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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,700 --> 00:00:05,280 The shots we are going to show you 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,900 constitute a series of truly remarkable feats 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,440 cinematographic. The filmmaker 4 00:00:12,460 --> 00:00:16,099 follows, in their dizzying ascent, the 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,320 specialists in big rock climbing. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,880 We are here in the realm of the most tragic fragility. 7 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,700 Nightmare. Absolutely terrifying nightmare. 8 00:01:47,450 --> 00:01:49,160 My name is Cédric Lachat. 9 00:01:50,980 --> 00:01:53,740 And I am what's commonly referred to as a pro 10 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,660 climber. 11 00:01:57,940 --> 00:01:59,530 What does it mean to be a pro climber 12 00:02:00,820 --> 00:02:04,420 ? Well, it means traveling around the world from competition to competition, 13 00:02:04,740 --> 00:02:06,460 climbing the highest on a wall in a gym. 14 00:02:06,820 --> 00:02:10,759 It means being the best, better than anyone else, all the time. 15 00:02:12,380 --> 00:02:12,700 Okay. 16 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,640 That was a long time ago. 17 00:02:19,180 --> 00:02:20,580 It's still Danette. 18 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:26,140 Today, I no longer compete and focus on climbing outdoors. 19 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:29,860 What does it mean to be an outdoor climber ? 20 00:02:31,020 --> 00:02:34,380 Well, it means traveling around the world from crag to crag. 21 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:37,380 It means attempting the hardest routes on the planet. 22 00:02:37,420 --> 00:02:40,560 It means pouting when you're not good enough and it's too hot outside. 23 00:02:41,940 --> 00:02:44,180 And whining when your fingers hurt. 24 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:50,920 I like living the dirtbag lifestyle, spending time alone 25 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,380 outdoors, experiencing adventure, just like my 26 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,160 forebearers who forever made an impression on a generation of climbers. 27 00:02:59,500 --> 00:02:59,900 Yes, 28 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,440 that was 40 years ago. 29 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:13,320 I spend most of my time in my van, driving from cliff to cliff. 30 00:03:14,540 --> 00:03:17,740 I like the freedom, the calm, and hearing the birds sing. 31 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:22,140 Climbing creates a genuine bond with nature and the elements that... 32 00:03:25,460 --> 00:03:29,220 Well... That was a 33 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,420 long time ago. 34 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:31,680 Okay, 35 00:03:32,900 --> 00:03:33,340 Back to work. 36 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,700 In the past few years, climbing has changed at an unprecedented 37 00:03:40,740 --> 00:03:43,840 rate, and we find ourselves at a historic turning point. 38 00:03:45,540 --> 00:03:47,420 With the rapid growth in climbing gyms, 39 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,140 the number of people pulling down on plastic has exploded. 40 00:03:52,180 --> 00:03:55,600 And now, as an official Olympic sport, climbing's 41 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:58,940 long-time counterculture is currently experiencing 42 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,900 a 21st century transformation. 43 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:07,220 With the rise in popularity of indoor climbing, the sport has gone 44 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:11,180 mainstream, while at the same time, managing popular 45 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:14,980 areas involves increased regulations, and in some cases, 46 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:15,940 closures. 47 00:04:18,921 --> 00:04:22,800 What legacy will we leave for future generations of climbers ? 48 00:04:22,820 --> 00:04:25,680 Will more restrictions be placed on outdoor climbing areas ? 49 00:04:26,820 --> 00:04:29,480 What will the future of climbing be 50 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,220 ? 51 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,420 Hold on a second. 52 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,370 To understand where we're going, 53 00:04:56,380 --> 00:04:58,120 we need to know more about where we've been. 54 00:04:59,660 --> 00:05:02,640 Let's take a quick look back at the history of climbing. 55 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,580 Tree-climbing equipment by the French Alpine Club, which are the starting point of 56 00:05:09,620 --> 00:05:13,350 large expeditions, do not hesitate to risk their lives for 57 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:14,440 conquer the mountain. 58 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,280 From the end of the 19th century through the middle of the 20th, 59 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,040 mountaineering and peak climbing were the main motivations for climbers. 60 00:05:24,140 --> 00:05:26,500 At the time, only the summit mattered. 61 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,660 Cragging and bouldering served as the training grounds for building the strength 62 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,300 and technique needed for grander adventures in the high mountains. 63 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:40,800 Many vocations were born in climbing schools, and many of our great 64 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:44,720 Mountaineers have perfected their technique there to the point of constantly retreating 65 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,160 the limits of their capabilities. 66 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,280 Rock climbing started to develop as its own discipline in England, 67 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,080 Italy, and Germany. Climbers accomplished genuinely impressive 68 00:05:57,140 --> 00:06:01,040 feats with very little gear, where falling was simply not an 69 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:08,644 optionIn 70 00:06:08,704 --> 00:06:12,384 the fifties, climbers set up camp in Yosemite, where the 71 00:06:12,424 --> 00:06:16,404 valley's now legendary granite big walls saw their very first 72 00:06:16,444 --> 00:06:19,224 descents, all requiring the use of aid technique. 73 00:06:21,224 --> 00:06:24,244 The image of climbing a while back was Camp 4. 74 00:06:25,004 --> 00:06:28,924 It was Yosemite, it was dirt bags, it was drugs, it was 75 00:06:29,344 --> 00:06:32,484 anarchy. It was like the system. 76 00:06:42,864 --> 00:06:46,484 In the eighties, sport climbing became a separate discipline 77 00:06:46,944 --> 00:06:48,524 with its own distinct identity. 78 00:06:49,944 --> 00:06:53,924 It wasn't reaching the top that mattered, but the succession of hard moves 79 00:06:54,004 --> 00:06:54,544 to get there. 80 00:06:55,344 --> 00:06:59,234 The sport earned its wings carried by a multitude of emblematic 81 00:06:59,344 --> 00:06:59,714 figures. 82 00:07:00,944 --> 00:07:04,144 The number of female climbers began to rise quickly. 83 00:07:19,684 --> 00:07:23,024 Once part of the counterculture on the margins of society, 84 00:07:23,764 --> 00:07:27,344 climbing became all the rage and suddenly experienced an 85 00:07:27,384 --> 00:07:29,304 influx of money and sponsors. 86 00:07:30,664 --> 00:07:34,584 The first artificial structures were built to meet the needs of competitions, 87 00:07:35,004 --> 00:07:38,784 giving birth to a new sport where all the rules had to be 88 00:07:38,824 --> 00:07:39,884 invented. 89 00:07:45,344 --> 00:07:49,224 In the nineties, training methods progressed at a blistering pace, 90 00:07:49,904 --> 00:07:53,004 and artificial climbing walls began to appear everywhere. 91 00:07:54,584 --> 00:07:57,864 Since then, it has all moved so fast. 92 00:08:01,824 --> 00:08:05,544 From the turn of the 21st century through today, the number of 93 00:08:05,604 --> 00:08:07,824 indoor climbing gyms has skyrocketed. 94 00:08:08,304 --> 00:08:12,204 Gyms offer kids the opportunity to start climbing at a young age 95 00:08:12,244 --> 00:08:14,984 and have contributed to pushing the upper limits of free 96 00:08:15,024 --> 00:08:25,704 climbing. 97 00:08:28,904 --> 00:08:31,644 Climbing is now a worldwide sport. 98 00:08:37,764 --> 00:08:41,744 Just as sport climbing broke away from mountaineering, gym climbing 99 00:08:41,784 --> 00:08:42,574 has done the same, 100 00:08:43,764 --> 00:08:46,404 creating its own rules and heroes. 101 00:08:57,684 --> 00:09:00,144 But while sport climbing has never been more popular, 102 00:09:01,564 --> 00:09:05,184 what is the current state of traditional places like cliffs and 103 00:09:05,244 --> 00:09:06,804 crags all over the world? 104 00:09:08,034 --> 00:09:12,284 I've 105 00:09:12,604 --> 00:09:16,224 been climbing on cliffs for years now, 106 00:09:16,364 --> 00:09:19,714 and over time, I've seen that there are always more people, 107 00:09:20,504 --> 00:09:25,124 and 108 00:09:25,133 --> 00:09:27,834 that our actions are becoming more and more important. 109 00:09:27,834 --> 00:09:30,913 If we can't change things today, I think our 110 00:09:30,913 --> 00:09:33,824 outdoor sport is really 111 00:09:34,084 --> 00:09:36,973 threatened. To make the 112 00:09:36,973 --> 00:09:39,854 documentary, I went to see lots of 113 00:09:39,854 --> 00:09:43,404 different people: climbers, local authorities, 114 00:09:43,644 --> 00:09:47,633 federations. I went to example locations 115 00:09:47,664 --> 00:09:51,284 and emblematic cliffs. It's complicated to make a film like this without being too 116 00:09:51,944 --> 00:09:55,794 moralistic. So, with my little touch of 117 00:09:55,864 --> 00:09:59,664 humor, I'd like to show our actions and behaviors that can harm our 118 00:09:59,704 --> 00:10:00,224 practice. 119 00:10:05,244 --> 00:10:05,884 New block. 120 00:10:06,824 --> 00:10:08,014 Here you arrive, you don't see 121 00:10:08,284 --> 00:10:14,224 the 122 00:10:14,234 --> 00:10:17,134 hole. So... 123 00:10:18,124 --> 00:10:18,214 Two 124 00:10:19,264 --> 00:10:20,154 fingers. When you want to 125 00:10:21,124 --> 00:10:24,494 aim right, you make the two traits, because otherwise you 126 00:10:24,494 --> 00:10:25,474 aim there, you aim there, you're never on it. There, it's the little finger. 127 00:10:25,474 --> 00:10:26,404 There, it's the big finger. There, it's the middle. 128 00:10:26,724 --> 00:10:30,564 You 129 00:10:30,724 --> 00:10:32,764 see, it's still not precise enough. 130 00:10:32,804 --> 00:10:35,504 There, it's not bad. 131 00:10:40,184 --> 00:10:43,224 Ah! I missed it again! Oh, that's 132 00:10:43,264 --> 00:10:44,624 good. 133 00:10:58,464 --> 00:11:00,704 Fontainebleau is really a forest out of the 134 00:11:00,984 --> 00:11:04,364 ordinary, unique in its 135 00:11:04,404 --> 00:11:07,144 kind, with all its blocks and this granite of a quality 136 00:11:07,204 --> 00:11:10,104 you will find 137 00:11:10,124 --> 00:11:13,184 nowhere else. 138 00:11:14,324 --> 00:11:17,384 This forest is a area south of Paris 139 00:11:17,984 --> 00:11:19,454 that was covered by 140 00:11:20,304 --> 00:11:24,264 the sea 60 million years ago, and when the sea left, it left 141 00:11:24,284 --> 00:11:28,244 sand behind. This sand crystallized into rock. 142 00:11:29,364 --> 00:11:32,364 Over 27,000 hectares, it is covered with rocks, 143 00:11:32,844 --> 00:11:36,724 and indeed, when you observe them, you 144 00:11:36,784 --> 00:11:38,484 can see amazing shapes, elephants, 145 00:11:39,364 --> 00:11:41,924 eagles, faces. 146 00:11:45,184 --> 00:11:48,624 The main problem in Fontainebleau today is 147 00:11:48,704 --> 00:11:50,464 overpopulation. 148 00:11:53,064 --> 00:11:56,304 In some car parks, we counted more than 2,000 vans, 149 00:11:57,604 --> 00:11:59,404 knowing that the car parks have 150 00:12:00,244 --> 00:12:01,333 about a 151 00:12:01,664 --> 00:12:05,084 hundred 152 00:12:08,284 --> 00:12:08,294 spaces. 153 00:12:16,776 --> 00:12:17,736 Oh, it's a campsite. 154 00:12:18,556 --> 00:12:22,425 No, that's not possible. I just bought a van for 60,000 bucks, I'm not going to 155 00:12:22,436 --> 00:12:24,456 Paying another 10 bucks for a campsite. 156 00:12:25,096 --> 00:12:28,316 Okay, I'll go and sit anywhere, it's free. 157 00:12:33,016 --> 00:12:36,866 Margalef is a site that dates back to the origin of 158 00:12:37,016 --> 00:12:40,766 Paleolithic and which evolved over the course of the 159 00:12:40,816 --> 00:12:44,246 time. Today, one of its main strengths 160 00:12:44,856 --> 00:12:46,296 is climbing. 161 00:12:47,176 --> 00:12:50,176 And now we are in the situation that everyone 162 00:12:50,256 --> 00:12:53,116 knows. More or 163 00:12:54,116 --> 00:12:54,546 less, about 164 00:12:56,716 --> 00:13:00,376 Between 60,000 and 90,000 people come to the village each year during these 165 00:13:00,396 --> 00:13:01,376 recent years, including approximately 166 00:13:02,656 --> 00:13:04,255 80% are 167 00:13:04,316 --> 00:13:10,496 climbers. 168 00:13:12,536 --> 00:13:16,376 The forests, and especially that of Meschia, are characterized by these magnificent 169 00:13:16,996 --> 00:13:18,886 chestnut forests where 170 00:13:19,796 --> 00:13:23,496 sandstone rocks are deposited on these soils 171 00:13:23,976 --> 00:13:27,436 musky in very beautiful vegetation. 172 00:13:28,736 --> 00:13:32,596 This creates a harmony between the beauty of nature 173 00:13:32,656 --> 00:13:36,486 and the beauty of these rocks sculpted by millennia of 174 00:13:36,836 --> 00:13:37,816 bad weather. 175 00:13:42,176 --> 00:13:46,096 Initially, what we did, me in particular, was to do 176 00:13:46,136 --> 00:13:48,136 There's a lot of publicity for this place. 177 00:13:48,176 --> 00:13:51,346 Meschia was one of the first places to have suffered a closure 178 00:13:51,346 --> 00:13:52,476 drastic. 179 00:14:01,696 --> 00:14:05,076 I'd like to describe Val Bavona as a very wild 180 00:14:05,536 --> 00:14:05,956 place. 181 00:14:08,496 --> 00:14:10,616 There's something about it here that's really special. 182 00:14:11,116 --> 00:14:14,136 And not only is it a very wild place, it's also a very 183 00:14:14,956 --> 00:14:18,056 raw and kind of intense place. 184 00:14:26,596 --> 00:14:29,816 Valle Bavona is a special place, 185 00:14:29,956 --> 00:14:31,676 magic. 186 00:14:35,056 --> 00:14:38,986 For me, it's definitely a place where it's possible to escape for a little while. 187 00:14:39,056 --> 00:14:42,685 of everyday reality. It me 188 00:14:42,796 --> 00:14:45,616 I really enjoy nailing; it's part of my way of life. 189 00:14:45,696 --> 00:14:47,716 rock climbing. 190 00:14:50,196 --> 00:14:53,796 The major problem that pretty much all development is experiencing is... 191 00:14:53,856 --> 00:14:57,086 Climbing in Ticino in general is that one does not 192 00:14:57,296 --> 00:15:00,416 did not expect in the past that escalation could 193 00:15:00,476 --> 00:15:03,516 attract as many people as possible to our 194 00:15:03,596 --> 00:15:05,276 territory. 195 00:15:10,136 --> 00:15:11,376 The spirit of climbing 196 00:15:12,356 --> 00:15:13,256 is about being free. 197 00:15:16,056 --> 00:15:17,816 It's about being a bit of a rebel, 198 00:15:19,516 --> 00:15:22,596 about going against the grain of society. 199 00:15:25,016 --> 00:15:28,756 If you play basketball or tennis or soccer or 200 00:15:28,856 --> 00:15:31,986 anything, you have lines on the field and 201 00:15:32,436 --> 00:15:35,596 rules. And the beauty of climbing is that it's free. 202 00:15:41,256 --> 00:15:44,816 And you can go and create your own path. 203 00:15:55,286 --> 00:15:58,366 Of course, this is the big dilemma, to make first ascents, 204 00:15:59,716 --> 00:16:03,606 creating a new path. Maybe it's okay if it's one or two people doing 205 00:16:03,636 --> 00:16:07,136 it, but if it's a million people doing it, then it's not sustainable, right? 206 00:16:07,976 --> 00:16:10,716 So how to keep that spirit 207 00:16:12,036 --> 00:16:15,696 while also having some structure, having some regulations. 208 00:16:25,276 --> 00:16:28,776 So one of the things that we're dealing right now with in climbing 209 00:16:29,236 --> 00:16:32,136 is this paradox of how to manage the growth of the sport. 210 00:16:34,396 --> 00:16:36,516 Society mirrors itself through climbing, 211 00:16:37,336 --> 00:16:41,256 and the evolution of climbing is a mirror into the evolution of 212 00:16:41,296 --> 00:16:41,716 humans. 213 00:16:43,636 --> 00:16:47,396 Especially outdoor climbers like myself, we see a 214 00:16:47,616 --> 00:16:49,996 massification in recent years. 215 00:16:50,286 --> 00:16:52,076 I think that at one 216 00:16:52,936 --> 00:16:55,756 At some point, we will have a problem if we 217 00:16:55,766 --> 00:16:59,756 let's not try 218 00:16:59,796 --> 00:17:03,536 to solve this 219 00:17:03,576 --> 00:17:04,336 quickly. 220 00:17:04,376 --> 00:17:08,017 For years, attendance was reasonable at 221 00:17:08,056 --> 00:17:11,757 surface view. For about fifteen, twenty 222 00:17:11,816 --> 00:17:15,716 Over the years, it has accelerated, and today there are sectors that are very affected. 223 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:19,576 due to erosion, to the point that we are forced to close the 224 00:17:19,616 --> 00:17:20,076 sectors. 225 00:17:26,156 --> 00:17:29,946 The more beautiful a place is, the more easily it will be besieged by 226 00:17:30,216 --> 00:17:32,816 the masses and the more quickly it will be 227 00:17:32,876 --> 00:17:34,276 destroyed. 228 00:17:36,036 --> 00:17:39,696 There are very sensitive areas that will not be able to 229 00:17:39,796 --> 00:17:42,276 Never welcome too many people. 230 00:17:42,836 --> 00:17:46,616 It's a major objective problem in general, if you want 231 00:17:46,656 --> 00:17:50,646 finding a balance between nature and the wishes of the owners 232 00:17:50,776 --> 00:17:51,836 And 233 00:17:52,816 --> 00:17:56,036 the climbers. 234 00:17:56,136 --> 00:17:57,276 Clac, clac, clac. 235 00:17:57,636 --> 00:18:00,456 Try not to put yourself just anywhere, on your right heel. 236 00:18:02,136 --> 00:18:02,896 Come on, lie. 237 00:18:03,476 --> 00:18:04,356 There, perfect. 238 00:18:05,336 --> 00:18:09,206 Just a little higher. Come on, 239 00:18:09,416 --> 00:18:11,056 There, you go up, you go up, you go up, you go to the flat again. 240 00:18:12,396 --> 00:18:14,936 I can't. No, but this sport is too stupid. 241 00:18:17,156 --> 00:18:20,576 It's crazy, I'm not afraid to have a blast when I have a rope. 242 00:18:21,396 --> 00:18:22,536 And then, I fall apart. 243 00:18:24,044 --> 00:18:26,604 Extreme. I'm going to put on some music now. 244 00:18:26,684 --> 00:18:30,444 A little music, guys? We're gonna crank up the volume. 245 00:18:30,644 --> 00:18:34,364 Okay, that's it. Okay, that's good. Now, this time, I'm going to keep going. 246 00:18:34,804 --> 00:18:46,704 Not 247 00:18:46,784 --> 00:18:47,384 Seriously, there 248 00:18:48,904 --> 00:18:52,224 You gave me a flashback. I can hear the pulse in my ear. 249 00:18:53,264 --> 00:18:54,044 Everything about you, right here. 250 00:19:00,784 --> 00:19:04,384 If a very small percentage of people who come here have attitudes that do not 251 00:19:04,464 --> 00:19:08,054 They're not civic-minded; in the end, what they're doing is staining everything 252 00:19:08,124 --> 00:19:09,683 the image of the entire collective that is coming. 253 00:19:16,104 --> 00:19:18,924 One thing is for sure, I'm not here to moralize. 254 00:19:19,724 --> 00:19:21,764 I've done everything I shouldn't have done. 255 00:19:21,804 --> 00:19:23,804 And there are still many things I do wrong. 256 00:19:24,764 --> 00:19:27,484 I need to go to the bathroom, please. 257 00:19:28,204 --> 00:19:29,844 I'm going to shit myself. 258 00:19:30,844 --> 00:19:32,784 Oh, they're everywhere! 259 00:19:41,604 --> 00:19:45,164 I've done everything I shouldn't have done. Guys, I've found the solution. 260 00:19:45,304 --> 00:19:47,424 What you need to do is grab the "poop air" sign. 261 00:19:47,624 --> 00:19:50,084 That way, when you have your private shitty look, you put up your sign. 262 00:19:50,544 --> 00:19:52,004 And this is your part. 263 00:19:55,924 --> 00:19:58,664 Let me use your tub, it's a rest. 264 00:19:58,744 --> 00:20:00,264 I have no resistance. 265 00:20:12,804 --> 00:20:15,404 I've done everything I shouldn't have done. 266 00:20:15,824 --> 00:20:18,484 I think I forgot a line. I'd like to draw another little one. 267 00:20:19,544 --> 00:20:20,564 For fun. 268 00:20:23,204 --> 00:20:26,884 We've gotten into the habit of using plenty of chalk. 269 00:20:27,124 --> 00:20:29,064 And in the Fontainebleau forest, that is not acceptable. 270 00:20:31,624 --> 00:20:32,164 I did it. 271 00:20:36,754 --> 00:20:40,014 Oh, that's still hot! 272 00:20:40,204 --> 00:20:41,854 Then the fences, he 273 00:20:43,224 --> 00:20:44,304 I have occasionally pulled on the maggots. 274 00:20:44,404 --> 00:20:46,974 After that, the cows got away from me, I had to chase after them. 275 00:20:47,164 --> 00:20:48,204 Are the cows alright? 276 00:20:49,204 --> 00:20:50,244 A bit unfriendly. 277 00:20:52,384 --> 00:20:53,544 Everything you shouldn't do, 278 00:20:54,724 --> 00:20:55,264 I did it. 279 00:20:59,124 --> 00:21:01,304 What I really love is barbecues. 280 00:21:02,144 --> 00:21:04,544 Chips, atomic bombs, sausages. 281 00:21:05,704 --> 00:21:09,164 There are people who are used to being able to make a fire in their country without holding 282 00:21:09,344 --> 00:21:11,904 taking into account that we are in a Mediterranean location, what to do 283 00:21:12,024 --> 00:21:15,634 A fire that may seem harmless can ultimately lead to a major disaster. 284 00:21:15,704 --> 00:21:16,264 fire. 285 00:21:20,664 --> 00:21:23,624 In Spain, firefighters continue to fight 286 00:21:23,704 --> 00:21:27,524 against fires 287 00:21:27,544 --> 00:21:29,734 of the forest. 288 00:21:35,544 --> 00:21:38,204 I did it before, yes. That's true. 289 00:21:39,904 --> 00:21:41,624 Before, I did everything I shouldn't have done. 290 00:21:46,324 --> 00:21:50,064 Meschia, after the initial discovery and phase of enthusiasm, 291 00:21:50,244 --> 00:21:53,684 So many people were arriving, more and more each year 292 00:21:53,824 --> 00:21:57,234 year, until one day the owner decided to put an end to it 293 00:21:57,604 --> 00:22:01,414 to free access to this place, because Meschia is located on a 294 00:22:01,464 --> 00:22:05,004 private property with chestnut groves that give life to the 295 00:22:05,024 --> 00:22:05,704 owner. 296 00:22:06,524 --> 00:22:07,524 10 people per day, 297 00:22:08,464 --> 00:22:12,304 That's alright. If you put 100 people a day here walking, 298 00:22:13,024 --> 00:22:14,404 It's all over. 299 00:22:14,424 --> 00:22:18,074 The climbers did nothing more than flock to it. 300 00:22:18,384 --> 00:22:22,354 and go to the toilet everywhere. Sometimes they stole chestnuts, 301 00:22:22,444 --> 00:22:25,764 Sometimes they made a mess. And that thing put an end to it. 302 00:22:25,864 --> 00:22:28,284 free climbing in Meschia. 303 00:22:35,644 --> 00:22:35,964 THE 304 00:22:36,964 --> 00:22:40,954 relationships with the owners, sharing outdoor spaces with others 305 00:22:41,344 --> 00:22:44,774 users, stricter regulations for the areas 306 00:22:44,774 --> 00:22:48,224 protected natural areas in order to protect the flora and fauna 307 00:22:49,284 --> 00:22:53,264 local issues, the return of land to indigenous populations, problems of 308 00:22:53,274 --> 00:22:55,824 parking, political issues, and bad attitudes. 309 00:22:55,984 --> 00:22:59,774 Little by little, the number of climbing areas 310 00:22:59,824 --> 00:23:01,364 impacted by regulations or 311 00:23:02,284 --> 00:23:03,624 of the 312 00:23:04,684 --> 00:23:07,754 closures have increased considerably in the 313 00:23:07,754 --> 00:23:13,084 world. 314 00:23:21,464 --> 00:23:24,464 My skill level varied greatly during those years. 315 00:23:24,504 --> 00:23:28,484 I did my first 6a at age 8. Whereas at 316 00:23:28,664 --> 00:23:30,044 At 9 years old, for example, I did my first 8b. 317 00:23:31,464 --> 00:23:33,944 Now I'm 14 years old and I've already done 9a. 318 00:23:40,464 --> 00:23:44,344 It's certain that route 10a will be possible one day if there isn't a ban beforehand. 319 00:23:44,404 --> 00:23:46,224 of climbing a cliff that is being set up. 320 00:23:49,744 --> 00:23:53,404 The future is open, it will be 321 00:23:53,484 --> 00:23:57,084 created by us and the ideas that will 322 00:23:57,184 --> 00:24:00,904 solutions that will emerge are yet to be invented. 323 00:24:04,524 --> 00:24:06,924 In fact, climbing is at the cutting edge 324 00:24:07,844 --> 00:24:11,304 of this upheaval in the relationship with nature 325 00:24:12,084 --> 00:24:13,444 which concerns all of humanity. 326 00:24:15,804 --> 00:24:16,063 THE 327 00:24:16,084 --> 00:24:20,854 things 328 00:24:20,854 --> 00:24:21,274 have evolved considerably over the years 329 00:24:23,104 --> 00:24:26,324 The last 30, 40 years and the escalation 330 00:24:26,334 --> 00:24:30,254 has transformed into a culture of 331 00:24:30,254 --> 00:24:34,184 consommation.It's not just that we have things to talk 332 00:24:34,224 --> 00:24:36,424 about in climbing. We have things to talk about society. 333 00:24:36,624 --> 00:24:39,604 We have things to talk about humans. Therefore, no one is innocent. 334 00:24:39,644 --> 00:24:43,064 We are all residents. We are all responsible in a certain way. 335 00:24:46,624 --> 00:24:49,424 Everyone looks at their own navel and everyone looks at their own goal. 336 00:24:49,604 --> 00:24:53,444 That selfishness in society. And I think we're losing ourselves in it, because 337 00:24:53,544 --> 00:24:55,084 They all have a justification. 338 00:24:57,064 --> 00:25:00,244 But the worst part is that if you do that, it might get banned. 339 00:25:01,804 --> 00:25:03,664 The climber is the one who loses. 340 00:25:14,064 --> 00:25:17,404 All sports practices are at a point of stress, outdoors. 341 00:25:18,524 --> 00:25:21,724 Mountain biking, trail running, hiking, 342 00:25:22,924 --> 00:25:23,843 mountaineering. 343 00:25:25,424 --> 00:25:28,764 There is a behavioral tendency to go where everyone else goes. 344 00:25:28,964 --> 00:25:32,844 When one summit is overcrowded, there are five surrounding summits that remain unused. 345 00:25:32,904 --> 00:25:34,784 But the one that's fashionable is the one everyone's in. 346 00:25:36,124 --> 00:25:40,044 So, regarding the issue of people who are well-known, who practice, I think that 347 00:25:40,104 --> 00:25:41,504 They begin to call themselves ambassadors. 348 00:25:49,024 --> 00:25:49,684 Today there is a 349 00:25:50,624 --> 00:25:54,244 frenetic use of social networks which increasingly accelerates the 350 00:25:54,304 --> 00:25:57,424 frequenting the most beautiful places around. 351 00:26:18,484 --> 00:26:22,364 And then the increasingly frenetic and continuous production of climbing guides, which 352 00:26:22,384 --> 00:26:25,404 They make it easier for anyone to access any place. 353 00:26:25,434 --> 00:26:28,984 It's a bit of a vicious circle: the more advertising you do, 354 00:26:29,504 --> 00:26:32,804 the stronger you are, the more visible you are and today everyone sees you, so 355 00:26:32,904 --> 00:26:36,624 everything becomes much more famous and all the people 356 00:26:36,664 --> 00:26:40,244 they are ready to go and experience that kind of life too 357 00:26:40,264 --> 00:26:43,263 experience in these places. 358 00:26:45,524 --> 00:26:49,304 Since climbing has become so modern, I think all athletes 359 00:26:49,324 --> 00:26:51,824 start to wonder: "What can I post? 360 00:26:51,964 --> 00:26:54,094 Is it okay to show that I'm in the Calanques? 361 00:26:54,124 --> 00:26:56,874 Won't everyone come to climb outside afterwards? 362 00:26:58,064 --> 00:27:01,664 "So, our behavior must be more than responsible, we must be 363 00:27:01,724 --> 00:27:02,864 copy. 364 00:27:05,124 --> 00:27:08,424 Encouraging the practice of outdoor sports on social media, for example, 365 00:27:09,204 --> 00:27:13,044 Yes, but the whole question is in what practice, how do we 366 00:27:13,084 --> 00:27:13,584 practical ? 367 00:27:14,484 --> 00:27:18,344 Are we focusing on the 25 meters of the 368 00:27:18,424 --> 00:27:22,224 route and on the sequence, etc., and on the problems of 369 00:27:22,284 --> 00:27:25,804 skin of gentleman's little finger or of 370 00:27:25,864 --> 00:27:29,784 Madam? Or are we focusing on which one is 371 00:27:29,804 --> 00:27:31,264 the history of this place 372 00:27:32,084 --> 00:27:35,664 What species live there? What local people live there? 373 00:27:35,704 --> 00:27:37,664 How do people live there? How do you get there? 374 00:27:37,704 --> 00:27:40,744 How can we approach this in a respectful manner? 375 00:27:40,784 --> 00:27:41,324 Machine. 376 00:27:43,084 --> 00:27:45,664 I will never be able to do what you do. 377 00:27:48,204 --> 00:27:51,893 In fact, the problem isn't talking about it, it's how we talk about it. 378 00:27:51,924 --> 00:27:54,264 And what are the stories that are put on social media? 379 00:28:00,404 --> 00:28:02,604 This is not overcrowding in 100% of sectors. 380 00:28:03,684 --> 00:28:06,844 It is in 10% of sectors where, yes, there is overcrowding. 381 00:28:06,944 --> 00:28:10,244 And there are lots of small cliffs completely 382 00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:12,724 Set aside. It's also a matter of fashion. 383 00:28:12,824 --> 00:28:13,704 And the networks, they're there. 384 00:28:14,864 --> 00:28:17,284 They are fully contributing to this overcrowding. 385 00:28:26,824 --> 00:28:29,484 I think that in the end it's not a problem of numbers. 386 00:28:29,544 --> 00:28:33,344 Ultimately, it's a behavioral problem, since a very large number can come. 387 00:28:33,404 --> 00:28:37,214 of people who have exemplary behavior and not even finding out, what's more, contributing 388 00:28:37,244 --> 00:28:40,384 many positive things for the town, both for the local economy and for the 389 00:28:40,444 --> 00:28:41,204 people who live in it. 390 00:28:43,744 --> 00:28:47,464 Since the 2000s, there has been this kind of idea of ​​outdoor sport 391 00:28:47,484 --> 00:28:51,224 where "the earth is our playground". 392 00:28:51,284 --> 00:28:55,164 Outdoor playground. But no, we're not the ones who are going to 393 00:28:55,664 --> 00:28:59,564 in the mountains or on cliffs or on trails to set our Strava records or 394 00:28:59,824 --> 00:29:01,844 To string together our performances. No. 395 00:29:05,484 --> 00:29:08,164 Typically, what is Bioux molasse? 396 00:29:08,384 --> 00:29:11,204 These are sediments from living things that lived 20 million years ago. 397 00:29:11,964 --> 00:29:15,594 And every time we travel a meter, we go back in the geological history of the Earth and 398 00:29:15,784 --> 00:29:18,944 In fact, we're climbing on living things, but just very old ones. 399 00:29:22,304 --> 00:29:25,764 It might seem very poetic or very far-fetched, I don't know, 400 00:29:25,864 --> 00:29:27,404 but in fact, it's 401 00:29:28,244 --> 00:29:32,084 all these little changes in attitude that make you... 402 00:29:32,124 --> 00:29:33,044 behave differently. 403 00:29:44,424 --> 00:29:45,584 Okay guys, I've recorded some sound. 404 00:29:47,484 --> 00:29:50,944 Let's have some fun, because when I climb, I need 405 00:29:51,524 --> 00:29:52,284 the potatoes. 406 00:29:53,564 --> 00:29:56,384 And sorry, I'm still really deaf. 407 00:29:56,924 --> 00:30:00,804 That's nothing new. So, I still turn the sound up high, I put on a 408 00:30:00,844 --> 00:30:01,924 something that rocks. 409 00:30:55,054 --> 00:30:58,254 Last year, the pair of eagle owls settled in an area. 410 00:31:02,034 --> 00:31:06,014 And to create and implement a bubble of tranquility to allow 411 00:31:06,074 --> 00:31:09,834 It seemed that this couple would be able to settle down and successfully reproduce. 412 00:31:09,894 --> 00:31:10,834 to be relevant. 413 00:31:12,114 --> 00:31:15,393 Therefore, there is a major issue on cliffs due to the presence of these species. 414 00:31:15,474 --> 00:31:16,434 protected rock art. 415 00:31:17,654 --> 00:31:21,494 So it was a joint decision that was indeed successful. 416 00:31:21,574 --> 00:31:25,534 to a closure and I find that it is exactly 417 00:31:25,614 --> 00:31:29,044 the model that needs to be continued to be worked on at other sites 418 00:31:29,094 --> 00:31:33,074 possibly those who would be affected by excessively intense activity 419 00:31:33,114 --> 00:31:34,794 all these outdoor activities. 420 00:31:40,874 --> 00:31:44,674 The challenge is to succeed in protecting this space while maintaining these 421 00:31:44,734 --> 00:31:45,194 uses-there. 422 00:31:46,994 --> 00:31:48,734 And also to bring about acceptance 423 00:31:49,674 --> 00:31:53,394 among outdoor sports enthusiasts, and not just those involved in climbing, 424 00:31:53,454 --> 00:31:55,074 but even the average hiker. 425 00:32:00,454 --> 00:32:03,974 The end of the 20th century led to an approach to nature that was 426 00:32:03,984 --> 00:32:07,074 very free and that today, we must 427 00:32:07,134 --> 00:32:10,904 to re-examine without placing absolute freedom at the center of the debates 428 00:32:10,934 --> 00:32:12,094 man in that nature. 429 00:32:20,754 --> 00:32:23,904 Adjusting this freedom so that the impact is 430 00:32:24,074 --> 00:32:27,824 less in relation to nature, because we have this awareness and this capacity to 431 00:32:27,854 --> 00:32:29,074 be aware of that. 432 00:32:33,394 --> 00:32:37,074 If we want to find solutions, we must not think like a 433 00:32:37,094 --> 00:32:37,794 individual, but 434 00:32:38,634 --> 00:32:42,064 like a community. We probably need to think with the 435 00:32:42,094 --> 00:32:45,404 local climbers, with the population, with the 436 00:32:45,514 --> 00:32:47,514 naturalists, along with those who manage the territory. 437 00:32:47,814 --> 00:32:51,333 We need to create teams where there are different perspectives. 438 00:32:51,374 --> 00:32:54,484 It's not just those who want to climb. 439 00:32:54,814 --> 00:32:57,284 We really need to seek a dialogue. 440 00:32:58,594 --> 00:33:01,614 so that we can find concrete solutions. 441 00:33:15,774 --> 00:33:18,954 In the field, federations, land managers, 442 00:33:19,174 --> 00:33:22,994 non-profits and NGOs, state and national parks have now 443 00:33:23,054 --> 00:33:26,974 come up with well-adapted solutions to better managing climbing areas. 444 00:33:30,334 --> 00:33:31,903 This can include paid parking, 445 00:33:33,114 --> 00:33:35,064 designated campsites and parking lots, 446 00:33:36,154 --> 00:33:37,514 cooperation with landowners, 447 00:33:38,574 --> 00:33:40,514 waste management, signage, 448 00:33:41,354 --> 00:33:42,234 building awareness, 449 00:33:43,274 --> 00:33:47,234 and closures during fire season or during nesting seasons for 450 00:33:47,334 --> 00:33:50,034 birds of prey and other endangered species. 451 00:33:56,814 --> 00:34:00,714 Certain overly popular areas, such as Yosemite National Park 452 00:34:00,754 --> 00:34:04,334 in California and Waco Tanks State Park in Texas, 453 00:34:05,154 --> 00:34:08,435 set up quota systems to limit the number of visitors per day, 454 00:34:09,214 --> 00:34:13,034 and in some cases, require hiring an official guide to 455 00:34:13,074 --> 00:34:14,114 go climbing in the park. 456 00:34:16,394 --> 00:34:20,314 This method of regulating the number of climbers could one day 457 00:34:20,354 --> 00:34:23,044 be applied to certain popular climbing areas in Europe. 458 00:34:29,094 --> 00:34:32,725 But as outdoor climbing areas go through these natural growing pangs, 459 00:34:33,354 --> 00:34:37,274 indoor climbing and bouldering gyms continue to increase in popularity 460 00:34:37,455 --> 00:34:41,334 at a breakneck pace. Every week, a new climbing structure is 461 00:34:41,394 --> 00:34:42,834 built somewhere in the world. 462 00:34:43,574 --> 00:34:44,975 The future of climbing. 463 00:34:45,854 --> 00:34:47,294 The real climbing will begin. 464 00:34:49,734 --> 00:34:52,534 This is the future of climbing. 465 00:34:54,714 --> 00:34:56,894 Now young people have become too stylish. 466 00:34:56,935 --> 00:34:59,473 They remain the best, as if you had distilled them. 467 00:34:59,674 --> 00:35:02,134 We're no longer from the Catherine Destivelle generation. 468 00:35:02,194 --> 00:35:05,474 We want to climb to some heavy sound with maximum decibels. 469 00:35:05,514 --> 00:35:09,434 And if one day the cliffs overflow, we can always count on the kilter. 470 00:35:09,474 --> 00:35:12,394 board. One thousand eight at full speed on a three square meter space. 471 00:35:12,474 --> 00:35:14,734 That's more than full capacity on a thousand hectares of forest. 472 00:35:15,014 --> 00:35:17,454 No more pros overpaying to keep their sponsors. 473 00:35:17,514 --> 00:35:19,954 To make a living from climbing, there's no choice, you'll have to be strong. 474 00:35:20,814 --> 00:35:22,214 The real climbing will begin. 475 00:35:25,274 --> 00:35:28,334 There's something extraordinary about wall climbing, 476 00:35:29,374 --> 00:35:31,194 It's because we are the ones who create the movements. 477 00:35:32,214 --> 00:35:36,074 There, there is a certain gestural quality, a creativity, 478 00:35:36,914 --> 00:35:40,774 a world that trailblazers exploit 479 00:35:40,814 --> 00:35:44,434 and that when we go to the theaters, we have an experience of it 480 00:35:44,454 --> 00:35:44,914 direct. 481 00:35:49,574 --> 00:35:51,814 There is a creative side to it that is limitless. 482 00:35:53,054 --> 00:35:54,694 It's a musical score, it's a painting. 483 00:35:55,594 --> 00:35:59,113 With one stand and three sockets, you can create millions of movements. 484 00:35:59,994 --> 00:36:00,113 They 485 00:36:17,454 --> 00:36:21,384 Those guys are crazy. Did you see how heavily fortified it is? 486 00:36:21,434 --> 00:36:25,053 Back then, people used to go to the mountains. What would they say now, Ribuffa? 487 00:36:25,194 --> 00:36:29,134 Look, you've piled them all on top of the other one there, making slippery plastic. 488 00:36:32,514 --> 00:36:34,814 A climbing gym is a bit like a fitness center. 489 00:36:35,414 --> 00:36:37,554 Ultimately, it's a relatively expensive subscription. 490 00:36:37,594 --> 00:36:40,414 So, we are necessarily in a segment of the population that has the means to 491 00:36:40,454 --> 00:36:41,654 pay for a gym membership. 492 00:36:45,130 --> 00:36:48,770 I like climbing because it's a good combination of mental and 493 00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:52,610 physical exercise, and there's definitely that social aspect 494 00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:56,250 too. So it's a good combination of all the things that I love, 495 00:36:56,350 --> 00:36:59,530 and it keeps you healthy, keeps you strong. 496 00:37:01,490 --> 00:37:03,740 I fought through way too much on this lonely road. 497 00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:06,910 I lost blood, not their tears, but I won't lose my soul. 498 00:37:10,190 --> 00:37:14,030 What's interesting about indoor climbing is its ephemeral nature. 499 00:37:15,610 --> 00:37:19,090 because it allows one to work towards a certain form of detachment. 500 00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:21,690 This is the new generation. 501 00:37:24,850 --> 00:37:28,150 When you've been trying a boulder problem in the gym or a route in the... for 15 days 502 00:37:28,190 --> 00:37:28,510 room 503 00:37:29,370 --> 00:37:32,350 and you can't do it and then you arrive, they've changed the lanes. 504 00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:35,170 Something is happening. 505 00:37:36,010 --> 00:37:37,430 And that's interesting too. 506 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,950 What we want to propose, 507 00:37:56,330 --> 00:37:59,850 It's an escalation that stimulates both intelligence, 508 00:38:04,190 --> 00:38:06,230 both the gestures 509 00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:09,930 and at the same time, aesthetics. 510 00:38:11,710 --> 00:38:13,450 We want our buildings to be beautiful to look at. 511 00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:16,630 We want our bouldering problems to be interesting to climb. 512 00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:24,300 And we want our blocks to be intellectually complex to 513 00:38:24,330 --> 00:38:24,830 decipher. 514 00:38:31,460 --> 00:38:34,650 Climbing is trying to find its place among all the other sports. 515 00:38:34,970 --> 00:38:38,810 So, we had to imagine new movements, something that would be 516 00:38:38,830 --> 00:38:41,730 Highly visual, something that makes you want to go, something spectacular. 517 00:38:44,190 --> 00:38:47,530 Ultimately, I think this might be the place for climbing. 518 00:38:47,970 --> 00:38:48,570 modern. 519 00:39:03,610 --> 00:39:07,270 It's been interesting for me to discover is when I come to a climbing gym, 520 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:11,570 I'm not thinking about some big achievement. 521 00:39:12,010 --> 00:39:14,310 I'm not trying to climb La Dura Dura, 522 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:18,690 or I'm not trying to climb Biographie, 523 00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:21,320 or Espantas, 524 00:39:23,630 --> 00:39:27,460 or something that is important. It's more just enjoying the 525 00:39:27,530 --> 00:39:28,350 movement of climbing. 526 00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:43,010 In this way, 527 00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:47,450 I found that I have some very pure climbing 528 00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:51,470 experiences, even sometimes the most pure when I'm in the climbing 529 00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:55,290 gym because I'm just in the moment enjoying 530 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:57,850 this connection with my body moving. 531 00:39:59,470 --> 00:40:02,510 And it's not connected to my ego so much. 532 00:40:03,490 --> 00:40:07,200 So I think it's really interesting because for so many years, I only 533 00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:10,870 promoted outdoor climbing as the pure way. 534 00:40:11,650 --> 00:40:15,210 And in fact, it's even possible to have a more pure 535 00:40:15,250 --> 00:40:17,090 experience somehow indoors. 536 00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:21,490 And so I think it's an interesting paradox, I guess. 537 00:40:26,730 --> 00:40:30,230 The incredible success of indoor climbing gyms has led to an 538 00:40:30,290 --> 00:40:32,150 exponential increase in their numbers. 539 00:40:32,850 --> 00:40:36,460 Today, there are an estimated 30 million gym climbers around the 540 00:40:36,530 --> 00:40:36,850 world. 541 00:40:38,450 --> 00:40:40,110 This boom means more holds, 542 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:44,010 more smartphone apps, more wall structures, 543 00:40:45,250 --> 00:40:49,120 and even integrating artificial intelligence into the route-setting process. 544 00:40:50,570 --> 00:40:53,790 Indoor climbing gyms have now become the largest segment of the climbing 545 00:40:53,850 --> 00:40:54,690 industry. 546 00:40:55,730 --> 00:40:58,910 Long gone are the days of the simple basement training wall. 547 00:40:59,390 --> 00:41:03,170 Modern private gyms offer a wide range of services far beyond 548 00:41:03,290 --> 00:41:04,210 just climbing. 549 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:10,010 This is typically the ability to create places 550 00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:14,810 where we will practice a sport. And by practicing this sport, we create 551 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:18,610 of social connection. And we will continue to spread this social connection throughout the rest of 552 00:41:18,650 --> 00:41:21,150 the room with, in quotation marks, the related services. 553 00:41:24,730 --> 00:41:27,150 You can enjoy a meal or a drink after your session, 554 00:41:28,090 --> 00:41:31,960 take a yoga or a weightlifting class, relax in the sauna, or 555 00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:33,610 even use co-working spaces. 556 00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:38,710 Gyms feature dedicated play areas for kids, film screenings, 557 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,530 and other evening events, offering a whole new take on the 558 00:41:42,590 --> 00:41:44,790 traditional climbing gym experience. 559 00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:52,130 Two, one, go! 560 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:53,810 Skinny. 561 00:41:54,010 --> 00:41:56,230 Yes, but I'm not going up there to attack my base. 562 00:41:56,670 --> 00:41:59,470 Yes, I do the chicane too. Come on. 563 00:41:59,950 --> 00:42:00,270 Three, 564 00:42:01,070 --> 00:42:02,230 Two. Okay. 565 00:42:04,310 --> 00:42:06,170 Okay, that's it. Look. 566 00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:08,050 Very good. 567 00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:23,910 I think majority of the people that come to our gyms or that go to 568 00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:25,070 most gyms, it's like 569 00:42:26,450 --> 00:42:29,110 they're not going to become rock climbers. 570 00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:36,710 And I can see it for myself, too. The amount of effort 571 00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:40,650 and time that I need to go rock climbing to try my project in Oliana, 572 00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:43,270 I have to spend all day to drive two hours 573 00:42:45,170 --> 00:42:48,956 to make two tries.And then to drive two 574 00:42:49,006 --> 00:42:50,806 hours back, I get home super late. 575 00:42:53,006 --> 00:42:56,526 Compared to the convenience of coming to a climbing gym, I can come 576 00:42:56,586 --> 00:43:00,276 here and in two hours I can climb so much. 577 00:43:01,706 --> 00:43:05,636 It really fits into my lifestyle with my family and everything so much 578 00:43:05,666 --> 00:43:07,346 easier. 579 00:43:25,406 --> 00:43:28,966 We must reflect on the fact that life is at the 580 00:43:29,046 --> 00:43:30,266 border between worlds. 581 00:43:32,326 --> 00:43:35,766 There is the natural world, and there is the artificial world. 582 00:43:36,726 --> 00:43:40,166 We always live between the two. It's a construct 583 00:43:40,286 --> 00:43:42,906 mental and cultural. We are nature 584 00:43:43,946 --> 00:43:45,646 And we are artificial. 585 00:43:47,546 --> 00:43:50,886 But what's interesting is seeing the conversations between the two. 586 00:43:51,606 --> 00:43:55,546 What are the links between the climbing we are going to 587 00:43:55,606 --> 00:43:58,446 artificial and natural climbing 588 00:43:59,486 --> 00:43:59,986 ? 589 00:44:00,606 --> 00:44:03,896 But you cannot put people all in the same box all the 590 00:44:03,926 --> 00:44:07,896 time. When it comes to saying climbing is climbing, climbers are 591 00:44:07,906 --> 00:44:11,546 climbers, indoor climbers are outdoor climbers, it doesn't 592 00:44:11,566 --> 00:44:12,706 exactly all align. 593 00:44:13,546 --> 00:44:16,166 As I said, it's not linear. It's multidimensional. 594 00:44:16,706 --> 00:44:20,046 These are things that are very three-dimensional. 595 00:44:29,766 --> 00:44:32,326 It's climbing, but they are very different things. 596 00:44:33,926 --> 00:44:35,006 There's swimming in a pool, 597 00:44:35,826 --> 00:44:36,986 and there's swimming in the ocean. 598 00:44:37,726 --> 00:44:39,786 Then there's swimming in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. 599 00:44:41,706 --> 00:44:44,146 There's swimming in a lake, there's swimming in a river, 600 00:44:45,066 --> 00:44:46,266 there's swimming in a pool inside. 601 00:44:47,546 --> 00:44:48,826 There are many forms of swimming. 602 00:44:50,006 --> 00:44:51,186 There are many forms of climbing. 603 00:44:58,445 --> 00:45:02,426 Indoor will definitely be a big part 604 00:45:02,466 --> 00:45:05,466 of the future of climbing because nature will not be ready for it 605 00:45:05,526 --> 00:45:09,086 to accommodate ever-increasing masses of climbers. 606 00:45:09,126 --> 00:45:12,826 So surely big investors will build big temples for 607 00:45:12,866 --> 00:45:16,426 climbing and entertaining people. 608 00:45:20,346 --> 00:45:24,146 Of course, there will be a change happening in the next decades 609 00:45:24,206 --> 00:45:27,916 because virtually everything has been climbed already. 610 00:45:30,926 --> 00:45:33,066 There's not so much left to explore. 611 00:45:33,166 --> 00:45:37,086 So in my point of view, climbing will be as 612 00:45:37,126 --> 00:45:40,806 an activity more centered about indoor 613 00:45:40,906 --> 00:45:41,946 climbing in the future. 614 00:45:43,786 --> 00:45:47,306 There will be still a lot of outdoor activity, but 615 00:45:47,366 --> 00:45:49,175 less pioneering-wise, 616 00:45:50,386 --> 00:45:54,046 but more like go out there, go to the 617 00:45:54,086 --> 00:45:56,926 climbs and just have a nice day. 618 00:46:09,926 --> 00:46:12,406 I already love being outside, in nature. 619 00:46:13,386 --> 00:46:15,626 I like the freedom one can have. 620 00:46:19,646 --> 00:46:22,986 There are so many paths to explore that are historical or involve gestures 621 00:46:23,126 --> 00:46:25,446 specific, magnificent, with a frame, etc. 622 00:46:26,806 --> 00:46:30,386 Before thinking about the huge performance or the path of the 623 00:46:30,446 --> 00:46:34,326 future, already climbing everything around us a little bit, 624 00:46:36,086 --> 00:46:37,086 That could be a great goal. 625 00:46:54,746 --> 00:46:56,006 If climbing is my profession, 626 00:46:57,826 --> 00:47:00,226 That means I spend a lot of time climbing and training. 627 00:47:02,206 --> 00:47:03,526 And so all my energy, 628 00:47:04,546 --> 00:47:08,365 Professionally, too, she goes in one direction and at the end, there is my 629 00:47:08,375 --> 00:47:09,146 navel. 630 00:47:11,046 --> 00:47:14,366 And so, for me, that was fundamentally problematic because I think that by 631 00:47:14,426 --> 00:47:16,746 Our work requires us to contribute something to the world. 632 00:47:22,266 --> 00:47:24,366 There comes a point where we need to redefine performance. 633 00:47:26,286 --> 00:47:28,666 That means what has value 634 00:47:29,866 --> 00:47:32,426 What can the community value? 635 00:47:34,126 --> 00:47:36,446 to help us grow as climbers 636 00:47:37,866 --> 00:47:38,366 ? 637 00:47:39,526 --> 00:47:42,156 Today, I'm going to do a 9a 638 00:47:43,006 --> 00:47:45,856 or an 8c, if every time I have to try the route, I have to do 80 639 00:47:45,886 --> 00:47:48,206 Personally, I'm not interested in driving kilometers. 640 00:47:50,746 --> 00:47:52,546 That's not what makes sense today. 641 00:47:54,146 --> 00:47:57,346 The value is there, it's in the meaning, in the coherence and above all 642 00:47:58,166 --> 00:48:00,566 in the experience and in the embodiment of what I say. 643 00:48:01,886 --> 00:48:03,986 For me, from the moment I live what I say, 644 00:48:07,166 --> 00:48:09,906 No one can take that away from me, because I lived it. 645 00:48:10,375 --> 00:48:14,346 When I experience cycling from Saint-Léger to Bioux, it... 646 00:48:14,386 --> 00:48:17,066 takes 5 hours instead of 1 hour 30 minutes by car. 647 00:48:18,326 --> 00:48:19,026 but in fact, 648 00:48:20,426 --> 00:48:24,166 I see a number of wonderful things that I have 649 00:48:24,246 --> 00:48:26,666 I want to defend it and I want to be a part of it. 650 00:48:28,246 --> 00:48:31,546 It's so real, since I'm experiencing it myself. 651 00:48:31,586 --> 00:48:35,406 No matter how much people tell me, "Yes, but it's your bus," I know it works. 652 00:48:37,066 --> 00:48:38,526 I know that this is what fulfills me more. 653 00:48:39,446 --> 00:48:41,886 And I think it's not just because I'm an alien. 654 00:48:44,806 --> 00:48:48,206 But if doing what we love destroys what allows us to do it, 655 00:48:49,526 --> 00:48:50,146 It's going nowhere. 656 00:48:58,296 --> 00:49:01,376 What you're doing is great, Eline, but I can't manage the bike. 657 00:49:03,296 --> 00:49:04,636 I can't do it, it's just too hard. 658 00:49:06,296 --> 00:49:10,026 Honestly, Eline, for me, either I go to the gym, or I quit. 659 00:49:10,056 --> 00:49:13,596 Rock climbing. It burns my legs, my bags, everything. 660 00:49:14,916 --> 00:49:16,556 But what you're doing is really good. 661 00:49:18,096 --> 00:49:19,436 But I think I'm too old. 662 00:49:20,616 --> 00:49:22,875 Exactly, that's it. 663 00:49:23,976 --> 00:49:26,656 Come on, Cédric. Yes, you're coming down. Great. 664 00:49:27,256 --> 00:49:30,936 Exactly. This movement is still tough. 665 00:49:31,076 --> 00:49:33,836 You really need to stay calm. 666 00:49:46,996 --> 00:49:50,836 What I dare say is that I am not perfect and 667 00:49:50,876 --> 00:49:52,056 I will never be perfect. 668 00:49:52,876 --> 00:49:56,296 But I'm trying. And for me, 669 00:49:57,076 --> 00:50:00,736 In the future, we must all try to do 670 00:50:00,776 --> 00:50:03,256 It's good for it to work, quite simply. 671 00:50:03,275 --> 00:50:07,196 We just need to become aware of our actions, and that alone is enough. 672 00:50:07,256 --> 00:50:11,136 will be a big step. I'm just saying to listen to everything 673 00:50:11,216 --> 00:50:11,436 That, 674 00:50:12,396 --> 00:50:16,356 to realize that our actions have great importance. 675 00:50:16,776 --> 00:50:20,676 If everyone thinks about it, try it a little, things will change. 676 00:50:21,116 --> 00:50:22,296 This is going to change drastically. 677 00:50:42,656 --> 00:50:45,196 Right, I cross to the left, I turn right again. 678 00:50:47,216 --> 00:50:48,516 Vinegar water, diluted. 679 00:50:53,076 --> 00:50:54,795 Luckily I have a real brush. 680 00:50:59,116 --> 00:50:59,956 She's a mass, there. 681 00:51:01,556 --> 00:51:02,256 Disgusting. 682 00:51:03,756 --> 00:51:07,626 That's great. What's really great about Spain is 683 00:51:07,636 --> 00:51:11,476 that they make poop areas. I love Spain for the 684 00:51:11,496 --> 00:51:15,156 Private poop areas. But it's your private toilet. 685 00:51:16,556 --> 00:51:20,216 It's driving me crazy. I've done this scene 50 times, I can't do it, my battery's dead. 686 00:51:20,356 --> 00:51:22,976 I tried it every which way. So, the only solution, 687 00:51:24,316 --> 00:51:25,396 I'm taking the sign with me. 688 00:51:26,436 --> 00:51:28,736 With algorithms, the codes will be organized. 689 00:51:28,796 --> 00:51:31,216 There will be no more smoke and mirrors to make you believe you've made progress. 690 00:51:31,556 --> 00:51:35,296 Finally, in the gyms, we'll be able to have cool blocks and we'll never again have 691 00:51:35,305 --> 00:51:38,956 Steps that don't work. No more sharp, arched steps, no more freezing afternoons. 692 00:51:38,976 --> 00:51:42,076 the rush, the wobbly holds, the old belays on bolts, the holds 693 00:51:42,096 --> 00:51:45,436 polished surfaces and routes where you can't see the summit, challenging moves, the 694 00:51:45,456 --> 00:51:48,636 stones that can knock you out, the weird eliminations, the paths that make 695 00:51:48,736 --> 00:51:52,426 The crossing, the annoying locals and the bitter cold that gives you frostbite, the stairs 696 00:51:52,456 --> 00:51:55,846 endless approaches, air travel, conditions, ratings, the 697 00:51:55,916 --> 00:51:58,056 conventions will soon be a thing of the past if we hold firm. 698 00:51:59,736 --> 00:52:01,156 The real climbing would begin.55334

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