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[Air conditioner humming]

[Allen Greenfield] The Secret Chiefs of the Third Order are supposed

to be ascended masters.

And the idea there is they

are human beings who have, similar to Bodhisattvas

in Eastern Philosophy,

They are at a level of enlightenment that they are

capable of going on to Buddhahood

or whatever the western equivalent of that would be.

But they choose to remain in order to be able to assist

other people in their development.

You, if I had to guess, I would guess you are being guided

by the Third Order.

♪ Hellier Theme ♪

[Greg] Allen Greenfield has been a ghost that has been

hovering over this case since the very beginning.

He's just such a big part of this case, you know?

There he is.

[Greg] We were looking into Allen Greenfield from the very start.

I had originally reached out to Allen when the Hellier stuff

had first popped off because I wanted to get his impressions

on what was going on.

I wanted to know if he thought that Terry Wriste had actually

emailed me.

And he was of the mindset that it was probably

a disinformation agent.

So now I've got all these ideas floating around in my head

from people who say we're doing a magic ritual.

I think if there's anyone we're doing a magic ritual for it would probably

be Greenfield, right?

So we're getting ready to go and meet him for the first time.

And really see what he thinks about this case.

I would love to get your opinion on what you think was happening

to us in Hellier. What is still happening to us with this case.

What do you think is going on?

Speculation based on experience. And that's the way I will label this.

I think you were guided at every step of the way

and those steps are not concluded yet.

I think you are being led towards something

if I had to guess at what it was it was to access to a greater public

the very things that we've been discussing here.

I did some of the, what people who don't understand Qabalah

call numerology with it,

and the number which is a key to those people who fancy themselves

magicians, 93, shows up repeatedly and with gusto.

Along with several other suggestions that, just the name Hellier

contained, and it took me about 30 seconds,

to come up with a list which I sent to you because I felt it was very significant.

[Greg] So according to Greenfield the number 93 is what Hellier equals

out to. And to him, that seemed extremely significant.

He typically takes funny names-- he says, "funny names"--

and he runs them through the cipher.

So those can be names of weird towns, alien contactee names, things like that.

So the first thing he does is he throws "Hellier" into the cipher,

and he gets the value of 93.

Immediately that makes him perk up

because he was a Thelemite

and Thelemites, following the work of Aleister Crowley,

the number 93 is a sacred number to them.

It means "love" and "will", two things that are very important

in Crowley's system.

He says that the name Hellier equals out to like

words like "Babylon" and "Christ."

"Christ" stuck out to me immediately because David Christie is the name

of the guy who experienced the goblins.

Greenfield said "Hellier" was an extremely rich yield.

Let's talk about that for a second because that was one of my

other questions. Hellier resonated with the magical community

in a way that none of us expected.

We had no clue it would resonate with them.

We feel like they saw something in it that maybe we didn't.

And a lot of them have come to us and said, sometimes in so many words

"you guys realize you're doing an initiation, right?"

"you realize you're doing some kind of a ritual?"

As a magician, is that something that you see happening?

And if that's the case, who do you think could be doing that?

And to what purpose?

If it is a ritual of some kind, should we stop?

Well my opinion is you should keep going until you reach a point where you

feel that it is detrimental to your physical and emotional health,

And that of your companions.

Yeah, I had not thought of the term initiation, but I think it is

a magical process.

Again, the Campbell thing. The hero's return.

The hero goes, encounters the numinous, and

the frightful, and then returns the better being at some point.

But that might be 20 years. Or 40 years.

Or it might be an hour and a half. Or it might be tonight.

I can't predict that.

Who? Who is behind it?

Probably "what?" is a better question to ask.

And I think whatever the source of these phenomena

is or are, I'm not sure if it's multiple or singular,

it's designed I think to bring people who are involved in it

to a higher level of understanding of the nature of reality.

You mentioned earlier,

you were initially hesitant to say that it would have been Terry

that had contacted us.

I think even in the original emails that we exchanged,

you even said that it could be a disinformation agent of some kind.

-Mmhm -And how do you feel about that now?

I'm more inclined to think that it is the guy that calls himself Terry R. Wriste

and the reason that I'm inclined to think that is because I tend to associate

productive, path-initiating phenomena

with authenticity. And what Terry had to say to me,

and hopefully what I said to him, was as authentic as it gets.

-Do you think Terry is still kicking? Do you think he is still around?

- He should be. He would be... 75.

I would say he's almost certainly still around. And when you got

that letter, I'm reasonably sure he was still around.

I haven't heard from him in years.

- Do you think there is a way we could contact him?

You look into that in an episode

and ask him to get in contact with you.

But you better talk to me off camera about having like a codeword or something.

Because otherwise everybody and their cousin who is a trickster...

I mean, Gray and Jim have gone on to that great saucer in the sky,

but there are other tricksters out there waiting.

And you want to distinguish Terry from somebody else.

He might even tell you his name.

I don't know, because I haven't been involved in some of the "sports"

that we were involved in way back when.

[Connor] Do you have any insight into his sort of strange spelling,

his seemingly intentional misspellings? The way he writes in sort of

that broken code?

- It is significant, "hell," "ier."

Let's run that through the secret cipher of the UFOnauts.

And we'll see. If you take it as two separate words,

if it yields some different results.

That's wild guessing, and unlikely,

but "Hell" is an interesting thing because that was the first thing that I noticed.

'They're going to "Hell"..."ier."'

[Greg] Going to the underworld. Part of the Hero's Journey, right?

- Yep.

[Connor laughs]

- When we started this project we emailed both David and Terry.

And both of the email addresses bounced.

They were either deactivated, or discarded somehow.

We got nothing back. We got the "mailer daemon" that emails back.

I just... this is an impressionistic thing it's not based on anything.

I know Terry spent some time in Canada. I believe that was mentioned in

one of the interviews, wasn't it?

That he went to one of the medicine wheels?

[Connor] The big... medicine wheel? Wyoming, I thought?

- It might have been, I don't know

but I know it was at a summer or winter solstice.

And we're about to hit a summer solstice.

[Connor] Yeah. He was doing a Sirius ritual... something something.

- Yeah, well, he was very into that. But so am I really.

But it's just not something that I obsess on, because I don't think

Sirius, is a, well he said it himself... it's a blue star.

That means it's a hot, relatively new star.

So it's unlikely, even if you accept extraterrestrial notions,

it's unlikely to be a home base.

- Well one of the interesting things about that email address is that

David's is still inactive but Terry's was reactivated.

- Same account? - Same account.

- It sounds like him. It sounds like his M.O.

And also, and this is again guessing,

I think he wants to meet you.

On his terms, in his time.

He's probably gonna... you're gonna be led to this

or that location and he's going to be there.

Whether he will play games with you or not I don't know.

Games would be... he pumps the gas into your car.

And he's wearing an out of date Sinclair uniform, or something.

That's his type of thing.

[Connor] this is the unedited, true coordinates.

And this is a more deciphered version if that helps.

And those are the numbers.

[Greg] Does the number 31 hold any significance to you?

- Of course it does.

I edited Frater Achad's "Liber 31." The only authorized edition

of it ever published.

[Greg] What do you think of the significance of having a "31" on

this? I mean it's huge.

- I think he's trying to convey knowledge of

magical ritual, or it's trying to display knowledge

of magical ritual.

Or knowledge of me, or knowledge of Frater Achad,

who was Canadian.

31 is a number also that has the kind of magical significance

that, it's like 93. It's one of those numbers that

shows up in magical patterns, mostly in Thelemic circles.

It has to do with 777... 31... Liber 31, it was a book...

Terry was a numbers cruncher.

And also a much more technically adroit person than I am.

I mean, I can turn on a computer. And as long as it works, I'm fine.

He was familiar with what would come to be called hacking.

Very familiar.

[Connor] So these numbers, right, were sort of something that had

crossed Greg's mind I'm sure thousands of times now

as we've gone through over the last 6 or 7 years.

One of the other things I did before I tell you the other search

is you break down the numbers,

no matter what quadrant you split the numbers into

they all become either 3 or 9. - 93.

- Which is... interesting [Greenfield] - Hellier.

You are adding to the credential.

You are still set on a path, and there's got to be some reasoning

involved because there is this type of lineal stuff.

It takes a pretty good amount of trouble to concoct something.

Well it looks like there's a sophisticated construct

built on stuff that I would understand,

apparently you understood it. But, I mean

do you know that 93 is a significant number to Thelemites?

Which I'm not, anymore, but

[Greg] Back then I wouldn't have, absolutely not.

I mean that's what's always confused me. Is this idea that

these dumb kids with a dumb website, "Ghost Hunters Incorporated"

or me in particular. Like, I was a ghost hunter.

At the time that this stuff arrived I had no context for any of this stuff.

I do now.

I've learned stuff now in the last two years in particular

that I never would have known.

I'd never have any impetus to figure out.

- Well there's a jargon in Thelemic circles

that, you would have to be in those circles.

Because nobody writes books about those circles.

Those are immediately recognizable to me, I always thought

that it was a little goofy to do that.

You know? It's like, Thelemites will great each other with "93."

[mimics] "93," "93" "love and will"

both add to 93 in some kind of qabalah, not English qabalah.

- Is there something that you think we should take a closer look at?

Because, again, we didn't really find anything significant.

I mean, maybe they're not GPS coordinates, but...

- No, my guess is it's not GPS coordinates, my guess

is that it's a code.

And I'm not a codebreaker, notwithstanding what I've

written on. And I'm perfectly willing to take the number

and look. I don't even think the S-L-U-F is the pejorative

term because there was another pejorative term

that is similar to that, that was actually very commonly used

Vietnam era. I speak from direct knowledge.

- So one of the things that you talk about in Secret Cipher

is Terry discusses meeting Indrid Cold.

He said that he used the cipher to find clues.

To find out where Indrid was living at the time.

And he described him.

Do you know the name of the town where that happened?

Because I know he didn't want to talk about it...

- I'm going to embarrass myself here.

I was told, I don't remember.

I do remember that it was on the, on the Ohio river.

Further South than the, for lack of a better term, mothman area,

south of Point Pleasant.

But I don't remember the name of the town. It was a little town.

[Greg] The name of the town was Ashland.

Does that sound familiar? - Yes.

- Can you show me on a map? I mean I wouldn't swear by it because...

[Karl] Do you know or remember the general kind of timeframe

that Terry might have been pursuing these

mothman connections in cipher 6?

It would have to be after the encounter with the guy

that wrote that kind of crazy book. [laughs]

[Karl] but when you talked to him in what '94 or whatever, you

didn't get the impression that it was super recent to that?

Or particularly long before that? - Oh no, no.

I had the impression that it was

long before that. Long before I had any

involvement with Terry.

Probably in the late 60's, early 70's.

That's a guess, I didn't ask.

Again, getting him to sit down for a couple of interviews

was major coup. Because he was not the interview type.

I didn't want to put words in Greenfield's mouth.

But for him to say the late 60's or early 70's,

Definitely seemed to match. The 60's doesn't really make too much

sense, the mothman story was still happening, Vietnam was

still happening, but the 70's pegs everything.

Woody Derenberger's book came out in '71,

The Mothman Prophecies came out in '75.

Cipher 6 was broken by the occult community in 1974, allowing them

to apply the secret cipher of the UFOnauts that Greenfield

theorizes about. And the Wagon Wheel Restaurant was open from '74 to '78.

So for Greenfield to say the '70's, that's very specifically the window that we

were looking at with Terry.

[Greg[ What would you say to someone who said, "well it's obvious:

Allen Greenfield is Terry Wriste."?

- No, that's nonsense.

Part of the... that got a lot of publicity because

of the name, at the very beginning.

But I mean people around here knew him. I can refer you to -

well I don't know if they'd talk to you because they're all political

people, most of them no longer active in that kind of

circle and caring to do that. But it wasn't like I knew him

privately away from these other people, it was a whole affinity group

that he was known by.

And if he were me, then he lived a much more adventurous life

than I've lived. [laughs]

[Greg] I went into that interview thinking that Allen Greenfield

could very well be Terry Wriste.

I did not feel that way when we left. I just didn't see it.

Going into the meeting I was half convinced that we were about

to meet Terry Wriste.

That it's an individual Greenfield created himself, and sort of pretended

to have an interview with himself in the back of his book,

so that he could get out some information more about his footwork

that he has been doing.

But after the interview, and after we had done research

on things like Ashland,

it's pretty clear to me that Terry is a separate individual.

Greenfield pointed something out.

That brought us back to some of the information that Terry was talking about.

Where's he's saying that he believes that this case is being guided

by the Secret Chiefs of the Third Order.

The Third Order is supposed to be totally benevolent and like that

although they can be pretty severe. You, if I had to guess,

I would guess you're being guided by the Third Order.

It's a term out of the AA / Golden Dawn universe.

[Connor] Given what you know of the Third Order, if that hypothesis, which I

think is interesting... it hadn't really directly crossed my mind, what would

the motivation of the Third Order be in guiding us on documenting this case?

- To have a series of initiations.

And an initiation is the following:

it is the creation of a crisis, and the resolution of a crisis,

and the assimilation of that crisis resolution dialectic.

What I think very strongly is that if you continue to do what you're doing,

things will fall in your path.

[Greg] One of the biggest goals I think of this season is trying to contact

extraterrestrials, or ultraterrestrials for a better term,

would you recommend it? Is that a wise thing to try and attempt?

- You seem to have a freak-out level that's just over the horizon.

and nothing can freak you out more than that kind of

contact because it's never what you expect.

[Sound of VCR starting up]

[Greg] About six years ago I got this idea.

Whether it's a good idea or a bad idea you can tell me.

That we might be able to instigate an alien abduction.

It worked in an interesting way.

I've felt now for the last few years that there's a nonphysical aspect

to abduction experiences.

Is that something that you think would be accurate?

- Oh yeah.

I think that there's a place that people go, that their body can still be here

but on some other place on some other plane, they're going through

something.

They're meeting somebody they're having some sort of an experience

that is just as real as anything that is in this room.

So we thought, what if we do the reverse of a regression session.

What if we instead put this idea in someone's head

via hypnotism

that they're going to go somewhere and meet someone.

And see what happens.

We did that. There were no leading phrases other than

"there's a light in the sky, it's in a form you've never seen exist before,

and you know that you're going to be taken on that light."

It was one of the scariest things I've ever seen.

I watched this guy, sit there, friend of mine. Wasn't supposed to be the guy

who was supposed to go, it just happened to be him,

and he just went somewhere else and recounted this entire experience.

[Jason] and now all of a sudden... I expected Nick to get picked

honestly, and now... [Lonnie] why do you feel nervous?

- I don't know. My mind... I feel I don't know. Vulnerable.

[Dana] Yeah, I know I totally understand that.

[Jason] vulnerable. That's what it was.

[Lonnie] you are absolutely in control of yourself throughout

this entire process.

I cannot control you.

Any suggestion that is given, you may freely reject.

I wouldn't give you a suggestion that I wouldn't find helpful

or meaningful for the process.

- Ok. [Lonnie} Ok.

Are you willing to go? - Yeah.

-Outstanding.

It's good to have you. -Thanks!

Look at your hand.

Look at a spot on your hand. Look at the lines on your hand.

As your hand draws nearer and

nearer to your face, go ahead and focus on your eyes and as you

focus on your eyes, allow your eyes to close.

And as you close your eyes, close your eyes.

Let your head sink forward.

And drift. You can ignore the environment around,

as you go ahead and drift and relax.

Relax in spite of all of the environment.

Focus on my voice and only my voice.

As you allow yourself to relax.

Imagine you see some strange lights on the horizon.

Lights that you can't identify as a plane or helicopter.

Or anything that you've ever seen before.

In a pattern in which you didn't think was possible to fly.

How many lights are there?

[Jason] Four.

- Notice those lights coming closer and closer.

That light comes closer and closer to the group.

You know something is about to happen.

Something that you may not have even thought possible before.

But it becomes clear that this group is going to be taken.

Could you describe what happens?

- We're just... the doors. There's like a door.

There's like a light coming out from the inside of it.

[Stammering] I don't want to go in, but...

everybody else is going.

It's really bright? Um.

I... I don't. I feel like I should be telling people we shouldn't do this

but nobody is listening.

The light is almost blinding... like it's hurting my eyes.

And I can't really see anything... I know that there's metal below but

I don't... wa... like I don't want to go forward but nobody is stopping.

- Is it still just you in the group or are there other things there?

- No it's just the group. We're in a single file.

And we're just walking.

Down this hallway. And like I said there's nothing... it's very bright.

we're just, single file, walking.

- Do you feel compelled to move forward or is someone guiding you?

- I don't... I feel like I have to move forward I don't want to.

I want to go back outside.

- Do you feel like you can turn around?

Try to turn around now. What happens?

- I can't. - You can't.

Do you feel safe?

- I don't know. Like I don't know what's happening.

- Jason I'm going to grab your arm. And hold it up.

I'll be grabbing you at the wrist. So just relax.

I'm grabbing you now.

Put the arm up here and leave it there.

Allow that arm to drop only as slowly or as quickly as time passes on that ship.

As those memories assimilate into your mind.

Of what that group has experienced.

And as time passes by your arm will slowly or quickly sink to your lap.

As you acquire whatever experience that is.

You'll be able to relate that experience back to us.

Very good.

Now the group is back in that same place outside.

A little unrattled. Take a look at your watch.

Or your phone, or whatever time it is. What day is it?

- Sunday.

- And what day do you remember going there?

- Thursday?

- Is it still nighttime? Or daytime?

- It's daytime.

- Take a look at your group, is everyone there?

- There's a girl missing.

- Do you know the girl?

- No.

- Does anyone else realize that someone is missing?

- No.

Everybody seems really confused.

Confused. I don't... really remember a lot and my head feels weird.

- Your head feels weird? That's because there is a wall that may have been built.

We can take a peek behind that wall if you'd like to see.

- Is it safe?

- It's safe.

- I guess so.

- What's behind the wall, Jason?

- It's more of that hallway.

- More of that hallway? Could we fast forward to

something more specific?

- There's a lot of conveyor belts and we're just standing on them.

And we're being moved around like cattle.

-Are you seeing anything yet? Anything other than your fellow group members?

- There are a lot of machines in this room.

But nothing I recognize.

There's some... I think there's somebody behind

It's like a shallow... like a thin wall.

It's lit up but all I can see is shadows.

And they're... they're moving around but I can't see any- what they are or who

they are.

- At any point in any of these memories can you see

who they are?

- Yes

- What do they look like?

- They're very pale.

They look sickly.

But they don't seem... they're not acting sick?

They're very quick moving. Very fluid.

Um

Kind of like when an octopus moves it's tentacles the motion is very much the same

I don't think they have bones.

- Have they done anything to anyone in the group?

- Yeah, uh there are people on tables but I don't... I can't... they've got

I can see people's faces but I can't see what they're doing to their bodies.

I'm worried they're going to come to me. I don't want this to happen.

- Jason. "Grandpa."

On the count of five I'll have you open your eyes and reorient to the room.

One

We're starting to notice our limbs a little bit more.

Two

Knowing that anything that happens, you can handle it.

It's just a matter of perspective.

Three

You're feeling free, and grateful that you've had this experience.

Four

Knowing that it was nice to experience Grandpa, right?

And five

Welcome back.

[sniffs]

How do you feel?

[Greg] We interviewed him beforehand, he did not

believe in extraterrestrials, he didn't believe in any of that

type of stuff.

We interviewed him years later, not only does he not remember

the experience, but he's developed an intense fear of extraterrestrials

and absolutely believes that they exist.

[Greenfield] I'm sure you've thought of "maybe he actually already had

an experience?" - Yeah, I mean that has gone

through my head too.

What do you think of that as an experiment?

Do you think that there's... so say he was not an experiencer previously.

What do you think happened to him?

- Well, there are two fundamental possibilities.

If it was not a physical experience,

then that tends to add credence to the notion that these experiences

can be induced

by a perfectly ordinary, sinister,

insensitive, cruel human being into another.

Am I giving you the impression that I think this is unethical?

-Yeah, yeah. -Yeah, I think it is.

The other, the other possibility is you tuned him in.

Either of those could be true. Both of them cannot be true.

You would have to have something within the experience that would validate

one or the another. Like a word.

[mimicking a session] "I want you to obtain a word for me."

"They can't speak."

"But you can imagine a word that..." Do you follow me?

And then you run it through code again, you know?

[Greg] That is kind of the idea that our heads are in now.

Is to try that again, but with something like that.

To bring something back that can validate the experience.

That's something that I think we're all interested in trying and seeing.

Do you think that is a smart idea?

- I think it's a useful idea.

Yeah you need one validating element at least.

That tells you this is an objectively real experience

that he is experiencing subjectively here and now.

- Do you have anything to say to the larger Hellier audience?

Is there anything that you wanted to get out there?

- Don't try this at home.

And then after the interview we got around to talking about

the balloons.

When Strand went to the coordinates

and didn't find anything there, the only thing that was in the spot was

this old "Happy Birthday" balloon.

And it was significant enough that Strand put it in his backpack

to take it with him.

And we just thought "well that's weird."

A year from that date, a friend of mine

who I haven't seen in years and years and years and years

we're at a bar in California.

I'm sitting there talking to him and I tell him about... he's like "what

did you guys find at the coordinates? You went to the coordinates right?

What did you find?

And I said "well it's weird the only thing that we found at the coordinates

was a deflated Happy Birthday balloon.

And the dude started to shake. And he was like "oh my God" he's like no no no no

and he pulls his phone out and he shows me this video.

♪ pulsating beats ♪

[Greg] He finds, he's walking, hiking through this forested area, this hill,

and this silver balloon floats down to him.

No idea where it comes from, happens on the exact same date,

and he's like "I was supposed to tell you that."

"Something happened. I'm supposed to tell you something."

"What that is, I don't know."

Alex was convinced, he's like there's something weird about this

he's like "you don't even understand" and he flips to his notebook and he shows

me "Ask Greg and Dana about balloon."

"Significance of balloon?"

And he's like "man, I think I was supposed to show this to you."

"This is a sign. You're supposed to take these balloons seriously."

- Oh, I give you the message again.

You're being guided.

There may be nothing more to it. It may be somebody's birthday,

that's significant.

- Running the numbers later, I had told Greenfield that

the balloons happened on the same exact date. I was like a day or two off.

But this particular part of February was starting to show a pattern.

That was shaping up over a span of years.

This patch of dates in February seemed important, because

the Wriste emails came in, in this time period.

The Amy emails came in in this time period.

And both of the balloons showed up during this time period.

I mean, you're following a trail in the woods because there are marks on trees.

Funny marks on trees.

Where it's leading, to a pot of gold, or to a -

[Greg] A grizzly death?

[laughs] - yes, a grizzly death.

that was not what I was thinking. [Greg laughs]

Or a nuclear power plant, or a subterranean tunnel where

aliens and humans are interacting and interacting in a very familiar pattern

or... you don't know! But if you don't follow the path,

if you ask "who chipped away at these trees?"

you're missing the point. The point has got to be that the path leads somewhere.

[Greenfield] This is a gift to you.

You're on the path, because if you weren't you wouldn't have these two,

this synchronicity. Every synchronicitytells you you're on the path.

If the synchronicities stop, or if they become vague, then you're off the path.

[Greg] On the way back from Atlanta, I realized that Somerset

was only like half an hour out of the way.

On our drive back to Cincinnati.

So I suggested, if the idea is we're going to go there anyway, let's just go

I'll show Karl and Connor the sights.

I'll show them where Strand and I had scoped out.

So we're driving down one of these back roads. Middle of nowhere.

One lane dirt road.

There's really nowhere to go or turn around on these roads.

And we have to stop.

Because there's literally a tree

laying over the road. We can't go anywhere.

[Connor] And the way that it crossed the road so perfectly,

and just covered the road felt so intentional

to get our car to stop.

So Connor and I get out of the van.

And we walk over to see if we can move this tree.

And as we are looking at this tree, we see a glinting

at the base. And I said

"don't tell me that's what I think it is."

It literally stopped us in our tracks

to find a balloon.

[Karl] goddamn it. - What are the chances?

[distant howl]

[Karl] What is that?

[car keys jingle]

[Karl] Get out of here, man.

[Karl] Were you hearing shit? [Greg] Did you not hear that?

- Well we turned the car off. Was it musical?

[Connor] It sounded musical. Or was it a cow?

- It was like a howl.

[Karl] Did you guys notice...

- How did this become a thing? - I don't know.

[Karl] After Greenfield wouldn't shut up about it?

[Greenfield] What I think very strongly is that if you continue to do

what you're doing, things will fall in your path.

You didn't seem to be really impressed by the two fucking balloons!

And I'm really, really, that's like ding ding ding [alarm bell sounds]

everything with that because this is a gift.

What do you get with the balloon? You get a present.

A present. And the two balloons, is a present.

It's saying, same day, something about this day is a birthday present

to you, don't throw it away.

[Connor] It's a balloon!

[Karl] Of all the things for Greenfield to focus on.

[Greg] I know.

[Connor] Greenfield brought that up on his own like four times.

[Greg] "How do you not think that's a bigger deal?"

[Connor] "Why don't you think the balloon is a big deal?"

"Seems like a pretty significant sign."

- Something blocked our path to show us a balloon.

To make us pay attention to a balloon.

I mean, what's the context of finding it on a blocked path?

[Connor] It's a star. - It's a star?

- Yeah. [Karl] This is blue star?

-Blue Star!

Well, Happy Birthday.

♪ Opera in the Whale By Before the Bulb ♪