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I'm
a
my Music philosophy is creativity is a
welcoming thing.
As long as you love music,
you're welcome in this world of
producing.
Well, here we are in the hit factory. I
have my team Timbo here. Chris, my
engineer, been with me for years. Fetty
and Angel. Team Timbo. Part of Team
Timbo is a big expansion. But this is
the main hub. What are you seeing here
is I'm opening up to y'all and showing
you how I do it at home. This is what I
do with my crew. All my, you know, Angel
and Fetties, we all collectively be
together. We all work together through
our laptops. and how we our workflow is
just like a ongoing party. We just
transfer sounds to one another and just
cut the speakers on and jam out.
So, we're going to make music. We're
going to talk about the music and I'm
going to talk about some of my songs
that I already created that were hits
and talk about how I created them at the
time and what was my thought process.
We're going to we're going to record
vocals. We're going to show you how
melody is structured from a writer, from
me working with a writer, me working
with a artist. You're going to see all
of that in this class. But if you want
to know about the technical parts about
the EQing and producing, that's more
about going online tutorials about
plugins and other things. But you're
going to learn about filling. You're
going to learn about getting the groove
and enjoying one another. fellowship,
new producers, young producers, other if
you're up and coming, show me your work.
Show me what you got. Show me what it
is. Show me what you want to do.
I started using my mouth as an
instrument because when I tried to tell
people what I want or what I was looking
for or what I wanted to hear, I always
had a problem with articulating. But my
mouth was the easiest way to articulate
things for me when it comes to music. If
I can do the rhythm with my mouth first,
then I can duplicate it on a drum
machine. But the first part has to be in
my head and my mouth have to come out
with the sounds cuz it's in my head and
it just comes out. Take Are you That
somebody I use my mouth on that because
I wanted to do a roll and I knew I know
how to do this clicking sound. So I put
that in that and I just fill up the
space with my mouth. Cry me a river was
started with my mouth and then the song
was created around that. I started with
doing just the melody, just the the
melody of the song with my mouth and
then I layered it and then we added
instruments on top. So, a lot of times I
can start off with just my mouth to get
the basic melody and then I build around
that.
So, I would like to show you instead of
talking about it how I start from
scratch making a beat with my mouth.
All right,
take the last two bars loop.
Pay attention.
There you go.
All right.
Now, what I just did, I doubled my snap
and Chris is going to pan them like a a
Vshape.
There you go.
again. Pan Vshape.
M
you me
you you
You
m
you
m
All right.
All
right.
Pando's B shape.
All right. On this track, give me the uh
reverb and autotune.
More reverb.
Everyone,
everyone.
There you go.
Pano panel like a VJ. No two melody
sounds.
Whip
on.
Yeah.
Oh,
you
oh.
on a on a hill. Hey, give me the reverb
on this one.
And I'll auto
more reverb.
you
down
when you
when you
wake when you take me with you when you
Hey baby you All I got my
drink and get all I got my
we all I got my business.
She got me in a whisp.
All right.
Stop.
Now,
as you see,
I did melody, beat,
cymbals,
claps, snares, kicks,
and we could play it back. You can hear
what I did. And I start doing drops. And
I add around that if I like it and flip
my little vocals and just play. I just
do the little melody to give me a drive
or a groove so I can keep going. If I
want to build, if I want to add on it, I
just keep listening to it and I script
that little melody part off and add to
the beat. So, I'm more of a stack
person. I like to stack a lot of things.
If you don't know how to beat box,
everybody don't know how to beat box,
but everybody knows how to hum what
they're looking for or mimic or tell
somebody that knows how to do it. what
you're trying to get out. But most of
the time, everybody harms to themselves.
So, you can do that and build around
that. And you don't have to think it's
stupid because it's not stupid. It
actually starts to form a whole song.
You can really edit anything that you
do. So, just be free with it. That's the
whole beauty about making music. You can
be free.
I'm Timan and this is my master class.
So, what we going to do now, the beat
that I made earlier with my mouth, we
going to expand on that.
She got the boo. She got me. She got me
standing on my head again.
Let's play the loop.
I got to sync it.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
I got you. One, two, three. Am I Am I on
quick?
Mh.
Oh yeah.
I like that.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Moo.
Uh oh. Uh uh uh.
It's like a dope pad, but it needs like
some chords to go with it. Not long
chords, like
something to move. Got this straight
like um something something ill.
Something different than that. A
different sound.
That's cool. What what I did is just add
on what is there. I'm just adding just
filling the space in. Just filling in
what's already I did with my mouth with
digital or with my drum kits and just
trying to fill in the space and make it
keep the essence of the beat box there
but just not over cluttering it just
making it just special. That's what I
like about starting tracks with you like
that start with your voice cuz it's it's
a pretty cool concept cuz you have like
sound
like these sounds we could switch the
chords easily.
Yeah. Easy. You know, because there it's
not like there's sounds that are married
to a specific there's a key in there,
but they're not married to a specific
set of chords. And that's what's cool of
taking something with Tim's voice
and then we can take my voice out and
see what it's you know. You know,
just keep the beatbox or we keep those
melodies and then
reverse it.
Yeah. So, this this bass part is a
massive patch.
Um, and then I put it through the famous
kickstart side chain effect. Um,
I rolled off a little bit of the bass
and I just played.
It's just a solid preset for Massive.
Um, very great synthesizer.
And uh all I did was put the side chain
on and it kind of grew with what Tim was
doing with the beatbox and the groove.
Yeah. So, it's just a little bit of
texture with the vocal sample. Um we're
not necessarily committed to it, but
it's just a nice little texture that
inspired me right off the bat and we
added it. Um, for this one I use the
plugin called Tantra.
And I have this preset that we call the
Ransauce.
And I also filter the low end on it. Um,
and then on the other one, it's an
ethnic sample.
And I put it through what I call the 40
sauce. Basically, I'm desampling. It's
almost as if I'm filtering the top end
of the sample. And then I'm running it
through an EQ. and then also kickstart.
Um, and that's just texture. So, it's
not a lot like this one. Sometimes
you'll run through uh through samples
and they happen to be in a kin. There
isn't really a lot you could do. Um, and
they work out fine and you want to use
them as texture. So, this would be one
of them.
So, that's the original. And then,
so the side chain is pumping it a little
bit. And then the EQ makes it real
distant and kind of etheral. And then
the other one, this is the first texture
and dry. It's
so then when we put the rans on it
and the EQ,
it's kind of textured. It's meant to be
very tucked. You don't want all those
sounds to be very prominent. And again,
it might end up on it, it might not. It
might be used as a transition sound or
it might just end up not going anywhere,
but we have them.
We're a band
with laptops instead of instruments.
That's what it is.
That's crazy. Do that again.
So that could be a whole
What was that vocal? That low vocal.
That was you.
Oh, that was you. Someone play some low
vocal thing. Oh, no. It was this.
That's three parts.
One is a guitar.
I'm going to play with no effects.
First effect is actually one of those
side chains like Angel was saying
before. It's a different plugin, but
it's the same type of effect.
Almost makes a groove a little bit. Then
I have this compression. changes the
pitch a little bit so it sounds more
like it's coming from a tape.
Then I filter it,
taking some top end out of it.
This plugin, what it does is really
cool. It makes the sound, it's like a
sequencer, and I can decide what the
sound is going to do at certain parts of
the beat. So in here I have it set up in
a way that at the end of the bar the
sound is going to have a vinyl effect
like when a DJ scratches uh an album and
it goes down this effect.
So that that's what it does.
Next is some EQ. Um, just equalizing,
making sure I have all the frequencies
that I want so it's not fighting with
the other instruments. And the last
thing I add is this compressor. I just
did it when I was hearing it through the
speakers. I was doing it on my
headphones and it sounded fine. When I
heard in the speakers, I thought I
needed a little bit more punch in the
sound.
It's very subtle. It just adds a little
bit more high-end to it. And that and
then there's a vocal that is reverse.
Now it's the same thing as reverse, but
I lower it an octave.
I don't think there's I can tell you why
I decided to put that in it. It just I
was going through sounds and I heard
that vocal. it wasn't the same key and I
was like, "Wow, that sounds really
cool." Um, but it wasn't cool enough.
So, I think if you reverse any sound,
it's kind of a lazy way of making it
sound cool, but it's effective. You can
take anything as soon as you reverse it,
it just gives it this like magic to it.
And then
that's just a simple sound that I found.
I put a big reverb on it. Reason why is
because the sample the vocal sample
starts a little later. So I don't have
nothing on the down bit. So I added
that. And then when you put it with the
guitar
and then with the the beat
simple but sounds kind of cool.
These are some chords over top of that
baseline.
Chords
something over top of it. Just more than
a baseline.
You need something like that.
Yeah.
Amazing.
No.
Yeah, you doing right.
Yeah.
No, no,
Damn. I hear it's like Yeah,
it's high.
That was cool.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Yeah.
No, that ain't the right.
No. Hi. Go. Back up. The first The first
one you had was right. That was it.
Is the rhythm wrong?
Matter of fact, do another sound like
this.
What if I with a guitar?
Oo,
that sound good. It was putting me in a
trance.
I think it I think now I might need a
just to see a melody note to make sure
we don't over clutter. Yeah,
maybe Asian see if he come up with a
melody something like that.
Or I can do it.
Yes.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. I feel free in here. Oh man, there
hey,
I need autom
They want to test me on a woman.
It was you. It was me.
No,
no, no.
She was all
I would love to go. She was all my love
and with all my
baby. She was all my love and all my
love keep.
She got the poop. She got me. She got me
standing on my heading up. She got me
standing on my head.
She got me. She twisted up. She got me
standing on the corner baking up. She
got me standing on my head. Breaking it
up. She got me on my head. Break it up.
Hey, I need you talking, baby. Won't you
come and do that? I want you dancing on
that corn and make it blue back. I make
you dance all night and make it do that.
I make you want me to get on and make
you do that. That was my name, baby. I
got my name, daddy. I want my blue and
you sing, baby. I got my money in do
that. I got my one,
huh?
That's crazy.
The king
for real.
Yeah,
that's crazy.
Y'all see they be telling me that stuff
to be gassing me up. Push play.
Hey,
can you get rid of the bubble sound? I
like it.
Damn.
Can we get some more volume? I need to
finish it.
No
way. She was all
I would love to go. She was all my love.
She was all my love and all my love.
Oh, let me
Yeah. She got me standing on my head.
She got me standing on my head.
Yo yo yo. Chris, give me give me delay
on this track. Put the reverber
and the um reverb. Reverb.
Autotune.
Auto tune.
She was all my love. All my love it up.
She want all my love. All my love.
She got the boo. She got me. She got me
standing on my head. Turn it up. She got
me standing on my head. Standing up.
Standing up. She got me up. She twisted
up. She twisted up. She got me on the
picking up. She got me standing on my
head. Waking up. She got me dancing on
my head. Break it up. I need you
talking, baby. Won't you come and do
that? I want you dancing and make you do
that. I make you dance all night and
make you do that. I make you want me to
get on and make you do that. Do that.
That was my name, baby. I got my name,
baby. I want my
baby. I got my money in it. Baby, do
that. Do that. I got my money in it. Do
that.
Yeah.
And if
my hot
shing
find the one in the way in your face
talking
I don't want to talk to talking the long
way
you kiss she all day I don't want to
talk baby way I got
I could have gone somewhere though.
They jamming out there.
Yo, that's
that's wet.
What?
I'm sweating.
That's what happened when the speakers
in my ears hit me. Brings the energy.
Wakes you up. Play back.
She was all was all I would love to go.
She was all my love with all my
baby.
She all my love. All my love keep.
She got the boo. She got me up. She got
me standing on my heading up. Standing
up. She got me standing on my head.
Standing up. Standing up. She got my She
twist it up. She twist it up. She got me
dancing on the baking up. Break it up.
She got me standing on my head. Breaking
it up. Break it up. She got me dancing
on my head. Break it up. I need you
talking, baby. Won't you come and do
that? I want you dancing on that corn
and make you do that. I make you dance
all night and make you do that. I make
you want to get you do that. That was my
name, baby. I got my baby. I want my
baby.
Do that. Do that. I got my
do that. Yeah.
And if come on
my
shell
in your face talking
I don't want to talk the wrong way
you wish you all day I don't want to
talk about I got it.
See, stop. You see what the feeling made
me do, class? That's what it should do
to you.
I found the magic of Harry Potter.
I found magic when I w put the
headphones on.
I needed to I knew it needed something,
but
I needed to find a bounce. And I said,
"Let me just go in there and do it
myself." I look at Fetty. He kind of
gave me his eyes kind of say, "You
should do it without saying it." So,
so when a like, "Yeah, you go do it."
And I just went in there, put the
headphones on, closed my eyes,
and let the music take me where it's
want to take me. And that's where it
took me. And now I'm having a lot of fun
and you should too. When you making
music, find elements
to make, you know, jump out at you and
just attack it. Just do stuff. Like I
don't think is none of the stuff I do. I
I I like go crazy, but it gives me a
vibe to
keep going and adding on to the
production or muting stuff out. So now
we can get a feel because there's a
melody there and the melody strong and
everybody's feeling it and then we
elaborate on that. I might get Adrian in
here and we'll probably he might take
the same melody. I said just follow I
give if he like that we'll give him
that. I said I do this part with you and
I do that. We are structured a little
bit, but that's just me vibing to and
usually I like to sit with and keep
playing it and I like I know I mumble
lyrics, but it ain't they're not lyrics,
but I just mumble really the cadence of
what I think it should be.
When I have a melody that I think is
cool, I just keep sitting with it like,
you know, like what we all do. I'm not
the writer. I don't be writing stuff,
but I can and I do it. But I just like
listen to the melody and pass it on to
other people that are artists such as
Adrian and New City. I'm like, "Do you
like this melody?" Or take parts of it
and incorporate it what somebody else
would do. Or if somebody else hopped on
the track, I would probably keep my
melody and get and start getting with
top liners and start writing putting the
words to it to the melody that I have.
And this probably do I would probably do
it myself and be a feature and pick the
parts that I would want to do. Which
part I want to do? Make it a eight bar,
12 bar. Just keep vibing with it because
it feels good the way it is now.
Sometimes when something feels so good
and you try to put words to it, it just
don't feel right. You know, sometimes it
is what it is. And it's like it's a
vibe. And so I might I don't know. It's
like I just want to keep vibing with and
get other people opinion. And what is
it? A filter vocal. We we it's so much
you can do but all I know the energy is
there so we have to like contain this
energy and put it and make it something
special. It's already special but it
like really make make sense of what we
have. I could jab to this for probably
hours and just figure out and then I
keep adding but I like to go I like to
just rest for a little bit then play it
again because some of the words if I
keep hearing it words will start to come
at me. You know what I'm saying? I'm
like ooh. So I most of the time I would
probably play it for about a thousand
times like low or tell Chris
to give it to me in my um air drop it to
me and while they working I would listen
to my headphones and walk just sit back
on the couch and just you know I don't
want to interrupt the flow and just say
this should be this. And if I got
something I I stop I say stop stop
y'all. I think I got the title line. I
have what it should be. it should say
this or we are all vibing this
and figure out words but you know that's
a you know it's a process so it's it's
just long as the vibe is there and the
energy is right and so far the energy is
right and it's just about it's just
about
putting it all together it's the same
thing the same this is one of the same
ways how I started commiscuous girl and
I had the
uh I just had the melody And we just
kind of sat with until I was like, I I
don't want it to be. I want it to be
something that's not normal. This that's
normal, but it's simple,
but it's sophisticated.
And we just kept going through words.
It's like playing chess. It's like a
puzzle, you know, freaky. No, I don't
want to say freak. I don't want to say
that. I don't want to say this. So, this
is the same process.
Now, here's something that's going to
help you get through the days that
you're not feeling creative. Here's
where you know, if you play video games,
read a book, whatever you do outside of
music, just get into that, you know,
just live life. Don't let it beat you
up. Don't you have a off day every day
going to be on point and you just come
back at it. You might get it might still
not be there and you going to probably
get more frustrated. That's a good sign
you're getting frustrated because that
means your love is real. It's not false.
Just come back. It's like an argument.
Walk away.
Come back another day. It'll be there.
The love just don't die like that, you
know. Don't don't get too frustrated and
beat yourself up. Beat yourself up. get
happy because you love it that much that
you want to beat yourself up, you know?
So, it'll come. Sometimes it make four
days, three days. Hey, it's life. Long
as you living, you got all the time in
the world.
The way I'm The way I laid my push out
is
I just took a lot of I just made drum
rack one, two, three, four, five, ASR10
10. Just make up all put all my drums in
a rack. And then after I I make my drum
rack, I try to pick my favorite ones.
The same way I did on my ASR. I try to
move the same way that I move on my ASR.
I don't organize my drum racks to say,
"Oh, this sound, that sound," because it
kills my freedom. I don't have like a
like uh like, "Oh, all the kicks on one
roll, all I know, I just put them all
like I grab if it's 128 or whatever
these pads are, I just grab. Boom. Just
getting to the fill all the blocks up.
Then I move on and I name that batch.
Timbo one, Timbo drum rack two, tempo
drum rack three. And then as I'm
producing, I I find my favorites out of
that. And then on your template, you can
put your favorites and go to a
preference to say save your template.
And you just save your template and it
comes up with all your favorite drum
racks. I don't label or like I label
like like if you see up here Timbo drum
one Timbo team timbo two it's like it's
the same these all the same three up top
three that I just duplicate it then you
got Timbo one over here then Timbo big
drum kick it's like I that's on that's
the only names I do you know what I'm
saying I'm not going to say say uh big
kick one or uh supersonic kick two no I
just put them all on one and like how it
says 365 Five. I know that's a drum
rack. I know that's a drum rack. You
have to label to things that you know
that fits how you're going to remember
things. And this for me is how and when
I don't if I put drum rack with the big
bass, it'll make me always go to the
drum rack with the big bass. But if I
put like four, five, six, I don't
remember what five have in it. And I
just take the sounds from the ASR10 that
I always made all these hits and create
different, you know, ambience out of
them because the computer, the Ableton
allows you to to expand on what you
already created in life. So I don't
necessarily say, "Oh, this kick and go."
No, I just load them all up and play
them back. I load up drum
drum rack five and it's right here.
drum rack five
and there it is all the pads. So, and
this is how it's like I don't know
what's on the pads. So, as I load it up,
I would just
And it gives you my by me not knowing
what's up here, it makes me more
creative.
So, I just
I just start and there it is. But I
don't I didn't know that was on this
drum rack. I didn't know that. I'm like,
"Oh, this kick sound."
See,
there you have it. This is my
organization. This is to me organized.
But to somebody else, to you, you have
to create your own organization. This is
mine. This is I know I like the element
of surprise. I load my rack. I push
buttons not knowing what's going to
happen.
That's beautiful.
You know, it's so many ways that I
start. You know, one time it could be
the percussion, sometime could be just
the metronome, like you know, just the
metronome and I bounce around that. It
is sometimes that click, you know, it's
all about the day. That click can
inspire something
and I might just want to click in there
the whole time and just a baseline, the
kick that, you know, but that's just for
that moment, you know. So that's that
one particular thing. So for me it
varies. You know I start different ways
each time. Sometimes my crew will start
and I just add on to what they did. You
know sometimes I start off, you know,
with a percussion. Sometimes I start off
with the sample. Sometimes just be a
click and just do like what I showed
you.
I might do just a basic beat because
that's what I'm feeling and I know. Then
I bounce around say this.
If it's just that that simple but it
feels because the kick is right right
the son of the kick is right but then it
gives me room if it's just that one then
it gives you room say
like with the sequence I can add and
place and flip it and then drop out and
change it around and resample it and
check it out. You know I do it a lot of
ways. I create a basic groove and flip
it. And the thing about Ableton, I could
just go through and skim like
that's a and I could take it
and change it
and I can do that all day. So I just go
through that. I would take that and nine
out of 10 I would take that right there.
That sample I could just move number
four said wave. I'll move it over here
to a say drop file add device
and either I'll go right here and just
put make it a simpler it'll put
everything right here and the colors
will be white. I don't know what colors
they turn into.
So now it's golden.
So that's a loop that's on here.
I just changed it.
Or I can put it and make it
and and make something totally
different. Just manipulate it. It's up
to me. So I just take melodies and
and just take stuff and just make my
own.
So like that I can just take that and
put it at the end
or you know load up that one.
Say if I like to have the horns come in.
I can again make it a simpler.
I can go to the slice mode and just play
with it.
Let's go.
There you go.
So
all I need is a two bar loop.
So
see you see it. This is playing. I just
double the loop.
Can add on to it.
Then step sequence is already it's like
it's like like t it's already swinging
for me. So I can say
or right there or I can stop on the
note.
So
then play it back.
So I just play around make then
see
just playing around. Get it right.
Bam. There we go. Yeah.
Then you know this now I got a basic
groove. But I just go back to
I'mma put that horn thing I show you.
So we got that. Then I just, you know, I
got to go back and do it again because I
just
So that's like a cool groove, right? So
me, I'm like, "Okay, that's cool. That's
basic." Then I might say,
"Hold on. You hear a one is off."
So I can move it.
See, I just play with the patterns.
Now I would take that and say, "Oh,
that's just basic, right?"
Then I'll go over here and trigger
another track
and record and resample the whole thing.
Sometimes I do it this way. I'm like,
"Oh, it's cool.
So that's a four bar loop. Then I'll go
over convert it into a simpler, you
know, just play with it. See what it
sound like.
See, sounds better.
Hold it.
See, that's it allows you to do that. Or
I could just be like or I could be
and see it because I sampled it as a
whole. It'll say, "Oh, if I It allows me
to hear the kick in different octaves
and tones and hear the horn in a
different key and allows me to
manipulate it and be like, "Oh, this is
not as simple as you." It could be it
could be dope. It could be.
It could be anything.
Look at that.
See, and it don't sound like
I was doing that, but it actually sounds
dope. So, I had to come back to it. I
save that little make it a sample and be
like oh and I could I did the beat as
simple and I could I know I can go back
and remember and do the same thing I
know and I might change up the drum
because I I don't know if it was five or
six by the time I come back too it could
be I could change it up and create and
take that and just use it as a template
and create around it. I think I would
want somebody to put something over it
before I go before I go any further cuz
I could go further. I would probably
pass it on to Fetty and Angel or Rants
the team and say what y'all think about
this and let them and then I'm like oh
then I could change this would be the
idea that spark off something else and
it won't be this no more but it will
start from
What I like to do
when I come in a session, I like to just
play what I've been working on and just
get the sonics right and then I then
we're going to start from scratch and
just make something. See what we come up
with. Just have fun. Let the music guide
us in this sweet old session of today. I
want to see how this Sonic sounds. Let's
play this. Let's see how this Sonic
sounds.
How do you keep the right people around
you in your community? It has to be a
community of music. There's no right or
wrong to communicating and sharing. It's
just do they have the same love as you?
And if they don't have the same love as
you, why is you communicating with them?
You know, and if they get you can sit on
the phone or on the text, talk about
stuff for hours and you like, "Yo, we
were talking about music for like an
hour or this drum pattern or teaching
the notes and you're like, dang, it's
our life." And when you got that type of
person, the community builds
watch.
See
what the tempo on this one? 81.
What is it?
81.
Woo.
Watch the trick.
See?
We getting warmed up.
See, that sound make me feel like I'm on
the beach. It's too, you know.
Yeah.
What temple is that? 81.
81.
I never was that great in school. I'm
going sit here admit like reading like
my thing was like even talking to you.
It's hard for me to talk about music as
something that cuz I just I can express
it more than talking about it. Like if I
baseline, okay, what? And somebody might
be smart. A quarter note. No,
that's how I talk. I can't do the high
intellect.
Quarter note, minor to this to. No, it
should move like this. What? And then,
you know, it's people who know all the
intelligence of music talk. But when I
come in like, no, you don't hear off.
Move it back a grid. Move it this way.
Huh? It going to be off the grid. It's
going to move a certain way. Trust me.
So they'll move it, but their musical
theory and and you know how they see it
on the screen or the computer don't
match up to how I see it in my brain.
And then when I get to show them, how
you know cuz I just mimic. I need you to
mimic what I just did. It might don't
look right on the screen,
but it's going to feel right.
I get it. So I talk with my mouth with
sounds from my mouth. Like if I say I
want to sn I want it sound like that.
Oh, okay. It's like a clap. So I can't
I'm not a very descriptive person. I got
to
do what you call it. What's that? Uh
charades or what? I got to do it that
way.
Okay. So Fetty,
what is that sound that you just played
over top of that? is actually,
let me play you the sound without
effects.
See that?
So, it's actually kind of a bell.
Thank you.
And then you add some effects to it. Um,
this one is sort of a distortion.
It actually emulates a very thing called
the speak and tell. It was like a
computer that used to like speak. You
can write on it. And in the 80s people
used it and someone made a plugin that
emulates that
so messes with the sound. And then I
added this thing as a side chain.
So it's making the sound go up and down.
Then we have a delay.
Gives a little tail, little EQ.
See?
So that's why he sound like that. But
it's a simple song.
Very simple but complex. It did. We hit
it.
about you.
So,
I'mma do one more, play one more, get
everything warmed up, and then we'll do
something from scratch. See what we come
up with. See how Fetty just add it on.
Angel's more complex. He like to
sequence it all and then play it back.
So, he his memory bank, he takes what
the melody is and he already hears it.
So, as I move on to something else, he
already has what was there and he's
creating the whole thing around from the
idea that I just played and he'll play
it back and say, "Can you pull up that
other beat? I got something for it."
That's how it usually works,
you know? It's getting the vibe right.
Then we'll start then he whatever he
create in his his thing, I could create
something totally different. That's how
we usually do it, right? So, I'm just
let him create
and he might play a sound after I blow
up this other one while me and Fetty
just jamming out.
See what he come up with. And I make a
start from scratch. Maybe let Angel
start the It's like a band leader. Let
him take the role instead of me taking
the role. And we see what we come up
from there.
I'm just having fun. I'm in the music.
I'm I'm just enjoying the time and just
letting the music take me over and just
being loud with it. Just coming up with
creative stuff. Me and Fetty Angel just
bouncing ideas, showing what I, you
know, what I would do. Just having fun,
you know, stuff like,
you know, like right. You see what I'm
saying?
See, I like take a trash can. You hear
that? Those are like bells from a
garbage disposal,
trash cans, and rakes. Look at the
beautiful sound that it made. And then
you get a cra a rapper say
he he
let me tell you where I got these sounds
from. a rake from my backyard from a
lake. I just wish all across the world
the states and then I add this
[ __ ] 808. Here we go. Always
think of the next rhythm. If you hear
something could be a tight, right? You
know what I'm saying? You're like, man,
and then you're it's like if I'm out
with you and I hear you like you
clacking on your drinking a coffee,
whatever you're doing, and if you
clicking the cup and you
then you're thinking like how I would
think cuz that's what I would do. It's
like the the least suspected like some
you have to get on somebody's nerve and
be like, why you always mingling in your
mouth making sound? Then you thinking
like me. That's how you think. Like me,
you have to be open
to just always dedicating yourself to
new ideas, evolving. I can wake up if
the wave, if I'm by the house and I'm on
the water, I hear the waves, it can move
a certain way. And I'm like,
to me, in my head, I was like,
Oo.
So, I might record it on my phone. I'm
like, "Do y'all hear that? Is it a
rhythm?" So, I put a snap to it. I don't
I don't hear that. I don't Okay, let me
put the snap to it.
How did you hear that? I said, "I don't
know. It just it was moving to a
currency that made me find a different
hop or a different bounce or something.
You have to be open to just like
meditation, just clearing your mind and
just be engulfed in music and sound. And
music is not like listen to a song a
day. I'm talking about just
listen to your surroundings. Listen to
what's around you. If you notice, okay,
it's high hats and just percussions.
And you got to let the high hats and
percussion and the junkyard boogie just
take you over. And you see how
this part the the bells are very
complex.
The bass is the simpleness. So this part
is
is
it's all that going on. So it's all that
is a rhythm. So with that being so I
just vibe to that for a minute. And I'm
like, "Okay, now it's so so many ways
you can go on it." So I I do a high hat
to
to give me where I want to go. And then
I say, "Okay, what's the simplicity in
it?" So I say, "Oh, here's the bass."
Hey,
but the bells are doing something
totally different. I'm just bouncing.
Boom. Boom.
See, I just like to play with the the
space. See, I'm going to do it with my
hands.
You know that just that simple, you
know, just having fun with it. trying to
take something simplistic,
some something complex and making it
simplistic. That's like the whole key to
it. And the junk y'all with the bells
and the rakes and all that stuff going
on with the effects on it
gives it uh uh like it's another rhythm
inside of rhythm.
An example of what I thought was great
sonic innovation was Dirt Off Your
Shoulder. Are you that somebody?
My Love sonically those records
on My Love. Just that rhythm haven't
been heard. Try again. The bass
just moving all over the place. But the
rhythm and if I just gave you the
baseline, it wouldn't have been a hit.
That's why I'm trying to tell you about
unorthodox rhythm. One rhythm is doing
this. Then I brought it down to the
beat.
So when it got to that you
So it's like complex meet simplicity,
you know? So
that record I knew it was special
because it was complex and simplicity
allinone. Get your free comb. Complex
and simplicity allin oneing
first. Your first reaction. I just play
you the good time. First your first
reaction.
That's your first probably most normal
people maybe reaction to claping the
clap.
But
you know I play with the rhythm to make
you bob a different then put in the
little toddlers. what I learned from
this culture, just going across the
world and adding all those elements,
it's like making a great gumbo, you
know, and I knew it was a special
product. Um, dirt off your shoulders.
It was a tape machine
um string that sound mono and I knew it
was I'm like, I ain't heard this before.
This I was like, it sounds fresh and I
just put the beat to it. make sure the
beat knock
and I knew it just was a special Sonic.
I knew that I didn't know if there was
hits. I just knew the Sonics was
special.
And that's why I try to look for a
special Sonic. So when you playing your
record, not saying somebody else records
is is other people records are great,
but when you get to it's like if
everybody stands up in line and play
their track,
when somebody play Whoa. Whoa. So you
know, it's like
your turn.
Your Sonics better be right because you
want to make them be like, "What the
freak is
You play Play me something. I know where
I'm going. Huh? You play me something.
Oh man, I go through this every freaking
time.
Yeah. Remember what?
now tuned into the [ __ ]
greatest.
Jay-Z was doing Fade to Black with Dirt
Off Your Shoulders. As you if you saw
Fade to Black, the story line is there.
I had a bunch of beats made
and I played the beats, but when it got
to Dirt Off Your Shoulders, even the
beat I played before, I knew was dope,
but I felt that Dirt Off Your Shoulders
was was
the first one was special, but Daryl
shows something about it. It just I
don't know what it was, but it's just it
was a feeling. And I knew when I did it,
it had a certain feeling. And when I
played it, that's why I reacted that way
because the feeling was so contagious
that it passed over to him, you know.
So, let's play it.
Now, tuned into the [ __ ]
greatest.
You hear that? It was the sonics of the
drums.
See, watch this.
You can go and brush your [ __ ]
You know why it was the Stop. his ad
lives at that moment with the feeling.
All you feeling is the excitement. You
now tun. That's what this track made him
do. Like Jay-Z is one of the best poets
that I know. I call him a poet. He's not
a rapper. He's a poet. He doesn't write
anything down. The beat made him feel
that way. Dare off your shoulders.
Don't ask me how you came up with that
title. That's Jay-Z. But I know the beat
made him say, "Yo, now dude." You know
what I'm saying? All the ad libs, that
was all the feeling. So, let's play the
beat. Play it again.
That's all that is is two three sounds.
That's it. Uh, it was a tape screen and
I I I had got a a tape screen sound from
Japan.
I forgot where I got it from. Some part
of Japan.
And I just
I was actually I was just playing around
just hitting like
and recorded it and I like I push play
this sound good. So I had these these
drums that I always loved that it was
heavy but I never had the right sound to
put on top of it. And when I came up
with that tape screen was so mono it was
so dirty and dull and I just ran with
that. And after that he put his rap over
that that that song don't have that many
instruments in it. That song has
this three instruments. There's nothing.
It's all about that tape that tape
screen that just like in Pony was about
the that one sound, you know, back then.
And the drums, my drums are always heavy
from the ASR. So that one sound just
went perfect with that, you know. Let's
listen to it.
Oh, you listen to high dirty
handing
[ __ ] Said the ladies love me from the
bleachers. They screaming all the
ballers.
I got that part. And I went back and
overlay with with
that sound. It was on I just took a
sound like just sped it up like said
they just it was a sample. They said I
slowed it down.
I put a bell to give it some like
give it a little crispiness, but it's
cuz everything is dull. The only thing
crispy is that bell and his vocals.
That's it. and the Sonics. And then
one shaker.
That's it. Now watch your homie holding
position in the kitchen with soda. I
just whipped it out trying to get me a
rover trying to stretch out the [ __ ]
That was the engineer at the time. Um
when he was doing the demo was doing he
was spearman to beat the groove. So it's
like when he played around with his
raps, he put the effects in there and at
the end he tried to chop up and do
different things with the groove. That
wasn't like something I did. It was like
the groove was so infectuous. So it gave
it made people want to experiment with
it. And then when Jay heard it,
I like that. No, keep that. I like, you
know, it was just that the groove was
that infectuous cuz once he put the I
remember when he like he said it was we
came in the next day and when we filmed
he's like oh and I came in and he was
already started. He's like said, "Hold."
He came out. Here it is. He pushed play.
The rest is history. He knew it when he
did it. I came in like right when he
started the first he always he hit me
like
out of here. Then he plays you down to I
was like, "Oh my." If you he watch fade
to black. Can you see
the opposite?
You saw my face reaction. I'm like, mm-
this ain't normal. And that's what it
was. Jay-Z wasn't He's not normal.
Well, he right over top. He just That's
not that song. What he wrote. If you
feeling like he he made you he it's the
song like the screens the tape screens
is the the orchestra and he gave you the
he was the conductor. He gave you that.
So that song is simplistic but it's that
tape string that gave it
the whole character.
My hustler homie, you a customer
on my shoulder cuz you brushing up on
me.
Every rapper that's out,
every rapper that's out that supposed to
be so-called hot will be terminated. I'm
tell this come out. Oh god.
What do y'all got? What we What we doing
today?
I got this crazy sound. The crazy chord
progression.
Hey, hey, hey.
Okay, you got that.
I put that on loop.
So, this sound I have a bunch of um
I'm going to turn everything off, all
the effects I have on it,
and then explain
what is going on. So, the chord sound
will sound like this.
So, that's the raw sound. And then I
threw a chorus plugin on it.
So, that's with the chorus plugin. And
then I threw on Echo Boy on it to put it
in a room. I kind of like the There's
this effect I really like. It's like a
restroom effect as if it was being
played in a restroom.
So, I put that on there.
And then I put another chorus on there.
I like double the effects on it. I don't
know why. It just feels right.
And I put it in another bathroom
with a different setting. It's a little
bit more wet
on the mix. And then I threw some
Valhalla. Put it in a big room.
And then topped it off with kickstart
just for a side chain. Not too drastic,
just at like 62% just to kind of give it
a little pump,
a little groove. That's it for that
sound. Basically what we like to do is
just find what feels right. It's like,
you know, knowing
something just different from others
that's out there. We just try to find We
like to experiment with different
feelings and different ambient sounds
and just play around with it till the
groove is right. So we'll go through a
lot of different processes of the sound.
And if you play something like
I like how we kind of manipulate a road
and make it sound like
maybe a string sound, you know? See,
it's like the you use space and make
you recreate this world of like echo so
it just don't stay in one place like
it's like
so it feels like wind to me.
We just go by the feeling. I don't know
where to take it. I just let it take me
where it's going to take me, you know? I
just sit and vibe to it for a minute and
we just keep jamming out till we got the
right parts.
It's cool.
Hey,
hey,
hey.
Hey,
hey, hey.
What temp are we at? T
Think
Oo.
Now see,
can you keep it up? Like I got a feeling
on the top. So
I got a mic on.
So that's like the I started off with
like this. I got to feel the vibe of the
groove. Make sure I feel it. When I laid
out percussion, I try to find a groove
and find space in the chords to make it
groove a bounce that I want to bounce
to.
Not that I want to bounce it, but I
think this not the typical. I try to do
something that's not typical. Like you
can hear it one way, you can hear it
forward to the floor. I rather do it
like
I like to think about songs that I might
have done like um
I heard it like um first I heard it like
a dance kind of to the floor, but then I
was like, wait a minute. I try to find
that groove with that pocket. Here we
are.
Yeah.
M.
getting the bass right, making you the
balance of the beat, the rhythm of the
beat has to be infectuous first. Like
the
if that's right, I'm like, "No, I could
bounce a different way." And once I get
the bounce
and it's not and once you have the
bounce, you don't really need a lot. I
think producers we we we we
have a tendency to keep adding. For me,
I keep adding and that cuz I'm always
hearing more. But sometime it's just
that plain pound cake that's just
beating you across the head. And I
realize and I go back to a lot of my
songs. I'm like, it don't really got a
lot. It's just where I space it at.
Might have four sounds, that's it. But
it's the spacing where the sounds are
and how it
overlaps the other to make a a rhythm.
Like this baseline
but the kick might
but the baseline
but the kick but it's moving the bass to
make but he's not playing like you like
well he's not playing that rhythm of
that kick but the sonics
will make the bass move that way. So
that's but it's only a bass and a kick
and you'll be like why I feel like it's
much more because I didn't follow his
pattern. I went off my feeling to give
it uh a different texture.
Cut it.
Cut.
Cut short.
You got to cut the bass short right
here.
Like
not
like
not that.
Not that.
That's it. Not that.
Yeah.
See, I wanted the space. And then for
the chorus, we might could put the
baseline like But no, it should be like
a um
that bass like like a breakdown when you
put in F,
you know, I'mma fix something else.
Yeah. There we are.
Cut up a little bit, Chris.
Then we going to bring it down. Break it
down. Now, no. Take that. We're going to
do that part right now. Then when I say
stop, we going to take that long bass
out. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Now
back to
that's how I know
bass.
That's where that's going to come in at.
Not my fault.
Here we go. Damn. Here we go. Here we
go. I'm a little slow. I'mma catch it.
I'mma catch it. I'mma catch it. Here we
go. One 2 3 go.
Right. One. One. Baseline. baseline
with the baseline.
Yeah, that's how we going to do it
now.
Everybody listen to music on headphones,
earpods, earbuds.
Nine out of 10, nobody listens to music
these days in big speakers. So
the drums have to sound big in my
earpods and in my headphones. I want
them to sound big. So I just kind of
take my time and how I sample them in. I
really like deal with the compressors
and the EQs and make sure it's right and
then I make a whole drum kit. But I just
take a kick and just kind of like make
sure it sounds great in my headphones.
And then I put it on a drum rack.
And there it is. That's why it sounds so
fat. I don't have to layer anything.
Only thing I layer is maybe a rhythm off
a kick, like a like a boom boom. So it's
like two different tones of a kick, but
I don't really I don't have to layer the
kick because I make sure the kick is
hitting at the capacity that I want it
to hit. So I don't have to layer it. If
I had a kick drum that's not hitting
like that, I you know, it's hitting, but
I'm like, um, it can hit harder. So, I
just, you know, just add
a EQ.
So, I'll go find it. Now,
let's switch drum. Let's take that drum.
So, I take that's this drum.
It's It's cool, but we want to lift it
up a little bit. So, you put I put a EQ
on it right quick. So,
just fatten it up a little bit.
See, I just But it didn't sound like
that. This how it sound regular.
Beef it up
with snares really like I think snares
going you don't really you don't want
them to to be just as hard as the kick.
So you just you don't that's cool
enough.
a snare's,
you know, it's all about the texture of
the snare, you know,
it's all about texture or what snare you
want. It's not about raising it up all
for a snare. For me, I just raise the
volume because the texture is there. I
don't want it to be
nothing else. It's a matter of getting
the kick drum to match the snare for me.
And it should be for you.
Tim is a unique case. U he uh he's got a
thing in his software and you know he's
processing his drums pretty well before
they even come to me. So when I get a
track from Tim, I'm just trying to kind
of keep it what he did and then make it
a little bit better. So like right here,
he gave me that drum loop and the snare
was kind of part of it. So I went in and
looked at the track as he put it in here
and was able to pull that snare onto a
different track so I could kind of level
the snare a little bit and give it a
little more knock and punch. Um, apart
from where it originally came in, I
mean, most people kind of track their
drums out and like, you know, this drum
and this drum and this drum, but the way
Tim works in his computer, he really
likes to make his drums hit a certain
way before they come out. And
he's a unique case. Like I said, like
everyone's got to find their workflow
and what makes things work for them. But
this is kind of the workflow that works
for us.
This kick has, you know, very little on
it. Um, a little a lot of the sub low
stuff builds up and if you get a bunch
of drums coming in with a bunch of sub
material, they're all going to stack up
and get things. So if you if you roll
off a little bit like way down low
a little bit of all of them that come
in, you're able to make the drum hit a
little harder without
over bassing it. Cuz if you put too much
bass, then you lose some of the the
knock. Like here's the beat kind of as
Tim did it and
I have, you know, it's really all
balance. Like I start with the balance.
That's super important to not get crazy
plugin happy before you've struck a good
balance. And then you can start applying
things slowly to not lose what you
started with.
Like this is just some simple EQ stuff
right here. And I mean it's making a big
enough difference um to the kicks.
It's really kind of taking some away so
I can turn them up louder overall. Like
a lot of low end just comes from where
you set the fader and not a lot of EQing
and stuff like that. on the snare. Like
I did a little thing with a transient
shaper to maybe make the transient of
that snare hit a little harder. Um
I use a neutron for that. And
I'm able to make the snare pop out in
the middle and not have so much top hit.
So it makes the snare sound a little bit
beefier.
Um,
that would be with
and if I took it all off, that would be
that
a little thinner, a little less.
I'm kind of introducing some warmth a
little bit.
See, even the bells hear the hear the
percussion. It it has a it has a
it's hard to explain. It's a feeling
like one is complex, one just moves side
to side. That just
and I just fill in the blanks, you know,
ghost notes,
ghost notes, poly rhythms, ghost notes,
poly rhythm, ghost notes.
It's just it's not even notes. It's it's
it's
a percussion thing. It's like all of
Tim's tracks have they tend to have
these like he layer a kick under it that
gives it makes you bounce in a way that
you're like whoa. Like that beat right
there doesn't even start on the one.
It's coming in after.
It's it it's a different
He finds these little pockets in the
rhythm that give the whole track a
certain feel. And when we add our
sounds, we're playing on a very straight
grid for say or straight rhythm, but his
rhythm makes our sounds it comp it it
even complements what we're doing as
well. Um, it's pretty cool.
There's like five different grooves at
the same time. They all interlock and
make the collage of rhythm. I just if it
feels good, if it brings something out
of me,
that's what comes out.
Everybody has a different swing. That's
what makes producers unique. Kanye will
swing a certain way. He has his swing
that when he raps on his beats, they so
unique. It fits him. You know, everybody
bounce is different. You know, I just
like rhythms. I try to find all
different rhythms. Some rhythms are not
from the US. A lot of rhythms I study
rhythms from Africa. I studied rhythms
from Egypt, Israel. I went all I went to
all these countries to to dibble dab in
their music culture. That's why I love
Arabic and Lebanese and all that type of
music because they don't play on
American scale. They play on a different
scale. Music is is so different across
the world. So I just search across the
world and I've seen stuff
and I just try to, you know, do what
take all what I've seen and create and
try to mimic in my way and find my
balance to it. Like
if I was a love song like uh let's take
a uh George Michaels a song.
I might
that's my bounce. Somebody might hear
it.
That's their bounce. So your bounce is
whatever fits
That was They don't I don't think they
have them anymore, but that was like a
rack mount. And I remember it was a I
forgot the name. It was a O fat or Oh,
yeah. Something fat something something
fat, right? You scroll through them and
it was a sound like W and I just
truncated and I just said
that B was so interesting when I was
turning trying to find a bass and I hit
that frog kind of sound. I was like,
"Oh, that's dope."
It was just a sound and it sounds so
cool. And now and when we did that, you
know, Static, I remember Static coming
in the room. He was like,
"What's that, Tim?" Cuz he had a country
like he was from Louisville. He's like,
"What's that, Tim? That's fly." Like
then, you know, static. He me and him
when I did a groove, he bounced the same
way I bounced. Meaning, when I say he
bounced the same way I bounce,
um the way I bob my he
rhythm he was going to catch, you know?
We had to have the same kind of be on
the same page. And he wrote that for
Juwine. Genuine came down to the studio
like, "Oh man, Juan got his deal at Sony
10, eight, nine years later." That was
the first song we put out, but that
song's like 9 years old before it before
it hit them. That's what I try. I try I
tried to do timeless things that just
don't sound like what's going on today
at that time. and play it.
Still sound new.
Put the car sound.
Then I had this vocal right here of a
girl. Listen, ah, and I just went down
hit it.
If you hear the piano overlapping,
it's about finding the space. Hear the
You look at Cubert. Cubert. That was a
Cubert. The Cubert when you know the
video game Cubert when it jumped. I took
that sound and put the car crashing. So,
it's like
then I had um I believe at the time this
guy named Craig play some chords over
top of what I had just the base of the
baseline and he add
and I add that
just a little simple sound and he just
put that little part and that was it. We
put the to get to make the chord stand
up. But it if it had none of those
sounds, the song was so powerful, just
that eight up, just that bomb.
That's just extra ear candy. But just
that bomb in the beat,
we already there. We The song is That's
the song. It's right there. And the
pony, ride my pony. Just that line.
Stop. Stop it, Chris. just about the
word the static instead of saying a
vulgar thing he made it made you think
if you're horny let's do it let's ride
it my pony he took he just made we try
to find cleverness and things you know
and try to make it like you know how
would you say it would it be fly would
it be this and static was always that
fly guy at that time and he said a lot
of fly things and we just did a lot and
But when I had the baseline, he already
had the melody cuz he just I'm he
already had it, you know. And when he he
wrote the whole song, I just started
adding ear cannon around it. But the
whole basis of that song was about that
bulb. That was really about it. And once
I once I found that sound, it kind of
like
made me do the beat that way. Like I
found that sound before I did the beat.
So I was like I just did a simple beat
and I put that baseline on top. Then I
add all the extra the cubic the car
crash and the find. I went in the booth
and did a
put my more mouth sounds but not not all
of that. Just
you know before filtering and all that.
I did it with my mouth. I just added all
the rest of the elements. But I made
sure the kick and the snare just like I
did when I showed you how the kick and
snare blended. I just took the same I
found two kick and snares that blend and
did the rest with my mouth. And here we
are.
See how beautiful
that sounds.
So that loops
uh that's actually I had this very
cheesy ac capella.
It's like from a sample CD. It's really
bad. Um and I chopped it in the
keyboard. So I chopped it. There's a
function in Logic which is what I use
that can chop every transient. So then I
have
every note that this guy sang.
Oh. Oh, I could do that on able to
slice. Exactly. Okay. I thought it was
like amazing.
But that is amazing. You took a What
made you take that particular man?
I wanted to have a rhythmic vocal thing.
But what play the play the original?
you knew just
like I wouldn't have See, that's what
makes everybody special. I would have
never thought to take that
and put on top of that. Like that just
would have thrown me off. I would have
went I like what is this man saying, but
you saw the vision in him singing that.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, it's like the raw material and
then you just
So that's how he sounds. And then I just
added a bunch of effects. reverb.
It's like a room delay,
uh, compression,
side chain,
and then EQ.
And
that's it. That's how you make it.
So beautiful.
Crazy.
Then there's one more sound.
It's just like a embellishment for the
down beat of the song.
Yeah.
It's a woo, right?
Yeah. And that just comes on the one
every eight bars. Um
with a delay on it.
Yeah.
Like a woo. That's perfect. And then
there's another sound that comes
here
to to to enhance the the the
exact
perfect.
I'll tell you where it goes in a minute.
Just give it a little
It just blends with the the
Exactly.
Yeah. Perfect.
And then we have the bass. Um,
two different bases for section one.
One is this.
Oo, that's a flanger on it.
That's actually a filter on it. So
good. Like a phaser. It's almost like a
phaser a little bit.
It's almost like Yeah, this is the
original sound.
It's like a electric bass sample. Um,
and this sound is what is called a
foreman filter. It makes like a vocal
sound almost.
It's called wow.
I know that.
Then after that is side chain to make it
funky compression on top of that. And
then I thought it was good to make it
wider. So I widen it up a little bit
with guitar rig.
And then underneath that there's another
layer
with a deeper bass. So when you put them
together, it sounds a little more full.
Uh here goes.
You did that less than two minutes, huh?
I don't know. See, when the feeling
takes over, it takes over. You just
don't think about it. You just go.
Sounds all my sounds.
So, all this is is an Omnosphere patch
that one of my friends made. Um, and all
I did was put the the same side chain
that Fed was talking about, the uh
kickstart.
Um, and then I have this vocal
chop that.
So, that's the original. The original is
like this.
So
that's the the whole pluck, the whole
loop. And then I added this loafy. I
call it uh the 40 sauce.
Um which des it.
So it it brings it
up to 40.
So it it's kind of like EQing, but it's
desampling
um the sample and it gives it a nice
little gritty character. Then I tossed
it through movement
um which is a great plugin that uh is
made by output. Toss it through that and
then it sounds like this.
Then I side chain that to kind of tame
the
the effect the movement effect
and then I eqed it
and it sounds like this.
Oh,
so I didn't take the whole loop. I just
took the front end and I placed it. I
didn't even place it on the one. I
placed it on the back beat. Um, and then
to complete the vocal chops that I did,
we have this other one
that follows that one
and it goes
so together with the other one. It goes
like this.
Yes.
And that same vocal chop, that vocal
chop I use, I tossed it through the same
sauce. I call them sauces. I have like
this folder of like sauces that I use.
It's just presets. It's just grouped
plugins that I go to and line up and
then I turn one on, turn off, you know,
turn it on, turn off, and take off a
certain effect or tweak it um until it
feels right, which is the I think one of
the biggest things I've learned from
working with Tim is just tweak the sound
until it feels right. Doesn't have to be
cool, none of that. It just has to give
you a certain feeling. And this kind of
gives me a certain
kind of gives it this this feel when you
hear those vocal chops
and the room they're in and the effect.
It kind of gives you a certain vibe.
It's very spacey, very airy and it sets
a nice tone.
So what happens is we give Chris our
parts
and we kind of start piecing everything
together and it leads to opening up the
space of like Tim will be like I hear a
a drop somewhere or you know it opens up
spaces for us to add more but we have to
see what we're working with and then
Chris will do his thing with the sounds.
He'll start tweaking them or start
adding effects he may hear and he'll
probably walk you through that shortly.
My whole purpose here is to kind of
consolidate three different computer
rigs making sound. Um, I guess if you're
making a beat alone, you could just kind
of, you know, keep it where it is and
just keep going. But when you've got
three systems going, you got to have
somebody like taking each little bit and
um putting it all together so it all
lives in in one place. when he's putting
it all together and we play it like he's
going to put it all together, play it
loud. I sit or I usually lay back on the
couch and I'm like, "Okay, close my eyes
and let the music take me. Where else
should it go?" Or I can sit right here
and just look at the speakers and the
speakers is I'm weird. So the speakers
will probably say, "You should drop
this." It's like the speakers will talk
to me. It's weird. So, and I just keep
gazing. Somebody might say, "Why is he
just keep staring at the or why is he
closing his eyes? Is he on I gotta swim
in the music? I gotta
let it bathe me so I can know where to
to to enhance what we already have. Now,
we're going to all sit down and listen
to what we have and add on and
collaborate to what's already there and
just just enhance it or just keep
jamming to it because it's a lot there.
We just have to hear it all back.
Everybody want to know what makes a hit
song. There's no formula really to a hit
song because
I believe a hit song is really about the
energy that you put out. You know, if
you really feel strongly about the
record and you know it means something
to you, it really manifests itself to
the world. But a hit song to say, "Oh,
that's a hit. Oh, that's a I mean, we I
know I always I do it myself." But now I
just be like,
if it feels good, it might don't feel
good to others, so it might don't be a
hit, but it's a hit to me. And as long
as a hit to you, then it's a hit. you.
But you can't go in the process saying,
"Oh, this a hit." Because it could be
the the one that you don't like is the
hit. So then what happens? You confuse.
You really don't know. So it's all about
your energy, what you put into the
record. And that's, you know, you just
your your your feeling of what you feel
is contagious and it passes throughout
the room. And you kind of like gauging
off of your, you know, your peers, your
friends and stuff. And if you got like
25 or more people just like, "Yo, I love
this record." You know, then you give it
to radio or whoever, there's a hundred
more
and you hoping that it manifests itself
to the world. But for the most part, you
had fun doing it and it moves you.
That's a hit.
Ah,
hey.
Wait.
All right, drop me on.
Now cut it down some.
that.
All right.
Here
we go.
Right.
Here's your butt.
A breakdown, right? But you should make
up.
I have something that I do.
You got something?
Okay. Might be cool.
Yeah.
Talk to me, speakers.
Yes.
Yes,
for that breakdown. Um, well, this base.
What bass is that?
That's a bass that I made on uh silent.
That's it. That's all you need to tell
me that you made. I know I can't find
it.
It's really easy. Very, very easy. Like
basically in silent if you start with a
initialize preset you get this is a saw
wave
and then you have an option to add more
uh waveforms to it is called unison. So
I added a voices and the tuned them
really easy. And it sounds like that
almost like Lady Gaga, but now we put a
filter to it.
And that's the bass.
This sound
it's like this.
I'll keep going. I heard a melody.
So that sound, how you make that sound
is there's a thing that's called a ebo
evo. It's like someone that you put on
your guitar and it makes the notes notes
extra long. So I what I did is I sample
one note for a very long time. So if I
play one key, you actually can hear
that note.
So with one note, you can actually
spread it in the keyboard. And that
means that every note you play is going
to have a different timing because when
you start stretching things pitch-wise,
then your timing change. So the lower
notes are longer now.
So if you play chords,
it gives you a cool texture
and
then you add some effects, some delays
and you get that um little rhythm thing.
That's a call. That's That's a kill Bill
sound.
Yeah,
that's the original sound.
It's just like a mima.
Put an arpeggiator on it.
Start adding some effects.
You know what that sound like? That
effect sound like you heard moments of
love.
Yeah.
Play it again.
You don't be dope.
Yeah.
You find that little other sound that go
top of that.
Yeah. Like a vocal.
So that's that.
This sound
is another one
with loop looper.
Ooh.
So it was really this um
the original sound.
I play that sequence but then added a
bunch of effects on it. Again, similar
to the other ones, some reverbs,
compression.
This one called looperator is cool.
Little overused now. Try not to use it
that much. But
yeah,
uh has it glitches the sound so it
creates loops and it filters it and it
sequence all these effects. And the same
vocal we had before.
So all combined.
I think contrast is very important when
you're making music cuz
you need to in order to feel all the
greatness of the groove, you need to
come from a place at some point that you
don't have groove. So when it comes
back, it hits you even harder. If you
just have groove over and over,
sometimes it might not hit as hard. So I
think that's why
Fetty I would I think it's just layers.
You take what you have which is
how do you make this better? What can
you do? And sometimes it's not adding
on. It's just breaking down and adding
other layers or other
parts to what we already have. So, we're
just trying to expand what we already
have, right? Expand on what we have.
Yeah. And sometimes you want to make
sure that you still keep a little bit of
the other uh vibe that you're coming
from. So, if he was just pads,
then it's like too much of a breakdown.
But I think adding all these little
sequence sounds,
it just keeps you like moving even
though you don't have drums.
Exactly.
The way I listen to music is I'm
listening for all the acrobats in it.
All the unique stuff, but the uniqueness
could be just in two sounds. Look how I
made you just repeat my repeat my song
and I'm like just saying
boo boo gaga like them Gundam style.
That's two words but but you singing it
like you know what I'm saying? But he
like I got you. But it's the sonics of
everything together in this tone.
You can try and you will make fun of
him, but you can never do it like him
and you'll be like, "That's why I like
it." Cuz he has It's not a lot. It's
just what is coming out. His voice for
that one second makes you cheer up and
make you make a joke. You know what I'm
saying? But you can't do it. And that's
the beauty of it. And I tell, you know,
sometimes stuff comes in small packages.
You don't need a lot. You know, it's all
about the feeling, the voice, the
sonics. Sonics is amazing.
What Fetty played on his drop kind of
inspired me to kind of try to find other
textures and possible sounds I could go
I call that the assassin creed. Like you
know the speakers are telling me like
there's
somebody need help
like at the hospital you're running.
That's a breakdown.
Yeah. Go ahead. I would probably put
that like at the end
or like a part where it just smooths
out.
Yeah. So, it's just bunch of textures
though.
Uh, so beautiful.
Oh, who that talking? That talking is
cold.
Crazy sample I found.
Yeah.
Come on now.
Yeah.
No, I ain't got to follow. No, this how
you got angel. Boom.
You know when that when that part come
on. Yeah.
When that part come up,
the whatever the whatever the piano
thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
Keep it straight. Hold it.
Yeah.
Now we do the
I
almost feel like even might be cool to
have just the 808 on
by the bass instead of the patch.
Or should it be high?
Yeah, I think I think we should probably
do that, right?
I can almost sequence it here real fast.
All right. Now you got got to line it
up. It'd be dope, Chris, if you said
like
do the on the snap. Make it roll.
I guess it's testing us. See if we real
producers.
Pause.
Yeah.
By the way, Chris is like a machine
himself.
Nobody can do what he does.
See on the spot now.
Oo, that sound good.
You know I'm good for it. You know I'm
good for it.
Ain't nobody else
play that but lean it back. You know you
could hold on. I can't even freaking you
know.
Come on.
And I got your back.
And I got your back over your life.
And I got your back over your life.
And I got your back.
And I got your back.
Oh, baby.
Hey. Hey.
Hey, put effect on that. I could have
put a fact, but I was being lazy.
What I just did um with Ableton, it has
this thing that is is called a simpler.
And with a simpler does, you could go
you could like I could play it at at at
each key. You can sample your whole
track and just play it back and
I can play with it.
Break it down.
So I just play with, you know, if I just
play with it. So I use that to make a
breakdown.
Really the breakdown is whatever what
the original is. This the simpler kind
of like widens it a little bit, but you
have to do it a certain way to get it
that whiff. By my kick being heavy, when
I lower it down an octave, it's going to
be even heavier. And that's what we
have.
We either do that or sometimes we half
time it, but it depends on the vibe and
what we're trying to get. Um, sometimes
the halftime beat will work and it'll
sound crazy and give us this whole new
direction or sometimes just by doing
what what Tim did just gives it a whole
different vibe cuz like the drums were
already hitting you hard and then you
drop it and it just sonically gives you
this whole new character in the drums.
It unlocks this whole new like
soundsscape on the low end that makes it
sound crazy.
See
That's example of halftime.
See, that's Chris doing his thing.
I know. As soon as I do it, I usually
have to put that somewhere. So, I try
not to overuse it,
but
it's a cool special.
Every time you use it, it sounds good.
So, it's really amazing.
See?
Ah, yes.
back there.
Yeah.
Okay. I'm going to share some stems with
you. Challenge me. Be a part of team
Timbo. Now, we made this track.
Beautiful track.
Fetty, what you think is next?
We got to get songwriter to topline on
the song and see what we can do, which
is the most important part really.
Yeah. So Adrian be see what he does.
Yeah. And then we can know what elements
are going to stay, what elements are
going to leave. We have all these
ingredients. We have to see how they fit
the vocal.
When you working like this, it's it's
important for the energy to be always
correct. Have fun. Don't worry about
nothing is whack. If you're doing this
at home, just have fun. Let the music
take you over. Don't criticize it. Just
make a bunch of music and just go back
and play it and you'll know. Just have
fun with it. Don't overthink it. Just
let it hit you and let it let it fill
you. Let it come out you.
Now, when it comes to me and Missy,
Missy likes to be in the room. So, when
I was making that, she'll construct me
how to be Take that out. No, keep it
simple. She's hands on. Missy like she
don't and I don't be in the room when
she do her vocals. She kicks me out
every time. So, I never do her vocals.
So, she'll be in the room. She She got
to be in I make it a beat cuz she has to
feel it. She all and she was the main
one. She was the my sister was the one
who taught me about feeling. I'm like I
do I used to do beats
and she'd be like but yeah it's dark. I
got to I'm a girl. She always I I got to
move. I got to dance. I got to feel it.
Like I got to perform the song. So when
I do a groove she'll bop. She like take
that out. take take you know she was
very
particular about what I put in my tracks
it sounds because it's going to mess up
how she write to it you know had to be
less was more for her I had a little
chop a little piece of a horn said when
when and I just kind of like when
when just kept hitting it back and then
I just found little just like I did with
the track before I found little elements
to fill up the space. So, let's hear it.
Let's play it.
Let's up the key.
Stop it. So, it's only the kick, snare,
and the shaker, and a little sound to
give it the rhythm.
That's it. So, let's hear it from
beginning. You hear it. I point it out.
Tobless. Tobless. Snare. Kick. Shake.
She like when I just pick one or two or
three, not clutter it. You know what I'm
saying? So she can
So if it had a It would throw her off.
It had to be burn.
So she can She's a She's an instrument
herself. So she has to be an instrument.
So when it comes to gossip, I just had
to find the right sonics so she can
capture that that um character. And we
just went through a bunch and I did that
loop. Stay right there. And I
and I just
he like Yeah. She started right to just
that. Then I just start adding the
shaker.
And I had this other sound.
So, I just left it with that.
When it comes to me and Missy, we we are
very special. We a special force to be
reckoned with because she's a producer
herself. She don't go up here and play,
but she knows what she want to hear.
She's very clear on what makes her move
and a lot of and that's why she who she
is today. I mean, when it comes to me
and Missy Elliot,
we are we a true team. And I say not
everybody, all the people I work with,
we are team, Justin, but Missy is the
one. She will take her and Aaliyah will
take the track and go off with the
engineer and come back and will add
stuff to your track that you didn't even
know was there. And you like you put
that and it goes with her song. She took
the double Dutch the uh that's from the
that's from an old record called the
double dutch bus.
Mis,
she took that that part of that song
because we loved it when we was kids and
slapped it in there. She said and then
she came and played it. I'm like, "Oh,
snap." Then she sent it to Ludicrous and
he hopped on it. What I did at the
beginning, that's all I done. The rest
is her. The rest is all her. I did my
part cuz getting to my part is finding
the the the ingredients to make her go
to that level. So, that's a process. And
to find that horn, you know, we probably
sit there for hours to come up with that
perfectang
to make her feel something. And she did
the rest herself.
Okay, so now I have Adrian, songwriter,
group of New City, one of my new acts. I
got him here. I did a track. Yes. Well,
a day ago, and I want to play it for him
and show you how we process music, how
we go to the next level with something
that we already started. So, Adrian,
what's up my G?
What's up? So, I want to play you what
the crew what we all did
for sure
and let let's vibe to it.
Let the speaker speak, man.
See, we don't we don't really talk about
it. We just let the speaker speak. So,
with that being said, Chris
Yeah.
Woo. Yeah.
And as you see,
speakers is talking to it as it's
talking to you.
Break it down. Now,
when you get in the room with an artist,
it's all about just
conversation, just,
you know, just talking. Then you doing
music. It's no thought process. It's all
about having fun. And the music come
out. Then when you first get the first
ooh then we should do and everybody's
throwing ideas you know once the track
is like everybody just throwing bouncing
out. It's the energy you know having a
drink laughing going going in the booth
it's all about making this part fun
because after this is work. Just be who
you are. You're a musical genius. You're
you're a gift. You're a gift of sound.
You're presenting sounds to hear his
lovely voice or her voice serenate
across your lovely instruments and your
your well thought out put together
track. You ready?
Yeah, I'm ready.
Let's do this. Come on.
Basically, now he's going to go in, but
I know you heard the track before had a
lot of instruments, but we empty out
some of the instruments to create space,
right, guys?
So now we empty out some of the
instruments so Adrian can go in there
and layer or do what he do what he do
best. See what he see what the speakers
tell him what to do.
That being said,
Adrian, you ready?
Yeah. All good.
Let's go.
Trying to talk about it.
Don't want to fight about it. Risk my
life without you. I put my life on D for
everything. I can't bring it to you.
Tell me where I got to go. Tell me I
take it there. Tell me if I'm on a roll.
Cuz I can't be the one.
You got to let me know it. I'm taking
you to focus. I'm picking up the focus.
I'm talking about your moment. Can't get
you out of focus. Baby, I know. Yeah.
Working around for the half of my life.
taking over where I
no
try this
want to know if you
know that you
trying to make them
go real hard
trying to
Pause it.
Yo.
Yeah.
So, it was a part go back to that where
to break down that.
Yeah.
No. No. No.
Try this.
Don't know.
That's little melody. Okay.
Want me to put something in there like
that?
Yeah.
That's good cadence.
Yeah. I just took for
match that spot.
It sounds like
you know this is a little different
because usually we work in the dark and
right now you wouldn't see me. You would
just hear me and that's what I think is
better. Sometimes people draw in the
studio to look at the mic booth while
the artist in there. And most of the
time it's better for me and most artists
that I work with, they cut the lights
off because it's a feeling. It's a
feeling of seclusion. It's like you're
by yourself and you get the vibe. But if
you see people with the lights on, it
kind of like you you're doing things and
you're worrying about pleasing somebody
else instead of pleasing yourself.
It's free.
just freeing yourself. But we got to
have we have the lights on so you get to
see part of
not all the way free but semireee free.
But but you know when you love music
here it goes. Music sometimes is not
always what you want it to be. Music you
have to love it to get past all the
hurdles that it come with. Some people
want to watch you. So with that being
said, if people want to watch you, you
got to just love music and say, "I could
do it if I'm standing on the mountain,
if I'm laying in the boat, if I'm
walking on water." You got to just be
able to be ready to go. It's like if you
anything that you do, you got to love it
to say, "You know what? This is not my
most comfortable position, but come on,
bump it. I love it. Let's just do it."
So, we're going to do another take and
let Adrian feel it since we have lights
on till he get into that mood to where
you feel like the lights are off.
You ready? A.
Yeah, man.
Trying to make sense.
I got to make sense.
Picking up them down. Trying to make
plans.
I don't want to talk about it. Making
all the [ __ ] about it. Making all my
friends about it.
Yeah. Trying to make sense about it.
Working on my plans about it.
You got to know that I've been waiting.
I've been trying
to
fight
trying to make it. Will we make it out
alive?
Yo. Yo, hold up. Paul, stop. Now, see,
the feeling is getting there. Now I have
to go in the booth because I hear a dope
part to go to what he was doing. That's
how the, you know, the speakers just
talk to us and that's how we do. We just
vibe out. And now I'm going have to ask
him to come out and I want to come in.
Watch this.
That cool for you?
All right.
From the top.
Hey, you got auto auto turn on for me.
Go back cuz I can't
go backy
trying to make sense.
Yeah,
I got to make sense.
What?
Picking up, putting them down. Trying to
make plans.
What you saying? I don't want to talk
about it.
Making all the [ __ ] about it.
Making all my friends about it.
Trying to make sense about it.
Working on my plans about it.
Want to make sense about it.
Yeah. Yeah.
You got to know that I've been waiting.
What you say now?
I've been trying to keep you fading.
Now, right there, Chris
on that part. Take them all out. So,
just play it with the ad libs that I
just did. Just play with that and then
punch me in on that part.
trying to make it
out alive.
See when it comes over. I don't want to
talk no more. I don't want to do it. Do
it. Do it. Do it. I don't want to get
that. She don't want to talk.
I don't want to get that back. She don't
want to do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.
All right.
Now come back in there.
That was hot.
Yeah, that was Let's hear it. Let me
hear it.
What we doing now? Just getting the
melodies.
Don't pay attention to the lyrics. Yeah.
Trying to make sense about it.
Yeah.
You got
the breakdown coming there.
Now I've been trying to keep
brought up a good point. It takes too
long to get to that drop. So maybe we
need to shift the the pre-arrangement.
Bring it in
closer
over. What? What would it be? Eight
bars.
So be eight bars over.
Um, so play from the top and we'll show
you what
studio is about having fun. Let the
music take you over your soul.
You got to enjoy it.
That's what we doing right now. Enjoying
it with the lights.
Yeah.
I got to make sense.
You got to pick up.
I don't want to talk about it. Why?
Making all the [ __ ] about it.
Making all my friends about it. Yeah.
Trying to make sense about it.
On my plans.
Yeah.
I don't want to talk now. I don't want
to do it.
What was that melody that you did there?
Want to get that dete?
Yeah.
You should go do that.
Yeah.
The vibe, baby. The vibe. It's all about
the vibe and the speakers in the music.
Let it flow and let it hit you. We don't
know what the words are. We don't know
what the song is about, but you're
hearing words that are coming out just
freely cuz the music is telling us what
it should say and kind of giving us
notes on what it should be about, but
necessarily it's not we just having the
music is telling us what to say. I just
do it, do it, do it, do it. It just I
just came freely. I didn't think about
it, but the music and what he was saying
made me think of that melody. So is
being
it's like the feeling of what we're
creating becomes this sort of gravity
pool that just starts pulling us towards
a certain direction where we don't even
know where we're going or where the
lyric is going or what the record is
talking about but it's just
gravitating us there in a very organic
natural way and that's what's cool about
what we do
all while having fun
basically. You ready? Hey
you ready?
I'm good man. All right.
I don't want to get that. She don't want
to
get that.
I don't want to get that kind of
life.
Breaking waves and getting by.
Trying to make our life.
Are we going to make it out?
This should be right there.
We make it right.
Make it out alive.
We going to make it out alive.
Are we going to make it out alive?
So, we just building and trying to find
the right elements, seeing if it's the
right melody. See if it feels good. Uh,
if it's right. So, let's hear it back.
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't want to talk no more now. I
don't want to do it. Do it. Do it. Do
it.
I don't want to
make it out.
I can Let me try again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trying to make this
back. Always trying to get the back.
Baby, can you get the
I don't want to do it, do it, do it, do
it.
I don't want to get that back.
I just want to hold it. I want to get
that. We going to make it
like that.
That was That was it.
Your rhythm is good.
Thanks, man. Did you want me to do it
again or did you want me to
I mean, that's enough for That's cool.
That's cool.
messing with everything else.
Just listen to it.
Yeah.
I think this right here. This should be
something different. Yeah.
Something
that I did my part. You scrunched. What
you say? What you say? No, I was
thinking going back maybe,
but it might be repetitive. Maybe it
just needs a completely different chant
kind of thing.
Post.
We need a post.
Yeah, some kind of post.
Is that a post what I'm doing or what?
Can you run it back to the hook?
What you were doing now? I think it was
kind of a what?
A pre a pre.
It was a pre and I I think Samuel needs
to come, but it sounded cool to at some
point maybe go back to a melody in the
post. I know it's not really the
typical, but I heard in my head that
could work, too.
Let's try.
So, we have the track. We made the
track. Adrian listened to it. He really
liked it. Jump in the booth and he start
improvising melodies. And out of his
improv, then we picking what we like
best for each part of the song. So,
there's like verse material, precourse
material, and hook material. And then
Tim went in the booth inspired with by
what he did and added some really cool
stuff for the pre. Now we want to take
that pre stuff that Tim did and also use
it on the post chorus of the song. So
now is the moment where we have all
these different melodies and we're like
chopping and seeing what works better on
each part.
Yeah. Just filling in the gaps
basically. When I think about
structuring a a song, I'm trying to
think uh in three levels I guess of
intensity. Again, every song is
different and you can break those rules.
But in general, pop music is structure
starting with a verse uh which invites
you into the song. The pre chorus is
kind of letting you know, hey, something
big is about to happen. Pay attention.
And then to me, the chorus is the
climax. So, we're trying to look into
the melodies give you that feeling. Uh
rhythm and the notes, I think, are
important when there's a lot of space. I
think in the verses for example, he's
leaving all this space and singing a
little lower. So that g, you know, it
invites you into a song. It's not
creating any tension on you. It's just
nice to listen to. The pre chorus takes
it a little bit bit to the next level.
And the chorus usually it might be
higher in pitch, higher in intensity, uh
more repetitive. So we're trying to look
for those elements. Now, we don't think
about it when when we're doing it
because we already heard so much music
that we just go by feeling. Uh this is
me trying to explain to somebody uh what
the thought process is behind. But like
Tim said so many times during this
master class is all about how you feel.
I mean you could figure this out
yourself because I'm sure you listen to
a lot of music and you know what the
chorus should feel like and it's
something that when you leave the room
you got to keep singing it in your head
and it's infectious and you always
remember it. you know, when you have a a
song that you and you're structuring,
it's cool to walk away. Don't let it
frustrate you. You know, lyrics, let it
come to you. So, just do stuff, you
know, like walk away, get something to
drink, walk to the bathroom, just do it,
you know, just walk away from the music.
Even if it's you have all the structure,
you still got to cut it off and
just decompress and come up and just
listen to it again. You'll hear
something fresh. I'm always I always do
that. Always hear it. Cut it off. come
back and I hear something totally
different. Just like when I went in the
booth, he did a melody at first, but
then when he came back and did the
second melody, it drew something out of
me. So, and we got that,
but I wouldn't have got that
if he didn't do other takes or try. But
we start overthinking. I think the
moment you start overthinking,
you start losing the feeling and which
is our goal here to create a certain
feeling off the record. And I find that
this is the process of our team now
where it's a crucial part of stepping
away. And in this scenario, we may not,
but typically we'll jump on another idea
and start building just to refreshen the
pallet.
It's like the ginger and the sushi. The
purpose of the ginger, I've heard, is to
refresh the taste palette. And that's
what we're doing. We're just refreshing
the creative and making sure we're not
overthinking. The moment we overthink it
and we try to put it into a formula, we
lose touch with what the record can be
and what the feeling can be. So
there it is.
Studio time is is is expensive, but if
you're getting going, you don't look at
the being
in expense. You just find a way to get
the music out.
And
if if if it don't, you're going to get
something out whether you like it or
not. But your job is to to me bring that
feeling out somehow because you can't
sit there and say, "Oh, I don't have
money for studio time or studio studio."
You don't need studio time. Studio is on
your computer. You don't need studio
time.
This could be your studio.
Yeah. Yeah. Your phone is your studio.
Like no voice.
That's that's that's an excuse. It's not
about a quality. It's like how people
get signed. and they had a dumb demo or
something they made in their house or
they didn't have the money to put it.
But
it's not about that. We know we're going
to get to the quality. People like, "Yo,
that person talented or that track sound
cra if they was in a studio or people
don't have headphones. They use
ear the earpods
and make their beats on a computer. It
it long as you can hear,
you're good."
Nowadays, we see stuff on Instagram that
is recorded with a phone and it's so
much better than stuff that was done in
an expensive studio and those artists
are the ones that we want to contact and
we want to work with and they just
recorded on a phone and we get demos
from people that did it on a great
studio and we don't care.
Exactly. The Hit Factory is where I did
a lot of my records. I don't necessarily
need the Hit Factory. Like I said, I
just need my computer. You don't need a
big old studio to do what you need to
do. This is where I always started from.
I've been doing it for 25 years. The
difference I I come in studios, but I
don't have to be in a studio. We can be
in a small room and if we have a mic
booth, the feeling gonna be the same if
we're in a studio. It's about the
feeling. It's not about no studio. It's
all about the feeling. It's just that
simple and creating what vibe you want
to create.
I'mma share some stems to see what you
would do. Create your own energy. Send
it back to me. Share what you think it
should be. If you have a part, you hear
it now, you say, "Oh, it would be dope
if it go to this, but I don't have
that." So, show me what you have. So,
I'm going to share some stems with y'all
and let the game begin.
Are you somebody man that that was a
song that was the spirit of the moment
it was for a soundtrack called Dr.
Dittle and I remember we had to come up
with a song
by 11:00 the next day. So it was at
night the other day I mean the day
before
and it was me static and Aaliyah all in
studio and I was just going through
sounds. So let's play the track I show
you
so I had a sound just one little note.
So, I took it,
played it on the keyboard to get that
melody. The same way Fatty showed you
how he manipulated a guitar sound with
the Ebo. It's the same way. I started
off at a slow tempo first. I said,
but the the extra notes came later. like
it wasoom.
Then I took it and sped it all the way
up to like about I don't know 145 or I
don't know at that time but it gave it
that
because it was actually the sequence of
the ASR10
didn't when I put quantize it didn't
quantize it the way I was doing it. So
it gave it that I like it's kind of dope
and then I just kept it. So let's play.
Here we go.
That was right.
That was wrong.
So, it allowed me
to do the drum around that. I did the
drum.
It allowed me to create around that
guitar sound. So, when I created the
drums and the guitar gave me that that
kind of cadence of the of the rhythm. Is
it dude? I got the drum
boom
boom. So the other poly rhythm that did
that part. So, what I did once I got
that rhythm, I went back into the mic
booth and said,
I added my mouth elements on top of the
drum and that just gave it that
sweet sonic sound that I call feeling.
Here we go. Push play.
Now, her voice was the icing on the
cake.
And
static writing,
the way static wrote to the guitar was
so
it was as you hear the background but
his melody it gave it the melody. So I
was like yes we getting somewhere. This
feels good. Then when he did this part
we said
it.
So stop right there. So when it comes to
the hook, if you notice, the beat is
three probably three sounds right there
in my mouth. So it's the guitar and the
drums in my mouth. And then when it gets
to the hook, I just added a lead sound
to follow the
And then I was like, okay, it could be
something else. I need to I need that.
So as you saw me going through sounds, I
loaded up Spirit of the Moment. Back
then it was a disc, so it was even it's
the same as this. I don't know. So, I
loaded up a disc and it had all these
effects like toys and
sounds of like just a whole bunch of
sound and I got to this like this baby.
She This baby was laughing like
and I just chopped the other part and I
chopped it the same way I did over here.
This and playing the beat like,
"Oh man, that matches." It's in the same
key. And Aaliyah was sitting behind me
at the time and she like, "Oh, that's so
cool. What's she she just thought she's
like, "Oh." And I said, "Yeah, we got it
now." I I didn't know we had that like
the song is done. You know what I'm
saying? Like, woo, we finished the song
like, you know, and let's play it.
Are you baby?
This is how how it lands. Watch
the space of where the baby laughed at.
Then you know my ad lips of course.
See it's
infectuous. You don't want then daddy
gave me that.
It's more like
I call it
the Kingsman song. You know what I'm
saying? Like the king and his kingsman.
Like you marching.
It's like a nursery rhyme. Gingerbread
man. Boom boom boom boom boom. It's a
nursery rhyme. Kind of like
really. And you hear
that's the fill in.
But then as you hear the end,
can we go to the end of the song where
just the beat and like the you hear you
can really I
mouth drum kicks.
It's all about drops. All the elements
are there. So, at the end, I kind of
always give you a display of the art.
There you go, Chris.
Tell me that somebody. Are you that
something somebody?
And that's how we came up with that
song. is really just like four elements
and you just play around with those four
elements and make the beauty out of it.
But the baby kind of added the icing on
the cake. Her tone
or his tone, it's amazing. It's like an
instrument that's you can never
duplicate.
Just really just all ideas of what I saw
in life as a kid. Like if you really
think about it, B. It's like looa loo.
I got another puzzle for you. It's what
you hear as a kid. You you you have all
these things in your head and you just
try to make them your way. So
it's like it's it gives you the feel of
Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory.
And Willy Walking the Chocolate Factory
to me was complex but simple. It's about
a chocolate factory, but the factory
itself was very complex, but it was all
chocolate. So that song, the the the
movement of the groove is so simple, but
complex. It's not,
it's sac.
It's making you whoa. Then it's a snare
too that keeps it keeps you right here
through all that confusion.
I'm you still right there in her voice.
If I let you down, you can't tell
nobody. And if I just like that, it's
slow, but on top of that beat, it feels
like it's moving fast. But if I just
play ac capella as a snap, you'll be
like, "Wow,
it's just really a simple song." You
know, when you get to the chorus, but I
still kept you on.
You still bounce the same.
Static is such a amazing writer. He's
not, you know, he's want he was, rest in
peace, the best writer I ever he's he is
at that time was like beyond he was he
was above his game. Him and Missy, they
was they was somewhere else when it come
to writing. They always try to challenge
their self and that's really a static
thing, you know. I just did the groove
to make it feel a certain way and give
it that specialness that I thought or
uniqueness. And when we did Are You
That's Somebody, it was like on a
timeline. And I'm young at that time.
I'm just loving music back again. You
got to love what you do. So I didn't
know it was going to be a hit. I
thought, you know, I knew it was cool. I
knew it was dope. I know nobody going to
say nothing. We had did I think before
that one in a million, all these other
records. So the synergy was already
there. I just had to come. I'm trying to
beat or to be on the same playing field
as all those other number ones we
created. But the thing what it goes back
to this,
the chemistry we had first as a family,
the reason we got that song done is
because of the chemistry.
I don't think people influenced me. I
think people had me interested in them
and like how they do that. Dr. Dre is
one.
Dr. Dre, the way he mixed his simplicity
and when you hear
he made stuff sound so
action-packed, so robust, so loud, and
the beat was so in your face. And I'm
like, my minds don't sound like that.
Like, how do you get? So, I was
intrigued how he hear music and how he's
like, you know, when you watch the
Compton, that's what I did. laying on
the floor, listen to music, it just all
day to kill out all the ghetto noise,
you know, and whatever the problems is
like listen to ring my bell. Boo. I be
like, what is that boo? How do you get
that boo?
So
he was a person like he took all the
sonics that I took all those sonics from
those old records and made it hip for
that time. like Ring My Bell. He did
like I'm like yo how he flipped like
wow
Teddy Raleigh the way he mix records it
was amazing. I'm like
it'll be in your face. I'm like then
remember the time like
and I'm like how did that snare like I
can't have this conversation with a
snare? I don't know about that. I'm just
dancing to it. You know what I'm saying?
But for me, that's what I'm thinking. So
though I've been more amazed at their
craftsmanship,
you know, not, you know, I only um look
up to God, you know, said like I look up
to people's talent and their
craftsmanship, how many hours they put
into a mix. Dre will spend days lead the
mix up on the board. That's fascinating
to me because every day he walk in the
room, he's finding something different
with the high hat. Little simple as the
high head. High head ain't right. We got
on this for a week till we find the
right high hat. That's what you call
producing. Back then Dre, Teddy Riley,
Devonte Swing, they knew the sonics of
analog. They made that analog sound so
crisp and so hidden. When you hear uh
one, two, three, the
regardless of the sample, if you play
the original, it don't sound like Dr.
Dre's. You know what I'm saying? So he
took the time
on the board. He did it himself. Not an
engineer, but he knew all those knobs on
a on a SSL. That was his thing. You
know, I have talks. I was more like,
"How do you get your high hats?" You
know, those are question, you know, I
was more intrigued by his sonics. Me and
Forel Forel had a sound and I was like,
"How you get that thing to bounce?" It's
like you know it's
I always look at the people
craftsmanship how they did something
like if I wasn't doing it like that's
what I was trying to do. Oh that how you
do that
those were the people I love their
craftsmanship for real Dr. Dre, Teddy
Riley, Primo
Premiere. That's if people don't know,
Rodney had a Rodney Jurgens had a great
sound. And then there's Nas.
You can hate me now. It's like, oh snap,
there's another, you know, it was it was
moments. We try to make moments. And
that's why I enjoyed the craftsmanship
of these producers because they made
moments that stills live on today.
You should never try to copy
what's been done. You should always try
to innovate what's been done to make me
reminisce what's been done.
take from the past and add on to the
future.
That's what I can tell most. If you're
doing listen to what we've done, but
make it what you're going to do. We
already did it, you know, and that's
what you love about us. Make what we've
created
a new slate for the future, a new era.
So, if I if it was a Teddy Raleigh
snare, we have so many plugins to make
that snare sound. either
spectacular or stupid but got to take
the chance say oh I want this snail then
when people come in the room history
like somebody like me nostalgic will
come that's something like that Teddy
Rug is it how you know like because I
come from craftsmanship
but to their culture it's going to blow
their mind like it blew other people
mind when they first heard it cuz it's
new to that culture to that to this
generation. So, it's just if you're
producing this, take learn as much music
if you can learn. Learn what you like
about it, why you want to do it. You
know, Boy Wonder, I look at him as the
Timberland of to of Drake. Like, he's
Drake's Timberland. Like, I feel like
they got a great chemistry. And Boy
Wonder always tells me I'm a bounce god.
So, like he the bounce king. And I but
first I you know if he would have told
me that a couple years when I first was
in it I wouldn't have understood what
he's talking about. But now I understand
like
cuz he does it. God's plan is it's
simple. It's very simple but it it
grooves and it's infectuous
and and it shows cuz it stayed the weeks
chop infectuous stuff stay at the charts
for like 14 weeks. Now I know he is the
almighty Drake, right? But the sonics
still speak for itself. Drake put out
records and it didn't last the same.
God's playing had a sonic that sound
like a classic,
you know, and it's like you can't try to
duplicate that. You can't. And at boy
tried to say, I tried to duplicate, man,
I got to make another. No, that was then
move on. Like he made the GZ that was
then you had your two cuz like when I
did sexy back from Mrs. Girl, that was
it. You never heard nothing from Mrs.
Girl from us. It just once you make that
cake, let it be eaten,
you know, move on, make another one, you
got to try. That's the whole beauty
about music. It's like
people always come, I need that set now.
You know, goodness. Well, I can't get I
could give you that
template,
but it it's me, Justin. It's a whole
We're going to create something
different because it's it's this is our
energy. And so producers, you know, I
know you're probably somebody might like
I love Metro Booming. I love all the new
producers, right? So they might say,
"Oh, I need someone like 21 Savage." No,
that's 21. Move on. You have to because
if you try to stay in that, you going to
now it's messing your mental up. You're
not evolving. You're just trying to
create what's already been created.
How do you get heard? How do you get
known?
Ambition, persistence, hard work,
dedication, never giving up. That's how
you get known. Always sticking to it. If
it's good, it'll manifest itself. If
it's not, hey, you gave it your all. I
can't tell everybody this. Say, I'm
going to be a music producer. You're
going to be a music producer. That's not
going to happen. It's all about your
perseverance,
your strive to be better than what you
are yesterday. Always trying to be a
better you. Always trying to better
yourself. Always trying to
figure out what you're doing wrong.
Taking criticism, you know. Well, what
you don't, you know, it's going to be
hard days where, you know, you want to
give up. I still have those days, you
know,
but you can't give up cuz this is what
you love.
My first success
was I think if your girl only knew
Aaliyah and
I I I I just wanted my music to be
heard. I don't know what it took to get
that. I was a young kid that was like
I just wanted my music to be heard and
and I'm was so blessed that Aaliyah
loved my sound. Love me and Missy what
we was doing. And when they called and
told us, I remember Barry, her manager,
her record label said, "Congratulations,
got your first number one." I'm like,
"What?" You know, you know, he put us,
you smiling, but it's still I don't know
about the business. I don't know was
wow, people like my music. Yes. That's
all I wanted. You know what I'm saying?
Have some money to, you know, help my
mom out, my dad, you know. But this
lease, but that one that wasn't wasn't
the drive. It was the drive to make the
people say,
"Wow." You know, it wasn't it really
wasn't a drive. It was I wanted people
to hear my music. You know, then as they
heard it, this what kind of like made me
be like, "Wait a minute."
A girl said to me, "You got dope beats
out of nowhere in a mall." You know,
random. Okay. It's Jay-Z on it. That's
Jay-Z. She looked past Jay-Z to tell me
my beats were dope.
So that means my music has touched her
along with Jay and whoever artist was on
the music. But she identified my music,
my template. Moving that one particular
person was more than money or number one
on the charts
because
I was moved doing it. And I know I
wanted people to be moved. And when she
was when she told me that it's I know
there's millions of other people out
there that might feel the same way, but
I needed that one voice. So
that was a a moment that said, "Thank
you, God, you know, for the gift.
To be honest with you, I'm a type of
guy,
you know, I at one point I didn't spend
nothing, which I'm like that now. Like I
don't spend no I just want to spend on
music stuff, music equipment, new stuff,
new ideas. And you know, you got to be
careful cuz once the fame come, you want
to try things and it's nothing you can
do cuz it's going to hit you in a
different form. I'm telling you how it
hit me. You know, you get hot, you start
feeling yourself. So now you neglect
what got you hot and that's music. So
guess what? Music is now going to leave
you. God's going to take that gift
slowly. Your ears are not going to hear
the same because you're worshiping man
things, not the gift that God gave you.
And
always stay focused on the gift.
The gifts will come, but don't let the
gift leave you.
And
always stay persistent, but you're going
to have falls and bumps.
Do you love music enough to get back up?
That's the key. And realize your
mistakes
to get known out here. You'll be known,
but it's all about your perseverance and
trial and error.
We have so much available to us that
it's all in you and what you want to do.
It's all in your feeling and yo I can
really do this. Your mom might say you
better go to school. Your dad tell you
might do this. But if you believe in
that, why is you on the computer looking
at this MacBook? These squares, these
squares is gonna make this house become
a mansion. You know what I'm saying? You
have to know that. But you don't express
it because music is not about making
money. Money will come, you know, but
you got to know that my music is good
and people want my music. People want
this feeling, you know, and it's not a
joke cuz a lot of people like
my computer's nothing looks real because
you're making something and you're not.
People think you're not working because
you're hitting stuff. You're being lazy.
Get out the bed. Do this. Do that. Or
your mom could be a kid could be that's
on a computer all day. Go. Oh, you need
to get a job. Yes, you do need a job.
You need a job. She can say, "Yes, I
need a job to buy more plugins, more
sounds, more this." Oh my goodness.
Invest your money into school. This is
school. And you know, it's hard for
people to register that music producing
is school. Cuz every day you're on that
computer, you're learning something
different. How to manipulate sound, how
to move it a different way, how to shift
the energy this way. It is school. you
people just don't see the payoff because
I'm not going to a job. I'm not clocking
in. That's the amazing part about
producing and being great at what you do
cuz the sky's is the limit. It's like I
look at it like Infinity War, you know?
You got all the six stones. What you
going to do with it?
Every job that you choose in life is
going to test your faith and your
perseverance and who you made of and
if you easy to quit and it maybe not be
made is not meant for you. Now you can
stop take a break
but to just leave it alone completely.
If people if a handful of people said,
"Man, you got something." And it's like
the opposite people outside of your
circle, you need to keep striving. You
need to keep pushing. You know, there's
confirmation out there for you. It's not
like you don't have confirmation.
There's confirmation out there. You
getting the strangest people saying,
"Yo, your track's dope." But you might
want this person to say it's dope. It
will come. It will come in time. This
will tracks what I thought was dope that
I gave to artists, they didn't take.
maybe want the time to take them. Maybe
I gotta wait. You know, some people when
it do happen, you hear people like,
"Man, I did this all by myself. Oh, blah
blah blah." That's cool. But the real
attitude to have
is
yes, my faith, my trial, my perseverance
paid off and just ride away because
guess what? Everything has an end point.
But it don't stop you from what you do.
Now we come to the end of my class. I
hope you enjoyed what you heard, what
you saw. Thanks for watching. I hope
you're inspired. I hope you enjoyed it.
Until the next time, see you soon.
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