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We're always trying
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new things.
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We are so used
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to having crappy products.
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Daft Punk thought about
their music before they made it.
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That makes a real difference.
And weirdly enough,
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creating those robot personas
let them stay human,
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grounded and completely free.
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They bought their freedom
by sending the robots
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to do their dirty work.
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They were proud to release an EP
on the same label as Stereolab.
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That's how it all started.
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Guy-Manuel and Thomas
were 17 or 18 back then.
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They thought everything
had been set in motion.
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But a critic from Melody Maker
called them "daft punky thrash".
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That made them stop and wonder.
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It changed the optimistic view
they had on their music.
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It took them six or seven months
to send me two other tracks.
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I think they just
did not want to go that way.
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They would say "you'll have
the new tracks next week",
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but what they really meant was
"we don't care.
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We have
other things to think about."
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We were 18
when we went to our first rave
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on the roof of Beaubourg.
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We discovered a new kind
of music and energy
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with people dancing to music
they had never heard before.
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Something new
was happening on that scene
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and it was still alternative
and underground at the time.
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Not the kind of music
you heard on the radio.
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We thought there was
something to be done
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with electronic music.
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Thomas,
Guy-Manuel and I met there
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and the closer we got, the more
we could feel the vibrations.
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There's a track from Chicago
with a dark voice
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singing
Can You Feel The Bass...
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It was the last major revolution
in recent decades.
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Electronic music and hip-hop
were the last great revolutions.
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Everything since then
ultimately comes from
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one of those two movements.
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There were people
discovering drugs as well.
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I remember Thomas saying
he did not like it
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because using ecstasy made you
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lose your critical faculties.
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And that was it.
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He hates nothing more
than losing control.
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I called and asked them to come
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and to bring their demo.
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When they arrived,
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they were wondering
what was going on.
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They come in, their eyes
wide open. Guy-Man is blushing.
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I introduce
the people from Slam.
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We didn't have a name.
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We decided to use
the name from that bad review.
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They called us "daft punk".
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They have a very clear vision
of their careers
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because they get advice from
Thomas's Bangalter father.
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He produced disco music in the 70s
under the name Daniel Vangarde.
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He helped them work out
the deals they were offered.
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He was the ideal advisor
for a band
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making dance music
produced in France
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with lyrics in English
and aimed at the whole world.
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We've received faxes
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from Denmark, Sweden,
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Spain, Japan, New York...
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although
we've only sold 15,000 records.
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It shows
that there is an audience
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for that kind of music
all around the world.
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When I met them
in 1995,
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between the Scottish label,
and their energy and talent,
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Daft Punk were already
in demand
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for a live set.
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I would say that they were
recording their first album
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and a live set
wasn't possible yet.
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Technically, it was stunning.
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That music
was made in a bedroom...
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this big.
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There were electric cords
all over this child's bedroom.
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Child's. Not teenager's.
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It was full of cables,
keyboards and stuff.
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The two albums which changed the face
of electronic music were made there.
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The specificity of our music
and our work is that
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there is a real interaction
between music and technology.
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In a way, we consider technology
to be a part of the band.
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Thomas
is a genius with machines.
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When he was working on
their debut album,
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he read his instruction manuals
once a month.
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He was one of the first
to have a Macintosh in France
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so he had a very early approach
to computer-aided
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music and images.
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But artistically
there's more to him than that.
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He creates wonderful melodies.
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He has a real feeling
for what makes a hit.
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Guy-Man is the mystical one.
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There's just one thing
that works for him
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and as long as he hasn't
found it, the rest is junk.
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The contract we signed with
the label is 100% good for us
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so we've avoided problems
that others artists have had
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with their record companies.
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The deal they signed with Virgin
was a break with the norm.
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Artists usually signed for
4 or 5 albums for a percentage.
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They said "no,
we own our recordings and
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we'll give you the rights for 10 years."
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This showed me something.
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What I learnt was
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that success
is built on solid foundations.
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Guy-Man and Thomas
were already thinking
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about an international deal.
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They already had quite
a clear vision of their career.
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Their album was almost ready,
they were finishing it off.
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From the start, they already
understand the business.
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The business model is in place.
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They know they need complete
artistic freedom and control
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of their image
and everything else.
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They were able
to impose their own rules
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because
they were OK financially.
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They were not starving.
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They even became an example
for hip-hop bands
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who were influenced
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by their business model
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which was said to be
the greatest hold-up ever.
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They invited us to listen
to the album in Thomas's flat.
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We went with the London Virgin team
and some of the French team.
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It was fantastic, a small studio,
with not much equipment.
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We listened on a ghetto blaster,
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which impressed us all.
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It was a revelation.
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We listened
to one hit after the other.
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Spike Jonze's video
had a huge impact.
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When Michel Gondry hears about
Daft Punk, he has the great idea
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for the music video
of Around The World.
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Where's
that stupid little black box?
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I'm looking
for the remote control.
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It's crazy.
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Why would I have
put it somewhere else?
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It has only one use.
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That's the story of my life.
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Alright.
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I met them in a hotel room
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in London.
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I was sitting on the bed
and they were on chairs.
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I don't like having an idea
before talking to the group.
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I don't want to get on the wrong track.
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I always talk to the band first
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before I propose anything at all.
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I think it was Guy-Manuel
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who came up with the idea
of a choreography.
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Choreo-
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graphy.
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I asked
my designer Florence Fontaine,
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although
we did not have much money,
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to make robots.
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She used motorbike helmets.
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She added two antennas.
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Then we decided to cover
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the visors
with semi-transparent tape.
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I think it's the first time
they wore helmets.
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Maybe it was their idea
and I just worked around it,
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but I think I wanted them
to look like Robocop.
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One question,
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techno music is supposed to be
underground, anti-star system.
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Yet you're becoming stars.
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How do you feel about that?
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I still believe
it's anti-star system.
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We try not to expose
ourselves too much.
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The music is the only thing
that really matters.
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Then people
decide for themselves.
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But we're not really trying
to show ourselves off.
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The choice
not to show their faces anymore
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was made when they decided
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to go to the top
by signing with Virgin
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with the aim to sell records
and to conquer pop culture.
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Before that, they released EPs
with a small Scottish label.
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The movement was underground
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so there was no reason
to protect their identities.
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Hiding one's face
is part of techno culture.
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The founders of techno
like Underground Resistance did it.
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When techno emerged,
it was a faceless music.
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Back then, people even danced
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backs turned to the DJ.
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Americans had done it before.
Kraftwerk did it and Kiss.
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All pop stars invent
and reinvent themselves.
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They aren't born that way.
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When I talk to David Bowie,
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I'm talking
to one of his thousand avatars.
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Not to the Bowie
born in London in 1947.
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Those bands influenced them
by using make-up and costumes.
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They did photoshoots
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at the beginning
but they probably thought
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they looked like kids.
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What could be smarter?
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That was
part of the process as well.
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How to still make music
when you're 40?
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When Homework is released,
they are what shakes up the 90s,
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they bring a new energy
with their electronic music.
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It soon becomes clear
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that all the major pop stars
want to get in touch
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to produce them
or to work with them.
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People from all around the world
want to work with them.
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Janet Jackson,
Madonna, George Michael...
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They all tried
to collaborate with them.
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Thomas and Guy-Man
always answered politely
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but there was no collaboration.
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I can't see a thing.
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We have to walk slowly.
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They would send me to buy masks
at the last minute like the time
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they did the NME cover.
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I would buy cheap masks
from joke shops.
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It wasn't very well prepared.
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Once in Japan,
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they went to the shop an hour
before their meeting with EMl.
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They bought crazy costumes
to disguise themselves.
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They did not
want to play the game.
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There's a good story about
meeting Virgin in New York.
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We were all
going to a restaurant.
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A huge limo was waiting for us.
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Thomas and Guy-Man see that.
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They don't like it at all.
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So they decide to run away.
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I'm left alone in this limo
with the people from Virgin.
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Thomas and Guy-Man
took the subway
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and I got there in the limo
with Virgin.
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It's a rejection,
a philosophical position...
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They don't partake
in the charade.
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Do you use your anonymity
to get closer to your public?
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We do live
a lot of exceptional things
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but we still have
a very normal everyday life.
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We live more like our audience
than the artists
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who have
the same kind of fame as ours
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but who are attached
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to physical recognition
by the public.
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The band, and especially Thomas,
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had a fascination
for the Millennium bug.
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How to explain that in 1999
these two guys wear masks
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and on the 1st of January 2000,
they become robots?
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That's the Millennium bug.
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We told the journalists
that they were in the studio
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and at midnight
something happened.
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Thomas and Guy-Man
became robots.
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WE ARE NOT DEAD
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BUT WE'VE BECOME ROBOTS.
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I remember very well
the first tests at Alterian.
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We'd been driving a long time
to get to Los Angeles.
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I was hoping
it would be worth the trip.
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We arrive there
and meet Tony Gardner
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who was
kind of a nerd, with glasses
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surrounded
by monster heads and dolls.
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From 2001on, they're
no longer two regular guys.
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We're talking to robots.
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Last time I interviewed them,
we talked for three hours
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and Thomas
never used the word "I".
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It's crazy. The first person
singular no longer exists.
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It is totally erased.
They are Daft Punk.
253
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It's still playful.
But they control everything.
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They're still kids.
255
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One More Time
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is THE song that opens up
the USA for them.
257
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,079
It's crazy to think
258
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,599
that it took two French
white guys from Paris
259
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,039
for Americans to discover
260
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,439
house music when it was invented
by African-Americans.
261
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,799
They were lucky
because they started out
262
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,879
at the same time
as home studios.
263
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,199
Albums needn't be recorded
in a limited time anymore.
264
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,759
They can spend
four or five years on an album.
265
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,519
This album
is important for pop music.
266
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,879
It's one
of the first post-sample albums
267
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,839
which builds music
out of other sounds.
268
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,799
Sampling means
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00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,919
taking parts of a song,
looping it over and over
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until it becomes music.
271
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,239
But they changed them so much
that samples became unrecognizable.
272
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,119
They had colossal ambitions
273
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,239
for their work.
274
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,239
They recorded their second album
while making Interstella 5555.
275
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,559
It was a silent anime
276
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,319
which came alive with music.
277
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,119
Their original idea
just took off.
278
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,999
The music video
turned into a feature film.
279
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,559
They got into debt
because they were the producers.
280
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,079
No record company
would have produced it.
281
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,959
Daft Punk is not
just about making music.
282
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,159
It means controlling a universe
283
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,599
and protecting it
from any outside intervention.
284
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,519
They answer to no one.
It's punk and rebellious.
285
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,119
Interstella was ten years
ahead of its time,
286
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,879
before the big TV shows
featuring lots of bands
287
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,239
who are then
tied to the network for life.
288
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,479
They made a wishlist of people
289
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:43,639
they wanted to work with.
290
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,039
Leiji Matsumoto was number 1.
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00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,599
He's the man
behind Captain Harlock.
292
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,239
People born
between 1975 and 1980
293
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,719
were fascinated by
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00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,359
Japanese animes.
295
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,399
Captain Harlock was
quite different from the others
296
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,359
that were childish and colorful.
297
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,279
Captain Harlock
has a huge scar on his face.
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00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,479
He's a pirate.
299
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,359
If not a rebel,
he's definitely marginal.
300
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,639
The way I see it,
301
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,319
the robot has a human heart.
302
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,839
He is
a calm and non-violent being.
303
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,719
If necessary,
304
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,319
he protects people.
305
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,039
He becomes their shield
306
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,919
in order to do so.
307
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,439
This vision come from the traditional
308
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,479
representation of ghosts
309
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:02,559
and other supernatural beings.
310
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,679
In the Japanese tradition,
311
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,159
they are not evil monsters
312
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,839
but beings who have hearts
313
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,439
and a free spirit.
314
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,919
My hero
315
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,319
Captain Harlock often says
316
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,239
"I live freely under my banner!
317
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:30,119
But I also accept
all my responsabilities."
318
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,119
All creativity should be
based on this principle.
319
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,519
There was
a kind of reaction after
320
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,399
the huge ambition
of the Discovery album.
321
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,719
We wanted to go back
to something raw.
322
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,799
Since we are Human After All
we'll record it in two weeks.
323
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,519
This is the music
we want to make.
324
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,759
When this album came out,
325
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,959
it disconcerted a lot of people.
326
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:50,439
Even the media
327
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,919
and people from the label.
328
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,039
It was more difficult
for us to promote
329
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,599
this album.
330
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,719
There was no single to play
331
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,999
on the radio
so we had to find ways
332
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,639
for people
to talk about the album.
333
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,399
I think
the public did not understand.
334
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,319
People are used to saying
335
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,999
debut albums are underground,
the second's a success,
336
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,639
and the third one
even more successful.
337
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,319
But they were not
running after success.
338
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,199
I think
they just wanted to express
339
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,119
what they had inside.
340
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,399
People tend to say
341
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,279
this album is not as good.
342
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,599
People expected
something else from them.
343
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,479
In any case, that's what you hear.
344
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,719
It's interesting to see that
years later, those same critics
345
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,199
reevaluate the album...
346
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,279
and realise the impact it had.
347
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,719
It attracted
a wave of French producers,
348
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,199
the French Touch 2.0,
349
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,959
inspired by Daft Punk's energy
350
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,119
and a return
to the raw energy of techno.
351
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,039
Bands such as Justice
352
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:36,319
and the new generation
come out of Human After All.
353
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,959
The robots dress up as humans
and eventually kill themselves.
354
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,439
Maybe they were trying
to tell us something.
355
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:27,879
Is Daft Punk over?
356
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,959
That crossed my mind.
357
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,199
I figured they were done with
the masks and had a new idea:
358
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,279
showing their faces.
359
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,959
They probably thought about it.
360
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,119
They had the great idea
361
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,919
of simplified robots
dressed in black leather.
362
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,999
It was Mad Max meets Tron.
363
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,839
300,000 dollars
for a Daft Punk concert.
364
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,119
I say the band is not touring
365
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,399
but it's a big offer,
so I'll talk to them.
366
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,559
Coachella 2006 was a big risk.
367
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,159
The band
is going through a rough patch.
368
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,319
People think they are
outdated and maybe uncool,
369
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,399
that they didn't reinvent themselves
with Human After All,
370
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,559
which is essential
371
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,159
when you are a major band
of the electronic scene.
372
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,559
They are almost over.
373
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,839
They call me back
a few hours or days later
374
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,639
to ask me to say
they might be interested.
375
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,359
I go to the rehearsal studio
ten days before Coachella.
376
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,799
I see everything, the set-up,
the pyramid, the LEDs...
377
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,599
Now everyone uses LEDs,
even nightclubs.
378
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,199
But back then,
379
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,279
to cover the pyramid with LEDs,
we had to go through
380
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:32,039
all the suppliers in the USA.
It was no easy task.
381
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,959
Thomas and Guy-Man
382
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,279
ask me to sit down while
they play me what they have prepared.
383
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,159
It was just the audio part.
384
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,959
They don't let me see
the pyramid yet.
385
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:54,599
It's a mix of their three albums
and it's amazing.
386
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,999
It's Daft Punk's turn to go on
and we're backstage with them.
387
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,279
We're dressing the duo,
checking the last details.
388
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,879
The tent gets so packed
it's overflowing with people.
389
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,599
We realise
Daft Punk's return is awaited.
390
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,079
We start to get the numbers.
391
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,839
There's 40,000 people
when the tent can only host 10,000.
392
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,279
Everyone took out their phones.
393
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,439
It was the time people started
filming with cell phones
394
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,919
and the beginning of YouTube.
395
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:34,519
It was crazy.
396
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,879
Everybody was so stunned
by the power of the show
397
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,279
that they filmed it
and posted it on YouTube.
398
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,359
I'm not ashamed
to admit I cried.
399
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,319
I was moved by the show
and people's incredible reaction.
400
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,519
It was completely unreal.
401
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,039
A spaceship had landed
in the middle of the desert
402
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:20,159
and there's 40,000 of us happy,
stunned by the light and sound.
403
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,239
The pyramid was
the start of a gigantic tour
404
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,039
and of a movement
in the United States
405
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,519
called Electronic Dance Music.
406
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,399
The starting point
was the pyramid at Coachella.
407
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,399
A whole generation of musicians
was in the audience.
408
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,359
They discovered it
and they were blown away.
409
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,519
Bass players, drummers,
410
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,999
all those musicians are
part of the history of music.
411
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,439
They are the rhythm sections
412
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,439
of Quincy Jones,
George Benson, Michael Jackson.
413
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,199
It's not easy to sum up
as just a studio musician's thing.
414
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,359
The dream of house music was
415
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,119
to revive the spirit
of dance and disco
416
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,639
which no longer existed.
417
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,039
I think that with Tron,
418
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,399
they got to be students again,
people who wanted to learn.
419
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,799
And God knows how hard
it was for them.
420
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,199
They'd built Daft Punk not to have
to answer to anyone and yet
421
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,639
they're ready to take orders from
one of the largest corporations.
422
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,999
It was like
walking into the lion's den.
423
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,919
When I met Thomas,
I was 12 or 13.
424
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,319
Phantom of the Paradise was
the film that covered it all.
425
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,919
It was like a Warhol trip,
426
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,879
not just the music,
but the film, the cover design.
427
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,479
This film had it all.
428
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,279
I wanted a mix of the two
to forget that they are robots.
429
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,159
I think that works well.
430
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,719
They didn't take their helmets off,
not for a second.
431
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:31,719
That obviously created
a surrealist atmosphere.
432
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:37,119
We expected them to take
their helmets off between shots.
433
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,079
But they didn't.
That was very powerful.
434
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,159
I imagine it hasn't always been
easy for them to work together.
435
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,239
There are a lot of pitfalls
in a career like that.
436
01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:56,999
Some people may even
have issues with their ego.
437
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,679
But those two always tried
to stay on the right path,
438
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:07,159
almost like
a model of human behaviour.
439
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:09,319
That's very rare.
440
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,839
I've been working
in music for 30 years
441
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,479
and less successful people
don't even say hello.
442
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:23,919
But not them. They pay
the same attention
443
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,679
whether talking
to a nightclub bouncer
444
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,479
or to the boss
of a record company.
445
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,879
To keep these qualities
throughout your life,
446
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,039
you have
to win battles with yourself.
447
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,999
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