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Support your local PBS 2 00:00:13,410 --> 00:00:15,710 She was our most infamous queen. 3 00:00:19,210 --> 00:00:26,030 The second wife of Henry VIII, tried on his orders for crimes of adultery 4 00:00:26,030 --> 00:00:27,030 and treason. 5 00:00:29,230 --> 00:00:34,370 Anne Boleyn was led from her rooms at the Tower of London to her death by an 6 00:00:34,370 --> 00:00:35,550 executioner's sword. 7 00:00:46,030 --> 00:00:50,850 This Tudor saga is one of the most familiar tales in English history. 8 00:00:53,230 --> 00:00:56,330 But to really understand Anne's rise and fall, 9 00:00:57,290 --> 00:01:00,170 We need to know more about those who helped shape her. 10 00:01:01,810 --> 00:01:05,710 Her tight -knit, cunning and power -hungry family. 11 00:01:08,470 --> 00:01:12,750 The Boleyns are one of the great stories in British history. It is an 12 00:01:12,750 --> 00:01:19,350 extraordinary epic of hubris and pain, the good and the bad kind of ambition. 13 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,260 Every member of the family had a part to play. 14 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,300 Thomas Boleyn, the ambitious patriarch. 15 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:34,360 George, the fearless son. 16 00:01:35,020 --> 00:01:38,700 His sisters, Mary, the reluctant mistress. 17 00:01:39,340 --> 00:01:41,880 Anne, the calculating courtier. 18 00:01:42,780 --> 00:01:45,760 And their brutal uncle, Thomas Howard. 19 00:01:47,340 --> 00:01:53,340 The Tudor public had always been used to stories of tragic falls, the stories of 20 00:01:53,340 --> 00:01:58,520 falls of kings and princes. But even they might not have imagined a fall as 21 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,660 graphic as the fall of the Boleyn family. 22 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Based on rare, original letters and documents, the Boleyns will tell this 23 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,560 from their own perspectives. 24 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,640 The court could produce no proof of my incestuous guilt. 25 00:02:15,690 --> 00:02:19,110 other than that I had spent hours in the presence of my own sister. 26 00:02:20,210 --> 00:02:22,470 I will not say your sentence, Dunjunt. 27 00:02:23,010 --> 00:02:27,930 My savior has taught me how to die, and he will strengthen my resolve. 28 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:35,190 The family played a dangerous game and paid the ultimate price. 29 00:02:37,490 --> 00:02:42,470 But they left a remarkable legacy, changing the course of British history. 30 00:02:44,330 --> 00:02:49,050 and taking their name from obscurity to the apex of power. 31 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:14,640 Henry VIII has been on the throne for 17 years. 32 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,440 The Boleyns are one of many ambitious families jostling for power at the Tudor 33 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,440 court. 34 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:30,220 Led by Thomas Boleyn, this is a dynasty on the make. 35 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,740 The Boleyns may not have begun as a family born into wealth and privilege, 36 00:03:37,740 --> 00:03:39,760 they were certainly among those who achieved it. 37 00:03:41,290 --> 00:03:46,850 By the mid -1520s, Thomas Boleyn has an impressive property portfolio of over 30 38 00:03:46,850 --> 00:03:47,850 manors. 39 00:03:48,130 --> 00:03:51,690 Some of his properties end up being some of the most beautiful in Tudor England. 40 00:03:51,790 --> 00:03:53,810 They're coveted even by Henry VIII himself. 41 00:04:00,330 --> 00:04:05,330 Thomas is a career courtier, climbing the greasy pole by exploiting the 42 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:06,990 influence of powerful patrons. 43 00:04:08,610 --> 00:04:10,030 Like his brother -in -law. 44 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Thomas Howard, the Duke of Norfolk. 45 00:04:14,060 --> 00:04:18,140 And the king's right -hand man, Cardinal Wolsey. 46 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:26,260 I think we can see from Thomas Boleyn's career up to this point that he 47 00:04:26,260 --> 00:04:31,920 is an opportunist, but he plays on his strengths, and his strengths are getting 48 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,340 on with people, charming them. 49 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,200 His children have vital roles to play. 50 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:44,110 His son George is forging his own career as a courtier. 51 00:04:45,970 --> 00:04:51,190 His daughter Mary has been the king's mistress, though Henry's interest has 52 00:04:51,190 --> 00:04:52,910 waned and she has been cast aside. 53 00:04:54,650 --> 00:04:57,550 But Anne remains a valuable asset to the family. 54 00:04:59,310 --> 00:05:01,210 Her star is on the rise. 55 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,740 she has escaped the threat of marriage to her irish cousin and her father has 56 00:05:13,740 --> 00:05:19,600 secured her the coveted position of maid of honor to queen catherine this puts 57 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,800 her in close contact not just with the queen but with the king 58 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,460 the 59 00:05:27,460 --> 00:05:32,400 tudor court is a complex web 60 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:38,770 henry sits at the center surrounded by his council of ambitious, power -hungry 61 00:05:38,770 --> 00:05:40,830 men, all jockeying for position. 62 00:05:43,390 --> 00:05:47,730 But there is another shadow court, controlled by the queen. 63 00:05:55,330 --> 00:05:58,710 The Tudor court is actually a very strange phenomenon. 64 00:05:59,210 --> 00:06:01,590 You have these two households, the king and the queen. 65 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,880 the queen's household full of her ladies in waiting it becomes a magnet for all 66 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,820 the young men of the court fueled up with romance seeking the company of 67 00:06:12,820 --> 00:06:18,960 i think to modernize we might look at this 68 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,400 sort of beauty parade slightly problematic um 69 00:06:25,210 --> 00:06:31,290 But this was a sort of standard feature of the court. Women were there to be 70 00:06:31,290 --> 00:06:32,290 admired. 71 00:06:34,650 --> 00:06:39,090 For Anne, it's an opportunity for her to mark herself out. 72 00:06:39,490 --> 00:06:45,230 We know that from her time at the French court, Anne very much embodies the 73 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:46,230 spirit of France. 74 00:06:46,490 --> 00:06:51,370 It becomes part of her identity and what made her different. 75 00:06:52,490 --> 00:06:54,790 She is bright. She is intelligent. 76 00:06:55,250 --> 00:06:56,730 She is beautiful. 77 00:06:57,910 --> 00:07:02,810 There are a lot of reports about the beauty of Anne, but also her eyes. 78 00:07:03,010 --> 00:07:04,630 Everything goes through her eyes. 79 00:07:05,470 --> 00:07:07,670 She charms through her eyes. 80 00:07:11,010 --> 00:07:18,010 Anne Boleyn is seen as being a bit different and exotic. It gave her this 81 00:07:18,010 --> 00:07:19,710 kind of exotism. 82 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:21,030 She's like... 83 00:07:21,260 --> 00:07:24,580 No one else at Henry VIII's court. 84 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:32,300 Anne was sophisticated in terms of her style, in terms of her knowledge of 85 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:37,600 flirtation, which the French court was decades ahead of the English with. 86 00:07:37,860 --> 00:07:43,360 So, you know, she could flirt. She could present herself as an alluring woman. 87 00:07:44,980 --> 00:07:47,260 We have to remember that. Henry himself. 88 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,220 lived in a bubble in which there were probably only 30 women. 89 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:56,520 So to have Anne there, bringing in this sophistication from outside, I suspect 90 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,000 would have looked remarkably attractive. 91 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,020 And indeed, Anne does catch the eye of the king. 92 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,300 Little clues begin appearing that suggest the start of a budding romance 93 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:22,460 Anne and Henry. 94 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:29,580 How do you communicate with a lady in your wife's household? 95 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,200 So secret note, these are one of the few ways in which courtly love can express 96 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,200 itself. 97 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:42,600 There are real pieces of concrete evidence that link Anne with Henry. One 98 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,680 book of hours in which he had written a love note to her. 99 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,420 Now, if you think about that, that's a remarkable thing to do, to deface a 100 00:08:50,420 --> 00:08:53,060 religious book with erotic messages. 101 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:59,940 They choose specific illuminated images in which to write their 102 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:02,420 messages to each other. 103 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:10,060 Henry chooses an image of the wounded Christ to write to Anne of his pains 104 00:09:10,060 --> 00:09:12,340 of love towards her. 105 00:09:13,070 --> 00:09:16,710 Anne writes a rather clever little couplet to Henry. 106 00:09:17,170 --> 00:09:24,010 By daily proof you shall me find to be to you both loving and kind. 107 00:09:25,150 --> 00:09:31,030 It's a very eloquent message. The image that she chooses to convey to Henry 108 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:34,330 alongside is an image of the Annunciation. 109 00:09:34,650 --> 00:09:39,750 So here Anne is saying, I will provide you with an heir. 110 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,060 Because it's very unlikely that Queen Catherine of Aragon will. 111 00:09:45,860 --> 00:09:49,780 I think he certainly, at this point, is obsessed with her. 112 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,280 He wants to possess her. 113 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,000 He's physically attracted to her. 114 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,540 As for Anne, I would be surprised if she was really in love with Henry VIII. 115 00:10:03,580 --> 00:10:07,040 That's mainly because I can't imagine anyone being in love with Henry VIII. 116 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,980 But she could see a very bright future ahead of her if she became Queen of 117 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:16,080 England and the mother of the next king. 118 00:10:18,060 --> 00:10:23,140 I think we can sense that Henry is the one that falls in love first. He is 119 00:10:23,140 --> 00:10:24,140 attracted to her. 120 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:31,140 But Anne does what aubergines do and make use of a good 121 00:10:31,140 --> 00:10:32,140 opportunity. 122 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:45,920 When Thomas finds out about Henry's interest in Anne, he takes her away from 123 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,320 court to their family seat of Hever Castle in Kent. 124 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:57,160 So this is a place where the Boleyns often retreat to get away from the court 125 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,660 gossip and to discuss, to plan. 126 00:11:01,380 --> 00:11:03,800 And they can do so in relative privacy. 127 00:11:07,630 --> 00:11:12,470 This is a pivotal moment for the family's fortunes, one they've 128 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:13,470 before. 129 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:22,030 The king has already taken and discarded Mary, staining her reputation. 130 00:11:29,010 --> 00:11:35,130 So how does Mary Boleyn react when she sees the king's attentions? 131 00:11:35,550 --> 00:11:37,270 falling on her sister Anne. 132 00:11:38,990 --> 00:11:45,390 She surely felt very worried for her, very fearful, very concerned for Anne's 133 00:11:45,390 --> 00:11:49,570 future. I think everyone was unsure where they were. Anne would have been 134 00:11:49,570 --> 00:11:55,470 anxious, excited, but wary, rightly wary, of what being Henry's mistress 135 00:11:55,470 --> 00:12:00,430 involved. Like all relationships at court, they're fraught with danger. 136 00:12:00,830 --> 00:12:04,870 To have a member of your family as the king's mistress was both a possibility 137 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:09,190 but also a time -limited issue. 138 00:12:09,510 --> 00:12:13,650 The moment he discards that, does he also discard the whole family? 139 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:19,130 Thomas would be somewhat more reluctant and reticent at this point. 140 00:12:19,390 --> 00:12:22,670 He knows the natural limitations of such relationships. 141 00:12:23,330 --> 00:12:26,990 Indeed, he has seen it with his own daughter, Mary. 142 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:29,370 Is Anne different? 143 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:32,240 Will this opportunity be different? 144 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,800 Or is he recognising that absence makes the heart grow fonder? Is this a 145 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,480 strategy on Thomas's part? 146 00:12:46,460 --> 00:12:51,420 Whilst down in Hever, Anne writes to Henry. Now, we actually don't have her 147 00:12:51,420 --> 00:12:55,940 letters, but we can understand a bit of what she was talking about from Henry's 148 00:12:55,940 --> 00:13:01,110 responses. There is a sense that perhaps... she's being advised by her 149 00:13:01,370 --> 00:13:04,210 I mean, this is a man who is the master of diplomacy. 150 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:07,750 So if anyone's going to know how to react to Henry, it's Thomas. 151 00:13:14,490 --> 00:13:20,690 His French is impossible. 152 00:13:22,350 --> 00:13:23,730 Some of them are written in French. 153 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,100 Is this Henry showing off his sophistication to the sophisticated 154 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:29,160 -educated Anne? 155 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:30,560 Possibly it is. 156 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:36,400 In turning over in my mind the context of your last letters, I have put myself 157 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:41,740 into great agony, not knowing how to interpret them, whether to my 158 00:13:42,100 --> 00:13:47,500 as you show in some places, or to my advantage, as I understand them in 159 00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:53,280 I beseech you earnestly to let me know expressly your whole mind after the love 160 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,280 between us two. 161 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:02,720 If you please to do the office of a true friend and mistress, and give yourself 162 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,460 body and heart to me, then I will be your most loyal servant. 163 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,480 If your scruples allow you to become my mistress in this full sense, 164 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,100 I promise not only that you shall be given the name and status befitting you, 165 00:14:17,180 --> 00:14:22,960 but also that I will take you for my only mistress, casting off four lovers 166 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,960 serve you alone. 167 00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:31,860 What Henry is doing is asking for a carnal relationship, a sexual 168 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:37,900 relationship. He wants her to give herself body to him, 169 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,780 and that in so doing... 170 00:14:41,150 --> 00:14:47,070 he will give her in return the honour and status of being his only and 171 00:14:47,070 --> 00:14:53,190 mistress. It's a form of negotiation in what kind of relationship they're going 172 00:14:53,190 --> 00:14:54,190 to have. 173 00:14:54,850 --> 00:14:59,170 I beseech you to give an entire answer to this, my rude letter, that I may know 174 00:14:59,170 --> 00:15:04,970 on what and how far I may depend, written by the hand of him who would 175 00:15:04,970 --> 00:15:07,150 remain yours, Henry Rex. 176 00:15:11,690 --> 00:15:16,150 He's still married to Catherine of Aragon, but she would be known as the 177 00:15:16,150 --> 00:15:18,490 mistress. He would be faithful to her. 178 00:15:19,270 --> 00:15:22,610 Their children would have status, albeit they'd be illegitimate and couldn't 179 00:15:22,610 --> 00:15:24,490 inherit the throne, but they would have a status. 180 00:15:25,070 --> 00:15:28,590 What's also very clear from the sequence of the letters is that Anne Boleyn says 181 00:15:28,590 --> 00:15:30,230 no, she doesn't want this. 182 00:15:31,790 --> 00:15:34,170 Anne, it seems to me, is holding off. 183 00:15:34,730 --> 00:15:39,110 having a relationship which would be like the one her sister had, where she 184 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:44,470 would be the mistress of the king and might very well, as Mary was, be cast 185 00:15:47,750 --> 00:15:52,230 We can also get a sense of Thomas Boleyn and what he feels in this. Because, of 186 00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:56,590 course, Hever is his house. If he said, no, you cannot go back there, you must 187 00:15:56,590 --> 00:15:59,870 stay at court, then that would be a sure sign that... 188 00:16:00,140 --> 00:16:04,460 He wants her to become the king's mistress, but he takes her back to 189 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,820 So it's clear that Thomas Boleyn also wants more for Anne. 190 00:16:09,860 --> 00:16:13,980 The entire Boleyn family is being drawn into these delicate negotiations, 191 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:20,480 including Anne's brother George, who quickly benefits from his sister's 192 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,520 favour with the king. 193 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,100 George Boleyn, he's at court and still in attendance on the king. 194 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,000 And where before he's been a bit of an outlier, not particularly close to 195 00:16:31,140 --> 00:16:35,400 now that Henry is interested in George's sister, he's all over George Boleyn. 196 00:16:36,380 --> 00:16:40,600 It had a massive impact on George Boleyn's standing and on his fortune. 197 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:44,380 He'd been steadily rising through court for a number of years. 198 00:16:44,980 --> 00:16:50,600 Firstly, he's a royal cup bearer. He's in attendance at every ceremonial event. 199 00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:55,880 He's there with his cup, offering it to the king at banquets, at dances, when he 200 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,879 meets ambassadors. 201 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,900 Through the relationship with his sister, his career is accelerated. 202 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:07,200 He is able to access patronage from the king in a way that he didn't necessarily 203 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,200 get before. 204 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,980 He's master of the king's buckhounds, which means that he's in control of the 205 00:17:11,980 --> 00:17:16,160 king's hunting dogs. And in fact, we have payments in royal accounts for 206 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,300 being paid to buy the dog food for these dogs. 207 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:25,880 George Boleyn begins to act as a messenger between Anne and Henry, taking 208 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,380 letters back and forth between the court and the family's home in Kent. 209 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:38,170 He's intemperate, he's cocky, he's popular, he's very handsome, he's 210 00:17:38,410 --> 00:17:43,710 He's not quite as smooth as his father. He doesn't quite have that natural 211 00:17:43,710 --> 00:17:44,830 instinct for diplomacy. 212 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:51,510 He's seen as the messenger. So he becomes closer to Henry, but really only 213 00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:55,090 because at this stage he is Anne Boleyn's brother. 214 00:17:58,250 --> 00:17:59,250 Dearest Anne. 215 00:17:59,820 --> 00:18:03,160 George and Anne Boleyn were an absolute pair together. 216 00:18:03,420 --> 00:18:07,440 So they were perfectly matched and they had this very, very special bond. 217 00:18:07,740 --> 00:18:12,620 I thank you most cordially for the gift of the fine diamond attached to the 218 00:18:12,620 --> 00:18:17,860 little ship within which the solitary damsel rattled about inside. And for the 219 00:18:17,860 --> 00:18:21,860 fine interpretation you sent me to explain its meaning. 220 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,860 Henry thanks her for the image of a maiden tossed in a storm in a boat. 221 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:35,820 which is a very pointed gift for her to send to him, I think, suggesting the 222 00:18:35,820 --> 00:18:41,800 woman who is at sea, who does not quite yet trust the security of getting to 223 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,560 harbour, getting to land in Henry's promises. 224 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,060 She's saying, look, I don't know how to take what you're saying. 225 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:56,280 And he again reassures her that his desires are honest and trustworthy. 226 00:18:57,690 --> 00:19:00,890 and for submitting yourself to me with all your goodness. 227 00:19:01,910 --> 00:19:07,170 When we look at the letters, we can actually see the moment when Henry 228 00:19:07,170 --> 00:19:10,950 intentions towards Anne change, and when he makes her an offer that she can't 229 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:11,950 refuse. 230 00:19:12,670 --> 00:19:16,290 From this point on, my heart shall be dedicated to you alone. 231 00:19:16,770 --> 00:19:18,730 I wish my person was so too. 232 00:19:19,370 --> 00:19:21,890 God can do it, if he pleases. 233 00:19:22,770 --> 00:19:26,570 To whom I pray every day for that end, hoping that at length... 234 00:19:26,830 --> 00:19:27,990 My prayers will be heard. 235 00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:34,850 This is the moment that the relationship changes. 236 00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:41,790 And this is undoubtedly Anne's acceptance of the offer of marriage. 237 00:19:42,430 --> 00:19:45,750 She knows it's going to be a difficult path that they're going to follow. 238 00:19:46,170 --> 00:19:49,450 But marriage is an offer that she is prepared to accept. 239 00:19:51,550 --> 00:19:56,250 As she reaches this new understanding with Henry, The balance of power between 240 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:58,650 Anne and her father, Thomas, shifts. 241 00:19:59,930 --> 00:20:04,730 I don't think we can see the hand of Thomas Boleyn here. 242 00:20:04,930 --> 00:20:09,330 Anne is a very independent woman, and I think she is probably doing much of the 243 00:20:09,330 --> 00:20:10,330 negotiations. 244 00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:15,760 However... perfectly plausible that she would discuss with her father and 245 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,480 possibly even her mother about the way to go, sound out their opinion. 246 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,560 She's not a weak part or a pawn on the political chessboard. She's sort of 247 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,160 positioning herself as a woman of power who commands respect from the king. And 248 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:37,060 I think that only furthers to fan that flame of desire in Henry. Henry must 249 00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:41,260 realised that the very precariousness of his own dynasty... 250 00:20:41,470 --> 00:20:43,330 Catherine is considerably older. 251 00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:46,210 There are no offspring in the offing. 252 00:20:46,570 --> 00:20:51,730 Miscarriages have begun to peter out. Once he comes to the conclusion that 253 00:20:51,730 --> 00:20:57,250 Catherine is not going to bear him a legitimate son, he decides to invest all 254 00:20:57,250 --> 00:20:58,550 has in Anne Boleyn. 255 00:21:01,350 --> 00:21:05,810 It appears that Anne has skilfully negotiated her own position in this 256 00:21:05,810 --> 00:21:06,810 relationship. 257 00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:09,590 And by securing a marriage proposal... 258 00:21:09,950 --> 00:21:11,750 has achieved exactly what she wants. 259 00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:19,530 In so doing, she turns the role of Tudor women and royal mistresses upside down. 260 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:38,070 Anne returns to court, eager to exert her newfound influence. 261 00:21:40,780 --> 00:21:43,380 But one major obstacle stands in her way. 262 00:21:45,860 --> 00:21:50,600 In order to progress, she needs to become Henry's wife. 263 00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:57,840 How is that going to play out? How is she going to resolve the very real and 264 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:04,240 problematic issue at hand, the fact that Henry is married to Catherine of 265 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,240 Aragon? 266 00:22:13,290 --> 00:22:18,690 To help him end his marriage, Henry turns to Wolsey, the most senior 267 00:22:18,690 --> 00:22:19,690 in England. 268 00:22:21,670 --> 00:22:26,030 His hope is that Wolsey can persuade the Pope to grant an annulment. 269 00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:36,210 Wolsey's first reaction is probably being rather appalled at the prospect, 270 00:22:36,210 --> 00:22:38,910 the king must have what the king wants. 271 00:22:39,690 --> 00:22:43,630 As far as Wolsey is concerned at the outset of all of this, it was a 272 00:22:43,630 --> 00:22:48,750 straightforward case, you know, clergy to clergy, canon law to canon law, we'll 273 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:52,790 sort it and everything will be all right. Henry isn't asking for something 274 00:22:52,790 --> 00:22:53,790 completely unprecedented. 275 00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:59,870 Kings annul marriages, queens retire into a life of religious chastity and 276 00:22:59,870 --> 00:23:01,090 move on all the time. 277 00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:06,430 This won't be Wolsey's first dealings with the Boleyns. 278 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,760 Thomas has worked closely with him in the past, and the two get on well. 279 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,760 Unlike Wolsey and Thomas Howard, who are old rivals. 280 00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:26,340 But the Cardinal's relationship with Anne is strained. 281 00:23:28,660 --> 00:23:33,040 He was responsible for ending her tryst with the man she considered her first 282 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:39,200 true love, Henry Percy, leaving her, according to one source, swearing 283 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,200 upon him. 284 00:23:42,780 --> 00:23:48,120 If it ever lies in my power, I will work as much displeasure for Wolsey as he 285 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:49,120 has shown me. 286 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,280 But Anne can't afford to let her animosity towards Wolsey show. 287 00:23:59,580 --> 00:24:04,580 Although she is suspicious of Wolsey, thinking he's not going to promote her 288 00:24:04,580 --> 00:24:11,490 interests... She realises that she's got to get him on her side and she will 289 00:24:11,490 --> 00:24:14,670 use him as best she can to get what she wants. 290 00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:26,410 When Wolsey returns from a mission abroad, he suddenly realises quite how 291 00:24:26,410 --> 00:24:28,970 power Anne and the Boleyns now hold. 292 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,640 The first thing that Wolsey knows when he comes back is that he's used to 293 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,900 walking more or less straight into the king, but he's told to wait at the 294 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:48,180 insistence of Anne Boleyn, and only when she says so that he's allowed in. 295 00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:52,600 And that certainly telegraphs immediately to Wolsey that things have 296 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,340 She's making it quite clear to Wolsey... 297 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,080 There are two ears that he needed to please now. 298 00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:09,420 This is a very bold move on Anne's part, and it must have been fairly 299 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:10,980 humbling for Wolsey. 300 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:18,340 Wolsey is very well aware that Anne and her family are a force to be reckoned 301 00:25:18,340 --> 00:25:19,340 with. 302 00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:23,620 Anne's position of influence is steadily growing. 303 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,960 Now even the king's right -hand man is under her sway. 304 00:25:31,820 --> 00:25:36,740 Behind her, her Berlin relatives are also moving closer to the centre of 305 00:25:38,780 --> 00:25:42,080 The family are in an unprecedented situation. 306 00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:50,240 This is much more complicated than Thomas simply wanting to slip his 307 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,700 into the king's bed for his own betterment. 308 00:25:53,060 --> 00:25:59,200 Henry very much is in control here. He is the one that has singled out Anne. 309 00:25:59,740 --> 00:26:04,040 But that doesn't mean to say that Thomas, ever the strategist, isn't going 310 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,000 make the best of the opportunity in front of him. 311 00:26:08,780 --> 00:26:14,080 For Anne's uncle, Thomas Howard, the situation also brings new possibilities. 312 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,940 The news that Anne Boleyn is on the rise as a potential love interest and then, 313 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,000 incredibly, as a potential queen for Henry VIII certainly offers Thomas 314 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,000 opportunity. 315 00:26:27,310 --> 00:26:30,710 Of course, it's going to offer greater access to the heart of the royal family, 316 00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:34,550 to the heart of patronage, and she increased privileges as the uncle of the 317 00:26:34,550 --> 00:26:35,429 future queen. 318 00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:42,050 But it does also carry great risks. If the love affair runs far between 319 00:26:42,050 --> 00:26:46,770 Henry and Anne, the family are going to be caught in the crosshairs. They are 320 00:26:46,770 --> 00:26:52,250 going to be left to pay a price for this. Her becoming queen might be a 321 00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:53,770 noose around the family's neck. 322 00:27:01,930 --> 00:27:08,410 In 1528, all of the Boleyn family's hopes could have come crashing down. 323 00:27:11,270 --> 00:27:14,650 In Tudor England, there's an illness called the sweating sickness. 324 00:27:18,030 --> 00:27:22,610 It's possibly some type of flu. Nobody quite knows. Clearly very catching and 325 00:27:22,610 --> 00:27:28,490 very, very deadly. It was known for taking out the fittest, the youngest in 326 00:27:28,490 --> 00:27:30,750 society. And it reaches the court. 327 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,720 This is COVID with bells on to the pewter period. 328 00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:45,960 That intimacy between Henry and Anne at court is then suddenly disrupted because 329 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,840 the sweating sickness is unpredictable and it's virulent. You could be happy in 330 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,580 the morning, dead by tea time. 331 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:59,100 And Henry knows absolutely that his own personal safety is not only prime to 332 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:02,580 him, but it's the future of the nation as well. He can't get sick. 333 00:28:02,970 --> 00:28:07,730 All the performance of the ardent, desirous lover, that has to go on hold 334 00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:08,790 the sickness is over. 335 00:28:10,850 --> 00:28:14,290 He sends Anne away. He sends her back to Hever. 336 00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:21,870 Unfortunately for the Boleyns, all wasn't well at Hever, and Thomas Boleyn 337 00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:24,530 Anne Boleyn both came down with the sweating sickness themselves. 338 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,980 Henry Yates was hugely anxious. He sent Anne his second best doctor, obviously 339 00:28:38,980 --> 00:28:43,020 keeping the first with him just in case, but it's a mark of his respect for Anne 340 00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:47,160 that he was prepared to get rid of his second best doctor to send him to her. 341 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,680 But he's clearly very, very anxious about Anne Boleyn, and with good reason. 342 00:28:52,660 --> 00:28:57,480 Very, very fortunately for the family, both Thomas Boleyn and Anne survived the 343 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,580 outbreak of sweating sickness. 344 00:29:00,620 --> 00:29:04,460 But the Boleyn family don't escape entirely unscathed. 345 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,080 Mary Boleyn's husband, William Carey, dies during this outbreak. 346 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,080 William Carey was young and healthy with his future ahead of him, but this 347 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,700 disease took him out, leaving her a widow. 348 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,240 There are advantages to being a widow in Tudor England. 349 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,040 Suddenly, you're independent. 350 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,440 You can make your own choices. 351 00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:41,520 You have your own money. 352 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,860 But Mary doesn't seem to have seen many of these advantages. 353 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:53,680 So we know that Mary Boleyn was left in financial strait. 354 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,180 and that Thomas Boleyn doesn't seem to have been very willing to support her. 355 00:29:58,180 --> 00:30:01,680 fact, one of Henry VIII's letters to Anne Boleyn actually mentions this and 356 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,640 talks about getting her father to pay for Mary Boleyn's upkeep. 357 00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:14,420 For surely whatsoever is said, it cannot so stand with his honour but that he 358 00:30:14,420 --> 00:30:19,300 must needs take her, his natural daughter, now in her extreme necessity. 359 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,360 Does this show a rift between Thomas Boleyn and his daughter Mary at this 360 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,380 Certainly he wasn't willing to put his hand in his pocket to support her as a 361 00:30:32,380 --> 00:30:33,380 widow. 362 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,740 It does rather suggest that maybe he wasn't particularly proud of the 363 00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:44,980 that she had made because Mary Boleyn's husband, William Carey, was a solid man. 364 00:30:45,140 --> 00:30:47,580 He was a courtier, a gentleman. 365 00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:51,220 But Thomas Boleyn is a highly ambitious man and highly ambitious for his 366 00:30:51,220 --> 00:30:52,720 daughters. So... 367 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,040 Perhaps he was disappointed in Mary. 368 00:30:56,500 --> 00:31:01,960 You could say that her father did not technically have any responsibility, 369 00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:06,080 financial responsibility, for his adult widowed daughter. 370 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:12,800 But I think we'd all agree that a loving father would want to help his daughter 371 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:19,180 to give her emotional as well as financial support. We just know 372 00:31:19,180 --> 00:31:21,560 that she was unhappy. 373 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:24,600 Desperate. Alone. 374 00:31:25,340 --> 00:31:32,280 Her sister is becoming more important. And she is 375 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,500 being kept in the shadows. 376 00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:38,540 Possibly because of her previous relationship with the king. 377 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:44,380 Reputation means everything to families at the Tudor court. 378 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,980 Perhaps to the more ambitious members of the Berlin clan. 379 00:31:49,690 --> 00:31:52,310 Mary is regarded as no longer worth helping. 380 00:31:54,210 --> 00:32:00,990 However these two sisters may have felt when they were young, they certainly go 381 00:32:00,990 --> 00:32:04,770 very different ways as they become older. 382 00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:11,830 Anne is interested in power and influence in a way that Mary 383 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:13,510 does not appear to be. 384 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:23,320 After recuperating from her illness in Kent, Anne returns to court, keen to 385 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,560 regain her position at the centre of power. 386 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,900 Of course, the great matter, the annulment, is the great issue at hand 387 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,560 things are rumbling on at a slow pace. 388 00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:41,700 I think we can actually gain a sense of acute frustration on Anne's part that 389 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:47,340 the divorce proceedings or the attempt to even get close to them by Wolsey are 390 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:49,060 taking quite as long as they are. 391 00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:53,770 It is good to return to this place. 392 00:32:54,330 --> 00:32:57,470 Now the Cardinal is trying to secure lodgings for me miles away. 393 00:32:57,950 --> 00:32:58,950 Let him try. 394 00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:03,650 My Lord Henry has let his counsel my patience in our great matter. 395 00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:05,950 It is all in hand, I am told. 396 00:33:06,850 --> 00:33:08,250 We shall see about that. 397 00:33:11,910 --> 00:33:16,390 Despite the urgency, Wolsey finds it harder than expected to secure the 398 00:33:16,390 --> 00:33:17,390 annulment. 399 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,160 The Pope keeps stalling due to family allegiances with Catherine of Aragon. 400 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,940 But from Anne's perspective, Woolsey still looks like her safest bet. 401 00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:39,020 There's no necessary reason why they need to fall out, provided Woolsey has 402 00:33:39,020 --> 00:33:43,240 the necessary means to get the Pope to do what's required. 403 00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:47,060 And that's when we get a series of letters. 404 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:54,140 in which it's clear that Anne is prepared to recognise Wolsey's skills 405 00:33:54,140 --> 00:34:00,140 talents, provided she can be sure and he can assure her that he's going to work 406 00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:03,200 to the ultimate goal, which is the annulment. 407 00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:11,320 My lord, in the humblest way my heart can imagine, please pardon me for being 408 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,500 bold as to trouble you with my simple writing. 409 00:34:14,350 --> 00:34:17,909 I assure you it comes from the desire to know that your grace does well. 410 00:34:18,130 --> 00:34:23,310 And also, my lord, I do so long to hear from you news that the legate who has 411 00:34:23,310 --> 00:34:26,989 come from Rome to grant the king, our master, his divorce. 412 00:34:27,810 --> 00:34:33,290 For I trust this man will be most good and successful in resolving our great 413 00:34:33,290 --> 00:34:36,170 matter as he has been chosen by you. 414 00:34:37,070 --> 00:34:41,830 For I feel sure you desire this divorce every bit as much as I do. 415 00:34:43,949 --> 00:34:46,790 your humble servant, Anne Boleyn. 416 00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:51,850 She writes in her own hand. 417 00:34:52,070 --> 00:34:58,010 That is a sign of intimacy rather than if she had left a secretary to write. 418 00:34:58,010 --> 00:35:04,190 the reality is this is very much a sign towards thee that she is 419 00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:11,110 wooing him and wanting him to work for her. She wants to know the news. What is 420 00:35:11,110 --> 00:35:12,410 happening on the King's divorce? 421 00:35:13,260 --> 00:35:16,580 And then there is a postscript to the letter. 422 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,640 The writer of this letter would not cease, though she had caused me likewise 423 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,540 add my hand, desiring you to take it in good part. 424 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,160 I ensure you, both of us greatly desire to see you. 425 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,940 By your loving sovereign and friend, Henry. 426 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,730 So the fact that Anne Boleyn... forced him to write this brief postscript 427 00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:49,530 volumes of how important it was to her but she's making a very clear statement 428 00:35:49,530 --> 00:35:53,850 of her power because Henry VIII is doing what she said. 429 00:35:54,050 --> 00:35:57,970 He is writing to Wolsey because she has told him to do so. 430 00:35:58,870 --> 00:36:05,050 My hunch is that Anne begins to suspect that things aren't developing as they 431 00:36:05,050 --> 00:36:08,830 should and I think Anne's intuition is kicking in here. 432 00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:14,640 Whereas Henry, I think, is still very much hoping that Wolsey will deliver, I 433 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,480 think Anne has her suspicions. 434 00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:21,560 You do start to see, through the end of 1528 and early into 1529, an awful lot 435 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,140 of court commentators, ambassadors and people writing letters back and forth, 436 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:30,680 are starting to note that Wolsey is failing to get the king what he wants, 437 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,680 is never a wise move. 438 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,200 The Lady Anne is the cause of all disorder at court. 439 00:36:38,350 --> 00:36:42,430 Now she finds her marriage plans delayed, she's becoming suspicious that 440 00:36:42,430 --> 00:36:45,130 Cardinal Wesley is putting impediments in her way. 441 00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:48,750 Because when she's queen, his power will decline. 442 00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:55,730 Her father, Thomas Boleyn, shares this view, as does her uncle, Thomas Howard. 443 00:36:57,710 --> 00:37:02,290 People say power is increasingly in their hands and they have conspired to 444 00:37:02,290 --> 00:37:07,690 overthrow Worsley, but there seems no evidence they have persuaded the king 445 00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:17,710 Though I have observed at courts, Henry is not so friendly towards his cardinal. 446 00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:25,170 There's a clear sense at court that you're either on Wolsey's side. 447 00:37:25,580 --> 00:37:28,240 or you're on the side of the Boleyn -Howard faction. 448 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,800 And there's a certain degree of pressure on choosing those sides. 449 00:37:33,020 --> 00:37:38,840 And very soon people start shifting their allegiances towards the Boleyns. 450 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,380 also obvious by the number of other people that are also now at court who 451 00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:45,860 weren't necessarily at court as regularly before, and Thomas Howard is 452 00:37:45,860 --> 00:37:50,860 those. While his niece is now starting so clearly to rise, while the king needs 453 00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:53,540 something done, Thomas Howard is straight in there. 454 00:37:55,470 --> 00:37:59,890 While not particularly politically sensitive, he's by no means stupid. 455 00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:04,250 And he's disliked Wolsey for so long that any hint that Wolsey is out of 456 00:38:04,330 --> 00:38:05,550 he is going to jump on that. 457 00:38:07,310 --> 00:38:11,690 At the same time, the tables have turned between Thomas and his daughter. 458 00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:16,210 For the moment, Anne is the de facto head of the Boleyn family. 459 00:38:17,090 --> 00:38:20,490 Their fate and future lie in her hands. 460 00:38:21,930 --> 00:38:25,010 I think Thomas Boleyn is having many sleepless nights. 461 00:38:25,650 --> 00:38:31,150 I think he is very uncertain about the future. It could have gone either way 462 00:38:31,150 --> 00:38:34,870 him. He could have had Anne as Queen of England, or he could have had Anne 463 00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:36,670 discarded as the mistress. 464 00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:41,170 He's also terribly concerned about his own position. He's torn. 465 00:38:42,650 --> 00:38:47,650 He has a lingering loyalty towards me. He's being pulled in different 466 00:38:47,650 --> 00:38:50,470 directions, and he has no real agency here. 467 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:08,440 From May 1529, letters show the cardinal's failure to deliver the 468 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,220 be the talk of the king's inner circle. 469 00:39:12,740 --> 00:39:15,580 Wolsey is in the greatest pain he ever was. 470 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,680 The French ambassador even reports that the Berlin faction are beginning to turn 471 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,620 the king's mind against the cardinal. 472 00:39:37,390 --> 00:39:42,070 With Henry losing patience, Wolsey takes a huge gamble. 473 00:39:48,770 --> 00:39:53,550 He announces a public trial, which he hopes will prove, before a 474 00:39:53,550 --> 00:39:58,490 from Rome, that Henry's marriage to Catherine was never legal in the first 475 00:39:58,490 --> 00:39:59,490 place. 476 00:40:01,990 --> 00:40:07,130 Well, the atmosphere of the Blackfriars trial is likely to have been quite 477 00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:08,730 formal, quite tense. 478 00:40:09,950 --> 00:40:16,690 Henry has asked the papacy to rule on the validity of his 479 00:40:16,690 --> 00:40:21,030 marriage. So a lot is riding on it. Everybody knows about it. Everybody 480 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:24,050 anybody is there or close by in attendance. 481 00:40:26,620 --> 00:40:30,780 He was always capable of pulling the rabbit out of the clerical hat. 482 00:40:31,140 --> 00:40:36,580 But Catherine spectacularly upstages him on the opening day. She stands up, 483 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,820 crosses the court and kneels at his feet and tells him that he knows in his 484 00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:43,360 heart that they were truly married. 485 00:40:43,660 --> 00:40:46,340 And then she walks out of the courtroom. 486 00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:52,580 and she's called back, I think, two or three times, but with her ladies and her 487 00:40:52,580 --> 00:40:57,000 courtiers of her household around her, she sort of makes this dramatic exit 488 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:03,640 the court. She completely undercuts from the outset the basis of the trial. 489 00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:12,640 After Catherine's dramatic withdrawal from the trial, Woolby is... 490 00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:17,040 He's just exhausted and trying to give himself some space to think, what can I 491 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,040 do next, you know? 492 00:41:19,540 --> 00:41:21,680 But Henry wants immediate action. 493 00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:27,000 He wants Wolsey to try again to get Catherine to accept the annulment. 494 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,960 And the person he sends to tell Wolsey this is Thomas Boleyn. 495 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,400 The king demands you must repair to Catherine without delay. 496 00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:55,600 As always, I am ready to fulfil the king's pleasure. 497 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,440 If you are now his messenger, tell him I'm readying myself to come. 498 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:08,100 The split feelings that Thomas has becomes 499 00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:15,020 obvious, particularly at the moment when Thomas Boleyn recognises, of 500 00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:16,320 course, that it isn't going to work. 501 00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:19,550 that Wolsey is going to be in trouble with the king. 502 00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:25,490 He is in as impossible a situation as is Wolsey. 503 00:42:27,070 --> 00:42:32,290 We're not looking at Thomas Boleyn as a man who is in charge and in control and 504 00:42:32,290 --> 00:42:36,230 manipulating Anne onto Catherine's throne. We're looking at a man, I think, 505 00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:39,110 is extremely worried about the future. 506 00:42:41,610 --> 00:42:45,910 If I've taught you any foresight, you know the outcome will be nothing. 507 00:42:47,050 --> 00:42:50,970 You and your party are in no small part to blame for this matter. 508 00:42:51,210 --> 00:42:55,390 You have fed the king fantasies, put new ones into his head. The power you crave 509 00:42:55,390 --> 00:42:58,330 makes you the cause of the trouble in this realm. 510 00:42:59,570 --> 00:43:01,550 And in the end, you'll get no thanks. 511 00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:04,550 In this world or the next. 512 00:43:18,380 --> 00:43:23,900 It is at this moment when Thomas Boleyn begins to see Wolsey is not their route 513 00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:25,680 to this annulment anymore. 514 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,420 It's not that he's turning against Wolsey, it's that he's starting to 515 00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:33,480 has to back his family now, rather than the Cardinal. 516 00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:46,620 The Blackfriars trial is suspended, and with it, all hopes of Wolsey ending the 517 00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:47,620 marriage. 518 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,280 Finally, it's clear this isn't going to produce the verdict that Wolsey wanted. 519 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,900 Henry is furious, ballistically angry. 520 00:43:57,540 --> 00:44:02,100 There is no gentle retirement at the Tudor court. You're either in or you're 521 00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:04,220 out, and suddenly Wolsey is out. 522 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:16,220 Thomas Howard has a particularly unpleasant trait in how hard he kicks 523 00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:17,420 someone is on the ground. 524 00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:19,680 I told you I would be returning today. 525 00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:21,020 You'll not get the seal. 526 00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:27,120 He enjoys humiliating the politically out of favor. And so as a result, this 527 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,800 almost hunter's instinct is on full display when it comes to Cardinal 528 00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:39,220 Thomas Howard pays the Cardinal a visit to remove his great seal, the thing 529 00:44:39,220 --> 00:44:43,440 which once gave Woolsey the power to authorize state documents on behalf of 530 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,440 king. 531 00:44:47,150 --> 00:44:51,970 I came here yesterday to demand that Wolsey surrender into my hands the great 532 00:44:51,970 --> 00:44:56,110 seal and that he ready himself to depart this place and quit London. 533 00:44:56,430 --> 00:45:00,850 The curious cardinal wished to know what authority I had for this command. 534 00:45:01,370 --> 00:45:05,070 I would regard my presence as authority enough in that regard, but no. 535 00:45:05,590 --> 00:45:09,510 As the great seal of England, the symbol of royal power, was delivered to him by 536 00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:15,630 the king himself, Wolsey insisted that only the king's word could relinquish 537 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,480 So, an extra journey. 538 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,680 But there you have it. 539 00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:32,300 This marks really the end of Woolsey's official might. 540 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,240 It looks like a settling of scores between them. 541 00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:43,780 Thomas Howard, who has felt that he has had this stunted career, who has endured 542 00:45:43,780 --> 00:45:47,140 things being taken off him seemingly by Woolsey's initiative. 543 00:45:48,110 --> 00:45:52,750 can now take the greatest symbol of Wolsey's success from him. 544 00:45:58,430 --> 00:46:03,690 The deposing of Wolsey is the Boleyn family's greatest victory so far. 545 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,840 I think ultimately Anne is responsible for Wolsey's downfall. 546 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,640 Thomas Boleyn had had a lasting working relationship with Wolsey. Anne never had 547 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,200 that. He was purely a functionary person who was there to do the King's bidding 548 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,660 and therefore her bidding. And he'd utterly failed to do so. 549 00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:37,440 It's a ruthless downfall. This is the only time that Wolsey isn't able to 550 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,660 deliver. But Anne is unforgiving in that regard. 551 00:46:50,030 --> 00:46:54,190 There's no doubt that Anne Boleyn relished Wolsey's fall. 552 00:46:54,850 --> 00:46:59,830 She goes with Henry to his palace to view his goods and possessions, decide 553 00:46:59,830 --> 00:47:02,730 do they want, what would they like to keep of his goods, because they don't 554 00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:03,810 belong to Wolsey anymore. 555 00:47:04,030 --> 00:47:07,270 They're the king's, and through the king, of course, they're Anne's. 556 00:47:07,790 --> 00:47:14,150 Ultimately, that is the prize of ambition, and Anne seems to be 557 00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:16,190 unashamed by that. 558 00:47:17,310 --> 00:47:19,760 I think... and can be vengeful. 559 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,800 She really is dancing on Wolsey's grave. 560 00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:37,060 The Boleyns and Howards are now the most powerful people in Henry VIII's court. 561 00:47:41,860 --> 00:47:45,740 Thomas Howard takes over the role of President of the Royal Council. 562 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:53,520 Thomas Boleyn is made Earl of Wiltshire and becomes Lord Privy Seal. 563 00:47:56,580 --> 00:48:01,680 George Boleyn takes on his father's former title, Viscount Rochford. 564 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,300 Who is left to carry out the king's will when Wolsey has gone? 565 00:48:07,580 --> 00:48:11,600 There's Thomas Howard, the most powerful nobleman, who's good at shouting and 566 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,860 bullying people and leading armies, but not a sophisticated operator. 567 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,880 Then there's Thomas Boleyn. 568 00:48:17,290 --> 00:48:22,050 A diplomat, someone with greater skill, someone with a facility with languages, 569 00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:25,530 who can talk to ambassadors in their own language. 570 00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:29,610 And, of course, then there's George Boleyn, who has a certain style and 571 00:48:29,610 --> 00:48:30,610 of his own. 572 00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:38,230 And, of course, above them all is Anne Boleyn herself, directing Henry's 573 00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:43,990 attention one way or another, suggesting strategies, urging him and pushing him 574 00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:45,610 to get on with the job. 575 00:48:46,060 --> 00:48:47,380 of producing the divorce. 576 00:48:51,220 --> 00:48:56,260 All of a sudden, the Berlin ambition has been revealed and exposed. 577 00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,620 And of course, with that, there's a lot of judgment. 578 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:04,320 They always have relied on Wolsey, and Wolsey is now gone. They have to 579 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,160 solve the dilemma that they accused Wolsey of not being able to solve. 580 00:49:08,420 --> 00:49:10,340 They are in uncharted waters. 581 00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:29,620 Holding the reins of power makes the Boleyns acutely vulnerable. 582 00:49:34,740 --> 00:49:38,520 Henry is a dangerous and unpredictable master to serve. 583 00:49:41,580 --> 00:49:46,340 Now that Wolsey is gone, there's no one standing between them and the 584 00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:48,780 increasingly unrealistic demands of the king. 585 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,440 Henry... begins to make impulsive decisions, some of which look 586 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:02,320 -advised. For instance, he sends Thomas Boleyn as the envoy to the Pope himself 587 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,000 to try and persuade him to support the case for a divorce. 588 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:10,640 He hasn't quite thought through the obvious logic that Thomas Boleyn, Anne's 589 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,880 father, is the last man who's going to persuade the Pope of absolutely 590 00:50:18,430 --> 00:50:22,850 from continental Europe who are observing this from the sidelines are, I 591 00:50:22,850 --> 00:50:24,510 generally all quite puzzled. 592 00:50:25,410 --> 00:50:28,170 Why is Henry taking this step? 593 00:50:28,610 --> 00:50:33,170 Thomas is an experienced diplomat, but he's also an interested party. 594 00:50:37,590 --> 00:50:39,530 It's incredibly awkward for all involved. 595 00:50:39,850 --> 00:50:45,710 I don't think Thomas believes he has any hope of succeeding in this embassy, but 596 00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:46,710 his hands are tied. 597 00:50:49,230 --> 00:50:54,270 He was able to meet the Pope, but he was immediately shot down. His very 598 00:50:54,270 --> 00:50:55,850 presence there was an offence. 599 00:50:57,750 --> 00:51:03,090 What it really shows, Thomas, is that they have to find alternative routes to 600 00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:04,090 annulment. 601 00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:13,850 It would be wrong, I think, to consider this a carefully worked out coup d 'etat 602 00:51:13,850 --> 00:51:15,330 by the Berlins and their allies. 603 00:51:16,090 --> 00:51:20,490 No -one was competent in this period. Everyone was playing an extraordinarily 604 00:51:20,490 --> 00:51:25,430 high -stakes game to try and achieve what Anne and what Henry wanted. 605 00:51:28,850 --> 00:51:34,370 Wolsey is gone, but Catherine of Aragon is still there. She's still Henry VIII's 606 00:51:34,370 --> 00:51:39,190 wife, and Anne Boleyn is as far from being queen as she ever has been. 607 00:51:39,590 --> 00:51:41,270 The Boleyns have power. 608 00:51:42,310 --> 00:51:44,970 They've removed potential enemies. 609 00:51:47,339 --> 00:51:48,339 and they're all stuck. 610 00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:49,800 What are they going to do now? 55894

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