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(announcer speaking in foreign language)
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(upbeat music)
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- Believe me, you wouldn't
want to be an air hostess.
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I've never been pinched
so often in my life.
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I'm black and blue all over.
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Just a minute, I'll show you.
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- Oh, I'm half-convinced already.
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But why did you decide to
change your profession?
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- I'm not really certain.
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Of course, it's true that my old life
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was dreadfully exhausting,
but I always enjoyed myself.
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- Well, they say a change
is as good as a rest.
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Do you agree?
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- Yes, that's quite true.
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And I believe one should be prepared
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to face new experiences
whenever destiny offers them.
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- So this is just a passing fancy.
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- Everything's a passing fancy, you know.
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The important thing is for an experience
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to have a creative value.
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- Couldn't too much experience damage
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your creative capacity?
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- No, I think it gets deeper and wider.
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- Oh, that certainly
makes sense. (chuckles)
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- (chuckles) I hope you're thinking
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of the same kind of experience as I am.
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- But surely the range that
a nightclub has to offer
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is very limited, isn't it?
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- On the contrary, it's vast.
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You see, for example,
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when a striptease artiste
is undressing physically,
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she's making the
spectator undress morally.
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The situation is the opposite
of what everyone thinks.
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It's not the girl on the stage
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who's the degrading
spectacle, it's the audience.
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Wouldn't you agree?
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- That's a very interesting theory.
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Can you clarify it?
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- Do you really not understand?
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- Well, the audience pays for
their entertainment, after all.
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Don't you think they're entitled to it?
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- Not all of them, just some.
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You see, there's a violent,
sadistic element in many
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of the spectators that
a striptease artiste is
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perfectly entitled to punish
with her body...
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- Sort of law of the jungle,
right here in the city.
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Is that it?
- The two masochists said,
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"If you scratch my back,
I'll scratch yours."
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But I can give you a better
example from my travels.
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(Chinese-like music)
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Do you know Hong Kong?
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I've just come from there.
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It's a crazy city.
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The British still play it
being colonialists,
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and the Chinese communists
play it being capitalists.
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And women of all races
play even stranger games.
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And if they don't give you a big hand,
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they may well give you the clap.
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But not my friend Susie Atwell.
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Have you heard of her?
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She's famous in the Far East.
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She works in a ping pong club.
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- [Interviewer] They don't
seem very good players to me.
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- [Interviewee] Oh, they're not.
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They're just a pretext
to bring on Suzy's act.
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(upbeat music)
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(funky, upbeat music)
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You can see why this club is known
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as the ping pong paradise.
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- [Interviewer] You said it.
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But what will happen if they
decide to take up basketball?
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(both laugh)
(music continues)
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Times have changed.
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So have the audiences.
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I'll try to explain what's happened.
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A striptease isn't enough
for the audiences nowadays.
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They want something more violent.
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In order to make an impression today,
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the artiste has to take
advantage of the oldest trick
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in the book:
exploiting her sex.
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- Thank you.
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- And here's to it.
- You said it.
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- In Greek comedies,
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the actors used to wear
high boots and masks
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and long cloaks and
everything, but everything
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was exaggerated to
emphasize the sexual aspect.
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- Aren't you exaggerating right now?
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- And what about their tragedies?
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They're full of rape, incest,
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and every kind of adultery,
especially with animals.
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And after the Greeks, what next?
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More sex. The Bible is full of it.
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Have you ever read anything as sexy
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as the Song of Solomon, or
the story of Herod and Salome,
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or David and Jonathan,
or the Queen of Sheba?
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And don't forget the woman
taken into adultery. (chuckles)
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Every writer uses sex.
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Chaucer and Shakespeare
and all the great poets
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of the Restoration.
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Not to mention Byron, Shelley
and Keats.
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Today, people want it more direct,
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but the underlying motive is the same.
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(upbeat, percussive music)
(wind blowing)
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Even the religious
ceremonies of ancient peoples
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in all times have a sexual background.
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(upbeat music)
(wind whooshing)
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(funky music)
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Ancient rites have always been danced
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in what people would call
an outrageously sensual way.
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My friend Jean Wawal is
in Dallas, Texas, right now,
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performing an elaborate tribal
dance of the Cherokee Indians
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with a particularly interesting symbol:
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the wahkunsa,
traditional Cherokee boots.
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(upbeat music continues)
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The audience doesn't realize
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that the fur boots are meant to tease.
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They're the way the
artiste wields her power
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over the public.
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She strips down to her
booties but leaves them on,
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and the insatiable unconscious curiosity
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of the spectators focuses on her feet,
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the only thing they can't see.
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(exciting music)
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(audience clapping)
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What I want to say is that
there's always an element
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of ritual in every performance that is
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in any way connected with
the representations of sex.
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And this is because the
sex act itself follows
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a precise ritualistic pattern,
a ritual with its roots lost
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in the dawn of time,
yet always the same,
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although the forms vary as we all realize,
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if we think of our personal behavior.
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Let me give you a common example.
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(upbeat music)
(wind whooshing)
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A huge seaside city, famous for
the variety of fun and games
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it can provide, among which
are these floating love-nests,
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conceived, constructed, marketed,
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and manned for no other purpose.
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And here, not even the act of
seduction can escape the sense
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of a final ritual, which
is almost identical
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with the one followed by our
ancient forebears, the apes.
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(upbeat music)
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The female finds some
subtle way to indicate
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her availability, thus
drawing the attention
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of the male, whose mind may
temporarily be on other things.
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The male begins to carry
out the preliminary rites:
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the delousing, in the
case of monkeys, that is.
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We have more refined techniques,
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even if they're all the same
in the end.
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And we soon reach the final stage,
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the same for mice or monkeys or men.
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(upbeat music)
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Now, let's get back to show
business and its sensual
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implications, which are
always a constant part of it,
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which is only logical, if
we think of it as a fantasy
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representation of reality with
sex as a necessary component.
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(upbeat music)
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The so-called classical
specialty of the Middle East,
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of, say, Damascus or Istanbul
or Cairo,
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is the famous belly dance.
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(exciting music)
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Why they call it the belly
dance, I can't imagine.
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The belly is only part of it.
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The dancer writhes and wiggles
and shakes and twists,
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and attention focuses less on
her belly than on her boobs.
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One of the greatest performers
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of this dance is my friend, Aisha.
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(upbeat music)
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Aisha is very original
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because she has brought a
modern sexy quality to a dance
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which, even though it is based
on fundamental sexual motifs,
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is in its original form extremely chaste.
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The result is a much
higher level of excitement,
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sexual excitement, that is,
and therefore a greater degree
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of aggression towards the audience.
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(upbeat music)
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Did you see what I mean?
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- [Interviewer] Now I
understand what you said
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about the artiste undressing physically,
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but stripping the
spectators bare mentally.
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(upbeat music)
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I find this reaction astonishing.
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You mean...
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Because they're homosexual?
- Right!
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- Don't forget
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that this dance is a spiritual
exaltation of the ass.
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- That makes hash of the
theory of contrasting folds.
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- No, no, there are no
absolute values in nature,
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female or male.
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- I think this interview is turning
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into some kind of anthropology lesson.
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- (indistinct)
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I was just trying to
outline the consequences
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of my theory on the
effect of sensual arousal
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as the essentially intellectual,
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which allows the artiste
to assert her influence
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on the public, whatever their
specific sexual inclinations
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happen to be.
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- Could you give us a different example?
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- Of course. You only have to
take a look
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at Northern Europe, at the
so-called vice capitals.
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(upbeat music)
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(gentle guitar music)
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(slow, intense music)
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The Nordic races, with
their deep-seated fear
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of sex instilled by religious traditions
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and their liberal behavior resulting
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from political choice based
on ancestral individualism,
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are particularly subject to
an extremely cerebral type
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of stimulation.
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And an essential element
in this excitability
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is the contrast of the
normal and the abnormal.
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- [Interviewer] Then according to you,
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they're not voyeurs but philosophers.
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- [Interviewee] Call them
what you like, but remember
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that there is nothing
stupider than feeling superior
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to someone who behaves differently
just because he does so.
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(upbeat music)
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You must have noticed that
the most excited spectators
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were the women, the very ones
who ought to have been disgusted.
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- Perhaps their curiosity was aroused.
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- No, curiosity has nothing
whatsoever to do with it,
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even though curiosity is often given
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as the motive for carrying
out certain experiments
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on sexual activities and behaviorism.
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- Then you think that what
happens in an elegant nightclub
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could also happen in a sideshow tent.
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- Well, I guess it could
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with inevitable variations, of course.
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- A more rough and ready show,
but essentially the same.
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- Yes, one of the components of this show
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would naturally be more in evidence.
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Which one?
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The violence would appear
in a much less subtle form.
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(upbeat music)
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(speaking in foreign language)
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(upbeat music)
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- In a country where the
customs are so free and easy,
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the same goes for costumes.
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Bras and panties have gone
the way of the hoop skirt,
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and if a show is going to be exciting,
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it has to come on strong.
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(upbeat music)
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(speaking in foreign language)
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(audience clapping)
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- [Interviewer] But why the mud?
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- [Interviewee] It's
another sensual element.
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Sadomasochistic, in this case.
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It satisfies the unconscious desire
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in everyone to dominate our
partners up to the point
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of defiling them.
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(upbeat music)
(audience shouting)
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(upbeat rock music)
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To state it in mathematical terms,
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even if you alter the
order of the factors,
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the product remains identical.
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Isn't that so?
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- Yes, but the factors are always women.
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- My most famous number was,
to all outward appearances,
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a tribute to male beauty in
the sense of classical statuary
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reproduced in living flesh.
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But below the surface, lay the
usual sadomasochistic theme:
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the humiliation of the male,
to whose outward appearance
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there is hardly a corresponding
degree of, shall we say,
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efficiency, and humiliation
for the female, who with
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useless determination, attempts
to stimulate this efficiency
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but in vain.
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She offers herself to him
in every possible way.
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And what does he do? Nothing.
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She dances, she writhes,
she grows insistent.
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And what does he do?
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- [Interviewer] He's a hard case.
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I don't know if "hard" is
the right word.
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(both laughing)
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(upbeat music)
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Oh, what's happening?
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Is everything there?
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All right, so long.
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Oh, I suppose you still have
a lot of questions to ask me.
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- When you were performing that number,
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didn't you feel humiliated?
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- Not in the slightest.
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You see, I know that if I really tried,
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I could get a rise out of
a piece of cold macaroni.
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We just wanted to give a little comfort
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to anyone who can't get it up.
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Let's hear more about violence, can we?
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- The more skillful the artiste,
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the greater the sensation she arouses.
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- But art means communication.
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- Of course, it does.
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- Isn't there a contradiction
in what you're saying?
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- Do you think so?
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I'll try and explain to you.
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You see, beauty doesn't
really arouse any emotions.
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- I don't agree.
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- No, it's true.
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In other words, while beauty
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in itself can undoubtedly
arouse a variety of sensations of
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a certain interest, it fails to excite
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the same profound reactions
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that are the essential object
of artistic expressions.
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- Are violent sensations indispensable?
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- Oh, I think they're
underlying everything,
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the whole basis.
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Of course, a beautiful
sight can also produce
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certain agreeable reactions.
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(upbeat music)
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Take a closer look and
you'll see this is just, well,
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to put it frankly, it's lifeless.
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It just doesn't turn you on.
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Like those floor shows they
tell you are really wild.
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Then you find out they're
about as wild as life
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in a monastery, or less.
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(upbeat music)
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(dancers singing in foreign language)
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Performances of this type
belong to the ancient history
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of sex shows by now,
just as Paris has become
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the world capital of
old-fashioned conformity.
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The modern spectator
demands something different.
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And it is up to us in our roles
as artistes and performers
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to satisfy this.
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I'm always ready to do my duty.
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That's what it means to be a professional.
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(smooth, lounge-y music)
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For one day only,
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Omar, the world's greatest lover.
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This is the kind of show that
will arouse today's audiences.
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He's a rather brutal lover.
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A great lover can't be anything else.
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He doesn't have time to
waste on love-play.
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(music continues)
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(music builds in intensity)
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- [Interviewer] I think that's cheating.
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It means the great lover is no better
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than the living statue.
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- [Interviewee] Well, you see,
he needs to be provoked by
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some sort of insult to
his professional dignity.
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(music continues)
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(audience clapping)
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The show is over. The performance
is finished, and behold
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the happy couple who will soon be enjoying
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its liberating effects in
the comfort of their own bed.
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And I'm sure they're not the only ones
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who are feeling that way.
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There must be many of you
out there who have noticed
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the liberating effects
of Omar's performance.
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It's a kind of catharsis in
which the artist functions more
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successfully than any doctor
or psychologist, to free us
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from those innumerable sexual
taboos, which centuries
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of sexual fear have created
between men and women.
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00:52:18,010 --> 00:52:20,804
These taboos have been
branded as being beyond hope
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of redemption.
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Practically all sexual
manifestations, to the point where
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we connect the concept of punishment
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with that of sexual gratification.
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Famous spoilsports like
Luther and Calvin spread this
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ridiculous sense of guilt
through half the peoples
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of central Europe, favoring
the birth of sadism
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and masochism.
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It is due to them that
certain strange manifestations
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of sexual activity
originated in the shadows
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of Gothic spires.
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(upbeat music)
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(whip thudding)
(upbeat music)
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(upbeat music)
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One good turn deserves
another, apparently.
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Naturally, it's a matter
of sensual equality,
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but he gets an added refined touch.
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(speaking foreign
language) The saying goes.
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"We're born in excrement,
and we often die in it, too."
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But some people like to live
in it and to love in it.
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- [Interviewer] How awful.
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- [Interviewee] It's a question of taste.
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And he seems to like the taste.
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00:55:51,431 --> 00:55:53,725
I suppose there are gourmets in this field,
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just like the ones who judge
meat by the way an animal
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was fed.
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Who knows what the poor girl had to eat.
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(upbeat music)
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(upbeat music)
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And now the cycle is complete.
German efficiency, naturally.
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(upbeat music)
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(psychedelic music)
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And since the German soul
is fundamentally romantic,
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this is the joyful climax.
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Obviously, it's more exciting
to be whipped by a gladiator
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in a helmet than by a
bookkeeper with adenoids.
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(upbeat music)
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(psychedelic music)
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01:01:02,784 --> 01:01:04,870
So much for the romantic soul.
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01:01:08,206 --> 01:01:10,917
Now let's turn to something classic.
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(upbeat music)
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The island of Delos, seat
of the Attic confederation
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four centuries BC, has a regular forest
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of objects like this.
Made of marble, naturally,
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which lends its own special charm.
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01:01:50,123 --> 01:01:53,335
Here we have to manage with
expanded polystyrene.
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01:01:54,669 --> 01:01:56,713
Classical scholars see these monuments
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01:01:56,713 --> 01:02:00,050
as symbols of fertility and abundance.
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01:02:00,050 --> 01:02:03,386
To me, they just symbolize
the secret dreams of men
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01:02:03,386 --> 01:02:04,888
and women.
404
01:02:07,057 --> 01:02:10,018
You know, Freud wrote a
whole book on penis envy.
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01:02:12,938 --> 01:02:15,523
(upbeat music)
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01:04:06,801 --> 01:04:09,179
It's a cycle that's being
constantly repeated over
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01:04:09,179 --> 01:04:11,556
and over again in the history of humanity.
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01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:13,933
After every period of
stern sexual repression,
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01:04:13,933 --> 01:04:16,061
there is a period of
complete sexual freedom.
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01:04:16,061 --> 01:04:18,480
- Akind of historical about-face, hmm?
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01:04:19,481 --> 01:04:20,940
- Yes, you could call it that.
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01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:22,192
(both laughs)
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01:04:22,192 --> 01:04:23,360
In fact, that's a very good way
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01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,819
of describing the phenomenon.
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01:04:24,819 --> 01:04:26,404
- So at the present time,
we're in a period when
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the time is telling.
- That's very obvious.
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01:04:27,989 --> 01:04:31,117
(upbeat music)
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01:04:31,117 --> 01:04:32,827
Look at the Americans.
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01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:34,120
They still haven't gotten away
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01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,208
from the Pilgrim Fathers
Puritanism, and they suffer for it.
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01:04:38,208 --> 01:04:39,834
So at home they're puritans,
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01:04:39,834 --> 01:04:43,171
but on vacation they let it all hang loose.
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01:04:43,171 --> 01:04:46,007
- [Interviewer] They don't
look all that loose to me.
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01:04:46,007 --> 01:04:47,801
The only thing they seem
to be able to show is
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01:04:47,801 --> 01:04:50,470
that Americans have no
sense of the ridiculous.
426
01:04:54,015 --> 01:04:55,850
- [Interviewee] They do the best they can.
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01:04:55,850 --> 01:04:58,645
Old ladies dance with
Black men for a thrill,
428
01:04:58,645 --> 01:05:01,189
and retired bank clerks
eye the native girls
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01:05:01,189 --> 01:05:03,108
because that's all they're capable of.
430
01:05:03,108 --> 01:05:05,985
And for people married to
typewriters and adding machines,
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01:05:05,985 --> 01:05:08,321
that's not bad.
(both laughs)
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01:05:08,321 --> 01:05:10,865
(upbeat music)
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01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:40,228
(dancers chanting)
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01:07:03,561 --> 01:07:05,813
The Spanish, on the other hand, reacted
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01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:08,983
to the counter-Reformation
and to dictatorship
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01:07:08,983 --> 01:07:11,778
by demystifying their traditional heroes.
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01:07:11,778 --> 01:07:14,364
(upbeat music)
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01:09:34,629 --> 01:09:37,090
The way Zorro treated the
Governor of California
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01:09:37,090 --> 01:09:38,675
was slightly different.
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01:09:39,592 --> 01:09:42,428
But nowadays, this is more satisfying,
441
01:09:42,428 --> 01:09:44,013
and who wouldn't prefer it?
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01:09:47,058 --> 01:09:49,727
A modern day duel for young and old.
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01:09:59,570 --> 01:10:02,156
(upbeat music)
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01:13:33,117 --> 01:13:35,202
(audience clapping)
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01:13:35,202 --> 01:13:39,707
The duel has finished, as all
duels should, in a dead heat.
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01:13:41,042 --> 01:13:42,585
Both of them are winners.
447
01:13:47,924 --> 01:13:49,884
I found this dress in Bombay.
448
01:13:49,884 --> 01:13:51,636
Do you like it?
- It's sexy.
449
01:13:52,637 --> 01:13:54,931
Let me zip you up.
There.
450
01:13:57,350 --> 01:14:00,061
I must say it looks much
better on you than on me.
451
01:14:00,061 --> 01:14:01,604
Maybe it's the way we contrast.
452
01:14:01,604 --> 01:14:03,064
- Thank you.
- Look.
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01:14:03,940 --> 01:14:06,192
- Well, let's say I'm more
interested in your theory
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01:14:06,192 --> 01:14:08,194
about demystification.
455
01:14:08,194 --> 01:14:11,489
- Demystification isn't the right word.
456
01:14:11,489 --> 01:14:13,157
The sexual symbol is pure--
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01:14:13,157 --> 01:14:14,742
- Like Snow White.
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01:14:14,742 --> 01:14:17,370
- And the Seven Dwarves,
only given the hypocrisy
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01:14:17,370 --> 01:14:19,914
of the times, that symbol was well-hidden.
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01:14:19,914 --> 01:14:21,832
Nowadays, it's just a
matter of bringing it out
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01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:23,000
into the open.
462
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,212
It's more a question of
clarification than demystification.
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01:14:26,212 --> 01:14:28,631
- Sexual symbolism is
present day terminology.
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01:14:28,631 --> 01:14:30,633
- We need only to be more explicit.
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01:14:31,717 --> 01:14:34,303
(upbeat music)
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01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:49,443
Paris. Paris, France.
My friend Renee
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was working there, wildly successful
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01:14:52,029 --> 01:14:54,365
with her version of "Swan Lake."
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01:14:54,365 --> 01:14:55,449
No need to remind you
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01:14:55,449 --> 01:14:58,077
that the swan has always
been a sexual symbol,
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01:14:58,077 --> 01:15:00,496
but this is really
something more explicit.
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01:15:00,496 --> 01:15:03,499
Renee leaves out nothing in
her own interpretation of
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the beauty and the beast.
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01:15:07,294 --> 01:15:10,006
(upbeat music)
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01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:32,648
(audience clapping)
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01:17:41,782 --> 01:17:44,535
(exciting music)
477
01:18:58,609 --> 01:19:02,321
(audience clapping)
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01:19:02,321 --> 01:19:05,866
Explicit. I think that's the word for it.
479
01:19:05,866 --> 01:19:08,661
And as you can see, the members
of the audience seem happy
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01:19:08,661 --> 01:19:10,955
to find something explicit.
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01:19:14,250 --> 01:19:16,835
(upbeat music)
482
01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:36,730
- What you mean is there's
a one-way interpretation
483
01:19:36,730 --> 01:19:37,606
for everything.
484
01:19:37,606 --> 01:19:41,443
Yes, it seems obvious
to me. Any literary work,
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01:19:41,443 --> 01:19:44,071
no matter how innocent it seems,
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01:19:44,071 --> 01:19:47,658
conceals profound and
complex sexual symbolism,
487
01:19:47,658 --> 01:19:49,201
even when it's not evident at first sight.
488
01:19:49,201 --> 01:19:51,745
- You mean including the
Constitution of the United States?
489
01:19:53,289 --> 01:19:55,708
- Of course, but I'm
certainly not going to comment
490
01:19:55,708 --> 01:19:57,293
on that into a tape recorder.
491
01:19:57,293 --> 01:19:59,920
(both laughing)
492
01:20:01,130 --> 01:20:03,674
(upbeat music)
493
01:20:16,437 --> 01:20:17,980
Well, I mean, anyway,
494
01:20:17,980 --> 01:20:22,651
the USA is still very
backward in this sector.
495
01:20:22,651 --> 01:20:25,612
Behind the frenzied facade of
what passes for the capital
496
01:20:25,612 --> 01:20:29,658
of vice, Las Vegas, there
lurks a profound insecurity
497
01:20:29,658 --> 01:20:32,578
handed down from Puritans and Calvinists.
498
01:20:32,578 --> 01:20:33,996
Like this party.
499
01:20:33,996 --> 01:20:37,374
It's trying to be a frenzied
orgy, a la punk chic.
500
01:20:37,374 --> 01:20:39,668
But all it is is punk shit,
501
01:20:39,668 --> 01:20:42,046
with its demented fakes that
are trying to be some kind
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01:20:42,046 --> 01:20:44,798
of twisted transsexual Dracula,
503
01:20:44,798 --> 01:20:46,258
or historical symbols
504
01:20:49,803 --> 01:20:51,764
like La Belle Epoque.
505
01:20:51,764 --> 01:20:54,350
(upbeat music)
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01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:07,005
(exciting music)
507
01:29:09,094 --> 01:29:11,721
- In one final phrase,
could you sum up everything
508
01:29:11,721 --> 01:29:13,181
we've been into so far?
509
01:29:13,181 --> 01:29:15,809
- Oh, yes, in the best, best way.
510
01:29:16,810 --> 01:29:19,396
(breezy music)
511
01:33:11,461 --> 01:33:15,090
Actually, the only final
comment is so very simple.
512
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:17,842
Like everyone else, we've
had our share of provocation,
513
01:33:17,842 --> 01:33:20,261
and we've had to go along with it.
514
01:33:20,261 --> 01:33:22,472
I really don't think there's
anything else to say.
515
01:33:22,472 --> 01:33:23,473
- [Interviewer] No?
516
01:33:25,558 --> 01:33:27,685
- Unless you want me to state the obvious,
517
01:33:28,561 --> 01:33:30,855
but some people certainly won't approve.
518
01:33:30,855 --> 01:33:32,065
But that can't bother us.
519
01:33:32,065 --> 01:33:33,942
- You mean we're victims of our own fate.
520
01:33:33,942 --> 01:33:35,944
- The hypocrites will say that and worse,
521
01:33:35,944 --> 01:33:37,612
but I'll stick to the opinion that any way
522
01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:40,490
of making love is beautiful and true.
523
01:33:40,490 --> 01:33:43,743
(upbeat music)
524
01:34:00,093 --> 01:34:02,345
THE FILMING WITH
AJITA WILSON WAS SHOT
525
01:34:02,345 --> 01:34:04,722
AT THE HOLIDAY INN HOTEL
OF FIUMICINO ROME
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