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The thing all of us musicians are being
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taught
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is or all artists are being taught is
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find your voice. Right? I remember
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reading Keith Jared talking about this
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going, you know, everybody was telling
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him to find his voice and he's going,
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I got my voice. I was born with my, you
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know, with my my musical voice. And he
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was much more interested in
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what how what he what he can use it for,
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you know. So, I was I don't think I was
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born with it, but you know, through my c
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cultural influences, where I'm from, you
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know, what I listen to as a kid, you
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know, just the way I learned an accent.
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I have an accent. I have a voice, you
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know, and when I want to do the blues in
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the Louise, I can do the blues in, you
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know, it's it's still my voice. And if
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you know, stick with Ridley, if I want
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to go and do faux Roman music in
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Gladiator, you know, I can or faux
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Vagnerian music, it's it still sounds
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like me. Um, so rather than trying to
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find your voice, just acknowledge that
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it's there and just listen to it, you
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know? It's it's like recognize it. I
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remember having a some weird fight
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undoubtedly aboutuling which is where
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things usually get unstuck with me. Um,
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you know, with Gabinsky and my music
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editor Melissa coming in afterwards and
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going, you know, God was really pissed
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off. And he said, you know, he'd fire
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your sorry ass except for when you sit
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down and you play those moody chords,
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you know, and so no, and he's,
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you know, yes, don't fire me because
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I'll play some moody chords for you that
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might
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No, I don't play virtuistic, but I
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I have an aesthetic and I have a feel
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and you know
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what when my fingers land on the piano
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it's different than when somebody else's
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fingers land on the piano.
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I don't know if I believe in talent, you
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know. You know, people keep saying to
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me, "Oh, he's really talented or this
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guy is really talented or this woman is
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just an amazing talent." And then when I
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investigate a little bit further, it
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turns out it's just somebody who works
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really, really hard and really dedicated
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and makes their life about something
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they're passionate about. And at the
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same time, just being passionate about
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something doesn't mean you're any good
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at it. Um, you see it you see it all the
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time that that that you think you think
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somebody is a talent and they do
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something really remarkable and you go
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and what's the next thing you're going
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to do and there's sort of nothing. You
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know that happens time and time again
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where where people can create one great
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thing and then it stops and the whole
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point is it's not maybe so much about
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talent but it's about what's the next
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thing. The first thing, yeah, of course
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you're going to write the greatest album
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because you just, you know, like as a
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teenager, you know, when you join a
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band, you, you know, your first 17 years
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of experience is all going to get packed
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into that first song. And yeah, there
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should be enough material there to make
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something great. Or the first movie you
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make, of course, it's going to be great
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because there's all that, but it's the
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second movie which is tricky and the
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third movie which is tricky. And I think
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that's where the that that's where the
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talent part comes in in a funny way that
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um the talent to stay relevant, the
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talent to still have something to say,
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the talent to still um find something
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that moves people. The thing I notice
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about the people I work with that I
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think are talented is they usually do it
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despite everybody's good advice. you
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know, they grab something out of the air
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that nobody saw before. Um, if you say
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to them, "Don't do this," they'll figure
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out a way of doing it. Or if you say to
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them, "It's a bad idea. This is a
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terrible set of notes. A terrible set of
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notes. Don't play that." They'll play it
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and sort of con suddenly out of ugliness
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create incredible beauty. And it's that
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sort of recklessness which you know
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which I think it takes to
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manifest talent, you know. So
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write as well as you can. Write to the
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best of your ability, you know, and test
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the limits of your talent. because I
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have no idea if there's talent or if
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there's no talent. But I just see people
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constantly pushing beyond the boundaries
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that other people have imposed on them.
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One of the reasons, you know, I I I was
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fascinated by wanting to do this was
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because one of the first things that
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really got me interested in film was
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seeing the documentary about Van Hatsuk
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doing Fitzaldo, Burden of Dreams. And I
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remember going with a whole bunch of
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people and we're all watching this and
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they're all basically sitting there
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going, "Oh my god, look at this. This is
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just crazy behavior." you know, and then
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one thing after the other goes wrong and
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this guy is just plowing ahead making
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this movie against what was it? There
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was a war going on. Yeah. like
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everything was going wrong and all I
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kept thinking about was I want this is
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this is I want to hang out with people
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like that who are that passionate about
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things that are doing things you know
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that have the singular vision this laser
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beam focus you know all I know is the
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people that
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I come across that do great work are the
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people that ask the most questions and
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they are by nature inquisitive and they
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can be inquisitive about the the the
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weirdest things. I mean, you know, it's
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it's I mean, you can have a conversation
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about all sorts of things with Vera and
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the there there is a you know, like he's
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darting around all over the place and
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it's it's
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you get the sense that there is a a huge
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big uber super supra question that he's
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forever trying to ask, but he doesn't
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know what that question is. So he's
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looking at all these other little things
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that seem to feed into how to formulate
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the question, you know, and all the
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people I know, all the people I've
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worked with that are really good at what
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they do and that that keep making great
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music or making great films, that they
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have a childlike inquisitiveness
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about them, a childlike innocence about
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asking the question, asking whatever
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question it is. and suddenly finding
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great joy in in something that other
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people think is trivial. And despite
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look, this is this is a musician's life.
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A musician's life is really simple. It's
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everybody tells you not to do it and get
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a real job because everybody will tell
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you you can't survive. You can't earn
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any money at it. That you know, it's
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it's all over anyway. And then secretly
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and I I might be completely wrong. So
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this is supposed to be called
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masterclass as opposed to disaster
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class, right? But just for a moment
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imagine
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that with all the new technology that's
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being invented and all the progresses in
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medicine and science we make and the
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economy and everything else that all
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that stuff is it's all very well but
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it's not what I do. The only thing that
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I can find refuge in and the only thing
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that I can contribute to the world is
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tell your story. And I have a feeling
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that when all is said and done and we
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built the highest highrises and we built
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the fastest machines, there's still
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going to be room for somebody to tell
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you a story or somebody to write your
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piece of music. And
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I'm not a brain surgeon. I'm not a
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rocket scientist. But if I can tell you
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a story, if I can move you just with a
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couple of notes, I don't know if it's
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talent, but I didn't, you know, I didn't
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waste my time. And at the end of the
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day, I think that's what it's about is
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are you wasting your life or you're not
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wasting your life? And when I see Vanna
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Hatsuk in the jungle uh under brutal
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conditions and putting people into
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brutal conditions and
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I don't think anybody had a dull time.
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It wasn't boring what they were doing.
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You know, they weren't wasting their
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time.
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And I think that's there's a lot to be
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