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Next on "ghost nation"...
It felt like something had grabbed me by the ankles
and pulled my feet out from under me.
Our son and his wife moved into the guest house.
The scariest experience was watching the nanny cam.
I immediately was freaked out by it.
This place is just popping.
- I feel threatened. - I heard a male voice.
And I don't know that we are safe.
We are not alone here.
There is something else in this house.
Make some sort of a noise.
Let us know you're here with us.
I'm right beside you.
We are a community of searchers.
This family is under attack.
We are...
..."ghost nation."
welcome to hell.
Hell, michigan, that is.
Hell is just 15 miles northwest of ann arbor
and has a population of about 70 people.
It's rumored that the man who helped settle the town
in the 1800s said,
"you can call it hell for all I care."
so they did.
Screams? Perfect.
How the hell are you today?
you know, jay, we have been in some scary places before,
but we've never been to hell.
I like the dichotomy that they have an ice cream counter.
You know, like they're serving ice cream in hell.
Right. I love it.
It's actually pretty good.
Come on. We got to go meet mike.
Let's go.
I love checking out little places like this.
I know.
We're here to meet up with paranormal investigator
mike priest.
That's right. We're meeting a priest in hell.
Mike has been an investigator in the ghost nation
for over 10 years,
and he's brought us a piece of evidence
that's gone viral, making international headlines.
- Hey, mike. - Mike, good to see you, man.
- Good to see you, buddy. - So what's going on?
We have had a relationship with the higgins family
for going on, you know, 7, 8 years.
The story we've heard from them
was that the former homeowner slipped, fell and broke her hip.
Apparently, she laid on the floor for quite some time
before eventually passing away in the house.
- Mm. - Okay.
We've investigated this house a handful of times,
caught some interesting evidence while we were out there.
Recently, the son and daughter-in-law
moved in, like, a guest house.
They caught the video of something moving across the room
from right to left on the screen.
- Mm-hmm. - And...
When you say something, you mean...
Something that we couldn't quite make out.
So this is the actual video footage
that they captured with their nanny cam.
Whoa, look at that.
That visual is pretty interesting.
Yeah, it's definitely interesting.
Can you play it again? Yeah.
You can see something that kind of walks across the screen
and it just disappears.
The child seems to see the person at one point,
then is looking all around,
almost as if trying to figure out where it went after that.
The baby definitely reacts to it.
Wow.
We fear that this family could be in danger.
Okay.
They know that our resources are limited.
The fact that there's a child involved,
this is an emergency.
Can you take us to meet the homeowners?
Absolutely.
- Let's do it. - Let's go.
Seems like a nice little town...
- It is beautiful. - ...Like, little town vibe.
You and I spoke at the ypsilanti place
a bunch of times out this way.
And that was for speaking? Yeah.
You were called getting on stage.
I know. That's crazy.
I can't believe that guy did that.
Oh, my god.
In front of 1,500, 1,600 people.
Oh, that's horrible, man. And he wound me up.
He goes, "jason hawes a- a-a-a-nd!"
I didn't know that part.
Yeah. He wound me up.
- Oh, that's funny. - That's awesome.
Oh, my god.
Take your next right up there.
Mike says he's been investigating this property
for nearly eight years.
But now a terrifying video recorded in the baby's room
has gone viral and has panic racing through the household.
thanks for having us out.
We've heard a lot of reports of things
that have been going on here.
Just wanted to come out and check for ourselves, really.
There's been a lot of different things that have happened
that I can't explain that's been very upsetting.
we purchased this home
because there was two homes
available on the property.
We wanted the extra house as a guest house.
Shortly after we moved in,
I would say within a month or two,
I noticed some strange things happening.
There was a mist-type figure from the kitchen
through my dining room.
I've seen it a couple hundred times,
the same path, the same motion.
I thought maybe
it was the original owner of the home.
Dorothy had owned the home.
We were told that she had fallen
down a set of stairs here,
had broken her hip and had, you know, laid on the floor,
and nobody found her, and she had passed away.
Most activity has been concentrated
in the hallway area.
there would be heavy footsteps,
voices waking me up in the middle of the night.
I could never quite hear what they were saying,
but I could hear them talking.
It's unnerving.
I feel threatened.
and then things started to escalate.
The steps from the dining room into the living room...
I was barefooted on a hardwood floor,
and it felt like something had grabbed me by the ankles.
I think it was dorothy.
She pulled my feet out from under me.
I fell down the steps
and thought I actually broke my back.
"oh, my gosh, just like dorothy,
it's the same thing that's happening to me."
That was all in the main house,
and we never thought
the guest house was haunted, too.
Our son and his wife moved into the guest house.
Josh and I moved into the guest house
behind josh's parents' house with our daughter, lily.
And shortly after we had moved upstairs,
I started hearing voices.
I was taking a shower, and it sounded like someone
was running up and down the steps,
and I peeked out the bathroom door...
...And there was no one there.
The previous owner, dorothy, has a brother,
and his name was timothy,
and we were told that he lived in the guest house,
and that he committed suicide
by jumping out the second-story window.
The next thing that happened was...
The choking incident.
I woke up, and I felt like something
had its hands around my throat.
Something was telling me that it didn't want me here,
and it was willing to take my life by suffocating me.
the scariest experience in our house
was watching the nanny cam live
when we captured the spirit.
You can see whatever it is move
from the right side of the room
to the left side of the room.
I immediately was freaked out by it,
and you see lily looking around
like she had heard something or felt something.
Seeing that video, I thought to myself that,
"we are not alone here.
There is something else in this house."
I'm scared for my family and I want to get them to safety.
we have things going on for 11 years,
and if there is a presence here in our home,
I'd want reassurance that whatever it is,
it's not going to hurt our granddaughter.
We're gonna do everything we can
to try to find some answers
and get to the bottom of what's going on here.
That is so much appreciated.
the higgins family is vacating their two houses
while we conduct our investigation.
here, dude.
We're assembling a monitoring station in the yard...
There's a camera set up for you, too.
...Where we'll be able to review cameras
that we're rigging...
Alright. That's actually good right there.
...In the main house and the guest house.
I could see the entire floor.
And the video is what made us grab on to the case
because we knew that video was really scary.
But I do feel like there is some other intriguing things
happening here.
Mm-hmm.
So dorothy supposedly passed away in the main house...
Mm-hmm.
...And tim, supposedly, in the guest house.
Right.
There's a lot of ground to cover.
Tango and local investigator mike will monitor cameras,
while jason and I investigate the stairs where kris believes
she was tripped by the former homeowner, dorothy,
who died tragically at the same spot.
so she claims that she was walking down like this.
Is there a way she could've tripped herself?
I don't know.
So, dorothy, somebody said you laid there
for hours before dying.
did you cause kris to fall
so she would suffer like you did?
dorothy, if you're here,
give us a good stomp on the floor.
you just hear that?
Sounded like somebody running upstairs.
We're investigating a home in michigan,
trying to trace the source of an apparition
caught on the family's nanny cam,
which is terrifying the higgins family.
Dorothy, if you're here,
give us a good stomp on the floor.
you just hear that?
Sounded like somebody running upstairs.
Like..."boom, boom, boom."
like an animal. Boom, boom, boom.
Is there an animal in the chimney?
yeah, it's all closed off here.
Dorothy, was that you?
The footsteps we heard
sound like they're coming from above us.
We're sending tango and local investigator mike priest
to check out the attic.
my least favorite closet in the world.
Alright. Be careful.
yeah. You can definitely see
there's been some animals up here.
We think the noises we heard
were likely animals in the attic.
Hey, tango.
Why don't you try going upstairs in the guest house
where they caught that video evidence,
and mike can join us on the monitors.
Copy that.
We're turning our attention to the guest house
where we were told dorothy's brother tim committed suicide.
I'm wondering if it's his spirit captured on the nanny cam.
tim?
We heard you took your own life.
Is that true?
there's a little baby here named lily.
lily's parents are a little concerned.
they just want to know if you're here to cause
any harm...To their baby.
of course, the shower.
There's gonna be a knife waiting for me.
I swear to god if someone is hiding in there...
oh, great.
Okay.
I'm physically not seeing or hearing anything in front of me,
but we have cameras running, audio running.
So I'm gonna leave now and hope for the best
with our cameras and our audio.
It's day 2
of our investigation of the higgins house.
The family believes their home is haunted by dorothy,
who broke her hip falling down the stairs
and laid there suffering for hours
before succumbing to death, and by her brother tim,
who jumped out the guest-house window to his death.
Tango is at the town library
to dig up more of the history of the family.
Meanwhile, steve and I are heading into the guest house
in an attempt to find another explanation
of the ghostly image captured on the baby monitor.
Right where I am is right where they saw that image.
steve, make sure that bathroom light is off.
Bathroom light off.
The footage was recorded around the same time of day.
Perhaps the ghostly image was a shadow from outside.
See if we go here.
Before we can consider any evidence to be paranormal...
This is pretty dead-on.
...We need to make sure it wasn't caused
by some unintentional camera trick.
Yeah, that's the exact spot.
Alright, steve.
Walk the walk.
I probably look very much like a solid person, right?
Yeah, it's obvious, steve.
No, I could tell it's you.
Despite multiple attempts and techniques,
we were unable to debunk
the apparition captured on the nanny cam.
We need to find out if this is tim's spirit
or somebody entirely different haunting the guest house.
I'm looking through documents
to see what I could find out
about former homeowner dorothy and her family.
oh.
oh, here's dave.
Hey, what's up, man?
Hey, jay. How's it going, guys?
Just going through evidence.
I found some interesting information about our dorothy.
I went through the death records to the last name,
to the living relatives, and there is a living relative.
It's dorothy's great-niece named lauren,
and I have her address,
and I could text that over to you guys.
Oh, sweet. Okay.
Now in the death records,
did it say how dorothy passed away?
Yes, it did.
It was complications of the heart.
She had heart failure for three years.
Dorothy didn't die of an accident on the steps after all.
She had a heart disease.
Anybody else in the family?
Dorothy's brother robert, but it doesn't specify where he died.
Robert?
That's a new brother we didn't know about.
Alright. So text us the address.
Steve and I will go see what we can find out, man.
Alright. Thanks. Good luck.
Later, bro.
Let's go. Alright.
Tango's info is turning everything upside down.
We thought dorothy died stranded at the bottom of the stairs,
but now, tango is saying heart failure.
And then there's her brother robert
we've never even heard of.
But we need to uncover the real story of dorothy
and her brother tim.
Hopefully lauren, her relative,
can provide some much-needed answers.
We've been talking with kris and jim higgins,
who own the house now.
Anything you could tell us about the property,
maybe, before they lived there?
Actually, my dad's grandpa, he built it,
so it was only my family that lived there
up until the people who live there now.
So the higgins family are the first family
to own it outside of your family?
Yes.
What can you tell us about your great-aunt dorothy
who lived in the house?
She passed away when I was...
I think I was around, like, 7 or 8.
Because we had heard stories
that she had fallen on the stairway there,
broken her hip and laid there for hours and passed away.
No. No.
She passed away in her bed in her bedroom.
Oh, wow.
How old was she, approximately, 60s?
No, she was in her 70s.
Okay, in her 70s.
And where was her room? Was her room on the first floor?
There was the kitchen... Yeah.
...And then you walk down the hall,
and then her room was on the left.
So dorothy died in her bed,
which was right next to the hallway where kris says
she's seen a mist-type figure hundreds of times.
she was a school-bus driver.
She was really ornery.
She didn't actually like kids.
I think most bus drivers don't like kids.
Yeah. It seems that way.
She was really into her house and how things were kept.
Okay, she didn't like people
changing anything around in the house then?
No.
Now, we also heard her brother tim...
No, that was her son.
Oh, okay. Alright. We had heard it was her brother.
We had heard that tim
had fallen from the guest-house window
and died there outside.
That's not how he pas-- he had diabetes.
Okay.
So he passed away from diabetes.
Did he pass away at the home?
No, he didn't pass away at the home.
He passed away at the u of m hospital.
Oh. Okay.
So then all the rumors of him
falling out a window and dying are not true.
No.
Now, lauren, is there anything you could tell us about robert?
That was aunt dorothy's brother.
They got along really well.
He was a really nice guy. He was super sweet.
So he was dorothy's brother, and tim was her son.
Yeah. Alright.
So it's all starting to come together now.
Well, if we have any more questions,
hopefully you're okay if we come back and ask.
Yeah, of course. Alright.
Well, thank you very much for your time.
Thank you so much.
We now have new, accurate information about dorothy,
her son tim and brother robert.
Lauren also told us that robert grew up
with dorothy in this house,
so we're going to try completely different tactics
with our investigation tonight.
So knowing that dorothy actually died in her bedroom
and not here... She was sick.
She died of heart disease, and that happens.
You're also taking away the fact
that tim fell out a window and died a tragic death.
Nope. No, he didn't.
He died about an hour from here
due to issues with diabetes.
I mean, it could be...
you heard that one. I heard that.
dorothy, was that you?
Can you tell we're talking about you?
did sound like right after that.
Almost sounds like footsteps.
Kind of sounded like
something being dragged across the floor.
you heard that, right?
Dorothy, are you mad we're in your house?
We talked to lauren today, your great-niece.
She said sometimes it upset you
when people we're in your house.
that sounded like something in that room.
That's dorothy's bedroom.
We're investigating a home believed to be haunted
by the previous owner, dorothy,
and whom we were told was her brother tim,
both apparently died tragically on the property,
but we found out the facts are all wrong.
We learned tim was her son,
and her brother was named robert.
He was dorothy's brother, and tim was her son?
Yeah.
There was now a new suspect in this paranormal mystery.
dorothy, if we come closer to you to try to talk to you,
is that okay with you?
what was that?
Do you think that's her saying, "yeah, you can
come a little closer?" alright.
Well, we'll sit at the dining room table right here.
We don't want to bother you at all.
now this is where she claimed
to see that shadow moving also.
right here.
Yeah.
If anything with mass shows up, it's gonna look just like
I do... Mm-hmm.
...In a 360-degree radius.
Dorothy, does it bother you there are
conflicting stories out there about you?
One story that really may bother you is the story
about tim, your son.
Some people were saying tim jumped out the window
of the guest house and passed away.
did you hear that?
I heard a voice. Like a "ba-da-da-da."
it sounded male. It did sound male.
It went, "ba-da-da-da."
you trying to talk to us about this story of tim?
What was that?
What is that?
Like, "boom-sha-boom-sha, boom-sha-boom-sha."
that was weird.
I'm gonna see what that is.
I'm back.
Dorothy, you've been known to be kind of abrasive with people.
Did you like children?
tim, if this is you, was it hard for you living with diabetes?
robert, if you're here, please let me know.
was that you, tim, upstairs,
walking by the baby, lily?
so here we are where dorothy actually died.
She literally passed away right here.
Dorothy, the family that's here
are a little anxious and nervous
about having something they don't understand
in their house with them.
So anything you can say or do for us
when we ask will help us to better educate this family
on what's going on here.
The higgins family has six children of their own.
Been told many times that you're really not
a fan of lots of kids.
Emf is steady. 0.3.
did you see that? It went right to a 1.8.
We're measuring fluctuations
in the magnetic field.
If the energy of a spirit is in this room,
it will force a spike in the readings.
That was a 1.8 out of nowhere.
If it's not dorothy who we're talking to,
can you let us know?
Tim, if it's you, can you stomp on the floor?
robert, if it's you, can you stomp on the floor?
what's that? A bang?
I heard a little, like, "bum, bum."
robert, if that's you, can you stomp on the floor?
there it is again, boom, right on cue.
I heard a male voice.
We split into two teams and are focusing on identifying
an entity that is tormenting
the higgins family in highland, michigan.
After learning that everything we were told
about the previous homeowner, dorothy, was wrong,
steve and I are zeroing in on her brother robert
and trying to make contact,
while tango was in the guest house
trying to reach the apparition captured on the nanny cam.
robert, if it's you, can you stomp on the floor?
I heard a male voice.
If you're a male, can you knock on the floor
on the count of three?
One, two, three.
that was a bang again.
I feel like robert might be the dominant spirit here.
And on cue.
That shows a knowledge of how to interact
with the physical world here.
That's incredible.
Tim?
Dorothy?
Robert?
If you're not Dorothy, Tim or Robert,
please tell me who you are.
oh, I knew it.
It was a ghost
or the demons of david's future.
How you guys doing? - Dave.
We just...We had some...
Weird things go on in there.
Really? Yeah, it was...
Yeah, it was pretty awesome, man.
He asked, "are you robert?" three times and each time,
we got the bang with it.
"are you Robert?" boom.
"are you a man?" boom.
"are you Dorothy?" nothing.
Now that we know the accurate information
about the previous homeowners,
we need to do a little more on the history of the property
to see if there are any other possible
causes of this haunting.
So tango is headed to the old mill museum,
a local historical society center,
to see what he can uncover.
Oh, wow.
they were called the mound builders.
Excuse me, miss?
- Hi. - Hi.
Could I have your help one second please?
Sure.
Is it possible -- could I physically see that map?
Can I touch it? Can I handle it?
Certainly. Certainly.
Thank you very much.
So to better understand the highland area,
I'm cross-referencing the museum's map
of native american trails
with the present-day map of the same region.
what's fascinating is that this extensive network
of ancient trails run right along the lake,
which is extremely close to the higgins' property.
tango is calling.
Hey, what's up, man?
Well, I got some information for you guys about the area.
It was home to some very, very old native american tribes.
They bury their dead in huge mounds.
Michigan had over 1,000 mounds.
I looked at the maps.
I compared the maps and saw the trails myself.
The burial mounds often would be
right off the trails, correct?
Correct.
And there's a very, very good chance
that the higgins house could be very near
or on top of one of these mounds.
I mean, that's pretty intense.
Great work, man. We'll talk soon.
Thank you, guys.
If the property is actually
on native american burial mound,
this opens up a whole other can of worms for us.
We're in highland, michigan,
investigating the higgins property,
where we were just thrown a major curveball on our case.
While zeroing in on robert as the culprit
because of his active responses...
I heard a male voice.
...We discovered a new set of suspects --
the mound builders.
They buried their dead in huge mounds.
With this new information making us rethink our focus,
we're expanding our investigation to include
native american spirits that may be here.
My buddy, chris, a native american historian
and member of the mohawk nation,
has spent the last 24 hours trying to find out.
Were you able to get any information stuff for us?
Yeah, a little bit.
The mounds in the area,
they date back to pre-columbian era.
The tribes that are around here,
they started using the mounds
for their own burial ceremonies.
Could've been thousands of people in one mound.
Wow. Thousands.
But then when the settlers came in,
they pushed the natives off the land.
They would take all the objects in the mounds --
bones, pottery -- and find other mounds for development.
They wanted to wipe out any kind of native history
in the area.
You know, do you think there is some unrest there still?
Without a doubt. If you dig somebody up,
disturbing thousands of spirits all at once,
it's gonna be bad.
Chris' confirmation that the sacred burial mounds near here
were desecrated is just the beginning.
Next, we're gonna take a closer look
at tango's map of native american trails in the area.
So there's a trail that runs right alongside
the higgins house right there.
In my research, I actually found a trail that's closer.
Closer? Than this?
This map of highland, michigan, shows
where the higgins house is located.
When we placed the old native american map
over the highland map,
it shows the trails that tango found,
and chris pinpoints a trail that runs even closer.
- Oh, my god. - Wow.
- That's almost in their yard. - It's almost in their yard.
Considering that this house is between these two trails
and these lakes and the thousands of native spirits
have been disturbed,
I wouldn't be surprised if you guys found it
to be connected to some sort of native-type haunting.
If the tail map is accurate,
it could mean that the higgins house
was built on top of desecrated native american burial mounds.
It's very possible that the higgins haunting
has nothing to do with dorothy's death
and everything to do with a much more sinister atrocity.
The possible connection to desecrated burial mounds
is intriguing...
Alright. Let's hit it, and let's hit it hard.
...And could explain the strange
and almost tribal beat we heard
while investigating in the main house the previous night.
What is that?
Like, "boom-sha-boom-sha, boom-sha-boom-sha."
so tango and I are heading into the house
to see if we can make contact
with one of the many native american tribes
in this area who used mounds for burials.
is there anyone here from the potawatomi tribe?
What about the ottawa tribe?
Anybody here from the saginaw tribe?
- Tango. - Hmm?
That's dorothy's bedroom where she died.
Steve and tango in dorothy's bedroom.
I mean, she died right in this very spot.
Right.
Look, we have some dream catchers here.
Whether you believe in it or not,
you know, it's capturing bad dreams
and introducing positivity, that sort of thing.
Right.
You know, but just the fact that they have it here...
Could native american ties
be influencing what's here at all?
Mm-hmm.
It's all these different avenues
just sort of weaving together to build this fabric.
Our investigation of the main house
has shown robert to be the dominant spirit.
Is it possible he is also haunting the guest house?
Could robert be the apparition captured on the nanny cam
and be behind the footsteps
heather has heard when in the shower?
We also still need answers for heather's choking experiences.
We're heading into the guest house to see
if we can solve this mystery.
Alright.
Heading into the higgins guest house.
Heather was claiming that she heard voices in here
and that she heard running up and down the stairs,
but only when she was in the shower.
move these clothes...
What is behind this?
Oh.
It's their water system.
Yeah. It's their well.
Let me go turn the shower on.
Heather might be hearing mechanical noises
that she's mistaking for voices.
I'm gonna turn the shower on.
Alright. Go ahead.
There it is.
Every so often, the well kicks on
and you'll hear a "dun, dun, dun, dun."
there was just a voice.
Steve. Yeah.
It was just a... I don't know.
It was like a voice.
In here? Behind me.
there was just a...
It was like a voice.
In here?
Behind me in the kitchen.
Was that robert?
I heard something upstairs.
I'll go see what that is.
Robert, was that you?
Are you robert?
For whatever reason, the daughter-in-law
thinks everything that's in here is a ghost,
and the only thing that sort of holds any water in here
is that footage that we can't explain.
I mean, I honestly feel like these footsteps she's hearing
while she's in the shower, it's just a coincidence.
It just has to do with the piping and the water,
or else she would hear the footsteps
when she was out here.
It wouldn't just happen when she was in the shower.
When I was downstairs looking at the well pump,
there was that
coming from behind me in the kitchen.
Honestly, I think it's gonna be more going through
the evidence to see what turns up.
Right.
Let's go listen back to that audio.
The hauntings taking place in the two houses
on the higgins' property
presented one of the most complex cases for us.
We've gone through our evidence,
which revealed some new findings to share with the family.
Thanks for having us back,
and hopefully you're happy coming back to your home.
Yes.
We did catch some interesting things.
The higgins family believe the former homeowner, dorothy,
who died in the house to be the aggressive entity
out to harm them...
She pulled my feet out from under me.
...And their granddaughter.
This presence wanted to hurt our daughter.
Through our investigation,
we found no evidence to suggest this.
Dorothy actually didn't fall at the stairs and die there.
She actually died of congestive heart failure
in the bedroom.
Really?
And, you know, falling down the stairs,
there is a phenomena where because you thought
dorothy did pass away there,
and your mind is trying to make
sense of the information you already have,
that when you fell,
you could've put the feeling of hands
because you want that, even though it sounds weird,
to make the whole scenario make sense.
Got it. Okay.
So that could be what's happening.
Half of what we do
is try to help people out psychologically.
And the psychological aspect of this
does play into it big.
I know you guys thought tim had fallen out a window and died.
He did pass away, but he didn't fall out the window here.
He didn't die here.
He died of issues with diabetes about an hour away.
In fact, tim was her son,
and her actual brother was named robert.
Robert, if that's not you, let me know.
We also uncovered a native american connection
to their property.
They buried their dead in huge mounds,
and there's a very good chance that the higgins house
be very near or on top of one of these mounds.
The white man came in.
They smushed down the area and built houses.
Oh, okay.
Of course, a lot of unhappy native americans.
That something like that happened,
it's very disrespectful. Right.
We still don't see any evidence
that if that happened close to your property there,
it has anything to do with what's happening here.
Okay, good to know.
Even though our evidence
showed no connection to native americans,
it did point to dorothy's brother robert
as a dominant spirit and center of activity in both houses.
There could be something here with intelligence
because when we started talking to robert,
we were getting direct responses.
Robert, if that's you, can you stomp on the floor?
I heard a male voice.
What makes that important to us
is that it's doing what we're asking,
and it's on command,
and it's only when we're referencing robert,
which sort of leads us to believe
that could be who we are communicating with.
Okay.
And we also captured a male voice in the guest house
that we couldn't distinguish at the time.
- Steve. - Yeah?
It was just a... I don't know.
It was like a voice.
In here? Behind me.
After going through our evidence,
we believe this voice to be robert as well.
wow.
That sounds like it says, "where is timmy?"
even though we don't know the exact place robert died,
we do know he did grow up here,
and because we got responses from him and not from dorothy,
tim and native american spirits,
it leads us to believe that robert is behind the haunting
and remains spiritually attached to the home.
Robert might be the dominant spirit here.
And on cue.
That shows a knowledge of how to interact
with the physical world here.
That's incredible.
But what about the apparition
and heather's intense experiences in the guest house?
We tried to re-create the experience
that was caught on the baby monitor.
We can kind of get close to it,
but we can't 100% create it.
We do believe that you have
paranormal activity going on here.
Okay.
That image that moves by, it doesn't acknowledge the baby.
It's not aware of time and space.
It's just walking by.
So it's nothing that can hurt you.
He was a really nice guy.
He was super sweet.
I know you did have a situation
where you felt something choking you.
There is the whole thing with rem sleep
where people do feel either a weight on their chest
or that they're being choked.
And it's tough to say because we weren't there,
but if it was something that seemed to continue,
then I would be concerned.
But what we discovered, there's nothing to fear.
And if there's any more problems,
just call us and we'll come back.
We'll do whatever you need.
I appreciate you guys so much.
- Oh, well, thank you. - Thank you.
It's been a great experience and an honor
to meet you guys, honestly.
- Well, thank you. - Thank you.
Knowing dorothy did not die a torturous death
at the foot of the stairs
and tim didn't commit suicide in the guest house,
we have no reason to believe
that they would be a threatening presence targeting the family.
We hope that this new understanding of old family ties
helps the higgins family live in harmony
with the former residents who are still attached
to their childhood home and brings peace of mind
for their baby's safety in the nursery.
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