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In WWE, they were the Legion of Doom. 8 00:00:45,150 --> 00:00:48,270 Prior to that, they were the Road Warriors. 9 00:00:48,530 --> 00:00:50,730 Take on a warrior, we'll slap you right down. 10 00:00:50,970 --> 00:00:53,630 In either case, they were ass -kicking machines. 11 00:00:54,150 --> 00:00:57,530 They don't have any regard for themselves, they have no regard for 12 00:00:58,030 --> 00:00:59,030 It was hardcore. 13 00:00:59,890 --> 00:01:01,830 Every night. 14 00:01:03,210 --> 00:01:04,430 You had Animal. 15 00:01:04,970 --> 00:01:07,010 Anybody, anywhere, anytime. 16 00:01:07,490 --> 00:01:08,490 And you had Hawk. 17 00:01:08,790 --> 00:01:09,990 You did me. 18 00:01:10,290 --> 00:01:12,510 It's almost like they were just tied together. 19 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:16,970 But behind the curtain, they were completely opposite. 20 00:01:17,490 --> 00:01:19,930 The charms of James, like Daddy does in the ring. 21 00:01:20,150 --> 00:01:23,690 He just was always there and just always so loving. 22 00:01:24,250 --> 00:01:28,990 You know, I was Mr. Joe Straight and Narrow and Hawk was Mr. Whew. 23 00:01:31,010 --> 00:01:33,030 Total excess, everything he did. 24 00:01:35,530 --> 00:01:39,930 Three times he was rushed into an ER for drug overdoses. Could have died. 25 00:01:41,650 --> 00:01:45,450 At that point, I was really pissed at him. Felt like I was being deserted by 26 00:01:45,450 --> 00:01:46,450 partner. 27 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:49,710 It got to the point where he's like, I can't babysit anymore. 28 00:01:51,090 --> 00:01:53,650 But they needed each other. 29 00:01:55,070 --> 00:01:58,070 The beauty of them was together, not separate. 30 00:01:58,510 --> 00:02:01,510 They were brothers. 31 00:02:01,870 --> 00:02:03,830 He goes, Joe, I love you. 32 00:02:04,250 --> 00:02:06,230 I said, brother, I love you too, Mike. 33 00:02:06,590 --> 00:02:09,770 I didn't think I was going to get upset, but it was a very, it was very 34 00:02:09,770 --> 00:02:10,770 emotional. 35 00:02:10,930 --> 00:02:12,510 I never got to say goodbye. 36 00:02:12,990 --> 00:02:18,190 The greatest team of our time, the greatest team of all time. 37 00:02:18,590 --> 00:02:20,150 They were the best that there was. 38 00:02:30,490 --> 00:02:31,750 Well, this is where it all began. 39 00:02:33,610 --> 00:02:38,590 Six kids in the family, and Mike was number five. 40 00:02:39,410 --> 00:02:44,590 Mike as a kid, mischievous, always in trouble for something. 41 00:02:44,830 --> 00:02:50,190 A kid just running around and playing, but a little harder and a little heavier 42 00:02:50,190 --> 00:02:51,190 than everyone else. 43 00:02:51,850 --> 00:02:56,430 He wasn't a troubled kid, you know, growing up, but, I mean, he was. 44 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,000 For whatever reason, he liked to fight. 45 00:03:00,420 --> 00:03:04,540 That was, you know, I mean, that was Mike's sport, you know, was kind of 46 00:03:04,540 --> 00:03:09,940 fighting. He had a very short temper. I mean, if he felt you crossed him, he was 47 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:10,940 probably going to knock you out. 48 00:03:11,460 --> 00:03:17,520 There was that fighting time in his life in high school and everything, and it 49 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,040 seemed like he was trying to prove something to himself or whatever. 50 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:24,060 Psychologists would have fun with it, I think. 51 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:26,060 And he used... 52 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:32,720 Alcohol and pot and things like that. I mean, it was peace, love, dope time in 53 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,420 the world. But he was just really a good guy. 54 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,320 If you were his friend, he would do anything for you. 55 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:47,240 And that's one thing that he valued and that he kept through his whole 56 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,100 career was his friends. 57 00:03:50,940 --> 00:03:52,680 Check. One, two, three, four. 58 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:55,420 Hawk and I grew up in Minneapolis. 59 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,480 We went to two different high schools because we lived in two different parts 60 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,418 the city. 61 00:03:59,420 --> 00:04:01,000 Here we are, a little bit of nostalgia. 62 00:04:01,740 --> 00:04:03,440 This is Hawk's all neighborhood here. 63 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,440 My dad and Hawk lived fairly close. 64 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,000 Like, I think they could have ran into each other at, like, any moment in time. 65 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:13,200 It was just they hadn't yet. 66 00:04:14,380 --> 00:04:18,519 My dad, of course, in his high school years, played football. 67 00:04:19,370 --> 00:04:23,990 Joe was highlighted in the Minneapolis Star Tribune as an all -conference 68 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:26,150 football player out of Irondale High School. 69 00:04:26,430 --> 00:04:30,370 At the time, I was at Golden Valley Lutheran College playing football. 70 00:04:30,590 --> 00:04:34,430 I was part of the recruiting team. 71 00:04:34,730 --> 00:04:41,650 I told him who I was, invited him over for a night to tour the campus and see 72 00:04:41,650 --> 00:04:45,650 if he would entertain the idea of coming and playing football with us. 73 00:04:45,930 --> 00:04:48,330 And he made a decision to come. 74 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:54,720 I met Joe Laranitis here in 1978 in the fall when school started. 75 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,540 And after that, it was love at first sight. 76 00:05:01,260 --> 00:05:06,600 He was a very good football player, but that didn't quite work out. 77 00:05:07,580 --> 00:05:10,220 Life went a different direction for him. 78 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,760 That's when he found out Nancy got pregnant. 79 00:05:19,150 --> 00:05:25,570 So he was going to do the noble thing and drop out of college and marry Nancy. 80 00:05:26,050 --> 00:05:29,310 That was just the right thing to do. 81 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:36,510 I found out that we were going to have a boy, and then we had Joey in February 82 00:05:36,510 --> 00:05:38,090 of 1981. 83 00:05:40,530 --> 00:05:46,010 It was like just a light switch. He just stopped doing whatever he was doing and 84 00:05:46,010 --> 00:05:47,950 just became a dad, as simple as that. 85 00:05:48,330 --> 00:05:51,970 I know that he and Joey's mom tried to be together and stay together and 86 00:05:51,970 --> 00:05:55,430 everything, and I understand that that didn't work out, but they were able to 87 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:59,430 parents at such a young age, and I think they did a pretty good job. 88 00:06:00,810 --> 00:06:03,830 We ended up getting divorced in 1982. 89 00:06:04,850 --> 00:06:07,350 Now I think back, and I'm like, yeah, we were young. 90 00:06:08,990 --> 00:06:10,650 Now you're a brand -new father. 91 00:06:11,250 --> 00:06:12,750 You're 20 years old. 92 00:06:13,510 --> 00:06:15,530 What was going to be his future? 93 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,820 Growing up, my dad was, he was more of the fatherly figure that was a provider. 94 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,900 My mom was probably a little bit more the one that gave the love, I guess. 95 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,580 Our mom died young, 57. 96 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,620 She was a sweetheart. 97 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:39,860 Yep, yep. 98 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,340 Yeah, she had a real heart. 99 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,440 And Mike was, you know, like, just out of high school. 100 00:06:51,290 --> 00:06:55,850 I didn't know how much it affected him, but some of his friends told me that it 101 00:06:55,850 --> 00:06:57,410 really had a hard time. 102 00:06:59,150 --> 00:07:04,350 That was his time of transition. What am I going to do in life, you know? And 103 00:07:04,350 --> 00:07:07,870 his direction was a little lost. 104 00:07:08,250 --> 00:07:11,990 He also didn't like school. He didn't care for school. 105 00:07:12,510 --> 00:07:16,090 And that's where he started in his whole workout regimen. 106 00:07:18,290 --> 00:07:19,290 In Minneapolis. 107 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,600 There was a gym that became known as the Mecca of the Midwest called simply The 108 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,160 Gym. All right, here we are. We're at The Gym. 109 00:07:28,540 --> 00:07:32,900 13 ,500 square feet of the toughest powerlifters, bodybuilders, 110 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,340 anything you want in the state of Minnesota is right here. 111 00:07:36,020 --> 00:07:37,820 One day, I go to The Gym. 112 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,120 Mike happens to be there. 113 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,460 And I'm doing incline. I'm doing like 315 or 350 with my dad on the incline. 114 00:07:45,740 --> 00:07:48,560 He looks at me and he goes, you're not right. 115 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,000 He goes, the young kid should not be doing that. He just opened hands and 116 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:53,100 whack! 117 00:07:53,340 --> 00:07:56,620 You know, and from there, you know, we became real good friends. 118 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,400 You know, once they kind of met officially, then it just kind of became 119 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,440 they were just meant to be. 120 00:08:04,620 --> 00:08:09,440 They met at the gym, but at the same time, they were bouncing at the bars. 121 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,080 I can't remember, was it Grandma Bee's or whatever he used to talk about all 122 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,360 time? Well, here we are at the infamous Grandma B's. 123 00:08:16,580 --> 00:08:22,460 They loved it because they got to get paid to beat people up. That's what we 124 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:26,520 were known for. We were like old dogs backed up in a corner. We were vicious. 125 00:08:27,780 --> 00:08:33,120 Also for my dad, I think he was honestly willing to do whatever he needed to do 126 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,360 to, you know, pay for diapers, pay for whatever, you know, whatever the little 127 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,880 baby Joey needed. 128 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,320 Here we are at the Baltimore Civic Center, Baltimore, Maryland, talking to 129 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,660 wrestling fans coming to see Georgia Championship Wrestling. 130 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,900 Meanwhile, Ole Anderson, a legendary wrestler and promoter in Georgia 131 00:08:52,900 --> 00:08:57,140 Championship Wrestling, sees a movie, Mad Max, The Road Warrior. 132 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,160 It puts a light bulb over his head and gives him the idea for a tag team. 133 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:18,040 A guy named Eddie Sharkey is a trainer who's also working as a bartender at 134 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:18,899 Grandma B's. 135 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:23,660 And he knows Ole Anderson, the promoter. And Anderson one day calls Eddie 136 00:09:23,660 --> 00:09:25,580 Sharkey and says, I'm looking for a couple of guys. 137 00:09:26,660 --> 00:09:32,320 Ole comes to Minneapolis, meets with Eddie Sharkey at Grandma B's, and says, 138 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:34,240 hey, who you got? 139 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,660 You know, I need some talent. 140 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:38,130 Who do you have? 141 00:09:39,050 --> 00:09:45,250 Oh, he sees Joe and Mike, and he thinks, there they are. Like, that's it. 142 00:09:45,990 --> 00:09:49,570 And from then on there, you know, we went into the wrestling camp that Eddie 143 00:09:49,570 --> 00:09:53,850 Sharkey had. We went there three months straight, five days a week, and we 144 00:09:53,850 --> 00:09:55,650 really beat the heck out of each other. 145 00:09:58,430 --> 00:10:03,130 So now they get called down south to Georgia Championship Wrestling as the 146 00:10:03,130 --> 00:10:05,150 Warriors. We're too guy. 147 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,760 that just happened to be tough guys, to go directly from bouncing to maybe a 148 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,820 smidge of training, and then to Georgia Championship Wrestling, which was one of 149 00:10:16,820 --> 00:10:21,280 the top professional wrestling territories in the country at that 150 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,440 totally unheard of. 151 00:10:23,020 --> 00:10:28,020 They literally just took this chance and didn't even know what was going to come 152 00:10:28,020 --> 00:10:28,919 of it. 153 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,560 Mike, at that point in his life, was still wandering. 154 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,080 You know, Joe from the get -go was this family guy. 155 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,180 So much harder for Joe than it would have been for Mike because Mike had 156 00:10:43,180 --> 00:10:44,460 to lose. 157 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,460 But for my dad, you know, you're potentially leaving a job, leaving a 158 00:10:49,460 --> 00:10:50,560 like, what are you doing? 159 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,180 It was kind of a weird spot for him where it just felt like it was like, now 160 00:10:55,180 --> 00:10:56,180 what? 161 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,660 The Road Warriors. 162 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:02,300 Here they are at Georgia Championship Wrestling. 163 00:11:03,180 --> 00:11:05,360 First things first, they needed a manager. 164 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:11,440 I want to take a moment, if I may, to talk to Precious Paul Ellering. Here's a 165 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:17,540 gentleman who has made... Oh, yes, rumors about... Oli pulled me aside with 166 00:11:17,540 --> 00:11:20,860 and said, these are going to be your boys. 167 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,100 First, we molded the look. 168 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:27,900 It just started with face paint first. 169 00:11:28,660 --> 00:11:34,000 Then Hawk said one day, Joe, you know, you should get a mohawk, and then I'll 170 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,080 get the double mohawk, and then our heads will be one. 171 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:39,960 Two make one. 172 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,580 Then we said, come up with names, and Uli points to Animal, and he says, you 173 00:11:46,580 --> 00:11:47,580 look like an animal. 174 00:11:47,820 --> 00:11:50,340 Hawk said, I think I'm a hawk. 175 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Which one's which? 176 00:11:52,220 --> 00:11:53,760 This is Hawk, this is Animal. 177 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,720 They were natural heels. 178 00:11:56,380 --> 00:11:57,420 Bad guys. 179 00:11:59,180 --> 00:12:01,840 They had the face paint. They had the hair. 180 00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:03,480 They had the names. 181 00:12:03,980 --> 00:12:07,640 The only thing they needed was the song. 182 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,160 Their music for the ring entrance, that song would set the tone. 183 00:12:16,260 --> 00:12:18,940 The Road Warriors getting set to move into the ring. 184 00:12:21,130 --> 00:12:23,750 A big, impressive pair of individuals. 185 00:12:24,070 --> 00:12:28,170 You felt like two monsters from hell were coming out of the back of that 186 00:12:28,170 --> 00:12:31,690 dangling dressing room and going to wreak havoc. 187 00:12:33,450 --> 00:12:37,570 When they first came in, you see them, it's just, wow. 188 00:12:41,490 --> 00:12:42,490 Look out. 189 00:12:44,890 --> 00:12:48,930 These two guys were the coolest things that I'd ever seen. 190 00:12:49,710 --> 00:12:50,810 Just badass. 191 00:12:51,470 --> 00:12:54,990 Brother, you talk about vicious, bizarre individuals. 192 00:12:56,170 --> 00:12:58,230 They were taking people's heads off. 193 00:12:59,610 --> 00:13:06,070 It wasn't old school wrestling. Grab a hold, work the hold. 194 00:13:06,410 --> 00:13:09,330 I mean, what happened to professional wrestling? These guys are just rough and 195 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:16,330 tough. Animal and Hawk completely turned the tables over. Now it was slam, bam, 196 00:13:16,570 --> 00:13:18,490 in your face, man. 197 00:13:19,390 --> 00:13:23,090 Y 'all better get used to this, because it's coming down, baby. They were 198 00:13:23,090 --> 00:13:24,090 themselves. 199 00:13:24,210 --> 00:13:25,270 That's who they were. 200 00:13:25,490 --> 00:13:29,490 We did it all our life. We've always got our way. I was slapping people since I 201 00:13:29,490 --> 00:13:31,910 was yea high to a grasshopper. They forgot. 202 00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:35,530 This is not real. This is make -believe. 203 00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:39,990 Ooh, brother. I have never seen anybody as completely vicious and as 204 00:13:39,990 --> 00:13:41,730 overwhelming as a road boy. 205 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,320 They just rolled with it. Once the ball got rolling, it just picked up speed. 206 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,240 You're looking at one of the most dynamic, trend -setting courses in the 207 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,240 of wrestling today. 208 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,900 Where it's going to take us, I cannot tell you. 209 00:13:56,940 --> 00:14:01,460 The Road Warriors were so successful early on that... 210 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:08,960 They were able to work successfully in Georgia Championship Wrestling, in Jim 211 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:14,760 Crockett Promotions, National Wrestling Alliance, and AWA. They were able to do 212 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,080 it all, and it just meant more exposure for the Road Warriors. 213 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,100 At that time, cable TV, that changed everything. 214 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,420 Coming up next, the Road Warriors, right here on ESPN. 215 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:32,540 And cable TV, when it started to spread across the United States, everybody 216 00:14:32,540 --> 00:14:34,380 could see wrestling. 217 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,380 I'm here in Dallas at the Reunion Center. We've got the greatest talent in 218 00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:41,660 world. I've got the Road Warriors, you name it, and they're here tonight. 219 00:14:42,020 --> 00:14:46,580 So it made regular stars superstars. 220 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Would you come here to see the Road Warriors? 221 00:14:49,940 --> 00:14:52,140 I watch these guys get big fast. 222 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,840 I want to see the Road Warriors! 223 00:14:55,210 --> 00:14:59,670 I was like, oh, my God. You know, these guys are monsters now. 224 00:15:00,570 --> 00:15:02,490 And that's when I heard the roar. 225 00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:13,290 The reaction from the fans, it was something 226 00:15:13,290 --> 00:15:14,850 else every night. 227 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:18,270 They were bad apples, bad guys. 228 00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:20,330 But fans loved it. 229 00:15:20,930 --> 00:15:22,450 It was huge. 230 00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:26,550 They had the look that gets the look. 231 00:15:26,910 --> 00:15:28,330 They had the it fat. 232 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:31,710 And they just fed off of each other. 233 00:15:31,930 --> 00:15:34,610 There's got to be a rumble tonight. 234 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:37,170 Because we're the warriors. 235 00:15:37,830 --> 00:15:38,789 That's right. 236 00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:39,910 They had chemistry. 237 00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:42,350 Ying and yang. 238 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:44,270 Tell them, brother. Hey! 239 00:15:44,850 --> 00:15:48,850 Hawk and I had a unique telepathy, man. We were two guys they found in the 240 00:15:48,850 --> 00:15:50,010 wrestling business and put together. 241 00:15:50,540 --> 00:15:53,100 We were two guys that were friends. We bounced. 242 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,360 We worked out together. 243 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:57,640 We'd known each other for years. So I think that gave us a little bit of an 244 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,380 edge. Notice how Hawk and the Animal tag in and tag out. Watch this. 245 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,680 Oh! 246 00:16:03,020 --> 00:16:06,580 It's almost like, I don't know, they were just tied together. 247 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Animal, Hawk, as a team, they were great. These men are the most 248 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,300 team I've seen in my career. 249 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:19,220 But behind the curtain, they were completely opposite. 250 00:16:23,380 --> 00:16:28,500 Joey lived with his mother, but Joe would see him all the time. 251 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,420 He missed him when he was on the road. It was hard. It really was hard for him. 252 00:16:33,540 --> 00:16:40,460 He was a very good father and always wanted to 253 00:16:40,460 --> 00:16:46,060 be with him and see him. And as much as he traveled, he saw Joey as much as 254 00:16:46,060 --> 00:16:49,500 possible. You see life different when you're a parent. 255 00:16:50,540 --> 00:16:55,600 And Hawk didn't have children, so, you know, that was a difference. 256 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,420 I think Joe was more subdued. 257 00:16:59,820 --> 00:17:03,500 Hawk was more of a fiery type of guy, you know. 258 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,980 He would go out at night. 259 00:17:06,339 --> 00:17:08,520 At first it was just drinking. 260 00:17:09,260 --> 00:17:11,980 And Hawk always had a good time. 261 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,300 But Animal was the one that the promotion always knew could reel him 262 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:22,800 make sure that they made their shows and did the things that they were going to 263 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:29,800 do. They were two drastically different 264 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,320 wired people. 265 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,060 Hawk really was able to jump right on that lightning bolt in the life of the 266 00:17:36,060 --> 00:17:38,820 fast lane and turn it up about three more notches. 267 00:17:39,460 --> 00:17:44,760 While in the short term, if one member of a tag team wants to have a certain 268 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,640 lifestyle and the other wants to live a completely opposite lifestyle, 269 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,960 That can be fine, but it's really not sustainable. 270 00:17:52,660 --> 00:17:54,860 Eventually, something could give. 271 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,720 Russia and the United States have always been at it for years and years, and the 272 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,160 Cold War continued in 1985. 273 00:18:14,540 --> 00:18:16,900 Now, for the business. 274 00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:22,370 Immensum. Perfect time for the Russians to come. 275 00:18:24,050 --> 00:18:30,230 Introducing first, from the Soviet Union, Ivan Koloff and 276 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:32,750 Krusher Grushin. 277 00:18:33,370 --> 00:18:38,510 The Great American Bash in 1985 was a huge deal. 278 00:18:38,770 --> 00:18:44,730 You had 27 ,000 Americans, all with one thing in common. 279 00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:46,710 They hated Russia. 280 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:53,070 The Russians, in our culture, they were the bad guys. 281 00:18:54,710 --> 00:19:00,970 And then when you have the road warriors, this 282 00:19:00,970 --> 00:19:07,870 hard American, take no prisoners, and you Russians, you want to try something, 283 00:19:08,050 --> 00:19:10,450 we're just going to knock the L .A. 284 00:19:12,290 --> 00:19:13,850 People wanted... 285 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:18,840 The Russians, to really get beat up, they want the road warriors to beat them 286 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,060 up. The road warriors are our bad guys. 287 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,540 Both teams have been disqualified. A double disqualification. 288 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,520 Even though the match ended in a draw, the road warriors went from being bad 289 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,800 guys to now being good guys. 290 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:50,780 That entire interaction with the Russians ends up making the road 291 00:19:50,780 --> 00:19:51,780 more beloved. 292 00:19:53,780 --> 00:20:00,000 So now 293 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,920 they're more popular in a much better position when it comes to dealing with 294 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,440 guy who decides how much money they'll make, the man with the checkbook, Jim 295 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,960 Crockett. Let's bring in Mr. Jim Crockett, president of Jim Crockett 296 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,860 Animal and Hawk wanted guaranteed contracts. 297 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,680 So we talked to Jimmy, and he was going to come up with a deal. 298 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:29,540 And so before we did the deal, we got ahold of Vince. I got ahold of Vince. 299 00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:33,120 You know they're going to meet with Vince. 300 00:20:33,540 --> 00:20:38,120 Why not? I mean, you know, they're going to go back and forth to see what they 301 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:39,120 can get. 302 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:43,890 Well, you have to remember, the mid-'80s were gigantic for WWE. 303 00:20:44,370 --> 00:20:49,070 The involvement with celebrities like Cyndi Lauper and Mr. T and the eventual 304 00:20:49,070 --> 00:20:55,810 formation of this event called WrestleMania completely transformed WWE 305 00:20:55,810 --> 00:20:59,550 wrestling business as we knew it. And this, of course, plays right into the 306 00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:00,429 Warriors' hands. 307 00:21:00,430 --> 00:21:04,970 They can now threaten Crockett with the idea that they could defect to WWE if 308 00:21:04,970 --> 00:21:05,849 they want to. 309 00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:08,750 We're going to be the ones walking out. You're the ones that are going to be 310 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:14,420 laying. And Vince, he said, I'd really like to have you, but I just can't give 311 00:21:14,420 --> 00:21:15,420 out guarantees. 312 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,220 Nobody here has one. So we said, okay. 313 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,080 And then right before he leaves, he says, you know, I know you're 314 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,080 with Crockett. 315 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:29,440 If you want to use me, you can in the negotiations. 316 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,980 And we went back, and Jimmy came up with a very nice deal for us. 317 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,600 And it was guaranteed. 318 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,980 Mr. Crockett, you've been a very busy man with some very successful 319 00:21:39,980 --> 00:21:42,900 negotiations. I'm a very happy man right now, Jim. 320 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:50,160 Animal and Hawk both got $500 ,000 per year for three 321 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,680 years. And that was money in the bank. You know, nobody was getting that kind 322 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,680 money back then. 323 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Guaranteed. 324 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,640 How would you handle the success and the success they had? 325 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:08,300 There are ways of handling and coping with that success and your choice of how 326 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:09,380 you move forward with this. 327 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,180 You know, they just, a different way of going about doing things. 328 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,760 We actually lived two different lifestyles. 329 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,160 You know, I was Mr. Joe Straight and Narrow, and Hawk was Mr. Whew. 330 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:29,580 Hawk, you know, he enjoyed the nightlife. 331 00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:38,310 He started to become full speed, man. He was searching for good timing most 332 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:39,310 of the time he followed it. 333 00:22:39,810 --> 00:22:45,410 He made no secret about his reputation outside the ring in terms of, you know, 334 00:22:45,410 --> 00:22:46,410 the party life. 335 00:22:46,610 --> 00:22:51,470 I went to the ring and things were kind of hazy. Everything seemed a little bit 336 00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:52,470 slowed down. 337 00:22:52,650 --> 00:22:58,650 But I never saw it impede his performance in the ring. 338 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,900 during that point. 339 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:12,200 So no one knew 340 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,780 at the time that it was going to take on a life of its own and become this 341 00:23:16,780 --> 00:23:18,180 growing issue. 342 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:24,860 Hawk was drinking a lot. 343 00:23:25,340 --> 00:23:27,800 And then, you know, it progressed. 344 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,980 We started obviously doing a lot of substances and stuff. 345 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:49,120 You know, at the time, you don't look at it the way we reflect on it now. 346 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:56,240 There wasn't any real discussion of, hey, you think you should cut back or 347 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:02,360 whatever. Hawk was going to be Hawk, and that's how he rolled and the guys he 348 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:03,360 rolled with. 349 00:24:03,820 --> 00:24:05,460 So we didn't. 350 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,980 really see the dangers and where it was headed. 351 00:24:14,780 --> 00:24:16,100 Joe and I met at the gym. 352 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,160 A friend of mine from high school, we decided we wanted to lift weights, and 353 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,180 were at a club that the women lifted on one side and the men worked out on the 354 00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:28,280 other side, and we would always go to the men's side, and they didn't like 355 00:24:28,660 --> 00:24:32,900 But Joe kind of fought the fight for it, so that was the beginning there. 356 00:24:33,730 --> 00:24:39,770 Very soon after he met her, I could tell he was smitten, as they say. 357 00:24:40,410 --> 00:24:42,430 They were very happy together. 358 00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:48,090 That would eventually lead to marriage. That would eventually lead to James and 359 00:24:48,090 --> 00:24:51,230 Jessica, the two children they would have together. 360 00:24:52,270 --> 00:24:59,250 And even when he married Julie, 361 00:24:59,530 --> 00:25:01,850 he never really lost touch with Joey. 362 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,840 He still had a responsibility to raise him while starting a new family and 363 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,540 eventually raising James and Jessica. 364 00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:18,580 He made sure that we knew that we were loved. Like, family was number 365 00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:20,760 one out of anything that he was doing. 366 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:24,840 I think 367 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:31,640 the most important thing was just, 368 00:25:32,830 --> 00:25:37,070 So when he came home, it was all about family, and Hawk did his own thing. 369 00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:42,910 Oh, Mike is Mike. He's just crazy. 370 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:47,410 But a very caring, extremely caring, loving person. 371 00:25:48,490 --> 00:25:49,770 He had an amazing heart. 372 00:25:50,670 --> 00:25:51,910 Hawk was the best. 373 00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:54,730 To know Hawk is to love Hawk. 374 00:25:55,710 --> 00:25:59,490 One day, we were in midtown New York, and there was a guy. 375 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:06,760 In an alley in Hawk, he stops and he gives a guy $100. 376 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,240 That's the way Hawk was. 377 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,960 He would give you the shirt off his back. 378 00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:19,480 I was in the NWA and I was making like $500, $600 a week. And I got a tax bill. 379 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,740 And it was like $500 for that old back tax. 380 00:26:23,020 --> 00:26:26,100 And Hawk seen me sitting over there. He said, what's the matter? And I said, 381 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:26,879 well, it's Scott. 382 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,780 Stuff I got to take care of. I told him what was going on, and he said, man, 383 00:26:29,820 --> 00:26:36,660 don't worry about it. Gave me 500 bucks for someone at the time whose character 384 00:26:36,660 --> 00:26:38,380 was larger and bigger than life. 385 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,600 The guy, he had a heart. 386 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:45,260 He was a great guy, super nice guy. 387 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,960 But Hawk would go out two, three days at a time and not sleep and party nonstop 388 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,540 with some stimulants and things, yeah. 389 00:26:57,130 --> 00:27:02,010 Three times he was rushed into an ER for drug overdoses. Three times. 390 00:27:02,410 --> 00:27:03,810 O .D. could have died. 391 00:27:04,030 --> 00:27:05,130 Drug overdoses. 392 00:27:06,590 --> 00:27:11,470 A head -on collision with an 18 -wheeler, driving an old pickup truck 393 00:27:11,470 --> 00:27:15,710 seatbelt, and rolled the truck six times and walked away without a scratch. 394 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:22,970 One time, him and a buddy, northern Minnesota, November, cold, snow, icy 395 00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:26,210 lake, falls out of the boat, drunk as a skunk. 396 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,800 He's sinking, sinking, sinking. 397 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:36,400 Mike said he's looking up, and it's pitch dark, and he sees like a pin 398 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,120 And he's like, I don't know what that is, but whatever it is, if I don't make 399 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:44,680 to that pin light, I'm done. Like, I'm dead. 400 00:27:45,060 --> 00:27:46,060 I'm done. 401 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,920 And he gives a last -ditch effort. Well, what it was was his buddy found a 402 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,980 flashlight in the boat and was shining the flashlight. 403 00:27:55,790 --> 00:27:56,790 In the water. 404 00:28:01,970 --> 00:28:06,530 And that's what saved Mike, was the flashlight. 405 00:28:07,850 --> 00:28:13,490 In his effort to get to that pin light, his buddy grabbed him and pulled him in 406 00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:14,490 the boat. 407 00:28:15,090 --> 00:28:18,090 And that saved him that night, that flashlight. 408 00:28:20,770 --> 00:28:24,930 At the time, Joe kind of started to get... 409 00:28:25,150 --> 00:28:26,870 You know, frustrated with Mike. 410 00:28:27,570 --> 00:28:29,610 It got to be a heavy load sometimes. 411 00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:35,850 I wanted to live up to the respect that our name had in the business. 412 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:41,770 But Joe definitely had a loyalty to Mike, a loyalty to the business, and a 413 00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:43,350 loyalty to the Road Warriors. 414 00:28:44,830 --> 00:28:45,830 No matter. 415 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,780 How much Mike started to go off the rail, Joe was able to reel him back in 416 00:28:51,780 --> 00:28:56,700 keep him focused and on track to what, you know, what the ultimate goal for the 417 00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:57,700 two of them was. 418 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,520 A brother can talk to another brother. I mean, come on, we got this opportunity. 419 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Let's, you know, get it and let's get it going. 420 00:29:07,060 --> 00:29:11,720 I think Hawk accepted when there were some things said. You know, he knew what 421 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,340 the deal was and he got in line. But I think they... 422 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,400 They understood each other. 423 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,740 Hawk was there for the match. 424 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,740 Had to have a couple cups of coffee and go. 425 00:29:22,420 --> 00:29:27,420 This event is for the world's tag team championship. 426 00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:31,000 My God, look at this. 427 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:35,860 Their career continued to really just blossom. 428 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,080 They were still hot, real hot. 429 00:29:47,180 --> 00:29:48,180 Hey, 430 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,620 Road Warriors, now you guys are invited to my party Saturday too, you know. We 431 00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:54,300 don't mingle, we mangle. 432 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,060 They were able to take this meteor rise to the top and stay on top. 433 00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:02,920 The number one team in wrestling, of course, the incomparable Road Warriors. 434 00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:07,980 The early Road Warrior days, you know, first they didn't have the shoulder 435 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,780 but then they really dialed it in, right? They got those shoulder pads. 436 00:30:12,970 --> 00:30:13,970 Spikes on him. 437 00:30:14,350 --> 00:30:15,430 It was amazing. 438 00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:18,370 I loved it. It was hardcore, Dad. 439 00:30:19,270 --> 00:30:25,150 And then I think Mike's wit came out on the interviews. 440 00:30:25,610 --> 00:30:27,630 We live life on the edge. 441 00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:29,470 What a rush. 442 00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:31,330 Oh, what a rush. 443 00:30:31,670 --> 00:30:34,410 Hawk came up with it. It was in a movie. 444 00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:44,270 It was great. Fans loved it. 445 00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:50,790 By this point, the Road Warriors are just that tag team. They're clicking on 446 00:30:50,790 --> 00:30:52,510 cylinders, hot as can be. 447 00:30:52,730 --> 00:30:53,730 Road Warriors! 448 00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:58,250 They're number one! They're the champs! The Warriors! 449 00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:01,350 You know, they had conquered the AWA. 450 00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:06,610 You know, there was the NWA and then WCW and the WWE. 451 00:31:06,890 --> 00:31:09,170 I think it's something that they always wanted. 452 00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:10,590 There's only one. 453 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,320 to measure your success and tag team wrestling and that to go up against the 454 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,460 best so you know how you rate. 455 00:31:18,660 --> 00:31:23,040 At that particular time, we needed to take the next step and go to the Big 456 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,480 Daddy, which everybody was calling the WWE, the Big Daddy, and make our 457 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,480 there. 458 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:37,980 The guys wanted to leave for WWE because pride has to drive you and you're proud 459 00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:39,900 that you are the best. 460 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,300 You're proud that nobody else can do what you do. 461 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,460 And I said, you guys go, but I'm going to finish out my contract. 462 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,780 Because I've always been a man of my word. 463 00:31:56,660 --> 00:31:59,400 So it was time to go separate ways. 464 00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:01,880 It was tough. 465 00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:04,540 Because I'm the dad. 466 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:07,600 And they're my boys. 467 00:32:10,060 --> 00:32:14,820 And that's what started the ball rolling to move on. 468 00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:22,840 I love Vince McMahon. Welcome to the superstars of wrestling. 469 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:29,960 Vince McMahon wanted to get the Road Warriors up to the WWE, but they had 470 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,800 such a good deal and the money they were making that the WWE couldn't match 471 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040 because Vince did not guarantee money. 472 00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:45,680 but the Road Warriors had already hit the ceiling at WCW, so they decided at 473 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,040 that point to make the move to WWE so that they could be more than what they 474 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:57,320 were. They call themselves the Legion of 475 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:04,080 Doom! The Road Warriors was a name that was associated with the movie, so 476 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,080 it was... 477 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:11,600 difficult to clear legally, and since WWE being a global company, you want to 478 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,840 have a name that you can clear, and Legion of Doom was something that we 479 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,840 get cleared. 480 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:22,960 When 481 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:29,840 they did 482 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,620 arrive, they... 483 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,120 took the place by storm they 484 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:45,060 just 485 00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:50,580 went out there and just ran through people they beat the hell out of 486 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:54,540 they got in the ring with the only reason they beat the hell out of 487 00:33:54,540 --> 00:33:56,920 was they didn't know what else to do 488 00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:11,860 Both, Joe and Mike, they were intense as hell. But when you get them out of the 489 00:34:11,860 --> 00:34:16,420 ring, they were also wonderful people. 490 00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:18,540 How's the food here, Joe? 491 00:34:19,540 --> 00:34:21,340 Any limitations? 492 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,360 Mike enjoyed being around fans. 493 00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:43,880 He had a heart of gold. 494 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,760 That's just the kind of guy he was. He had a heart that was bigger than 495 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,960 He could light up a room when he came in there, I don't know, for whatever 496 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,960 reason. 497 00:35:04,940 --> 00:35:11,660 Great guy, but Mike had demons that would prevent him from making good 498 00:35:11,660 --> 00:35:12,660 choices. 499 00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:22,880 It just got to the point where in the 90s, it was total excess, everything he 500 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,880 did, you know. 501 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,900 If we'd go out drinking, it would just, he would drink to the point where, you 502 00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:31,160 know, he would just not stop. 503 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,940 It was tough to watch sometimes. 504 00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:38,560 Luke the Bushwalker had a beach house. 505 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,840 The pool was behind the townhouses. 506 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,020 and people would put lawn chairs on this side of the pool, and the beach was out 507 00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:53,620 there. So they had their bags to the pool, and they were hooking out on the 508 00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:59,240 beach. And so when my wife and I pulled up, I see Hawk crawling towards the deep 509 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,240 end of the pool. 510 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,860 I think he's just screwing around, you know, having fun. 511 00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:06,380 I saw him, like, go in the deep end of the pool and slither and slide down the 512 00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:07,380 pool like a snake. 513 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,920 I was getting my bags out of the car, and as I walked by, he's on the bottom 514 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,920 the pool. 515 00:36:13,970 --> 00:36:15,710 there, like, sleeping on the bottom of the pool. 516 00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:19,830 So my wife said, oh, my God, is he playing around? She goes, no, go get 517 00:36:20,650 --> 00:36:25,410 So I went, I got him and pulled him out of the pool, and I guess he'd eaten a 518 00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:28,050 bunch of things that were putting him to sleep, you know. 519 00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:33,350 And that was a real close call that time. But I got him out of the pool, and 520 00:36:33,350 --> 00:36:38,010 they resuscitated him and got him going. And that was the beginning of I knew we 521 00:36:38,010 --> 00:36:39,490 had a problem on our hands. 522 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:49,140 Even though Mike had his vices and his challenges, still at that point, Joe was 523 00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:50,700 incredibly loyal to Mike. 524 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,700 Joe developed a real love in his heart for Mike. You know, he certainly wasn't 525 00:36:55,700 --> 00:37:02,700 happy with his choices, but that love for Mike and not giving up on him or 526 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:04,600 throwing in the towel and saying, you know what, dude. 527 00:37:05,070 --> 00:37:09,250 I'm tired of your antics. I'm tired of your life. I'm done. 528 00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:13,550 I'm out of here. You go your way. I'll go my way. But that wasn't Joe. 529 00:37:15,110 --> 00:37:21,990 It was the bond that's built and forged in those early 530 00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:28,370 years when they didn't have all the money and building their relationship 531 00:37:28,370 --> 00:37:29,370 together. 532 00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:32,510 Joe wasn't willing to throw in the towel. 533 00:37:32,970 --> 00:37:33,970 Saw. 534 00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:40,590 An opportunity of hope that Mike could make a lifestyle change. 535 00:37:42,190 --> 00:37:47,090 And it was thought with Hawk hitting a couple speed bumps, he'd straighten out. 536 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:52,410 But he really didn't. It kind of kept getting worse. 537 00:37:55,970 --> 00:38:02,690 At the time, Mike failed the test, and the test was for illegal 538 00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:03,690 drugs. 539 00:38:05,290 --> 00:38:06,290 He needs help. 540 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:12,810 We need to get him out of here, and we'll do whatever it takes to help him 541 00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:14,010 get him on the road back. 542 00:38:15,570 --> 00:38:20,350 We tried rehab, but he just didn't do it. 543 00:38:21,890 --> 00:38:26,790 After Hawk failed a drug test, the WWE had to suspend him. 544 00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:32,470 They tried to send him to rehab, but Hawk would not go. He had become a full 545 00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:33,550 -blown addict. 546 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,480 and the only one who didn't realize it was Hawk. 547 00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:41,800 Okay, does everybody understand why we're here today? 548 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,760 That's right, we're here to talk about drugs. 549 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,460 Drugs are going to get you nowhere. 550 00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:51,140 All drugs do is ruin you. 551 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,480 They make life real hard. 552 00:38:55,060 --> 00:38:58,720 And instead of going forward, you end up going backwards. 553 00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:05,310 We did an intervention at one point in time. 554 00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:11,750 We sat down with him and just told him how much we love him and are concerned 555 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:13,390 for him and his health. 556 00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:19,930 We were hoping that he would listen and get some help, that this was not 557 00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:26,490 something he could do on his own and get some help, and he 558 00:39:26,490 --> 00:39:29,330 didn't. 559 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,620 He was not ready. 560 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:40,320 I think that with Hawk, the way they used to do interventions was not going 561 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,540 work from the beginning because he's stubborn, and I think when they said you 562 00:39:43,540 --> 00:39:48,580 can't or you need to or you should, he went, oh, yeah, I'll show you, because 563 00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:52,220 that was how he was. And so I think he would run the other direction. 564 00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:59,460 Hawk, at that particular time, he was making money. One of the top... 565 00:39:59,710 --> 00:40:01,950 Tag teams, if not the top in the world. 566 00:40:02,510 --> 00:40:06,910 Everything you want, you've got, that you've worked for your whole life. 567 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:11,490 So who knows what's really going on with somebody's mind or what's happening 568 00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:12,490 inside of you. 569 00:40:12,970 --> 00:40:16,030 I don't know why it turned out the way I did. 570 00:40:17,070 --> 00:40:24,070 His personality was just, and I think that is a trait probably in the Higgs 571 00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:27,050 family, there's a bit of it, of addictions. 572 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:34,560 And then you had money and you had fame and you had an image to be the wild guy. 573 00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:45,220 And, you know, a lot of us will have the thing, the little voice that goes off 574 00:40:45,220 --> 00:40:51,980 that says stop. And Mike didn't. And a lot of that was 575 00:40:51,980 --> 00:40:54,340 fueled by being Hawk. 576 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:06,380 He probably had been fine if he'd stayed in North Minneapolis and had been more 577 00:41:06,380 --> 00:41:13,100 grounded. But I think Road Warrior Hawk kind of took over. 578 00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:15,980 And he locked himself in there somewhere. 579 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,960 You know, there were times when he would come home and he was high and you just, 580 00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:30,640 you didn't really want to be around him. 581 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:40,920 So it was a sad time because you just knew this wasn't going in a good 582 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,920 direction. 583 00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:59,910 At the time, Legion of Doom, they were popular. 584 00:42:00,190 --> 00:42:01,670 They were very popular. 585 00:42:02,050 --> 00:42:06,430 Legion of Doom with the opportunity of a lifetime tonight as they meet the nasty 586 00:42:06,430 --> 00:42:09,270 boys for the World Wrestling Federation tag team titles. 587 00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:10,770 They were attractions. 588 00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:13,230 They drew money. 589 00:42:13,790 --> 00:42:20,770 And they delivered when they got into the 590 00:42:20,770 --> 00:42:21,770 ring. 591 00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:09,300 That SummerSlam of 1991 really was the pinnacle of everything that those two 592 00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:10,300 accomplished. 593 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,900 That was the peak. 594 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,620 What a moment for Legion of Doom! 595 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,980 Legion of Doom getting those tag titles in WWE, that's a big deal. 596 00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:23,880 At that point, Legion of Doom were it. 597 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,400 Here we are at Toys R Us and it's the Legion of Doom! 598 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,760 Oh yeah, dude! 599 00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:38,030 You know, they had other business going. They had, like, their own clothing 600 00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:42,790 line. This company not only has a good product, it has a great gimmick. They're 601 00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:45,110 partners in a company called Zubaz. 602 00:43:45,530 --> 00:43:49,670 Those pants were one of the most popular pieces of apparel, like, in the world. 603 00:43:49,890 --> 00:43:53,310 Their company grossed about $20 million last year. 604 00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:57,270 They were kind of like pioneers, you know, parlaying their fame into other 605 00:43:57,270 --> 00:44:00,050 ventures. They were in it together with everything. 606 00:44:00,570 --> 00:44:06,190 As for Hawk and Animal, they've learned how to succeed inside the ring and out, 607 00:44:06,290 --> 00:44:09,990 and they have no intention of losing in either one. 608 00:44:14,310 --> 00:44:20,950 At the time, Hawk was still struggling with his demons, and I 609 00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:25,750 think his lifestyle was taking a toll on him for sure, mentally and physically. 610 00:44:27,610 --> 00:44:28,990 Joe, what's his babysitter? 611 00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:34,120 You know, he would try really hard, but it got to the point where he's like, I 612 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,720 can't babysit anymore. 613 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,640 Paul Ellery, welcome to WrestleMania. 614 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,820 I have returned! 615 00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:50,420 Animal felt that Hawk was better when I was around. 616 00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:55,120 They said, well, it sure would be nice to have you back, and next thing you 617 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,120 know, I got a phone call. 618 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,460 Paul was also a great role model for them, and so I think with Hawk, I think 619 00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:06,460 that they were kind of hoping that maybe the two of them together could kind of, 620 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,580 you know, hone him in a little bit. 621 00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:17,540 At that time, Paul Ellering had a brilliant idea. 622 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:26,580 He brought out a dummy, Rocco, who was supposedly their long 623 00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:28,550 -lost... childhood doll. 624 00:45:28,850 --> 00:45:30,470 What is this? 625 00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:38,150 Animal. Hey, what is this? That's Rocko. And now Rocko the dummy was 626 00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:42,330 supposedly going to inspire Hawk and Animal, take them to higher heights. 627 00:45:42,570 --> 00:45:46,890 All this rubble, we got one piece of memory left. 628 00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:53,710 By then, their biggest positive, money -wise, was their merchandise sales. 629 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,660 Well, I wanted something that would help sell a lot of merchandise. 630 00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:02,060 And I thought we could do that with Rocco dolls. 631 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,980 Remember the Rocco thing? We didn't even talk about that, right? 632 00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:08,660 Oh, man. 633 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,740 Can I take him? I want to take him to the ring. 634 00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:14,540 He can be our mascot. Let's take him everywhere. 635 00:46:14,780 --> 00:46:17,180 I can't believe an animal after all these years. 636 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,280 I remember talking to Joe at the time how much he couldn't stand that dummy. 637 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:31,420 Both Hawk and Animal hated that dummy. 638 00:46:31,780 --> 00:46:34,120 Hey, check out the haircut. 639 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:40,420 I would like to point out, I had absolutely nothing to do with Rocco. 640 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,220 Oh, you guys have sure changed. 641 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,800 I gotta tell you, I thought it was rotten. 642 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,520 I'm sorry, it was rotten. 643 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,020 Rocco did not belong with the Legion of Doom. 644 00:46:58,620 --> 00:47:01,380 You got these two badasses. 645 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,960 Hi, 646 00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:08,580 I'm Rocco. I'm your friend from when you were a little kid. 647 00:47:08,780 --> 00:47:13,560 It just made absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. 648 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,120 The development wasn't there. 649 00:47:17,420 --> 00:47:21,780 It didn't get what it needed from creatives. 650 00:47:22,350 --> 00:47:25,050 We are the merchants of destruction. 651 00:47:26,070 --> 00:47:28,690 I would have fought to the death to not do that. 652 00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:33,390 Eventually, Rocco somehow disappeared. 653 00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:35,710 Trevor. 654 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:57,800 SummerSlam 92 was gigantic for the WWE because it was truly an international 655 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:03,460 event. This was the beginning of the WWE going worldwide. 656 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,860 82 ,000 people in Wembley Stadium in England. 657 00:48:08,620 --> 00:48:10,780 I mean, that's a WrestleMania crowd. 658 00:48:11,740 --> 00:48:18,440 If you mess up the WWE, they don't look at you the same way. 659 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:24,240 They're sticking millions of dollars of investment money in you. 660 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,460 And we built up to it so much, months and months of interviews and time spent, 661 00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:32,000 because you want it to be nothing but the best. 662 00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:33,560 It's just going to be the big thing. 663 00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:37,080 Money, Inc. against Hawk and Animal in the Road Wars. It's going to be a big 664 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,480 night for us, and we're all excited. 665 00:48:38,940 --> 00:48:42,820 It's SummerSlam! It's SummerSlam! And I can't wait, baby! Legion of Doom, don't 666 00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:46,120 think this is a chance for you to get even with Money Incorporated and IRS. 667 00:48:46,660 --> 00:48:48,760 These are two of our major tag teams, you know? 668 00:48:49,060 --> 00:48:51,260 Two of the biggest tag teams we've ever had up there. 669 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:57,880 But then we get ready to go, and Ellering comes to me and he goes, Oh, my 670 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,460 said, What's wrong? He goes, It's Hawk. 671 00:49:00,140 --> 00:49:01,580 He was not in good shape. 672 00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:09,790 How much do you want me to tell you about that night? 673 00:49:12,130 --> 00:49:18,250 He was really unhappy with that little puppet thing that they had going at that 674 00:49:18,250 --> 00:49:22,350 time and seemed to be in a very self -destructive mood. 675 00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:29,290 Hawk was by the sink and he just took about four or five Placidyls and threw 676 00:49:29,290 --> 00:49:30,290 them in his mouth. 677 00:49:30,990 --> 00:49:36,630 I've never taken a Placidyl, but for sedating a horse or elephant or 678 00:49:36,990 --> 00:49:38,590 You take enough of them, I'm sure they'll kill you. 679 00:49:39,550 --> 00:49:41,390 I remember he stuck them out on his tongue. 680 00:49:42,430 --> 00:49:47,650 They were all stuck to his tongue, and then he just downed it with a drink. 681 00:49:48,430 --> 00:49:50,430 That's like suicide. Like, what are you doing? 682 00:49:52,770 --> 00:49:58,430 What was terrifying was riding the motorcycle out, because he was in no 683 00:49:58,430 --> 00:49:59,430 do that. 684 00:50:02,170 --> 00:50:03,170 It wasn't good. 685 00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:10,420 Hawk was just a train wreck that day. 686 00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:13,360 I'm not sure Hawk ever knows where he's at right now. 687 00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:19,040 With Hawk, you never knew what you were going to get. So we dealt with that as 688 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,000 best we could, and that's all I can say about it. 689 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,880 It doesn't look much like Hawk. To me, it looks more like an old dirty pigeon. 690 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,220 I felt so bad for Joe. 691 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,260 Imagine how frustrating that is for an animal who's looking on. Sometimes Hawk, 692 00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:35,600 as a partner, really failed him. Ring the bell! 693 00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:43,320 When you're a team, it's so important that one half of that team doesn't let 694 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,320 other half down. 695 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,920 Everything with your career is tied in with his. 696 00:50:48,740 --> 00:50:52,900 With Hawk, everybody really jumped in to try to cover up what was going through 697 00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:53,900 and happening with him. 698 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:05,740 So we kind of pulled it 699 00:51:05,740 --> 00:51:06,740 out. 700 00:51:24,970 --> 00:51:27,830 You know, I wish it could have been a lot better looking back if we could have 701 00:51:27,830 --> 00:51:28,830 done it over again. 702 00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:33,970 Animal, Joe, he was very disappointed. 703 00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,330 Joe was a very proud man. 704 00:51:38,270 --> 00:51:42,690 He lived the road warrior gimmick. He was proud of that. 705 00:51:42,910 --> 00:51:49,310 And now for it to be tarnished, that did not sit good with him. 706 00:51:51,170 --> 00:51:54,530 After the match, Joe and I met at the airport. 707 00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:56,610 Hawk's not here. 708 00:51:57,470 --> 00:51:58,770 We flew back. 709 00:51:59,750 --> 00:52:03,810 At the next TV taping, which was shortly after that event, 710 00:52:04,830 --> 00:52:06,470 Joe Laurinaitis is there. 711 00:52:07,390 --> 00:52:08,630 Animal's ready to go. 712 00:52:09,050 --> 00:52:14,090 Here is Animal of Legion of Doom! 713 00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:18,750 Hawk's nowhere to be found. 714 00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:28,400 After SummerSlam, Hawk, he just walked away. 715 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,520 Where's Hawk? I don't know. 716 00:52:31,820 --> 00:52:32,820 Where is he? 717 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,440 After that show, Hawk went. 718 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:43,720 He met up with some bikers in England, and he disappeared for, I don't know, 719 00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:44,720 or three weeks. 720 00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:48,760 He disappeared, and there was all kinds of rumors that he had taken off with the 721 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,400 Hells Angels, and it was just nobody knew. 722 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,920 No one had heard from him. 723 00:52:55,340 --> 00:52:59,540 The last known place that he had landed was in Amsterdam. 724 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,640 Well, Hawk, he was a cat who had 13 lives. 725 00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:08,700 I knew he'd be alive. 726 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,140 I just didn't know where, and I was hoping he wouldn't get hurt. 727 00:53:16,940 --> 00:53:21,540 Then, finally, he had his lawyer drop something where he wasn't coming back to 728 00:53:21,540 --> 00:53:22,540 WWE. 729 00:53:26,180 --> 00:53:30,240 Hawk had called and talked to Vince, the secretary at the time, and said, this 730 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:31,240 is Hawk. 731 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,680 I've had enough. I quit. 732 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,880 And that was it. 733 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:42,540 It's hard to say why Hawk would just walk out on WWE at that time. 734 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:49,420 Despite whatever at SummerSlam 92, despite Rocco the dummy, the Legion of 735 00:53:49,420 --> 00:53:50,800 were on top of the world. 736 00:53:51,380 --> 00:53:57,140 But when you have this side of you that is just... desperate to rebel, it 737 00:53:57,140 --> 00:53:59,600 becomes real hard to silence that side. 738 00:54:00,660 --> 00:54:04,460 Now, everything they built up is gone. 739 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,080 Joel, he was disappointed. 740 00:54:08,860 --> 00:54:10,000 He was hurt. 741 00:54:10,860 --> 00:54:12,160 He was angry. 742 00:54:13,620 --> 00:54:15,120 He was devastated. 743 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,880 He was mad. 744 00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:20,720 Hey, I've got a family. 745 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,100 You know, I have kids. 746 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,840 Animal said, I'm so disappointed. I am so hurt. We got a great tag team. We're 747 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,040 the biggest company in the world. And now he goes and pulls this. 748 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,540 He said, that hurts not only him, but it hurts me. It hurts my family. It hurts 749 00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:36,540 everybody. 750 00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:39,060 Felt like I was being deserted by my partner. 751 00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:44,940 He forgot that we're a team, and he made a personal decision which affected a 752 00:54:44,940 --> 00:54:49,180 team. And you can't do that when you're a member of a team. There's no I in 753 00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:50,180 team. 754 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,200 So now... 755 00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:56,220 Hulk's gone, and all of a sudden this partner's dangling out there by himself, 756 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,000 and they had to put him with other members and single matches. 757 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,680 Joe never really made it as a solo performer. 758 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,960 I think people looked at it as a lesser -than version. 759 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:17,120 It just didn't work, because people wanted the original Road Warriors, the 760 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,480 original Legion of Doom. 761 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,920 You separate them. 762 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,920 They're just not as good as the sum of both parts. 763 00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:29,080 So, Animal needed Hawk. 764 00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:32,940 Joe, on his own, didn't have as much success. 765 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,160 That's just the way it was. 766 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,700 It just wasn't as important to Hawk. 767 00:55:39,220 --> 00:55:44,220 Hawk didn't need Joe as much as Joe needed Hawk. 768 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,020 I ain't saying that on camera because, like, you know. 769 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,320 He was going to try to make it work. 770 00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:58,540 But I can't imagine him not being with Hawk. 771 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:09,820 At that point, Hawk decides to go to Japan and tag with Japanese wrestler Ken 772 00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:10,820 Sasaki. 773 00:56:11,340 --> 00:56:16,580 When Hawk went to Japan with Sasaki, they did a road warrior clone. 774 00:56:19,180 --> 00:56:23,300 Joe was very, very upset about it. Kind of like a stab in the back, you know. 775 00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:28,500 I wasn't sure at that point that they would ever, you know, would ever be back 776 00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:29,319 to normal. 777 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,760 You know, you can make that right. 778 00:56:31,420 --> 00:56:34,060 It kind of had maybe taken a little bit too far. 779 00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:39,540 Hawk being heavy in his addiction at the time, instead of saying, hey, I screwed 780 00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:44,520 up and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, he just went, oh, I didn't do 781 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,520 anything wrong. 782 00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:48,740 At that point, I was really pissed at him. 783 00:56:49,660 --> 00:56:52,860 I wasn't so much against him doing it. I was against him going without asking me 784 00:56:52,860 --> 00:56:53,900 to go with him. 785 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,480 He should know after all those years that anybody that was going to have his 786 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,480 back was going to be me. 787 00:56:59,660 --> 00:57:04,480 At the time Joe had injured his back, that one was pretty bad. 788 00:57:04,740 --> 00:57:08,360 You know, it's one of those where you're like, do I keep going or should I maybe 789 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,360 take some time off? 790 00:57:09,620 --> 00:57:10,620 And I think... 791 00:57:11,050 --> 00:57:15,350 With the situation that was going on with Hawk and with him having to do 792 00:57:15,350 --> 00:57:19,230 singles, and it was just kind of a perfect storm for a perfect time off. 793 00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:22,010 Put your arms up, James. 794 00:57:23,810 --> 00:57:26,270 Hey, like Daddy does in the ring. 795 00:57:26,590 --> 00:57:29,050 At that time, he was away from wrestling. 796 00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:33,590 Every game, every practice, any school event, anything that we were doing, he 797 00:57:33,590 --> 00:57:34,590 was just always there. 798 00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:38,650 I just think it's... 799 00:57:39,210 --> 00:57:41,370 A true testament as to who he was. 800 00:57:41,850 --> 00:57:42,850 He was a dad. 801 00:57:44,970 --> 00:57:51,390 As far as Joe and Mike go, I would say that it was probably over a year 802 00:57:51,390 --> 00:57:57,070 that they did not speak to one another because of that stab in the back, you 803 00:57:57,070 --> 00:57:59,970 know. Joe was very hurt by it, very upset by it. 804 00:58:01,050 --> 00:58:04,030 So we talked a lot about, you know, quitting. 805 00:58:04,530 --> 00:58:07,030 We talked about, you know, getting a normal job. 806 00:58:09,090 --> 00:58:14,990 That pull, I think, of being Road Warrior Animal and the business was just 807 00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:15,990 strong. 808 00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:23,570 Mike realized that the beauty of them was together, not separate. 809 00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:36,830 It's almost like they got divorced, but they needed to reunite. 810 00:58:37,130 --> 00:58:40,330 to get back together again because they were meant to be kind of a thing. 811 00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:45,110 But I think they were just drawn, drawn to the business, drawn to each other. 812 00:58:45,530 --> 00:58:48,270 It's like, you know, having a fight with your brother, you know. 813 00:58:49,010 --> 00:58:52,010 You're mad at each other for a while, and you make up because you love each 814 00:58:52,010 --> 00:58:53,010 other, you know. 815 00:58:53,350 --> 00:58:55,310 So they loved each other. 816 00:58:56,770 --> 00:58:57,770 They were brothers. 817 00:58:59,010 --> 00:59:00,990 No matter what happens, you're brothers. 818 00:59:03,490 --> 00:59:05,250 It was a blood thing with them. 819 00:59:06,690 --> 00:59:11,450 It took Hoff to learn for a while who his true best friend in the wrestling 820 00:59:11,450 --> 00:59:13,190 business was, and it was me all along. 821 00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:16,590 Because I stuck with him through thick and thin. I stuck with him because I 822 00:59:16,590 --> 00:59:19,590 believed in him. And he was my partner, and I loved him, and I grew up with him. 823 00:59:19,630 --> 00:59:22,890 I grew in the business with him. My family learned to love him and grew with 824 00:59:22,890 --> 00:59:23,828 and loved him. 825 00:59:23,830 --> 00:59:27,010 So I said, let's just try it again and see what happens. 826 00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:41,640 In 1996, we met with both of them, and Animal and Hawk seemed 827 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:47,400 like they were in a really good place, and they expressed to us the desire that 828 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,280 they really did want to come back. 829 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,620 Coming up next, we have a huge surprise right here on Raw. 830 00:59:54,980 --> 00:59:58,680 It was one of those, look, we're going to try this. If it works, great. 831 00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:02,060 If it doesn't work, then we're going to cut bait. 832 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:24,940 It's cool when you've established yourself to a point that you can go away 833 01:00:24,940 --> 01:00:25,940 be missed. 834 01:00:28,660 --> 01:00:35,100 And then when you come back, people are super hyped to see, oh my God, these are 835 01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:36,100 my guys, they're bad. 836 01:00:37,819 --> 01:00:42,420 And that energy carries, and they still have the same energy, just like they 837 01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:43,420 never left. 838 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,060 For me, it was even cooler because I just hadn't seen them in a while. 839 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,740 LOD had some great moments when they came back in 1997. 840 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,160 Winning the tag titles. 841 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,620 To see them in the ring together was fun. 842 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,320 And their charisma was so good with each other and the wrestling, good 843 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:16,060 wrestling. But for me, I think it was more about the trust. 844 01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:18,280 Can we trust him? 845 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,880 Are we going to be able to trust that he's going to show up or that he's going 846 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:23,880 to be sober? 847 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,700 Animal gave Hawk another shot because they were so closely bonded together. 848 01:01:31,780 --> 01:01:34,960 But Animal sort of was... 849 01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:38,050 waiting for the next meltdown for Hawk. 850 01:01:39,570 --> 01:01:43,630 You know, it's like nobody could stop it. He was going to self -destruct, he 851 01:01:43,630 --> 01:01:46,470 going to self -destruct, and it didn't matter what the consequences were. 852 01:01:46,850 --> 01:01:51,770 It didn't matter how it affected everything else that maybe Joe had on 853 01:01:52,530 --> 01:01:55,910 Like, whatever happens to Hawk affects him. 854 01:01:56,850 --> 01:01:58,670 That was kind of the sad part about it. 855 01:02:01,850 --> 01:02:05,190 Hawk was really, like, he was going through a rough spell then. 856 01:02:07,070 --> 01:02:11,310 It just made you sad, you know, and you try to look out for him because he was 857 01:02:11,310 --> 01:02:12,770 the kind that would look out for you. 858 01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:18,850 It's Hawk, man. He deserves our respect, and we need to look out for him. 859 01:02:23,970 --> 01:02:27,450 Sometimes it's a good thing to work in. 860 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:35,120 real -life situations into the creative because you can feel it and it 861 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,120 is real. 862 01:02:36,580 --> 01:02:43,520 In this particular case, we took Hawk's real -life 863 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:49,240 addiction and real -life issues that he was dealing with on a daily basis and 864 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,380 put it on screen. 865 01:02:51,020 --> 01:02:53,260 He's walking drunk, it looks like. 866 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,560 Not only falling off the wagon, but the wagon is running over. 867 01:02:58,900 --> 01:02:59,940 I hate it. 868 01:03:01,980 --> 01:03:08,640 I hate it when they use this addiction and storyline stuff. 869 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:14,560 It was 870 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:20,200 painful. You know, it was painful. 871 01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:25,200 It didn't help him with any issues. 872 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,920 It was just like, what are you doing? 873 01:03:29,180 --> 01:03:30,180 Look at you! 874 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,000 Look at you! I didn't like it. 875 01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:35,540 And I know Animal didn't like it. 876 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,660 Things he had them doing on live on TV. 877 01:03:38,860 --> 01:03:42,820 He said, this is too close to home, man. This is opening up some old wounds 878 01:03:42,820 --> 01:03:43,820 we're trying to put away. 879 01:03:44,460 --> 01:03:49,020 I don't think Hawk can even defend himself here. And if Hawk would have 880 01:03:49,020 --> 01:03:50,640 don't like it, well, that would have been perfect. 881 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,040 But he said, I'll do it. 882 01:03:52,420 --> 01:03:53,600 So we did it. 883 01:03:55,300 --> 01:04:02,240 In addition to that, we introduced another character in Draws where the 884 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:08,920 if Hawk can't work, because Hawk was dealing with issues, well, you've got 885 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:14,740 Draws that can now be a part of the Legion of Doom with Animal. 886 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,600 Nice teamwork there by Draws and Animal. 887 01:04:18,430 --> 01:04:22,450 Remember Hawk from his problem with painkillers is now an alternate. 888 01:04:22,950 --> 01:04:29,050 Anytime you do that, it doesn't work. The audience doesn't accept it. They 889 01:04:29,050 --> 01:04:30,050 the original. 890 01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:35,690 Well, let's just say that dwelling on the past is something the old LOD would 891 01:04:35,690 --> 01:04:38,050 do. They want their guys, man. 892 01:04:39,410 --> 01:04:41,750 Draws and Animal were not the Legion of Doom. 893 01:04:42,170 --> 01:04:43,990 Oh, what a rush. 894 01:04:44,450 --> 01:04:47,190 Hawk, you know, like, he wasn't happy. 895 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:49,920 He was trying to be a pro. 896 01:04:51,420 --> 01:04:54,660 There's Hawk right there. What is he doing? I thought he was going to come 897 01:04:54,680 --> 01:05:01,160 He's climbing up on the Titan Tron. The storyline culminated when Hawk is now 898 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,060 threatening to jump off the Titan Tron. 899 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,240 Hawk has threatened to jump. 900 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:12,800 Droz climbs up to help Hawk to get him down. Get up! 901 01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:16,700 And then they do this thing where Droz puts his hands on Hawk. 902 01:05:17,259 --> 01:05:19,020 Don't touch it! Don't touch it! 903 01:05:19,740 --> 01:05:22,560 Get his shirt! Oh! 904 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:24,520 Every 905 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:31,980 fan 906 01:05:31,980 --> 01:05:38,540 hated it, I think, and as a family, it bothered me, you know, but I guess I 907 01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:41,140 thought there might have been a better ending to it than how it ended. 908 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,940 The audience didn't believe it. 909 01:05:45,260 --> 01:05:52,260 And the audience didn't want it. And as far as Hawk went, the 910 01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:54,500 audience just felt sad for Hawk. 911 01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:01,960 This character who was once just this invincible force of 912 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,240 pure and utter destruction is now almost pathetic. 913 01:06:07,220 --> 01:06:10,980 It was another negative to be brought up. 914 01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:14,580 And when you lose your respect, 915 01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:20,280 And your pride, that's a lot in this business. 916 01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:26,940 Maybe a look at reality is the end here. 917 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,960 If it isn't, it's close. 918 01:06:35,420 --> 01:06:42,360 The sad fact was, 919 01:06:44,170 --> 01:06:46,590 Legion of Doom wasn't the Legion of Doom anymore. 920 01:06:47,770 --> 01:06:50,430 Father Time does no jobs. 921 01:06:51,150 --> 01:06:54,090 And Father Time, it hit them. 922 01:06:55,270 --> 01:07:01,090 And during that time period, the Attitude Era is exploding. 923 01:07:01,490 --> 01:07:08,190 There's new massive stars that are popping up every single week on Monday 924 01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:11,250 Raw. So the Legion of Doom... 925 01:07:11,770 --> 01:07:16,330 I think they were more looked at as kind of a washed -up old team because this 926 01:07:16,330 --> 01:07:17,510 is now a young man's time. 927 01:07:21,850 --> 01:07:27,370 They would have made a nice little year or two run and retire as champs, you 928 01:07:27,370 --> 01:07:28,870 know, in a fairytale world. 929 01:07:29,250 --> 01:07:32,630 But unfortunately, you know, we don't live in a fairytale world and that's not 930 01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:33,630 going to happen. 931 01:07:34,670 --> 01:07:37,970 So, unfortunately, we left WWE. 932 01:07:40,330 --> 01:07:44,950 When their contracts weren't renewed, they were not quite ready to hang up the 933 01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:46,990 boots. They hit the independents. 934 01:07:50,590 --> 01:07:55,690 In 2000, Hawk and Animal are bouncing around the independent circuit in 935 01:07:55,690 --> 01:07:56,690 Australia. 936 01:07:57,370 --> 01:08:03,670 And one night, Hawk collapses with a medical emergency, a heart issue. 937 01:08:05,810 --> 01:08:07,630 It was the toll of all the drugs. 938 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,180 that he had done over the years and not taking care of himself the way he should 939 01:08:12,180 --> 01:08:13,180 have. 940 01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:16,020 Animal got him to the hospital. 941 01:08:16,460 --> 01:08:18,899 They wanted to keep him. They wouldn't let him out. 942 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:25,160 And Animal took him out because Hawk said, I can't stay here. I just can't. I 943 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,560 don't want to die here. 944 01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:29,420 And he lived in Florida now. 945 01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:36,380 So Animal flew him back to Tampa, and Animal went back to Minneapolis. 946 01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:39,800 And that was it. 947 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,220 Mike was looking at life after wrestling and trying to figure out what to do. 948 01:08:48,540 --> 01:08:53,439 Announcing or doing something and trying to figure out next steps. 949 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,060 He was working out with me every morning. 950 01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,580 One of the girls there that did aerobics was this gorgeous, dark -haired lady 951 01:09:01,580 --> 01:09:02,580 named Dale. 952 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,220 And Hawk, well, Hawk, get over there. 953 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,080 So I introduced him, you know. 954 01:09:08,779 --> 01:09:12,920 I said, Dale, I don't know if you remember Hawk or not, but he wants to 955 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,080 out. So they ended up going out. 956 01:09:15,939 --> 01:09:17,899 And they ended up marrying her. 957 01:09:19,220 --> 01:09:23,540 She was a great influence on him in a huge part of his life. 958 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,899 He loved her a lot. She loved him a lot. And they were, I think, good for each 959 01:09:29,899 --> 01:09:30,899 other. 960 01:09:31,899 --> 01:09:35,680 At the time, Joe, he did a lot of independent wrestling. 961 01:09:36,440 --> 01:09:38,300 But he never really liked it. 962 01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:42,120 You know, when you don't have that person in the corner that you've kind of 963 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:47,240 always relied on, whether he's reliable or not, he was, you know, they had gone 964 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,240 through a lot together. 965 01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:52,580 You can't have Rotary Animal without Hawk. 966 01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:54,780 You couldn't have one without the other. 967 01:09:59,660 --> 01:10:00,740 One day... 968 01:10:01,350 --> 01:10:07,150 I invited Joe to a conference out in Phoenix, Arizona. It's called AIM, 969 01:10:07,150 --> 01:10:12,110 International Ministries for College and Professional Christian Athletes. 970 01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:15,990 Joe immediately said, can I invite Mike? I want to invite Mike. 971 01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:22,870 I'm like, Joe, you know it's like a Christian conference, right? And he 972 01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:26,030 know, but I just feel like I'm supposed to invite him. 973 01:10:26,490 --> 01:10:30,130 I'm like, well, by all means, invite him then. 974 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:39,500 And he called me back, and he said, man, he wants to come. 975 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:49,700 That first night, Mike's whole personality, attitude, everything 976 01:10:49,700 --> 01:10:50,700 changed. 977 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,760 Oh, my gosh, like there's a genuine change in this man. 978 01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:59,680 There was a sense of genuineness about him, a sense of joy. 979 01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:06,300 that he maybe didn't have prior to that, and a change, not just a change of 980 01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:08,420 attitude, but a heart change. 981 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:18,000 After that, he was just trying to straighten up all 982 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,740 around. And here we are. 983 01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:27,460 Finally, he was ready for that, and Paul got clean and 984 01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:28,460 sober. 985 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:33,720 which is a great story on Hawk Whip. Nobody thought Hawk would ever pull it 986 01:11:35,420 --> 01:11:37,180 It was like night and day. 987 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:43,460 It was just a wonderful thing to see. It was a miracle. 988 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,240 It took us all by surprise, and obviously in a good way. 989 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,080 He just seemed really happy. 990 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,980 Life will be good. You have Dale, you have your place in Florida, everything. 991 01:11:59,420 --> 01:12:04,540 It seemed like it was falling into place, knowing that, okay, you don't 992 01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:06,500 worry so much about Mike anymore. 993 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:13,600 The road he was on is no longer the road he is on. 994 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:20,720 Now he's on a new road. On this road, he will fulfill his life and his 995 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:21,920 destiny in life. 996 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,800 September 2003, I got to spend time with Hawk. 997 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:42,120 We just sat there and soaked up some sun and talked about the 998 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:46,200 old days and where we can go from here. 999 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,880 It was Saturday morning. 1000 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,860 He was getting ready to move. 1001 01:12:52,580 --> 01:12:56,480 He calls me up and goes, I got to get right in here. I got to go help Dale 1002 01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:00,040 and help her move. He goes, I'll call you back later tonight. He goes, Joe. 1003 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,000 I said, what? He goes, I love you. 1004 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,740 He goes, you know that, don't you? I said, yeah, man, I know that. 1005 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,980 I said, brother, I love you too, Mike. 1006 01:13:08,220 --> 01:13:09,220 I said, I'll talk to you tonight. 1007 01:13:22,259 --> 01:13:23,259 Yeah. 1008 01:13:25,220 --> 01:13:26,920 I always get this way. 1009 01:13:31,660 --> 01:13:36,220 Mike and Dale, 1010 01:13:36,380 --> 01:13:43,200 they were moving, you know, and they were moving a lot of 1011 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:49,520 furniture and boxes and stuff. And from what I understand, he wasn't feeling 1012 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:50,580 well, you know. 1013 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:58,340 He said, I'm tired, I don't feel real good or something, and laid down. 1014 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,360 And, you know, yeah. 1015 01:14:08,060 --> 01:14:13,200 I think an hour later, Dale went in and he had passed. 1016 01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:20,920 The guy with the big heart dies. 1017 01:14:22,570 --> 01:14:23,570 What a heart attack. 1018 01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:33,070 Yeah, the hardest part was just, you 1019 01:14:33,070 --> 01:14:36,910 know, didn't expect him to die. 1020 01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:49,950 All the times that he could have died in his life, it was unexpected, which 1021 01:14:49,950 --> 01:14:50,950 sounds crazy. 1022 01:14:55,660 --> 01:14:56,660 Joe's phone rang. 1023 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,960 It was Dale. 1024 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:05,980 He just, like, like, collapsed. He, like, just, like, fell to the ground. 1025 01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:13,680 Joe told me when he got that phone call that Mike had passed away, he said he 1026 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,940 sat down and he just cried like a baby. 1027 01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:22,420 Animal called me up, said, 1028 01:15:23,980 --> 01:15:25,080 Hawk is gone. 1029 01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:33,300 And I cried and cried. 1030 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:39,540 It was hard. 1031 01:15:45,660 --> 01:15:48,720 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. We're live here on Raw this past Sunday 1032 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,680 morning. Road Warrior Hawk passed away unexpected at the age of 46. 1033 01:15:56,220 --> 01:16:02,020 Even though he had gotten clean, I think, as we all know, that kind of 1034 01:16:02,020 --> 01:16:06,500 was strained on his heart. It caught up with him at a time when he had gotten 1035 01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:08,260 clean. So that was kind of sad. 1036 01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:10,940 We definitely lost him way too early. 1037 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,000 Hawk was a nice guy. 1038 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:20,300 So it was just a really, really tough one. 1039 01:16:24,940 --> 01:16:30,080 Growing up in the 60s, I don't remember my 1040 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,800 dad ever giving me a hug. 1041 01:16:35,140 --> 01:16:38,340 And Mike brought that back. 1042 01:16:39,980 --> 01:16:45,740 He got our dad to hug us, and we hugged our dad. 1043 01:16:47,620 --> 01:16:49,260 And we hugged each other. 1044 01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:52,900 That's the way I remember it. 1045 01:16:58,470 --> 01:17:02,310 My brother Hawk, man, I'm telling you, there's not a day that goes by that I do 1046 01:17:02,310 --> 01:17:03,730 not think about that man. 1047 01:17:05,530 --> 01:17:10,090 I knew Hawk better than anybody. If I could explain the connection that Hawk 1048 01:17:10,090 --> 01:17:16,990 I had, I would, but I can't explain it. And Hawk, we fed off 1049 01:17:16,990 --> 01:17:20,430 each other, man. It was one mind, one team, one body. 1050 01:17:21,250 --> 01:17:24,610 And I will forever miss him and be dead. 1051 01:17:32,650 --> 01:17:37,830 that time we were in Missouri we lived in Missouri for a long time my brother 1052 01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:43,170 was playing for the St. Louis Rams and then we were down there for quite some 1053 01:17:43,170 --> 01:17:48,590 time that St. Louis really became our home my dad he you know he did wrestling 1054 01:17:48,590 --> 01:17:52,650 appearances here and there you can tell he definitely missed it but he continued 1055 01:17:52,650 --> 01:17:56,990 to be a family man and he was just a grandpa to you know all of his little 1056 01:17:56,990 --> 01:18:01,320 grandkids and just loved that I mean he wished he could have been living near 1057 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,420 everybody in his family and just we all could have just lived on a compound 1058 01:18:04,420 --> 01:18:11,020 together and he would have been happy when i had my son 1059 01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:16,500 jacob which was april 19 2011 my dad ended up like 1060 01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:22,560 not being able to breathe like very well so he ended up going into the hospital 1061 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:28,960 and he got diagnosed with congestive heart failure but after that 1062 01:18:29,420 --> 01:18:33,100 He definitely was, like, hyper -focused on his health and just trying to make 1063 01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:35,360 sure that he was as healthy as he could be. 1064 01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:42,060 It was his family, 100%. You know. 1065 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,120 Sorry. 1066 01:18:53,340 --> 01:18:57,840 She told me that he wanted to watch Jacob grow up as his grandpa. 1067 01:18:59,690 --> 01:19:05,330 And he wanted to watch him play high school sports and go to college and all 1068 01:19:05,330 --> 01:19:06,330 that stuff. 1069 01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:12,930 So at that moment, he wanted to be there for him and for everybody else in the 1070 01:19:12,930 --> 01:19:19,190 family. And that was definitely what was driving him. 1071 01:19:21,490 --> 01:19:27,330 There were times that I know he wasn't feeling okay, but I know that he 1072 01:19:27,330 --> 01:19:29,230 pushed through it. 1073 01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:34,180 like every day, you know, just to be there for us and whoever else needed 1074 01:19:34,220 --> 01:19:35,620 He was just determined to be there. 1075 01:19:39,980 --> 01:19:46,760 I knew Joe had some heart issues, but I didn't know just how serious they 1076 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:47,760 were. 1077 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,200 It was September 22, 2020. 1078 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,040 She ended up going into... 1079 01:19:58,050 --> 01:20:02,510 The hospital, he was having a heart attack. 1080 01:20:04,830 --> 01:20:09,310 I remember at one point, they told me that they had been, like, trying to 1081 01:20:09,310 --> 01:20:10,970 him for, like, 30 minutes. 1082 01:20:14,630 --> 01:20:17,310 And I knew at that point he wasn't going to make it. 1083 01:20:20,590 --> 01:20:21,590 I just knew. 1084 01:20:22,370 --> 01:20:23,730 You know, it's just that feeling. 1085 01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:32,090 Seeing him laying there on that table, just knowing he wasn't coming back. 1086 01:20:36,270 --> 01:20:40,390 I just like fell to the floor. My whole world just, 1087 01:20:40,510 --> 01:20:43,890 just stopped. 1088 01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:52,730 I didn't think I was going to get upset, but it was a very, she was very 1089 01:20:52,730 --> 01:20:53,730 emotional. 1090 01:20:55,980 --> 01:20:59,620 The Minnesota professional wrestler known as Animal has died. 1091 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,480 Joe Laurinaitis died at the age of 60. 1092 01:21:02,860 --> 01:21:05,840 TMZ is reporting his death was from natural causes. 1093 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,560 To get that call of his passing was heart -wrenching. 1094 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:20,420 I saw Hawk a month before he died, and I saw Joe a month before he died. 1095 01:21:22,700 --> 01:21:24,520 I never got to say goodbye. 1096 01:21:31,740 --> 01:21:37,860 Well, we're going to the hockey rink to go meet my son and play a little hockey. 1097 01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:43,140 I've got to still try to school him a little bit, you know, because I still 1098 01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:46,260 him I'm better than him, but I don't know, he's pretty good. 1099 01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:47,980 The 1100 01:21:47,980 --> 01:21:54,760 way 1101 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,720 that my dad raised us was just to love each other. 1102 01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,920 You know, and of course, everybody's parents. 1103 01:22:01,210 --> 01:22:05,370 I think, a little differently than, like, how they were raised. But I catch 1104 01:22:05,370 --> 01:22:07,010 myself. I'm the same way with Jacob. 1105 01:22:07,630 --> 01:22:08,910 Let's pass around a little, huh? 1106 01:22:10,250 --> 01:22:11,290 Oh, yeah. 1107 01:22:12,410 --> 01:22:13,830 That love for family. 1108 01:22:14,610 --> 01:22:17,930 I just don't know anything different than that. That's literally all I was 1109 01:22:17,930 --> 01:22:18,930 to. 1110 01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:23,550 My dad, he's just in the back of my mind, you know, all the time. Just what 1111 01:22:23,550 --> 01:22:24,990 would he do or what would he say? 1112 01:22:25,330 --> 01:22:26,330 Can you rip it? 1113 01:22:27,130 --> 01:22:28,590 And, of course... 1114 01:22:28,810 --> 01:22:32,830 The dedication, the hard work, like just teaching the work ethic, I've 1115 01:22:32,830 --> 01:22:36,290 definitely kind of instilled that in Jacob. And I do explain it to him like, 1116 01:22:36,370 --> 01:22:39,990 hey, Papa would have done this. You know what I mean? I kind of use that because 1117 01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:44,450 there's a lot of stuff that my dad and, of course, my mom taught us that it's 1118 01:22:44,450 --> 01:22:48,810 like you need to keep going. You need to try to be the best. You need to try to 1119 01:22:48,810 --> 01:22:53,170 do this. And I definitely will have to kind of throw Papa's name around a 1120 01:22:53,170 --> 01:22:55,210 bit just to get Jacob to listen to me. 1121 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:10,560 Go back to the early days at the gym and Grandma B's and them crossing paths 1122 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:16,040 with one another, whether it be fate or whatever else it is that brought the two 1123 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:20,340 of them together to go on to have this legendary tag team career. 1124 01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,900 It's pretty amazing to think about it and look back on. 1125 01:23:26,740 --> 01:23:28,240 For the Road Warriors. 1126 01:23:28,620 --> 01:23:32,060 Brother, you talk about vicious, bizarre individuals. 1127 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:39,440 I think the legacy would probably be... And, brother, they are carnage 1128 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:40,580 unlimited. Oh, wow! 1129 01:23:41,140 --> 01:23:44,660 Nobody was tougher, nobody was stronger, nobody was more intimidating. 1130 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,140 You want a piece of the Warriors? 1131 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:47,400 Hop in the ring. 1132 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,900 They made their own destiny. 1133 01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:52,800 What a moment for Legion of Doom! 1134 01:23:53,180 --> 01:23:54,580 They wrote the book. 1135 01:23:54,940 --> 01:23:55,940 Oh, look at this! 1136 01:23:57,180 --> 01:23:58,280 Forget about it! 1137 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,820 Then they lived the book. 1138 01:24:01,820 --> 01:24:03,720 They were the best of their time. 1139 01:24:04,140 --> 01:24:05,600 They were the best of all time. 1140 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:12,500 But the best things in life are not things. 1141 01:24:13,140 --> 01:24:14,500 They're relationships. 1142 01:24:19,060 --> 01:24:24,560 Outside of being known as Animal and Hawk, they were Joe and Mike. 1143 01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,960 And they developed the loyalty to one another. 1144 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,780 and stayed together through the highs and lows, the thick and the thin. 1145 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:40,400 And it led to a long -lasting love for one another. 1146 01:24:41,140 --> 01:24:45,560 Joe Laurinaitis and Mike Hegstrand were true brothers. 1147 01:24:45,820 --> 01:24:51,660 They would have never found the success they had in life without each other. The 1148 01:24:51,660 --> 01:24:54,300 road that they traveled was together. 1149 01:24:56,090 --> 01:24:59,390 They may have drifted apart at times, but they always came back together. 1150 01:25:00,650 --> 01:25:04,510 They never really left each other. They were really always there for each other 1151 01:25:04,510 --> 01:25:05,510 right to the end. 1152 01:25:08,750 --> 01:25:10,310 It's a lot of destiny. 1153 01:25:11,870 --> 01:25:14,270 The next thing you know, you're making memories. 1154 01:25:16,630 --> 01:25:23,350 Of all the things in the world, it's the memories that 1155 01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:24,350 matter. 1156 01:25:25,740 --> 01:25:27,020 The boys are smiling. 95839

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