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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,395 The idea of doing a Lone Gunmen spin-off had been suggested very early on. 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,710 I always thought it was perfectly cast. 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,156 They all had that kind of great visual take on who they were. 4 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:20,153 We tell the stories others refuse to tell. 5 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:23,631 - I'm Bruce Harwood. I play Byers. - I'm Dean Haglund. I play Langly. 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,429 - I'm Tom Braidwood. I play Frohike. - (all) And we're the lone gunmen. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,916 The lone gunmen were introduced to The X-Files in the first season, 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,470 in an episode written by Glen Morgan and James Wong called "EBE". 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,995 We're talking about a dark network. 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,515 A government within a government controlling our every move. 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,639 I went in. I auditioned once. I got the part. I didn't think much of it. 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,362 And they kept calling me back for one day 13 00:00:48,374 --> 00:00:51,352 here, one day there, playing these characters. 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,114 All right. What do you know about Gulf War syndrome? 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,477 - Agent Orange of the '90s. - Shells coated with depleted uranium. 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,155 Jim Wong and Glen Morgan, who created the characters, 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,835 had a little difficulty casting the character of Frohike. 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,594 They had already cast Bruce Harwood as Byers 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,069 and they had cast Dean Haglund as Langly, 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,674 but that third character was kind of elusive. 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,311 - Hey, Frohike, can I borrow those? - If I can have Scully's phone number. 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,392 Glen Morgan and James Wong had written them to become 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,553 the even more paranoid group than Agent Mulder. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,712 In fact, that's the way they were billed, as the paranoids. 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,632 These are unlikely heroes, 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,111 not only in their characters, but in the actors we cast, 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,952 and that's, for us, the fun of it. 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:40,479 They were funny. They became, for the writers subsequent to that, a comic relief. 29 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,997 We'd go to the lone gunmen when we wanted strange and weird facts, information. 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,435 That is a Eurasian cluster fly. 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,047 They infest vegetation like apples or cherries, 32 00:01:50,059 --> 00:01:52,435 and inflict a great deal of damage to crops. 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,115 Each episode that we got as the gunmen in those little early years 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:02,151 were feeding the next one, so the information that we got from the first one 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,995 would inform the character choices for each following episode. 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,038 (Frank) The lone gunmen were popular among the writers. 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,430 We always looked for ways to bring them back. 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,957 Ironically, they almost were no more in season four, 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,113 because Glen and Jim, who'd returned for a number of episodes in season four, 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,716 wrote an episode called "Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man". 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,714 The end of that episode originally had Frohike 42 00:02:26,726 --> 00:02:29,398 being killed by the Cigarette-Smoking Man. 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,757 We were very upset. All of us who were going to stay on the show, 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,629 we didn't want these characters to go, and so we made our case to Chris. 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,873 If you watch that episode, the music ramps up to when Frohike's about to die, 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,429 then it's almost like it goes back in reverse, 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,435 like that moment was supposed to happen, but didn't happen. 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,875 But not today. 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,952 We were glad they got a reprieve and lived another day. 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:03:00,309 So at the beginning of season five, we were without David and Gillian for a few weeks 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,473 because they were still filming The X-Files feature film. 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,600 So we had to find ways to start the series 53 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,799 so we could debut in time in the fall, but not have their characters. 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:19,876 Vince Gilligan, my colleague, came up with the idea of doing a lone-gunmen episode. 55 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,070 - You wanna cha-cha? - Aw time, aw place. 56 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,470 - Both of you, relax. - Shut up, you narc. 57 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,073 It's your fault we're here. 58 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,916 (Vince) The lone gunmen first appeared as cameo characters, and I wanted to see more. 59 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,436 We got our opportunity with the episode "Unusual Suspects". 60 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,435 That was an episode that our three guys carried, and carried it admirably. 61 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,276 Welcome to the dark side. 62 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,318 (Frank) Due to the success of that, we did another one, 63 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,832 a comedic episode with the lone gunmen called "Three of a Kind", set in Las Vegas. 64 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,912 I think that episode was such a success 65 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,914 and a pleasure to write and watch, 66 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,678 that it really was the spark for the idea of doing a lone-gunmen TV series. 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,912 Frank Spotnitz, Vince Gilligan and John Shiban said: 68 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,146 "We'd like to do a spin-off of The X-Files 69 00:04:11,158 --> 00:04:13,471 starring the lone gunmen." It seemed perfect. 70 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,753 You wanna know why Joey Ramone's my hero? 71 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:20,435 Cos people like you never managed to grind him down. 72 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:26,277 They never stole his spirit. He never gave in, never gave up, and never sold out. 73 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,033 Right till his last breath. 74 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,673 I'm not sure they got it until we pitched it. When we sat with the Fox executives 75 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:38,472 and pitched broad strokes of the pilot episode, and the mystery of it. 76 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,519 Because the three leading men aren't classical leading men, 77 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,877 aren't the types of guys who drive a television series, 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,191 and we all had a hard time kind of picturing what it would be. 79 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,914 When we finally did this episode "Three of a 80 00:04:51,926 --> 00:04:54,316 Kind" at the end of season six of The X-Files, 81 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,270 it became clear what this show could be - Mission: Impossible with three geeks. 82 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,593 We knew from the pilot that we needed someone else for them to play off against, 83 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,196 and someone who would help redefine the world of The Lone Gunmen, 84 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:12,510 as opposed to the world of The X-Files, 85 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,436 and that became the character Zuleikha Robinson played, Yves Adele Harlow, 86 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,875 which is an anagram for Lee Harvey Oswald, 87 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,679 and we always looked at her as sort of a competitor. 88 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,960 You would not know whether she was good or bad, what side she was fighting on. 89 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,431 All you knew is she thwarted their attempts to get their stories. 90 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,195 (Tom) The first day that Zuleikha and I met was the day that... 91 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:38,113 We were doing the episode when I was on the wires 92 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,989 and I end up upside down and she's dressed up as a guy and she kisses me, 93 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,878 and she was so bashful about it. 94 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,713 She felt so badly that we didn't know one another 95 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,792 and she had to kiss me while I was hanging upside down. 96 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,836 I was the ugliest man I think I've ever seen in my entire life. 97 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,276 They put the wig on. I said, "I don't look so bad with short hair." 98 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,319 Then they put the moustache on and I'm just like, "Oh, I'm so ugly", 99 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,916 and I went outside and was asking the women if they'd go out with me, 100 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,233 and they're all just standing there going... cos I was just so weird-looking. 101 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,789 You sure that man was Yves Adele Harlow? 102 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,996 Trust me. No guy kisses like that. 103 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,438 The shot where Frohike was dangling was kind of fun just because it was so comic. 104 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,318 It was simple and difficult. 105 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,835 (man) Wirework is an alt in itself. 106 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,230 You can't stick actors in them and say: 107 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,914 "Fly around like you know what you're doing." 108 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,992 There are artists who do that, and double actors. 109 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,837 The fact that he was able to stay in character, survive a day in the harness, 110 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,470 which makes your mid-area really sore, 111 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,077 and then perform acrobatics that are actually fun and entertaining... 112 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,360 He dove in to that role as though he was made for it. 113 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,238 (Byers) Frohike? Hang on tight. 114 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,470 What? 115 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,969 We did have a stunt double, but poor Tom had 116 00:06:59,981 --> 00:07:02,236 to be hanging in that thing an awful lot. 117 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,393 I don't remember if he got out of it and threw up or not, but we were all being... 118 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,235 from the look on his face, we were being careful not to stand under him 119 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,470 after two or three takes. 120 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,552 - Shut it down! - Hang on! 121 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,029 - Shut it down! - Shut it down! 122 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,910 ABC Recycling was an actual car-reclamation thing, 123 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,311 and it was filthy, it was wet, it was cold. 124 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,311 The mud was about this deep, 125 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,429 and it was toxic mud, because it was full of rust and gasoline and who knows what. 126 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,797 - Come on, shut it down. - Stop, stop! 127 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,839 It was fun. The director really wanted me to do it. They had a stunt double. 128 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,639 I said I would do it, but I would only do it once. 129 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,030 If it didn't work, I wouldn't do it twice. 130 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,509 There was concerns cos there was metal, 131 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:54,949 so what we had to do is we scraped out a square area about six to eight feet square, 132 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,867 and nine inches deep, and cleared it and put a 133 00:07:57,879 --> 00:08:00,718 base in there so that it couldn't be polluted, 134 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,633 and then we filled it with a combination of peat moss 135 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,078 and a special clay and mixed it all up. So it was all very clean. 136 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,755 I just went for it, you know. I sort of figured out the timing on it, 137 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,879 and we went back and did it in the first take, and I did the face plant in the mud. 138 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,635 I guess they were happy with it cos that's what ended up in the picture. 139 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,600 This old friend, you know, run and fall down face first, 140 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,433 dig his face into the mud to make sure it's on good, 141 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,512 and then come up and then play as if it's not there, 142 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,116 I can say that I had to cover my mouth laughing at the monitor, 143 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,670 and applaud his commitment to doing it, and fearlessness, also. 144 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,037 Byers, your flight's gonna make an unscheduled stop. 145 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,155 Corner of Liberty and Washington. Lower Manhattan. 146 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,234 World Trade Centre. They're gonna crash the plane into the World Trade Centre. 147 00:08:54,320 --> 00:09:00,953 We were trying to imagine, you know, crimes that weren't paranormal, 148 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:06,035 that would involve serving terrorism - in this case, government-sponsored terrorism. 149 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,912 And so we had the idea of running an airliner 150 00:09:08,924 --> 00:09:11,479 into the World Trade Centre in Manhattan. 151 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:15,554 As a writer, particularly on The X-Files, that's how you spend your day. 152 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,439 You imagine the unimaginable and the unthinkable. 153 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,117 We want to set them up as heroes who will, unbeknownst to all of us, save the world. 154 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,080 What would be a terrible, horrible thing that could happen? 155 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,039 Unfortunately, it was the World Trade Centre. 156 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,478 I have to say, at the time, if it ever occurred to me, I imagined: 157 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,154 "Of course the government has thought about 158 00:09:37,166 --> 00:09:39,953 this. Of course there are systems in place..." 159 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,317 "If we can imagine it, we're just Hollywood writers." 160 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,598 "There are people in the Defense Department charged with defending our country 161 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:49,953 who think about these things and that there 162 00:09:49,965 --> 00:09:52,356 are things in place to defend us against it." 163 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,434 I remember that Mat Beck, who did our visual effects, flew to New York, 164 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,433 and buzzed around the World Trade Centre in a helicopter 165 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,594 to get all the shots that were used as plates to cut in with the CGI plane. 166 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:07,587 In retrospect, it's a little bit painful to 167 00:10:07,599 --> 00:10:10,517 talk about, but I went there and, you know, 168 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,501 we did a lot of flying around and I kept 169 00:10:13,513 --> 00:10:16,790 doing pass after pass flying at the building. 170 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,030 We flew over it and quite close to it, 171 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,149 and we got footage that, you know, was beautiful 172 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,800 and, in retrospect, really poignant. 173 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,760 We got special permits at the time to go into New York City, 174 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,356 to have a helicopter shoot at night heading towards the towers. 175 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,397 It was... The difficulty in just mounting 176 00:10:37,409 --> 00:10:40,595 that and getting the authorisation to do it, 177 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:43,274 and hear, you know, months later... 178 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,398 The morning of 9/11, I was directing an X-Files episode, 179 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:52,317 and I woke up to see that on television, and my first thought was The Lone Gunmen. 180 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,075 And, you know, of course, my first thought was, "God, I hope..." 181 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,629 Cos I didn't know yet what had happened or why, 182 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,792 but, "I hope this has nothing to do with what we did on TV." 183 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,590 "I hope we aren't somehow guilty of inspiring this or..." 184 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:10,389 It became clear within hours that we had nothing to do with it, 185 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,316 but it was a terrible... obviously a very terrible feeling. 186 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,756 When you live and work in a world that has so much imagination, 187 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:24,472 and then when reality just comes and sort of slaps you in the face, it's scary. 188 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:27,791 I couldn't bring myself to even look at that episode again 189 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,111 until I sat down and prepared for this interview today. 190 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,800 Oh, no. No way. 191 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,076 - Jimmy? - I wanna help. 192 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,790 After looking at the pilot, which we were pleased with, 193 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,272 we realised we needed one other character, because the lone gunmen, 194 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,593 even though we had separate positions for 195 00:11:50,605 --> 00:11:53,070 them, they all basically know the same thing. 196 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,199 They work for the same newspaper, have the same beliefs about conspiracies 197 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,396 and the same knowledge about computers, 198 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,632 and they needed somebody they could explain this stuff to, 199 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,997 because the audience doesn't know all these things. 200 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,119 And so we came up with a character who would not only serve that function... 201 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,079 - Stupid, stupid, 5111954- - (ball beeps in beat) 202 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,039 (Frank) ..but also stand in relief to them, 203 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,478 because he would be a really classically good-looking guy, 204 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:24,269 and could potentially serve as a love interest for Yves Adele Harlow, 205 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,271 which was unlikely for the lone gunmen. 206 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,618 These boys are out here because it's 207 00:12:28,630 --> 00:12:31,594 difficult, because people say it can't be done. 208 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,950 They have courage... 209 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,077 Jimmy Bond had the heart. 210 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,119 He wasn't really smart, but he always saw the love and the heart 211 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,589 and the emotional side that people had. 212 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,040 I knew that I was gonna be in the other episodes. 213 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,634 A lot of the crew just thought I was a guest star. 214 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,315 People were coming up and they were saying, "Bye. What a great job." 215 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,314 "It's a funny character too." "lt'd be nice to see you again." 216 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,073 Then I came back. 217 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,394 Monday Night Football better watch their butts. (Grunts) 218 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:04,550 Love this game. 219 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,942 I didn't know what people's reactions would 220 00:13:06,954 --> 00:13:09,430 be to this character that I'd been working on, 221 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,511 cos it is a little absurd and I thought: 222 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:18,040 "Well, OK, let's film this and hope everybody likes it." 223 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,033 (speaks German) 224 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,670 (commentator) "I will never tell you. You'll never find her." 225 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,009 I love the teaser for "Eine Kleine Frohike", 226 00:13:28,021 --> 00:13:30,231 harking back to the old Fox Movietone News. 227 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,474 And I love the way our special-effects team, led by Mat Beck, 228 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:41,750 mixed old Movietone footage with this really hi-tech computer animation, 229 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,674 maps and stuff of Europe during the war, that segueways beautifully. 230 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,593 The child's father was this man. 231 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,558 You think Frohike could pass himself off as the son? 232 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,270 And bring the poisoner of Alsace to justice. 233 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,230 Those of us who wrote for the show were geeks in the best sense of the word, 234 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,630 in that... 235 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,272 A geek is someone who's very passionate about a very small area, or minutiae, 236 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,078 whether it's computers or cars, 237 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,152 and I was always a film geek in a lot of ways, 238 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,791 and this was an opportunity for me to bring a lot of influences and play with them. 239 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,679 No, thanks, Ma. I'm not hungry. 240 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,231 You have not eaten a thing since you got here. 241 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,676 This is made special. Just for you. 242 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,755 (John) I'd always been a big fan of the Eating comedies of the late '40s and '50s - 243 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,751 British comedies - Alec Guinness. 244 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Once we started doing The Lone Gunmen, it was something that I kept saying: 245 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,598 "I want to do The Ladykillers." 246 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,150 - Have you got a girl in there? - Pardon me? 247 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,959 (John) For a lot of reasons. It's an undercover story. 248 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,920 It's an undercover mission, and there's so much tension in that, 249 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,231 and from that, so much comic possibilities, in my mind. 250 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,199 Just the character Frohike is such a... 251 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,750 He's driven, he's a little bit of a curmudgeon, 252 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,275 and the idea to put him in a situation 253 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,248 where he has to be a fish out of water and 254 00:15:10,260 --> 00:15:13,436 maintain another identity, I knew it'd be fun. 255 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,352 But it was so much fun to do, 256 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,638 and playing with Ruth Manning from New York, who played the old German Frau, 257 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,597 she was just a delight. 258 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,389 She was an absolutely fantastic person to work with. 259 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,151 Is that too hot for you? 260 00:15:27,163 --> 00:15:30,077 It's fine. Could I get a lime privacy here? 261 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,231 The idea was outrageous and foolish, 262 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,676 and the whole idea of making me up to look like her son. 263 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,354 The makeup girls and the costume people had a 264 00:15:38,366 --> 00:15:40,914 lot of fun doing all the different costumes. 265 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,833 It was a fun, fun show. It was great. 266 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,470 Another one of the ideas we had from the get-go about The Lone Gunmen 267 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,224 was that we could be a lot looser in the tone 268 00:15:50,236 --> 00:15:52,794 of the show than The X-Files ever could be. 269 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,474 And so that meant using a lot more source music. 270 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:01,317 There was a music supervisor who found this most eclectic, bizarre, wonderful stuff. 271 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,074 We used a music supervisor named Barklie Griggs, 272 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,686 who would come up with dozens of possibilities 273 00:16:06,698 --> 00:16:08,518 of songs to use for these pieces, 274 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,195 and so we had a great time inserting this music. 275 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,558 And it was sort of an inspiration to me, cos when I heard these pieces, 276 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,517 it made me think, "Boy", 277 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,673 and I knew that Chris Carter and company was going for this stuff. 278 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,814 I knew I could really step out a bit, you know, 279 00:16:25,826 --> 00:16:28,631 out on a limb, and try all kinds of things. 280 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,157 Chris is enormously interested in music, and listens to everything 281 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,393 and is always listening to new music, so he welcomed the chance to do a show 282 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,313 where you could use a lot more contemporary music. 283 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,234 In the episode that he wrote by himself - "Three Men and a Smoking Diaper" - 284 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,994 he specified what all the tracks would be. 285 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,755 He knew exactly what he wanted and wrote for those tracks. 286 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,672 Sometimes Daddy feels ill-equipped to bond with baby. 287 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,434 And that's why we're here today. 288 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,393 Gentlemen, keep those nipples high and proud! 289 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,236 Chris created The X-Files, and he created that feeling of gloom and despair 290 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,630 that we love so much from The X-Files. 291 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,758 The thing to know about Chris - he's really a funny guy, 292 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,550 and that episode is that other side to him that you don't see that much. 293 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,395 A lot of bodily-function jokes. That's the other side to Chris Carter. 294 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,519 - Melvin, you should be ashamed. - (baby starts crying) 295 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,355 How are we supposed to get any work done? How do we publish our paper 296 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,204 and root out graft, corruption and greed for 297 00:17:35,216 --> 00:17:38,118 our readers if we 're changing poop y diapers? 298 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,792 What if this is some kind of government-bred, superintelligent chimp? 299 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,952 I'd heard whispers of this for years. 300 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,032 The military warns a perfect undercover operative. 301 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:54,476 Imagine what spies they'd be. Total access. No one would suspect. 302 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,439 I had the idea for intelligent animals 303 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,673 created by the CIA or the Department of Defense a long time before this, 304 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,593 and I was thinking of a straight thriller. 305 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,469 No one would even know it was murder. It's brilliant. 306 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,756 Except for one small detail. 307 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,549 You can create an intelligent animal, but you can't be assured of its politics. 308 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,678 I always say you can tell chimps are smarter than actors. 309 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,230 The monkey would get it right on the first take, then he'd be bored, 310 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,960 and he couldn't understand why he had to do it again. 311 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,670 So you'd see that. You know, you'd say, "Do this" and he'd do it once, 312 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,833 but we'd have to take it again and he'd think of other things to do. 313 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,117 His trainers would have to work really hard to get him back 314 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,271 to do what he was supposed to be doing. 315 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,351 When they were supposed to be typing, 316 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,035 they would use their strong fingers to pick off the keys and eat them, 317 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:45,715 so they basically just ate our really great laptops. 318 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,838 Working with chimpanzees is not easy, 319 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,070 so we had a very hard time executing that show. 320 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:59,190 I remember there was one shot where they wanted to film all the chimps. 321 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,635 They were all sitting together drawing. 322 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,792 So I said, "Let me sit down with the chimps." 323 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,114 And it kind of reflects my character, you know, very similar to the chimps. 324 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,794 And I was drawing with crayons, 325 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,113 and this chimpanzee reached over and he'd take the crayon from me. 326 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,350 So I'd pick another one. He was like a kid. 327 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,673 Every colour that I drew with, he wanted. He would take it away from me. 328 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:30,109 Chimpanzees don't work well in cold weather. They're not cold-weather animals. 329 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:36,037 I mean, that episode focused mainly and was driven by these chimpanzees. 330 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:40,079 I had a call saying, "The chimpanzees won't work. They won't come out." 331 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,582 (Vince) There's a scene toward the end, on the 332 00:19:42,594 --> 00:19:44,870 bridge, when they're gonna make the switch, 333 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,713 the chimp was gonna go back to his Air Force doctor, 334 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,873 but it was, I hear, bitterly cold, and chimps do not like the cold. 335 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,032 There were special accommodations made for the chimps. 336 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,280 Ladies and gentlemen. 337 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:04,637 Let's get ready to get married. 338 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,839 Hold it. One minute. Hey, hey. Hold it. One minute. 339 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,835 I object. 340 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,231 "Madam, I'm Adam" is one of the craziest hours of TV ever, 341 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,951 and I'm so glad we got to somehow get it past the censors. 342 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,079 (man) At the opening scene there's a shot of Stephen sitting on the toilet, 343 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,959 so you know you're in for quality television when... 344 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,237 You turn on your television and there's a man on the toilet, 345 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,709 it doesn't get any better than this. 346 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,671 The humour in that episode is so evil and nasty and just deliciously bad taste. 347 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,675 I pitched this idea about a man being reprogrammed, who's... he's a bad guy. 348 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,550 He's troubled, and is it right for society to change a person 349 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,838 to make society safer, or do you let the misfits run wild? 350 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,949 It was a takeoff on Clockwork Orange, sort of, somebody who was being reprogrammed. 351 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,955 It became this thing about him arriving at this house, where he thinks he lives, 352 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,716 and the original owner coming in behind him, and it becomes a very funny situation. 353 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,599 What are you doing with your hand? 354 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,991 (screaming) 355 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,875 Tom Schnauz, who has a deliciously perverse sense of humour. 356 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,430 If we worried about Frohike's reaction to "Eine Kleine Frohike", 357 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,558 in which he wore lederhosen and was bathed by an old woman, 358 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,031 we especially worried about his reaction to "Madam, I'm Adam", 359 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:35,511 where Stephen Tobolowsky, who is hilarious, 360 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,231 keeps flashing to a midget wrestler whenever he sees Frohike. 361 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,078 Tom Braidwood is truly a class actor. 362 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,438 He's a guy who put up with a lot of indignities, to say the least, 363 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,956 during the making of the series, and God bless him for it. 364 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:00,513 Cos some of those moments are absolutely the funniest moments in the series. 365 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,034 (police sirens) 366 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:05,582 We shot quite a long sequence of a wrestling 367 00:22:05,594 --> 00:22:08,674 match, that they had to have for video, 368 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,152 and I brought in a stunt guy we have, who was an ex-jockey. 369 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,319 He's the right size for this, and he's pretty tough, 370 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,474 and he went in there with this guy who's actually done some professional wrestling, 371 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,632 and the guy didn't know how to pull a punch 372 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,918 and he was just hammering the living heck out of this poor stunt guy. 373 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,870 We would do a shot, and then we'd talk about it a bit. 374 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,954 Our stunt guy'd come back and he'd go, "This guy's really killing me." 375 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,238 I'd talk to the wrestler again, they'd go back and he'd hammer the heck out of him. 376 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,551 He's just whaling on him and kicking him and jumping on him. 377 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,555 You couldn't get him to back away. It was the toughest day that stunt guy ever had. 378 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,314 My whole life is gone. 379 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,277 There's strangers living in my house. Lois, my wife, I don't know where she is now. 380 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,478 Neighbours, they don't know who I am any more. 381 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,918 He's just a fantastic, funny actor, and he was just the best casting for the role. 382 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,719 I mean, I couldn't imagine a better choice. 383 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,269 Proof of alien contact. 384 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,878 Take a look at this. 385 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,595 I found this in every crevice of my body all over, everywhere. 386 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,958 I got a local hairstyling company who made us 2,000 gallons of blue gel. 387 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,954 It had nothing else in it. It was just a blue gel, a clear, blue gel. 388 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,078 We had to pump it into tanks. We pumped it on the weekend, 389 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,438 and the director, Bryan Spicer, came over on Saturday morning and said: 390 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,036 "I can't see anything. You gotta change it." 391 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,492 We worked all weekend, and we got this big 392 00:23:46,504 --> 00:23:49,115 truck, we had to suck it out, except one tank, 393 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,431 and filled it with blue water, so he could see the people in it. 394 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,558 What we didn't know was when you'd got 200 gallons of it, 395 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,234 you couldn't see anything, so we just changed it. 396 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,391 The only time we used the actual gel 397 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,800 was when we saw him climbing in and going 398 00:24:02,812 --> 00:24:05,429 into the bottom, but the rest of it was water. 399 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,270 I guess this looks bad. 400 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,151 We found a house, that they were gonna tear down, that we could cut the front off of. 401 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,189 So that house was about to be demolished and the locations guy found it perfectly, 402 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,716 so that we could just shear off the whole front and it comes down. 403 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,919 We only had one take to do that, of course, as you can well imagine. 404 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,115 Did you let him see your face? 405 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,760 Here he comes. 406 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,396 Whoa. What's he doing? 407 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,552 "Diagnosis, Jimmy", as in Diagnosis: Murder. 408 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,314 It didn't hurt that it was gonna save us some money. 409 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,712 It had some very clear James-Bondian elements in the ski chase. 410 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,315 We were looking to give Steve Snedden more 411 00:24:58,327 --> 00:25:01,034 of a showcase episode, to really feature him. 412 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,909 He didn't see me. There must be something else. 413 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,593 I'll find out what. 414 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,149 We got to go up in Vancouver, up on the mountain, 415 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,914 filmed two days in the snow, which was a challenge. 416 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,310 I'd never shot in the snow before. It was fun. 417 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,391 (man) Action. 418 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,840 Did that work? 419 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,676 (Vince) They shot the skiing scenes up in Whistler, up north of Vancouver. 420 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:30,153 I think it was one of those situations where we wrote Jimmy and Yves skiing 421 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,834 before we ever asked the two actors, 422 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,278 Zuleikha or Stephen Snedden, whether or not they could ski. 423 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:40,432 The scene where I ski into the tree... 424 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,033 Of course, I just kind of ski a couple feet and then they put in someone and he skis, 425 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:50,317 and there's a rope that yanks him back. 426 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,311 I was blown away. I kept thinking, 427 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,836 if he just leaned forward too far he'd hit himself on the nose. 428 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,238 Jimmy had a ski accident and ended up in the hospital. 429 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,914 - You going to be all right? - Yeah, sure. 430 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,469 (John) It's a challenge when a character's immobile, 431 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,155 and I kept, again, going back to what inspires me. 432 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,757 I kept watching Rear Window, and thinking, "How do you solve this problem?" 433 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:19,472 A lot of it is what he sees and reacts to, even though he can't move, and hears. 434 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,554 And so we tried to build set pieces around what he sees on TV, 435 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,713 his suspicions of the doctor, what he hears from the next bed with the old man, 436 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,792 who may or may not be the victim, etcetera. 437 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,556 The toughest part was actually that they put me in a real cast. 438 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,109 So I would have to show up, put a cast on, 439 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,433 and then they would saw the cast off and do the same thing the next day. 440 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,229 Say something. Testing, one, two, three. 441 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,675 (Skinner's voice) Testing, one, two, three. 442 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,119 This is Walter freakin' Skinner of the FBI, and I am going to prison, big time. 443 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,750 "The Lying Game" was a fun one because we worked with Mitch Pileggi, 444 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,434 and it was so much fun to have him in that episode. 445 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,160 Mr Skinner, would you explain what is going on? 446 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,359 You are interfering with an FBI sting operation. That's what's going on. 447 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,670 You put an undercover operative in danger. 448 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,639 At Ten Thirteen we'd always been against crossovers. 449 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,189 We resisted them throughout Millennium. 450 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,590 They'd been suggested and we never did one. 451 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,231 Only after Millennium ended did we bring over Lance Henriksen to The X-Files. 452 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,516 With Lone Gunmen we felt differently. 453 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,151 We thought crossovers would be fun, because it's comedy, it's a different genre. 454 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,550 So. 455 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,395 What's on for tonight? Who do we... 456 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,275 What evil deeds are afoot? 457 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:42,354 It was so good to see Mitch get to be 458 00:27:42,366 --> 00:27:44,752 funny, because Mitch in person is hilarious. 459 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,710 He's absolutely not Assistant Director Skinner. 460 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,271 Ara, buddy. Come on, will you... Ow! Ow, ow, ow. OK, that hurt. 461 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:58,672 He's playing me playing him. 462 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,400 The funny thing was Mitch is such a nice guy, 463 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,154 and he watched tapes of me and my performances. 464 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,394 - Can I get anybody anything? - Yeah, what the hey. I'll have a... 465 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,074 A Cuba libre. 466 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,596 Uh... Pretty cool, huh? 467 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,435 We had Mitch, who's a trouper, a really great guy to work with. 468 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,673 We lined him up and we shot him with and without a terrible mask, 469 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,434 and then in order to make the sequence work, 470 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,832 we actually had to take footage of him performing 471 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,878 and track it onto a computer-generated face, 472 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,952 so that we had control over the surfaces, 473 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,352 and that allowed him to actually deliver a line, 474 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,592 and then have his mouth pull off and deliver a line again. 475 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,231 Frohike, the radar composite is in the CD. Get that CD. 476 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,312 I had this idea about them going undercover and something to do with dance, 477 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,429 and I seem to remember pitching it being in a disco, 478 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,673 and luckily Frank Spotnitz said, "Tango". 479 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,640 (Frank) The tango episode is one of my favourites, 480 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,749 because it gave Zuleikha Robinson so much to do - I know she loved doing it- 481 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,400 and because it got to deepen the romance 482 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,472 between her and Jimmy Bond - Steve Snedden's character. 483 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,870 The tango is such a beautiful dance, 484 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:35,592 and, you know, for Yves's character to actually do something normal... 485 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,560 I think, for me, that was the best part about the whole show. 486 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,793 The guy they cast to play opposite me was a fantastic dancer. 487 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,520 He was a salsa dancer. He was John Vargas. 488 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,676 It was very challenging because we really didn't have much time to learn this dance. 489 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,037 Had to learn how to do an Elvis impersonation pretty quick. 490 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,557 Then I had to learn how to tango dance - two or three lessons. 491 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,077 I had a great partner, great people teaching, and out of necessity, you learn. 492 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,272 But that frightened me, cos I'm not much of 493 00:30:09,284 --> 00:30:12,554 a dancer, especially, I'd never tango danced. 494 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,916 We had to spend hours learning to tango, 495 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,234 for what was a 30-second opening bit, or something like that. 496 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,915 I'm a terrible dancer, and I hated learning how to tango. 497 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,949 The woman I danced with in the teaser was the one who taught me. She was really good. 498 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,240 It was nice, because all I had to do was the basic moves and she'd dance around me. 499 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,039 This crash course on learning how to dance. 500 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,717 Once the guys learned that really in the tango the woman does all the work 501 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,792 and you just stand there like an idiot and look good. 502 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,157 Depending on how good she dances, that's how good you look. 503 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,312 I don't want to brag, but that was me doing the splits. 504 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,480 Arghg! 505 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,074 I have a bit of dance training in my background. 506 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,280 Not that you can tell from that shot, but I did four years of modern dance 507 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,752 and three years of ballet, as a double major with my theatre degree. 508 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,959 So when they said, "Oh, just make up any sort of dancing you want", 509 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,910 that is the result of thousands of dollars of tuition. 510 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,430 (in Spanish) 511 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,937 One of the funny ideas of that script was 512 00:31:23,949 --> 00:31:26,674 that Frohike was this incredible tango dancer, 513 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,912 and that he had this very hot Latin lover that he'd abandoned 514 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,470 and he had to go back and pick up the mantle again, 515 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,313 which was just hilarious. 516 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,956 The idea that Frohike had had this deep, platonic relationship with this woman 517 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,954 was kinda fun to work on, you know, it was enjoyable. 518 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,829 (in Spanish) 519 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,073 It just thematically was the perfect choice for an episode, 520 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,278 because it's all about loneliness and isolation, 521 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,389 and these characters - Yves and the gunmen themselves - they're lonely characters. 522 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,279 That's why the episode is so sad in the end. 523 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,830 Yves and Santavos - two lonely characters - make a connection, 524 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,278 but Yves is doing it to get to another end, 525 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,558 but she ultimately has romantic feelings for Santavos. 526 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,057 So that's what makes it really sad in the end, 527 00:32:22,069 --> 00:32:24,871 when he takes a knife in the back for her. 528 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,517 (Vince) Bryan Spicer, our linchpin producer/director, 529 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,197 who directed most of the Lone Gunmen episodes, 530 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,840 every time we'd do one, he'd outdo himself. 531 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,391 But that one in particular, the tango-contest sequence at the end, 532 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,869 I think he had half a day to shoot it. 533 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,839 We only have seven days of prep and eight days to shoot, 534 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,675 and the script was changing as we were going, and it was challenging. 535 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,479 But we learned a lot about tango and dancing, 536 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,350 and we were able to utilise the camera movement and make it sexy and make it flow 537 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,080 and make it a really neat piece. 538 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,030 I got choked up every time I watched the final dance with her and Steve Snedden. 539 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,398 I actually lost an argument about that, because originally it was scripted 540 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,868 that he gets to dance with her at the end, 541 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,395 and she's heartbroken about what's happened. 542 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,474 And they dance, and it's a nice moment, and then he stumbles - ever the klutz. 543 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,951 And I was insistent that we had to preserve 544 00:33:21,963 --> 00:33:24,589 that stumble, and they didn't want to shoot it. 545 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,038 They really wanted to preserve the niceness of that moment, but they shot it for me, 546 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,636 and I saw both of them and I realised that they were right. 547 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,356 With Jimmy Bond, there was a lot of jealousy 548 00:33:36,368 --> 00:33:39,353 about Yves falling for someone else. 549 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,831 Then the tragedy at the end. 550 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,632 But it was a great episode and I felt like we were really getting into our groove. 551 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,590 We were really figuring out what we wanted to do 552 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,629 and how we wanted to continue the show and approach things. 553 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,112 (Vince) Our strongest episode is "Al| About Yves" - 554 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,431 the one that should have ended the series. 555 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,437 See that it gets to Agent Mulder. 556 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,479 "Al| About Yves" was kind of the beginning about "Al| About Yves", 557 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,029 and we never really got into it that much. 558 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:22,399 We find out that she has a father and he's this kind of ominous presence. 559 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,915 What about Romeo 61? 560 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,435 Someone who's been looking for me for quite some time now. 561 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,150 Which means if we can't track down Byers, Frohike and Langly... 562 00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:32,560 They'll kill them. 563 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,031 It took a while for the character to find itself. 564 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,990 At first, she was simply just a nemesis, a very pretty nemesis, 565 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,153 which was counterpoint to us rough-and-tumble guys, 566 00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:49,996 but then she grew and became an interesting character. 567 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,759 But, hey, you know, I'm not the hardware guy. 568 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,195 Tell us everything. 569 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,271 (yells) 570 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,556 (screams) 571 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,635 They made these little appliances, and it's basically just thin rubber around here 572 00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:11,953 with little nodes to attach the fishing-line stuff with. 573 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,835 We're betting that you need us. 574 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,752 Oh? And why's that? 575 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,116 Romeo 61. 576 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,959 (Byers) You're soared of it, aren't you? 577 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,112 (Il/lichael) The lone gunmen were growing when it was cancelled. 578 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,430 They were becoming more and more defined. 579 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,229 We felt like we found our groove and that the show was really working. 580 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,793 The ratings were acceptable and good and as good as X-Files in the early days. 581 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,557 (Frank) We wanted to give The Lone Gunmen a big finish, 582 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,519 and we knew that we'd sort of let down our fans 583 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,592 by ending the Lone Gunmen series with a "to be continued". 584 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,275 And there was a tremendous battle royal with the studio 585 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,239 about bringing The Lone Gunmen back at all. 586 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,556 (Frank) And then what we attempted to do 587 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,396 was blend them into the fabric of The X-Files at that point, which was not easy. 588 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,040 (Bruce) It was the ninth season of X-Files, 589 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,274 they wanted to finish everything off and they wanted close that loophole, 590 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,478 so they did an episode called "Jump the Shark", 591 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,153 where they kind of tied up the loose threads of the Lone Gunmen series 592 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:24,358 in an X-Files sort of way. 593 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,559 They brought back Morris Fletcher to kind of tie it all in, 594 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,555 and Zuleikha and Stephen, and sort of wrote an end to the series. 595 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,873 The decision to kill them off was made because we didn't want to dishonour them 596 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,951 with sort of a tepid ending. 597 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,475 It was their last appearance in the series. 598 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,519 We didn't know if there'd be any life for The X-Files beyond that season, 599 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,538 so we wanted to give them a proper heroes' 600 00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:52,710 exit, and that's why we decided to kill them. 601 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,192 I felt like it would be the ultimate tribute to these unsung heroes, 602 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,910 in that, if these guys really are the guys who are saving the world, 603 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,551 and they're willing to sacrifice themselves, there's nothing more heroic. 604 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,438 Guys? 605 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,478 (alarm bell) 606 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,670 I was actually quite thankful that we got an awesome death scene, 607 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,513 cos, you know, if we didn't it would just be: 608 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,514 "Oh, the gunmen walk off into the sunset with a stick and a hobo bag." 609 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,436 That would have been a lame sendoff, so it was something heroic and phenomenal, 610 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,672 but as you know, in science fiction no one is ever dead. 611 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,550 I mean, level-five quarantine coffins are supposed to be fitted to the person. 612 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,551 All the coffins are the same size. 613 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,792 One of the gunmen is shorter than the others. Huh? 614 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,269 Maybe our bodies aren't in those things. 615 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,716 With purest intentions, we wanted them to go out on a high note, 616 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,155 we wanted them to be recognised as heroes, 617 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:56,374 and that ending with them being buried in 618 00:37:56,386 --> 00:37:59,839 Arlington, you know, heroes, national heroes, 619 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,835 was a high point, but very bittersweet as well. 620 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,556 I think it was the right thing to do. We tied 621 00:38:07,568 --> 00:38:10,393 up some loose ends in the final X-Files episode. 622 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,629 Why risk your lives? 623 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:15,714 - Because I need to know the truth. - You already know the truth. 624 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,474 We have been very blessed, both with The X-Files and with Lone Gunmen 625 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,872 to have very loyal, smart, supportive fans. 626 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,999 And the fans of Lone Gunmen have been particularly vocal and active, 627 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,675 and loved these characters and supported the show when it was on. 628 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,512 We're right there with them. 629 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,838 We would have loved to have brought it back, 630 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:41,151 and still would, if there was a way to do it. 631 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:44,312 - When we started it was a day player. - We were day players. 632 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,199 And what did we get? Nine years and a spin-off. 633 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,117 - We're the luckiest day players around. - Ready for that next day-player role. 634 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,999 - We are a bit of a fairy tale come true. - Yeah. 635 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,271 - Including the frog prince and everything. - Yeah. 636 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,319 - It has been fun. - Yeah, fun. That's the word. 637 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,311 - Well, that's it. - Thank you. 638 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,791 English SDH 60340

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