the others to follow. 694 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,760 Fragile is the [music] first album from 695 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,240 what's regarded as the classic yes 696 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,560 lineup of John Anderson, Chris Squire, 697 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,600 [music] Steve How, Rick Weightman, and 698 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,720 Bill Bruofford. 699 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,279 >> And we were very honest about the state 700 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:14,765 of the band even though we didn't 701 00:29:14,765 --> 00:29:17,760 [music] say the band is fragile. We just 702 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,559 called the album fragile. But that was 703 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:21,200 about [music] 704 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,279 okay. So Bill did see it on the flight 705 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,279 case and kind of go why don't we call it 706 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:28,279 fragile? 707 00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:37,090 >> [music] 708 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,240 >> I'll be around about 709 00:29:48,825 --> 00:29:50,845 [music] 710 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,360 I think Roundabout as a song brought 711 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,200 together everything that Yes had been 712 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,200 trying to do for years. [music] There's 713 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,679 fantastic instrumentation in there, 714 00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:03,200 wonderful vocals, um, very clever, tight 715 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,080 arrangement, and huge amounts of energy. 716 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,000 We bring all of the elements of, yes, 717 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,520 all of the skills in terms of 718 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,840 composition and playing, and we boil it 719 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,480 down to this 9 10 minute song, which 720 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,559 contains all of the great musical 721 00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:19,200 hallmarks of this band. The rhythms are 722 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,360 big and [music] bouncy and the vocals 723 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,480 are fluid and melodic and it's Whitman's 724 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,640 keyboards [music] that act as a bridge 725 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,200 between the two. 726 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,320 >> What happens is uh when the band comes 727 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,080 comes in, you get this [music] really 728 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,159 kind of great classic rock and roll rift 729 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:37,840 coming in. Uh you got the acoustic 730 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,799 guitar [music] which gives it a real 731 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,799 lift, a real lively kind of driving vibe 732 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:42,880 to it. Um and the bass and drums are 733 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,521 just straight ahead. [music] 734 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,880 I'll be there. [music] 735 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,240 >> It's got all sorts of different elements 736 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,760 in it. It's got a bit of rock and roll. 737 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,880 It's got a sort of melodic vocal thing. 738 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,120 Uh it's got a bit of funk going on in 739 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,151 there. A typical track uh of Yes. 740 00:31:04,151 --> 00:31:04,799 [music] 741 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,080 About 3 and a half minutes into the 742 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,000 song, you get a new new motive coming 743 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,399 through. you get this repetitive unison 744 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:12,080 riff uh played on the bass and the 745 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,880 guitars um structured in a four bar 746 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,039 phrase. But what what's happened is that 747 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,559 they've given it a new color by adding 748 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,880 lots of percussion. You've got shakers, 749 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,600 cowbells, tambourines. 750 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,640 >> Musically, I mean, it does what it says. 751 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,200 It kind of it it goes around and around. 752 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,039 It's it's got that kind of rhythm to it. 753 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:36,960 It's it's very satisfying song to listen 754 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,211 to. 755 00:31:38,211 --> 00:31:40,231 >> [music] 756 00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:46,740 >> Fragile is probably the first great Yes. 757 00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:48,399 [music] album. There's a sense of 758 00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:50,799 inspiration. Everything about that album 759 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:52,960 gelled and fitted. Roundabout song 760 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,399 there. Heart of the sunrise. Longd 761 00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:56,320 distance runaround. All they're all 762 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,399 there. All these fantastic songs. 763 00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:00,159 >> Longdistance Runaround is a song that's 764 00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:01,679 it's only about three and a half, four 765 00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:04,480 minutes in length, but it's it's very 766 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880 very very well created. It's um they've 767 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,960 got some quite quite complex things 768 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,039 happening in this song which which work 769 00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:13,039 very well. It initially comes in with 770 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:14,960 this guitar riff and this is a little 771 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,799 melody that's played in harmony between 772 00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:19,760 the guitar and the keyboard. Uh and 773 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,320 basically what it is is it starts off 774 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,440 with an a [music] C arpeggio 775 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,000 harmonized and then it goes to a [music] 776 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,880 B flat major 7th chord and then it runs 777 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,559 up arpeggios of G back up to the C 778 00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:36,880 again. So there's basically three chords 779 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,360 on this tune, which is your C, your B 780 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,640 flat major 7th, and your G. 781 00:32:51,572 --> 00:32:53,592 [music] 782 00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:00,797 >> [music] 783 00:33:07,947 --> 00:33:08,159 [music] 784 00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:10,240 >> It makes it special first of all because 785 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,240 of the harmonies between the guitar and 786 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,840 the keyboard playing it. And there's a 787 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,200 little bit of jazz in there as well. 788 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000 Django Reinhardt 789 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,919 with a bit of swing to it. Sort of gypsy 790 00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:22,480 swing to it. Um, and also the use of the 791 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,720 arpeggios running up both instruments 792 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,200 playing them together. 793 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,360 It's quite [music] unusual certainly for 794 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,320 the time. Uh it was called progressive 795 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,919 rot and it that was musically very 796 00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:40,360 progressive for that period of time. 797 00:33:47,903 --> 00:33:50,000 [music] And then when Bruford comes in 798 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,480 he gives this show tempo fast two 799 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,279 effect. He does this by, you know, um a 800 00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,919 constant uh four on the on the bass drum 801 00:33:57,919 --> 00:33:59,519 and he's giving all the offbeats on the 802 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:00,880 ride symbol. So that [music] that 803 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,559 immediately gives it that kind of show 804 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:05,120 tempo type almost comic element [music] 805 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,399 to this to the beginning of this song. 806 00:34:12,138 --> 00:34:14,079 [music] 807 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:19,359 Long distance run around. 808 00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:21,359 Long time [music] 809 00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:24,560 waiting to feel. 810 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,720 >> Long distance runaround again has all of 811 00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:29,839 the quirky musical hallmarks of yes C 812 00:34:29,839 --> 00:34:31,919 major. Very straightforward key. [music] 813 00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:33,839 Four beats in the bar but in the hands 814 00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:35,280 of Bill Bruofford. It sounds like 815 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,993 something totally distinctive. 816 00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:41,013 [music] 817 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,599 in the sunshine. 818 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,520 >> The only time we change key is when the 819 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,839 verse is introduced and we introduce the 820 00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:54,079 two sharps as John Anderson begins to 821 00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,399 sing. But uh that's all there is. But 822 00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:58,160 when you hear the song, it sounds as if 823 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,760 we've we've been playing around with 824 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,000 keys and time signatures. But nothing 825 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,359 could really be further from the truth. 826 00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:04,800 There's only one change in the whole 827 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,839 song. the the the age-old gag thrown at 828 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:10,960 Prague rock bands is um you know that 829 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,240 everything lasted four days and you know 830 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,240 yes we're a perfect example of a band 831 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,079 who could stretch out when they felt the 832 00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:21,200 need. Perhaps there is an argument later 833 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,079 down the line that they stretched out 834 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:25,839 for the hell of it when they didn't need 835 00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:28,880 to. But they could also [music] write a 836 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,720 complete piece of music that lasted 3 837 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,480 minutes. There's a sense on the 838 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,560 production where Anderson really is just 839 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,560 sold, [music] go in there, do what you 840 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,920 have to do, we'll build everything 841 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,280 around you. And this is one of the 842 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,680 tracks that really underlines what John 843 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,440 Anderson was about because yes, we're 844 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,880 learning to adapt their style to 845 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,459 Anderson. He became the lynchpin of the 846 00:35:46,459 --> 00:35:47,760 [music] band, the most important member 847 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,680 of the band. And the rest were starting 848 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,760 to learn that and starting to fit in 849 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,119 with it. And there was no sense of 850 00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,280 egotism. There was no sense of why 851 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,640 should he be the main person in the 852 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,920 band. They [music] knew how important 853 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,839 John Anderson was and they were adapting 854 00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:01,359 to him. 855 00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:04,800 I [music] still remember the dream 856 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,560 there. 857 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,680 I still remember [music] 858 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,320 you said goodbye. 859 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,079 >> Fragile is absolutely one of the best. 860 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,589 It was like it's a masterpiece is 861 00:36:16,589 --> 00:36:18,880 [music] you know it's well put together 862 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,079 is I don't know it's well arranged it's 863 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,480 very well produced a great recording for 864 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,320 the technology at that time and you can 865 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,640 see it's a heart in it. It's not just 866 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,400 beautiful music. They put a heart in it. 867 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,720 You put the love of music in it. And I'm 868 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:35,040 sure people, you know, notice that 869 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,040 >> Fragile probably doesn't have the 870 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,800 consistency or the flare of Close to the 871 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,800 Edge. Um, it was made up of individual 872 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480 compositions along with group 873 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,599 compositions and there are a couple of 874 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:53,119 tracks that um are below par frankly. 875 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,040 Um, but perhaps the most interesting 876 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,599 thing is that the band themselves, you 877 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:01,280 can tell, are not yet sure of how far 878 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920 they can stretch themselves. And you get 879 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,839 the feeling that there is still more to 880 00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:10,119 go, which [music] indeed there was. 881 00:37:14,885 --> 00:37:16,560 [music] 882 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,880 >> There was more to Yes. than just the the 883 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,280 musicians and the music, you know. There 884 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,680 was uh there was a lot of teamwork 885 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,760 behind the scenes that brought 886 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,480 originality. 887 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,800 >> In the era before we had videos, album 888 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,880 sleeves were the best way for a band to 889 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,760 get their image, their message across to 890 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,200 give you something that wasn't contained 891 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,680 in the grooves. And when Yes. linked in 892 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,920 with Roger [music] Dean, they obviously 893 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,520 brought a new dimension to what they 894 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,706 were trying to portray. 895 00:37:43,706 --> 00:37:45,726 [music] 896 00:37:51,566 --> 00:37:53,586 >> [music] 897 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,160 >> As you can see behind me here, the Roger 898 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,960 Dean's uh artwork played a huge part in 899 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,599 establishing the identity for a band 900 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,119 like Yes. his his landscapes are on one 901 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,960 hand abstract and otherworldly, but at 902 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,400 the same time there's a there's an air 903 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,800 of familiarity about them. And I think 904 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,079 that that's struck a chord very closely 905 00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:19,359 with with the music. 906 00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:21,280 >> So, you know, miraculously, not only was 907 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,680 the music right, but the look of the 908 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,480 record was right, too. This this fragile 909 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,200 world that Roger uh had drawn for us, 910 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,640 you know, looked like it really looked 911 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,240 like something, you know, when combined 912 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,200 with our music and the emergence of the 913 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,200 beginnings of the logo started to come 914 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,680 out. So all of a sudden, yes, not only 915 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,839 had the music and the opening to to 916 00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:44,079 chart in America, but also we had a look 917 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:45,839 >> cuz their first three albums, whatever 918 00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:47,520 you think musically, the sleeves are 919 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,680 rubbish. They really were awful. This 920 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,800 was the first time they [music] had a 921 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,320 sleeve that represented where they could 922 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,480 be going. Roger Dean was a visionary in 923 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,640 the way he presented his art and also 924 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,240 reflected the music. They were busy, 925 00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,359 they were interesting, they were 926 00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:00,720 fascinating, but they were never 927 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,640 cluttered and [music] they made you want 928 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,720 to look at the sleeve while hearing the 929 00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:05,280 music. 930 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,119 >> It was a piece of art. It was so well 931 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,599 made, so well [music] draw and I'm sure 932 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:11,119 people put it in the world just for the 933 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:13,520 picture cuz he was beautiful and it's 934 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,280 why he stay with Yes for so many album 935 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,839 because it's like for a while if you 936 00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:20,640 didn't see that that that that painting 937 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,960 on the on the on the [music] Yes album, 938 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,160 it wasn't on Yes. the the uh Yes album, 939 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,079 Fragile 940 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,359 um Close to the Edge kind of trilogy W 941 00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:34,480 was establishing uh the styles and the 942 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,119 direction of Yes. and Roger was doing 943 00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:38,160 that visually. 944 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,480 >> The inner sleeve of the Close to the 945 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,640 Edge album with its endless waterfalls 946 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,839 constantly flowing um is almost an 947 00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:49,760 essential [music] visual aid for 948 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,560 listening to the track. 949 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,072 Close [music] 950 00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:04,587 [music] 951 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,440 to the Edge is a is a is a real epic. 952 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,520 It's over 18 minutes in length and is 953 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,680 divided into five or six different 954 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,160 sections. Um, initially you get this 955 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,320 kind of just just sounds, guitar [music] 956 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,560 sounds and and very quiet opening and 957 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,200 then suddenly it it crashes into this 958 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,359 what at first sounds very frantic, very 959 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:29,760 kind of hectic, all fast playing. 960 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,760 Everyone's playing at once, but actually 961 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,119 on listening to it, it's [music] not 962 00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:34,960 quite as complex as it seems. The bass 963 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,280 guitar and the bass drum are both um 964 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,800 just playing on beats one and three of 965 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,839 the bar um which gives it a very simple, 966 00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:44,800 grounded feeling. Um what Bill Bruford 967 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,760 is doing with his with his hands uh on 968 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,839 the symbols gives it the sense of 969 00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:51,359 urgency. He's doing a lot of double 970 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:52,960 time, a lot of bouncing on the symbols 971 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,760 with his sticks. 972 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,920 >> There's a sense of discovery about the 973 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,800 track. Um as much for the band as for 974 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,599 the listener in terms of the shape and 975 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,119 the form that it took. This is complex 976 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:08,480 music being played with real gusto and 977 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,000 it stands the test of time 978 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,240 magnificently. Close to the edge was a 979 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,960 song that I began writing literally 980 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,599 about living next to the river tames you 981 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,400 know so but John converted that into a 982 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,920 song about the world if you like and 983 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,920 that's that I suppose that's an 984 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,000 indication of 985 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,400 artists working together is that you by 986 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,240 the time you've pulled a couple of ideas 987 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,599 you haven't got something that's twice 988 00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,440 as good as the first idea you've got 989 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,480 something that's multiples 990 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000 season. 991 00:41:46,058 --> 00:41:48,078 [music] 992 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,560 >> The next section of the song is uh is 993 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,280 split up by um the bass and [music] 994 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,680 drums playing this 34 groove. Again, a 995 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,920 great use of 34. It's quirky, 996 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,640 imaginative, uh not often used by many 997 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,240 bands. Um, so they they have this 998 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,960 grounded 34 groove when over the top you 999 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,040 have this vocal melody which is actually 1000 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,760 in 68. Um, but [music] it's double time 1001 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,839 as well. So it gives it this really 1002 00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:17,760 great crossing over feeling between 1003 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,139 vocals and rhythm. [music] 1004 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,040 >> Just a great piece of music [music] to 1005 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,800 listen to. 20 odd minutes of a mixture 1006 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,440 of tranquility and chaos. There's lots 1007 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,800 of uh time signatures uh where the tempo 1008 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,119 changes and completely new tempo starts. 1009 00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:41,079 Uh there's lots of key changes. Um 1010 00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:42,400 [music] just bouncing around all over 1011 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,079 the place, but somehow they managed to 1012 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,880 make it a sort of a very sort of 1013 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,440 congenial hole and sound. It sounds 1014 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,560 actually very organic. 1015 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,480 >> 6 minutes into the song, you get this 1016 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,000 real twist with it because the bass and 1017 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,480 the drums are now playing in 44. Same 1018 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,560 tempo, but four beats in a bar. So 1019 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,480 they've got this two bar phrase where 1020 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,000 the bass and the drums are doing this 1021 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,480 kind of dark funky funky sounding riff 1022 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,000 which sounds great. [music] Then over 1023 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,680 the top you've got this same melody that 1024 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,209 was used before in 34 but the melody is 1025 00:43:11,209 --> 00:43:13,760 [music] in 68 and it keeps on going. So 1026 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,079 what you're getting is the effect is is 1027 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,319 overlapping phrases. The vocals are 1028 00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:20,380 continuing while the bass and drums 1029 00:43:20,380 --> 00:43:22,319 [music] ends and starts a new phrase. 1030 00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:24,160 Then the vocals will end halfway through 1031 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,640 a drum and bass phrase. Um eventually it 1032 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,079 meets at the end but it's very very 1033 00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:31,570 clever writing. [music] 1034 00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,880 >> It wasn't gibberish. It was them trying 1035 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,920 to do different things. Um there was and 1036 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,280 a lot of soundscape what we'd call 1037 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,200 nowadays soundsscape was going on that 1038 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,160 didn't have that name in those days. Um 1039 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,079 I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece but I 1040 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:53,680 say it's a very interesting piece of 1041 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,599 music. Close to the edges is really is 1042 00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:57,680 truly a masterpiece. Um it's probably my 1043 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,200 favorite yes song. It's um it's a real 1044 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,880 epic, you know, it's [music] just when 1045 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,720 you think it's maybe the end must be 1046 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:07,520 close or it starts to die down a little 1047 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,520 bit. It's way back and [music] it's a 1048 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,920 whole new section. 1049 00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:29,200 >> [music] 1050 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,119 >> About 14 minutes into the song, we've 1051 00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:32,480 we've just been left with this huge 1052 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,720 organ sound. Um, sounds like, you know, 1053 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,720 massive cathedral organ. And then it 1054 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:38,980 goes into this high energy um really 1055 00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:41,359 [music] kind of 68 vibe that's going on. 1056 00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:42,880 And what you've got is the drums. 1057 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,520 They're doing this high um kind of 1058 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,151 urgent sounding uh drumming by he's he's 1059 00:44:48,151 --> 00:44:49,359 [music] using the symbols and the high 1060 00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:51,680 hats. Um but he's predominantly really 1061 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,839 centering it around the snare drum. He's 1062 00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:56,160 he's uh doing very very quick kind of 1063 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,640 sex tup semiquavers on the snare drum. 1064 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,560 Um giving this constant energy running 1065 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,839 throughout [music] the whole whole 1066 00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:05,400 section of this song. 1067 00:45:07,801 --> 00:45:09,821 [music] 1068 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,760 By the time they were recorded um this 1069 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,319 track, their studio [music] 1070 00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:22,240 technology and their studio knowledge 1071 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:24,480 was was vast. They really had um they 1072 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,400 knew what they [music] were doing. So um 1073 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,680 there's all kinds of wizardry that goes 1074 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,000 on 1075 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,920 >> in some respects. Yes. Were allowing 1076 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,400 their own ambition to outstretch what 1077 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,720 could be achieved at the time. Their 1078 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:36,880 music on Close to the Edge was ahead of 1079 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,240 what could be done technically or 1080 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,160 technologically right back then in the 1081 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,000 early '7s, but it's still got its 1082 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,839 wonderful moments. The fact is though, 1083 00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:45,760 you can't have something as huge as that 1084 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,319 that lasts as long as it does that works 1085 00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:50,640 all the way through the edge. It's a 1086 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,160 good song, but I don't call it a 1087 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,359 masterpiece. It's missing something. 1088 00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:57,760 It's missing the gut feeling it was in 1089 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,319 the song. It's missing the sensuality of 1090 00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:02,640 it. And that again maybe due to the 1091 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,960 production he maybe went too creamy on 1092 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,406 it. 1093 00:46:07,406 --> 00:46:09,426 [music] 1094 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,680 >> When I asked Rick Wakeakeman which yes 1095 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,839 tracks encapsulated [music] what they 1096 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,400 were about in the early period. He said 1097 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,319 two tracks. He said, "Awaken or close to 1098 00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:23,200 the edge?" Because he felt both of them 1099 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,680 basically started [music] and finished 1100 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,440 when the inspiration struck and when it 1101 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,119 ended and in between times went off on 1102 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:30,720 as many tangents as it [music] wanted 1103 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:36,440 to, but without pushing things too far. 1104 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,720 All three pieces of music off of um 1105 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,040 Close to the Edge are all masterpieces. 1106 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,480 Close to the Edge and You and I, 1107 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,319 Siberian Carter. What I'm going to do 1108 00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:50,880 now is illustrate uh a little bit of a 1109 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,560 track called Siberian Catru. And uh it's 1110 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,720 very typical of a Steve how lick a riff. 1111 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,920 Um and what he would do uh generally in 1112 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,160 in a lot of Yes. songs, he he'd have a 1113 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,119 riff that he'd repeat in different keys. 1114 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:09,680 Uh and on this particular riff, although 1115 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,359 I'm only going to play it in one key to 1116 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:13,040 illustrate it, he would play it through 1117 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,640 several parts of the song in different 1118 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,680 keys. So the main riff for Siberian 1119 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,132 Catra, it goes like this. [music] 1120 00:47:29,282 --> 00:47:29,839 [music] 1121 00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:32,319 So as you can see, it's a a constant 1122 00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:34,079 riff, a circular riff that's that's 1123 00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:35,520 moving round and round and round. You 1124 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,040 can keep playing that. Then he can move 1125 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,480 it to a different key as the song 1126 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,880 progresses, as the tune progresses. Very 1127 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,200 typical Steve how her riff. But what 1128 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,400 they're doing each time with this riff, 1129 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,000 they're trying to build it up. And uh 1130 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,680 Bruofford um he he's he's, you know, 1131 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,200 kind of adding semiquavers with his 1132 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,920 symbols and his high hats and kind of 1133 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,920 some some double pedals going on with 1134 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,839 his bass drums. And he's he's really 1135 00:47:57,839 --> 00:47:59,680 kind of giving it this building driving 1136 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,119 effect, [music] putting it into a fifth 1137 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:05,079 gear, if you like each time. 1138 00:48:11,203 --> 00:48:13,223 >> [music] 1139 00:48:19,718 --> 00:48:21,738 [music] 1140 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,000 >> Lyrically, I don't know where it's 1141 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,839 going. I wouldn't pretend to know where 1142 00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:35,920 it's going lyrically. But musically, 1143 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,839 again, it's unique. It's different. The 1144 00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:41,988 rhythms are are very stylish. 1145 00:48:41,988 --> 00:48:44,008 [music] 1146 00:48:47,883 --> 00:48:49,903 [music] 1147 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,319 >> It really is John Anderson [music] going 1148 00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:57,680 into his Eastern Religion interest, but 1149 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,800 it works because it's the band locking 1150 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,559 together. [music] The band seemed very 1151 00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:05,200 much in phase with John Anderson on this 1152 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,040 track. Whereas on Close to the Age, they 1153 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,800 lost away a little bit at points. With 1154 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,774 Siberian Catcher, that never happened. 1155 00:49:12,774 --> 00:49:14,794 [music] 1156 00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:23,680 The piece unravels [music] a series of 1157 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,559 moves without ever really getting into 1158 00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:30,160 your face, but somehow you're more 1159 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,599 impressed with their instrumental and 1160 00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:36,800 musical creativity than many of the 1161 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,760 better known more egoladen pieces. 1162 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,160 >> Some people have little time for 1163 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,920 Siberian Katru because they don't feel 1164 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,559 it has any great meaning to impart. But 1165 00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:48,400 if you ask Steve how or certainly when I 1166 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,880 asked Steve how he reckoned that the 1167 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,440 power of this piece and the melodic 1168 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,119 grace of and you and I were the two 1169 00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:57,280 sides of the coin of what made yes what 1170 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,644 they were seeing [music] 1171 00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:09,759 the flowers 1172 00:50:09,759 --> 00:50:11,779 [music] 1173 00:50:14,999 --> 00:50:16,880 [music] as 1174 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,880 create 1175 00:50:20,894 --> 00:50:22,914 [music] 1176 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,599 >> you and I starts with lots of nice 1177 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,680 acoustics and so you'd get that sort of 1178 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,200 warm acousticy sort of close feel to it. 1179 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,559 Good arrangement. It [music] was a long 1180 00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,720 tune but well arranged. It would come 1181 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,040 back to the same sort of melodies with 1182 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,319 different chords underneath them, 1183 00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:39,890 different rhythms underneath them. 1184 00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:41,040 [music] And that's one of the things 1185 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,640 about you and I I think that's really 1186 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,640 important is you know I don't know if 1187 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,160 John wrote all the melodies for the 1188 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,640 vocals but it was a very strong [music] 1189 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,079 melodic vocal part 1190 00:50:55,610 --> 00:50:57,630 [music] 1191 00:51:01,505 --> 00:51:03,525 [music] 1192 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:06,745 with 1193 00:51:06,745 --> 00:51:08,765 >> [music] 1194 00:51:13,295 --> 00:51:15,315 [music] 1195 00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:19,280 >> You and I works particularly well. I 1196 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,559 think primarily because of John 1197 00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,720 Anderson's vocals. The lyrics [music] 1198 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,920 were good. The lyrics were clever. Um, 1199 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,400 and it's probably the only 10 to 12 1200 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,960 minute love song I've ever heard. Um, 1201 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,240 and [music] admitted to reading the 1202 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:33,119 hiking 1203 00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:35,280 >> on this track. It's it's it's Anderson 1204 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,040 that's really shines. Um and he has a 1205 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,839 tendency to maybe [music] um over sing 1206 00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:44,240 on a lot of Yes. songs. Um but on this 1207 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:46,480 he's actually he holds back and it 1208 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,240 really benefits. So there's a sort of 1209 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,760 immediate there's sort of some drama and 1210 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,680 tension there and when he does sort of 1211 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,000 give it some eventually it's all the the 1212 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,920 release comes and the tension is broken. 1213 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,200 It's fantastic. [music] 1214 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,440 And you and I is regarded as the 1215 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,800 masterpiece [music] on Close to the 1216 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,000 Edge. And it works because it has a very 1217 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,640 simple basic melody. Everything leads 1218 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,880 back eventually to the And you and I 1219 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,359 refrain, which is very simple, very 1220 00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:17,520 softly sung by John Anderson and allows 1221 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,559 people to join in. 1222 00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:20,400 >> Certainly one of the most heavenly 1223 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,400 moments [music] in the entire Yes. 1224 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,400 repertoire. 1225 00:52:26,001 --> 00:52:28,021 >> [music] 1226 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,839 >> By this point, I think the band was so 1227 00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:36,240 welloiled and um you know the sort of 1228 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,520 basic groove between sort of Bruford How 1229 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,359 and Squires 1230 00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:44,319 and Weightman were so they kind of knew 1231 00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:45,920 what the others other guys were going to 1232 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,760 be doing so they could sort of almost 1233 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,280 read each other's musical minds. Now 1234 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,880 with Bill Bruofford, having him and 1235 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,440 Chris Squire as a rhythm section was 1236 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,440 almost a dream, but you can't have too 1237 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,200 much of a good thing because of the type 1238 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,160 of drummer he was and is, it never 1239 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,000 really gelled properly with Yes. Yes. 1240 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,920 didn't want someone of his virtuosity. 1241 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,680 They wanted someone a little more solid 1242 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,520 and a little more grounded because they 1243 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,079 wanted the other instruments to be the 1244 00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:13,440 orchestral performers while the drums 1245 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,480 were solid, rooted, and always gave the 1246 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,000 other instruments something to come back 1247 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,400 to. And it's not really a surprise that 1248 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,800 when Brewer did finally quit, yes, it 1249 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,800 was to join King Crimson. For certain 1250 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,280 that Alan White, who replaced him, 1251 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,599 hasn't got that kind of individuality. 1252 00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:31,680 But then again, unless you're Cream, 1253 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,000 which had Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce, and 1254 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,440 Ginger Baker, yet another of those 1255 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,079 signature drummers, all soloing at once, 1256 00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:39,280 you've got to have something that's a 1257 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,359 bedrock. And what Alan White provided 1258 00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:46,040 was more a rhythmical bedrock. 1259 00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:52,720 Yes. recorded tales from topographic 1260 00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:56,720 oceans in the summer of 1973 1261 00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:58,079 um when [music] they were on a high 1262 00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:03,079 after fragile and close to the edge. 1263 00:54:12,112 --> 00:54:14,079 >> [music] 1264 00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:14,240 >> It's 1265 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,400 >> fair to say that Tales from Topographic 1266 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,680 Oceans is the most controversial album 1267 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,880 that Yes. ever made. Um, [music] opinion 1268 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,280 was divided not just among progressive 1269 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,319 rock fans, but even among Yes. 1270 00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:30,800 >> I can remember both myself being 1271 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,400 disappointed and all of my 1272 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,200 contemporaries who were big Yes fans uh 1273 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,960 getting the album. I had to deliver 1274 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,040 newspapers to be able to afford it. So, 1275 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,160 I was I was very bitter at the number of 1276 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,240 Sunday posts I had to deliver to be able 1277 00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:47,599 to buy that album. And to find that it 1278 00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:50,079 kind of meandered. It didn't have a a 1279 00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,800 central quality. It was hard to to pick 1280 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,200 out the the melodic highlights or the 1281 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,359 rhythmic highlights. It was a bit of a 1282 00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:57,760 mush. 1283 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,720 >> Topographic Ocean was like for me was 1284 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:04,240 the album of Yes. I just love it. It was 1285 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:08,240 long. It was double album and the hard 1286 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,000 work was beautiful. The music was 1287 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,359 beautiful and it was was I was expecting 1288 00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:15,920 music to become. I don't understand why 1289 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,680 it was received so badly with with the 1290 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,920 critic because to me was it it was a 1291 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:20,720 masterpiece. 1292 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:22,880 >> Why was Tales of Topographic Ocean so 1293 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,280 badly received? Because it's a crap 1294 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,280 album. 1295 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,520 This is a movie. 1296 00:55:42,503 --> 00:55:44,523 [music] 1297 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,200 >> I think it it works because it's 1298 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,720 completely overblown and completely 1299 00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:55,040 nonsensical and utterly ludicrous. Here 1300 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,440 you have a double album and you've got 1301 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,280 four tracks in that double album. Each 1302 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,000 side takes has one track and that is it. 1303 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,040 It was ludicrous. It was such a bold 1304 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,040 brave experiment. The band have to be 1305 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,960 applauded. Perhaps some production 1306 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,160 editing would have been advisable. Um 1307 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,040 maybe uh it was everybody was 1308 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,799 experimenting once again and seeing how 1309 00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:17,760 far they could [music] push the 1310 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,640 envelope, but it wasn't very well 1311 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,160 received because I think people felt 1312 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,113 they'd become a bit self-indulgent. 1313 00:56:23,113 --> 00:56:24,480 [music] 1314 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,839 tuneless durge that goes on over four 1315 00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:31,040 sides of vinyl. And what on earth are 1316 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,599 they talking about? 1317 00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,280 The power [music] 1318 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,119 creativity [singing] 1319 00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:40,520 of life. 1320 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,079 >> John has gone through various periods in 1321 00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,400 his lyric writing. in the late 60s and 1322 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,799 early 70s uh he was into eastern [music] 1323 00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:56,240 mysticism and that is clearly evident in 1324 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,119 what he was writing. Some of it works. 1325 00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:00,880 Uh some of it doesn't work. Some of it 1326 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,200 didn't make any sense at all. Some of it 1327 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,880 was abstract. Some of it was poetic. Uh 1328 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,200 some of it just sang well. He often used 1329 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,400 his vocals as an instrument not just to 1330 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,160 say the words. I think if you look at it 1331 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,440 in that context then he was brilliant. 1332 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,599 But like any lyricist, he's gonna have 1333 00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:23,429 some things which are rubbish. [music] 1334 00:57:27,959 --> 00:57:28,799 [music] 1335 00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:31,440 >> Each track has a sense sometimes is 1336 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,960 losing its way. In fact, sometimes they 1337 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,040 start off and you wonder, do the band 1338 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,559 actually know what they're trying to do? 1339 00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:38,559 They sound like extended jam sessions 1340 00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:39,920 with the five [music] guys looking at 1341 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,000 each other saying, "Uh, where are we 1342 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:42,720 going with this?" 1343 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,720 >> Legend has it that cardboard [music] 1344 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,799 cows were standing in the studio. an 1345 00:57:46,799 --> 00:57:49,440 idea of John Anderson's to give a nice 1346 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,559 pastoral ambiencece to things didn't 1347 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:54,079 seem to [music] work, did it? 1348 00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,079 >> Things did start to get a little spinal 1349 00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:59,520 tap around this time. Uh, at one point, 1350 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,020 John Anderson decided that he wanted 1351 00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:05,040 [music] to recreate the vocal sound that 1352 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,260 he got singing in his shower at home. 1353 00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:09,839 [music] And so, he got the engineers at 1354 00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:12,559 the studio to dismantle the shower from 1355 00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:15,119 his house and reconstruct it in the 1356 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,839 studio. 1357 00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:20,960 There were moments in each of the four 1358 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,599 tracks which work overall. Each track 1359 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:25,119 probably does fall down because there's 1360 00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:28,319 too much fat on it. It's an album that 1361 00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:30,799 makes you happy that punk turned up. 1362 00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:33,599 Rick Waitman, who left soon after the 1363 00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:37,200 album was made, uh described the [music] 1364 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,640 album as wing through a cesspool in 1365 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,995 order to get to a lily pad. [music] 1366 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,180 They gave it a go. I think most of us 1367 00:58:49,180 --> 00:58:50,640 [music] agree that it didn't really 1368 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,720 work. But then again, they produced 1369 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,119 three classic albums. The critics had 1370 00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:56,880 enjoyed those. It was probably time for 1371 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,350 somebody else to take the praise. 1372 00:58:58,350 --> 00:59:00,370 [music] 1373 00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:06,920 [music] 1374 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,240 >> Once Yes. had peaked um and gone through 1375 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,160 the hoopers. Finally, there was tales 1376 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,040 from topographic oceans. Um, it took 1377 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,440 them a while to come back and then the 1378 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,400 shifts in lineup really began to take 1379 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,480 their toll. You had Genesis on the one 1380 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,200 side who were perhaps a warm band and 1381 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,720 you had Emerson Lake and Palmer on the 1382 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,240 other side who were perhaps a little 1383 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,880 cold clinical Chile. Yes. Was somewhere 1384 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,760 in the middle. They didn't freak you out 1385 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,000 with their 1386 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,799 instrumental virtuosity. nor did they go 1387 00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:40,640 for the down home tales that Peter 1388 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,799 Gabriel spun. They were somewhere there 1389 00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:45,200 in the middle, a nice happy medium, but 1390 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,880 I don't think by being between the hot 1391 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,559 and the cold that they were lukewarm. I 1392 00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:52,559 think they had their own place there, 1393 00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:54,319 which thousands of people really tuned 1394 00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:55,991 into. 1395 00:59:55,991 --> 00:59:58,011 [music] 1396 01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:06,000 Good [music] people turn their head 1397 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,640 on my way. 1398 01:00:09,746 --> 01:00:14,240 [music] People turn their head 1399 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,799 on [music] my way. 1400 01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:21,319 People 1401 01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:25,880 on my way. 1402 01:00:29,396 --> 01:00:31,416 >> [music]97437

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