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Hello and welcome everyone. We are so grateful to have you here with us today for this special

occasion of the launch of Master Chunni Lins book, The Enlightenment Promise, a wisdom

journey of the heart, the heart Sutra. This work has already been described as a very, very precious

roadmap for the human family at a time, in history at a time, when we're all being called to go deeper

into the truth, into an understanding of the universe and who we are in relationship to that.

The book also carries powerful endorsements from leaders such as Jack Canfield, Dr. Norman

Sili, Diane Miller, and his wholeness, Ling Riemposhe. This book is a companion to the heart,

but today is even about more than just the book. It's about a wisdom of the heart.

I would like to, at this time, introduce Master Chunni Lins. It's my great honor and privilege to

introduce the author himself, internationally renowned Chi Gong Master, Chunni Lins,

and his beloved friend, author, teacher. He's also a role model for love, kindness, forgiveness,

and compassion in action. So please welcome Master Chunni Lins.

Also, thank you, Jackie. It's such a great honor to have this moment to share what I know

with you and with the world. So thank you. Thank you. I would like to begin with the question

about the journey of this book. I know that the journey of this book has been about 15 years

in the making that's been a heart desire of yours for so long. So my question for you is,

what inspired you to write this book? And why are you releasing it at this particular time?

Yeah, it took a long time for me to finish this one. As you know, I am a Chi Gong killer and I love

Chi Gong. And before I really got deep into Chi Gong practice, I had lots of physical challenges and

also emotional challenges. So I had author I do is I in my knees and a boom spot in my back

in the neck and my green headache and suicidal depression. Also, lots of things happening in my life.

So I was looking for a way to help me to end this suffering. So I came to Chi Gong, I practice

Chi Gong. I got myself cured without medicine with my author, I do is in a boom spot in the neck.

And of course, the suicidal depression. So in my book and Bonahealer, I shared this

story with the people. Then I was really looking for a way to help not only myself go deeper into

my spiritual growth and also I wanted to help people also in their suffering and their pain too.

So I was searching for the way how I can help them and many people to do those things, to do the

Chi Gong practice and to opening the heart and you can help yourself to heal

completely with pain and emotions and sufferings. So then I came across the hot sutra.

And I studied Buddhism, I studied Taoism and especially I was so interested in the

hot sutra teaching because all the masters from ancient times to nowadays, no matter it is

in the Buddhist world or in the spiritual world, people said, hot sutra is the summary of all

the wisdom of Buddhist teaching. And inside it has all the power and techniques and wisdom to help

you to end pain and suffering. So I paid more attention to it. After I studied it for so long,

I found out, yes, it was so true. Then I started making notes more than 15 years ago.

And I collected a lot of notes and I put it in a fat note book, a diary book.

When I started writing this book, the Enlightenment Promise.

When I finished all the chapters, but the last one, all of a sudden I forgot,

I was doing the reviewing and I was flying back from China and I've left everything in the airplane.

So then everything was gone because everything at the very beginning I did the handwriting.

So I was quite a bit upset about that. And then later on I thought, I said,

this must be a message for me. What I wrote down, not really interpreting the true wisdom of Buddha.

So I put it aside. I studied to do more meditation and did more research, more study on the wisdom of

Buddha's teaching. And then a few years later, a couple years later I started writing it again.

So chapter by chapter, I felt I was guided. So I finished about this writing. It's about six, seven

years ago. And I studied over there. I want to make sure what I share with the people is really what

Buddha wants me to share with the world. So after seven, six, seven years sitting over there,

I read many times and did the translation and also a couple times in translations. So I have my friends

to help me out. And then finally, so 50 years later today, I released this book to the world.

I think this is a very good timing. So you see how many things are going on in the world in such a case.

And lots of confusions. So lots of emotions and lots of sufferings, wars.

And you know, the natural disasters or men make disasters is all over the world.

How can we help people to end the pain, physical pain and all emotional suffering at the same time.

And the traditional way, if you chase up to the tail of all different individual pain and suffering,

it will take you life time to help to balance this energy. So now here, how can we find one way

by doing one thing, then everything got resolved. So that's what I focus on. And I think I got it.

I think you got it too. Thank you. Thank you. I love the focusing on one thing,

to solve so many things. So I like to talk a little bit or ask you to talk a little bit

about at the core of this, the heart sutras, timeless power. You have described the heart sutra as

it's like a precious promise of joy and a way to true joy, lasting joy, you know, beyond happiness to

forever joy. And you talk about this ancient wisdom in so many different ways.

How can you share this or explain to someone who's new to the heart sutra, who may not have heard of it

or read it, and how do they use this wisdom to transform pain and suffering in their lives in

today's world? Sure. When people first contact with the heart sutra, they might

found that this is a religion, something within religion, or this is something about the

high level of penetration and linemen, I'm not qualified to even touch that teaching at all.

So actually that is not the case. Let me ask you this question. How many

occasions you feel suffering in your entire life from childhood to adulthood?

I don't have no idea, but probably a lot. I believe for the big ones, maybe have a feel,

how about the medium ones? Medium ones? They're quite a few. How about the little ones?

Oh, just so many every day. Exactly. So then what I observe is that also people have been

chasing their tail, focusing on the suffering and the pain on each individual case. I think this

is great. This is already great. You want to live a happy life. Now why you want to heal the pain?

Why you want to stop the suffering? Because you want happiness, right? You want to live joy,

happiness, enjoy the sunshine, swimming in the ocean, traveling with your friends, with a family,

having such a great time, right? So this is what we all do. To me, people living on this planet,

we want to thank, basically, survival and happiness. We do all these things. Number one,

we need a survive so that we can continue to live on this planet to enjoy our life.

And then in order to enjoy our life better, and we need to do all these things. You need to have

insurance, you need to have a house, a car, vehicles, doing all these things so that you can have

happiness. But a lot of time when people got sick, when they focused more on the symptoms instead

of the root, I really love this Buddha's teaching. He said, wise man or wise people focus on the

cause of this suffering. And ordinary people focus on the result of this suffering.

Right? What that means is, you know, wise people, by focusing on, by knowing what is the

cause of all these sufferings, they try to avoid it. The number one, so that they never experience

suffering and pain, right? Just like by knowing, you know, putting your hand into the fire,

then you're going to get born, then of course, by knowing so, you never put your hand into the

fire again. So this is the number one. So number two is, you know, by knowing, putting the hand

into the fire, you already experienced that even once. Now you remember that and you don't do

it again. The fire is always there. It's just like the suffering is always there. Now the

greediness, anger, frustration, it's always a choice for us. And then you can choose to have it

again and again and again. There's nothing wrong with it. And this is your choice. But if you want

to live everlasting joy, happiness, hey, then you need to make a better choice. You don't put your

hands into the fire. You don't even go touch the anger, frustration, and it's fine away

to avoid those things from happening. And once those things are happening and you have a way

to get yourself out. So this is a good one. And right now, talking about the illnesses,

95 to 95% of the illnesses we're dealing with mostly every day as a chronic illnesses. And

chronic illnesses have a lot to do with the emotions and commerce and many other things.

Now, so if we're through a way, we go to the root, like say in Chigong practice, which

the channels and work with the Chi. And by working with the Chi, everything got resolved.

So find something simple and focus on. This is what Buddha's teaching about.

So I really like the in the Hussotra at the very beginning Buddha says Bodhisattva. In the light,

liberated, all the suffering, pain and sufferings. So this is one sentence. One sentence

covers everything. The technique, the wisdom, and then the attitude. And then so the energy

you need to use. Bodhisattva, a person who wanted to end the suffering and pain. So if you want

to end the suffering and the pain, you are the Bodhisattva. And then you in the light, put yourself

in the light. Because why is in the light? Because light is everything. We are a physical body,

we also a light body. So Jesus talked about healing people in the light. Buddha, Lao Su,

all the masters in the history from ancient time to nowadays talk about healing in the light.

Why healing in the light? Because that is the source. Everything got created.

So it goes to the source to help to resolve all the sufferings.

So that's what I really, really love this teaching. So then I go deeper and deeper and I put

this wisdom into my healing. And in the healing, I share a lot of stories in my book,

the enlightenment promise. That is my aha moment. I really have that enlightening moment myself.

That's amazing. Thank you. That's just, I know I've heard you talk like this a little bit before,

but this is somehow come together in a whole new way. And thank you for sharing so much that

deep wisdom in that light. Just listening to you talk about it is a healing. So thank you. I

appreciate it. The next thing I'd like to ask you about is your unique approach. You talk about

a unique approach top down from the divine to the physical, which may be a little different than

what we're used to seeing or hearing about that may be more so from the physical to the divine.

Can you share what that means and why from the divine to the physical? Yeah. So

at the very beginning of my healing on myself and on others, I follow the traditional way to do so.

So when you've got a knee pain and I walk at the knee, when you've got a neck pain and

walking in neck, I think that is great. You have specific techniques to do that. By opening your

face, you connect to the divine. You direct the energy, you call the point of mass to this energy,

to help you, and then you then transfer that energy through you. You become an empty vessel and

transforming this energy together with your love. Then you help others. That's great. But after I

saw so many people, I wondered how could I help people to end their sufferings, to end this pain.

Number one, when they have pain, when they had injuries, illnesses or emotional pain, sufferings,

they can do something to help themselves to stop it. So they can prevent these things from happening

in their life. Like go with the greediness, anger, frustration, anxiety, and find the life

purpose, just like bodhisattvas, like bodhisattvas. The goal on living on this planet is to,

I mean, working in the world, is to help people to liberate their pain and sufferings.

So how can everybody do that? Well, how should you come to my life very strongly?

Then when I look at all these teachers, for instance, like a Buddha, at the very beginning,

after he got enlightened and he taught people at the very beginning,

a lot of different techniques, how to push the evil energy away, how to transform the negative energy

and one by one, you know, do all these specific techniques teaching. Then later on, he discovered that

even his most advanced students, also, all, I mean, by, and when they were not aware of what they

are doing, and they made mistakes, and they caused a lot of pain. So then Buddha, in his last

20 years of his life, he focused on teaching the healing of the heart. The heart sutura, the diamond

sutura. The diamond sutura is the summary of diamond sutura. 20 years, he did not teach people

specific techniques anymore, because those techniques you can find in any place, but about the heart,

the wisdom of the heart, the power of the heart. Not many people were aware of that. So he focused on that,

and Lao Su and the Jesus, and they all talk about the most powerful healing energy is what is in your

heart, right? It is not outside there, it is inside you. So that's how I, up to I study all these

beautiful, powerful masters in history, including the Chigong masters, one secret they were

doing is from the top down. Open your heart. What do you mean, open your heart? You understand

what you are, who you are, you are the being on living on the planet. You're also at the same time,

a resident of the Universe, and actually you are living in so many universes at the same time.

So once you understand the relationship between you and the divine, you and the Universe in this way,

aha, so life on the planet is only an experience. It is not like a permanent thing,

like a people said in the slogan of a motorcycle selling, no one, not many people live up to 100,

right? So hey, you have many, many lives to live. It is not only one life, right? So once you open

your heart to see yourself in this way, and all, if we are the divine, living, I mean, part of the

divine living on the planet, that means we all belong to the divine. We all belong to the Oneness.

So suffering is part of the Oneness. Pain is part of the Oneness. Joy is part of the Oneness.

Happiness is part of the Oneness. Peace is part of the Oneness. Your daughter, your grand-daughter,

and your neighbors, they all are one of them. Oneness. So then how you are going to treat yourself,

and all the others, equally or not equally. Just like you have five fingers. Do you treat your

little finger better than the middle finger or the thumb? So they all connect it, right? So give

you a little finger, every, the whole body hurts. So once you understand this one, aha, now how you

can help to stop the pain, start the suffering. It's all in your mind. How you open your heart to

have that recognition of the relationship between you and the Universe, and among you.

And this is what I see myself at the very beginning of my study. When I see the Universe,

you have stars, you have a sun, you have moon, you have an atmosphere, you have all these beautiful

things outside of there, right? You feel you are separating away from them. And you, hey,

living on this planet, the formation of the body actually was designed based on the formation

of the solar system. We have, like at the height, it's the sun.

And the lungs is the atmosphere. We breathe in and out. And then so we have the stomach,

you know, that's the earth. And so it all lay out according to the lay out of the Universe.

And also scientists already discovered this. The formation of the body is the formation of the

Universe. So for instance, the liver, the blood, the formation of the blood, it's the same as

the formation of the ocean, right? So when you open yourself like this, okay, how in order to

heal the body completely, you need to go to the source, go to the root, why we have these

sufferings. And then what is the most powerful thing to help the body to open the channels so that

you get the body here completely. So now we come back to the light, right? Because we

are all from the light. And so in my seven dimensions of healing. So the first dimension is the

symptoms. The second is the direct relationship to the symptom. And then the third dimension is

the indirect connection to the symptom. And then coming to the fourth dimension, that is the

height, that is the mind, that's the emotion, it's right in the middle. And then so the next level is

the light vibration. And then the sixth dimension, that's the information. And then the seventh dimension

is the creator. So if you go to the creator level to help to direct all the transformation

down in the bottom, you see, it goes much easier and you don't need to chase up to your tail.

So that's why all the masters, they teach us, go to the top by open your heart to see all these things.

So I got it. So that's why I put it into my book. So that opening the heart will take you to the

seventh dimension. Wow, that's awesome. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that.

What I'd like to ask about next is your breakthrough, any piphany, you speak about that.

You had a breakthrough and a piphany into that knowing that enlightened knowing how and through

Chikong Healing, you are an extraordinary healing for those of you who may not know masterlands,

it's just extraordinary. You just are, you can't help it. And we're blessed to have that in our lives.

But you arrived at this through the practice of Chikong Healing. And so you also talk in the book about

different paths to awakening and the 88 Buddhas who had their own paths and we have our own path.

Can you just share a bit about your story? What? Sure. So at the very beginning of my Chikong practice

or the meditation practice, like most of the people, everyone, like everyone in the world who

practiced Chikong or who does meditation, your mind just have a monkey mind. That's all over.

So if you say, wow, so get into the emptiness, get into the corners, get into the void.

And see, in that place you've got everything that transformed. I tell you, I could not.

I don't believe that anyone at the very beginning of their practice, they could get into the

emptiness, get into the void right away. Maybe you would get so lucky that you got in once,

but you just couldn't repeat the second time in the third time. That happened just by chance.

I was frustrated with that too. Until one day, when I pick up another Buddhist book,

and this book simply just lists all the names of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, 88 names of them.

At the very beginning, I thought, hmm, this book like that, you know, can I freebit?

I didn't pay too much attention to it. Until one day, up to my meditation,

I accidentally grabbed from the table this book. I opened it, it just randomly scrolled it over,

all of a sudden I felt so excited. I had that aha moment, the enlightening moment. Because

when I ran through the names, and now this is a few of the names, like a moon light Buddha,

moon light bodhisattva, candle light bodhisattva, sun light bodhisattva, a sun light

Buddha. So everything or water light, and the reflection of the light of Buddha, you know,

in the water of Buddha. So what all these names they had something to do with the light? You see that?

As aha, that is ads, you know, so healing people in the light. Now, now then come to the question,

he said, how can you get into the light? And how in the light things work?

Aha, then I used the Qi Gong technique, the Qi Gong you get into the void. Not the emptiness,

emptiness is the universe with all information. It is the only information existing. But the

information is information, just like energy is the energy existing in the universe, how you are

going to use the energy to do something for yourself and for the world. You need to have techniques,

the techniques and the manufacturing of the, by using the techniques, it's the void.

So you get into the void, into the state of feeling between being and not being

Bengal, that's it. That's how all the spring for Qi Gong techniques develop on this

concept. Thank you. So that's in the seven dimensions or dimension.

There will be this light, information and creator. So once you get into that level,

then you are a co-creator.

I would like to ask you next about a little bit more about light, a little bit more about light

and the heart. Just say a couple words about healing in the light and the role of the heart

in healing in the light.

Once you get into the light, the light, so when you see in your physical eyes,

and that kind of light is the light which is the formation of our body.

But when you see yourself in your meditation, when you start seeing that light,

actually you get into the Qi field. So that in the Qi field,

on the scientist called the Torah field, in the Qi field, energy travels 100,000 times

faster than light speed. So that's the difference in your brain screen when you see the light.

That is the light of creator. Or that's the light of creation. Let me bring that way. It's more

exactly. You have a message, for instance, you want to heal yourself, you want to clear your karma.

So once you get into that moment, you send a message in and it can help you to clear.

Wow, and transform all this energy and karma, illnesses, emotions. So that's why people get

into the void, like in the Bible, the God creates everything in the void. And the Buddha said the

same thing. And the Lousus said the same thing in Dalta Qi. It is amazing. This masters in the

ancient time, they did not have a cell phone, they did not have an email, but they came out with the

same wisdom. And it is fascinating. And it goes back to that just one thing concept that you

spoke of, keeping it simple, just one thing, covering everything. Wow. So of course,

even then you become so playful. And in some cases, when you heal others, you just use the wisdom

of like Agapengch Pungchur or other medicines, you know, some massage here, the needle over there,

get a pill, but something bigger, and you combine all the things together as one.

And it is not like meditation and chigong is everything. No. All together, it works as one.

The wholeness. Beautiful. Wow. What would you say to somebody who is about to pick up this book,

the Enlightenment Promise, or who has finished reading it, or who is carrying it around in a

waterproof bag wherever they go? What would you say to that reader? What message would you like for

them, or would you hope that they carry into their heart and into their daily life as they move

through so many, so many things in their lives? Absolutely. So number one,

find your life purpose. You don't have to have something very big. For instance, I want to

help my family in my life to live a happy life. Also, I want to enjoy my life in doing so and so.

As a healer, I want to just help my town, the people in my town. I serve them well.

Well, if you have a bigger goal, I want to solve the world with more peace.

So no matter what purpose you want to, and if I want to become a good cook for my family,

good enough. So everything what you do, you solve that purpose. So with that purpose,

then you practice in the light. And go to the top, down, it's not the bottom up. Once things happen,

you go back to the purpose, and then you find the techniques from this book. Open your heart,

put a smile on your face, and move forward. It's not like it's that of chasing after the tail,

you go to the root by working with your heart, with your perception.

Thank you. I could meditate on what you just said a long time now. It's so

beautiful and profound. Thank you. Is there anything else, any other message that you have for

people listening or reading this at this time, any other messages?

Well, life is a journey. You have a physical journey, maybe like a 10 million miles side,

but the journey of the height is about 18 inches from the head to the height. You learn things,

you get knowledge, the knowledge doesn't give you, it gives you happiness, a temporal happiness,

a temporal happiness, but the permanent happiness, the infinite happiness is in your height.

So once you surrender the knowledge to your height, this knowledge becomes wisdom.

Once you have the wisdom, and as you can, this wisdom is just like a little boat.

It can carry you across any water, rough water, peaceful water, as you want, and you are safe.

Thank you. Speaking of water, there's a story. You share many stories in your book and it's

beginning about your life, and there's a story you share that particularly struck me, and that's

a story of you as a little boy, nine years old, crossing a body of water at night, in a wind,

in a rain storm, to escape to safety. And it was so windy and rainy and the boat was starting to

fill with water. In the boat, your siblings were there, your aunt was there, and the

guy, the person who was driving the boat, and so you started to scoop the water out of the boat

with your bare hands, as a nine-year old boy, for four hours. And you made it.

You helped to save your family's lives, so with those hands, and what came to me as I read that

story, it's like, oh my goodness, he's here today, and he has scooped that water from the boat,

saving himself and his family, and he used those very same hands to write this book. That's a

companion to our hearts. You know, guide for us, a guide for deep rehealing, a guide for joy,

a guide for love, kindness and forgiveness in action. And so I thank you. I thank you so much for

scooping the water and for writing the book and for everything that you do. So thank you, thank you.

Thank you. And my friends, you know, this is not the end of the journey. You can have your own copy

of the enlightenment promise and read it, treasure it, spend time with it. It's more of a companion

of the heart. You can find a link at the bottom of the page, so it will help you to find it,

a copy for yourself. So thank you, and thank you, thank you, everyone,

Master Lynn, and all the people behind the scenes.