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(male narrator)
In the criminal Justice system...
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the people are represented by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police
who investigate crime...
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Okay. We're getting close.
Okay?
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[tape rewinding]
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(Cameraman)
Okay, folks. 30 seconds to air.
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(woman)
Yeah. That's good.
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Okay, Allan.
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Okay, camera coming through.
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Here we go. Let's do this.
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How does it look, Bonnie?
Looks great, Rick.
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Control your hair,
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Barry,
can you hear me out there?
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Yeah, lock up the street.
I'm coming out.
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(Barry)
You got it, Rick. Chucky, frame me up. Signal?
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(Perkins)
Signal good to the towers.
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All right, standby.
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Joey, be a guy.
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Plug me in and keep me hot.
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(Joey)
Clean and mean, Rick.
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(man)
Today, live from the streets of New York.
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Okay, it's bingo time.
Coming in 10.
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(Perkins)
Three camera's ready.
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Show me hard. Light me up.
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(Perkins)
Okay, we're going to roll...
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coming up to air in five,
four, three....
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(man)
...Rick Mason's Final Confession.
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I'm Rick Mason.
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Today as always, live on location
on Final Confession. .
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the first exclusive interview
with Dr. Joseph Vinton...
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child molester. ..
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and one of his victims,
Scott Fisher.
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Let's go meet them.
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[crowd applauding]
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[vehicles honking]
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[people chattering]
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Four years ago, Dr. Joseph Vinton,
a therapist...
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recognized for his treatment
of disturbed children...
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took Scott Fisher...
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then 11 years old,
to this restaurant.
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[people applauding]
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Now, Dr. Vinton sat here
with Scott. .
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he bought him ice cream...
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and he convinced Scott not to say anything
about the abuse that he'd committed. ..
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moments earlier at
his Greenwich Village office.
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But eventually,
Scott did tell his mother...
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and Dr. Vinton went to prison.
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Dr. Vinton.
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It must be strange for you
coming back to this place.
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I'm not concerned about myself.
I'm here to help others.
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I've committed unspeakable crimes,
and while I've served my time in jail...
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| Know it's not enough.
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Eighteen months for the abuse
of seven children.
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Sounds like a cruise.
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Is that justice?
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| don't Know what justice is.
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| know what | did was awful.
| hurt people.
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| can't ever live it down.
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Not in 18 months,
or in 18 years.
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Now, you wrote a book in prison
about your experiences.
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Who would you think would want to read it?
Certainly not my audience!
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[people booing]
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| didn't face what I'd done
until | was in prison.
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The book is part of my recovery.
Part of the reason I'm free today...
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to say...
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I'm sorry.
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To say he's sorry
to two of his victims...
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Scott Fisher,
and his mother Sarah.
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Now, Scott...
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this man took you into his care
and he abused you.
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(Mason)
He's willing to acknowledge that.
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But if | were you...
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| think | would
still be a little angry.
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| am, but...
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I'm hoping to...
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make a start. ..
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at getting it together.
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[gunshots]
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[people screaming]
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[gunshot]
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[people clamoring]
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This is terrible!
Take us to commercial. Commercial!
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| was on air, | didn't see
the father come in.
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You knew who he was?
| wanted him on the show.
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The wife says he's there,
she's not.
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Who dreams he's going
to show up and shoot Vinton?
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Vinton gonna make it?
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Died in surgery.
Oh, no.
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(technician)
Mr. Mason?
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[sighs]
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Top of the show.
If this doesn't do it...
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four million withesses.
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Did the father know the psychiatrist
was going to be here today?
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[siren wailing]
No way.
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We're on location every week.
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We never announce
where we're going to be.
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That's what | do.
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My guests are in a hotel
two days before air.
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Even the crew doesn't know who's gonna be
on till just the last minute.
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[woman chattering
on police radio]
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| could have been shot myself.
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Look, if there's
nothing else...
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can | take care
of my staff?
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Let me give you my card.
You remember anything else give me a call.
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Why did he do it?
Because he's crazy, that's why.
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You thought your husband
was capable of violence?
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It's my fault. He blames me
for what happened to Scotty.
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He blames me for everything.
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| don't talk to my husband.
| haven't seen him in three years.
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So, you didn't expect him
here today?
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Well, he attacked Vinton
at his trial.
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He got thrown out of the Army.
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Why do you think
| divorced him?
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Is my dad going to be okay?
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(Briscoe)
The wound's not serious.
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Officer O'Brien is going to
take you home, all right?
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Where is that
security director Talbott?
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| sent him back to the precinct.
We'll get his statement.
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What? He's an ex-cop.
He did his job.
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You want to book him
for shooting the father?
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If you don't mind,
I've got a question.
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How'd the father know
to come here today?
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Come on, Mike, break it up, move along.
Nothing to see here.
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Secret location, lots of security.
How did Fisher get here?
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He shot the guy
who molested his kid.
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| don't care
if an avenging angel sent him.
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| might've done the same thing
if it was my kid.
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Oh, | guess, case closed.
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That's what Van Buren
will say.
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How did the father
get there?
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Who cares?
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In Narcotics, we didn't care when
scum dealers got shot...
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we did want to find out
who shot them.
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We have the killer in an operating room
at Bellevue.
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Just tell me
how Fisher got there.
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We drop it and he does
his 25 years.
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What did the wife say?
He was in the Army...
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in the Rangers in Vietham?
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Those guys can track a leopard
in the rain...
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so, maybe
he stalked the shrink.
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(Logan)
A shrink child molester.
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| wonder what's next
on his show...
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family dog gets a sex change?
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Or girl gives birth
to a baby pig.
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My mother likes those shows,
along with the rest of America.
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What do you want to do?
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Hey, we already have
four open homicides.
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Now, wait a minute. If he stalked him,
he could have hit him in an alleyway...
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he could have hit him
driving a car.
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He picks today when four million people
are watching...
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in a place he's not even
supposed to know about?
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I'm just saying
let's give it a day.
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If nothing happens,
the case closes itself.
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Talbott,
Mason's head of security...
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the one who shot the father,
we've got him upstairs. So?
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Bring him down.
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| don't know how he got there.
At least | zipped him.
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God knows
who he would have shot next.
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You'd think someone would have noticed him
at the restaurant.
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They were rounding up audience
off the street.
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| wish I'd seen him sooner,
but, hey...
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it was a crowd.
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You'd already met the father?
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Saw his picture in a file.
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Hey, hold on...
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Twenty years in the 31, | know the drill.
Now, am | here to give a statement or what?
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Easy, Barry.
Nobody's blaming you.
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But the wife said
her husband was a wacko.
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You weren't worried?
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| never talked to the guy
myself...
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Yeah, | knew he was a nut,
but a gun?
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You're sure Mrs. Fisher didn't know
where the show was?
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Unless she reads minds.
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She don't find out
until we drive her there.
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Do me a favor, use the desk.
Finish typing up this statement.
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Nice guy.
Oh, sure.
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Retired cop.
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What?
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He knows Fisher was in the Army,
has a history of violence.
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What? He's surprised the guy
shows up with a gun?
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Well, | thought you said
we had four open homicides.
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The bodies are frozen.
They're not going to thaw out.
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Okay, let's call the D.A.
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Maybe we get in to see Pop Fisher.
He sure as hell knows how he got there.
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Yeah, he's in post-op, sedated.
They won't put him in his room till the morning.
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[woman chattering on PA]
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| followed the son of a bitch.
| shot him.
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(Briscoe)
Where did you follow Vinton from?
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(Logan)
You're going to prison.
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If you help us, maybe the D.A.
will help you.
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Sid. The D.A. says if you cooperate--
You're a lawyer, right?
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Listen up, no jury puts me in jail
for what | did.
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Sid, you listen.
It's a question of for how long.
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Like Vinton.
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Country club, 18 months.
He deserved to die.
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All right, look, we can do this the easy way,
or we can do this the hard way.
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| didn't talk to Mason,
Talbott, any of his people.
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But you know the name
of the head of his security.
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Hell, yeah, | Know his name.
He put a hole in my shoulder.
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Sid, this
isn't getting anywhere.
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| shot an animal.
Call the vet.
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If I'd known this would happen,
obviously we wouldn't have gone on TV.
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Well, after what
you'd been through...
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some people would wonder
why you went on TV at all.
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| thought we could help others.
| thought it would be good for Scotty.
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We'd have an ending,
a resolution.
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Scotty, ahem,
let me ask you...
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did you want your father
there?
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He's not in touch with Sid.
The court arranges everything.
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But, it must have been painful
seeing Vinton again, huh?
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Well, after three years,
it was okay.
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You knew your dad was angry?
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Dad's angry
about what happened to me.
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He has a right to be.
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(Sarah)
Scotty.
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So, Dr. Vinton is dead.
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Scotty, | want to talk
to the detectives alone.
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You see how upset he is?
We're victims of this, too.
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My husband's temper destroyed
my son and my marriage. | didn't tell him.
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| didn't know
where we were going.
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He can't remember
how he found Vinton.
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Must be trauma
from the wound.
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Had to be his wife.
She got to him.
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Mrs. Fisher's lying?
Come on, she hates her husband.
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She doesn't have to like him
to wind him up.
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Yeah, but she
wouldn't want him there.
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She'd be afraid
he'd shoot her.
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"The killing of Dr. Vinton comes at the start
of the television period...
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"known as sweeps. Ratings of
Rick Mason's Final Confession are expected to rise...
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30% in the top 25 markets."
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Oh, Mason did it
for the ratings.
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He's a saint, and his show caters to
the highest instincts of human nature.
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Look at him, he's scum.
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So, change the channel.
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Are you listening to yourself?
First Pop, then Mom, now Mason.
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It's an Oliver Stone movie.
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All right, nobody planned it.
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It still doesn't answer my question.
How did Fisher know where to go?
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That security chief, Talbott?
242
00:11:22,265 --> 00:11:25,560
He had the mother and son
in a hotel for two days.
243
00:11:29,397 --> 00:11:31,65
Fifth floor. Adjoining suites.
244
00:11:31,232 --> 00:11:33,359
Mrs. Fisher and the boy.
Very private.
245
00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:35,278
So, if we called
we couldn't get through.
246
00:11:35,445 --> 00:11:37,197
Discretion is our middle name.
247
00:11:37,363 --> 00:11:41,451
No, Mr. Mason's guests and Mr. Talbott
weren't even on the computer.
248
00:11:41,618 --> 00:11:42,952
Here we go.
249
00:11:43,494 --> 00:11:46,873
The Fishers, no phone calls.
Talbott, local only.
250
00:11:48,166 --> 00:11:50,501
All to the same number.
Mason's office.
251
00:11:50,668 --> 00:11:52,212
Was Mr. Mason here
Tuesday night?
252
00:11:52,378 --> 00:11:54,339
He came in about 5:00.
253
00:11:54,505 --> 00:11:56,883
| took him up myself
in the service elevator.
254
00:11:57,50 --> 00:11:59,802
Mr. M. hates the lobby.
Samsonite tourists.
255
00:11:59,969 --> 00:12:01,596
He left about 7:00.
256
00:12:01,763 --> 00:12:04,807
Are there any pay phones upstairs?
On the residential floors?
257
00:12:04,974 --> 00:12:06,893
If they use pay phones,
we lose our surcharge.
258
00:12:07,60 --> 00:12:08,770
Anywhere other than the lobby?
259
00:12:08,937 --> 00:12:12,357
Yeah, there's one on the mezzanine,
third floor. Very private.
260
00:12:12,523 --> 00:12:14,275
Okay, thanks. Hey.
261
00:12:14,651 --> 00:12:16,277
9:53 p.m.
262
00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:19,30
A phone call
from the mezzanine.
263
00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:21,908
To 526 East 91st Street.
264
00:12:22,75 --> 00:12:23,660
Sid Fisher's place.
265
00:12:23,826 --> 00:12:25,870
| guess the bellboy
made the call.
266
00:12:26,37 --> 00:12:27,789
Mason left at 7:00.
267
00:12:28,498 --> 00:12:29,791
Talbott was still there.
268
00:12:29,958 --> 00:12:31,709
Somebody has good instincts.
269
00:12:31,876 --> 00:12:34,754
Which one of you said Mr. Talbott
should learn to lie better?
270
00:12:34,921 --> 00:12:36,256
Both of us.
271
00:12:37,257 --> 00:12:39,384
He said 20 years on the force?
272
00:12:39,550 --> 00:12:42,762
Sixteen. Never made sergeant,
tried three times.
273
00:12:42,929 --> 00:12:45,598
|.A. investigation
said payoffs from dealers.
274
00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:48,351
They never made the case.
He resigned.
275
00:12:52,397 --> 00:12:54,816
Even a hero needs a pension,
Barry.
276
00:12:55,233 --> 00:12:57,26
This is what you wanted
to talk about?
277
00:12:57,193 --> 00:12:59,195
How much is your pension?
278
00:13:00,530 --> 00:13:01,739
(Buren)
You don't have one.
279
00:13:02,156 --> 00:13:05,451
You didn't do 20 years.
Your career was over in 16.
280
00:13:06,327 --> 00:13:08,621
We're having a problem
with your statement.
281
00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:11,916
You see, Barry, you said you never talked
to Sid Fisher.
282
00:13:12,83 --> 00:13:16,254
You said Mrs. Fisher and her son were under
your full-time surveillance.
283
00:13:16,421 --> 00:13:21,342
Trouble is, somebody called Mr. Fisher the night
before the broadcast.
284
00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:22,969
From a pay phone at the hotel.
285
00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:25,972
Now either you called,
or you know who did.
286
00:13:26,597 --> 00:13:30,310
One last shot at the Sergeant's Exam.
Check the box.
287
00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:34,522
Is accessory to murder
an Aor aB felony?
288
00:13:35,106 --> 00:13:36,733
| lost my pencil.
289
00:13:37,734 --> 00:13:39,736
The call was made, Barry.
290
00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:43,948
You were a cop, work your own testimony,
see where it leads.
291
00:13:49,454 --> 00:13:50,496
[sighs]
292
00:13:52,623 --> 00:13:54,250
| got four kids.
293
00:13:54,751 --> 00:13:56,377
| needed the job.
294
00:13:57,587 --> 00:14:01,591
| didn't call Fisher.
| didn't tell Mrs. Fisher where the show was.
295
00:14:02,717 --> 00:14:03,551
The night before...
296
00:14:03,718 --> 00:14:07,180
Rick's on the phone at the hotel.
He's on the phone with his lawyer.
297
00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:08,598
I'm worried.
298
00:14:08,765 --> 00:14:12,477
We know Fisher is wired,
he slugged the shrink at the trial.
299
00:14:12,894 --> 00:14:15,897
| heard he pistol-whipped
some kid in the Army.
300
00:14:16,64 --> 00:14:17,732
| hear Rick say to the lawyer:
301
00:14:17,899 --> 00:14:20,193
"We talked about this.
What do you want me to do?
302
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,652
"Cancel the show?
303
00:14:21,819 --> 00:14:25,406
If it happens, just tell me
what kind of trouble I'm in."
304
00:14:26,574 --> 00:14:28,951
| figured
I'd better clean my gun.
305
00:14:34,916 --> 00:14:38,86
Take a breath, Detective.
This is completely absurd.
306
00:14:38,252 --> 00:14:40,546
What am | hearing?
That you're investigating my client?
307
00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:42,590
On the word of a crooked
ex-cop?
308
00:14:42,757 --> 00:14:45,593
Who was crooked when you hired him.
And when | fired him.
309
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,553
Did he tell you that?
Day after the show.
310
00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,640
Barry Talbott was hired
to protect my client's guests.
311
00:14:50,807 --> 00:14:52,934
| told Barry, heads-up...
312
00:14:53,101 --> 00:14:56,562
Fisher could track his wife.
Why do you think | wanted Fisher on the show?
313
00:14:56,729 --> 00:15:00,24
We get him there,
we could've made sure he didn't have a gun.
314
00:15:00,191 --> 00:15:04,237
The day it happened,
you were surprised he owned a gun.
315
00:15:04,779 --> 00:15:07,281
The idea that my client
is responsible--
316
00:15:07,448 --> 00:15:09,575
Your client?
Check your shorts.
317
00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:13,579
Mr. Talbott tells us that Mr. Mason called you
before the shooting.
318
00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:15,832
Says you knew about
the mystery guest.
319
00:15:15,998 --> 00:15:18,167
One, no such conversation.
320
00:15:18,543 --> 00:15:21,254
Two, this imaginary conversation
took place?
321
00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:24,48
Privileged. Three,
if Talbott overheard it. ..
322
00:15:24,215 --> 00:15:28,261
privilege extends to him as an employee
of my client. Close your notebook.
323
00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:30,263
The interview is over.
324
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,265
She denied talking to him?
325
00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:34,142
Oh, but you should have seen
the look on her face.
326
00:15:34,308 --> 00:15:35,643
This is one scared lady.
327
00:15:35,810 --> 00:15:39,188
The D.A. says it's not enough. Dirty ex-cop?
Not a great witness.
328
00:15:39,355 --> 00:15:41,524
Look, we know
Mason set this up.
329
00:15:41,691 --> 00:15:44,527
He wanted the guy shot,
he somehow got the father there.
330
00:15:44,694 --> 00:15:47,613
Mason, all these guys,
they'll do anything for higher ratings.
331
00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:49,323
So, that's what's going down.
332
00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:52,201
Somebody gets killed,
these guys break out the champagne.
333
00:15:52,368 --> 00:15:55,329
We can't prove that.
We don't know who called the father from the hotel.
334
00:15:55,496 --> 00:15:59,167
Fisher's wife. Mason called her.
Or he told the kid.
335
00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:01,919
That makes no sense.
Sarah Fisher protecting Mason?
336
00:16:02,86 --> 00:16:04,172
If she knew he set it up,
why won't she tell us?
337
00:16:04,338 --> 00:16:06,07
Who knows why this lady
does anything?
338
00:16:06,174 --> 00:16:08,342
Why'd she bring her kid
on TV in the first place?
339
00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:11,762
"Hello, America, here's my molested son,
watch him suffer."
340
00:16:11,929 --> 00:16:15,16
We have shrinks on the payroll.
Give them a call.
341
00:16:17,143 --> 00:16:20,313
You're asking me to explain the behavior
of a woman I've never met.
342
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,316
(Logan)
Look, we need an idea, someplace to start.
343
00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:26,777
| usually try and avoid
making diagnhoses over lunch.
344
00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:33,743
Okay, this is speculation.
What did Mason do for Sarah Fisher?
345
00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:35,786
He gave her an obituary.
346
00:16:35,953 --> 00:16:39,499
She wanted Vinton dead?
| don't think so. He molested her son.
347
00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:42,668
And in a way she was molested,
too. She goes on TV, she gets support.
348
00:16:42,835 --> 00:16:45,46
She even gets applause.
She doesn't want Vinton dead.
349
00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:46,797
she wants to do
Oprah and Donahue with him.
350
00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:48,257
That's her way
of getting through it.
351
00:16:48,424 --> 00:16:51,10
Then she wouldn't have helped
her husband kill Vinton.
352
00:16:51,177 --> 00:16:52,428
No, but her son might.
353
00:16:52,595 --> 00:16:55,181
That makes more sense.
Mason tells the kid...
354
00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:56,682
the kid phones his father.
355
00:16:56,849 --> 00:17:00,186
She's not protecting Mason.
She's protecting her son.
356
00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:04,732
You're making it worse
by being here.
357
00:17:04,899 --> 00:17:07,68
Your husband
didn't do this alone.
358
00:17:07,235 --> 00:17:09,445
Mason picked you and Scott
for a reason.
359
00:17:09,612 --> 00:17:13,74
| watched his shows.
| guess | should have realized...
360
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,369
| really can't tell you
anything.
361
00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:19,330
You knew what your husband
was planning...
362
00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:23,626
and you called him. That makes you
a coconspirator and you could be indicted.
363
00:17:23,793 --> 00:17:26,629
Mom, don't--
Scotty! | don't know anything.
364
00:17:26,796 --> 00:17:29,549
Mason went to the hotel
and he told you to call your husband.
365
00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:31,884
(Briscoe)
Did he tell you it would make a better show?
366
00:17:32,51 --> 00:17:35,513
Did he offer you money?
Did he tell you your husband was going to shoot Vinton?
367
00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,557
Unless, of course,
he talked to you, Scott.
368
00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:39,809
Scotty, | don't think
you should be here right now.
369
00:17:39,976 --> 00:17:40,810
Mom, you don't have to--
370
00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:43,938
It doesn't matter
who Mr. Mason talked to. ..
371
00:17:44,105 --> 00:17:45,856
it's too late now.
372
00:17:46,23 --> 00:17:46,941
[sighs]
373
00:17:47,108 --> 00:17:50,69
Neither of us should have been alone
with him.
374
00:17:50,486 --> 00:17:52,697
We shouldn't be alone
with you.
375
00:17:53,489 --> 00:17:54,615
[telephones ringing]
376
00:17:54,782 --> 00:17:57,34
Olivet's right.
She's not giving up her son.
377
00:17:57,201 --> 00:18:02,39
Mason's gonna get away with this.
Do you think the D.A.'s gonna touch this?
378
00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:04,917
Nah, guys like Mason
don't go to jail.
379
00:18:05,84 --> 00:18:08,04
They go to country clubs
and they get awards.
380
00:18:08,337 --> 00:18:11,716
Yeah,
what did Sarah Fisher say?
381
00:18:12,383 --> 00:18:15,469
She watched his shows,
so she should have known.
382
00:18:16,53 --> 00:18:19,307
So?
So, do you watch his show? | don't.
383
00:18:19,473 --> 00:18:22,476
Maybe we should. Maybe the guy's got
some bad habits we don't know about.
384
00:18:22,643 --> 00:18:24,145
Yeah,
that'll get us an arrest.
385
00:18:24,312 --> 00:18:28,274
It might get us something that will convince
the D.A. that this guy set up a murder.
386
00:18:31,694 --> 00:18:32,862
| never watch
the competition.
387
00:18:33,29 --> 00:18:34,280
Hey, this isn't
a press conference.
388
00:18:34,447 --> 00:18:36,198
Mason's a major player
in this industry.
389
00:18:36,365 --> 00:18:39,76
Mr. Hudson, we're interested
in opinions, not resumes.
390
00:18:39,243 --> 00:18:41,78
And this is
a murder investigation.
391
00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:43,789
Well, which opinion would you like?
Mason's Nielsens were down?
392
00:18:43,956 --> 00:18:48,461
Read it in Variety. Which comes first?
His conviction or his Emmy?
393
00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:53,633
Well, what are you, new?
Nobody in the business was surprised.
394
00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:55,551
You see that woman in Florida?
395
00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:57,637
Husband shoots her
at their daughter's grave.
396
00:18:57,803 --> 00:18:59,639
Same day network news.
397
00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:01,265
I'd sell my poodle
for that kind of hype.
398
00:19:01,432 --> 00:19:04,18
And shooting a child molester
is even better.
399
00:19:04,185 --> 00:19:05,353
Cable operators are asking...
400
00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:08,689
the State of Nevada to televise executions
pay-per-view.
401
00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:10,149
Snuff for you?
402
00:19:10,316 --> 00:19:13,986
Smell blood yet?
Television 101, no jeopardy, no viewers.
403
00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:16,614
No viewers, no sponsors. No sponsors--
No money.
404
00:19:16,781 --> 00:19:19,784
Oh, no, marquee. The marquee,
his name over the title.
405
00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:22,912
Without a show, Mason's nothing
but letterhead.
406
00:19:24,121 --> 00:19:26,916
| Know a girl, Debby Corrio.
Sweet kid.
407
00:19:27,792 --> 00:19:31,754
She used to work for him.
She'll take you backstage.
408
00:19:32,463 --> 00:19:35,383
Why does everyone think
| was fired? | quit.
409
00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:37,426
Better job?
Better life.
410
00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:39,11
| couldn't take
another minute.
411
00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:41,681
What's on 4:30?
Final Confession.
412
00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:44,141
5:00, last rites.
413
00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:47,353
Nobody ever got shot on his show.
It was coming.
414
00:19:48,813 --> 00:19:50,64
You know the Pulisi trial?
415
00:19:50,231 --> 00:19:53,651
He had one of the jurors on.
Four days later, the man disappeared.
416
00:19:53,818 --> 00:19:56,862
Hey, a mob-trial juror goes on TV?
He's asking for it.
417
00:19:57,29 --> 00:20:00,700
You should have seen Mason
trying to convince him he'd be safe.
418
00:20:01,492 --> 00:20:03,494
Eight months ago
we were doing this spot.
419
00:20:03,661 --> 00:20:06,539
| found a diva, 19,
has an act in The Village.
420
00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:09,500
| say, "Rick Mason wants you to sing
oh his show."
421
00:20:09,667 --> 00:20:11,252
So, she's in heaven.
422
00:20:11,419 --> 00:20:15,05
No, he's at Bergdorf's picking out
3 little black dress.
423
00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:17,07
He's wearing a dress. So?
424
00:20:17,883 --> 00:20:19,760
You want to see why | quit?
425
00:20:19,927 --> 00:20:21,303
I'll get you the tape.
426
00:20:21,971 --> 00:20:24,14
| don't care if he's a bully.
It's not admissible.
427
00:20:24,181 --> 00:20:25,725
We're not talking
admissibility.
428
00:20:25,891 --> 00:20:29,186
It's motive. They're trying to give you
a reason to make the case.
429
00:20:29,353 --> 00:20:30,730
Watch this.
430
00:20:32,857 --> 00:20:37,278
[audience applauding]
Sophie, Georgette and Mary.
431
00:20:37,945 --> 00:20:40,114
Boys who sing like girls.
432
00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:42,825
Tonight,
live on Final Confession.
433
00:20:42,992 --> 00:20:45,369
Stay with us.
Don't go away, we'll be right back.
434
00:20:45,536 --> 00:20:47,872
(technician)
We go to commercial.
435
00:20:50,666 --> 00:20:53,43
Mary? Is this what
you really want to do?
436
00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:54,628
| just wanted to sing,
Wr. Mason.
437
00:20:54,795 --> 00:20:58,382
But it's not you, Mary.
Don't you want to be yourself tonight?
438
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:59,759
| don't know...
439
00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:02,470
They love you.
Show them who you really are.
440
00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:06,223
They want you to be happy.
They told me. They're both here?
441
00:21:07,224 --> 00:21:09,560
Yeah, atta girl. All right, head's up.
We're coming back.
442
00:21:09,727 --> 00:21:12,980
(man)
in five, four, three....
443
00:21:13,522 --> 00:21:14,774
[audience applauding]
444
00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:17,359
Tonight,
{ive on Final Confession.
445
00:21:18,68 --> 00:21:21,405
Mary is really Tommy Turnev...
446
00:21:22,406 --> 00:21:24,33
and tonight...
447
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,994
she tells the two people
that love her the most.
448
00:21:27,161 --> 00:21:29,997
Howard? Elaine?
Would you come out, please?
449
00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:35,920
Do you recognize
this young lady?
450
00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:40,549
Dad...
451
00:21:42,176 --> 00:21:43,302
Tommy?
452
00:21:44,637 --> 00:21:46,13
[Howard pants]
453
00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:47,598
Oh, my God.
454
00:21:47,765 --> 00:21:49,58
Oh, no...
455
00:21:50,601 --> 00:21:53,813
The father walked out of the show
and had a coronary.
456
00:21:53,979 --> 00:21:56,607
The kid felt so guilty, a week later
he killed himself.
457
00:21:56,774 --> 00:21:58,442
Mason destroys people.
458
00:21:58,609 --> 00:22:01,821
It doesn't prove anything.
Claire, it proves who he is.
459
00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:05,783
We can't make this work,
all we got left is rubber hoses.
460
00:22:06,784 --> 00:22:08,702
You can hit him harder.
461
00:22:15,543 --> 00:22:17,419
You can't be serious.
462
00:22:17,586 --> 00:22:19,296
You don't think
we should go after him?
463
00:22:19,463 --> 00:22:22,466
What he does may be sleazy,
but it's not criminal.
464
00:22:22,633 --> 00:22:24,468
If he arranged a murder,
itis.
465
00:22:24,635 --> 00:22:27,555
You can't believe that Mason knew Fisher
was coming with a gun.
466
00:22:27,721 --> 00:22:30,99
Miss Kincaid, he wanted
to get the man there.
467
00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:32,184
Expected a fistfight,
got a homicide.
468
00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:35,437
If intent to cause injury
causes death, it's man one.
469
00:22:35,604 --> 00:22:37,22
At the least,
it's facilitation.
470
00:22:37,189 --> 00:22:38,983
How do we prove facilitation?
471
00:22:39,149 --> 00:22:42,194
You're not suggesting we offer the father a deal
for his son's testimony?
472
00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:44,363
Why not?
He gets man one anyway.
473
00:22:44,530 --> 00:22:47,157
And no jury convicts
oh murder two.
474
00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:50,870
Half the country wants to name him
Father of the Year.
475
00:22:51,36 --> 00:22:52,872
You know what Mason'll do.
476
00:22:53,38 --> 00:22:55,457
Call himself a journalist and wrap himself
in the First Amendment.
477
00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:59,03
Well, let him wrap himself in the American flag.
He's not Tom Brokaw.
478
00:22:59,169 --> 00:23:03,90
By the way, Adam, the father fired his lawyer.
He's going pro se.
479
00:23:03,257 --> 00:23:04,341
Jerk.
480
00:23:04,842 --> 00:23:07,344
So, | figure we offer him a deal,
he doesn't want to take it. ..
481
00:23:07,511 --> 00:23:09,722
we say we're adding his son
to the charge.
482
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:12,975
It's not the father
we're after, it's Mason.
483
00:23:13,142 --> 00:23:14,685
We're not going to
indict the kid to get him.
484
00:23:14,852 --> 00:23:17,563
No, but the father
doesn't know that.
485
00:23:18,522 --> 00:23:19,857
Let's hope.
486
00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:23,27
My son had nothing to do
with it.
487
00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:24,570
[sighs]
488
00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:28,282
Well, we think that your wife
will testify otherwise.
489
00:23:29,199 --> 00:23:30,784
Not against my son.
490
00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:34,705
Mr. Fisher...
491
00:23:35,998 --> 00:23:39,752
if your son did help you
get to Dr. Vinton...
492
00:23:40,794 --> 00:23:42,421
he's an accessory.
493
00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:45,49
He will go to Spofford.
494
00:23:45,215 --> 00:23:47,259
| shot a man on principle.
495
00:23:48,844 --> 00:23:51,347
You torment my son
in front of me...
496
00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:56,852
You have no principles.
And you speak for the State.
497
00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:00,564
We'll see you in court.
498
00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:04,735
We'll provide you with help
for your defense.
499
00:24:07,696 --> 00:24:11,992
If you leave my son alone,
I'll tell you what you want to know.
500
00:24:15,579 --> 00:24:18,958
The offer is manslaughter
in the first degree, you do 8-to-25...
501
00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:22,378
if you tell the truth and
if your testimony is useful. That is the deal.
502
00:24:22,544 --> 00:24:27,216
The deal is my son never appears in court,
for any reason.
503
00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:29,218
Agreed?
504
00:24:29,385 --> 00:24:31,220
| can promise that
he won't be indicted.
505
00:24:31,387 --> 00:24:33,555
| cannot promise you that he won't appear
as withess.
506
00:24:33,722 --> 00:24:36,266
You don't need him
as 3 withess.
507
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:42,231
Mason called a couple of weeks
before the show.
508
00:24:44,108 --> 00:24:46,443
Said Sarah was dragging
Scotty on.
509
00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:48,570
Humiliate him.
510
00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:53,200
Vinton sells a million books, laughs till he cries.
What am | going to do?
511
00:24:54,34 --> 00:24:58,789
He told me it was at Waverly.
| went and shot the son of a bitch.
512
00:24:58,956 --> 00:25:00,249
(Stone)
That's a lie, sir.
513
00:25:01,917 --> 00:25:05,421
| told you the deal depends
on you telling the truth.
514
00:25:06,130 --> 00:25:07,798
| cannot let you
commit perjury.
515
00:25:07,965 --> 00:25:12,52
| am not dragging Scotty
through anything else, do you hear me?
516
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,389
My boy had to testify
against Vinton.
517
00:25:16,724 --> 00:25:20,60
He never appears in court again
the rest of his life.
518
00:25:21,395 --> 00:25:24,565
| didn't get any calls,
| didn't talk to anybody.
519
00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:33,907
We can't use him. He'll lie.
520
00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:37,536
He probably
did talk to Mason.
521
00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:40,914
Well, that's not the whole truth
and we both know it.
522
00:25:41,81 --> 00:25:45,377
He laid it all on Mason to keep it away
from his son, and Mason's smart.
523
00:25:45,836 --> 00:25:50,466
He used the son to incite the father,
makes facilitation that much harder to prove.
524
00:25:50,632 --> 00:25:54,470
Plus, he could figure that the Fishers would
never want the kid back in the limelight.
525
00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:56,138
But without him,
there's no case.
526
00:25:56,305 --> 00:25:57,848
This family...
527
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,644
They haven't been in the same room
together in three years.
528
00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:11,28
Mrs. Fisher, we believe that you and your son
conspired with your husband.
529
00:26:11,195 --> 00:26:13,447
Scott talked to your husband
before the shooting.
530
00:26:13,614 --> 00:26:17,284
We're certain you knew it and if we have to,
we'll charge you both as accessories.
531
00:26:17,451 --> 00:26:19,787
So, Scott, help your dad.
532
00:26:20,454 --> 00:26:22,623
Tell the truth and
he gets out of prison sooner.
533
00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:25,292
Scotty.
I'm done controlling myself.
534
00:26:26,502 --> 00:26:28,921
Dad said it's okay
to feel that way.
535
00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:33,592
Mr. Mason told me
where it was going to be.
536
00:26:37,721 --> 00:26:39,306
| called my dad.
537
00:26:43,102 --> 00:26:44,686
This way, please.
538
00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:46,188
[people chattering]
539
00:26:46,355 --> 00:26:48,232
[typewriters clacking]
540
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:52,277
What is this?
What are you doing here?
541
00:26:52,444 --> 00:26:53,904
[door closing]
542
00:26:55,30 --> 00:26:56,323
| thought
we were closing a deal.
543
00:26:56,490 --> 00:26:58,700
Your son just cut a new deal
for you.
544
00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:00,869
You had to put it on him.
545
00:27:01,370 --> 00:27:03,497
Is this today's solution?
Blame it on our son?
546
00:27:03,664 --> 00:27:08,85
Don't dump this on me.
| put him in therapy, you put him in a murder trial.
547
00:27:08,252 --> 00:27:11,04
Sid, there's no justice.
At least we can have recovery.
548
00:27:11,171 --> 00:27:13,549
Keep your recovery.
| got revenge.
549
00:27:14,466 --> 00:27:16,385
This is finished.
Dad, don't do that.
550
00:27:16,552 --> 00:27:20,13
Scotty's telling the truth,
he called Sid.
551
00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:22,683
He told me after it happened.
552
00:27:24,101 --> 00:27:25,394
You wanted corroboration.
553
00:27:25,561 --> 00:27:29,106
You said you'd threaten the father,
you threatened the son.
554
00:27:29,273 --> 00:27:32,192
Alice Hutton finds out, she'll have a hayride
On Cross.
555
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,237
Was there any other choice?
Now we look like carnival hucksters.
556
00:27:35,404 --> 00:27:38,490
"Want a deal? Take a number.
You too can get a piece of the movie rights."
557
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:40,325
Nobody said
this was an easy Case.
558
00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:43,78
Conspiracy without collusion?
But you've got to make a point.
559
00:27:43,245 --> 00:27:46,123
Which is?
You treat people like animal acts...
560
00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:47,833
one of them dies,
you go to jail.
561
00:27:48,00 --> 00:27:50,836
Well, | just hope
we don't look ridiculous.
562
00:27:51,253 --> 00:27:54,965
Oh, I'd wear clown make-up
if | thought it'd get me a conviction.
563
00:27:57,92 --> 00:27:58,10
[people chattering]
564
00:27:58,177 --> 00:28:02,598
"Docket number 62397,
The People v. Richard Mason.
565
00:28:02,764 --> 00:28:07,603
Charges are manslaughter,
first degree, criminal facilitation, first degree."
566
00:28:08,145 --> 00:28:09,438
So, Miss Hutton?
567
00:28:09,605 --> 00:28:11,815
Your Honor,
in view of the absurdity of these charges...
568
00:28:11,982 --> 00:28:13,567
my client would like
to make a statement.
569
00:28:13,734 --> 00:28:17,946
In my defense, Your Honor,
| point to my career in journalism...
570
00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:19,573
the respect
of my colleagues.
571
00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:21,783
Sir, | have no idea
who you are.
572
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:26,163
Miss Hutton, I'm not going
to dismiss charges before they get to grand jury.
573
00:28:26,330 --> 00:28:28,498
Prompt your client
to enter a plea or enter it for him.
574
00:28:28,665 --> 00:28:30,209
Not guilty on both counts.
575
00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:31,585
Ms. Kincaid?
576
00:28:31,752 --> 00:28:34,588
We don't think bail
will affect Mr. Mason's appearance at trial.
577
00:28:34,755 --> 00:28:38,383
The People ask for $100,000.
We find that acceptable, Your Honor.
578
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:42,137
Such reasonable people.
Who says no happy families?
579
00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:46,225
And Mr. Mason, stay in character if you want,
but please, stay in town.
580
00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:47,476
Next.
581
00:28:48,352 --> 00:28:50,479
Who are you?
| speak for the people.
582
00:28:50,646 --> 00:28:54,66
| gave the Fishers their real day in court.
You're a public servant.
583
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:56,443
Your system gave a molester
18 months.
584
00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:58,362
You serve the public
better than | do?
585
00:28:58,528 --> 00:29:00,113
| didn't arrange
to have him killed.
586
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,866
Neither did my client.
He had no motive.
587
00:29:03,283 --> 00:29:06,787
Your client saw an opportunity, Alice.
I'm an opportunist?
588
00:29:06,954 --> 00:29:09,957
Thirty-eight people were shot
in courtrooms last year.
589
00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:12,584
The show you're staging
is no different than mine.
590
00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:16,338
Mr. Mason, please focus.
This is not a show.
591
00:29:16,505 --> 00:29:19,508
You have a camera, | have Attica.
Take arest.
592
00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:23,720
| didn't get my nap today either.
Geraldo had Nazis on the show...
593
00:29:23,887 --> 00:29:28,58
he started a brawl, nobody indicted him.
Nobody got shot on his show.
594
00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:31,937
Now, I'm willing to discuss
a plea at the lowest charge.
595
00:29:32,104 --> 00:29:34,273
Go ahead, pick that scab.
596
00:29:35,315 --> 00:29:38,360
I'll see you in court.
Don't be late, it's live.
597
00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:44,658
By the way, that phone conversation the
security guard overheard...
598
00:29:44,825 --> 00:29:46,159
Mr. Talbott?
599
00:29:46,326 --> 00:29:50,205
| was on the phone with my client.
You'll never get it admitted.
600
00:29:54,42 --> 00:29:55,43
(Hutton)
The call is privileged.
601
00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:56,837
Mr. Talbott worked
for my client. In essence...
602
00:29:57,04 --> 00:29:59,673
he was my client.
Oh, really? On what grounds?
603
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,634
He was a necessary agent to my client
conducting his business.
604
00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:05,721
The necessary agent theory?
Fine for the law journals, Alice.
605
00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:07,347
We don't make law here,
we uphold it.
606
00:30:07,514 --> 00:30:09,99
My client didn't expect
to be overheard.
607
00:30:09,266 --> 00:30:11,393
McCormick on Evidence,
he thought the call was private...
608
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,269
he didn't waive privilege.
609
00:30:12,436 --> 00:30:14,313
It was a public telephone.
610
00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:17,691
Attorney-client privilege
is one of those great zones of privacy, however--
611
00:30:17,858 --> 00:30:20,152
Your Honor, I--
Sit down, Alice.
612
00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:23,113
| don't see how it applies here.
And the jury has a choice.
613
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,991
They don't have to believe a word
Mr. Talbott says.
614
00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:29,328
The testimony on the call is admitted.
Let's go to trial.
615
00:30:32,39 --> 00:30:35,83
Alice, that phone call,
Talbott isn't lying, is he?
616
00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:38,754
That conversation was privileged.
This isn't about privilege.
617
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,715
Prove my actions were improper,
bring me up for disbarment.
618
00:30:41,882 --> 00:30:44,843
If | could prove it, it would be accessory
to manslaughter.
619
00:30:45,10 --> 00:30:47,304
Who appointed you
Saint Francis of Assisi?
620
00:30:47,471 --> 00:30:49,806
It must be thrilling to occupy
such high moral ground.
621
00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:51,16
You're an officer
of the court.
622
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:54,519
It sounds like you were discussing
the possibility of murder with your client.
623
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,938
Really? You want to try
proving any of that?
624
00:30:57,105 --> 00:30:58,148
You're desperate.
625
00:30:58,315 --> 00:31:01,234
Talk shows have been on 20 hours a week
for the past 10 years.
626
00:31:01,401 --> 00:31:03,695
First time somebody gets shot,
you call it manslaughter?
627
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:07,741
It's what a jury calls it that counts.
This prosecution's a hummer.
628
00:31:07,908 --> 00:31:09,910
| don't Know how you look at yourself
in the mirror.
629
00:31:10,77 --> 00:31:12,204
I'm a Catholic,
| can feel guilty about anything.
630
00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:16,83
But I'll bet my conscience
is easier to live with than yours.
631
00:31:17,00 --> 00:31:18,668
[vehicles honking]
632
00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:24,299
Now, what will the defendant
tell you?
633
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,969
That he covers the news.
634
00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:33,141
But in this case,
he didn't cover the news, he made it.
635
00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:37,479
Now, let's be clear
about the motive.
636
00:31:38,438 --> 00:31:41,483
(Stone)
Nothing draws people to their television sets. ..
637
00:31:41,650 --> 00:31:44,194
nothing is more magnetic
than violence.
638
00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:46,863
And each year,
the stakes go up.
639
00:31:47,864 --> 00:31:50,534
You had a fistfight
on your show last year...
640
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,662
now who's going to watch
if that happens again?
641
00:31:53,829 --> 00:31:56,373
The higher the stakes,
the higher the ratings.
642
00:31:56,540 --> 00:32:00,710
The higher the ratings, the more money
goes into Mr. Mason's pockets.
643
00:32:02,212 --> 00:32:05,215
And these stakes
are human lives.
644
00:32:07,92 --> 00:32:09,511
Not just the life
of Dr. Vinton...
645
00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:12,639
but the lives of
the entire Fisher family.
646
00:32:14,349 --> 00:32:19,271
Now, Mr. Mason brought them together as
you would gasoline and fire.
647
00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:22,566
And he waited
for the explosion.
648
00:32:24,67 --> 00:32:27,362
The People will prove
that the explosion came...
649
00:32:28,238 --> 00:32:31,366
because the defendant
deliberately lit the match.
650
00:32:34,453 --> 00:32:37,831
Mr. Stone has a strange notion
of human behavior.
651
00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:42,544
The defendant, he believes,
is responsible for what other people do.
652
00:32:43,170 --> 00:32:45,547
He says, let's be clear
about motive.
653
00:32:45,714 --> 00:32:48,508
| suggest, let's be clear
about the facts.
654
00:32:49,50 --> 00:32:53,54
Here's what you'll learn from the witnesses.
The defendant didn't fire a gun.
655
00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:55,474
He didn't put a gun in anyone's hand,
he didn't coerce. ..
656
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,18
anyone to appear
on his program.
657
00:32:59,144 --> 00:33:01,563
And | remind you
of one other fact.
658
00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:05,692
Long before the defendant
ever met the Fisher family...
659
00:33:05,859 --> 00:33:08,904
Scott Fisher's father
attacked Joseph Vinton.
660
00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:14,159
Did Richard Mason provoke
Mr. Fisher to fire a gun?
661
00:33:15,535 --> 00:33:18,830
Or was he provoked
in a courtroom...
662
00:33:19,623 --> 00:33:22,501
long before Richard Mason
ever heard of him?
663
00:33:25,212 --> 00:33:27,380
That phone call
scared the hell out of me.
664
00:33:27,547 --> 00:33:29,841
What specifically worried you?
665
00:33:30,08 --> 00:33:32,427
Mr. Mason always said
Fisher might show up.
666
00:33:32,594 --> 00:33:35,805
When he asked his lawyer
what kind of trouble he'll be in...
667
00:33:35,972 --> 00:33:37,766
| figure he knows for sure.
668
00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:40,936
Did you do anything about your concerns?
Well, | told him:
669
00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:44,105
"Let me hire an extra man."
He said, "Forget it.
670
00:33:44,272 --> 00:33:49,152
Fisher comes, I'll let the guy talk."
| said, "The guy's nuts...
671
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,572
anything can happen.”
And what did Mr. Mason say to that?
672
00:33:53,323 --> 00:33:56,117
He said, "We're doing a show.
Things are supposed to happen."
673
00:33:56,284 --> 00:33:58,411
Thank you. Your witness.
674
00:34:00,38 --> 00:34:02,332
So, Mr. Talbott, you thought
there'd be trouble?
675
00:34:02,499 --> 00:34:03,875
Did you call the police?
676
00:34:04,42 --> 00:34:07,587
| followed Mr. Mason's orders.
Did you follow orders as a cop?
677
00:34:07,754 --> 00:34:10,423
Why did you leave the Police Department?
Objection.
678
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:12,384
Is it true you resigned because--
679
00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:14,970
Miss Hutton.
Counsel will approach.
680
00:34:19,99 --> 00:34:21,142
When he objects,
you wait for my ruling.
681
00:34:21,309 --> 00:34:24,771
Now, Mr. Talbott wasn't convicted of a crime,
get near that again, you'll regret it.
682
00:34:24,938 --> 00:34:26,690
Objection sustained.
683
00:34:29,484 --> 00:34:33,655
Mr. Talbott, this call you say
you overheard.
684
00:34:34,114 --> 00:34:35,949
Did you mention it in your statement
to the police?
685
00:34:36,116 --> 00:34:37,617
No, | didn't.
686
00:34:37,784 --> 00:34:40,203
Well, you lied then,
or you're lying now.
687
00:34:40,370 --> 00:34:42,914
Is it true you no longer work
for Richard Mason...
688
00:34:43,81 --> 00:34:46,501
that you were fired the day after the shooting
of Joseph Vinton?
689
00:34:46,668 --> 00:34:48,962
Yeah, | was fired.
Well, you lied to the police.
690
00:34:49,129 --> 00:34:52,799
| wonder, are you angry enough
at Richard Mason to lie now?
691
00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:59,347
| didn't want my son on TV.
What did you tell Mr. Mason?
692
00:35:01,808 --> 00:35:06,605
| said, "You put Scotty on,
I'm gonna be there. It'll be trouble."
693
00:35:07,689 --> 00:35:12,193
Mason says, "It's news to America.
You don't like the news, make your own."
694
00:35:12,569 --> 00:35:15,572
And what did that mean to you?
Objection. Asks for conclusion.
695
00:35:15,739 --> 00:35:18,74
No, I'll allow it. Mr. Fisher?
696
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:20,744
It meant lump it.
697
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:24,748
He wanted me to come and attack Vinton.
Thank you. Your withess.
698
00:35:26,374 --> 00:35:29,836
So, you testified your son
told you where to go that day.
699
00:35:30,03 --> 00:35:34,466
Can you tell the court why wasn't Scott charged
as an accessory in this crime?
700
00:35:36,593 --> 00:35:37,344
| don't know.
701
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:40,597
Is that so? You said you
made a deal with Mr. Stone.
702
00:35:40,764 --> 00:35:43,850
You'd implicate Mr. Mason
in exchange for a reduced sentence.
703
00:35:44,17 --> 00:35:46,353
Was your son a part
of that deal?
704
00:35:49,22 --> 00:35:52,275
They threatened to indict Scotty.
"They," Mr. Fisher?
705
00:35:52,442 --> 00:35:54,736
Mr. Stone,
the District Attorney.
706
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,73
He said he'd indict my son.
707
00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:02,994
Compelling incentive.
If my son were threatened, I'd say anything.
708
00:36:03,328 --> 00:36:04,663
No further questions.
709
00:36:04,829 --> 00:36:07,666
Mason did it!
He made Scotty call me.
710
00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:10,502
He's a parasite! He's filth!
Mr. Fisher!
711
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:14,589
The jury will ignore the witness's remark.
Strike it from the record.
712
00:36:14,756 --> 00:36:18,426
Redirect, Your Honor?
If the witness can control himself.
713
00:36:18,885 --> 00:36:23,56
Mr. Fisher, did you ever offer
to lie in your testimony?
714
00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:28,103
| wanted to say
Mason told me where to go.
715
00:36:30,63 --> 00:36:33,233
| wanted to say Scotty
had nothing to do with it.
716
00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:35,735
And how did | respond?
717
00:36:36,444 --> 00:36:41,157
You said that was perjury.
You said you couldn't let me do that.
718
00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:44,285
Thank you.
No further questions.
719
00:36:47,80 --> 00:36:50,41
It was at the hotel.
| was in my room.
720
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,01
And what did Mr. Mason
tell you?
721
00:36:52,168 --> 00:36:56,673
He said where the show
was gonna be...
722
00:36:57,48 --> 00:36:58,425
might be painful.
723
00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:03,12
And what did you say to that?
| told him | was scared ..
724
00:37:03,179 --> 00:37:05,265
about seeing Dr. Vinton.
725
00:37:05,974 --> 00:37:09,60
| didn't want to know
where it was.
726
00:37:10,186 --> 00:37:13,940
He said he had to tell me.
The Waverly, where Dr. Vinton...
727
00:37:14,107 --> 00:37:16,443
took me after the sessions.
728
00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:20,572
Did Mr. Mason explain to you
why he had to tell you where it was?
729
00:37:21,865 --> 00:37:24,200
He said my dad
ought to be there.
730
00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:29,622
He couldn't tell Dad
where the show was going to be, but | could.
731
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:36,87
He took me to
a pay phone downstairs and | called my dad.
732
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:38,715
Thanks, Scott. Your witness.
733
00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:45,472
| know this is difficult for you, Scott.
All we want you to do is tell the truth.
734
00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:49,684
Now, you met with Dr. Vinton for how long?
About three years.
735
00:37:49,851 --> 00:37:52,353
And did your mother ever
ask you about your sessions
with the doctor?
736
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,939
Objection. Relevance?
Goes to credibility.
737
00:37:55,106 --> 00:37:57,567
I'll allow it, but make
the connection quickly.
738
00:37:57,734 --> 00:38:01,696
Go on, Scott.
Sure, my mom asked me.
739
00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:05,784
And in three years you never told her
what Dr. Vinton did to you?
740
00:38:07,577 --> 00:38:10,914
No, she wanted me to go.
You wanted to please your mother...
741
00:38:11,80 --> 00:38:13,249
so you didn't tell the truth.
742
00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:16,294
You want to make it
sound like I'm lying.
743
00:38:16,461 --> 00:38:20,340
I'm not. Mr. Mason told me
to call my dad.
744
00:38:20,507 --> 00:38:23,92
| didn't know
what he was gonna do.
745
00:38:23,259 --> 00:38:25,470
Scott, didn't Mr. Stone
prepare you for today?
746
00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:27,347
Didn't he tell you exactly
what to say?
747
00:38:27,514 --> 00:38:31,184
He told me just like you,
to tell the truth.
748
00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:35,605
No further questions.
749
00:38:36,689 --> 00:38:38,900
She couldn't break him, Adam.
750
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:43,196
Ben, who said all cases are made
by prepping the witnesses?
751
00:38:43,363 --> 00:38:46,32
You did, | think. About 400 times.
Oh, yeah.
752
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:49,160
Ben, Mr. Mason
just held a press conference.
753
00:38:49,327 --> 00:38:50,787
He fully expects
to be acquitted.
754
00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:53,957
He's suing for false arrest
and malicious prosecution.
755
00:38:54,123 --> 00:38:55,750
$5 million in damages.
756
00:38:55,917 --> 00:38:57,585
Well, the last guy
that tried that with me...
757
00:38:57,752 --> 00:38:58,920
is still doing
three-to-nine.
758
00:38:59,87 --> 00:39:01,673
| wouldn't eat that canary
just yet.
759
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,802
It's a long trip from your witnesses
to motive and conviction.
760
00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:07,720
I'm pretty sure
Mr. Mason will get us there.
761
00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:10,557
Well, but he might be
a better performer than you.
762
00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:12,475
Certainly had
as much practice.
763
00:39:12,642 --> 00:39:14,894
Well, then |
can learn something.
764
00:39:18,898 --> 00:39:21,401
Why did you visit Scott
at the hotel that night?
765
00:39:21,568 --> 00:39:25,655
| spend time with all my subjects.
Especially a vulnerable 15-year-old.
766
00:39:25,822 --> 00:39:29,784
What did you tell Scott?
| reminded him how hard it would be.
767
00:39:31,35 --> 00:39:33,955
Frankly, | wanted to assure myself that
he wouldn't be damaged...
768
00:39:34,122 --> 00:39:37,166
and if | wasn't convinced,
| would have canceled the show.
769
00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:41,337
Did you tell him where
the show would be and ask him to call his father?
770
00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:43,965
Absolutely not.
| spoke to Mr. Fisher.
771
00:39:44,132 --> 00:39:46,301
Anyone could see the man
was dangerous.
772
00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:49,470
Did you instruct Barry Talbott
to curtail his vigilance in any way?
773
00:39:49,637 --> 00:39:51,180
The opposite.
774
00:39:51,347 --> 00:39:55,476
| was concerned that Mr. Fisher might find out
the location of the show.
775
00:39:55,643 --> 00:39:58,521
| told Mr. Talbott
to stop him at all costs.
776
00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:04,485
Mr. Mason, do you consider yourself to have
high professional standards?
777
00:40:04,652 --> 00:40:05,987
Yes, | do.
778
00:40:06,154 --> 00:40:09,449
There are some things
1 will not do in pursuit of a story.
779
00:40:10,116 --> 00:40:14,829
I've never used a hidden camera.
| don't surprise subjects in parking lots.
780
00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:18,41
And | don't pay
convicted felons.
781
00:40:18,499 --> 00:40:22,921
| might add that some of
my colleagues at the networks are not so particular.
782
00:40:23,546 --> 00:40:25,506
Thank you. Your witness.
783
00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:30,845
So, you have high professional
standards, sir, yet...
784
00:40:31,346 --> 00:40:34,682
you put the Fisher family on your show,
you knew that Mr. Fisher was dangerous.
785
00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:36,184
Is that a high standard?
786
00:40:36,351 --> 00:40:39,395
| took every precaution.
Didn't you provoke Mr. Fisher?
787
00:40:39,562 --> 00:40:42,607
Didn't you refuse
to hire additional security?
788
00:40:42,774 --> 00:40:45,610
Didn't you manipulate Scott Fisher?
None of that is true.
789
00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:48,821
What about guests on your previous shows?
Didn't you arrange to have--
790
00:40:48,988 --> 00:40:50,990
Objection. May we approach?
791
00:40:55,78 --> 00:40:58,247
Mr. Mason's past programs are irrelevant.
It goes to motive, Your Honor.
792
00:40:58,414 --> 00:41:00,875
And they're inadmissible.
Put it in your pocket, Ben.
793
00:41:01,42 --> 00:41:03,711
| didn't let her do it to your witness,
you don't do it to hers.
794
00:41:03,878 --> 00:41:05,630
Objection sustained.
795
00:41:13,429 --> 00:41:14,764
Mr. Stone?
796
00:41:16,724 --> 00:41:19,936
Are you telling this court, sir,
that you feel no responsibility...
797
00:41:20,103 --> 00:41:21,145
for the death of Dr. Vinton?
798
00:41:21,312 --> 00:41:25,900
It was a tragedy, but | would never knowingly
put anyone's life in danger.
799
00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:30,738
Judge, you can't allow this.
You want to go in the back door?
800
00:41:30,905 --> 00:41:32,156
Your client opened the door.
801
00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:35,326
Hello there,
send the arguments toward my door.
802
00:41:37,286 --> 00:41:40,623
Mr. Stone tried to sneak in
character testimony before.
803
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:43,960
He wanted to tarnish my client
but you said no.
804
00:41:44,127 --> 00:41:47,755
Mr. Mason's past programs
haven't suddenly become relevant.
805
00:41:47,922 --> 00:41:49,757
But they have,
Alice. Mason lied.
806
00:41:49,924 --> 00:41:52,468
He said he never put anyone in danger.
He did.
807
00:41:52,802 --> 00:41:57,598
He said "knowingly."
He would never knowingly put anyone in danger.
808
00:41:58,16 --> 00:41:59,267
Ben, you have rebuttal
on this?
809
00:41:59,434 --> 00:42:00,435
(Stone)
| do, Your Honor.
810
00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:02,895
A witness who was there
and she'll testify.
811
00:42:03,62 --> 00:42:05,64
It's grossly prejudicial.
812
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:09,569
People v. Zackowitz,
Benjamin Cardozo on the New York Court of Appeals.
813
00:42:09,736 --> 00:42:11,362
What about Wigmore?
814
00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:14,574
Character is never an issue
unless the defendant chooses to make it one...
815
00:42:14,741 --> 00:42:18,36
which is what your client did.
It's too bad, he should have kept his mouth shut.
816
00:42:18,202 --> 00:42:19,454
I'm going to allow this...
817
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:22,415
but you better hope your witness knows
what she's talking about.
818
00:42:26,02 --> 00:42:27,795
We wanted the juror
from the Pulisi trial...
819
00:42:27,962 --> 00:42:31,215
to talk about
organized crime.
820
00:42:31,716 --> 00:42:34,343
We picked juror number six,
James Davis.
821
00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:38,97
And why did you want that particular juror
on your show?
822
00:42:38,681 --> 00:42:41,768
He was the one who pushed
the jury to convict.
823
00:42:41,934 --> 00:42:44,812
He said he would talk about it,
but he was afraid.
824
00:42:44,979 --> 00:42:48,941
Mr. Mason assured him that we'd alter his voice,
silhouette his face.
825
00:42:49,108 --> 00:42:51,527
(Stone)
And did Mr. Mason do that?
826
00:42:51,694 --> 00:42:53,154
Sure, he did.
827
00:42:54,72 --> 00:42:56,616
Then he invited Nick Pulisi’s son
onh the show.
828
00:42:56,783 --> 00:42:59,702
Mr. Davis didn't know
until halfway through.
829
00:43:00,703 --> 00:43:03,81
He disappeared
from a parking lot.
830
00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:09,253
They never found him.
831
00:43:12,715 --> 00:43:15,968
Were you involved in the show
that featured. ..
832
00:43:16,135 --> 00:43:18,888
prostitutes in Times Square?
833
00:43:19,55 --> 00:43:21,57
| helped find those girls.
834
00:43:21,682 --> 00:43:26,646
The day of the show one of them,
her name was Cheryl, she was a little tired.
835
00:43:27,396 --> 00:43:28,773
Mr. Mason was upset.
836
00:43:28,940 --> 00:43:32,110
The first time we talked to her, she was all lit up,
she was funny.
837
00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:34,904
Lit up, you mean
that she was on drugs?
838
00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:37,281
She was on cocaine.
839
00:43:38,699 --> 00:43:41,869
(Stone)
And what did Mr. Mason do to help her be funny?
840
00:43:42,36 --> 00:43:44,956
He gave her $300, told her
to take a little walk.
841
00:43:45,665 --> 00:43:47,125
Did she come back?
842
00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:48,42
Yeah.
843
00:43:49,252 --> 00:43:50,461
She was her old self.
844
00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:52,964
She was buzzed.
845
00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:57,635
We were just off the air
when she keeled over.
846
00:43:57,802 --> 00:43:59,971
Later, we found out
she bought some bad stuff.
847
00:44:00,138 --> 00:44:02,557
She barely made it
to the hospital.
848
00:44:03,808 --> 00:44:06,18
Miss Corrio,
one last question.
849
00:44:06,811 --> 00:44:10,106
How did Mr. Mason
react to that news?
850
00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:13,568
He said, "What a waste...
851
00:44:13,734 --> 00:44:15,903
too bad she didn't OD
onh the show."
852
00:44:16,70 --> 00:44:20,408
He said, "What we really needed was for
somebody to die on the air."
853
00:44:25,288 --> 00:44:28,291
On the first count of the indictment manslaughter
in the first degree...
854
00:44:28,457 --> 00:44:29,834
how does the jury find?
855
00:44:30,01 --> 00:44:32,628
We find the defendant
not guilty.
856
00:44:33,129 --> 00:44:34,589
(Steinman)
On the second count of the indictment,
857
00:44:34,755 --> 00:44:36,591
the charge
of criminal facilitation...
858
00:44:36,757 --> 00:44:39,468
in the first degree,
how does the jury find?
859
00:44:39,635 --> 00:44:41,512
We find the defendant guilty.
860
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,353
Move to continue bail
until sentencing.
861
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,272
Motion granted.
862
00:44:52,732 --> 00:44:54,442
[people chattering]
863
00:44:56,569 --> 00:44:58,946
(Mason)
I'm disappointed, but not only for myself.
864
00:44:59,113 --> 00:45:01,741
It's a sad day
for the First Amendment.
865
00:45:03,743 --> 00:45:05,995
He'll do 18 months,
better than nothing.
866
00:45:06,162 --> 00:45:08,289
Eighteen months is what Vinton got,
right?
867
00:45:08,456 --> 00:45:10,374
Mason could write his own book
in that time.
868
00:45:10,541 --> 00:45:13,377
Oh, he's off the air.
Oh, | don't know about that.
869
00:45:13,544 --> 00:45:16,631
Five hundred cable channels coming?
He could start the Prison Channel.
870
00:45:17,632 --> 00:45:18,883
[snickers]
871
00:45:19,50 --> 00:45:20,718
[woman chattering]
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