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Do you love Dad?Of course I do.
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Then why
isn't he home?He's guiding people on Everest.
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This is a sick woman.
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Who is in danger
of harming herself. She's dehydrated.
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She's bleeding. She should be
under a doctor's care.
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DAVID:
Anyway. That was
a long time ago.
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It was just after
my friend died.
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Julia?Yes.
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Julia?
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Crying on her knees?
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Weepy little bitch?
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Are you drinking the sangria?
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Why?
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KRISTEN:
It's spiked with psilocybin.
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Your sweatshirt.DAVID: Oh, keep it.
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I don't want you to catch a cold
on the walk home.
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ANDY:
Hey, stranger.
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Andy.
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A.
Activating Incident.
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B.
Belief System.
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C.
Consequences.
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So... what happened?
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[claps hands loudly]Sebastian, stay present.
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Let's go through this.
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A.
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Activating Incident.
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A woman rejected me.And B?
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Belief?
I'm worthless.
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C?Consequences.
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I sit in my room and surf porn.
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And that brings us to D.
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What's D?
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Destruction.
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Destroy old thinking.
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And then we can talk about
the next step.
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ANDY:
Hey, stranger.
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Andy.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my God, you look fantastic.
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When did you get in?
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Wh-Why didn't you call?
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I wanted to surprise you.
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Oh, my God, that's crazy.
I would've picked you up.
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I know that.
Oh...
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Mm.Look at this.
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Oh, yeah, I'm getting
my hermit license.
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[chuckles]You like it?
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I thought you were still
trying to summit.
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Yeah, no, the weather
wasn't improving.Oh, come on.
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This was the best November ever.Yeah, I just...
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Okay, I missed
you guys.
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And I didn't want to miss
the next doctor's appointment
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for Laura's heart.
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Oh, my God.
Where'd you get this?
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This is like a
tent on you.
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Uh, nowhere, just a co-worker.
[chuckles]Oh, really?
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Yeah.[chuckling]:
What is this?
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Uh, this is just an artist,
he painted this t-shirt for me.
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What kind of work
have you been doing?[laughing]
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[both laughing]I'm sorry. My brain is just
a little bit bubbly.
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That's okay.
You okay?
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[exhales]
Yeah.
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Where's Mom?She's, uh, she left.
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She was...
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Did you two fight?No.
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No. Actually,
we found a détente.Really?
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Yeah.Tell me more.
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I can't. Unfortunately...
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[loud chattering]
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No, no, no, no, no.
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You guys are up way past
your bedtime.
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LAURA:
Daddy said
we could stay up.
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I never said that. My God,
you guys have become such liars.
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[chattering]
All right!Okay!
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I need you all to go
upstairs right now.
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Let's go. The Tibetan
band can play tomorrow.
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[chattering continues]
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You look happier.
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It's been a weird time.
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Yeah. I heard.
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New job?
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Yeah, I guess.
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Yeah.It's exciting.
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You know how we always
talked about
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not wanting to work in an office
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or knowing exactly
what our day was gonna bring?
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Mm-hmm.
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This is that.
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Just always surprised.
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I'm glad.
Are you high?
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[chuckles]Yeah.
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Yeah.Is that part
of the work, too?
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Somebody spiked the sangria
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with some psilocybin
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without telling us.
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Us?Yeah, my co-worker.
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Ah.
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Interesting.
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Like a baby's ass.Mm,
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that's what I like.
Sexy talk.
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[giggles]
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This is what I suggest.
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I'm gonna throw you
on the bed.Oh, yeah?
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And I'm gonna
ravish you.
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Oh, really?Mm-hmm.
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Now carry me
into the bedroom.
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Oh.
You got more demanding.
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You don't know the half of it.
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[clattering in distance]
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What's wrong?
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[whispering]:
Did you hear that?What?
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Something in the hall.I didn't hear anything.
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[thump, clattering]
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I heard that.
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Wait, wait, wait
wait, wait.
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You're kidding.What?
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The girls have me paranoid
with what's been happening here.
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That's great, if there's
an ice wall, we'll be ready.Yeah.
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Shh.Shh, shh, shh, shh.
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What is it?It's nothing. It's just...
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[roar]
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I think
we're all dreaming.
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Maybe we should
call 911.
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Shh.
Stay-stay back.
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Stay back, stay back,
stay back.
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[meows]
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What's that?Oh, it's a kitty!
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It's a stray. It's a stray.
No, no, no, leave it there.
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Don't touch it, don't touch it,
it might have ticks.
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Mom, the cat's
so cute!Yeah, but
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leave her.How do you know she's a her?
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Because all cats are her.
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That's not true.Okay. Off to
bed, please.
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You literally said,
"She's a her."Off to bed.
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Off to bed.[growls]
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[all clamoring]
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You have to
feed the cat.ANDY: No.
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Go to sleep.
We will deal with this.
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All of our fish died.
We need a cat now.
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We'll talk about it.They live longer,
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nine lives.Please.
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We can't have a pet.I know we can't.
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I'll just put it in the garage
for tonight, and we'll see.
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He's not letting go of this
thing. Could you hold it?
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He just wants the sweater.
Just...
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[cat screams]
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There we go.
I got you.
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[knocking]
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David Acosta?
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Yeah?
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You've been served.
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Why?My guess is
someone's suing you.
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Have a nice day.
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Hey.Hey.
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How's your head today?
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My... Oh.
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Uh, yeah. Better.
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My husband's home.
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That's great.
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Can I...
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Oh. Yeah, sure.
Yeah, please.
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I got a subpoena this morning.
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Really?
For what?
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The Hopkins exorcism.Who's suing,
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the husband?No. Caroline.
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[screaming]
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She says the Church
botched the exorcism.
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Says we should've deferred
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to the psychologist on the scene
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and sought
medical care.
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She's suing
Father Amara,
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myself, and
the archdiocese.
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Anyway, I just wanted to make
sure we got our facts straight,
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because we disagreed
that night.
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But since...David, have you spoken
to your lawyer?
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I don't have a lawyer.The Church is gonna
get you one.
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Before you and I talk,
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you need to speak
to your lawyer.
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Did you get a subpoena?No, but I probably will,
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because they'll use my testimony
against you.
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That's why I wanted to know
how much we disagree...
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David, I'm-I'm sorry.
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Whatever we say right now,
I will be asked about.
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And they'll want to know
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if we tried to get
our stories straight.
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That'll make you look worse.
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So you need to be
able to swear
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that we didn't
get our stories straight.
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Right now, I can say
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that we talked. You asked me
if I was subpoenaed,
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and our conversation lasted
exactly five minutes.
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If this goes any further,
I'll be under oath,
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and have to admit to more.
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I understand.
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[screeching meow]
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Hello?
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Did you know you have
a bird up there?
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DAVID:
Yes.
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He doesn't want to leave.
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May I help you?
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Bishop Marx.
Your new superior.
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So, you're a
seminarian?
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I am.How many years?
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This is my third.
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Uh, two years philosophy,
one more year theology.
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There's jealousy here that
you've been given free reign.
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I don't know what that means.
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Monsignor Korecki
kept a firm hand
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on all the assessments.And yet we're being sued.
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Yes.
It's unfortunate.
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So, David.
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I've been moved here
as bishop of the diocese
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for one very
particular reason.
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Do you want to
know what it is?I do.
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You have drawn the attention
of the Holy Father.
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That is not necessarily
a good thing.
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The Vatican assessors believe
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you're doing important
work here, but...
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Oh.
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Flannery O'Connor.
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I love her.
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Yes.
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But you're being sued.
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So I should hire a lawyer?
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No.
An archdiocesan lawyer
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already volunteered
to represent you.
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[wings flutter]
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She's not a litigator,
she's a fixer.
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She's kept our abuse victim
lawsuits reasonable.
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We want her to do
the same thing here.
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David Acosta.
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Renee Harris.You two
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know each other?
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That's why I volunteered.
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So it looks like
you're in trouble.
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We should get started.
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♪
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And now I'm going to teach you
the two most magical words
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in the English language.
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As if.
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You're going to
the Fit 4 Women's gym
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and you will be
carrying this.
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What is that?A gun.
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This is a gun?Yes.
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You'll go there, you'll aim,
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you'll shoot "as if"
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you could really do it.
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But I get it
if you don't want to.
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[short chuckle]
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[door opens, closes]
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RENEE:
You look good.
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You do too.
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So, the priesthood?
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Are you surprised?That wasn't your thing.
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It wasn't your thing to be
a church lawyer either.
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My sister screwed us both up.
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She got you
to promise, too?
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On her death bed.
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"The church needs you."
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She probably told everybody
the same thing that last day.
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That's Julia for you--
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always has to have the last
word, even from the grave.
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God, I loved her.
264
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[knocking]
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Come in.
266
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Where are we?
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It's a nuisance suit.
268
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We don't want it
to go to trial.
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I'll get it kicked in depo.And David?
270
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He'll be a good witness.
271
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My worry is the psychiatrist and
the psychologist who were there,
272
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but I'll talk to them.
273
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Uh, just as a warning,
I tried to speak
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with one of them
this morning.You did?
275
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Yes, uh, Kristen Bouchard.
276
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She's on my team.
277
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She stopped me before
I could say anything.
278
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Okay, smart girl.
I'll talk to her.
279
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It'll probably be fine.
280
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How you doing?
281
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I hate depositions.Yeah.
282
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I hate law offices.
283
00:13:36,728 --> 00:13:37,860
Dr. Bouchard.
284
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Hi. It's just Kristen.
285
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You have a doctorate.
That deserves a "Dr."
286
00:13:42,473 --> 00:13:45,215
Hi. Renee Harris,
lawyer for the defense.
287
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This is Ben Shakir.
He works with us.
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Hi.As?
289
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A contractor.
290
00:13:50,264 --> 00:13:52,005
Is that a joke?
291
00:13:53,093 --> 00:13:54,659
No.
292
00:13:54,703 --> 00:13:57,706
Okay. Do you have a jacket
with that?
293
00:13:57,749 --> 00:14:00,404
With this?
Uh, yes, but not with me.
294
00:14:00,448 --> 00:14:02,232
Can someone
get it for you?Why?
295
00:14:02,276 --> 00:14:04,060
I want you to look
like a doctor.
296
00:14:04,104 --> 00:14:06,019
A jacket will make me
look like a doctor?
297
00:14:06,062 --> 00:14:07,281
Yes.
298
00:14:09,109 --> 00:14:11,111
All right, yeah.
I can make a call.Please do.
299
00:14:11,154 --> 00:14:14,070
David told me you stopped him
from pulling a Clinton,
300
00:14:14,114 --> 00:14:15,289
getting your
stories straight.
301
00:14:15,332 --> 00:14:16,899
I see you have some
familiarity with court.
302
00:14:16,943 --> 00:14:18,161
That will be helpful.
303
00:14:18,205 --> 00:14:20,120
I'm not telling you
how to testify.
304
00:14:20,163 --> 00:14:23,036
I'm just telling you
the other side is smart.
305
00:14:23,079 --> 00:14:24,602
Judith Lemonhead.
306
00:14:24,646 --> 00:14:26,909
Lemonhead?
307
00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:28,911
Yes, I know. Stupid name,
and she's angry about it,
308
00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:30,478
wants to take it out
on the world.
309
00:14:30,521 --> 00:14:33,133
She will try to get you
to elaborate on your answers.
310
00:14:33,176 --> 00:14:35,570
Don't.
Answer "yes," "no,"
311
00:14:35,613 --> 00:14:37,485
and "Can you be more specific?"
312
00:14:37,528 --> 00:14:40,053
You and David work together?Yes.
313
00:14:40,096 --> 00:14:42,098
Has he talked to you
about Julia?
314
00:14:42,142 --> 00:14:43,708
Yeah.
315
00:14:43,752 --> 00:14:45,275
I'm her sister.
316
00:14:45,319 --> 00:14:47,625
She was the
idealistic one.
317
00:14:47,669 --> 00:14:50,280
I'm the cynic, which
makes me perfect for this.
318
00:14:50,324 --> 00:14:52,108
When you want a break
in the questioning,
319
00:14:52,152 --> 00:14:54,154
put your fingers
to your nose like this,
320
00:14:54,197 --> 00:14:57,200
and I will ask for a break
because my leg hurts.
321
00:14:57,244 --> 00:14:58,985
I injured it.
322
00:15:02,205 --> 00:15:04,425
Did you injure it?
323
00:15:04,468 --> 00:15:06,775
No.
324
00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:10,431
AMARA [over recording]:
And the wicked shall perish
325
00:15:10,474 --> 00:15:13,042
in the presence of God...CAROLINE: [screams] No!
326
00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:15,001
[smack]Out! Out! Out!
327
00:15:15,044 --> 00:15:16,219
[recording stops]
328
00:15:16,263 --> 00:15:18,134
Is that you, Caroline?Yes.
329
00:15:18,178 --> 00:15:21,094
[smack]Out! Ou...
330
00:15:21,137 --> 00:15:23,661
[recording stops]And that sound--
was that a slap?
331
00:15:23,705 --> 00:15:25,141
Yes.RENEE:
Excuse me.
332
00:15:25,185 --> 00:15:26,838
Were you told
that sound was a slap
333
00:15:26,882 --> 00:15:29,276
or do you have a specific memory
that was a slap?
334
00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,713
Um...
335
00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:33,019
Let the record reflect
the witness
336
00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:34,498
just looked to her lawyer
for guidance.
337
00:15:34,542 --> 00:15:37,980
All right, let's just ask
your clients then. Did you
338
00:15:38,024 --> 00:15:39,547
slap Caroline
in that moment?
339
00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:42,463
No. Uh, Caroline was trying
to break free of her bonds.
340
00:15:42,506 --> 00:15:43,725
And why
was she bound?
341
00:15:43,768 --> 00:15:45,118
Because she was trying
to kill people.
342
00:15:45,161 --> 00:15:46,989
Then let's just listen
to this part of the tape.
343
00:15:47,033 --> 00:15:49,339
AMARA: What is your name?
In the name of God,
344
00:15:49,383 --> 00:15:51,689
I demand your name.
345
00:15:51,733 --> 00:15:53,909
CAROLINE:
Help me.
346
00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:56,085
If you want to feel bad,
go to confession,
347
00:15:56,129 --> 00:15:59,132
not here.LEMONHEAD: And after you
pled for your life, Caroline,
348
00:15:59,175 --> 00:16:01,134
did anyone do anything?CAROLINE: No.
349
00:16:01,177 --> 00:16:02,787
And after they
told you that
350
00:16:02,831 --> 00:16:04,964
the demons had been exorcised,
what happened?
351
00:16:05,007 --> 00:16:08,054
I was fine for a week,
then I fell apart.
352
00:16:08,097 --> 00:16:11,796
I... suffered delusions,
353
00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,494
paranoia, uh,
354
00:16:13,537 --> 00:16:16,149
depression.
355
00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:17,541
I wanted to die.
356
00:16:18,934 --> 00:16:21,154
I was taken
to the emergency room
357
00:16:21,197 --> 00:16:23,156
and I got some real help.
358
00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:25,158
Dr. Phillip Lynch-Giles.
359
00:16:25,201 --> 00:16:27,160
Uh, I specialize
in treating patients
360
00:16:27,203 --> 00:16:29,553
with dissociative disorders
and schizophrenia.
361
00:16:29,597 --> 00:16:32,034
And what was the physical
and mental condition
362
00:16:32,078 --> 00:16:33,905
of Caroline Hopkins
363
00:16:33,949 --> 00:16:36,778
after the... exorcism
364
00:16:36,821 --> 00:16:38,258
October 31?
365
00:16:38,301 --> 00:16:40,086
LYNCH-GILES:
Lacerations, bruising,
366
00:16:40,129 --> 00:16:42,175
suicidal ideation.
367
00:16:42,218 --> 00:16:44,394
Uh, she was malnourished,
dehydrated,
368
00:16:44,438 --> 00:16:46,266
unable to
stand or walk.
369
00:16:46,309 --> 00:16:47,745
And what was your
medical diagnosis?
370
00:16:47,789 --> 00:16:49,399
Dissociative identity disorder,
371
00:16:49,443 --> 00:16:52,011
but she was also
severely delusional,
372
00:16:52,054 --> 00:16:54,883
uh, convinced that
Satan and other demons
373
00:16:54,926 --> 00:16:56,232
were following
and attacking her.
374
00:16:56,276 --> 00:16:58,278
How are those delusions?Seriously, Renee?
375
00:16:58,321 --> 00:17:00,932
What?
Let him answer the question.
376
00:17:00,976 --> 00:17:02,325
I would
say that
377
00:17:02,369 --> 00:17:04,545
demonic forces do not exist,
378
00:17:04,588 --> 00:17:06,764
and patients often
use the crutch
379
00:17:06,808 --> 00:17:08,592
of the metaphoric
to explain and deny
380
00:17:08,636 --> 00:17:09,854
what are actually
mental disabilities.
381
00:17:09,898 --> 00:17:11,073
Which is your bias?
382
00:17:11,117 --> 00:17:13,423
Uh, no, that's
the shared understanding
383
00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:15,773
of the medical community.LEMONHEAD:
And what was
384
00:17:15,817 --> 00:17:18,037
your treatment plan
for Caroline, Doctor?
385
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,648
Chlorpromazine and aripiprazole
386
00:17:20,691 --> 00:17:22,737
in order to limit the psychosis.
387
00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:25,783
The dissociative behavior
is more difficult
388
00:17:25,827 --> 00:17:27,742
I use a...
389
00:17:27,785 --> 00:17:29,961
trauma conceptualization
exercise.
390
00:17:30,005 --> 00:17:32,834
I have the patient mentally
process what happened to them
391
00:17:32,877 --> 00:17:34,879
without disassociating
from it.
392
00:17:34,923 --> 00:17:38,796
What do you think?It's standard.
393
00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,016
Ms. Bouchard...
394
00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:44,585
Dr. Bouchard.Sure.
395
00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:47,240
You were called as
a psychologist to assess
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00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:49,677
whether Caroline was suffering
from a mental disorder.
397
00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,982
Yes.
398
00:17:51,026 --> 00:17:52,897
And what was your
professional observation?
399
00:17:52,941 --> 00:17:53,942
That she was ill.
400
00:17:53,985 --> 00:17:56,814
Uh, can you elaborate?
401
00:17:56,858 --> 00:17:59,121
That she was
mentally ill.
402
00:17:59,165 --> 00:18:01,776
Hm.I see.
403
00:18:01,819 --> 00:18:03,821
Uh, did Ms. Harris
404
00:18:03,865 --> 00:18:05,823
prep you for this testimony?
405
00:18:05,867 --> 00:18:08,130
Yes.And what did she say?
406
00:18:08,174 --> 00:18:10,219
She told me to be
honest and concise.
407
00:18:10,263 --> 00:18:11,916
And did she say
anything about me?
408
00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,918
Yes, she told me that you
hated your last name
409
00:18:13,962 --> 00:18:15,355
and wanted to take it
out on the world.
410
00:18:15,398 --> 00:18:17,792
Oh.Okay.
411
00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:21,274
Uh, did you
not call in
412
00:18:21,317 --> 00:18:22,884
a licensed psychiatrist
to this exorcism,
413
00:18:22,927 --> 00:18:24,146
Dr. Bouchard?
414
00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:26,496
Yes.And why did you do that?
415
00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:28,107
To consult.
416
00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:30,326
And what was the result
of that consultation?He agreed.
417
00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:33,590
He agreed that Caroline
was likely suffering from
418
00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:36,115
dissociative identity disorder
or schizophrenia?
419
00:18:36,158 --> 00:18:37,725
Yes.
420
00:18:37,768 --> 00:18:40,728
And did you both recommend that
the priest stop the exorcism?
421
00:18:44,949 --> 00:18:46,212
Yes.
422
00:18:46,255 --> 00:18:48,039
And did the Church follow
your recommendation?
423
00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:51,260
No.
424
00:18:51,304 --> 00:18:53,436
Why not?
425
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,004
They disagreed.
426
00:18:56,047 --> 00:18:57,919
And, knowing all that you
know now, Dr. Bouchard,
427
00:18:57,962 --> 00:19:01,052
do you believe that
Caroline was possessed?
428
00:19:03,794 --> 00:19:05,492
Well, I don't believe
in possession.
429
00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:07,581
LEMONHEAD:
Thank you.
430
00:19:07,624 --> 00:19:09,887
That was
very helpful.
431
00:19:09,931 --> 00:19:12,020
When did you decide
to become a priest, sir?
432
00:19:12,063 --> 00:19:13,108
Three years ago.
433
00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:14,892
You don't seem like
the priest type.
434
00:19:14,936 --> 00:19:16,198
Why did you decide
to become one?
435
00:19:16,242 --> 00:19:18,722
I found...
436
00:19:18,766 --> 00:19:21,421
I findcomfort in my religion.
437
00:19:21,464 --> 00:19:22,944
Was there something
in particular
438
00:19:22,987 --> 00:19:25,947
that you needed comfort
from three years ago?
439
00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:28,210
Um, uh, can you be
more specific?
440
00:19:28,254 --> 00:19:29,646
Have you ever
been arrested?
441
00:19:32,127 --> 00:19:33,737
Yes.
442
00:19:33,781 --> 00:19:35,043
On what grounds?
443
00:19:35,086 --> 00:19:37,872
Uh, once
for possession.
444
00:19:37,915 --> 00:19:40,222
Once for assault.
445
00:19:40,266 --> 00:19:42,833
Possession of drugs?
Which drug?
446
00:19:42,877 --> 00:19:44,531
Cocaine.
447
00:19:44,574 --> 00:19:46,141
Are you a drug addict?No.
448
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:49,318
LEMONHEAD:
The documents in
that folder detail
449
00:19:49,362 --> 00:19:52,756
three two-month stays
at a rehabilitation facility
450
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,151
in Pennsylvania
between 2010 and 2014.
451
00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:59,067
Substance abuse
and sex addiction support.
452
00:20:02,897 --> 00:20:04,855
I had some issues
453
00:20:04,899 --> 00:20:07,728
with, um, drugs
454
00:20:07,771 --> 00:20:10,078
and...
455
00:20:10,121 --> 00:20:12,123
intimacy.
456
00:20:12,167 --> 00:20:14,169
I cleaned myself up.
457
00:20:15,126 --> 00:20:16,258
I found God.
458
00:20:16,302 --> 00:20:18,521
The police report
on your assault charge
459
00:20:18,565 --> 00:20:20,958
says that you knocked
a man unconscious.
460
00:20:21,002 --> 00:20:23,134
Did you also have
issues with anger?
461
00:20:23,178 --> 00:20:24,614
Ms. Lemonhead,
462
00:20:24,658 --> 00:20:26,181
feel free to get to the point
with these questions.
463
00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,183
My point is that Mr. Acosta
has a pattern
464
00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:29,619
of making reckless decisions
465
00:20:29,663 --> 00:20:32,187
that endanger both his life
and the lives of others.
466
00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:34,537
I'm fairly certain a judge
would find that relevant.
467
00:20:34,581 --> 00:20:36,583
Now, may I continue, or
should we call the judge?
468
00:20:36,626 --> 00:20:38,237
Go ahead and embarrass yourself.
469
00:20:39,847 --> 00:20:43,242
Mr. Acosta, in your role as
a representative of the Church,
470
00:20:43,285 --> 00:20:45,548
do you ever disclose your
background to those you serve?
471
00:20:46,941 --> 00:20:48,986
No.
472
00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:52,251
Do you think Caroline Hopkins
would've allowed you
473
00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:55,297
to assist in her exorcism
had she known your history?
474
00:20:58,344 --> 00:21:00,128
I'm not sure.
475
00:21:00,171 --> 00:21:01,695
We need to do
something.
476
00:21:01,738 --> 00:21:03,958
Yeah, I agree.
477
00:21:04,001 --> 00:21:05,394
Let's talk.
478
00:21:15,665 --> 00:21:17,624
Hello.
How may I help you?
479
00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:18,755
I'd like to attend a class.
480
00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,975
I don't want
to assume your gender,
481
00:21:21,018 --> 00:21:22,933
but this is a women's-only gym.
482
00:21:22,977 --> 00:21:25,109
Hi, how are you?Hi.
483
00:21:27,329 --> 00:21:29,157
I'm a man.
484
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,464
And you know this is
the definition of sexism.
485
00:21:31,507 --> 00:21:32,813
Right?
486
00:21:32,856 --> 00:21:33,857
There's another gym
down the street
487
00:21:33,901 --> 00:21:34,989
that you'd be welcome to attend.
488
00:21:35,032 --> 00:21:35,990
[phone rings]
489
00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:37,426
Excuse me.
Have a good day.
490
00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:38,906
Fit 4 Women.
491
00:21:38,949 --> 00:21:42,213
The 9:30 is
completely booked.
492
00:21:42,257 --> 00:21:43,780
I can add you to
a wait list...
493
00:21:53,355 --> 00:21:56,010
Destroy the past.
494
00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:07,369
Eight million dollars.
495
00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:10,372
I would call that
a confident ask.
496
00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:12,809
It is. Ms. Lemonhead thinks
she has us on the run.
497
00:22:12,853 --> 00:22:13,897
Does she?
498
00:22:13,941 --> 00:22:15,725
Yes.
They also want Father Amara
499
00:22:15,769 --> 00:22:17,118
removed from the priesthood
500
00:22:17,161 --> 00:22:18,380
and a promise that David Acosta
501
00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:19,381
will not be
ordained.
502
00:22:19,425 --> 00:22:20,469
MARX:
So, what do we do?
503
00:22:20,513 --> 00:22:21,992
I told them
we needed
504
00:22:22,036 --> 00:22:23,907
a day to consider
a counter.
505
00:22:23,951 --> 00:22:25,953
♪
506
00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:33,395
[knocking]
507
00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:34,962
Yeah?
508
00:22:42,926 --> 00:22:45,625
We'll rebuff the attempt
to block the ordination.
509
00:22:47,148 --> 00:22:49,977
If it costs
the Church money, don't.
510
00:22:51,718 --> 00:22:55,591
David.
511
00:22:55,635 --> 00:22:56,940
[sighs]
512
00:22:56,984 --> 00:22:58,681
How will I say this?
513
00:22:58,725 --> 00:23:01,815
I'm just gonna
come out and say it.
514
00:23:01,858 --> 00:23:03,860
Okay.
515
00:23:05,296 --> 00:23:07,473
I've always had a crush on you.
516
00:23:07,516 --> 00:23:09,997
That whole time.
517
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,826
You and Julia.
518
00:23:12,869 --> 00:23:15,350
That's why I had
to stay away from you two.
519
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:18,875
I just... I couldn't show it.
520
00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:22,226
And now...
521
00:23:22,270 --> 00:23:25,491
when I saw you yesterday...
522
00:23:25,534 --> 00:23:28,450
I realized my problem
wasn't my sister anymore.
523
00:23:28,494 --> 00:23:31,279
It was... God.
524
00:23:31,322 --> 00:23:33,716
Can you believe that?
525
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,762
God.
526
00:23:44,292 --> 00:23:46,294
Do you ever think of me?
527
00:23:47,774 --> 00:23:49,079
Ever?
528
00:23:59,568 --> 00:24:01,570
♪
529
00:24:17,412 --> 00:24:18,674
I should...
530
00:24:18,718 --> 00:24:20,589
What?
531
00:24:20,633 --> 00:24:21,938
Go?
532
00:24:21,982 --> 00:24:23,853
This is your place.
533
00:24:25,289 --> 00:24:28,815
Uh, I should, um...
534
00:24:28,858 --> 00:24:31,078
I should study.
535
00:24:34,516 --> 00:24:35,822
Yep.
536
00:24:38,346 --> 00:24:40,957
One of the dangers
of living next to a church.
537
00:24:42,132 --> 00:24:44,134
It's hard to get laid.
538
00:24:50,010 --> 00:24:52,012
David?
539
00:24:52,055 --> 00:24:54,797
There are other ways
to serve the Church.
540
00:24:54,841 --> 00:24:57,496
You don't need to marry it.
541
00:25:05,155 --> 00:25:07,114
[cat screeching]
542
00:25:08,637 --> 00:25:10,900
I'm calling the ASPCA.
543
00:25:10,944 --> 00:25:12,162
[groans]
544
00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:16,123
Bad day?
545
00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:17,516
Not the best.
546
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,039
Too many demons
to fight?
547
00:25:19,082 --> 00:25:19,909
[short chuckle]
548
00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:21,781
The kids were talking about
549
00:25:21,824 --> 00:25:23,086
all your, uh, adventures.
550
00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:26,220
Exorcisms and chasing demons.
551
00:25:26,263 --> 00:25:28,004
It sounds
exciting.
552
00:25:28,048 --> 00:25:29,658
It's not as exciting
as it sounds.
553
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,357
Is that why you were
given a rosary?
554
00:25:33,401 --> 00:25:34,358
What?
555
00:25:34,402 --> 00:25:37,144
The, uh, the rosary
556
00:25:37,187 --> 00:25:39,059
in the garage.
557
00:25:39,102 --> 00:25:41,540
What are you trying
to ask me, Andy?
558
00:25:41,583 --> 00:25:43,237
I don't know.
I mean, who gave it to you?
559
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,586
Was it Ben the Magnificent?
560
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:46,109
No.So...
561
00:25:46,153 --> 00:25:47,937
I don't need
to worry about him?
562
00:25:49,243 --> 00:25:50,461
No, you don't.
563
00:25:50,505 --> 00:25:53,203
No, okay. Okay.
564
00:25:58,078 --> 00:26:00,384
Hey, are you becoming
unlapsed, babe?
565
00:26:00,428 --> 00:26:01,908
What?
566
00:26:01,951 --> 00:26:03,953
Am I...
567
00:26:06,608 --> 00:26:07,957
No.
568
00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:10,046
Okay. Okay.
569
00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:11,657
Good.
570
00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:15,008
Is there a problem if I were?
571
00:26:16,749 --> 00:26:18,359
If you were becoming unlapsed?
572
00:26:18,402 --> 00:26:19,926
Yeah.
573
00:26:19,969 --> 00:26:22,450
Yeah. Maybe.
I mean,
574
00:26:22,493 --> 00:26:24,104
the same kind
of problem we'd have
575
00:26:24,147 --> 00:26:26,585
if you tried to cure
the girls' colds with leeches.
576
00:26:26,628 --> 00:26:28,587
It's superstitious.
577
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:30,763
Those are your words, not mine.
578
00:26:32,547 --> 00:26:34,636
Well, I heard a doctor today
talking about prescribing
579
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,031
chlorpromazine and aripiprazole
and trauma exercises,
580
00:26:38,074 --> 00:26:40,642
and I realized it sounded
just as much like leeches.
581
00:26:40,686 --> 00:26:42,078
It sounded...
582
00:26:44,124 --> 00:26:45,604
What?
583
00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:49,129
What?
584
00:26:53,002 --> 00:26:55,962
What?Hold on.
585
00:26:56,005 --> 00:26:57,616
Ben?
586
00:26:57,659 --> 00:26:59,922
I need you to look
into something for me.
587
00:26:59,966 --> 00:27:03,447
So, what I'm thinking,
in this whole business...
588
00:27:08,278 --> 00:27:10,498
I just went in and
pointed at ten of them.
589
00:27:10,541 --> 00:27:12,108
They were so upset they sent
the security guard after me.
590
00:27:12,152 --> 00:27:14,023
[laughs]
591
00:27:14,067 --> 00:27:15,808
How did that make you feel?
592
00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:17,418
Excited.
593
00:27:17,461 --> 00:27:19,855
Strong.
Really good.
594
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:23,032
Good.
595
00:27:24,947 --> 00:27:26,688
Good work.
596
00:27:28,298 --> 00:27:30,300
Now what?
597
00:27:38,047 --> 00:27:39,832
The next step
598
00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:42,835
is putting "as if" into action,
599
00:27:42,878 --> 00:27:46,142
and I'm not sure
you're ready for that.
600
00:27:47,361 --> 00:27:49,276
True self-esteem
601
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,495
requires true action.
602
00:27:51,539 --> 00:27:53,367
There are some people
603
00:27:53,410 --> 00:27:56,109
who walk up to the line...
604
00:27:56,152 --> 00:27:58,720
then have to turn back.
605
00:28:01,505 --> 00:28:04,073
Then there are the few
606
00:28:04,117 --> 00:28:07,337
who are willing
to cross that line.
607
00:28:07,381 --> 00:28:10,471
Which are you?
608
00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:12,516
I bought a gun.
609
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,388
I know.
610
00:28:14,431 --> 00:28:17,565
But do you know how to use it?
611
00:28:17,608 --> 00:28:20,437
And you're gonna need
more than one.
612
00:28:24,398 --> 00:28:26,269
What if I practiced?
613
00:28:35,975 --> 00:28:37,977
Adam.
614
00:28:40,414 --> 00:28:43,634
This is Adam.
615
00:28:43,678 --> 00:28:45,593
He's a marksman.
616
00:28:45,636 --> 00:28:47,464
He's a good man.
617
00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:50,163
He's one of the 59 people
I trust in the world.
618
00:28:50,206 --> 00:28:51,381
Hi.
619
00:28:51,425 --> 00:28:53,427
He's here to help.
620
00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:55,342
So, if you're serious,
621
00:28:55,385 --> 00:28:59,346
he will help you become
proficient with guns.
622
00:29:01,261 --> 00:29:04,438
So, this is your
red pill moment.
623
00:29:04,481 --> 00:29:07,484
Which way
do you want to go?
624
00:29:12,489 --> 00:29:14,187
I don't have time
for this, Leland.
625
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:15,884
Wait.
626
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,583
Give him a moment.
627
00:29:25,024 --> 00:29:26,329
Cute little office.
628
00:29:26,373 --> 00:29:27,896
Thank you.
629
00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:29,289
What's that?
630
00:29:29,332 --> 00:29:30,507
I used to be a climber.
631
00:29:30,551 --> 00:29:32,292
Ah, I wouldn't have guessed.
632
00:29:32,335 --> 00:29:34,294
So, you wanted to talk...[screech]
633
00:29:34,337 --> 00:29:36,209
Holy crap!
What was that?
634
00:29:36,252 --> 00:29:37,297
It's a cat.
635
00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:38,602
Sounds like
a demon.
636
00:29:38,646 --> 00:29:41,997
No, it's just a cat
who doesn't like me.
637
00:29:42,041 --> 00:29:43,303
Okay.
638
00:29:43,346 --> 00:29:45,784
So, you wanted to talk
about the defense?
639
00:29:45,827 --> 00:29:49,178
Yes, I think it needs
to stop being a defense.
640
00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:52,355
You've let them rip into
the non-science of exorcism.
641
00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:56,142
Now you need to rip into
the non-science of psychiatry.
642
00:29:56,185 --> 00:29:59,362
Dr. Lynch-Giles, you
prescribed chlorpromazine
643
00:29:59,406 --> 00:30:01,016
and aripiprazole
for Caroline?
644
00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:02,365
Yes.
645
00:30:02,409 --> 00:30:03,714
Doctor, where
were you
646
00:30:03,758 --> 00:30:06,848
on August 6, 2019?
647
00:30:06,892 --> 00:30:08,981
[chuckles]
On vacation.
648
00:30:09,024 --> 00:30:10,417
On a cruise,
649
00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:11,897
sponsored by the same
pharmaceutical company
650
00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:13,420
that manufactures
chlorpromazine.
651
00:30:13,463 --> 00:30:15,596
LYNCH-GILES:
Every pharmaceutical company
652
00:30:15,639 --> 00:30:17,337
sponsors events
for the medical industry.
653
00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:19,165
It has absolutely no bearing
on how we treat...
654
00:30:19,208 --> 00:30:22,733
There are seven FDA-approved
first-generation
655
00:30:22,777 --> 00:30:25,954
anti-psychotics,
and ten second-generation...[whispers]: Eleven.
656
00:30:25,998 --> 00:30:29,566
...elevensecond-generation
anti-psychotics.
657
00:30:29,610 --> 00:30:32,874
So why chlorpromazine
and aripiprazole for Caroline?
658
00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:34,223
Like every
psychiatric medication,
659
00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:36,530
prescribing
is a bit of an art form.
660
00:30:36,573 --> 00:30:38,184
Doctor, do chlorpromazine
and aripiprazole
661
00:30:38,227 --> 00:30:39,402
have any side effects?
662
00:30:39,446 --> 00:30:40,447
KURT:
They do.
663
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:42,492
Uh, dizziness, nausea,
664
00:30:42,536 --> 00:30:45,191
sleepiness, suicidal ideation.Dr. Lynch-Giles
665
00:30:45,234 --> 00:30:47,497
stated that Caroline
made two attempts
666
00:30:47,541 --> 00:30:49,630
to kill herself
after the exorcism.
667
00:30:49,673 --> 00:30:51,806
Were all of these attempts
while she was taking
668
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:54,374
the medication he prescribed?
669
00:30:54,417 --> 00:30:57,377
That is correct.Are there any anti-psychotics
670
00:30:57,420 --> 00:30:59,466
that don't have
suicidal ideation
671
00:30:59,509 --> 00:31:01,598
as a side effect?Clozapine.
672
00:31:01,642 --> 00:31:04,036
So, why wouldn't a psychiatrist
like Dr. Lynch-Giles
673
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:06,038
prescribe clozapine?
674
00:31:06,081 --> 00:31:07,735
[clicks tongue]
675
00:31:07,778 --> 00:31:09,258
It's expensive.
676
00:31:09,302 --> 00:31:10,781
So, Dr. Lynch-Giles
put his patient
677
00:31:10,825 --> 00:31:12,914
on a less-expensive
medication
678
00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:14,916
proven to cause people
to kill themselves?
679
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,961
Objection.
680
00:31:16,004 --> 00:31:17,571
Dr. Boggs is your witness.
681
00:31:17,614 --> 00:31:20,487
I'm just asking him
questions as an expert.
682
00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:22,445
Doctor, do you
have an opinion
683
00:31:22,489 --> 00:31:26,493
on Dr. Lynch-Giles' trauma
conceptualization exercises?
684
00:31:26,536 --> 00:31:29,626
Yes, it is extreme
experimental therapy.
685
00:31:29,670 --> 00:31:32,368
Here is an expert
that agrees with you
686
00:31:32,412 --> 00:31:35,981
in this article
in The Good Psychologist.
687
00:31:36,024 --> 00:31:37,286
Can you read
who wrote it?
688
00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:38,505
Yes.
689
00:31:38,548 --> 00:31:40,594
Dr. Lynch-Giles.
690
00:31:40,637 --> 00:31:44,337
Huh.
And what does he write... there?
691
00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:47,253
"This extreme therapeutic method
692
00:31:47,296 --> 00:31:50,386
"can be a guided tour
of their own personal hell
693
00:31:50,430 --> 00:31:52,388
"without a painkiller.
694
00:31:52,432 --> 00:31:54,564
"And if the mental
health professional
695
00:31:54,608 --> 00:31:56,044
"doesn't take
their time,
696
00:31:56,088 --> 00:31:58,351
the patient will end up
worse than before."
697
00:31:58,394 --> 00:31:59,743
RENEE:
According to his own words,
isn't it possible
698
00:31:59,787 --> 00:32:01,441
that his therapeutic methods
699
00:32:01,484 --> 00:32:04,879
may be just as responsible--
if not more responsible--
700
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:07,969
for Caroline's
deteriorating mental health?
701
00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:10,276
KURT:
Yes. Definitely.
702
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:11,973
Amazing work.
703
00:32:12,017 --> 00:32:14,062
Thanks.
Wish I could take full credit.
704
00:32:14,106 --> 00:32:16,673
It was your friend's idea.
705
00:32:19,328 --> 00:32:21,374
So, the problem are just those
pesky psychiatrists?
706
00:32:21,417 --> 00:32:24,333
If only the exorcists
were in complete control...
707
00:32:24,377 --> 00:32:25,987
Sounding a little bitter there,
Ms. Lemonhead.
708
00:32:26,031 --> 00:32:28,076
Let's see how this holds up.
709
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,643
Dr. Bouchard?
710
00:32:29,686 --> 00:32:31,732
Yes?I had no idea
711
00:32:31,775 --> 00:32:34,735
mental health professionals
were such ineffectual quacks.
712
00:32:34,778 --> 00:32:37,172
We'll be re-deposing you
tomorrow
713
00:32:37,216 --> 00:32:38,478
based on what you saw.
714
00:32:38,521 --> 00:32:40,610
Although I must confess
715
00:32:40,654 --> 00:32:43,483
it seems like you keep
flipping sides.Hmm.
716
00:32:43,526 --> 00:32:45,485
It's hard to know
where your allegiances are.
717
00:32:45,528 --> 00:32:47,443
My allegiance is to the truth.We'll see about that.
718
00:32:47,487 --> 00:32:48,967
See you at 9:00.
719
00:32:52,753 --> 00:32:54,755
What does she know
to undercut you?
720
00:32:56,931 --> 00:32:59,107
Everything.
721
00:33:06,027 --> 00:33:07,768
No, no.
That's your natural
722
00:33:07,811 --> 00:33:09,639
point of aim.
There.
723
00:33:09,683 --> 00:33:11,032
See, now when
you lift the gun,
724
00:33:11,076 --> 00:33:12,686
your natural point of aim
aligns with the target.
725
00:33:12,729 --> 00:33:15,515
So fire.
726
00:33:15,558 --> 00:33:16,777
And remember...
727
00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:18,518
Squeeze, don't pull.
728
00:33:22,478 --> 00:33:23,479
Whoo!
729
00:33:23,523 --> 00:33:25,177
[laughs]
Better.
730
00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:26,221
Keep at it.
731
00:33:26,265 --> 00:33:28,441
Have you ever
shot anyone?
732
00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:29,790
All the time.
733
00:33:29,833 --> 00:33:31,052
Seriously?
Yeah.
734
00:33:31,096 --> 00:33:32,314
That's how you get good at it.
735
00:33:32,358 --> 00:33:33,576
You kill people.
736
00:33:41,671 --> 00:33:44,152
[laughing, panting]
737
00:33:44,196 --> 00:33:46,154
Your graduation!
738
00:33:46,198 --> 00:33:47,721
[laughs]
739
00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:53,292
You are no longer subject
to "as if."
740
00:33:53,335 --> 00:33:55,033
Congratulations.
741
00:33:56,947 --> 00:33:58,862
Oh, one last thing.
742
00:33:58,906 --> 00:34:01,865
Fit 4 Women is not working
as a target.
743
00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:03,650
What? Why not?
744
00:34:03,693 --> 00:34:05,434
People saw you.
745
00:34:05,478 --> 00:34:08,089
They've already heightened
their security measures.
746
00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:10,309
They'd stop you before you even
turned down the street.
747
00:34:10,352 --> 00:34:14,095
No, we need... a fresh target.
748
00:34:14,139 --> 00:34:17,229
Where people are trusting,
vulnerable...
749
00:34:17,272 --> 00:34:19,405
Like, um...
750
00:34:19,448 --> 00:34:21,233
a wedding shop?
751
00:34:25,367 --> 00:34:26,325
No.
752
00:34:26,368 --> 00:34:29,241
Let's see...
753
00:34:29,284 --> 00:34:31,025
Ah.
754
00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:32,896
Prayer group led by this man.
755
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:35,073
He's a priest-in-training--
without this beard--
756
00:34:35,116 --> 00:34:37,988
and he leads a prayer group
at a nearby church.
757
00:34:38,032 --> 00:34:39,338
But I...
758
00:34:39,381 --> 00:34:40,861
But that's not women.
759
00:34:40,904 --> 00:34:43,472
It's mostly
a women's prayer group.
760
00:34:43,516 --> 00:34:45,779
And most importantly,
761
00:34:45,822 --> 00:34:47,259
they are grouped together
762
00:34:47,302 --> 00:34:50,218
and they don't have
a security guard.
763
00:34:50,262 --> 00:34:52,133
You could get away.
764
00:34:52,177 --> 00:34:53,482
[chuckles]
765
00:34:53,526 --> 00:34:55,441
What?
766
00:34:55,484 --> 00:34:58,226
Oh, I get it.
767
00:34:58,270 --> 00:35:00,272
I'm asking for too much, now?
768
00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:01,708
Okay.
769
00:35:01,751 --> 00:35:04,102
Go home, forget
any of this ever happened.
770
00:35:04,145 --> 00:35:06,147
You go back to your life.
771
00:35:06,191 --> 00:35:07,540
When?
772
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,893
Can I trust you?
773
00:35:12,936 --> 00:35:14,808
Yes.
774
00:35:22,381 --> 00:35:25,297
Then I'll send you a signal.
775
00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:27,386
"S.O.I."
776
00:35:27,429 --> 00:35:29,301
What's that mean?
777
00:35:29,344 --> 00:35:32,042
"Slaughter
of the Innocents."
778
00:35:32,086 --> 00:35:34,393
[laughs]
It's cool, right?
779
00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:36,177
Be ready.
780
00:35:51,627 --> 00:35:53,368
How many years have you been
a licensed psychologist, Doctor?
781
00:35:53,412 --> 00:35:54,804
Seven.
782
00:35:54,848 --> 00:35:56,371
But you've recently
switched careers?
783
00:35:56,415 --> 00:35:58,156
No, I'm still a psychologist.
784
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:01,159
I evaluate clients and offer
my professional opinion.
785
00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:02,421
But in a much different context.
786
00:36:02,464 --> 00:36:03,726
No, my role
remains the same.
787
00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:05,119
Impartial assessor.
788
00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:06,425
Haven't you chosen religion
789
00:36:06,468 --> 00:36:08,644
over science
in your new role?
No.
790
00:36:08,688 --> 00:36:10,211
I'm an atheist.
791
00:36:10,255 --> 00:36:12,213
That has nothing to do
with my professional function.
792
00:36:12,257 --> 00:36:15,434
So in your professional opinion,
was Caroline Hopkins possessed?
793
00:36:15,477 --> 00:36:16,435
The DSM-5 doesn't recognize
794
00:36:16,478 --> 00:36:18,306
possession...Yes or no, Doctor?
795
00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:19,351
RENEE:
Let her answer
796
00:36:19,394 --> 00:36:21,570
the question the way she wants.
797
00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:27,359
The DSM-5 is a crucial guide,
798
00:36:27,402 --> 00:36:29,622
but it's also in
its fifth edition.
799
00:36:29,665 --> 00:36:32,494
It's about trial and error.
800
00:36:32,538 --> 00:36:36,672
And Dr. Lynch-Giles, in
exercising that trial and error,
801
00:36:36,716 --> 00:36:39,284
contributed to
Caroline's ill health.
802
00:36:39,327 --> 00:36:41,024
Excuse me, Doctor,
are you telling me...
803
00:36:41,068 --> 00:36:43,244
I'm telling you that
I'm an empiricist, ma'am.
804
00:36:43,288 --> 00:36:46,247
After the exorcism, I saw
a healthy Caroline Hopkins.
805
00:36:46,291 --> 00:36:49,642
She was happy
and loving.
806
00:36:49,685 --> 00:36:51,426
Since Dr. Lynch-Giles's care,
807
00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:54,560
I've seen a Caroline who's taken
a turn for the worse.
808
00:36:54,603 --> 00:36:58,607
I think Dr. Lynch-Giles
should stop caring for her.
809
00:36:58,651 --> 00:37:01,480
So you really sold your soul?
810
00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:02,742
Go to hell, Lemonhead.
811
00:37:02,785 --> 00:37:04,700
Ask her a real question
or shut the hell up.
812
00:37:04,744 --> 00:37:06,833
Is this because you're in a
relationship with David Acosta?
813
00:37:06,876 --> 00:37:08,617
Oh, my God!I couldn't help
but notice
814
00:37:08,661 --> 00:37:10,053
you've gotten very familiar
with him.Are you kidding me?
815
00:37:10,097 --> 00:37:12,012
That's character
assassination
816
00:37:12,055 --> 00:37:13,405
and I don't appreciate it...Anything to win a case,
817
00:37:13,448 --> 00:37:14,580
is that right?...and I will not
put up with it.
818
00:37:14,623 --> 00:37:15,885
I will do anything
to stop you from...
819
00:37:19,759 --> 00:37:22,631
I'll start by saying
I do not agree with this.
820
00:37:24,329 --> 00:37:26,156
But Caroline Hopkins wants
821
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,203
to settle...
for medical costs.
822
00:37:32,554 --> 00:37:33,816
We can make
that work.
823
00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:34,861
[sarcastic]:
Really?
824
00:37:34,904 --> 00:37:37,385
You think
you can make that work?
825
00:37:37,429 --> 00:37:40,083
Well, you gotta love the Church.
826
00:37:40,127 --> 00:37:42,347
[footsteps receding]
827
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:44,479
[door opens, closes]
828
00:37:44,523 --> 00:37:45,654
[quietly]:
Good work, Renee.
829
00:37:45,698 --> 00:37:47,700
Anytime, Your Excellency.
830
00:38:02,584 --> 00:38:04,194
Open it.
831
00:38:04,238 --> 00:38:05,761
Where are the girls?
832
00:38:05,805 --> 00:38:07,415
I tucked them in.And that worked?
833
00:38:07,459 --> 00:38:09,722
Well, I told them
if they shut up,
834
00:38:09,765 --> 00:38:11,289
we'd consider
keeping the cat.
835
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:15,554
What is it?
836
00:38:15,597 --> 00:38:17,338
Well, I got
everybody else a gift.
837
00:38:17,382 --> 00:38:19,122
I thought I should
get you one, too.
838
00:38:24,693 --> 00:38:26,304
It's light.
Mm-hmm.
839
00:38:28,175 --> 00:38:30,351
I've been thinking a bit
about your time here,
840
00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:34,399
and, uh, your new job,
and this exorcism thing.
841
00:38:34,442 --> 00:38:38,490
And I realized that you miss it.
842
00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:39,665
Miss what?
843
00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:41,319
Climbing.
844
00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:43,364
And don't say "no."
I mean, you're dealing with
845
00:38:43,408 --> 00:38:47,890
demons and killers,
and people doing bad things.
846
00:38:47,934 --> 00:38:49,152
It's transference, you know?
847
00:38:49,196 --> 00:38:50,545
This is New York.
848
00:38:50,589 --> 00:38:51,981
People doing bad things here
849
00:38:52,025 --> 00:38:54,941
is like
climbing a mountain there.
850
00:38:54,984 --> 00:38:56,246
Anyway, open it.
851
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,645
You should take the tour
of Everest in the spring.
852
00:39:03,689 --> 00:39:05,255
I'll stay here.
853
00:39:05,299 --> 00:39:06,866
I'll take care
of the girls.
854
00:39:06,909 --> 00:39:08,911
I'll be the dad.
855
00:39:10,522 --> 00:39:12,567
You should go.
I'll stay.
856
00:39:14,308 --> 00:39:16,092
I just love you.
857
00:39:24,057 --> 00:39:26,059
[cat screams]
858
00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:28,627
[sighs]
859
00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:30,455
I'm gonna kill it.
860
00:39:41,857 --> 00:39:42,858
RENEE [whispers]:
David.
861
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,100
I have to lead a prayer group.
862
00:40:10,495 --> 00:40:12,845
I'm not leaving here
until you touch me.
863
00:40:12,888 --> 00:40:14,890
♪
864
00:40:18,590 --> 00:40:20,766
[choir singing in distance]
865
00:40:20,809 --> 00:40:24,465
♪ Who are poor in spirit
866
00:40:24,509 --> 00:40:30,210
♪ Theirs is the kingdom of God
867
00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:32,647
♪ Blessed are they
868
00:40:32,691 --> 00:40:36,912
♪ Full of sorrow
869
00:40:36,956 --> 00:40:42,352
♪ They shall be consoled...
870
00:40:42,396 --> 00:40:45,225
Matrix,baby.
871
00:40:45,268 --> 00:40:48,141
Why-why is this prayer group
only for women?
872
00:40:48,184 --> 00:40:50,752
Are you sure?
'Cause that's not what it says.
873
00:40:50,796 --> 00:40:53,494
You talking to me, lady?
874
00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:56,323
[laughs]
875
00:40:59,544 --> 00:41:01,546
Boom.
876
00:41:02,721 --> 00:41:04,244
Boom.
877
00:41:08,030 --> 00:41:09,031
[blows sharply]
878
00:41:11,338 --> 00:41:12,339
[blows sharply]
879
00:41:14,602 --> 00:41:16,212
[body thuds]
880
00:41:16,256 --> 00:41:19,694
♪ They shall inherit the earth
881
00:41:19,738 --> 00:41:22,784
♪ Blessed are they
882
00:41:22,828 --> 00:41:25,787
♪ Who hunger and thirst
883
00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:30,531
♪ They shall have their fill.
884
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:36,015
You pathetic, ridiculous...
885
00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:37,103
[grunting]
886
00:41:39,192 --> 00:41:41,455
[thudding, crashing]LELAND:
Pathetic, useless
887
00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:43,457
son of a bitch!
888
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:45,503
[panting, groaning]
889
00:41:52,335 --> 00:41:53,293
[exhales]
890
00:42:14,488 --> 00:42:16,446
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891
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