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(Transcribed by TurboScribe. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Can I put it this out?
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Yeah.
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There are trust to
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me to be able to myself is their
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number first mistake.
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Join us now as the investigative journalist Jeremy
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Corbel.
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Good to see you.
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Corbel is an investigative journalist who helped obtain
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and released the DoD footage of UFOs and
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made contact with this DoD whistleblower as far
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back as 14 months ago.
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The front lines of UFO disclosure.
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It is scary if that's true Joe.
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I think you guys are.
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investigative filmmaker Jeremy Corbel got a shout out
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during the hearing for attending UAP videos and
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releasing them to the public.
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The images obtained by Jeremy Corbel, the Pentagon
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confirming the images are being reviewed by a
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task force.
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The man who's been pushing for better transparency,
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Mr. Jeremy Corbel.
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It's everywhere as of late and now the
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government's starting and I'm like what's going on
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today exists.
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I also wanted to thank the President Corbel
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for writing these documents and access to some
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whistleblowers.
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The footage is incredible.
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The United States government has gathered a great
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deal of information about UAPs over many decades.
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Biologics came for some of these recoveries.
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Were they, I guess, human or non-human
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biologics?
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Non-human and that was the assessment of
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people with direct knowledge on the program I
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talked to that are currently still in the
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program.
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And Jeremy Corbel played a big role in
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bringing these questions to the public.
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If he looks familiar, that's because he was
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sitting behind Braver, Grush and Graves today in
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that testimony.
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Thanks for having me, man.
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It's the duty of journalism to investigate the
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unexplained, not explain the uninvestigated.
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Slowly the U.S. government has acknowledged that
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they're real.
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Corbel released these videos.
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What else is weird is Jeremy Corbel said
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a bunch of people are going to start
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saying there's a mothership coming to Earth and
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don't believe him.
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Remember he was saying that?
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Somehow he does have inside cons, but if
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he says too much, he puts his whole
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life in danger.
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We've talked to you so many times over
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the years.
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You're one of the world's leading experts in
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UAPs and UFOs.
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It's the most unconventional figure in this space
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covered in tattoos, a former martial artist, a
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former artist, and yet he's somehow the one
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in the know, standing at the center of
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it all.
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I've been holding a secret for about 11
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years.
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You know, absolute proof beyond any reasonable doubt.
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UFOs are real.
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They're threatening the life of a journalist.
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Yes, you are.
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Why?
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Why?
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Why?
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Why you waited for 11 years?
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Why didn't you do this that year?
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I needed to verify it myself.
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George and I will be briefing eight Congress
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people on video.
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I'm telling you this over the phone, so
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any intelligence agency that has a Pfizer on
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my phone, which my lawyer is sure they
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do, knows that I am having that meeting
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and now a lot of people know
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about
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it.
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All right.
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If you look in the 70s and 80s
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with the CIA, they used to have reporters
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on their payroll.
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They don't respect anybody.
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If you do something that kisses them all,
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they're not going to come after you, not
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only you, they're going to come after your
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family.
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And you've seen that happen?
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Yes.
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It's one of those things where if you
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become a liability, if you really have stuff
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that is that sensitive, that you cannot release,
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you're relying on your connection as a journalist,
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they're going to treat you to the dogs.
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I've been having a very surreal series of
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days, yeah.
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Hey, thanks so much, man.
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I appreciate it.
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Of course.
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The daily reality of how often do I
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get contacted, government whistleblowers or just the average
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person that says, what the fuck is that
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I just saw?
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You know, launch a star link or something
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like that, a rocket, nonstop.
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I don't think there was any fuckery, but
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I need you to confirm.
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So this is how it came.
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How do you know what to go after?
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I see original Polaroid, holy shit.
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And where is this from?
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It's from Los Angeles National Laboratory.
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Your dad died, right?
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He passed away about a month ago.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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My dad died, too.
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What was your dad's position and why do
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we find this interesting?
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He was in charge of all computer and
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cyber security for the entire laboratory.
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So I sent you some official documents from
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the lab that talk about meetings they had
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about atmosphere anomalies.
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There's also some information in there about Russian
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sightings.
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I recognized some of the names because I
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know a lot of these motherfuckers.
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I had no idea what my father did.
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He never discussed his job.
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Why are you nervous?
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Just tell me from legit why you're nervous.
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I can tell you're nervous.
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I don't belong in this world, but here
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I am.
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The UFO world?
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I don't belong in this world.
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I'm like the least qualified person on planet
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Earth, but I thank you for your trust
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because the one thing I am is I
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am worthy of your trust.
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I don't know.
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I'm going to relax though because I feel
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really uptight right now.
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It's a crazy fucking week.
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He was the most curious kid ever.
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Then I heard that he was listening to
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George Knapp.
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Hello and welcome to One of the Records.
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About nine months ago we invited former state
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senate candidate John Lear to appear on this
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program to talk not about politics but about
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UFOs.
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George Knapp, he's a journalist who broke the
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story about Area 51 several years ago.
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Thank you both for being here.
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That just weaponized his curiosity.
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Well, I did say, Jeremy, maybe you need
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to find another career.
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I said that to him and he's one.
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Yeah, right?
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He knows way too much.
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I'm afraid he's going to die.
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There is a hit out on him.
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That's what I was told.
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And he's now going to be able to
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protect himself.
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Am I an investigative journalist?
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I'm a husband?
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I'm a daddy to my doggies?
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Really my business is apartments and properties.
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This is the glorious life of a UFO
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hunter.
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There's the maintenance and the renting.
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This is how we make our money.
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So it's like the UFO thing for me
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is out of passion and because I love
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it, these are solvable problems compared to the
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UFO thing.
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The UFO thing unimaginably difficult.
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I don't know what to say about it.
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How does somebody get so deep into the
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UFO subject?
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To really understand the full picture, I'm going
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to need to start where it all began.
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Tissue is a deep area.
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Yeah, stop.
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I'm not going to fucking hate it.
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Do you need to go see Sensei Jeremy
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Corkell?
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Martial athletics, I sense it nine years old.
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You know, first time I was able to
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punch somebody in the face and not get
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in trouble for it.
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I was in severe pains, what you'd call
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growing pains, but I had my hips x
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-ray.
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They're thinking about coming and cutting out the
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bursa.
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I mean, all sorts of crazy stuff.
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I was also very inflexible because of this.
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I have ADD and a decoding disability that
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makes it very difficult sometimes for me to
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focus and concentrate.
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Or at least you're really used to it.
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I'm highly dyslexic.
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I have one of the highest levels of
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dyslexia.
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Needless to say, growing up was a challenge,
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okay?
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But what I realized is obstacles are opportunities.
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I could see where I was going.
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All these schools, more money than I could
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ever spend realistically as a young kid.
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So I had everything and I was just
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curious.
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Is it possible there's anything else for me,
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my spirit, like what I'm to do, and
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goddamn did life answer.
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So I was in Nepal.
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I was like, where's the easiest place to
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keep moving, to keep going?
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I was like, okay, I'm going to go
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to India.
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When I started getting sick, I thought I
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had bronchitis or something, you know, take antibiotic.
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I remember calling my mom and dad and
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telling them something isn't right.
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Like, I'm coming home.
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He sort of blows things off like, oh,
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it's no problem.
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I'm not stressed.
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I can handle it, but as a mom,
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I had contracted valley fever, but it had
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become so corrosive in my body untreated because
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I was overseas.
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It had fucked up my kidneys, my liver,
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my heart, my lungs, but it was also
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in my bloodstream.
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Being a martial athlete, that was my entire
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identity.
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When your identity is so wrapped up into
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something and then you don't have that animal,
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you can't do that anymore.
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You feel like you die.
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I started taking apart computers, putting them back
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together again, just something I could do mentally.
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An exhibit honoring Afro Sharon Tate was on
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display in Culver City.
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It was a symbol of freedom and she
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was a symbol of love.
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I don't even know how that happened.
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Total accidental artists.
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Whole career was because of an illness, you
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know?
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And I was having testing done like every
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three days for blood, so they always took
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it and looked really beautiful.
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It was red, you know?
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And so then they gave me, I said,
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well, that's beautiful.
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I need that for my work.
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And so then they gave me, I have
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loads of it.
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I got a camera for my wedding.
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I started practicing on my honeymoon.
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Like, how to use it.
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He did those black and whites out there
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and that's when I started learning about where
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his brain was going.
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The first person that I ever pointed a
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camera at and was like, oh fuck, it's
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like a Rubik's cube.
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You know, I gotta get this person talking.
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It was really hard was John Lear.
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In more than five years since we've been
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hosting these programs, no guest has inspired such
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a widespread and enduring audience response as has
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John Lear, son of the famed aviation pioneer,
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and the world-class pilot in his own
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right.
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That was approached by a government theoretical physicist
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who employed by the government, who works on
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his answers up at room like, he has
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seen the aliens, he is tired of the
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cover up.
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John Lear, people know about him because his
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father was the inventor of the Lear jet,
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eight track stereo.
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This is a guy that had some credibility
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in some ways publicly.
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He was the person that you want to
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be able to interview and talk with about
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this phenomenon.
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I am so hungry and curious to know
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what I don't know.
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I mean, it's like a sickness, bro.
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It's like, it's a sickness, you know, like
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my curiosity.
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It's a sickness.
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The government has retrieved between 10 and 15
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lateral flying saushers, three of which have been
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in perfect condition, one of which they tried
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to fly.
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They have between 30 and 50 alien bodies
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in cryogenic story.
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It's not about your foes to me.
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You know, what got me interested?
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Well, I always point to what I heard
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Bob Lazar on the radio.
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Well, there's several, actually, nine flying saushers flying
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discs that are out there of extraterrestrial origin.
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I was a 13 year old idiot kid,
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but that really sparked me.
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But, you know, I put that down.
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I didn't devote my life to it from
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there.
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Bob Lazar is the reason why you know
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about Area 51 and you know about UFOs
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and popular culture.
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The original, I guess, whistleblower about the UFO
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thing.
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He says he was hired to work at
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an area called S4, which is a few
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miles south of Grum Lake.
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At S4, he says, are flying saushers and
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other working examples of technology that is seemingly
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beyond human capabilities.
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The live interview with the shadowy dentist drew
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international attention.
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His real name is Robert Lazar.
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The choice of dentists was an inside joke.
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He says that's the name of his superior
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at Grum Lake.
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It wasn't a joke to dentists.
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Why did I go for John?
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Probably because, you know, in this part of
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my brain, I knew that the Bob Lazar
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story was somehow filtered through Lear.
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That's my driveway.
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That's Bob.
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I remember trying to get a hold of
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Lear for over a year.
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Hi, Mr. John Lear.
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I'm not at home right now, but please
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leave the message and I'll get right back
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to you.
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Thanks.
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But I remember at one point, I just
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cold called his phone and he picked up.
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I couldn't believe it.
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And then how open he was with me.
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So I just saw this like window, you
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know, there he is.
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And I said, hey, man, I want to
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learn about UFOs.
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Come on over, Jeremy.
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What the hell?
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You know, what's this crazy person?
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He doesn't know me.
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And I didn't even really tell him I
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was a filmmaker because I wasn't a filmmaker
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at the time.
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So I said, cool.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I want to bring, you know, a camera
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and kind of documents into what you're saying.
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And I think he was just hungry for
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attention.
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He said, come on over.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Come to Vegas.
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Lost Vegas in Nevada.
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Come on over.
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I'm like, OK.
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Hey, John.
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I'm out at the gate.
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And then
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of course when I got there, he wouldn't
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say shit to me.
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So like at the time he wasn't supposed
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to smoke and drink and all that stuff,
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he always man.
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He made me get like ghosts, get him
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cigars and sneak them in the house.
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All the stuff his wife didn't want to
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have.
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Jeremy, sneak me in a five pack of
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Philly Titans.
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You can get him at Walgreens.
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And I wasn't getting shit from him unless
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I brought the cigars, you know.
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Being 13 years old, I was so influenced
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by this thought that there's a prolific, intelligent
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life.
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Technologically advanced everywhere.
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That's how I heard a John here.
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I've no fucking idea where this is going.
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But my journey now is to tell the
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real story, the real message.
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It's the start of a new journey in
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my life.
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He was so passionate about it.
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I was happy for him.
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I didn't think he would make any money
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having that as a career.
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I hope it answers questions and I hope
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it gives me a million others.
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His toilet would be broken and it's like
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ghost flushing and I can hear the sound
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in my footage.
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So I go and fix the ghost flush
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and the toilet because I've done it a
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billion times because of my history of maintenance
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and property and all this stuff.
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And once he realized that I could do
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that, game over man.
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I'm like the handyman at his house.
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And then computers, forget about it.
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The whole thing and this just has the
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contacts.
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John there wouldn't tell me shit about UFOs.
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But once he started, it was years, man.
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Just telling me everything.
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The moon was constructed in Jupiter about 20
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billion years ago.
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And it was towed to Earth sometime between
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that 20 billion years and now.
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There's been many many civilizations on the Earth.
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One of the most advanced civilizations is buried
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under the Sahara Desert.
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They were erased and then they grow again.
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They were erased.
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This is where you get all these stories
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about the civilizations like Atlantis and Lemuris.
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Anyway, the moon is a place for the
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guards to be sure that we don't escape
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or don't get away.
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While we're on Earth, we're touring our souls.
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This is John Lear from the Lear Family.
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And the guy had this personal story that's
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so wild and where did he end up?
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Who's imprisoning us?
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Those guys.
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The bad aliens, they do interfere with our
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lives.
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As a matter of fact, they're pretty much
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in control of Earth right now.
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There was a table of scientists there.
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Oh, thanks, darling.
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I had to make it a little healthier
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for the kids.
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Because I had to put chicken on it.
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Do you mean anything to drink honey?
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What?
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You mean anything to drink, you guys?
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No, this is fantastic, but I could have
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a glass of water.
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Well, John Lear was a real crazy, conspiracy
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guy.
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But he was, Jeremy was fascinated with him.
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With John, it wasn't so much what was
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true.
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How did this guy come to believe these
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things that are so extraordinary or wild, right?
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Yeah, the guy I was talking to here
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helped build the pyramids.
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And he helped build the pyramids back in
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the day?
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Yeah, these are gods.
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How did he do that?
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The aliens are gods demons or something.
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I was just kind of documenting this human
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being that had these ideas that were so
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far out there.
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We had landed on the moon before.
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He said six times, but just not with
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people?
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No, we never landed on the moon.
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Did I say that?
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As far as Dr. Mitchell and whether he
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believes or not that he went to the
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moon.
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Lift off.
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We have lift off with Apollo 14, three
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minutes past the hour.
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This is very tough because Dr. Mitchell is
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a hero.
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He participated in that program.
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He's going to be very irritated to know
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that he's been the victim of mind control.
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Well, he didn't introduce me to Dr. Mitchell.
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He more or less challenged me.
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Ladies, you have a photo director and sent
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you to the staff of the group of
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the Dean of the Vermont Partners folks.
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Dr. Alvin Wayne is joined by Captain Edgar
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Mitchell and Apollo 14, and pilot.
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This is the sixth person to ever walk
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on the moon.
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Why do you think that there's people that
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no matter how much proof you give them?
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They don't want to believe that you walked
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on the moon.
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Bob's friend, a guy named John, John Lear,
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he might have heard of him before.
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He's the son of the guy that invented
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the Learjet.
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I know, I know.
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It was one of those people that just
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doesn't buy NASA's story about the moon landings.
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I was not aware that that was Lear's
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attitude, and I'm sure to hear that.
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I know his father quite well, and that
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makes no sense to me.
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That's not why I was there.
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I was there to talk to Dr. Edgar
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Mitchell because he was born in Roswell in
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New Mexico.
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People talked with him without a filter.
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Everybody involved with the Roswell alleged UFO crash.
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They're going to, of course, talk to an
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astronaut who walked on the moon.
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I grew up near Roswell in New Mexico.
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I was on my way off to college
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when the so-called Roswell incident took place
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in 1947.
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He knows everybody from when he was born
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and raised there.
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Several of the people come to my sleeve
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and say, can we talk about?
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They said, well, the UFO idea, what it
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turns out, these people were all descendants of
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what I call old-timers.
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For example, the descendants of the undertaker who
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had provided small coffins out to the military
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to carry the bodies of the agencies to
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AT's.
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That if you're an astronaut and you start
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knocking on doors of government and start talking
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to people, they're going to trust you.
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So I knew that he had insight into
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the UFO thing that he had not been
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saying publicly.
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I knew he did, but I wanted to
557
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,380
find out how much of that is belief
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and how much of that is very specifically
559
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the knowledge that he had that other people
560
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didn't.
561
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,080
So that's why I was there.
562
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,060
I did not give a fuck about the
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moon.
564
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,960
I did take this to the Pentagon a
565
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few years later, and we did get an
566
00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:45,340
interview with the intelligence officer, the Joint Chiefs
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of Staff.
568
00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:47,340
It's just not just government.
569
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,620
It's not just military.
570
00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:52,180
It appears to be a cabal, President Eisenhower
571
00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:56,340
on his retirement, warned against the military industrial
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00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:56,900
complex.
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00:24:56,900 --> 00:25:01,000
So what we have here likely is a
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cabal of the military industrial complex, worldwide, that
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00:25:06,060 --> 00:25:09,940
has been able to control this thing and
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hold it for their own purposes.
577
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,100
There's no question that David has very strongly
578
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:16,900
been here and are here.
579
00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:18,840
Six men to walk on the moon, right?
580
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,280
Yeah, that's a pretty cool friend to have,
581
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man.
582
00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:22,540
He knew some people.
583
00:25:22,740 --> 00:25:24,260
He could connect me with people.
584
00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:25,260
That was really cool.
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00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,560
I learned a lot from him, not just
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00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,400
from him, but some of the people he
587
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,460
led me to speak with.
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My name is John Alexander.
589
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I spent 30-some euros on the military.
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I went from private to Colonel.
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00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,760
My second career was Los Alamos National Laboratory.
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I worked in aerospace.
593
00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:44,620
While in the military, I created an ad
594
00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:47,800
hoc group on UFOs and studied it subject
595
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,580
intentionally.
596
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,820
It was top secret.
597
00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:52,280
And what you know is a both top
598
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,020
secret classes.
599
00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:55,700
We had people from all of the services,
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00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,820
the intelligence community, and aerospace industry.
601
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,620
What we found was not at all what
602
00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:02,060
we anticipated.
603
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,080
What does that mean?
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00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,780
Every agency was interested.
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00:26:07,180 --> 00:26:08,740
Every agency knew the stories.
606
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,580
Everybody thought somebody else was doing it.
607
00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:13,840
UFOs are real, and I mean by that,
608
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,160
a very hard craft, a trans-physical reality
609
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,200
as we know it.
610
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,100
Whatever this is, is far more complex than
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00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:23,000
we ever anticipated.
612
00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:26,020
We're not even asking the right questions yet.
613
00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:28,700
Start a sentence with John Lear is.
614
00:26:29,580 --> 00:26:32,120
Oh, John Lear is a very interesting and
615
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,180
colorful character.
616
00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:38,520
Unfortunately, we violently disagree on notions of reality.
617
00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:42,300
Certainly, I firmly believe that we did put
618
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:42,980
him on the moon.
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00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:46,100
You guys seem to have, you know, some
620
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:50,720
sort of respect for one another despite the
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00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,320
fact that, you know, he took it totally
622
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:53,740
crazy.
623
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:54,940
Yeah, well, let's understand.
624
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200
I mean, his history with the United States,
625
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,560
Ireland, and we both were in Southeast Asia.
626
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,640
Certainly respect those kind of adventures that the
627
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,120
guy really had quite an exotic past.
628
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:11,040
Do you think he would intentionally lead me
629
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,360
the wrong way just for his own kind
630
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:14,580
of pleasure or?
631
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,920
I have no idea.
632
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,500
I mean, you're asking about his motive.
633
00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:21,040
I have no idea or way to discern
634
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,940
that.
635
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,800
Free this.
636
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,220
I think they went to them.
637
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,540
Because they got on this big ass rocket.
638
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,120
He shot it up in the air.
639
00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:35,340
You think they could have been fake?
640
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:36,120
No.
641
00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:42,060
Do you ever ask yourself, like, are you
642
00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:42,760
just nuts?
643
00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:45,320
Am I just nuts?
644
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,140
Yeah, do you ever ask yourself sometimes?
645
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:48,640
Am I just nuts?
646
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,680
No.
647
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,660
I know this is all real.
648
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:52,660
That's where I'm at.
649
00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:56,380
And if I'm not too bad, it's a
650
00:27:56,380 --> 00:27:57,400
great ride, you know.
651
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,560
It was a constant barrage.
652
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,820
And to this day, a lot of it
653
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:03,360
was bullshit.
654
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,000
It doesn't mean he didn't believe it.
655
00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:07,160
You know, he believed it.
656
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,380
You say this as if you've seen it.
657
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,500
So, how do you know?
658
00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:14,280
About seven years ago, I was on abovetopsecret
659
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,820
.com, and a guy started to post.
660
00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:18,020
His name was Sleeper.
661
00:28:18,380 --> 00:28:21,660
Talking about being in the army and having
662
00:28:21,660 --> 00:28:24,080
been picked up by aliens and taken all
663
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,960
over the universe.
664
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,560
He's talking about this guy, this guy that's
665
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,960
like a UFO Jesus.
666
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:30,400
I mean, some weird guy.
667
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,400
And like you said, he met the dude
668
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:33,600
online.
669
00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:34,720
The dude wrote some books.
670
00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:37,820
Well, he was brought here to Earth in
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00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:38,360
1952.
672
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,480
The main problem is to get out of
673
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,800
here this prison planet.
674
00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:48,240
And according to Sleeper, I'm dying.
675
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,400
But when he says little angels like John
676
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,660
get passed right on through without judgment.
677
00:28:56,660 --> 00:28:58,480
That's pretty strong.
678
00:28:59,380 --> 00:29:01,020
And did you see the part yet where
679
00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:03,520
I fucking made them meet face to face?
680
00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:12,320
I guess, you know, proceeding with John, I
681
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,080
was wondering if at your convenience, if you
682
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,800
have interest, you know, to meet him.
683
00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:23,900
Because as far as for his ideas, as
684
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:25,640
I've said, you've played such a pivotal role
685
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,320
in his understanding.
686
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,700
He has such an admiration.
687
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,820
It seems like it goes both ways.
688
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,360
Any month, any time.
689
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,820
You know, just for a couple days, a
690
00:29:33,820 --> 00:29:36,260
weekend, you know, I could, you know, essentially
691
00:29:36,260 --> 00:29:37,640
bring you out to Vegas.
692
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:57,280
Do you
693
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,760
want to do it over?
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