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Hello and welcome everyone. We are so grateful to have you here with us today for this special
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occasion of the launch of Master Chunni Lins book, The Enlightenment Promise, a wisdom
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journey of the heart, the heart Sutra. This work has already been described as a very, very precious
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roadmap for the human family at a time, in history at a time, when we're all being called to go deeper
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into the truth, into an understanding of the universe and who we are in relationship to that.
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The book also carries powerful endorsements from leaders such as Jack Canfield, Dr. Norman
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Sili, Diane Miller, and his wholeness, Ling Riemposhe. This book is a companion to the heart,
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but today is even about more than just the book. It's about a wisdom of the heart.
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I would like to, at this time, introduce Master Chunni Lins. It's my great honor and privilege to
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introduce the author himself, internationally renowned Chi Gong Master, Chunni Lins,
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and his beloved friend, author, teacher. He's also a role model for love, kindness, forgiveness,
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and compassion in action. So please welcome Master Chunni Lins.
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Also, thank you, Jackie. It's such a great honor to have this moment to share what I know
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with you and with the world. So thank you. Thank you. I would like to begin with the question
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about the journey of this book. I know that the journey of this book has been about 15 years
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in the making that's been a heart desire of yours for so long. So my question for you is,
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what inspired you to write this book? And why are you releasing it at this particular time?
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Yeah, it took a long time for me to finish this one. As you know, I am a Chi Gong killer and I love
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Chi Gong. And before I really got deep into Chi Gong practice, I had lots of physical challenges and
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also emotional challenges. So I had author I do is I in my knees and a boom spot in my back
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in the neck and my green headache and suicidal depression. Also, lots of things happening in my life.
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So I was looking for a way to help me to end this suffering. So I came to Chi Gong, I practice
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Chi Gong. I got myself cured without medicine with my author, I do is in a boom spot in the neck.
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And of course, the suicidal depression. So in my book and Bonahealer, I shared this
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story with the people. Then I was really looking for a way to help not only myself go deeper into
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my spiritual growth and also I wanted to help people also in their suffering and their pain too.
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So I was searching for the way how I can help them and many people to do those things, to do the
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Chi Gong practice and to opening the heart and you can help yourself to heal
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completely with pain and emotions and sufferings. So then I came across the hot sutra.
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And I studied Buddhism, I studied Taoism and especially I was so interested in the
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hot sutra teaching because all the masters from ancient times to nowadays, no matter it is
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in the Buddhist world or in the spiritual world, people said, hot sutra is the summary of all
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the wisdom of Buddhist teaching. And inside it has all the power and techniques and wisdom to help
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you to end pain and suffering. So I paid more attention to it. After I studied it for so long,
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I found out, yes, it was so true. Then I started making notes more than 15 years ago.
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And I collected a lot of notes and I put it in a fat note book, a diary book.
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When I started writing this book, the Enlightenment Promise.
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When I finished all the chapters, but the last one, all of a sudden I forgot,
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I was doing the reviewing and I was flying back from China and I've left everything in the airplane.
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So then everything was gone because everything at the very beginning I did the handwriting.
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So I was quite a bit upset about that. And then later on I thought, I said,
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this must be a message for me. What I wrote down, not really interpreting the true wisdom of Buddha.
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So I put it aside. I studied to do more meditation and did more research, more study on the wisdom of
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Buddha's teaching. And then a few years later, a couple years later I started writing it again.
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So chapter by chapter, I felt I was guided. So I finished about this writing. It's about six, seven
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years ago. And I studied over there. I want to make sure what I share with the people is really what
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Buddha wants me to share with the world. So after seven, six, seven years sitting over there,
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I read many times and did the translation and also a couple times in translations. So I have my friends
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to help me out. And then finally, so 50 years later today, I released this book to the world.
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I think this is a very good timing. So you see how many things are going on in the world in such a case.
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And lots of confusions. So lots of emotions and lots of sufferings, wars.
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And you know, the natural disasters or men make disasters is all over the world.
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How can we help people to end the pain, physical pain and all emotional suffering at the same time.
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And the traditional way, if you chase up to the tail of all different individual pain and suffering,
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it will take you life time to help to balance this energy. So now here, how can we find one way
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by doing one thing, then everything got resolved. So that's what I focus on. And I think I got it.
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I think you got it too. Thank you. Thank you. I love the focusing on one thing,
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to solve so many things. So I like to talk a little bit or ask you to talk a little bit
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about at the core of this, the heart sutras, timeless power. You have described the heart sutra as
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it's like a precious promise of joy and a way to true joy, lasting joy, you know, beyond happiness to
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forever joy. And you talk about this ancient wisdom in so many different ways.
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How can you share this or explain to someone who's new to the heart sutra, who may not have heard of it
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or read it, and how do they use this wisdom to transform pain and suffering in their lives in
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today's world? Sure. When people first contact with the heart sutra, they might
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found that this is a religion, something within religion, or this is something about the
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high level of penetration and linemen, I'm not qualified to even touch that teaching at all.
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So actually that is not the case. Let me ask you this question. How many
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occasions you feel suffering in your entire life from childhood to adulthood?
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I don't have no idea, but probably a lot. I believe for the big ones, maybe have a feel,
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how about the medium ones? Medium ones? They're quite a few. How about the little ones?
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Oh, just so many every day. Exactly. So then what I observe is that also people have been
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chasing their tail, focusing on the suffering and the pain on each individual case. I think this
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is great. This is already great. You want to live a happy life. Now why you want to heal the pain?
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Why you want to stop the suffering? Because you want happiness, right? You want to live joy,
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happiness, enjoy the sunshine, swimming in the ocean, traveling with your friends, with a family,
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having such a great time, right? So this is what we all do. To me, people living on this planet,
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we want to thank, basically, survival and happiness. We do all these things. Number one,
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we need a survive so that we can continue to live on this planet to enjoy our life.
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And then in order to enjoy our life better, and we need to do all these things. You need to have
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insurance, you need to have a house, a car, vehicles, doing all these things so that you can have
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happiness. But a lot of time when people got sick, when they focused more on the symptoms instead
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of the root, I really love this Buddha's teaching. He said, wise man or wise people focus on the
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cause of this suffering. And ordinary people focus on the result of this suffering.
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Right? What that means is, you know, wise people, by focusing on, by knowing what is the
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cause of all these sufferings, they try to avoid it. The number one, so that they never experience
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suffering and pain, right? Just like by knowing, you know, putting your hand into the fire,
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then you're going to get born, then of course, by knowing so, you never put your hand into the
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fire again. So this is the number one. So number two is, you know, by knowing, putting the hand
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into the fire, you already experienced that even once. Now you remember that and you don't do
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it again. The fire is always there. It's just like the suffering is always there. Now the
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greediness, anger, frustration, it's always a choice for us. And then you can choose to have it
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again and again and again. There's nothing wrong with it. And this is your choice. But if you want
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to live everlasting joy, happiness, hey, then you need to make a better choice. You don't put your
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hands into the fire. You don't even go touch the anger, frustration, and it's fine away
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to avoid those things from happening. And once those things are happening and you have a way
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to get yourself out. So this is a good one. And right now, talking about the illnesses,
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95 to 95% of the illnesses we're dealing with mostly every day as a chronic illnesses. And
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chronic illnesses have a lot to do with the emotions and commerce and many other things.
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Now, so if we're through a way, we go to the root, like say in Chigong practice, which
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the channels and work with the Chi. And by working with the Chi, everything got resolved.
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So find something simple and focus on. This is what Buddha's teaching about.
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So I really like the in the Hussotra at the very beginning Buddha says Bodhisattva. In the light,
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liberated, all the suffering, pain and sufferings. So this is one sentence. One sentence
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covers everything. The technique, the wisdom, and then the attitude. And then so the energy
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you need to use. Bodhisattva, a person who wanted to end the suffering and pain. So if you want
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to end the suffering and the pain, you are the Bodhisattva. And then you in the light, put yourself
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in the light. Because why is in the light? Because light is everything. We are a physical body,
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we also a light body. So Jesus talked about healing people in the light. Buddha, Lao Su,
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all the masters in the history from ancient time to nowadays talk about healing in the light.
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Why healing in the light? Because that is the source. Everything got created.
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So it goes to the source to help to resolve all the sufferings.
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So that's what I really, really love this teaching. So then I go deeper and deeper and I put
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this wisdom into my healing. And in the healing, I share a lot of stories in my book,
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the enlightenment promise. That is my aha moment. I really have that enlightening moment myself.
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That's amazing. Thank you. That's just, I know I've heard you talk like this a little bit before,
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but this is somehow come together in a whole new way. And thank you for sharing so much that
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deep wisdom in that light. Just listening to you talk about it is a healing. So thank you. I
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appreciate it. The next thing I'd like to ask you about is your unique approach. You talk about
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a unique approach top down from the divine to the physical, which may be a little different than
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what we're used to seeing or hearing about that may be more so from the physical to the divine.
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Can you share what that means and why from the divine to the physical? Yeah. So
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at the very beginning of my healing on myself and on others, I follow the traditional way to do so.
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So when you've got a knee pain and I walk at the knee, when you've got a neck pain and
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walking in neck, I think that is great. You have specific techniques to do that. By opening your
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face, you connect to the divine. You direct the energy, you call the point of mass to this energy,
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to help you, and then you then transfer that energy through you. You become an empty vessel and
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transforming this energy together with your love. Then you help others. That's great. But after I
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saw so many people, I wondered how could I help people to end their sufferings, to end this pain.
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Number one, when they have pain, when they had injuries, illnesses or emotional pain, sufferings,
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they can do something to help themselves to stop it. So they can prevent these things from happening
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in their life. Like go with the greediness, anger, frustration, anxiety, and find the life
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purpose, just like bodhisattvas, like bodhisattvas. The goal on living on this planet is to,
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I mean, working in the world, is to help people to liberate their pain and sufferings.
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So how can everybody do that? Well, how should you come to my life very strongly?
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Then when I look at all these teachers, for instance, like a Buddha, at the very beginning,
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after he got enlightened and he taught people at the very beginning,
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a lot of different techniques, how to push the evil energy away, how to transform the negative energy
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and one by one, you know, do all these specific techniques teaching. Then later on, he discovered that
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even his most advanced students, also, all, I mean, by, and when they were not aware of what they
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are doing, and they made mistakes, and they caused a lot of pain. So then Buddha, in his last
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20 years of his life, he focused on teaching the healing of the heart. The heart sutura, the diamond
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sutura. The diamond sutura is the summary of diamond sutura. 20 years, he did not teach people
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specific techniques anymore, because those techniques you can find in any place, but about the heart,
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the wisdom of the heart, the power of the heart. Not many people were aware of that. So he focused on that,
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and Lao Su and the Jesus, and they all talk about the most powerful healing energy is what is in your
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heart, right? It is not outside there, it is inside you. So that's how I, up to I study all these
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beautiful, powerful masters in history, including the Chigong masters, one secret they were
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doing is from the top down. Open your heart. What do you mean, open your heart? You understand
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what you are, who you are, you are the being on living on the planet. You're also at the same time,
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a resident of the Universe, and actually you are living in so many universes at the same time.
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So once you understand the relationship between you and the divine, you and the Universe in this way,
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aha, so life on the planet is only an experience. It is not like a permanent thing,
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like a people said in the slogan of a motorcycle selling, no one, not many people live up to 100,
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right? So hey, you have many, many lives to live. It is not only one life, right? So once you open
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your heart to see yourself in this way, and all, if we are the divine, living, I mean, part of the
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divine living on the planet, that means we all belong to the divine. We all belong to the Oneness.
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So suffering is part of the Oneness. Pain is part of the Oneness. Joy is part of the Oneness.
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Happiness is part of the Oneness. Peace is part of the Oneness. Your daughter, your grand-daughter,
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and your neighbors, they all are one of them. Oneness. So then how you are going to treat yourself,
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and all the others, equally or not equally. Just like you have five fingers. Do you treat your
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little finger better than the middle finger or the thumb? So they all connect it, right? So give
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you a little finger, every, the whole body hurts. So once you understand this one, aha, now how you
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can help to stop the pain, start the suffering. It's all in your mind. How you open your heart to
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have that recognition of the relationship between you and the Universe, and among you.
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And this is what I see myself at the very beginning of my study. When I see the Universe,
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you have stars, you have a sun, you have moon, you have an atmosphere, you have all these beautiful
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things outside of there, right? You feel you are separating away from them. And you, hey,
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living on this planet, the formation of the body actually was designed based on the formation
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of the solar system. We have, like at the height, it's the sun.
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And the lungs is the atmosphere. We breathe in and out. And then so we have the stomach,
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you know, that's the earth. And so it all lay out according to the lay out of the Universe.
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And also scientists already discovered this. The formation of the body is the formation of the
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Universe. So for instance, the liver, the blood, the formation of the blood, it's the same as
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the formation of the ocean, right? So when you open yourself like this, okay, how in order to
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heal the body completely, you need to go to the source, go to the root, why we have these
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sufferings. And then what is the most powerful thing to help the body to open the channels so that
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you get the body here completely. So now we come back to the light, right? Because we
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are all from the light. And so in my seven dimensions of healing. So the first dimension is the
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symptoms. The second is the direct relationship to the symptom. And then the third dimension is
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the indirect connection to the symptom. And then coming to the fourth dimension, that is the
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height, that is the mind, that's the emotion, it's right in the middle. And then so the next level is
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the light vibration. And then the sixth dimension, that's the information. And then the seventh dimension
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is the creator. So if you go to the creator level to help to direct all the transformation
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down in the bottom, you see, it goes much easier and you don't need to chase up to your tail.
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So that's why all the masters, they teach us, go to the top by open your heart to see all these things.
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So I got it. So that's why I put it into my book. So that opening the heart will take you to the
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seventh dimension. Wow, that's awesome. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that.
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What I'd like to ask about next is your breakthrough, any piphany, you speak about that.
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You had a breakthrough and a piphany into that knowing that enlightened knowing how and through
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Chikong Healing, you are an extraordinary healing for those of you who may not know masterlands,
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it's just extraordinary. You just are, you can't help it. And we're blessed to have that in our lives.
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But you arrived at this through the practice of Chikong Healing. And so you also talk in the book about
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different paths to awakening and the 88 Buddhas who had their own paths and we have our own path.
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Can you just share a bit about your story? What? Sure. So at the very beginning of my Chikong practice
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or the meditation practice, like most of the people, everyone, like everyone in the world who
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practiced Chikong or who does meditation, your mind just have a monkey mind. That's all over.
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So if you say, wow, so get into the emptiness, get into the corners, get into the void.
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And see, in that place you've got everything that transformed. I tell you, I could not.
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I don't believe that anyone at the very beginning of their practice, they could get into the
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emptiness, get into the void right away. Maybe you would get so lucky that you got in once,
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but you just couldn't repeat the second time in the third time. That happened just by chance.
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I was frustrated with that too. Until one day, when I pick up another Buddhist book,
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and this book simply just lists all the names of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, 88 names of them.
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At the very beginning, I thought, hmm, this book like that, you know, can I freebit?
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I didn't pay too much attention to it. Until one day, up to my meditation,
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I accidentally grabbed from the table this book. I opened it, it just randomly scrolled it over,
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all of a sudden I felt so excited. I had that aha moment, the enlightening moment. Because
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when I ran through the names, and now this is a few of the names, like a moon light Buddha,
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moon light bodhisattva, candle light bodhisattva, sun light bodhisattva, a sun light
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Buddha. So everything or water light, and the reflection of the light of Buddha, you know,
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in the water of Buddha. So what all these names they had something to do with the light? You see that?
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As aha, that is ads, you know, so healing people in the light. Now, now then come to the question,
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he said, how can you get into the light? And how in the light things work?
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Aha, then I used the Qi Gong technique, the Qi Gong you get into the void. Not the emptiness,
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emptiness is the universe with all information. It is the only information existing. But the
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information is information, just like energy is the energy existing in the universe, how you are
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going to use the energy to do something for yourself and for the world. You need to have techniques,
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the techniques and the manufacturing of the, by using the techniques, it's the void.
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So you get into the void, into the state of feeling between being and not being
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Bengal, that's it. That's how all the spring for Qi Gong techniques develop on this
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concept. Thank you. So that's in the seven dimensions or dimension.
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There will be this light, information and creator. So once you get into that level,
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then you are a co-creator.
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I would like to ask you next about a little bit more about light, a little bit more about light
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and the heart. Just say a couple words about healing in the light and the role of the heart
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in healing in the light.
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Once you get into the light, the light, so when you see in your physical eyes,
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and that kind of light is the light which is the formation of our body.
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But when you see yourself in your meditation, when you start seeing that light,
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actually you get into the Qi field. So that in the Qi field,
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on the scientist called the Torah field, in the Qi field, energy travels 100,000 times
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faster than light speed. So that's the difference in your brain screen when you see the light.
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That is the light of creator. Or that's the light of creation. Let me bring that way. It's more
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exactly. You have a message, for instance, you want to heal yourself, you want to clear your karma.
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So once you get into that moment, you send a message in and it can help you to clear.
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Wow, and transform all this energy and karma, illnesses, emotions. So that's why people get
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into the void, like in the Bible, the God creates everything in the void. And the Buddha said the
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same thing. And the Lousus said the same thing in Dalta Qi. It is amazing. This masters in the
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ancient time, they did not have a cell phone, they did not have an email, but they came out with the
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same wisdom. And it is fascinating. And it goes back to that just one thing concept that you
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spoke of, keeping it simple, just one thing, covering everything. Wow. So of course,
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even then you become so playful. And in some cases, when you heal others, you just use the wisdom
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of like Agapengch Pungchur or other medicines, you know, some massage here, the needle over there,
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get a pill, but something bigger, and you combine all the things together as one.
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And it is not like meditation and chigong is everything. No. All together, it works as one.
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The wholeness. Beautiful. Wow. What would you say to somebody who is about to pick up this book,
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the Enlightenment Promise, or who has finished reading it, or who is carrying it around in a
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waterproof bag wherever they go? What would you say to that reader? What message would you like for
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them, or would you hope that they carry into their heart and into their daily life as they move
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through so many, so many things in their lives? Absolutely. So number one,
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find your life purpose. You don't have to have something very big. For instance, I want to
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help my family in my life to live a happy life. Also, I want to enjoy my life in doing so and so.
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As a healer, I want to just help my town, the people in my town. I serve them well.
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Well, if you have a bigger goal, I want to solve the world with more peace.
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So no matter what purpose you want to, and if I want to become a good cook for my family,
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good enough. So everything what you do, you solve that purpose. So with that purpose,
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then you practice in the light. And go to the top, down, it's not the bottom up. Once things happen,
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you go back to the purpose, and then you find the techniques from this book. Open your heart,
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put a smile on your face, and move forward. It's not like it's that of chasing after the tail,
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you go to the root by working with your heart, with your perception.
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Thank you. I could meditate on what you just said a long time now. It's so
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beautiful and profound. Thank you. Is there anything else, any other message that you have for
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people listening or reading this at this time, any other messages?
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Well, life is a journey. You have a physical journey, maybe like a 10 million miles side,
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but the journey of the height is about 18 inches from the head to the height. You learn things,
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you get knowledge, the knowledge doesn't give you, it gives you happiness, a temporal happiness,
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a temporal happiness, but the permanent happiness, the infinite happiness is in your height.
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So once you surrender the knowledge to your height, this knowledge becomes wisdom.
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Once you have the wisdom, and as you can, this wisdom is just like a little boat.
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It can carry you across any water, rough water, peaceful water, as you want, and you are safe.
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Thank you. Speaking of water, there's a story. You share many stories in your book and it's
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beginning about your life, and there's a story you share that particularly struck me, and that's
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a story of you as a little boy, nine years old, crossing a body of water at night, in a wind,
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in a rain storm, to escape to safety. And it was so windy and rainy and the boat was starting to
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fill with water. In the boat, your siblings were there, your aunt was there, and the
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guy, the person who was driving the boat, and so you started to scoop the water out of the boat
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with your bare hands, as a nine-year old boy, for four hours. And you made it.
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You helped to save your family's lives, so with those hands, and what came to me as I read that
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story, it's like, oh my goodness, he's here today, and he has scooped that water from the boat,
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saving himself and his family, and he used those very same hands to write this book. That's a
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companion to our hearts. You know, guide for us, a guide for deep rehealing, a guide for joy,
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a guide for love, kindness and forgiveness in action. And so I thank you. I thank you so much for
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scooping the water and for writing the book and for everything that you do. So thank you, thank you.
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Thank you. And my friends, you know, this is not the end of the journey. You can have your own copy
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of the enlightenment promise and read it, treasure it, spend time with it. It's more of a companion
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of the heart. You can find a link at the bottom of the page, so it will help you to find it,
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a copy for yourself. So thank you, and thank you, thank you, everyone,
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Master Lynn, and all the people behind the scenes.
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