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Tim, you you look very um
uh let's say it like a like a kind
person. You seem like a very kind a kind
person. And I wonder if if it's an I a
thought to kind of undercut that a
little a little bit.
Uh cuz I I I was looking at your
material and thinking is there is there
um something
Yeah. You're not you don't really
swear.
No.
Yeah. I wonder if it might be good for
you,
you know, to say something like good
evening. [ __ ]
Yeah.
I just say that because I people think
I'm kind and I'm I'm trying to undercut
this image. This is a, you know,
well, in that that restaurant bit that I
was there, one of the reasons I like
doing that is because I know that's so
how I come across and so I like to play
characters.
No, I like that. In fact, I was looking
at that. We're going to get to something
else in a minute, but but I was just
looking at this. Uh, this is your
restaurant bit, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I think it's very can can be very
very sharp and maybe have a
I don't know how you deliver, but a
bigger energy. It might be interesting
to think of it that way and really let
yourself get mad.
Yeah, I definitely play it like I
definitely do it small. I guess like I
guess the impulse with that was
cuz like of just like to be as like
smally condescend to have like small
moments of condescension build.
Yeah.
Um to like something truly rude.
Yeah.
Uh uh but it's true. I've never really
I've never really gotten too big with
it.
Well, you could start very small like
you say and then get big. I made my
thinking maybe that's the way I'd do it,
you know, and you got to do it the way
you do it. But I like I I got such a
great premise of here's when I'm rude
and then we just see you kind of get a
little rude.
Yeah.
I like to see you get really rude.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I'm going to destroy it by ruding it.
You say, "I don't want to talk about
food. I'm very very rude in restaurants.
I'm incredibly rude in restaurants. I
don't know why it comes out of me. It
just flows through me. The rudeness
flows through me like it's like air.
It's I'm a bad person when I'm in a
restaurant because I talk I talk rude to
the server. I don't mean to. It's just
the worst. So, what I want to do right
now because I don't want to go out to
eat tonight. I want I wanted to get some
of the rudeness out of my system. So,
for uh right now, we are all now you are
all now one server. Okay. So, when I
point to you, please say, "May I help
you?" So, I think that's really good.
You know, I think there are some trims
in there and a little more logic
straightening out,
but I think now you've you've
incorporated them in a sketch and
without them knowing it.
Yeah.
You know, it's really good.
Say, uh, so please say, "May I help
you?" Uh, may I help you?
And you say, "Okay, pretty good. But
let's try it again." Points to May I
help you? Perfect. Uh,
down invisible table points to audience.
And you get points on. May I help you?
Oh, yes. Thank you for coming. Finally.
Hey. Uh, considering the menu throughout
before every request delivered
sarcastically. Uh, first, um, can I have
a glass of water, please, when the food
comes, so don't go. Can I get a bison
burger, please? I'm probably speeding
through this, man. And can I taste the
difference? And I can taste the
difference. So, don't try to trick me.
Uh, and can I get that with white
cheddar? And, uh, with don't go. Uh,
please. I tip. Sauteed mushrooms. And
can can I get a side of rosemary sweet
potato fries? Thanks so much. You're
doing a really good job. And can I get
the whole thing on the house? I'm
joking. I uh do you like me? Stans makes
kissy face trying to kiss the waiter,
but I don't want but I don't want to
talk about food.
How did I read that?
Um too fast, right? Yeah, obviously.
So, I try to make it really like scenic
and kind of if I can do it small and
that's cuz like what you're saying like
I know how I look and so I think I can
be like a little more of a a a jerk in
in ways. So I can be like like, "Hey,
uh, thanks for coming finally. Uh,
don't go. Don't go. It's okay. Thank
you. You're doing so great." You know?
Um, so those sort of like little
That's good.
Very small. And so sometimes it does
really well if people want to be in that
scene with me.
Um, and also I can It also gives me a
lot of room to improvise rude moments
depending on how Yeah.
Um,
and so I feel like I like being really
rude in character because I
because I'm like
I think that's good. I I I but I I
couple of suggestions that come to me is
I'd get one or two more lines from the
audience.
Yeah.
Like if if you if you said uh you said
uh
do you do you have the fries tonight?
And you say say I'm sorry we're out of
the fries. You know say I'm sorry we're
out of the fries. What?
Out of fries? You know why didn't you
tell me? No you tell me. You know why
didn't you tell me when I came in?
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah. Yeah. And and I think you could
really I think it'd be funny to see you
really get mad.
Yeah.
You know, and and you get kind of kind
at the end. And I'm thought uh why would
you get kind? It's a
Yeah. I think like what I was trying to
do with that line is um
uh what is real is that when I'm in a
restaurant and I feel like I'm being uh
not great, I do like want to know like I
want the waiter to like me and so I feel
like I'll say something rude because
it's what I want but then I'm like oh no
I made them not like me. So I was trying
to like
tackle that feeling head on but I don't
know if it's the most clear or the most
funny
because your premise is that you're
you're secretly rude and I think that's
a good premise. I mean, you could start
it off by saying
you're probably looking at me and
thinking,
"What a jerk."
You know, like or something or or you're
not thinking that, but I'm actually
quite a jerk.
I have that in me.
And I really comes out when I go to a
restaurant. I'm so rude to a waiter. I
must be uh sublimating something and
letting it come out. Maybe I'm mad at my
dad or mom or something, but I let it
come out at the and it's and it's good.
And and I love that you just incorporate
them. And then after that, you can end
it. It's like, you know, and now I come
out of the restaurant, I feel great, you
know, I'm back to me, the me you love,
you know, the me that you guys are
sitting here going, why I love this guy,
you know, something like that. I just
think it's so smart to take out what
they we call, I don't know if this word
means anything, chuffer.
Chuffa is just like the stuff in between
that doesn't mean anything. the
pointless
meanderings. You know, sometimes you
have to use it to make a transition and
if you don't really have one, you can
walk around the stage and pretend like
you're thinking up a new big. Oh, I
don't remember what I want to talk
about, you know, that kind of thing, you
know, but the more you can unify it, you
know, without looking like this is
random,
uh, I think it makes a stronger
performer. Um, all right. Um, any any
thoughts or
I have a question for you. When I
started doing standup, I feel like I did
everything very very
scripted, sort of like very by the book.
And it's I'd riff a little bit, but it
was the goal was like to deliver the
jokes I wrote, found out the best way to
write them. And like recently, I've been
feeling like a a reverse thing to what
you've been saying, which is that
find those moments of dead time to be
yourself on stage without the jokes or
just to
learn what that space feels like a
little bit more. How do you feel about
that back and forth?
Yes. No, I think you're absolutely right
because, you know, trimming comes after
you've achieved looseness.
Yeah.
And so, you have to you don't want to
stand there and tell jokes. You It has
to feel like it's coming from a person.
and uh not just a joke teller. So in the
years that you're doing it on stage, you
do develop your own personality. And
what you have to learn is to make those
jokes sound like they're coming from you
and you're not they're not scripted that
you're kind of being spontaneous. You
have to fake spontaneity. And you know
the great performers can do it. They
sound like they're just making it up
right then. So yes, I think that's a
extremely valid thing to do.
You're kind of creating an interstitial
personality that sustains you uh in the
moments of transition. So, you know,
that's another thing to think about is
style,
right?
It's like you're you're doing
characters, you're doing standup. You
think how can that and and I like the
way you've done it. you you went
seamlessly into a character in a strange
way. And one thing that's that's good is
you made it about yourself and not say
you ever meet the guy who goes into a
restaurant who's really that's really
smart because when you make it about
yourself,
everybody's uh um you're building a
character. even if it's an abstract,
even if it's non-coherent, you know, it
doesn't really have to be coherent
because you're an individual and you
could be a million different things.
Um,
so you're you're selling you're you're
selling yourself as either
likable
or disruptive or trouble.
Um,
and
we just sort of reach deep down, you
know, come up come up with something
that you're going to be worthwhile
standing on that stage in front of them.
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