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The time [music] between Principality to
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the sea constant trials disregard
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space.
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Yes. Were there at the beginning of
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progressive rock? [music] They were
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there before progressive rock was really
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formed. Like all the great bands, they
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had ambition, they had vision, they had
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a musicality, they had a virtuosity.
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>> They just broke all the rules. They did
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anything they felt that they either
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wanted to do or could do.
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>> [music]
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>> Classic Yes are are one of the
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probably the finest British [music]
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bands of that ilk.
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>> They weren't kind of [music] just
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rockers that went on and turned up very
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loud and and played. It was very [music]
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sort of thought out, very cerebral
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They wanted to take rock music outside
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of the 3minut pop format and then they
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[music] wanted to take it beyond the
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sort of stuck in a hard rock format.
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>> [music]
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>> It was away from Beatles, away from the
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Rolling Stone was still so powerful at
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the time and it can be dreamy. So I'm
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sure a lot of teenager at the time say
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like oh wow you know it's like it's
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different [music]
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>> Yes. started out as John Anderson,
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formerly of a band called Gum, [music]
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and Chris Squab, formerly of a band
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called The Simp. They came together. It
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was their vision. It was their band.
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Early on, [music] they had been
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listening to a lot of sort of West Coast
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bands from, you know, from California.
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Um, lots of harmony singing, [music]
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Cosby's National Young, um, The Birds.
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In fact, they covered a bird's song on
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the first album. I think they liked that
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kind of all the harmony singing that was
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going on in those West Coast bands.
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take it
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and [music]
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[singing]
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>> the first album I think like any band
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you know they'd been gigging around
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they'd got a record contract they'd gone
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into the studio and they [music] were
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experimenting they were trying to find
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their feet
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[music and singing]
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>> it's got the harmonics that they would
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use vocal harmonics that that that the
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band would develop
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>> the association or even the beach boys.
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They were the kind of things John
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Anderson had been listening to in the
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60s and you can still hear that American
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tambra to the harmonies that they layer
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on top of the songs.
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>> So the first album is quite sweet. Um
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it's got a few sort of mini pop operas
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survivals [music] one track. Um, so it's
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actually very different to, you know,
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the what's regarded as the classic Yes.
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Sound. [music]
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>> One of the reasons that that many of the
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the the classic Prague rock band's first
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albums are a little musically offkilter
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to the the the rest of the their um
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their catalog simply because, you know,
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it's it's the first one and it's like,
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well, you know, we did have this kind of
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crazy idea, but can we execute it in the
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studio kind of thing. Although yes was
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still trying to find their ground, still
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trying to find a way forward. And
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progressive music as such was very much
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a young genre, the first album really
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did establish a style for Yes. And out
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of it came particularly Pete Banks, a
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guitarist of tremendous range,
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tremendous enthusiasm and particularly
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great vision. Peter Banks was playing
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guitar in the band at that time before
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Steve Hal. Um and he's very very
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different guitarist kind of guitarist
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[music] to Steve Hal.
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um his influence is more kind of maybe
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Hendrick's inspired. [music]
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A couple of the group songs, [music]
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Survival and Look Around did actually
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become standards in the Yes Live set for
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a while, but by and large the album
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really failed to fulfill their vision of
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what they wanted it to. They were
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perhaps being too ambitious given their
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inexperience in the studio and the
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result was probably more [music] pop
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than it was Prague.
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>> I think the first album announced yes as
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a band who were out of the ordinary.
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This was [music] not a group that you
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could categorize in the ordinary
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language of of rock or [music] pop
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music. They were distinctive and they
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were unique.
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>> [music]
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>> Yes, I mean had two sort of main
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reference points m sonically I guess. Um
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one was the quirky time changes often
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led by Chris Squire's bass playing. Um
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and the other of course is John
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Anderson's very distinct vocal sound.
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>> I think John Anderson's voice is is yes.
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You know, whether other band members
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accept that, don't accept it, fans do,
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or don't, if you really look at the
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music, without [music] John Anderson's
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voice, it wouldn't be yes. They would
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actually have to rename themselves
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something else.
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Sometimes when I listen to to yes music,
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if John's voice didn't come in and sing
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these sort of nice melodies and
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harmonies and stuff, I might get a
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little bored, you know, because
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musically the a lot of the changes are
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so rapid sometimes you need something to
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hang on to. And John's voice being so
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distinctive, you know, you could hear it
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off a car radio or something. Yeah,
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that's definitely Yes, there's John
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Anderson singing. He wasn't out of his
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depth when the band started um coming up
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with more and more kind of complex
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musical arrangements. Um he could
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incorporate the voice easily and
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perfectly into those complex
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arrangements and um really sort of
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delivered some great works.
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>> He's got perfect pitch. His delivery is
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is unique. His lyrics are certainly
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unique. Uh whatever you think of them,
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he is one of the the most individual and
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gifted frontmen in music ever.
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John Anderson has an alto voice in
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contrast to most [music] rock singers
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who sing with a kind of rounchy tenner
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voice. Um that meant that his falsetto
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gives his lyrics a sort of ethereal
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quality.
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>> The bass chair in Yes. from the
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beginning was always Chris. He played a
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Rick and Becker stereo bass which was a
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sort of quite a new instrument at the
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time. It's got a very hard trebly twangy
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sound, a very hard metallic sound. So
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almost didn't sound like a bass at some
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points. Um it could almost sound like a
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guitar. Um Chris would also use
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distortion pedals and all kinds of
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effects pedals when wonderful things to
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even further make the bass much more of
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a featured instrument. yesterday
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[music and singing]
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morning.
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>> He plays bass very often like a lead
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guitar player. He's just got this
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phenomenal [music]
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style. It's a very sort of very melodic
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bass playing style and very fluid. Um,
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you know, he doesn't um it doesn't so
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much attack his bass. It's almost kind
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of like [music] caress the sounds out of
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it. His musical knowledge was very good.
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So, he would choose different root notes
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perhaps than somebody who would just
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play the chords. The bass wasn't just
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sort of your average bass that would
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sort of sort of mark time. They were
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like flowing runs and lines that were
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like almost melodies within themselves.
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And again, that's like, I think, a real
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secret ingredient of Yes.
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>> I'm not convinced that just his bass
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playing would have made that much of a
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difference or an impact on how Yes
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worked, didn't work, etc., etc. But his
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character, his personality certainly
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has. Without Chris Squire, yes would
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have taken off and never really come
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back down to earth. So he's very much
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the earth mother as it were of the band
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which allows John Anderson in particular
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to go off on his sort of strange
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mystical journeys always knowing [music]
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that Chris Squire's back on Earth
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holding him by string and at any moment
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can pull him back and say [music] right
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let's get back to the basics.
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I wouldn't necessarily describe Tony K
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as a great uh keyboard player in the
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sense of a Rick Waitman or or Keith
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Emerson [music] or someone like that.
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He's not flamboyant. Uh but he does what
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he does very well and he's more
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interested in rhythm than than
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necessarily in melody. So it gave the
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group a very good foundation in the
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early days. When Tony Kay came to Yes.
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he had a strange background. He was with
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a group called the Federals, who were
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[music] basically your run-of-the-mill
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60s beat group. And that's why he
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concentrated on playing the organ. That
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was the instrument that he was most easy
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with. It limited Yes's sound to an
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extent, which is why in the end he was
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replaced by Rick Wakeakeman. But it also
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gave those early tracks a real drive, a
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real Hammond organ type push, which gave
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them a bit of a soulful
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edge, and that's something that they
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never quite recaptured.
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>> He anchors the sound. He's part of the
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fabric of the sound and for that reason
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he's often overlooked but he's a very
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accomplished very competent keyboard
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player and he's doing just what's
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demanded from the early songs and he he
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played a very large part in putting yes
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on the map. Teddy K was a pianist and an
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organist and that's where his forte lay
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and in those areas he was particularly
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inspiring and when he and Pete Banks the
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guitarist combined on the first two
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albums there was a tremendous sense of
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surge they really did lot together in a
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very exciting manner.
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>> Bill Bruford as a drummer is one one of
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the greats really. Certainly in this
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progressive field. He's very uh highly
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influenced with jazz. You know, he's
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always he's always loved jazz. He's
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always enjoyed playing. Um he's [music]
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a great great drummer. Um visually very
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exciting. He's very expressive. He's
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[music] very conversationalist with it
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with his playing. You know, he likes to
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interact with other instruments. Um he
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he has this buzz about his playing.
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>> It's very difficult to carve a unique
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signature as a drummer, more so than
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almost any other instrument. You've got
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a very limited pallet, a very limited
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range of sounds to make your your impact
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with. And for somebody like Bill
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Bruofford who can actually make their
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impact by the way they place the beat uh
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is a huge gift. what he played was
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played extremely well. Clever drumming,
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which is not for everyone's taste and
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certainly often not the best thing in a
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rock band, but then it's debatable to
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say whether yes, we're ever a rock band.
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>> It was good. It was very technically
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perfect, but it's to me like it just
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come out of a very good school. I mean,
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it was missing the the gut feeling in
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it. It was too perfect sometime. I mean
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many role too many technical thingy you
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know here and then
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>> if they'd had someone who was a little
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bit more of a sort of plotting drummer
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it wouldn't have had the amount of fire
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that the early records have. Um and I I
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would put a lot of that down to to
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Bill's playing.
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>> Bill Bruford was 18 when he joined Yes.
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Um in fact he described himself as being
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[music] um an 18-year-old virgin and Yes
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was his first girlfriend. [music]
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>> Yes. had done the first album just
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called Yes, on their own and they were
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trying to find a style and a range in a
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movement. For the second album, they'd
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already decided we want to go in a
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direction that is very orchestral in
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style and sound. They wanted to be the
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modern Stravinsky in some respects.
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>> They had a little bit more courage now.
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They made one record. the record [music]
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company hadn't dropped them, you know,
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and so their experiments were beginning
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to pay off. They were starting to get a
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fan base. People were coming to the
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shows. It was up and running.
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>> [music]
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>> I know you cross the earth with every
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step.
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>> No opportunity necessary, no experience
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needed with the Richie Haven song. I
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think he'd have been surprised to hear
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it start with a
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hefty organ burst followed by some
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[music] wild swirling strings and then
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Chris Squire's zooming baseline.
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>> [music]
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>> So the life you lead you won't believe
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the roy
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they were looking at lush harmonies.
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They were looking at almost vagerian
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instrumentation
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rising falling crescendos
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diminuendos a mixture of classical and
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pop music. It's the way they they they
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meld
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a Richie Haven song with I think it's um
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the theme music to um the big country
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um the old film.
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>> I think that's an interesting thing.
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>> This one piece will make 52 layers.
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[music]
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>> Watch on mobile devices or the big
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screen. All for free. No [music]
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subscription required.
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It was uh unexpected. So I mean we were
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over overcrowded with you know pop
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music. It was very cheesy. I mean they
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came and they make a difference to many
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[music] people. You make them discover
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oh it could be that way too. The problem
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was [music] that they didn't quite bring
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it off and the orchestra ends up
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sounding as if they were trying to do
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something completely [music] different.
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country theme, it's so out of context,
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it makes you sit back and think, [music]
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"What the hell are they trying to do?"
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Later on on Time and the Word,
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particularly with a track called Astral
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Traveler, it did work a lot better. But
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by that time, they'd adapted and relaxed
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into using an orchestra.
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>> [music]
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>> Without question, time and a word was
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was a a big improvement on the first
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album. The band were now beginning to
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find their feet musically [music]
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and they were able to present a much
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more mature sound. We were definitely
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moving towards the classic Yes. sound.
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the songs were more puffed up um and
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they used uh classical orchestral
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musicians to get the more pompous sound
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that they were looking for. But it was
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done with a sort of naivity and
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innocence that really is the album's
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saving grace. I think they overstretched
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themselves with the second album. It had
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its moments. There's a very good cover
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called Everydays on on the record which
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uh they did quite well. There's also
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Astral Traveler and the Prophet which
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really started to hone down where yes,
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we're going to go in the future, but in
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reality it was a patchy record. [music]
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It was better technically. It was better
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recording. It was it was more well
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thought album. They they of the sound
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you know not just the beautiful music
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they of all the sound will will will get
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out of the speaker. The separation
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between the instrument the vocal was a
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lot more prominent in up front. It was
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more sensual. [music]
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>> John Anderson um had started to develop
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his science fiction lyrical style um
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which would become more cosmic as time
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went on.
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I didn't think it was as good as the
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debut album. Personally, it wasn't bad.
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I mean, some very interesting tracks on
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there, but as a as an album to listen to
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today, I still prefer the debut album.
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The other problem they had was that Pete
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Banks was doing things that they weren't
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quite happy with. Far more jazzy things,
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far more extra exploratory things that
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were exciting and probably the best
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performances on the second album, Kate
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from Pete Banks, but it was clear that
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he was going in a different direction to
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the band. So by the time the second
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album came out, not only was Pete Banks
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out of the band, he was off the cover of
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the album and his replacement Steve How
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was photographed there even though he
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had nothing to [music] do with the
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record.
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One of the main men in Yes's early years
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was Pete Banks, the original guitar
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player, but it was literally when he was
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replaced by Steve How that Yes kicked
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into gear.
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>> [music]
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[music]
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>> Steve [music] how the guitar player uh
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brought lots of things to Yes. Uh first
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and foremost a great technical ability
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as a guitar player but a very all round
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guitar player. [music] You can hear and
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he's playing and and all the yes stuff,
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country, bit of jazz, rock and roll, bit
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of funk, bit of Hendricks going on, a
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bit of classical [music] and
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experimental stuff as well. Not even
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jazz, just experimental sound,
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soundscape stuff. [music]
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He stretched their musicality to the
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very limit um by his inventiveness as a
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soloist also as a writer. I think he
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expanded the band as well. I think
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[music] once he started writing with
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John Anderson that really changed sort
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of shaping the sort of classic yes sound
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[music]
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on the yes album. It just bang there you
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go it's whoa where did this all come
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from kind of thing you know that album
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put them on the map.
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[music]
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when we put our music together, it's
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what I've got and what's [music] John's
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got and what the other guys have got,
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you know? I mean, somebody has done
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this, can [music] you write the best
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song in the world today, Steve? You
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know, I'd say, what are you doing? You
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know, I've got some stuff and some of it
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is pretty good. [music] You know what I
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mean? So, there's that confidence you've
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got to have about yourself. So, the way
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that you come to that fruition and when
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the things start to marry together in
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the arrangement [music] is when people
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are delivering the best things they've
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got.
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The Yes album is the first album really
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to show the full potential of the band.
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There are no more covers on this album.
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Instead there are six quite long complex
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songs of their own [snorts]
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um which have complicated arrangements
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um a series of different moods all
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contrived but all working towards
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[music] a single aim. The day of morning
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gave a smile upon your face.
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[music]
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Jesus
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morning glory city
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[music]
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gent.
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[music]
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Yours is no [music] disgrace.
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Yours is no disgrace was the real start
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of Yes. It had multi-layered harmonies,
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had different aspects to the music that
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were very confident. It had moods in a
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way. It had movements as well as moods.
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And it was a lengthy piece that allowed
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Yes. to stretch out.
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[music]
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Yours is No disgrace is a is a kind of
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miniature symphony if you deconstruct
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[music] it. It works at so many levels
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and and it's no surprise it's become a
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standard for the set over the last 30
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years.
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It was simple, but it was also very very
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clever. And it it's a shame in some ways
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[music] that bands don't try and record
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tracks of that sort of minor epic
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length. I think it was what 10 11
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minutes. It worked so well. It had a
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flow to it. It had um a bounce had
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element of [music] rock, a lot of
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progressive rock. Um but it had a lot of
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melody in it as well.
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[music]
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>> It starts very sort of small and um then
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within sort of a minute has got
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absolutely huge. There's sort of two or
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three sort of monster riffs going on
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where the [music] guitar and the bass
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both sort of play the riff together. And
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um it's exquisite. It's very very
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exciting. And um again Anson's voice
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which is probably the highest he's ever
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sung I think. Um it's almost
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unbelievably high. Um that brings great
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tension and drama to the music.
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>> [music]
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>> summer
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[music]
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music
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not this great asking again [music]
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technology have to do with it because
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each time they came with a new album
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technology was different it was getting
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better plus they also knew [music]
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their sound they knew more who they were
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or to work together and that could be
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could be heard in the music because
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[music] he was getting more
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sophisticated it more better arrange.
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>> Finally, yes found their range and their
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mark. See all good people [music] turn
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their heads to stay soisfied
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on my way.
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See all [music] good people turn their
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heads so
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[music]
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>> in a song like you move all good people.
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It's it's a classic example of [music]
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Yes's willingness to change mood, to
555
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change tempo, to shift the song to take
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us into to different areas. Uh, and it's
557
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a very subtle approach that the band
558
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has. The harmonies [music] on your move
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00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,520
are woven tightly together into various
560
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patterns and into also different layers.
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And the effect is really to produce a
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sort of shimmering vocal landscape.
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>> [music]
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>> No
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[music]
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[singing] time to start time with your
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time
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is captured. [music]
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[music]
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>> The basic ingredients of this track is a
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three chord trick which is [music]
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E major and then A over an E root.
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That's an A major. Then a B major over
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an E root. [music] And back to an A
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major over an E root. That's the first
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section.
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[music]
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And on this one as well, which is really
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nice, is uh the bass [music] player um
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harmonizes the chords to create much
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[music] more of a sort of Bach like
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sequence.
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Then the second section gets a little
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more clever. The second section goes to
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E. [music] Then it goes to an A with a
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first inversion on the bass. Then it
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goes to an E over a B [music]
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to an A major. Then to an E with a
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[music] G sharp root, then to an F sharp
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minor, then an E with [music] a G sharp
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root, back to an A major.
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As I said, very Bach like
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[music]
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[music]
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very typical of Yes. Uh [music] somebody
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would hold a chord sequence and the
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keyboard player or the bass player would
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actually move around musically
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underneath. So one person would [music]
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would play the main structure and other
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people would add and harmonize and
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remove and you know create different
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sort of feels by doing that. This is the
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great um a great example of really of
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how skillful yes are. People always
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assume that there are lots of different
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changes of key and time signature and
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all that kind of thing. Not [music]
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necessarily the case. you get the
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impression that the keys have changed
611
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and because of the the different tempos
612
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of the song you find almost as if it's a
613
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different uh time signature but it's
614
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just really how Bill Bruofford again
615
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very skillfully places his accents in
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different places and gives you that
617
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sense of a shift but a lot of yes's
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music is actually like that [music]
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[music]
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>> this was music that they'd been seeing
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and hearing if not always being able to
622
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capture in the studio. Now all [music]
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of a sudden they were doing it.
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>> They'd learned I think from time of the
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word they put a lot of sort of
626
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,240
orchestral strings on and that didn't
627
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particularly work. It sort of was sort
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of really kind of ultra pompous and
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there is a pompous side to yes but in a
630
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nice way. I think they learned well that
631
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they were using string parts but not an
632
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actual live orchestra. Um they were
633
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using like keyboard strings. The problem
634
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was yes wanted a keyboard player who was
635
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,559
also accomplished on synthesizer. That
636
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:49,840
was not Tony K's forte. So sadly
637
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,440
although he was very much prevalent on
638
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440
the first three albums his time was very
639
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,320
much up with Yes when they moved into a
640
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,200
more classical oriented style. The irony
641
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,960
being Tony Kay came from a classical
642
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,400
background but it was the wrong
643
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,720
classical background. His grounding as a
644
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,080
pianist meant he was part of an
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00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,240
orchestra. Yes. Wanted him to be the
646
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orchestra.
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>> Mr. Rick Weightman.
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[music]
649
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>> Rick Waitman brought um a huge increase
650
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in the [music] range of sounds available
651
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,799
to Yes. Whereas Tony Kay had really only
652
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,559
used three keyboards, [music]
653
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,640
um, Rick Waitman had a dozen racked
654
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,640
around him and they weren't just for
655
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,400
show either. He played them all. [music]
656
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,039
This really sort of heady brew of sort
657
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:39,200
of technospace rock that yes, [music]
658
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,919
we're kind of developing at the time.
659
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:43,360
Wakeman probably just thought, "Oh,
660
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:44,320
great. This [music] is something to get
661
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,200
my teeth into."
662
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,640
Rick Wakeakeman played with the group
663
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,799
called the Strobs who'd supported Yes.
664
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,120
quite regularly so they knew exactly
665
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,120
what he was capable of. He was somebody
666
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,960
who could play piano. If you remember
667
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,880
Cat Stevens Morning has broken. That was
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00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,159
Rick on the keyboards. He also played on
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00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:08,399
Bow's Hunky Dory. He [music] could play
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00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:10,399
organ. He also played the meatron which
671
00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:12,559
was a huge instrument with tape loops a
672
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,279
kind of primitive sampler. He basically
673
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:16,720
was game to play anything and
674
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,089
everything.
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00:28:19,089 --> 00:28:20,159
[music]
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00:28:20,159 --> 00:28:23,279
>> Quickman was the keyboard man. He was he
677
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,600
was out of it. He were like a a man
678
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,760
living this dream on stage no matter
679
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,399
what. He just didn't care. He was coming
680
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,399
in the band and say here we go. I can do
681
00:28:32,399 --> 00:28:34,000
that. I'm going to give you that and
682
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,399
voila.
683
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:37,600
>> He probably turned Yes. to a fairly
684
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600
complex band anyway into even more
685
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,600
complex arrangements and sort of longer
686
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,440
more epic kind of pieces.
687
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,840
>> In the studio was where he really gave
688
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yes the edge because he could link
689
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,760
themes and he could nip things together.
690
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,960
He could come up with 20 chord sequences
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00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,279
to use for a particular song. He was
692
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,279
basically sketching out a root map for
693
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:58,960
the others to follow.
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Fragile is the [music] first album from
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what's regarded as the classic yes
696
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,560
lineup of John Anderson, Chris Squire,
697
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,600
[music] Steve How, Rick Weightman, and
698
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,720
Bill Bruofford.
699
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>> And we were very honest about the state
700
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of the band even though we didn't
701
00:29:14,765 --> 00:29:17,760
[music] say the band is fragile. We just
702
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,559
called the album fragile. But that was
703
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:21,200
about [music]
704
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,279
okay. So Bill did see it on the flight
705
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,279
case and kind of go why don't we call it
706
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:28,279
fragile?
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00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:37,090
>> [music]
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00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,240
>> I'll be around about
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00:29:48,825 --> 00:29:50,845
[music]
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00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,360
I think Roundabout as a song brought
711
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,200
together everything that Yes had been
712
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,200
trying to do for years. [music] There's
713
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,679
fantastic instrumentation in there,
714
00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:03,200
wonderful vocals, um, very clever, tight
715
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,080
arrangement, and huge amounts of energy.
716
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,000
We bring all of the elements of, yes,
717
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,520
all of the skills in terms of
718
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,840
composition and playing, and we boil it
719
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,480
down to this 9 10 minute song, which
720
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,559
contains all of the great musical
721
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:19,200
hallmarks of this band. The rhythms are
722
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,360
big and [music] bouncy and the vocals
723
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,480
are fluid and melodic and it's Whitman's
724
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,640
keyboards [music] that act as a bridge
725
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,200
between the two.
726
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,320
>> What happens is uh when the band comes
727
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,080
comes in, you get this [music] really
728
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,159
kind of great classic rock and roll rift
729
00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:37,840
coming in. Uh you got the acoustic
730
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,799
guitar [music] which gives it a real
731
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,799
lift, a real lively kind of driving vibe
732
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:42,880
to it. Um and the bass and drums are
733
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,521
just straight ahead. [music]
734
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,880
I'll be there. [music]
735
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,240
>> It's got all sorts of different elements
736
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,760
in it. It's got a bit of rock and roll.
737
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,880
It's got a sort of melodic vocal thing.
738
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,120
Uh it's got a bit of funk going on in
739
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,151
there. A typical track uh of Yes.
740
00:31:04,151 --> 00:31:04,799
[music]
741
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,080
About 3 and a half minutes into the
742
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,000
song, you get a new new motive coming
743
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,399
through. you get this repetitive unison
744
00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:12,080
riff uh played on the bass and the
745
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,880
guitars um structured in a four bar
746
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,039
phrase. But what what's happened is that
747
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,559
they've given it a new color by adding
748
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,880
lots of percussion. You've got shakers,
749
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,600
cowbells, tambourines.
750
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,640
>> Musically, I mean, it does what it says.
751
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,200
It kind of it it goes around and around.
752
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,039
It's it's got that kind of rhythm to it.
753
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:36,960
It's it's very satisfying song to listen
754
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,211
to.
755
00:31:38,211 --> 00:31:40,231
>> [music]
756
00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:46,740
>> Fragile is probably the first great Yes.
757
00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:48,399
[music] album. There's a sense of
758
00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:50,799
inspiration. Everything about that album
759
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:52,960
gelled and fitted. Roundabout song
760
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,399
there. Heart of the sunrise. Longd
761
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:56,320
distance runaround. All they're all
762
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,399
there. All these fantastic songs.
763
00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:00,159
>> Longdistance Runaround is a song that's
764
00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:01,679
it's only about three and a half, four
765
00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:04,480
minutes in length, but it's it's very
766
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880
very very well created. It's um they've
767
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,960
got some quite quite complex things
768
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,039
happening in this song which which work
769
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:13,039
very well. It initially comes in with
770
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:14,960
this guitar riff and this is a little
771
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,799
melody that's played in harmony between
772
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:19,760
the guitar and the keyboard. Uh and
773
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,320
basically what it is is it starts off
774
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,440
with an a [music] C arpeggio
775
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,000
harmonized and then it goes to a [music]
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00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,880
B flat major 7th chord and then it runs
777
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,559
up arpeggios of G back up to the C
778
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:36,880
again. So there's basically three chords
779
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,360
on this tune, which is your C, your B
780
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,640
flat major 7th, and your G.
781
00:32:51,572 --> 00:32:53,592
[music]
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00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:00,797
>> [music]
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[music]
784
00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:10,240
>> It makes it special first of all because
785
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,240
of the harmonies between the guitar and
786
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,840
the keyboard playing it. And there's a
787
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,200
little bit of jazz in there as well.
788
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Django Reinhardt
789
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,919
with a bit of swing to it. Sort of gypsy
790
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:22,480
swing to it. Um, and also the use of the
791
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,720
arpeggios running up both instruments
792
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,200
playing them together.
793
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,360
It's quite [music] unusual certainly for
794
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,320
the time. Uh it was called progressive
795
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,919
rot and it that was musically very
796
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:40,360
progressive for that period of time.
797
00:33:47,903 --> 00:33:50,000
[music] And then when Bruford comes in
798
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,480
he gives this show tempo fast two
799
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,279
effect. He does this by, you know, um a
800
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,919
constant uh four on the on the bass drum
801
00:33:57,919 --> 00:33:59,519
and he's giving all the offbeats on the
802
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:00,880
ride symbol. So that [music] that
803
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,559
immediately gives it that kind of show
804
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:05,120
tempo type almost comic element [music]
805
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,399
to this to the beginning of this song.
806
00:34:12,138 --> 00:34:14,079
[music]
807
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:19,359
Long distance run around.
808
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:21,359
Long time [music]
809
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:24,560
waiting to feel.
810
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,720
>> Long distance runaround again has all of
811
00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:29,839
the quirky musical hallmarks of yes C
812
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major. Very straightforward key. [music]
813
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:33,839
Four beats in the bar but in the hands
814
00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:35,280
of Bill Bruofford. It sounds like
815
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,993
something totally distinctive.
816
00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:41,013
[music]
817
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,599
in the sunshine.
818
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,520
>> The only time we change key is when the
819
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,839
verse is introduced and we introduce the
820
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:54,079
two sharps as John Anderson begins to
821
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,399
sing. But uh that's all there is. But
822
00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:58,160
when you hear the song, it sounds as if
823
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,760
we've we've been playing around with
824
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,000
keys and time signatures. But nothing
825
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,359
could really be further from the truth.
826
00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:04,800
There's only one change in the whole
827
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,839
song. the the the age-old gag thrown at
828
00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:10,960
Prague rock bands is um you know that
829
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,240
everything lasted four days and you know
830
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,240
yes we're a perfect example of a band
831
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,079
who could stretch out when they felt the
832
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:21,200
need. Perhaps there is an argument later
833
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,079
down the line that they stretched out
834
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:25,839
for the hell of it when they didn't need
835
00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:28,880
to. But they could also [music] write a
836
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,720
complete piece of music that lasted 3
837
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,480
minutes. There's a sense on the
838
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,560
production where Anderson really is just
839
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,560
sold, [music] go in there, do what you
840
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,920
have to do, we'll build everything
841
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,280
around you. And this is one of the
842
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,680
tracks that really underlines what John
843
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,440
Anderson was about because yes, we're
844
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,880
learning to adapt their style to
845
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,459
Anderson. He became the lynchpin of the
846
00:35:46,459 --> 00:35:47,760
[music] band, the most important member
847
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,680
of the band. And the rest were starting
848
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,760
to learn that and starting to fit in
849
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,119
with it. And there was no sense of
850
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,280
egotism. There was no sense of why
851
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,640
should he be the main person in the
852
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,920
band. They [music] knew how important
853
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,839
John Anderson was and they were adapting
854
00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:01,359
to him.
855
00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:04,800
I [music] still remember the dream
856
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,560
there.
857
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,680
I still remember [music]
858
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,320
you said goodbye.
859
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,079
>> Fragile is absolutely one of the best.
860
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,589
It was like it's a masterpiece is
861
00:36:16,589 --> 00:36:18,880
[music] you know it's well put together
862
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,079
is I don't know it's well arranged it's
863
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,480
very well produced a great recording for
864
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,320
the technology at that time and you can
865
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,640
see it's a heart in it. It's not just
866
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,400
beautiful music. They put a heart in it.
867
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,720
You put the love of music in it. And I'm
868
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:35,040
sure people, you know, notice that
869
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,040
>> Fragile probably doesn't have the
870
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,800
consistency or the flare of Close to the
871
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,800
Edge. Um, it was made up of individual
872
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480
compositions along with group
873
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,599
compositions and there are a couple of
874
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:53,119
tracks that um are below par frankly.
875
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,040
Um, but perhaps the most interesting
876
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,599
thing is that the band themselves, you
877
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:01,280
can tell, are not yet sure of how far
878
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920
they can stretch themselves. And you get
879
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,839
the feeling that there is still more to
880
00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:10,119
go, which [music] indeed there was.
881
00:37:14,885 --> 00:37:16,560
[music]
882
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,880
>> There was more to Yes. than just the the
883
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,280
musicians and the music, you know. There
884
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,680
was uh there was a lot of teamwork
885
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,760
behind the scenes that brought
886
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,480
originality.
887
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,800
>> In the era before we had videos, album
888
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,880
sleeves were the best way for a band to
889
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,760
get their image, their message across to
890
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,200
give you something that wasn't contained
891
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,680
in the grooves. And when Yes. linked in
892
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,920
with Roger [music] Dean, they obviously
893
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,520
brought a new dimension to what they
894
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,706
were trying to portray.
895
00:37:43,706 --> 00:37:45,726
[music]
896
00:37:51,566 --> 00:37:53,586
>> [music]
897
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,160
>> As you can see behind me here, the Roger
898
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,960
Dean's uh artwork played a huge part in
899
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,599
establishing the identity for a band
900
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,119
like Yes. his his landscapes are on one
901
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,960
hand abstract and otherworldly, but at
902
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,400
the same time there's a there's an air
903
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,800
of familiarity about them. And I think
904
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,079
that that's struck a chord very closely
905
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:19,359
with with the music.
906
00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:21,280
>> So, you know, miraculously, not only was
907
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,680
the music right, but the look of the
908
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,480
record was right, too. This this fragile
909
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,200
world that Roger uh had drawn for us,
910
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,640
you know, looked like it really looked
911
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,240
like something, you know, when combined
912
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,200
with our music and the emergence of the
913
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,200
beginnings of the logo started to come
914
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,680
out. So all of a sudden, yes, not only
915
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,839
had the music and the opening to to
916
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:44,079
chart in America, but also we had a look
917
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:45,839
>> cuz their first three albums, whatever
918
00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:47,520
you think musically, the sleeves are
919
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,680
rubbish. They really were awful. This
920
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,800
was the first time they [music] had a
921
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,320
sleeve that represented where they could
922
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,480
be going. Roger Dean was a visionary in
923
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,640
the way he presented his art and also
924
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,240
reflected the music. They were busy,
925
00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,359
they were interesting, they were
926
00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:00,720
fascinating, but they were never
927
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,640
cluttered and [music] they made you want
928
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,720
to look at the sleeve while hearing the
929
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:05,280
music.
930
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,119
>> It was a piece of art. It was so well
931
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,599
made, so well [music] draw and I'm sure
932
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:11,119
people put it in the world just for the
933
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:13,520
picture cuz he was beautiful and it's
934
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,280
why he stay with Yes for so many album
935
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,839
because it's like for a while if you
936
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:20,640
didn't see that that that that painting
937
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,960
on the on the on the [music] Yes album,
938
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,160
it wasn't on Yes. the the uh Yes album,
939
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,079
Fragile
940
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,359
um Close to the Edge kind of trilogy W
941
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:34,480
was establishing uh the styles and the
942
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,119
direction of Yes. and Roger was doing
943
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:38,160
that visually.
944
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,480
>> The inner sleeve of the Close to the
945
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Edge album with its endless waterfalls
946
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,839
constantly flowing um is almost an
947
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:49,760
essential [music] visual aid for
948
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,560
listening to the track.
949
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,072
Close [music]
950
00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:04,587
[music]
951
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,440
to the Edge is a is a is a real epic.
952
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,520
It's over 18 minutes in length and is
953
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,680
divided into five or six different
954
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,160
sections. Um, initially you get this
955
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,320
kind of just just sounds, guitar [music]
956
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,560
sounds and and very quiet opening and
957
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,200
then suddenly it it crashes into this
958
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,359
what at first sounds very frantic, very
959
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:29,760
kind of hectic, all fast playing.
960
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,760
Everyone's playing at once, but actually
961
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,119
on listening to it, it's [music] not
962
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:34,960
quite as complex as it seems. The bass
963
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,280
guitar and the bass drum are both um
964
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,800
just playing on beats one and three of
965
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,839
the bar um which gives it a very simple,
966
00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:44,800
grounded feeling. Um what Bill Bruford
967
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,760
is doing with his with his hands uh on
968
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,839
the symbols gives it the sense of
969
00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:51,359
urgency. He's doing a lot of double
970
00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:52,960
time, a lot of bouncing on the symbols
971
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,760
with his sticks.
972
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,920
>> There's a sense of discovery about the
973
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,800
track. Um as much for the band as for
974
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,599
the listener in terms of the shape and
975
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,119
the form that it took. This is complex
976
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:08,480
music being played with real gusto and
977
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,000
it stands the test of time
978
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,240
magnificently. Close to the edge was a
979
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,960
song that I began writing literally
980
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,599
about living next to the river tames you
981
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,400
know so but John converted that into a
982
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,920
song about the world if you like and
983
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,920
that's that I suppose that's an
984
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,000
indication of
985
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,400
artists working together is that you by
986
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,240
the time you've pulled a couple of ideas
987
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,599
you haven't got something that's twice
988
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,440
as good as the first idea you've got
989
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,480
something that's multiples
990
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000
season.
991
00:41:46,058 --> 00:41:48,078
[music]
992
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,560
>> The next section of the song is uh is
993
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,280
split up by um the bass and [music]
994
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,680
drums playing this 34 groove. Again, a
995
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,920
great use of 34. It's quirky,
996
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,640
imaginative, uh not often used by many
997
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,240
bands. Um, so they they have this
998
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,960
grounded 34 groove when over the top you
999
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,040
have this vocal melody which is actually
1000
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,760
in 68. Um, but [music] it's double time
1001
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,839
as well. So it gives it this really
1002
00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:17,760
great crossing over feeling between
1003
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,139
vocals and rhythm. [music]
1004
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,040
>> Just a great piece of music [music] to
1005
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,800
listen to. 20 odd minutes of a mixture
1006
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,440
of tranquility and chaos. There's lots
1007
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,800
of uh time signatures uh where the tempo
1008
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,119
changes and completely new tempo starts.
1009
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:41,079
Uh there's lots of key changes. Um
1010
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:42,400
[music] just bouncing around all over
1011
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,079
the place, but somehow they managed to
1012
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,880
make it a sort of a very sort of
1013
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,440
congenial hole and sound. It sounds
1014
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,560
actually very organic.
1015
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,480
>> 6 minutes into the song, you get this
1016
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,000
real twist with it because the bass and
1017
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,480
the drums are now playing in 44. Same
1018
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,560
tempo, but four beats in a bar. So
1019
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,480
they've got this two bar phrase where
1020
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,000
the bass and the drums are doing this
1021
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,480
kind of dark funky funky sounding riff
1022
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,000
which sounds great. [music] Then over
1023
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,680
the top you've got this same melody that
1024
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,209
was used before in 34 but the melody is
1025
00:43:11,209 --> 00:43:13,760
[music] in 68 and it keeps on going. So
1026
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,079
what you're getting is the effect is is
1027
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,319
overlapping phrases. The vocals are
1028
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:20,380
continuing while the bass and drums
1029
00:43:20,380 --> 00:43:22,319
[music] ends and starts a new phrase.
1030
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:24,160
Then the vocals will end halfway through
1031
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,640
a drum and bass phrase. Um eventually it
1032
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,079
meets at the end but it's very very
1033
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:31,570
clever writing. [music]
1034
00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,880
>> It wasn't gibberish. It was them trying
1035
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,920
to do different things. Um there was and
1036
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,280
a lot of soundscape what we'd call
1037
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,200
nowadays soundsscape was going on that
1038
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,160
didn't have that name in those days. Um
1039
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,079
I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece but I
1040
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:53,680
say it's a very interesting piece of
1041
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,599
music. Close to the edges is really is
1042
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:57,680
truly a masterpiece. Um it's probably my
1043
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,200
favorite yes song. It's um it's a real
1044
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,880
epic, you know, it's [music] just when
1045
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,720
you think it's maybe the end must be
1046
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:07,520
close or it starts to die down a little
1047
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,520
bit. It's way back and [music] it's a
1048
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,920
whole new section.
1049
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:29,200
>> [music]
1050
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,119
>> About 14 minutes into the song, we've
1051
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:32,480
we've just been left with this huge
1052
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,720
organ sound. Um, sounds like, you know,
1053
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,720
massive cathedral organ. And then it
1054
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:38,980
goes into this high energy um really
1055
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:41,359
[music] kind of 68 vibe that's going on.
1056
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:42,880
And what you've got is the drums.
1057
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,520
They're doing this high um kind of
1058
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,151
urgent sounding uh drumming by he's he's
1059
00:44:48,151 --> 00:44:49,359
[music] using the symbols and the high
1060
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:51,680
hats. Um but he's predominantly really
1061
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,839
centering it around the snare drum. He's
1062
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:56,160
he's uh doing very very quick kind of
1063
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,640
sex tup semiquavers on the snare drum.
1064
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Um giving this constant energy running
1065
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,839
throughout [music] the whole whole
1066
00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:05,400
section of this song.
1067
00:45:07,801 --> 00:45:09,821
[music]
1068
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,760
By the time they were recorded um this
1069
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,319
track, their studio [music]
1070
00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:22,240
technology and their studio knowledge
1071
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:24,480
was was vast. They really had um they
1072
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,400
knew what they [music] were doing. So um
1073
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,680
there's all kinds of wizardry that goes
1074
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on
1075
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,920
>> in some respects. Yes. Were allowing
1076
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,400
their own ambition to outstretch what
1077
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,720
could be achieved at the time. Their
1078
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:36,880
music on Close to the Edge was ahead of
1079
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,240
what could be done technically or
1080
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,160
technologically right back then in the
1081
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,000
early '7s, but it's still got its
1082
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,839
wonderful moments. The fact is though,
1083
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:45,760
you can't have something as huge as that
1084
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,319
that lasts as long as it does that works
1085
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:50,640
all the way through the edge. It's a
1086
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,160
good song, but I don't call it a
1087
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,359
masterpiece. It's missing something.
1088
00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:57,760
It's missing the gut feeling it was in
1089
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,319
the song. It's missing the sensuality of
1090
00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:02,640
it. And that again maybe due to the
1091
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,960
production he maybe went too creamy on
1092
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,406
it.
1093
00:46:07,406 --> 00:46:09,426
[music]
1094
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,680
>> When I asked Rick Wakeakeman which yes
1095
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,839
tracks encapsulated [music] what they
1096
00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,400
were about in the early period. He said
1097
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,319
two tracks. He said, "Awaken or close to
1098
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:23,200
the edge?" Because he felt both of them
1099
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,680
basically started [music] and finished
1100
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,440
when the inspiration struck and when it
1101
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,119
ended and in between times went off on
1102
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:30,720
as many tangents as it [music] wanted
1103
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:36,440
to, but without pushing things too far.
1104
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,720
All three pieces of music off of um
1105
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,040
Close to the Edge are all masterpieces.
1106
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,480
Close to the Edge and You and I,
1107
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,319
Siberian Carter. What I'm going to do
1108
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:50,880
now is illustrate uh a little bit of a
1109
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,560
track called Siberian Catru. And uh it's
1110
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,720
very typical of a Steve how lick a riff.
1111
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,920
Um and what he would do uh generally in
1112
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,160
in a lot of Yes. songs, he he'd have a
1113
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,119
riff that he'd repeat in different keys.
1114
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:09,680
Uh and on this particular riff, although
1115
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,359
I'm only going to play it in one key to
1116
00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:13,040
illustrate it, he would play it through
1117
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,640
several parts of the song in different
1118
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,680
keys. So the main riff for Siberian
1119
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,132
Catra, it goes like this. [music]
1120
00:47:29,282 --> 00:47:29,839
[music]
1121
00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:32,319
So as you can see, it's a a constant
1122
00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:34,079
riff, a circular riff that's that's
1123
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:35,520
moving round and round and round. You
1124
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,040
can keep playing that. Then he can move
1125
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,480
it to a different key as the song
1126
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,880
progresses, as the tune progresses. Very
1127
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,200
typical Steve how her riff. But what
1128
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,400
they're doing each time with this riff,
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00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,000
they're trying to build it up. And uh
1130
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,680
Bruofford um he he's he's, you know,
1131
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,200
kind of adding semiquavers with his
1132
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,920
symbols and his high hats and kind of
1133
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,920
some some double pedals going on with
1134
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,839
his bass drums. And he's he's really
1135
00:47:57,839 --> 00:47:59,680
kind of giving it this building driving
1136
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,119
effect, [music] putting it into a fifth
1137
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:05,079
gear, if you like each time.
1138
00:48:11,203 --> 00:48:13,223
>> [music]
1139
00:48:19,718 --> 00:48:21,738
[music]
1140
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,000
>> Lyrically, I don't know where it's
1141
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,839
going. I wouldn't pretend to know where
1142
00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:35,920
it's going lyrically. But musically,
1143
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,839
again, it's unique. It's different. The
1144
00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:41,988
rhythms are are very stylish.
1145
00:48:41,988 --> 00:48:44,008
[music]
1146
00:48:47,883 --> 00:48:49,903
[music]
1147
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,319
>> It really is John Anderson [music] going
1148
00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:57,680
into his Eastern Religion interest, but
1149
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,800
it works because it's the band locking
1150
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,559
together. [music] The band seemed very
1151
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:05,200
much in phase with John Anderson on this
1152
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,040
track. Whereas on Close to the Age, they
1153
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,800
lost away a little bit at points. With
1154
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,774
Siberian Catcher, that never happened.
1155
00:49:12,774 --> 00:49:14,794
[music]
1156
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:23,680
The piece unravels [music] a series of
1157
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,559
moves without ever really getting into
1158
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:30,160
your face, but somehow you're more
1159
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,599
impressed with their instrumental and
1160
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:36,800
musical creativity than many of the
1161
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,760
better known more egoladen pieces.
1162
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,160
>> Some people have little time for
1163
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,920
Siberian Katru because they don't feel
1164
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,559
it has any great meaning to impart. But
1165
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:48,400
if you ask Steve how or certainly when I
1166
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,880
asked Steve how he reckoned that the
1167
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,440
power of this piece and the melodic
1168
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,119
grace of and you and I were the two
1169
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:57,280
sides of the coin of what made yes what
1170
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,644
they were seeing [music]
1171
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:09,759
the flowers
1172
00:50:09,759 --> 00:50:11,779
[music]
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00:50:14,999 --> 00:50:16,880
[music] as
1174
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,880
create
1175
00:50:20,894 --> 00:50:22,914
[music]
1176
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,599
>> you and I starts with lots of nice
1177
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,680
acoustics and so you'd get that sort of
1178
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,200
warm acousticy sort of close feel to it.
1179
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,559
Good arrangement. It [music] was a long
1180
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,720
tune but well arranged. It would come
1181
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,040
back to the same sort of melodies with
1182
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,319
different chords underneath them,
1183
00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:39,890
different rhythms underneath them.
1184
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:41,040
[music] And that's one of the things
1185
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,640
about you and I I think that's really
1186
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,640
important is you know I don't know if
1187
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,160
John wrote all the melodies for the
1188
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,640
vocals but it was a very strong [music]
1189
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,079
melodic vocal part
1190
00:50:55,610 --> 00:50:57,630
[music]
1191
00:51:01,505 --> 00:51:03,525
[music]
1192
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:06,745
with
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00:51:06,745 --> 00:51:08,765
>> [music]
1194
00:51:13,295 --> 00:51:15,315
[music]
1195
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:19,280
>> You and I works particularly well. I
1196
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,559
think primarily because of John
1197
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,720
Anderson's vocals. The lyrics [music]
1198
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,920
were good. The lyrics were clever. Um,
1199
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,400
and it's probably the only 10 to 12
1200
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,960
minute love song I've ever heard. Um,
1201
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,240
and [music] admitted to reading the
1202
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:33,119
hiking
1203
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:35,280
>> on this track. It's it's it's Anderson
1204
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,040
that's really shines. Um and he has a
1205
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,839
tendency to maybe [music] um over sing
1206
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:44,240
on a lot of Yes. songs. Um but on this
1207
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:46,480
he's actually he holds back and it
1208
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,240
really benefits. So there's a sort of
1209
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,760
immediate there's sort of some drama and
1210
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,680
tension there and when he does sort of
1211
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,000
give it some eventually it's all the the
1212
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,920
release comes and the tension is broken.
1213
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,200
It's fantastic. [music]
1214
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,440
And you and I is regarded as the
1215
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,800
masterpiece [music] on Close to the
1216
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,000
Edge. And it works because it has a very
1217
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,640
simple basic melody. Everything leads
1218
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,880
back eventually to the And you and I
1219
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,359
refrain, which is very simple, very
1220
00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:17,520
softly sung by John Anderson and allows
1221
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,559
people to join in.
1222
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:20,400
>> Certainly one of the most heavenly
1223
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,400
moments [music] in the entire Yes.
1224
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,400
repertoire.
1225
00:52:26,001 --> 00:52:28,021
>> [music]
1226
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,839
>> By this point, I think the band was so
1227
00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:36,240
welloiled and um you know the sort of
1228
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,520
basic groove between sort of Bruford How
1229
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,359
and Squires
1230
00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:44,319
and Weightman were so they kind of knew
1231
00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:45,920
what the others other guys were going to
1232
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,760
be doing so they could sort of almost
1233
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,280
read each other's musical minds. Now
1234
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,880
with Bill Bruofford, having him and
1235
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,440
Chris Squire as a rhythm section was
1236
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,440
almost a dream, but you can't have too
1237
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,200
much of a good thing because of the type
1238
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,160
of drummer he was and is, it never
1239
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,000
really gelled properly with Yes. Yes.
1240
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,920
didn't want someone of his virtuosity.
1241
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,680
They wanted someone a little more solid
1242
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,520
and a little more grounded because they
1243
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,079
wanted the other instruments to be the
1244
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:13,440
orchestral performers while the drums
1245
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,480
were solid, rooted, and always gave the
1246
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,000
other instruments something to come back
1247
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,400
to. And it's not really a surprise that
1248
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,800
when Brewer did finally quit, yes, it
1249
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,800
was to join King Crimson. For certain
1250
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,280
that Alan White, who replaced him,
1251
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,599
hasn't got that kind of individuality.
1252
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:31,680
But then again, unless you're Cream,
1253
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,000
which had Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce, and
1254
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,440
Ginger Baker, yet another of those
1255
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,079
signature drummers, all soloing at once,
1256
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:39,280
you've got to have something that's a
1257
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,359
bedrock. And what Alan White provided
1258
00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:46,040
was more a rhythmical bedrock.
1259
00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:52,720
Yes. recorded tales from topographic
1260
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:56,720
oceans in the summer of 1973
1261
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:58,079
um when [music] they were on a high
1262
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:03,079
after fragile and close to the edge.
1263
00:54:12,112 --> 00:54:14,079
>> [music]
1264
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:14,240
>> It's
1265
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,400
>> fair to say that Tales from Topographic
1266
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Oceans is the most controversial album
1267
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,880
that Yes. ever made. Um, [music] opinion
1268
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,280
was divided not just among progressive
1269
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,319
rock fans, but even among Yes.
1270
00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:30,800
>> I can remember both myself being
1271
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,400
disappointed and all of my
1272
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,200
contemporaries who were big Yes fans uh
1273
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,960
getting the album. I had to deliver
1274
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,040
newspapers to be able to afford it. So,
1275
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,160
I was I was very bitter at the number of
1276
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,240
Sunday posts I had to deliver to be able
1277
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:47,599
to buy that album. And to find that it
1278
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:50,079
kind of meandered. It didn't have a a
1279
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,800
central quality. It was hard to to pick
1280
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,200
out the the melodic highlights or the
1281
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,359
rhythmic highlights. It was a bit of a
1282
00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:57,760
mush.
1283
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,720
>> Topographic Ocean was like for me was
1284
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:04,240
the album of Yes. I just love it. It was
1285
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:08,240
long. It was double album and the hard
1286
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,000
work was beautiful. The music was
1287
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,359
beautiful and it was was I was expecting
1288
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:15,920
music to become. I don't understand why
1289
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,680
it was received so badly with with the
1290
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,920
critic because to me was it it was a
1291
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:20,720
masterpiece.
1292
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:22,880
>> Why was Tales of Topographic Ocean so
1293
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,280
badly received? Because it's a crap
1294
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,280
album.
1295
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,520
This is a movie.
1296
00:55:42,503 --> 00:55:44,523
[music]
1297
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,200
>> I think it it works because it's
1298
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,720
completely overblown and completely
1299
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:55,040
nonsensical and utterly ludicrous. Here
1300
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,440
you have a double album and you've got
1301
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,280
four tracks in that double album. Each
1302
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,000
side takes has one track and that is it.
1303
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,040
It was ludicrous. It was such a bold
1304
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,040
brave experiment. The band have to be
1305
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,960
applauded. Perhaps some production
1306
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,160
editing would have been advisable. Um
1307
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,040
maybe uh it was everybody was
1308
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,799
experimenting once again and seeing how
1309
00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:17,760
far they could [music] push the
1310
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,640
envelope, but it wasn't very well
1311
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,160
received because I think people felt
1312
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,113
they'd become a bit self-indulgent.
1313
00:56:23,113 --> 00:56:24,480
[music]
1314
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,839
tuneless durge that goes on over four
1315
00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:31,040
sides of vinyl. And what on earth are
1316
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,599
they talking about?
1317
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,280
The power [music]
1318
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,119
creativity [singing]
1319
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:40,520
of life.
1320
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,079
>> John has gone through various periods in
1321
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,400
his lyric writing. in the late 60s and
1322
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,799
early 70s uh he was into eastern [music]
1323
00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:56,240
mysticism and that is clearly evident in
1324
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,119
what he was writing. Some of it works.
1325
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:00,880
Uh some of it doesn't work. Some of it
1326
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,200
didn't make any sense at all. Some of it
1327
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,880
was abstract. Some of it was poetic. Uh
1328
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,200
some of it just sang well. He often used
1329
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,400
his vocals as an instrument not just to
1330
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,160
say the words. I think if you look at it
1331
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,440
in that context then he was brilliant.
1332
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,599
But like any lyricist, he's gonna have
1333
00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:23,429
some things which are rubbish. [music]
1334
00:57:27,959 --> 00:57:28,799
[music]
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>> Each track has a sense sometimes is
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losing its way. In fact, sometimes they
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start off and you wonder, do the band
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actually know what they're trying to do?
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They sound like extended jam sessions
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with the five [music] guys looking at
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each other saying, "Uh, where are we
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going with this?"
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>> Legend has it that cardboard [music]
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cows were standing in the studio. an
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idea of John Anderson's to give a nice
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pastoral ambiencece to things didn't
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seem to [music] work, did it?
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>> Things did start to get a little spinal
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tap around this time. Uh, at one point,
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John Anderson decided that he wanted
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[music] to recreate the vocal sound that
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he got singing in his shower at home.
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[music] And so, he got the engineers at
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the studio to dismantle the shower from
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his house and reconstruct it in the
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studio.
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There were moments in each of the four
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tracks which work overall. Each track
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probably does fall down because there's
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too much fat on it. It's an album that
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makes you happy that punk turned up.
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Rick Waitman, who left soon after the
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album was made, uh described the [music]
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album as wing through a cesspool in
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order to get to a lily pad. [music]
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They gave it a go. I think most of us
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[music] agree that it didn't really
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work. But then again, they produced
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three classic albums. The critics had
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enjoyed those. It was probably time for
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somebody else to take the praise.
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[music]
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[music]
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>> Once Yes. had peaked um and gone through
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the hoopers. Finally, there was tales
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from topographic oceans. Um, it took
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them a while to come back and then the
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shifts in lineup really began to take
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their toll. You had Genesis on the one
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side who were perhaps a warm band and
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you had Emerson Lake and Palmer on the
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other side who were perhaps a little
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cold clinical Chile. Yes. Was somewhere
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in the middle. They didn't freak you out
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with their
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instrumental virtuosity. nor did they go
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for the down home tales that Peter
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Gabriel spun. They were somewhere there
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in the middle, a nice happy medium, but
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I don't think by being between the hot
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and the cold that they were lukewarm. I
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think they had their own place there,
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which thousands of people really tuned
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into.
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[music]
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Good [music] people turn their head
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on my way.
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[music] People turn their head
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on [music] my way.
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People
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on my way.
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