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I need some kind of sign from you.
I need an indication,
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- some kind of indication, that you...
- What?
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fully understand the stupidity of this.
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- I do.
- Doesn't feel like it.
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How would you like me to behave?
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It feels to me... I have to say, it feels
to me like you think this is nuance,
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that you think there are layers
that have to be explored.
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Why do you say that?
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Well, for one thing,
there's four lawyers in the room
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billing out at, I don't know.
I'm sure you're worth it.
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And you've been here five days.
This is your fifth day.
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But that's my point.
Why do we need lawyers who are worth it?
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Why do we need lawyers?
Why do we need lawyers?
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- You're being sued.
- And you're saying that like it's not insane.
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You're saying that like it isn't...
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Tell me what I'm missing.
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A producer comes up from DC.
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He wants to make a name
for himself in New York.
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He chases a story that's not there.
And the story, it's not a kitten up a tree.
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Chemical weapons, sarin gas on civilians.
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He cooks an interview.
He takes a pair of scissors to raw footage.
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Of a man on the street?
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Of a retired, three-star Marine general.
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We go to air. 48 hours it takes
for the story to come undone
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and with it Atlantis Cable News.
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ACN is brought to its knees.
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The producer's surgical strike is
discovered and the producer is fired.
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Does he write an open letter
to the New York Times,
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apologizing to the public, his colleagues,
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the three-star general,
and the US Armed Forces?
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No, he sues us for wrongful termination.
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And I need to know,
I need some kind of sign from you, Rebecca,
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because you're obviously, all four of you,
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you can't be stupid
and afford haircuts this good.
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I need you to tell me
that this is exactly as insane as it is.
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I'm afraid I'm going to
have to infuriate you.
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- Why?
- Because it is nuanced.
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He cooked an interview.
He took pruning shears to the raw...
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Rebecca, if he doused
the studio in kerosene
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and lit a tiki torch, it wouldn't have
done as much damage as Genoa,
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so where is the complexity?
Where is the nuance?
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His claim is he's a scapegoat.
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- That's his claim?
- Yeah.
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I understand why he'd feel that way,
because it was entirely his fault.
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And if it was entirely his fault,
then it's not at all anyone else's.
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It was not at all anyone else's.
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That's where the plaintiff disagrees.
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And if Dantana was being offered
as a sacrifice to the gods...
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- Oh, Rebecca.
- And it was an institutional failure
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- that led to the airing of Genoa...
- I'm gonna eat this table.
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And he is paying the price for
mistakes that were made above him.
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This isn't an original story, Don.
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- He cooked...
- That's the nuance.
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The nuance is he's gonna
leverage the public's inexhaustible love
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of big shots falling down.
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Charlie, Will, and Mac.
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I know how this ends.
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Why is it called a red team?
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- The blood cells.
- Hmm?
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White blood cells attack an infection,
red blood cells clean it up.
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You have a group of people investigating
a story, they're the white team.
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Other people are purposely
kept out of the loop
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so that when the white team
is ready, they can...
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- Fresh eyes.
- We're supposed to poke holes in it.
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- And were you able to?
- Were we...
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The first red team. You,
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Jim Harper, Sloan Sabbith.
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Was anyone able to poke holes in it?
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No. Other than the made-up interview,
it was a solid story.
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I'm just asking if you
were able to poke holes in it.
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This is exactly what I'm talking about.
What does it matter?
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It matters.
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It matters because
there were holes in the story, right?
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- Yeah.
- Now, Don, a ton of them, right?
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- We didn't see the holes because...
- Ah.
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That's institutional failure, right?
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You don't have to answer that.
In fact, don't.
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I can.
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First red team meeting
was seven months ago.
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Charlie wants more evidence.
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Second red team meeting,
you have Stomtonovich now.
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- Charlie still wants more evidence.
- That's not diligent?
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Third red team meeting,
you have Valenzuela now
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and Charlie green-lights Genoa.
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And I'm asking you,
other than the cooked tape, Mrs. Lincoln,
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were there any holes in the story?
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- Yes.
- But you didn't find any of them.
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We found all of them.
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And I grant you it would've been better
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if we found them before the story aired.
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- You'll grant me that.
- He digitally remastered an interview.
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That is the all of it. That's it.
There was no institutional failure.
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Where was the third red team meeting?
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Where did Charlie give the green light?
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It was right in this room.
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This is an interview
with Gunnery Sergeant Eric Sweeney,
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the first member
of the Genoa crew to come forward.
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It was recorded in September of last year.
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The third red team meeting, red team three,
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we were all walked through
the evidence again.
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One, Jerry gets a tip from Cyrus West,
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a retired Air Force captain
who had just appeared on News Night
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in support of drone strikes.
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Cyrus West is known among people I know
as a guy with ambition.
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What kind of ambition?
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Congress, Dancing With the Stars,
I don't know.
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But you have to take
what he said with a salt lick.
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Did you warn anyone about that?
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I couldn't. I wasn't in the loop.
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You also weren't in New York.
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I was in New Hampshire
with the Romney campaign at the time.
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- Why?
- I was covering for our embed,
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a guy named Ben Furusho who'd hurt himself.
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- How'd he hurt himself?
- Ben?
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- Yeah.
- Mark is asking did he hurt himself
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saving people from a burning building?
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No, he got drunk and tried to jump
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from his second-floor balcony
into the pool at the Nashua Holiday Inn.
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Were you the only
one available to cover for him?
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No.
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Were you the only one
qualified to cover for him?
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No.
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Who made the decision
you should cover for him?
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- I did.
- You sent yourself to New Hampshire?
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I think you know what
these guys are getting at.
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There is a woman I work with.
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Maggie Jordan.
We don't have to make this excruciating.
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You had a relationship with a coworker.
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It wasn't a relationship.
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You had something with Maggie,
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but she was living with Don
and your heart was a little dinged up,
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so you wanted to get out
of town for a while
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and that's why you weren't
available to do your job,
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which at that moment
included saying to MacKenzie,
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"Don't trust Cyrus West."
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What is it Jerry's counting on?
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That you guys don't want
stories like that made public.
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Go back to red team three.
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Genoa got on the air
because I was distracted?
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Go back.
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One, Jerry gets the tip from Cyrus West. The
tip leads him to Eric Sweeney. That's two.
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Here's the Sweeney interview.
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Would you say your
name, rank, and your last billet?
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Gunnery Sergeant Eric Sweeney.
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Before my discharge, I was stationed
with a MARSOC unit in J-bad.
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That's Marine Special Operations
Command in Jalalabad?
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Yes, sir.
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Have you ever heard
of a black op called Genoa?
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Yes, sir.
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Did you participate in that black op?
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This was maybe the hundredth time
I'd seen the Sweeney interview.
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Intel had location on two Marine POWs
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who'd been separated
from their unit three days earlier
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during a firefight in the Hindu Kush.
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They'd been smuggled across the border
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and the Pakistani Taliban
intended to sell them
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for propaganda purposes.
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What does "propaganda purposes" mean?
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They were gonna be publically beheaded.
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And if we didn't get them before they were
moved again, we'd lose them.
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Operation Genoa was an extraction.
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A MARSOC unit flies in
on a couple of Black Hawks
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and grabs our guys,
but the first unit was overrun
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and the second unit, the story goes,
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dropped sarin gas.
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Suddenly I'm tripping
over people screaming.
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Boils and burns on their bodies.
Some of them passed out.
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What did you think
was in the missile?
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I wasn't sure, but I didn't have time to
think about it until we were out of there.
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So later I'm talking to the crew,
I'm asking about the weapons package.
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Why'd the white phosphorus do that?
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And the guy said it wasn't the Willie Pete.
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I said, "What was it?" He said, "Sarin."
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Will was the only one in the room
who hadn't heard the story before.
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I looked over to see
what his first reaction was going to be.
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And the guy said
it wasn't the Willie Pete.
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I said, "What was it?" He said, "Sarin."
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There was no expression.
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Cyrus West, Eric Sweeney,
that's one and two.
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The tweets from Hamni8 were three.
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Four was Leon Deit and the NGO report.
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Five was Charlie's source
who handed over the helo manifest.
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This is a list of every
weapon the Black Hawks were carrying,
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or at least one of the two Black Hawks.
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MX-76.
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Five munitions experts
say there's no such thing.
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It's what you write in that spot when your
payload is codeword-classified.
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That's the sarin.
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Charlie's source
was our fifth piece of evidence.
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Were you happy with the evidence so far?
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- Was I?
- Yeah.
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Rebecca, I run our website.
I'm not an investigative reporter.
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Yeah, I'm just asking
how you felt about the evidence so far.
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I'm not qualified to judge the evidence.
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You were on the Genoa team?
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- Yeah.
- You were put on the team?
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- Yes. Yes.
- Neal.
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Don't ever fucking say out loud
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that you are unqualified
to judge the evidence.
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- Wait...
- Don't ever say it again.
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I was absolutely qualified
to chase the Hamni8 tweets,
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- which was my job on the team.
- I get that. You get that.
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They get that. Let's
quit while we're ahead.
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Five was Charlie's source
with the helo manifest.
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Six was Stomtonovich.
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At the time of Genoa,
we still had sarin gas. Is that right?
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- Yes, we did.
- You're sure of this?
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We had sarin gas at the time of
Genoa and we have sarin today.
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According to the OPCW,
the US was scheduled
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to have completed its destruction
of chemical weapons by 2007.
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The US missed that deadline.
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Stop the tape, please.
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What are we gonna do
about the basketball game?
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We'll blur it out.
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Why was the interview conducted
in front of a game?
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- He wanted it on.
- Why not move his chair?
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I wanted the Marine
paraphernalia in the shot,
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but to get that,
I couldn't frame out the screen,
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which I knew I could take out later.
Is this important?
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Still no reaction from Will.
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Stomtonovich was six
and then Valenzuela was seven.
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I conducted the interview with
Lance Corporal Herman Valenzuela
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on August 22, the day before yesterday.
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- Here it is.
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Did you use gas on the mission?
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Valenzuela, the crew chief on board
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one of the two MARSOC helos, confirms
everything we've been told by West,
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Sweeney, and Stomtonovich,
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all of which is consistent
with the tweets from Hamni8,
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the Leon Deit report and Charlie's
source with the helo manifest.
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The presentation is over
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and Will's just heard
everything for the first time.
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This is what's been happening
for the last 11 months.
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Yeah, I had a hunch.
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You did?
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I heard the same story.
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That came as kind of a shock
to everybody.
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Like Charlie's source,
Will was only able to identify
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him or her as reliable
and in a position to know.
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At that moment...
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I know what you're gonna ask
and it doesn't matter.
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Sloan, at that moment,
did anyone in the room...
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You've got everyone, you've got the
president of the news division,
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the editor and anchor in chief, the EP,
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- senior producer, staff.
- It didn't matter.
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Did anyone at that moment think to ask
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if Charlie's source
and Will's source were the same person?
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It didn't matter.
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- Did anyone...
- It was already a go.
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Will's source was just extra.
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It didn't make you feel more confident
that Will had heard it, too?
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- Yes.
- Did anyone ask?
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No.
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How many more times
did you review the evidence?
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I'm not sure.
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We went through
the whole thing maybe four more times.
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I'm ready to say go.
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You know how I feel.
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- I'm convinced.
- I'm not.
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- I know.
- Mac.
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Tell me why.
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It just doesn't feel right.
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11 months of reporting versus your gut?
I'll take the reporting.
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- I'd take Jim's gut.
- Me, too.
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You worship at the altar
of logic and reason.
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And I don't believe this many people
could keep something like this a secret.
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- Well, they didn't.
- Jerry, I know these guys.
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Due respect, Jim,
but you fetishize these guys.
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Two million men and women
in the armed services.
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You were embedded with a couple of units.
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- You know a few of these guys.
- Hang on.
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I don't think it's
fetishizing to admire people
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who signed up to fight
a couple of wars that neither one of us
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wanted to dirty our hands with, but I
do give them the benefit of the doubt.
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I gave them the benefit of the doubt, too,
until I saw pictures
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of what's-her-name doing
the "get this" pose
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next to prisoners in dog collars
wired to car batteries.
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It doesn't feel right?
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We've tortured, drowned, wiretapped,
renditioned, and suspended due process,
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but you think we drew a moral
and legal line someplace?
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- Are you one of the Andrews Sisters?
- All right.
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It doesn't feel right because...
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It doesn't feel right
because I was the one leading the team.
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I'm sure that's not what Jim was gonna say.
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No, it's exactly what I was going to say.
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What's your concern with me?
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My concern is that I don't know you.
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Well, that's a lame reason.
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No, right now he's being
paid to be skeptical.
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I didn't show up one day.
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I've been working
at the DC bureau for eight years.
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We may be the ugly stepsister,
but it worked for you, too, Charlie.
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- Don.
- When Jim doesn't feel good about a story,
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I take it seriously.
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But I have another concern
which Mac and I talked about last March.
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- Do you remember this?
- Yeah. Safety.
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Isn't there a chance
we're putting soldiers in danger?
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- Yes.
- Even rioting.
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Plus the "get this" pictures
with the dog collars
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was the single best recruiting tool
al-Qaeda's ever had.
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You're saying don't run a story
about the use of chemical weapons
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- because it might be dangerous?
- I am.
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But the chemical weapons,
they're not dangerous?
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I'm saying the needs of the many...
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It's the protests
that we should be worried about?
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I also think we should consider
there's an election going on.
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You think we shouldn't run it
until after November?
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I think we should wait until we're sure.
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We are sure. You just don't like the story.
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"It is illegal to develop, produce,
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"otherwise acquire,
transfer directly or indirectly,
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"receive, stockpile, retain,
own, possess, or use
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"or threaten to use any chemical weapon.
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"Any person who violates
section 229 of this title
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"and by whose action the death
of another person is the result
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"shall be punished by death
or imprisoned for life."
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That's not the Geneva Conventions,
that's US federal law.
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Whose case are you arguing?
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I'm just making sure
we know what we're accusing these guys of.
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Who, by the way, rescued two
Marines while taking heavy fire.
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If these guys are charged,
there could be riots here at home, too.
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- God, Don, just stay in your house.
- Okay.
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Will?
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He sat there a long time before he said...
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I trust Charlie and Mac.
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All right, we're going.
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Lock it down.
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15 seconds. Stand by roll-in.
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- Stand by.
- Standing.
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- G118.
- Standing.
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- Ready roll-in.
- Here we go, Will.
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And roll in.
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We've been at war with al-Qaeda
and its allies for over 10 years.
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War demands sacrifice. Sometimes of
liberty, sometimes of livelihood
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and sometimes of life.
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But does it require us
to abandon the principles
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for which we're fighting and inch by inch
resemble more the enemy we fight?
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As Alfred Adler once said, "It is easier to fight
for one's principles than to live up to them."
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This is ACN Reports and tonight
we tell you the story of Operation Genoa,
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a made-for-Hollywood tale
of a daring rescue mission.
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It's to you to decide
if the mission was a success.
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Our report begins with a firefight
in Afghanistan's Hindu Kush
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that separated two Marines
from their pinned-down unit.
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Go three.
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The mountains of the Hindu Kush
have been violent tribal areas
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since before Alexander the Great
marched through Persia on his way to India.
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On one dangerous night in March 2009,
two young Marines were on patrol...
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Intelligence they were gonna be smuggled
across the border by Pakistani Taliban.
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- And what else did the intelligence tell you?
- There was a ticking clock.
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We knew they were gonna be sold
for propaganda purposes.
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- Sold to al-Qaeda?
- Yes.
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- In a matter of days?
- Hours, really.
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According to the Organization
for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons...
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Ready 17. Stand by 19 through 22A.
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Standing.
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But we sat down with
a Marine three-star general,
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an expert in chemical weapons
with knowledge of Operation Genoa.
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At his request, we blacked out his face
and electronically altered his voice.
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Go 17.
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According to the OPCW,
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the US was scheduled to have
completed its destruction
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of chemical weapons by 2007.
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The US missed that deadline.
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They extended it to 2012
and they missed that deadline, too.
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At the time of Genoa,
we destroyed at least 87%...
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We asked if any exceptional
measures were used in the operation.
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Exceptional measures were called for.
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We asked if sarin gas was used.
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We used sarin.
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A crew chief from the operation
speaks to us
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when ACN Reports returns right after this.
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What are your duties as crew chief?
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I'm in charge of the
crew and the equipment.
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Do you oversee the loading
of the helicopter, the payload?
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Yes, during preflight,
I'd be responsible for the payload.
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being roughly 7,500 tons of sarin.
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The Pentagon declined
our request for an interview.
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For everyone at ACN Reports,
I'm Will McAvoy. Good night.
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Are you here for a call?
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Congratulations?
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General Stomtonovich.
Charlie, he's screaming.
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He says he never said they used sarin.
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It's on film.
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- He says he never said that.
- It's on film.
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- I knew this would happen.
- It happens all the time.
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These guys get cold feet
or someone at the DOD begs them to recant.
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What's he saying we did?
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Edited him out of context.
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- Did you tell him we have the raw footage?
- Yeah.
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Raw footage isn't edited out of context.
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- It isn't edited at all.
- I told him that.
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- What did he say?
- He said he was gonna kill me.
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Did he say it the way Mac says it to me
or did it seem like he meant it?
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- I mean it when I say it to you.
- He was very upset.
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Tell him I'm gonna go right now
to look at the raw interview again
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and that he can look at
it with me if he wants.
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All right.
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- We knew things were gonna happen.
- Yeah.
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Chemical weapons expert wants to kill me.
I make the worst enemies.
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Seriously, I'm a perfectly nice guy.
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People are celebrating out there.
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- Yeah, I'm coming out.
- Who's playing?
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The California Golden Bears
are hosting the UCLA Bruins.
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You'll watch anything, won't you?
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Yeah.
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Why are there two clocks?
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One's the game clock
and one's the play clock.
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The game clock is showing
how much time is left in the quarter
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and the play clock shows
how much time is left to get off the play.
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They only have a certain amount of
time to complete the play?
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They only have a certain amount of time
to start the play.
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Don't have that rule in soccer.
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They don't have any rules in soccer.
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That's why you think a game
that ends in a zero-zero tie
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- is a gamely fought match.
- It's called nil-nil.
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I was trying to keep it from being worse.
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I was helping you out.
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Do any other sports have enforced pacing?
Does baseball?
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No, pitchers commonly
go for a sandwich between pitches.
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Golf, you can be penalized for slow play.
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Hockey, you can hang onto the puck
for as long as you want,
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but before too long a guy
named Lars is gonna hurt you.
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Basketball has a shot clock.
You've got 24 seconds
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to put up a shot, or in college it's 35.
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Tennis, you can lose a point for slow play.
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- Listen.
- Yeah.
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Should we be worried about
the Stomtonovich call?
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- It's on film.
- Okay.
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I'm gonna look at it again now.
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Go Bruins! Beat the Golden Bears.
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Beat them as hard as you can.
Beat them with impunity!
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- You have no idea what you're saying.
- I know.
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- We thought the DOD would have...
- I thought.
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I thought the DOD would have a response
on their website by midnight.
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But by 6:00 a.m.
we hadn't heard anything yet.
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- Come on in.
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00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,037
Excuse me.
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- You guys have met?
- We have.
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00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,153
- How are you?
- Good, thank you.
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She says she never heard
Stomtonovich say it happened.
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- Then that's what it is.
- Even in her condition?
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- Hmm?
- You'd take her word for it in her condition?
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In the condition she was in
when they did the interview?
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She's not in a condition,
and yes, I'd take her word for it.
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00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,953
If she wasn't sure, she'd
say she wasn't sure.
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00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,839
On the witness stand, that's not
gonna sound like honorable loyalty.
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00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,559
It's gonna sound like you're
willing to believe anybody
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as long as you slept with them.
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This is the very last polling data
taken before the polls open tomorrow.
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Who's gonna win?
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The President will be reelected.
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But Tulsi Gabbard's gonna
win in Hawaii's second.
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She'll be the first Samoan in Congress.
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And Kerry Bentivolio is gonna take the seat
vacated by Thaddeus McCotter,
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who came out with my pick for the best
resignation statement of all time.
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"The recent event's totalities of
calumnies, indignities and deceits
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"have weighed most heavily upon my family.
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"Thus, acutely aware
one cannot rebuild their hearth
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"among the ruins of their US House office,
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"for the sake of my loved ones,
I must strike another match,
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"go start anew by embracing the promotion
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"back from public servant
to sovereign citizen."
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Sounds like he and his friends
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern
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are about to take a journey by sea to ask the
Duke of Verona for his most kind blessing.
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I like you, Keefer.
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00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,354
My trust in Maggie
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has nothing to do with anything
but the right things.
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6:00 a.m., you hadn't heard from the DOD.
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7:00 a.m., 8:00 a.m., nothing.
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- Maybe they hadn't seen the show.
- They see the Internet.
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00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,200
This was Monday morning, September 10.
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00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,430
Yeah.
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You had another story creeping up on you.
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00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,234
Nobody knew that yet.
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00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,675
Everybody below the producer level
has to take a shift doing the book.
476
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,598
That morning it was Neal's turn.
477
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,955
What's the book?
478
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,551
Neal.
479
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,037
It seems like it's my turn
more often than it should be.
480
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,236
Man up.
481
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,834
I'm always manned up.
That's my default mode.
482
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,240
Then go into ultra man mode.
483
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,551
The women here couldn't deal
with my ultra man mode.
484
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,359
Probably not. Are you gonna take this?
485
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,440
- It's heavy.
486
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,436
- Intern. Come on over.
- Yes?
487
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,516
This is the overnight book.
488
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,116
The night crew puts together every story
and every press release from everywhere.
489
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,351
Go through this and separate
it into four piles,
490
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,080
knew that, didn't know that,
don't care, and Shakira.
491
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,311
- But that one's just for me, all right?
- Neal.
492
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,760
- There's no statement yet.
- I know.
493
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,160
It's the Pentagon.
494
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,431
Is it possible they've responded
in a secret corner of the Internet?
495
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,590
Secret corner of the Internet?
496
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,240
Slay a dungeon wizard
to get the keys to Mordor or something?
497
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,352
- It's not possible.
- Something that we need that Dumbledore...
498
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,517
- Listen to yourself.
- I know, it's getting worse as I go on.
499
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,478
- And it didn't start in a great place.
- Nothing in the book?
500
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,630
Well, there are gonna be a ton of things
501
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,756
in the book, but not from the Pentagon.
502
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,479
I thought on the off chance
someone got a quote from them.
503
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,392
- We'd know about it.
- Obviously I'm grasping at straws, Neal.
504
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,840
There's no call to be patronizing.
505
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,680
- You're right.
- Thank you.
506
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,757
- Well, you're not, 'cause Mordor...
- I'm not the expert.
507
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,840
You don't say.
508
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,519
Do the book
and don't just farm it out to an intern.
509
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,120
I'm delegating.
510
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,272
- Fast Nationals?
- Right here.
511
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,240
Just tell me if the number
begins with a three.
512
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,471
- It doesn't.
- 2.9?
513
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,560
2.7?
514
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,037
5.8 million viewers.
515
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,633
- Shut the fuck up.
- That's gonna double
516
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,030
when they add live-plus-same-day
and live-plus-seven.
517
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,355
- Jesus Christ!
- Congratulations.
518
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,033
Congratulations, man!
519
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:41,759
Tracking looked good, but not like this.
520
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,957
That's an I Love Lucy number.
521
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,676
Yes.
522
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,797
Yes. What?
523
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,236
Don't worry about the
call from Stomtonovich.
524
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,436
I'm not.
525
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,273
I am a little bit and I'll tell you why.
526
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,194
He didn't sound like a guy with cold feet.
He was certain of what he said
527
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,079
and he said it
to me three times the exact same way.
528
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,990
There was one camera, no cuts.
He's not a young guy. It all happened fast.
529
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,515
He's thinking about the size of it
for the first time now.
530
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,399
Yes. Yeah.
531
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:12,635
The size of it.
532
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,558
A new story creeping up on us?
533
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,111
The morning of September 10.
The day after the broadcast.
534
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,431
It was Neal's turn to
do the overnight book,
535
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,160
- but he staffed it out to an intern.
- Jenna Johnson.
536
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,512
Are you talking about Benghazi?
537
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,560
Anything?
538
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,950
Jerry Brown's challenged
Chris Christie to a race.
539
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,040
Sponsored by HeartBlast,
540
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,237
a new defibrillator company
from the people who brought you...
541
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,960
Piers Morgan and Rihanna
had a Twitter fight about her haircut.
542
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,316
I'll give you $100 if you
go pitch that to Will.
543
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,074
I know you're not gonna
think this one's important, but it is.
544
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,514
- Star Magazine...
- Nope.
545
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,720
is reporting that a palace source
confirmed that Kate Middleton is pregnant.
546
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,872
- That's news I want to hear.
- You just did. Anything else?
547
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,233
Lady Gaga showed a lot of cleavage
548
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040
- at an after-party for the Paralympic Games.
- Put that one aside.
549
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,477
- Oh, and Terry Jones the Florida pastor?
- Yeah.
550
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,871
He's screening the trailer to a movie
called Innocence of Muslims.
551
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,474
- We thought...
- I thought.
552
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,111
I thought, everyone thought
553
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,715
that when the DOD posted its response,
it would be vague.
554
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,671
"Pentagon doesn't comment
on classified operations,
555
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,712
"but we have serious
problems with the story
556
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,480
"aired by Atlantis Cable News last night."
Something like that.
557
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,674
You know the reason it was
taking them so long to respond?
558
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,156
No.
559
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,596
They were bringing a lawyer
into the Pentagon press office.
560
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,998
- Pentagon counsel?
- And another lawyer.
561
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,349
Matlock?
562
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,399
The Attorney General.
They weren't fucking around.
563
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,553
We knew there'd be pushback.
564
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,913
But not like that.
565
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,670
"We are considering any
and all legal remedies
566
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,719
"available to us including
under the Espionage Act.
567
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,472
"In the interim, we will begin
declassifying documents
568
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,870
"to prove the falsity of ACN's claims."
569
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,671
If I'm a lawyer in that room, I don't
write that response unless I'm sure.
570
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,910
We were sure.
571
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,159
Still? It's noon, Monday.
572
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,715
Charlie got everyone together
in the conference room.
573
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,793
He polled everyone to see
if they were still standing by the story.
574
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720
People were resolved.
575
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,678
Jim had already said his piece.
576
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,195
His job was to support Mac now,
and that's what he was doing.
577
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,033
At the expense of good advice?
578
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,840
He'd given his advice.
579
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,594
And Charlie, Mac, and Will
had given their instructions.
580
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,880
Of course they pushed back.
What do we expect them to...
581
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,600
"Well, you caught us. Bravo to you, sirs.
582
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,592
"We'll walk ourselves
over to Leavenworth now."
583
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,960
You know at some point at Little Bighorn,
I'll bet Custer led a unanimous vote
584
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,151
where everyone said,
"I still think we can win."
585
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,431
Then came Elliot's show that night.
586
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,791
You know, Elliot was really
the only guy on the team
587
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,355
who hadn't gotten dirty with Genoa yet.
588
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,113
So we dropped dirt on him.
589
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,600
Go.
590
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,319
The second MARSOC team
dropped sarin?
591
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,033
- Yes.
- You're sure?
592
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,430
- Yes.
- That's why you wore the MOPP suits?
593
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,274
That's why we wore the MOPP suits
and that's why civilians died.
594
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080
That was another clip from
last night's ACN Reports,
595
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,671
the startling and provocative story
of the extraction of two captured Marines.
596
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,040
Joining us by satellite
from Trenton, New Jersey,
597
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,635
is former Marine Gunnery Sergeant
Eric Sweeney,
598
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,229
a member of the MARSOC team
that executed the extraction,
599
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,390
which was codenamed Genoa,
600
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,269
and I should say the first member of the
team to step forward and tell his story.
601
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,760
- Welcome, Mr. Sweeney.
- Thank you.
602
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,674
Let's start there. What made you come
forward and speak to the press?
603
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,395
I wish I could say it was honorable.
It was a guilty conscience.
604
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,199
- Guilty that...
- I knew what we'd done.
605
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,872
"Any and all legal remedies."
Is that something they usually say?
606
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,997
They said it when the SEAL
released his bin Laden book.
607
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,549
- They haven't charged him.
- The Espionage Act?
608
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,519
Do you know how many journalists have ever
been tried under the Espionage Act?
609
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,829
- None.
- Good.
610
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,833
'Cause you wouldn't make it in jail, Don.
611
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,436
I'd survive, but you wouldn't.
In fact, I'd thrive.
612
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,590
How do you figure?
613
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,399
- Shawshank.
614
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,440
I'd do everybody's taxes
and invest the warden's money.
615
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,552
What are you gonna do?
Produce their nightly news show?
616
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,434
- Is this our sound or his?
- His. We're good.
617
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,840
We want to be a force multiplier
618
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,912
where one of us
can do the work of several infantrymen.
619
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,153
"The charge that US Special Operations
used sarin gas is absolutely false."
620
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,870
I don't know. Absolutely?
Why not just say "false"?
621
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,633
"Absolutely" sounds like
the kind of word you use...
622
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,712
This isn't like the time
Chip left you a message in eighth grade
623
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,080
and you and your friends did a lab analysis
to figure out if it meant he liked you.
624
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,360
Chet was his name
625
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,796
and sometimes boys are vague
with their messages.
626
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,109
Was that the first time
627
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,360
that you had to perform a medical procedure
in action?
628
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,109
Move him back to Genoa when you can.
629
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,960
We have advanced combat medicine
as part of our training.
630
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,073
The first time I had to use it, we were
on a mission to pay some tribal leaders...
631
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,674
I don't know what he's
talking about anymore.
632
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,434
We hit two IEDs and my Humvee blew apart
633
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,075
and three of us sustained TBis,
traumatic brain injuries.
634
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,193
And I was dragging a friend of mine...
635
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,112
Did he say "us"?
636
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,673
He said "the three of us."
Traumatic brain injury. He said that.
637
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,876
- TBI?
- I heard it.
638
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,560
Sergeant, did you say that you
sustained a traumatic brain injury?
639
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,636
- Well, it wasn't serious.
- Get out.
640
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,599
- Did you disclose that information to the...
- Get out!
641
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,433
Okay, we've got to go to break,
642
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,511
but we're coming back with Eric Sweeney,
a MARSOC on Operation Genoa.
643
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,319
This is Right Now.
644
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,720
I saw it.
645
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,755
There's a problem with the story.
646
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,479
I know.
647
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,354
All right.
648
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,673
Thank you for coming
in the middle of the night.
649
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,759
And I'm sorry I'm late.
There was a deer on the Merritt Parkway.
650
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,390
The deer ran across
and the car two in front of me hit it.
651
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,756
- Was everyone all right?
- Yeah.
652
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,230
Mac.
653
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,195
Why didn't we know about the TBI?
654
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,237
Everybody listen, okay?
Believe me, I cornered him...
655
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,993
We knew he had two Purple Hearts.
656
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,840
I got him on the phone
in Trenton as soon...
657
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,072
Just back up. We'll do this step by step.
He had two Purple Hearts.
658
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,958
The medical information
is sealed and classified.
659
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,839
He told us one is for a shrapnel wound
in his left shoulder
660
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,355
sustained during an ambush
during his first tour in '08.
661
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,352
- The second is...
- The second, he told us,
662
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,671
was for a stab wound
in his leg he got while trying
663
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,639
to subdue an angry teenage militant
in Kapisa Province.
664
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,080
That's the one he was lying about.
665
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,152
The second Purple Heart was for the TBI.
666
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,709
- He showed us the knife wound.
- I asked him about that, too.
667
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,752
He got it in his kitchen
trying to open a CD.
668
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,110
He didn't tell us about the TBI because
he didn't think we'd believe his story.
669
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,759
Isn't that another way of saying
670
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,355
he wanted to tell the Genoa story
so badly he lied?
671
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Well, so why would he lie
about a story that wasn't true?
672
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,673
What's the biggest effect of a TBI?
673
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520
- I get that it's memory loss.
- It's memory loss.
674
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,757
And it's dizziness and speech deficits.
675
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,440
We didn't see any of those
in the hundred hours we spent with him.
676
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,159
I don't understand.
So at least he doesn't have
677
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,913
all the symptoms of a
traumatic brain injury?
678
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,074
GI Jim, what percentage of soldiers
taken to Walter Reed have a TBI?
679
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,594
- A lot.
- It's 30%.
680
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,036
So we're not gonna listen
to a third of wounded vets?
681
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,589
We made this one a key witness
in an accusation of murder.
682
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,995
He lied about an injury
683
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,276
and the injury's number one symptom
is memory loss.
684
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Bring him up from Trenton.
685
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,750
I'll do a pre-interview myself
and if I'm satisfied,
686
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,400
I can put him through a direct examination
on the air and clean this up.
687
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,757
Yeah, and can I just remind everybody
Sweeney's not our only witness.
688
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,519
We've got Stomtonovich and Valenzuela.
689
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,991
Two more witnesses, only 50% of whom
are recanting what they said.
690
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,560
Stomtonovich can recant all he wants.
691
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,921
We have the unedited tape
and Jerry and Maggie were there.
692
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,960
Mmm-hmm.
693
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,713
For the record, I wasn't.
694
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,116
Wasn't what?
695
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,720
I was sent out of the room
before the interview started.
696
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,752
- Good. Let's get it all out now.
- Why?
697
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,912
You and Charlie told him
it was going to be Jerry.
698
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,872
You didn't tell him an AP was coming along.
699
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,078
He had had me investigated, but not Maggie,
so he didn't feel comfortable...
700
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,277
- You were the only one in the room with him?
- Yeah, I was.
701
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,999
- And I see what's happening here.
- Nothing's happening.
702
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,280
Can I bring something else up?
703
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,637
We aired the story 27 hours ago,
so, yeah, now's the time.
704
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,514
We aborted the interview
with Sweeney tonight.
705
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,080
- I did.
- Uh, I did.
706
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,719
- Should you have?
- I don't know.
707
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,917
I was suddenly in a position
where I was asking questions
708
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,196
I didn't know the answers to
about our own story.
709
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,720
If it hadn't been our own story,
wouldn't you have kept going?
710
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,480
"Did you disclose that
to the Genoa producers?
711
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,117
"No? You lied? How has a TBI for which
you received a Purple Heart..."
712
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,760
Yes, he would have kept going.
I shut him down.
713
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,433
- It was live air.
- That doesn't make us look great.
714
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,836
Looking great wasn't
one of their options right then.
715
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,480
Everybody knock it off!
716
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,552
Sister Mary Mother of God.
717
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,872
We have a problem. That's all it is.
718
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,395
We're not gonna have a fucking scrum!
719
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,238
What do we have? What?
720
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,871
A retired Marine general
started getting calls from his buddies.
721
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,394
"What the hell is going on?"
722
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,119
His voice was altered.
His face was blacked.
723
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,159
There are six people
who have the information he has
724
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,476
and generals don't have dumb friends.
725
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,994
What else?
726
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,759
A witness who once had a concussion.
727
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,479
- While saving other people's lives.
- Thank you.
728
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,315
- That's not...
- Jim, while being courageous.
729
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,359
And he was courageous again
stepping forward.
730
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,510
Kids used to lie about their age
to get in the Army and fight in a war.
731
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,920
That's what Sweeney did here.
732
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,753
How much of what you're saying
do you believe right now?
733
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,990
60%.
734
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,072
I thought it was in the mid-80s.
You pulled it off.
735
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,514
Experience.
736
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,240
You need to talk to Deep Throat.
737
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,033
I'm on the first shuttle to Washington.
738
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,840
- Have you talked to him on the phone?
- We don't talk on phones.
739
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,593
- How about your guy?
- We talk on phones.
740
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,280
He's asking have you talked to your guy?
741
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,472
- An hour ago.
- And?
742
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,791
He says stand by the story.
743
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,076
We go back over every inch
starting right now.
744
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,749
By 8:00 tonight, I want Will to
be able to say we stand by it.
745
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,309
And when he says it, we stand by it.
746
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,472
Break 'em into teams.
747
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,714
Had you realized yet
at the time of that meeting
748
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,040
that Sweeney and Stomtonovich
weren't your only problem?
749
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,680
Who says they weren't our only problem?
750
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,673
Right.
That was an example of a leading question.
751
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,397
A leading question suggests its own answer.
752
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,437
When did you stop beating your wife, right?
753
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,074
We never established I beat my wife.
754
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,913
We never established you're married.
755
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,110
- I'm not.
- Yeah.
756
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,232
I'm not following you, Rebecca.
757
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,313
MacKenzie had realized
at the time of the meeting
758
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,920
- that Sweeney and Stomtonovich...
- There's no way.
759
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,753
- There's no way.
- Jim, listen to me.
760
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,833
- There's no way Mac's to blame for this.
- Valenzuela was your third witness.
761
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,560
I have seen lawyers do some
things in my life. Jesus.
762
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,353
Just listen.
763
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,598
First red team, you have Sweeney,
you don't go to air.
764
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,071
Red team two, you have Sweeney and
Stomtonovich, you don't go to air.
765
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,996
Red team three, you have Valenzuela now
and Charlie green-lights it.
766
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,069
Valenzuela was an important witness.
767
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,269
Yeah.
768
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,675
And?
769
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,800
What if I led him?
770
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,758
- Valenzuela?
- In his pre-interview.
771
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,797
I've read the pre-interview transcript
100 times.
772
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,270
I read it 1,000 times, but
I've just read it again
773
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,790
and I have to wonder
if I inadvertently led on that witness.
774
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,838
- You didn't.
- I can make the case that I did.
775
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,240
Look at what's good on the story.
776
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,950
Stomtonovich, he didn't like the report.
Sorry, but we've got him on film.
777
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,719
Sweeney, he wants to be heard
778
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,320
and he thinks he'll be discounted
'cause of the TBI, so he lies.
779
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,631
And by the way,
if I had a traumatic brain injury
780
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,519
and knew that information
couldn't be discovered
781
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,479
unless I volunteered it,
I wouldn't volunteer it.
782
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,911
I have a source. Is it POTUS?
No. It's better.
783
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,400
What would it take for you
to tell me the source?
784
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,040
Someone would have to be torturing you.
785
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,679
That's sweet, but...
786
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,320
- Charlie has a source. You trust Charlie?
- Of course.
787
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,874
And we have Valenzuela.
788
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,713
There is much more about
this story that's good...
789
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,194
And I'm saying what if I led Valenzuela?
790
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,556
I objected to that in courtrooms for years.
791
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,438
I know what a leading question sounds like.
792
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,600
Then you know I asked them.
793
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,080
You have to ask them in these situations.
794
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,556
The guy... He was reluctant.
He didn't want to talk.
795
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,030
Read the first line on page three.
796
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,438
We have a three-star general
who's an expert in chemical weapons."
797
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,155
We have a three-star general
who's an expert in chemical weapons.
798
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:35,594
Do you think he's lying?
799
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,311
There was a video camera
on a tripod to record the pre...
800
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,232
What if he thought the camera... What if
he thought the interview might get...
801
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,159
You know, and he doesn't
want to call a general a liar?
802
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,594
- That's nuts.
- It's not.
803
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,559
He came to us.
He didn't want Sweeney to stand alone.
804
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,639
And if Sweeney's wrong, then I gave
the wrong information to Valenzuela.
805
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,595
Valenzuela's whole interview was goosed
by the information that came before it.
806
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,156
Sweeney says everyone
was wearing MOPP suits.
807
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,270
He told you that?
808
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,353
What if Sweeney's got problems
and what if Valenzuela's his only friend?
809
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,432
Look at line 303.
810
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,593
I don't want Sweeney to stand alone.
811
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,354
He doesn't raise
one original fact in this interview.
812
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,635
Read it again.
813
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:30,192
By the end, it's a recitation of everything
he's heard from Sweeney and from me.
814
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,757
You need to sleep.
815
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,356
A garage?
816
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,390
- Seriously?
- They still work.
817
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,472
This place can't afford security monitors.
818
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,714
What brings you to Washington, D.C.?
819
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,595
- We're having trouble with the story.
- No shit.
820
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,831
Tell me one more time we got it right.
821
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,116
You want to see some pictures of David?
822
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,510
- I'm sorry?
- Do you want to see some pictures of David?
823
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,592
- Who's David?
- David's my son, Charlie.
824
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,440
Is there a problem with the story?
825
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,354
There he is.
We're moving him into his dorm at BU.
826
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,312
And here he's home for Thanksgiving.
827
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,194
- Shep.
- Hang on.
828
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,559
That's on the Cape.
We rent a house in August.
829
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,311
Here's a picture
he sent me his first day interning at ACN.
830
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,273
And there he is, first day home
from rehab at Sierra Tucson.
831
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,956
And this one's from his funeral last year.
832
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,360
Jesus, Shep.
833
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,358
I know, I took a picture at a funeral.
834
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,960
That's crazy, but it's just for you.
835
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,280
They call it heron now.
836
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,639
Like the bird, just a little heron.
837
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,120
I didn't have any idea.
838
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,160
You hired him as a summer intern
on his 90th day.
839
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,038
Three months is a landmark in that world.
840
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,720
Three everything... Three days, three
weeks, three months, three years.
841
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,314
Who the fuck knows why?
842
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:01,792
- Are you sure you don't want to sit?
- We're in a garage!
843
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,995
We can go somewhere.
844
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,072
One of your people, Charlie,
one of your people...
845
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,914
One of your people fired him
and you didn't stop it.
846
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,595
I wish, man... I wish you'd talked.
There's an explanation.
847
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:13,439
You didn't stop it.
848
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,592
He was a good kid.
He was a smart kid and a worker.
849
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,400
He was a 19-year-old junkie,
but he was clean 90 days.
850
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,591
- Our social media guy runs the interns.
- Neal Sampat.
851
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,319
- David...
- Whose name you didn't know.
852
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,075
was posting...
Is this something you really want to hear?
853
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,590
Yes. From you, badly.
854
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,718
- I never knew anything...
- He posted something on the Internet?
855
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,793
- Look.
- Yeah?
856
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,238
A couple of years ago,
News Night got a new EP and the show...
857
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,838
Boy, is your wife...
858
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,240
Linda is my ex-wife.
859
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,832
The show took a turn and what?
860
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,317
David posted things about it
on the Internet he didn't like.
861
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,278
Things about...
862
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,352
- He was politically engaged.
- Mmm-hmm.
863
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,794
- Neal...
- Neal Sampat.
864
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,159
Neal warned him he can't do that
and he kept on doing it.
865
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,477
- I'm sorry.
- You didn't step in.
866
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,270
He deserved to be fired.
867
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,191
How many stories have I given you?
868
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:15,511
There was a moment a while back
I thought about having you killed.
869
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,714
Then I thought, "What does Charlie Skinner
fear more than death?"
870
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,520
"Sit back, wait for your moment."
871
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:26,872
Then Jerry Dantana starts
calling MARSOCs about Genoa.
872
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,079
The helo manifest you gave me.
873
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,232
Hold it over light for 20 seconds.
874
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,633
So that happened.
875
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,952
- Are you kidding me?
- No.
876
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,633
Are you kidding me with this story?
877
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,955
No, this is all...
878
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,230
All terribly true.
879
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,789
- There are protests erupting in Cairo.
880
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,671
March 2, 1955.
881
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:55,799
A young black woman is arrested
882
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,277
for refusing to give up her seat
on a bus to a white man in Alabama.
883
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,157
Civil rights leaders
and the ACLU rush to her side
884
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:06,438
and she will be a symbol of the struggle
against segregation.
885
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,309
Her name is Claudette Colvin
and she's 15 years old.
886
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,959
She's also unmarried and pregnant.
887
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,353
Civil rights leaders and the ACLU
decide that Colvin
888
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,672
is not the best foot
forward and stand down.
889
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,956
Eight months later, Rosa Parks happens,
890
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,431
but during that eight months,
a brilliant and charismatic young minister
891
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,033
gets the attention of the community
and is chosen to lead the bus boycotts.
892
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,517
If Claudette Colvin doesn't get pregnant,
893
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,513
if they'd gone in the spring
instead of eight months later,
894
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,389
Martin Luther King is a preacher
you've never heard of in Montgomery.
895
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,553
I've got a few hundred people
outside the embassy
896
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,757
- and so far it's peaceful.
- That's what I've got.
897
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,320
- Which embassy?
- Ours.
898
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,400
What are they protesting?
899
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,436
Is anybody getting through
to Cairo?
900
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,240
I've got the front desk at the Shepheard
Hotel. It's a couple blocks away.
901
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,199
He's saying that people have been streaming
toward the embassy for about an hour.
902
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,476
- Is he saying how many?
- He thinks a couple of thousand.
903
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,756
- Thousand?
- A poli sci professor at AU in Cairo
904
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,514
says that a Salafist leader
named Wesam Abdel-Wareth...
905
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,911
He's like the Glenn Beck of Egypt and he's
the president of a television station.
906
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,640
He put out a call to protest a movie
called Muhammad's Tribe.
907
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:06,756
Why are they at the American embassy?
908
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,040
Apparently it's an American movie,
but we can't find it.
909
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,309
Wait a second.
910
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,997
What's the name of the pastor
with the mustache who's crazy?
911
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,315
- Terry Jones.
- Yes.
912
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,676
He announced yesterday
that he was screening a movie.
913
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,040
- I can't remember the name.
- Innocence of Muslims.
914
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,793
Is it possible it's the same movie?
915
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,439
Who is Giuseppe Zangara?
916
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:31,438
I don't really know. He's a guy with a gun
who fired five shots in February 15, 1933,
917
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,557
killing the Mayor of Chicago.
918
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,155
Why? Because Zangara
was standing on a wobbly chair.
919
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,240
And the Mayor of Chicago wasn't his target.
920
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,880
It was the guy the mayor
was shaking hands with,
921
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,794
the newly elected
President Franklin Roosevelt.
922
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,272
If Zangara's chair isn't wobbly,
Roosevelt never takes office
923
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,194
and we swear in his running mate,
John Nance Garner,
924
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,840
a man whose political ideology was the basis
for his opposition to a package of legislation
925
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,478
that would be called The New Deal
and we don't survive the Great Depression.
926
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,240
It's the same movie. Innocence of Muslims.
927
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,272
He changed the title
to get Muslims in to see it.
928
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,635
There's a mash-up of it on YouTube.
929
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:07,154
Does it seem offensive?
930
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:08,520
To filmmakers at the very least.
931
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,315
Okay, AP has just reported, "Egyptian
Islamist protestors angry over film
932
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,596
"scale US Embassy wall
in Cairo and tear down flag."
933
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:15,949
- The American flag.
- I understand that now.
934
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,838
- Jim, this thing's starting to move.
- They breached the wall.
935
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,956
They've got a link to their website
936
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,156
- with a message.
- I'm on their website.
937
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,880
"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo
condemns the continuing efforts
938
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,395
"by misguided individuals
to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims."
939
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,795
They're apologizing for the movie?
940
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,634
2,000 people just hopped the wall, man.
I'd apologize for whatever they want.
941
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:31,393
- I wouldn't.
- Congratulations.
942
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,751
MargaretJordan@ACN.com.
943
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,593
We'll have video of the flag
in about five minutes.
944
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,114
They took down our flag and replaced it
945
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,919
with a black flag
and in Arabic writing it says...
946
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,440
"There is no God but God
and Muhammad is the prophet of God."
947
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,319
I hope our apology was sincere enough.
948
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,154
You want a job as the guy who answers
the front door of the embassy right now?
949
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:47,640
We're gonna need more bodies on phones.
950
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:49,518
Who are we talking to?
Does London know anything?
951
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,512
London? When was the last time you slept?
952
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,956
I've been busy standing by Genoa.
What about you?
953
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,480
I have no problem standing by it.
954
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,915
You were well trained.
955
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,037
Guys, another demonstration's broken out.
956
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,600
- In Cairo?
- In Libya.
957
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,433
Outside our consulate in Benghazi.
958
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,193
Your kitchen faucet has washers.
959
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,511
They keep water from leaking
through the joints in the fixtures.
960
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,790
And that's what O-rings do.
961
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,276
They're giant washers
that keep pressurized hydrogen
962
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,960
from leaking out of the SRB,
the solid rocket booster,
963
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,400
that shoots the space shuttle
out of the Earth's atmosphere.
964
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,680
These O-rings have been tested and tested
965
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:21,270
under every possible
circumstance but one, cold.
966
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,920
They didn't test to see if the O-rings
worked when it was cold.
967
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Why would they even think to test for that?
968
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,473
The thing's launching from south Florida.
When's it gonna be cold?
969
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,157
On January 28, 1986,
970
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,554
a cold snap dragged the overnight
temperature down to 18 degrees
971
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,714
and it turns out the O-rings
stopped working below 40.
972
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,231
So 73 seconds after the
Challenger lifts off,
973
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,996
it converts itself into
a bomb and detonates.
974
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,356
An American's dead. Don't know who.
975
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,109
- Staff member.
- Consulate staff.
976
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,280
- All this statement says is...
- Statement from who?
977
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,471
Libya's Supreme Security Committee.
978
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,075
"One American staff member has died
and a number have been injured."
979
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,958
- What's his name?
- We don't know.
980
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,350
I want to stop hearing that answer soon.
We have 90 minutes to air.
981
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,756
- Mac, did you want to look at this?
- Not this second.
982
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,672
- They're not releasing names.
- Names?
983
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,110
- They have more than one?
- I don't know if that was the implication.
984
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,669
- Mac.
- It's just an LED readout, right?
985
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,036
Yeah. We put it on brackets on the prompter
986
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,516
and I've got it on remote
from the control room.
987
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,120
A segment is 3 minutes and 50 seconds
988
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,396
and you don't have to be in his ear
at the end of a segment.
989
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,910
He'll appreciate that. Just leave it here.
990
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,072
I'll show it to him and find out what neurotic
superstition he has for not using it.
991
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,516
Copy.
992
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,271
Muhammad. Muhammad
the bastard, your lady summons you.
993
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,352
My lady? My lady?
994
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,632
Don't finish it.
995
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,840
I'm watching you.
996
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,832
What would a military response be?
997
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,637
First Marine FAST,
Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team.
998
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,155
They've got... Right, they've got platoons.
999
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:51,754
- In Spain.
- Rota, Spain.
1000
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,879
That's still 12 hours, right?
1001
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,633
- Jim would know.
- Where is he?
1002
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,030
He and Don
are huddled up working on something.
1003
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,954
So sometimes it's just the one thing.
1004
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,320
He lucked out.
He wouldn't have been able to do it
1005
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,993
if there had been action in the frame.
1006
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,440
Were any exceptional
measures used in the operation?
1007
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,432
Exceptional measures were called for.
1008
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,234
- Like what?
- We used sarin.
1009
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,392
It is right.
It is moral and necessary to use any...
1010
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,033
We used sarin.
1011
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,759
It is right. It is moral...
1012
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,997
Exceptional measures were called for.
1013
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,434
Like what?
1014
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,912
We used sarin. It is right.
1015
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,390
It is moral and necessary to use any means
1016
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,711
in that situation
and the situation they were in.
1017
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,791
You forgot about the shot clock.
1018
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,355
Mac.
1019
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,310
Hey, easy does it.
1020
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,115
The shot clock jumped
from 19 to 3 to 2 to 14.
1021
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,480
He said it, Mac.
1022
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,749
How do you not understand
what you've done?
1023
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,876
He said it before we were rolling.
1024
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,758
- But I couldn't get him to repeat it.
- We have to retract it.
1025
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,600
- He said it to me.
- Do you understand this?
1026
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,040
- Did Genoa happen? It happened.
- That we invented evidence
1027
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,080
- to support a story of a war crime.
- It happened.
1028
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,112
Maggie was there.
She heard him say it. She's just fucked up.
1029
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,316
A war crime.
1030
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,754
- Yeah, it's a war crime and it happened.
- No one...
1031
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,435
We went into Iraq because
he had these things. We don't torture,
1032
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,000
- we don't use chemical weapons.
- No one...
1033
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,438
I wouldn't have done this on any other story
and I wouldn't have done it unless I was sure!
1034
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,315
is ever going to believe us again.
1035
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,391
I think I shouldn't say anything more
until I've talked to a lawyer.
1036
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,037
- You're fired.
- I know.
1037
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,755
We don't think the protests in Benghazi
has anything to do with the movie.
1038
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,832
- We don't think it's a protest.
- What do you think it is?
1039
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,679
- A planned, coordinated attack.
- A terrorist attack.
1040
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,433
- He's got a source at State.
- We've used him.
1041
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,196
He saw an e-mail at the operation center
to White House, Pentagon, and FBI saying
1042
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,239
Ansar al-Sharia is claiming credit
for the attack in Benghazi.
1043
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,118
Will, the movie might
just be a coincidence.
1044
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,357
It's not a movie. Avatar is a movie.
1045
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,635
How bad is this thing?
1046
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,552
- Oh, it's bad.
- It's really not at all good.
1047
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,720
You have been nothing but bad news
since you raised your hand at Northwestern.
1048
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:10,994
Don and Jim have a source at State
that says he saw an e-mail.
1049
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,436
Ansar al-Sharia is saying
they did Benghazi.
1050
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,116
May have nothing to do with Cairo
and it's a 9/11 anniversary attack.
1051
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,274
What?
1052
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,199
Mac?
1053
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,590
We have to retract Genoa tonight.
1054
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,432
All of it.
1055
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,836
A half an hour later,
we retracted the story.
1056
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,358
That was our top story, not Benghazi.
1057
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,080
On Benghazi we didn't trust
the source at State.
1058
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,873
We didn't trust anything anymore.
1059
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,276
We reported the same
thing as everybody else
1060
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,477
even though we knew
we were probably wrong.
1061
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,395
Protesters, angry over an amateur American
movie denouncing Islam,
1062
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,831
attacked the United States
consulate in Benghazi, Libya, today,
1063
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,872
killing a State Department officer.
1064
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,550
While in Cairo, demonstrators stormed
the walls of the United States Embassy.
1065
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,238
On the anniversary of 9/11...
1066
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,876
We just stopped being good at...
1067
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,319
Genoa was a real mission.
It was successful.
1068
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,595
Sweeney was right about the MOPP suits,
1069
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,195
just wrong about
the reason they were wearing them.
1070
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,193
It was in case
the militants had biological weapons.
1071
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,835
The white phosphorus
was only laid down to mark the target.
1072
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,798
Hamni8 didn't die in the raid.
1073
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,872
His prepaid cell plan ran out.
1074
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,032
It was an institutional failure.
1075
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,636
Bullshit.
1076
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,797
We'll call the election tomorrow
and then resign.
1077
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,031
She's on her way over.
We're meeting her upstairs.
1078
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,432
I'm sorry, Will. I really am.
1079
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,472
I wanted this to go another way.
1080
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,157
We both knew it wasn't gonna.
1081
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,395
Did she seem mad?
1082
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:38,920
Hmm?
1083
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,192
When you talked to her on the phone.
1084
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,476
It's after midnight.
You think we got her out of bed?
1085
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,758
You did not get me out of bed. Good night.
1086
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,997
I just paid $1,000 to see Skyfall
1087
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,515
and attend a party
at the Museum of Modern Art.
1088
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,160
The proceeds are going
to the Tribeca Film Festival.
1089
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:55,913
- You know why?
- To support the arts?
1090
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,640
- To meet Daniel Craig.
- Did you?
1091
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,592
Hurricane Sandy and the airports.
1092
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,833
- He wasn't there?
- He was not there.
1093
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,912
You look like Daniel Craig. Get up.
1094
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,357
Oh, you look less like him now.
Sit back down. And what about you?
1095
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,158
Why so glum, sugarplum?
1096
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:18,519
We're gonna resign, Leona.
It's what has to happen now.
1097
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:24,710
Elliot Hirsch, Sloan Sabbith,
Terry Smith, Dayside ACN, ACN.
1098
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,440
We understand the integrity of the news
is more important...
1099
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,195
Than one individual. That is beautiful.
1100
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,793
Not as beautiful as Daniel Craig.
1101
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,678
- Leona.
- I'd have sent my plane.
1102
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,070
- I'd have sent my plane.
- We're not fucking around.
1103
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,120
You will resign when I fire you
out of petty malice and not before.
1104
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,040
- Our trust numbers are...
- Yeah, they're bad.
1105
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,236
They're fatal.
1106
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,312
Firing Jerry was obviously
the right thing to do,
1107
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,000
but it wasn't enough
and we've known that for two months.
1108
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,112
Charlie and I have to go.
1109
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,836
- And Twiggy over here?
- It was my fault.
1110
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,073
McMac. Can I call you McMac?
Doesn't matter, I'm gonna anyway, McMac.
1111
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,155
- Your head's up your ass.
- Mrs. Lansing.
1112
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,795
Guy comes in here into my hizzy...
1113
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,997
Guy comes in here,
cooks an interview, no remorse.
1114
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,229
30 lawyers vet the story, it goes on air.
1115
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,677
You, I don't know what you'd do
to Sherlock Holmes this thing.
1116
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,760
I wouldn't be able to figure it out
and I'm the smartest person in the room.
1117
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,029
Well, I wouldn't go that...
1118
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,954
Oh, shut the fuck up,
you Daniel Craig wannabe.
1119
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,554
I don't want to be Daniel Craig.
1120
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,593
Well, you should want to be Daniel Craig.
Everybody should.
1121
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,797
Leona, are you stoned?
1122
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,997
You know, my makeup lasts a long time.
1123
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,311
- Oh, jeez.
- Mrs. Lansing.
1124
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,516
No, no, please, call me...
1125
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,158
Continue to call me Mrs. Lansing.
1126
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:38,517
- Leona...
- Guy comes into my house
1127
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,875
which I love.
1128
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:42,357
Which I bet you guys didn't know.
1129
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,877
But I love it. I love ACN.
1130
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,594
You don't make me a nickel
1131
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,791
and you cause headaches
for the divisions that do,
1132
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,314
but you make me...
1133
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,833
You make me so proud.
1134
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,550
God, guy comes in here, cooks an interview,
1135
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,400
and this ends up with...
'Cause he's unemployable
1136
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,030
he gets a $5 million settlement
and the three of you leave?
1137
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,033
Oh, I don't think so.
1138
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,954
And McMac.
1139
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,391
That's a name that's really
starting to grow on me.
1140
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,111
She doesn't have to go.
Nobody's ever heard of her.
1141
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,079
But she's gonna do the honorable thing.
1142
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,072
And what's expected of me, huh?
1143
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,439
Not to do the honorable thing?
What's expected of me?
1144
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,959
No, I do not accept your resignations.
1145
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:35,359
And Jerry Dantana's
not gonna get one fucking dollar.
1146
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,716
I got some kick-ass courtroom outfits.
1147
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,679
You have to accept our resignations
and you have to settle.
1148
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,314
He'll take it to trial and win.
1149
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,911
There was an institutional failure
and he was the only one fired.
1150
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,077
Then you'll need a good lawyer.
1151
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,318
Lee, don't accept their resignations.
1152
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,951
I already wasn't accepting
their resignations, Becca.
1153
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,671
Don't horn in on my honorable thing.
1154
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,195
God, I mean, can't a lady have...
1155
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,758
Leona, we don't have
the trust of the public anymore!
1156
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,800
Get it back!
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