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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,200 Not only have we captured Saddam Hussein, we have also captured or killed 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,460 all of his most trusted lieutenants. 3 00:00:11,820 --> 00:00:16,180 And I want to introduce two men who have been key to this success. 4 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:21,580 Major General Earl Watson of the United States Marines and General Mohammed 5 00:00:21,580 --> 00:00:24,860 Jabra of the Iraqi Army. As of today... 6 00:00:25,340 --> 00:00:30,800 These two outstanding generals are assigned to lead the joint task force 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,100 with capturing all remaining high -value targets. 8 00:00:34,820 --> 00:00:38,300 Ladies and gentlemen, General Watson and General Jabra. 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,900 General Jabra, General Jabra. 10 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:44,700 Could you give us the Iraqi point of view on relations with the U .S. 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,640 I speak for all Iraqi people when I say that our trust in your military has 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,100 grown as our nation grows more secure. 13 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:57,320 On a personal level, I've had many late -night cups of coffee with General 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,720 Watson, and I found it to be quite agreeable, though perhaps a little 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,220 with American football. 16 00:01:04,580 --> 00:01:06,620 General Watson. 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,760 General, are you confident you're the right man to be working so closely with 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,960 General Jabra and the other Iraqis, given your hostile attitude toward their 19 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:16,960 religion? 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,760 I don't know what you're talking about. 21 00:01:21,050 --> 00:01:24,670 General, I was at the Alexandria Baptist Church yesterday when you gave your 22 00:01:24,670 --> 00:01:25,529 guest sermon. 23 00:01:25,530 --> 00:01:30,770 You described Islam as a second -rate religion and said we're doing battle 24 00:01:30,770 --> 00:01:31,770 the devil. 25 00:01:32,850 --> 00:01:39,590 What I said in church and what I believe is simply that the United 26 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:43,030 States is engaged in a global war against evil. 27 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:45,530 General Watson, are you admitting to this accusation? 28 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:50,420 This media frenzy over General Watson has reached from Norway to Zanzibar. 29 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:52,300 Zanzibar, folks. 30 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:55,860 Belief. It doesn't do us any good anywhere. 31 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,600 International community is already suspicious of our motives. 32 00:02:59,820 --> 00:03:02,760 I agree the general may have chosen his words poorly. 33 00:03:02,980 --> 00:03:05,660 However, what he said is not entirely false. 34 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,860 We are at war with a decidedly evil people. General Watson sounded like he 35 00:03:10,860 --> 00:03:12,360 equating evil with Islam. 36 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,440 Well, that's not what he said, but that's how some of our allies and 37 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,960 going to interpret it. Well, if we're going to reassure them that the general 38 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,140 not a fanatic, we need to know what else he said. 39 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,580 Did he really call Islam a second -rate religion? 40 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,640 Well, the last I checked, church sermons were protected by the constitutional 41 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:33,440 provisions for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. 42 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,180 Military personnel are not as free as other Americans, Commander. 43 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,620 The DOD, IG, and the Marine Corps have requested Jag investigate the General's 44 00:03:43,620 --> 00:03:48,560 remarks. We'll get right on it, sir. I'm not eager to see General Watson get 45 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,180 burned. He's a courageous officer, and he's proved vital in our 46 00:03:52,180 --> 00:03:53,520 counterinsurgency efforts. 47 00:03:54,660 --> 00:04:01,440 Mr. Secretary, in order for us to reassure our allies, or anyone 48 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,000 else for that matter, our investigation needs to be independent of any undue 49 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,080 pressure. Of course, A .J. 50 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,860 And I'd like to say that I'm glad the general will be investigated by someone 51 00:04:13,860 --> 00:04:15,400 Muslim heritage. 52 00:04:15,660 --> 00:04:17,459 I think that'll enhance our credibility. 53 00:04:17,980 --> 00:04:21,399 Sir, I don't feel comfortable having my cultural background factor in my 54 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:27,280 assignments. Well, Colonel, I've come to learn that religion is a factor in 55 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:28,280 everything. 56 00:04:29,740 --> 00:04:30,740 Good luck. 57 00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:34,940 And do me one little favor. 58 00:04:36,010 --> 00:04:37,110 Don't talk to the press. 59 00:04:39,790 --> 00:04:45,230 When you're on patrol in Baghdad or manning a rocky checkpoint, what do you 60 00:04:45,230 --> 00:04:47,310 think would be the most important phrase to know? 61 00:04:48,670 --> 00:04:49,670 Yes, Captain. 62 00:04:50,630 --> 00:04:53,630 Stop or I will shoot. 63 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:56,230 Yes, Admiral. 64 00:04:57,050 --> 00:05:00,030 Actually, that means stop or I will release the mice. 65 00:05:02,410 --> 00:05:05,330 What you want is... Oh, 66 00:05:06,770 --> 00:05:12,570 people, let's try and get that right. But I think there's another phrase when 67 00:05:12,570 --> 00:05:14,550 Iraq you would find to be very important. 68 00:05:15,370 --> 00:05:22,370 And that is... We are here to help you. 69 00:05:22,730 --> 00:05:23,730 Very good, General. 70 00:05:23,970 --> 00:05:28,290 I'll quit while I'm ahead. Let us thank Amir Sattar for her expert assistance. 71 00:05:31,660 --> 00:05:35,720 I want you to have everything in your notebooks fully digested by 0800 72 00:05:36,380 --> 00:05:37,380 Dismissed. 73 00:05:38,020 --> 00:05:39,020 Aye, sir. 74 00:05:39,140 --> 00:05:40,140 Thank you, Amira. 75 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,360 You're welcome, General. 76 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:42,960 General. Sir. 77 00:05:44,340 --> 00:05:47,760 Lieutenant Colonel McKenzie, I'm Commander Rapp over at Headquarters Jag. 78 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Colonel. Hello, sir. Commander. 79 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,460 I was told to expect a visit. Please, have a seat. Thank you, sir. 80 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,640 What would you like to know? 81 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:58,700 Well, sir, why don't we start with what you said at the church? 82 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,960 According to Jill Waddington, the CNN reporter, you called Islam a second 83 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,580 religion. I don't recall my exact words. I suspect Mrs. Waddington exaggerated. 84 00:06:07,660 --> 00:06:10,080 But I probably did say something like that, yes. 85 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,680 You're offended. 86 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,880 We're listening. 87 00:06:14,220 --> 00:06:18,380 Commander, I'm aware that in this morally relativistic age, I am supposed 88 00:06:18,380 --> 00:06:23,020 declare every religion equal, and Christianity is no better than 89 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,000 But I believe that any religion that doesn't accept Jesus Christ as our 90 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,420 is not following the true path. If that makes me insensitive, then so be it. 91 00:06:32,940 --> 00:06:36,940 Well, sir, you're certainly honest, but you're essentially dividing the world 92 00:06:36,940 --> 00:06:41,700 into Christians and infidels. That's not a word I would use, Colonel. Sir, did 93 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:46,260 you, as the reporter claims, state that this country is presently doing battle 94 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:47,149 with the devil? 95 00:06:47,150 --> 00:06:50,810 Commander, whether you believe the devil is real or just a metaphor, wouldn't 96 00:06:50,810 --> 00:06:53,830 you agree that an evil force was behind 9 -11? 97 00:06:54,190 --> 00:06:56,270 Well, that would be difficult to deny, General. 98 00:06:56,490 --> 00:06:59,550 Sir, in your guest sermon, did you equate Islam with evil? 99 00:06:59,970 --> 00:07:04,810 No, but there are certain aspects of Islam that trouble me. 100 00:07:05,290 --> 00:07:09,110 The religion has a warrior streak that is too easily appropriated as a 101 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:11,410 justification for holy war and terrorism. 102 00:07:11,730 --> 00:07:16,210 In all fairness, sir, Islam explicitly condemns terrorism. And Christianity has 103 00:07:16,210 --> 00:07:20,390 been misused to justify everything from enslaving Africans to massacring 104 00:07:20,390 --> 00:07:21,289 American Indians. 105 00:07:21,290 --> 00:07:25,150 That's true, Colonel, and I condemn that as well. But Ms. Waddington only 106 00:07:25,150 --> 00:07:27,130 mentioned part of my sermon. 107 00:07:27,450 --> 00:07:28,910 What was the other part, sir? 108 00:07:29,150 --> 00:07:32,610 that all the world's peoples are our brothers and sisters, and it is our 109 00:07:32,610 --> 00:07:35,690 Christian duty to protect them from tyranny and violence. 110 00:07:36,050 --> 00:07:39,370 But don't trust my recollection of the sermon, Commander. Ask the people who 111 00:07:39,370 --> 00:07:40,370 heard me speak. 112 00:07:42,250 --> 00:07:46,550 General Watson was recommended to me by a minister in Norfolk. The general gave 113 00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:50,010 a guest sermon there last year. Were you happy with the guest sermon the general 114 00:07:50,010 --> 00:07:51,010 gave this past Sunday? 115 00:07:51,490 --> 00:07:53,450 I don't see what all the fuss is about. 116 00:07:53,970 --> 00:07:57,450 His message was, everybody is your neighbor. 117 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,920 And you have to love thy neighbor as thyself. 118 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,280 I've been the secretary here since 1972, 119 00:08:03,980 --> 00:08:07,880 having missed a single Sunday service since the start. Then you heard General 120 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Watson's sermon. 121 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,460 You won't tell Reverend Owens everything I said, will you? Not if you don't want 122 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:17,380 me to. To be honest, I felt kind of uncomfortable. 123 00:08:17,820 --> 00:08:20,940 General Watson came down pretty hard on Islam. 124 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:22,580 What exactly did he say? 125 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:28,080 He said Muslims believe it's their religious duty to conquer the infidels. 126 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:34,240 said most Muslims are good, peaceful people and very religiously observant. 127 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,200 he never indicated that Islam was somehow evil? 128 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,620 Absolutely not. 129 00:08:39,220 --> 00:08:44,340 He said all religions are second to Christianity, but we should respect 130 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:50,720 He never exactly called Islam evil, but he said according to opinion polls, most 131 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,320 Muslims support the terrorists. 132 00:08:52,750 --> 00:08:55,270 He emphasized most Muslims hate the terrorists. 133 00:08:55,610 --> 00:08:58,130 He even mentioned some opinion polls to that effect. 134 00:08:58,470 --> 00:09:02,030 He went on like that for over an hour. Then he was going to do a slideshow. 135 00:09:02,490 --> 00:09:05,070 Thankfully, the projector broke down. 136 00:09:05,790 --> 00:09:10,670 Unfortunately, the projector broke down, but I could have listened to General 137 00:09:10,670 --> 00:09:11,670 Watson forever. 138 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:12,970 He was inspiring. 139 00:09:13,930 --> 00:09:15,550 A true man of God. 140 00:09:17,570 --> 00:09:20,890 My father was a Navy chaplain since before I was born. 141 00:09:21,390 --> 00:09:22,390 Thank you. 142 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:25,860 I never heard him once say a single negative word about another religion. 143 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:28,580 no matter how we handle this, we'll offend a lot of people. 144 00:09:29,260 --> 00:09:30,540 You okay? 145 00:09:31,380 --> 00:09:35,340 Yeah, I'm fine, except I could use some help on this case. I'd be glad to. Just 146 00:09:35,340 --> 00:09:38,000 let me know if I get overly sanctimonious. 147 00:09:38,260 --> 00:09:39,260 You, Sturgis? 148 00:09:43,940 --> 00:09:44,940 Oh, boy. 149 00:09:45,860 --> 00:09:47,980 What? I was hoping this would go away. 150 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,640 I'm being investigated. 151 00:09:51,220 --> 00:09:52,220 For what? 152 00:09:53,420 --> 00:09:58,180 We have another cultural insensitivity case. Commander Turner stands accused of 153 00:09:58,180 --> 00:09:59,480 anti -Korean bias. 154 00:10:00,380 --> 00:10:05,400 That surprises me, sir. Last fall, Commander and Lieutenant Yee were 155 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,060 interrogate some North Korean submariners. Lieutenant Yee claims the 156 00:10:09,060 --> 00:10:11,800 attitudes caused the Navy to lose valuable intel. 157 00:10:12,020 --> 00:10:13,300 I want you to investigate. 158 00:10:14,140 --> 00:10:17,720 I've never heard the commander make any anti -Korean or anti -Asian remarks, 159 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,300 sir. Well, if these allegations prove true, I want them documented. But if 160 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:23,960 they're false, I want Turner's record cleared. Understood? 161 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Yes, sir. 162 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,080 What? 163 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,160 I was in the same position a year ago, sir. I had Commander Turner's 164 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,420 professional future in my hands. 165 00:10:34,660 --> 00:10:36,780 Well, fortunately, he survived that experience. 166 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:38,759 Barely, sir. 167 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,840 Well, he'll do fine. That'll be all. Yes, sir. 168 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,560 So what do you got on General Watson? We've talked to seven people who heard 169 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:49,180 guest sermon last Sunday, sir. And each one has a different story. But taken 170 00:10:49,180 --> 00:10:53,040 together, they indicate General Watson publicly denigrated Islam. The evidence 171 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,260 is highly ambiguous, sir. Do you two ever get tired of disagreeing? Yes, sir. 172 00:10:58,060 --> 00:11:02,100 Sir, if the colonel is correct, General Watson is guilty of conduct unbecoming. 173 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,460 Not only that, his public statements may be undermining our war on terrorism. 174 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:08,500 Sir, I think we're being roped into a politically correct witch hunt. Some 175 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:11,960 overly ambitious TV reporter makes exaggerated claims. Suddenly we're all 176 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,740 jumping through hoops. Well, Commander, you're going to need a 12 -foot ladder 177 00:11:15,740 --> 00:11:18,660 for this one. I taped this about 10 minutes ago. 178 00:11:20,460 --> 00:11:22,060 some stunning new developments in the story. 179 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,320 Two and a half years ago, CNN shot footage of a church service at a Marine 180 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,319 base in Virginia. 181 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,340 That footage never aired at the time. But when the current controversy 182 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,260 our new staff was able to locate the tape. The speaker you're about to see is 183 00:11:35,260 --> 00:11:37,120 Marine General Earl Watson. 184 00:11:37,380 --> 00:11:43,160 Our nation is under attack from men who believe, as the Koran says, that you 185 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,020 must fight the unbeliever wherever you find them. 186 00:11:46,540 --> 00:11:49,860 We are locked in a worldwide struggle. 187 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,680 And our enemy thinks that we are soft. 188 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Well, they are about to find out that we are a mighty Christian army and we will 189 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,760 win this holy war. 190 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:15,020 General Watson has been awarded two silver stars and a purple heart. 191 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:18,760 He served his country with distinction for 25 years. 192 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:22,580 He knew the rules, sir. As a high -ranking officer, you've got to watch 193 00:12:22,580 --> 00:12:23,580 tongue. 194 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,860 I'll bet you enjoy that part of the job, don't you, A .J.? At any rate, a court 195 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:32,780 of inquiry has been convened to examine General Watson's conduct. 196 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:34,800 I think that's a wise decision, sir. 197 00:12:35,020 --> 00:12:37,860 Yes, and I want to keep it closed to the press. 198 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,700 Minister, you are aware that a court of inquiry can recommend anything from a 199 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:43,680 complete exoneration to a court -martial. 200 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,120 I'd tell you the result that I'm hoping for, but I guess to avoid impropriety, 201 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:50,640 I'd better hold my tongue. 202 00:12:51,060 --> 00:12:53,180 Bet you enjoy that part of the job, don't you, sir? 203 00:12:53,420 --> 00:12:54,420 Oh, yeah. 204 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:00,000 I realize we can't stop people from being prejudiced, but there's no excuse 205 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,920 shooting off your mouth and alienating half the world. So when it comes to 206 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,440 prejudice, don't ask, don't tell. 207 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,680 Colonel McKenzie, Jill Waddington, DNN. We've already met. Who authorized you to 208 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:10,299 be in the building? 209 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:12,040 I have a meeting with the Public Affairs Office. 210 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,140 Why is this inquiry being held in private? With all due respect, Miss 211 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:16,460 Waddington, we have nothing to say. 212 00:13:16,700 --> 00:13:18,720 Is Jack attempting to whitewash General Watson's actions? 213 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,460 The PAO's office is upstairs. 214 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:23,900 Colonel, because your general acted inappropriately, is that a reason to be 215 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:24,900 angry with the press? 216 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,120 How did she get onto General Watson in the first place? 217 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,320 She said she was driving past the church and she just happened to see General 218 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,280 Watson's name on the message board out front. 219 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:35,700 That sounds convenient. 220 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,840 You think she had a source? 221 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,220 I'll have to peen her phone records. 222 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:41,700 The general apparently used slides during his talks. We should get a hold 223 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:42,700 those, too. 224 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,180 I feel a little hypocritical. 225 00:13:44,970 --> 00:13:48,150 I'm being investigated for prejudice, and here I am going PC on the General. 226 00:13:48,250 --> 00:13:51,890 Your case is totally different than General Watson's. Both of us could have 227 00:13:51,890 --> 00:13:52,869 careers destroyed. 228 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:56,970 Sturgis, there's no way you're guilty. You're far too obsessively rational to 229 00:13:56,970 --> 00:13:57,990 prejudiced against anyone. 230 00:13:58,390 --> 00:13:59,550 Thanks, I think. 231 00:14:00,010 --> 00:14:02,690 Besides, I'm sure Lieutenant Roberts will determine there's nothing to it. 232 00:14:03,990 --> 00:14:04,990 What is investigating? 233 00:14:06,330 --> 00:14:07,770 I thought you knew. 234 00:14:10,250 --> 00:14:12,150 Our nation is under attack. 235 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:17,040 from men who believe, as the Koran says, that they must fight the unbeliever 236 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,200 wherever they find them. 237 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,980 Members of the court, this quote is often used to prove that Islam is a 238 00:14:23,980 --> 00:14:24,980 religion. 239 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:30,360 It's taken totally out of context. It actually refers to a war 1 ,500 years 240 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,700 between a small Muslim community and the local tribesmen who were torturing and 241 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:37,820 killing them. I will grant the general may have misinterpreted the Koran. 242 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,460 However, that has little to do with the issue at this court of inquiry. 243 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:45,200 The general in uniform and in public has been feeding false stereotypes about 244 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,920 Islam. Let's watch the rest of it, Colonel. 245 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,520 We are engaged in a worldwide struggle. 246 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,260 And our enemy thinks that we are soft. 247 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:02,140 But they are about to find out that we are a mighty Christian army and we will 248 00:15:02,140 --> 00:15:04,040 win this holy war. 249 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,620 The terrorists don't represent Islam any more than the Ku Klux Klan represents 250 00:15:09,620 --> 00:15:14,680 Christianity. The general refers to a mighty Christian army, a holy war. 251 00:15:15,290 --> 00:15:19,170 Our president has been very explicit that this is not a religious war. Our 252 00:15:19,170 --> 00:15:23,250 president also used the word crusade, which has a definite religious subtext. 253 00:15:23,450 --> 00:15:27,330 Religion is a part of life. Our leaders need to feel they can speak without 254 00:15:27,330 --> 00:15:31,390 censoring their every word. This kind of loose talk endangers our national 255 00:15:31,390 --> 00:15:35,730 security. There is no evidence that a few inappropriate words will have any 256 00:15:35,730 --> 00:15:36,730 impact whatsoever. 257 00:15:37,050 --> 00:15:41,670 It's bad enough that some radical Islamists are talking holy war. We don't 258 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:43,210 our own generals following suit. 259 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:48,280 Now, the Arab street is watching this. A few more tapes like this, and Osama 260 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,980 won't need to make his videos anymore. 261 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Gentlemen, I gave this sermon five days after 9 -11. 262 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,380 We were pulling bodies from the rubble. Our nation was under attack. I wasn't 263 00:15:58,380 --> 00:16:00,800 paying attention to the niceties of speech. 264 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,260 Did you clear your comments with public affairs in advance? 265 00:16:05,820 --> 00:16:08,660 Public affairs had a lot on its plate at the time. 266 00:16:08,900 --> 00:16:11,200 Were you aware the media would be at this church service? 267 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,820 No, I flew in from Tampa the night before. 268 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,300 But when you arrived at the chapel and saw the TV news crews, why didn't you 269 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:20,320 moderate your comments? 270 00:16:20,620 --> 00:16:24,400 I believe the general has answered their question, sir. 9 -11 was not a time for 271 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,300 moderation. Emotions were running high. 272 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,300 Yes, it was a crisis situation. 273 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:32,000 Exactly when we need our military leaders at their best. 274 00:16:35,020 --> 00:16:36,020 Sir, 275 00:16:39,420 --> 00:16:40,940 we need that press release this afternoon. 276 00:16:41,550 --> 00:16:45,590 Apple letters to the editor saying that General Watson deserves a Medal of 277 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:48,510 Honor. The other half say he should be hung upside down by his coat. 278 00:16:48,930 --> 00:16:50,670 Well, we are a divided country, sir. 279 00:16:51,170 --> 00:16:53,850 Fortunately, we Americans have one thing in common. 280 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:55,170 Bad traffic? 281 00:16:55,230 --> 00:16:57,730 Baseball. Actually, sir, I'm not much of a fan. 282 00:16:59,170 --> 00:17:01,050 I've fired people for less coats. 283 00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:03,850 Sir, I told Secnav we'd fax it to him by 1500. 284 00:17:06,089 --> 00:17:06,989 Very well. 285 00:17:06,990 --> 00:17:08,690 You take shorthand, right? 286 00:17:08,910 --> 00:17:10,450 Yes, sir. I took a course last summer. 287 00:17:11,050 --> 00:17:14,130 I must say I found it much more enlightening than my Psychology 101 288 00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:15,390 Okay. 289 00:17:16,730 --> 00:17:23,349 The formal inquiry into General Earl 290 00:17:23,349 --> 00:17:26,970 Watson's conduct is expected to be completed by the end of this week. 291 00:17:28,290 --> 00:17:34,370 In the meantime, may I suggest that we set aside all our religious differences 292 00:17:34,370 --> 00:17:39,910 and instead concentrate our efforts on bringing a... 293 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:46,080 Major League Baseball came back to the fine city of Washington, D .C. 294 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,220 I don't think that will fly, sir. 295 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,280 Why don't I work on a first draft and then bring it in to you, sir? 296 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,960 Thanks, Coates. 297 00:17:56,220 --> 00:17:57,220 You're welcome, sir. 298 00:17:59,140 --> 00:18:02,320 Tell me something, Arm. Were you offended by the General's comments about 299 00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:05,140 A lot of things offend me, Mac. It's what gets me going in the morning. 300 00:18:05,340 --> 00:18:08,600 Seriously. Look, do I agree with all of General Watson's views? No. 301 00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:12,360 However... The general has spent his life protecting our freedoms. Now we're 302 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:16,300 trying to take away his right to freedom of religion and freedom of speech. 303 00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:19,480 Colonel? Now, doesn't that offend you? 304 00:18:23,740 --> 00:18:24,740 What is it? 305 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:26,920 Jill Waddington's cell phone records. 306 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:31,480 Prior to visiting Alexandria Baptist Church, she spoke on the phone twice 307 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,480 Marine corporal. 308 00:18:33,220 --> 00:18:34,220 Sorry. 309 00:18:39,210 --> 00:18:40,210 This is for you, Lieutenant. 310 00:18:40,690 --> 00:18:43,390 I understand you're the point man on the Lieutenant Yee investigation. 311 00:18:43,910 --> 00:18:45,350 It's not something I requested, sir. 312 00:18:45,610 --> 00:18:47,350 I put together all my papers for you on the matter. 313 00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:48,670 You bruised them at your leisure. 314 00:18:49,670 --> 00:18:50,670 Thank you, sir. 315 00:18:51,970 --> 00:18:53,070 Don't you worry about it, Lieutenant. 316 00:18:53,790 --> 00:18:54,830 I'm sure you'll do a fine job. 317 00:18:58,410 --> 00:19:04,850 Ma 'am, is there any way to keep my identity a secret? 318 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:06,490 What are you concerned about, Corporal Homo? 319 00:19:06,930 --> 00:19:08,630 No one likes a whistleblower, ma 'am. 320 00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:12,010 That's why I asked Miss Waddington not to tell anyone about me. And how did you 321 00:19:12,010 --> 00:19:13,010 meet Miss Waddington? 322 00:19:13,250 --> 00:19:14,670 I met her at Parris Island. 323 00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:17,070 She was doing a story on boot camp. 324 00:19:17,530 --> 00:19:20,630 So a couple weeks ago, when I heard that General Watson was getting a high 325 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:24,070 -profile assignment from CENTCOM, I decided to call her. And why was that, 326 00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:25,070 Corporal? 327 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:30,090 Ma 'am, did you know that speech they're showing on TV from after 9 -11? 328 00:19:31,030 --> 00:19:32,030 Well, I was there. 329 00:19:32,190 --> 00:19:33,190 And it upset you? 330 00:19:33,470 --> 00:19:35,010 Yes, ma 'am. I'm a Muslim. 331 00:19:35,820 --> 00:19:40,240 What were you doing at a church service, Corporal? It was not a church service, 332 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,320 ma 'am. 333 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,620 It was an interfaith service, ma 'am. That's how it was advertised in the 334 00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:50,420 command plan of the day. As a time for all Marines to come together, no matter 335 00:19:50,420 --> 00:19:52,140 what their religion, and pray together. 336 00:19:52,660 --> 00:19:54,000 And that's why you went there? 337 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:59,000 Ma 'am, when 9 -11 happened, a lot of off -colored comments got thrown around. 338 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:01,780 Rag had this, and Towel had that. 339 00:20:02,410 --> 00:20:06,170 I thought this service would be a chance to worship with my fellow Marines and 340 00:20:06,170 --> 00:20:07,230 feel solidarity. 341 00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:09,450 Is that the way it worked out, Corporal Humlode? 342 00:20:09,670 --> 00:20:14,470 No, ma 'am. When General Watson started trash -talking Islam, it seemed like my 343 00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:15,810 country was turning against me. 344 00:20:16,290 --> 00:20:17,470 That must have been distressing. 345 00:20:17,690 --> 00:20:19,670 Ma 'am, I'm getting out of the Marine Corps next month. 346 00:20:20,070 --> 00:20:24,050 Now, I don't blame my decision on General Watson, but his speech sure 347 00:20:24,050 --> 00:20:25,050 make me want to re -enlist. 348 00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:28,270 Corporal, were you the only non -Christian at the service? 349 00:20:28,810 --> 00:20:32,830 There were at least two other Muslims and two Jews that I knew of, ma 'am, and 350 00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:34,090 they were all very upset also. 351 00:20:36,090 --> 00:20:37,910 Does counsel for the party have any questions? 352 00:20:38,210 --> 00:20:39,210 Yes, I do. 353 00:20:40,090 --> 00:20:43,390 Corporal Hammoud, did you ever hear General Watson say anything questionable 354 00:20:43,390 --> 00:20:44,670 other than that one time? 355 00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:48,670 No, sir, but I didn't have much contact with him. So then would you agree that 356 00:20:48,670 --> 00:20:51,290 there are many Muslims serving in the Marine Corps who are happy? 357 00:20:51,530 --> 00:20:54,470 I do know several Muslims who are relatively content, yes, sir. 358 00:20:54,810 --> 00:20:58,330 So then there is no anti -Muslim sentiment that pervades the Marine 359 00:20:59,150 --> 00:21:03,410 I'd say when it comes to anti -Muslim prejudice, the Marine Corps is about the 360 00:21:03,410 --> 00:21:05,110 same as the rest of society, sir. 361 00:21:05,910 --> 00:21:08,850 But our leaders shouldn't be out there fanning the flames, sir. 362 00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:17,570 When 9 -11 happened, we were all in a state of shock. 363 00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:22,130 To some extent, that excuses General Watson's actions. 364 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:27,680 However... The General disobeyed military regulations by delivering a 365 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,440 potentially inflammatory speech in front of the press, in uniform, without 366 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,600 getting it cleared beforehand. 367 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:38,860 Furthermore, there is some evidence that he has continued a pattern of 368 00:21:38,860 --> 00:21:40,620 questionable remarks since then. 369 00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:46,480 General Watson, your rhetoric has damaged our nation's relations with our 370 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,460 allies. Your outspoken views disrupted good order and discipline within the 371 00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:52,460 Marine Corps. 372 00:21:52,510 --> 00:21:56,130 This court of inquiry recommends that you be charged with dereliction of duty 373 00:21:56,130 --> 00:22:01,150 and conduct unbecoming an officer, and that these charges be disposed of at 374 00:22:01,150 --> 00:22:02,270 general court -martial. 375 00:22:14,050 --> 00:22:18,430 All the major American networks in Al Jazeera will be covering the court 376 00:22:18,430 --> 00:22:22,000 -martial. By the time this is over, sir, General Watson's controversial 377 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,900 statements about Islam will be seen by hundreds of millions of people. Why 378 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:28,480 we just accept the fact that some of our leaders have strong opinions and that's 379 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,480 what makes them great leaders? Great leaders don't actively promote the clash 380 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,680 civilizations. Mac, that was the media's doing. 381 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,560 General Watson merely stated his belief that God is not neutral in the struggle 382 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,000 between freedom and terrorism. No, I think God would prefer it if people 383 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,480 throw his name around quite so much. 384 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:49,110 Good morning, everybody. 385 00:22:49,390 --> 00:22:50,169 Mr. Secretary. 386 00:22:50,170 --> 00:22:51,170 As you were. 387 00:22:51,910 --> 00:22:56,810 I just dropped by to thank the Admiral for keeping the investigation of General 388 00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:58,090 Watson so quiet. 389 00:22:58,670 --> 00:23:02,970 Sir, there is no way... Just kidding. Just kidding, A .J. At this point, we'll 390 00:23:02,970 --> 00:23:04,610 just let the chips fall where they may. 391 00:23:05,070 --> 00:23:09,330 Let's show our allies and our enemies American military jurisprudence at its 392 00:23:09,330 --> 00:23:10,990 finest. Yes, sir. 393 00:23:11,530 --> 00:23:15,130 Colonel McKenzie, who are you planning to have testify? 394 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:17,360 Actually, Mr. 395 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Secretary, I was thinking of calling you. 396 00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:25,620 General Watson is charged with speeding up the flow of intel to all field units 397 00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:27,460 that are tracking top -ranked terrorists. 398 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Sir, have the General's comments about Islam affected his ability to fulfill 399 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,480 mission? Now that they've been publicized, they could have a negative 400 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:36,580 yes. In what way? 401 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,060 Objection calls for speculation. 402 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,200 It's well within the witness's field of expertise. 403 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,720 Overruled. 404 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,680 The general allegedly said that we're engaged in a war against Islam. That 405 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,120 make some Iraqis less likely to cooperate with our military. 406 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,340 Mr. Secretary, could this endanger the safety of our troops in the field? 407 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:56,120 Objection, Your Honor. Again, overruled. 408 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,540 In general, when we don't have cooperation, the safety of our troops 409 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:05,180 issue. Sir, have general statements given ammunition to Islamic extremists 410 00:24:05,180 --> 00:24:08,320 their efforts to gain new recruits? They could have, yes. 411 00:24:08,830 --> 00:24:11,970 And now the general statements affected Muslims in the United States military. 412 00:24:12,330 --> 00:24:14,610 I can't imagine they're too happy about it. 413 00:24:14,910 --> 00:24:18,630 They didn't sign up to be in a Christian army. They signed up to be American 414 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:19,630 servicemen and women. 415 00:24:19,890 --> 00:24:20,890 Thank you, Mr. Secretary. 416 00:24:21,050 --> 00:24:22,050 You're welcome. 417 00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:26,710 Aside from Marine Corporal Hamoud, have any other Muslim servicemen ever 418 00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:27,990 complained about General Watson? 419 00:24:28,190 --> 00:24:31,450 According to headquarters Marine Corps, there have been no other complaints. 420 00:24:31,810 --> 00:24:34,970 Have the general's words had any clear and direct impact on the war on 421 00:24:34,970 --> 00:24:38,820 terrorism? There's been no direct impact that I could quantify. 422 00:24:39,180 --> 00:24:43,440 Have the general statements inflamed any moderate Muslims and caused them to 423 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,900 pick up the bloody sword of jihad? 424 00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:46,420 Not to my knowledge, Commander. 425 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,980 How has the general performed in his mission to capture Saddam Hussein and 426 00:24:49,980 --> 00:24:51,080 Baathist loyalists, sir? 427 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,680 Admirably. He was instrumental in the capture of over 45 of the targets in the 428 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,740 famous deck of cards. 429 00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:02,100 Do you feel, Mr. Secretary, removing General Watson from his assignment would 430 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,180 negatively impact the war on terrorism? 431 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,520 You could definitely make that argument. 432 00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:11,260 You have calls from the Anti -Defamation League, the Council for Islamic 433 00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:14,240 Relations, the American Association of Churches. 434 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,360 Coach, in the 1930s, do you know who the most famous Jew was? 435 00:25:20,580 --> 00:25:24,140 Albert Einstein, sir. More famous than Einstein. 436 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,680 Sigmund Freud. 437 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,040 More famous than Freud. 438 00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:30,420 I give up, sir. 439 00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:32,500 Hank Greenberg. 440 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,360 Hank Greenberg, sir? A .K .A. 441 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,600 Hammerin' Hank. 442 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,520 Hall of Fame first baseman, left fielder, led the Detroit Tigers to four 443 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Series. 444 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,080 Figures this would be about baseball, sir. Hank Greenberg did more to combat 445 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,500 anti -Semitism in the 30s than any other man. 446 00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:55,660 When you're rooting for a Jewish guy to hit one over the fence, it makes it 447 00:25:55,660 --> 00:25:56,660 harder to hate Jews. 448 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:01,020 Don't you know what this world needs? 449 00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:06,170 Stockings that don't run, sir. A Muslim who can hit 60 home runs. 450 00:26:06,510 --> 00:26:08,750 But we have had famous Muslim athletes, sir. 451 00:26:08,970 --> 00:26:10,830 Muhammad Ali, Kareem Abdul -Jabbar. 452 00:26:11,050 --> 00:26:15,730 Oh, I know, I know, but it's not baseball. 453 00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:21,930 Petty officer, may I ask you for a minute? Is something wrong, ma 'am? In 454 00:26:21,930 --> 00:26:22,930 office. 455 00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:30,950 Petty officer, we have a question. 456 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,640 Is Meredith's marriage to the Admiral on or off? 457 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,720 Sir, I don't think I'm at liberty. We need to know for sure, Jennifer, 458 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,880 one of us is going to embarrass ourselves by asking. 459 00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:44,200 Incurring the Admiral's wrath, which we don't want. I hear that. 460 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Sir. We have to know if the wedding is on so that we can all make plans. 461 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,420 Sir, the Admiral has never told me anything directly. 462 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:52,740 You know something. 463 00:26:54,340 --> 00:26:55,500 Yes, sir, I do. 464 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,640 And those are two words the Admiral won't be saying. 465 00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:05,270 Americans, for some reason, can't seem to tell the difference between real 466 00:27:05,270 --> 00:27:06,890 and the terrorist perversion of Islam. 467 00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:11,290 When I saw the General's sermon on television, I was disturbed. 468 00:27:11,670 --> 00:27:14,530 Why is that, General Jabra? I've always admired General Watson. 469 00:27:14,890 --> 00:27:16,990 I've fought beside him, I've trusted him with my life. 470 00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:20,590 Now I learn that he despises my religion. 471 00:27:21,210 --> 00:27:26,710 My feeling was, in a sense, he despises me. Did your fellow Iraqi military and 472 00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:28,750 police officers have similar reactions? 473 00:27:29,420 --> 00:27:32,560 Some of them heard the general. It didn't really bother them. They said it 474 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,560 just words. 475 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,580 How did the other Iraqi officers react? 476 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,680 Many Iraqis, including military officers, are saying, you see what these 477 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,680 Americans think of us? 478 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,000 No wonder the reconstruction is going so slowly that they don't really give a 479 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,200 damn. Thank you. 480 00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:49,380 You're a witness. 481 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,620 General, are the Iraqi people grateful that Saddam Hussein and his cohorts are 482 00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:56,740 gone? No question. 483 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,360 Are they aware of General Watson's role in that, sir? They know that the general 484 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,920 has been effective in bringing torturers and murderers to justice. 485 00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:08,320 Well, do you feel the Iraqi people, in the light of everything General Watson 486 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,840 has done, could forgive his comments? 487 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:12,020 I can only speak for myself, Commander. 488 00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:13,420 Oh, please do, sir. 489 00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:18,600 When I saw the general's comments on television, the ones that have been 490 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,700 verified, he made them right after 9 -11. 491 00:28:23,060 --> 00:28:27,120 For that reason, I am willing, as you would say, Cut him some slack. 492 00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:31,800 Also... Also what? 493 00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:35,180 I do not wish to offend. 494 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,460 However, I sometimes personally feel as though Christianity is a very odd 495 00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:42,460 religion. 496 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,640 You have a father, a son, a Holy Ghost. What is this? 497 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,400 One God, three Gods, what? 498 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,380 So, if I find your religion a little bizarre... 499 00:28:54,250 --> 00:28:58,130 I can't get too angry with you for finding mine equally strange. 500 00:29:00,610 --> 00:29:03,010 Today's witnesses were a mixed bag for the prosecution. 501 00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:07,210 In fact, some foreign observers question whether the prosecution is actually 502 00:29:07,210 --> 00:29:10,610 trying to win this case, since it could prove embarrassing for the government. 503 00:29:11,050 --> 00:29:13,670 Thank you, Jill. Well, that we agree on. 504 00:29:13,970 --> 00:29:15,870 Listen, I need your witness list for tomorrow. 505 00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:17,130 Still working on it. 506 00:29:17,260 --> 00:29:21,680 Mac, you know... Skip it, huh? I'm not interested in the deal. Neither am I. In 507 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,440 fact, I think you should have the charges dropped. 508 00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:24,599 Dream on. 509 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,380 All you have are statements the general made right after 9 -11. 510 00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:30,860 And the ones he made at the Alexandria Baptist Church less than one month ago. 511 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,680 There's no objective record of his statements, Mac. You call witnesses to 512 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,060 testify that he attacked Islam and the church. I'll call witnesses who remember 513 00:29:38,060 --> 00:29:39,060 the exact opposite. 514 00:29:41,260 --> 00:29:44,320 I believe Commander Turner is racially biased against Koreans. 515 00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:47,580 And you believe that this bias restricted your ability to gather intel? 516 00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:48,719 It did, Lieutenant. 517 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,720 In what way? 518 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,980 A North Korean submarine crew was rescued by one of our attack subs. 519 00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:57,560 Commander Turner allowed a sailor to antagonize a North Korean skipper, who 520 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,560 became mentally agitated. 521 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,160 Then Commander Turner supported him being tied up. 522 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,440 That shut him down completely, rendering him useless as an intelligent source. 523 00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:10,240 I'm sorry, Lieutenant. I don't understand how racial bias comes into 524 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,680 Commander Turner made statements which... 525 00:30:13,399 --> 00:30:15,160 suggested he had little respect for Koreans. 526 00:30:15,620 --> 00:30:19,280 I believe this attitude motivated his treatment of the North Korean skipper. 527 00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:25,160 It says here in your file that when you were a child, a black man robbed and 528 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,060 shot your father in this convenience store. 529 00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:31,260 Yes. Did that affect your opinion of Commander Turner? 530 00:30:31,540 --> 00:30:33,520 Commander Turner didn't shoot my father, Lieutenant. 531 00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:37,220 No, but I spoke with your father yesterday about the man who did shoot 532 00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:38,920 he referred to the assailant as a nigger. 533 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,100 Have you ever used that word, Lieutenant? 534 00:30:42,140 --> 00:30:45,600 No. How do you feel about your father using that word? I do not approve, 535 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,120 Lieutenant. But you understand why he speaks that way? 536 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,160 Yes. Did what happened make you angry, Lieutenant? 537 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,440 At times. 538 00:30:56,460 --> 00:30:57,600 As angry as your father? 539 00:31:00,020 --> 00:31:03,460 Lieutenant, you have had six months to think about your accusations. 540 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,980 Can you honestly tell me that you haven't at least once during that time 541 00:31:07,980 --> 00:31:09,200 questioned your motives? 542 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,420 Sturgis, we need to establish a continuing pattern of anti -Islamic 543 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,820 That would be good. 544 00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:23,840 Maybe we should call witnesses from the church in Alexandria. 545 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,700 We need some kind of physical evidence to back them up. 546 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,380 Anybody can claim someone else made prejudiced remarks. 547 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,380 Not much weight that should really carry. 548 00:31:32,540 --> 00:31:34,500 I understand Lieutenant Yee is topside. 549 00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,060 I'm sure it's going to be all right. 550 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,960 Racial issues are so subjective. 551 00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:40,440 How do you know for sure I'm not anti -Korean? 552 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,840 How do I know? 553 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:45,220 Well, for one thing, you don't have a continuing pattern of anti -Korean 554 00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:46,220 remarks. 555 00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:49,110 What is on your computer? 556 00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:53,290 These are the slides the General couldn't show in Alexandria because the 557 00:31:53,290 --> 00:31:54,310 projector broke down. 558 00:31:55,090 --> 00:31:56,430 I'm not sure where this is. 559 00:31:56,810 --> 00:32:00,070 Maybe Baghdad? Maybe he showed these at one of the other churches he spoke at 560 00:32:00,070 --> 00:32:01,730 recently. Anything we can use? 561 00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:03,930 Depends on the commentary he gave when he ran the slides. 562 00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:11,070 These are the same slides General Watson showed at my church in Baltimore five 563 00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:14,070 months ago. For the record, Reverend Haynes, what does this slide show? 564 00:32:14,890 --> 00:32:16,090 Our Lord Jesus Christ. 565 00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:18,650 And this next slide shows? 566 00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:20,350 The devil. 567 00:32:20,770 --> 00:32:22,070 And how about this one? 568 00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:26,710 It's a map of the world with the Muslim countries in red. 569 00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:29,290 Why did General Watson put this slide right after the devil? 570 00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:30,910 Objection calls for an opinion. 571 00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:32,310 I'll allow it for now. 572 00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:33,490 Overruled. 573 00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:38,830 He was making a point that in these Muslim countries, the devil is fighting 574 00:32:38,830 --> 00:32:39,830 power. 575 00:32:40,270 --> 00:32:43,250 And when he made this point, was the general wearing a Marine Corps uniform? 576 00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:44,950 Yes, he was. 577 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,380 Did the general explain the significance of this light? 578 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,900 It is a photograph that the general took of Baghdad on fire. 579 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,120 Why did he say he included this one? 580 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:03,940 When I invited the general to speak at my church, I wasn't aware 581 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:05,260 what his views were. 582 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,240 What did he say? 583 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,320 That if you look closely enough in the smoke, you can see the devil. 584 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,420 Exactly where would that be, Reverend Haynes? 585 00:33:21,580 --> 00:33:23,000 I really don't know, Commander. 586 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,160 Do you have a moment, sir? Come on in, Lieutenant. 587 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:39,900 Heard you had a good day in court. 588 00:33:40,340 --> 00:33:41,340 Sometimes you get lucky. 589 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,680 I have some information, sir. 590 00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:48,120 Just been informed that Lieutenant Yee has decided to drop all charges against 591 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,120 you. 592 00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:54,250 What did you say to him, Lieutenant? 593 00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:55,830 Oh, nothing special. 594 00:33:56,610 --> 00:33:59,370 Actually, I got him to think a little bit more about what he was saying, sir. 595 00:34:00,130 --> 00:34:01,650 Also, I threatened to punch his lights out. 596 00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:04,970 I appreciate that, Lieutenant. 597 00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:07,350 Sir, there was no way I was going to let you down this time. 598 00:34:10,889 --> 00:34:14,070 I believe that God is with us every day. 599 00:34:15,350 --> 00:34:16,510 He gives us signs. 600 00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:21,409 And the reason we pray is so that we can see these signs and understand God's 601 00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:22,328 will for us. 602 00:34:22,330 --> 00:34:25,590 And one of these signs appeared to you in the smoke over Baghdad. 603 00:34:25,929 --> 00:34:32,389 Commander, I believe that in the middle of that fierce battle, when my life 604 00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:38,710 and the lives of thousands of others were in danger, God allowed me to see 605 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:39,870 face of the devil. 606 00:34:45,610 --> 00:34:49,230 But you think I'm a nut, don't you? No, no, I don't, sir. 607 00:34:49,590 --> 00:34:54,690 I have no doubt that in war some people have very intense spiritual experiences. 608 00:34:57,050 --> 00:35:01,270 Unfortunately, we live in a profoundly anti -religious culture. 609 00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:04,910 Have you been watching the news, Commander? 610 00:35:05,330 --> 00:35:06,710 No, sir. I have. 611 00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:10,830 It's a mistake, General. They're going out of their way to make my religious 612 00:35:10,830 --> 00:35:12,290 belief look foolish. 613 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,540 Sir, tomorrow in your testimony, you're going to need to play down some of your 614 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:17,660 more controversial views. 615 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,820 I refuse to lie about what I believe in. General, like it or not, we need to 616 00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:24,580 counteract the bad press you've been getting. 617 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:34,400 Commander, I hate to take personal credit for deeds I've done in the name 618 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:40,780 Jesus, but perhaps there is one potential witness that might be of some 619 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,300 My husband, Eman, was in a unit commanded by General Jabra and General 620 00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:50,820 What happened to your husband, Mrs. Sattar? 621 00:35:51,620 --> 00:35:53,840 He was killed in a fedayeghin ambush. 622 00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:56,340 How did you meet General Watson, ma 'am? 623 00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:59,820 He came to our house to show his respect. 624 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,380 Then he found out I have breast cancer and the Iraqi hospital could not help 625 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:05,960 What did the general do? 626 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,220 He said that the United States owed my family because my husband fought so 627 00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:14,060 bravely. So he brought me to this country. 628 00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:19,020 I live in an apartment owned by his church. The church pays for my 629 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,160 Why did he do that, Mrs. Sattar? 630 00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:26,080 Because he is a good man. 631 00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:30,160 Has General Watson ever tried to convert you to Christianity? 632 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:35,620 General Watson and his fellow church members drive me to a mosque every 633 00:36:35,620 --> 00:36:36,620 night for services. 634 00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:40,480 Thank you, Mrs. Sattar, and I hope you recover fully, ma 'am. 635 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,400 Thank you. 636 00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:47,420 The government has no questions for this witness, Your Honor. 637 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,240 I can't change what I believe, and what I believe is that we are engaged in far 638 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:55,740 more than a physical battle. We are fighting for the good of mankind. 639 00:36:56,300 --> 00:37:00,020 Have your beliefs ever interfered in the performance of your duties, sir? On the 640 00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:03,400 contrary, Commander, my beliefs have given me the courage to go out on the 641 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,640 line and risk my life. 642 00:37:04,940 --> 00:37:08,080 Have you ever mistreated personnel under your command who didn't share your 643 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,968 beliefs, sir? 644 00:37:08,970 --> 00:37:12,450 I tried to treat people of every religion as if they were my brother and 645 00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:15,910 Is that why you brought Mr. Tatar to this country for medical treatment, sir? 646 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:17,470 Yes. 647 00:37:17,830 --> 00:37:21,430 Have you had problems with Muslims under your command in the past, sir? 648 00:37:21,830 --> 00:37:26,370 I've commanded Muslims and Jews and even Buddhists. The only problem I had was 649 00:37:26,370 --> 00:37:28,550 when the Buddhists kept beating everybody in poker. 650 00:37:30,610 --> 00:37:35,290 Why did you talk about your religious beliefs in public, sir? I talked about 651 00:37:35,290 --> 00:37:36,430 religion in churches. 652 00:37:37,070 --> 00:37:41,170 It's enough we can't pray in our schools now. I hope we haven't gotten to the 653 00:37:41,170 --> 00:37:45,190 point where a Christian man can't express Christian views while speaking 654 00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:46,290 a Christian church. 655 00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:47,910 Thank you, General. 656 00:37:48,970 --> 00:37:55,570 General Watson, when you speak in churches, are you acting as a private 657 00:37:55,570 --> 00:37:57,950 or as a spokesman for the United States military? 658 00:37:58,410 --> 00:37:59,410 As a private citizen. 659 00:37:59,610 --> 00:38:02,970 Well then, why wear your military uniform, sir? Doesn't that give people a 660 00:38:02,970 --> 00:38:03,970 impression? 661 00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:07,300 Colonel, I always make it clear that I'm giving personal witness. 662 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,940 Wouldn't it have been much more clear if you had chosen to wear civilian dress? 663 00:38:11,180 --> 00:38:14,440 The congregations understood that my opinions were my own. 664 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,640 Sir, did you ever clear your speeches with the chain of command or public 665 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,520 affairs as required by regulation? 666 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,380 These were church sermons, not public speeches. Well, they became very public, 667 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,400 didn't they, General? 668 00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:31,260 That wasn't my choice, Colonel. You spoke in front of a ZNN camera crew at 669 00:38:31,260 --> 00:38:32,260 interfaith service. 670 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,380 The service took place in a Marine chapel. 671 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,940 I assumed it was a regular church service. As far as speaking in front of 672 00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:44,080 crew, that was a mistake, especially since some of my statements were 673 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,500 mischaracterized by the media. 674 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,160 Well, let's talk about your statements, sir. 675 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,560 Did you say, as Reverend Haynes testified, that in all these Muslim 676 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,220 the devil is fighting for power? 677 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,200 I believe the devil is fighting for power all over the world. 678 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,560 Well, then why single out the Muslim countries? 679 00:39:01,180 --> 00:39:05,720 I wasn't criticizing Islam per se, but we'd be foolish not to recognize that 680 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:07,280 terrorists we're fighting are Muslims. 681 00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:11,360 So what exactly are you saying about Muslims, sir? Objection. The general's 682 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,320 personal beliefs are not on trial here. No, but his public statements expressing 683 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,620 them are overruled. 684 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,080 Please answer, sir. 685 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,440 I believe the vast majority of Muslims are good people. 686 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:27,270 But I also believe that Islam, throughout history... has frequently 687 00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:31,450 some of its practitioners to declare jihad, and that is what is happening 688 00:39:31,690 --> 00:39:33,230 What does jihad mean, sir? 689 00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:34,750 Holy war. 690 00:39:37,930 --> 00:39:42,390 General, are you aware that jihad actually means to struggle or strive for 691 00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:46,370 something, such as the welfare of one's fellow human beings, and is often used 692 00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:47,610 in a totally peaceful context? 693 00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:52,610 That's not how I've heard it used, Colonel. Sir, are you aware that Islam, 694 00:39:52,610 --> 00:39:56,370 Christianity and Judaism, only considers warfare justified if it's in self 695 00:39:56,370 --> 00:40:00,510 -defense or to liberate people who are suffering from persecution and tyranny? 696 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:06,670 I'm not aware of that, no. Are you aware that Islam, again, like Christianity 697 00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:11,030 and Judaism, has rules about war that prohibit killing children, women, the 698 00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:12,890 elderly, and other non -combatants? 699 00:40:13,150 --> 00:40:14,930 That's not the way the enemy's acting, Colonel. 700 00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:19,410 Sir, are you aware that Islam specifically prohibits suicide, 701 00:40:19,410 --> 00:40:20,410 bombing? 702 00:40:20,690 --> 00:40:24,190 And why are they doing it? Because they are not following Islam any more than 703 00:40:24,190 --> 00:40:25,750 Timothy McVeigh was following Christianity. 704 00:40:26,370 --> 00:40:28,810 Objection. Counsel is testifying now, Your Honor. 705 00:40:29,050 --> 00:40:32,000 Withdrawn. General, don't you think that you should know a little more about 706 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,200 Islam before you start discussing it in public? Your Honor, while the General 707 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,940 may not be an expert in comparative religions, that has little to do with 708 00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:42,540 court -martial. Your Honor, General Watson has spread false, hateful 709 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:45,700 against another religion, and in so doing, has hurt our image abroad, 710 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,320 contributing to the erosion of support within the Arab world, and possibly 711 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,760 increased risk for members of the U .S. military. Your Honor, save it for 712 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,760 closing arguments. 713 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,740 Do you have any more questions for this witness? 714 00:40:56,660 --> 00:40:57,660 Just one, Your Honor. 715 00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:05,940 General Watson, based on your experiences as a military officer, do 716 00:41:05,940 --> 00:41:10,700 that your statements on Islam aided the war on terrorism or damaged it? 717 00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:15,780 Colonel, I have devoted my life to the service of this country, and I believe I 718 00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:16,780 still have much to give. 719 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,260 You want to take me to task for being intolerant of Islam. Well, I asked you 720 00:41:21,260 --> 00:41:22,460 be tolerant of my beliefs. 721 00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:25,600 All I ever did was speak honestly from my heart. 722 00:41:26,570 --> 00:41:30,090 For that, I do not think I should be relieved of my duties in the Marine 723 00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:34,430 Defendant and counsel will rise. 724 00:41:36,070 --> 00:41:38,430 Will the senior member please announce the findings? 725 00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:42,170 Major General Earl Watson, United States Marine Corps. 726 00:41:43,070 --> 00:41:48,010 On the charges and specifications of dereliction of duty and conduct 727 00:41:48,010 --> 00:41:52,370 an officer, this court -martial finds you not guilty. 728 00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:00,980 General Watson, while this court has found you not guilty, I intend to 729 00:42:00,980 --> 00:42:05,660 to the convening authority that you be formally counseled and ordered not to 730 00:42:05,660 --> 00:42:07,520 assert your beliefs in public forums. 731 00:42:08,540 --> 00:42:10,340 Despite your impassioned statement, 732 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:15,460 the right of free speech in the military must be balanced with the primary 733 00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:17,620 mission of defending our country. 734 00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:23,420 There is no place for inflammatory remarks about religion in today's Marine 735 00:42:23,420 --> 00:42:24,420 Corps. 736 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,740 This court is hereby adjourned. 737 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,480 No hard feelings, Colonel. We're all serving our country in different ways. 738 00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:39,460 This was the scene today near Fallujah, where at least 18 Marines had been 739 00:42:39,460 --> 00:42:40,960 killed in a suicide bombing. 740 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,840 A previously unknown group called the Fire of Allah claimed responsibility for 741 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,100 what they called a glorious victory in this holy war. 742 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,060 Their message was delivered in an audio tape, which was left anonymously at the 743 00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:57,200 Al Jazeera headquarters in Cairo. 744 00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:01,260 If you'll excuse me. This is the deadliest single attack on American 745 00:43:01,260 --> 00:43:04,420 since the war in Iraq began over one year ago. 746 00:43:04,740 --> 00:43:07,800 Well, this is why we need men like General Watson. 747 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,480 Or not. 63881

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