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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,480 The lifeline for North Vietnam's war in 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,200 the south is a network of jungle paths 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,160 and mountain streams. The Ho Chi Min 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,840 Trail is the scene of intensive warfare. 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,400 Survival on the trail is held out as a 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,119 model for all of North Vietnam. 7 00:00:25,119 --> 00:00:28,480 Everything is directed to war. North 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,960 Vietnam itself is a guerilla society. 9 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:20,720 The Ho Chi Min Trail is like a funnel. 10 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Men and supplies pour in at the north to 11 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,119 emerge at the battlefields in the south. 12 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,640 It isn't one trail. It's a network of 13 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,280 jungle footpaths and dirt roads, canals, 14 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,000 and rivers that run generally north to 15 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,520 south for 1500 miles. 16 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:50,640 It is a grueling, perilous journey. 17 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,360 The trail begins near the coast, enters 18 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,960 the western highlands through a narrow 19 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,520 pass, then stretches south along the 20 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,439 mountain ridge separating Laos and 21 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:01,680 Vietnam. 22 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,079 A western journalist, Wilfrid Burchett, 23 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:05,680 traveled the trail. 24 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,680 It was improved the whole time. At the 25 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,319 time when I first started down, it would 26 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:13,840 have taken a good 6 months to get from 27 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,319 the 17th parallel down to say anywhere 28 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:19,440 close to Saigon. It went to very very 29 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,080 very rugged very very difficult 30 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,920 mountainous country and uh hair raising 31 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:29,360 sort of little swinging bamboo bridges 32 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,040 and there was no in those days there was 33 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,160 no way of getting any vehicles down. Uh 34 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,640 and then later later on it got better 35 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:38,239 and better and better and wandered in 36 00:02:38,239 --> 00:02:40,879 and out over Vietnam and Laos and at 37 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:42,720 some points into in the northern 38 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:48,040 norththeast corner of Cambodia as well. 39 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:53,599 The trail and the Vietnam War develops 40 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:56,640 from 1959 when North Vietnam decides to 41 00:02:56,640 --> 00:03:00,840 supply rebels in the South, 42 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:12,879 North Vietnamese strategist Colonel 43 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:15,879 Havano. 44 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,959 And it became a network of strategic 45 00:03:18,959 --> 00:03:20,480 communications 46 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,920 to supply our armed forces in every area 47 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:27,319 of the front. 48 00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:34,879 And this strategic route network 49 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:38,080 fulfilled its vital mission 50 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,319 in the struggle of our people against 51 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,319 local American war in South Vietnam. uh 52 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:46,400 oid Vietnam. 53 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,200 By 1964, men and materials depart from 54 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,959 organized assembly points along the 55 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:54,400 coast. New jungle paths provide easier 56 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,560 access to and through the mountains. 57 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,319 Part of the trail runs through neutral 58 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:03,439 Laos, so both sides at first deny there 59 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:06,640 is a ground and air war. 60 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,720 Official Air Force film identifies 61 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,439 specific targets. 62 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:13,519 Cutting the Ho Chi Min trail is seen as 63 00:04:13,519 --> 00:04:16,160 the key to ending the war. Ambassador 64 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,919 Ellsworth Bunker. 65 00:04:17,919 --> 00:04:21,840 If we cut the trail, the Vietkong I felt 66 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:24,160 would wither on the vine. The only thing 67 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,600 that kept it going were supplies, 68 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,040 weapons, ammunition from Hanoi. 69 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,639 Both the North Vietnamese infiltration 70 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:37,040 and the retaliatory US air strikes 71 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,520 increased daily. 72 00:04:53,919 --> 00:04:57,680 From 1964 to 67, the air strikes tripled 73 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:03,000 from 2,000 to 7,000 each month. 74 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:11,280 By day, the pilots seldom detect 75 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:13,680 movement. They can only strafe deserted 76 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,639 roads and river fords. 77 00:05:17,919 --> 00:05:19,759 Gunships are also called in where 78 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:24,120 communist infiltration is detected. 79 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:27,199 Phosphorous bombs and rockets are used 80 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:31,280 to strip away jungle cover. 81 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:33,039 The North Vietnamese defend the trail 82 00:05:33,039 --> 00:05:36,639 with elite troops and artillery units. 83 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:39,440 25,000 North Vietnamese regulars guard 84 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,080 the approaches to the trail. The 85 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,919 communist defenses are considered too 86 00:05:43,919 --> 00:05:46,720 strong to be attacked by ground forces. 87 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,720 Instead, the US relies on the most 88 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,199 concentrated air strikes in history and 89 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:55,560 an occasional commando raids. 90 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,440 An army of 50,000 laborers keeps troops 91 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,080 and trucks moving south, clearing the 92 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,160 bombed mountain passes and repairing the 93 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,160 bridges. 94 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,919 This strategic road network was 95 00:06:23,919 --> 00:06:26,080 permanently maintained by groups of 96 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,840 pioneers of young pioneers, men and 97 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:32,840 women, 98 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,880 and of youth groups who were ready at 99 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,919 any time to repair the roads immediately 100 00:06:41,919 --> 00:06:46,199 after every aerial bombing. 101 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,600 Even with the very strict surveillance 102 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,479 of the American planes on this road, 103 00:07:00,479 --> 00:07:05,080 never was the road cut. 104 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,240 Despite the bombing, communist 105 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,440 infiltration increases yearbyear. 106 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,080 The US military estimate that in 1965 107 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,720 35,000 North Vietnamese troops moved 108 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,639 south. 109 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:26,960 In 1966, 89,000. 110 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,560 In 1967, [music] 111 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,880 perhaps 90,000. 112 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,265 In 1968, 113 00:07:33,265 --> 00:07:36,360 [music] 150,000. 114 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,199 The trail defenders grow their own food. 115 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:45,440 Their campsites and truck repair depots 116 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,440 spaced every few miles under thick 117 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,840 jungle canopy. 118 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,039 There's strict military discipline on 119 00:07:59,039 --> 00:08:02,840 meal times and rationing. 120 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,759 Each camp has a medic unit. Some have 121 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,400 nurses and surgeons. 122 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:16,879 At key base camps, communist cadres even 123 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:20,319 published their own news of the war. 124 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:22,080 Some American commandos couldn't 125 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,400 convince their superiors of the extent 126 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,639 of the trail organization. 127 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:29,599 I always felt that uh they disregarded 128 00:08:29,599 --> 00:08:32,560 whatever uh information we gave them. 129 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:35,120 always felt that because at times that 130 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,360 Ho Chi Min Trail was so busy. Uh 131 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,080 it really was like uh the Long Island 132 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,760 Expressway during rush hour and anybody 133 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,080 that knows that such large amounts of 134 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,040 men and materials are moving down that 135 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,800 knows that and doesn't do anything about 136 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,440 it obviously didn't want to uh win the 137 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,600 war. And I'm not just saying my reports. 138 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,279 There was a lot of electronic 139 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:01,200 easedropping devices that were also 140 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,760 dropped all over that trail and the air 141 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,360 force knew about it. The army knew about 142 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,800 it, the CIA knew about it and yet 143 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,440 everybody tended to uh disregard that 144 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,600 information in terms of the enemy's 145 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,839 capability of uh launching a full-scale 146 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:16,640 attack. 147 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,160 I used to hear many people back in the 148 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,760 states saying, "Why don't we plug up the 149 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,160 Ho Chi Min Trail? Why don't we just bomb 150 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,160 the Ho Chi Min Trail?" Well, it wasn't 151 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,080 one trail. I mean, there were thousands 152 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,080 of trails. It was a network of thousands 153 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,240 of trails and there were thousands of 154 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,959 RNR spots along the way where the enemy 155 00:09:32,959 --> 00:09:36,560 troops could seek refuge, build up and 156 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,399 uh I have to commend them. The NVA were 157 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:41,880 some super soldiers. 158 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:44,720 The troops moving south stop one day 159 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,600 each week at base camps. These provide 160 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,440 what the Americans [music] call rest and 161 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,640 recreation, R&R. 162 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,839 The most popular pastime against army 163 00:10:03,839 --> 00:10:07,200 regulations is keeping diaries. As one 164 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,519 captured soldier said, "We wrote about 165 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:12,800 the terrain, the scenery. We wrote poems 166 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,480 and exchanged our diaries to read. 167 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,680 At the height of the war, the journey 168 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:23,920 south takes only 6 weeks, where it once 169 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,240 took 6 months. 170 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,399 Now they move by truck to assembly areas 171 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:30,959 in North Vietnam and then through jungle 172 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:35,000 passes into the mountains. 173 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,839 On leaving the north, they get new 174 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:43,399 clothes and equipment. 175 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:47,120 Then from the supply camps, they start 176 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,079 down the trail through Laos. 177 00:10:53,839 --> 00:10:55,920 An assessment of them by US commander 178 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,160 General William West Morland. 179 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,760 They were very dedicated group. 180 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,440 The training of a North Vietnamese 181 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,079 soldier involved more propaganda 182 00:11:06,079 --> 00:11:08,160 indoctrination and then military 183 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,959 training. They were tough. Their 184 00:11:10,959 --> 00:11:14,560 commanders were were uh were were well 185 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:16,720 disciplined and and well trained but 186 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,160 they were ruthless and demanding 187 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,200 strict obedience uh by the men under 188 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,079 them the men the men in the ranks. They 189 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:28,800 had a fatalistic attitude where they 190 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,480 when they moved south uh many of them uh 191 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,120 had tattooed on their arms a statement 192 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,959 born in the north to die in the south. 193 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:42,240 There was a great deal of discontent in 194 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,040 their ranks, particularly among the very 195 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,880 young and um of the very old. And there 196 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,680 were old men and young men that were 197 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:54,560 drafted into service. 198 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:56,560 Before leaving, family visits are 199 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:59,120 allowed, but soldiers are instructed not 200 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,399 to tell their destination. 201 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:04,480 The tour of duty is indefinite for those 202 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,560 who travel south. 203 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:11,643 As the war intensifies, fewer return. 204 00:12:11,643 --> 00:12:13,440 [singing] 205 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,320 A typical day on the trail. They rise at 206 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,040 3:30 a.m., march for at least 10 miles 207 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,000 or 10 hours a day. 208 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,560 They put up hammocks, dig foxholes, cook 209 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:27,120 and eat dinner, and prepare a rice ball 210 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,360 lunch for the following day, the last 211 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,639 duty before sleep. 212 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:35,680 The rice ration is a pound or two a day. 213 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:38,000 Luxury is a fish caught by tossing a 214 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,560 grenade into [music] a stream. 215 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,440 On the march, they must carry 75 to 85 216 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,160 pounds on their backs, their army kit, 217 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,959 three shirts, three pairs of trousers, a 218 00:12:48,959 --> 00:12:52,639 raincoat, and a nylon tent. 219 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:54,720 A few will take up permanent duty 220 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,440 defending the trail. 221 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Tens of thousands die on the trail from 222 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,760 the physical hazards of the journey. 223 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,920 Eyewitness Wilfried Bett 224 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,959 medical problems were were rather bad. 225 00:13:10,959 --> 00:13:13,600 Uh especially malaria, 226 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,040 malaria, some intestinal and respiratory 227 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,519 thing, but mainly malaria. But they had 228 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:22,560 a very good production of medical 229 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:25,120 medicines going by that time, both 230 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,040 locally in South Vietnam. and they their 231 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,120 little jungle clinics and they had a 232 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,600 pretty good pharmaceutical service in u 233 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,440 in uh in Vietnam in North Vietnam 234 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,519 and everybody started out with whatever 235 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:39,040 it was necessary the anti the 236 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,600 prophylactic stuff against malaria of 237 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,360 their own production and uh one one 238 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,959 thing that was absolutely essential 239 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:50,160 which everybody had to carry uh I also 240 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,760 carried them sort of uh dice uh 241 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,760 dicesized cubes tubes against a snake 242 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,160 bite. It was a local remedy. You if you 243 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,760 got bitten by a snake, you broke the 244 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,480 thing in two, clapped 245 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,279 clapped it on the one half on the actual 246 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:11,040 bite and swallowed the other half. You 247 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,560 had to do it within 3 minutes. It was a 248 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,079 death adder because otherwise you would 249 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:18,120 be stripped up. 250 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,519 In late 1968, the US prepares for a 251 00:14:25,519 --> 00:14:28,000 gradual troop withdrawal and begins an 252 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,839 all-out attempt to stop communist 253 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:32,839 infiltration. 254 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,839 Air strikes against the trail triple to 255 00:14:35,839 --> 00:14:39,639 200 each day. 256 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,199 Bombing of the trail increases the cost 257 00:14:57,199 --> 00:15:01,360 of this air war to 1 billion each year. 258 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,399 In total, the US loses 500 planes over 259 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:07,560 the trail. 260 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,279 The American High Command claims success 261 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:27,839 on the ground. 262 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:30,320 25,000 trucks are destroyed on the trail 263 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,199 in one 7-month period. 264 00:15:33,199 --> 00:15:35,120 But it becomes clear that bombing the 265 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,600 trail cannot stop the North Vietnamese 266 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,440 war machine. 267 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,920 The trail by now is a sophisticated 268 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,639 communication system. 269 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,120 In in the beginning it was a you know a 270 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,519 very very miserable sort of uh 271 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:55,199 collection of trails. Gradually it 272 00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:57,440 became a major more or less highway 273 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,240 accompanied with a parallel pipeline for 274 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,279 the big offensive in in 75. They were 275 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:06,079 getting their uh their fuel pumped down 276 00:16:06,079 --> 00:16:09,040 just to wherever they they needed it. It 277 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,600 was absolutely was absolutely decisive 278 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,839 from beginning to end. By late 1968, US 279 00:16:15,839 --> 00:16:18,160 intelligence reports that 10,000 trucks 280 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,920 are using the trail at any one time. 281 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,839 The trucks operate in relays traveling 282 00:16:25,839 --> 00:16:28,800 40 m stretches. Each section has its own 283 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,040 repair crews, supply dumps, and fuel 284 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,519 depots. 285 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:35,519 The vehicles are kept strung out along a 286 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:37,680 grid system of vertical and horizontal 287 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,560 paths. When one route is bombed, the 288 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,399 column of trucks switches to a side 289 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:45,199 path. A labor gang immediately repairs 290 00:16:45,199 --> 00:16:48,759 the bomb section. 291 00:17:01,199 --> 00:17:03,839 New technology is tried. Sensors are 292 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:05,360 dropped to pick up the movement of men 293 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:08,079 and vehicles leaving the trail. The exit 294 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,480 routes become a little easier to detect, 295 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,640 but finally it all comes back to the 296 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,039 village level. Here, reliable 297 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:19,480 information is hard to get. 298 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,400 Despite controversy, more defoliants are 299 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,319 used to destroy jungle cover in the 300 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:27,319 lands. 301 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,919 According to the Pentagon, by 1967, the 302 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:34,160 communist convoys deliver 60 tons of 303 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,480 supplies a day to the south. It is 304 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,880 enough to sustain the war. Food, 305 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,880 weapons, and ammunition are dispersed to 306 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,400 hundreds of small units in the 307 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,960 countryside. 308 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,200 American reliance on large-scale attacks 309 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,840 is criticized by special forces soldier 310 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,000 Dave Christian. They were fighting 311 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,440 trying to fight a guerilla war with 312 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,520 conventional methods and they were 313 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,280 fighting a defensive war. And so they 314 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,640 had all these support troops and all 315 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,679 these support mechanisms and uh everyone 316 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:03,760 you had signal core over there. had all 317 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,039 these different things that I'm sure 318 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:06,640 were needed, okay, and were probably 319 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,760 used in World War II, um, possibly in 320 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,679 Korea, but they were outdated and 321 00:18:11,679 --> 00:18:13,600 outmoded in Vietnam. Mainly, you take 322 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,679 your your large infantry outfits, the 323 00:18:15,679 --> 00:18:17,520 guys that are fighting the war. The 324 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,160 reason you don't come into contact is 325 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,320 they make so damn much noise. Walking 326 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,520 through the jungle, you think it was a 327 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,840 herd of elephants coming. And if I had a 328 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,840 team of gorilla fighters, 8 to 10 329 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,080 people, I would not engage in that large 330 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,880 with that large of a group. 331 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,080 Unable to block the trail, the American 332 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,799 command concentrates on the exits. The 333 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:45,840 Iron Triangle, a 40 square mile area 334 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,799 north of Saigon, is a major infiltration 335 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:51,600 point. General West Morland defends 336 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,320 large conventional operations. 337 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,720 War Zone C was a a heavily forested area 338 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,720 uh uh north and 339 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,760 and west of of Saigon along the 340 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,240 Cambodian border. 341 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,720 And it was uh the the Vietnamese before 342 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,200 we arrived would never dare go in there 343 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,679 because it was uh it was totally 344 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:19,039 dominated by by the enemy. 345 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:22,960 Uh the enemy had uh uh great tunnel 346 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,039 complexes in there. They had uh 347 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:29,840 uh their headquarters well dug in and 348 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,240 camouflage. Uh they had their supply 349 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,400 dumps there 350 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,360 and uh it was necessary from for the 351 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:40,080 stake for the sake of protecting the 352 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,600 pacification effort and for preempting 353 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,880 the capability of uh of of of moving 354 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,240 into the populated areas for us to go in 355 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,320 and to disrupt that. But you couldn't go 356 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,679 in with platoon. You couldn't go in with 357 00:19:55,679 --> 00:19:58,000 with companies. You couldn't go in with 358 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,520 battalions. They would have been chewed 359 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,840 up. they would have been ambushed and 360 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,080 decimated 361 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,919 and they therefore it took a massive 362 00:20:07,919 --> 00:20:10,320 troop efforts to go in there with safety 363 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,440 and get the job done with minimum losses 364 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,840 and that was done. 365 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,000 West Morland prefers a direct attack on 366 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,120 the trail but Washington rejects this. 367 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,440 It would require four infantry divisions 368 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,520 at a time when the US is seeking to 369 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,919 withdraw troops. 370 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:30,320 Instead, the military launched massive 371 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,200 operations against communist base areas, 372 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,640 a field commander, General William Dew. 373 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,799 Uh there were operations which uh were 374 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:42,640 called search and destroy. It turns out 375 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,280 that was an unfortunate choice of words. 376 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,720 What it meant back in 1964, long before 377 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,120 it became unpopular, 378 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:54,080 uh was simply that US units or 379 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,919 Vietnamese airborne units or marine 380 00:20:55,919 --> 00:20:58,159 units would patrol in the jungle, not in 381 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:01,120 the cities, not in the towns in order to 382 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:04,080 try to find the main force units, search 383 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,240 for them, find them, fight them, and 384 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,360 destroy them. Later, I guess it uh 385 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,360 became associated with pictures of 386 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,600 troops searching villages and setting 387 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,679 them on fire and the word destroy became 388 00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:20,240 a dirty word. 389 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,039 In a typical operation, helicopter units 390 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:24,960 make a surprise descent on suspect 391 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,960 villages. 392 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,840 We've run into 393 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,919 in operational areas. Villages are 394 00:21:37,919 --> 00:21:40,159 considered base camps. The people are 395 00:21:40,159 --> 00:21:42,000 presumed to be communist supporters and 396 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,559 are often forcibly evacuated to govern 397 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,559 camps. 398 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,960 For most of the war, North Vietnamese 399 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,520 infiltration via the Ho Chi Min Trail 400 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,159 enables them to control at least 60% of 401 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:58,960 South Vietnam's countryside. 402 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,919 India, leave the rise and bring the 403 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:05,520 documents back with you. 404 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,320 and uh call uh sex in 405 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,919 homes are searched for weapons and 406 00:22:09,919 --> 00:22:12,720 documents then often burned to prevent 407 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,919 any use as communist sanctuaries. 408 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,840 US forces though having greater mobility 409 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,960 rely on in andout tactics seldom holding 410 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,960 the terrain 411 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,760 when American forces withdraw the straw 412 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,760 huts and the communists soon reappear. 413 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,159 Known communist villages are bulldozed 414 00:22:34,159 --> 00:22:36,880 and the crop land leveled. But across 415 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,880 the countryside, the communists develop 416 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,880 underground hideouts linked to the 417 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,440 trail. 418 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,000 They regard the trail as their route to 419 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 victory. 420 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,400 As the Ho Chi Min Trail develops, so 421 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,840 does the legend of the guerilla 422 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320 fighters, an image of them from soldier 423 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,679 Tim O'Brien. Around 12:00 at night, for 424 00:23:11,679 --> 00:23:14,320 example, uh we would group up maybe we 425 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,000 worked we worked usually in a company of 426 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,120 a maybe a hundred men and roughly a half 427 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,280 of those would group up at midnight and 428 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,280 uh sometimes darken our faces. We'd 429 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,960 throw our helmets off because helmets 430 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,679 were useless. They impaired hearing at 431 00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:29,520 night. They were heavy. It was hard to 432 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,280 march with them. We throw everything 433 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,760 everything aside except our rifles, our 434 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,760 ammunition, a canteen of water, a 435 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,720 claymore, and a radio essentially, and 436 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,960 begin zigzagging through this ghost land 437 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,960 we call Vietnam. 438 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,480 Um, 439 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,120 it was eerie. Uh, there there was almost 440 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:49,200 a mythology about Vietnam among the 441 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,520 soldiers that the land was populated by 442 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,600 ghosts. We call the Vietkong ghosts 443 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,159 among in my element, platoon. You know, 444 00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:57,760 the ghosts are out tonight. The ghosts 445 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,960 will get us tonight. It wasn't very 446 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,760 often Charlie. It was ghosts. And that 447 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,159 ghostly feeling was there. It was like a 448 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:07,280 wonderland. It was like uh uh Icabad 449 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,440 crane riding through Sleepy Hollow at at 450 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,799 at you know midnight. Uh trees seemed to 451 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,799 be moving. Seemed to be actually lifting 452 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:18,000 off the ground, wavering, shimmying the 453 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,159 wonderland. We called it ghost land. We 454 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:23,279 called it. Uh there was a feeling the 455 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:25,679 Vietkong because we called them ghosts. 456 00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:27,279 And because they were so ghostly you 457 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:29,679 never saw them. They'd be, you know, you 458 00:24:29,679 --> 00:24:31,919 see a shot of flame as they shoot at 459 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:34,960 you. You might see a shadow very rarely, 460 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,480 but they seem to be capable of 461 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,320 incredible things. There there was 462 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,760 mythology that they could crawl through 463 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,760 barbed wire, but they were immune to 464 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,480 barbed wire. They they were capable of 465 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,600 of of of supernatural sorts of things. 466 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,080 So we thought, and so it seemed. And an 467 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,360 image of the enemy began to to grow of 468 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,440 an of an enemy capable of of the most 469 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,120 incredible sorts of deeds. 470 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,159 To the US, the most puzzling aspect of 471 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:04,960 the North Vietnamese is their ability to 472 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,840 absorb such great damage. 473 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,080 Despite America's vast commitment to the 474 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,880 war, many policymakers claimed the US 475 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,360 lacked basic knowledge about its enemy 476 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,080 and so developed the wrong strategy. 477 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,559 After 20 years of involvement, the US 478 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:22,480 military had few recognized [music] 479 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,120 intelligence experts. General Edward 480 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,960 Lansdale 481 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,679 Well, looking back at the Vietnam War, 482 00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:34,480 it strikes me as very odd that uh uh we 483 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,799 really didn't know any of the leaders on 484 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:40,080 the other side. We meaning not only the 485 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,240 American people, but uh probably our 486 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,080 presidents and our leadership in 487 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,080 Washington. 488 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,120 From its guerilla beginnings in 1945, Ho 489 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,039 Chi Min's nation is shaped by men 490 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:54,480 dedicated to a communist Vietnam. 491 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,320 Their 492 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480 faces, names, and background are largely 493 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,960 unknown. Yet the wartime leadership 494 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,080 remains essentially unchanged. 495 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:10,320 There is the political mastermind 496 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,640 name Lewan 497 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,880 born 1908 in South Vietnam. 498 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,279 Lewan like his colleagues becomes a 499 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:22,720 Marxist in the fight against the French. 500 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,000 He develops the political organization. 501 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Leison spends years in South Vietnam 502 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,919 organizing the guerilla resistance 503 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:36,320 called the National Liberation Front. 504 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,240 He takes over as first secretary of the 505 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,720 Communist Party. 506 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,480 There's the longtime prime minister who 507 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,640 directs day-to-day government and 508 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,880 becomes Hanoi's public voice. 509 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,760 Name FanDong 510 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,480 born 1906 at Wei Central Vietnam. 511 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,039 Dong is highly educated, the son of a 512 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:07,919 Mandarin. He helps found the Vietmin, 513 00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:09,600 the peasant movement which fights the 514 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600 French. 515 00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:16,799 He negotiates peace in 1954. 516 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:19,679 The agreement partitions Vietnam. He 517 00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:22,159 becomes prime minister and as premier 518 00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:27,480 sees Vietnam united 21 years later. 519 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,679 There is the military mastermind 520 00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:34,320 starting with 34 volunteers. He 521 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,559 eventually commands a millionman army 522 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:42,960 name Bonwin [ __ ] Born 1912 in central 523 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Vietnam. 524 00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:49,120 [ __ ] is politically active from age 14. 525 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,520 Though poor, he studies law, then 526 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,399 teaches history. His wife dies in a 527 00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:59,039 French jail. He joins the Vietnam. 528 00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:01,919 At age 27, he plans the guerilla 529 00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:06,200 strategy which defeats the French. 530 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,039 He has military command for 30 years. 531 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,679 And there is the legendary president at 532 00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:20,120 first unknown even to the Vietnamese 533 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,880 name. 534 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,919 Born 1890 in central Vietnam. 535 00:28:27,919 --> 00:28:30,159 The world knows him as Ho Chi Min, one 536 00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:33,440 of his many aliases. At age 21, he goes 537 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,520 to France to seek political reforms for 538 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Vietnam. 539 00:28:40,159 --> 00:28:42,640 He spends years in Russia and China, 540 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,480 returning to his homeland 30 years 541 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,480 later. 542 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,120 In 1945, he proclaims independence. 30 543 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,080 years of war follow. 544 00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:00,159 In the North, Ho creates a single-minded 545 00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:03,840 society with one goal, one Vietnam. An 546 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,640 expert on North Vietnam, Brian Jenkins. 547 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,120 We're also talking about a society that 548 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,320 is enormously disciplined, 549 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,320 a society that has historically was well 550 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,679 disciplined. And during the course of 551 00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:20,080 the war, every aspect of that society 552 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,480 was geared toward fighting the war. I 553 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,240 mean, we are not talking about a society 554 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,080 with free press. We're not talking about 555 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,640 society with open debate. We're talking 556 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,960 about a society where the production, 557 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,720 the economy, 558 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,880 every newspaper, 559 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,760 virtually every poem, 560 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,559 artistic activity 561 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:47,120 uh was all geared toward 562 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,960 uh um that war effort. 563 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,679 The war in the north is most intense 564 00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:57,440 along infiltration routes near the 565 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,159 border with the south. The US bombards 566 00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:05,159 this region almost daily for 8 years 567 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,480 diplomat. 568 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,520 When the enemy planes arrived, everyone 569 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,279 participated in the anti-aircraft 570 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:16,880 defense. 571 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,799 Whether it was an active defense such as 572 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,200 manning the guns, or whether it was a 573 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,399 passive defense, 574 00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:26,399 one of creating conditions in which the 575 00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:28,240 civil population wouldn't be harmed by 576 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,120 the bombing. 577 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,360 And after the planes left, everyone 578 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,679 would pick up their work, whether it was 579 00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:38,159 in the factories, the fields, the city, 580 00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:41,640 or the country. 581 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,960 To guard the border area, the population 582 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,159 of the Vinland region goes underground. 583 00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:50,080 Year by year, they extend the tunnel 584 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,720 community. 585 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,720 According to Hanoi, the strange world of 586 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,360 Vinllin finally winds for hundreds of 587 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,600 miles, sheltering 70,000 people. 588 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,480 Vinllin is upheld as an example of 589 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,799 national sacrifice. People are 590 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:12,760 encouraged to serve here. 591 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,799 Between bombing raids, the peasants 592 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:19,080 cultivate livestock and crops. 593 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,080 Trenches crisscross the fields. 594 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,559 The tunnels are organized like a city. 595 00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:30,480 There are nurseries, hospitals, 596 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,971 recreation areas. 597 00:31:32,971 --> 00:31:34,399 [crying] 598 00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:36,880 Most of the population has never known 599 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,880 peace. 600 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,399 The entire society revolves around the 601 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:45,519 war. Journalist Wilfred Bchett. 602 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,039 It was compulsory for the kids to wear 603 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:48,480 green camouflage when they went to 604 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,559 school. Roughly whatever the vegetation 605 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,279 was in the area. But I remember once 606 00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:56,480 driving soon uh and to my great 607 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,640 astonishment a whole field of maze 608 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,440 suddenly got to its feet and charged 609 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600 across the road. And these were all 610 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,120 these were the local peasant militia. 611 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,279 The priority is to keep open supply 612 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,600 routes. Women militia are drafted to 613 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,760 defend them. 614 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,399 Women played a very considerable role 615 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:18,480 the early day in the my first visits. I 616 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,559 would say about half of the local 617 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,200 village uh self-defense units and 618 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,440 probably more were in fact women who 619 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,039 actually you know knew how to handle 620 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:31,279 rifles and grenades and whatever it was. 621 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,679 In the north, the women had very largely 622 00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:35,919 taken over from the men in the in 623 00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:38,159 agricultural production. You saw women 624 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:40,080 everywhere working in the fields and 625 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,640 doing jobs which previously women never 626 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640 never handled at all. Plowing and 627 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,600 harrowing and that sort of thing. 628 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,279 Our army was by nature a popular army. 629 00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,399 It was composed of three categories. the 630 00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:59,279 local militia, the regional units, and 631 00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,000 the units of the regular army. 632 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,480 An ordinary fighter in the regular army 633 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,360 was normally 20 to 25 years old. 634 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,360 The majority of them had secondary 635 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,679 school education 636 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:18,720 and they had the possibility of 637 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,399 continuing their studies in night 638 00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:25,640 classes if conditions permitted it. 639 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,279 entertainment, 640 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,360 relaxation. 641 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,960 That was the business of the cultural 642 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,679 section of the army and we attached a 643 00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:39,440 great deal of importance to it for our 644 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440 fighters. 645 00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:46,159 There was a cultural team that offered 646 00:33:46,159 --> 00:33:51,159 dances, singing, music. 647 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,519 They even organized basketball teams, 648 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:58,320 volleyball teams. Teams of athletes 649 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,960 would compete against one another. The 650 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,399 army versus the civil defense. 651 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,720 General Jeff's military hero is 652 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:11,839 Napoleon. I've lost some battles, but 653 00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:15,119 never lost a war, says Jeff. Effectively 654 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,639 his army is the entire population. 655 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,960 Whether in or out of uniform, everyone 656 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,320 is assigned war duties. 657 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,079 The leadership sets an example of 658 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:28,639 self-discipline. The prime minister 659 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,399 lives in the servants quarters of the 660 00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:32,879 former colonial governor. Party chief 661 00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:36,159 Lewan receives a salary of $10 a month, 662 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,599 the same as all other government 663 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,480 officials. Ho Chi Min constantly tells 664 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,359 them, "Stick together." They do. 665 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:48,960 In terms of their personal life, our 666 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,599 leaders were very much united because 667 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:53,200 they struggled under the same 668 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,679 conditions. They'd been in the same 669 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,760 prisons. They fought together 670 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,760 shoulderto-shoulder. 671 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,760 That's why the experience of the common 672 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,800 struggle united them, 673 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,359 not only in ideology, but in a life of 674 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:16,440 revolutionary struggle. We delete 675 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,280 Ho Chi Min regards his role as a teacher 676 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,960 who could achieve greatest results 677 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,440 through personal contact. And what he 678 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,480 taught was patience. 679 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160 During 8 years of bombing, towns in the 680 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,359 border provinces are destroyed. 681 00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:38,480 Namin, North Vietnam's third largest 682 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,359 city. It is a transportation and textile 683 00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:45,640 center. frequently bombed. 684 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,880 The damage is widely publicized. 685 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520 Visitors taken to the city 50 mi south 686 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,280 of Hanoi find churches, homes, schools 687 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,920 destroyed. 688 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000 Most of the 90,000 population is 689 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,599 evacuated. 690 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:21,640 But they adjust, says Havano. 691 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,200 That is why in spite of the very savage, 692 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,359 very barbaric bombings of the enemy 693 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,359 planes, 694 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:33,400 life had to continue. 695 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,260 [music] 696 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,680 are relocated in mountain caves. Some 697 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,920 move three or four times as a result of 698 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,079 the bombing. 699 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,359 A typical Hanoi machine tool factory is 700 00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:56,240 broken down into 50 separate workshops 701 00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:00,440 scattered outside the city. 702 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,599 Work continues in three shifts to 703 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:09,720 maintain the war in the south. 704 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:12,480 Individual hardships continue for 30 705 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480 years. 706 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,599 Food is about subsistence level. 707 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,800 In 1967, the monthly ration per person 708 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,839 is one pound of meat and 8 lb of rice. 709 00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:32,160 In a year, each person is allowed 5 710 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,960 yards of cloth, enough for one shirt and 711 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,520 one pair of trousers, the standard dress 712 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,119 for men and women. 713 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,200 Some workers are relocated hundreds of 714 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,560 miles from their homes. 715 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,720 As a result, some children are separated 716 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,280 from their parents for years. This has 717 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,720 happened before in Vietnam. 718 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,960 The evacuated areas were first used in 719 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,920 10th century wars. They lived now where 720 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,040 their ancestors fought. 721 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040 The students wear the red kirchief of 722 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,440 the communist youth movement. The lesson 723 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,359 combines a thousand-year history of 724 00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:17,200 Vietnamese nationalism with Marxism. 725 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,079 Communist affairs expert Brian Jenkins. 726 00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:22,560 without being deterministic about saying 727 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,560 that one is trapped by history to repeat 728 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,760 history. There were to be sure powerful 729 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,160 historical forces in Indochina um that 730 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,720 did have a major impact on the course of 731 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,480 events there. As an historian, I would 732 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,160 tend to go back several centuries and 733 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,800 and to say that I could come up with 734 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,280 with the 735 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,480 patterns that had recurred over five and 736 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,720 600 years. 737 00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:53,599 They successfully attached themselves to 738 00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,680 these powerful traditions. They made 739 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,040 history work for them. 740 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,440 And uh psychologically and politically 741 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,119 this put the the South Vietnamese and 742 00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:08,800 uh the Americans as foreign intruders 743 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,359 very very much at a at a disadvantage. 744 00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:15,040 They were able to uh take advantage of 745 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,560 this powerful tradition of resistance in 746 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,320 some cases when it's talking about the 747 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,119 resistance to ch Chinese rule for 748 00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:26,119 centuries. 749 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,640 All civilians must contribute to the 750 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,280 war. Clearing highways and rail lines 751 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,400 becomes a specialist task. 752 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,760 An estimated 500,000 civilians, mostly 753 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,560 women, are mobilized as repair gangs, 754 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,599 traveling wherever needed. 755 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,680 By 1968, Hanoi claims that 80% of all 756 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,680 towns and cities of the north have been 757 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680 bombed. 758 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,800 Hanoi has not been bombed. During the 759 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,880 1960s, the [music] US fears that 760 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,599 destroying Hanoi might bring the Soviet 761 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:24,280 Union or China into the war. 762 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,359 But thousands of concrete cylinders are 763 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:29,520 placed every few yards on each street as 764 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,000 air raid cover. 765 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,280 Half a million people, onethird of its 766 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,920 population, are kept in Hanoi in fixed 767 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,200 industries and government jobs. 768 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,280 Everyday life had to continue. Above 769 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,800 all, production had to continue 770 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,280 and even intensify. 771 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,800 Because if we hadn't increased 772 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,880 production, how could we have kept 773 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,680 ourselves supplied to continue the war? 774 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,240 In the urban centers to save the life of 775 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:11,998 the civil population, we dug 776 00:41:11,998 --> 00:41:15,440 [clears throat] trenches everywhere. 777 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,440 The shovel becomes the tool of national 778 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,040 survival. A 16-hour workday is normal 779 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,240 for decades. 780 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,480 The chief strategy is to outweight the 781 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,440 enemy. 782 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,359 The money North Vietnam spends on the 783 00:41:31,359 --> 00:41:34,400 war is unknown, but the war does demand 784 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,480 tremendous economic sacrifice. 785 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,240 In government stores, there are long 786 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:43,520 cues for cigarettes called DMU. 787 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,160 Luxury is a mosquito net. In the 788 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,319 late60s, food rations increase with 789 00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:51,119 Soviet aid. Even then, officials tell 790 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,760 visitors, "We are terribly hungry." 791 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,920 But at all times, traditional Vietnamese 792 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,480 culture is maintained. 793 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,680 And I can even say that we didn't lack 794 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,560 for recreation either. 795 00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,240 There were performances. There were 796 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,960 cultural evenings for the people. And 797 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,040 when the night alarms sounded, we'd 798 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,400 disperse. When the planes were gone, 799 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,119 then the shows would begin again. 800 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:25,960 And that was life during the bombings. 801 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,800 North Vietnam is regarded by American 802 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,599 policy makers as a puppet state, first 803 00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:45,040 of China, then of the Soviet Union. But 804 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,440 Hanoi tells the people they are fighting 805 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,594 for independence. 806 00:42:49,594 --> 00:42:50,319 [bell] 807 00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:51,839 The North in turn cannot [music] 808 00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:54,960 understand US motivations. 809 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,280 Hanoi does not recognize South Vietnam 810 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,160 as a legitimate country. The war for one 811 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,319 Vietnam is presented as a national 812 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:04,640 crusade. 813 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,720 US policymakers underestimate the 814 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,720 nationalist appeal of Hanoi's leaders, 815 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,520 says historian Brian Jenkins. I think 816 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,440 when we talk about the North Vietnamese 817 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,920 leadership, we are talking about 818 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,079 dedicated Marxists, but dedicated 819 00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:21,440 Marxists who who nonetheless 820 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,560 are as traditional as the ancient 821 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,040 Confucian Mandarins that ran that 822 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,920 country centuries ago. Uh in fact it's 823 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,400 intriguing that some of the leadership 824 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,839 uh traces its origin in terms of its own 825 00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:40,480 families not to proletarian 826 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,400 uh backgrounds but rather to uh advisors 827 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,800 to the emperors to court mandrins in 828 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,920 some cases. Uh no, it clearly the uh the 829 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,160 Marxism while legitimate and true uh to 830 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,000 those leaders was very very very much 831 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,160 something which one put on top of a 832 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,400 Vietnamese nationalism. 833 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,880 After peace with America is celebrated, 834 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,200 Hanoi still anticipates a drawn out 835 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,839 fight to attain reunification. 836 00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:15,680 Patience is regarded as both the 837 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,040 greatest virtue and weapon. By this 838 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,880 time, some of Hanoi's leaders have 839 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,160 already been fighting for 50 years. If 840 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,000 one looks at Vietnamese history and and 841 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,960 the communists certainly did, uh they 842 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,040 were able to bite off half centuries in 843 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,520 the in a gulp, whereas we think of 5 844 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,960 years or 10 years as being a long time. 845 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,960 uh Hochi men's boast that they were 846 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,520 willing to fight uh 10 years, 20 years, 847 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,400 30 years or longer if necessary uh was 848 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,280 not an idol boast but rather really 849 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,240 reflected a Vietnamese perception of 850 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,119 history. It made probably little 851 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:57,200 difference to them whether their whether 852 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,359 ultimately they would achieve their ends 853 00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:04,880 uh in the year 1969, 854 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,520 1970, 1975. 855 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,040 It could just as easily have been the 856 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,440 year 2000. 857 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,000 Vietnam 194575 858 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,599 three decades two wars one objective 859 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:39,920 I haven't seen anything to indicate that 860 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,839 at any time during the entire Vietnam 861 00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:45,920 war even the height of the bombing at 862 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,040 any time that there was um 863 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,200 any threat to the stability of that 864 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,960 leadership 865 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:02,160 nor in fact even any major debate within 866 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,680 that leadership as to goals. 867 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,640 What united them and what still unites 868 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,760 them is our environment. 869 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,280 The ardent patriotism, the true 870 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,160 patriotism, 871 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,640 the profound love of independence and 872 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,520 liberty that goes hand in hand with love 873 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,640 of socialism. 874 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,720 Prime Minister Fam Von Dong answers the 875 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:35,440 question raised over 30 years. 876 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,680 Why are you like you are? Why are the 877 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,280 Vietnamese like they are? What's in you? 878 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,160 What makes you tick? and he laughed and 879 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,240 said, "Well, you know, um, what is our 880 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:47,920 history? There's nothing else in our 881 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,400 history except struggle. Struggle 882 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,319 against foreign invaders, always more 883 00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:54,480 powerful than our soul. Struggle against 884 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,599 nature. We've had nowhere else to go. We 885 00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:59,359 had to stay where we were and fight 886 00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:01,920 things out where we were." And this the 887 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,319 result of this after 2,000 odd years, he 888 00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:07,280 said, is that it's created a very stable 889 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,000 nervous system in our people. We never 890 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,200 panic and whatever new situation arises 891 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,839 up people say oh well there it goes 892 00:47:15,839 --> 00:47:19,760 again that this he repeated this three 893 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,680 times there is nothing else in our 894 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,800 history except struggle 895 00:47:37,142 --> 00:47:39,162 [music] 896 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,520 Heat. 897 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,778 Heat. [music] 898 00:48:09,238 --> 00:48:11,258 [music]61685

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