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Tonight on
The Curse of Oak Island...
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Welcome to Fort Point Museum.
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We brought a few artifacts.
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Do you think that
the Knights of Malta
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- would've used beads like that?
- Yes. They may well have
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visited Oak Island.
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This is the kind of loose slurry
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of mud that we were looking for.
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That speaks to a chamber.
Or the offset chamber.
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That's where treasure can hide.
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We're all extremely interested
in the Lot 8 feature.
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We need to see
what's under that rock.
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- Wait, do you see that?
- Oh, my god, there's a pearl.
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There is an island
in the North Atlantic
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where people
have been looking for
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an incredible treasure
for more than 200 years.
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So far, they have found
a stone slab
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with strange symbols
carved into it,
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man-made workings
that date to medieval times,
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and a lead cross
whose origin may be connected
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to the Knights Templar.
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To date, six men have died
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trying to solve the mystery.
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And according to legend,
one more will have to die
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before the treasure
can be found.
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Morning, guys.
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- Hey.
- How are you?
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As Rick Lagina
and members of the team
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begin a new day of investigation
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on Oak Island,
they have gathered
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in the war room regarding
a recent and potentially
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game-changing discovery.
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I think it's an understatement
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to say that we're all
extremely interested
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in what the Lot 8 feature
might represent.
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Right now,
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none of us can say
definitively what this is,
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and thus, my thought is
that it absolutely
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was built by the hand of man.
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There is a huge
human interface factor here.
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It's unquestionable.
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Definitely been altered
by humans, and not by
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any humans that we're aware of.
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I agree.
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So, this is what
I wanted to show you.
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Two weeks ago,
Laird Niven noticed
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a massive boulder on Lot 8 near
several partially buried rocks
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that looked like someone
may have set them in place.
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As the team dug,
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they uncovered more buried
rocks in front of the boulder.
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I find that strange.
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But then Rick noticed
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it was being held in place
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by a series
of evenly spaced stones.
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Whoa, you're going
deep. -[Isabelle] Yeah.
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You got a big void down there.
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Fiona Steele then
began to remove disturbed soil,
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exposing a tight
but open void beneath it.
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There's definitely
a void that I'm following.
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The team inserted a
snake camera under the boulder,
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but were unable to tell
if something was hidden below.
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We've tried the camera.
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- Laird now has the footage.
- All right.
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Let's watch
for some shiny gold things.
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Here we go.
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- That's a nice shot.
- Yeah, that's...
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a lot of different
materials under there.
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What is that linear thing?
Right above the rock.
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This?
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- That, right there.
- Yeah, that.
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Yeah.
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It's right up against
the rock. -[Alex] Yeah.
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- Just at the top of the screen.
- Yeah.
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On the side, there. Right there.
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Yeah, yeah. Huh.
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Can you stop it there?
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Whoa.
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It's linear, that's for sure.
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Yeah.
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Does that not look like
an iron spike? -Yeah.
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Yeah, it could be
an iron fastener of some kind.
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Yeah.
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It's blue.
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But they can oxidize
blue sometimes, can't they?
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- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah, they can.
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And that's
consistent with being
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low oxygen under a boulder.
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Is there enough oxygen
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in there for wood to decay?
You know,
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I'm thinking, what if
there was a wood structure
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under there and the spike
is all that remains?
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I mean, Nova Scotia soils
are very acidic.
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It's just not great
for preserving wood.
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Right. So, it could be
that the wood is gone and that's
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- all that's left.
- Yeah.
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That's how that
spike could get there.
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- It's one way.
- Could be.
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If the team
is actually seeing
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an iron spike beneath
the massive boulder,
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could Alex be correct
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that it was once
a part of a wooden structure?
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If so, what kind
of structure was it,
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and what else
might be down there?
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What are the chances that we
lift this boulder and move it?
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I think it's
worth doing if we can.
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The question is if we can.
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- Yeah.
- Oh.
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I'm on the fence with that one.
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I'm-I'm just worried
because if this is a really
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special, special place,
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or if it ends, if it ends up
being a really special find,
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we just have to watch
the integrity of it all.
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What kind of special site
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would we be talking
about, potentially?
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Well...
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We are searching for treasure
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on an island famous
for treasure.
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How about
some treasure under there?
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I agree. I agree.
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The Lot 8 boulder feature
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is one of the most perplexing
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archaeological sites
I've worked on.
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We have to take our time.
We have to do things correctly
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before we can get down there
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and see exactly what's under it.
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This boulder is so unusual that
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I have no expectations
about what's under there.
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I am prepared for nothing,
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and I am prepared
for something spectacular.
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My takeaway here is we need
to see what's under that rock
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one way or another.
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I'd be a proponent
of lifting it if we can
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think of a way to do it.
We didn't come out here
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to find the most
interesting site on the island
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and then not investigate it.
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And so, if we can't think
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of a way to get the material
out from under it
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that gives us all
the information of raising it,
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then I think
we need to raise it.
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But I'm totally fine,
and I completely
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understand wanting
to try every alternative first
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because you don't want
to destroy something
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that's potentially very
significant. -[Laird] Exactly.
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Correct. -[Fiona] I think
we can get underneath it
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without lifting this boulder.
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I mean, I've been
working down low.
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I can see where the rocks are.
I can see where
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the soil is settled in front.
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I know we have to
be safe about it though.
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I was going to say, you're
not going under the boulder.
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Right now, is there
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a part of me that says,
"Come on, let's just go lift it.
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Let's all grab shovels and
dig it up." A hundred percent.
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Of course we want answers.
Of course we want to find
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something under probably
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one of the most
singularly unique
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finds on the island
to date. Right?
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But we don't want a "Oh, if only
we hadn't done that" moment.
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- At least not yet.
- Right.
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- We have to do it safely.
- A hundred percent.
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I think I understand
where my brother's coming from.
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I look at it, and I say
this rock is very important,
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we need to see what's under it.
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And I don't
want to wait to do that,
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I want to lift
this rock tomorrow.
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Rick looks at it
and says this rock
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is very important,
same conclusion,
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but it's so important I want
to be careful about moving it.
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It's just
a difference of approach,
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but it stems from
the same realization:
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This is an important feature.
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I'd say, likely,
there's something
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interesting under that rock,
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perhaps even treasure.
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So, we can move forward
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to try to further
our understanding
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what this discovery represents.
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- Perfect.
- We've got a good plan.
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I think we're
on the right track.
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- Yeah.
- Okay, so to that end,
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I think we've all
got work to do,
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so let's go try to find
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something else mysterious
about this place. Okay.
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- All right.
- Let's go.
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See you, Craig.
See you, Jack.
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- See you, guys.
- While the meeting
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concludes in the war room...
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CN-12.5, Charles.
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Here we are trying to put
another hole in the Peacock,
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- trying to nail this down.
- Oh, I like the location.
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...in the Money Pit area...
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There's a big opening
down there and we're gonna see
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- if we can find it.
- Yeah.
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...the team
is drilling borehole CN-12.5
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in the Peacock,
eight feet northwest
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of borehole BN-13.5.
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Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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It was there
three weeks ago
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that while targeting
the solution channel
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some 170 feet deep, the drill
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entered a ten-foot void
at just 148 feet.
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We've got an opening.
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One that
yielded sonar images
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of a possible opening
to a much larger chamber,
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and underwater camera images
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of potential metallic objects.
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I've always believed
in the offset chamber
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because it makes sense
engineering-wise.
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Right.
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This has made the team speculate
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that they may have hit
an offset treasure chamber
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connected by a tunnel
to the original Money Pit.
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Now, they hope
to find out for sure
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in borehole CN-12.5.
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I mean, the core of
the Peacock is a slushy
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slurry of mud and water.
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You get that as you get further
down into the solution channel.
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That's a lot of open,
loose material.
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You know what it
tells me, Terry?
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That's where a coin or
a jewel or something can hide.
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Sounds good to me.
Hopefully, we come up
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with a few pieces of it today.
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Wouldn't that be sweet?
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As drilling continues
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in the Money Pit area...
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...and while the investigation
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beneath the boulder
proceeds on Lot 8...
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Another bucket
of opportunities. -[Rick] Yep.
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...Rick, Craig
and other members of the team
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dig on Tom Nolan's property
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in the northernmost region
of the swamp.
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All right, let's get stuck in.
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They are continuing
to search for more sections
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of a cobblestone pathway
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that might be connected
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to other stone features
recently uncovered
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on the western side
of the swamp,
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as well as an empty
brick and slate vault
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that was found nearby in 2024.
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- There's...
- Oh, yeah.
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...this right there.
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Oh, wow.
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This has got a nice
pattern on it. Both sides.
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See that pattern, mate?
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Yeah.
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What I like about this is
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this piece has come out
of the darker layer,
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meaning it's from
a deeper depth.
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So, it has
the potential to be older.
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Well, I'll put this
in a separate bag
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'cause this is a nicer piece.
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Okey doke.
256
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Oh.
257
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Check this out.
258
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- Woo-hoo!
- Now, that's pottery.
259
00:11:19,033 --> 00:11:20,433
That's pottery.
Yeah. Good eye, mate.
260
00:11:21,467 --> 00:11:23,800
- That's a piece of earthenware.
- Yep.
261
00:11:23,967 --> 00:11:25,667
Good eye, Rick.
262
00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,767
Oh, wow. Look at this, Gary.
263
00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:40,333
- Gary, look at this.
- What? What is it?
264
00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:42,867
Oh, yeah,
a lot of pottery in that one.
265
00:11:45,166 --> 00:11:48,367
All this. All that. All this.
266
00:11:48,533 --> 00:11:50,100
Yeah, there's a lot
267
00:11:50,233 --> 00:11:51,934
- of pottery here, mate.
- There's a lot of pottery.
268
00:11:53,066 --> 00:11:55,867
Look at this, it's everywhere.
269
00:11:56,033 --> 00:11:57,934
Yeah, this is the, uh,
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mother lode when it comes
to pottery shards.
271
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We have found bags and
bags of pottery in this dig.
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If we can get a date on it,
you've got a chance
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to track down
who was working in the area.
274
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Hey, Gary and Rick.
275
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Finding a lot of pottery.
276
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So are we.
277
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It almost looks
like three different types.
278
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We're probably dealing
with the same situation here.
279
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That last bucket, a heck
of a lot of pottery in it.
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- Okay.
- We're in a good area.
281
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We should get Laird down here.
282
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Okey doke.
283
00:12:37,567 --> 00:12:39,000
That's a big pile
of dirt. -A heck of a lot
284
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- of pottery.
- Really?
285
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Unbelievable amount of pottery.
We'll show you.
286
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In the northern
region of the swamp...
287
00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,700
Hey, Craig. Tom.
288
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Can you come over?
289
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- Yep.
- Okay.
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00:12:49,967 --> 00:12:51,934
...Laird
joins the team to examine
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their large collection
of new discoveries.
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That's a lot of,
a lot of ceramics.
293
00:12:56,867 --> 00:12:58,767
Yep, but you are
the pottery expert, mate.
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We figured you would be able
295
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to tell us
if we've got any older pieces
296
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- in these bags.
- Yeah.
297
00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,633
These are transfer printed, uh,
298
00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,834
pearlware, refined earthenware.
299
00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,900
- 1840s kind of...
- Yeah.
300
00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:14,333
...era.
301
00:13:14,467 --> 00:13:16,266
And we did get some nice pieces
302
00:13:16,433 --> 00:13:17,767
of earthenware there
in the second bag.
303
00:13:17,967 --> 00:13:19,233
In there?
Oh, coarse earthenware,
304
00:13:19,333 --> 00:13:21,066
- the red one. Redware.
- Yeah. Mm-hmm.
305
00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,633
The redwares are what
we're really interested in.
306
00:13:23,834 --> 00:13:25,967
Eh, this is unusual.
It's got a glaze
307
00:13:26,133 --> 00:13:27,333
- on one side and...
- Yeah.
308
00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:29,066
...nothing on the other.
309
00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,166
- More cruder.
- Yeah.
310
00:13:31,333 --> 00:13:33,333
Doesn't that normally
mean an older piece
311
00:13:33,533 --> 00:13:34,800
when it's cruder?
312
00:13:34,967 --> 00:13:36,567
Yes. I mean, this could be
313
00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:39,633
North Devon gravel ware,
314
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which is old.
And the gravel's
315
00:13:42,433 --> 00:13:44,100
referring to
a lot of grit in there,
316
00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:46,300
which could be a good marker.
317
00:13:46,467 --> 00:13:49,433
- How old is that?
- Oh, 1600s to 1700s.
318
00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,934
Wow.
319
00:13:51,133 --> 00:13:52,400
Amazing, the littlest pieces
320
00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:53,834
always are the most intriguing.
321
00:13:54,033 --> 00:13:56,000
- Right?
- 1600s? I love those dates
322
00:13:56,166 --> 00:13:58,000
because that makes me think
323
00:13:58,166 --> 00:13:59,567
about Isaac de Razilly
324
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and the Knights of Malta.
325
00:14:02,033 --> 00:14:03,967
So that connection,
I'd love to make stronger.
326
00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:06,133
That'd be pretty significant.
327
00:14:09,433 --> 00:14:11,200
After finding several buttons,
328
00:14:11,367 --> 00:14:13,333
a folded coin
329
00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:16,367
and Venetian trade beads
on Lot 5
330
00:14:16,567 --> 00:14:18,700
that may be connected
331
00:14:18,867 --> 00:14:20,967
to the 17th-century
Templar-related order
332
00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:23,467
known as the Knights of Malta...
333
00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,567
Rick, Marty and the team
have been researching
334
00:14:26,734 --> 00:14:28,367
Isaac de Razilly,
335
00:14:28,533 --> 00:14:32,967
a prominent member of
the order who, in 1632,
336
00:14:33,166 --> 00:14:35,467
built a stronghold in LaHave
337
00:14:35,567 --> 00:14:37,967
just 15 miles
south of Oak Island,
338
00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:40,967
which is now known
as Fort Point.
339
00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:46,000
What I found very
interesting is two documents.
340
00:14:46,166 --> 00:14:47,967
And, just one week ago,
341
00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:51,000
Emiliano Sacchetti
provided the team
342
00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:54,734
with a 17th-century inventory
of de Razilly's
343
00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:57,133
personal property that went
missing after his death
344
00:14:57,266 --> 00:14:59,000
in 1636.
345
00:14:59,166 --> 00:15:01,633
We have
a copper astrolabe,
346
00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,433
we have two flintlock muskets
347
00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,400
and two leather-covered chests.
348
00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,700
That's the piece with
the best hope of being old.
349
00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,700
Could Gary be correct,
350
00:15:11,834 --> 00:15:14,600
that the team has possibly
found important clues
351
00:15:14,767 --> 00:15:16,367
that may help identify
352
00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:19,533
who was connected
to the Oak Island mystery?
353
00:15:19,667 --> 00:15:21,467
You know, the thing for me is,
354
00:15:21,633 --> 00:15:23,233
we always talk about how
355
00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,900
we need to have
corroborative evidence.
356
00:15:26,066 --> 00:15:28,100
- Yeah.
- You know, or complimentary
357
00:15:28,266 --> 00:15:29,533
evidence, if you will.
358
00:15:29,667 --> 00:15:31,133
If we can reach out to
359
00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:34,066
Fort Point, which is
where Isaac de Razilly was.
360
00:15:34,233 --> 00:15:37,600
Whatever we think we can get
complimentary evidence to,
361
00:15:37,767 --> 00:15:39,934
- we should bring.
- Yeah.
362
00:15:40,934 --> 00:15:42,533
Can we use the artifacts
363
00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:45,567
we have found
to possibly connect
364
00:15:45,734 --> 00:15:48,633
de Razilly to...
to some efforts here?
365
00:15:48,767 --> 00:15:50,633
I can take all that stuff back,
366
00:15:50,767 --> 00:15:52,567
- if you'd like and...
- Okay. Yeah. Please.
367
00:15:52,667 --> 00:15:54,467
...start the cleaning process.
368
00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,734
Or the fact that he may
have known of some efforts here
369
00:15:56,900 --> 00:15:58,734
prior to coming to Nova Scotia?
370
00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:00,834
- I'll take these.
- I think we need
371
00:16:01,033 --> 00:16:02,467
to redouble our efforts
372
00:16:02,633 --> 00:16:04,834
looking into
that possibility further.
373
00:16:05,033 --> 00:16:07,266
Okey doke. And we will
continue the work here.
374
00:16:07,367 --> 00:16:08,633
- Okay.
- Sounds good.
375
00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,266
- Thanks, Laird.
- Let 'er rip, Al.
376
00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,834
I got a signal, Rick.
377
00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,600
And it's right there.
378
00:16:58,633 --> 00:17:01,166
More of a larger signal.
Here we go.
379
00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:03,000
What have we got here?
380
00:17:04,367 --> 00:17:06,100
I haven't
the foggiest what that is.
381
00:17:06,266 --> 00:17:08,600
- No.
- That's what I love about
382
00:17:08,767 --> 00:17:10,400
our little trips
to the lab, mate.
383
00:17:10,567 --> 00:17:13,667
Let's see if we can
get any crud off it.
384
00:17:13,767 --> 00:17:15,066
That-That's something.
385
00:17:15,266 --> 00:17:17,667
This has got a curve to it.
386
00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,867
It's iron and really heavy,
387
00:17:20,033 --> 00:17:23,367
and it has got
an old feel about it to me.
388
00:17:23,533 --> 00:17:25,767
'Cause it's
something well-constructed.
389
00:17:25,967 --> 00:17:27,367
Yep,
I think it's some sort of
390
00:17:27,467 --> 00:17:29,066
lifting-lifting device,
and I think
391
00:17:29,233 --> 00:17:32,166
there was a ring here,
and this is...
392
00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:34,233
this is right where
your attachment point is.
393
00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,767
We're both on
the same page, mate.
394
00:17:37,934 --> 00:17:40,033
We both think this has
something to do with lifting
395
00:17:40,133 --> 00:17:42,066
or hauling.
It could be a shackle
396
00:17:42,233 --> 00:17:43,767
or it could be a hook.
397
00:17:43,934 --> 00:17:46,667
We did find that mystery vault
398
00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,934
- a few yards that way, mate.
- Mm-hmm.
399
00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:51,033
You never know,
this could've been used
400
00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,166
for lifting
and placing something
401
00:17:53,367 --> 00:17:55,100
- in another vault...
- Right here.
402
00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:56,567
- ...not too far away from us.
- Yep.
403
00:17:56,700 --> 00:17:58,266
We know that path we discovered
404
00:17:58,433 --> 00:18:00,567
is leading this way
towards the vault.
405
00:18:00,667 --> 00:18:02,166
If it is any sort
of lifting device,
406
00:18:02,333 --> 00:18:03,600
it means that something
407
00:18:03,767 --> 00:18:06,667
- heavy was lifted in this area.
- Yeah.
408
00:18:06,834 --> 00:18:09,433
We have pottery
that might suggest
409
00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,467
dates as early as the 1600s.
410
00:18:11,633 --> 00:18:14,266
And now we have this tool.
411
00:18:14,367 --> 00:18:18,100
It could have been used
for lifting something heavy.
412
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,934
Well, this area is interesting,
413
00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:22,767
uh... for all kinds of reasons.
414
00:18:22,934 --> 00:18:27,266
There is some story
being written here.
415
00:18:27,433 --> 00:18:29,967
But I would love to
see other artifacts found,
416
00:18:30,133 --> 00:18:31,934
perhaps even another vault.
417
00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:34,567
The hope is that
it resides here.
418
00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:37,333
But we'll find answers
about this back at the lab.
419
00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:39,133
- Yep. Yep.
- I'll put it in the bag.
420
00:18:39,333 --> 00:18:41,333
Okay. Game on.
421
00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:44,333
As the investigation
in the swamp continues...
422
00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:46,266
You guys need a hand?
423
00:18:46,433 --> 00:18:47,800
Hold on.
424
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,333
Whoa.
425
00:18:49,467 --> 00:18:51,266
...in the Money Pit area,
426
00:18:51,367 --> 00:18:54,934
borehole CN-12.5
has reached a depth
427
00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:58,433
of nearly 140 feet
in the Peacock.
428
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,333
Great stuff.
429
00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,367
This material right
from here to there
430
00:19:03,533 --> 00:19:05,734
is, uh, 138 to 168.
431
00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:07,133
30 feet of drilling.
We only got
432
00:19:07,266 --> 00:19:09,333
- about 12 feet of core back.
- Yeah.
433
00:19:09,533 --> 00:19:10,800
But that, we've seen in the past
434
00:19:10,934 --> 00:19:12,867
in the Peacock.
You drill it 20 feet,
435
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,300
maybe you get five, maybe
you get six feet of-of core.
436
00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:17,166
Very interesting.
Very interesting stuff.
437
00:19:17,367 --> 00:19:19,000
Let's have a look.
438
00:19:20,066 --> 00:19:22,133
This is the kind
of loose slurry of mud
439
00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:24,300
- that we were looking for.
- Yeah.
440
00:19:24,433 --> 00:19:26,400
This is
the cakey material
441
00:19:26,567 --> 00:19:28,133
that stayed in the core barrel.
442
00:19:28,266 --> 00:19:30,633
We got a whole 15 feet
that didn't even come up
443
00:19:30,767 --> 00:19:33,066
because it's a washed-out,
slushy slurry down below.
444
00:19:33,233 --> 00:19:35,800
That's where treasure can hide.
445
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,066
That's exactly right.
So, Charles,
446
00:19:38,233 --> 00:19:40,200
for 30 feet of drilling,
we've got 12 feet
447
00:19:40,333 --> 00:19:43,734
of recovery. That speaks to an
opening somewhere in that area.
448
00:19:44,433 --> 00:19:47,033
Perhaps a chamber.
Or the offset chamber.
449
00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:48,367
It's down there, Terry.
450
00:19:53,467 --> 00:19:54,800
That material there,[T.
451
00:19:54,967 --> 00:19:58,734
all the way from about
145 to here,
452
00:19:58,867 --> 00:20:01,400
to about 160,
that's an interesting depth...
453
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,100
- Yeah.
- ...and that speaks to
454
00:20:03,266 --> 00:20:04,834
- an offset chamber.
- Yeah.
455
00:20:04,967 --> 00:20:07,166
In the Money Pit area,
456
00:20:07,367 --> 00:20:10,800
the drilling operation
in borehole CN-12.5
457
00:20:10,967 --> 00:20:14,300
has encountered evidence
of a nearly 20-foot void
458
00:20:14,467 --> 00:20:18,166
approximately 145 feet underground.
459
00:20:20,166 --> 00:20:21,633
Let's just carve the rest
of this up, Charles,
460
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,967
- so you can go over it, maybe...
- I'm gonna go over it with
461
00:20:23,133 --> 00:20:24,600
- the pinpointer.
- Yeah, let me...
462
00:20:24,767 --> 00:20:26,333
- You carve it up first.
- Let me open it up for you
463
00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:28,266
- a little bit.
- Yep.
464
00:20:28,367 --> 00:20:30,233
Is it possible
that the team has discovered
465
00:20:30,367 --> 00:20:32,834
a larger cavern
that could be connected
466
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,467
to the potentially
man-made void they encountered
467
00:20:35,667 --> 00:20:37,300
three weeks ago?
468
00:20:37,467 --> 00:20:40,667
If so, just
what might it contain?
469
00:20:40,834 --> 00:20:43,834
See, this is getting
really blocky down below.
470
00:20:43,967 --> 00:20:45,967
You get that as you get further
down in the solution channel.
471
00:20:46,133 --> 00:20:48,000
And I think this is
the kind of information
472
00:20:48,166 --> 00:20:49,967
that we're looking for that says
473
00:20:50,133 --> 00:20:51,967
there is a connection
between the Peacock
474
00:20:52,133 --> 00:20:54,000
- and the solution channel.
- Yeah.
475
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,100
Now we just
have to follow that void
476
00:20:56,266 --> 00:20:57,834
to the bottom of the solution
channel and hope we encounter
477
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,300
the artifact or the treasure
478
00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:00,900
that's gonna change everything.
479
00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:02,467
It's clear, Terry,
480
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,700
- no metal in this one.
- Right on. All right.
481
00:21:04,867 --> 00:21:06,367
- We'll write it up and move on.
- It's clear.
482
00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:08,367
So that's the 168.
483
00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:10,300
Let's see what they
give us from 168 down.
484
00:21:10,433 --> 00:21:11,900
It's down there, Charles.
485
00:21:12,066 --> 00:21:13,400
It's down there, Terry.
486
00:21:13,567 --> 00:21:14,967
- We just haven't found it yet.
- Yeah.
487
00:21:16,934 --> 00:21:18,233
The following day,
488
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,000
as work continues
on Oak Island...
489
00:21:22,033 --> 00:21:23,367
Well, guys, I'm excited
490
00:21:23,567 --> 00:21:24,834
to go see Fort Point
today because
491
00:21:24,934 --> 00:21:26,200
we have a lot of questions
492
00:21:26,367 --> 00:21:28,400
about Isaac de Razilly
and if he did
493
00:21:28,567 --> 00:21:30,400
go to Oak Island at any point.
494
00:21:30,567 --> 00:21:32,400
...Alex, Peter,
495
00:21:32,567 --> 00:21:35,200
Judi Rudebusch
and Emiliano Sacchetti
496
00:21:35,367 --> 00:21:38,133
are traveling
some 15 miles south
497
00:21:38,266 --> 00:21:40,066
to LaHave, Nova Scotia.
498
00:21:40,233 --> 00:21:42,467
I think Joan
is the perfect person
499
00:21:42,567 --> 00:21:44,066
to answer some of
those questions for us.
500
00:21:44,233 --> 00:21:45,967
I-I'm hoping that
she can give us some
501
00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:47,667
- really good input.
- Yep.
502
00:21:47,834 --> 00:21:49,967
They have arranged to visit
503
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,734
the historic site
known as Fort Point,
504
00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:54,867
which was originally established
505
00:21:55,033 --> 00:21:58,200
as a French stronghold in 1632
506
00:21:58,367 --> 00:22:00,100
by Isaac de Razilly,
507
00:22:00,266 --> 00:22:03,600
a high-ranking member
of the Knights of Malta.
508
00:22:03,767 --> 00:22:06,467
Wow. Beautiful location.
509
00:22:06,633 --> 00:22:08,066
- You can see why they chose it.
- Yeah.
510
00:22:10,166 --> 00:22:11,633
Hello. -
Welcome to Fort Point Museum.
511
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,967
- Thank you.
- Nice to see you.
512
00:22:13,133 --> 00:22:14,700
- Hi there. My name is Alex.
- Hello.
513
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,867
Very nice to meet you.
Joan, right? -Joan, yes.
514
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,967
Joan Dawson
is a local historian
515
00:22:20,166 --> 00:22:23,233
and author who has written
several books on both
516
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,433
the founding of Nova Scotia
and Isaac de Razilly.
517
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,266
We brought
a few artifacts.
518
00:22:28,433 --> 00:22:30,433
Would there be a place
to look at these at all?
519
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,533
Um, yeah, well,
there's a table in there. -Okay.
520
00:22:32,667 --> 00:22:34,633
If you'd like to set them up
there. -[Alex] Sure.
521
00:22:34,834 --> 00:22:36,934
- That'd be great. -Yeah.
- So, we have in this room
522
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:38,867
some of the early information
523
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,467
about Isaac de Razilly.
524
00:22:40,667 --> 00:22:42,934
So if you'd like to have
a look around in this room
525
00:22:43,066 --> 00:22:44,900
and then I'll meet you
in the other room
526
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,700
- and we can take it from there.
- Thank you so much. -Thank you.
527
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:49,533
Rick always talks
about connective tissue
528
00:22:49,667 --> 00:22:51,900
and tying Oak Island
529
00:22:52,066 --> 00:22:53,533
to the potential
treasure depositors
530
00:22:53,667 --> 00:22:55,600
that we're investigating.
531
00:22:55,734 --> 00:22:57,800
These are items
right from the family.
532
00:22:58,834 --> 00:23:00,667
In this case,
we have Isaac de Razilly,
533
00:23:00,834 --> 00:23:02,166
who could be
534
00:23:02,333 --> 00:23:03,767
the connective tissue
between Oak Island
535
00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:05,367
and the Knights of Malta.
536
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,300
So this would've been the kind
of clothes he would've worn
537
00:23:08,467 --> 00:23:10,600
possibly as a member
of the Knights of Malta
538
00:23:10,734 --> 00:23:12,533
- in the 1600s, like it says.
- Yeah.
539
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:15,133
Looks like it may have been red
because of his stature.
540
00:23:15,300 --> 00:23:18,000
Oh, 'cause he was
higher-ranking? -Mm-hmm.
541
00:23:19,033 --> 00:23:21,266
I'd wish we'd find something
similar to that on the island.
542
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,200
- Yeah.
- A Maltese cross.
543
00:23:23,367 --> 00:23:26,200
So that symbol
was in use in the 1600s.
544
00:23:26,367 --> 00:23:28,133
Mm. -So if we find
that symbol on Oak Island,
545
00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:30,667
- then that's a dead giveaway.
- Oh, yeah.
546
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:34,033
Probably a good place
to start would be
547
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,600
what is known
about Isaac de Razilly
548
00:23:36,734 --> 00:23:38,800
during the time
that he was here.
549
00:23:38,967 --> 00:23:40,667
Well, we know
that he had written a document
550
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,467
before coming here
talking about colonization
551
00:23:44,567 --> 00:23:47,100
and how important it was
and how it enhanced
552
00:23:47,233 --> 00:23:50,433
the prestige of France
and the French king.
553
00:23:50,567 --> 00:23:52,600
The king certainly sanctioned
the expedition.
554
00:23:52,734 --> 00:23:56,133
So he came over in 1632.
555
00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:58,133
He organized the community here.
556
00:23:58,233 --> 00:24:01,667
He had a fort built, um,
on the site where we are now.
557
00:24:01,867 --> 00:24:04,400
So he was obviously in charge.
558
00:24:04,567 --> 00:24:06,667
Is it fair to say
he was a wealthy man?
559
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,000
Well, he was, uh, an aristocrat,
560
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,533
and his family were landowners.
561
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:13,367
He would have been
fairly well-off, yes.
562
00:24:13,567 --> 00:24:14,867
Good lifestyle,
563
00:24:14,967 --> 00:24:16,266
which he obviously intended
564
00:24:16,467 --> 00:24:18,367
- to set up here.
- Right.
565
00:24:18,533 --> 00:24:22,066
He was very happy to come here
and to set up this place.
566
00:24:22,266 --> 00:24:26,233
But, um, unfortunately,
Isaac de Razilly died,
567
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,266
and we don't know quite
what caused this,
568
00:24:28,433 --> 00:24:33,100
but it was unexpected
and he died in July of 1636.
569
00:24:33,266 --> 00:24:36,266
Okay. -[Alex] So, Joan,
we're trying to figure out
570
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,266
the connections
Isaac de Razilly had,
571
00:24:38,433 --> 00:24:39,767
you know, to the Oak Island
mystery... -Mm-hmm.
572
00:24:39,934 --> 00:24:41,934
...and the other orders
and powers
573
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,533
that he was associated with,
like France,
574
00:24:43,734 --> 00:24:45,100
the-the Knights of Malta.
575
00:24:45,266 --> 00:24:47,500
You know, he was an enthusiastic
Knight of Malta, yes.
576
00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:51,834
He wrote a letter to the, um,
leader of the Knights of Malta,
577
00:24:51,967 --> 00:24:54,867
um, suggesting that they
should really set up something
578
00:24:55,033 --> 00:24:58,000
like a monastery, um, in, um...
in Nova Scotia.
579
00:24:58,133 --> 00:25:01,233
Well, perhaps there's
a connection to a...
580
00:25:01,433 --> 00:25:03,433
a settlement on Oak Island.
581
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,767
We have, uh, an archaeological
site there on Lot 5
582
00:25:06,934 --> 00:25:11,800
that appears to have had
about two periods of occupancy.
583
00:25:11,967 --> 00:25:13,600
There's some suggestion
that there was an occupation
584
00:25:13,767 --> 00:25:16,433
- in the 1600s.
- Mm. That's interesting.
585
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,233
So,
here's an artifact from
586
00:25:19,333 --> 00:25:21,100
the Lot 5 feature.
587
00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:25,967
I'm just curious if you
came across any sort of beads
588
00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:28,934
that are similar to this here
on this location.
589
00:25:29,967 --> 00:25:31,467
Good heavens. No.
590
00:25:32,467 --> 00:25:35,633
But I would say it was beads for
fur trading with the Mi'kmaq.
591
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,834
- Mm.
- The Indigenous people, yes.
592
00:25:37,967 --> 00:25:39,567
Do you think it's possible
593
00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:42,734
that Isaac de Razilly
would've used beads like that
594
00:25:42,834 --> 00:25:45,266
- for the purposes of trading?
- Yes.
595
00:25:46,266 --> 00:25:49,066
Um, um, you get that from
the French. Certainly, they had
596
00:25:49,266 --> 00:25:50,967
traded
with the Indigenous people.
597
00:25:51,166 --> 00:25:54,100
So, yes, I'm sure
Razilly was doing it, too.
598
00:25:54,266 --> 00:25:56,433
Well, that's interesting,
because we were wondering
599
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,467
if that could be
a potential connection between
600
00:25:58,633 --> 00:26:00,400
if not de Razilly, then the...
601
00:26:00,567 --> 00:26:02,533
the group that he was
associated with... -Mm-hmm.
602
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:04,533
...being involved
in some work on Oak Island.
603
00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:06,200
And I'm sure
you are aware of it,
604
00:26:06,367 --> 00:26:10,066
but we know that,
uh, from the journal
605
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,633
that Isaac de Razilly,
he used to sail... -Yes.
606
00:26:13,767 --> 00:26:15,166
- ...from LaHave...
- Yes.
607
00:26:15,333 --> 00:26:17,667
...up towards Mahone Bay.
608
00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:19,567
But, um... -Well,
they certainly went-- they went
609
00:26:19,734 --> 00:26:23,000
on this expedition, um, with two
local priests along with them.
610
00:26:23,166 --> 00:26:25,667
Exactly. -And they
went, um, into Mahone Bay, yes.
611
00:26:25,767 --> 00:26:27,033
And they
also described
612
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,333
an island filled with oaks.
613
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:32,367
Yes, well, certainly.
I mean, they didn't say
614
00:26:32,533 --> 00:26:35,333
which of the islands
in Mahone Bay they visited.
615
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:37,467
But they may well have visited
Oak Island.
616
00:26:39,433 --> 00:26:41,133
There you go.
617
00:26:46,266 --> 00:26:48,166
While he was here,
they may well have visited
618
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:49,567
- Oak Island.
- Mm-hmm.
619
00:26:49,734 --> 00:26:51,166
So I'm sure
there's a connection.
620
00:26:51,266 --> 00:26:53,567
At Fort Point,
some 15 miles south
621
00:26:53,767 --> 00:26:56,767
of Oak Island
in LaHave, Nova Scotia,
622
00:26:56,934 --> 00:26:59,700
historian Joan Dawson
has confirmed
623
00:26:59,867 --> 00:27:02,767
that the Venetian beads
discovered on Lot 5
624
00:27:02,934 --> 00:27:05,600
are the same type
that Isaac de Razilly
625
00:27:05,767 --> 00:27:07,834
and other members
of the Knights of Malta
626
00:27:07,967 --> 00:27:10,834
would have used
as currency in this area
627
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,567
back in the 17th century.
628
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,133
So, we have all these other
European artifacts on this site
629
00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:18,667
on Lot 5, which to me indicates
630
00:27:18,834 --> 00:27:21,066
a potential connection
to the Knights of Malta.
631
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,734
Yes. So,
632
00:27:22,867 --> 00:27:24,800
one of the things that...
633
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,600
...are actually
really interesting is this one.
634
00:27:32,934 --> 00:27:36,166
This is a flintlock plate
635
00:27:36,333 --> 00:27:38,433
- coming from a musket...
- Yes.
636
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,934
...we found in Lot 8.
637
00:27:41,033 --> 00:27:44,166
And as we know, this kind
of mechanism was French.
638
00:27:44,333 --> 00:27:45,800
Yes, that's right.
639
00:27:51,467 --> 00:27:53,300
Yes. Yes.
640
00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:57,900
Mm-hmm.
641
00:27:58,033 --> 00:27:59,567
Yes.
642
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,834
Yes, that's interesting.
643
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,500
Did they go to France?
644
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,800
- Did they stay here?
- Exactly.
645
00:28:05,934 --> 00:28:08,400
And, also, I read
646
00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:12,133
that Isaac de Razilly
came here with 300 men,
647
00:28:12,266 --> 00:28:14,500
- and they were an elite corps.
- Yes. Mm-hmm.
648
00:28:14,667 --> 00:28:17,467
Yes. So, they were obviously
well-trained and-and...
649
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,166
- well-armed.
- So, the question is...
650
00:28:19,333 --> 00:28:23,333
could this be, um, something...
651
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:26,233
that Isaac de Razilly, uh, lost?
652
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,467
It could be. It is strange.
653
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,233
There were several things
654
00:28:30,433 --> 00:28:31,967
- that didn't get back to France.
- Yes.
655
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:35,166
Also, some chests went missing.
656
00:28:35,367 --> 00:28:37,300
It's interesting
comparing those documents.
657
00:28:37,433 --> 00:28:40,834
Uh, uh, we can call it
coincidence.
658
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,800
Mm-hmm. -But that is
another interesting,
659
00:28:43,934 --> 00:28:45,633
um, you know, possibility--
660
00:28:45,767 --> 00:28:50,467
that they eventually ended up
in a place like Oak Island.
661
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,066
It's a mystery.
662
00:28:52,233 --> 00:28:53,467
Yes. Indeed.
663
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,200
Well, it's very interesting.
664
00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:56,967
Yes.
665
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,967
What really strikes me
about this guy is
666
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:01,300
how little we know about
his time here in Nova Scotia.
667
00:29:01,467 --> 00:29:03,066
We know he came here.
668
00:29:03,166 --> 00:29:05,734
We know he came here with a
significant amount of resources
669
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:08,633
because he was trying
to establish a trading post.
670
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,900
Uh, at least
that's the official story.
671
00:29:11,066 --> 00:29:12,700
Uh, and then we don't know
what he did.
672
00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:15,033
We've established
that he had the opportunity
673
00:29:15,166 --> 00:29:16,700
to do something on Oak Island.
674
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,266
We've established
that he had the means
675
00:29:18,433 --> 00:29:19,967
to do something on Oak Island.
676
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:22,467
Now we need to look
for his motive.
677
00:29:23,633 --> 00:29:26,600
Okay. We brought one more
thing along, and it's a book.
678
00:29:26,767 --> 00:29:28,633
- Oh, yes.
- And it was the book
679
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,400
that led us to our idea
to go to Malta.
680
00:29:33,834 --> 00:29:35,300
I have acquired
two ancient books.
681
00:29:35,433 --> 00:29:37,800
The publication date was 1812.
682
00:29:37,967 --> 00:29:41,233
And then the second book has
a publication date of 1763.
683
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,133
In 2023,
researcher John Edwards
684
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,734
presented the team
with two books
685
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:51,567
that he believes are part
of a five-volume series.
686
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,200
They contained Masonic codes,
passages
687
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,467
of ancient Hebrew writings,
688
00:29:57,633 --> 00:30:00,433
and references
to sacred religious treasures
689
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,934
that many believe
the Knights Templar
690
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,633
and the Knights of Malta
may have hidden on Oak Island.
691
00:30:07,133 --> 00:30:09,433
And, curiously,
one of the books in the series
692
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,367
also featured a hand-drawn map
of the island...
693
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,033
...along with a possible
depiction of the vault
694
00:30:16,166 --> 00:30:18,100
that was uncovered in the swamp.
695
00:30:19,567 --> 00:30:22,033
Oh, there's
a Maltese cross here. -Yes.
696
00:30:22,166 --> 00:30:25,300
And beside that,
it even says that.
697
00:30:25,467 --> 00:30:27,967
- Take a look at that.
- It says Malta, yes.
698
00:30:29,967 --> 00:30:31,533
We don't know much
about this book.
699
00:30:31,667 --> 00:30:33,633
I mean, we have
the-the Maltese cross,
700
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,533
so-so we're thinking
perhaps there's a connection
701
00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:38,133
to a-a settlement
702
00:30:38,333 --> 00:30:41,100
that was founded by a member
of the Order of Malta.
703
00:30:42,133 --> 00:30:44,100
Oh, it's Josephus.
Okay. Mm-hmm.
704
00:30:44,266 --> 00:30:46,233
You're familiar with Josephus
and what he wrote about?
705
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,400
Yes. I know he wrote a-a history
at the time of Christ.
706
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:50,967
Oh. Okay.
707
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,467
Flavius Josephus
was a first century
708
00:30:54,633 --> 00:30:57,266
Jewish military leader
and scholar
709
00:30:57,433 --> 00:31:01,300
who documented many historical
events of ancient Israel.
710
00:31:02,333 --> 00:31:05,767
He's also credited with being
one of the first historians
711
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:09,934
to author a non-biblical account
about Jesus of Nazareth
712
00:31:10,033 --> 00:31:12,767
and his crucifixion
under Pontius Pilate.
713
00:31:14,166 --> 00:31:16,166
We believe there's a code
in there somewhere.
714
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:19,100
Yeah, well, I'm just looking
at this margin here... -Mm-hmm.
715
00:31:19,233 --> 00:31:22,100
...which seems to be
a code of some sort.
716
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:23,800
Mm-hmm.
717
00:31:23,967 --> 00:31:25,967
I think, Isaac de Razilly,
if he had
718
00:31:26,166 --> 00:31:28,166
a library of any sort,
this is the kind of thing
719
00:31:28,333 --> 00:31:29,533
that might well have been in it.
720
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:31,133
Okay.
721
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:33,667
Has Joan
possibly helped the team
722
00:31:33,834 --> 00:31:35,800
uncover new clues
in the books...
723
00:31:36,834 --> 00:31:39,633
...related to the beliefs and
priceless religious treasures
724
00:31:39,834 --> 00:31:42,300
that some believe
the Knights Templar
725
00:31:42,467 --> 00:31:45,166
and Knights of Malta
buried on Oak Island?
726
00:31:45,633 --> 00:31:48,000
The fact
that Joan not only recognizes
727
00:31:48,133 --> 00:31:51,266
possible clues in this book
and its author
728
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,867
but also that she says
it's, uh, the kind of thing
729
00:31:55,033 --> 00:31:56,967
that a Knight of Malta
would have in his library,
730
00:31:57,133 --> 00:32:00,700
I think, is very significant,
because this book has
731
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,066
drawings and codes
and messages that we think
732
00:32:04,266 --> 00:32:07,000
pertain and relate
to Oak Island.
733
00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:08,767
So that right there
is our connection
734
00:32:08,934 --> 00:32:10,867
between the Knights of Malta
and Oak Island.
735
00:32:11,033 --> 00:32:13,233
Well, Joan, thank you
very much for your time.
736
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,400
- We really appreciate it.
- Well, thank you very much.
737
00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:16,834
It's been
really interesting for me.
738
00:32:17,033 --> 00:32:17,767
I did this research
a long time ago,
739
00:32:19,033 --> 00:32:20,500
and it's nice
to remember it all.
740
00:32:20,633 --> 00:32:22,166
- Lovely to meet you all.
- You as well.
741
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:23,000
Thank you.
Nice to meet you.
742
00:32:28,166 --> 00:32:29,567
As a new morning
dawns on Oak Island...
743
00:32:29,767 --> 00:32:33,100
So, Ter, 188 to 208.
744
00:32:33,266 --> 00:32:35,400
So you got ten feet of material.
745
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,967
- 208. Okay.
- Great.
746
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,500
...members of the team hope
to make a breakthrough discovery
747
00:32:41,667 --> 00:32:46,300
at the bottom of the Peacock
in Borehole CN-12.5.
748
00:32:46,467 --> 00:32:49,967
More loose stuff, and here's
the bedrock at about 204. -Yep.
749
00:32:50,133 --> 00:32:53,400
After encountering
a nearly 20-foot void
750
00:32:53,533 --> 00:32:55,500
some 140 feet underground
751
00:32:55,667 --> 00:32:58,400
one day ago
that may be connected
752
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:00,166
to a possible offset chamber...
753
00:33:00,333 --> 00:33:02,367
I mean, we got exactly what
we were looking for.
754
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,300
All of this material
is very, very loose.
755
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,567
Things could have, uh,
fallen down through.
756
00:33:06,734 --> 00:33:09,066
...the team is now examining
757
00:33:09,233 --> 00:33:11,734
core samples from the bottom
of the solution channel,
758
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:15,867
an area where any potential
treasure might have fallen.
759
00:33:16,033 --> 00:33:20,533
We expected to see slushy,
slurry, washed-out areas
760
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:22,367
that things could fall into.
761
00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:24,967
We're looking at a whole great
big bunch of it now, Charles.
762
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:26,467
Can you hand me
a cutter, Terry?
763
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,467
Scalpel.
764
00:33:29,834 --> 00:33:31,834
- Let's do it.
- Okay. Let's operate.
765
00:33:33,667 --> 00:33:36,633
If you're looking for evidence
of a washed-out void
766
00:33:36,767 --> 00:33:38,500
or a muddy spot,
767
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,867
this is it.
768
00:33:40,066 --> 00:33:41,734
So, I'm gonna separate this out
769
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:43,500
a little bit and you're
gonna run the pinpointer
770
00:33:43,667 --> 00:33:45,734
- over it, I think, Charles.
- That's what I'm gonna do.
771
00:33:45,934 --> 00:33:47,333
We're looking for metal
right now.
772
00:33:48,333 --> 00:33:51,467
And I'm afraid
there's no metal in that.
773
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,133
Right. Well, that's
disappointing. But, again,
774
00:33:54,233 --> 00:33:57,367
we've been hitting loose watery
material all the way from 138
775
00:33:57,533 --> 00:33:59,700
all the way down to, uh...
here we are at 204.
776
00:33:59,867 --> 00:34:01,433
We're still in this material
here.
777
00:34:01,633 --> 00:34:03,100
This is perfect
to hide the one thing.
778
00:34:03,266 --> 00:34:04,567
Gold
will pass down through that
779
00:34:04,734 --> 00:34:05,934
like a hot knife through butter.
780
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:07,533
I mean, this is tailor-made
781
00:34:07,667 --> 00:34:09,734
for exactly what
we're talking about.
782
00:34:10,734 --> 00:34:12,100
This material's getting sampled.
783
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,700
Unfortunately,
no artifacts
784
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,266
or solid evidence of treasure
have been found in the core.
785
00:34:18,433 --> 00:34:22,567
However, the team may still be
able to find valuable clues
786
00:34:22,734 --> 00:34:24,400
in the muddy soils.
787
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:26,800
Let's get a representative
sample of this loose material,
788
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,900
see if we can take it back
to the lab,
789
00:34:29,066 --> 00:34:31,300
see if they'll detect
any precious metals.
790
00:34:31,467 --> 00:34:33,233
And that should do it for that.
791
00:34:33,333 --> 00:34:36,367
The Peacock,
it's singularly unique,
792
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:37,934
according to Terry.
793
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:41,066
It's highly unconsolidated
soils.
794
00:34:41,233 --> 00:34:44,934
Uh, seems to be
almost floating in space.
795
00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:47,200
Okay, here we go.
796
00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:50,300
It checks all the boxes
for a offset chamber
797
00:34:50,467 --> 00:34:52,934
that has collapsed
down into the solution channel.
798
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,233
And thus every reason
to grab samples of that,
799
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,867
send them off to the lab,
and hopefully find something.
800
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
We got to keep coming
back to this hot area
801
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,500
'cause it's so tempting. We need
more information there, right?
802
00:35:04,633 --> 00:35:07,667
There's lots of places down
there for a treasure to hide.
803
00:35:07,834 --> 00:35:10,000
- On to the next.
- Sounds good to me.
804
00:35:10,166 --> 00:35:11,633
As Terry and Charles
805
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,166
prepare soil samples
for testing...
806
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:15,533
Hey, guys.
807
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:17,266
- Hey.
- Hey.
808
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,133
How are you? -Might look
a little different now.
809
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:20,533
A little?
810
00:35:20,734 --> 00:35:23,333
You can kind of peek in there.
811
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,166
...Rick and members of the team
arrive on Lot 8,
812
00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:29,300
where more soil has been removed
813
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:31,834
from beneath
the massive boulder feature.
814
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,834
- Any finds yet?
- No.
815
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,033
We haven't yet.
But we are screening
816
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,533
all of the soil
that's coming out of here.
817
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:40,200
When you see the rock
pinned like this,
818
00:35:40,367 --> 00:35:43,467
it's looking, at this point,
like somebody has excavated out
819
00:35:43,567 --> 00:35:47,133
an area of this
to get underneath the boulder.
820
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:49,367
When's the last time
you put the camera down?
821
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:51,500
Not since we've moved
those rocks.
822
00:35:51,667 --> 00:35:53,300
We really only just got
to the point
823
00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:56,967
that we've exposed that
underbelly of the large boulder.
824
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,166
We have all these stones around
that really are tightly placed,
825
00:36:01,266 --> 00:36:03,333
and there's a bit
of a pathway clearance
826
00:36:03,467 --> 00:36:05,033
underneath it right now,
827
00:36:05,133 --> 00:36:07,233
so we've had to just scoop out
a lot of dirt first.
828
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,867
But I'd love to see what
that camera can show us. -Yep.
829
00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:11,600
Well, we got the camera operator
right there.
830
00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:14,100
- Peter, have at it.
- Yeah. Let's do it.
831
00:36:14,266 --> 00:36:17,333
Archaeology is
a slow-paced science.
832
00:36:17,467 --> 00:36:19,500
It's just the nature
of the work.
833
00:36:19,633 --> 00:36:20,867
Stay focused, Pete.
834
00:36:21,033 --> 00:36:22,834
- Okay.
- Look,
835
00:36:22,967 --> 00:36:24,734
at this point,
I want to dig it up.
836
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:26,200
I want answers.
837
00:36:26,367 --> 00:36:28,266
But I think everyone
838
00:36:28,433 --> 00:36:30,233
that is currently endeavoring to
839
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,433
uncover what this boulder
might represent
840
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,333
is recommending that very thing.
841
00:36:34,467 --> 00:36:36,033
Let's do this slow.
842
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,567
Let's do it right.
843
00:36:37,734 --> 00:36:40,200
Let's make certain
that we don't make mistakes.
844
00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:42,367
I'll show you.
There's a really good spot.
845
00:36:42,533 --> 00:36:44,400
All right.
846
00:36:44,567 --> 00:36:45,867
Okay. Now I'm in.
847
00:36:46,033 --> 00:36:48,700
- In underneath.
- Okay.
848
00:36:48,867 --> 00:36:50,367
Let's see what we can find.
849
00:36:54,934 --> 00:36:56,500
- See anything there?
- Nope.
850
00:36:56,633 --> 00:36:58,867
Okay. Let me see
if I can go farther. -All right.
851
00:37:03,667 --> 00:37:04,900
What do you see, Peter?
852
00:37:05,033 --> 00:37:06,967
There's definitely room.
853
00:37:07,166 --> 00:37:08,633
How deep do you think we're in?
854
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,233
Probably in
about a-a couple of feet.
855
00:37:12,767 --> 00:37:14,300
Do you want me to try
and go down a little further?
856
00:37:14,433 --> 00:37:16,500
- Yeah.
- Absolutely.
857
00:37:19,867 --> 00:37:23,266
We're-- -[Rick] Stop.
Stop. Go ahead but slow. Slowly.
858
00:37:25,367 --> 00:37:27,934
What's that bright blue thing?
859
00:37:29,333 --> 00:37:31,900
I'll go back a little bit.
860
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,600
No. Go forward. Just slow.
861
00:37:37,033 --> 00:37:38,667
Slow. Slow.
862
00:37:46,967 --> 00:37:48,633
Wait. You see that?
863
00:37:49,533 --> 00:37:50,767
Pull forward a little bit.
864
00:37:50,934 --> 00:37:52,300
- Just a touch.
- Yeah.
865
00:37:52,467 --> 00:37:53,667
I wonder what that is.
866
00:37:53,834 --> 00:37:56,100
I have no idea.
867
00:37:56,266 --> 00:37:58,467
- Doesn't look like a rock.
- Mm-mm.
868
00:37:58,633 --> 00:38:00,867
But if you go forward into it,
feels like a rock?
869
00:38:01,033 --> 00:38:03,467
Laird, come take a look at
this. -I did, but I passed it.
870
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,700
- Am I in the right spot?
- Mm-hmm.
871
00:38:05,867 --> 00:38:07,734
Here, that's what it is.
872
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:10,200
It's... -
Doesn't look like a rock.
873
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,333
Go towards it a little bit more.
874
00:38:14,734 --> 00:38:16,533
Huh.
875
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,500
Certainly looks
different than everything else.
876
00:38:18,667 --> 00:38:21,500
Yes, it does. That's probably
the most interesting thing yet.
877
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,700
You want to pull it
back just a little bit? -Sure.
878
00:38:26,767 --> 00:38:28,667
Oh, my god.
It looks like there's a pearl.
879
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,500
Didn't that look
like a pearl? -[Peter] Yeah.
880
00:38:35,633 --> 00:38:36,867
Certainly looks different
than everything else.
881
00:38:37,066 --> 00:38:38,333
Yes, it does.
882
00:38:38,467 --> 00:38:40,166
Show Fiona that.
883
00:38:40,333 --> 00:38:42,166
After reinserting a camera
884
00:38:42,333 --> 00:38:44,367
beneath the massive boulder
on Lot 8...
885
00:38:44,533 --> 00:38:47,967
That's a very,
very circular piece.
886
00:38:48,133 --> 00:38:50,200
- Like, almost too perfect.
- Yeah.
887
00:38:50,367 --> 00:38:52,500
...Rick and members of the team
888
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:56,100
believe they see new evidence
of possible hidden treasure.
889
00:38:56,233 --> 00:38:58,767
It's a pearl. -[Fiona] I
see why you're saying that now.
890
00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:00,367
- Mm-hmm.
- I'm not saying it is,
891
00:39:00,567 --> 00:39:02,700
but that's where your mind
goes immediately.
892
00:39:02,867 --> 00:39:05,500
- Yeah.
- Gary, take a look.
893
00:39:07,367 --> 00:39:09,000
- Of course you don't have scale.
- Yeah.
894
00:39:09,133 --> 00:39:10,934
But you have the big rock.
895
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:12,900
What are you thinking?
896
00:39:14,633 --> 00:39:16,934
I think pirates and pearls.
897
00:39:17,133 --> 00:39:18,400
It does look like a pearl,
right? -Yeah, it does look
898
00:39:18,533 --> 00:39:20,433
like a pearl, yeah.
899
00:39:20,567 --> 00:39:22,533
It's hard to believe
that it's a stone.
900
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:24,066
It's perfect.
901
00:39:24,233 --> 00:39:26,333
It's almost luminescent.
902
00:39:26,433 --> 00:39:29,333
Okay, so now I'm gonna go back
in-in again,
903
00:39:29,467 --> 00:39:30,934
- slowly.
- Mm-hmm.
904
00:39:31,967 --> 00:39:35,233
I can't quite tell
where it's gonna go. -Okay.
905
00:39:36,266 --> 00:39:37,567
- S-Stop.
- Yeah.
906
00:39:37,734 --> 00:39:39,400
Just black.
907
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,166
- Yeah. Just black.
- Okay.
908
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,767
- It might be covered.
- Yeah. Okay.
909
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:46,233
We couldn't maneuver
the camera any closer.
910
00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:48,533
But now we have
a potential target
911
00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:50,867
for further investigation.
912
00:39:51,033 --> 00:39:52,567
That makes me more excited.
913
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:56,100
And I wonder what else
might be down there.
914
00:39:56,266 --> 00:39:57,834
There's nothing as of yet
that says
915
00:39:57,967 --> 00:40:00,600
that we should cease
activities here.
916
00:40:00,767 --> 00:40:03,400
If anything, it says--
speaks eloquently to
917
00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:05,934
- we've got to continue, right?
- Yeah.
918
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:08,667
It's a bloody mystery,
that is for sure.
919
00:40:08,867 --> 00:40:10,400
What about a shop vac?
920
00:40:10,567 --> 00:40:12,233
I was thinking exactly that.
921
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,533
- I think it'd be a great idea.
- Yep. Yep.
922
00:40:15,734 --> 00:40:18,700
I think vacuuming that out
would be a-a great next step.
923
00:40:18,867 --> 00:40:21,166
Yeah. -One, you would collect
whatever might be there.
924
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:24,500
And, two,
it will open that up further
925
00:40:24,633 --> 00:40:27,066
- so you can get the camera down.
- Yeah. I agree.
926
00:40:27,233 --> 00:40:29,667
And metal detecting
and hopefully pinpointing.
927
00:40:29,767 --> 00:40:31,500
If I can get my arm in there
928
00:40:31,633 --> 00:40:33,700
and we can hit some metal,
we're in business. -Mm-hmm.
929
00:40:33,867 --> 00:40:36,400
Yeah. -We shall leave
no stone unturned
930
00:40:36,567 --> 00:40:38,834
that's not supposed to be
turned. Yeah. -Except that one.
931
00:40:41,266 --> 00:40:43,033
There is reason here that people
932
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,000
went to some effort
to create the Lot 8 feature.
933
00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:48,533
And the only reason
I can think of
934
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:52,567
is that human beings wanted to
put something under this stone.
935
00:40:52,767 --> 00:40:54,533
You know, we should apply
whatever assets we have
936
00:40:54,734 --> 00:40:57,033
to try to understand
what's under that boulder.
937
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,066
I think we are all mystified
by it. Certainly.
938
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,767
But the only way to find out
is to proceed.
939
00:41:02,934 --> 00:41:04,934
- Yeah. Yeah.
- You have a path forward.
940
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:06,834
Let's see what we can do.
941
00:41:07,867 --> 00:41:10,133
As Rick, Marty, and their team
942
00:41:10,333 --> 00:41:12,300
strive to solve a mystery
943
00:41:12,467 --> 00:41:15,734
that has defied generations
of faithful searchers,
944
00:41:15,867 --> 00:41:19,433
one important lesson
has become crystal clear--
945
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,400
they must look deeper than
ever before to find the answers.
946
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:26,667
Deeper in the Money Pit.
947
00:41:26,834 --> 00:41:31,433
Deeper below features that
have gone unnoticed by others.
948
00:41:32,467 --> 00:41:34,934
And deeper into history.
949
00:41:35,967 --> 00:41:39,066
Because what they
may ultimately uncover
950
00:41:39,166 --> 00:41:40,934
could have a value
that is beyond
951
00:41:41,033 --> 00:41:45,066
earthly calculation.
952
00:41:46,533 --> 00:41:49,433
Next time on
The Curse of Oak Island...
953
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,133
It's designed
to hide something.
954
00:41:51,333 --> 00:41:52,767
I want to pick it up,
see what's under there.
955
00:41:52,934 --> 00:41:54,934
Well,
this could get interesting.
956
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:56,433
Oh, that's a brick.
957
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,166
Somebody was in here
doing this.
958
00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:00,734
It looks like a road toward
where the vault is. -Yeah.
959
00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:02,567
We got something in here.
960
00:42:02,734 --> 00:42:04,800
- Look. It's all through it.
- This is very, very important.
961
00:42:04,934 --> 00:42:06,333
It may be the thing.
962
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:08,166
We've processed
these deep samples
963
00:42:08,333 --> 00:42:11,333
from the Money Pit area
and found something interesting.
964
00:42:11,433 --> 00:42:13,467
We could be closer
than we've ever been.
965
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,900
Amen.
966
00:42:15,066 --> 00:42:16,900
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