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The lifeline for North Vietnam's war in
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the south is a network of jungle paths
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and mountain streams. The Ho Chi Min
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Trail is the scene of intensive warfare.
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Survival on the trail is held out as a
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model for all of North Vietnam.
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Everything is directed to war. North
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Vietnam itself is a guerilla society.
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The Ho Chi Min Trail is like a funnel.
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Men and supplies pour in at the north to
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emerge at the battlefields in the south.
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It isn't one trail. It's a network of
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jungle footpaths and dirt roads, canals,
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and rivers that run generally north to
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south for 1500 miles.
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It is a grueling, perilous journey.
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The trail begins near the coast, enters
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the western highlands through a narrow
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pass, then stretches south along the
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mountain ridge separating Laos and
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Vietnam.
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A western journalist, Wilfrid Burchett,
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traveled the trail.
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It was improved the whole time. At the
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time when I first started down, it would
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have taken a good 6 months to get from
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the 17th parallel down to say anywhere
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close to Saigon. It went to very very
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very rugged very very difficult
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mountainous country and uh hair raising
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sort of little swinging bamboo bridges
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and there was no in those days there was
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no way of getting any vehicles down. Uh
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and then later later on it got better
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and better and better and wandered in
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and out over Vietnam and Laos and at
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some points into in the northern
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norththeast corner of Cambodia as well.
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The trail and the Vietnam War develops
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from 1959 when North Vietnam decides to
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supply rebels in the South,
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North Vietnamese strategist Colonel
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Havano.
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And it became a network of strategic
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communications
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to supply our armed forces in every area
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of the front.
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And this strategic route network
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fulfilled its vital mission
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in the struggle of our people against
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local American war in South Vietnam. uh
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oid Vietnam.
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By 1964, men and materials depart from
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organized assembly points along the
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coast. New jungle paths provide easier
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access to and through the mountains.
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Part of the trail runs through neutral
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Laos, so both sides at first deny there
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is a ground and air war.
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Official Air Force film identifies
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specific targets.
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Cutting the Ho Chi Min trail is seen as
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the key to ending the war. Ambassador
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Ellsworth Bunker.
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If we cut the trail, the Vietkong I felt
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would wither on the vine. The only thing
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that kept it going were supplies,
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weapons, ammunition from Hanoi.
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Both the North Vietnamese infiltration
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and the retaliatory US air strikes
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increased daily.
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From 1964 to 67, the air strikes tripled
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from 2,000 to 7,000 each month.
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By day, the pilots seldom detect
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movement. They can only strafe deserted
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roads and river fords.
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Gunships are also called in where
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communist infiltration is detected.
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Phosphorous bombs and rockets are used
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to strip away jungle cover.
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The North Vietnamese defend the trail
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with elite troops and artillery units.
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25,000 North Vietnamese regulars guard
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the approaches to the trail. The
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communist defenses are considered too
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strong to be attacked by ground forces.
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Instead, the US relies on the most
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concentrated air strikes in history and
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an occasional commando raids.
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An army of 50,000 laborers keeps troops
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and trucks moving south, clearing the
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bombed mountain passes and repairing the
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bridges.
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This strategic road network was
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permanently maintained by groups of
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pioneers of young pioneers, men and
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women,
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and of youth groups who were ready at
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any time to repair the roads immediately
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after every aerial bombing.
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Even with the very strict surveillance
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of the American planes on this road,
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never was the road cut.
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Despite the bombing, communist
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infiltration increases yearbyear.
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The US military estimate that in 1965
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35,000 North Vietnamese troops moved
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south.
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In 1966, 89,000.
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In 1967, [music]
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perhaps 90,000.
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In 1968,
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[music] 150,000.
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The trail defenders grow their own food.
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Their campsites and truck repair depots
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spaced every few miles under thick
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jungle canopy.
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There's strict military discipline on
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meal times and rationing.
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Each camp has a medic unit. Some have
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nurses and surgeons.
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At key base camps, communist cadres even
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published their own news of the war.
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Some American commandos couldn't
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convince their superiors of the extent
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of the trail organization.
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I always felt that uh they disregarded
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whatever uh information we gave them.
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always felt that because at times that
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Ho Chi Min Trail was so busy. Uh
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it really was like uh the Long Island
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Expressway during rush hour and anybody
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that knows that such large amounts of
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men and materials are moving down that
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knows that and doesn't do anything about
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it obviously didn't want to uh win the
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war. And I'm not just saying my reports.
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There was a lot of electronic
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easedropping devices that were also
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dropped all over that trail and the air
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force knew about it. The army knew about
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it, the CIA knew about it and yet
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everybody tended to uh disregard that
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information in terms of the enemy's
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capability of uh launching a full-scale
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attack.
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I used to hear many people back in the
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states saying, "Why don't we plug up the
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Ho Chi Min Trail? Why don't we just bomb
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the Ho Chi Min Trail?" Well, it wasn't
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one trail. I mean, there were thousands
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of trails. It was a network of thousands
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of trails and there were thousands of
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RNR spots along the way where the enemy
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troops could seek refuge, build up and
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uh I have to commend them. The NVA were
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some super soldiers.
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The troops moving south stop one day
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each week at base camps. These provide
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what the Americans [music] call rest and
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recreation, R&R.
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The most popular pastime against army
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regulations is keeping diaries. As one
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captured soldier said, "We wrote about
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the terrain, the scenery. We wrote poems
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and exchanged our diaries to read.
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At the height of the war, the journey
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south takes only 6 weeks, where it once
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took 6 months.
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Now they move by truck to assembly areas
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in North Vietnam and then through jungle
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passes into the mountains.
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On leaving the north, they get new
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clothes and equipment.
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Then from the supply camps, they start
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down the trail through Laos.
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An assessment of them by US commander
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General William West Morland.
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They were very dedicated group.
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The training of a North Vietnamese
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soldier involved more propaganda
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indoctrination and then military
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training. They were tough. Their
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commanders were were uh were were well
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disciplined and and well trained but
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they were ruthless and demanding
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strict obedience uh by the men under
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them the men the men in the ranks. They
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had a fatalistic attitude where they
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when they moved south uh many of them uh
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had tattooed on their arms a statement
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born in the north to die in the south.
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There was a great deal of discontent in
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their ranks, particularly among the very
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young and um of the very old. And there
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were old men and young men that were
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drafted into service.
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Before leaving, family visits are
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allowed, but soldiers are instructed not
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to tell their destination.
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The tour of duty is indefinite for those
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who travel south.
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As the war intensifies, fewer return.
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[singing]
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A typical day on the trail. They rise at
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3:30 a.m., march for at least 10 miles
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or 10 hours a day.
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They put up hammocks, dig foxholes, cook
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and eat dinner, and prepare a rice ball
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lunch for the following day, the last
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duty before sleep.
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The rice ration is a pound or two a day.
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Luxury is a fish caught by tossing a
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grenade into [music] a stream.
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On the march, they must carry 75 to 85
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pounds on their backs, their army kit,
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three shirts, three pairs of trousers, a
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raincoat, and a nylon tent.
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A few will take up permanent duty
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defending the trail.
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Tens of thousands die on the trail from
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the physical hazards of the journey.
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Eyewitness Wilfried Bett
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medical problems were were rather bad.
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Uh especially malaria,
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malaria, some intestinal and respiratory
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thing, but mainly malaria. But they had
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a very good production of medical
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medicines going by that time, both
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locally in South Vietnam. and they their
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little jungle clinics and they had a
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pretty good pharmaceutical service in u
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in uh in Vietnam in North Vietnam
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and everybody started out with whatever
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it was necessary the anti the
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prophylactic stuff against malaria of
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their own production and uh one one
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thing that was absolutely essential
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which everybody had to carry uh I also
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carried them sort of uh dice uh
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dicesized cubes tubes against a snake
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bite. It was a local remedy. You if you
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got bitten by a snake, you broke the
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thing in two, clapped
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clapped it on the one half on the actual
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bite and swallowed the other half. You
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had to do it within 3 minutes. It was a
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death adder because otherwise you would
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be stripped up.
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In late 1968, the US prepares for a
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gradual troop withdrawal and begins an
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all-out attempt to stop communist
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infiltration.
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Air strikes against the trail triple to
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200 each day.
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Bombing of the trail increases the cost
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of this air war to 1 billion each year.
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In total, the US loses 500 planes over
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the trail.
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The American High Command claims success
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on the ground.
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25,000 trucks are destroyed on the trail
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in one 7-month period.
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But it becomes clear that bombing the
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trail cannot stop the North Vietnamese
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war machine.
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The trail by now is a sophisticated
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communication system.
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In in the beginning it was a you know a
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very very miserable sort of uh
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collection of trails. Gradually it
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became a major more or less highway
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accompanied with a parallel pipeline for
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the big offensive in in 75. They were
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getting their uh their fuel pumped down
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just to wherever they they needed it. It
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was absolutely was absolutely decisive
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from beginning to end. By late 1968, US
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intelligence reports that 10,000 trucks
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are using the trail at any one time.
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The trucks operate in relays traveling
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40 m stretches. Each section has its own
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repair crews, supply dumps, and fuel
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depots.
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The vehicles are kept strung out along a
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grid system of vertical and horizontal
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paths. When one route is bombed, the
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column of trucks switches to a side
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path. A labor gang immediately repairs
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the bomb section.
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New technology is tried. Sensors are
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dropped to pick up the movement of men
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and vehicles leaving the trail. The exit
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routes become a little easier to detect,
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but finally it all comes back to the
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village level. Here, reliable
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information is hard to get.
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Despite controversy, more defoliants are
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used to destroy jungle cover in the
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lands.
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According to the Pentagon, by 1967, the
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communist convoys deliver 60 tons of
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supplies a day to the south. It is
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enough to sustain the war. Food,
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weapons, and ammunition are dispersed to
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hundreds of small units in the
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countryside.
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American reliance on large-scale attacks
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is criticized by special forces soldier
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Dave Christian. They were fighting
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trying to fight a guerilla war with
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conventional methods and they were
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fighting a defensive war. And so they
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had all these support troops and all
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these support mechanisms and uh everyone
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you had signal core over there. had all
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these different things that I'm sure
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were needed, okay, and were probably
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used in World War II, um, possibly in
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Korea, but they were outdated and
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outmoded in Vietnam. Mainly, you take
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your your large infantry outfits, the
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guys that are fighting the war. The
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reason you don't come into contact is
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they make so damn much noise. Walking
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through the jungle, you think it was a
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herd of elephants coming. And if I had a
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team of gorilla fighters, 8 to 10
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people, I would not engage in that large
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with that large of a group.
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Unable to block the trail, the American
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command concentrates on the exits. The
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Iron Triangle, a 40 square mile area
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north of Saigon, is a major infiltration
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point. General West Morland defends
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large conventional operations.
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War Zone C was a a heavily forested area
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uh uh north and
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and west of of Saigon along the
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Cambodian border.
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And it was uh the the Vietnamese before
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we arrived would never dare go in there
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because it was uh it was totally
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dominated by by the enemy.
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Uh the enemy had uh uh great tunnel
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complexes in there. They had uh
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uh their headquarters well dug in and
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camouflage. Uh they had their supply
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dumps there
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and uh it was necessary from for the
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stake for the sake of protecting the
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pacification effort and for preempting
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the capability of uh of of of moving
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into the populated areas for us to go in
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and to disrupt that. But you couldn't go
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in with platoon. You couldn't go in with
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with companies. You couldn't go in with
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battalions. They would have been chewed
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up. they would have been ambushed and
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decimated
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and they therefore it took a massive
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troop efforts to go in there with safety
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and get the job done with minimum losses
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and that was done.
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West Morland prefers a direct attack on
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the trail but Washington rejects this.
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It would require four infantry divisions
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at a time when the US is seeking to
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withdraw troops.
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Instead, the military launched massive
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operations against communist base areas,
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a field commander, General William Dew.
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Uh there were operations which uh were
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called search and destroy. It turns out
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that was an unfortunate choice of words.
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What it meant back in 1964, long before
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it became unpopular,
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uh was simply that US units or
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Vietnamese airborne units or marine
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units would patrol in the jungle, not in
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the cities, not in the towns in order to
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try to find the main force units, search
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for them, find them, fight them, and
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destroy them. Later, I guess it uh
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became associated with pictures of
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troops searching villages and setting
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them on fire and the word destroy became
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a dirty word.
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In a typical operation, helicopter units
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make a surprise descent on suspect
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villages.
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We've run into
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in operational areas. Villages are
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considered base camps. The people are
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presumed to be communist supporters and
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are often forcibly evacuated to govern
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camps.
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For most of the war, North Vietnamese
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infiltration via the Ho Chi Min Trail
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enables them to control at least 60% of
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South Vietnam's countryside.
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India, leave the rise and bring the
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documents back with you.
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and uh call uh sex in
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homes are searched for weapons and
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documents then often burned to prevent
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any use as communist sanctuaries.
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US forces though having greater mobility
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rely on in andout tactics seldom holding
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the terrain
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when American forces withdraw the straw
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huts and the communists soon reappear.
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Known communist villages are bulldozed
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and the crop land leveled. But across
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the countryside, the communists develop
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underground hideouts linked to the
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trail.
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They regard the trail as their route to
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victory.
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As the Ho Chi Min Trail develops, so
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does the legend of the guerilla
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fighters, an image of them from soldier
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Tim O'Brien. Around 12:00 at night, for
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example, uh we would group up maybe we
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worked we worked usually in a company of
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a maybe a hundred men and roughly a half
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of those would group up at midnight and
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uh sometimes darken our faces. We'd
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throw our helmets off because helmets
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were useless. They impaired hearing at
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night. They were heavy. It was hard to
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march with them. We throw everything
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everything aside except our rifles, our
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ammunition, a canteen of water, a
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claymore, and a radio essentially, and
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begin zigzagging through this ghost land
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we call Vietnam.
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Um,
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it was eerie. Uh, there there was almost
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a mythology about Vietnam among the
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soldiers that the land was populated by
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ghosts. We call the Vietkong ghosts
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among in my element, platoon. You know,
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the ghosts are out tonight. The ghosts
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will get us tonight. It wasn't very
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often Charlie. It was ghosts. And that
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ghostly feeling was there. It was like a
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wonderland. It was like uh uh Icabad
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crane riding through Sleepy Hollow at at
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at you know midnight. Uh trees seemed to
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be moving. Seemed to be actually lifting
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off the ground, wavering, shimmying the
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wonderland. We called it ghost land. We
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called it. Uh there was a feeling the
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Vietkong because we called them ghosts.
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And because they were so ghostly you
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never saw them. They'd be, you know, you
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see a shot of flame as they shoot at
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you. You might see a shadow very rarely,
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but they seem to be capable of
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incredible things. There there was
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mythology that they could crawl through
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barbed wire, but they were immune to
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barbed wire. They they were capable of
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of of of supernatural sorts of things.
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So we thought, and so it seemed. And an
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image of the enemy began to to grow of
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an of an enemy capable of of the most
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incredible sorts of deeds.
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To the US, the most puzzling aspect of
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the North Vietnamese is their ability to
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absorb such great damage.
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Despite America's vast commitment to the
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war, many policymakers claimed the US
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lacked basic knowledge about its enemy
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and so developed the wrong strategy.
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After 20 years of involvement, the US
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military had few recognized [music]
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intelligence experts. General Edward
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Lansdale
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Well, looking back at the Vietnam War,
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it strikes me as very odd that uh uh we
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really didn't know any of the leaders on
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the other side. We meaning not only the
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American people, but uh probably our
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presidents and our leadership in
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Washington.
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From its guerilla beginnings in 1945, Ho
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Chi Min's nation is shaped by men
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dedicated to a communist Vietnam.
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Their
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faces, names, and background are largely
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unknown. Yet the wartime leadership
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remains essentially unchanged.
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There is the political mastermind
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name Lewan
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born 1908 in South Vietnam.
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Lewan like his colleagues becomes a
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Marxist in the fight against the French.
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He develops the political organization.
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Leison spends years in South Vietnam
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organizing the guerilla resistance
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called the National Liberation Front.
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He takes over as first secretary of the
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Communist Party.
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There's the longtime prime minister who
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directs day-to-day government and
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becomes Hanoi's public voice.
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Name FanDong
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born 1906 at Wei Central Vietnam.
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Dong is highly educated, the son of a
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Mandarin. He helps found the Vietmin,
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the peasant movement which fights the
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French.
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He negotiates peace in 1954.
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The agreement partitions Vietnam. He
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becomes prime minister and as premier
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sees Vietnam united 21 years later.
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There is the military mastermind
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starting with 34 volunteers. He
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eventually commands a millionman army
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name Bonwin [ __ ] Born 1912 in central
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Vietnam.
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[ __ ] is politically active from age 14.
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Though poor, he studies law, then
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teaches history. His wife dies in a
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French jail. He joins the Vietnam.
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At age 27, he plans the guerilla
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strategy which defeats the French.
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He has military command for 30 years.
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And there is the legendary president at
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first unknown even to the Vietnamese
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name.
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Born 1890 in central Vietnam.
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The world knows him as Ho Chi Min, one
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of his many aliases. At age 21, he goes
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to France to seek political reforms for
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Vietnam.
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He spends years in Russia and China,
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returning to his homeland 30 years
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later.
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In 1945, he proclaims independence. 30
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years of war follow.
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In the North, Ho creates a single-minded
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society with one goal, one Vietnam. An
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expert on North Vietnam, Brian Jenkins.
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We're also talking about a society that
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is enormously disciplined,
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a society that has historically was well
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disciplined. And during the course of
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the war, every aspect of that society
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was geared toward fighting the war. I
553
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,240
mean, we are not talking about a society
554
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,080
with free press. We're not talking about
555
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,640
society with open debate. We're talking
556
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,960
about a society where the production,
557
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,720
the economy,
558
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,880
every newspaper,
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00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,760
virtually every poem,
560
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artistic activity
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uh was all geared toward
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00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,960
uh um that war effort.
563
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,679
The war in the north is most intense
564
00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:57,440
along infiltration routes near the
565
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,159
border with the south. The US bombards
566
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this region almost daily for 8 years
567
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,480
diplomat.
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00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,520
When the enemy planes arrived, everyone
569
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,279
participated in the anti-aircraft
570
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:16,880
defense.
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00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,799
Whether it was an active defense such as
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00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,200
manning the guns, or whether it was a
573
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,399
passive defense,
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00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:26,399
one of creating conditions in which the
575
00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:28,240
civil population wouldn't be harmed by
576
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,120
the bombing.
577
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,360
And after the planes left, everyone
578
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,679
would pick up their work, whether it was
579
00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:38,159
in the factories, the fields, the city,
580
00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:41,640
or the country.
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00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,960
To guard the border area, the population
582
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,159
of the Vinland region goes underground.
583
00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:50,080
Year by year, they extend the tunnel
584
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,720
community.
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00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,720
According to Hanoi, the strange world of
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00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,360
Vinllin finally winds for hundreds of
587
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,600
miles, sheltering 70,000 people.
588
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,480
Vinllin is upheld as an example of
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00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,799
national sacrifice. People are
590
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:12,760
encouraged to serve here.
591
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,799
Between bombing raids, the peasants
592
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:19,080
cultivate livestock and crops.
593
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,080
Trenches crisscross the fields.
594
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,559
The tunnels are organized like a city.
595
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:30,480
There are nurseries, hospitals,
596
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,971
recreation areas.
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00:31:32,971 --> 00:31:34,399
[crying]
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00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:36,880
Most of the population has never known
599
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,880
peace.
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00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,399
The entire society revolves around the
601
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:45,519
war. Journalist Wilfred Bchett.
602
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,039
It was compulsory for the kids to wear
603
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:48,480
green camouflage when they went to
604
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,559
school. Roughly whatever the vegetation
605
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,279
was in the area. But I remember once
606
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:56,480
driving soon uh and to my great
607
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,640
astonishment a whole field of maze
608
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,440
suddenly got to its feet and charged
609
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600
across the road. And these were all
610
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,120
these were the local peasant militia.
611
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,279
The priority is to keep open supply
612
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,600
routes. Women militia are drafted to
613
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,760
defend them.
614
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,399
Women played a very considerable role
615
00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:18,480
the early day in the my first visits. I
616
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,559
would say about half of the local
617
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,200
village uh self-defense units and
618
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,440
probably more were in fact women who
619
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,039
actually you know knew how to handle
620
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:31,279
rifles and grenades and whatever it was.
621
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,679
In the north, the women had very largely
622
00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:35,919
taken over from the men in the in
623
00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:38,159
agricultural production. You saw women
624
00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:40,080
everywhere working in the fields and
625
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,640
doing jobs which previously women never
626
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640
never handled at all. Plowing and
627
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,600
harrowing and that sort of thing.
628
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,279
Our army was by nature a popular army.
629
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It was composed of three categories. the
630
00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:59,279
local militia, the regional units, and
631
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,000
the units of the regular army.
632
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,480
An ordinary fighter in the regular army
633
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,360
was normally 20 to 25 years old.
634
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,360
The majority of them had secondary
635
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,679
school education
636
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:18,720
and they had the possibility of
637
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,399
continuing their studies in night
638
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:25,640
classes if conditions permitted it.
639
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,279
entertainment,
640
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,360
relaxation.
641
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,960
That was the business of the cultural
642
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,679
section of the army and we attached a
643
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:39,440
great deal of importance to it for our
644
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440
fighters.
645
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:46,159
There was a cultural team that offered
646
00:33:46,159 --> 00:33:51,159
dances, singing, music.
647
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,519
They even organized basketball teams,
648
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:58,320
volleyball teams. Teams of athletes
649
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,960
would compete against one another. The
650
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,399
army versus the civil defense.
651
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,720
General Jeff's military hero is
652
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:11,839
Napoleon. I've lost some battles, but
653
00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:15,119
never lost a war, says Jeff. Effectively
654
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,639
his army is the entire population.
655
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,960
Whether in or out of uniform, everyone
656
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,320
is assigned war duties.
657
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,079
The leadership sets an example of
658
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:28,639
self-discipline. The prime minister
659
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,399
lives in the servants quarters of the
660
00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:32,879
former colonial governor. Party chief
661
00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:36,159
Lewan receives a salary of $10 a month,
662
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,599
the same as all other government
663
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,480
officials. Ho Chi Min constantly tells
664
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,359
them, "Stick together." They do.
665
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:48,960
In terms of their personal life, our
666
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,599
leaders were very much united because
667
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:53,200
they struggled under the same
668
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,679
conditions. They'd been in the same
669
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,760
prisons. They fought together
670
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,760
shoulderto-shoulder.
671
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,760
That's why the experience of the common
672
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,800
struggle united them,
673
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,359
not only in ideology, but in a life of
674
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:16,440
revolutionary struggle. We delete
675
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,280
Ho Chi Min regards his role as a teacher
676
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,960
who could achieve greatest results
677
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,440
through personal contact. And what he
678
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,480
taught was patience.
679
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160
During 8 years of bombing, towns in the
680
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,359
border provinces are destroyed.
681
00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:38,480
Namin, North Vietnam's third largest
682
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,359
city. It is a transportation and textile
683
00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:45,640
center. frequently bombed.
684
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,880
The damage is widely publicized.
685
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Visitors taken to the city 50 mi south
686
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,280
of Hanoi find churches, homes, schools
687
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,920
destroyed.
688
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Most of the 90,000 population is
689
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,599
evacuated.
690
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:21,640
But they adjust, says Havano.
691
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,200
That is why in spite of the very savage,
692
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,359
very barbaric bombings of the enemy
693
00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,359
planes,
694
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:33,400
life had to continue.
695
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,260
[music]
696
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,680
are relocated in mountain caves. Some
697
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,920
move three or four times as a result of
698
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,079
the bombing.
699
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,359
A typical Hanoi machine tool factory is
700
00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:56,240
broken down into 50 separate workshops
701
00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:00,440
scattered outside the city.
702
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,599
Work continues in three shifts to
703
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:09,720
maintain the war in the south.
704
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:12,480
Individual hardships continue for 30
705
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480
years.
706
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,599
Food is about subsistence level.
707
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,800
In 1967, the monthly ration per person
708
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,839
is one pound of meat and 8 lb of rice.
709
00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:32,160
In a year, each person is allowed 5
710
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,960
yards of cloth, enough for one shirt and
711
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,520
one pair of trousers, the standard dress
712
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,119
for men and women.
713
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,200
Some workers are relocated hundreds of
714
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,560
miles from their homes.
715
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,720
As a result, some children are separated
716
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,280
from their parents for years. This has
717
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,720
happened before in Vietnam.
718
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,960
The evacuated areas were first used in
719
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,920
10th century wars. They lived now where
720
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,040
their ancestors fought.
721
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040
The students wear the red kirchief of
722
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,440
the communist youth movement. The lesson
723
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,359
combines a thousand-year history of
724
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:17,200
Vietnamese nationalism with Marxism.
725
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,079
Communist affairs expert Brian Jenkins.
726
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:22,560
without being deterministic about saying
727
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,560
that one is trapped by history to repeat
728
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,760
history. There were to be sure powerful
729
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,160
historical forces in Indochina um that
730
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,720
did have a major impact on the course of
731
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,480
events there. As an historian, I would
732
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,160
tend to go back several centuries and
733
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,800
and to say that I could come up with
734
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,280
with the
735
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,480
patterns that had recurred over five and
736
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,720
600 years.
737
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:53,599
They successfully attached themselves to
738
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,680
these powerful traditions. They made
739
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,040
history work for them.
740
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,440
And uh psychologically and politically
741
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,119
this put the the South Vietnamese and
742
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:08,800
uh the Americans as foreign intruders
743
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,359
very very much at a at a disadvantage.
744
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:15,040
They were able to uh take advantage of
745
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,560
this powerful tradition of resistance in
746
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,320
some cases when it's talking about the
747
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,119
resistance to ch Chinese rule for
748
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:26,119
centuries.
749
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,640
All civilians must contribute to the
750
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,280
war. Clearing highways and rail lines
751
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,400
becomes a specialist task.
752
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,760
An estimated 500,000 civilians, mostly
753
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,560
women, are mobilized as repair gangs,
754
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,599
traveling wherever needed.
755
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,680
By 1968, Hanoi claims that 80% of all
756
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,680
towns and cities of the north have been
757
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680
bombed.
758
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,800
Hanoi has not been bombed. During the
759
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,880
1960s, the [music] US fears that
760
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,599
destroying Hanoi might bring the Soviet
761
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:24,280
Union or China into the war.
762
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,359
But thousands of concrete cylinders are
763
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:29,520
placed every few yards on each street as
764
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,000
air raid cover.
765
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,280
Half a million people, onethird of its
766
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,920
population, are kept in Hanoi in fixed
767
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,200
industries and government jobs.
768
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,280
Everyday life had to continue. Above
769
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,800
all, production had to continue
770
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,280
and even intensify.
771
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,800
Because if we hadn't increased
772
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,880
production, how could we have kept
773
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,680
ourselves supplied to continue the war?
774
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,240
In the urban centers to save the life of
775
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:11,998
the civil population, we dug
776
00:41:11,998 --> 00:41:15,440
[clears throat] trenches everywhere.
777
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,440
The shovel becomes the tool of national
778
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,040
survival. A 16-hour workday is normal
779
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,240
for decades.
780
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,480
The chief strategy is to outweight the
781
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,440
enemy.
782
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,359
The money North Vietnam spends on the
783
00:41:31,359 --> 00:41:34,400
war is unknown, but the war does demand
784
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,480
tremendous economic sacrifice.
785
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,240
In government stores, there are long
786
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:43,520
cues for cigarettes called DMU.
787
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,160
Luxury is a mosquito net. In the
788
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,319
late60s, food rations increase with
789
00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:51,119
Soviet aid. Even then, officials tell
790
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,760
visitors, "We are terribly hungry."
791
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,920
But at all times, traditional Vietnamese
792
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,480
culture is maintained.
793
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,680
And I can even say that we didn't lack
794
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,560
for recreation either.
795
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,240
There were performances. There were
796
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,960
cultural evenings for the people. And
797
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,040
when the night alarms sounded, we'd
798
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,400
disperse. When the planes were gone,
799
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,119
then the shows would begin again.
800
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:25,960
And that was life during the bombings.
801
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,800
North Vietnam is regarded by American
802
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,599
policy makers as a puppet state, first
803
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:45,040
of China, then of the Soviet Union. But
804
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,440
Hanoi tells the people they are fighting
805
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,594
for independence.
806
00:42:49,594 --> 00:42:50,319
[bell]
807
00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:51,839
The North in turn cannot [music]
808
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:54,960
understand US motivations.
809
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,280
Hanoi does not recognize South Vietnam
810
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,160
as a legitimate country. The war for one
811
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,319
Vietnam is presented as a national
812
00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:04,640
crusade.
813
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,720
US policymakers underestimate the
814
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,720
nationalist appeal of Hanoi's leaders,
815
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,520
says historian Brian Jenkins. I think
816
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,440
when we talk about the North Vietnamese
817
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,920
leadership, we are talking about
818
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,079
dedicated Marxists, but dedicated
819
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:21,440
Marxists who who nonetheless
820
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,560
are as traditional as the ancient
821
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,040
Confucian Mandarins that ran that
822
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,920
country centuries ago. Uh in fact it's
823
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,400
intriguing that some of the leadership
824
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,839
uh traces its origin in terms of its own
825
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:40,480
families not to proletarian
826
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,400
uh backgrounds but rather to uh advisors
827
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,800
to the emperors to court mandrins in
828
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,920
some cases. Uh no, it clearly the uh the
829
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,160
Marxism while legitimate and true uh to
830
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,000
those leaders was very very very much
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something which one put on top of a
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Vietnamese nationalism.
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After peace with America is celebrated,
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Hanoi still anticipates a drawn out
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fight to attain reunification.
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Patience is regarded as both the
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greatest virtue and weapon. By this
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time, some of Hanoi's leaders have
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already been fighting for 50 years. If
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one looks at Vietnamese history and and
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the communists certainly did, uh they
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were able to bite off half centuries in
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the in a gulp, whereas we think of 5
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years or 10 years as being a long time.
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uh Hochi men's boast that they were
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willing to fight uh 10 years, 20 years,
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30 years or longer if necessary uh was
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not an idol boast but rather really
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reflected a Vietnamese perception of
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history. It made probably little
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difference to them whether their whether
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ultimately they would achieve their ends
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uh in the year 1969,
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1970, 1975.
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It could just as easily have been the
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year 2000.
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Vietnam 194575
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three decades two wars one objective
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I haven't seen anything to indicate that
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at any time during the entire Vietnam
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war even the height of the bombing at
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any time that there was um
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any threat to the stability of that
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leadership
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nor in fact even any major debate within
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that leadership as to goals.
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What united them and what still unites
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them is our environment.
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The ardent patriotism, the true
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patriotism,
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the profound love of independence and
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liberty that goes hand in hand with love
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of socialism.
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Prime Minister Fam Von Dong answers the
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question raised over 30 years.
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Why are you like you are? Why are the
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Vietnamese like they are? What's in you?
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What makes you tick? and he laughed and
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said, "Well, you know, um, what is our
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history? There's nothing else in our
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history except struggle. Struggle
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against foreign invaders, always more
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powerful than our soul. Struggle against
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nature. We've had nowhere else to go. We
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had to stay where we were and fight
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things out where we were." And this the
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result of this after 2,000 odd years, he
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said, is that it's created a very stable
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nervous system in our people. We never
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panic and whatever new situation arises
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up people say oh well there it goes
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again that this he repeated this three
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times there is nothing else in our
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history except struggle
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Heat.
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