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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,973 --> 00:00:06,937 [FOOTSTEPS] 2 00:00:06,937 --> 00:00:09,901 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 3 00:00:09,901 --> 00:00:12,865 [CHEERING] 4 00:00:12,865 --> 00:00:15,335 [SCRAPING] 5 00:00:15,335 --> 00:00:17,311 [DIGITAL BEEPING] 6 00:00:17,311 --> 00:00:20,275 7 00:00:25,215 --> 00:00:28,179 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 8 00:00:33,171 --> 00:00:36,831 JAMES CAMERON: There's a moment when you're just a fan. 9 00:00:36,831 --> 00:00:39,531 And there's a moment when you're a filmmaker. 10 00:00:39,531 --> 00:00:42,699 And the one moment can follow the other by about 1 minute. 11 00:00:42,699 --> 00:00:44,616 Because all you have to do is pick up a camera 12 00:00:44,616 --> 00:00:47,481 and start shooting something with the intention of making 13 00:00:47,481 --> 00:00:52,083 a film, and you're a filmmaker. 14 00:00:52,083 --> 00:00:55,035 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 15 00:01:09,795 --> 00:01:12,255 [GLASS SHATTERS] 16 00:01:12,255 --> 00:01:14,223 [SCREECHING] 17 00:01:17,681 --> 00:01:20,141 JAMES CAMERON: There's a moment where there's no idea. 18 00:01:20,141 --> 00:01:22,581 And then there's the moment where there's the idea. 19 00:01:22,581 --> 00:01:26,681 And I think of it almost the way we assemble images and bits 20 00:01:26,681 --> 00:01:28,871 of narrative in our dreams. 21 00:01:28,871 --> 00:01:30,371 Maybe it's in another time. 22 00:01:30,371 --> 00:01:32,231 Maybe it's in another place. 23 00:01:32,231 --> 00:01:35,261 Maybe it's an entirely different world. 24 00:01:35,261 --> 00:01:38,591 It's up to the filmmaker to create that little bit 25 00:01:38,591 --> 00:01:40,341 of an alternate reality. 26 00:01:40,341 --> 00:01:44,021 And then we get to feel kind of alive 27 00:01:44,021 --> 00:01:47,501 through a completely different set of eyes. 28 00:01:47,501 --> 00:01:49,088 That's an amazing thing. 29 00:01:49,088 --> 00:01:52,010 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 30 00:01:58,841 --> 00:02:00,011 I'm James Cameron. 31 00:02:00,011 --> 00:02:04,515 And this is my MasterClass. 32 00:02:04,515 --> 00:02:07,401 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 33 00:02:12,211 --> 00:02:15,211 NARRATOR: Whatever you have imagined in your wildest dreams 34 00:02:15,211 --> 00:02:17,191 now becomes a visual reality. 35 00:02:17,191 --> 00:02:19,061 JAMES CAMERON: I had loved films. 36 00:02:19,061 --> 00:02:20,061 I always loved films. 37 00:02:20,061 --> 00:02:22,561 Like, I remember particularly when I was in the third grade, 38 00:02:22,561 --> 00:02:25,621 I saw "Mysterious Island," a Ray Harryhausen film. 39 00:02:25,621 --> 00:02:31,441 And it had lots of wonderful sort of little boy fantasy 40 00:02:31,441 --> 00:02:32,881 adventure stuff in it. 41 00:02:35,591 --> 00:02:40,921 I came back, and I started drawing comics, comics 42 00:02:40,921 --> 00:02:42,541 about "Mysterious Island." 43 00:02:42,541 --> 00:02:44,431 But it wasn't the same story. 44 00:02:44,431 --> 00:02:45,931 I made up my own creatures. 45 00:02:45,931 --> 00:02:47,551 And I made up my own scenarios. 46 00:02:47,551 --> 00:02:48,991 And I started to think in a frame. 47 00:02:48,991 --> 00:02:51,551 And I started to think-- well, I didn't realize it-- 48 00:02:51,551 --> 00:02:52,801 but I was doing wide shots. 49 00:02:52,801 --> 00:02:55,531 And I was doing close-ups. And I was doing reverse angles. 50 00:02:55,531 --> 00:02:58,591 And I was doing all the things that a filmmaker does. 51 00:02:58,591 --> 00:03:02,431 So I was doing all those things, graphically, on paper. 52 00:03:02,431 --> 00:03:06,601 But it didn't translate to I want to make movies. 53 00:03:06,601 --> 00:03:11,041 So cut to years later, I'm very excited to see this new film 54 00:03:11,041 --> 00:03:13,861 that's just come out-- this is in 1968-- 55 00:03:13,861 --> 00:03:15,691 called "2001-- a Space Odyssey." 56 00:03:15,691 --> 00:03:16,801 Because I love space. 57 00:03:16,801 --> 00:03:17,851 I love science fiction. 58 00:03:17,851 --> 00:03:20,911 I'm an avid reader of science fiction. 59 00:03:20,911 --> 00:03:23,911 And it looked from the images like it was really 60 00:03:23,911 --> 00:03:28,759 a quantum leap in terms of the type of space imagery 61 00:03:28,759 --> 00:03:30,051 that I was going to experience. 62 00:03:30,051 --> 00:03:31,861 So I went and saw that film. 63 00:03:31,861 --> 00:03:37,231 And it had such a visceral impact on me that by the end, 64 00:03:37,231 --> 00:03:39,951 I was probably almost alone in the movie 65 00:03:39,951 --> 00:03:40,951 theater for some reason. 66 00:03:40,951 --> 00:03:42,541 It was a matinee during the day. 67 00:03:42,541 --> 00:03:45,781 I stumbled out of the theater, I sat down on the curb, 68 00:03:45,781 --> 00:03:47,881 and I threw up. 69 00:03:47,881 --> 00:03:49,501 Not because I didn't like the film, 70 00:03:49,501 --> 00:03:52,801 but because when the stargate sequence began, 71 00:03:52,801 --> 00:03:56,851 I felt like I was falling down an infinite corridor of light. 72 00:03:56,851 --> 00:03:58,321 And I got airsick. 73 00:03:58,321 --> 00:04:01,641 I was so subjectively present for that film. 74 00:04:01,641 --> 00:04:04,141 And when I see the film now, it's 75 00:04:04,141 --> 00:04:06,601 a very hard film to be subjectively present for. 76 00:04:06,601 --> 00:04:11,341 It's a very cold and intellectual film. 77 00:04:11,341 --> 00:04:12,721 But I loved it visually. 78 00:04:12,721 --> 00:04:15,361 And it was the first time I really-- 79 00:04:15,361 --> 00:04:17,011 at the age of 14-- 80 00:04:17,011 --> 00:04:21,001 made the connection that a movie can be a piece of art 81 00:04:21,001 --> 00:04:22,531 and can be an experience. 82 00:04:22,531 --> 00:04:25,501 And it was the first time I noticed film music. 83 00:04:25,501 --> 00:04:27,691 Because obviously, images and music 84 00:04:27,691 --> 00:04:29,941 went hand in glove in that film in a really kind 85 00:04:29,941 --> 00:04:32,411 of almost unprecedented way. 86 00:04:32,411 --> 00:04:37,141 So I started getting really enthusiastic about how 87 00:04:37,141 --> 00:04:38,921 did they do that. 88 00:04:38,921 --> 00:04:40,501 And it just so happened that that 89 00:04:40,501 --> 00:04:44,071 was one of the first films that had a book, a companion 90 00:04:44,071 --> 00:04:48,661 book, that was published and widely available, 91 00:04:48,661 --> 00:04:51,361 "The Making of 2001." 92 00:04:51,361 --> 00:04:57,181 And I remember it was written by a guy named Jerome Agel. 93 00:04:57,181 --> 00:04:58,921 And I got the book. 94 00:04:58,921 --> 00:05:00,361 And I read it cover to cover. 95 00:05:00,361 --> 00:05:02,981 And I understood about a quarter of it. 96 00:05:02,981 --> 00:05:04,501 So I read it again. 97 00:05:04,501 --> 00:05:05,791 And I started making notes. 98 00:05:05,791 --> 00:05:08,921 And I started thinking about, well, how could I do that. 99 00:05:08,921 --> 00:05:12,871 So I got my dad's Super 8 camera. 100 00:05:12,871 --> 00:05:16,821 And I'd take a sheet of glass, and I mount a model on it. 101 00:05:16,821 --> 00:05:20,581 I'd buy a kit model of one of the spacecraft from the film. 102 00:05:20,581 --> 00:05:21,611 And I put it together. 103 00:05:21,611 --> 00:05:23,011 And I'd glue it onto the glass. 104 00:05:23,011 --> 00:05:25,261 And I'd put a piece of black velvet behind it. 105 00:05:25,261 --> 00:05:27,151 And I'd put a light on it. 106 00:05:27,151 --> 00:05:29,881 And it looked terrible, because the model 107 00:05:29,881 --> 00:05:31,534 reflected in the glass. 108 00:05:31,534 --> 00:05:33,451 Then I thought, well, what if I take the model 109 00:05:33,451 --> 00:05:36,061 and put it behind the glass and glue it on from this side 110 00:05:36,061 --> 00:05:38,611 and then put, like, one little tiny piece of detail 111 00:05:38,611 --> 00:05:41,881 over where that glue spot is, and then light it. 112 00:05:41,881 --> 00:05:43,261 And I won't see the reflection. 113 00:05:43,261 --> 00:05:45,871 Now, all of a sudden, I'm with my Super 8 camera, 114 00:05:45,871 --> 00:05:48,601 I'm making a spaceship fly through space. 115 00:05:48,601 --> 00:05:52,561 Well, I don't think I ever looked back from that point. 116 00:05:52,561 --> 00:05:55,141 I always think of it as the door is going 117 00:05:55,141 --> 00:05:57,691 to open for a split second. 118 00:05:57,691 --> 00:05:59,941 Whether you choose to jump through it or not, 119 00:05:59,941 --> 00:06:02,161 it's not going to be there for very long. 120 00:06:02,161 --> 00:06:04,171 Another door will come along sooner or later, 121 00:06:04,171 --> 00:06:06,001 if you stay at it. 122 00:06:06,001 --> 00:06:09,851 When you jump through that door, and you say, I'm here. 123 00:06:09,851 --> 00:06:11,431 I'm ready to do this. 124 00:06:11,431 --> 00:06:15,481 You have to have prepared for that moment for literally years 125 00:06:15,481 --> 00:06:17,671 by being a sponge, by being curious, 126 00:06:17,671 --> 00:06:22,261 by absorbing everything that you can to prepare yourself 127 00:06:22,261 --> 00:06:25,351 for that moment. 128 00:06:25,351 --> 00:06:28,711 I think every filmmaker stands essentially 129 00:06:28,711 --> 00:06:31,831 on the shoulders of the filmmakers that went before. 130 00:06:31,831 --> 00:06:33,781 We see what they've done. 131 00:06:33,781 --> 00:06:34,741 We react to it. 132 00:06:34,741 --> 00:06:36,691 It's like, that was interesting. 133 00:06:36,691 --> 00:06:40,891 And then we start to create our own aesthetic. 134 00:06:40,891 --> 00:06:42,961 And every individual will take what's 135 00:06:42,961 --> 00:06:45,031 been done by other filmmakers and filter it 136 00:06:45,031 --> 00:06:47,461 through their own lens, their own subjective experience, 137 00:06:47,461 --> 00:06:49,381 their own opinions about the world. 138 00:06:49,381 --> 00:06:51,301 And it'll come back in a different form. 139 00:06:51,301 --> 00:06:54,851 And so it's endlessly renewing and endlessly invigorating. 140 00:06:54,851 --> 00:06:58,291 And I think it's the duty of filmmakers 141 00:06:58,291 --> 00:07:00,901 that have been down the road ways 142 00:07:00,901 --> 00:07:03,871 to turn around and say, all right, there's 143 00:07:03,871 --> 00:07:05,071 a landmine over here. 144 00:07:05,071 --> 00:07:06,451 There's a landmine over here. 145 00:07:06,451 --> 00:07:07,861 Don't step on it. 146 00:07:07,861 --> 00:07:12,271 You know, if I can't do that after 40 years in the business, 147 00:07:12,271 --> 00:07:14,851 then I'm not giving back enough. 148 00:07:14,851 --> 00:07:16,691 So why not share that? 149 00:07:16,691 --> 00:07:20,251 So in this class, I'm going to talk about what I've learned. 150 00:07:20,251 --> 00:07:21,668 And one of the things I've learned 151 00:07:21,668 --> 00:07:23,126 is that you never learn everything. 152 00:07:23,126 --> 00:07:24,911 And it's a constant process of learning. 153 00:07:24,911 --> 00:07:28,621 So you're constantly humble before the craft. 154 00:07:28,621 --> 00:07:32,731 And you're constantly learning from other filmmakers. 155 00:07:32,731 --> 00:07:37,021 If I had known when I started out what I know now, of course, 156 00:07:37,021 --> 00:07:39,121 I would have done a lot of things differently. 157 00:07:39,121 --> 00:07:41,911 But I think my films would have been slightly 158 00:07:41,911 --> 00:07:44,041 different, but not that much. 159 00:07:44,041 --> 00:07:45,511 What I would have done differently 160 00:07:45,511 --> 00:07:49,361 is I would have respected all the crafts people around me 161 00:07:49,361 --> 00:07:49,861 more. 162 00:07:49,861 --> 00:07:54,879 I would have learned the leadership lessons earlier. 163 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:56,671 And I think that that's something hopefully 164 00:07:56,671 --> 00:07:58,801 that I can impart in this class-- 165 00:07:58,801 --> 00:08:04,401 the importance of the role of leader of a group. 166 00:08:04,401 --> 00:08:05,831 It's not dictator. 167 00:08:05,831 --> 00:08:10,831 And it's a very collaborative medium. 168 00:08:10,831 --> 00:08:15,057 And your film will benefit from that collaboration. 169 00:08:15,057 --> 00:08:17,891 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 170 00:08:18,056 --> 00:08:19,681 I think the important thing to remember 171 00:08:19,681 --> 00:08:23,649 is you can make a great film without a huge budget. 172 00:08:23,649 --> 00:08:26,091 [LASERS BLASTING] 173 00:08:26,091 --> 00:08:27,351 I've done low-budget films. 174 00:08:27,351 --> 00:08:28,891 [EXPLOSIONS] 175 00:08:28,891 --> 00:08:30,811 I've also done very high-budget films. 176 00:08:30,811 --> 00:08:32,671 [ROBOTIC MOVEMENT] 177 00:08:32,671 --> 00:08:34,940 I've been lucky enough to be able to do that. 178 00:08:34,940 --> 00:08:37,265 [WINGS FLUTTERING] 179 00:08:39,591 --> 00:08:42,541 But you can definitely optimize your budget. 180 00:08:42,541 --> 00:08:44,241 And there are ways to do that. 181 00:08:44,241 --> 00:08:47,781 And I'll share with you what I know about some 182 00:08:47,781 --> 00:08:49,951 of the tricks of the trade. 183 00:08:49,951 --> 00:08:52,171 And I wanted to share what's been learned. 184 00:08:52,171 --> 00:08:54,271 Because we had to learn it the hard way. 185 00:08:54,271 --> 00:08:57,511 And there's no reason why I can't 186 00:08:57,511 --> 00:08:59,911 share what's been learned in a way that can benefit you, 187 00:08:59,911 --> 00:09:01,711 as an up and coming filmmaker. 188 00:09:01,711 --> 00:09:05,731 And hopefully then you'll go ahead, and you'll innovate, 189 00:09:05,731 --> 00:09:06,691 and you'll do things. 190 00:09:06,691 --> 00:09:09,541 And I'll follow your work, see what you've done, 191 00:09:09,541 --> 00:09:10,921 and maybe learn from you. 192 00:09:10,921 --> 00:09:13,971 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:03,472 2 00:00:12,059 --> 00:00:13,851 JAMES CAMERON: One of the biggest questions 3 00:00:13,851 --> 00:00:15,801 in creativity-- any form of creativity 4 00:00:15,801 --> 00:00:18,861 is, when is an idea that you have 5 00:00:18,861 --> 00:00:22,521 that pops up like a little champagne bubble in your mind 6 00:00:22,521 --> 00:00:23,691 worth pursuing? 7 00:00:23,691 --> 00:00:26,331 The answer to that is highly subjective. 8 00:00:26,331 --> 00:00:27,711 What appeals to you? 9 00:00:27,711 --> 00:00:32,001 What are-- are you interested in as an artist or as someone 10 00:00:32,001 --> 00:00:34,941 aspiring to be an artist in cinema? 11 00:00:34,941 --> 00:00:37,851 What compels you to tell a story? 12 00:00:37,851 --> 00:00:39,681 Is it the visual aspects of it? 13 00:00:39,681 --> 00:00:42,741 Is it the world that you want to immerse people in? 14 00:00:42,741 --> 00:00:44,631 Is it a particular character? 15 00:00:44,631 --> 00:00:48,081 Is it a particular problem for a character 16 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:51,621 that you want to explore maybe based on how it resonates 17 00:00:51,621 --> 00:00:53,661 with something in your life? 18 00:00:53,661 --> 00:00:56,811 Or maybe it's a story that you've read 19 00:00:56,811 --> 00:00:59,101 and say, I want to do something like that, 20 00:00:59,101 --> 00:01:00,851 or it's a film that you've seen and say, I 21 00:01:00,851 --> 00:01:02,361 want to do something like that. 22 00:01:02,361 --> 00:01:04,461 Maybe it's very unformed at first. 23 00:01:04,461 --> 00:01:08,091 Okay, there's this-- this woman does this. 24 00:01:08,091 --> 00:01:09,788 I want to tell this story, you know? 25 00:01:09,788 --> 00:01:11,121 Put some detail on it, you know? 26 00:01:11,121 --> 00:01:11,621 Who is she? 27 00:01:11,621 --> 00:01:13,971 What time-- what time in the world is it? 28 00:01:13,971 --> 00:01:14,781 What's the setting? 29 00:01:14,781 --> 00:01:16,281 And how does that resonate? 30 00:01:16,281 --> 00:01:20,091 And maybe-- maybe you put her in Cincinnati in 1962 31 00:01:20,091 --> 00:01:23,121 and all of a sudden, ah, too limiting socially. 32 00:01:23,121 --> 00:01:27,021 Maybe it needs to be in some dystopian future, you know? 33 00:01:27,021 --> 00:01:29,361 And so just let it swirl around. 34 00:01:29,361 --> 00:01:32,061 And don't lock in on anything right away. 35 00:01:32,061 --> 00:01:34,641 I mean, I think that one of the keys to this 36 00:01:34,641 --> 00:01:37,131 is to be open and flexible and always-- 37 00:01:37,131 --> 00:01:39,561 always keep an openness. 38 00:01:39,561 --> 00:01:42,861 So really, it's a question of after that initial process, 39 00:01:42,861 --> 00:01:47,151 is the-- does the idea stand the sort of sniff test 40 00:01:47,151 --> 00:01:50,361 for something that you want to really devote your time to? 41 00:01:50,361 --> 00:01:53,891 And I think the answer to that is it just won't go away, 42 00:01:53,891 --> 00:01:55,181 you know? 43 00:01:55,181 --> 00:01:56,681 The idea just won't go away. 44 00:01:56,681 --> 00:01:58,331 It starts to resonate with things 45 00:01:58,331 --> 00:02:00,251 that are happening in your life or in the news 46 00:02:00,251 --> 00:02:01,601 or in another film that-- 47 00:02:01,601 --> 00:02:05,201 that you see and it starts to get more detailed, 48 00:02:05,201 --> 00:02:06,851 it starts to come into focus. 49 00:02:06,851 --> 00:02:09,280 And then there'll would be a certain point where you say, 50 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,051 I've just got to sit down and write this. 51 00:02:13,771 --> 00:02:15,431 The imagination never stops. 52 00:02:15,431 --> 00:02:16,471 It's always working. 53 00:02:16,471 --> 00:02:19,231 And I think ideas come to any kind of artist 54 00:02:19,231 --> 00:02:21,721 from-- from different sources, and the subconscious 55 00:02:21,721 --> 00:02:25,381 is one that certainly the surrealist artists back 56 00:02:25,381 --> 00:02:28,681 around the turn of the last century believed in. 57 00:02:28,681 --> 00:02:30,571 They believed in dream imagery. 58 00:02:30,571 --> 00:02:35,131 They believed that it was an unmediated, unintellectualized 59 00:02:35,131 --> 00:02:39,721 version of their subconscious creative force or imagination, 60 00:02:39,721 --> 00:02:43,051 and I believe that to be true also. 61 00:02:43,051 --> 00:02:46,531 It's my zero-cost subscription to a streaming service 62 00:02:46,531 --> 00:02:47,881 that's all my own. 63 00:02:47,881 --> 00:02:51,061 Every night I get all kinds of entertaining stuff. 64 00:02:51,061 --> 00:02:54,271 I know I've-- I've woken up having leafed through 65 00:02:54,271 --> 00:02:58,141 sketchbooks or-- or paintings and thought to myself, man, 66 00:02:58,141 --> 00:03:01,591 I wish I could paint like that, then realized I just did. 67 00:03:01,591 --> 00:03:03,871 And then scramble around and try to draw it out, 68 00:03:03,871 --> 00:03:06,091 draw out the ideas that I've seen. 69 00:03:06,091 --> 00:03:08,311 And every once in a while something stands out. 70 00:03:08,311 --> 00:03:11,881 Whether it's a scene in a narrative sense 71 00:03:11,881 --> 00:03:15,511 that might be-- it be tragic, it might be joyful, 72 00:03:15,511 --> 00:03:18,121 or maybe it's just an image. 73 00:03:18,121 --> 00:03:23,791 To pick an example, "Terminator" started as a dream image. 74 00:03:23,791 --> 00:03:26,881 The actual terminator itself and the-- 75 00:03:26,881 --> 00:03:30,061 the image of it as a chrome metal skeleton 76 00:03:30,061 --> 00:03:33,331 emerging out of a fire with the certain knowledge, 77 00:03:33,331 --> 00:03:36,541 in the same way that you have a certain knowledge in dreams 78 00:03:36,541 --> 00:03:39,151 about something, about what the thing 79 00:03:39,151 --> 00:03:42,301 you're seeing means or the person that you're seeing, 80 00:03:42,301 --> 00:03:44,521 what they mean to you in the dream, 81 00:03:44,521 --> 00:03:47,311 I knew that it once had skin over it, which 82 00:03:47,311 --> 00:03:50,641 was burned off by the fire and it was walking out of the fire. 83 00:03:50,641 --> 00:03:53,451 So I woke up and I said, that's a pretty good idea, 84 00:03:53,451 --> 00:03:56,461 and I started drawing what I had seen. 85 00:03:56,461 --> 00:03:59,431 And that was the nucleus for "The Terminator." 86 00:03:59,431 --> 00:04:01,441 Then I had to justify, where am I? 87 00:04:01,441 --> 00:04:03,181 Why is there a metal skeleton? 88 00:04:03,181 --> 00:04:05,401 Why was-- why did it have skin over it? 89 00:04:05,401 --> 00:04:08,311 Well, obviously there was a purpose to that. 90 00:04:08,311 --> 00:04:10,573 And we don't have that, so that comes from the future. 91 00:04:10,573 --> 00:04:12,031 And hey, maybe I could make a movie 92 00:04:12,031 --> 00:04:14,651 about that in the present day if there was time travel. 93 00:04:14,651 --> 00:04:16,860 So boom, boom, boom, all the pieces 94 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:20,701 assembled around that nucleus of a dream image. 95 00:04:27,721 --> 00:04:29,501 You have an idea, what happens next? 96 00:04:29,501 --> 00:04:33,991 Well, there's this pesky little thing called the written word. 97 00:04:33,991 --> 00:04:35,371 You've got to write a story. 98 00:04:35,371 --> 00:04:38,071 Somebody has got to write a story at some point. 99 00:04:38,071 --> 00:04:41,161 Now maybe-- maybe it's a five-page outline, 100 00:04:41,161 --> 00:04:44,551 maybe in my case it's a 75-page outline, 101 00:04:44,551 --> 00:04:45,811 because that's how I work. 102 00:04:45,811 --> 00:04:48,001 I work at a very novelistic way. 103 00:04:48,001 --> 00:04:50,731 Because I have to build the world around the characters 104 00:04:50,731 --> 00:04:51,601 as-- 105 00:04:51,601 --> 00:04:53,911 as I'm generating it, and-- 106 00:04:53,911 --> 00:04:55,381 because otherwise it's too vague, 107 00:04:55,381 --> 00:04:57,461 it's-- it's too imprecise. 108 00:04:57,461 --> 00:05:01,246 So in my particular case, I write a very long treatment. 109 00:05:01,246 --> 00:05:03,121 In fact, people used to joke that it was more 110 00:05:03,121 --> 00:05:04,651 of a script than a treatment. 111 00:05:04,651 --> 00:05:07,531 We at first jokingly, and then ultimately just adopted 112 00:05:07,531 --> 00:05:10,851 the term scriptment, because it had all of the-- 113 00:05:10,851 --> 00:05:13,461 had all of the scenes and had a lot of the dialogue, 114 00:05:13,461 --> 00:05:15,711 it just wasn't in proper script form 115 00:05:15,711 --> 00:05:19,551 because I held on to that kind of novelistic way of writing 116 00:05:19,551 --> 00:05:23,061 prose and dialogue, because it was freer, it was looser. 117 00:05:23,061 --> 00:05:25,881 I could say an argument happens. 118 00:05:25,881 --> 00:05:28,191 Or I could actually write the argument out. 119 00:05:28,191 --> 00:05:32,131 So I tried to take the formality out of the process. 120 00:05:32,131 --> 00:05:34,551 This was just-- I'm speaking for my own development, 121 00:05:34,551 --> 00:05:37,071 and all writers develop differently, all screenwriters 122 00:05:37,071 --> 00:05:38,421 develop differently. 123 00:05:38,421 --> 00:05:43,311 But I think anyone aspiring to be a filmmaker, you know, 124 00:05:43,311 --> 00:05:47,301 the person sitting in this chair still needs to understand 125 00:05:47,301 --> 00:05:50,061 the writing process, even if you know that one 126 00:05:50,061 --> 00:05:52,341 of your limitations is you're not great with dialogue 127 00:05:52,341 --> 00:05:53,811 or you-- you can't-- 128 00:05:53,811 --> 00:05:57,501 you don't think structurally like a writer does. 129 00:05:57,501 --> 00:06:00,261 Or mastering the art of the scene 130 00:06:00,261 --> 00:06:02,571 because scene writing is-- is an art in and of it-- 131 00:06:02,571 --> 00:06:03,741 in and of itself. 132 00:06:03,741 --> 00:06:06,044 Maybe that's not your thing and you're more visual, 133 00:06:06,044 --> 00:06:07,461 and you just want to grab a camera 134 00:06:07,461 --> 00:06:09,201 and go and let somebody else-- 135 00:06:09,201 --> 00:06:10,301 somebody else write it. 136 00:06:10,301 --> 00:06:11,031 That's fine. 137 00:06:11,031 --> 00:06:13,281 But you still need to know how to work with the writer 138 00:06:13,281 --> 00:06:15,471 to get the story to be what you want it to be. 139 00:06:20,539 --> 00:06:22,081 I believe in the three-act structure, 140 00:06:22,081 --> 00:06:24,661 I've just never succeeded in doing one. 141 00:06:24,661 --> 00:06:28,181 "Terminator's" five acts with a coda. 142 00:06:28,181 --> 00:06:30,016 "Aliens" is four acts. 143 00:06:30,016 --> 00:06:32,141 None of my stuff ever fits the three-act structure. 144 00:06:32,141 --> 00:06:35,451 I think thinking an act is good up to a point. 145 00:06:35,451 --> 00:06:38,321 It disciplines you to know that you're 146 00:06:38,321 --> 00:06:41,171 coming up to a transition point in the film. 147 00:06:41,171 --> 00:06:42,761 If you think in terms of act breaks, 148 00:06:42,761 --> 00:06:45,401 you'll create transitions that are interesting. 149 00:06:45,401 --> 00:06:46,901 They always say that you want to end 150 00:06:46,901 --> 00:06:51,581 act one with some kind of sense of-- of stating 151 00:06:51,581 --> 00:06:54,161 the main character's main problem, 152 00:06:54,161 --> 00:06:57,386 and if there's an adversary pitting the main character 153 00:06:57,386 --> 00:06:59,261 against the adversary, there's certain things 154 00:06:59,261 --> 00:07:00,469 that need to be accomplished. 155 00:07:00,469 --> 00:07:01,979 Or the journey begins. 156 00:07:01,979 --> 00:07:04,271 You can follow different-- different schools of thought 157 00:07:04,271 --> 00:07:04,781 around that. 158 00:07:04,781 --> 00:07:08,261 You can-- you know, Shakespeare worked in a five-act structure 159 00:07:08,261 --> 00:07:09,431 very often. 160 00:07:09,431 --> 00:07:11,501 So there are no hard-- hard rules. 161 00:07:11,501 --> 00:07:13,121 Quentin Tarantino takes the action 162 00:07:13,121 --> 00:07:18,191 and just moves them around into different orders, you know? 163 00:07:18,191 --> 00:07:20,201 So there are no-- there are no real rules, 164 00:07:20,201 --> 00:07:23,411 but I think it's good to know the rules before you 165 00:07:23,411 --> 00:07:24,281 break them. 166 00:07:24,281 --> 00:07:27,221 When I'm standing on a whiteboard in a writer's room 167 00:07:27,221 --> 00:07:29,411 with other writers, it's very helpful 168 00:07:29,411 --> 00:07:31,391 to think in a three-act structure, 169 00:07:31,391 --> 00:07:33,311 because everybody gets that, you know? 170 00:07:33,311 --> 00:07:35,291 What's my first act act out? 171 00:07:35,291 --> 00:07:39,131 What is the big thing I want to do to set up-- to really set 172 00:07:39,131 --> 00:07:40,091 the story in motion? 173 00:07:40,091 --> 00:07:43,961 All my kind of throat-clearing and my establishing in my world 174 00:07:43,961 --> 00:07:47,381 building all has to culminate to some point 175 00:07:47,381 --> 00:07:49,661 where we define the conflict, we've 176 00:07:49,661 --> 00:07:51,281 set the character's problem, and now 177 00:07:51,281 --> 00:07:56,091 the story's in motion at high speed beyond-- beyond that. 178 00:07:56,091 --> 00:07:57,361 So that's helpful. 179 00:07:57,361 --> 00:07:59,831 And then what do I need to accomplish in my second act? 180 00:07:59,831 --> 00:08:01,601 And then what's my-- 181 00:08:01,601 --> 00:08:03,611 what's my kick-off for my third act? 182 00:08:03,611 --> 00:08:06,881 And then-- because I often find that third acts are kind 183 00:08:06,881 --> 00:08:09,101 of a story within the story. 184 00:08:09,101 --> 00:08:11,801 That third act reiterates a lot of what's 185 00:08:11,801 --> 00:08:14,651 been-- been seen previously and brings it all to a head 186 00:08:14,651 --> 00:08:18,101 and to a-- to either a final conflict or a final culmination 187 00:08:18,101 --> 00:08:20,351 or some kind of emotional catharsis, 188 00:08:20,351 --> 00:08:21,611 and then it resolves. 189 00:08:21,611 --> 00:08:23,351 Or in some cases it doesn't resolve, 190 00:08:23,351 --> 00:08:27,551 and the not resolving is part of the comment or part 191 00:08:27,551 --> 00:08:29,331 of the-- part of the message. 192 00:08:29,331 --> 00:08:31,791 So I think-- you know, read the books, 193 00:08:31,791 --> 00:08:33,041 there are plenty of books on-- 194 00:08:33,041 --> 00:08:34,330 on screenwriting. 195 00:08:34,330 --> 00:08:38,381 Read the books, know the rules, and then just break them. 196 00:08:45,081 --> 00:08:49,281 All art has meaning, and that meaning may be overt, 197 00:08:49,281 --> 00:08:52,941 it may be a lesson, it might be a social object lesson 198 00:08:52,941 --> 00:08:56,091 for something that needs to be understood and felt 199 00:08:56,091 --> 00:08:58,851 and requires an empathetic response. 200 00:08:58,851 --> 00:09:03,871 And maybe it has a meaning for you individually. 201 00:09:03,871 --> 00:09:07,581 Some kind of object lesson about the value of duty 202 00:09:07,581 --> 00:09:10,011 or the value of friendship or the value of love 203 00:09:10,011 --> 00:09:12,501 or the price of love, you know? 204 00:09:12,501 --> 00:09:14,451 I read an interesting thing-- 205 00:09:14,451 --> 00:09:18,141 interesting quote-- grief is the price of love. 206 00:09:18,141 --> 00:09:19,221 It was a mother-- 207 00:09:19,221 --> 00:09:20,871 not-- not an artist, not a writer. 208 00:09:20,871 --> 00:09:24,621 It was a mother who had lost someone very close to them-- 209 00:09:24,621 --> 00:09:25,431 I think a child. 210 00:09:25,431 --> 00:09:27,471 And it was just a quote in a newspaper. 211 00:09:27,471 --> 00:09:28,341 You know. 212 00:09:28,341 --> 00:09:30,591 She was-- she was hurting, she was in deep pain. 213 00:09:30,591 --> 00:09:33,721 She said, it's the price of love. 214 00:09:33,721 --> 00:09:36,391 And I thought, that is profound. 215 00:09:36,391 --> 00:09:37,471 That is really profound. 216 00:09:37,471 --> 00:09:40,621 Of course, I mean, we all-- love is a good thing, right? 217 00:09:40,621 --> 00:09:43,201 Right up until it isn't, when it-- it hurts. 218 00:09:43,201 --> 00:09:46,351 Hurts because you lose someone close to you, 219 00:09:46,351 --> 00:09:49,621 you lose contact with them, or they reject you or they die, 220 00:09:49,621 --> 00:09:51,721 whatever-- whatever it is, you know? 221 00:09:51,721 --> 00:09:53,521 And there is a price to be paid. 222 00:09:53,521 --> 00:09:55,421 There's a price to be paid for everything. 223 00:09:55,421 --> 00:09:58,591 And so maybe that's the object lesson of the film. 224 00:09:58,591 --> 00:10:01,651 And maybe that allows us to go on that journey 225 00:10:01,651 --> 00:10:04,261 without having to go through the actual loss. 226 00:10:04,261 --> 00:10:07,681 So films are a way to kind of experience things, 227 00:10:07,681 --> 00:10:10,621 like, you know, kind of a training simulation before we 228 00:10:10,621 --> 00:10:11,599 actually get there. 229 00:10:11,599 --> 00:10:13,141 So it's up to the filmmaker, I think, 230 00:10:13,141 --> 00:10:16,221 to be authentic about emotions. 231 00:10:16,221 --> 00:10:18,221 I mean, the actors, of course, they-- they live, 232 00:10:18,221 --> 00:10:20,171 eat, and breathe authenticity. 233 00:10:20,171 --> 00:10:22,066 And it's all about the research for them 234 00:10:22,066 --> 00:10:24,851 and-- and the truthful moment and all that. 235 00:10:24,851 --> 00:10:26,431 And I think it's up to the filmmaker 236 00:10:26,431 --> 00:10:28,831 to protect that and nurture that, and make 237 00:10:28,831 --> 00:10:31,146 sure it's there-- that the authenticity is there 238 00:10:31,146 --> 00:10:31,771 in the writing. 239 00:10:37,741 --> 00:10:41,521 I had a studio executive-- top, top studio executive 240 00:10:41,521 --> 00:10:45,151 say on "Avatar," we really like this script, but is there a way 241 00:10:45,151 --> 00:10:47,401 that you can take out some of the kind of hippie, 242 00:10:47,401 --> 00:10:50,081 tree-hugging kind of-- kind of stuff? 243 00:10:50,081 --> 00:10:52,081 And I said, no, because it's exactly 244 00:10:52,081 --> 00:10:54,931 the hippie tree-hugging stuff is the reason I 245 00:10:54,931 --> 00:10:55,971 want to make the movie. 246 00:10:55,971 --> 00:10:59,974 So if that's important to you, then we're kind of done here 247 00:10:59,974 --> 00:11:01,641 and I'll have to take it somewhere else. 248 00:11:01,641 --> 00:11:03,101 Oh no, no, no! 249 00:11:03,101 --> 00:11:03,601 You know. 250 00:11:03,601 --> 00:11:05,371 So anyway, film got made with all 251 00:11:05,371 --> 00:11:06,871 the hippie tree-hugging stuff in it. 252 00:11:06,871 --> 00:11:09,031 But, you know, it was a Rubicon moment. 253 00:11:09,031 --> 00:11:11,791 I could have been jeopardizing the financing for a, you know, 254 00:11:11,791 --> 00:11:15,421 $100-plus million movie, but, you know, 255 00:11:15,421 --> 00:11:18,811 I found that as I developed my-- my stories, 256 00:11:18,811 --> 00:11:20,881 there are certain things I never let go of. 257 00:11:20,881 --> 00:11:23,311 There are certain fundamental principles 258 00:11:23,311 --> 00:11:24,451 that I never let go of. 259 00:11:24,451 --> 00:11:27,431 Maybe it's a redemption story, and that never changes, 260 00:11:27,431 --> 00:11:27,931 you know? 261 00:11:27,931 --> 00:11:32,611 So then it's a fine equipoise between being open and being 262 00:11:32,611 --> 00:11:35,131 fluid and being able to take an idea-- maybe not 263 00:11:35,131 --> 00:11:38,071 your idea, but an idea that fits and resonates 264 00:11:38,071 --> 00:11:41,731 and incorporate that without losing 265 00:11:41,731 --> 00:11:47,221 the sight of that core thing that you came there to do. 266 00:11:53,731 --> 00:11:58,141 All my films express thematically my perspective 267 00:11:58,141 --> 00:12:00,481 on existence, and a lot of those ideas 268 00:12:00,481 --> 00:12:02,551 were formed when I was just kind of wide-eyed, 269 00:12:02,551 --> 00:12:04,486 looking around the world. 270 00:12:04,486 --> 00:12:06,431 JOHN F. KENNEDY: Within the past week, 271 00:12:06,431 --> 00:12:09,691 unmistakable evidence has established the fact 272 00:12:09,691 --> 00:12:13,141 that a series of offensive missile sites 273 00:12:13,141 --> 00:12:17,059 is now in preparation on that imprisoned island. 274 00:12:17,059 --> 00:12:18,601 JAMES CAMERON: Remembering distinctly 275 00:12:18,601 --> 00:12:20,431 as a-- as a kid at the age of eight, 276 00:12:20,431 --> 00:12:24,061 seeing my dad going through how to build a fallout 277 00:12:24,061 --> 00:12:27,391 shelter in your basement at the peak of the Cuban Missile 278 00:12:27,391 --> 00:12:28,021 Crisis. 279 00:12:28,021 --> 00:12:30,831 [CHANTING] 280 00:12:33,061 --> 00:12:35,881 Seeing the rise of environmentalism 281 00:12:35,881 --> 00:12:40,381 in the early '70s and seeing the world potentially becoming 282 00:12:40,381 --> 00:12:42,181 a toxic wasteland. 283 00:12:42,181 --> 00:12:47,701 All those sorts of dystopian anxieties. 284 00:12:47,701 --> 00:12:50,971 So for me, the-- the nuclear holocaust of the future 285 00:12:50,971 --> 00:12:55,021 in "Terminator" maps directly thematically to the destruction 286 00:12:55,021 --> 00:12:58,321 of "Titanic" where people just kind of blithely sailed 287 00:12:58,321 --> 00:13:02,641 on right into an iceberg, and their world, the microcosm-- 288 00:13:02,641 --> 00:13:04,441 the world of that movie, because you 289 00:13:04,441 --> 00:13:07,741 see very little besides the ship itself in that film, 290 00:13:07,741 --> 00:13:09,181 sinks out from underneath them. 291 00:13:09,181 --> 00:13:10,711 It's destroyed, and it takes down 292 00:13:10,711 --> 00:13:13,951 the rich with the poor as well, which 293 00:13:13,951 --> 00:13:17,471 obviously is a metaphor for our world right now with climate 294 00:13:17,471 --> 00:13:17,971 change. 295 00:13:17,971 --> 00:13:21,361 All the rich people that are-- that are propagating climate 296 00:13:21,361 --> 00:13:24,114 change, all the big corporations, and people 297 00:13:24,114 --> 00:13:26,281 who think they're going to be above the consequences 298 00:13:26,281 --> 00:13:27,781 will not be, you know? 299 00:13:27,781 --> 00:13:30,421 We're all in one world and we're all in it together. 300 00:13:30,421 --> 00:13:32,191 So, you know, I think that the-- 301 00:13:32,191 --> 00:13:36,241 but I think the films, I try to keep them from being preachy. 302 00:13:36,241 --> 00:13:39,901 I try to keep them from being too on the nose. 303 00:13:39,901 --> 00:13:43,211 But the message is there if you-- if you want to see it. 304 00:13:43,211 --> 00:13:46,261 And I think it's consistent about the power 305 00:13:46,261 --> 00:13:50,201 of the individual, the strength of women. 306 00:13:50,201 --> 00:13:52,631 You know, my-- my kind of jaundiced view 307 00:13:52,631 --> 00:13:56,411 of organizational systems and authority. 308 00:13:56,411 --> 00:13:58,181 You know, being a child of the '60s, 309 00:13:58,181 --> 00:14:00,401 I have an innate dislike for authority. 310 00:14:00,401 --> 00:14:02,521 1 00:00:02,967 --> 00:00:06,895 2 00:00:15,733 --> 00:00:18,251 JAMES CAMERON: When we buy a movie ticket, 3 00:00:18,251 --> 00:00:19,931 we're putting our-- we're creating 4 00:00:19,931 --> 00:00:21,311 a little bit of a social contract 5 00:00:21,311 --> 00:00:24,491 with a bunch of people we never met to go into a dark room 6 00:00:24,491 --> 00:00:28,211 and experience something and be quiet and be passive and be 7 00:00:28,211 --> 00:00:31,931 submissive and not stop, not stop the experience. 8 00:00:31,931 --> 00:00:34,541 The experience is in a dominant position 9 00:00:34,541 --> 00:00:36,591 relative to our consciousness. 10 00:00:36,591 --> 00:00:38,651 And we do it willingly because it's 11 00:00:38,651 --> 00:00:43,181 one of the few times in our lives where we do that, 12 00:00:43,181 --> 00:00:46,721 and where we stop our phone from ringing, 13 00:00:46,721 --> 00:00:48,281 and we give ourselves that respite, 14 00:00:48,281 --> 00:00:52,001 and we give ourselves a moment, might be a two-hour moment, 15 00:00:52,001 --> 00:00:54,551 might be a three-hour moment, to experience something 16 00:00:54,551 --> 00:00:55,676 uninterrupted and unbroken. 17 00:00:55,676 --> 00:00:57,676 And if we have to get up and go to the bathroom, 18 00:00:57,676 --> 00:00:59,761 you run because you don't want to miss something. 19 00:00:59,761 --> 00:01:02,831 And that's a unique experience. 20 00:01:02,831 --> 00:01:06,121 I think as a filmmaker, you know that you 21 00:01:06,121 --> 00:01:09,121 have a dominant or authoritative position 22 00:01:09,121 --> 00:01:11,771 relative to the audience's consciousness. 23 00:01:11,771 --> 00:01:14,491 And you have to honor them, which 24 00:01:14,491 --> 00:01:16,471 is, I'm not going to do something 25 00:01:16,471 --> 00:01:19,593 that-- that's so obvious you can figure it out exactly. 26 00:01:19,593 --> 00:01:20,551 And you get to the end. 27 00:01:20,551 --> 00:01:22,561 And it's been predictable. 28 00:01:22,561 --> 00:01:24,991 But I also don't want to do something that's intentionally 29 00:01:24,991 --> 00:01:30,001 obscure to where I'm just sort of pirouetting how smart I am 30 00:01:30,001 --> 00:01:33,421 and all the big words I can use, and you're lost. 31 00:01:33,421 --> 00:01:36,811 And we've all seen the ones that strike that perfect balance 32 00:01:36,811 --> 00:01:39,211 where you're rewarded for having paid attention 33 00:01:39,211 --> 00:01:40,381 and picking up the clues. 34 00:01:40,381 --> 00:01:42,841 And you go, aha. 35 00:01:42,841 --> 00:01:45,301 And I think there's one thing that a lot of filmmakers 36 00:01:45,301 --> 00:01:47,641 take a while to figure out, which 37 00:01:47,641 --> 00:01:50,851 is it's okay for the audience to be ahead of you. 38 00:01:50,851 --> 00:01:55,351 It's okay because the tension that 39 00:01:55,351 --> 00:01:59,941 goes before a reveal or a cathartic moment 40 00:01:59,941 --> 00:02:03,871 is so much more delicious when it's actually paid off in a way 41 00:02:03,871 --> 00:02:08,551 that you hope for than some utter surprise that's 42 00:02:08,551 --> 00:02:09,991 not satisfying at all. 43 00:02:09,991 --> 00:02:13,291 Sometimes, filmmakers create too much importance 44 00:02:13,291 --> 00:02:18,211 around the idea of surprise versus paying off 45 00:02:18,211 --> 00:02:20,491 in a satisfying, satisfying way. 46 00:02:20,491 --> 00:02:22,351 It's all about this contract. 47 00:02:22,351 --> 00:02:25,651 It's about this dance with the audience 48 00:02:25,651 --> 00:02:29,671 and honoring them and encouraging them to participate 49 00:02:29,671 --> 00:02:30,771 and pay attention. 50 00:02:30,771 --> 00:02:31,651 [VIDEO PLAYBACK] 51 00:02:31,651 --> 00:02:34,941 Well, I can drive that loader. 52 00:02:34,941 --> 00:02:38,711 I have a class 2 rating. 53 00:02:38,711 --> 00:02:39,461 Be my guest. 54 00:02:56,189 --> 00:02:59,633 [LOADER WHIRRING] 55 00:03:12,208 --> 00:03:13,791 JAMES CAMERON: And part of the way you 56 00:03:13,791 --> 00:03:16,821 do that is you plant something, and then you pay it off. 57 00:03:16,821 --> 00:03:18,721 And you say, see how it works? 58 00:03:18,721 --> 00:03:20,061 I want to put something here. 59 00:03:20,061 --> 00:03:21,519 And you're going to think about it, 60 00:03:21,519 --> 00:03:24,037 and then-- and then it's going to be satisfying here. 61 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:27,509 62 00:03:29,493 --> 00:03:32,469 [SCREAMING] 63 00:03:50,361 --> 00:03:52,658 Get away from her, you bitch. 64 00:03:52,658 --> 00:03:53,241 [END PLAYBACK] 65 00:03:53,241 --> 00:03:55,474 JAMES CAMERON: So that creates a bit of a promise 66 00:03:55,474 --> 00:03:57,141 that we're going to continue to do that. 67 00:03:57,141 --> 00:04:00,441 We're going to do that right through to the end of the film. 68 00:04:00,441 --> 00:04:04,041 The plant might be something that only the audience knows, 69 00:04:04,041 --> 00:04:08,751 that that character needs and wants and can't express. 70 00:04:08,751 --> 00:04:12,381 And you feel that I wish I could just walk into the screen 71 00:04:12,381 --> 00:04:14,571 and shake that other person and say, look at what 72 00:04:14,571 --> 00:04:16,281 this character's going through. 73 00:04:16,281 --> 00:04:18,110 You know, you want to create that tension. 74 00:04:18,110 --> 00:04:22,461 You want to create that-- that sense of wanting to be involved 75 00:04:22,461 --> 00:04:24,621 and playing and participating. 76 00:04:24,621 --> 00:04:25,641 It's participatory. 77 00:04:25,641 --> 00:04:27,651 People say that that film is not interactive, 78 00:04:27,651 --> 00:04:28,881 that only games are-- 79 00:04:28,881 --> 00:04:30,021 are an interactive medium. 80 00:04:30,021 --> 00:04:31,051 I don't think that's true at all. 81 00:04:31,051 --> 00:04:32,593 I think films are highly interactive. 82 00:04:32,593 --> 00:04:35,091 You can't change the outcome, but you 83 00:04:35,091 --> 00:04:40,071 can imagine various outcomes in real time as you're going on. 84 00:04:40,071 --> 00:04:41,926 You're playing out those possibilities. 85 00:04:41,926 --> 00:04:42,801 It could go this way. 86 00:04:42,801 --> 00:04:43,676 It could go that way. 87 00:04:43,676 --> 00:04:45,171 It could be this, could be that. 88 00:04:45,171 --> 00:04:48,861 And if you play against the audience's expectation 89 00:04:48,861 --> 00:04:51,621 in a satisfying way, that's good. 90 00:04:51,621 --> 00:04:53,061 Keeps them playing the game. 91 00:04:53,061 --> 00:04:55,371 If you play to the audience's expectation 92 00:04:55,371 --> 00:04:58,371 in a satisfying way, something that they want to see 93 00:04:58,371 --> 00:04:59,781 happen, and then it happens-- 94 00:04:59,781 --> 00:05:00,981 maybe it doesn't happen the way they 95 00:05:00,981 --> 00:05:02,273 thought it was going to happen. 96 00:05:02,273 --> 00:05:05,713 Maybe it has to be earned in a difficult way that's 97 00:05:05,713 --> 00:05:07,671 hard for the characters, or maybe the character 98 00:05:07,671 --> 00:05:09,861 has to make the sacrifice that you 99 00:05:09,861 --> 00:05:14,151 didn't see coming to get that result that you wanted, 100 00:05:14,151 --> 00:05:14,961 you know. 101 00:05:14,961 --> 00:05:18,291 But this is all part of the dance. 102 00:05:18,291 --> 00:05:20,841 They know all the gags. 103 00:05:20,841 --> 00:05:24,981 So the question is, how do you play against it slightly? 104 00:05:24,981 --> 00:05:28,131 Or how do you use a little bit of sleight of hand 105 00:05:28,131 --> 00:05:29,871 to disguise what you're doing? 106 00:05:29,871 --> 00:05:31,851 Or how do you lead them on thinking 107 00:05:31,851 --> 00:05:34,131 that it's going to be one thing and then switch track 108 00:05:34,131 --> 00:05:35,323 into something else? 109 00:05:35,323 --> 00:05:37,281 You know, you're doing it at the writing stage. 110 00:05:37,281 --> 00:05:39,781 You should be going through the script and saying, you know, 111 00:05:39,781 --> 00:05:40,281 what-- 112 00:05:40,281 --> 00:05:42,621 what am I giving the audience here? 113 00:05:42,621 --> 00:05:45,681 What expectation does that create? 114 00:05:45,681 --> 00:05:47,181 How am I paying that off? 115 00:05:47,181 --> 00:05:50,024 Or how am I working against that expectation later? 116 00:05:50,024 --> 00:05:51,441 It's very important for filmmakers 117 00:05:51,441 --> 00:05:53,181 to ask themselves these questions. 118 00:05:53,181 --> 00:05:55,983 119 00:05:59,261 --> 00:06:02,044 Well, I think one of the first principles of building tension 120 00:06:02,044 --> 00:06:03,711 is you have to care about the character. 121 00:06:03,711 --> 00:06:06,661 And you have to understand the jeopardy 122 00:06:06,661 --> 00:06:09,851 or at least that there is jeopardy for that character. 123 00:06:09,851 --> 00:06:12,511 That might be anything from a free-floating anxiety 124 00:06:12,511 --> 00:06:14,501 that something is going to happen. 125 00:06:14,501 --> 00:06:15,841 And you don't know what it is. 126 00:06:15,841 --> 00:06:18,151 Because you've just walked into an alien spacecraft. 127 00:06:18,151 --> 00:06:20,311 Or you just walked into a haunted house. 128 00:06:20,311 --> 00:06:24,901 Or there's some kind of really bad, negative outcome 129 00:06:24,901 --> 00:06:27,901 that's tied to a ticking clock. 130 00:06:27,901 --> 00:06:31,291 You know, the classic example is the bomb under the table. 131 00:06:31,291 --> 00:06:34,561 Because I think time is a factor on building tension. 132 00:06:34,561 --> 00:06:35,941 You have to believe that it's not 133 00:06:35,941 --> 00:06:38,311 going to happen in two weeks or in an hour. 134 00:06:38,311 --> 00:06:41,071 It's going to happen in the next few seconds or maybe 135 00:06:41,071 --> 00:06:42,301 the next minute. 136 00:06:42,301 --> 00:06:45,841 So you have to be invested in the outcome. 137 00:06:45,841 --> 00:06:48,091 You have to care about the character. 138 00:06:48,091 --> 00:06:50,791 You have to be brought in subjectively enough 139 00:06:50,791 --> 00:06:54,571 into the moment that you're moving through the-- 140 00:06:54,571 --> 00:06:58,171 the world, the space, the journey with that character. 141 00:06:58,171 --> 00:07:01,021 And you have to have enough outside information 142 00:07:01,021 --> 00:07:05,191 to know that that character is going into increasing jeopardy. 143 00:07:05,191 --> 00:07:08,401 So crosscutting is a good way to do that-- 144 00:07:08,401 --> 00:07:11,101 cutting away to the adversary or the train 145 00:07:11,101 --> 00:07:14,851 coming or whatever, whatever the thing is that escalates, 146 00:07:14,851 --> 00:07:17,281 creating a constant sense of escalation, 147 00:07:17,281 --> 00:07:18,624 creating a sense of frustration. 148 00:07:18,624 --> 00:07:19,291 [VIDEO PLAYBACK] 149 00:07:19,291 --> 00:07:22,257 Don't make me bust you up, man. 150 00:07:22,257 --> 00:07:24,225 [GROANING] 151 00:07:24,225 --> 00:07:28,161 152 00:07:29,145 --> 00:07:31,605 [GLASS BREAKING] 153 00:07:32,589 --> 00:07:33,581 [GROANING] 154 00:07:33,581 --> 00:07:36,011 JAMES CAMERON: You're cutting to a very mundane scene. 155 00:07:36,011 --> 00:07:39,431 But in the context of it being a attention crosscutting 156 00:07:39,431 --> 00:07:45,371 scenario, it's a solution that might happen but isn't 157 00:07:45,371 --> 00:07:46,331 gonna happen. 158 00:07:46,331 --> 00:07:48,311 And they could have been saved but 159 00:07:48,311 --> 00:07:50,201 for had they just answered the phone, 160 00:07:50,201 --> 00:07:51,311 or something has happened. 161 00:07:51,311 --> 00:07:52,511 The ringer got turned off. 162 00:07:52,511 --> 00:07:53,801 And you've established that. 163 00:07:53,801 --> 00:07:56,661 You're building tension in all these ways. 164 00:07:56,661 --> 00:07:59,231 You have to be led to believe as the audience 165 00:07:59,231 --> 00:08:01,901 that something is going to happen soon, 166 00:08:01,901 --> 00:08:04,851 and then you prolong it. 167 00:08:04,851 --> 00:08:06,646 You don't just make it happen. 168 00:08:06,646 --> 00:08:07,271 You prolong it. 169 00:08:07,271 --> 00:08:11,561 So you've informed the audience in some way stylistically 170 00:08:11,561 --> 00:08:15,041 that something bad is going to happen, or something very bad 171 00:08:15,041 --> 00:08:19,571 could happen to your character, and then you prolong. 172 00:08:19,571 --> 00:08:22,421 So you've told them to be in that state, 173 00:08:22,421 --> 00:08:25,451 and then you suspend that state and then hold them 174 00:08:25,451 --> 00:08:26,601 in that state. 175 00:08:26,601 --> 00:08:29,441 So they don't feel like it's getting just snatched away 176 00:08:29,441 --> 00:08:32,721 from them before they've had a chance to experience and feel 177 00:08:32,721 --> 00:08:33,221 it. 178 00:08:33,221 --> 00:08:35,861 Now, that might be a happy-- a state of happiness, 179 00:08:35,861 --> 00:08:39,111 might be a state of wonder. 180 00:08:39,111 --> 00:08:42,041 You don't want to give them a little taste of wonder 181 00:08:42,041 --> 00:08:43,841 and then take it away. 182 00:08:43,841 --> 00:08:45,401 You want to stay in it. 183 00:08:49,041 --> 00:08:50,461 So tension is the same thing. 184 00:08:50,461 --> 00:08:52,701 So there's a prolongation of tension, 185 00:08:52,701 --> 00:08:56,481 and that's usually done with crosscutting two narratives 186 00:08:56,481 --> 00:09:01,152 that you feel are converging to each other. 187 00:09:01,152 --> 00:09:04,038 188 00:09:07,891 --> 00:09:10,211 There are entire films that build tension 189 00:09:10,211 --> 00:09:11,711 across the arc of the film, or there 190 00:09:11,711 --> 00:09:14,551 are films that build tension across an entire act 191 00:09:14,551 --> 00:09:16,621 of the film, let's say. 192 00:09:16,621 --> 00:09:19,741 So "Titanic" would be an example where tension slowly 193 00:09:19,741 --> 00:09:21,671 builds over time. 194 00:09:21,671 --> 00:09:22,493 Here's a clue. 195 00:09:22,493 --> 00:09:23,701 They got the iceberg warning. 196 00:09:23,701 --> 00:09:25,953 Captain puts it in his pocket, doesn't do anything, 197 00:09:25,953 --> 00:09:26,911 tells them to speed up. 198 00:09:26,911 --> 00:09:27,578 [VIDEO PLAYBACK] 199 00:09:27,578 --> 00:09:29,191 Oh, not to worry. 200 00:09:29,191 --> 00:09:31,841 Quite normal for this time of year. 201 00:09:31,841 --> 00:09:33,391 In fact, we're speeding up. 202 00:09:33,391 --> 00:09:35,088 I've just ordered the last boilers lit. 203 00:09:35,088 --> 00:09:35,671 [END PLAYBACK] 204 00:09:35,671 --> 00:09:37,588 JAMES CAMERON: It's like, well, wait a minute. 205 00:09:37,588 --> 00:09:38,821 There's an iceberg ahead. 206 00:09:38,821 --> 00:09:42,421 So you're building tension at a relatively mild level. 207 00:09:42,421 --> 00:09:44,491 Once they hit the iceberg, now you're 208 00:09:44,491 --> 00:09:47,161 building tension for your main characters. 209 00:09:47,161 --> 00:09:48,121 Who's going to get off? 210 00:09:48,121 --> 00:09:49,413 How are they going to be saved? 211 00:09:49,413 --> 00:09:52,171 What are the obstacles that are going to be in their path? 212 00:09:52,171 --> 00:09:56,261 Bad stuff is coming, and we move relentlessly toward that. 213 00:09:56,261 --> 00:09:59,461 And we even, you know, release the tension for a while. 214 00:09:59,461 --> 00:10:02,071 You know, Rose gets in the lifeboat, and it's very sad. 215 00:10:02,071 --> 00:10:05,081 But you know at least she's going to get away. 216 00:10:05,081 --> 00:10:07,261 Then she jumps back on the ship. 217 00:10:07,261 --> 00:10:09,146 Now you've just ratcheted it up again. 218 00:10:09,146 --> 00:10:11,521 It's important to understand the sort of the meta tension 219 00:10:11,521 --> 00:10:15,031 that can rise across an entire section of a movie 220 00:10:15,031 --> 00:10:19,741 until it has some kind of cathartic or pivotal ending. 221 00:10:19,741 --> 00:10:24,181 In that case, the ship plunges, the scene on the raft. 222 00:10:24,181 --> 00:10:26,941 And Jack dies, and then you get into the kind 223 00:10:26,941 --> 00:10:29,701 of series of codas that kind of resolve 224 00:10:29,701 --> 00:10:33,581 the film emotionally and thematically. 225 00:10:33,581 --> 00:10:37,601 But-- and the tension is released at that point. 226 00:10:37,601 --> 00:10:40,511 And a great example, recent example, is "Dunkirk." 227 00:10:40,511 --> 00:10:43,541 That's two hours-plus of just rising tension. 228 00:10:43,541 --> 00:10:47,051 And it's very skillfully done. 229 00:10:47,051 --> 00:10:49,391 And the score is a major component of that. 230 00:10:49,391 --> 00:10:51,821 It just builds and builds and builds. 231 00:10:51,821 --> 00:10:54,071 And there's just this feeling of dread and anxiety 232 00:10:54,071 --> 00:10:56,171 that builds across that entire film 233 00:10:56,171 --> 00:10:58,091 until those characters finally get pulled off 234 00:10:58,091 --> 00:10:59,728 that beach at the end. 235 00:10:59,728 --> 00:11:01,311 And they're on those boats going home. 236 00:11:01,311 --> 00:11:02,519 And you feel like you've won. 237 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:07,851 You've earned this feeling of-- of delivery, of transport. 238 00:11:07,851 --> 00:11:10,601 And so, you know, that's a case where it just 239 00:11:10,601 --> 00:11:13,691 was unrelenting across the entire movie on a-- on a rising 240 00:11:13,691 --> 00:11:14,351 curve. 241 00:11:14,351 --> 00:11:16,031 And that's an incredible thing to be 242 00:11:16,031 --> 00:11:18,581 able to modulate that-- that way. 243 00:11:18,581 --> 00:11:22,301 So tension is an art, and it's a discipline. 244 00:11:22,301 --> 00:11:24,161 And it can come in small amounts. 245 00:11:24,161 --> 00:11:26,201 It can come in longer sections. 246 00:11:26,201 --> 00:11:28,721 And it come-- and it can come across an entire-- 247 00:11:28,721 --> 00:11:30,101 entire story arc. 248 00:11:30,101 --> 00:11:32,201 249 00:11:33,401 --> 00:11:35,501 [CHEERING] 250 00:11:35,501 --> 00:11:38,851 1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:03,009 [DANCE MUSIC] 2 00:00:21,933 --> 00:00:24,921 [OMINOUS MUSIC] 3 00:00:33,178 --> 00:00:34,761 JAMES CAMERON: In this scene, what you 4 00:00:34,761 --> 00:00:37,131 have is the convergence of three separate plotlines. 5 00:00:37,131 --> 00:00:40,881 So that was a structural motif that was used for that film. 6 00:00:40,881 --> 00:00:44,601 We follow in a third-person omniscient way, 7 00:00:44,601 --> 00:00:48,741 jumping back and forth, between three storylines-- 8 00:00:48,741 --> 00:00:53,031 Sarah, introducing her and getting to know her 9 00:00:53,031 --> 00:00:55,731 and presumably like her to some extent. 10 00:00:55,731 --> 00:00:58,634 And then we see the Terminator arrive through time. 11 00:00:58,634 --> 00:01:00,801 We don't know it's through time, but we sort of know 12 00:01:00,801 --> 00:01:03,531 he's come from somewhere, and see him start 13 00:01:03,531 --> 00:01:05,751 hunting down and killing-- 14 00:01:05,751 --> 00:01:08,106 brutally killing people with her name. 15 00:01:08,106 --> 00:01:10,731 So even though they haven't met, and the two storylines haven't 16 00:01:10,731 --> 00:01:13,191 converged yet, there's already an interrelationship 17 00:01:13,191 --> 00:01:14,841 between those two storylines. 18 00:01:14,841 --> 00:01:18,311 Kyle Reese comes through time same way. 19 00:01:18,311 --> 00:01:21,551 Although his arrival is much messier and rougher on him 20 00:01:21,551 --> 00:01:23,681 than it is on the Terminator, we can 21 00:01:23,681 --> 00:01:25,991 make the assumption he has come from the same place. 22 00:01:25,991 --> 00:01:28,068 He is from whatever that world is. 23 00:01:28,068 --> 00:01:30,401 So there's already a connection between the two of them. 24 00:01:30,401 --> 00:01:32,771 And we don't know if he's a good guy or another bad guy. 25 00:01:32,771 --> 00:01:35,951 He certainly acts very, very sinister. 26 00:01:35,951 --> 00:01:40,931 But I think we innately sense that he's probably 27 00:01:40,931 --> 00:01:42,371 a protagonist. 28 00:01:42,371 --> 00:01:44,801 And he goes through getting weapons, getting clothes, 29 00:01:44,801 --> 00:01:47,021 doing the same things the Terminator does, just 30 00:01:47,021 --> 00:01:47,871 in a different way. 31 00:01:47,871 --> 00:01:48,621 He's more furtive. 32 00:01:48,621 --> 00:01:49,841 He doesn't hurt anybody. 33 00:01:49,841 --> 00:01:52,601 The Terminator just bulldozes through whatever 34 00:01:52,601 --> 00:01:54,381 to get his objectives. 35 00:01:54,381 --> 00:01:55,921 So they're contrasted to each other. 36 00:01:55,921 --> 00:01:58,349 So even though they're clearly both soldiers, 37 00:01:58,349 --> 00:01:59,891 they're both sinister, the Terminator 38 00:01:59,891 --> 00:02:03,491 is the more is the more disturbing of the two. 39 00:02:03,491 --> 00:02:06,371 And they're both stalking Sarah. 40 00:02:06,371 --> 00:02:09,940 Terminator's is moving toward her in this relentless fashion, 41 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:11,651 Reese is following her. 42 00:02:11,651 --> 00:02:13,661 So is he-- we don't know if he's a protector, 43 00:02:13,661 --> 00:02:15,671 or if he's a good guy, if he's a bad guy. 44 00:02:15,671 --> 00:02:19,781 But we feel a relentless sense that the three storylines 45 00:02:19,781 --> 00:02:21,493 are converging. 46 00:02:21,493 --> 00:02:22,981 [DANCE MUSIC] 47 00:02:22,981 --> 00:02:25,831 The music is pounding. 48 00:02:25,831 --> 00:02:27,843 So she sits down. 49 00:02:27,843 --> 00:02:28,426 She's nervous. 50 00:02:28,426 --> 00:02:30,296 [DANCE MUSIC] 51 00:02:30,296 --> 00:02:30,796 And-- 52 00:02:30,796 --> 00:02:32,804 [DANCE MUSIC] 53 00:02:32,804 --> 00:02:33,721 --Terminator walks in. 54 00:02:33,721 --> 00:02:34,811 [DANCE MUSIC] 55 00:02:34,811 --> 00:02:37,021 The music tells me, I'm in the same club. 56 00:02:37,021 --> 00:02:38,951 I'm at the door of the club. 57 00:02:38,951 --> 00:02:39,811 He's there. 58 00:02:39,811 --> 00:02:41,911 He's in the room with her. 59 00:02:41,911 --> 00:02:43,501 The killer that we've seen brutally 60 00:02:43,501 --> 00:02:47,011 kill two other people in his hunt for her 61 00:02:47,011 --> 00:02:50,521 and kill the gun shop owner to get the weapons to do so 62 00:02:50,521 --> 00:02:51,911 is now in the room. 63 00:02:51,911 --> 00:02:53,281 So it's going to happen. 64 00:02:53,281 --> 00:02:54,791 It's going to go down. 65 00:02:54,791 --> 00:03:00,071 So we've just started the clock on our chess move. 66 00:03:00,071 --> 00:03:01,388 We've just started the clock. 67 00:03:01,388 --> 00:03:02,471 And the audience knows it. 68 00:03:02,471 --> 00:03:06,641 And they know that this is the beginning of a thing, a set 69 00:03:06,641 --> 00:03:09,371 piece, if you will, a scene. 70 00:03:09,371 --> 00:03:10,514 It just started. 71 00:03:10,514 --> 00:03:12,431 The second you put them both in the same room, 72 00:03:12,431 --> 00:03:14,891 or in the same space, you've just 73 00:03:14,891 --> 00:03:17,351 said to the audience, all right, guys, it's on. 74 00:03:17,351 --> 00:03:18,221 Right? 75 00:03:18,221 --> 00:03:19,731 Now what's going to happen? 76 00:03:19,731 --> 00:03:21,741 So the jeopardy just shot up. 77 00:03:21,741 --> 00:03:23,241 The jeopardy's been slowly building. 78 00:03:23,241 --> 00:03:24,881 It just shot up to a new level. 79 00:03:24,881 --> 00:03:26,321 [DANCE MUSIC] 80 00:03:26,321 --> 00:03:29,771 Terminator moves in his very machine-like like fashion 81 00:03:29,771 --> 00:03:31,331 searching. 82 00:03:31,331 --> 00:03:32,411 Right? 83 00:03:32,411 --> 00:03:35,109 The clerk tells the bouncer to stop him. 84 00:03:35,109 --> 00:03:36,401 He just crushes the guy's hand. 85 00:03:36,401 --> 00:03:37,671 He doesn't even look at him. 86 00:03:37,671 --> 00:03:39,521 He just glances at him and then moves away. 87 00:03:39,521 --> 00:03:40,721 Now he's in scan mode. 88 00:03:40,721 --> 00:03:43,371 The hunter, killer, machine scanning like a surveillance 89 00:03:43,371 --> 00:03:43,871 camera. 90 00:03:43,871 --> 00:03:46,031 [DANCE MUSIC] 91 00:03:46,031 --> 00:03:47,921 His eyes scan, then his head turns 92 00:03:47,921 --> 00:03:49,961 to give him more compliance. 93 00:03:49,961 --> 00:03:51,363 Then his eyes scan the other way. 94 00:03:51,363 --> 00:03:52,571 Then he has to move his head. 95 00:03:52,571 --> 00:03:53,441 It's unnatural. 96 00:03:53,441 --> 00:03:54,071 It's not human. 97 00:03:54,071 --> 00:03:55,211 It's machine-like. 98 00:03:55,211 --> 00:03:59,223 It's like a surveillance camera scanning. 99 00:03:59,223 --> 00:04:01,181 So that's something that we worked out together 100 00:04:01,181 --> 00:04:01,661 in rehearsal. 101 00:04:01,661 --> 00:04:02,381 Now here's Sarah. 102 00:04:02,381 --> 00:04:05,621 You cut back to the victim, the innocent victim, Bambi. 103 00:04:05,621 --> 00:04:06,121 You know? 104 00:04:06,121 --> 00:04:08,163 Here comes the hunter tromping through the woods. 105 00:04:08,163 --> 00:04:08,951 Here's Bambi. 106 00:04:08,951 --> 00:04:09,701 It's intercutting. 107 00:04:09,701 --> 00:04:14,621 The intercutting intensifies the sense of expectation 108 00:04:14,621 --> 00:04:16,211 and builds suspense. 109 00:04:16,211 --> 00:04:17,871 Something is going to happen. 110 00:04:17,871 --> 00:04:18,790 It is inevitable. 111 00:04:18,790 --> 00:04:19,781 He will find her. 112 00:04:19,781 --> 00:04:21,800 He's very thorough. 113 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,741 So we've established him searching 114 00:04:23,741 --> 00:04:26,591 in a very machine-like and thorough fashion. 115 00:04:26,591 --> 00:04:30,761 And we've established her sitting there and essentially 116 00:04:30,761 --> 00:04:32,231 helpless and worried. 117 00:04:32,231 --> 00:04:34,091 Back to him scanning some more. 118 00:04:34,091 --> 00:04:35,471 Same principle. 119 00:04:35,471 --> 00:04:36,521 Back to her. 120 00:04:36,521 --> 00:04:39,051 Rising tension by intercutting. 121 00:04:39,051 --> 00:04:39,551 Right? 122 00:04:39,551 --> 00:04:41,751 [DANCE MUSIC] 123 00:04:41,751 --> 00:04:43,641 Here comes the big move. 124 00:04:43,641 --> 00:04:47,961 She knocks the water bottle off her table. 125 00:04:47,961 --> 00:04:50,991 And we go into slow motion. 126 00:04:50,991 --> 00:04:53,511 We're telling the audience something. 127 00:04:53,511 --> 00:04:58,401 The Terminator walks into the frame scanning relentlessly, 128 00:04:58,401 --> 00:05:01,041 doesn't see her, misses her completely. 129 00:05:01,041 --> 00:05:03,496 The timing was-- we had to do this shot a few times, 130 00:05:03,496 --> 00:05:05,121 obviously, to get the timing perfectly. 131 00:05:05,121 --> 00:05:07,311 The way he appears through the dancers. 132 00:05:07,311 --> 00:05:10,171 The waitresses cross. 133 00:05:10,171 --> 00:05:12,681 It's very stacked. 134 00:05:12,681 --> 00:05:14,521 This is using a long lens. 135 00:05:14,521 --> 00:05:18,471 If I had done this on a short lens, a wide lens, 136 00:05:18,471 --> 00:05:19,951 I'd have seen too much background. 137 00:05:19,951 --> 00:05:21,534 I wouldn't have been selective enough. 138 00:05:21,534 --> 00:05:23,181 My waitress crossing in the foreground 139 00:05:23,181 --> 00:05:25,864 would have been the size of the Hindenburg. 140 00:05:25,864 --> 00:05:27,031 Sarah would have been a big. 141 00:05:27,031 --> 00:05:28,711 Terminator would have been little. 142 00:05:28,711 --> 00:05:32,251 The farther I move back, the longer the focal length I use. 143 00:05:32,251 --> 00:05:34,621 The more I stack the shot, the more 144 00:05:34,621 --> 00:05:38,521 I compress the space, the bigger he is. 145 00:05:38,521 --> 00:05:42,001 And the more I'm able to look through a number of dancing 146 00:05:42,001 --> 00:05:43,981 bodies and sort of graphic forms that 147 00:05:43,981 --> 00:05:46,321 are out of focus to see him. 148 00:05:46,321 --> 00:05:47,411 He's the plant of focus. 149 00:05:47,411 --> 00:05:47,941 She's not. 150 00:05:47,941 --> 00:05:48,791 She's not. 151 00:05:48,791 --> 00:05:49,291 Right? 152 00:05:49,291 --> 00:05:50,371 So this is selective. 153 00:05:50,371 --> 00:05:53,641 This is being highly selective, leading the audience's eye 154 00:05:53,641 --> 00:06:00,071 in a selective fashion, by using composition, lighting, focus. 155 00:06:00,071 --> 00:06:00,701 He misses her. 156 00:06:00,701 --> 00:06:01,451 She comes back up. 157 00:06:01,451 --> 00:06:02,501 She didn't see him-- 158 00:06:02,501 --> 00:06:04,931 not that she even knows what he looks like. 159 00:06:07,701 --> 00:06:09,381 Innocent victim, again. 160 00:06:09,381 --> 00:06:11,601 We're just reminding the audience who 161 00:06:11,601 --> 00:06:13,401 our protagonist is, and the fact that she 162 00:06:13,401 --> 00:06:14,631 doesn't know what's coming. 163 00:06:14,631 --> 00:06:18,551 And it just missed her. 164 00:06:18,551 --> 00:06:21,131 But we have another escalation. 165 00:06:21,131 --> 00:06:23,591 In her eyes, in that moment, and it's 166 00:06:23,591 --> 00:06:27,041 aided and abetted by a little flush of light from the dance 167 00:06:27,041 --> 00:06:30,231 floor as two dancers part. 168 00:06:30,231 --> 00:06:32,391 In slow motion, she sees something. 169 00:06:32,391 --> 00:06:34,341 Now I haven't seen what she sees yet. 170 00:06:34,341 --> 00:06:35,923 She could be seeing the Terminator. 171 00:06:35,923 --> 00:06:37,881 But why would she be alarmed at the Terminator? 172 00:06:37,881 --> 00:06:39,891 She's never seen the Terminator. 173 00:06:39,891 --> 00:06:42,231 She sees something, and we see it in her face. 174 00:06:42,231 --> 00:06:45,081 And this is a beautiful piece of editing by Mark Goldblatt. 175 00:06:45,081 --> 00:06:48,261 He holds on it just enough frames for you 176 00:06:48,261 --> 00:06:49,951 to see her see something. 177 00:06:49,951 --> 00:06:51,471 And we don't know what it is. 178 00:06:51,471 --> 00:06:55,071 And these are magical shots when you're able to get them. 179 00:06:55,071 --> 00:06:57,531 When the character-- she's not doing anything. 180 00:06:57,531 --> 00:07:01,381 It'd be very hard to express it in a storyboard. 181 00:07:01,381 --> 00:07:03,821 It's something changes. 182 00:07:03,821 --> 00:07:08,621 And what she sees is Reese, the person that she knows, 183 00:07:08,621 --> 00:07:10,511 that she's seen stalking her. 184 00:07:10,511 --> 00:07:12,911 Now she is afraid of this guy. 185 00:07:12,911 --> 00:07:15,221 She doesn't even know about the other guy yet. 186 00:07:15,221 --> 00:07:16,541 Reese's eyes come up. 187 00:07:16,541 --> 00:07:18,421 [DISTORTED DANCE MUSIC] 188 00:07:18,421 --> 00:07:19,561 And he sees something. 189 00:07:19,561 --> 00:07:20,471 He sees her. 190 00:07:20,471 --> 00:07:22,901 Their eyes meet in a mirror. 191 00:07:22,901 --> 00:07:23,951 It's a love story. 192 00:07:23,951 --> 00:07:25,811 Their eyes meet across a crowded room. 193 00:07:25,811 --> 00:07:28,121 It's a love story with shotguns. 194 00:07:28,121 --> 00:07:33,159 Another long lens shot that this suggests-- and to this day, 195 00:07:33,159 --> 00:07:35,451 I don't remember if this is supposed to be Sarah's hair 196 00:07:35,451 --> 00:07:36,021 or not. 197 00:07:36,021 --> 00:07:38,241 But I'm shooting over her, and it's a stacked shot. 198 00:07:38,241 --> 00:07:40,311 Or there's just some random foreground. 199 00:07:40,311 --> 00:07:43,191 I think it's a bit of random foreground. 200 00:07:43,191 --> 00:07:45,021 But it's a long lens shot. 201 00:07:45,021 --> 00:07:48,981 So it suggests that her brain has 202 00:07:48,981 --> 00:07:52,161 excluded the entire environment in between her and him 203 00:07:52,161 --> 00:07:52,701 and gone-- 204 00:07:52,701 --> 00:07:56,381 [BIG WHOOSH] --like that into-- 205 00:07:56,381 --> 00:07:59,831 and this is how lens choices are very subjective. 206 00:07:59,831 --> 00:08:02,591 If I were to duplicate my experience right now, 207 00:08:02,591 --> 00:08:04,631 my subjective experience right now, 208 00:08:04,631 --> 00:08:07,721 my vision stretches out to where my hands are. 209 00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:08,891 Way out here. 210 00:08:08,891 --> 00:08:10,901 And way down here and way up here. 211 00:08:10,901 --> 00:08:12,641 If I were to duplicate that with a lens, 212 00:08:12,641 --> 00:08:15,881 I'd need to be on like a 10 or 12 millimeter fisheye lens. 213 00:08:15,881 --> 00:08:17,291 It would look ridiculous. 214 00:08:17,291 --> 00:08:19,431 It would look highly distorted. 215 00:08:19,431 --> 00:08:20,921 But I'm seeing all this. 216 00:08:20,921 --> 00:08:23,831 But it's not what my brain is focused on. 217 00:08:23,831 --> 00:08:26,471 And it's not what I would remember. 218 00:08:26,471 --> 00:08:30,121 So lens choice is about the memory you 219 00:08:30,121 --> 00:08:33,940 would have if you were there. 220 00:08:33,940 --> 00:08:36,450 So if I saw something really interesting, 221 00:08:36,450 --> 00:08:38,461 my focus, my attention, would go-- 222 00:08:38,461 --> 00:08:42,391 [SMALLER WHOOSH] --just to that thing, a very tiny amount 223 00:08:42,391 --> 00:08:44,361 of my visual field. 224 00:08:44,361 --> 00:08:47,101 If I walk into a new room, a place I'd never seen before, 225 00:08:47,101 --> 00:08:49,284 my attention gets much wider. 226 00:08:49,284 --> 00:08:50,701 I want to take in the whole space. 227 00:08:50,701 --> 00:08:51,811 I want to feel where I am. 228 00:08:51,811 --> 00:08:54,031 I want to feel the environment around me. 229 00:08:54,031 --> 00:08:54,691 Right? 230 00:08:54,691 --> 00:08:56,551 That's how we perceive. 231 00:08:56,551 --> 00:08:59,071 That's how we go through life perceiving. 232 00:08:59,071 --> 00:09:00,661 And you look at the whole picture, 233 00:09:00,661 --> 00:09:02,291 and then you see something interesting. 234 00:09:02,291 --> 00:09:06,061 Maybe you walk into a big room that's a party. 235 00:09:06,061 --> 00:09:07,651 And maybe across the room you see 236 00:09:07,651 --> 00:09:10,051 somebody you recognize in your attention goes-- 237 00:09:10,051 --> 00:09:14,551 [QUICK EXHALE] You just went from an 18 millimeter lens 238 00:09:14,551 --> 00:09:16,741 to a 175 millimeter lens. 239 00:09:16,741 --> 00:09:19,081 You just did it in your head. 240 00:09:19,081 --> 00:09:22,181 And it's not that we have such a mechanism, but we do. 241 00:09:22,181 --> 00:09:27,181 It's in our visual cortex, in our processing. 242 00:09:27,181 --> 00:09:31,461 And if you remember that moment six months later, 243 00:09:31,461 --> 00:09:32,871 you would remember it that way. 244 00:09:32,871 --> 00:09:35,371 I walked in, I saw the whole place, boom. 245 00:09:35,371 --> 00:09:36,411 I saw Bob. 246 00:09:36,411 --> 00:09:38,991 And I focused on him, and I crossed the room. 247 00:09:38,991 --> 00:09:43,791 Now I'm in a tracking shot going over to Bob, or whoever. 248 00:09:43,791 --> 00:09:47,751 So the point is that cinematic language maps 249 00:09:47,751 --> 00:09:50,171 to human perception. 250 00:09:50,171 --> 00:09:52,721 But if you want to really resonate with an audience, 251 00:09:52,721 --> 00:09:57,581 you resonate based on how a million years of evolution 252 00:09:57,581 --> 00:10:01,301 have programmed our brains and our visual cortexes-- 253 00:10:01,301 --> 00:10:02,501 cortexes? 254 00:10:02,501 --> 00:10:04,281 --to be the way they are. 255 00:10:04,281 --> 00:10:08,501 So we're now in Sarah's reality, looking across the room 256 00:10:08,501 --> 00:10:11,831 and zooming in-- not literally zooming in-- but switching to-- 257 00:10:11,831 --> 00:10:15,749 I think this was shot on 135 millimeter lens. 258 00:10:15,749 --> 00:10:16,791 And she's looking at him. 259 00:10:16,791 --> 00:10:20,371 And then she doesn't want him to see her, so she looks away. 260 00:10:20,371 --> 00:10:22,641 Meanwhile, Terminator has completed his scan. 261 00:10:22,641 --> 00:10:23,751 This is intercutting. 262 00:10:23,751 --> 00:10:25,431 It's all done in slow motion. 263 00:10:25,431 --> 00:10:26,671 She's moving in slow motion. 264 00:10:26,671 --> 00:10:28,521 The dancers are dancing in slow motion. 265 00:10:28,521 --> 00:10:31,041 It's taken on a dream-like aspect. 266 00:10:31,041 --> 00:10:36,521 On the Terminator's turn, the source music, 267 00:10:36,521 --> 00:10:41,911 the pounding '80s synth dance music 268 00:10:41,911 --> 00:10:44,831 starts to fade away and get very echoey. 269 00:10:44,831 --> 00:10:48,841 And the score, which is saying the-- 270 00:10:48,841 --> 00:10:55,254 which is saying the narrative, the driving force, comes up. 271 00:10:55,254 --> 00:10:57,521 [DANCE MUSIC] 272 00:10:57,521 --> 00:10:58,571 Club music's jamming. 273 00:10:58,571 --> 00:11:00,851 [DANCE MUSIC] 274 00:11:00,851 --> 00:11:04,271 A low beat starts to come in here, a threatening energy 275 00:11:04,271 --> 00:11:05,231 on his eyes. 276 00:11:05,231 --> 00:11:07,788 [DISTORTED DANCE MUSIC] 277 00:11:07,788 --> 00:11:09,371 And there's that heartbeat underneath. 278 00:11:09,371 --> 00:11:11,601 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 279 00:11:11,601 --> 00:11:16,671 And by the time the Terminator turns, the Terminator's motif, 280 00:11:16,671 --> 00:11:17,901 if you will-- 281 00:11:17,901 --> 00:11:23,631 the clanging, metallic rhythmic, relentless sound comes in. 282 00:11:23,631 --> 00:11:26,131 The source music in the club is almost gone. 283 00:11:26,131 --> 00:11:29,113 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 284 00:11:36,571 --> 00:11:39,121 So I'll pot that out so you guys can hear me. 285 00:11:39,121 --> 00:11:40,231 And he starts his move. 286 00:11:40,231 --> 00:11:41,851 He's seen the target. 287 00:11:41,851 --> 00:11:42,781 He starts his move. 288 00:11:42,781 --> 00:11:44,276 Now we see what he sees. 289 00:11:44,276 --> 00:11:46,651 Now, at the time I shot this, I thought, well, maybe I'll 290 00:11:46,651 --> 00:11:49,031 even go into what we called "Termovision," Terminator 291 00:11:49,031 --> 00:11:49,531 vision. 292 00:11:49,531 --> 00:11:50,671 I'll go fully subjective. 293 00:11:50,671 --> 00:11:53,371 I'll have him analyzing the whole scene. 294 00:11:53,371 --> 00:11:54,161 We tried it. 295 00:11:54,161 --> 00:11:55,081 I didn't like it. 296 00:11:55,081 --> 00:11:57,211 Because it broke the flow. 297 00:11:57,211 --> 00:12:00,221 But we still know we're in his vision. 298 00:12:00,221 --> 00:12:02,831 And we're pulling back in front of him. 299 00:12:02,831 --> 00:12:06,251 And we're seeing her revealed. 300 00:12:06,251 --> 00:12:07,431 It's all in slow motion. 301 00:12:07,431 --> 00:12:09,741 So we're stretching time. 302 00:12:09,741 --> 00:12:11,241 We're stretching time, because we've 303 00:12:11,241 --> 00:12:13,221 put you in a state of dread. 304 00:12:13,221 --> 00:12:14,721 We've done it with crosscutting. 305 00:12:14,721 --> 00:12:17,871 We've done it by converging the three storylines. 306 00:12:17,871 --> 00:12:19,791 We've done it with music. 307 00:12:19,791 --> 00:12:22,071 And now we want to stretch that moment. 308 00:12:22,071 --> 00:12:25,221 We want you to continue to feel that grit 309 00:12:25,221 --> 00:12:29,756 as long as we can stretch it out in a nightmarish fashion. 310 00:12:29,756 --> 00:12:31,131 In real life, something like this 311 00:12:31,131 --> 00:12:33,138 might have happened in two or three seconds. 312 00:12:33,138 --> 00:12:34,971 We want to stretch it out as long as we can. 313 00:12:34,971 --> 00:12:39,281 Because once you've gotten the audience to a place 314 00:12:39,281 --> 00:12:42,251 that they're enjoying, because perversely people actually 315 00:12:42,251 --> 00:12:44,374 enjoy being scared, they enjoy being tense, 316 00:12:44,374 --> 00:12:46,041 they enjoy having an emotional reaction. 317 00:12:46,041 --> 00:12:47,351 They also enjoy laughing. 318 00:12:47,351 --> 00:12:48,221 They enjoy crying. 319 00:12:48,221 --> 00:12:51,791 They enjoy the warmth of a great relationship moment. 320 00:12:51,791 --> 00:12:52,601 All those things. 321 00:12:52,601 --> 00:12:55,931 But they're here to enjoy all of it in all its colors, 322 00:12:55,931 --> 00:12:57,131 in all its dynamics. 323 00:12:57,131 --> 00:12:59,801 Once they're enjoying something, you'll 324 00:12:59,801 --> 00:13:02,291 let them stay there as long as you can. 325 00:13:02,291 --> 00:13:04,151 You sustain the state. 326 00:13:04,151 --> 00:13:06,881 So the slow motion is used to continue 327 00:13:06,881 --> 00:13:11,111 to build tension by sustaining and crosscutting, 328 00:13:11,111 --> 00:13:12,598 building the tension. 329 00:13:12,598 --> 00:13:14,181 Something's going to happen right now. 330 00:13:14,181 --> 00:13:15,541 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 331 00:13:15,541 --> 00:13:17,981 And her eyes see the Terminator. 332 00:13:17,981 --> 00:13:19,134 Reese sees the Terminator. 333 00:13:19,134 --> 00:13:20,551 He's the first one to take action. 334 00:13:20,551 --> 00:13:21,721 It's in slow motion. 335 00:13:21,721 --> 00:13:24,781 It's all happening in a dream state. 336 00:13:24,781 --> 00:13:25,501 It's horrifying. 337 00:13:25,501 --> 00:13:27,571 Can he get these idiots out of the way in time 338 00:13:27,571 --> 00:13:29,911 before the Terminator puts the laser dot on her? 339 00:13:29,911 --> 00:13:31,561 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 340 00:13:31,561 --> 00:13:33,211 Yes. 341 00:13:33,211 --> 00:13:34,381 Barely. 342 00:13:34,381 --> 00:13:36,571 And it's split-second. 343 00:13:36,571 --> 00:13:38,911 And I just want to compliment Mark Goldblatt 344 00:13:38,911 --> 00:13:42,411 for doing a remarkable job on the cutting of this scene 345 00:13:42,411 --> 00:13:45,541 and refining it down to one split-second shot. 346 00:13:45,541 --> 00:13:50,281 I think Kyle Reese is probably on screen in the pivotal moment 347 00:13:50,281 --> 00:13:52,841 of this scene-- 348 00:13:52,841 --> 00:13:54,151 we can find out right now-- 349 00:13:54,151 --> 00:13:56,344 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7-- 350 00:13:56,344 --> 00:13:58,311 [MOUSE CLICKING] 351 00:13:58,311 --> 00:14:00,351 10 frames. 352 00:14:00,351 --> 00:14:02,391 After all these long slow-motion shots, 353 00:14:02,391 --> 00:14:04,371 it all pivots on 10 frames. 354 00:14:04,371 --> 00:14:07,741 And now watch what happens next, here in real-time. 355 00:14:07,741 --> 00:14:08,971 She falls out the way. 356 00:14:08,971 --> 00:14:09,811 He starts shooting. 357 00:14:09,811 --> 00:14:11,321 We pop back and forth. 358 00:14:11,321 --> 00:14:14,581 These are 10 frame, 16 frame, 18 frame shots. 359 00:14:14,581 --> 00:14:16,441 It all happens like lightning. 360 00:14:16,441 --> 00:14:20,641 It even seems faster because of the fact-- 361 00:14:20,641 --> 00:14:23,851 the juxtaposition that you're coming off of slow motion 362 00:14:23,851 --> 00:14:24,721 into action. 363 00:14:24,721 --> 00:14:26,231 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 364 00:14:26,231 --> 00:14:28,696 So just to see it again. 365 00:14:28,696 --> 00:14:29,321 We're building. 366 00:14:29,321 --> 00:14:33,191 We're building in slow, nightmarish, dream-like moment 367 00:14:33,191 --> 00:14:35,501 to Reese pulls the trigger. 368 00:14:35,501 --> 00:14:36,631 Everything pivots on that. 369 00:14:36,631 --> 00:14:37,631 And then it's just boom. 370 00:14:37,631 --> 00:14:38,081 Boom. 371 00:14:38,081 --> 00:14:38,381 Boom. 372 00:14:38,381 --> 00:14:38,921 Shot. 373 00:14:38,921 --> 00:14:39,521 Shot. 374 00:14:39,521 --> 00:14:40,421 Shot. 375 00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:41,661 Shot. 376 00:14:41,661 --> 00:14:42,161 Shot. 377 00:14:42,161 --> 00:14:42,801 Shot. 378 00:14:42,801 --> 00:14:43,301 Cut. 379 00:14:43,301 --> 00:14:45,701 It's 18 frames per cut. 380 00:14:45,701 --> 00:14:48,701 And it doesn't stop again until we find out what 381 00:14:48,701 --> 00:14:50,321 happened to the Terminator. 382 00:14:50,321 --> 00:14:53,081 And he's on the ground not dead. 383 00:14:53,081 --> 00:14:54,441 Is he dead? 384 00:14:54,441 --> 00:14:57,311 And he's completely still. 385 00:14:57,311 --> 00:15:02,021 So what the shot is saying is, he's dead. 386 00:15:02,021 --> 00:15:03,131 Or is he? 387 00:15:03,131 --> 00:15:04,246 No he's not. 388 00:15:04,246 --> 00:15:06,371 I could have gone straight to him opening his eyes. 389 00:15:06,371 --> 00:15:10,331 But it was more interesting to do the hand. 390 00:15:10,331 --> 00:15:12,881 So now the whole thing just escalated to a new level. 391 00:15:12,881 --> 00:15:17,891 We cut to Sarah to show that she saw the result of him 392 00:15:17,891 --> 00:15:21,581 taking six 12-gauge rounds at close range 393 00:15:21,581 --> 00:15:23,381 and falling to the ground. 394 00:15:23,381 --> 00:15:25,751 She saw that he's getting up. 395 00:15:25,751 --> 00:15:27,761 Because it's important later that she saw it. 396 00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:30,695 [GUNFIRE, SCREAMING] 397 00:15:35,101 --> 00:15:36,981 This is a case where a low angle-- 398 00:15:36,981 --> 00:15:39,201 a low wide-angle lens, an 18 millimeter lens 399 00:15:39,201 --> 00:15:41,879 right on the floor, makes him seem huge. 400 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:43,671 Because now you want to give him the power. 401 00:15:43,671 --> 00:15:45,561 Power has shifted. 402 00:15:45,561 --> 00:15:48,451 Reese had the power for a moment, but it was ineffective. 403 00:15:48,451 --> 00:15:49,941 Now the Terminator has ascended. 404 00:15:49,941 --> 00:15:52,071 He's that which must be feared. 405 00:15:52,071 --> 00:15:55,491 He's that which is implacable that can't be stopped. 406 00:15:55,491 --> 00:15:58,891 So you want to make him big and powerful at this point. 407 00:15:58,891 --> 00:16:01,521 Here's a shot that's, you know, I 408 00:16:01,521 --> 00:16:04,261 could have done this on a different choice of lenses. 409 00:16:04,261 --> 00:16:07,161 This is actually a relatively short lens 410 00:16:07,161 --> 00:16:09,024 very close to the weapon. 411 00:16:09,024 --> 00:16:10,941 And I found this out when I was storyboarding, 412 00:16:10,941 --> 00:16:13,851 when I was photographing my friend Bill Wisher 413 00:16:13,851 --> 00:16:18,491 and having him stick shotguns out of my car in the-- 414 00:16:18,491 --> 00:16:22,381 out in the-- out at the city dump, 415 00:16:22,381 --> 00:16:27,661 that if I got a long lens, I saw a small gun 416 00:16:27,661 --> 00:16:31,151 in the actor's hand relative to the size of their face. 417 00:16:31,151 --> 00:16:36,021 If I moved in on a wider lens, I saw a big gun 418 00:16:36,021 --> 00:16:37,351 that was right in front of me. 419 00:16:37,351 --> 00:16:38,961 It was scarier. 420 00:16:38,961 --> 00:16:41,721 So the instrument of death became as important 421 00:16:41,721 --> 00:16:43,001 as the Terminator. 422 00:16:43,001 --> 00:16:44,781 And he sort of becomes one with it. 423 00:16:44,781 --> 00:16:48,711 And it's because the wide lenses seem to enhance 424 00:16:48,711 --> 00:16:50,781 the power of the shot. 425 00:16:50,781 --> 00:16:53,541 [OMINOUS MUSIC] 426 00:16:56,311 --> 00:16:58,771 Everything you do, every decision you make, every lens 427 00:16:58,771 --> 00:17:02,161 choice you make, everything that you ask an actor to do all 428 00:17:02,161 --> 00:17:05,581 adds up to a total effect of a film. 429 00:17:05,581 --> 00:17:08,521 [OMINOUS MUSIC] 1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:02,516 2 00:00:13,501 --> 00:00:17,101 The moment in aliens when Ripley's running 3 00:00:17,101 --> 00:00:19,591 through the station and everything's blowing up 4 00:00:19,591 --> 00:00:23,431 and it's on fire and she runs through a kind of wall of steam 5 00:00:23,431 --> 00:00:27,421 and she finds herself in a room, a big chamber surrounded 6 00:00:27,421 --> 00:00:32,250 by alien eggs and looking at the egg laying creature itself, 7 00:00:32,250 --> 00:00:36,391 seeing its giant egg sack, seeing the creature itself, 8 00:00:36,391 --> 00:00:39,881 and everything goes very quiet. 9 00:00:39,881 --> 00:00:44,051 And you're in this kind of a dream within the greater 10 00:00:44,051 --> 00:00:48,131 dream of the movie, this kind of very dream-like out of body 11 00:00:48,131 --> 00:00:50,983 kind of moment where everything's in slow motion, 12 00:00:50,983 --> 00:00:51,941 and it gets very quiet. 13 00:00:51,941 --> 00:00:53,983 Even though you know the explosions are going off 14 00:00:53,983 --> 00:00:55,931 and all sorts of stuff, you're suddenly 15 00:00:55,931 --> 00:00:58,211 in this subjective reality. 16 00:00:58,211 --> 00:01:01,091 That came from a dream where I went into a dark room, 17 00:01:01,091 --> 00:01:04,150 I walked to the center of the room, and I looked around. 18 00:01:04,150 --> 00:01:05,891 And as my eyes adjusted to the darkness, 19 00:01:05,891 --> 00:01:07,871 I realized that every square inch 20 00:01:07,871 --> 00:01:14,281 of the walls and the ceiling were covered by wasps, 21 00:01:14,281 --> 00:01:17,921 and I knew I couldn't make it to the door before they got to me. 22 00:01:17,921 --> 00:01:19,869 So I just froze. 23 00:01:19,869 --> 00:01:22,161 And I don't remember what happened next doesn't matter, 24 00:01:22,161 --> 00:01:25,781 but the point is that idea of suddenly realizing 25 00:01:25,781 --> 00:01:29,091 you're in an extremely threatening space 26 00:01:29,091 --> 00:01:31,691 and the only thing you can do is freeze and think your way out 27 00:01:31,691 --> 00:01:35,921 of it was the nucleus of an idea that then got turned into what 28 00:01:35,921 --> 00:01:40,151 ultimately became the first encounter with the alien queen 29 00:01:40,151 --> 00:01:42,694 in the egg chamber, which stylistically 30 00:01:42,694 --> 00:01:44,111 is an interesting scene, because I 31 00:01:44,111 --> 00:01:46,016 wanted to capture that feeling. 32 00:01:48,841 --> 00:01:51,001 Know what it is that you're feeling, 33 00:01:51,001 --> 00:01:53,139 that you want the audience to feel, and then 34 00:01:53,139 --> 00:01:54,931 start talking to people and figuring it out 35 00:01:54,931 --> 00:01:56,639 and experimenting around and figuring out 36 00:01:56,639 --> 00:02:00,559 how to convey that feeling to your audience. 37 00:02:00,559 --> 00:02:02,851 All right so we're jumping way forward in the film now. 38 00:02:02,851 --> 00:02:04,643 There at the atmosphere processing station. 39 00:02:04,643 --> 00:02:06,691 Everything's blowing up. 40 00:02:06,691 --> 00:02:07,690 So it's very loud. 41 00:02:07,690 --> 00:02:08,190 I 42 00:02:08,190 --> 00:02:09,991 Mean, we're literally spinning the needle 43 00:02:09,991 --> 00:02:11,501 in the sound design in the mix. 44 00:02:11,501 --> 00:02:12,781 We're in the red. 45 00:02:12,781 --> 00:02:15,691 Explosions are happening, and she's running. 46 00:02:15,691 --> 00:02:19,981 We're mixing very subjective handheld moving shots 47 00:02:19,981 --> 00:02:23,071 with fire, with explosions. 48 00:02:23,071 --> 00:02:26,221 Were blowing cork chunks from air mortars, 49 00:02:26,221 --> 00:02:30,001 and we're blasting her with shots 50 00:02:30,001 --> 00:02:32,311 from CO2 fire extinguishers. 51 00:02:32,311 --> 00:02:35,851 And we've got fire gel burning, and we're 52 00:02:35,851 --> 00:02:37,891 shaking the camera to suggest that it's 53 00:02:37,891 --> 00:02:43,411 a kinetic, very frenzied kind of sequence. 54 00:02:43,411 --> 00:02:44,881 We're on a fairly long lens here. 55 00:02:44,881 --> 00:02:47,416 It's hand-held, fairly long lens. 56 00:02:47,416 --> 00:02:48,541 I can't tell you right now. 57 00:02:48,541 --> 00:02:49,381 I don't remember. 58 00:02:49,381 --> 00:02:51,601 It might be a 50 or 60 mil. 59 00:02:51,601 --> 00:02:54,211 We're handholding it, and we're walking backwards with her. 60 00:02:54,211 --> 00:02:55,411 So it's very shaky. 61 00:02:55,411 --> 00:02:57,991 We feel that sense of the energy of the whole place coming 62 00:02:57,991 --> 00:02:58,771 apart. 63 00:02:58,771 --> 00:03:02,551 Sound design has been very loud and concussive 64 00:03:02,551 --> 00:03:03,841 and lots of camera shake. 65 00:03:08,351 --> 00:03:11,501 And it all fades away, and the only thing that's left 66 00:03:11,501 --> 00:03:16,601 is this kind of droning sound and the breath. 67 00:03:16,601 --> 00:03:18,791 Now the whole place is still shaking and blowing up, 68 00:03:18,791 --> 00:03:21,911 but we've just gone into an altered state of awareness. 69 00:03:21,911 --> 00:03:22,988 And the speed ramp-- 70 00:03:22,988 --> 00:03:24,321 we used to call it a speed trap. 71 00:03:24,321 --> 00:03:28,771 Now you do it as a digital post effect to change the speed. 72 00:03:28,771 --> 00:03:32,151 So we've gone from 24 to 48 frames a second. 73 00:03:32,151 --> 00:03:33,461 So we're in slow motion. 74 00:03:33,461 --> 00:03:35,741 We're in an extreme close-up on Sigourney 75 00:03:35,741 --> 00:03:40,531 that she's walked into, and she's looking 76 00:03:40,531 --> 00:03:42,061 around seeing something. 77 00:03:42,061 --> 00:03:43,351 She's seeing it before. 78 00:03:43,351 --> 00:03:44,551 We're seeing it. 79 00:03:44,551 --> 00:03:47,601 So it's the same thing in the audience's interest. 80 00:03:47,601 --> 00:03:48,601 They're leaning forward. 81 00:03:48,601 --> 00:03:50,011 What is it that she's seeing. 82 00:03:50,011 --> 00:03:51,761 What has stopped her? 83 00:03:51,761 --> 00:03:53,731 She's been running as fast as you can. 84 00:03:53,731 --> 00:03:55,814 If you're running with the little girl to get out, 85 00:03:55,814 --> 00:03:57,031 we know that seconds count. 86 00:03:57,031 --> 00:03:59,671 We know the whole place is going to blow up. 87 00:03:59,671 --> 00:04:03,441 What she's doing doesn't seem to make any sense. 88 00:04:03,441 --> 00:04:05,891 So there's a strange nightmarish quality to it. 89 00:04:05,891 --> 00:04:07,481 It's that same nightmarish quality as 90 00:04:07,481 --> 00:04:10,361 in the nightclub in terminator. 91 00:04:10,361 --> 00:04:14,261 The slow motion is telling you something, 92 00:04:14,261 --> 00:04:16,846 and it puts you into an altered state of awareness. 93 00:04:16,846 --> 00:04:18,721 And the sound design is doing the same thing. 94 00:04:18,721 --> 00:04:20,371 All the explosions have gone away. 95 00:04:20,371 --> 00:04:25,291 All the steam blasts and fire effects and deep subwoofer 96 00:04:25,291 --> 00:04:26,791 shape, it's all gone away, and it's 97 00:04:26,791 --> 00:04:28,531 gone very clear and very thin. 98 00:04:28,531 --> 00:04:30,671 And the only thing you hear is your breathing. 99 00:04:30,671 --> 00:04:33,121 So something is going on. 100 00:04:33,121 --> 00:04:36,341 What has she seen? 101 00:04:36,341 --> 00:04:39,271 Shit balls. 102 00:04:39,271 --> 00:04:41,251 100 alien eggs and she's standing right 103 00:04:41,251 --> 00:04:42,481 in the middle of them. 104 00:04:42,481 --> 00:04:44,666 So it's a nightmarish-- 105 00:04:44,666 --> 00:04:45,841 it's a nightmarish image. 106 00:04:45,841 --> 00:04:49,771 It's, kind of, her worst nightmare. 107 00:04:49,771 --> 00:04:53,161 So now so we have the wide shot, the wide reveal 108 00:04:53,161 --> 00:04:54,161 shot with all the eggs. 109 00:04:54,161 --> 00:04:57,451 And this is like all the eggs we could afford to build. 110 00:04:57,451 --> 00:04:59,906 If we could do it now digitally same scene, 111 00:04:59,906 --> 00:05:00,781 it would go on there. 112 00:05:00,781 --> 00:05:01,656 There'd be more eggs. 113 00:05:01,656 --> 00:05:03,041 We'd do a digital extension. 114 00:05:03,041 --> 00:05:05,611 We'd build 10 eggs, and we'd digitally 115 00:05:05,611 --> 00:05:07,951 extend it with another couple of hundred 116 00:05:07,951 --> 00:05:10,511 to really hammer the point. 117 00:05:10,511 --> 00:05:16,151 But it plays, and I think that's a good lesson. 118 00:05:16,151 --> 00:05:19,631 If you can't afford to do a digital extension of 100 eggs, 119 00:05:19,631 --> 00:05:23,561 make as many as you can, and it'll still work. 120 00:05:23,561 --> 00:05:26,361 The concept will still work. 121 00:05:26,361 --> 00:05:28,901 So now we just hear this very echoey kind 122 00:05:28,901 --> 00:05:32,411 of drone and her breathing as her eyes slowly track around, 123 00:05:32,411 --> 00:05:34,571 and again we're still in slow motion. 124 00:05:34,571 --> 00:05:38,201 I want you to feel the anticipatory whatever it is. 125 00:05:38,201 --> 00:05:42,681 It's a joyful experience to feel strange, anxious emotions 126 00:05:42,681 --> 00:05:43,181 in a movie. 127 00:05:43,181 --> 00:05:44,231 That's what you paid for. 128 00:05:44,231 --> 00:05:45,801 That's what you came here for. 129 00:05:45,801 --> 00:05:49,961 So if you're giving the audience what they came for, 130 00:05:49,961 --> 00:05:51,161 you extend it. 131 00:05:51,161 --> 00:05:53,061 You stay in that state. 132 00:05:53,061 --> 00:05:54,229 So she doesn't see it yet. 133 00:05:54,229 --> 00:05:55,271 She still hasn't seen it. 134 00:05:55,271 --> 00:05:56,291 Now we're really milking it. 135 00:05:56,291 --> 00:05:56,921 She's turning. 136 00:05:56,921 --> 00:05:58,311 We're still in slow motion. 137 00:05:58,311 --> 00:06:00,271 What are we hearing? 138 00:06:00,271 --> 00:06:05,701 The little pilot light of her flamethrower, 139 00:06:05,701 --> 00:06:09,031 and that strange machine like droning that tells you she's 140 00:06:09,031 --> 00:06:10,741 deep in the heart of the station, 141 00:06:10,741 --> 00:06:12,451 but it sort of reminds us that we're 142 00:06:12,451 --> 00:06:15,341 deep in the heart of this insect hive. 143 00:06:15,341 --> 00:06:18,911 She still hasn't seen it, but she knows it's behind her. 144 00:06:18,911 --> 00:06:22,151 And it's that feeling in a dream in a nightmare where 145 00:06:22,151 --> 00:06:24,431 you don't want to turn and you don't want to turn 146 00:06:24,431 --> 00:06:27,851 and you don't want to turn, but you know you're going to turn. 147 00:06:27,851 --> 00:06:29,711 And the audience plays the game, and they 148 00:06:29,711 --> 00:06:31,541 know the language of this. 149 00:06:31,541 --> 00:06:32,921 They know it's there. 150 00:06:32,921 --> 00:06:35,981 They know it's there behind her. 151 00:06:35,981 --> 00:06:37,661 So we're even milking the turn farther. 152 00:06:37,661 --> 00:06:42,041 Now I've punched in, and the moment where I see her eye 153 00:06:42,041 --> 00:06:45,551 see it is going to be the payoff, 154 00:06:45,551 --> 00:06:50,861 but we've built to it with, I think, six shots already. 155 00:06:50,861 --> 00:06:54,821 So I'm focused on her far eye. 156 00:06:54,821 --> 00:06:56,321 When you're on a lens this long, you 157 00:06:56,321 --> 00:06:59,001 have to pick which eye's in focus. 158 00:06:59,001 --> 00:07:02,391 And sometimes it's a question of some debate with the camera 159 00:07:02,391 --> 00:07:02,931 operator. 160 00:07:02,931 --> 00:07:04,881 You got to pick an eye. 161 00:07:04,881 --> 00:07:07,341 Well, we picked that eye, because we could see it better. 162 00:07:07,341 --> 00:07:09,271 This one's hidden in darkness. 163 00:07:09,271 --> 00:07:10,998 We're not interested in Newt here. 164 00:07:10,998 --> 00:07:12,081 We're following Sigourney. 165 00:07:12,081 --> 00:07:14,164 So Newt even though she's right there in the shot, 166 00:07:14,164 --> 00:07:15,321 she's out of focus. 167 00:07:15,321 --> 00:07:17,031 We're following Ripley. 168 00:07:17,031 --> 00:07:20,341 Ripley is about to meet her nightmare. 169 00:07:20,341 --> 00:07:24,029 So the shot ends when she has seen something. 170 00:07:24,029 --> 00:07:25,071 We're going to cut to it. 171 00:07:25,071 --> 00:07:28,761 Now we may expect to cut to something that we recognize, 172 00:07:28,761 --> 00:07:32,151 an alien, but that's not what we're giving you. 173 00:07:32,151 --> 00:07:34,491 What we're giving you is something mysterious. 174 00:07:34,491 --> 00:07:37,521 It's the thing that's laying the eggs, so now that's progress. 175 00:07:37,521 --> 00:07:39,561 Now we're seeing where the eggs come from. 176 00:07:39,561 --> 00:07:44,031 Her eyes go up, follow it around. 177 00:07:44,031 --> 00:07:45,466 We see the eggs inside it. 178 00:07:45,466 --> 00:07:46,341 We see it glistening. 179 00:07:46,341 --> 00:07:47,049 We see it moving. 180 00:07:47,049 --> 00:07:48,151 It's a biological thing. 181 00:07:48,151 --> 00:07:50,481 It's not like anything we've seen before. 182 00:07:50,481 --> 00:07:51,801 We're curious. 183 00:07:51,801 --> 00:07:53,681 We're afraid. 184 00:07:53,681 --> 00:07:55,541 It's still got a nightmarish quality, 185 00:07:55,541 --> 00:07:57,161 but we're getting there. 186 00:07:57,161 --> 00:07:59,741 We're coming toward the answer, and we're 187 00:07:59,741 --> 00:08:03,011 several shots into the sequence of this reveal now. 188 00:08:03,011 --> 00:08:04,991 We're about to reveal the thing itself. 189 00:08:04,991 --> 00:08:06,071 She keeps looking. 190 00:08:10,801 --> 00:08:11,771 It's mysterious. 191 00:08:11,771 --> 00:08:12,271 It's alien. 192 00:08:12,271 --> 00:08:14,161 It's enigmatic, and it's big. 193 00:08:14,161 --> 00:08:16,771 What this shot tells you, because we jump back over 194 00:08:16,771 --> 00:08:18,721 her is it's big. 195 00:08:18,721 --> 00:08:20,898 Whatever it is it's big, and it's mysterious. 196 00:08:20,898 --> 00:08:22,481 I can't even tell what I'm looking at. 197 00:08:22,481 --> 00:08:23,281 Maybe it's bones. 198 00:08:23,281 --> 00:08:24,181 Maybe it's an insect. 199 00:08:27,811 --> 00:08:30,631 Probably alive, and yes it's moving. 200 00:08:30,631 --> 00:08:34,320 So now it's going to reveal itself not only to her 201 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,521 but obviously to us. 202 00:08:41,401 --> 00:08:45,151 And the teeth extend, and yes it's definitely an alien, 203 00:08:45,151 --> 00:08:49,171 but it's not like anything we've seen before. 204 00:08:49,171 --> 00:08:51,821 And we immediately go from that reveal to the reveal 205 00:08:51,821 --> 00:08:56,101 that there's not just one, but there's a whole army of them. 206 00:08:56,101 --> 00:08:58,951 Ripley immediately knows that for Newt to survive, 207 00:08:58,951 --> 00:08:59,801 she has to survive. 208 00:08:59,801 --> 00:09:01,591 She has to get out of here somehow. 209 00:09:01,591 --> 00:09:03,809 And she's surrounded by alien warriors, 210 00:09:03,809 --> 00:09:05,101 and they're faster than she is. 211 00:09:05,101 --> 00:09:07,741 And they're far more powerful than she is. 212 00:09:07,741 --> 00:09:10,371 So she's not going to fight the warriors. 213 00:09:10,371 --> 00:09:13,041 She's going to negotiate with the alien queen, 214 00:09:13,041 --> 00:09:15,081 and that's exactly what she does. 215 00:09:15,081 --> 00:09:16,791 So she sees the threat. 216 00:09:16,791 --> 00:09:20,661 She's surrounded by the type of alien we've seen before. 217 00:09:20,661 --> 00:09:25,731 The setting down of Newt is the gunslinger pushing their cloak 218 00:09:25,731 --> 00:09:27,201 open to reveal their sixth gun. 219 00:09:27,201 --> 00:09:29,491 She's going to fight. 220 00:09:29,491 --> 00:09:30,991 Or is she? 221 00:09:30,991 --> 00:09:32,851 Now we're in the queen's perspective. 222 00:09:32,851 --> 00:09:36,541 Now we're seeing the little human in the egg chamber 223 00:09:36,541 --> 00:09:38,924 from the Queen's perspective, and she 224 00:09:38,924 --> 00:09:40,216 does something we don't expect. 225 00:09:44,341 --> 00:09:46,771 She opens fire on the eggs, and the queen's response 226 00:09:46,771 --> 00:09:47,641 is instantaneous. 227 00:09:47,641 --> 00:09:49,921 And the audience understands what it means. 228 00:09:49,921 --> 00:09:51,571 Ripley's going to burn the eggs. 229 00:09:51,571 --> 00:09:53,821 She hasn't done it yet, but she can. 230 00:09:56,306 --> 00:09:57,681 She's found the queen's weakness, 231 00:09:57,681 --> 00:10:00,591 and she points the gun at the eggs. 232 00:10:00,591 --> 00:10:04,671 There's not a line of dialogue in the whole scene, 233 00:10:04,671 --> 00:10:07,029 and you see by the gesture that the puppeteers were 234 00:10:07,029 --> 00:10:09,571 able to create-- now remember, this is all practical effects. 235 00:10:09,571 --> 00:10:10,431 This is not CG. 236 00:10:10,431 --> 00:10:11,931 You could do it with CG, and there's 237 00:10:11,931 --> 00:10:15,111 no reason not to or you can do it with practical effects 238 00:10:15,111 --> 00:10:15,951 like we did here. 239 00:10:15,951 --> 00:10:17,181 And there's a place for-- 240 00:10:17,181 --> 00:10:18,651 place for both. 241 00:10:18,651 --> 00:10:22,611 The way the alien queen lowers its head tells you 242 00:10:22,611 --> 00:10:26,601 that it's intelligent enough to understand, and she's resolute. 243 00:10:26,601 --> 00:10:29,919 The way Sigourney played it was that's right. 244 00:10:29,919 --> 00:10:30,461 That's right. 245 00:10:30,461 --> 00:10:32,231 I mean business. 246 00:10:32,231 --> 00:10:34,541 Do we have a deal? 247 00:10:34,541 --> 00:10:36,281 An the alien queen looks one way, 248 00:10:36,281 --> 00:10:40,351 and Ripley follows and that warrior backs off. 249 00:10:40,351 --> 00:10:42,951 She looks the other way and hisses. 250 00:10:42,951 --> 00:10:44,891 She tells the other warrior to back off. 251 00:10:44,891 --> 00:10:47,011 It's all in gesture. 252 00:10:47,011 --> 00:10:50,671 And Ripley says, OK, I'm going to take this equipoise, 253 00:10:50,671 --> 00:10:51,671 and I'm going to use it. 254 00:10:51,671 --> 00:10:53,421 And I'm going to get the hell out of here. 255 00:10:55,641 --> 00:10:57,711 And again, we milk it. 256 00:10:57,711 --> 00:10:58,941 We fetishize the moment. 257 00:10:58,941 --> 00:11:02,931 We make it palpable by doing an insert of the feet walking 258 00:11:02,931 --> 00:11:06,231 through the slimy roots of the egg, so that we feel it. 259 00:11:06,231 --> 00:11:07,521 We feel what she's feeling. 260 00:11:07,521 --> 00:11:09,381 We're with her. 261 00:11:09,381 --> 00:11:11,001 We hear what she hears. 262 00:11:11,001 --> 00:11:12,141 We see what she sees. 263 00:11:12,141 --> 00:11:15,501 We feel what she feels, so we're there with her. 264 00:11:15,501 --> 00:11:21,161 Our hearts are pounding, and she knows that this truth 265 00:11:21,161 --> 00:11:22,211 isn't going to last. 266 00:11:25,641 --> 00:11:28,131 And then an egg opens. 267 00:11:28,131 --> 00:11:31,371 Now does the queen control the eggs and when they hatch. 268 00:11:31,371 --> 00:11:36,561 Is to queen is about to unleash 100 face huggers? 269 00:11:36,561 --> 00:11:40,971 She doesn't trust that the truce is going to last, 270 00:11:40,971 --> 00:11:42,141 so she says fuck it. 271 00:11:48,441 --> 00:11:51,241 And then it's on. 272 00:11:51,241 --> 00:11:53,971 So from this moment, because in the queen's mind 273 00:11:53,971 --> 00:11:58,731 Ripley broke the truce it becomes a revenge story. 274 00:11:58,731 --> 00:12:00,951 It's revenge for her burning-- 275 00:12:00,951 --> 00:12:03,141 for Ripley burning her babies. 276 00:12:03,141 --> 00:12:05,691 And what's the principle at work here? 277 00:12:05,691 --> 00:12:12,351 It's not to two men going at it to see who is most macho. 278 00:12:12,351 --> 00:12:15,471 It's two women protecting their children 279 00:12:15,471 --> 00:12:18,831 with the fury of the protective mother, 280 00:12:18,831 --> 00:12:22,761 and so the conceit here was it's a different motivation. 281 00:12:22,761 --> 00:12:26,481 It's a different motivation for a heroic action character 282 00:12:26,481 --> 00:12:28,491 and in this case Sigourney's character. 283 00:12:28,491 --> 00:12:32,331 It's a different motivation for a monster 284 00:12:32,331 --> 00:12:36,041 than you've seen before, because I don't believe in villains. 285 00:12:36,041 --> 00:12:38,651 I believe everybody's got a reason for doing what they do. 286 00:12:38,651 --> 00:12:41,451 So what was the alien queen's reason for relentlessly 287 00:12:41,451 --> 00:12:42,861 hunting her down? 288 00:12:42,861 --> 00:12:45,761 This was-- this became a personal story at this point, 289 00:12:45,761 --> 00:12:49,731 and I think a lot of the power of it came from that. 290 00:12:49,731 --> 00:12:52,721 So you have to understand it's not 291 00:12:52,721 --> 00:12:55,931 like I knew going in exactly every beat of how 292 00:12:55,931 --> 00:12:56,621 this came out. 293 00:12:56,621 --> 00:12:57,891 It was an exploration. 294 00:12:57,891 --> 00:12:59,441 I did a lot of coverage on this. 295 00:12:59,441 --> 00:13:00,786 I tried some things. 296 00:13:00,786 --> 00:13:03,161 I didn't know it was going to work, trying to speed ramp, 297 00:13:03,161 --> 00:13:04,411 trying this slow motion thing. 298 00:13:04,411 --> 00:13:06,171 I wanted to do something. 299 00:13:06,171 --> 00:13:08,471 I had a goal, which was to create 300 00:13:08,471 --> 00:13:12,291 that subjective kind of out of body dreamlike nightmarish 301 00:13:12,291 --> 00:13:12,791 experience. 302 00:13:12,791 --> 00:13:14,499 I didn't exactly know how to go about it. 303 00:13:14,499 --> 00:13:16,541 I experimented, talked to the DP. 304 00:13:16,541 --> 00:13:19,541 We figured some stuff out, and it evolved. 305 00:13:19,541 --> 00:13:21,701 And where it really kicked up to the next level 306 00:13:21,701 --> 00:13:24,341 was in the sound design in the mix, 307 00:13:24,341 --> 00:13:25,808 and I remember right now it was one 308 00:13:25,808 --> 00:13:27,641 of the most satisfying experiences I've ever 309 00:13:27,641 --> 00:13:30,353 had on a mixing stage was mixing this scene. 310 00:13:30,353 --> 00:13:32,561 And when we finished it, we all looked at each other, 311 00:13:32,561 --> 00:13:34,481 and we knew it we'd done something, 312 00:13:34,481 --> 00:13:38,891 because we had fulfilled the promise of that nightmare. 313 00:13:38,891 --> 00:13:41,641 [CREEPY MUSIC] 1 00:00:20,671 --> 00:00:23,821 NARRATOR: So here's a scene from "Aliens." 2 00:00:23,821 --> 00:00:28,081 And they've gone into the colony base that's 3 00:00:28,081 --> 00:00:30,841 on the planet where we know from the first film 4 00:00:30,841 --> 00:00:32,921 that the aliens have existed. 5 00:00:32,921 --> 00:00:34,951 And they've already seen face huggers in jars. 6 00:00:34,951 --> 00:00:39,206 So Ripley is already very nervous. 7 00:00:39,206 --> 00:00:41,581 And they've gone in, the whole base seems to be deserted. 8 00:00:41,581 --> 00:00:45,801 There's evidence of violence, evidence of weapons being used, 9 00:00:45,801 --> 00:00:46,801 but there are no people. 10 00:00:46,801 --> 00:00:50,251 We've been in a kind of anxious, suspenseful state. 11 00:00:50,251 --> 00:00:52,921 We've come in, we've been very subjective, 12 00:00:52,921 --> 00:00:54,751 we've searched the place. 13 00:00:54,751 --> 00:00:56,431 We keep expecting something to jump out, 14 00:00:56,431 --> 00:00:59,001 keep expecting something to jump out but it doesn't. 15 00:00:59,001 --> 00:01:02,331 And now we're going to win things a little tighter. 16 00:01:02,331 --> 00:01:05,120 And this is a long game. 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,241 We've been building and building and building for a long time 18 00:01:08,241 --> 00:01:09,241 here. 19 00:01:09,241 --> 00:01:12,171 So how do we signal to the audience 20 00:01:12,171 --> 00:01:14,601 that there is an escalation or there's a swerve, 21 00:01:14,601 --> 00:01:18,611 something new is happening? 22 00:01:18,611 --> 00:01:20,681 Our character gets a signal. 23 00:01:20,681 --> 00:01:22,301 They've got these trackers. 24 00:01:22,301 --> 00:01:25,561 They've been walking around the base with these trackers. 25 00:01:25,561 --> 00:01:26,911 Nothing's shown up. 26 00:01:26,911 --> 00:01:28,831 All of a sudden there's movement. 27 00:01:32,231 --> 00:01:33,231 We got something here. 28 00:01:33,231 --> 00:01:37,101 He says we got something, something moving. 29 00:01:37,101 --> 00:01:39,201 Where is it? 30 00:01:39,201 --> 00:01:40,161 Behind us. 31 00:01:40,161 --> 00:01:42,286 One of us? 32 00:01:42,286 --> 00:01:43,161 MAN: Hey [INAUDIBLE]. 33 00:01:43,161 --> 00:01:44,301 Where are your people? 34 00:01:44,301 --> 00:01:46,701 You're 20 minutes into a long game 35 00:01:46,701 --> 00:01:49,671 kind of suspenseful sequence at this point. 36 00:01:49,671 --> 00:01:51,718 And now it's going to come to a head. 37 00:01:51,718 --> 00:01:53,301 MAN (ON RADIO): Uh, that's a negative. 38 00:01:53,301 --> 00:01:54,808 We're rolling operations. 39 00:01:58,551 --> 00:02:00,561 It's all up to me, Frosty. 40 00:02:00,561 --> 00:02:02,093 Just keep moving, baby. 41 00:02:02,093 --> 00:02:04,551 NARRATOR: He moves forward with his gun, which is basically 42 00:02:04,551 --> 00:02:06,171 just a steadicam on. 43 00:02:06,171 --> 00:02:09,530 But I made the assumption at the time, 44 00:02:09,530 --> 00:02:13,011 and this was in 1985, that the steadicam was a tool that we 45 00:02:13,011 --> 00:02:14,011 used behind the scenes. 46 00:02:14,011 --> 00:02:15,589 But it wasn't well known. 47 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:17,131 So we just basically took a steadicam 48 00:02:17,131 --> 00:02:20,611 and dressed it up with a big machine gun sitting on it. 49 00:02:20,611 --> 00:02:24,301 And it was Hell to operate because it was really heavy. 50 00:02:24,301 --> 00:02:28,591 But the two actors that had carry it did a great job. 51 00:02:28,591 --> 00:02:30,781 Okay, so we're in a tracking shot. 52 00:02:30,781 --> 00:02:34,591 The lighting is very low key. 53 00:02:34,591 --> 00:02:37,071 We've got some sense of source lighting here. 54 00:02:37,071 --> 00:02:39,751 And we've got source lighting coming from their lights. 55 00:02:39,751 --> 00:02:44,011 So it feels very, very dim and dark and suspenseful. 56 00:02:44,011 --> 00:02:48,211 These are just basic ways of selling 57 00:02:48,211 --> 00:02:52,141 that you're in sort of a haunted house, the spooky environment, 58 00:02:52,141 --> 00:02:55,051 as opposed to the brightly lit kind of sterile lab 59 00:02:55,051 --> 00:02:56,281 that it could have been. 60 00:02:56,281 --> 00:02:57,751 I mean, it's a lab. 61 00:02:57,751 --> 00:03:00,721 It's a medical space, could have been brightly lit. 62 00:03:00,721 --> 00:03:01,471 But it isn't. 63 00:03:01,471 --> 00:03:03,451 So the power is failing. 64 00:03:03,451 --> 00:03:07,951 There is the suggestion that violence has happened and could 65 00:03:07,951 --> 00:03:10,351 happen again in a split second. 66 00:03:10,351 --> 00:03:13,081 Now we don't know how jumpy Ripley is, 67 00:03:13,081 --> 00:03:17,286 so I did a little thing here where he brushes the microscope 68 00:03:17,286 --> 00:03:18,661 arm, or whatever it is, and there 69 00:03:18,661 --> 00:03:21,541 was this carefully balanced flask sitting here. 70 00:03:24,301 --> 00:03:25,651 And Sigourney jumps. 71 00:03:25,651 --> 00:03:30,001 And it puts you subjectively in her character for a moment. 72 00:03:30,001 --> 00:03:31,711 It's not meant to make the audience jump, 73 00:03:31,711 --> 00:03:34,686 because they see it in progress. 74 00:03:34,686 --> 00:03:36,061 It's different than a jump scare. 75 00:03:36,061 --> 00:03:37,561 In a jump scare the audience doesn't know 76 00:03:37,561 --> 00:03:38,851 what's going to happen next. 77 00:03:38,851 --> 00:03:40,391 And something moves very quickly. 78 00:03:40,391 --> 00:03:42,361 And there might be a music sting. 79 00:03:42,361 --> 00:03:44,461 And we jump. 80 00:03:44,461 --> 00:03:47,371 This case is not us jumping, this is her jumping. 81 00:03:47,371 --> 00:03:51,391 And it's to externalize her mental state, which 82 00:03:51,391 --> 00:03:53,221 is hair trigger. 83 00:03:53,221 --> 00:03:55,501 She's trying to process rationally, 84 00:03:55,501 --> 00:03:57,571 she's trying to be the rational person that she 85 00:03:57,571 --> 00:04:01,351 imagines herself to be, but her heart's pounding. 86 00:04:01,351 --> 00:04:05,731 Because she's the only one there that's encountered this species 87 00:04:05,731 --> 00:04:06,601 before. 88 00:04:06,601 --> 00:04:08,991 So she's more keyed up than everybody else is. 89 00:04:08,991 --> 00:04:12,241 They should be more scared than they are. 90 00:04:12,241 --> 00:04:15,731 They're just treating it as professional soldiers, 91 00:04:15,731 --> 00:04:18,341 military guys doing what they do. 92 00:04:18,341 --> 00:04:19,751 So he's looking at the screen. 93 00:04:19,751 --> 00:04:22,421 He says it's straight in front of us so we're going to move, 94 00:04:22,421 --> 00:04:23,411 we're going to go in that direction. 95 00:04:23,411 --> 00:04:25,901 Because of course that's what you do in a horror movie. 96 00:04:25,901 --> 00:04:30,371 You're going to go toward the danger because of their hubris. 97 00:04:30,371 --> 00:04:33,011 So thematically, that was a theme throughout the film. 98 00:04:33,011 --> 00:04:35,171 These guys thought they were undefeatable. 99 00:04:35,171 --> 00:04:36,611 They had the big guns. 100 00:04:36,611 --> 00:04:38,891 They were against a non intelligent species that 101 00:04:38,891 --> 00:04:41,321 had no weaponry whatsoever. 102 00:04:41,321 --> 00:04:43,181 What's to worry about? 103 00:04:43,181 --> 00:04:45,761 And it was always in my mind writing 104 00:04:45,761 --> 00:04:47,831 this, kind of a metaphor for the Vietnam War, 105 00:04:47,831 --> 00:04:50,441 where the big stomping superpower was going 106 00:04:50,441 --> 00:04:53,171 to go into the little backward developing country 107 00:04:53,171 --> 00:04:57,011 where all they had was a bunch of hand-me-down AK 47s 108 00:04:57,011 --> 00:04:59,261 and they were running through the jungle in bare feet. 109 00:04:59,261 --> 00:05:01,271 And we were going to go in with our helicopters 110 00:05:01,271 --> 00:05:05,321 and our missiles and our defoliants and our B52s. 111 00:05:05,321 --> 00:05:07,661 And we were going to bomb them into the Stone Age 112 00:05:07,661 --> 00:05:09,701 and we were going to win in six months. 113 00:05:09,701 --> 00:05:13,331 Cut to 10 years later, and the US is pulling out of Vietnam 114 00:05:13,331 --> 00:05:15,101 with its tail between its legs. 115 00:05:15,101 --> 00:05:18,821 And that was 10 years before this movie was made. 116 00:05:18,821 --> 00:05:21,501 The fall of Saigon was in 1975. 117 00:05:21,501 --> 00:05:23,269 So it was recent history, it was something 118 00:05:23,269 --> 00:05:24,561 that I was paying attention to. 119 00:05:24,561 --> 00:05:27,461 And it was resonating into a science fiction film that 120 00:05:27,461 --> 00:05:29,351 took place on another planet. 121 00:05:29,351 --> 00:05:32,111 We never specifically say that these guys are Americans. 122 00:05:32,111 --> 00:05:35,021 In fact, you can imagine that they are. 123 00:05:35,021 --> 00:05:35,521 Or do we? 124 00:05:35,521 --> 00:05:36,104 Wait a minute. 125 00:05:36,104 --> 00:05:37,691 Does he have an- oh, sorry. 126 00:05:37,691 --> 00:05:38,621 I take it back. 127 00:05:38,621 --> 00:05:42,251 There are a few extra stars in the number 128 00:05:42,251 --> 00:05:43,901 of states because presumably, America 129 00:05:43,901 --> 00:05:47,321 is a colonial superpower in this imagined future. 130 00:05:47,321 --> 00:05:49,001 But we never say it in dialogue, they're 131 00:05:49,001 --> 00:05:51,191 just the colonial Marines. 132 00:05:51,191 --> 00:05:55,211 And at the time, I didn't really know any Marines personally. 133 00:05:55,211 --> 00:05:57,011 I didn't know their ethos. 134 00:05:57,011 --> 00:06:01,991 Later on in my life, my younger brother would join the Marines, 135 00:06:01,991 --> 00:06:03,401 serve for six years. 136 00:06:03,401 --> 00:06:07,511 And I learned a whole new appreciation and respect 137 00:06:07,511 --> 00:06:09,101 for the US Marine Corps. 138 00:06:09,101 --> 00:06:12,461 And I actually wouldn't make this movie this way 139 00:06:12,461 --> 00:06:14,981 now, because of what I know about the US Marines. 140 00:06:14,981 --> 00:06:16,901 But every filmmaker evolved. 141 00:06:16,901 --> 00:06:19,091 They learn, they observe life, and sometimes 142 00:06:19,091 --> 00:06:20,741 their opinions on things change. 143 00:06:20,741 --> 00:06:23,291 So this is all classic suspense. 144 00:06:23,291 --> 00:06:27,191 So we have the moment where you're at the door, the corner. 145 00:06:27,191 --> 00:06:29,351 The pieing of the room, as they say 146 00:06:29,351 --> 00:06:31,991 in a police show or something like that, 147 00:06:31,991 --> 00:06:34,421 where you sweep the space. 148 00:06:34,421 --> 00:06:37,181 Now we've just gone into a subjective shot. 149 00:06:37,181 --> 00:06:39,791 We don't quite know why we're in a subjective shot. 150 00:06:39,791 --> 00:06:42,651 But the camera's moving. 151 00:06:42,651 --> 00:06:44,801 Why is the camera moving? 152 00:06:44,801 --> 00:06:46,691 Is it something hiding? 153 00:06:46,691 --> 00:06:49,881 This foreground object is meant to suggest that there's a place 154 00:06:49,881 --> 00:06:52,971 to conceal, and we're looking out from behind concealment. 155 00:06:52,971 --> 00:06:55,011 It's totally subconscious. 156 00:06:55,011 --> 00:06:57,651 It's not meant to be a conscious statement. 157 00:06:57,651 --> 00:06:59,541 It's a subconscious statement. 158 00:06:59,541 --> 00:07:02,131 The camera just came to life. 159 00:07:02,131 --> 00:07:04,911 So these guys are moving forward. 160 00:07:04,911 --> 00:07:08,271 The sound design, the chirp of the tracker, 161 00:07:08,271 --> 00:07:09,291 it's getting louder. 162 00:07:09,291 --> 00:07:11,231 And it's getting faster. 163 00:07:11,231 --> 00:07:16,061 It's an increasing tension through sound design. 164 00:07:16,061 --> 00:07:17,381 We want to milk out that state. 165 00:07:17,381 --> 00:07:20,311 We want the audience to be on the edge of their seats. 166 00:07:20,311 --> 00:07:22,451 So here in the graphic, is it moving toward us 167 00:07:22,451 --> 00:07:23,741 or are we moving toward it? 168 00:07:23,741 --> 00:07:26,321 But again, the underpinning to this scene 169 00:07:26,321 --> 00:07:32,291 is the presumption going in that this is an alien. 170 00:07:32,291 --> 00:07:35,081 And that presumption is fed at least, 171 00:07:35,081 --> 00:07:40,541 I would say, 50% by our knowledge of the prior film. 172 00:07:40,541 --> 00:07:42,521 So this is a sequel intentionally 173 00:07:42,521 --> 00:07:46,631 resonating with the film that came before it. 174 00:07:46,631 --> 00:07:49,121 Intentionally and I think successfully. 175 00:07:49,121 --> 00:07:54,081 Not overly so, but definitely that's a factor. 176 00:07:54,081 --> 00:07:55,751 So now we've just gone subjective again. 177 00:07:55,751 --> 00:08:00,651 We're handheld from behind the Marine, Hicks, moving up. 178 00:08:00,651 --> 00:08:01,751 So we're with them. 179 00:08:01,751 --> 00:08:03,011 We're moving with them. 180 00:08:03,011 --> 00:08:06,471 We're on their journey just for that moment, 181 00:08:06,471 --> 00:08:09,344 which is the point of the shot. 182 00:08:09,344 --> 00:08:11,761 To be there and to see that there's nothing ahead of them. 183 00:08:11,761 --> 00:08:14,131 They can't see anything ahead of them. 184 00:08:14,131 --> 00:08:16,531 But here is this foreground thing, the shadowy foreground 185 00:08:16,531 --> 00:08:17,031 thing. 186 00:08:17,031 --> 00:08:18,661 And they're not looking at it. 187 00:08:18,661 --> 00:08:21,096 The camera's moving ever so slightly. 188 00:08:21,096 --> 00:08:23,221 And then something shadowy breaks across the frame. 189 00:08:23,221 --> 00:08:25,231 Sudden lunge and a sudden music sting. 190 00:08:25,231 --> 00:08:26,071 Classic. 191 00:08:26,071 --> 00:08:28,111 Classic music sting. 192 00:08:28,111 --> 00:08:31,801 And Drake, this was a tough one from an editorial standpoint. 193 00:08:31,801 --> 00:08:35,971 Drake, our smart gun operator, opens fire. 194 00:08:35,971 --> 00:08:39,810 But Hicks, with lightning quick reflexes, deflects his weapon. 195 00:08:39,810 --> 00:08:42,601 A little hard to see, and if I'd had a little more money 196 00:08:42,601 --> 00:08:46,231 or maybe I'd seen the dailies, if I was looking at a monitor, 197 00:08:46,231 --> 00:08:47,641 I'd say, I don't see his gun. 198 00:08:47,641 --> 00:08:50,491 I don't see Hicks hit Drake. 199 00:08:50,491 --> 00:08:53,671 I probably would have gone again. 200 00:08:53,671 --> 00:08:55,213 But this was in the day of film. 201 00:08:55,213 --> 00:08:56,671 So you waited the next day and then 202 00:08:56,671 --> 00:08:58,301 there was no time to go back. 203 00:08:58,301 --> 00:09:00,001 But the audience still gets it. 204 00:09:00,001 --> 00:09:05,501 Because two shots later, you see Hicks 205 00:09:05,501 --> 00:09:07,206 having blocked Drake's gun. 206 00:09:07,206 --> 00:09:09,581 You're seeing the questions being answered after the fact 207 00:09:09,581 --> 00:09:11,931 but that's okay. 208 00:09:11,931 --> 00:09:12,501 That's okay. 209 00:09:12,501 --> 00:09:15,938 So there's an interim shot of the rounds hitting the wall. 210 00:09:15,938 --> 00:09:18,021 And we see the destructive power of the smart gun. 211 00:09:18,021 --> 00:09:22,401 And then we see that Hicks has deflected his weapon. 212 00:09:22,401 --> 00:09:23,793 And Drake's pissed off about it. 213 00:09:23,793 --> 00:09:25,251 Because he would have made the shot 214 00:09:25,251 --> 00:09:27,461 if Hick's hadn't done that. 215 00:09:27,461 --> 00:09:30,671 But Hicks has clearly seen something 216 00:09:30,671 --> 00:09:32,741 to stop him from shooting. 217 00:09:32,741 --> 00:09:34,491 And then he does something strange. 218 00:09:34,491 --> 00:09:35,306 Ripley. 219 00:09:35,306 --> 00:09:37,301 NARRATOR: He calls to Ripley. 220 00:09:37,301 --> 00:09:38,831 So now you know it's not an alien. 221 00:09:38,831 --> 00:09:39,641 But what is it? 222 00:09:39,641 --> 00:09:42,851 So now you've just toggled out of suspense mode. 223 00:09:42,851 --> 00:09:45,731 The suspense has been alleviated. 224 00:09:45,731 --> 00:09:47,591 It's now dropped to zero. 225 00:09:47,591 --> 00:09:49,391 Now you're into curiosity. 226 00:09:49,391 --> 00:09:52,631 It's been replaced by curiosity different emotion. 227 00:09:52,631 --> 00:09:54,626 Different physiological response. 228 00:09:54,626 --> 00:09:55,751 Now you're leaning forward. 229 00:09:55,751 --> 00:09:57,043 What is it that Hicks has seen? 230 00:09:57,043 --> 00:09:58,271 We're not telling you. 231 00:09:58,271 --> 00:10:01,971 We saw something, but we don't know what it is. 232 00:10:01,971 --> 00:10:04,221 And we're not going to answer the question right away. 233 00:10:04,221 --> 00:10:05,901 Now she's seeing something. 234 00:10:05,901 --> 00:10:07,341 And we can tell by her expression 235 00:10:07,341 --> 00:10:08,341 that it's interesting. 236 00:10:08,341 --> 00:10:11,841 But we don't know what it is. 237 00:10:11,841 --> 00:10:12,581 Holy shit. 238 00:10:12,581 --> 00:10:16,241 Now to me this is the right order of information. 239 00:10:16,241 --> 00:10:18,401 You see the character see something. 240 00:10:18,401 --> 00:10:20,801 And it's clearly there in her face. 241 00:10:20,801 --> 00:10:22,361 Unmistakable. 242 00:10:22,361 --> 00:10:25,841 I'm looking, I'm looking, and I see something. 243 00:10:25,841 --> 00:10:29,506 Sigourney was not looking at Carrie Henn, who played Newt. 244 00:10:29,506 --> 00:10:31,381 She was probably looking at a dot on the wall 245 00:10:31,381 --> 00:10:33,541 and creating that in her mind. 246 00:10:33,541 --> 00:10:37,349 If she had felt that she needed Carrie to be there, 247 00:10:37,349 --> 00:10:38,641 we might have had Carrie there. 248 00:10:38,641 --> 00:10:39,361 I don't remember. 249 00:10:39,361 --> 00:10:42,521 But it depends on the individual actor. 250 00:10:42,521 --> 00:10:46,411 But she might have been reacting to nothing. 251 00:10:46,411 --> 00:10:47,621 And this is what she sees. 252 00:10:47,621 --> 00:10:48,871 And so now we have the reveal. 253 00:10:48,871 --> 00:10:50,831 We've just introduced a character. 254 00:10:50,831 --> 00:10:54,751 Now as the film was written, we've already met her. 255 00:10:54,751 --> 00:10:58,561 And there was a whole sort of eight minute sequence with her 256 00:10:58,561 --> 00:11:04,651 when she was not the unkempt little savage animal. 257 00:11:04,651 --> 00:11:07,261 My intention there was to draw a contrast 258 00:11:07,261 --> 00:11:09,871 to see her before and after. 259 00:11:09,871 --> 00:11:13,271 As the film was finally cut and released, 260 00:11:13,271 --> 00:11:16,531 we took out all of reel two and basically threw it 261 00:11:16,531 --> 00:11:17,991 in the trash. 262 00:11:17,991 --> 00:11:19,391 And so we didn't see Newt. 263 00:11:19,391 --> 00:11:21,491 This is now her introduction shot. 264 00:11:21,491 --> 00:11:23,201 So this was an unplanned introduction 265 00:11:23,201 --> 00:11:26,361 that works very well. 266 00:11:26,361 --> 00:11:29,331 But I think it's critical to understand that every shot is 267 00:11:29,331 --> 00:11:31,071 always doing something. 268 00:11:31,071 --> 00:11:33,081 The audience is learning. 269 00:11:33,081 --> 00:11:36,291 And once the audience jumps hip to the fact 270 00:11:36,291 --> 00:11:38,181 that the film is teaching you things 271 00:11:38,181 --> 00:11:40,791 you need to know further on in the film, 272 00:11:40,791 --> 00:11:42,621 you'll continue to pay attention. 273 00:11:42,621 --> 00:11:45,131 You start to play the game. 1 00:00:03,437 --> 00:00:06,853 2 00:00:16,150 --> 00:00:18,821 The art of low-budget filmmaking is the art of being 3 00:00:18,821 --> 00:00:22,781 thoroughly prepared and maximizing what you have. 4 00:00:22,781 --> 00:00:29,201 And your preparation is at every level of design storyboarding, 5 00:00:29,201 --> 00:00:32,471 technical scouting, selecting your locations, 6 00:00:32,471 --> 00:00:37,211 trying to get the most bang for the buck out of a location, 7 00:00:37,211 --> 00:00:38,921 versus having to build a set. 8 00:00:38,921 --> 00:00:41,321 You'll sacrifice some control. 9 00:00:41,321 --> 00:00:43,631 You'll sacrifice some design elements 10 00:00:43,631 --> 00:00:46,511 that you might have if you'd had the budget to build 11 00:00:46,511 --> 00:00:48,551 a million dollar set. 12 00:00:48,551 --> 00:00:50,861 But it's okay. 13 00:00:50,861 --> 00:00:54,221 The essence of the story will come through regardless. 14 00:00:54,221 --> 00:00:58,211 And you're going to select a crew for their ability 15 00:00:58,211 --> 00:01:00,521 to move fast and take no prisoners, 16 00:01:00,521 --> 00:01:03,761 but still generate images of high quality 17 00:01:03,761 --> 00:01:06,521 that are punching above their weight, 18 00:01:06,521 --> 00:01:09,941 so that the film that you end up with looks great, 19 00:01:09,941 --> 00:01:13,271 and you don't see and feel the compromises 20 00:01:13,271 --> 00:01:14,468 that you know you've made. 21 00:01:14,468 --> 00:01:16,301 You're not going to have a movie star, which 22 00:01:16,301 --> 00:01:20,021 can be a blessing in the sense that it forces you 23 00:01:20,021 --> 00:01:23,831 as a filmmaker to earn the audience's 24 00:01:23,831 --> 00:01:25,941 interest in that character. 25 00:01:25,941 --> 00:01:28,121 So I think it builds craft. 26 00:01:28,121 --> 00:01:32,501 And maybe you have to make two or three films at a more modest 27 00:01:32,501 --> 00:01:33,971 budget to prove-- 28 00:01:33,971 --> 00:01:36,341 to prove yourself, and to learn the craft, 29 00:01:36,341 --> 00:01:40,751 and to prove that the craft that you have learned to, 30 00:01:40,751 --> 00:01:42,761 you know, the powers that be, that sign-- 31 00:01:42,761 --> 00:01:43,781 that sign the checks. 32 00:01:48,551 --> 00:01:53,758 Pick a subject that can be done within the budget constraints 33 00:01:53,758 --> 00:01:54,341 that you have. 34 00:01:54,341 --> 00:01:57,461 And let me give you an example from my own experience. 35 00:01:57,461 --> 00:02:00,941 When I was breaking in, I made "The Terminator." 36 00:02:00,941 --> 00:02:03,971 That was my first directing credit. 37 00:02:03,971 --> 00:02:07,181 And I knew when I was writing it that I 38 00:02:07,181 --> 00:02:09,124 had to write it for a budget. 39 00:02:09,124 --> 00:02:11,291 So I knew I was going to be on location, so I wasn't 40 00:02:11,291 --> 00:02:13,141 going to be able to build sets. 41 00:02:13,141 --> 00:02:16,481 Now, the difference between building a set of a castle 42 00:02:16,481 --> 00:02:22,181 and going to a castle or a large building or large mansion 43 00:02:22,181 --> 00:02:26,141 and using the location is a difference in control. 44 00:02:26,141 --> 00:02:27,521 You can knock out a wall. 45 00:02:27,521 --> 00:02:29,171 You can go back on a longer lens. 46 00:02:29,171 --> 00:02:32,741 You can stylistically do things in a set that you cannot do 47 00:02:32,741 --> 00:02:34,001 on a location. 48 00:02:34,001 --> 00:02:35,261 Does the audience care? 49 00:02:35,261 --> 00:02:38,081 Probably not that much. 50 00:02:38,081 --> 00:02:40,181 You might not win an Academy Award 51 00:02:40,181 --> 00:02:43,361 for cinematography or design because of the limitations, 52 00:02:43,361 --> 00:02:45,791 but you'll still make a damn good film. 53 00:02:45,791 --> 00:02:48,551 So it's a question of, when are you 54 00:02:48,551 --> 00:02:53,331 getting diminishing returns for where you're spending money? 55 00:02:53,331 --> 00:02:55,761 And so with "The Terminator," the idea 56 00:02:55,761 --> 00:03:01,011 there was to be very everyday, very commonplace, not exotic, 57 00:03:01,011 --> 00:03:04,101 for a specific reason, then drop the exotic element into it. 58 00:03:04,101 --> 00:03:06,749 And that was really a motif throughout "The Terminator" 59 00:03:06,749 --> 00:03:07,791 films, for the most part. 60 00:03:07,791 --> 00:03:09,691 Certainly, the first film was about, 61 00:03:09,691 --> 00:03:11,031 this is everyday Los Angeles. 62 00:03:11,031 --> 00:03:12,391 This is a restaurant. 63 00:03:12,391 --> 00:03:13,611 This is a nightclub. 64 00:03:13,611 --> 00:03:15,021 This is a city street. 65 00:03:15,021 --> 00:03:18,921 And the extraordinary elements came into it 66 00:03:18,921 --> 00:03:22,221 from the future, Kyle Reese, and the terminator. 67 00:03:22,221 --> 00:03:24,201 And even then, they were forced to deal 68 00:03:24,201 --> 00:03:27,511 with contemporary elements in terms of weaponry, and so on. 69 00:03:27,511 --> 00:03:30,741 And that was done by design for a very simple reason. 70 00:03:30,741 --> 00:03:32,811 We couldn't afford anything else. 71 00:03:32,811 --> 00:03:35,361 That script was carefully written 72 00:03:35,361 --> 00:03:37,311 to be something that was affordable. 73 00:03:37,311 --> 00:03:41,746 Because I knew I was coming in as an entry level filmmaker. 74 00:03:41,746 --> 00:03:43,371 I knew that I was going to have to pick 75 00:03:43,371 --> 00:03:45,831 my battles with the visual effects in a very 76 00:03:45,831 --> 00:03:49,491 controlled way, so that it was manageable within the budget. 77 00:03:49,491 --> 00:03:52,551 So we'd do a few prosthetic effects. 78 00:03:52,551 --> 00:03:56,091 We saved up all our big guns for the end, where the endoskeleton 79 00:03:56,091 --> 00:03:58,431 is revealed by the fire. 80 00:03:58,431 --> 00:04:01,031 We had a few prosthetic gags along the way, 81 00:04:01,031 --> 00:04:03,531 and we had a couple of future sequences that could be bigger 82 00:04:03,531 --> 00:04:06,621 or could be smaller, that the film didn't hinge on, 83 00:04:06,621 --> 00:04:09,231 where I could do some of the effects work 84 00:04:09,231 --> 00:04:11,121 that I had learned how to do. 85 00:04:11,121 --> 00:04:14,271 Because I asked myself, what do I bring to this specific story 86 00:04:14,271 --> 00:04:16,311 other than that I created it? 87 00:04:16,311 --> 00:04:18,276 Well, I know tactical filmmaking. 88 00:04:18,276 --> 00:04:20,031 I know visual effects. 89 00:04:20,031 --> 00:04:22,671 I've done a bit of action second-unit direction. 90 00:04:22,671 --> 00:04:25,701 With an early project, you want to come in with something that 91 00:04:25,701 --> 00:04:29,061 speaks to the strengths that you've already developed, 92 00:04:29,061 --> 00:04:31,461 or it better be the best damn screenplay in history. 93 00:04:39,071 --> 00:04:40,841 It's really more important, I would say, 94 00:04:40,841 --> 00:04:44,341 than the technical understanding of the art of photography 95 00:04:44,341 --> 00:04:47,941 and lighting, is to have that communication with the director 96 00:04:47,941 --> 00:04:48,721 of photography. 97 00:04:48,721 --> 00:04:51,661 If you're working with someone you've never 98 00:04:51,661 --> 00:04:54,271 worked with before, spend a lot of time 99 00:04:54,271 --> 00:04:58,171 with that person looking at films and saying what you like 100 00:04:58,171 --> 00:05:00,991 and what you see and what's important. 101 00:05:00,991 --> 00:05:04,121 And ask the director of photography, how do I do that? 102 00:05:04,121 --> 00:05:05,731 How will we do that? 103 00:05:05,731 --> 00:05:07,481 How will we get that-- 104 00:05:07,481 --> 00:05:10,091 that sort of highly directional soft cross light 105 00:05:10,091 --> 00:05:11,571 coming in through the window? 106 00:05:11,571 --> 00:05:12,431 How can we get that? 107 00:05:12,431 --> 00:05:16,661 How can we get that richness of tone based on your experience? 108 00:05:16,661 --> 00:05:18,131 How have you done that in the past? 109 00:05:18,131 --> 00:05:21,281 And what will that involve for me technically 110 00:05:21,281 --> 00:05:22,811 during the shooting day? 111 00:05:22,811 --> 00:05:24,536 And if I want to change my angle-- 112 00:05:24,536 --> 00:05:26,411 let's say I'm going to go outside the window, 113 00:05:26,411 --> 00:05:27,869 and the person comes to the window, 114 00:05:27,869 --> 00:05:30,103 how does that not suddenly look very flat? 115 00:05:30,103 --> 00:05:32,561 Because I'm literally-- I've got the lights right behind me 116 00:05:32,561 --> 00:05:33,144 at that point. 117 00:05:33,144 --> 00:05:35,441 Well, how will we cheat that? 118 00:05:35,441 --> 00:05:37,811 How will we manage window reflections? 119 00:05:37,811 --> 00:05:39,281 How will we shoot in cars? 120 00:05:39,281 --> 00:05:40,721 How will we do all these things? 121 00:05:40,721 --> 00:05:44,971 So get that dialogue going as early as possible. 122 00:05:44,971 --> 00:05:49,211 When I made "Terminator," I hired Adam Greenberg. 123 00:05:49,211 --> 00:05:53,511 And I sat down with him, and we watched two films together. 124 00:05:53,511 --> 00:05:56,991 One was "Blade Runner," and one was "The Road Warrior," 125 00:05:56,991 --> 00:05:58,101 so "Mad Max 2." 126 00:05:58,101 --> 00:05:59,611 And we watched both those films. 127 00:05:59,611 --> 00:06:02,574 And I said, I want both of those films put into a blender. 128 00:06:02,574 --> 00:06:04,491 And he said, but they're completely different. 129 00:06:04,491 --> 00:06:06,921 I said, exactly, exactly. 130 00:06:06,921 --> 00:06:10,221 How do we create a common ground between those two films, 131 00:06:10,221 --> 00:06:15,591 the kinetic, moving camera, wide lenses, hauling ass before 132 00:06:15,591 --> 00:06:19,611 and following cars, very dynamic, but at the same time, 133 00:06:19,611 --> 00:06:24,651 that moody, sort of almost noir, film noir quality, 134 00:06:24,651 --> 00:06:27,231 German expressionist quality-- strong shadows, 135 00:06:27,231 --> 00:06:30,351 deep blacks, hard edge lights, where 136 00:06:30,351 --> 00:06:33,591 you need very precise lighting control to get that effect? 137 00:06:33,591 --> 00:06:35,811 I said, we need to figure out how to do that. 138 00:06:35,811 --> 00:06:37,791 And we talked about it a lot. 139 00:06:37,791 --> 00:06:40,128 And we even went out and drove around the town 140 00:06:40,128 --> 00:06:42,711 with a light meter to find out what streets were bright enough 141 00:06:42,711 --> 00:06:46,401 that we could shoot essentially natural light at night 142 00:06:46,401 --> 00:06:48,171 or available light at night. 143 00:06:48,171 --> 00:06:50,091 Because we wouldn't have to bring 144 00:06:50,091 --> 00:06:54,231 in condors and lights and things that we couldn't afford. 145 00:06:54,231 --> 00:06:56,811 So we just found mercury vapor lights 146 00:06:56,811 --> 00:06:58,581 on streets that were brighter. 147 00:06:58,581 --> 00:07:02,961 And a good tip there is car lots, used car lots 148 00:07:02,961 --> 00:07:04,611 or new car lots. 149 00:07:04,611 --> 00:07:05,991 They always have bright lights. 150 00:07:05,991 --> 00:07:08,996 In every city, there's a row of, like, car dealerships. 151 00:07:08,996 --> 00:07:11,121 Just shoot on that street, because everything's all 152 00:07:11,121 --> 00:07:11,511 lit up. 153 00:07:11,511 --> 00:07:13,161 And you won't need any additional lights. 154 00:07:13,161 --> 00:07:14,578 Of course, these days, the cameras 155 00:07:14,578 --> 00:07:16,131 are much more sensitive. 156 00:07:16,131 --> 00:07:20,521 But we were shooting on negative at the time. 157 00:07:20,521 --> 00:07:22,491 So you know, we had to-- we had to find a way 158 00:07:22,491 --> 00:07:24,261 to shoot without a lot of lights. 159 00:07:24,261 --> 00:07:27,381 And Adam said, we're going to be shooting wide open. 160 00:07:27,381 --> 00:07:30,981 We'll be shooting at F1.4 on prime lenses. 161 00:07:30,981 --> 00:07:34,491 So you know, I had schooled myself 162 00:07:34,491 --> 00:07:36,531 on the nature of lenses and photography enough 163 00:07:36,531 --> 00:07:39,901 by that point to understand I won't have a zoom lens. 164 00:07:39,901 --> 00:07:42,561 So if I need to change lenses, that's going to take us time. 165 00:07:42,561 --> 00:07:44,871 I have to factor that into my shooting day. 166 00:07:44,871 --> 00:07:46,881 And you know, I wanted a Steadicam. 167 00:07:46,881 --> 00:07:48,531 We couldn't afford a Steadicam. 168 00:07:48,531 --> 00:07:51,891 So the DP made a rig with some speed rail 169 00:07:51,891 --> 00:07:54,876 tubing to drop the camera down into it, 170 00:07:54,876 --> 00:07:56,661 like a Steadicam low-mode type position. 171 00:07:56,661 --> 00:07:59,286 And he just kind of wore it with some straps over his shoulder. 172 00:07:59,286 --> 00:08:01,521 And he happened to be an extremely good 173 00:08:01,521 --> 00:08:04,791 handheld operator. 174 00:08:04,791 --> 00:08:08,661 So he created, essentially, low-mode Steadicam shots, 175 00:08:08,661 --> 00:08:11,101 and we just did it that way. 176 00:08:11,101 --> 00:08:13,161 And so you know, you have to use-- 177 00:08:13,161 --> 00:08:17,131 you have to use every trick in the book and invent new ones. 178 00:08:17,131 --> 00:08:20,221 The whole film was shot in about 42 days. 179 00:08:20,221 --> 00:08:24,801 And when I got it done, when I got that body of shooting done, 180 00:08:24,801 --> 00:08:26,731 there were still some shots I needed. 181 00:08:26,731 --> 00:08:29,441 So I snuck back out with five people 182 00:08:29,441 --> 00:08:32,471 and shot for a week, five people. 183 00:08:32,471 --> 00:08:33,971 And I operated the camera myself. 184 00:08:33,971 --> 00:08:34,646 I lit it myself. 185 00:08:34,646 --> 00:08:35,271 I did all that. 186 00:08:35,271 --> 00:08:40,221 So you have to be prepared to accomplish your goal 187 00:08:40,221 --> 00:08:47,751 in ingenious ways and know where it's okay to compromise 188 00:08:47,751 --> 00:08:49,191 and where it isn't. 189 00:08:49,191 --> 00:08:52,401 And rehearse the crap out of it ahead of time. 190 00:08:52,401 --> 00:08:57,411 Because rehearsals are cheap or free, and they pay off. 191 00:08:57,411 --> 00:09:00,351 And have very, very good communication 192 00:09:00,351 --> 00:09:02,671 with your director of photography, 193 00:09:02,671 --> 00:09:04,528 so that you know exactly how you're 194 00:09:04,528 --> 00:09:05,611 going to shoot everything. 195 00:09:05,611 --> 00:09:09,661 And be prepared with a plan B and a plan C, in case 196 00:09:09,661 --> 00:09:11,761 it's raining, or there's something else that 197 00:09:11,761 --> 00:09:13,141 stands in your way on the day. 198 00:09:13,141 --> 00:09:15,091 Because at that kind of budget, you're 199 00:09:15,091 --> 00:09:17,161 not going to be able to get to go back. 200 00:09:17,161 --> 00:09:20,491 And you know, I go on for hours about all the cheap house 201 00:09:20,491 --> 00:09:23,521 tricks that we used on "Terminator" to tell that-- 202 00:09:23,521 --> 00:09:25,081 to tell that story. 203 00:09:25,081 --> 00:09:28,651 But the important thing is to serve-- 204 00:09:28,651 --> 00:09:30,241 is to serve the story. 205 00:09:30,241 --> 00:09:32,671 Find a way to serve the story and give it some style. 206 00:09:39,581 --> 00:09:43,631 If I were shooting a very low-budget film right now, 207 00:09:43,631 --> 00:09:46,421 and I need to get a lot of setups a day, 208 00:09:46,421 --> 00:09:48,881 I would have a game plan for every day 209 00:09:48,881 --> 00:09:55,031 of shooting that involved the nature of the lighting. 210 00:09:55,031 --> 00:09:57,491 Because you lose a lot of time to lighting. 211 00:09:57,491 --> 00:09:58,931 And it's technical. 212 00:09:58,931 --> 00:10:02,366 It's understanding it's going to take time to move. 213 00:10:02,366 --> 00:10:04,541 If you've designed the scene in such a way 214 00:10:04,541 --> 00:10:07,323 that you have a big lighting change, that lighting change is 215 00:10:07,323 --> 00:10:08,531 going to take time, you know. 216 00:10:08,531 --> 00:10:10,781 Typically, people call it turning around. 217 00:10:10,781 --> 00:10:12,911 You've shot the scene in this direction, 218 00:10:12,911 --> 00:10:14,591 and the same lighting can't be used. 219 00:10:14,591 --> 00:10:17,171 If you bring the camera around to do your 180 220 00:10:17,171 --> 00:10:19,981 reverses or your reverse over the shoulders, 221 00:10:19,981 --> 00:10:20,981 it's going to look flat. 222 00:10:20,981 --> 00:10:22,451 It's going to look horrible. 223 00:10:22,451 --> 00:10:25,331 And the lighting has to be all cheated 224 00:10:25,331 --> 00:10:28,841 so that that reverse actually looks pleasing to the eye. 225 00:10:28,841 --> 00:10:31,151 I remember once, just to prove the point to myself, 226 00:10:31,151 --> 00:10:36,281 after I had made "Titanic" and done these big films, "Titanic" 227 00:10:36,281 --> 00:10:38,501 and "True Lies" and films like that, 228 00:10:38,501 --> 00:10:40,301 I did the last episode of a series 229 00:10:40,301 --> 00:10:43,401 that I was producing called "Dark Angel." 230 00:10:43,401 --> 00:10:45,951 And just to prove that I could do it, 231 00:10:45,951 --> 00:10:49,361 I did 117 setups in one day. 232 00:10:49,361 --> 00:10:51,291 And I did it in the following way. 233 00:10:51,291 --> 00:10:54,461 I said, you will not bring a C stand or a flag 234 00:10:54,461 --> 00:10:58,481 or a sandbag or any lighting instrument into the set. 235 00:10:58,481 --> 00:11:00,941 We will light the set from across the street 236 00:11:00,941 --> 00:11:06,371 with four 10k Xenons, and I will move every shot to the light. 237 00:11:06,371 --> 00:11:07,991 We won't move the lights to the shot. 238 00:11:07,991 --> 00:11:11,621 And it was a big kind of suspense action fight scene. 239 00:11:11,621 --> 00:11:13,811 It was 117 setups in one day. 240 00:11:13,811 --> 00:11:15,161 I shot it all handheld. 241 00:11:15,161 --> 00:11:17,351 It was myself and another operator. 242 00:11:17,351 --> 00:11:20,231 We kept the crew out of the workspace. 243 00:11:20,231 --> 00:11:21,971 We had the stunt people standing by 244 00:11:21,971 --> 00:11:24,671 to pop in for the actors at a moment's notice 245 00:11:24,671 --> 00:11:26,531 within the fight choreography. 246 00:11:26,531 --> 00:11:30,223 We had all our multiple takes of our effects breaking glass 247 00:11:30,223 --> 00:11:31,931 and breakaway wood doors, and things like 248 00:11:31,931 --> 00:11:33,701 that, all set up in advance. 249 00:11:33,701 --> 00:11:38,051 I never did a second take of the same gag. 250 00:11:38,051 --> 00:11:41,861 But I did have five takes of the gag ready of somebody getting 251 00:11:41,861 --> 00:11:43,121 thrown through a window. 252 00:11:43,121 --> 00:11:44,081 We threw them through one window, 253 00:11:44,081 --> 00:11:45,461 and then we threw them through the next window, 254 00:11:45,461 --> 00:11:47,003 and we threw them through the window. 255 00:11:47,003 --> 00:11:49,221 And I made sure that it would all cut together. 256 00:11:49,221 --> 00:11:51,604 So there are tricks like that that you can do. 257 00:11:51,604 --> 00:11:53,771 And it was a little bit of a competition with Robert 258 00:11:53,771 --> 00:11:55,646 Rodriguez, because I think he had done, like, 259 00:11:55,646 --> 00:11:59,861 105 setups or something in one day on one of his films. 260 00:11:59,861 --> 00:12:06,221 And Robert, of course, has written much and done much 261 00:12:06,221 --> 00:12:09,521 to disseminate his ideas for how you do low budget. 262 00:12:09,521 --> 00:12:12,551 So the point is it can be done, and it 263 00:12:12,551 --> 00:12:17,401 can be done with relatively low level of compromise. 1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:03,514 2 00:00:21,874 --> 00:00:23,791 JAMES CAMERON: Arnold Schwarzenegger sucked up 3 00:00:23,791 --> 00:00:25,381 a whole bunch of our budget. 4 00:00:25,381 --> 00:00:29,041 What we had left to make the movie wasn't a lot. 5 00:00:29,041 --> 00:00:31,621 It was around-- around, as I said, around $4 million 6 00:00:31,621 --> 00:00:36,031 for a-- for a pretty ambitious film of a lot of big action 7 00:00:36,031 --> 00:00:37,231 sequences. 8 00:00:37,231 --> 00:00:41,221 And, as anybody knows, night street photography 9 00:00:41,221 --> 00:00:44,041 can be expensive, big action sequences are expensive, 10 00:00:44,041 --> 00:00:46,171 big stunts are expensive. 11 00:00:46,171 --> 00:00:49,261 Visual effects, creating a future world is expensive, 12 00:00:49,261 --> 00:00:54,221 and doing prosthetic makeup can be expensive. 13 00:00:54,221 --> 00:00:55,783 But, you know, I also knew that it 14 00:00:55,783 --> 00:00:57,491 could be done on a shoestring because I'd 15 00:00:57,491 --> 00:00:59,621 worked for Roger Corman for a few years 16 00:00:59,621 --> 00:01:02,301 and we'd done all that stuff. 17 00:01:02,301 --> 00:01:05,201 So, once again, the key was preparation. 18 00:01:05,201 --> 00:01:06,791 So clearly these storyboards were 19 00:01:06,791 --> 00:01:08,861 drawn in that-- in that six-month interval 20 00:01:08,861 --> 00:01:13,381 after I knew I had Arnold and I had time to plan. 21 00:01:13,381 --> 00:01:15,361 So this is clearly-- 22 00:01:15,361 --> 00:01:18,181 Arnold has been-- his likeness has been incorporated 23 00:01:18,181 --> 00:01:19,501 into the storyboards. 24 00:01:19,501 --> 00:01:21,751 So he enters the room. 25 00:01:21,751 --> 00:01:22,701 He's a shadowy figure. 26 00:01:22,701 --> 00:01:24,111 He turns on the light. 27 00:01:24,111 --> 00:01:28,671 We see the effect of Reese's firing back at him 28 00:01:28,671 --> 00:01:31,161 and the car chase and the crash and everything. 29 00:01:31,161 --> 00:01:34,611 His eye has been smashed, it's swollen shut. 30 00:01:34,611 --> 00:01:37,761 We're starting to realize that he's partially biological, 31 00:01:37,761 --> 00:01:40,671 that he's a cyborg. 32 00:01:40,671 --> 00:01:43,786 And-- but we don't know exactly why he's-- we don't know yet 33 00:01:43,786 --> 00:01:44,661 why he's bulletproof. 34 00:01:44,661 --> 00:01:46,881 We don't know he has this-- 35 00:01:46,881 --> 00:01:50,361 we don't know that he has this endoskeleton inside him. 36 00:01:50,361 --> 00:01:53,541 We just know that he seems to be kind of bulletproof, 37 00:01:53,541 --> 00:01:54,574 but we don't know why. 38 00:01:54,574 --> 00:01:56,241 And we're being led to believe that he's 39 00:01:56,241 --> 00:01:57,621 a biological organism. 40 00:01:57,621 --> 00:01:59,721 He's bleeding, he's swollen, and so on. 41 00:01:59,721 --> 00:02:02,841 So it's-- in a funny way, it's kind of a misdirect. 42 00:02:02,841 --> 00:02:06,051 So he sits down, he looks at a place 43 00:02:06,051 --> 00:02:09,440 where his arm was hit by Reese's 12-gauge shotgun. 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,421 And he's prepared himself in advance 45 00:02:11,421 --> 00:02:12,921 in case he needs repairs. 46 00:02:12,921 --> 00:02:16,271 He reaches over, picks up an X-Acto knife, 47 00:02:16,271 --> 00:02:20,801 and it begins to cut his wrist open. 48 00:02:20,801 --> 00:02:23,381 And then I even took the liberty of working with my friend 49 00:02:23,381 --> 00:02:25,721 Stan Winston to figure out how we were going to do it, 50 00:02:25,721 --> 00:02:28,121 because we wanted to see his hand moving, we wanted 51 00:02:28,121 --> 00:02:30,881 to see the actuators, the hydraulic actuators moving 52 00:02:30,881 --> 00:02:32,471 in his forearm. 53 00:02:32,471 --> 00:02:36,211 And so we came up with the idea that he would-- 54 00:02:36,211 --> 00:02:38,071 he would hide his real arm. 55 00:02:38,071 --> 00:02:40,051 He would have a false arm, and there'd 56 00:02:40,051 --> 00:02:42,211 be a puppeteer underneath the table coming up 57 00:02:42,211 --> 00:02:44,291 through a hole in the desk. 58 00:02:44,291 --> 00:02:48,581 His hand was inside a sort of glove that continued this way. 59 00:02:48,581 --> 00:02:51,161 It was actually quite a clever solution. 60 00:02:51,161 --> 00:02:53,291 I incorporated that into the storyboards. 61 00:02:53,291 --> 00:02:56,451 That's how Stan and I decided that we were going to do it. 62 00:02:56,451 --> 00:02:59,741 So he cuts his wrist, and then he-- 63 00:02:59,741 --> 00:03:02,831 you know, we see him-- we see him working. 64 00:03:02,831 --> 00:03:05,561 We don't see what he's doing, we don't see the surgery step 65 00:03:05,561 --> 00:03:06,311 by step. 66 00:03:06,311 --> 00:03:08,561 He puts down the X-Acto knife. 67 00:03:08,561 --> 00:03:09,861 A little bit of blood on it. 68 00:03:09,861 --> 00:03:11,991 And then we see the result of it. 69 00:03:11,991 --> 00:03:16,091 Now I had elected that he basically kind of flayed open 70 00:03:16,091 --> 00:03:18,221 all of the skin of his forearm and we all-- 71 00:03:18,221 --> 00:03:20,141 we see the mechanism underneath. 72 00:03:20,141 --> 00:03:22,061 And this was meant to be the big reveal. 73 00:03:22,061 --> 00:03:23,081 He's a cyborg. 74 00:03:23,081 --> 00:03:28,681 He's a machine with some kind of fleshy outer coating. 75 00:03:28,681 --> 00:03:30,511 When we actually did the scene, we 76 00:03:30,511 --> 00:03:33,633 wound up with it being a more contained surgical site, 77 00:03:33,633 --> 00:03:35,341 and I don't remember the reason for that. 78 00:03:35,341 --> 00:03:37,201 Maybe they just decided it was easier to do 79 00:03:37,201 --> 00:03:39,151 or maybe we were a little concerned 80 00:03:39,151 --> 00:03:42,871 about our-- the graphicness of that for the rating. 81 00:03:42,871 --> 00:03:47,121 So now let's take a quick look at the scene. 82 00:03:47,121 --> 00:03:49,701 Let's see where the storyboard led us. 83 00:03:49,701 --> 00:03:51,861 So I'll go back to the beginning storyboard here. 84 00:03:51,861 --> 00:03:52,201 All right. 85 00:03:52,201 --> 00:03:54,118 So we've got the character coming in a window. 86 00:03:54,118 --> 00:03:57,081 The character appears, throwing their shadow on a window. 87 00:03:57,081 --> 00:03:59,579 For a lighting effect, we went with a Venetian blind 88 00:03:59,579 --> 00:04:02,121 so that we could get that kind of German expressionistic kind 89 00:04:02,121 --> 00:04:06,771 of feeling with the shadows thrown by a Venetian blind. 90 00:04:06,771 --> 00:04:10,071 There's a fire escape ladder here, fire escape ladder here. 91 00:04:10,071 --> 00:04:13,131 Different orientation, but it's the same visual cue. 92 00:04:13,131 --> 00:04:15,081 We're in a higher level of the building. 93 00:04:15,081 --> 00:04:16,521 He's coming in the back way, so we 94 00:04:16,521 --> 00:04:19,191 didn't have to go through the lobby and up the elevator. 95 00:04:19,191 --> 00:04:20,901 He's come up the fire escape. 96 00:04:20,901 --> 00:04:23,031 There's some kind of neon sign outside. 97 00:04:23,031 --> 00:04:25,041 It sort of tells us we're still urban 98 00:04:25,041 --> 00:04:29,721 and we're in some flophouse that's on-- on an upper level. 99 00:04:29,721 --> 00:04:31,221 We can tell it's kind of a flophouse 100 00:04:31,221 --> 00:04:34,821 because it's-- it's decorated in a very crude way. 101 00:04:34,821 --> 00:04:38,741 He walks in as a silhouette. 102 00:04:38,741 --> 00:04:41,471 We don't see much. 103 00:04:41,471 --> 00:04:45,041 And he puts on the light, and we go to the close-up. 104 00:04:45,041 --> 00:04:46,091 Light bulb is in frame. 105 00:04:46,091 --> 00:04:50,341 This is tracking very closely to the storyboard. 106 00:04:50,341 --> 00:04:51,871 Here's the storyboard. 107 00:04:51,871 --> 00:04:53,341 Light bulb's in frame. 108 00:04:53,341 --> 00:04:54,901 Naked light. 109 00:04:54,901 --> 00:04:57,421 And we see his injuries. 110 00:04:57,421 --> 00:04:59,611 And that's very much what we shot. 111 00:04:59,611 --> 00:05:02,101 So we had a very clear intention with the scene. 112 00:05:02,101 --> 00:05:04,021 We knew beat by beat what we were doing. 113 00:05:04,021 --> 00:05:06,061 So stylistically we're right in the zone, 114 00:05:06,061 --> 00:05:09,211 we knew what we were doing because we drew it up. 115 00:05:09,211 --> 00:05:11,371 It starts with the art. 116 00:05:11,371 --> 00:05:13,861 And so these-- these drawings are not only storyboards, 117 00:05:13,861 --> 00:05:18,171 but they're also, in a sense, design drawings or style guide. 118 00:05:18,171 --> 00:05:21,911 So go to the next-- next series. 119 00:05:21,911 --> 00:05:27,501 He reveals the injury and he starts to do the surgery. 120 00:05:27,501 --> 00:05:29,551 And that's literally the next cut. 121 00:05:29,551 --> 00:05:33,111 So here, he sits down, and the reason we decided to do this 122 00:05:33,111 --> 00:05:35,361 was to show the audience that there wasn't a hole here 123 00:05:35,361 --> 00:05:38,781 with a puppeteer underneath-- to implant subconsciously 124 00:05:38,781 --> 00:05:41,881 in the audience's mind that it is just a normal table. 125 00:05:41,881 --> 00:05:43,131 He puts his hand on the table. 126 00:05:56,131 --> 00:05:58,143 He reveals the wound. 127 00:05:58,143 --> 00:05:59,851 And then he reaches for the X-Acto knife. 128 00:05:59,851 --> 00:06:01,643 And I knew that that was a critical cutting 129 00:06:01,643 --> 00:06:03,361 piece that we needed. 130 00:06:03,361 --> 00:06:05,031 That's this shot. 131 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:09,111 So this was just a, you know, 100-millimeter macro 132 00:06:09,111 --> 00:06:11,061 shot that we did deep in post-production. 133 00:06:11,061 --> 00:06:15,501 I probably-- I probably did this shot for 20 bucks. 134 00:06:15,501 --> 00:06:17,661 Shot it myself, you know? 135 00:06:17,661 --> 00:06:20,091 I didn't waste time on my inserts 136 00:06:20,091 --> 00:06:22,941 when I was shooting with Arnold Schwarzenegger. 137 00:06:22,941 --> 00:06:23,798 I picked my battles. 138 00:06:23,798 --> 00:06:25,881 And I knew that I could pick up all kinds of stuff 139 00:06:25,881 --> 00:06:28,971 later down and dirty on the cheap 140 00:06:28,971 --> 00:06:31,401 just by renting a camera and a couple of lights, 141 00:06:31,401 --> 00:06:32,481 and I think we-- 142 00:06:32,481 --> 00:06:37,371 I think we shot this on my desk at my apartment. 143 00:06:37,371 --> 00:06:40,626 But, knowing that you have that cut, now 144 00:06:40,626 --> 00:06:44,241 in the next shot we see, geez, it looks the same, right? 145 00:06:44,241 --> 00:06:44,991 Except it's not. 146 00:06:44,991 --> 00:06:47,031 We've gone to this other setup. 147 00:06:47,031 --> 00:06:50,181 We've gone to this setup. 148 00:06:50,181 --> 00:06:52,593 And now you could use and blend it. 149 00:06:52,593 --> 00:06:54,051 He could put his hand down and then 150 00:06:54,051 --> 00:06:58,731 you could literally blend to the-- the other practical gag 151 00:06:58,731 --> 00:07:00,351 and it would be seamless. 152 00:07:00,351 --> 00:07:01,071 But who cares? 153 00:07:01,071 --> 00:07:02,131 It worked. 154 00:07:02,131 --> 00:07:04,731 So he starts to cut that same arm 155 00:07:04,731 --> 00:07:06,981 that you think is Arnold's arm that he just set down. 156 00:07:06,981 --> 00:07:08,911 Now he's-- now he's hogging into it. 157 00:07:08,911 --> 00:07:09,741 We cut to Arnold. 158 00:07:09,741 --> 00:07:11,599 There's a known cutaway that was known ahead 159 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:12,891 of time, planned ahead of time. 160 00:07:16,231 --> 00:07:17,901 He sets the knife down. 161 00:07:17,901 --> 00:07:19,431 That's this shot. 162 00:07:19,431 --> 00:07:21,711 There's Arnold working, there's the knife going down, 163 00:07:21,711 --> 00:07:26,031 and then we're going to reveal what it is he's been doing. 164 00:07:26,031 --> 00:07:29,991 And he reaches in with a pair of forceps. 165 00:07:29,991 --> 00:07:34,011 Again, using inserts to create tension and a sense of detail. 166 00:07:38,571 --> 00:07:40,221 And he's opened up his arm and we 167 00:07:40,221 --> 00:07:42,051 see the actuators moving inside the arm 168 00:07:42,051 --> 00:07:43,831 and we actually even punch in on it. 169 00:07:43,831 --> 00:07:48,711 But the key to it was to hold in this tilt down where we're 170 00:07:48,711 --> 00:07:50,991 coming off his face down, down his arm. 171 00:07:50,991 --> 00:07:53,271 We have no reason to think it's not Arnold's arm, 172 00:07:53,271 --> 00:07:55,371 and we see it moving, and through the hole, 173 00:07:55,371 --> 00:07:56,591 we can glimpse the actuator. 174 00:07:56,591 --> 00:07:57,801 So how'd they do that? 175 00:07:57,801 --> 00:08:01,281 I mean, you've got to remember, this is 1984. 176 00:08:01,281 --> 00:08:04,641 So I think anybody that studies a sequence can kind of see 177 00:08:04,641 --> 00:08:09,171 how it's done now, but the point is, 178 00:08:09,171 --> 00:08:11,241 that with a little planning, a little ingenuity, 179 00:08:11,241 --> 00:08:13,521 working with the right people and Stan Winston-- 180 00:08:13,521 --> 00:08:15,171 he was just coming up at the time, 181 00:08:15,171 --> 00:08:19,611 he became one of the top world-class prosthetics 182 00:08:19,611 --> 00:08:23,721 and makeup effects designers, you figure it out. 183 00:08:23,721 --> 00:08:25,771 You figure it out ahead of time, you draw it up, 184 00:08:25,771 --> 00:08:28,611 and if it works in a drawing, it's going to work on film. 185 00:08:28,611 --> 00:08:31,401 Because film is also about image replacement 186 00:08:31,401 --> 00:08:33,330 and image retention. 187 00:08:33,330 --> 00:08:35,690 So seeing Arnold put his arm down and then cutting back 188 00:08:35,690 --> 00:08:38,481 to a very similar angle where it's not his arm, it's now-- 189 00:08:38,481 --> 00:08:42,111 it's now your effects gag, creates the impression that 190 00:08:42,111 --> 00:08:44,361 it's still his arm, and when you cut it open, you're-- 191 00:08:44,361 --> 00:08:46,221 Arnold's cutting his arm open. 192 00:08:46,221 --> 00:08:50,491 So once again, the emphasis here is on-- is on planning. 193 00:08:50,491 --> 00:08:53,181 When we go to the next sequence where he operates 194 00:08:53,181 --> 00:08:54,741 on his eye, very similar thing. 195 00:09:39,091 --> 00:09:42,331 The payoff is the moment where he sticks the exact knife 196 00:09:42,331 --> 00:09:43,021 into his eye. 197 00:09:43,021 --> 00:09:45,396 Well clearly we're not having Arnold Schwarzenegger stick 198 00:09:45,396 --> 00:09:47,441 an X-Acto knife into his eye. 199 00:09:47,441 --> 00:09:49,981 So this is what we came up with. 200 00:09:49,981 --> 00:09:52,351 That we'd have a puppet head that 201 00:09:52,351 --> 00:09:56,431 was actuated by a puppeteer's hand inside the head. 202 00:09:56,431 --> 00:09:59,721 And there'd be one person who was pretending 203 00:09:59,721 --> 00:10:03,021 to be Arnold's right arm and a completely other person 204 00:10:03,021 --> 00:10:05,511 was pretending to be Arnold's left arm. 205 00:10:05,511 --> 00:10:07,971 And as memory serves, I think Arnold was actually 206 00:10:07,971 --> 00:10:09,211 one of the people. 207 00:10:09,211 --> 00:10:12,721 So we actually got his real hand on-- on one of them. 208 00:10:12,721 --> 00:10:15,171 And so once again, the frame is-- 209 00:10:15,171 --> 00:10:17,526 it's what's outside of the frame you're not processing-- 210 00:10:17,526 --> 00:10:18,651 you're not able to process. 211 00:10:18,651 --> 00:10:21,681 You're only given what's inside that frame. 212 00:10:21,681 --> 00:10:23,481 So here he is cutting into his eyeball, 213 00:10:23,481 --> 00:10:25,791 and this is the puppet head. 214 00:10:25,791 --> 00:10:28,851 And here's-- here's one person's hand and here's the other 215 00:10:28,851 --> 00:10:29,961 person's hand. 216 00:10:29,961 --> 00:10:31,581 And you can see that they-- 217 00:10:31,581 --> 00:10:34,521 they map very well to each other in terms of-- 218 00:10:34,521 --> 00:10:36,171 of how the shot was done. 219 00:10:36,171 --> 00:10:40,341 And you're led to believe that it's Arnold, 220 00:10:40,341 --> 00:10:43,011 or at least you're not quite sure of how it's being done. 221 00:10:46,961 --> 00:10:48,661 And then here, he's just faking it. 222 00:10:48,661 --> 00:10:52,218 If you look very carefully, if I were to stop it on a frame-- 223 00:10:52,218 --> 00:10:54,301 and this is just kind of looking behind the scene, 224 00:10:54,301 --> 00:10:57,991 there's no blade in that X-Acto knife. 225 00:10:57,991 --> 00:10:59,581 We're not going to have Arnold screw 226 00:10:59,581 --> 00:11:02,101 around with an X-Acto knife up next to his eye. 227 00:11:02,101 --> 00:11:04,261 Safety was more important than us being seen. 228 00:11:04,261 --> 00:11:06,901 And there was no digital way to put the blade in back then. 229 00:11:06,901 --> 00:11:09,211 Now, you could have him poke himself 230 00:11:09,211 --> 00:11:12,883 in the face with a-- with a bladeless X-Acto knife 231 00:11:12,883 --> 00:11:14,341 and put the blade in later and even 232 00:11:14,341 --> 00:11:16,571 see it come out of his skin or whatever, 233 00:11:16,571 --> 00:11:18,361 it'd be very easy to do. 234 00:11:18,361 --> 00:11:19,891 In those days I just took the chance 235 00:11:19,891 --> 00:11:21,451 that people wouldn't see it. 236 00:11:21,451 --> 00:11:22,656 And they don't see it. 237 00:11:22,656 --> 00:11:24,031 Because they see what they expect 238 00:11:24,031 --> 00:11:27,001 to see, up to a certain point, unless you really 239 00:11:27,001 --> 00:11:28,301 play fast and loose. 240 00:11:28,301 --> 00:11:31,951 There's even one shot earlier in the sequence that's even more 241 00:11:31,951 --> 00:11:35,261 blatant, and it's this one. 242 00:11:35,261 --> 00:11:37,406 He literally is just raising an X-Acto knife 243 00:11:37,406 --> 00:11:39,041 that has no blade in it. 244 00:11:39,041 --> 00:11:41,301 But we want there to be a blade there. 245 00:11:41,301 --> 00:11:43,961 And I don't remember anybody raising a fuss about it 246 00:11:43,961 --> 00:11:44,531 at the time. 247 00:11:44,531 --> 00:11:46,631 Now, of course, with internet trolls, 248 00:11:46,631 --> 00:11:49,491 it'll be all over the place within 24 hours. 249 00:11:49,491 --> 00:11:50,981 Aha, those idiots. 250 00:11:50,981 --> 00:11:53,261 But at the time, there was a willing suspension 251 00:11:53,261 --> 00:11:58,171 of disbelief, because effects were cruder back in that day. 252 00:11:58,171 --> 00:12:01,101 And as-- the farther you go back, the cruder they were. 253 00:12:01,101 --> 00:12:03,921 The willing suspension of disbelief was greater. 254 00:12:03,921 --> 00:12:05,931 Now, the willing suspension of disbelief 255 00:12:05,931 --> 00:12:08,619 is not as great, so you've got to be even better. 256 00:12:08,619 --> 00:12:10,911 But the good news is, the effects techniques are better 257 00:12:10,911 --> 00:12:11,751 and they're cheaper. 258 00:12:11,751 --> 00:12:14,391 So you meet-- you meet the demand. 259 00:12:14,391 --> 00:12:16,071 It's a constant dance. 260 00:12:16,071 --> 00:12:18,429 But, you know, just full disclosure, 261 00:12:18,429 --> 00:12:19,971 there's no blade in the X-Acto knife, 262 00:12:19,971 --> 00:12:22,096 and it's right there in front of God and everybody, 263 00:12:22,096 --> 00:12:24,501 and people want to see that there's a blade there, 264 00:12:24,501 --> 00:12:26,331 and so they do. 265 00:12:26,331 --> 00:12:30,561 So once again, a very low-budget film 266 00:12:30,561 --> 00:12:34,101 that was trying very, very hard to punch above its weight. 267 00:12:34,101 --> 00:12:38,271 And when I see it today, you know, it more or less holds up. 268 00:12:38,271 --> 00:12:40,941 There's a lot of little cringey moments, you know? 269 00:12:40,941 --> 00:12:42,741 But I think it did manage to punch 270 00:12:42,741 --> 00:12:44,871 above its weight for its-- for its time period. 271 00:12:44,871 --> 00:12:46,881 And that's what you always want to aspire to, 272 00:12:46,881 --> 00:12:50,611 I think, as a filmmaker working on a low budget. 273 00:12:50,611 --> 00:12:52,581 Try to look like more than what you had. 274 00:12:52,581 --> 00:12:55,931 1 00:00:03,332 --> 00:00:05,701 2 00:00:05,701 --> 00:00:07,271 JAMES CAMERON: Generally speaking, 3 00:00:07,271 --> 00:00:09,991 a lot of visual effects works against you 4 00:00:09,991 --> 00:00:10,891 for a lot of reasons. 5 00:00:10,891 --> 00:00:11,831 It can be numbing. 6 00:00:11,831 --> 00:00:14,731 You can kind of debase the value of a given effect 7 00:00:14,731 --> 00:00:16,891 by having too many of them. 8 00:00:16,891 --> 00:00:18,451 They can blow your budget. 9 00:00:18,451 --> 00:00:22,741 It's better to have a few memorable set pieces. 10 00:00:33,111 --> 00:00:35,091 From a writing standpoint, I sort of treat it 11 00:00:35,091 --> 00:00:36,261 as a standalone thing. 12 00:00:36,261 --> 00:00:39,748 I'll figure out where it's going to start, what the kickoff is. 13 00:00:39,748 --> 00:00:42,081 You know, what the kind of opening bell of the set piece 14 00:00:42,081 --> 00:00:43,518 is and where the resolution is. 15 00:00:43,518 --> 00:00:44,601 I'll figure out where my-- 16 00:00:44,601 --> 00:00:46,401 my out point is. 17 00:00:46,401 --> 00:00:50,361 And then I'll work within that so that it's not too long, 18 00:00:50,361 --> 00:00:54,471 it-- it stays focused and it stays of a piece. 19 00:00:54,471 --> 00:00:56,691 And, I mean, I think there's-- 20 00:00:56,691 --> 00:00:59,151 just like there's an art to scene writing, 21 00:00:59,151 --> 00:01:02,511 I think there's an art to creating a set piece. 22 00:01:02,511 --> 00:01:04,581 It's kind of a film within a film, 23 00:01:04,581 --> 00:01:06,861 and it kind of has its own-- own rules, 24 00:01:06,861 --> 00:01:09,261 and it's got a beginning, a middle, and an end, 25 00:01:09,261 --> 00:01:10,521 some kind of resolution. 26 00:01:10,521 --> 00:01:13,551 That end may or may coincide with an act break 27 00:01:13,551 --> 00:01:14,781 or it may not. 28 00:01:14,781 --> 00:01:17,271 But, you know, a suspense sequence 29 00:01:17,271 --> 00:01:21,531 or a scene, a dramatic scene in a film 30 00:01:21,531 --> 00:01:23,991 might be a four or five-page dialogue 31 00:01:23,991 --> 00:01:27,591 scene that's done in some stylized way, 32 00:01:27,591 --> 00:01:29,421 maybe without any cuts. 33 00:01:29,421 --> 00:01:34,761 Maybe some circulating Steadicam shot that moves sinuously 34 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:37,041 through some dramatic moment. 35 00:01:37,041 --> 00:01:39,081 That would be a-- that would be a set piece. 36 00:01:39,081 --> 00:01:41,081 So then you have to pick your battles carefully. 37 00:01:41,081 --> 00:01:44,151 What's the narrative purpose of the set piece? 38 00:01:44,151 --> 00:01:46,791 So to use the example from "Terminator" 39 00:01:46,791 --> 00:01:49,461 of the first future flashback, it was actually 40 00:01:49,461 --> 00:01:50,911 just to build character. 41 00:01:50,911 --> 00:01:52,161 For Michael Biehn's character. 42 00:01:52,161 --> 00:01:54,021 It was to show his traumatic world 43 00:01:54,021 --> 00:01:57,951 and why he was basically a walking, physically-scarred, 44 00:01:57,951 --> 00:02:01,681 and mentally-scarred example of post-traumatic stress syndrome. 45 00:02:01,681 --> 00:02:04,611 He was the living embodiment in the present day 46 00:02:04,611 --> 00:02:09,621 of how bad that future was and why you needed to prevent it 47 00:02:09,621 --> 00:02:11,060 from occurring, right? 48 00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:14,421 So it had a powerful narrative and character 49 00:02:14,421 --> 00:02:16,461 purpose in that film, but it was also 50 00:02:16,461 --> 00:02:18,531 just stuff I wanted to see. 51 00:02:18,531 --> 00:02:20,181 And that's another thing. 52 00:02:20,181 --> 00:02:23,631 Is there are a lot of kind of rules and advisories 53 00:02:23,631 --> 00:02:26,751 about why you put things in movies, and-- 54 00:02:26,751 --> 00:02:31,101 and they all have to serve a purpose, except they don't. 55 00:02:31,101 --> 00:02:33,831 Sometimes it should just be something 56 00:02:33,831 --> 00:02:36,531 you want to see as a filmmaker. 57 00:02:36,531 --> 00:02:38,751 And sometimes the only way to see it 58 00:02:38,751 --> 00:02:41,541 is to make it and show it. 59 00:02:41,541 --> 00:02:43,191 And I remember having this discussion 60 00:02:43,191 --> 00:02:45,441 with one of the heads of 20th Century Fox 61 00:02:45,441 --> 00:02:49,191 when "Avatar" was almost done and they were complaining 62 00:02:49,191 --> 00:02:50,751 about the flying scenes. 63 00:02:50,751 --> 00:02:54,271 Why does this flying scene go on so long? 64 00:02:54,271 --> 00:02:56,271 And you've-- you've already proved the point. 65 00:02:56,271 --> 00:02:57,686 It doesn't advance the narrative, 66 00:02:57,686 --> 00:02:59,061 it doesn't advance the character. 67 00:02:59,061 --> 00:03:00,561 I said, you're right on every count, 68 00:03:00,561 --> 00:03:04,041 you've ticked every box like a good studio executive. 69 00:03:04,041 --> 00:03:05,731 But guess what? 70 00:03:05,731 --> 00:03:07,771 I want to see it. 71 00:03:07,771 --> 00:03:10,621 And I extrapolate from that, and Stanley Kubrick 72 00:03:10,621 --> 00:03:13,171 was a firm proponent of this principle. 73 00:03:13,171 --> 00:03:16,111 If I want to see it, my cognitive leap 74 00:03:16,111 --> 00:03:18,781 is, there are going to be lots of people that want to see it. 75 00:03:18,781 --> 00:03:24,771 I want to see it for itself, not for its purpose, right? 76 00:03:24,771 --> 00:03:28,101 Because there is a purpose to the things you want to see. 77 00:03:28,101 --> 00:03:31,701 The purpose is to be present, to be in that world, 78 00:03:31,701 --> 00:03:35,721 to be enjoying what's happening, to sustain a feeling. 79 00:03:35,721 --> 00:03:38,761 So those flying scenes actually did have a big purpose. 80 00:03:38,761 --> 00:03:41,271 That's when Jake and Neytiri fell in love. 81 00:03:41,271 --> 00:03:44,751 And I got into a big fight with the studio over that. 82 00:03:44,751 --> 00:03:47,961 And I'd like to say fortunately I prevailed, because I 83 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:49,041 love those flying scenes. 84 00:03:49,041 --> 00:03:49,971 They're great. 85 00:03:49,971 --> 00:03:54,561 But life is a whole lot easier if you can actually 86 00:03:54,561 --> 00:03:58,761 dig deep and examine why you've made a decision 87 00:03:58,761 --> 00:04:00,681 or why you have that instinct. 88 00:04:00,681 --> 00:04:03,921 Because it's going to cost somebody else a bunch of money 89 00:04:03,921 --> 00:04:06,021 to follow up on that instinct. 90 00:04:06,021 --> 00:04:08,601 And so the more you can share it, 91 00:04:08,601 --> 00:04:11,001 the more you can inspire others with it 92 00:04:11,001 --> 00:04:14,601 and why that choice makes sense, the better life is going to be. 93 00:04:19,881 --> 00:04:24,454 Set pieces often are good candidates for previs. 94 00:04:24,454 --> 00:04:26,371 Chances are, you're not going to have a budget 95 00:04:26,371 --> 00:04:28,651 to previs the entire picture, nor do you need to. 96 00:04:28,651 --> 00:04:30,691 You should only have to previs the things that 97 00:04:30,691 --> 00:04:33,691 are extraordinary and require really 98 00:04:33,691 --> 00:04:38,481 tight, interdepartmental planning well before the fact. 99 00:04:38,481 --> 00:04:41,911 So in terms of the previs process, you've got to-- 100 00:04:41,911 --> 00:04:43,561 you can't just start storyboarding 101 00:04:43,561 --> 00:04:44,791 until you know what things are going 102 00:04:44,791 --> 00:04:46,833 to look like, because what are you going to draw? 103 00:04:46,833 --> 00:04:50,191 Is the character wearing a trench coat or a loincloth, 104 00:04:50,191 --> 00:04:50,731 you know? 105 00:04:50,731 --> 00:04:52,773 So you have to do some design before you can even 106 00:04:52,773 --> 00:04:54,319 start storyboarding, otherwise you're 107 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:55,861 just going to do stick figures, which 108 00:04:55,861 --> 00:04:59,131 isn't going to tell anybody anything, yourself included. 109 00:04:59,131 --> 00:05:01,381 So I say start the design process, 110 00:05:01,381 --> 00:05:03,241 start to evolve the storyboards. 111 00:05:03,241 --> 00:05:05,101 Now some people work with storyboards 112 00:05:05,101 --> 00:05:08,131 and some people work more with previs tools. 113 00:05:08,131 --> 00:05:11,101 You can use a-- a suite of-- 114 00:05:11,101 --> 00:05:12,811 of keyframe previs. 115 00:05:12,811 --> 00:05:15,541 You can do a little animation pieces. 116 00:05:15,541 --> 00:05:17,161 Put a blank face, but at least it 117 00:05:17,161 --> 00:05:19,841 gives you the-- the dynamics and the framing. 118 00:05:19,841 --> 00:05:21,571 And you start to think about composition, 119 00:05:21,571 --> 00:05:23,251 you start to think about cutting. 120 00:05:23,251 --> 00:05:25,501 And now you'll-- you'll essentially do some kind 121 00:05:25,501 --> 00:05:29,521 of a pre-cut of the scene with your-- with your previs. 122 00:05:29,521 --> 00:05:31,951 It doesn't mean you're bound to shoot it that way. 123 00:05:31,951 --> 00:05:36,931 You're always going to be open to inspiration of the moment, 124 00:05:36,931 --> 00:05:38,371 but it's a good jumping-off place 125 00:05:38,371 --> 00:05:40,741 so people know how much you have to build, 126 00:05:40,741 --> 00:05:44,791 what does the director expect here in terms of the action? 127 00:05:44,791 --> 00:05:47,161 How long am I going to be on something? 128 00:05:47,161 --> 00:05:49,841 How much detail do we need? 129 00:05:49,841 --> 00:05:54,071 What kind of action are we going to try to do/ How are we going 130 00:05:54,071 --> 00:05:54,941 to move the camera? 131 00:05:54,941 --> 00:05:56,566 How are we going to support the camera? 132 00:05:56,566 --> 00:05:58,841 Is it on a crane, is it on a Steadicam, 133 00:05:58,841 --> 00:06:00,851 is it being handheld? 134 00:06:00,851 --> 00:06:05,051 You know, it starts to trigger a thousand questions. 135 00:06:05,051 --> 00:06:07,896 And a good team around you will start to hit-- 136 00:06:07,896 --> 00:06:09,521 hit you with those questions, you know? 137 00:06:09,521 --> 00:06:12,521 The DP's going to want to know, are we on a wide lens style 138 00:06:12,521 --> 00:06:14,711 or are we on a longer lens style? 139 00:06:14,711 --> 00:06:16,511 Are we on a backlight style or are 140 00:06:16,511 --> 00:06:18,471 we on a diffused light style? 141 00:06:18,471 --> 00:06:20,443 What's the style, you know? 142 00:06:20,443 --> 00:06:22,151 Because there's a thousand different ways 143 00:06:22,151 --> 00:06:24,276 to light a scene, there's a thousand different ways 144 00:06:24,276 --> 00:06:25,161 to shoot a scene. 145 00:06:25,161 --> 00:06:29,411 Presumably the filmmaker, if they don't come in with a style 146 00:06:29,411 --> 00:06:31,181 initially, they're going to have to find 147 00:06:31,181 --> 00:06:35,171 one that suits the piece, that suits the story. 148 00:06:35,171 --> 00:06:37,181 That's-- that's a critical part of it. 149 00:06:37,181 --> 00:06:39,251 And when those questions start to get answered, 150 00:06:39,251 --> 00:06:40,741 then you can start saying, okay, I 151 00:06:40,741 --> 00:06:42,701 need this shot, this shot, and this shot. 152 00:06:46,891 --> 00:06:49,621 Just from my own experience, a good example of a set piece 153 00:06:49,621 --> 00:06:52,921 that was done on a film that was made on a very low budget 154 00:06:52,921 --> 00:06:57,931 is Reese's flashback of the future, of the traumatic future 155 00:06:57,931 --> 00:07:02,671 that he comes from in the first act of "The Terminator." 156 00:07:02,671 --> 00:07:05,101 And I say the first act because Reese hasn't met Sarah yet 157 00:07:05,101 --> 00:07:06,151 and he hasn't met-- 158 00:07:06,151 --> 00:07:07,921 he hasn't met the Terminator yet. 159 00:07:07,921 --> 00:07:10,441 So this is all sort of in the character setup, 160 00:07:10,441 --> 00:07:13,671 and I wanted to see this future soldier in his world, 161 00:07:13,671 --> 00:07:17,761 and I wanted to go into it through his fatigue-induced 162 00:07:17,761 --> 00:07:21,001 dream state and come out of it where he's shocked 163 00:07:21,001 --> 00:07:24,361 and disoriented and back in our present, which is his-- 164 00:07:24,361 --> 00:07:25,561 his past. 165 00:07:25,561 --> 00:07:28,141 I knew it was going to involve visual effects models, 166 00:07:28,141 --> 00:07:30,841 you know, miniatures, miniature explosions, 167 00:07:30,841 --> 00:07:34,411 and some full-sized live action elements 168 00:07:34,411 --> 00:07:37,081 that were done in a-- in a set of some-- some ruins, 169 00:07:37,081 --> 00:07:39,901 some post-nuclear holocaust ruins. 170 00:07:39,901 --> 00:07:42,451 So I thought, I'd a better draw this up. 171 00:07:42,451 --> 00:07:44,551 So I approach it in a very disciplined fashion. 172 00:07:44,551 --> 00:07:50,791 I got my roommate to put on some kind of military uniform. 173 00:07:50,791 --> 00:07:52,381 I went and bought some guns. 174 00:07:52,381 --> 00:07:55,441 We went-- we went out in a field someplace, 175 00:07:55,441 --> 00:07:58,921 and I took pictures of him in all the different poses 176 00:07:58,921 --> 00:07:59,791 that I wanted. 177 00:07:59,791 --> 00:08:02,851 And I also did that for the car chases as well, which I also-- 178 00:08:02,851 --> 00:08:04,051 also storyboarded. 179 00:08:04,051 --> 00:08:06,431 Had him, you know, hanging out the window, 180 00:08:06,431 --> 00:08:08,641 I wanted to be able to see what kind of positions 181 00:08:08,641 --> 00:08:11,611 you could get into with the weapons, what kind of lenses 182 00:08:11,611 --> 00:08:12,451 I wanted to be on. 183 00:08:12,451 --> 00:08:15,331 Did I want to be on telephoto lenses or close lenses? 184 00:08:15,331 --> 00:08:18,781 Wanted to make the guns look big, so shorter-- 185 00:08:18,781 --> 00:08:19,639 shorter lenses. 186 00:08:19,639 --> 00:08:21,931 And start to think, well, how am I going to shoot this? 187 00:08:21,931 --> 00:08:23,491 How can I get the Insert car there? 188 00:08:23,491 --> 00:08:25,081 So I started going through the whole-- 189 00:08:25,081 --> 00:08:26,011 whole exercise. 190 00:08:26,011 --> 00:08:28,891 I got my long-suffering roommate to basically play 191 00:08:28,891 --> 00:08:31,561 every character in the film except for Sarah. 192 00:08:31,561 --> 00:08:33,450 I think he played Sarah a couple times. 193 00:08:33,450 --> 00:08:35,491 And then I brought it all back. 194 00:08:35,491 --> 00:08:37,261 I printed up all the photos. 195 00:08:37,261 --> 00:08:39,271 This is back in the days of photochemistry. 196 00:08:39,271 --> 00:08:41,580 So I had a bunch of prints all over my desk, 197 00:08:41,580 --> 00:08:43,471 and I just started drawing it all up. 198 00:08:43,471 --> 00:08:46,821 1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:03,409 2 00:00:12,621 --> 00:00:16,131 JAMES CAMERON: What we have here is the entire first future war 3 00:00:16,131 --> 00:00:18,893 sequence storyboarded from end to end. 4 00:00:25,301 --> 00:00:28,211 So what I was thinking is, we take the movie 5 00:00:28,211 --> 00:00:31,391 and look for the commonality. 6 00:00:31,391 --> 00:00:34,721 So here in the storyboard, I imagine 7 00:00:34,721 --> 00:00:36,701 that Reese kind of lays his head down 8 00:00:36,701 --> 00:00:42,401 on the side of the car door and goes to sleep, 9 00:00:42,401 --> 00:00:45,161 and then this is a dream, as opposed to what we wound up 10 00:00:45,161 --> 00:00:48,941 doing in the film, which is that he's waiting-- 11 00:00:48,941 --> 00:00:50,471 sitting, waiting in the car. 12 00:00:50,471 --> 00:00:55,871 And he looks over and sees the construction vehicle. 13 00:00:55,871 --> 00:00:59,291 We do this kind of instant transition to the future, 14 00:00:59,291 --> 00:01:01,521 but we don't know we're in the future yet. 15 00:01:01,521 --> 00:01:02,051 But we are. 16 00:01:02,051 --> 00:01:03,071 We're now on a-- 17 00:01:03,071 --> 00:01:04,904 the vehicle that has treads in the future, 18 00:01:04,904 --> 00:01:06,821 it's called a hunter-killer, and we tilt down, 19 00:01:06,821 --> 00:01:08,571 there are a bunch of skulls on the ground. 20 00:01:08,571 --> 00:01:11,171 So clearly we've done some kind of dreamlike transition, 21 00:01:11,171 --> 00:01:13,421 but we haven't seen the moment where he fell asleep. 22 00:01:13,421 --> 00:01:15,551 And we don't even know that that's happening yet. 23 00:01:15,551 --> 00:01:17,631 And now or in the future. 24 00:01:17,631 --> 00:01:22,791 So if you look at-- at the storyboard for that, 25 00:01:22,791 --> 00:01:23,864 it looks like this. 26 00:01:23,864 --> 00:01:25,281 Here's the vehicle with the treads 27 00:01:25,281 --> 00:01:27,501 near the skulls down below. 28 00:01:27,501 --> 00:01:29,811 Here's a fairly abstract shot looking up 29 00:01:29,811 --> 00:01:32,151 at the hunter-killer. 30 00:01:32,151 --> 00:01:35,751 And then if you progress the film, 31 00:01:35,751 --> 00:01:37,371 here's that-- here's that shot. 32 00:01:37,371 --> 00:01:40,941 Now I'm not seeing the spotlight or the searchlight. 33 00:01:40,941 --> 00:01:43,101 And then we see Reese in the ruins. 34 00:01:43,101 --> 00:01:46,901 He's established coming up here. 35 00:01:46,901 --> 00:01:48,671 It wound up being a little bit different, 36 00:01:48,671 --> 00:01:54,981 but, you know, here we establish Reese in his future world. 37 00:01:54,981 --> 00:01:57,951 You don't have to follow the storyboards exactly. 38 00:01:57,951 --> 00:02:03,741 So here's the hunter-killer crushing the skulls, 39 00:02:03,741 --> 00:02:06,321 and here's the hunter-killer crushing the skull. 40 00:02:06,321 --> 00:02:10,401 So there are certain images that survived 41 00:02:10,401 --> 00:02:13,011 through the process and certain ones that were either winnowed 42 00:02:13,011 --> 00:02:15,991 out and we wound up not doing. 43 00:02:15,991 --> 00:02:17,721 For example, the way I imagined it 44 00:02:17,721 --> 00:02:19,521 is that it's all very abstract at first, 45 00:02:19,521 --> 00:02:21,561 and we see Reese introduced by his legs 46 00:02:21,561 --> 00:02:24,951 running as he's getting shot at by this machine, 47 00:02:24,951 --> 00:02:27,861 and we think he's gotten killed, but he's 48 00:02:27,861 --> 00:02:30,591 hiding behind a column. 49 00:02:30,591 --> 00:02:33,299 I wound up not shooting that. 50 00:02:33,299 --> 00:02:35,091 I don't remember exactly why at this point. 51 00:02:35,091 --> 00:02:36,508 Maybe because we didn't have time, 52 00:02:36,508 --> 00:02:38,871 maybe I felt it just wasn't necessary. 53 00:02:38,871 --> 00:02:41,811 But where we get into a similarity to the sequence 54 00:02:41,811 --> 00:02:45,641 again is him taking cover. 55 00:02:45,641 --> 00:02:46,141 Ah. 56 00:02:46,141 --> 00:02:49,951 So here, we introduce this young female resistance fighter, 57 00:02:49,951 --> 00:02:52,281 and then that moment is here. 58 00:02:52,281 --> 00:02:55,461 Now you can see that the camera wound up reversed. 59 00:02:55,461 --> 00:02:59,371 Probably just simply because of the way the set laid out, 60 00:02:59,371 --> 00:02:59,871 you know? 61 00:02:59,871 --> 00:03:01,261 And where the key light was. 62 00:03:01,261 --> 00:03:02,601 And me not having the time-- 63 00:03:02,601 --> 00:03:04,521 and it really didn't matter. 64 00:03:04,521 --> 00:03:06,711 And so Reese signals to her, and this 65 00:03:06,711 --> 00:03:09,921 is him signaling to her here. 66 00:03:09,921 --> 00:03:13,801 And then they run together. 67 00:03:13,801 --> 00:03:17,446 He signals and they run. 68 00:03:17,446 --> 00:03:19,401 But first they crawl, then they run. 69 00:03:19,401 --> 00:03:22,491 So I think the fact the idea of him crawling 70 00:03:22,491 --> 00:03:25,221 through the wreckage is actually indicated 71 00:03:25,221 --> 00:03:27,621 in the next storyboard while we see the-- 72 00:03:27,621 --> 00:03:30,681 the hunter-killer in the background. 73 00:03:30,681 --> 00:03:33,818 So it was all fairly well thought out ahead of time, 74 00:03:33,818 --> 00:03:35,651 but the important thing about storyboards is 75 00:03:35,651 --> 00:03:37,421 they're-- they're not-- 76 00:03:37,421 --> 00:03:39,611 they're not an absolute blueprint, 77 00:03:39,611 --> 00:03:41,831 they're a departure point. 78 00:03:41,831 --> 00:03:47,301 And what you shoot in the moment is what becomes the final film. 79 00:03:47,301 --> 00:03:50,281 So you can see that the idea of seeing the-- seeing 80 00:03:50,281 --> 00:03:54,021 the hunter-killer up through the wreckage as it 81 00:03:54,021 --> 00:03:57,291 towers over them, I believe that-- that concept 82 00:03:57,291 --> 00:03:59,412 was retained. 83 00:03:59,412 --> 00:04:00,831 Ah, there it is. 84 00:04:00,831 --> 00:04:03,081 So maybe-- maybe in the cutting we 85 00:04:03,081 --> 00:04:06,031 decided it was better to put that shot a little bit later, 86 00:04:06,031 --> 00:04:09,381 but you can see, there's a fairly close correlation 87 00:04:09,381 --> 00:04:11,181 between a concept, which is that there's 88 00:04:11,181 --> 00:04:14,781 some post-nuclear holocaust wreckage in the foreground 89 00:04:14,781 --> 00:04:17,600 and this big chrome machine with these lights, 90 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,931 and it's kind of Reese's POV as the little rat running 91 00:04:20,931 --> 00:04:23,811 through the maze and seeing it up above, 92 00:04:23,811 --> 00:04:26,101 and that's more or less what you have right here. 93 00:04:26,101 --> 00:04:31,551 So this was very useful to the miniature unit 94 00:04:31,551 --> 00:04:33,439 when they were trying to build on this. 95 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:35,481 So they knew they had to build a model big enough 96 00:04:35,481 --> 00:04:38,481 that they could put a foreground piece and it would hold focus. 97 00:04:38,481 --> 00:04:40,431 So they wound up building quite tall models. 98 00:04:40,431 --> 00:04:44,421 I think it was almost four feet tall of the hunter-killer. 99 00:04:44,421 --> 00:04:47,301 So they get a lot of information from these. 100 00:04:47,301 --> 00:04:50,361 And then we see Reese take shelter behind something. 101 00:05:04,511 --> 00:05:06,791 Now they're running through open space here. 102 00:05:06,791 --> 00:05:08,601 That's accounted for here. 103 00:05:08,601 --> 00:05:10,011 So we get the same idea. 104 00:05:10,011 --> 00:05:12,641 So again, this is just an idea for a shot. 105 00:05:12,641 --> 00:05:15,461 This is the execution of it, but what's locked in? 106 00:05:15,461 --> 00:05:17,921 The edgy lighting, the spotlights, 107 00:05:17,921 --> 00:05:21,161 the emphasis on the kind of blue night light, 108 00:05:21,161 --> 00:05:22,871 the cold feeling of it. 109 00:05:22,871 --> 00:05:27,041 The bright magnesium-like explosions on the ground. 110 00:05:27,041 --> 00:05:30,011 So those ideas were already embedded in the-- and these are 111 00:05:30,011 --> 00:05:32,321 sort of a combination of storyboards and design 112 00:05:32,321 --> 00:05:34,931 drawings, really, because they're-- they're giving a lot 113 00:05:34,931 --> 00:05:36,481 of information to the model unit. 114 00:06:07,121 --> 00:06:10,721 There's a big shot where they cover a lot of ground, 115 00:06:10,721 --> 00:06:13,611 and they run-- they run across a large area. 116 00:06:13,611 --> 00:06:16,601 So here, you can see little tiny figures running. 117 00:06:16,601 --> 00:06:19,811 Big machine in the background and ruins. 118 00:06:19,811 --> 00:06:28,301 And-- and then they reappear in another plate. 119 00:06:28,301 --> 00:06:31,131 So a plate is a live element. 120 00:06:31,131 --> 00:06:33,131 Sometimes the background element, sometimes it's 121 00:06:33,131 --> 00:06:34,006 a foreground element. 122 00:06:34,006 --> 00:06:36,581 In this case it's a foreground element of our characters. 123 00:06:36,581 --> 00:06:38,653 In this case, there are actually two plates. 124 00:06:38,653 --> 00:06:41,111 There's one over here before they go behind the car and one 125 00:06:41,111 --> 00:06:43,504 over here after they come out from behind the car. 126 00:06:43,504 --> 00:06:44,921 And then there's another big plate 127 00:06:44,921 --> 00:06:48,011 in the background that's of the-- of the miniature, right? 128 00:06:48,011 --> 00:06:51,741 And then some optical lasers are put across the foreground. 129 00:06:51,741 --> 00:06:53,861 And you can see that that concept exists 130 00:06:53,861 --> 00:06:56,171 in the storyboard and it's in the description 131 00:06:56,171 --> 00:06:59,021 of the storyboard here, that that's one plate. 132 00:06:59,021 --> 00:07:02,851 The car is the breakpoint, and that's another plate. 133 00:07:02,851 --> 00:07:05,131 So the other thing that I think it's 134 00:07:05,131 --> 00:07:07,171 important to remember about "The Terminator" 135 00:07:07,171 --> 00:07:11,591 is that it was done at a time when we didn't have CG at all. 136 00:07:11,591 --> 00:07:14,401 So we were using tools like miniatures, 137 00:07:14,401 --> 00:07:17,641 front screen projection, rear screen projection. 138 00:07:17,641 --> 00:07:21,571 So this is a cheap, low-budget, but high epic-- 139 00:07:21,571 --> 00:07:24,541 you know, attempting to be epic on a low budget 140 00:07:24,541 --> 00:07:26,431 and doing it with rear projection. 141 00:07:26,431 --> 00:07:28,861 So literally, this was a rear projection, 142 00:07:28,861 --> 00:07:31,801 this was a rear projection, and that was a rear projection, all 143 00:07:31,801 --> 00:07:33,751 on a big miniature set. 144 00:07:33,751 --> 00:07:35,421 And that's how that was done. 145 00:07:41,001 --> 00:07:43,761 To me, the power of rear screen projection 146 00:07:43,761 --> 00:07:46,641 was that you could hand-hold the camera, 147 00:07:46,641 --> 00:07:49,701 and you could even zoom in or move around 148 00:07:49,701 --> 00:07:51,381 and made it feel very subjective. 149 00:07:51,381 --> 00:07:53,511 It didn't suddenly have to become a lock-off, 150 00:07:53,511 --> 00:07:55,701 because a lot of visual effects suffered from, 151 00:07:55,701 --> 00:07:58,159 all of a sudden you knew you were watching a visual effects 152 00:07:58,159 --> 00:08:00,171 shot because the camera locked off so that they 153 00:08:00,171 --> 00:08:01,611 could composite in things. 154 00:08:01,611 --> 00:08:03,471 It was all very crude. 155 00:08:03,471 --> 00:08:05,511 And nowadays it's not a problem. 156 00:08:05,511 --> 00:08:07,341 You just shoot-- shoot it handheld 157 00:08:07,341 --> 00:08:10,341 if you want a blue screen shot, and you just 158 00:08:10,341 --> 00:08:12,291 make sure you've got your tracking dots around 159 00:08:12,291 --> 00:08:14,751 and then they can extract that camera move 160 00:08:14,751 --> 00:08:17,881 and apply the same camera move to the background. 161 00:08:17,881 --> 00:08:20,119 So you're in a car, and you're supposed 162 00:08:20,119 --> 00:08:21,411 to be driving down the freeway. 163 00:08:21,411 --> 00:08:23,841 There's nothing outside the window but a blue screen. 164 00:08:23,841 --> 00:08:27,149 And the camera operator sitting in the right seat-- well, 165 00:08:27,149 --> 00:08:29,691 I say this in New Zealand here, they'd be sitting in the left 166 00:08:29,691 --> 00:08:30,291 side-- 167 00:08:30,291 --> 00:08:32,518 shooting-- shooting the actor driving. 168 00:08:32,518 --> 00:08:34,101 And the camera's kind of shaky and you 169 00:08:34,101 --> 00:08:37,011 pan over and look out the window and you come back. 170 00:08:37,011 --> 00:08:38,810 And there's nothing there but blue. 171 00:08:38,810 --> 00:08:41,781 But it's relatively easy to add a background 172 00:08:41,781 --> 00:08:44,571 plate of what's outside that-- 173 00:08:44,571 --> 00:08:46,191 outside that window these days. 174 00:08:46,191 --> 00:08:47,571 It's-- it's not a big deal. 175 00:08:53,591 --> 00:08:56,831 I wound up with six months to sketch out 176 00:08:56,831 --> 00:09:00,011 all of the key scenes and to really refine all the designs 177 00:09:00,011 --> 00:09:01,791 and be ready. 178 00:09:01,791 --> 00:09:04,431 And when I got to shoot that film, every second counted. 179 00:09:04,431 --> 00:09:09,681 We had 42 days, and a lot of them were nights. 180 00:09:09,681 --> 00:09:12,201 And even on a guerilla filmmaking schedule, 181 00:09:12,201 --> 00:09:16,461 I'm working 14-hour days, it was a lot of material 182 00:09:16,461 --> 00:09:18,321 to shoot in that amount of time. 183 00:09:18,321 --> 00:09:19,111 But I was ready. 184 00:09:19,111 --> 00:09:19,986 I knew what to shoot. 185 00:09:19,986 --> 00:09:21,631 I knew every shot that I needed. 186 00:09:21,631 --> 00:09:23,901 And I was just a machine. 187 00:09:23,901 --> 00:09:26,511 Just going from shot to shot to shot, you know? 188 00:09:26,511 --> 00:09:29,061 It's critically important to know your film 189 00:09:29,061 --> 00:09:31,011 before you shoot your film. 190 00:09:31,011 --> 00:09:33,631 And everything starts with the art. 191 00:09:33,631 --> 00:09:37,281 Spend a good part of your time just 192 00:09:37,281 --> 00:09:40,911 looking at how things really are with an artist's eye, 193 00:09:40,911 --> 00:09:42,621 like you're going to try to paint it. 194 00:09:42,621 --> 00:09:43,581 Like Vermeer. 195 00:09:43,581 --> 00:09:44,121 You know. 196 00:09:44,121 --> 00:09:46,971 There were thousands of years of painters before Vermeer, 197 00:09:46,971 --> 00:09:49,651 and Vermeer suddenly figured-- he looked at light 198 00:09:49,651 --> 00:09:52,551 the way it came in a window and the way it lit a scene 199 00:09:52,551 --> 00:09:57,261 or lit a figure of a woman standing at a counter. 200 00:09:57,261 --> 00:10:02,041 And all of a sudden he saw what that light did. 201 00:10:02,041 --> 00:10:03,541 How bright the source was, the fact 202 00:10:03,541 --> 00:10:05,208 that you didn't see the source, you just 203 00:10:05,208 --> 00:10:08,191 saw the effect of the source, how it bounced around, 204 00:10:08,191 --> 00:10:10,591 how it lit her, how it lit the wall, how 205 00:10:10,591 --> 00:10:13,021 the bounce from the wall lit her. 206 00:10:13,021 --> 00:10:15,301 And all of a sudden he was able to do something nobody 207 00:10:15,301 --> 00:10:17,941 had ever done before, which is paint light the way 208 00:10:17,941 --> 00:10:19,501 it really worked. 209 00:10:19,501 --> 00:10:22,531 And he just did it with the wetware. 210 00:10:22,531 --> 00:10:25,201 He didn't have any software, he didn't have any computers, 211 00:10:25,201 --> 00:10:26,409 he didn't even have a camera. 212 00:10:26,409 --> 00:10:27,941 It didn't exist yet. 213 00:10:27,941 --> 00:10:30,541 But he saw how light worked. 214 00:10:30,541 --> 00:10:32,011 So, I happened to be an artist. 215 00:10:32,011 --> 00:10:32,911 Great. 216 00:10:32,911 --> 00:10:35,161 A lot of-- some-- some other directors are artists. 217 00:10:35,161 --> 00:10:36,691 Ridley Scott's a good sketch artist, 218 00:10:36,691 --> 00:10:39,001 Guillermo Del Toro is a very accomplished artist. 219 00:10:39,001 --> 00:10:39,541 Great. 220 00:10:39,541 --> 00:10:43,921 If you're not an artist, study art. 221 00:10:43,921 --> 00:10:45,758 Learn to draw on a very rudimentary way, 222 00:10:45,758 --> 00:10:47,341 and I don't care if it's balloon heads 223 00:10:47,341 --> 00:10:49,291 with smiley faces on them. 224 00:10:49,291 --> 00:10:51,691 Learn to draw so that you force yourself 225 00:10:51,691 --> 00:10:54,048 with a pencil and paper to think compositionally. 226 00:10:54,048 --> 00:10:56,131 Do I want the character in the middle of the frame 227 00:10:56,131 --> 00:10:58,131 or do I want them on the left side of the frame, 228 00:10:58,131 --> 00:11:01,351 leaving the rest of the frame open in a cinemascope aspect 229 00:11:01,351 --> 00:11:04,801 ratio like Sergio Leone used to do? 230 00:11:04,801 --> 00:11:06,461 What style am I going to do? 231 00:11:06,461 --> 00:11:08,131 What's my compositional style? 232 00:11:08,131 --> 00:11:09,961 So that you can have that conversation. 233 00:11:09,961 --> 00:11:13,521 First with yourself, then with your director of photography, 234 00:11:13,521 --> 00:11:16,631 and then subsequent to that, in the moment on the set. 235 00:11:16,631 --> 00:11:19,451 I like this, I don't like that, pan more right. 236 00:11:19,451 --> 00:11:21,301 Study art so you understand perspective, 237 00:11:21,301 --> 00:11:23,051 so you understand light, so you understand 238 00:11:23,051 --> 00:11:27,941 these ideas of what's going on in that frame. 239 00:11:27,941 --> 00:11:33,191 Because figurative art, painting has all been about the frame. 240 00:11:33,191 --> 00:11:35,441 What's in and what's not. 241 00:11:35,441 --> 00:11:37,811 And filmmaking is all about what's in the frame 242 00:11:37,811 --> 00:11:42,041 and what isn't in the frame, and what you need in the frame, 243 00:11:42,041 --> 00:11:45,101 and what you can safely exclude from the frame 244 00:11:45,101 --> 00:11:46,389 and get by inference. 245 00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:48,431 You don't have to see the sun to know it's there, 246 00:11:48,431 --> 00:11:49,748 it's coming in the window. 247 00:11:49,748 --> 00:11:50,831 That's an extreme example. 248 00:11:50,831 --> 00:11:52,914 You don't have to see the other characters to know 249 00:11:52,914 --> 00:11:55,606 they're still in the room when you cut to a close-up. 250 00:11:55,606 --> 00:11:57,731 But what's in the frame and why is it in the frame? 251 00:11:57,731 --> 00:12:01,271 And that's a question that I ask myself a hundred times a day 252 00:12:01,271 --> 00:12:03,041 when I'm composing a shot. 253 00:12:03,041 --> 00:12:03,641 To this day. 254 00:12:03,641 --> 00:12:05,741 There's nothing automatic about any of it. 255 00:12:05,741 --> 00:12:08,171 All of those decisions are fresh decisions 256 00:12:08,171 --> 00:12:11,091 and they have to be made every single day. 257 00:12:11,091 --> 00:12:12,661 So study art. 258 00:12:12,661 --> 00:12:14,011 Study photography. 259 00:12:14,011 --> 00:12:15,004 Still photography. 260 00:12:15,004 --> 00:12:16,171 Black and white photography. 261 00:12:16,171 --> 00:12:18,541 Understand light, understand how it works. 262 00:12:18,541 --> 00:12:20,791 Those are great-- those are great basics. 263 00:12:20,791 --> 00:12:24,961 Before you ever pick up a motion camera, study perspective. 264 00:12:24,961 --> 00:12:26,281 Study aerial perspective. 265 00:12:26,281 --> 00:12:28,711 What makes things look far away? 266 00:12:28,711 --> 00:12:33,351 So the most important thing as a filmmaker in general 267 00:12:33,351 --> 00:12:35,661 is your power of observation. 268 00:12:35,661 --> 00:12:40,071 What you learn about people by observing them. 269 00:12:40,071 --> 00:12:42,681 And participating with them. 270 00:12:42,681 --> 00:12:45,891 But there's a part of your mind that's always observing. 271 00:12:45,891 --> 00:12:48,141 Even interactions where you're directly involved, even 272 00:12:48,141 --> 00:12:50,211 in a heated argument or in a torrid love affair 273 00:12:50,211 --> 00:12:53,031 or whatever it is, there's a part of your mind 274 00:12:53,031 --> 00:12:56,931 that's a video camera that's recording and making notes. 275 00:12:56,931 --> 00:12:59,661 Because ultimately you're going to have to create something 276 00:12:59,661 --> 00:13:01,761 in a highly artificial environment surrounded 277 00:13:01,761 --> 00:13:04,581 by lights and people like we are right now, 278 00:13:04,581 --> 00:13:06,261 looking through cameras, and you're 279 00:13:06,261 --> 00:13:09,201 going to have to create a bit of reality that 280 00:13:09,201 --> 00:13:11,631 is credible to an audience. 281 00:13:11,631 --> 00:13:14,021 And it's especially true in visual effects. 282 00:13:14,021 --> 00:13:15,761 You have to understand how light works. 283 00:13:15,761 --> 00:13:17,951 You have to understand what things really look like. 284 00:13:17,951 --> 00:13:20,651 Now that's if you're trying to make a realistic visual effect. 285 00:13:20,651 --> 00:13:22,751 Some-- some people aren't interested in reality, 286 00:13:22,751 --> 00:13:24,311 they might be going for some-- 287 00:13:24,311 --> 00:13:27,341 some kind of heightened or stylized look, or maybe 288 00:13:27,341 --> 00:13:29,291 it's a Pixar animated film and the characters 289 00:13:29,291 --> 00:13:31,751 don't really exist and everything is kind of 290 00:13:31,751 --> 00:13:33,131 heightened or stylized. 291 00:13:33,131 --> 00:13:38,571 That's great, but know the rules before you break the rules. 292 00:13:38,571 --> 00:13:40,661 And these days with-- 293 00:13:40,661 --> 00:13:43,421 with visual effects, with the quality 294 00:13:43,421 --> 00:13:46,271 that's available right now, there's 295 00:13:46,271 --> 00:13:48,701 nothing that can't look 100% real. 296 00:13:48,701 --> 00:13:50,201 It's not-- it's not about the tools, 297 00:13:50,201 --> 00:13:52,401 and not about how expensive the tools are. 298 00:13:52,401 --> 00:13:55,121 It's about how good the power of observation 299 00:13:55,121 --> 00:13:58,091 is of the people manipulating the tools. 300 00:13:58,091 --> 00:14:01,091 And obviously that buck finally stops 301 00:14:01,091 --> 00:14:04,791 on the desk of the director, because the director's 302 00:14:04,791 --> 00:14:06,571 got to approve the shot or not. 303 00:14:06,571 --> 00:14:09,981 And it's going to cost you a ton of money if you literally 304 00:14:09,981 --> 00:14:12,411 say,it doesn't look real, try it again. 305 00:14:12,411 --> 00:14:15,651 And any filmmaker should feel comfortable 306 00:14:15,651 --> 00:14:17,351 being able to do that. 307 00:14:17,351 --> 00:14:18,531 And then you have control. 308 00:14:18,531 --> 00:14:19,311 It's safer. 309 00:14:19,311 --> 00:14:21,991 You can control the lighting. 310 00:14:21,991 --> 00:14:24,231 It can always be exactly the right time of day 311 00:14:24,231 --> 00:14:26,601 with the sun in exactly the right position. 312 00:14:26,601 --> 00:14:29,031 But you have to be very-- you have to be 313 00:14:29,031 --> 00:14:30,811 observant of the natural world. 314 00:14:30,811 --> 00:14:32,661 The key to visual effects, I believe, 315 00:14:32,661 --> 00:14:38,279 the one great fundamental is observe reality carefully. 316 00:14:42,671 --> 00:14:45,941 If you don't effects but you want to do an effects film 317 00:14:45,941 --> 00:14:47,891 and you want to do it on a low budget, 318 00:14:47,891 --> 00:14:52,211 get really chummy with some aspiring visual effects 319 00:14:52,211 --> 00:14:54,551 people that have been noodling around with this stuff, 320 00:14:54,551 --> 00:14:55,721 maybe doing it-- 321 00:14:55,721 --> 00:14:59,501 maybe doing it at a boutique effects house 322 00:14:59,501 --> 00:15:03,161 where they've actually been hands-on and done shots, 323 00:15:03,161 --> 00:15:06,521 maybe working on their own with apps 324 00:15:06,521 --> 00:15:08,021 like After Effects and things like 325 00:15:08,021 --> 00:15:11,231 that where you can do relatively simple composites. 326 00:15:11,231 --> 00:15:14,861 Tracking-- tracking software is readily available 327 00:15:14,861 --> 00:15:16,811 now so that you can track images. 328 00:15:16,811 --> 00:15:18,581 You can do composite work. 329 00:15:18,581 --> 00:15:23,661 You could even set up your own facility if you wanted to. 330 00:15:23,661 --> 00:15:26,591 You could probably put five or six seats 331 00:15:26,591 --> 00:15:29,771 in of Maya and Nuke and things like that 332 00:15:29,771 --> 00:15:32,621 and just be able to do basics. 333 00:15:32,621 --> 00:15:34,481 So you've got a network. 334 00:15:34,481 --> 00:15:36,911 You've got to have like-minded colleagues. 335 00:15:36,911 --> 00:15:42,544 You have to build your little revolutionary army. 336 00:15:42,544 --> 00:15:43,961 You don't just spend all your time 337 00:15:43,961 --> 00:15:45,881 knocking on doors trying to have lunch with people that 338 00:15:45,881 --> 00:15:47,171 are way above you in the food chain, 339 00:15:47,171 --> 00:15:48,401 you're wasting your time. 340 00:15:48,401 --> 00:15:50,021 You've got to work at a peer level. 341 00:15:50,021 --> 00:15:54,101 There's no sort of inside knowledge that so-- 342 00:15:54,101 --> 00:15:55,751 that's a magic bullet that's going 343 00:15:55,751 --> 00:15:58,931 to leap you up three levels in the film industry. 344 00:15:58,931 --> 00:16:01,361 You have to work your way up through those levels 345 00:16:01,361 --> 00:16:03,711 and you have to do it by learning the craft. 346 00:16:03,711 --> 00:16:05,411 So it's a chicken and egg problem. 347 00:16:05,411 --> 00:16:06,869 Who's going to give you the budget? 348 00:16:06,869 --> 00:16:07,901 Well, probably nobody. 349 00:16:07,901 --> 00:16:09,881 So you have to figure out how to do it 350 00:16:09,881 --> 00:16:12,731 for basically almost nothing and build 351 00:16:12,731 --> 00:16:16,811 the skill set that is scalable once you do get a little money. 352 00:16:16,811 --> 00:16:18,081 You've already done it. 353 00:16:18,081 --> 00:16:19,871 You've already done examples of it. 354 00:16:19,871 --> 00:16:22,931 I'd already done, working for someone else, 355 00:16:22,931 --> 00:16:25,391 working for Roger Corman on super low-budget science 356 00:16:25,391 --> 00:16:29,951 fiction films, I'd done examples of all the types of shots 357 00:16:29,951 --> 00:16:32,051 that I had in mind for "Terminator." 358 00:16:32,051 --> 00:16:35,081 So I was taking what I knew, I was meticulously 359 00:16:35,081 --> 00:16:36,701 planning how it was going to be done, 360 00:16:36,701 --> 00:16:39,701 and-- and what that allowed the-- the-- the effects 361 00:16:39,701 --> 00:16:45,041 people to do was to budget very close to the bone. 362 00:16:45,041 --> 00:16:47,301 Because normally, visual effects budgets, 363 00:16:47,301 --> 00:16:49,301 they have to pad them up because they don't know 364 00:16:49,301 --> 00:16:51,131 what the director really wants. 365 00:16:51,131 --> 00:16:55,511 And that lack of precision translates to additional costs, 366 00:16:55,511 --> 00:16:56,441 like a lot. 367 00:16:56,441 --> 00:16:58,071 They'll put in a big fudge factor. 368 00:16:58,071 --> 00:17:01,511 It might be 30%, it might be 40%, because they don't know. 369 00:17:01,511 --> 00:17:04,984 But here, they could literally budget almost to the dollar 370 00:17:04,984 --> 00:17:06,401 how much it was going to cost them 371 00:17:06,401 --> 00:17:09,370 to do these shots because I had been so precise in my-- 372 00:17:09,370 --> 00:17:10,090 my previs. 373 00:17:10,090 --> 00:17:12,461 And that's what allowed us to do the film for basically 374 00:17:12,461 --> 00:17:14,081 $4 million below the line. 375 00:17:16,701 --> 00:17:19,901 So I felt I was presenting a package 376 00:17:19,901 --> 00:17:22,901 to a low-budget producer that was actually 377 00:17:22,901 --> 00:17:24,161 attractive and made sense. 378 00:17:24,161 --> 00:17:27,401 There was logic behind every decision that was made. 379 00:17:27,401 --> 00:17:30,521 There was logic to shoot the vast majority of the film 380 00:17:30,521 --> 00:17:32,801 on the streets of LA with available light, 381 00:17:32,801 --> 00:17:37,061 and to only dip our toe into the exotic environment that 382 00:17:37,061 --> 00:17:39,611 required the visual effects sparingly. 383 00:17:39,611 --> 00:17:40,811 Pick our battles. 384 00:17:40,811 --> 00:17:42,521 1 00:00:03,437 --> 00:00:06,365 2 00:00:16,150 --> 00:00:21,671 It's absolutely critical in any film to have a character 3 00:00:21,671 --> 00:00:23,771 that you're willing to go on the journey with. 4 00:00:23,771 --> 00:00:27,261 And people use the term a fully-realized character. 5 00:00:27,261 --> 00:00:29,561 But I think it's important to understand that film 6 00:00:29,561 --> 00:00:32,210 is a very stylized art form. 7 00:00:32,210 --> 00:00:38,021 It it's not capable of the kind of novelistic detail of a 600 8 00:00:38,021 --> 00:00:39,684 or 1,000-page novel. 9 00:00:39,684 --> 00:00:41,351 So you're never going to know everything 10 00:00:41,351 --> 00:00:42,226 about that character. 11 00:00:42,226 --> 00:00:44,969 You have to fill in the blanks with bits 12 00:00:44,969 --> 00:00:47,261 and pieces of your own life, and those of your friends, 13 00:00:47,261 --> 00:00:47,931 and so on. 14 00:00:47,931 --> 00:00:50,111 So how do you do all that? 15 00:00:50,111 --> 00:00:52,601 Well, you have to find little, universal things 16 00:00:52,601 --> 00:00:56,681 that you can relate to from one's life, 17 00:00:56,681 --> 00:01:00,671 as an audience member, and have the character do 18 00:01:00,671 --> 00:01:04,421 something or do things that you recognize. 19 00:01:04,421 --> 00:01:06,461 You can set huge challenges for yourself 20 00:01:06,461 --> 00:01:07,871 if it's a nonverbal character. 21 00:01:07,871 --> 00:01:10,151 And you're putting so much on the actor 22 00:01:10,151 --> 00:01:12,161 to express with their eyes, with their face, 23 00:01:12,161 --> 00:01:16,761 with their yearning expression, or whatever it is. 24 00:01:16,761 --> 00:01:20,441 But every character is a creation that exists between 25 00:01:20,441 --> 00:01:23,561 the screenplay-- the imagined character-- 26 00:01:23,561 --> 00:01:28,901 which is still out of focus, we don't apply a face yet, 27 00:01:28,901 --> 00:01:31,421 and then the director's imagination of what 28 00:01:31,421 --> 00:01:34,331 that can be on the screen. 29 00:01:34,331 --> 00:01:39,191 And then the actor fills in the final and, ultimately, the most 30 00:01:39,191 --> 00:01:42,221 important piece, what does this person look like? 31 00:01:42,221 --> 00:01:43,181 How do they move? 32 00:01:43,181 --> 00:01:44,321 How do they speak? 33 00:01:44,321 --> 00:01:49,841 So a character is really never more than a sketch. 34 00:01:49,841 --> 00:01:51,896 But it has to be a very compelling sketch. 35 00:01:58,421 --> 00:02:02,351 Giving an average person, a relatable, average person, 36 00:02:02,351 --> 00:02:04,961 an enormous problem and seeing how 37 00:02:04,961 --> 00:02:08,081 they solve that problem or process that problem 38 00:02:08,081 --> 00:02:10,821 is a good way to get buy-in. 39 00:02:10,821 --> 00:02:14,411 You basically want the audience to buy into the narrative. 40 00:02:14,411 --> 00:02:16,631 And they usually buy into the narrative 41 00:02:16,631 --> 00:02:17,921 through the characters. 42 00:02:17,921 --> 00:02:20,231 It's key in the way that you introduce a character 43 00:02:20,231 --> 00:02:24,011 to understand where they are in their life, what they're 44 00:02:24,011 --> 00:02:26,741 feeling, and what their problem is. 45 00:02:26,741 --> 00:02:30,221 Any character that you're going to follow has got a problem. 46 00:02:30,221 --> 00:02:34,421 And that problem needs to be declared fairly early on. 47 00:02:34,421 --> 00:02:37,561 Sometimes you can do it in the very first scene. 48 00:02:37,561 --> 00:02:40,561 And then the whole movie should ultimately be about somehow 49 00:02:40,561 --> 00:02:43,688 that problem gets addressed, gets resolved, or at least 50 00:02:43,688 --> 00:02:45,271 we understand that it's the thing that 51 00:02:45,271 --> 00:02:50,101 drove that character into whatever situation evolves. 52 00:02:50,101 --> 00:02:53,251 And the problem may escalate as well. 53 00:02:53,251 --> 00:02:56,651 But I do believe in the kind of principle of character 54 00:02:56,651 --> 00:02:57,521 is destiny. 55 00:02:57,521 --> 00:03:01,931 That character winds up in a situation of their own creation 56 00:03:01,931 --> 00:03:03,591 in some way. 57 00:03:03,591 --> 00:03:07,498 And it's somehow related to them solving their problem, 58 00:03:07,498 --> 00:03:08,831 whatever their problem might be. 59 00:03:08,831 --> 00:03:12,011 It might be that nobody sees them, 60 00:03:12,011 --> 00:03:14,711 that they're kind of invisible to the people around them, 61 00:03:14,711 --> 00:03:16,361 that they haven't found who they are 62 00:03:16,361 --> 00:03:17,951 yet or a way of expressing it. 63 00:03:17,951 --> 00:03:21,911 It may be that they don't have love, or that they've lost love 64 00:03:21,911 --> 00:03:25,044 and are now incapable of opening themselves 65 00:03:25,044 --> 00:03:25,961 to a new relationship. 66 00:03:25,961 --> 00:03:27,881 Whatever the character's problem is, 67 00:03:27,881 --> 00:03:29,711 you need to define it early on. 68 00:03:29,711 --> 00:03:33,191 And you need to do it in an interesting way where 69 00:03:33,191 --> 00:03:35,531 the audience can sympathize because we 70 00:03:35,531 --> 00:03:39,701 have this capacity for empathy and for understanding 71 00:03:39,701 --> 00:03:40,931 other people. 72 00:03:40,931 --> 00:03:43,911 It's innate to who we are as human beings. 73 00:03:43,911 --> 00:03:45,161 So you introduce a character. 74 00:03:45,161 --> 00:03:48,461 And then we somehow relate to that character. 75 00:03:48,461 --> 00:03:51,311 Even if that character is Frankenstein's monster 76 00:03:51,311 --> 00:03:55,721 and the story is told from the perspective of the monster, 77 00:03:55,721 --> 00:03:59,861 we must somehow find a way, a sense of empathy. 78 00:03:59,861 --> 00:04:04,271 The film must create that in us, an interest in that character. 79 00:04:04,271 --> 00:04:07,331 I think it's about expressing something 80 00:04:07,331 --> 00:04:11,771 that the audience can relate to and you care about the outcome. 81 00:04:11,771 --> 00:04:15,041 Or at the very least, you care about seeing 82 00:04:15,041 --> 00:04:18,071 what this person is going to do next 83 00:04:18,071 --> 00:04:21,610 and what they're what's around the corner for them. 84 00:04:21,610 --> 00:04:24,911 In the case of "The Terminator," the initial idea 85 00:04:24,911 --> 00:04:30,581 was that there was an entity sent from the future 86 00:04:30,581 --> 00:04:35,231 to kill somebody in the past whose life had great meaning. 87 00:04:35,231 --> 00:04:39,911 I pretty quickly went to a female character 88 00:04:39,911 --> 00:04:44,051 whose son, in the future, will become a great sort of prophet, 89 00:04:44,051 --> 00:04:47,141 so basically a kind of Virgin Mary character, 90 00:04:47,141 --> 00:04:51,341 because that's an archetype that we all get quite quickly. 91 00:04:51,341 --> 00:04:58,241 And she was, in the biblical story, of very humble origins, 92 00:04:58,241 --> 00:05:00,161 basically a kind of a peasant. 93 00:05:00,161 --> 00:05:03,461 Her husband was a tradesman, a carpenter. 94 00:05:03,461 --> 00:05:07,361 So I said, all right, a waitress, a very common job, 95 00:05:07,361 --> 00:05:08,621 a very dismissible person. 96 00:05:08,621 --> 00:05:13,299 I wanted the most dismissable person you could imagine. 97 00:05:13,299 --> 00:05:14,591 It could have been a secretary. 98 00:05:14,591 --> 00:05:16,511 It could have been a waitress, somebody like that. 99 00:05:16,511 --> 00:05:17,928 It like, they couldn't possibly be 100 00:05:17,928 --> 00:05:22,181 an important, earth-shaking existence. 101 00:05:22,181 --> 00:05:25,611 And I thought that's good because that's 102 00:05:25,611 --> 00:05:26,781 how most people feel. 103 00:05:26,781 --> 00:05:28,281 Most people going to a movie theater 104 00:05:28,281 --> 00:05:32,331 are not presidents, or heads of major corporations, 105 00:05:32,331 --> 00:05:34,911 or big, important people. 106 00:05:34,911 --> 00:05:36,171 They're average people. 107 00:05:36,171 --> 00:05:39,681 And they could, I thought, invest 108 00:05:39,681 --> 00:05:44,181 in the idea of an average person who is suddenly snatched out 109 00:05:44,181 --> 00:05:46,071 of their daily existence and finds out 110 00:05:46,071 --> 00:05:50,031 that their life has great meaning in another framework, 111 00:05:50,031 --> 00:05:54,081 in another frame of reference, which the film supplies. 112 00:05:54,081 --> 00:05:57,321 And all of a sudden, not only is she fighting for her life, 113 00:05:57,321 --> 00:06:00,591 but she's fighting for the future of the entire world. 114 00:06:00,591 --> 00:06:02,451 She becomes the most important person 115 00:06:02,451 --> 00:06:05,761 in the world for a moment in history. 116 00:06:05,761 --> 00:06:10,411 So now I'm telling the story from a female perspective. 117 00:06:10,411 --> 00:06:14,331 So now I have to draw upon all the women 118 00:06:14,331 --> 00:06:18,131 that I've ever known in my life and/or read 119 00:06:18,131 --> 00:06:22,571 about in anything from comic books, to novels, to the news. 120 00:06:22,571 --> 00:06:27,521 Now, it just so happens that just before I wrote that, 121 00:06:27,521 --> 00:06:30,851 I was married to a Bob's Big Boy waitress. 122 00:06:30,851 --> 00:06:33,191 So I went, Bob's Big Boy waitress, perfect. 123 00:06:33,191 --> 00:06:34,541 Write what you know. 124 00:06:34,541 --> 00:06:40,841 So I basically wrote my first wife, which was plucky, 125 00:06:40,841 --> 00:06:45,491 a lot of humor, kind of cynical, but likable. 126 00:06:45,491 --> 00:06:48,251 And so, boom, there's your character. 127 00:06:48,251 --> 00:06:51,591 Now put that character in an extraordinary circumstance. 128 00:06:51,591 --> 00:06:53,831 And I think what I would advise is 129 00:06:53,831 --> 00:06:58,551 that people be kind of authentic to their own life experience, 130 00:06:58,551 --> 00:07:01,751 but not to the extent that you're literally just telling 131 00:07:01,751 --> 00:07:02,981 your own life story. 132 00:07:02,981 --> 00:07:05,951 I happen to enjoy writing female characters. 133 00:07:05,951 --> 00:07:07,151 That's controversial now. 134 00:07:07,151 --> 00:07:08,651 There are people that say, oh, well, 135 00:07:08,651 --> 00:07:12,011 female characters and films about female characters 136 00:07:12,011 --> 00:07:13,511 should be directed by women and they 137 00:07:13,511 --> 00:07:14,636 should be written by women. 138 00:07:14,636 --> 00:07:18,401 It's like, okay, so I can only write 139 00:07:18,401 --> 00:07:21,341 paunchy, middle-aged Canadian white guys? 140 00:07:21,341 --> 00:07:23,171 I don't think that's how art works. 141 00:07:23,171 --> 00:07:25,691 The whole point of acting, the whole point of storytelling, 142 00:07:25,691 --> 00:07:27,941 I think, is to live outside yourself. 143 00:07:27,941 --> 00:07:31,961 But you have to do it with some connection 144 00:07:31,961 --> 00:07:34,571 to your own personal experience. 145 00:07:34,571 --> 00:07:35,801 You have to make it personal. 146 00:07:35,801 --> 00:07:38,081 But that shouldn't prevent you from writing a character that 147 00:07:38,081 --> 00:07:38,921 is not like you. 148 00:07:43,301 --> 00:07:47,681 How am I going to introduce my main characters? 149 00:07:47,681 --> 00:07:49,661 And how am I going to do that in a way that 150 00:07:49,661 --> 00:07:54,269 is the quintessence of that character? 151 00:07:54,269 --> 00:07:56,061 What is the quintessence of that character? 152 00:07:56,061 --> 00:08:00,981 And how can I encapsulate that in a kind 153 00:08:00,981 --> 00:08:02,961 of almost a synecdoche. 154 00:08:02,961 --> 00:08:06,531 A synecdoche is-- if I get this right-- 155 00:08:06,531 --> 00:08:09,141 it's like if you call somebody a suit. 156 00:08:09,141 --> 00:08:12,381 You're using the suit as a stand-in 157 00:08:12,381 --> 00:08:14,331 for an entire description of them 158 00:08:14,331 --> 00:08:16,671 as a corporate executive or whatever. 159 00:08:16,671 --> 00:08:18,681 It's basically taking a person or reducing them 160 00:08:18,681 --> 00:08:21,561 to a single object or principle. 161 00:08:21,561 --> 00:08:26,271 But you want a kind of creative synecdoche of your character 162 00:08:26,271 --> 00:08:30,051 when that character's introduced. 163 00:08:30,051 --> 00:08:33,861 So I think that there are interesting ways to do that. 164 00:08:33,861 --> 00:08:37,171 Colonel Quaritch in "Avatar," he was a military guy. 165 00:08:37,171 --> 00:08:38,091 He was very formal. 166 00:08:38,091 --> 00:08:41,180 And he was in a position of command and authority. 167 00:08:41,180 --> 00:08:44,721 And he was introduced with the image of his military boots 168 00:08:44,721 --> 00:08:45,981 on a steel floor. 169 00:08:45,981 --> 00:08:47,541 We hear the creak of the leather. 170 00:08:47,541 --> 00:08:49,181 We hear his voice. 171 00:08:49,181 --> 00:08:51,681 He was a very verbal character and he carried a lot of power 172 00:08:51,681 --> 00:08:52,401 in his voice. 173 00:08:52,401 --> 00:08:53,751 We see his pistol. 174 00:08:53,751 --> 00:08:55,281 We see his broad shoulders. 175 00:08:55,281 --> 00:08:58,731 We see the back of his tightly-clipped Marine Corps 176 00:08:58,731 --> 00:08:59,631 haircut. 177 00:08:59,631 --> 00:09:02,151 And we think we know who the guy is. 178 00:09:02,151 --> 00:09:05,511 And then he turns to us and he's got these massive scars. 179 00:09:05,511 --> 00:09:07,671 And he delivers a line on that turn. 180 00:09:07,671 --> 00:09:11,181 Wants to kill you and eat your eyes for jujubes. 181 00:09:11,181 --> 00:09:14,241 I was reasonably pleased with that as a as a character 182 00:09:14,241 --> 00:09:16,371 introduction because, once again, he 183 00:09:16,371 --> 00:09:21,811 was reduced to that synecdoche of his greater character. 184 00:09:21,811 --> 00:09:27,231 He was also a character that didn't exist in shades of gray, 185 00:09:27,231 --> 00:09:30,921 kind of to a fault. He was, what you see is what you get. 186 00:09:30,921 --> 00:09:34,011 And there wasn't a lot of nuance to his character. 187 00:09:34,011 --> 00:09:37,611 There was just a lot of flourish in creating 188 00:09:37,611 --> 00:09:40,371 that relatively simplistic character, which 189 00:09:40,371 --> 00:09:41,931 is another way to go. 190 00:09:41,931 --> 00:09:43,576 I use the Darth Vader example. 191 00:09:43,576 --> 00:09:45,201 Darth Vader didn't have a lot of shades 192 00:09:45,201 --> 00:09:47,511 of gray in the first movie. 193 00:09:47,511 --> 00:09:49,731 But there was some subtlety that was 194 00:09:49,731 --> 00:09:52,131 brought into it later, obviously, which 195 00:09:52,131 --> 00:09:53,271 was interesting then. 196 00:09:53,271 --> 00:09:55,911 But he was kind of archetypal. 197 00:09:55,911 --> 00:09:57,651 And that was okay because it was just 198 00:09:57,651 --> 00:10:01,251 do the archetype really, really well and in a new creative way. 199 00:10:07,511 --> 00:10:09,911 You also look forward to the moment 200 00:10:09,911 --> 00:10:12,701 where that main character meets that main character. 201 00:10:12,701 --> 00:10:16,311 So that moment of introduction is also very important. 202 00:10:16,311 --> 00:10:18,401 So when you went to Titanic, and you probably 203 00:10:18,401 --> 00:10:20,996 knew from the poster, at least, that there 204 00:10:20,996 --> 00:10:22,871 was going to be a girl and going to be a guy. 205 00:10:22,871 --> 00:10:25,246 And if you knew more about the film, that there was Rose, 206 00:10:25,246 --> 00:10:27,971 and there was Jack, and Leonardo, and Kate Winslet. 207 00:10:27,971 --> 00:10:29,381 Well, how are they going to meet? 208 00:10:29,381 --> 00:10:31,421 Are they going to meet cute? 209 00:10:31,421 --> 00:10:35,734 Which is the sort of classic screenwriter term for, 210 00:10:35,734 --> 00:10:37,901 do they get in a car crash, and have a big argument, 211 00:10:37,901 --> 00:10:39,859 and then realize they actually like each other? 212 00:10:39,859 --> 00:10:42,251 And there are infinite number of variations of that. 213 00:10:42,251 --> 00:10:45,341 And people generally look forward to that moment 214 00:10:45,341 --> 00:10:47,381 when the characters collide. 215 00:10:47,381 --> 00:10:49,931 In "Terminator" it was interesting, structurally, 216 00:10:49,931 --> 00:10:53,291 because it was the end of act one 217 00:10:53,291 --> 00:10:55,601 was the three main characters meeting. 218 00:10:55,601 --> 00:10:58,691 And they met in a violent life-or-death confrontation. 219 00:10:58,691 --> 00:11:01,481 But we had been following them as individual story streams 220 00:11:01,481 --> 00:11:04,361 for an entire act, and literally just jumping back and forth 221 00:11:04,361 --> 00:11:07,781 between three plot lines, and watching these plot lines 222 00:11:07,781 --> 00:11:12,341 slowly converging to a point in space and time 223 00:11:12,341 --> 00:11:14,423 where everything exploded. 224 00:11:14,423 --> 00:11:17,249 [SHOTGUN BLASTING] 225 00:11:20,081 --> 00:11:25,391 And that turned out to be a powerful storytelling method. 226 00:11:25,391 --> 00:11:27,401 There's a stylistic cinematic relish 227 00:11:27,401 --> 00:11:30,821 in how you introduce Character A and Character B. 228 00:11:30,821 --> 00:11:33,611 And then you look forward to the inevitable moment 229 00:11:33,611 --> 00:11:36,101 where Character A meets Character B, interacts 230 00:11:36,101 --> 00:11:40,411 with Character B. And then you, I think, as a filmmaker, 231 00:11:40,411 --> 00:11:42,161 as a screenwriter, you have fun with that. 232 00:11:42,161 --> 00:11:44,631 And as actors, you have fun with that. 233 00:11:44,631 --> 00:11:47,681 And typically, where the characters are going to wind up 234 00:11:47,681 --> 00:11:50,351 is not where they are initially. 235 00:11:50,351 --> 00:11:53,701 There's the classic sort of, you get two characters together 236 00:11:53,701 --> 00:11:57,521 that you know are going to be together later 237 00:11:57,521 --> 00:11:59,171 and you create conflict. 238 00:11:59,171 --> 00:12:01,241 And there's an art to that because the audience 239 00:12:01,241 --> 00:12:08,871 can smell that a mile away if that conflict feels forced, 240 00:12:08,871 --> 00:12:11,271 like the screenwriter really needed them to fight. 241 00:12:11,271 --> 00:12:12,938 So put a lot of obstacles in their path. 242 00:12:12,938 --> 00:12:14,563 And if it doesn't feel authentic and it 243 00:12:14,563 --> 00:12:16,191 doesn't feel natural to the situation, 244 00:12:16,191 --> 00:12:18,771 it feels overblown, the audience goes, yeah, predictable, 245 00:12:18,771 --> 00:12:19,281 I knew that. 246 00:12:25,721 --> 00:12:28,286 If you're doing a character from a certain period, 247 00:12:28,286 --> 00:12:31,841 a historical period or a certain specific situation 248 00:12:31,841 --> 00:12:35,951 that you're dramatizing, do your research. 249 00:12:35,951 --> 00:12:39,086 Learn everything you can about that world. 250 00:12:39,086 --> 00:12:40,961 And if it was a real person, learn everything 251 00:12:40,961 --> 00:12:42,691 you can about that person. 252 00:12:42,691 --> 00:12:45,851 Ask yourself what was really going on. 253 00:12:45,851 --> 00:12:48,671 Because we can't even get the facts right 254 00:12:48,671 --> 00:12:53,761 in a news story about something that happened the day before. 255 00:12:53,761 --> 00:12:57,601 And different outlets will argue with each other 256 00:12:57,601 --> 00:13:00,451 over what actually happened and what it means. 257 00:13:00,451 --> 00:13:04,081 Now imagine history as a distillation 258 00:13:04,081 --> 00:13:08,581 of a little bit of coming down to us of, basically, a bunch 259 00:13:08,581 --> 00:13:10,621 of news stories from back then. 260 00:13:10,621 --> 00:13:12,181 How much can we trust that? 261 00:13:12,181 --> 00:13:17,101 So as you go into history-- and I found this on "Titanic"-- 262 00:13:17,101 --> 00:13:19,288 you have to ask yourself questions about like, 263 00:13:19,288 --> 00:13:20,371 what was really happening? 264 00:13:20,371 --> 00:13:22,211 Who was really doing what to who here? 265 00:13:22,211 --> 00:13:23,611 So you got to do your research. 266 00:13:23,611 --> 00:13:25,111 You got to understand the character, 267 00:13:25,111 --> 00:13:28,171 if it was a real historical person, really understand them. 268 00:13:28,171 --> 00:13:32,311 If it's a made-up person in a real historical setting, 269 00:13:32,311 --> 00:13:36,311 what would the forces be at work on that character? 270 00:13:36,311 --> 00:13:38,821 What would expectations of them be? 271 00:13:38,821 --> 00:13:41,461 How is this character unique? 272 00:13:41,461 --> 00:13:44,551 What makes this character interesting? 273 00:13:44,551 --> 00:13:46,771 It's relatively easy, in a sense, 274 00:13:46,771 --> 00:13:52,591 to write outstanding women outside of the present time 275 00:13:52,591 --> 00:13:58,771 because they were always misunderstood and dismissed. 276 00:13:58,771 --> 00:14:01,526 And audiences hate it when they're 277 00:14:01,526 --> 00:14:03,901 investing in a character and that character is dismissed, 278 00:14:03,901 --> 00:14:07,861 or misunderstood, or judged harshly, or not 279 00:14:07,861 --> 00:14:10,291 seen for how great they are. 280 00:14:10,291 --> 00:14:14,761 So these are all techniques for getting your character 281 00:14:14,761 --> 00:14:16,261 to be interesting. 282 00:14:22,821 --> 00:14:25,911 Ultimately, what's important is that your characters 283 00:14:25,911 --> 00:14:28,601 come to life in your mind. 284 00:14:28,601 --> 00:14:31,451 And then they're going to come to life again when 285 00:14:31,451 --> 00:14:32,711 you cast the film. 286 00:14:32,711 --> 00:14:34,391 How you imagine that character is 287 00:14:34,391 --> 00:14:38,061 going to find its final expression through a living, 288 00:14:38,061 --> 00:14:42,671 breathing human being who has a look, has a physiognomy, 289 00:14:42,671 --> 00:14:44,291 and has a skill set. 290 00:14:44,291 --> 00:14:48,761 And they are going to change that character. 291 00:14:48,761 --> 00:14:54,851 The key to it is to get the actor to a safe place 292 00:14:54,851 --> 00:15:00,491 where they can explore and they can feel empowered to go 293 00:15:00,491 --> 00:15:02,951 as far as they feel like going. 294 00:15:02,951 --> 00:15:04,451 Maybe later in the cutting room, you 295 00:15:04,451 --> 00:15:06,118 say that might be a little bit too much. 296 00:15:06,118 --> 00:15:10,061 Or maybe on the set, your own instinct kicks in 297 00:15:10,061 --> 00:15:15,911 and you say, you know, maybe let's try muting that. 298 00:15:15,911 --> 00:15:21,228 And let me feel that that crazy energy is going on in your mind 299 00:15:21,228 --> 00:15:22,811 but there's something holding you back 300 00:15:22,811 --> 00:15:25,101 from saying it quite that way. 301 00:15:25,101 --> 00:15:27,971 And let's feel that tension. 302 00:15:27,971 --> 00:15:30,101 I mean, after a while I think one 303 00:15:30,101 --> 00:15:34,391 learns to speak a language that actors can hear. 304 00:15:34,391 --> 00:15:36,641 Because I think the most sacred part of the job, 305 00:15:36,641 --> 00:15:43,141 ultimately, is to help the actor achieve their best work. 306 00:15:43,141 --> 00:15:48,641 I like to have done rehearsal so that we can talk through ideas, 307 00:15:48,641 --> 00:15:50,741 not lock them in, but stand them up. 308 00:15:50,741 --> 00:15:51,721 Try it, workshop. 309 00:15:51,721 --> 00:15:55,901 But I think of it more as sort of work-shopping the script. 310 00:15:55,901 --> 00:15:59,501 And often I'll find the dialogue shakes out. 311 00:15:59,501 --> 00:16:01,391 Because I'll say, all right, just 312 00:16:01,391 --> 00:16:03,461 forget about the written word. 313 00:16:03,461 --> 00:16:05,081 Forget about the page. 314 00:16:05,081 --> 00:16:07,264 Just improv the scene. 315 00:16:07,264 --> 00:16:08,681 This was very helpful in "Titanic" 316 00:16:08,681 --> 00:16:10,931 because some of the language was a bit stilted 317 00:16:10,931 --> 00:16:12,671 because it was of its period. 318 00:16:12,671 --> 00:16:14,561 And I wanted these two young actors 319 00:16:14,561 --> 00:16:16,991 to get a sense for, well, just play 320 00:16:16,991 --> 00:16:20,411 the scene the way you'd play it now in your current idiom, 321 00:16:20,411 --> 00:16:21,931 the way you would speak. 322 00:16:21,931 --> 00:16:24,641 And so they just played it as themselves, essentially. 323 00:16:24,641 --> 00:16:27,814 I mean, the sort of halfway between the character 324 00:16:27,814 --> 00:16:29,231 was the character, but interpreted 325 00:16:29,231 --> 00:16:31,811 through contemporary language. 326 00:16:31,811 --> 00:16:34,511 And some interesting ideas came out of that. 327 00:16:34,511 --> 00:16:37,578 An interesting dynamic came out of it. 328 00:16:37,578 --> 00:16:39,161 I said, all right, I'm going to go off 329 00:16:39,161 --> 00:16:41,081 and I'm going to rewrite the scene. 330 00:16:41,081 --> 00:16:44,651 And I'm going to put it into the idiom of the time. 331 00:16:44,651 --> 00:16:46,361 But it'll be these ideas. 332 00:16:46,361 --> 00:16:49,091 It'll be these things that we discovered in rehearsal. 333 00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:51,251 I mean, a really good example that I think really 334 00:16:51,251 --> 00:16:54,441 added value to a particular scene in "Titanic," 335 00:16:54,441 --> 00:16:58,841 we were rehearsing the scene where Cal, her fiancee, 336 00:16:58,841 --> 00:17:02,171 grabs her arm and tries to drag her aboard the lifeboat, 337 00:17:02,171 --> 00:17:06,071 tries to control her, not listen to her, as usual. 338 00:17:06,071 --> 00:17:08,411 And the way I had written it, she 339 00:17:08,411 --> 00:17:11,531 pulls a hatpin out of her hair and sticks him in the arm, 340 00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:13,541 forcing him to release her. 341 00:17:13,541 --> 00:17:17,021 And she runs away into the crowd. 342 00:17:17,021 --> 00:17:20,171 But then we were talking about the hatpin 343 00:17:20,171 --> 00:17:25,140 and Kate said, well, why don't I just spit in his face? 344 00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:26,488 And it was so brilliant. 345 00:17:26,488 --> 00:17:28,321 I don't even think she realized how great it 346 00:17:28,321 --> 00:17:32,101 was because it was a callback to a previous scene, the scene 347 00:17:32,101 --> 00:17:34,471 in the film where Jack-- 348 00:17:34,471 --> 00:17:38,841 Leonardo's character-- teaches her how to spit like a man. 349 00:17:38,841 --> 00:17:41,041 So it was a perfect closure of the ellipse. 350 00:17:41,041 --> 00:17:43,831 It was something Jack taught her how to do. 351 00:17:43,831 --> 00:17:47,131 And she used it in that moment to break, 352 00:17:47,131 --> 00:17:52,231 to end the relationship, or at least she thought so, with Cal. 353 00:17:52,231 --> 00:17:54,341 Where are you going? 354 00:17:54,341 --> 00:17:56,371 What, to him? 355 00:17:56,371 --> 00:17:59,161 To be a whore to a gutter rat? 356 00:17:59,161 --> 00:18:01,111 I'd rather be his whore than your wife. 357 00:18:05,101 --> 00:18:06,931 No. 358 00:18:06,931 --> 00:18:09,196 I said no. 359 00:18:09,196 --> 00:18:13,381 WOMAN: Rose, please stop. 360 00:18:13,381 --> 00:18:14,171 It was perfect. 361 00:18:14,171 --> 00:18:17,841 It was like it was like a moment a writer would go aha, 362 00:18:17,841 --> 00:18:19,321 this is great. 363 00:18:19,321 --> 00:18:20,861 I've solved the problem. 364 00:18:20,861 --> 00:18:22,521 And she solved it. 365 00:18:22,521 --> 00:18:23,521 So that's how we did it. 366 00:18:23,521 --> 00:18:25,561 Now, poor Billy Zane didn't particularly 367 00:18:25,561 --> 00:18:29,026 like having a big old loogie shot into his face 50 times. 368 00:18:29,026 --> 00:18:30,901 By the time we were done shooting that scene, 369 00:18:30,901 --> 00:18:32,701 he was well over the idea. 370 00:18:32,701 --> 00:18:36,651 But I think it turned out to be a nice moment. 1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:02,769 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 2 00:00:04,151 --> 00:00:07,101 JAMES CAMERON: The first moments of a character 3 00:00:07,101 --> 00:00:10,431 should somehow resonate with the entire rest of the film. 4 00:00:10,431 --> 00:00:13,389 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 5 00:00:26,161 --> 00:00:27,911 So we talked about character introductions 6 00:00:27,911 --> 00:00:30,131 and a few different ones. 7 00:00:30,131 --> 00:00:35,501 I love stylistically interesting cinematic introductions 8 00:00:35,501 --> 00:00:39,971 of main characters or main adversaries. 9 00:00:39,971 --> 00:00:42,801 So here's one that I'll use as an example. 10 00:00:42,801 --> 00:00:44,711 This is in "Titanic." 11 00:00:44,711 --> 00:00:47,531 And let's say we'll start with this shot. 12 00:00:47,531 --> 00:00:49,961 It was a big crowd getting ready to board the ship 13 00:00:49,961 --> 00:00:51,461 and say goodbye to the people that 14 00:00:51,461 --> 00:00:53,021 are already boarding the ship. 15 00:00:53,021 --> 00:00:58,301 And so a thousand extras, and the camera's coming down, 16 00:00:58,301 --> 00:01:01,871 and we're coming on to a small group of people. 17 00:01:01,871 --> 00:01:03,611 And then we see this little girl. 18 00:01:03,611 --> 00:01:07,511 And meanwhile, we hear a horn honking. 19 00:01:07,511 --> 00:01:08,651 And she turns and looks. 20 00:01:08,651 --> 00:01:14,261 And here comes this beautiful, glittering, otherworldly car. 21 00:01:14,261 --> 00:01:16,671 And then the doors open, and we see a figure. 22 00:01:16,671 --> 00:01:18,821 A hand comes out, and then a foot comes out, 23 00:01:18,821 --> 00:01:21,611 and then a hat comes out. 24 00:01:21,611 --> 00:01:26,441 And then the hat wipe reveals Kate Winslet's face as Rose. 25 00:01:29,581 --> 00:01:33,031 And then we hear her first line of dialogue. 26 00:01:33,031 --> 00:01:36,181 KATE WINSLET (AS ROSE): I don't see what all the fuss is about. 27 00:01:36,181 --> 00:01:38,551 It doesn't look any bigger than the Mauretania. 28 00:01:38,551 --> 00:01:41,371 Which is very sort of blase and diva-like. 29 00:01:41,371 --> 00:01:43,531 (STUFFY ACCENT) "It doesn't look that big." 30 00:01:43,531 --> 00:01:44,441 You know? 31 00:01:44,441 --> 00:01:45,421 Kind of dismissive. 32 00:01:45,421 --> 00:01:47,371 And she sort of immediately sort of 33 00:01:47,371 --> 00:01:51,761 declares herself as a bit sort of posh and above it all. 34 00:01:51,761 --> 00:01:55,501 But we also get to see her entire ensemble, which is 35 00:01:55,501 --> 00:01:56,881 beautifully pulled together-- 36 00:01:56,881 --> 00:02:01,381 Edwardian day coat and her gorgeous hat. 37 00:02:01,381 --> 00:02:04,481 So she's kind of defined very, very, very quickly. 38 00:02:04,481 --> 00:02:07,021 But the cinematically interesting thing 39 00:02:07,021 --> 00:02:12,991 is the first thing we see of Rose is her car. 40 00:02:12,991 --> 00:02:14,561 And we see it from the perspective 41 00:02:14,561 --> 00:02:17,971 of a little girl who's a steerage class passenger. 42 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:19,931 And to her, it's like a fantasy. 43 00:02:19,931 --> 00:02:21,451 What she sees is the fantasy. 44 00:02:21,451 --> 00:02:23,171 She sees the princess. 45 00:02:23,171 --> 00:02:26,601 I've gone from the wide shot with literally, I don't know, 46 00:02:26,601 --> 00:02:29,371 it might have been 1,200, it might be 1,500 extras 47 00:02:29,371 --> 00:02:30,961 that were on call that day. 48 00:02:30,961 --> 00:02:33,241 And we built this huge set. 49 00:02:33,241 --> 00:02:37,051 And we come down with the crane, across the entire crowd. 50 00:02:37,051 --> 00:02:38,281 Everybody's waving. 51 00:02:38,281 --> 00:02:40,991 And then we introduce little Cora. 52 00:02:40,991 --> 00:02:43,441 Daddy, it's a ship. 53 00:02:43,441 --> 00:02:46,231 And just a relatively inconsequential line from her. 54 00:02:46,231 --> 00:02:47,671 It's not important. 55 00:02:47,671 --> 00:02:52,081 But she creates a subjective point of view. 56 00:02:52,081 --> 00:02:53,321 And then here comes the car. 57 00:02:53,321 --> 00:02:53,981 The car honks. 58 00:02:53,981 --> 00:02:54,891 It's clearing a path. 59 00:02:54,891 --> 00:02:57,881 And now we see it from Cora's perspective, 60 00:02:57,881 --> 00:03:00,251 the beautiful, golden glittering chariot. 61 00:03:00,251 --> 00:03:05,321 And not just one car, but a fleet of cars that show up. 62 00:03:05,321 --> 00:03:07,151 And this is a very long lens shot. 63 00:03:07,151 --> 00:03:11,021 This is probably a 150 millimeter lens shot. 64 00:03:11,021 --> 00:03:12,831 And it's designed to stack the frame. 65 00:03:12,831 --> 00:03:15,131 Now a lot of this sequence was shot with long lenses. 66 00:03:15,131 --> 00:03:16,661 And it's hard to imagine "Titanic" 67 00:03:16,661 --> 00:03:18,311 as being a low-budget movie. 68 00:03:18,311 --> 00:03:20,441 But if you looked 10 degrees over that way, 69 00:03:20,441 --> 00:03:23,681 or 10 degrees over that way, it was Baja, California. 70 00:03:23,681 --> 00:03:25,661 We were down in Rosarito Beach. 71 00:03:25,661 --> 00:03:27,491 So we had a piece of backing that 72 00:03:27,491 --> 00:03:29,711 was supposed to look like the city of Southampton 73 00:03:29,711 --> 00:03:31,181 at the Southampton docks. 74 00:03:31,181 --> 00:03:32,771 And if I moved off that backing, I 75 00:03:32,771 --> 00:03:36,131 was looking at scrub brush and hills. 76 00:03:36,131 --> 00:03:39,191 So not exactly a low-budget film, 77 00:03:39,191 --> 00:03:41,873 but every film has its limitations. 78 00:03:41,873 --> 00:03:43,331 Now we're creating an anticipation. 79 00:03:43,331 --> 00:03:44,051 Somebody's coming. 80 00:03:44,051 --> 00:03:44,381 Who is it? 81 00:03:44,381 --> 00:03:45,821 Somebody-- the door is being open. 82 00:03:45,821 --> 00:03:46,961 We see a hand come out. 83 00:03:46,961 --> 00:03:51,341 So Rose's introduction is her hand, her calfskin glove hand. 84 00:03:51,341 --> 00:03:54,461 And her foot delicately comes out, and her little parasol, 85 00:03:54,461 --> 00:03:55,661 and her hat. 86 00:03:55,661 --> 00:03:58,631 Right now, she's a hat, you know, in the same way 87 00:03:58,631 --> 00:04:03,731 that [INAUDIBLE] you know, the [INAUDIBLE] principle 88 00:04:03,731 --> 00:04:06,251 that the character is reduced to an object that 89 00:04:06,251 --> 00:04:07,841 represents that character. 90 00:04:07,841 --> 00:04:09,491 It's a highly fashionable hat. 91 00:04:09,491 --> 00:04:10,821 It's a rich girl hat. 92 00:04:10,821 --> 00:04:13,151 It was a very expensive hat. 93 00:04:13,151 --> 00:04:16,721 It was probably a unique hat from a couture designer 94 00:04:16,721 --> 00:04:17,290 in London. 95 00:04:17,290 --> 00:04:18,733 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 96 00:04:18,733 --> 00:04:20,176 And then we meet her. 97 00:04:20,176 --> 00:04:22,581 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 98 00:04:22,581 --> 00:04:25,701 And she's absolutely gorgeous. 99 00:04:25,701 --> 00:04:29,661 And I think for the average audience member, 100 00:04:29,661 --> 00:04:34,191 this is a moment that says, okay, she's the character. 101 00:04:34,191 --> 00:04:36,271 She's the one I'm going to follow. 102 00:04:36,271 --> 00:04:37,761 We also have a foreknowledge. 103 00:04:37,761 --> 00:04:39,861 We've seen this character. 104 00:04:39,861 --> 00:04:46,091 We've seen her at the age of 103 in sort 105 00:04:46,091 --> 00:04:48,221 of the prologue of the film. 106 00:04:48,221 --> 00:04:50,891 And we've been taken back in time through her narrative. 107 00:04:50,891 --> 00:04:52,511 She's the storyteller. 108 00:04:52,511 --> 00:04:55,451 So what did she look like when she was 19? 109 00:04:55,451 --> 00:04:56,351 You know. 110 00:04:56,351 --> 00:04:58,871 We've seen her as the old lady. 111 00:04:58,871 --> 00:05:03,491 Now we're going to go back and see her at this age. 112 00:05:03,491 --> 00:05:06,251 And so there's actually a few layers playing 113 00:05:06,251 --> 00:05:09,701 at this exact moment, even before the hat 114 00:05:09,701 --> 00:05:10,571 reveal takes place. 115 00:05:10,571 --> 00:05:13,196 And there's just something quite elegant about that hat reveal. 116 00:05:13,196 --> 00:05:15,161 And, of course, it was a fair number of takes 117 00:05:15,161 --> 00:05:17,801 to get the crane move just right and landing at the right time, 118 00:05:17,801 --> 00:05:19,931 and Kate's timing, and what she looked 119 00:05:19,931 --> 00:05:24,101 at with kind of interest, and how she kind of hit that pose. 120 00:05:24,101 --> 00:05:28,601 And so, to me, maybe it's a little too classic. 121 00:05:28,601 --> 00:05:30,551 Or maybe it's just classic enough 122 00:05:30,551 --> 00:05:33,041 to set a tone for this film, which 123 00:05:33,041 --> 00:05:35,831 plays by very classic rules of cinematography. 124 00:05:35,831 --> 00:05:38,621 It's not an iconoclastic film in that way. 125 00:05:38,621 --> 00:05:46,631 It's not trying to play by some very stylized rule set. 126 00:05:46,631 --> 00:05:50,501 It's trying to use classic cinematic technique 127 00:05:50,501 --> 00:05:52,181 to tell the story. 128 00:05:52,181 --> 00:05:53,548 We cut away to something else. 129 00:05:53,548 --> 00:05:54,881 We cut away to two of the shots. 130 00:05:54,881 --> 00:05:57,261 We introduced Cal, that's important. 131 00:05:57,261 --> 00:05:59,591 He is, in a way, the adversary, or one 132 00:05:59,591 --> 00:06:01,331 of the adversaries of the film. 133 00:06:01,331 --> 00:06:02,261 And then we come back. 134 00:06:02,261 --> 00:06:03,969 We come back to Rose, and she speaks. 135 00:06:03,969 --> 00:06:06,011 It doesn't look any bigger than the Mauretania. 136 00:06:06,011 --> 00:06:07,969 JAMES CAMERON: And she's a spoiled little brat. 137 00:06:07,969 --> 00:06:09,821 In a way, almost off-putting. 138 00:06:09,821 --> 00:06:11,088 She's not very nice. 139 00:06:11,088 --> 00:06:12,921 (STUFFY ACCENT) "It's not that much, is it?" 140 00:06:12,921 --> 00:06:15,131 You know, she's above it all. 141 00:06:15,131 --> 00:06:15,971 Yeah, okay. 142 00:06:15,971 --> 00:06:18,131 She's a spoiled little rich girl. 143 00:06:18,131 --> 00:06:18,791 I get it. 144 00:06:18,791 --> 00:06:20,921 I know who the character is. 145 00:06:20,921 --> 00:06:22,871 She's not the character I've already met. 146 00:06:22,871 --> 00:06:24,581 She's not that 103-year-old lady. 147 00:06:24,581 --> 00:06:27,821 All those years that have intervened have changed her. 148 00:06:27,821 --> 00:06:31,061 And she speaks with kind of a spirituality 149 00:06:31,061 --> 00:06:34,361 and a deep wisdom in the scenes that we've already met. 150 00:06:34,361 --> 00:06:37,851 That's not the girl that we're meeting right here. 151 00:06:37,851 --> 00:06:40,661 So, to me, in just a few shots, we've 152 00:06:40,661 --> 00:06:45,711 learned a tremendous amount about the character. 153 00:06:45,711 --> 00:06:48,521 But we also haven't learned the most important thing about her. 154 00:06:48,521 --> 00:06:51,611 She's that desperately unhappy, depressed woman 155 00:06:51,611 --> 00:06:54,251 that looks at herself in the mirror and says to herself-- 156 00:06:54,251 --> 00:06:55,481 you can see it in her eyes. 157 00:06:55,481 --> 00:06:56,771 Kate doesn't say it out loud-- 158 00:06:56,771 --> 00:06:58,061 what the hell? 159 00:06:58,061 --> 00:06:59,464 I'm in hell. 160 00:06:59,464 --> 00:07:00,881 And then the next time we see her, 161 00:07:00,881 --> 00:07:04,941 she's running down the deck, getting ready to climb over 162 00:07:04,941 --> 00:07:05,661 the railing. 163 00:07:05,661 --> 00:07:06,561 She's impetuous. 164 00:07:06,561 --> 00:07:07,401 She's impulsive. 165 00:07:07,401 --> 00:07:09,891 These are things that are revealed. 166 00:07:09,891 --> 00:07:11,721 So obviously a lot of time in the writing, 167 00:07:11,721 --> 00:07:13,971 a lot of time in the casting, and the rehearsal, then 168 00:07:13,971 --> 00:07:16,251 the production design, the design of the hat. 169 00:07:16,251 --> 00:07:18,841 A lot of things go into the creating of a character. 170 00:07:18,841 --> 00:07:21,381 But I do think there's something sacred and important 171 00:07:21,381 --> 00:07:23,646 about the way you introduce a character. 172 00:07:23,646 --> 00:07:25,521 You could be blase about some things, Rose, 173 00:07:25,521 --> 00:07:26,901 but not about Titanic. 174 00:07:26,901 --> 00:07:29,951 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:02,949 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 2 00:00:13,201 --> 00:00:15,721 I don't really love the term "villain." 3 00:00:15,721 --> 00:00:18,331 Because I don't think people ever 4 00:00:18,331 --> 00:00:21,331 think they're villains, even people that are doing 5 00:00:21,331 --> 00:00:24,541 horrific things, cruel things. 6 00:00:24,541 --> 00:00:27,091 They have their own rationale. 7 00:00:27,091 --> 00:00:29,101 We may not agree with it. 8 00:00:29,101 --> 00:00:32,814 And it may be warped or delusional. 9 00:00:32,814 --> 00:00:34,231 But they have their own rationale. 10 00:00:34,231 --> 00:00:36,941 They don't think they're villains, for the most part. 11 00:00:36,941 --> 00:00:39,901 So I like the term "adversary." 12 00:00:39,901 --> 00:00:43,471 So an adversary can be nature itself. 13 00:00:43,471 --> 00:00:48,091 It could be the tornado in "Twister," for example. 14 00:00:48,091 --> 00:00:51,571 But generally, we like human adversaries. 15 00:00:51,571 --> 00:00:53,721 Because, first of all, they're more fun. 16 00:00:53,721 --> 00:00:57,091 And we see interesting interpretations by actors. 17 00:00:57,091 --> 00:01:01,501 So you can go from a relatively simplistic adversary, 18 00:01:01,501 --> 00:01:04,441 like the Terminator, who basically is just death. 19 00:01:04,441 --> 00:01:06,101 He's just unstoppable. 20 00:01:06,101 --> 00:01:07,681 He's just very clear. 21 00:01:07,681 --> 00:01:09,781 And you take a very simple concept 22 00:01:09,781 --> 00:01:16,081 and you execute it in a disciplined way that 23 00:01:16,081 --> 00:01:21,211 becomes extraordinary, because of the perfect synchronicity 24 00:01:21,211 --> 00:01:24,841 between the actor, Arnold, and his character, 25 00:01:24,841 --> 00:01:26,881 and the way that that was realized, 26 00:01:26,881 --> 00:01:29,191 and the fact that he's an unstoppable force. 27 00:01:29,191 --> 00:01:32,221 And it's stated by one of the characters. 28 00:01:32,221 --> 00:01:34,291 It can't be bargained with. 29 00:01:34,291 --> 00:01:36,781 It can't be reasoned with. 30 00:01:36,781 --> 00:01:41,071 It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. 31 00:01:41,071 --> 00:01:44,071 And it absolutely will not stop-- 32 00:01:44,071 --> 00:01:46,393 ever-- until you are dead. 33 00:01:46,393 --> 00:01:47,851 JAMES CAMERON: You've just made him 34 00:01:47,851 --> 00:01:50,371 a very, very simple character. 35 00:01:50,371 --> 00:01:52,921 So that's kind of the opposite of subtlety. 36 00:01:52,921 --> 00:01:57,926 That's simple in extremity, which is kind of terrifying. 37 00:01:57,926 --> 00:02:00,301 Because humans are complex, and there's always the chance 38 00:02:00,301 --> 00:02:02,371 that we could maybe talk our way out of it, 39 00:02:02,371 --> 00:02:04,743 or we could negotiate, or we could buy them off, 40 00:02:04,743 --> 00:02:05,701 or something like that. 41 00:02:05,701 --> 00:02:07,801 Not going to work with the Terminator. 42 00:02:07,801 --> 00:02:12,151 When I got the great opportunity to direct the sequel to Ridley 43 00:02:12,151 --> 00:02:16,141 Scott's classic film, "Alien," where I went for the detail 44 00:02:16,141 --> 00:02:17,581 was the Alien Queen. 45 00:02:17,581 --> 00:02:20,611 The Alien Queen was not quite so simple a character. 46 00:02:20,611 --> 00:02:22,411 Because there's an interesting scene 47 00:02:22,411 --> 00:02:25,081 in that film where Ripley does negotiate with the Alien Queen. 48 00:02:25,081 --> 00:02:26,226 [SNARLING] 49 00:02:26,226 --> 00:02:28,351 JAMES CAMERON: She says, I've got the flamethrower. 50 00:02:28,351 --> 00:02:29,831 There's a lot of eggs in this room. 51 00:02:29,831 --> 00:02:31,981 I know you care, because you're a mother. 52 00:02:31,981 --> 00:02:35,461 So already, that simple character 53 00:02:35,461 --> 00:02:36,751 was made more complex. 54 00:02:36,751 --> 00:02:39,331 Even though we never heard the Alien Queen utter 55 00:02:39,331 --> 00:02:41,161 a line of dialogue, we knew exactly what 56 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:45,271 she was thinking, which was interesting and fun. 57 00:02:45,271 --> 00:02:48,331 Who was the villain in "Titanic?" 58 00:02:48,331 --> 00:02:50,281 The fiancee? 59 00:02:50,281 --> 00:02:52,951 I mean, I think he was an interesting character. 60 00:02:52,951 --> 00:02:57,991 There were a number of people who were adversarial 61 00:02:57,991 --> 00:03:00,181 to our main characters. 62 00:03:00,181 --> 00:03:02,491 But really it was fate. 63 00:03:02,491 --> 00:03:03,451 It was circumstance. 64 00:03:03,451 --> 00:03:04,681 It was destiny. 65 00:03:04,681 --> 00:03:08,111 So to say that there was a "villain" in that film, 66 00:03:08,111 --> 00:03:10,864 I think the villain was death. 67 00:03:10,864 --> 00:03:13,750 [BELL RINGING] 68 00:03:15,681 --> 00:03:17,121 The villain was the death that you 69 00:03:17,121 --> 00:03:19,641 knew was there from the beginning from the moment 70 00:03:19,641 --> 00:03:22,491 you bought a ticket to go see a movie called "Titanic," 71 00:03:22,491 --> 00:03:24,426 where thousands of people died. 72 00:03:27,101 --> 00:03:30,911 You could say, us against nature, but it was really-- 73 00:03:30,911 --> 00:03:32,381 nature wasn't the enemy. 74 00:03:32,381 --> 00:03:35,541 It was human mismanagement that created a catastrophe. 75 00:03:35,541 --> 00:03:41,351 So that's a villain in its own sort of category. 76 00:03:41,351 --> 00:03:44,261 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 77 00:03:47,661 --> 00:03:50,541 The introduction of the adversary 78 00:03:50,541 --> 00:03:53,781 is I think as important as the introduction 79 00:03:53,781 --> 00:03:55,701 of the protagonist. 80 00:03:55,701 --> 00:03:57,681 We need to invest in the adversary, as well. 81 00:03:57,681 --> 00:04:00,891 We have to imbue that adversary with power. 82 00:04:00,891 --> 00:04:05,781 We have to feel that they are a worthy adversary, that this 83 00:04:05,781 --> 00:04:09,664 is someone who can be very threatening-- maybe threatening 84 00:04:09,664 --> 00:04:11,331 to everybody, or maybe just specifically 85 00:04:11,331 --> 00:04:13,191 threatening to our character. 86 00:04:13,191 --> 00:04:18,651 If we don't believe in their power, their lethality, 87 00:04:18,651 --> 00:04:21,501 or their ability to do harm to our character, 88 00:04:21,501 --> 00:04:23,341 then we're not invested in the story. 89 00:04:23,341 --> 00:04:24,921 So we have to spend time with them. 90 00:04:24,921 --> 00:04:26,546 And I believe that any character you're 91 00:04:26,546 --> 00:04:29,221 spending time with in a movie should be interesting. 92 00:04:29,221 --> 00:04:30,279 They should be unique. 93 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,321 They should be different. 94 00:04:31,321 --> 00:04:32,811 They should be quirky. 95 00:04:32,811 --> 00:04:35,511 Or they should be fascinating in some way. 96 00:04:35,511 --> 00:04:41,761 So Arnold's Terminator character was introduced essentially 97 00:04:41,761 --> 00:04:47,611 appearing in a ball of lightning from somewhere else. 98 00:04:47,611 --> 00:04:49,471 Just-- [POP NOISE] --he's just there. 99 00:04:49,471 --> 00:04:53,321 And he's crouched in this kind of almost Greek God 100 00:04:53,321 --> 00:04:58,748 sculptural way in a cloud of smoke, rises out of that, 101 00:04:58,748 --> 00:05:00,331 and all of a sudden you're interested. 102 00:05:00,331 --> 00:05:01,231 Like who is this guy? 103 00:05:01,231 --> 00:05:03,451 Why is he naked? 104 00:05:03,451 --> 00:05:05,551 And who is he? 105 00:05:05,551 --> 00:05:06,614 What's he do? 106 00:05:06,614 --> 00:05:09,031 And then he walks forward, and he looks out over the city. 107 00:05:09,031 --> 00:05:13,051 And there's-- to me, even that shot is an implied threat. 108 00:05:13,051 --> 00:05:15,121 He's about to go out there into that city 109 00:05:15,121 --> 00:05:16,351 and do something harmful. 110 00:05:16,351 --> 00:05:19,651 You just know right away he's there to do bad. 111 00:05:19,651 --> 00:05:22,381 And then that question gets answered within the next minute 112 00:05:22,381 --> 00:05:25,801 or so, where he encounters these guys hanging out 113 00:05:25,801 --> 00:05:27,901 up at Griffith Observatory and kills them 114 00:05:27,901 --> 00:05:29,971 all for one simple thing-- 115 00:05:29,971 --> 00:05:32,391 Your clothes. 116 00:05:32,391 --> 00:05:33,141 Give them to me. 117 00:05:33,141 --> 00:05:34,259 Now. 118 00:05:34,259 --> 00:05:36,801 JAMES CAMERON: He needed their clothing so he could blend in. 119 00:05:36,801 --> 00:05:38,871 So he could perform his mission. 120 00:05:44,981 --> 00:05:49,691 So you start to very quickly declare that he's relentless. 121 00:05:49,691 --> 00:05:50,801 He's mission-focused. 122 00:05:50,801 --> 00:05:56,081 He has-- he kind of stands out. 123 00:05:56,081 --> 00:05:57,341 He doesn't blend in. 124 00:05:57,341 --> 00:06:01,121 So his attempt to basically kind of camouflage himself 125 00:06:01,121 --> 00:06:03,651 is always going to be challenged. 126 00:06:03,651 --> 00:06:07,661 I think the more an actor tries to make a villain "scary," 127 00:06:07,661 --> 00:06:09,161 the more they fail. 128 00:06:09,161 --> 00:06:13,691 Sometimes it's the absolute banality of how they talk 129 00:06:13,691 --> 00:06:16,271 and how they express themselves, and the fact 130 00:06:16,271 --> 00:06:18,761 that they seem real, they seem to be 131 00:06:18,761 --> 00:06:21,041 a real person makes it scarier. 132 00:06:21,041 --> 00:06:22,941 Because it seems more plausible. 133 00:06:22,941 --> 00:06:23,441 You know? 134 00:06:23,441 --> 00:06:27,401 I think that it's important to resist the desire 135 00:06:27,401 --> 00:06:32,411 to do Dracula, or Darth Vader, or the Terminator 136 00:06:32,411 --> 00:06:34,811 unless you're really confident that you 137 00:06:34,811 --> 00:06:36,881 can sell that in an extraordinary way that 138 00:06:36,881 --> 00:06:38,551 hasn't been seen before. 139 00:06:38,551 --> 00:06:44,171 I think quirkiness, nuance, detail, humor-- 140 00:06:44,171 --> 00:06:48,761 you create an adversary that's humorous, 141 00:06:48,761 --> 00:06:50,591 now you're getting conflicting signals. 142 00:06:50,591 --> 00:06:52,931 Because you innately like funny people. 143 00:06:52,931 --> 00:06:53,681 But wait a minute? 144 00:06:53,681 --> 00:06:56,231 This guy's a killer. 145 00:06:56,231 --> 00:06:57,311 You make them compelling. 146 00:06:57,311 --> 00:07:01,691 You make them not necessarily subtle, but detailed 147 00:07:01,691 --> 00:07:05,651 and a little bit against the simple expectation. 148 00:07:05,651 --> 00:07:08,489 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 149 00:07:12,281 --> 00:07:14,801 With the Terminator, I think you knew what was on his mind. 150 00:07:14,801 --> 00:07:16,691 You even went inside his mind. 151 00:07:16,691 --> 00:07:18,591 We did an interesting thing there, 152 00:07:18,591 --> 00:07:22,451 which is we literally go inside the Terminator's processing. 153 00:07:22,451 --> 00:07:24,731 You see what the outside world looks like to him. 154 00:07:24,731 --> 00:07:26,261 And you see all the graphic overlays 155 00:07:26,261 --> 00:07:28,491 of the processing that's going on. 156 00:07:28,491 --> 00:07:31,301 So it's a metaphor for how his mind works. 157 00:07:31,301 --> 00:07:33,461 He's working from a visual basis. 158 00:07:33,461 --> 00:07:34,481 He's processing it. 159 00:07:34,481 --> 00:07:36,141 He's identifying targets. 160 00:07:36,141 --> 00:07:41,411 It's sort of printing out what his analysis of that target is. 161 00:07:41,411 --> 00:07:44,031 And people were interested in that. 162 00:07:44,031 --> 00:07:45,821 So once again, it's engagement. 163 00:07:45,821 --> 00:07:49,931 It's making the villain subjective for a moment. 164 00:07:49,931 --> 00:07:53,141 You're briefly in the Terminator's reality. 165 00:07:53,141 --> 00:07:57,401 You're in the reality of a machine killer for a moment. 166 00:07:57,401 --> 00:08:00,391 And I think that that's a very powerful tool. 167 00:08:00,391 --> 00:08:03,881 Put your audience subjectively in the reality 168 00:08:03,881 --> 00:08:06,581 of the adversary, and the adversary becomes real. 169 00:08:06,581 --> 00:08:09,431 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 170 00:08:13,231 --> 00:08:15,451 In the case of the Alien Queen, I 171 00:08:15,451 --> 00:08:19,711 was trying to create a character whose motivation I understood, 172 00:08:19,711 --> 00:08:24,301 but who was terrifying and very other-- 173 00:08:24,301 --> 00:08:29,551 other from us-- and dangerous and terrifying in a very almost 174 00:08:29,551 --> 00:08:32,411 subconscious way because of that. 175 00:08:32,411 --> 00:08:36,781 So the Alien Queen, following on the motifs of the first film, 176 00:08:36,781 --> 00:08:38,310 doesn't have eyes. 177 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:40,570 She's all mouth. 178 00:08:40,570 --> 00:08:41,981 She has no eyes at all. 179 00:08:41,981 --> 00:08:44,821 And so we think of the eyes as the window of the soul. 180 00:08:44,821 --> 00:08:48,091 We think of the eyes as being an incredibly expressive part 181 00:08:48,091 --> 00:08:49,471 of the face. 182 00:08:49,471 --> 00:08:53,011 But the mouth is the way we communicate verbally. 183 00:08:53,011 --> 00:08:56,011 And so much of our expression, really more so than the eyes, 184 00:08:56,011 --> 00:08:56,871 is in our mouth. 185 00:08:56,871 --> 00:08:59,911 So the Alien Queen had an exaggerated mouth. 186 00:08:59,911 --> 00:09:04,181 She even had a mouth within her mouth that extended out. 187 00:09:04,181 --> 00:09:07,111 So she didn't use language, at least not 188 00:09:07,111 --> 00:09:09,151 a language we could understand. 189 00:09:09,151 --> 00:09:10,711 Although, presumably, she had a way 190 00:09:10,711 --> 00:09:13,891 of communicating in complex symbolic forms 191 00:09:13,891 --> 00:09:17,911 with her other Alien warriors. 192 00:09:17,911 --> 00:09:21,211 Because she basically hisses at them, and they understand what 193 00:09:21,211 --> 00:09:22,278 she means. 194 00:09:22,278 --> 00:09:23,861 Now when my mother used to hiss at me, 195 00:09:23,861 --> 00:09:25,381 I understood what she meant. 196 00:09:25,381 --> 00:09:27,901 But I think the implication was there was probably 197 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:33,841 some high frequency coded data in that hiss, and/or, who 198 00:09:33,841 --> 00:09:35,321 knows, a telepathic connection. 199 00:09:35,321 --> 00:09:36,251 Whatever. 200 00:09:36,251 --> 00:09:38,131 But the point is we couldn't understand what 201 00:09:38,131 --> 00:09:39,391 the Alien Queen was saying. 202 00:09:39,391 --> 00:09:40,411 But it didn't matter. 203 00:09:40,411 --> 00:09:42,211 [SNARLING] 204 00:09:45,811 --> 00:09:47,611 [HISSING] 205 00:09:48,211 --> 00:09:51,261 [NERVOUS EXHALE] 1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:02,581 2 00:00:03,081 --> 00:00:06,411 JAMES CAMERON: When the term is a computer-generated character, 3 00:00:06,411 --> 00:00:08,451 there's the impression that the computer's 4 00:00:08,451 --> 00:00:09,771 creating the character. 5 00:00:09,771 --> 00:00:11,451 Computer's not creating anything. 6 00:00:11,451 --> 00:00:15,231 Computer is doing the number crunching to generate an image. 7 00:00:15,231 --> 00:00:17,661 But character is being created by the actor. 8 00:00:17,661 --> 00:00:20,721 It's not animation, it's performance capture. 9 00:00:20,721 --> 00:00:23,649 10 00:00:34,391 --> 00:00:38,351 We've talked about low-budget filmmaking. 11 00:00:38,351 --> 00:00:40,451 Now we're going to talk about the opposite end 12 00:00:40,451 --> 00:00:41,381 of the spectrum. 13 00:00:41,381 --> 00:00:47,749 In "Avatar," we were-- it was a highly experimental production. 14 00:00:47,749 --> 00:00:49,541 So one of the things that's unique about it 15 00:00:49,541 --> 00:00:53,381 is that we went into it starting years before the release. 16 00:00:53,381 --> 00:00:58,449 We started in 2005, and the film came out in late 2009, 17 00:00:58,449 --> 00:00:59,991 not knowing exactly how we were going 18 00:00:59,991 --> 00:01:02,401 to solve most of the problems. 19 00:01:02,401 --> 00:01:05,971 We had a general idea of how to do things. 20 00:01:05,971 --> 00:01:08,481 We were pretty thin on specifics. 21 00:01:08,481 --> 00:01:12,291 And I had actually written "Avatar" in 1995, 22 00:01:12,291 --> 00:01:14,901 as a challenge to my digital effects company, 23 00:01:14,901 --> 00:01:16,581 Digital Domain. 24 00:01:16,581 --> 00:01:18,081 And they said, we can't do it yet. 25 00:01:18,081 --> 00:01:20,391 We don't have the tools to do the muscle 26 00:01:20,391 --> 00:01:22,671 rigs, and the facial muscle rigs, 27 00:01:22,671 --> 00:01:24,141 and the eyes, and the hands. 28 00:01:24,141 --> 00:01:25,731 And we can't do it. 29 00:01:25,731 --> 00:01:26,631 It's too much. 30 00:01:26,631 --> 00:01:28,491 It's beyond us right now. 31 00:01:28,491 --> 00:01:30,081 I said, all right, I'll just put it-- 32 00:01:30,081 --> 00:01:32,573 I'll just put it in a shelf for a few years. 33 00:01:32,573 --> 00:01:34,281 And I waited, and I waited, and I waited. 34 00:01:34,281 --> 00:01:37,521 And then I was watching "The Two Towers." 35 00:01:37,521 --> 00:01:41,449 And there's the scene where Gollum talks to himself. 36 00:01:41,449 --> 00:01:42,741 And he's in two places at once. 37 00:01:42,741 --> 00:01:44,991 And he's having this kind of schizophrenic, out-of-body 38 00:01:44,991 --> 00:01:45,501 experience. 39 00:01:45,501 --> 00:01:47,391 And it's highly expressive, highly emotional. 40 00:01:47,391 --> 00:01:49,311 It goes on for several minutes. 41 00:01:49,311 --> 00:01:51,501 And it's 100% CG character. 42 00:01:51,501 --> 00:01:53,691 And I said to myself, if they can 43 00:01:53,691 --> 00:01:55,456 do that, I can make "Avatar." 44 00:01:55,456 --> 00:01:57,831 And that's what set me down the path of making the movie. 45 00:01:57,831 --> 00:02:00,261 So I was inspired by the work of another filmmaker. 46 00:02:00,261 --> 00:02:03,711 I was building on what Peter Jackson had done 47 00:02:03,711 --> 00:02:05,821 and what WETA Digital had already done. 48 00:02:05,821 --> 00:02:08,181 So I came in with a whole new set of challenges 49 00:02:08,181 --> 00:02:10,178 and a new high bar they had to get through. 50 00:02:10,178 --> 00:02:11,011 And they loved that. 51 00:02:11,011 --> 00:02:13,131 They loved that challenge. 52 00:02:13,131 --> 00:02:15,111 We just studied a lot of close-ups, really 53 00:02:15,111 --> 00:02:17,841 big close-ups of men and women and looked at them 54 00:02:17,841 --> 00:02:20,494 in different kinds of lighting and said, well what do you see? 55 00:02:20,494 --> 00:02:22,161 What do you see about the way they move? 56 00:02:22,161 --> 00:02:24,244 What do you see about the way they take the light? 57 00:02:24,244 --> 00:02:26,541 What do you see about the skin pores? 58 00:02:26,541 --> 00:02:28,081 What do you see about the eye? 59 00:02:28,081 --> 00:02:28,581 You know? 60 00:02:28,581 --> 00:02:31,431 And one of the breakthroughs was the eye is not dry, 61 00:02:31,431 --> 00:02:32,331 the eye is wet. 62 00:02:32,331 --> 00:02:33,591 That's kind of obvious. 63 00:02:33,591 --> 00:02:38,091 But it also means that the upper part of the lower eyelid 64 00:02:38,091 --> 00:02:39,591 is actually a wet surface. 65 00:02:39,591 --> 00:02:45,531 And there's a little meniscus of tear fluid between that eyelid 66 00:02:45,531 --> 00:02:47,901 and between the eyeball. 67 00:02:47,901 --> 00:02:49,251 And it catches the light. 68 00:02:49,251 --> 00:02:52,011 And there's a little glint there, and it's always there. 69 00:02:52,011 --> 00:02:54,501 But if you're not looking for it, you'll never see it. 70 00:02:54,501 --> 00:02:59,243 The second we put the meniscus in, the eye came to life. 71 00:02:59,243 --> 00:03:01,451 I know, it sounds like a little tiny thing, something 72 00:03:01,451 --> 00:03:02,451 you'd never think about. 73 00:03:02,451 --> 00:03:05,741 But when it's missing, you sense the lack. 74 00:03:05,741 --> 00:03:09,161 And I always felt that CG characters fell down 75 00:03:09,161 --> 00:03:10,541 around the movement of the mouth. 76 00:03:10,541 --> 00:03:12,221 It always felt mask-like. 77 00:03:12,221 --> 00:03:14,771 It always felt sort of too thin at the corner of the mouth 78 00:03:14,771 --> 00:03:17,441 and not interacting properly with the teeth. 79 00:03:17,441 --> 00:03:21,101 It didn't feel like those muscles really exist, 80 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:22,606 like the dimensionality of the mouth 81 00:03:22,606 --> 00:03:23,773 and the face really existed. 82 00:03:23,773 --> 00:03:27,761 So we spent literally a couple of years figuring out how 83 00:03:27,761 --> 00:03:29,621 to do this with WETA Digital. 84 00:03:29,621 --> 00:03:32,651 And WETA Digital did the heavy lifting on this. 85 00:03:32,651 --> 00:03:36,251 And it was iteration after iteration after iteration 86 00:03:36,251 --> 00:03:38,164 and coming up with little things. 87 00:03:38,164 --> 00:03:40,331 So the most critical thing about all visual effects, 88 00:03:40,331 --> 00:03:42,581 and certainly any kind of CG character design, 89 00:03:42,581 --> 00:03:45,941 and especially if you're trying to emulate photo reality, 90 00:03:45,941 --> 00:03:47,561 is to observe. 91 00:03:47,561 --> 00:03:48,941 Observe, observe, observe. 92 00:03:48,941 --> 00:03:51,827 93 00:03:56,641 --> 00:03:58,441 In a nutshell, the methodology was 94 00:03:58,441 --> 00:04:01,321 that we're going to capture the performance using 95 00:04:01,321 --> 00:04:03,061 a collection of data. 96 00:04:03,061 --> 00:04:05,341 The idea of motion capture where we 97 00:04:05,341 --> 00:04:10,034 capture the body movement of a character had been around-- 98 00:04:10,034 --> 00:04:12,201 I used it on "Titanic" for some of the crowd scenes. 99 00:04:12,201 --> 00:04:13,891 So that had been around for a while. 100 00:04:13,891 --> 00:04:16,473 It had been around for at least 10 years. 101 00:04:16,473 --> 00:04:18,181 The idea of how you were going to capture 102 00:04:18,181 --> 00:04:20,761 the specifics of a facial performance, which 103 00:04:20,761 --> 00:04:24,461 is where you see the majority of the emotion in the eyes, 104 00:04:24,461 --> 00:04:28,231 the mouth, all the many, many muscles in the face. 105 00:04:28,231 --> 00:04:31,531 So it's almost it's own separate world 106 00:04:31,531 --> 00:04:33,286 from the full body performance. 107 00:04:33,286 --> 00:04:35,161 People that have tried to do this in the past 108 00:04:35,161 --> 00:04:38,429 tried to do it by using markers that they put on the face 109 00:04:38,429 --> 00:04:40,471 and capturing the face the same way they captured 110 00:04:40,471 --> 00:04:44,881 the body, with a bunch of motion capture cameras and a big array 111 00:04:44,881 --> 00:04:45,851 around it. 112 00:04:45,851 --> 00:04:47,851 But the detail wasn't fine enough. 113 00:04:47,851 --> 00:04:51,481 They could only work in very small volumes. 114 00:04:51,481 --> 00:04:52,966 It really limited the action. 115 00:04:52,966 --> 00:04:54,591 It limited how they were going to-- you 116 00:04:54,591 --> 00:04:58,191 know, the type of action that they could stage. 117 00:04:58,191 --> 00:04:59,901 And it was very-- 118 00:04:59,901 --> 00:05:04,041 I mean you had to literally glue like 80 little, tiny glass bead 119 00:05:04,041 --> 00:05:05,721 balls onto the actor's face. 120 00:05:05,721 --> 00:05:06,411 It was horrible. 121 00:05:06,411 --> 00:05:07,971 Actors didn't like it. 122 00:05:07,971 --> 00:05:09,891 The end result wasn't that great. 123 00:05:09,891 --> 00:05:13,291 So we proposed a completely different solution, 124 00:05:13,291 --> 00:05:16,221 which is to take something that looked a lot like a boom mic 125 00:05:16,221 --> 00:05:20,031 for a singer in a concert and put a little tiny video 126 00:05:20,031 --> 00:05:22,221 camera out on the end of it on a pretty wide lens 127 00:05:22,221 --> 00:05:25,731 and shoot the face, film the face, or video the face, 128 00:05:25,731 --> 00:05:27,771 while the actor is doing the scene. 129 00:05:27,771 --> 00:05:29,091 And it's knolled out to them. 130 00:05:29,091 --> 00:05:31,311 It stays with them wherever they go. 131 00:05:31,311 --> 00:05:34,821 And it's getting a 100% recording, a close-up 132 00:05:34,821 --> 00:05:39,331 recording, of their performance, their facial performance. 133 00:05:39,331 --> 00:05:42,171 So now you've got a video data stream coming out of the face, 134 00:05:42,171 --> 00:05:46,231 and we called that image-based facial performance capture. 135 00:05:46,231 --> 00:05:46,731 Right? 136 00:05:46,731 --> 00:05:50,831 And that set a trend that's still in motion to this day. 137 00:05:50,831 --> 00:05:53,031 A lot of other people have used it. 138 00:05:53,031 --> 00:05:55,341 Different people have brought different refinements 139 00:05:55,341 --> 00:05:56,011 to the process. 140 00:05:56,011 --> 00:05:58,911 But it hasn't fundamentally changed since 2005 when 141 00:05:58,911 --> 00:06:01,321 we first launched the concept. 142 00:06:01,321 --> 00:06:04,681 So now you have two data streams that are recording the actor's 143 00:06:04,681 --> 00:06:05,313 performance. 144 00:06:05,313 --> 00:06:06,771 You're getting the body performance 145 00:06:06,771 --> 00:06:10,341 off a standard motion capture system 146 00:06:10,341 --> 00:06:12,621 with a lot of really tricky bells and whistles 147 00:06:12,621 --> 00:06:13,853 on it to make it better. 148 00:06:13,853 --> 00:06:15,561 And you're getting the facial performance 149 00:06:15,561 --> 00:06:17,978 from this little camera that's on this little camera boom. 150 00:06:17,978 --> 00:06:21,441 Here's me with my virtual camera on "Avatar." 151 00:06:21,441 --> 00:06:24,861 And I'm working with the actors in their capture suits. 152 00:06:24,861 --> 00:06:26,901 You can see that they have marker suits. 153 00:06:26,901 --> 00:06:28,521 We're just in a big lit stage. 154 00:06:28,521 --> 00:06:30,951 There's no jungle there whatsoever. 155 00:06:30,951 --> 00:06:32,641 They're running on a log. 156 00:06:32,641 --> 00:06:35,001 So I think these are probably more stunt 157 00:06:35,001 --> 00:06:36,403 doubles than anything. 158 00:06:36,403 --> 00:06:37,611 And they're running on a log. 159 00:06:37,611 --> 00:06:39,661 They're just running basically across the floor. 160 00:06:39,661 --> 00:06:40,731 It's very safe. 161 00:06:40,731 --> 00:06:42,081 And I'm looking-- 162 00:06:42,081 --> 00:06:44,421 I'm not looking at them with the camera, 163 00:06:44,421 --> 00:06:46,401 I'm looking at the characters that they're 164 00:06:46,401 --> 00:06:50,721 playing in real-time in the world, 165 00:06:50,721 --> 00:06:54,021 in the CG world all at low resolution. 166 00:06:54,021 --> 00:06:56,541 It almost looks like an old, crappy video game 167 00:06:56,541 --> 00:06:57,191 from the '80s. 168 00:06:57,191 --> 00:06:58,983 JAMES CAMERON (ON VIDEO): (SHOUTING) And 6. 169 00:06:58,983 --> 00:07:00,531 And 7. 170 00:07:00,531 --> 00:07:02,006 And 8. 171 00:07:02,006 --> 00:07:04,131 We're much better at it these days than we were-- 172 00:07:04,131 --> 00:07:08,041 this is all, you know, obviously 11 years old. 173 00:07:08,041 --> 00:07:08,553 Here's me. 174 00:07:08,553 --> 00:07:10,261 And, once again, I'm not looking at them. 175 00:07:10,261 --> 00:07:11,271 I'm looking at my image. 176 00:07:11,271 --> 00:07:13,281 But I'm near them, so I can talk to them. 177 00:07:13,281 --> 00:07:15,741 And I'm seeing what they look like in the world. 178 00:07:15,741 --> 00:07:18,226 And then here's me playing back. 179 00:07:18,226 --> 00:07:19,601 And what I'm seeing is they're up 180 00:07:19,601 --> 00:07:22,271 on what we call a vine bridge in between two floating mountains, 181 00:07:22,271 --> 00:07:24,938 and they're 1,000 feet above the ground. 182 00:07:24,938 --> 00:07:26,521 But, of course, because the characters 183 00:07:26,521 --> 00:07:29,401 are very mountain goat-like and can run around 184 00:07:29,401 --> 00:07:31,951 1,000 feet above the ground, it was okay for them 185 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:35,551 to not be scared and balancing and wobbling along. 186 00:07:35,551 --> 00:07:37,321 And it was completely safe. 187 00:07:37,321 --> 00:07:39,661 And so we're creating a fantasy image 188 00:07:39,661 --> 00:07:45,241 and using relatively simple setups to do it. 189 00:07:45,241 --> 00:07:47,731 And basically, we found out that it worked very well. 190 00:07:47,731 --> 00:07:49,201 You could do just about anything. 191 00:07:49,201 --> 00:07:51,451 You could run, you could jump, you could ride a horse, 192 00:07:51,451 --> 00:07:53,251 you could have a big argument. 193 00:07:53,251 --> 00:07:55,321 You could even, if you were careful, 194 00:07:55,321 --> 00:07:57,326 you could drink a beer. 195 00:07:57,326 --> 00:07:58,951 You could do whatever you needed to do. 196 00:07:58,951 --> 00:08:00,993 The only thing we couldn't shoot using the system 197 00:08:00,993 --> 00:08:02,731 was a kiss, for obvious reasons. 198 00:08:02,731 --> 00:08:05,381 Because the two booms would be in the way. 199 00:08:05,381 --> 00:08:08,311 So we had to use a different kind of harder technique that 200 00:08:08,311 --> 00:08:11,263 was more labor-intensive to do the kiss scene and a couple 201 00:08:11,263 --> 00:08:11,971 of other moments. 202 00:08:11,971 --> 00:08:13,801 But for the most part it worked for I'd 203 00:08:13,801 --> 00:08:16,956 say 99% of what we were trying to shoot. 204 00:08:16,956 --> 00:08:18,331 We had a lot of proof of concept. 205 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:20,161 We spent a fair bit of the studio's money-- 206 00:08:20,161 --> 00:08:22,291 the studio being 20th Century Fox-- 207 00:08:22,291 --> 00:08:25,451 to prove that we could do it. 208 00:08:25,451 --> 00:08:27,001 And to do that, we did a test. 209 00:08:27,001 --> 00:08:29,131 We did a 1 and 1/2 minute test. 210 00:08:29,131 --> 00:08:31,051 Boy meets girl in the jungle. 211 00:08:31,051 --> 00:08:32,700 And they talk. 212 00:08:32,700 --> 00:08:36,301 He only come and make problems. 213 00:08:36,301 --> 00:08:37,080 Only. 214 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,163 MAN (AS JAKE): Okay, fine. 215 00:08:38,163 --> 00:08:39,700 Fine. 216 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:41,481 Fine. 217 00:08:41,481 --> 00:08:43,599 You love your little forest friends. 218 00:08:43,599 --> 00:08:45,141 So why not just let them kill my ass? 219 00:08:45,141 --> 00:08:47,961 What's the thinking? 220 00:08:47,961 --> 00:08:49,191 Why save? 221 00:08:49,191 --> 00:08:50,811 MAN (AS JAKE): Yes. 222 00:08:50,811 --> 00:08:51,396 Why save. 223 00:08:55,551 --> 00:08:58,871 You not fear. 224 00:08:58,871 --> 00:09:01,601 You strong heart. 225 00:09:01,601 --> 00:09:05,321 And it was compelling enough that Fox was willing to pull 226 00:09:05,321 --> 00:09:10,541 the trigger on a $200-plus million project that then went 227 00:09:10,541 --> 00:09:13,181 somewhat over that budget. 228 00:09:13,181 --> 00:09:14,681 And it was three years later that we 229 00:09:14,681 --> 00:09:19,921 had the first shot that really proved that we could do it. 230 00:09:19,921 --> 00:09:21,051 So think about that. 231 00:09:21,051 --> 00:09:26,718 We had our proof of concept done in 2005. 232 00:09:26,718 --> 00:09:28,551 We got the first shot that we could actually 233 00:09:28,551 --> 00:09:32,111 use in the movie in 2008. 234 00:09:32,111 --> 00:09:35,391 And everything in between was a gigantic leap of faith. 235 00:09:35,391 --> 00:09:37,391 And it's easy to look back on it and say, oh, it 236 00:09:37,391 --> 00:09:38,411 was all a no-brainer. 237 00:09:38,411 --> 00:09:40,271 Come on, that world building, those great designs, 238 00:09:40,271 --> 00:09:40,896 all that stuff. 239 00:09:40,896 --> 00:09:41,711 Yeah. 240 00:09:41,711 --> 00:09:42,461 That's true. 241 00:09:42,461 --> 00:09:45,171 World building was a big part of it. 242 00:09:45,171 --> 00:09:47,001 This was the most important part, 243 00:09:47,001 --> 00:09:49,491 because the audience enters the film through the eyes 244 00:09:49,491 --> 00:09:51,751 and hearts of the characters. 245 00:09:51,751 --> 00:09:53,764 So we had to have the characters. 246 00:09:53,764 --> 00:09:56,602 247 00:09:59,441 --> 00:10:03,371 The key for me is, if the actor did the performance, 248 00:10:03,371 --> 00:10:07,191 we've captured it, it's going to be in the character later. 249 00:10:07,191 --> 00:10:10,481 If we want to run a little splitscreen here 250 00:10:10,481 --> 00:10:13,091 where you can see Zoe Saldana in one 251 00:10:13,091 --> 00:10:17,041 of her big emotional moments in the film with Sam Worthington. 252 00:10:17,041 --> 00:10:18,291 Emotional moment for him, too. 253 00:10:18,291 --> 00:10:19,751 I trusted you! 254 00:10:19,751 --> 00:10:20,501 Trust me now. 255 00:10:20,501 --> 00:10:21,001 Please. 256 00:10:21,001 --> 00:10:27,872 [SPEAKING IN NA'VI] That is why you not Na'vi [INAUDIBLE].. 257 00:10:27,872 --> 00:10:30,811 (ANGRILY) You will never be one of The People! 258 00:10:30,811 --> 00:10:32,091 He tried to stop them-- 259 00:10:32,091 --> 00:10:32,631 ZOE SALDANA (AS NEYTIRI): [SPEAKING IN NA'VI] 260 00:10:32,631 --> 00:10:33,411 Neytiri, please! 261 00:10:33,411 --> 00:10:35,059 Please! 262 00:10:35,059 --> 00:10:36,601 JAMES CAMERON: So she's freaking out, 263 00:10:36,601 --> 00:10:38,331 and it's the end of the relationship. 264 00:10:38,331 --> 00:10:40,761 But I think what's interesting here 265 00:10:40,761 --> 00:10:45,511 is to look at how closely we were 266 00:10:45,511 --> 00:10:46,951 able to capture her expression. 267 00:10:46,951 --> 00:10:50,011 It's not perfect, because her character is not exactly 268 00:10:50,011 --> 00:10:52,681 physiologically identical to her. 269 00:10:52,681 --> 00:10:53,974 Her nose is very different. 270 00:10:53,974 --> 00:10:55,141 Her eyes are very different. 271 00:10:55,141 --> 00:10:57,031 Her forehead's very different. 272 00:10:57,031 --> 00:10:58,501 But her mouth is very similar. 273 00:10:58,501 --> 00:11:01,741 And you can see that the performance capture technique 274 00:11:01,741 --> 00:11:05,191 captured what she did. 275 00:11:05,191 --> 00:11:08,671 It's an actor-driven process. 276 00:11:08,671 --> 00:11:11,941 Everything that she does, everything that Sam does, 277 00:11:11,941 --> 00:11:15,063 translates into the character. 278 00:11:15,063 --> 00:11:16,271 And this is what we hope for. 279 00:11:16,271 --> 00:11:18,221 This is what we worked toward. 280 00:11:18,221 --> 00:11:19,901 And, of course, this is the head rig. 281 00:11:19,901 --> 00:11:24,641 And this facial performance is being captured by this camera 282 00:11:24,641 --> 00:11:26,291 and by a video feed, a live video feed, 283 00:11:26,291 --> 00:11:30,041 we broadcast it off the body to a record deck. 284 00:11:30,041 --> 00:11:33,191 So you can see that he blinks, his lips are pulled back 285 00:11:33,191 --> 00:11:35,561 in that exact moment exactly the same way. 286 00:11:35,561 --> 00:11:39,101 It maps through frame by frame by frame. 287 00:11:39,101 --> 00:11:43,651 And we don't take liberties with this. 288 00:11:43,651 --> 00:11:45,811 It took us a long time to figure out 289 00:11:45,811 --> 00:11:49,801 how to create the neuromuscular rig, which we now 290 00:11:49,801 --> 00:11:51,991 call the algorithm for Zoe. 291 00:11:51,991 --> 00:11:53,851 Because Zoe's face did a lot of things 292 00:11:53,851 --> 00:11:56,701 that a lot of people's faces don't do. 293 00:11:56,701 --> 00:11:58,621 The way in which her lips would curl out, 294 00:11:58,621 --> 00:12:00,481 and her-- the tension, and the way her lips 295 00:12:00,481 --> 00:12:03,151 would thin out over her teeth in a very feral way. 296 00:12:03,151 --> 00:12:04,771 It's a very expressive face. 297 00:12:04,771 --> 00:12:08,701 And we needed to figure out how to get the pseudo-muscles that 298 00:12:08,701 --> 00:12:12,121 exist entirely mathematically to do that. 299 00:12:12,121 --> 00:12:13,561 And that was our goal. 300 00:12:13,561 --> 00:12:17,231 And that's what the technical teams at WETA were able to do. 301 00:12:17,231 --> 00:12:20,251 But the hand motion, everything, you 302 00:12:20,251 --> 00:12:22,771 can see how it maps frame by frame. 303 00:12:22,771 --> 00:12:26,494 And there's absolutely zero compromise in that system. 304 00:12:26,494 --> 00:12:28,411 You have to get the performance in the moment. 305 00:12:28,411 --> 00:12:30,121 You can't make it better later. 306 00:12:30,121 --> 00:12:31,496 There are a couple of times where 307 00:12:31,496 --> 00:12:33,001 we tried to alter a moment slightly, 308 00:12:33,001 --> 00:12:35,251 maybe to have a tiny bit more of a smile or a little bit 309 00:12:35,251 --> 00:12:35,821 more fear. 310 00:12:35,821 --> 00:12:38,821 [SCOFFS] It was a horrible failure. 311 00:12:38,821 --> 00:12:41,901 It has to be the actor has to do it. 312 00:12:41,901 --> 00:12:43,821 And then it's just up to us to honor it 313 00:12:43,821 --> 00:12:47,031 in the downstream pipeline, which takes about a year. 314 00:12:47,031 --> 00:12:49,191 From the moment you capture it, you're at least 315 00:12:49,191 --> 00:12:52,491 a year away from seeing a shot, which 316 00:12:52,491 --> 00:12:54,291 is a thing in and of itself. 317 00:12:54,291 --> 00:12:56,276 I don't recommend making a movie like "Avatar," 318 00:12:56,276 --> 00:12:57,651 but it's good for people to know, 319 00:12:57,651 --> 00:13:01,181 even if they're just starting out, what can be done. 320 00:13:01,181 --> 00:13:04,001 321 00:13:07,291 --> 00:13:12,059 If you're shooting a scene with camera, a photographic scene, 322 00:13:12,059 --> 00:13:14,351 you're going to shoot a master, some kind of wide shot. 323 00:13:14,351 --> 00:13:16,971 And you're going to probably shoot some kind of a two-shot, 324 00:13:16,971 --> 00:13:19,724 or a closer shot that ties both actors in. 325 00:13:19,724 --> 00:13:21,891 And then you're going to shoot an over-the-shoulder. 326 00:13:21,891 --> 00:13:24,433 And then you're probably going to shoot either a tighter over 327 00:13:24,433 --> 00:13:26,301 or a tight single on this side of it. 328 00:13:26,301 --> 00:13:27,831 Then you're going to turn the lighting all around, 329 00:13:27,831 --> 00:13:29,311 you're going to come around over here, 330 00:13:29,311 --> 00:13:31,551 then you're going to shoot the corresponding tight over, 331 00:13:31,551 --> 00:13:32,926 and then probably a tight single. 332 00:13:32,926 --> 00:13:34,071 That's classic coverage. 333 00:13:34,071 --> 00:13:35,821 A lot of filmmakers don't like to do that, 334 00:13:35,821 --> 00:13:36,951 because it's too classic. 335 00:13:36,951 --> 00:13:37,803 But it works. 336 00:13:37,803 --> 00:13:39,261 And there are reasons why it works, 337 00:13:39,261 --> 00:13:41,326 and people still do it all the time. 338 00:13:41,326 --> 00:13:42,951 But let's just take that as an example, 339 00:13:42,951 --> 00:13:44,701 because it is classic coverage. 340 00:13:44,701 --> 00:13:47,571 So that's six setups. 341 00:13:47,571 --> 00:13:53,841 Across those six setups, maybe you do five takes of each shot, 342 00:13:53,841 --> 00:13:57,494 just for the actors, just to figure out in the master what 343 00:13:57,494 --> 00:13:59,661 you're doing, figure out in the two-shot the timing, 344 00:13:59,661 --> 00:14:01,676 figure out in the close-up the emotion, 345 00:14:01,676 --> 00:14:03,051 the moment that somebody is going 346 00:14:03,051 --> 00:14:06,921 to cry or have some big reaction or whatever it is. 347 00:14:06,921 --> 00:14:07,911 The actors need time. 348 00:14:07,911 --> 00:14:09,328 They need to work their way to it. 349 00:14:09,328 --> 00:14:11,631 And so let's say five-- let's say five takes. 350 00:14:11,631 --> 00:14:13,731 So that's six setups times five takes. 351 00:14:13,731 --> 00:14:19,111 That's 30 times that the actors have to do it the same way, 352 00:14:19,111 --> 00:14:23,021 so that you can cut it together. 353 00:14:23,021 --> 00:14:25,671 On the other hand, I could do-- 354 00:14:25,671 --> 00:14:29,601 I think I did seven takes of this scene. 355 00:14:29,601 --> 00:14:31,481 And none of them were the same. 356 00:14:31,481 --> 00:14:34,106 But it didn't matter, because for this scene-- 357 00:14:34,106 --> 00:14:36,371 I'm gonna show you something really interesting here. 358 00:14:36,371 --> 00:14:37,954 And this is the fundamental difference 359 00:14:37,954 --> 00:14:40,201 I think with the performance capture. 360 00:14:40,201 --> 00:14:40,701 All right. 361 00:14:40,701 --> 00:14:42,441 So we start in a fairly tight two-shot. 362 00:14:42,441 --> 00:14:44,316 They're both barely in frame with each other, 363 00:14:44,316 --> 00:14:48,861 but it emphasizes the way he's trying to hold on to her, 364 00:14:48,861 --> 00:14:50,401 and she's pushing him away. 365 00:14:50,401 --> 00:14:51,891 All right? 366 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:55,391 Now we're going to cut to her close-up. 367 00:14:55,391 --> 00:14:56,301 All right? 368 00:14:56,301 --> 00:14:57,963 That's a separate set up, right? 369 00:14:57,963 --> 00:14:59,921 Then we're going to briefly be on that two-shot 370 00:14:59,921 --> 00:15:01,319 again while she slams him away. 371 00:15:01,319 --> 00:15:02,861 Then we're going to continue with her 372 00:15:02,861 --> 00:15:04,549 in a slightly looser close-up. 373 00:15:04,549 --> 00:15:06,341 And then we're going to cut to his reaction 374 00:15:06,341 --> 00:15:08,231 as he tries to explain it. 375 00:15:08,231 --> 00:15:11,711 And then we're going to cut to a medium shot, 376 00:15:11,711 --> 00:15:13,721 so that we could see her hand and her gesture 377 00:15:13,721 --> 00:15:15,041 as she pulls away. 378 00:15:15,041 --> 00:15:17,841 Again, I went wider here to suggest distance. 379 00:15:17,841 --> 00:15:19,504 She's already pulled away from him. 380 00:15:19,504 --> 00:15:20,921 We see a little bit of her mother. 381 00:15:20,921 --> 00:15:22,129 Her mother tries to stop her. 382 00:15:22,129 --> 00:15:24,091 She pushes the mother away. 383 00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:25,021 Guess what? 384 00:15:25,021 --> 00:15:27,311 It's all from the same take. 385 00:15:27,311 --> 00:15:30,371 All those shots are from the same take-- take seven. 386 00:15:30,371 --> 00:15:32,921 I happen to remember that, because I was very happy when 387 00:15:32,921 --> 00:15:35,421 I realized that there was one take that had everything in it 388 00:15:35,421 --> 00:15:37,726 that I wanted, where Sam was great, Zoe was great, 389 00:15:37,726 --> 00:15:38,601 everything was great. 390 00:15:38,601 --> 00:15:40,871 We had good reference coverage. 391 00:15:40,871 --> 00:15:42,401 So all of those shots were extracted 392 00:15:42,401 --> 00:15:43,961 from the same captured take. 393 00:15:43,961 --> 00:15:45,891 Now we had done other takes. 394 00:15:45,891 --> 00:15:47,121 I didn't like them as well. 395 00:15:47,121 --> 00:15:50,168 And so I didn't want to shoot my virtual camera 396 00:15:50,168 --> 00:15:51,251 coverage from those takes. 397 00:15:51,251 --> 00:15:53,281 I did it all from that one take. 398 00:15:53,281 --> 00:15:54,281 We don't always do that. 399 00:15:54,281 --> 00:15:57,061 But it shows what's possible. 1 00:00:03,444 --> 00:00:04,422 2 00:00:16,161 --> 00:00:21,261 I can't emphasize enough the importance of curiosity. 3 00:00:21,261 --> 00:00:24,051 I think curiosity is how you're going to find your stories. 4 00:00:24,051 --> 00:00:29,331 Curiosity is how you interact with the world 5 00:00:29,331 --> 00:00:31,941 and observe how people are. 6 00:00:31,941 --> 00:00:35,451 Before you can make a film, you have to have observed life, 7 00:00:35,451 --> 00:00:37,101 you have to have lived some life. 8 00:00:37,101 --> 00:00:39,501 And you have to have to have been in relationships, 9 00:00:39,501 --> 00:00:42,651 and you have to have noted things about people 10 00:00:42,651 --> 00:00:46,461 and found people just endlessly fascinating. 11 00:00:46,461 --> 00:00:49,881 Before you can radiate, you need to absorb. 12 00:00:49,881 --> 00:00:52,491 You know, it's the law of thermodynamics. 13 00:00:52,491 --> 00:00:55,351 It's the creativity law of thermodynamics. 14 00:00:55,351 --> 00:00:58,921 So, you know, you have to get good people. 15 00:00:58,921 --> 00:01:01,011 So all right, so you want to understand 16 00:01:01,011 --> 00:01:05,211 the basic technologies of computer animation. 17 00:01:05,211 --> 00:01:06,541 How does it work? 18 00:01:06,541 --> 00:01:08,271 What are the steps involved? 19 00:01:08,271 --> 00:01:11,361 It doesn't just spring full blown. 20 00:01:11,361 --> 00:01:12,771 You're going to start with ideas. 21 00:01:12,771 --> 00:01:14,751 You're going to start with design. 22 00:01:14,751 --> 00:01:18,201 Sometimes it's character design, sometimes it's creature design. 23 00:01:18,201 --> 00:01:20,331 Sometimes you'll go through performance capture. 24 00:01:20,331 --> 00:01:23,871 Maybe someone is playing a creature or a character. 25 00:01:23,871 --> 00:01:26,181 You need to know how to integrate these things 26 00:01:26,181 --> 00:01:28,701 with live action elements if you choose 27 00:01:28,701 --> 00:01:32,571 to go down that path of doing highly 28 00:01:32,571 --> 00:01:35,301 effects oriented filmmaking. 29 00:01:35,301 --> 00:01:37,761 It's really-- I don't want to say it's a separate art form, 30 00:01:37,761 --> 00:01:39,171 because there's a lot of-- 31 00:01:39,171 --> 00:01:40,431 it's a gradient. 32 00:01:40,431 --> 00:01:44,691 You could be making the most humanistic simple drama, 33 00:01:44,691 --> 00:01:48,471 but in order to create that scene in 1954 34 00:01:48,471 --> 00:01:52,063 that you want to do, suddenly you're in the effects world. 35 00:01:52,063 --> 00:01:54,021 So how are you going to learn about that stuff? 36 00:01:54,021 --> 00:01:58,251 Well, to start a lot of the tools are readily available. 37 00:01:58,251 --> 00:02:02,211 You can work relatively cheaply in some 38 00:02:02,211 --> 00:02:04,221 of the newer visual effects apps, 39 00:02:04,221 --> 00:02:07,431 so get some nerdy friends to come in 40 00:02:07,431 --> 00:02:09,921 and show you how to do that, or just sit and watch 41 00:02:09,921 --> 00:02:12,441 over their shoulder while they do something 42 00:02:12,441 --> 00:02:14,241 and learn the language. 43 00:02:14,241 --> 00:02:15,645 44 00:02:20,623 --> 00:02:22,331 Personally, I think it's really important 45 00:02:22,331 --> 00:02:25,991 to understand all the jobs on the set and all the jobs 46 00:02:25,991 --> 00:02:28,221 associated with making a film. 47 00:02:28,221 --> 00:02:30,791 So as one is coming up and trying 48 00:02:30,791 --> 00:02:35,441 to find your place in the ecosystem of filmmaking, 49 00:02:35,441 --> 00:02:38,621 I think it's a really good idea to try a bit of everything. 50 00:02:38,621 --> 00:02:41,651 Be the boom operator for one of your friend's films. 51 00:02:41,651 --> 00:02:43,421 Understand how cameras work. 52 00:02:43,421 --> 00:02:45,701 Learn to understand how lenses work. 53 00:02:45,701 --> 00:02:47,921 Don't, I think-- don't fall into the trap 54 00:02:47,921 --> 00:02:51,161 that a lot of filmmakers do early 55 00:02:51,161 --> 00:02:53,921 on when they come to it from, let's say, writing, 56 00:02:53,921 --> 00:02:55,871 or they come to it from acting. 57 00:02:55,871 --> 00:02:59,651 You know-- because there tends to be this sense of dividing 58 00:02:59,651 --> 00:03:04,931 the process of filmmaking into the humanistic, empathetic, 59 00:03:04,931 --> 00:03:06,941 sort of internal-- 60 00:03:06,941 --> 00:03:10,961 you know, actor and writing kind of side of it. 61 00:03:10,961 --> 00:03:13,791 And then there's all that technical stuff that people do. 62 00:03:13,791 --> 00:03:16,511 I think it's important to remember that first of all, 63 00:03:16,511 --> 00:03:18,911 it's a fusion of both of those sides. 64 00:03:18,911 --> 00:03:22,091 And you have to inhabit that dualism 65 00:03:22,091 --> 00:03:25,151 where you can speak to the actors, 66 00:03:25,151 --> 00:03:30,581 you can talk to the writers, you understand the inner landscape 67 00:03:30,581 --> 00:03:31,661 of all the characters. 68 00:03:31,661 --> 00:03:35,293 And at the same time, you can ask for a certain lens 69 00:03:35,293 --> 00:03:36,251 and know what it'll do. 70 00:03:36,251 --> 00:03:41,141 You can talk to the DP about a backlight, you know, a desat-- 71 00:03:41,141 --> 00:03:44,801 you know, whatever it is, whatever stylistically you're 72 00:03:44,801 --> 00:03:46,421 trying to do. 73 00:03:46,421 --> 00:03:49,421 I think it's really critical to not sort of categorize 74 00:03:49,421 --> 00:03:52,421 oneself going in as a technical filmmaker 75 00:03:52,421 --> 00:03:55,331 or humanistic filmmaker, but understand that they 76 00:03:55,331 --> 00:03:57,941 are two sides of the same coin, and you really 77 00:03:57,941 --> 00:04:01,811 can't be operating in the role of filmmaker 78 00:04:01,811 --> 00:04:04,631 without understanding both sides of those. 79 00:04:04,631 --> 00:04:08,021 And that's one of the things that I believe in and try 80 00:04:08,021 --> 00:04:12,641 to do in my own life-- not get too drawn 81 00:04:12,641 --> 00:04:14,151 into the technical side of it. 82 00:04:14,151 --> 00:04:17,599 So the more you have of the technical expertise-- 83 00:04:17,599 --> 00:04:19,391 it doesn't have to be expertise like you're 84 00:04:19,391 --> 00:04:21,491 going to go out and offer yourself 85 00:04:21,491 --> 00:04:24,671 to the industry as a top sound person or a top dolly grip 86 00:04:24,671 --> 00:04:26,141 or whatever. 87 00:04:26,141 --> 00:04:29,231 It's enough to be able to speak the language, 88 00:04:29,231 --> 00:04:31,511 because the art of film directing 89 00:04:31,511 --> 00:04:34,391 is the art of making it happen in real time, 90 00:04:34,391 --> 00:04:37,872 at that moment, when everything has come together. 91 00:04:37,872 --> 00:04:39,315 92 00:04:43,691 --> 00:04:47,271 I think people who are coming in to film these days 93 00:04:47,271 --> 00:04:49,971 are shocked to find out how much is really 94 00:04:49,971 --> 00:04:53,421 a visual effect these days, how much of maybe 95 00:04:53,421 --> 00:04:55,611 the view outside the window is entirely 96 00:04:55,611 --> 00:04:58,351 done with green screen, wasn't there at all. 97 00:04:58,351 --> 00:05:02,033 So you really can't be-- 98 00:05:02,033 --> 00:05:03,741 this is going to be a sweeping statement, 99 00:05:03,741 --> 00:05:05,449 and there will be people that reject it-- 100 00:05:05,449 --> 00:05:07,521 but it's pretty hard to be a filmmaker these days 101 00:05:07,521 --> 00:05:11,601 without being conversant with simple visual effects, 102 00:05:11,601 --> 00:05:13,161 putting something outside a window, 103 00:05:13,161 --> 00:05:15,734 putting something outside a car, that sort of thing. 104 00:05:15,734 --> 00:05:17,151 So you really need to understand-- 105 00:05:17,151 --> 00:05:19,461 you know, like right now, it may not look like it because I 106 00:05:19,461 --> 00:05:21,231 don't know what they're going to do later in composite, 107 00:05:21,231 --> 00:05:24,141 but I'm sitting on a green stage where they can put anything 108 00:05:24,141 --> 00:05:26,461 they want behind me later. 109 00:05:26,461 --> 00:05:28,311 So maybe you guys can switch that off, we 110 00:05:28,311 --> 00:05:30,891 can see that it's just a blank green stage. 111 00:05:30,891 --> 00:05:33,681 And then you can switch it back on and show what it's like, 112 00:05:33,681 --> 00:05:36,771 and maybe you didn't even know that was happening, 113 00:05:36,771 --> 00:05:38,721 or you suspected it. 114 00:05:38,721 --> 00:05:42,771 And I think it's important to know what level of realism 115 00:05:42,771 --> 00:05:43,431 is required. 116 00:05:43,431 --> 00:05:46,971 It's important to find good visual effects people. 117 00:05:46,971 --> 00:05:51,471 It's important to speak their language enough that it doesn't 118 00:05:51,471 --> 00:05:56,241 sound like Greek to you when they're talking about, 119 00:05:56,241 --> 00:05:59,291 you know, what they're going to use as a key-in color. 120 00:05:59,291 --> 00:06:00,291 Is it going to be green? 121 00:06:00,291 --> 00:06:01,249 Is it going to be blue? 122 00:06:01,249 --> 00:06:02,841 How does that affect your lighting? 123 00:06:02,841 --> 00:06:09,051 What are they going to need in terms of the on-set lining 124 00:06:09,051 --> 00:06:10,701 up of the shots, because you're going 125 00:06:10,701 --> 00:06:12,321 to be putting things in later that 126 00:06:12,321 --> 00:06:14,451 have to go in the right place. 127 00:06:14,451 --> 00:06:17,141 So you become very reliant on those people. 128 00:06:17,141 --> 00:06:18,891 And if you're not-- if you haven't come up 129 00:06:18,891 --> 00:06:21,531 in the technology of visual effects, like I did, 130 00:06:21,531 --> 00:06:24,951 for example-- because I come from the technical side-- 131 00:06:24,951 --> 00:06:26,511 you need to find good people that 132 00:06:26,511 --> 00:06:30,981 have done good work on the type of film 133 00:06:30,981 --> 00:06:32,271 that you're trying to make. 134 00:06:38,571 --> 00:06:41,451 I've heard filmmaking described, I think best, 135 00:06:41,451 --> 00:06:44,271 as you're laying track in front of a moving train. 136 00:06:44,271 --> 00:06:46,471 The train is not going to stop. 137 00:06:46,471 --> 00:06:49,731 And so the decisions that you make in that real time 138 00:06:49,731 --> 00:06:53,271 are going to be the sum total of everything 139 00:06:53,271 --> 00:06:57,051 you've learned along the way and your instinct, which I've which 140 00:06:57,051 --> 00:06:58,431 I've already talked about. 141 00:06:58,431 --> 00:07:01,941 And to a large extent, they're kind of irrevocable. 142 00:07:01,941 --> 00:07:04,731 And it's important to come prepared. 143 00:07:04,731 --> 00:07:07,221 Fortune favors the prepared mind. 144 00:07:07,221 --> 00:07:09,831 So what's your preparation-- well, you're storyboarding, 145 00:07:09,831 --> 00:07:12,136 and you're writing, and you're pre-- 146 00:07:12,136 --> 00:07:14,361 I'd don't want to say pre-visualization, 147 00:07:14,361 --> 00:07:16,221 because that's a process and it's a process 148 00:07:16,221 --> 00:07:17,263 shared with other people. 149 00:07:17,263 --> 00:07:20,481 I'm talking about your pre-imagining of the scene. 150 00:07:20,481 --> 00:07:21,801 Run that scene in your mind. 151 00:07:21,801 --> 00:07:24,111 Imagine what it can be. 152 00:07:24,111 --> 00:07:27,033 Once you're cast, imagine it with those actors. 153 00:07:27,033 --> 00:07:28,491 Maybe you don't have to imagine it. 154 00:07:28,491 --> 00:07:30,741 Maybe you do a fair bit of rehearsal, 155 00:07:30,741 --> 00:07:32,961 maybe you even tape some of the rehearsals. 156 00:07:32,961 --> 00:07:36,621 Maybe you tape the auditions and actually cut 157 00:07:36,621 --> 00:07:37,821 the scene ahead of time. 158 00:07:37,821 --> 00:07:38,871 I've done that as well. 159 00:07:38,871 --> 00:07:44,031 Cut the scene, understand your scene before you go into it. 160 00:07:44,031 --> 00:07:45,651 Know what your important scenes are, 161 00:07:45,651 --> 00:07:47,293 make sure everyone else is prepared. 162 00:07:47,293 --> 00:07:49,251 And I'm not just talking on the technical side. 163 00:07:49,251 --> 00:07:50,541 I'm talking with the actors. 164 00:07:50,541 --> 00:07:54,141 Make sure they're prepared mentally and emotionally 165 00:07:54,141 --> 00:07:56,231 for that scene and they have whatever they need. 166 00:07:56,231 --> 00:07:58,521 They've had the rehearsal time that they need 167 00:07:58,521 --> 00:08:00,481 and that they want. 168 00:08:00,481 --> 00:08:03,741 And so the more you understand the trades, the more you 169 00:08:03,741 --> 00:08:05,751 understand the craft of it-- 170 00:08:05,751 --> 00:08:09,171 work with a DP or become a DP on a low budget film. 171 00:08:09,171 --> 00:08:11,041 Understand lighting. 172 00:08:11,041 --> 00:08:12,531 So this is all the craft. 173 00:08:12,531 --> 00:08:14,631 This is the technical craft of filmmaking. 174 00:08:14,631 --> 00:08:17,301 And I think there are lots of great books on the subject. 175 00:08:17,301 --> 00:08:19,431 You can read "American Cinematographer," 176 00:08:19,431 --> 00:08:20,661 which is a good source. 177 00:08:20,661 --> 00:08:23,481 And there are other magazines, trade magazines, 178 00:08:23,481 --> 00:08:25,671 on cinematography. 179 00:08:25,671 --> 00:08:27,051 Absorb it. 180 00:08:27,051 --> 00:08:28,731 Be a sponge. 181 00:08:28,731 --> 00:08:31,251 Learn it all and make friends with people 182 00:08:31,251 --> 00:08:36,320 who are interested in those specific aspects 183 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,117 of the art, someone who is an aspiring cinematographer. 184 00:08:40,117 --> 00:08:41,700 Make friends with that person and say, 185 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:42,921 hey, let's make a film. 186 00:08:42,921 --> 00:08:46,281 Doesn't even matter-- let's just make up a story real quick 187 00:08:46,281 --> 00:08:48,861 and go make a film and experiment around, 188 00:08:48,861 --> 00:08:51,081 and get other people enthusiastic about that 189 00:08:51,081 --> 00:08:51,921 and come in. 190 00:08:51,921 --> 00:08:55,311 The only way to learn it, really, is by doing. 191 00:09:01,564 --> 00:09:03,481 I think the thing that's important to remember 192 00:09:03,481 --> 00:09:06,101 about film is that it's a collaborative meeting-- 193 00:09:06,101 --> 00:09:07,861 so it's a team, a bunch of people. 194 00:09:07,861 --> 00:09:12,341 But somebody needs to lead that team in real time. 195 00:09:12,341 --> 00:09:15,361 So the director is kind of like a war president, 196 00:09:15,361 --> 00:09:17,431 you know, in the sense that you don't have time 197 00:09:17,431 --> 00:09:18,721 to take it out of committee. 198 00:09:18,721 --> 00:09:20,971 You're dealing with stuff that's coming out you, 199 00:09:20,971 --> 00:09:24,631 1,000 questions a day, 1,000 little decisions 200 00:09:24,631 --> 00:09:26,041 a day-- do another take, don't do 201 00:09:26,041 --> 00:09:29,101 another take, do this, do that, red wardrobe, green wardrobe, 202 00:09:29,101 --> 00:09:29,791 whatever. 203 00:09:29,791 --> 00:09:32,461 So it's a system that sort of rewards, 204 00:09:32,461 --> 00:09:37,141 in a sense, a kind of autocratic system. 205 00:09:37,141 --> 00:09:39,451 And for me personally, my journey 206 00:09:39,451 --> 00:09:44,341 around the leadership of how you do this 207 00:09:44,341 --> 00:09:48,001 started with me being you kind of a tin pot 208 00:09:48,001 --> 00:09:52,911 dictator, because the movie was the most important thing. 209 00:09:52,911 --> 00:09:56,151 And everything, everybody serves the movie. 210 00:09:56,151 --> 00:09:59,941 And I was the representative of the movie. 211 00:09:59,941 --> 00:10:03,561 And so I think I was rough on people. 212 00:10:03,561 --> 00:10:05,001 I don't think I was cruel. 213 00:10:05,001 --> 00:10:07,431 I was just rough because the pace of events 214 00:10:07,431 --> 00:10:10,111 demanded it and all that sort of thing. 215 00:10:10,111 --> 00:10:12,171 But what I've learned over time is 216 00:10:12,171 --> 00:10:14,421 that people don't do their best work 217 00:10:14,421 --> 00:10:19,471 if they're not respected and appreciated and have a voice. 218 00:10:19,471 --> 00:10:24,441 And so if I've learned one thing that I 219 00:10:24,441 --> 00:10:27,001 would like to go back and do differently, 220 00:10:27,001 --> 00:10:29,151 It's not necessarily the choice of lenses 221 00:10:29,151 --> 00:10:31,521 or the choice of dialogue or anything 222 00:10:31,521 --> 00:10:33,321 within the films themselves. 223 00:10:33,321 --> 00:10:37,341 It's the nature of the working relationship. 224 00:10:37,341 --> 00:10:39,951 I could have listened more. 225 00:10:39,951 --> 00:10:42,831 I could have been less autocratic. 226 00:10:42,831 --> 00:10:44,721 I could have not made the movie more 227 00:10:44,721 --> 00:10:50,061 important than the human interaction of the crew. 228 00:10:50,061 --> 00:10:54,021 And it shouldn't be, because I think when we start out 229 00:10:54,021 --> 00:10:57,831 as filmmakers, we tend to think that the movie's the world, 230 00:10:57,831 --> 00:10:59,391 and it isn't. 231 00:10:59,391 --> 00:11:02,361 And years later, you realize, well, I'm still here, 232 00:11:02,361 --> 00:11:05,751 and all those people are still around, and the movie is-- 233 00:11:05,751 --> 00:11:07,401 everybody's forgotten it. 234 00:11:07,401 --> 00:11:09,561 You know, I think somebody like Ron Howard, who 235 00:11:09,561 --> 00:11:12,111 is innately a team player, who came up 236 00:11:12,111 --> 00:11:14,661 in the culture of a television show 237 00:11:14,661 --> 00:11:17,331 from the time he was a kid, he's great at it. 238 00:11:17,331 --> 00:11:19,851 When I first saw him work, I was dumbfounded. 239 00:11:19,851 --> 00:11:24,621 It's like, wow, he takes a lot of time complimenting people. 240 00:11:24,621 --> 00:11:27,921 You know, what's he on about here? 241 00:11:27,921 --> 00:11:33,591 And I aspire to, even to today, to try 242 00:11:33,591 --> 00:11:35,601 to be my inner Ron Howard. 243 00:11:35,601 --> 00:11:36,421 Thanks guys. 244 00:11:36,421 --> 00:11:36,991 Well done. 245 00:11:36,991 --> 00:11:38,619 Fun, fun, fun. 246 00:11:38,619 --> 00:11:40,161 And I've told him this, by the way. 247 00:11:40,161 --> 00:11:42,309 This is no secret-- 248 00:11:42,309 --> 00:11:43,851 because I think that's how it's done. 249 00:11:43,851 --> 00:11:46,071 And he's a great filmmaker, he's a fine filmmaker. 250 00:11:46,071 --> 00:11:49,053 So the two are not mutually exclusive. 251 00:11:49,053 --> 00:11:50,037 252 00:11:54,961 --> 00:11:58,791 The other aspect of leadership is you have to inspire. 253 00:11:58,791 --> 00:12:01,801 And you inspire by communicating. 254 00:12:01,801 --> 00:12:03,351 If you're not passionate about it, 255 00:12:03,351 --> 00:12:04,963 if you're kind of phoning it in or you 256 00:12:04,963 --> 00:12:06,921 don't know how to express that, or you sit back 257 00:12:06,921 --> 00:12:10,401 with a kind of a blank face, why are other people 258 00:12:10,401 --> 00:12:11,611 going to be excited about it? 259 00:12:11,611 --> 00:12:13,881 You've got to get people excited about it. 260 00:12:13,881 --> 00:12:17,204 And you-- and I don't care if it's day 100 of a shoot. 261 00:12:17,204 --> 00:12:18,621 And if you're starting out, you're 262 00:12:18,621 --> 00:12:22,504 probably a ways away from that, but trust me, you'll get there. 263 00:12:22,504 --> 00:12:24,171 I don't care if it's day 100 of a shoot. 264 00:12:24,171 --> 00:12:26,061 You got to come in with that enthusiasm. 265 00:12:26,061 --> 00:12:29,061 You got to have that lightness in your step. 266 00:12:29,061 --> 00:12:32,331 You've got to see the wonder that's happening right in front 267 00:12:32,331 --> 00:12:34,821 of you and be excited by it. 268 00:12:34,821 --> 00:12:36,351 You know-- and run in. 269 00:12:36,351 --> 00:12:38,691 I've run into a shot when the camera's still 270 00:12:38,691 --> 00:12:41,151 rolling and hugged the actor. 271 00:12:41,151 --> 00:12:43,821 You know, what you just did is fantastic. 272 00:12:43,821 --> 00:12:46,431 You know-- oh, cut, by the way. 273 00:12:46,431 --> 00:12:46,971 Share it. 274 00:12:46,971 --> 00:12:50,251 Share the joy of creation. 275 00:12:50,251 --> 00:12:55,041 And I think it takes a while to be secure enough 276 00:12:55,041 --> 00:12:56,622 to be able to do that. 277 00:12:56,622 --> 00:12:57,564 278 00:13:02,521 --> 00:13:05,581 Film is about compromise. 279 00:13:05,581 --> 00:13:07,801 It's all about compromise. 280 00:13:07,801 --> 00:13:11,221 But it's not compromising from some crystal 281 00:13:11,221 --> 00:13:12,921 vision that already exists. 282 00:13:12,921 --> 00:13:16,411 I always say it's a process of working with a group of people 283 00:13:16,411 --> 00:13:20,911 to get that picture to come more and more into focus. 284 00:13:20,911 --> 00:13:23,251 So I can use the example of creating 285 00:13:23,251 --> 00:13:26,671 elements for a fantasy world, or a science fiction 286 00:13:26,671 --> 00:13:29,791 world, and a whole bunch of designs start to come in. 287 00:13:29,791 --> 00:13:31,506 And you work with artists. 288 00:13:31,506 --> 00:13:32,881 And you look at something and you 289 00:13:32,881 --> 00:13:34,051 say, oh, that's interesting. 290 00:13:34,051 --> 00:13:35,301 I hadn't seen it that way. 291 00:13:35,301 --> 00:13:36,288 Let's pursue that idea. 292 00:13:36,288 --> 00:13:38,371 And somebody else would come with a different try, 293 00:13:38,371 --> 00:13:39,931 and say, well, that's kind of interesting too. 294 00:13:39,931 --> 00:13:40,889 Let's pursue that idea. 295 00:13:40,889 --> 00:13:43,891 At a certain point, one speaks to you 296 00:13:43,891 --> 00:13:46,951 a little more than the other and you make a decision. 297 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:50,801 And ultimately, all those decisions are binary. 298 00:13:50,801 --> 00:13:55,561 They're one or the other and they're forever. 299 00:13:55,561 --> 00:13:58,561 You know, and you can't let the forever of it weigh on you. 300 00:13:58,561 --> 00:14:00,691 You just have to make it a fun, kind 301 00:14:00,691 --> 00:14:03,901 of vigorous creative process, because the second you bog down 302 00:14:03,901 --> 00:14:04,441 on-- 303 00:14:04,441 --> 00:14:06,481 shit, what I just decided I'm going 304 00:14:06,481 --> 00:14:08,591 to have to live with for the rest of my life, 305 00:14:08,591 --> 00:14:10,051 you'll never get anywhere. 306 00:14:10,051 --> 00:14:13,291 You just have to kind of keep your heart in the game. 307 00:14:13,291 --> 00:14:14,551 You make it fun. 308 00:14:14,551 --> 00:14:16,381 You encourage other people. 309 00:14:16,381 --> 00:14:19,591 And you make decisions at a kind of instinctive level. 310 00:14:19,591 --> 00:14:23,581 But that instinct is well cultivated over time. 311 00:14:23,581 --> 00:14:27,991 It really consists of every film you've ever watched 312 00:14:27,991 --> 00:14:29,731 and either enjoyed or didn't like, 313 00:14:29,731 --> 00:14:32,191 but saw something in it that was cool-- 314 00:14:32,191 --> 00:14:36,521 every book you ever read, every dream you've ever had. 315 00:14:36,521 --> 00:14:38,071 And by dream, I don't mean ambition. 316 00:14:38,071 --> 00:14:40,981 I mean, the actual mental process 317 00:14:40,981 --> 00:14:45,571 of stringing together random images and bits of narrative 318 00:14:45,571 --> 00:14:47,701 in your head all night long every night. 319 00:14:47,701 --> 00:14:50,191 And I think that's something that one 320 00:14:50,191 --> 00:14:55,291 needs to learn to believe in, to listen to and believe in, 321 00:14:55,291 --> 00:14:58,471 because it's really the sum total of all your inputs 322 00:14:58,471 --> 00:15:03,036 and all of your likes up until that point. 323 00:15:03,036 --> 00:15:04,006 324 00:15:08,861 --> 00:15:12,851 It's people that are rabid scared and rigid, 325 00:15:12,851 --> 00:15:15,011 and holding onto their storyboards 326 00:15:15,011 --> 00:15:18,821 like this, that can't see the magic and can't incorporate it. 327 00:15:18,821 --> 00:15:20,621 So you got to get past that. 328 00:15:20,621 --> 00:15:22,151 Yes, you got to be prepared. 329 00:15:22,151 --> 00:15:23,781 You've got to come in with a plan. 330 00:15:23,781 --> 00:15:26,081 And sometimes that's the only thing 331 00:15:26,081 --> 00:15:28,421 that keeps the day going along. 332 00:15:28,421 --> 00:15:29,706 You know, go to-- 333 00:15:29,706 --> 00:15:31,331 we're doing shot five on the shot list, 334 00:15:31,331 --> 00:15:32,411 it's right here in the storyboards. 335 00:15:32,411 --> 00:15:34,828 And everybody's happy because they know what you're doing. 336 00:15:34,828 --> 00:15:36,491 But it doesn't have to be that. 337 00:15:36,491 --> 00:15:37,881 It's your film. 338 00:15:37,881 --> 00:15:39,528 You can do anything you want. 339 00:15:39,528 --> 00:15:41,861 You can take that out or you can do something different, 340 00:15:41,861 --> 00:15:44,651 or maybe the actors come in with some really cool idea, 341 00:15:44,651 --> 00:15:46,491 or something happens in rehearsal. 342 00:15:46,491 --> 00:15:51,113 Rehearsal's a great, highly fertile time to see new ideas. 343 00:15:51,113 --> 00:15:52,571 So you let the cast off their leash 344 00:15:52,571 --> 00:15:54,669 and they'll come up with all kinds of crazy stuff. 345 00:15:54,669 --> 00:15:56,711 And I've always been attracted to the actors that 346 00:15:56,711 --> 00:15:58,371 are the most inventive. 347 00:15:58,371 --> 00:16:00,371 You know, Bill Paxson being a very good example. 348 00:16:00,371 --> 00:16:02,913 He'd come in, he'd have thought for months about the dialogue 349 00:16:02,913 --> 00:16:03,671 he wanted to do. 350 00:16:03,671 --> 00:16:06,701 He'd be constantly saying, I could do this, I could do that. 351 00:16:06,701 --> 00:16:11,171 I'd throw out nine tenths of it and keep that 10%, 352 00:16:11,171 --> 00:16:13,091 and the movie was better for it. 353 00:16:13,091 --> 00:16:15,551 You know, when he says, what are we going to do now, 354 00:16:15,551 --> 00:16:17,411 we're in some real pretty shit now-- 355 00:16:17,411 --> 00:16:19,871 you know, that whole rant that he does in "Aliens," 356 00:16:19,871 --> 00:16:22,031 he just kind of riffed that up. 357 00:16:22,031 --> 00:16:26,801 You know, you got to keep your eyes open for the magic. 358 00:16:26,801 --> 00:16:31,331 And I think the most important thing is every single day, 359 00:16:31,331 --> 00:16:34,031 working with your actors, lightning is striking. 360 00:16:34,031 --> 00:16:35,266 How do you bottle it? 361 00:16:35,266 --> 00:16:36,641 How do you bottle that lightning? 362 00:16:36,641 --> 00:16:38,081 You can't predict what an actor is 363 00:16:38,081 --> 00:16:42,551 going to do or say, or just a little gesture that they do, 364 00:16:42,551 --> 00:16:46,301 or color that they add to a line that was not maybe 365 00:16:46,301 --> 00:16:47,711 the intention of the line at all, 366 00:16:47,711 --> 00:16:52,601 but it comes out of left field and all of a sudden, that fits. 367 00:16:52,601 --> 00:16:53,261 That fits. 368 00:16:53,261 --> 00:16:54,811 That's better. 369 00:16:54,811 --> 00:16:57,761 And when they sit around in film studies classes, 370 00:16:57,761 --> 00:17:01,501 and you read all the cahiers du cinema stuff, 371 00:17:01,501 --> 00:17:05,191 and they talk about all these brilliant things 372 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:08,731 that filmmakers do, they tend to forget the fact 373 00:17:08,731 --> 00:17:12,481 that most of those movies didn't have very big budgets. 374 00:17:12,481 --> 00:17:16,411 And people were just doing what they could do in the moment, 375 00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:18,541 and something great came out of it. 376 00:17:18,541 --> 00:17:22,321 It's not quite the highly precise process 377 00:17:22,321 --> 00:17:23,951 that people think it is. 378 00:17:23,951 --> 00:17:26,041 And a lot of the things that we applaud in movies 379 00:17:26,041 --> 00:17:28,051 were basically happy accidents on the day. 380 00:17:28,051 --> 00:17:29,531 And I don't want to say accidents. 381 00:17:29,531 --> 00:17:34,501 I want to say they were moments of taking the opportunity, 382 00:17:34,501 --> 00:17:36,211 seeing something happening, maybe 383 00:17:36,211 --> 00:17:39,361 some particular configuration of where the sun was 384 00:17:39,361 --> 00:17:41,426 at the location, at the time. 385 00:17:41,426 --> 00:17:43,051 And instead of doing the shot that way, 386 00:17:43,051 --> 00:17:45,361 you decide to move everything over to here 387 00:17:45,361 --> 00:17:46,831 to take advantage of it. 388 00:17:46,831 --> 00:17:49,531 All filmmaking is kind of combat in the sense 389 00:17:49,531 --> 00:17:52,921 that you're going into a highly fluid situation. 390 00:17:52,921 --> 00:17:57,601 Instead of having a defined enemy, your enemy is entropy. 391 00:17:57,601 --> 00:18:00,931 Your enemy is that tendency of the universe 392 00:18:00,931 --> 00:18:03,331 to go from a state of order to disorder. 393 00:18:03,331 --> 00:18:07,501 But you can be prepared to the extent that you have confidence 394 00:18:07,501 --> 00:18:09,461 and you have options. 395 00:18:09,461 --> 00:18:13,461 You can switch, you can switch track, you can go around. 396 00:18:13,461 --> 00:18:17,191 I mean, I think of filmmaking like water flowing inevitably 397 00:18:17,191 --> 00:18:17,691 downhill. 398 00:18:17,691 --> 00:18:20,781 It goes around rocks, doesn't go through, 399 00:18:20,781 --> 00:18:22,731 so you've got to go around the obstacles. 400 00:18:22,731 --> 00:18:25,391 You've got to be that flowing water. 348482

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