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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,501 --> 00:00:02,211 (male narrator) In the criminal justice system... 2 00:00:02,377 --> 00:00:06,131 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: 3 00:00:06,298 --> 00:00:08,91 the police who investigate crime... 4 00:00:08,258 --> 00:00:10,886 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,53 --> 00:00:12,554 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,473 --> 00:00:16,141 [people chattering] 7 00:00:17,976 --> 00:00:19,561 (Wallengren) Nurse, it's been an hour. 8 00:00:19,728 --> 00:00:21,980 Maybe | should have called a hearse, skip the middleman. 9 00:00:22,147 --> 00:00:24,66 Nobody ever died of whiplash, Mr. Wallengren. 10 00:00:24,233 --> 00:00:26,151 Look, | got Blue Cross, | got Blue Shield. 11 00:00:26,318 --> 00:00:28,445 What do | gotta do to get my wife in to see 3 doctor? 12 00:00:28,612 --> 00:00:29,488 We're doing our best. 13 00:00:29,655 --> 00:00:32,74 You want to complain, fax it to Hillary. 14 00:00:32,241 --> 00:00:33,575 [phone ringing] 15 00:00:33,909 --> 00:00:35,744 Get you another ice pack. 16 00:00:38,413 --> 00:00:41,833 It's gonna take another 15 minutes, | don't know. 17 00:00:43,293 --> 00:00:45,629 What are you doing? I'll get it. 18 00:00:46,338 --> 00:00:47,548 Holly... 19 00:00:49,967 --> 00:00:51,176 Nurse! 20 00:00:53,554 --> 00:00:54,888 Name's Debra Elkins. 21 00:00:55,55 --> 00:00:57,683 Twenty-two. Her driver's license is from upstate. Poughkeepsie. 22 00:00:57,849 --> 00:00:59,726 She gonna make it to 23? 23 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:01,937 She must have lost two and a half pints of blood. 24 00:01:02,104 --> 00:01:03,146 BP was way down. 25 00:01:03,313 --> 00:01:05,65 She was lucky that we found her when we did. 26 00:01:05,232 --> 00:01:07,985 Wait. What do mean, you found her? It was a zoo in here. 27 00:01:08,151 --> 00:01:10,112 One of the patients noticed her. She was alone. 28 00:01:10,279 --> 00:01:11,613 Unconscious and hemorrhaging. 29 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:14,32 What do you think, her boyfriend got fancy with a knife? 30 00:01:14,199 --> 00:01:15,993 | first assumed it was with a coat hanger. 31 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:18,620 A botched third trimester abortion. 32 00:01:18,787 --> 00:01:21,164 But her hemorrhage is a postpartum complication. 33 00:01:21,331 --> 00:01:22,291 So she gave birth. 34 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:25,836 Not easily, I'm afraid. Her uterus is grossly over-distended. 35 00:01:26,03 --> 00:01:29,381 We have her on IV. Oxytocin. She'll be all right. 36 00:01:29,548 --> 00:01:33,10 Okay, so why are we here? Where's the baby? 37 00:02:28,315 --> 00:02:32,694 The doctor said it wasn't supposed to happen... 38 00:02:33,111 --> 00:02:34,988 for another two weeks. 39 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,243 My mom gave me some money... 40 00:02:41,453 --> 00:02:46,83 and | was in town for the day buying baby clothes. 41 00:02:47,417 --> 00:02:49,02 You don't remember giving birth? 42 00:02:52,506 --> 00:02:55,759 Well, | went and took a walk after dinner... 43 00:02:56,677 --> 00:02:59,554 and | got these sharp pains. 44 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:03,684 | didn't know what to do. 45 00:03:04,893 --> 00:03:06,186 This man... 46 00:03:07,312 --> 00:03:09,481 he put me in a taxi. 47 00:03:12,359 --> 00:03:14,361 | must've passed out. 48 00:03:15,153 --> 00:03:17,906 Did your husband come down here with you? 49 00:03:19,408 --> 00:03:21,76 I'm not married. 50 00:03:21,243 --> 00:03:23,245 Well, the baby's father. 51 00:03:24,663 --> 00:03:27,40 | was raped at work. 52 00:03:30,836 --> 00:03:32,629 It's still my baby. 53 00:03:33,463 --> 00:03:36,258 Do you think you'd remember that cab driver? 54 00:03:40,637 --> 00:03:43,473 What kind of person steals someone's baby? 55 00:03:46,101 --> 00:03:47,769 I've been through two births. 56 00:03:47,936 --> 00:03:50,814 | remember every push and squeeze. I'll tell you what... 57 00:03:50,981 --> 00:03:53,108 passing out is the impossible dream. 58 00:03:53,275 --> 00:03:55,569 This girl's story does not jive. 59 00:03:55,736 --> 00:03:58,947 What are you saying, she took an hour bus ride to dump the kid in an alley? 60 00:03:59,114 --> 00:04:03,660 Read the stats. Last year, 11,000 abandoned babies in New York alone. 61 00:04:03,827 --> 00:04:07,581 Most of whose mothers spend their days on the short end of a crack pipe. 62 00:04:07,748 --> 00:04:09,791 This girl's tox report is negative. 63 00:04:09,958 --> 00:04:11,752 You said she was raped, right? 64 00:04:11,918 --> 00:04:15,589 Maybe she's not as happy about maternity as she would have us believe. 65 00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:17,299 Well, there are other alternatives. 66 00:04:17,466 --> 00:04:21,762 Yes, well, maybe not everyone's as enlightened as you are, Mike. 67 00:04:21,928 --> 00:04:24,389 It's our lucky day. Struck gold, fifth try. 68 00:04:24,556 --> 00:04:27,100 Last night, a hack from Madison Taxi turns in a cab. 69 00:04:27,267 --> 00:04:29,478 Back seat covered with blood. 70 00:04:34,232 --> 00:04:35,525 (Greenberg) They're all animals. 71 00:04:35,692 --> 00:04:38,487 They think for a $5 fare they rent a toilet. 72 00:04:38,653 --> 00:04:41,239 They don't care what kind of garbage they leave in the back seat. 73 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:44,451 Yeah, well, is this particular garbage new? 74 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:48,371 Hey, just because | live in a sty doesn't mean I'm a pig. 75 00:04:48,538 --> 00:04:51,291 We clean up after every shift. It's good for the Midtown trade. 76 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:53,752 Okay, so who was driving this car last night? 77 00:04:54,252 --> 00:04:56,588 The Russki. Alex Walinsky. 78 00:04:56,755 --> 00:04:58,298 We're gonna need an address. 79 00:04:58,465 --> 00:05:01,384 Yeah, let me see. Here you go. 80 00:05:01,551 --> 00:05:03,345 102 East 16th. 81 00:05:03,512 --> 00:05:06,598 He should be there. He called in sick. 82 00:05:07,766 --> 00:05:11,561 If he doesn't recover by tomorrow, you tell him, don't bother. 83 00:05:20,654 --> 00:05:23,198 Alex Walinsky? Yes. 84 00:05:23,365 --> 00:05:24,783 [baby crying] 85 00:05:25,325 --> 00:05:27,702 What's this? | did nothing wrong. Yeah? 86 00:05:27,869 --> 00:05:31,164 Well, there's a new mother with tubes up her nose who might disagree. 87 00:05:33,542 --> 00:05:35,877 If he's a day old, call the Guinness Book of Records. 88 00:05:36,44 --> 00:05:38,797 What are you doing with my son? Here, take him. 89 00:05:38,964 --> 00:05:41,925 What did you do with the kid you found in your cab? 90 00:05:42,92 --> 00:05:43,927 Kid’? (Logan) We saw your car. 91 00:05:44,94 --> 00:05:46,221 Your last fare didn't have a nosebleed. 92 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:49,349 That girl, she was sick. 93 00:05:49,516 --> 00:05:51,768 She told me to take her to the hospital. 94 00:05:51,935 --> 00:05:54,437 Do you remember where you picked the girl up? 95 00:05:56,22 --> 00:05:58,24 On Lexington, in the 30s. 96 00:05:58,191 --> 00:05:59,818 In front of St. Paul Hotel. 97 00:05:59,985 --> 00:06:02,404 | swear to you, there was no baby. 98 00:06:04,865 --> 00:06:08,785 If Dr. Zhivago's telling the truth maybe Van Buren was right. 99 00:06:09,536 --> 00:06:13,81 | don't Know, you gotta be awful desperate to dump a kid. 100 00:06:13,248 --> 00:06:16,751 This from a guy who spent the last 20 years trying to avoid fatherhood? 101 00:06:16,918 --> 00:06:18,461 Hey, back off, all right? 102 00:06:18,628 --> 00:06:21,131 | didn't want the abortion, she did. 103 00:06:22,799 --> 00:06:25,385 Okay, a girl comes to town for one day's shopping. 104 00:06:25,552 --> 00:06:27,721 Does she check into a hotel? 105 00:06:27,888 --> 00:06:32,183 Let's hope the kid's watching Sesame Street and ordering room service. 106 00:06:32,517 --> 00:06:33,560 [elevator bell dinging] 107 00:06:33,727 --> 00:06:35,20 Sure, | got her a cab. 108 00:06:35,186 --> 00:06:38,231 She was white as a sheet. Looked like she was about to pass out. 109 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:39,941 She okay? She'll live. 110 00:06:40,108 --> 00:06:42,193 She have a baby with her when you put her in that cab? 111 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,361 No. 112 00:06:44,529 --> 00:06:46,656 What the hell happened here? 113 00:06:47,449 --> 00:06:49,993 My guess, the miracle of childbirth. 114 00:06:56,708 --> 00:06:59,753 There's more blood in the bathroom. Look at this. 115 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,47 Briscoe. Yeah, I'm gonna need a CSU unit. 116 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:03,548 St. Paul Hotel, 38th and Lexington. 117 00:07:03,715 --> 00:07:04,925 You sure you didn't see a baby? 118 00:07:05,91 --> 00:07:06,384 No. Just the two of them. 119 00:07:06,551 --> 00:07:09,179 The two of them? The boyfriend. He checked in with her. 120 00:07:10,388 --> 00:07:12,15 Shaw, Steven J. 121 00:07:12,182 --> 00:07:14,59 Said he wasn't staying but... 122 00:07:14,225 --> 00:07:17,479 a couple of kids paying cash, | take everybody's name just to make sure. 123 00:07:17,646 --> 00:07:19,731 You keep phone records? Yeah. 124 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:24,235 | don't know what you're talking about. 125 00:07:24,402 --> 00:07:27,447 Come on. You told us you were in town for the day. 126 00:07:27,614 --> 00:07:29,783 You've been in a hotel since last Tuesday. 127 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:31,701 You told us you were in town alone... 128 00:07:31,868 --> 00:07:33,703 and then we find out your boyfriend's with you. 129 00:07:33,870 --> 00:07:36,790 What difference does any of this make? 130 00:07:37,165 --> 00:07:39,209 My baby's still missing. 131 00:07:39,376 --> 00:07:41,378 It's all these lies, Debra. 132 00:07:41,544 --> 00:07:44,255 It makes us think that maybe you know where your baby is. 133 00:07:44,422 --> 00:07:47,717 If | knew, why wouldn't | tell you? 134 00:07:48,969 --> 00:07:50,971 Where's your friend Shaw? 135 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:56,142 He stayed with me one night, then he went back home. 136 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:59,270 Yeah, well, the problem is there's no Steven Shaw listed ... 137 00:07:59,437 --> 00:08:01,272 in the Poughkeepsie phone book. 138 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:03,66 [knocking on door] 139 00:08:06,611 --> 00:08:08,321 They ran the hotel's phone records. 140 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:12,409 This girl made 14 calls to her voicemail in Poughkeepsie. 141 00:08:12,575 --> 00:08:16,162 She's got a lot of friends? She made one local call. 142 00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:19,624 William Wendyll, attorney at law. 143 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:26,339 Debbie Elkins. One of the young, the poor, the pregnant. 144 00:08:26,506 --> 00:08:28,466 Well, not anymore. She gave birth two days ago. 145 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:29,634 Good for her. 146 00:08:29,801 --> 00:08:31,469 But it's really not my problem anymore. 147 00:08:31,636 --> 00:08:32,637 Was it ever? 148 00:08:32,804 --> 00:08:35,265 When my clients were in the running, it certainly was. 149 00:08:35,432 --> 00:08:38,393 Well, wait, let's just back up a couple of steps. 150 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:42,355 My business is adoptions. | help my clients find these girls. 151 00:08:43,106 --> 00:08:46,818 | screen out the kooks, and in one out of every eight cases... 152 00:08:46,985 --> 00:08:50,30 | help them through the system. | thought Debbie was one of the good ones. 153 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:51,448 Goes to show. 154 00:08:51,614 --> 00:08:54,325 She called me a couple of days ago, and she changed her mind. 155 00:08:54,492 --> 00:08:56,745 She said that she wanted to keep her baby. 156 00:08:56,911 --> 00:08:58,913 (Logan) Looks like she didn't do a very good job. 157 00:08:59,80 --> 00:09:00,915 Let me ask you something. 158 00:09:01,82 --> 00:09:04,127 You get paid only on delivery, right? 159 00:09:04,294 --> 00:09:06,921 Sure. Why? Just thinking. 160 00:09:07,88 --> 00:09:08,256 Debbie's kid's missing. 161 00:09:08,423 --> 00:09:11,760 Maybe one of your clients did an end run around your legal fee. 162 00:09:11,926 --> 00:09:12,886 [chuckles] 163 00:09:13,53 --> 00:09:15,638 Are you kidding? Those people are loaded. 164 00:09:15,805 --> 00:09:16,806 My fee is meaningless. 165 00:09:16,973 --> 00:09:20,185 Did Elkins ever mention a Steven Shaw? 166 00:09:20,351 --> 00:09:23,980 Look, Detectives, these girls are very skittish. 167 00:09:24,481 --> 00:09:26,107 They just don't open up to lawyers. 168 00:09:26,274 --> 00:09:30,403 Yeah, sure, but they spend a lot of time with their clients, right? 169 00:09:30,737 --> 00:09:32,655 That is attorney-client privilege. 170 00:09:34,157 --> 00:09:38,36 We're investigating kidnapping and child endangerment, Counselor. 171 00:09:38,203 --> 00:09:40,121 If you hinder prosecution, we'll come back. .. 172 00:09:40,288 --> 00:09:43,416 with material witness warrants for your clients. 173 00:09:47,629 --> 00:09:49,172 Stephanie. (Stephanie) Yes, sir? 174 00:09:49,339 --> 00:09:51,966 Get the Savitts on the phone, please. 175 00:09:56,96 --> 00:09:59,349 First, it was our careers, then, it was financial security... 176 00:09:59,516 --> 00:10:03,394 then, emotional security, and by the time we were ready.... 177 00:10:03,561 --> 00:10:07,774 We tried fertility drugs, in vitro, everything. 178 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:11,69 We thought Debbie was finally the one. We sure did. 179 00:10:11,236 --> 00:10:13,238 Let me show you something. 180 00:10:18,743 --> 00:10:21,79 We did exactly what Bill Wendyll told us. 181 00:10:21,246 --> 00:10:25,41 We put ads in college newspapers, in regional papers in the southeast. 182 00:10:25,208 --> 00:10:27,752 (Gwen) "Our hearts are open to receive your baby. 183 00:10:27,919 --> 00:10:30,171 "We have so much love to give. Please call." 184 00:10:30,338 --> 00:10:34,08 We had an 800 number installed. We received calls every day. 185 00:10:34,175 --> 00:10:36,594 Debra was the seventh girl we interviewed. 186 00:10:36,761 --> 00:10:38,972 She got our number from the school paper at Hudson. 187 00:10:39,139 --> 00:10:42,559 She said she was a rape victim, someone that she worked with. 188 00:10:42,725 --> 00:10:44,769 We felt so sorry for her. 189 00:10:44,936 --> 00:10:48,481 | don't mean to be crass, but we spent a lot of effort and money on this girl. 190 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:51,943 You put her on salary? She was carrying our child. 191 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:55,572 We wanted to make sure she had good nutrition, proper medical care. 192 00:10:55,738 --> 00:10:56,865 We felt she deserved it. 193 00:10:57,31 --> 00:10:59,826 Did she ever talk about somebody named Shaw? 194 00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:02,662 She had us make a check out once to a Steven Shaw. 195 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:04,164 She told us he was her landlord. 196 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:07,208 You still have that cancelled check? Yeah. 197 00:11:12,547 --> 00:11:16,50 When you find the baby, could you give us a call? 198 00:11:17,177 --> 00:11:18,344 Ma'am, please. 199 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:21,347 It would mean so much to me. To both of us. 200 00:11:24,17 --> 00:11:26,644 Yeah, | know people want kids. But advertising? 201 00:11:26,811 --> 00:11:28,605 800 numbers? It's a little nuts. 202 00:11:28,771 --> 00:11:30,690 Hey, there's two kinds of people in this world. 203 00:11:30,857 --> 00:11:34,402 Those with kids, and those without. That's right, Pops. 204 00:11:35,28 --> 00:11:36,29 Yo. 205 00:11:36,404 --> 00:11:38,323 Okay, go. 206 00:11:40,450 --> 00:11:42,452 Right. Got it. 207 00:11:43,119 --> 00:11:45,580 What? You're kidding me. 208 00:11:47,582 --> 00:11:49,542 Okay. Thanks. 209 00:11:51,85 --> 00:11:52,962 | got Shaw's address in Poughkeepsie. 210 00:11:53,129 --> 00:11:54,422 Oh, good, a road trip to Hudson. 211 00:11:54,589 --> 00:11:56,216 Haven't done one of those since college. 212 00:11:56,382 --> 00:11:57,884 Don't pack your rubbers yet. 213 00:11:58,51 --> 00:12:01,804 The bank said they wired $10,000 out of his account to Western Union... 214 00:12:01,971 --> 00:12:03,181 in Midtown this morning. 215 00:12:03,348 --> 00:12:05,391 Well, that'll buy the baby some formula. 216 00:12:06,517 --> 00:12:09,771 (clerk) Here we go. The wire transfer arrived at 1:00. 217 00:12:09,938 --> 00:12:12,106 Mr. Shaw signed for it at 1:40. 218 00:12:12,273 --> 00:12:14,108 Do you remember if he had a baby with him? 219 00:12:14,275 --> 00:12:15,276 Sorry, a lot of business today. 220 00:12:15,443 --> 00:12:18,29 Come on, what're you doing up there, balancing a checkbook? 221 00:12:18,196 --> 00:12:19,113 That's right. 222 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,324 And when we're finished, you'll know. 223 00:12:23,34 --> 00:12:26,204 By any chance, did Mr. Shaw leave a local address? 224 00:12:27,288 --> 00:12:31,00 It says here, "When wire is received, call him at the Lowery Hotel." 225 00:12:31,542 --> 00:12:32,710 (Briscoe) Thank you. 226 00:12:46,15 --> 00:12:48,184 Who are you? (Briscoe) We ask the questions. 227 00:12:48,351 --> 00:12:50,853 Are you Steven J. Shaw? Yeah. So what? 228 00:12:51,20 --> 00:12:51,980 [baby crying] 229 00:12:52,146 --> 00:12:54,816 Hey, what the hell's going on? Shut up. 230 00:12:54,983 --> 00:12:56,442 [baby babbling] 231 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:58,27 Okay. 232 00:12:58,194 --> 00:12:59,737 (Steven) What do you think you're doing? 233 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:00,822 Our favorite thing. 234 00:13:00,989 --> 00:13:02,407 Steven Shaw, you're under arrest. 235 00:13:02,573 --> 00:13:05,493 Hi, this is Det. Logan. I'm in Room 512 at the Lowery Hotel. 236 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:09,247 Have an ambulance respond to a newborn male. 237 00:13:09,622 --> 00:13:11,624 You have the right to an attorney. 238 00:13:11,791 --> 00:13:14,794 If you cannot afford one, one will be provided for you. 239 00:13:24,846 --> 00:13:27,98 (Logan) You're not Debra's landlord. 240 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:29,350 You're not her husband. 241 00:13:31,769 --> 00:13:34,314 You're not even the kid's father. 242 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,567 So what were you doing in a hotel room with the baby? 243 00:13:37,734 --> 00:13:39,235 | told you. 244 00:13:39,402 --> 00:13:42,905 | am her boyfriend. You're quite a lady's man, Steven. 245 00:13:43,614 --> 00:13:46,367 You always let your girlfriends bleed half to death in a cab? 246 00:13:46,534 --> 00:13:48,661 She wanted me to stay with the baby. 247 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:51,622 There's plenty of room in that taxi for all three of you. 248 00:13:53,249 --> 00:13:56,294 | understand the jam you're in. It's not your kid. 249 00:13:56,461 --> 00:13:59,422 You wanted her to give it up, she didn't want to. You two had a fight. 250 00:13:59,589 --> 00:14:01,883 | didn't care that she had been raped. 251 00:14:02,50 --> 00:14:03,593 We both wanted the baby, all right? 252 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,887 Hey, if it was me, and | found out she was pregnant... 253 00:14:06,54 --> 00:14:07,680 man, | would've grabbed my hat and split. 254 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:09,849 You know, | don't know what you're talking about. 255 00:14:10,16 --> 00:14:11,434 | want to talk to Debbie. 256 00:14:11,601 --> 00:14:14,937 Listen, dumping that kid somewhere was gonna make yout life... 257 00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:17,607 a hell of a lot easier, wasn't it? You're wrong, man, all right? 258 00:14:17,774 --> 00:14:19,650 Just ask Debbie. You'll see. 259 00:14:20,818 --> 00:14:22,862 Jeez, this is bad. 260 00:14:25,907 --> 00:14:28,117 What are you hassling me for? 261 00:14:28,659 --> 00:14:30,203 | didn't do anything wrong. 262 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:33,289 You know what really pisses me off, Debbie? 263 00:14:33,456 --> 00:14:37,377 Some little bitch wasting three days of my life. 264 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,380 So you gonna arrest me for it? 265 00:14:40,546 --> 00:14:43,424 No. But how about child abandonment? That's pretty serious. 266 00:14:43,591 --> 00:14:45,843 What abandonment? | left him with Steven. 267 00:14:46,10 --> 00:14:48,930 Okay, so we'll add endangerment to the list. 268 00:14:49,97 --> 00:14:50,681 He'd never hurt the baby. 269 00:14:50,848 --> 00:14:52,683 After all the lying you've done... 270 00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:54,977 who do you think the judge is gonna believe? 271 00:14:55,144 --> 00:14:56,854 What do you want from me? 272 00:14:57,21 --> 00:14:59,941 For starters? Why are you jerking us around? 273 00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:03,236 Forget it, Mike. 274 00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:06,906 We'll just throw both of them in the can and let the DAs sort it out. 275 00:15:07,73 --> 00:15:09,450 The kid's gonna wind up in foster care anyway. 276 00:15:09,617 --> 00:15:12,578 Here we go again, man, just like the last time. 277 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:15,81 Those bastards at Child Welfare. 278 00:15:15,915 --> 00:15:17,834 They said | was unfit. 279 00:15:19,293 --> 00:15:21,421 They took my daughter away. 280 00:15:22,296 --> 00:15:24,841 | wasn't gonna let that happen again. 281 00:15:30,721 --> 00:15:33,141 What do you want me to do? There's no crime here. 282 00:15:33,307 --> 00:15:36,477 She intentionally interfered with a police investigation. 283 00:15:36,644 --> 00:15:37,728 That'd get her six months. 284 00:15:37,895 --> 00:15:40,648 And you know a judge who'd put her in prison with a newborn? 285 00:15:40,815 --> 00:15:43,109 Forget about it, Lennie. (Logan) She's just a kid. 286 00:15:43,276 --> 00:15:46,362 She got screwed by the system once. Who can blame her for lying to us? 287 00:15:46,779 --> 00:15:49,991 Child Welfare was right the first time. She's garbage. 288 00:15:50,158 --> 00:15:52,326 I'll tell you what. We let her go, we might as well... 289 00:15:52,493 --> 00:15:54,495 get a head start and arrest the baby right now. 290 00:15:54,662 --> 00:15:56,414 [phone ringing] 291 00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:58,833 Van Buren. Yes, they're here. 292 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:02,587 When? Thanks. 293 00:16:03,588 --> 00:16:05,214 The Foundling Hospital just called. 294 00:16:05,381 --> 00:16:08,885 Someone walked out the front door with the Elkins baby. 295 00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:17,59 (Sheridan) First, | took care of the screamers. 296 00:16:17,226 --> 00:16:18,853 Add formula, change the diapers. 297 00:16:19,20 --> 00:16:21,355 Then, | counted the sleepers. One short. 298 00:16:21,522 --> 00:16:24,233 Well, the report said the baby was taken early this morning. 299 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,444 She had authorization papers. 300 00:16:26,611 --> 00:16:28,779 What does that mean, the kidnapper had a hall pass? 301 00:16:28,946 --> 00:16:32,408 Authorization for transfer to Victoria General, where the mother is. 302 00:16:32,575 --> 00:16:35,244 It all looked kosher until the baby's blood work-up came in... 303 00:16:35,411 --> 00:16:36,454 about an hour ago. 304 00:16:36,621 --> 00:16:39,707 Kid's allergic to formula, so | called Victoria to tell them. 305 00:16:39,874 --> 00:16:42,335 And the baby never showed. Right. 306 00:16:43,961 --> 00:16:46,547 She gave me all the correct forms with all the signatures. 307 00:16:46,714 --> 00:16:48,132 Everything was in order. 308 00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:50,468 So somebody walks in waving the right paperwork... 309 00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:51,844 and you just give them a baby? 310 00:16:52,11 --> 00:16:53,262 But she was a nurse. 311 00:16:53,429 --> 00:16:56,974 | mean, she showed me her state card. Dorothy Hemmerick. 312 00:16:57,308 --> 00:17:00,436 Dorothy Hemmerick? Do you know what she looks like? 313 00:17:01,771 --> 00:17:05,483 She was a white lady, as old as you. 314 00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:10,613 Not so tall. Dirty blonde hair and green eyes. 315 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:14,325 She came in at 5:30 in the morning. Isn't that 3 little before office hours? 316 00:17:14,492 --> 00:17:16,744 But she knew everything about the little baby. 317 00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:19,247 | mean, she even knew the mother's name. 318 00:17:19,413 --> 00:17:23,584 When she saw his hazel eyes, she said they looked just like the mother's. 319 00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:27,421 lam so sorry. 320 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:31,259 Please tell the mother that | am so sorry. 321 00:17:32,218 --> 00:17:35,721 (Briscoe) Hey, she knew what color eyes you have. 322 00:17:36,138 --> 00:17:37,223 What, you think we're involved? 323 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:39,141 You got a reason why we shouldn't think it? 324 00:17:39,308 --> 00:17:43,312 She said she was a nurse, and she knew everything about you and the baby. 325 00:17:43,479 --> 00:17:44,689 Nurse? 326 00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:47,650 That crazy bitch. 327 00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:50,444 It had to be Mrs. Baxter. 328 00:17:50,611 --> 00:17:52,530 You people want to give us a hint here? 329 00:17:53,447 --> 00:17:55,241 We interviewed her about adopting the baby. 330 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:57,326 Wait a minute, what about the Savitts? 331 00:17:57,493 --> 00:17:59,996 | talked to them after the Baxters. 332 00:18:01,289 --> 00:18:03,457 | Knew that woman was crazy. 333 00:18:07,44 --> 00:18:08,838 Come on, let's go, open up. 334 00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:12,883 Are you Herbert Baxter? Yeah. 335 00:18:13,50 --> 00:18:14,427 Okay, we're executing a search warrant. 336 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,596 | don't understand. Stand aside and be quiet. 337 00:18:16,762 --> 00:18:18,431 What's this about? 338 00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:24,478 Well, at least tell me what you're looking for. 339 00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:33,738 | suppose this is for a dog. 340 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:37,116 Where's the baby, Mr. Baxter? 341 00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:39,535 | don't know what you're talking about. We don't have a baby. 342 00:18:39,702 --> 00:18:40,453 (Briscoe) Where's your wife? 343 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,204 What does my wife have to do with it? 344 00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:43,873 Dorothy Hemmerick. Is that her maiden name? 345 00:18:44,40 --> 00:18:46,459 What the hell is going on? Never mind what's going on. 346 00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:48,85 Just tell us where she is. 347 00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:55,92 She said she was going to her sister's house in Queens. 348 00:18:55,843 --> 00:18:57,261 [knocking on door] 349 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,932 Dorothy Baxter? No, I'm her sister. 350 00:19:02,99 --> 00:19:03,392 Dorie! 351 00:19:04,101 --> 00:19:05,478 Dorothy Baxter? (Dorothy) Yes. 352 00:19:05,645 --> 00:19:07,605 Dorothy Baxter, you're under arrest for kidnapping. 353 00:19:07,772 --> 00:19:09,273 No, this is my baby though. 354 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,317 Ma’am, I'm gonna ask you to give up the baby. 355 00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:12,443 No, | can't. 356 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:14,320 (Briscoe) Go right ahead. Please. No. 357 00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:15,696 Just let go. It's all right. 358 00:19:15,863 --> 00:19:17,198 It's my baby though. 359 00:19:17,365 --> 00:19:19,158 I'm telling you. All right. 360 00:19:19,325 --> 00:19:20,201 Okay. 361 00:19:20,368 --> 00:19:22,119 Be careful, please. (Briscoe) Okay. 362 00:19:23,704 --> 00:19:24,580 [sobbing] 363 00:19:24,747 --> 00:19:26,957 You have the right to remain silent. Anything you do say... 364 00:19:27,124 --> 00:19:28,709 can and will be used against you. 365 00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:35,424 My wife is not a kidnapper. Right. 366 00:19:35,591 --> 00:19:37,885 She just borrowed the kid for the afternoon. 367 00:19:38,52 --> 00:19:40,680 Jeffrey is my baby. Dorothy, please. 368 00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:46,477 I'm Morris Hoffman. I'm attorney of record for Dorothy Baxter. 369 00:19:47,19 --> 00:19:49,397 I'd like any interrogation of my client to stop immediately. 370 00:19:49,563 --> 00:19:51,190 (Logan) You're a little late, Counselor. 371 00:19:51,357 --> 00:19:53,442 She admits she took the baby from the nursery. 372 00:19:53,609 --> 00:19:56,987 Well, if she did, she's well within her rights. It's their baby. 373 00:19:57,154 --> 00:19:59,156 They have a contract with Debra Elkins. 374 00:20:04,995 --> 00:20:07,915 You hear the whole story, Ben, | guarantee you'll call off the dogs. 375 00:20:08,82 --> 00:20:09,375 Mrs. Baxter's good people. 376 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:11,502 Since when do good people steal babies? 377 00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:14,130 Well, when they honestly believe they're entitled. 378 00:20:14,296 --> 00:20:17,383 Look, Ben, Ms. Elkins answered the Baxter's ad. .. 379 00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:20,428 in the Hudson College newspaper. She took their money. 380 00:20:20,594 --> 00:20:21,971 You're saying they bought the baby? 381 00:20:22,138 --> 00:20:24,557 They paid her reasonable medical expenses. 382 00:20:24,724 --> 00:20:26,350 Private adoption, Ben. 383 00:20:26,517 --> 00:20:29,103 Everything was done by the book. Then the girl reneged. 384 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:31,439 Is this in writing? Well, Ms. Elkins made a promise. 385 00:20:31,605 --> 00:20:33,649 Mrs. Baxter relied to her detriment. 386 00:20:33,816 --> 00:20:36,527 There are no signatures involved? Come on, Counselor. 387 00:20:36,694 --> 00:20:40,573 You want to talk validity of an oral contract, give Kim Basinger a call. 388 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:43,284 Even if we assume they had a valid contract... 389 00:20:43,451 --> 00:20:46,829 you can't complete an adoption by snatching a baby out of foster care. 390 00:20:46,996 --> 00:20:50,374 Having a family is my wife's whole life, Mr. Stone. 391 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:54,962 Ten years ago she had a miscarriage, followed by a hysterectomy. 392 00:20:55,129 --> 00:20:56,505 Debbie Elkins isn't the first one. 393 00:20:56,672 --> 00:20:59,633 We've been through this four times in the past six years. 394 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,52 The girls either decide to keep the baby... 395 00:21:02,219 --> 00:21:04,138 or give it to somebody with a bigger apartment. 396 00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:06,265 Does that justify kidnapping? 397 00:21:08,684 --> 00:21:11,103 | can't even bail her out of jail. 398 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,940 They took every penny we had. This was our last chance. 399 00:21:15,524 --> 00:21:18,319 Mr. Stone, what my wife did may have been wrong... 400 00:21:18,486 --> 00:21:21,947 but you have got to understand, she is not a criminal. 401 00:21:22,865 --> 00:21:24,950 She didn't mean to hurt anybody. 402 00:21:25,451 --> 00:21:28,162 (Hoffman) Bottom line, Ben, the woman shapped. 403 00:21:28,662 --> 00:21:31,165 Call it insanity, call it diminished capacity. 404 00:21:31,332 --> 00:21:35,419 Look, if you don't buy this contract theory, can't you take the blinders off? 405 00:21:35,586 --> 00:21:37,421 Let a little compassion shine through? 406 00:21:37,588 --> 00:21:40,466 Do us all a favor, let your expert have a go at her. 407 00:21:46,597 --> 00:21:49,809 Thanksgiving was always my favorite. Yeah. 408 00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:52,394 | Know that some people like Christmas, you know. 409 00:21:52,561 --> 00:21:56,607 But for me, with the whole family sitting around the table and everything. 410 00:21:57,566 --> 00:21:59,735 I've always thanked God for my family. 411 00:22:00,277 --> 00:22:01,779 Did you have a big family? 412 00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:06,200 | have three brothers, two sisters, seven nephews, five nieces. 413 00:22:09,245 --> 00:22:10,871 That's what life's about. 414 00:22:12,456 --> 00:22:15,292 People say that that's not the only thing, you know, but of course... 415 00:22:15,459 --> 00:22:17,378 they're the ones who have children. 416 00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:19,922 Yeah. And | don't know how they could say that... 417 00:22:20,89 --> 00:22:22,216 because when | held Jeffrey... 418 00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:27,179 | could feel his breath right on my cheek. It was beautiful. 419 00:22:28,13 --> 00:22:31,600 Do you have children? I've never been married. 420 00:22:33,435 --> 00:22:34,895 You can still hope. 421 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,28 | used to have fainting spells, and | used to have morning sickness. 422 00:22:43,571 --> 00:22:47,950 And sometimes, | even thought | could hear the baby or feel the baby kicking. 423 00:22:50,327 --> 00:22:52,955 The doctors call that the haunted womb syndrome. 424 00:22:53,122 --> 00:22:55,916 It's very common after a miscarriage. 425 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:58,711 Every morning onh my way to work... 426 00:22:59,461 --> 00:23:02,256 | walk five blocks out of my way, so that | do not have to see. .. 427 00:23:02,423 --> 00:23:04,466 the children on their way to PS 3. 428 00:23:04,925 --> 00:23:06,844 And if | see a baby carriage... 429 00:23:07,803 --> 00:23:10,139 the only thing | want to do is run and hide. 430 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:14,59 It's only natural, Dorothy. No! 431 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:15,394 No. 432 00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:18,731 What's natural is having a baby. That's what's natural. 433 00:23:22,318 --> 00:23:25,70 | have been through this SO many times. 434 00:23:25,779 --> 00:23:29,199 That girl told me that she wanted me to have that baby. 435 00:23:30,451 --> 00:23:31,952 It's not fair. 436 00:23:33,287 --> 00:23:35,372 (Olivet) The woman's certainly been through the wringer. 437 00:23:35,539 --> 00:23:38,292 There's only so much frustration any psyche can take. 438 00:23:38,459 --> 00:23:41,03 You're saying she honestly didn't know what she was doing? 439 00:23:41,170 --> 00:23:42,713 | wish | could say that. 440 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,50 You're not saying that she can plead insanity, are you? 441 00:23:46,216 --> 00:23:49,94 Well, both God and society said, "Be fruitful and multiply." 442 00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:51,680 Only the doctors told her she couldn't. 443 00:23:51,847 --> 00:23:54,58 And when that reality set in, her self-image as a woman... 444 00:23:54,224 --> 00:23:56,101 and as a human being all but disappeared. 445 00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:59,521 But that does not justify what she did. I'm not saying that. 446 00:23:59,688 --> 00:24:03,317 Only along comes Debra Elkins and all her predecessors. 447 00:24:03,484 --> 00:24:07,488 They dangle a carrot in front of her nose and say, "Run fast enough and it's yours." 448 00:24:07,655 --> 00:24:11,659 How many laps around the track does it take before you believe you deserve a bite? 449 00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:18,332 Put me on the stand, Ben. As a psychiatrist, I'll say Dorothy Baxter was legally sane. 450 00:24:18,499 --> 00:24:22,294 Ask me as a member of the human race if | think she deserves to go to prison... 451 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:24,672 you'll get an unqualified no. 452 00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:28,217 My son and his wife ran loop-to-loops... 453 00:24:28,384 --> 00:24:31,178 with the adoption services for six years. 454 00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:33,889 Desperation begets desperate measures. 455 00:24:34,56 --> 00:24:35,891 | doubt if Josh would have stolen a child. 456 00:24:36,58 --> 00:24:40,229 No. He wouldn't be so fast to put the Baxter woman behind bars, either. 457 00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:44,942 If Olivet felt sorry for her, imagine what 24 crying eyes... 458 00:24:45,109 --> 00:24:47,444 in a jury will do to our case. 459 00:24:47,611 --> 00:24:48,696 You want us to let her walk? 460 00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:53,158 | want you to get on the phone to Morris Hoffman and work something out. 461 00:24:57,538 --> 00:25:00,207 The defendant wishes to withdraw her plea of not guilty... 462 00:25:00,374 --> 00:25:02,584 and enter a plea of guilty, Your Honor. 463 00:25:02,751 --> 00:25:04,712 | assume there's been some negotiation on this? 464 00:25:04,878 --> 00:25:08,90 We've agreed on a plea of custodial interference in the first degree, Your Honor. 465 00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:11,927 With a suspended sentence. Mrs. Baxter has agreed to undergo... 466 00:25:12,94 --> 00:25:14,930 six months of psychiatric outpatient treatment. 467 00:25:15,889 --> 00:25:20,269 Mrs. Baxter, do you realize you're pleading guilty to a class E felony? 468 00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:23,147 Yes. 469 00:25:23,313 --> 00:25:26,650 Has your attorney advised you of the consequences of such a plea? 470 00:25:26,817 --> 00:25:27,693 Yes. 471 00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:31,238 Please describe your criminal acts in your own words. 472 00:25:34,241 --> 00:25:36,410 | took Jeffrey from the hospital. 473 00:25:38,746 --> 00:25:40,581 | wanted to say that... 474 00:25:42,82 --> 00:25:45,252 we did everything that we were supposed to do. 475 00:25:46,587 --> 00:25:49,965 We gave her money, we took care of her... 476 00:25:51,717 --> 00:25:55,220 and then she dumped us just because we don't live in Westchester. 477 00:25:57,431 --> 00:26:00,893 | want to Know where it says that you need a backyard to love your baby. 478 00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:04,313 Do you understand now that the baby isn't yours? 479 00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:12,571 You should have seen her, Ben. 480 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:15,657 Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe Dorothy Baxter. 481 00:26:15,824 --> 00:26:19,286 | doubt six months on the couch will even scratch the surface. 482 00:26:19,453 --> 00:26:23,207 Debra Elkins doesn't realize half the effect of her actions. 483 00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:25,584 She's probably as confused as Mrs. Baxter. 484 00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:27,669 You don't give your baby away every day. 485 00:26:27,836 --> 00:26:30,297 You know, I'm starting to think maybe she's not as confused . . 486 00:26:30,464 --> 00:26:32,91 as she would have us believe. 487 00:26:32,257 --> 00:26:35,427 In her allocution, Baxter said that Elkins rejected her in favor... 488 00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,638 of someone who lived in Westchester. 489 00:26:37,805 --> 00:26:39,598 You live in this city. You blame her? 490 00:26:39,765 --> 00:26:42,976 The Savitts also live here. What are you saying? 491 00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:46,355 That she promised the baby to somebody else? 492 00:26:46,522 --> 00:26:49,191 We know of two couples already paying her way. 493 00:26:49,358 --> 00:26:50,692 The more, the merrier. 494 00:26:53,70 --> 00:26:57,991 Both the Savitts and the Baxters placed ads in that college newspaper, right? 495 00:26:58,158 --> 00:27:00,702 Let's see if the mystery couple in Westchester. .. 496 00:27:01,703 --> 00:27:05,82 tried contacting the stork in the same way. 497 00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:08,168 But if you're right... 498 00:27:09,336 --> 00:27:11,380 God help us. 499 00:27:16,385 --> 00:27:18,428 (Ric) We spent a week with her in the city. 500 00:27:18,595 --> 00:27:22,15 Plaza Hotel, four-star restaurants. She said it was her first time. 501 00:27:22,182 --> 00:27:24,351 She helped us pick out furniture for the nursery. 502 00:27:24,518 --> 00:27:27,855 FAO Schwarz, Bergdorf's, the works. 503 00:27:28,438 --> 00:27:30,941 The week cost me close to $15,000. 504 00:27:31,358 --> 00:27:33,902 Then, she has the nerve to ask me if she can stay another week. 505 00:27:34,69 --> 00:27:36,321 She's just a kid, Ric. It's over, Mary. 506 00:27:37,72 --> 00:27:38,740 We're not getting the baby. 507 00:27:41,410 --> 00:27:44,288 Did you ever send her money? Does $10,000 cash count? 508 00:27:44,454 --> 00:27:46,81 It was always something with this girl. 509 00:27:46,248 --> 00:27:49,251 One week she couldn't pay her rent, the next week she couldn't afford a doctor. 510 00:27:49,418 --> 00:27:50,752 It's cold, they shut off her heat. 511 00:27:50,919 --> 00:27:51,879 (Mary) She got depressed. 512 00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:55,48 She'd probably be better off getting an abortion but... 513 00:27:55,215 --> 00:27:56,550 how could we let her do that? 514 00:27:56,717 --> 00:27:59,595 Did she ever say specifically that if you gave her money... 515 00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:01,180 she would give you the baby in return? 516 00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:03,557 She said she wanted us to have the baby. 517 00:28:05,809 --> 00:28:07,519 I'm afraid that's not good enough. 518 00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:09,855 When we were in Saks, looking at baby clothes... 519 00:28:10,22 --> 00:28:11,648 Debbie started to cry. 520 00:28:12,24 --> 00:28:15,319 She said it was the first time in months that she felt good about things. 521 00:28:15,485 --> 00:28:18,572 She said her baby was lucky to have us as parents. 522 00:28:19,281 --> 00:28:21,450 She sent me a sonogram of the baby. 523 00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:23,410 On Mother's Day, | got a card. 524 00:28:23,577 --> 00:28:26,205 (Ric) Tell me, what kind of sadist would do something like that? 525 00:28:26,830 --> 00:28:29,82 We've been through it before, Miss Kincaid. 526 00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:32,44 | realize for these girls it's a tough situation. 527 00:28:32,211 --> 00:28:35,47 But this one, she's special. 528 00:28:39,593 --> 00:28:42,12 Garrett Stubbs. Nice fellow. 529 00:28:42,179 --> 00:28:45,515 Twenty years ago, prosecuted him for... 530 00:28:45,682 --> 00:28:48,685 selling the same building to three different buyers. 531 00:28:48,852 --> 00:28:50,270 Talk about Irish charm. 532 00:28:50,437 --> 00:28:52,522 The problem is, she never actually told the couples... 533 00:28:52,689 --> 00:28:55,25 if they gave her money, she'd give them her baby. 534 00:28:55,192 --> 00:28:56,652 Hell of a con. 535 00:28:56,818 --> 00:29:00,989 She plants the seed and then lets their imaginations do the rest. 536 00:29:01,156 --> 00:29:04,701 She can take reasonable medical expenses, but she cannot sell a baby. 537 00:29:04,868 --> 00:29:08,80 Unless you can call an emergency session... 538 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:10,540 of the state legislature, she can. 539 00:29:10,707 --> 00:29:13,627 So you're saying selling a baby is not against the law? 540 00:29:13,794 --> 00:29:18,840 The domestic relations law says a contract to sell a baby is null and void. 541 00:29:19,07 --> 00:29:20,425 The penal law says nothing. 542 00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:22,844 That's unbelievable. That's slavery. 543 00:29:23,11 --> 00:29:25,722 That went out a century ago. For everybody but children. 544 00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:29,476 We don't have standing to institute a civil suit, so-- 545 00:29:29,643 --> 00:29:31,103 So we can't do anything. 546 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:33,397 (Stone) Debra Elkins took money from three couples. 547 00:29:33,563 --> 00:29:36,608 Each of whom thought that they would receive the baby. 548 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:41,280 If we can prove that she never intended to give that baby to anyone-- 549 00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:42,864 Larceny by false promise. 550 00:29:43,31 --> 00:29:45,617 And she received more than $60,000. 551 00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:47,828 That's grand larceny two. 552 00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:52,708 You dragged my client down from Poughkeepsie for this? 553 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:55,711 AC felony always gets my attention, Jane. 554 00:29:56,336 --> 00:29:57,587 What's he talking about? 555 00:29:57,754 --> 00:30:00,382 Why don't you ask the Baxters, the Savitts, or the Cushmans? 556 00:30:00,549 --> 00:30:01,967 Hey, if they're stupid enough-- 557 00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:03,51 (Jane) Ben. 558 00:30:03,218 --> 00:30:06,138 | Know you've been stuck in this building for God knows how long... 559 00:30:06,305 --> 00:30:10,58 but across the street, the birth mother always has the right to change her mind. 560 00:30:10,225 --> 00:30:13,228 Check the domestic relations law. She's got 45 days. 561 00:30:13,395 --> 00:30:15,272 I'm more interested in the penal law, Jane. 562 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:18,650 Specifically, the sections on grand larceny. 563 00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:21,361 | never asked these people for anything. 564 00:30:21,528 --> 00:30:24,281 What they gave me, they gave on their own. 565 00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:26,74 | never promised them anything. 566 00:30:26,241 --> 00:30:30,829 You led them to believe-- | know exactly what | said, Mr. Stone. 567 00:30:31,663 --> 00:30:35,292 | also Know | can't be held liable for what they assumed. 568 00:30:36,793 --> 00:30:39,671 On the other had, Miss Elkins, you did take money from these people... 569 00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:42,799 knowing full well that the baby would not be adopted by anyone. 570 00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:45,135 (Jen) Very creative, Ben. Now I'd like to see you prove it... 571 00:30:45,302 --> 00:30:48,13 considering the fact that the baby has already been adopted... 572 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,57 by Les and Gwen Savitt. 573 00:30:56,772 --> 00:30:59,608 Miss Elkins, how does this con game work? 574 00:30:59,775 --> 00:31:03,28 When you found out that you were pregnant, was the first call to your lawyer... 575 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:05,947 to find out what you could or could not say to these people? 576 00:31:06,615 --> 00:31:09,117 As a matter of fact, yeah. 577 00:31:15,749 --> 00:31:18,418 You should have seen her. The girl's inhuman. 578 00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:22,89 Unfortunately, inhumanity is not against the law. 579 00:31:22,422 --> 00:31:25,133 The law's supposed to be a shield, Adam, not a sword. 580 00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:28,11 Debra Elkins took it, manipulated it, and drove it right through... 581 00:31:28,178 --> 00:31:29,304 these people's hearts. 582 00:31:29,471 --> 00:31:31,56 And enjoyed every minute of it. 583 00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:33,475 Why shouldn't she? It made her a lot of money. 584 00:31:33,642 --> 00:31:36,19 Well, the Savitts obviously won the baby contest. 585 00:31:36,186 --> 00:31:38,271 | find it hard to believe that they didn't offer Debra. .. 586 00:31:38,438 --> 00:31:40,399 a little more consideration than the other couples. 587 00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:43,193 So you're thinking Debra was a little more adamant with her demands? 588 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,277 A lot more adamant. 589 00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:47,447 Whatever you want, Ben. | just want this girl off the street. 590 00:31:47,614 --> 00:31:48,573 Okay. 591 00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:51,618 [cooing] 592 00:31:51,785 --> 00:31:53,578 You must be kidding. 593 00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:56,123 We're not stupid, Mr. Stone. 594 00:31:57,374 --> 00:31:59,876 We know that if we help you, we lose our son. 595 00:32:00,43 --> 00:32:02,45 (Stone) Debra can only contest to the adoption... 596 00:32:02,212 --> 00:32:04,339 within 45 days after giving birth. 597 00:32:04,506 --> 00:32:06,800 By the time we're at trial, we'll be long past that. 598 00:32:06,967 --> 00:32:08,969 She cannot take your baby away from you. 599 00:32:09,136 --> 00:32:10,429 (Les) You don't get it, do you? 600 00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:13,56 Do you have any idea how long we've waited for this? 601 00:32:13,223 --> 00:32:16,226 There is no way I'm gonna let anything screw this up now. 602 00:32:16,393 --> 00:32:17,561 This girl is dangerous. 603 00:32:17,727 --> 00:32:20,397 Which is exactly why you're not going to get anything out of us. 604 00:32:20,564 --> 00:32:23,692 If you actually bought the baby-- It's not against the law. 605 00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:24,818 (Kincaid) No. 606 00:32:24,985 --> 00:32:27,487 But then the adoption is null and void. 607 00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:29,114 You can't take my baby. 608 00:32:29,281 --> 00:32:32,701 Mrs. Savitt, we can subpoena your bank records. 609 00:32:32,868 --> 00:32:36,79 (Les) | thought blackmail was against the law, Mr. Stone. 610 00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:41,251 Do what you have to do, but I'm telling you right now, you're wasting your time. 611 00:32:43,03 --> 00:32:45,881 Well, if the Savitts paid Elkins, they covered their tracks. 612 00:32:46,47 --> 00:32:48,884 No records of any transfers from either of their banks. 613 00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:51,261 So we're back to running in circles. 614 00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:54,14 Well, we can always put the Savitts onh the stand. 615 00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:56,766 No, | think they'd even risk perjury. 616 00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:59,227 When you had that meeting with the Cushmans... 617 00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:02,647 wasn't there something in your memo about abortion? 618 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:06,902 Mrs. Cushman said that whenever Elkins got depressed about money... 619 00:33:07,68 --> 00:33:09,446 she talked about ending her pregnancy. 620 00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:12,157 Doesn't that sound like extortion to you? 621 00:33:13,33 --> 00:33:14,367 Extortion? 622 00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:17,829 I'd get my Bar review outlines out, Counselor. It's time for a little brush up. 623 00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:21,249 Your client threatened physical injury if she did not receive payment. 624 00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:23,168 She's been accused of a lot, but | didn't hear... 625 00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:24,878 anyone say she held a gun to their heads. 626 00:33:25,45 --> 00:33:27,47 Then brush the dust off the outline. 627 00:33:27,214 --> 00:33:30,258 The statute reads, "Threat of physical injury to anybody." 628 00:33:30,425 --> 00:33:33,303 We know she told the Cushmans she was contemplating abortion. 629 00:33:34,346 --> 00:33:35,972 This is a joke, right? 630 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:39,226 | find nothing amusing about your client. 631 00:33:39,392 --> 00:33:42,145 Why don't we see what Judge Sanderson thinks? 632 00:33:42,312 --> 00:33:44,105 Fine. Let's do that. 633 00:33:45,482 --> 00:33:49,69 To be accurate, the extortion statute requires a threat... 634 00:33:49,236 --> 00:33:51,321 to cause injury to a person. 635 00:33:51,488 --> 00:33:54,282 It doesn't mention a person not yet born. 636 00:33:54,449 --> 00:33:57,744 A fetus older than 24 weeks is deemed a person... 637 00:33:57,911 --> 00:33:59,704 for purposes of the murder statute. 638 00:33:59,871 --> 00:34:00,830 By extension-- Come on, Counselor. 639 00:34:00,997 --> 00:34:03,291 Every first-year law student knows the penal law is meant... 640 00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:05,502 to be narrowly construed. We don't extend. 641 00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:07,212 If it's not in those pages, it doesn't count. 642 00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:10,298 The statute also covers threats to damaged property. 643 00:34:10,465 --> 00:34:12,676 And if, as you state, 7 fetus. . 644 00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:15,679 is not a person at any point in its gestation-- 645 00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:18,98 | don't want to hear the end of that argument, Ben. 646 00:34:18,265 --> 00:34:20,267 | understand, Your Honor. But this case-- 647 00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:23,19 Deserves to leave skidmarks on the bowl. 648 00:34:23,186 --> 00:34:24,396 Thank you. 649 00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:28,66 Don't hold a ticker-tape parade just yet, Miss Schuman. 650 00:34:29,25 --> 00:34:32,320 I'm going to let the State take its case to a jury. 651 00:34:32,487 --> 00:34:33,572 This is ridiculous. 652 00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:35,907 If | get reversed, so be it. 653 00:34:36,74 --> 00:34:39,494 But | have a feeling your client is exactly the sort a panel of judges... 654 00:34:39,661 --> 00:34:42,122 would love to use to make new law. 655 00:34:46,835 --> 00:34:49,713 Whatever we gave her, she just wanted more. 656 00:34:50,505 --> 00:34:54,676 Did there come a time when you felt you had to inform Miss Elkins... 657 00:34:55,302 --> 00:34:58,179 that you could no longer give her additional funds? 658 00:34:58,346 --> 00:34:59,472 Yes. 659 00:35:00,56 --> 00:35:02,976 We're not, you know, wealthy people and... 660 00:35:04,19 --> 00:35:06,730 we had already given her $10,000... 661 00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:10,900 and we told her that we were struggling to get by, as it was. 662 00:35:11,67 --> 00:35:12,944 How did she respond to that? 663 00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:16,197 She said, "What's the use?" 664 00:35:16,364 --> 00:35:20,243 She said, "Maybe it would be best for everyone... 665 00:35:20,785 --> 00:35:23,163 "if | just didn't go through with it." 666 00:35:23,330 --> 00:35:25,749 What do you think she meant by that? 667 00:35:28,84 --> 00:35:30,170 That she would terminate the pregnancy. 668 00:35:30,879 --> 00:35:32,213 Thank you. 669 00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:34,132 Your withess. 670 00:35:37,10 --> 00:35:38,553 Isn't it true, Mrs. Baxter... 671 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:42,390 that you pled guilty to kidnapping my client's baby? 672 00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:44,267 She told me he was mine. 673 00:35:44,434 --> 00:35:47,646 Now, Mrs. Baxter, if she really... 674 00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:49,648 said that, then... 675 00:35:49,814 --> 00:35:53,693 you wouldn't have been guilty of a crime, isn't that so? 676 00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:56,363 She sent me a list of baby names that she liked. 677 00:35:56,529 --> 00:35:59,115 And you interpreted that to mean that the baby was yours? 678 00:35:59,282 --> 00:36:01,701 She said that she wanted us to have the baby. 679 00:36:01,868 --> 00:36:03,787 She said that we would have made the best parents. 680 00:36:03,953 --> 00:36:08,333 Did she ever say that she was going to give up the baby to you for adoption? 681 00:36:09,334 --> 00:36:12,03 Not in so many words. So that's a no. 682 00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:17,217 No. 683 00:36:17,384 --> 00:36:21,846 So basically, you misunderstood her intentions, isn't that so? 684 00:36:24,391 --> 00:36:25,308 | guess so. 685 00:36:25,475 --> 00:36:28,645 Isn't it possible then that you also misunderstood her intentions... 686 00:36:28,812 --> 00:36:31,231 when she talked about an abortion? 687 00:36:34,943 --> 00:36:37,70 | don't know how many times she said it. 688 00:36:37,237 --> 00:36:39,406 "Maybe | should just get an abortion." 689 00:36:39,572 --> 00:36:42,325 How did you respond? Sent her more money. 690 00:36:42,492 --> 00:36:44,703 That got her out of her depression in a hurry. 691 00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:47,914 (Stone) So it was your understanding at that time... 692 00:36:48,81 --> 00:36:51,00 that Debra Elkins would terminate her pregnancy... 693 00:36:51,167 --> 00:36:52,711 if you did not give her more money? 694 00:36:52,877 --> 00:36:56,89 She had a way of making me believe everything she said. 695 00:36:56,256 --> 00:36:57,966 | had to believe her. 696 00:36:58,133 --> 00:37:00,677 All right, thank you. Your withess. 697 00:37:03,722 --> 00:37:08,518 Can | assume that you felt just awful when you found out that Debra decided. .. 698 00:37:08,685 --> 00:37:10,979 to give the baby to someone else? 699 00:37:11,146 --> 00:37:12,939 | don't have a baby. 700 00:37:13,982 --> 00:37:16,359 My husband is filing for divorce. 701 00:37:18,69 --> 00:37:19,612 She should be punished. 702 00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:22,449 You know, some people would call that sour grapes, Mrs. Cushman. 703 00:37:22,615 --> 00:37:23,658 Objection. 704 00:37:28,288 --> 00:37:29,289 (Schuman) Ben. 705 00:37:30,331 --> 00:37:34,878 No matter what Judge Sanderson thinks, a motion alone doesn't get you a conviction. 706 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:38,715 I've established my prima facie case, and that's all I'm concerned about. 707 00:37:38,882 --> 00:37:42,135 Yeah? Well, | wouldn't count my chickens just yet. 708 00:37:42,302 --> 00:37:44,554 | just added a new withess to my list. 709 00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:49,350 Mr. Savitt will be taking the stand. Have fun. 710 00:37:51,853 --> 00:37:54,773 We'd been through it a dozen times over the past five years. 711 00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:58,610 A girl answers our ad, we meet her, we like her, hopefully, she likes us. 712 00:37:58,777 --> 00:38:01,488 It really doesn't mean anything. SO... 713 00:38:02,71 --> 00:38:03,782 even though you paid Debbie's expenses... 714 00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:06,576 you never thought the adoption was a sure thing? 715 00:38:06,743 --> 00:38:08,912 You go through this enough, you realize these girls... 716 00:38:09,78 --> 00:38:11,539 are in an overwhelming emotional situation. 717 00:38:11,706 --> 00:38:13,583 Was there ever a time when Debbie told you... 718 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:15,668 she was considering having an abortion? 719 00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:19,589 Like it or not, that's one of the options available to girls in her situation. 720 00:38:19,756 --> 00:38:23,92 Sure, she talked about it, but it's not as if she held it over our heads or anything. 721 00:38:23,259 --> 00:38:25,553 | just want to be clear, Mr. Savitt. 722 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,56 Did Debbie Elkins ever give you an ultimatum? 723 00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:31,59 Give her money, or she ends her pregnancy? 724 00:38:32,936 --> 00:38:35,271 Of course not. No more questions. 725 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:42,529 Mr. Savitt, was there ever a time when Debra Elkins asked you for money... 726 00:38:42,695 --> 00:38:44,697 that you could not deliver a check? 727 00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:48,117 | make a good living. The money was nothing. 728 00:38:48,284 --> 00:38:49,911 | see. So... 729 00:38:50,453 --> 00:38:55,41 Ms. Elkins never had to resort to extortionist tactics, correct? 730 00:38:55,208 --> 00:38:58,962 You give her too much credit, Mr. Stone. Debbie's not that kind of girl. 731 00:38:59,546 --> 00:39:01,881 Sure, maybe she's mixed up, but all she's trying to do... 732 00:39:02,48 --> 00:39:04,717 is place her baby with the best possible family. 733 00:39:04,884 --> 00:39:06,52 She's not a criminal. 734 00:39:06,219 --> 00:39:07,387 Oh, really? 735 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:11,766 Well, what do you call intentionally misleading the Baxters and the Cushmans. .. 736 00:39:11,933 --> 00:39:14,394 into thinking that they were going to receive the child... 737 00:39:14,561 --> 00:39:17,856 so that Debra Elkins could receive as much money as she could? 738 00:39:18,22 --> 00:39:19,941 Objection. Sustained. 739 00:39:20,108 --> 00:39:22,735 | Know these other people are disappointed. 740 00:39:22,902 --> 00:39:24,654 | understand that. I've been there. 741 00:39:24,821 --> 00:39:27,866 And the easiest thing in the world is to blame the birth mother. 742 00:39:28,32 --> 00:39:29,325 But it's hardly extortion. 743 00:39:29,492 --> 00:39:33,454 Oh, and besides, Debra Elkins, she's just not that kind of girl, right? 744 00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:37,667 Then why are you here, sir? 745 00:39:37,834 --> 00:39:39,252 You have the baby. Objection. 746 00:39:39,419 --> 00:39:40,920 (Stone) Did she promise you something? 747 00:39:41,87 --> 00:39:42,547 She threaten you? (Schuman) Your Honor. 748 00:39:42,714 --> 00:39:43,756 Enough. 749 00:39:43,923 --> 00:39:45,300 Mr. Stone. 750 00:39:47,969 --> 00:39:51,431 We both know what kind of girl Debra Elkins is, sir. And... 751 00:39:52,557 --> 00:39:54,475 don't think you're any better. 752 00:39:57,645 --> 00:40:00,857 The jury had to see that Les Savitt had another agenda. 753 00:40:01,24 --> 00:40:03,192 (Kincaid) Only your entire cross was inadmissible. 754 00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:05,528 The judge instructed them to disregard. 755 00:40:05,695 --> 00:40:07,280 The jury can't ignore what they heard. 756 00:40:07,447 --> 00:40:11,367 And when the appellate judges hear it, it'll add fuel to Schuman's fire. 757 00:40:11,701 --> 00:40:13,77 [intercom buzzing] 758 00:40:16,581 --> 00:40:17,665 Yes? 759 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:20,543 We'll be right there. 760 00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,422 The Savitts are in your office with their lawyer. 761 00:40:27,216 --> 00:40:28,718 Now before we start, Ben. 762 00:40:28,885 --> 00:40:31,512 | want your assurances you're not going to get any crazy ideas... 763 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,264 about charging my client with anything. 764 00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:36,809 If your client is looking for absolution, Ed, he came to the wrong building. 765 00:40:36,976 --> 00:40:38,394 Whatever. 766 00:40:38,561 --> 00:40:41,356 Now let's assume, hypothetically speaking, of course. .. 767 00:40:41,522 --> 00:40:44,817 that Mr. Savitt wants to change his testimony. 768 00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:51,449 This is not a game, sir. 769 00:40:51,616 --> 00:40:52,575 Perjury is a serious crime. 770 00:40:52,742 --> 00:40:54,869 Yeah, we understand that, but that's not the real issue. 771 00:40:55,36 --> 00:40:58,122 The real issue is, how badly do you want the Elkins girl? 772 00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:02,01 Now you give Mr. Savitt a free ride, and you get the girl. 773 00:41:04,45 --> 00:41:05,838 What are we talking about? 774 00:41:10,51 --> 00:41:12,11 The girl didn't just threaten us. 775 00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:14,722 She tortured us. 776 00:41:17,58 --> 00:41:20,478 Once, | suggested that she was maybe spending too much money. 777 00:41:21,437 --> 00:41:24,899 About a week later, Gwen got a hysterical phone call. 778 00:41:26,234 --> 00:41:29,195 She was sick. Could we meet her at her doctor's office in Poughkeepsie? 779 00:41:29,362 --> 00:41:33,282 And when | got there, it wasn't a doctor's office, it was an abortion clinic. 780 00:41:33,616 --> 00:41:37,370 She kept sending us these sick pictures of dead fetuses. 781 00:41:37,537 --> 00:41:40,957 And then, she'd write on the bottom, something like, "This could be yours." 782 00:41:41,124 --> 00:41:43,42 She's an animal, Mr. Stone. 783 00:41:43,209 --> 00:41:44,836 Do you have any of these pictures? 784 00:41:45,03 --> 00:41:45,962 (Gwen) Les did. 785 00:41:46,129 --> 00:41:47,964 At first, in case, you know. 786 00:41:48,131 --> 00:41:51,134 But then, once we got the baby, | made him get rid of all of them. 787 00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,761 Mr. Savitt, | assume that you did not come here... 788 00:41:53,928 --> 00:41:55,888 out of the goodness of your heart. 789 00:41:57,432 --> 00:42:01,436 We gave her a bond worth $75,000 when the baby was born. 790 00:42:02,20 --> 00:42:03,354 What does she want from us? 791 00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:06,232 Are you now saying that she's asking for more money? 792 00:42:06,399 --> 00:42:09,27 Not her. Her boyfriend. 793 00:42:10,403 --> 00:42:14,323 After | testified, he tried to shake us down for another $100,000. 794 00:42:15,825 --> 00:42:18,244 He said we give him the money, or he contests the adoption. 795 00:42:18,411 --> 00:42:19,829 (Kincaid) Steven Shaw? 796 00:42:20,246 --> 00:42:22,915 He doesn't have standing. He does if he's the father. 797 00:42:23,82 --> 00:42:27,253 Kid's got a blood test to prove it and a suitcase full of Baby Jessica clippings. 798 00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:29,380 (Gwen) It's never going to end with this girl. 799 00:42:30,757 --> 00:42:34,218 We can't put ourselves or our baby through this. 800 00:42:39,98 --> 00:42:40,975 (Schuman) My favorite kind of adversary, Ben. 801 00:42:41,142 --> 00:42:44,353 Rather than suffer the agony of defeat, raise those white flags early. 802 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,189 (Stone) You may be right, Jane. 803 00:42:46,355 --> 00:42:49,67 | may not have a case against your client. 804 00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:53,154 But against Mr. Shaw, that's another story. 805 00:42:54,113 --> 00:42:55,323 What are you talking about? 806 00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:57,116 (Kincaid) We had a discussion with the Savitts. 807 00:42:57,283 --> 00:43:00,536 Two eyewitnesses to extortion and grand larceny. 808 00:43:00,703 --> 00:43:02,872 And they're both felonies, sir. 809 00:43:04,82 --> 00:43:06,292 Wait a minute. You mean, 1 go to jail, and she walks away? 810 00:43:06,459 --> 00:43:08,169 Shut up, Steven. To hell with that. 811 00:43:08,336 --> 00:43:09,921 Can't you see what he's trying to do? 812 00:43:10,88 --> 00:43:11,380 You're entitled to a lawyer, sir. 813 00:43:11,547 --> 00:43:15,635 Listen to me, Steven, listen, everything is under control. 814 00:43:16,177 --> 00:43:18,596 They think we're just poor white trash. 815 00:43:18,763 --> 00:43:20,56 Maybe they're right. 816 00:43:20,807 --> 00:43:22,391 You shut your stupid face. 817 00:43:22,558 --> 00:43:24,852 Stop calling me stupid. Stevie. 818 00:43:25,19 --> 00:43:27,605 Stevie, come on, sweetie. 819 00:43:28,314 --> 00:43:29,690 | love you. 820 00:43:31,67 --> 00:43:32,568 Don't blow this. 821 00:43:32,735 --> 00:43:35,613 You are such a bitch, you know that? 822 00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:39,33 We are making sentencing recommendations that your terms... 823 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,78 be served consecutively, not concurrently. 824 00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:44,831 That means you're going away for a long time. 825 00:43:44,997 --> 00:43:46,582 Just ignore him. 826 00:43:48,835 --> 00:43:51,546 Apparently, Miss Elkins, "stupid" here... 827 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,966 is going to prison for you. 828 00:44:00,346 --> 00:44:03,15 | want a deal. You see what | gotta put up with? 829 00:44:03,182 --> 00:44:05,351 (Stone) The deal depends on what you tell us. 830 00:44:06,978 --> 00:44:08,771 It was all her idea. 831 00:44:09,313 --> 00:44:12,275 She had this whole thing planned before she even got pregnant. 832 00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:14,235 | didn't want anything to do with kids. 833 00:44:14,402 --> 00:44:17,822 And then, she gets knocked up, like it was an accident. 834 00:44:17,989 --> 00:44:20,658 (Stone) Did you witness personally any of her extortion? 835 00:44:20,825 --> 00:44:22,285 (Steven) Are you kidding me? 836 00:44:22,451 --> 00:44:25,997 She had me go to the Right to Lifers to get these pictures. 837 00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:28,791 | heard her on the phone. She's good. 838 00:44:29,167 --> 00:44:30,751 You want to know what she did? 839 00:44:30,918 --> 00:44:33,129 She's giving birth to the kid in the hotel room... 840 00:44:33,296 --> 00:44:35,256 she's on the phone taking bids between contractions. 841 00:44:35,423 --> 00:44:37,08 She wouldn't take him to the hospital. 842 00:44:37,175 --> 00:44:39,51 She wants me to make a quick sale. 843 00:44:39,218 --> 00:44:41,846 All you have is his word, Ben, and we all know how much... 844 00:44:42,13 --> 00:44:43,890 character it takes to be a felon. 845 00:44:44,348 --> 00:44:48,227 How much character does it take to auction off your own child? 846 00:44:49,937 --> 00:44:51,939 You want to talk about character? 847 00:44:52,773 --> 00:44:55,651 The only reason that any of these people cared about me... 848 00:44:55,818 --> 00:44:58,279 is because | had something they wanted. 849 00:44:59,322 --> 00:45:02,450 You don't think | know what they think about me? 850 00:45:02,617 --> 00:45:05,286 They used me, so | used them back. 851 00:45:06,37 --> 00:45:07,955 By selling your child? 852 00:45:09,207 --> 00:45:10,625 My first kid... 853 00:45:11,334 --> 00:45:15,213 I'm sitting in the St. Vincent's Home for Girls in Poughkeepsie. 854 00:45:15,379 --> 00:45:18,716 All these people being nice to me, all their fake smiles. .. 855 00:45:18,883 --> 00:45:21,219 their phony, "How are you, Debbies?" 856 00:45:22,53 --> 00:45:26,515 They take my baby, and I'm back to my crappy apartment and my crappy life. 857 00:45:27,58 --> 00:45:29,977 | wasn't gonna let that happen to me again. 858 00:45:30,686 --> 00:45:34,190 So | make babies, Mr. Stone. Hell, I'm good at it. 859 00:45:34,523 --> 00:45:37,902 So what if there are people willing to pay me for it? 860 00:45:40,988 --> 00:45:43,991 Grand larceny two, Ben. She serves the minimum. 861 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:48,829 She serves 4-to-12. 862 00:45:57,380 --> 00:45:58,881 | just spoke with Gwen Savitt. 863 00:45:59,48 --> 00:46:01,842 They're taking the baby and leaving New York for places unknown. 864 00:46:02,09 --> 00:46:04,553 All the publicity. Who can blame them? 865 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,139 It's not the publicity that scares them, Adam. 866 00:46:07,473 --> 00:46:10,476 It's the knock on the door 12 years from now. 67553

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