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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.COM 1 00:00:07,465 --> 00:00:10,051 Have you ever asked God for forgiveness? 2 00:00:11,886 --> 00:00:14,073 That's a tough question. I... I don't think in terms of... 3 00:00:14,097 --> 00:00:15,682 I have... I'm a religious person. 4 00:00:15,765 --> 00:00:18,852 But have you ever asked God for forgiveness? 5 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:27,193 I'm not sure I have. I just go and try and do a better job from there. 6 00:00:27,277 --> 00:00:29,904 I don't think so. I think I... If I... 7 00:00:30,071 --> 00:00:33,241 If I do something wrong, I think I just try and make it right. 8 00:00:33,825 --> 00:00:36,661 I don't bring God into that picture. I don't. 9 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:41,332 In 2016, 10 00:00:41,458 --> 00:00:44,461 Doug Coe and his son, Tim Coe, and I 11 00:00:45,211 --> 00:00:48,673 were to go and meet with President Elect Trump at Trump Tower, 12 00:00:48,757 --> 00:00:49,841 to introduce 13 00:00:50,383 --> 00:00:52,260 the idea of the National Prayer Breakfast 14 00:00:52,343 --> 00:00:54,137 to the next President of the United States. 15 00:00:56,222 --> 00:00:57,932 Doug comes into the room 16 00:00:58,683 --> 00:01:00,310 and he said, 17 00:01:00,393 --> 00:01:04,314 "I've met with every president since Eisenhower. 18 00:01:04,397 --> 00:01:07,233 And... And they called... The first one... I met with Ike, 19 00:01:07,317 --> 00:01:08,902 and he wasn't from Washington, 20 00:01:09,110 --> 00:01:12,864 and he wasn't a politician, and you remind me of him. 21 00:01:13,031 --> 00:01:15,408 I would encourage you to use the Prayer Breakfast 22 00:01:15,492 --> 00:01:17,160 the same way Ike did." 23 00:01:17,660 --> 00:01:21,456 In this day of fear and hysteria, 24 00:01:21,539 --> 00:01:23,083 the United States is truly 25 00:01:23,708 --> 00:01:26,294 trying to follow in the footsteps of the Prince of Peace. 26 00:01:26,795 --> 00:01:28,505 And he challenged him to do that. 27 00:01:28,588 --> 00:01:30,298 The world is in trouble, 28 00:01:31,132 --> 00:01:33,343 but we're gonna straighten it out, okay? 29 00:01:33,426 --> 00:01:35,136 That's what I do. I fix things. 30 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:37,305 We're gonna straighten it out. 31 00:01:37,388 --> 00:01:38,473 We prayed. 32 00:01:38,973 --> 00:01:42,852 Everybody in the room had their hands on this President-Elect. 33 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:45,230 - Let's pray together, may we? - Yes. 34 00:01:45,313 --> 00:01:48,066 Doug commanded enormous respect 35 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:50,944 because of his longevity of commitment. 36 00:01:51,402 --> 00:01:53,863 Decades and decades that he had been the guy, 37 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:55,073 the central figure. 38 00:01:56,866 --> 00:01:59,244 And this was literally one of the last... 39 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:02,288 trips he got to take. 40 00:02:03,164 --> 00:02:05,291 Maybe three months before he left the earth. 41 00:02:06,876 --> 00:02:08,670 For this movement that's united, 42 00:02:09,212 --> 00:02:11,297 through small groups of men, 43 00:02:11,965 --> 00:02:13,925 an invisible organization, 44 00:02:14,843 --> 00:02:15,844 with their ambitions 45 00:02:15,927 --> 00:02:18,096 completely embodied in this one man... 46 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:21,141 And if that one man's not there anymore, 47 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:23,059 what happens next? 48 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:32,819 Come. All worry will be left behind. 49 00:02:33,695 --> 00:02:37,991 All disappointment, too, will be gone forever. 50 00:02:41,911 --> 00:02:45,415 We adopted a program for a worldwide spiritual offensive. 51 00:02:48,543 --> 00:02:50,920 I know, as never before, 52 00:02:51,462 --> 00:02:53,882 that we are all God's children. 53 00:02:56,009 --> 00:02:59,387 There is only one thing we can take with us through that door: 54 00:03:00,221 --> 00:03:03,391 those whom we have led to the savior. 55 00:03:03,641 --> 00:03:05,852 "Fear him. Love him. 56 00:03:05,935 --> 00:03:08,104 Submit yourself completely. 57 00:03:08,438 --> 00:03:10,064 Then you will be His disciple." 58 00:03:10,732 --> 00:03:14,068 What we have begun... we will finish. 59 00:03:35,882 --> 00:03:37,967 "The activities in the nation's capital 60 00:03:38,051 --> 00:03:40,511 are of central importance to all of us. 61 00:03:41,763 --> 00:03:45,558 The spiritual pulse of these groups has become increasingly strong, 62 00:03:45,934 --> 00:03:48,519 and a few men have been born into the Kingdom. 63 00:03:51,481 --> 00:03:55,318 Weekly meetings are held by members of the Congress of the United States, 64 00:03:55,735 --> 00:03:59,155 departments of the US government, state, and municipal governments. 65 00:03:59,948 --> 00:04:04,452 These men who so faithfully represent us deserve our ardent support. 66 00:04:05,453 --> 00:04:07,705 The idea spread across the continent 67 00:04:07,789 --> 00:04:11,292 and soon, breakfast groups sprang up in Chicago, 68 00:04:11,793 --> 00:04:14,587 Boston, Philadelphia, and Washington. 69 00:04:15,213 --> 00:04:16,881 As the idea caught fire, 70 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:19,467 leaders in many walks of life came together, 71 00:04:19,550 --> 00:04:21,928 searching for the answer to their problems." 72 00:04:34,232 --> 00:04:37,312 Through your involvement, have you come to participate in a small group? 73 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,320 Mm-hmm. Yep. 74 00:04:39,946 --> 00:04:43,783 How... How did you find your way to that? Was that... Was it by design or... 75 00:04:44,033 --> 00:04:46,160 Like, how do I join this Fellowship? 76 00:04:46,703 --> 00:04:50,081 Uh, the way you do is you, you know, 77 00:04:50,164 --> 00:04:54,252 find somebody in... in your neighborhood, and there will be somebody there. 78 00:04:55,503 --> 00:04:57,505 I mean, there are people all over the place. 79 00:04:58,339 --> 00:05:00,883 Let's say you live in Greensboro, North Carolina. 80 00:05:01,259 --> 00:05:02,927 You know, if somebody asked me, I'd say, 81 00:05:03,011 --> 00:05:06,347 "I don't know, let me... let me see if there's somebody in Greensboro." 82 00:05:06,431 --> 00:05:08,516 You'll get hooked up in a small group 83 00:05:08,599 --> 00:05:10,059 and that's it. 84 00:05:10,601 --> 00:05:12,437 You know, the rest is up to you. 85 00:05:15,064 --> 00:05:18,234 One of the things that emerges when you look at 86 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:23,197 what becomes this really enduring and global social movement 87 00:05:23,573 --> 00:05:27,702 is, on the one hand, you know, the real vastness of the undertaking, 88 00:05:27,910 --> 00:05:31,205 and, on the other hand, the focus on these little groups. 89 00:05:32,123 --> 00:05:34,250 These groups are recruitment tools. 90 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:38,463 You're encouraged to share really intimate thoughts and feelings, 91 00:05:38,546 --> 00:05:41,758 and then this intimacy binds you to the Family and their way of thinking. 92 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:44,677 And, depending on how connected your group is, 93 00:05:44,761 --> 00:05:46,971 you may get invited to the National Prayer Breakfast. 94 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:48,723 That's how the Family thrives. 95 00:06:12,413 --> 00:06:14,093 Doing good. Jesse Moss. How are you? 96 00:06:14,123 --> 00:06:16,209 Thank you so much for having us here in the seminar. 97 00:06:16,292 --> 00:06:18,020 - I want you to know something. - Yeah. 98 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:22,340 Is... It would be very easy for you to feel stiff-armed 99 00:06:22,423 --> 00:06:23,549 - by us. - Yeah. 100 00:06:23,633 --> 00:06:29,806 We're not trying to do that. But we do our best work invisibly, okay? 101 00:06:31,808 --> 00:06:34,811 Good, come on in. Your name, sir. Where are you from? 102 00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:37,230 It's Ayric Payton, from Portland, Oregon. 103 00:06:37,313 --> 00:06:39,982 What do you say to the person who says 104 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:42,860 that you don't want to say that there's leadership, 105 00:06:42,944 --> 00:06:46,489 because to do that would mean you'd have to take ownership 106 00:06:47,448 --> 00:06:49,075 of what we're actually doing? 107 00:06:49,325 --> 00:06:53,621 Um, so, we're sinners. We'll sure admit to that. 108 00:06:53,704 --> 00:06:55,331 But a lot of the other things, 109 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:58,209 talking about how we were involved in these conspiracies 110 00:06:58,292 --> 00:06:59,794 around the world and so on, 111 00:06:59,877 --> 00:07:01,504 they're giving us a lot of credit 112 00:07:01,587 --> 00:07:03,631 we don't deserve. Okay? 113 00:07:04,382 --> 00:07:06,759 Thanks for coming, everybody. God bless you. 114 00:07:06,843 --> 00:07:08,845 Hope you have a great time. 115 00:07:10,179 --> 00:07:12,140 - What... What's your name? - Ayric. 116 00:07:12,223 --> 00:07:14,725 - Ayric, I'm Jesse. - Jesse? Nice to meet you, Jesse. 117 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:18,146 Just an interesting question you asked. How did you first come here? 118 00:07:19,730 --> 00:07:20,982 I belong to a group, 119 00:07:21,065 --> 00:07:22,751 - Friday Morning Men's group... - Okay. 120 00:07:22,775 --> 00:07:24,610 ...where we don't pull any punches, 121 00:07:24,694 --> 00:07:26,130 - we don't exchange the niceties. - Okay. 122 00:07:26,154 --> 00:07:28,781 - Yeah. Where is that? - Uh, Portland. 123 00:07:46,674 --> 00:07:49,927 No, no. I'm leaving. No, bro, hold it. 124 00:07:52,555 --> 00:07:56,017 You're clean inside, right? But you're dirty from walking in the world. 125 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:58,120 - You're dirty... - I need to be pursued by God. 126 00:07:58,144 --> 00:08:01,814 Even if I feel like it's painful, because it is painful. 127 00:08:01,898 --> 00:08:05,568 For me, who has struggled in pornography and sexual morality most of my life, 128 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:07,778 it's everywhere, right? 129 00:08:07,862 --> 00:08:10,364 We see this every day in our culture. 130 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:13,242 We see great men who have done great things 131 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:17,038 come crashing down over some affair that gets exposed. 132 00:08:17,121 --> 00:08:19,207 We're talking David, the greatest man of war. 133 00:08:20,458 --> 00:08:23,377 Bathsheba, with a look, brings him down to his knees. 134 00:08:23,461 --> 00:08:26,172 Where that no conquering army could defeat him, 135 00:08:26,255 --> 00:08:28,299 but he ran from his own family. 136 00:08:28,382 --> 00:08:30,384 Whoo! 137 00:08:44,690 --> 00:08:48,152 What really... struck me about 138 00:08:48,444 --> 00:08:51,572 meeting some members of this group at the National Prayer Breakfast, 139 00:08:52,073 --> 00:08:54,575 you stood out to me, um, in your honest questions 140 00:08:54,659 --> 00:08:58,371 and... and, you know, your... your honest conversation drew me in. 141 00:08:58,454 --> 00:09:00,748 One of the reasons that we have, uh... 142 00:09:02,583 --> 00:09:04,835 I think existed for so long 143 00:09:04,919 --> 00:09:08,047 is because that we don't expose ourself to media. 144 00:09:09,048 --> 00:09:12,009 They just see what they appears to be, a big old surface argument 145 00:09:12,093 --> 00:09:14,095 with men berating one another. 146 00:09:14,178 --> 00:09:16,514 And they think that's all that this is about. 147 00:09:17,098 --> 00:09:19,850 You know, fools down there, black dudes hollering at the white dudes, 148 00:09:19,934 --> 00:09:22,454 the white dudes trying to justify themselves to the black dudes. 149 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,747 They think that's what's happening here, 150 00:09:23,771 --> 00:09:26,524 and, of course, if you come here initially and see one of those, 151 00:09:26,774 --> 00:09:30,278 um, that is what's happening, but underneath that is... 152 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:34,031 is a powerful work that God is doing that's actually changing men's lives. 153 00:09:35,658 --> 00:09:38,458 What I would ask you something to think about while you're sitting here 154 00:09:39,161 --> 00:09:42,415 is, uh, what are the lies that you have been telling yourself? 155 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,377 And which one of those lies have you come to believe? 156 00:09:49,630 --> 00:09:51,674 Well, I can tell you one big lie that I... 157 00:09:51,757 --> 00:09:54,135 Recognizing that I... I can't hide behind the camera. 158 00:09:54,218 --> 00:09:56,304 So, why is your crew all white? 159 00:09:56,554 --> 00:09:58,889 - Yeah. That's a great question. - Well, why is it? 160 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:00,725 - Yeah, well, I think... - Answer it. 161 00:10:00,975 --> 00:10:02,059 I think that... 162 00:10:03,644 --> 00:10:06,522 because we're... we're not doing enough to make sure that there's... 163 00:10:06,939 --> 00:10:09,066 diverse representation in our industry. 164 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,236 And... And I think that leadership has to start from the top, 165 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,322 - doesn't it? - There's more to it than that. 166 00:10:16,324 --> 00:10:19,368 I mean, I can say that it's... it's both structural and personal. 167 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:21,495 The answer, it's personal, and it's... 168 00:10:21,579 --> 00:10:23,860 - You picked the guys who are here. - That's right. 169 00:10:24,165 --> 00:10:26,208 I picked some of them. Yeah. 170 00:10:27,043 --> 00:10:30,921 And I... you know, I'll say, you know, we... we try... We hire women. 171 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:34,425 There's a... You know, it's a... a male-dominated industry. 172 00:10:34,592 --> 00:10:38,054 Documentary less so than other aspects of filmmaking. 173 00:10:38,137 --> 00:10:39,972 - So... - I didn't ask you about women. 174 00:10:40,056 --> 00:10:42,034 I asked you about black people. 175 00:10:42,058 --> 00:10:43,619 So, you see how you struggled? 176 00:10:43,643 --> 00:10:45,936 See how hard of a struggle it was to answer that question? 177 00:10:46,020 --> 00:10:49,106 - Yeah. Well, I'm defensive. - But you see how you struggled 178 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:50,608 - to answer the question? - Yeah. 179 00:10:51,484 --> 00:10:53,944 Because we see the... we see the results. 180 00:10:55,571 --> 00:10:58,574 All the time. You... This is... this what we deal with all the time here. 181 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,621 In this group, this is... this is... this is how you get stripped down. 182 00:11:03,704 --> 00:11:06,248 This is what you hear. And nobody goes, 183 00:11:06,624 --> 00:11:08,876 "Oh, thank you for telling me that, I'm... 184 00:11:09,251 --> 00:11:12,213 gonna change my ways now and do that." No, it hurts. 185 00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:16,342 Actually, we're actually kind of taking it easy on you because normally, 186 00:11:16,425 --> 00:11:18,260 uh, especially guys who come 187 00:11:18,344 --> 00:11:20,554 and especially guys like you who bring out this stuff, 188 00:11:20,638 --> 00:11:22,181 man, I work you over. 189 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:25,559 And often men, especially, who are confronted with themselves, 190 00:11:25,643 --> 00:11:27,144 they don't like what they see. 191 00:11:28,479 --> 00:11:29,772 And they don't like it being... 192 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:32,274 put in their face and spoken 193 00:11:33,317 --> 00:11:34,902 to what it actually is. 194 00:11:34,985 --> 00:11:37,363 And it's ugly. It's debased. 195 00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:40,991 But my point is... is the shame 196 00:11:41,575 --> 00:11:44,787 keeps us locked in our circumstances. 197 00:11:44,995 --> 00:11:47,415 And then if we don't deal with shame right, we start blaming. 198 00:11:47,498 --> 00:11:50,334 We blame our wives, we blame white folk, we blame black folk, 199 00:11:50,418 --> 00:11:54,505 we blame the economy, we blame doctrine. Everybody! 200 00:11:56,132 --> 00:11:57,967 There ain't nothing scarier in this country 201 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:00,594 than a free black man speaking. 202 00:12:02,221 --> 00:12:03,221 Why? 203 00:12:03,472 --> 00:12:05,099 'Cause we been through some shit here. 204 00:12:07,268 --> 00:12:09,228 Uh, excuse us, these two white guys got scared. 205 00:12:09,311 --> 00:12:11,147 Hey, white people! 206 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:12,606 Excuse me, white people! 207 00:12:15,776 --> 00:12:16,944 That's you, Bill. 208 00:12:17,445 --> 00:12:19,447 Bring your little white butt right up in here. 209 00:12:21,365 --> 00:12:25,244 So, you've seen exceptional, at least based on my understanding of... 210 00:12:26,162 --> 00:12:27,872 your voice at the National Prayer Breakfast 211 00:12:27,955 --> 00:12:29,307 and what you're saying here today, 212 00:12:29,331 --> 00:12:32,084 saying there's not honest conversation about race relations. 213 00:12:32,168 --> 00:12:33,586 It's not even honest. Authentic. 214 00:12:33,669 --> 00:12:34,989 - Yes. - Authentic. 215 00:12:36,213 --> 00:12:39,175 We're connected to Washington, D.C., because one of the founders, 216 00:12:39,258 --> 00:12:41,135 Doug Coe, is from Salem, Oregon. 217 00:12:41,218 --> 00:12:45,014 Doug Coe, when I first met him, said... asked me if I was the next revolutionary. 218 00:12:46,015 --> 00:12:48,768 And so he opened the door and allowed people unlike himself, 219 00:12:48,851 --> 00:12:50,579 people very different than himself in all manners, 220 00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:53,814 to be included in the process and have a place at the table. 221 00:12:57,777 --> 00:13:01,614 Doug, we talk about that we need a revolution. Yes? 222 00:13:02,198 --> 00:13:05,576 Jesus is the greatest revolutionary leader in history, 223 00:13:06,076 --> 00:13:08,996 and transcends white, red, yellow, black. 224 00:13:09,079 --> 00:13:10,456 That's just a fact. 225 00:13:10,539 --> 00:13:12,333 - Love it. - The point is, 226 00:13:12,958 --> 00:13:15,127 God is love. Love is a person. 227 00:13:15,211 --> 00:13:16,629 And that person, 228 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:20,925 he's the most revolutionary leader in the history of the planet. 229 00:13:24,762 --> 00:13:28,474 If they talk Jesus and they say the right things, 230 00:13:28,599 --> 00:13:31,560 and they mutually support and comfort one another, 231 00:13:31,894 --> 00:13:34,647 does that move them to change their behavior? 232 00:13:34,730 --> 00:13:37,691 Does that move them to act in ways that seek justice? 233 00:13:39,652 --> 00:13:41,946 Being a person of faith, 234 00:13:43,447 --> 00:13:47,451 I wanted a clear understanding of their theology. 235 00:13:49,245 --> 00:13:52,873 The Fellowship is kind of a pre-church organization, 236 00:13:53,123 --> 00:13:54,750 is what it feels like. 237 00:13:55,084 --> 00:13:57,169 Back to that first generation 238 00:13:57,711 --> 00:13:59,421 who actually walked and talked 239 00:13:59,505 --> 00:14:03,133 and remembered Jesus firsthand. And there was no church then. 240 00:14:03,217 --> 00:14:05,386 It was a bunch of Jews and gentiles 241 00:14:05,469 --> 00:14:08,722 and people who got interested in this person Jesus, 242 00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:10,975 and they were so drawn and so taken 243 00:14:11,058 --> 00:14:13,769 that they started coming together and sharing their stories. 244 00:14:13,978 --> 00:14:15,896 So, it's about small gatherings. 245 00:14:17,481 --> 00:14:21,610 And for the Family, it becomes a cult of following. 246 00:14:22,152 --> 00:14:25,990 Jesus is this charismatic, powerful person. 247 00:14:26,073 --> 00:14:30,244 So, this organization has created a small group process 248 00:14:30,369 --> 00:14:32,955 of raising up this charismatic figure. 249 00:14:34,123 --> 00:14:36,542 But my take is they really cherry-picked 250 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:38,002 who this Jesus was 251 00:14:38,961 --> 00:14:40,671 and what this Jesus did. 252 00:14:41,589 --> 00:14:43,507 I think they use Jesus. 253 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:46,135 I hate to say this, almost kind of a mascot. 254 00:15:00,065 --> 00:15:01,150 Good morning. 255 00:15:01,317 --> 00:15:04,111 At first glance, you may think that Robert Aderholt, 256 00:15:04,194 --> 00:15:07,239 a conservative Republican, very conservative... 257 00:15:07,865 --> 00:15:10,576 ...from Northern Alabama... 258 00:15:10,659 --> 00:15:12,244 ...and a progressive Democrat 259 00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:14,705 from Southern California have nothing in common, 260 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,709 and yet we find commonalities through our shared belief in hope, 261 00:15:19,126 --> 00:15:20,544 prayer, and Jesus. 262 00:15:21,337 --> 00:15:24,482 We bring before you now the hearts and the minds and the bodies 263 00:15:24,506 --> 00:15:26,467 of the leaders of this nation and this world. 264 00:15:26,842 --> 00:15:29,803 Lord, I believe you created the institution of leadership 265 00:15:30,012 --> 00:15:32,181 to make the most of this challenging world. 266 00:15:32,556 --> 00:15:36,769 We need our leaders to make decisions, to organize common effort, 267 00:15:36,852 --> 00:15:40,689 to inspire us and to overcome all the forces that drive us apart. 268 00:15:42,608 --> 00:15:45,819 Lord, you taught us that in the economy of your kingdom, 269 00:15:46,195 --> 00:15:49,114 the first shall be last and the last shall be first. 270 00:15:49,698 --> 00:15:53,077 May our hearts be broken by the things that break your heart, oh, Lord. 271 00:15:53,494 --> 00:15:57,247 And, as a result, may we pursue personal action and policies 272 00:15:57,331 --> 00:16:00,834 that create peace, equality, and justice. 273 00:16:03,170 --> 00:16:04,463 Lord, hear our prayer. 274 00:16:10,094 --> 00:16:12,388 We had tremendous success on The Apprentice. 275 00:16:12,471 --> 00:16:15,140 And when I ran for president, 276 00:16:15,557 --> 00:16:16,910 I had to leave the show. 277 00:16:16,934 --> 00:16:18,936 That's when I knew for sure I was doing it. 278 00:16:19,019 --> 00:16:20,099 What do you think, Lil Jon? 279 00:16:20,145 --> 00:16:22,564 Is she a leader, or just a stressed-out bitch? 280 00:16:22,648 --> 00:16:24,984 Oh! 281 00:16:26,026 --> 00:16:28,487 And they hired a big, big movie star, 282 00:16:28,570 --> 00:16:30,739 Arnold Schwarzenegger, to take my place. 283 00:16:31,782 --> 00:16:32,992 I'm back. 284 00:16:34,368 --> 00:16:36,996 And we know how that turned out. 285 00:16:37,079 --> 00:16:41,250 The ratings went right down the tubes. It's been a total disaster. 286 00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:43,627 Never, ever 287 00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:45,754 bet against Trump again. 288 00:16:46,046 --> 00:16:48,507 And I wanna just pray for Arnold if we can, 289 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:51,051 for those ratings, okay? 290 00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:54,638 That was how Donald Trump opened his remarks 291 00:16:54,722 --> 00:16:57,224 at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington this morning, 292 00:16:57,307 --> 00:16:59,101 what is typically a somber event 293 00:16:59,184 --> 00:17:01,895 before an audience of devout religious leaders. 294 00:17:02,062 --> 00:17:05,065 The reaction from his critics, some shock, ridicule, 295 00:17:05,149 --> 00:17:06,567 outrage that he'd say it. 296 00:17:07,568 --> 00:17:09,170 At Trump's first Prayer Breakfast, 297 00:17:09,194 --> 00:17:10,988 he talks about Arnold Schwarzenegger. 298 00:17:11,196 --> 00:17:13,073 How petty can that be? 299 00:17:14,450 --> 00:17:15,909 A whole lot of reporters say, 300 00:17:15,993 --> 00:17:18,203 "Ha, can you believe this idiot," you know? 301 00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:22,198 They make the same mistake that they made when Trump went to Liberty University. 302 00:17:22,624 --> 00:17:23,792 Two Corinthians, right? 303 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:27,755 Two Corinthians, 3:17, that's the whole ball game. 304 00:17:27,838 --> 00:17:31,925 And gave a bizarre, deeply unorthodox reading of the Bible. 305 00:17:32,134 --> 00:17:34,136 Is that the one? Is that the one you like? 306 00:17:34,219 --> 00:17:36,219 I think that's the one you like, 'cause I loved it. 307 00:17:36,555 --> 00:17:40,100 They say that clearly he wasn't a pious man, right? 308 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,479 They think, a little bit like I did when I bought this... 309 00:17:43,645 --> 00:17:47,316 this King James Bible in the beginning of my reporting, to go to Ivanwald 310 00:17:47,816 --> 00:17:50,110 and I still thought this scripture mattered. 311 00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:52,404 I hadn't learned the lesson of the Family. 312 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:54,073 We don't need this book. 313 00:17:55,449 --> 00:17:57,242 Trump understands that, too. 314 00:17:57,576 --> 00:18:00,287 If you're scripturally literate, it doesn't matter. 315 00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:03,540 The shallowness of your faith, it doesn't matter. 316 00:18:03,999 --> 00:18:06,085 You know, when we go in church and... 317 00:18:06,376 --> 00:18:09,588 and when I drink my little wine, which is about the only wine I drink, 318 00:18:09,671 --> 00:18:13,217 and have my little cracker, I guess that's a form of asking for forgiveness. 319 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:16,845 And I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed, okay? 320 00:18:18,305 --> 00:18:22,518 Sometimes, it's the most unlikely figure who is God's tool. 321 00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:26,021 Trump doesn't know anything in the Bible. Well, of course it's not... 322 00:18:26,438 --> 00:18:27,898 It's just... just in his heart. 323 00:18:29,858 --> 00:18:31,458 Donald Trump's Presbyterian. 324 00:18:32,069 --> 00:18:35,322 One of their main teachings is predestination. 325 00:18:35,572 --> 00:18:37,866 So, young Donald must have just eaten that up. 326 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:41,120 That he was predestined to greatness, 327 00:18:41,286 --> 00:18:44,540 to do great things, to be a great leader. 328 00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:47,543 There's a preponderance of folks like that 329 00:18:47,626 --> 00:18:49,169 involved in the Fellowship. 330 00:18:49,711 --> 00:18:52,089 He's got these three mentors in his life. 331 00:18:52,172 --> 00:18:53,841 This is his holy trinity. 332 00:18:54,550 --> 00:18:57,261 His father, Fred, from whom he learned strength. 333 00:18:57,344 --> 00:18:59,721 Roy Cohn, a fixer, 334 00:18:59,888 --> 00:19:01,181 from whom he learns cunning. 335 00:19:01,723 --> 00:19:05,519 And Norman Vincent Peale, the power of positive thinking. 336 00:19:05,894 --> 00:19:07,054 Norman Vincent Peale. 337 00:19:07,104 --> 00:19:09,398 The great Norman Vincent Peale was my pastor. 338 00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:12,710 The Power of Positive Thinking. Everybody's heard of Norman Vincent Peale? 339 00:19:12,734 --> 00:19:13,819 He was so great. 340 00:19:14,236 --> 00:19:16,864 He would give a sermon, you never wanted to leave. 341 00:19:17,698 --> 00:19:19,741 Sometimes we have sermons and every once in a while 342 00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:22,595 we think about leaving a little early, right? Even though we're Christian. 343 00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:26,623 That connection goes back to 344 00:19:26,790 --> 00:19:29,168 the founder of the Family, Abraham Vereide. 345 00:19:30,043 --> 00:19:32,754 Norman Vincent Peale, good friend of Abraham's. 346 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,508 Together they wanted to turn Christianity into a businessman's religion. 347 00:19:37,509 --> 00:19:39,136 That Family theology, 348 00:19:39,636 --> 00:19:42,931 it has infected fundamentalism writ large. 349 00:19:46,852 --> 00:19:49,521 Positive thinking 350 00:19:50,105 --> 00:19:52,649 works wonders. 351 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:55,402 Inevitably. 352 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:58,739 Indubitably. 353 00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:04,161 So, what do you wanna be? 354 00:20:06,455 --> 00:20:08,665 Ask yourself that question. 355 00:20:10,626 --> 00:20:13,170 I would go so far as to say 356 00:20:13,337 --> 00:20:15,923 that if you are a complete, 357 00:20:16,465 --> 00:20:19,760 dedicated follower of Jesus Christ, 358 00:20:20,135 --> 00:20:23,430 you can do anything 359 00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:27,476 you really wanna do 360 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:30,604 with your life. 361 00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:35,275 I think Jesus is the answer, 362 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:38,195 but it's a lot different than the Christianity 363 00:20:38,278 --> 00:20:39,738 that you see today in America. 364 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:42,574 It is not prosperity. 365 00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:46,703 It is not name it and claim it. It is not great jobs, 366 00:20:46,787 --> 00:20:48,330 great this, great that. 367 00:20:49,831 --> 00:20:52,125 It's really a personal sacrifice, 368 00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:56,797 a decision to follow a king today that doesn't have a kingdom here, 369 00:20:57,506 --> 00:21:01,301 and a way that's very different than the way of life now. 370 00:21:02,386 --> 00:21:05,389 This gathering is a testament to the power of faith, 371 00:21:06,431 --> 00:21:10,185 and is one of the great customs of our nation. 372 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:13,730 And I hope to be here seven more times with you. 373 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:21,571 You might assume that this guy has dishonored the Prayer Breakfast. 374 00:21:21,738 --> 00:21:24,533 No, he's not. He's just performed a merger. 375 00:21:24,616 --> 00:21:26,243 This is a business merger on stage. 376 00:21:26,827 --> 00:21:29,830 This is those two forms of spectacle coming together. 377 00:21:30,497 --> 00:21:32,582 Trump is not their tool. 378 00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:35,294 It's like, "I've got my spectacle. You've got your spectacle." 379 00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:39,172 Let's work together. Let's spectacle together. 380 00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:43,176 Now... 381 00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:47,556 to this president, some of this is 382 00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:50,767 the evangelical base that is his base. 383 00:21:50,851 --> 00:21:54,146 He enjoys it and he may see some of it as that. 384 00:21:54,229 --> 00:21:57,607 What we're trying to share with him is, it's way beyond that. 385 00:21:58,233 --> 00:21:59,985 Because the evangelical base, 386 00:22:00,068 --> 00:22:02,612 the political base, is not what this is about. 387 00:22:02,904 --> 00:22:06,074 This... this thought of Jesus is what this is about. 388 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:09,870 If you're a member of the Fellowship, 389 00:22:09,953 --> 00:22:12,497 the word "Jesus" takes on 390 00:22:12,914 --> 00:22:15,917 a number of different... it takes on a number of functions, 391 00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:18,462 - more than meanings. - Like a talisman. 392 00:22:18,628 --> 00:22:21,173 It's like a talisman. That's a very good word. 393 00:22:21,256 --> 00:22:23,175 To hold the people 394 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:25,969 who participate together in an ideology. 395 00:22:26,386 --> 00:22:28,221 But there's a shared understanding 396 00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:31,433 that what we're really about here is power. 397 00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:35,437 We haven't had a president in our lifetime 398 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,606 that was so pro-evangelical 399 00:22:37,689 --> 00:22:41,109 and has spoken for the... for the issues that evangelicals care about. 400 00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:44,441 This is what the Family's been waiting for. 401 00:22:45,155 --> 00:22:46,490 He's God's man. 402 00:22:47,908 --> 00:22:50,869 The evangelicals who surrounded him and embraced him 403 00:22:50,952 --> 00:22:53,580 and would end up voting for him in higher percentages 404 00:22:53,663 --> 00:22:56,583 than any president in history, 405 00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:59,127 including George W. Bush, including Ronald Reagan... 406 00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:02,214 some of them would go so far as to call him 407 00:23:02,297 --> 00:23:04,674 "God's chaos candidate." 408 00:23:06,009 --> 00:23:09,554 Often married, casino operator... 409 00:23:09,679 --> 00:23:13,183 Art of the Deal, amazing, unbelievable. 410 00:23:14,184 --> 00:23:17,437 Just remember that God always uses imperfect vessels 411 00:23:17,521 --> 00:23:20,023 to do his perfect work, 'cause I am an imperfect vessel. 412 00:23:20,107 --> 00:23:21,627 President Trump's an imperfect vessel. 413 00:23:22,442 --> 00:23:23,442 We all are, really. 414 00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:25,630 I mean, do you remember that sound bite, 415 00:23:25,654 --> 00:23:27,948 that horrendous moment when he was arguing with the Pope? 416 00:23:28,031 --> 00:23:31,118 Who gets in a dust-up with the Pope on the campaign trail? 417 00:23:31,201 --> 00:23:33,829 And he's yelling, "I'm a Christian and I'm proud of it." 418 00:23:33,912 --> 00:23:37,290 - I thought, "That's gotta be God's man." - Yeah. 419 00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:40,502 I am fascinated 420 00:23:41,169 --> 00:23:44,214 by the rhetorical self-empretzelment 421 00:23:44,339 --> 00:23:47,884 that's necessary to justify 422 00:23:48,051 --> 00:23:49,761 an allegiance to Donald Trump 423 00:23:49,845 --> 00:23:53,098 on the part of faith leaders in the religious right. 424 00:23:59,521 --> 00:24:02,149 Despite the fact that he was messy and chaotic, 425 00:24:02,774 --> 00:24:06,987 that was further evidence of God using this man. 426 00:24:07,612 --> 00:24:09,948 The Cabinet that he assembled is 427 00:24:10,031 --> 00:24:12,951 the most fundamentalist cabinet in US history. 428 00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:15,829 Pompeo. DeVos. 429 00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:19,291 Jeff Sessions, a longtime associate of the Family, 430 00:24:19,374 --> 00:24:21,793 that says, "We have to separate families 431 00:24:21,877 --> 00:24:24,379 at the border because of Romans 13." 432 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,756 I would cite Romans 13: 433 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,303 "Obey the laws of the government because God has ordained the government." 434 00:24:31,511 --> 00:24:33,865 Other figures that we don't pay as much attention to, 435 00:24:33,889 --> 00:24:35,849 that's where you really start to see 436 00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:37,893 folks pouring in. 437 00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:42,814 And, of course, for vice president, he chose Mike Pence. 438 00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:46,776 The secular press notices this. This is big news. 439 00:24:47,569 --> 00:24:49,237 The Christian Conservative press? 440 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:51,948 This is hallelujah. 441 00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:56,161 We now know his preferred running mate was Chris Christie. 442 00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:58,580 Chris Christie is the guy he wanted to hang out with. 443 00:24:59,539 --> 00:25:01,249 Mike Pence was the deal. 444 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:03,251 Mike Pence was the transaction. 445 00:25:04,169 --> 00:25:06,129 Well, I think President Trump 446 00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:08,590 has a heart 447 00:25:09,216 --> 00:25:10,342 of gratitude 448 00:25:10,842 --> 00:25:12,761 for evangelical Christians in this country. 449 00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:17,224 With President Donald Trump in this White House and with God's help, 450 00:25:17,724 --> 00:25:20,268 we will restore the sanctity of life 451 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:23,271 to the center of American law. 452 00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:26,274 Pence is not exactly a member of the Family, 453 00:25:26,608 --> 00:25:29,027 but he is his own power center. 454 00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:32,906 And for the Trump administration, the power centers of the Christian right 455 00:25:32,989 --> 00:25:35,242 are working toward common ground. 456 00:25:35,408 --> 00:25:38,912 Hey, hey, ho, ho! Roe v. Wade has got to go! 457 00:25:40,747 --> 00:25:42,907 Let me be clear. President Trump is a believer. 458 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:44,459 And so am I. 459 00:25:44,876 --> 00:25:46,670 And we understand, uh, 460 00:25:46,753 --> 00:25:49,047 the role of faith in the life of this nation. 461 00:25:52,092 --> 00:25:55,929 Does it look to me like the Trump administration is 462 00:25:56,763 --> 00:25:59,224 favoring or wanting to privilege Christianity? 463 00:25:59,683 --> 00:26:01,226 There are signs of that. 464 00:26:01,309 --> 00:26:05,063 I will get rid of and totally destroy 465 00:26:05,188 --> 00:26:09,317 the Johnson Amendment and allow our representatives of faith 466 00:26:09,442 --> 00:26:13,572 to speak freely and without fear of retribution. 467 00:26:13,655 --> 00:26:16,241 I will do that. Remember. 468 00:26:16,366 --> 00:26:21,079 The Johnson Amendment prevents churches from doing overt politicking. 469 00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:26,501 It could mean that there's a de facto religious test. 470 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:31,214 To be involved in the government, you have to adhere to Christianity. 471 00:26:32,299 --> 00:26:35,844 What's really at stake is the fundamental division 472 00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:38,096 between church and state. 473 00:26:39,055 --> 00:26:43,602 History will record the greatness that you have brought for generations. 474 00:26:44,102 --> 00:26:45,604 We pray this prayer, 475 00:26:45,687 --> 00:26:48,023 and if all of you agree with that, say amen. 476 00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:49,524 Amen. 477 00:26:49,608 --> 00:26:50,692 Let us pray. 478 00:26:51,484 --> 00:26:53,403 What Jesus struggled with... 479 00:26:54,362 --> 00:26:56,781 he struggled with religious leaders more than anybody else. 480 00:26:58,116 --> 00:27:00,285 Leaders who are trying to hang on. 481 00:27:00,410 --> 00:27:02,829 They want to maintain their status in their community, 482 00:27:02,912 --> 00:27:04,914 they want to maintain their way of life. 483 00:27:05,915 --> 00:27:09,961 There's lots of examples in the gospels of people collaborating 484 00:27:11,171 --> 00:27:12,672 with the powerful, 485 00:27:12,756 --> 00:27:14,591 to the cost and to the demise 486 00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:17,010 of the less fortunate and less powerful. 487 00:27:19,554 --> 00:27:22,307 Doug Coe preaches a parable of the Wolf King. 488 00:27:23,308 --> 00:27:26,770 How do you get the Wolf King? You show him that you have a great power 489 00:27:26,936 --> 00:27:28,938 and you offer that power to him. 490 00:27:29,147 --> 00:27:31,358 The Wolf King will come alongside you. 491 00:27:32,108 --> 00:27:34,361 They're not thinking that Trump is gonna get religion 492 00:27:34,444 --> 00:27:37,781 and turn sweet and mild. Just the opposite. 493 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,992 The reason we work with Trump 494 00:27:41,701 --> 00:27:44,371 is because he's not a sheep. He's the Wolf King. 495 00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:05,684 We're not Christians. We're followers of Jesus. 496 00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:08,019 And we just serve. 497 00:28:10,438 --> 00:28:12,732 "Two or three friends 498 00:28:12,816 --> 00:28:15,026 agree and pray. 499 00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:18,405 They can do anything." 500 00:28:20,448 --> 00:28:21,825 That voice of doubt 501 00:28:23,034 --> 00:28:24,035 in your stomach... 502 00:28:24,869 --> 00:28:26,246 How does that make you feel? 503 00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:32,478 - Joining us now is Jeff Sharlet. - Jeff Sharlet... 504 00:28:32,502 --> 00:28:34,422 The nation's eyes turn to Jeff Sharlet, 505 00:28:34,504 --> 00:28:37,799 the only person to have done extensive journalism about the Family. 506 00:28:37,882 --> 00:28:39,562 Jeff Sharlet, author of The Family: 507 00:28:39,592 --> 00:28:43,513 The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power. 508 00:28:44,764 --> 00:28:47,434 When you left Ivanwald, you wrote your book. 509 00:28:47,517 --> 00:28:49,185 Had you thought to yourself 510 00:28:49,602 --> 00:28:51,896 maybe, like, "I got it wrong." 511 00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:54,524 Or, "I..." You know, did you ever think, like... 512 00:28:54,816 --> 00:28:57,128 I mean, I'm sure people accused you of being a conspiracy theorist. 513 00:28:57,152 --> 00:28:58,611 - Yeah. - Did you ever think like... 514 00:28:58,945 --> 00:29:00,655 Like, did you ever question yourself? 515 00:29:01,239 --> 00:29:03,742 Um, you know, it's funny, 'cause I wrote two books about them 516 00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:06,119 and I tried to give them both happy endings. 517 00:29:06,411 --> 00:29:09,247 Uh, they weren't happy experiences reporting these books. 518 00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:12,000 You know, to encounter a power 519 00:29:12,542 --> 00:29:15,170 that is much greater than you understood. 520 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:16,754 Um... 521 00:29:17,505 --> 00:29:18,923 Really maybe 522 00:29:19,632 --> 00:29:21,342 the darkest expression 523 00:29:21,676 --> 00:29:26,639 of religious life that I have encountered in 20 years of... of writing. 524 00:29:28,099 --> 00:29:29,225 Um... 525 00:29:29,893 --> 00:29:31,394 the subtitle of Jeff's book is 526 00:29:31,478 --> 00:29:36,024 The Secret Threat, Fundamentalist Threat to American Democracy. 527 00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:38,026 - Mmm. Yes. - The Fellowship, 528 00:29:38,109 --> 00:29:42,071 the Family, is a secret... secretive threat, fundamentalist threat 529 00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:43,948 - to American democracy. - Yeah. 530 00:29:44,073 --> 00:29:46,409 I'm not a good example of that. I'm a liberal. 531 00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:52,499 I like Jeff. I mean, I met with him a few times. 532 00:29:52,582 --> 00:29:54,918 We had a little war going on, but I liked him. 533 00:29:55,001 --> 00:29:57,837 I mean, I was praying for him a lot. I still do. 534 00:29:58,588 --> 00:30:00,131 You know, let... let's just, uh... 535 00:30:00,381 --> 00:30:03,718 address the 600-pound gorilla right on the front end. Um... 536 00:30:04,219 --> 00:30:07,472 I've never seen any conspiratorial motives. 537 00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:11,017 I've never seen any bad actors inside that weren't... 538 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,311 If they... if they showed up, they're pushed out. 539 00:30:13,394 --> 00:30:16,064 So, you can shoot at it or poke holes at it 540 00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:19,192 or develop conspiracy theories, um, 541 00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:22,111 but, uh, they're not justified, honestly. 542 00:30:22,612 --> 00:30:25,615 People come with their own agendas and their preconceived ideas, 543 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:29,410 and then they look for information they think that will, uh, 544 00:30:29,577 --> 00:30:31,204 ratify those ideas. 545 00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:33,665 Eh, people are not used to 546 00:30:33,873 --> 00:30:37,627 other people who don't have an agenda, who humble themselves, 547 00:30:38,044 --> 00:30:40,797 who appeal to an authority higher than Washington. 548 00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:44,259 And who live in a world and with a worldview 549 00:30:44,384 --> 00:30:46,427 that is so opposite 550 00:30:46,761 --> 00:30:48,346 what everybody else lives in. 551 00:30:48,555 --> 00:30:51,349 And that's why they think there's a cover-up, there's a conspiracy, 552 00:30:51,432 --> 00:30:53,560 there's something secretive going on. 553 00:30:53,643 --> 00:30:58,273 You know, handshakes and code rings and things like that. 554 00:30:58,356 --> 00:30:59,816 You know, it's just not true. 555 00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:06,855 I remember when I used to first think about Washington, D.C., when I first went. 556 00:31:06,948 --> 00:31:08,050 I thought like most people think. 557 00:31:08,074 --> 00:31:10,135 "There ain't no good thing happening in Washington, D.C. 558 00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:13,079 It's just a bunch of backbiting, conniving..." 559 00:31:14,956 --> 00:31:16,082 Forget those people! 560 00:31:16,791 --> 00:31:19,544 It's straight-up Christian Mafia. 561 00:31:19,627 --> 00:31:21,921 That's where the Mafia got their pattern from. 562 00:31:22,005 --> 00:31:23,357 - They got it from... - You can't say that. 563 00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:25,943 They got it from the Christian structure. What, we can't say it on Netflix? 564 00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:28,261 Are you kidding me? What, you muffling me now? 565 00:31:28,344 --> 00:31:30,263 It's the Mafia, dude. 566 00:31:30,763 --> 00:31:34,934 When God says, "You know... You do know that I love those people, right?" 567 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,355 I... When I first used to hear that, I didn't believe it. 568 00:31:39,939 --> 00:31:42,400 So, I would travel, me and Wendell used to travel. 569 00:31:42,483 --> 00:31:44,736 We started in the state and then we... 570 00:31:44,819 --> 00:31:47,739 That's how we got to the Prayer Breakfast 25 years ago. 571 00:31:47,989 --> 00:31:50,700 Wendell coerced me into going to the Prayer Breakfast. 572 00:31:50,783 --> 00:31:53,095 I said, "I don't wanna go to the Prayer... I already know what that's about." 573 00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:56,205 So, we went. Guess what? It was exactly what I thought I was. 574 00:31:57,123 --> 00:31:59,667 - Which is what? - A bunch of old, white men 575 00:32:00,168 --> 00:32:02,545 justifying themselves in the name of religion 576 00:32:02,629 --> 00:32:03,838 and reaching out 577 00:32:04,547 --> 00:32:08,009 on behalf of their position to assist other people in the country. 578 00:32:08,176 --> 00:32:11,304 They think they got all the answers, all the knowledge. They know nothing. 579 00:32:12,597 --> 00:32:14,599 Now, that's hard to hear when you're rich. 580 00:32:15,391 --> 00:32:17,685 That spiritually and morally, you're bankrupt. 581 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,857 And the fact that they used to look at me in their stereotypical view 582 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:25,381 that I was someone who needed to be helped or changed by them. 583 00:32:25,443 --> 00:32:28,321 I didn't need to be helped or changed by them. I was not poor. 584 00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:29,446 I was not ignorant. 585 00:32:30,239 --> 00:32:32,992 I did not fit into the paradigm that they're used to dealing with 586 00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:35,203 in their inappropriate missionary attitude. 587 00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:39,165 And I said, 588 00:32:39,666 --> 00:32:41,709 "My problem is you." 589 00:32:43,586 --> 00:32:46,673 People always want to bring in and talk about the underprivileged and... 590 00:32:46,881 --> 00:32:49,509 the downtrodden. They don't want to talk about the overprivileged 591 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:53,805 and the lonely-hearts, uh, at the top. And in fact, I was like that. 592 00:32:53,888 --> 00:32:56,169 I was like, "I don't need to talk to no rich white dudes." 593 00:32:57,392 --> 00:33:00,561 You know, God changed my heart... mind about that real fast. 594 00:33:02,188 --> 00:33:05,692 'Cause God says, "If you love me, then you should love everybody in this town. 595 00:33:06,025 --> 00:33:07,777 You should care about what I care about. 596 00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:12,699 If you only care about what you care about, then you don't love me." 597 00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:17,537 That was the beginning of my Washington, D.C. experience. 598 00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:20,289 Why do I go back? 'Cause God love those people. 599 00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:22,834 And if I say I love God, 600 00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:26,838 then I have to learn to love what God loves. 601 00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:34,804 The Jesus of the Gospels is universal. 602 00:33:35,513 --> 00:33:37,890 I'm trying to learn about that Jesus. 603 00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:40,018 That particular one. 604 00:33:42,353 --> 00:33:43,771 Jesus said... 605 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,860 "If you're my follower, if you're my disciple, if you're going to follow me, 606 00:33:49,402 --> 00:33:51,237 you will become a fountain." 607 00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:55,616 People come to the fountain. The fountain doesn't go to the people. 608 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:57,618 Evangelism isn't outreach. 609 00:33:57,702 --> 00:33:59,996 Evangelism for Jesus is inreach. 610 00:34:00,913 --> 00:34:03,750 Reaching yourself, so you become a fountain. 611 00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:23,186 Spiritual mentor 612 00:34:23,269 --> 00:34:27,148 Doug Coe died Tuesday after suffering a heart attack and a stroke. 613 00:34:27,523 --> 00:34:31,486 The 88-year-old quietly reached into the halls of power with the gospel. 614 00:34:32,820 --> 00:34:35,239 There's no way to give, um... 615 00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:37,909 to give tribute to Dad 616 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,537 for all the years and years of commitment, 617 00:34:41,621 --> 00:34:45,500 of patience, of forgiveness, and kindness to all of us. 618 00:34:48,044 --> 00:34:52,548 In fact, this is the family right here 619 00:34:53,382 --> 00:34:55,676 that is going to live for eternity. 620 00:34:55,885 --> 00:34:59,847 That we're all going to be brothers and sisters for eternity, 621 00:35:00,181 --> 00:35:03,768 and Jesus is gonna be our brother and our husband, 622 00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:06,395 and God is gonna be our father. So I can't wait. 623 00:35:07,647 --> 00:35:10,733 ♪ Oh, Lord ♪ 624 00:35:10,817 --> 00:35:14,153 'Cause whenever you have a figure like Doug Coe pass away, 625 00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:16,864 a central figure on so many fronts of a... 626 00:35:17,365 --> 00:35:20,368 of a global ministry, if you wanna call it that, 627 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,788 there's almost a vacuum created. 628 00:35:27,416 --> 00:35:29,127 There's a way in which Coe 629 00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:32,547 embodied not just the spiritual ambition of the organization, 630 00:35:33,256 --> 00:35:35,591 but also the invisibility of the organization. 631 00:35:36,175 --> 00:35:38,511 Not just in the way that he was under the radar, 632 00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:40,763 but in the way that 633 00:35:41,389 --> 00:35:43,683 he's sort of ethereal and nothing sticks to him. 634 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:46,561 No one held Coe accountable. 635 00:35:49,063 --> 00:35:50,940 In a sense, the 21st century 636 00:35:51,524 --> 00:35:54,777 has caused a new era of openness. 637 00:35:55,444 --> 00:35:57,822 We're trying to be more transparent to people. 638 00:35:58,823 --> 00:36:01,075 Obviously, we may have made some mistakes in the past, 639 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,786 part of which may have been just not talking. 640 00:36:04,537 --> 00:36:07,165 Are we too private? Perhaps. Or too secret? Yeah. 641 00:36:07,248 --> 00:36:11,127 I've... I've said so publicly that I think we can be more open, 642 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:13,296 and then we... we did open a little bit. 643 00:36:13,462 --> 00:36:15,631 I don't mind talking about it. 644 00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:18,718 And are there other problems? Sure, there are problems. 645 00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:21,179 You're in Christ, Deter's in Christ, 646 00:36:21,262 --> 00:36:23,389 we're in Christ, we're all imperfect. 647 00:36:24,056 --> 00:36:27,310 So, for temporarily, we're not gonna work visibly and physically... 648 00:36:27,393 --> 00:36:29,270 But when you look at 649 00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:32,481 the changing nature of the Christian right, 650 00:36:33,816 --> 00:36:37,612 the Family goes a long way toward explaining how it endures. 651 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:40,114 They're in it for the long term. 652 00:36:40,615 --> 00:36:44,076 They understand: "This struggle we're in is a marathon. 653 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,370 It is not a sprint for the evening news." 654 00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:51,042 A lot of people around the world think that it was Washington, 655 00:36:51,125 --> 00:36:53,211 and Doug was sort of at the center of it. 656 00:36:53,294 --> 00:36:55,546 But it's very atomized. 657 00:36:55,796 --> 00:36:58,549 Each group is going on without Doug 658 00:36:58,758 --> 00:37:01,636 pretty much the same way it went on before, with Doug. 659 00:37:02,094 --> 00:37:04,263 No one's gonna replace Doug Coe, 660 00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:09,018 but in a way, a group of people can team together and maintain 661 00:37:09,185 --> 00:37:11,938 the continuity because the work, I think, is significant. 662 00:37:12,521 --> 00:37:16,150 This morning, our hearts are full of gratitude as we come together 663 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:20,738 for the 66th Annual National Prayer Breakfast. 664 00:37:21,656 --> 00:37:25,576 But our hearts are also saddened by the absence of the co-founder 665 00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:29,497 of this wonderful breakfast who passed away last year, 666 00:37:29,705 --> 00:37:32,166 Doug Coe, who everybody loved. 667 00:37:32,541 --> 00:37:35,920 We are blessed to be joined by Doug's wife, Jan, 668 00:37:36,295 --> 00:37:39,090 and two of their sons, David and Tim. 669 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:44,011 You are indeed carrying on his great legacy. 670 00:37:45,179 --> 00:37:49,267 An offshoot of this work is the next generation. 671 00:37:49,558 --> 00:37:52,979 You know, and how can they be brought into this. 672 00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:55,856 We want young people to come on, we want women to come on, 673 00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:57,692 we want diversity to emerge. 674 00:37:57,817 --> 00:38:01,320 We want, frankly, multicultural involvement. 675 00:38:01,529 --> 00:38:06,158 Um, I think you're gonna see in the future multi-languages spoken. 676 00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,577 That everyone is welcome. 677 00:38:09,036 --> 00:38:11,122 This is about Jesus of Nazareth. 678 00:38:11,455 --> 00:38:13,165 This is about a humble... 679 00:38:13,666 --> 00:38:17,753 example of leadership that the world has never seen. 680 00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:22,133 And it is transformative... 681 00:38:25,094 --> 00:38:27,722 ...and anyone that's interested in it is welcome. 682 00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:34,061 Questions of hypocrisy and betrayal. 683 00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:36,897 And the guy who took on the dirty jobs and got them done. 684 00:38:37,064 --> 00:38:38,399 What is repentance? 685 00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:45,072 It's a change of heart and a renunciation on a daily basis. 686 00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:46,365 Excuse me, Senator Ensign? 687 00:38:46,657 --> 00:38:49,035 You can't just repent and then run off 688 00:38:49,243 --> 00:38:52,747 - and never have to deal with it again. - Will you resign as governor? 689 00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,624 A repentance is an indication that you have changed! 690 00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:59,003 So, when you are confronted by those circumstances, you have to renounce 691 00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:01,422 how you behaved previously. 692 00:39:04,717 --> 00:39:07,261 Just like if you was a Ku Klux Klan member, 693 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:09,388 you gotta renounce that daily. You can't just say, 694 00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:12,592 "Well, I'm gonna do it once for all, then I ain't gotta talk about it no more." 695 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:16,854 That ain't repentance. Repentance is... is you renounce the old nature daily. 696 00:39:18,272 --> 00:39:20,024 That's when you renounce it! 697 00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:21,984 Father, I ain't like that no more! 698 00:39:24,987 --> 00:39:28,187 Well, let me help you understand something today, just in case you don't know it. 699 00:39:29,325 --> 00:39:31,535 You keep your mouth shut, you deny the faith. 700 00:39:33,412 --> 00:39:35,414 We have to talk. 701 00:39:35,664 --> 00:39:38,793 And we have to talk righteously. 702 00:39:39,668 --> 00:39:43,547 If we remain quiet and silent and cower and don't wanna disturb the peace, 703 00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:46,050 God's kingdom is not brought forward. 704 00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:51,324 You really wanna know what's going on? 705 00:39:53,682 --> 00:39:57,645 You should let me show you how you can talk to the right dude. 706 00:39:59,605 --> 00:40:01,690 That's gonna require a little knee-work. 707 00:40:03,150 --> 00:40:04,568 Get on your knees. 708 00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:13,160 So, young brothers... 709 00:40:16,038 --> 00:40:18,874 what a work, Father, that you have, uh, given us. 710 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:20,543 I'm always impressed. 711 00:40:21,293 --> 00:40:24,213 We... We think we come to the end 712 00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:26,507 and, man, you just push the perimeters out. 713 00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:32,805 We think that we're finally gonna see a conclusion, 714 00:40:33,013 --> 00:40:35,099 we realize that it's just the beginning. 715 00:40:36,767 --> 00:40:40,146 And ultimately, Father, we wanna give all praise and authority to you. 716 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:44,108 We wanna recognize that it is you who has enabled us to exist. 717 00:40:44,191 --> 00:40:46,110 Because you exist, we live. 718 00:40:46,652 --> 00:40:49,697 Bless these that have come to visit us today. 719 00:40:50,281 --> 00:40:51,699 Be with them in a real way. 720 00:40:51,782 --> 00:40:55,786 Make yourself known to them in a way that shows love and kindness, favor. 721 00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:58,956 And we ask these things in your son Jesus's name. Amen. 722 00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:00,124 Amen. 723 00:41:04,253 --> 00:41:05,671 Live the experience. 724 00:41:07,882 --> 00:41:10,682 The whole experience, not part of the experience. The whole experience. 725 00:41:11,969 --> 00:41:13,220 How should I do that? 726 00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:17,349 Surrender. 727 00:41:17,892 --> 00:41:19,059 Surrender. 728 00:41:20,936 --> 00:41:22,229 You know how you surrender? 729 00:41:22,688 --> 00:41:24,857 Ask God to defeat you. 730 00:41:26,442 --> 00:41:28,944 And we'll pray and be in agreement about that. 731 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,239 We'll say, "God, we hear Jesse's prayer. 732 00:41:32,948 --> 00:41:36,911 And we want you to absolutely, totally defeat him. 733 00:41:37,536 --> 00:41:40,206 Bring him to his knees. 734 00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:44,335 Create a desperation for him that only you can meet." 735 00:41:46,295 --> 00:41:47,880 There's no other way. 736 00:42:11,904 --> 00:42:12,905 To submit 737 00:42:13,489 --> 00:42:15,324 feels like the most intimate thing. 738 00:42:15,908 --> 00:42:18,577 That someone understands your pain, right? 739 00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:23,683 So, what does the Family offer them? 740 00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:25,584 The eradication of the self. 741 00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:28,045 That's the promise that they give. 742 00:42:28,921 --> 00:42:31,549 We are the sheep, the flock. 743 00:42:32,424 --> 00:42:35,052 There's a deep, deep potential within Christianity 744 00:42:35,135 --> 00:42:38,264 that we're all part of this flock, we're all sheep. 745 00:42:38,889 --> 00:42:41,725 We've all been there. We've all been down in the mud. 746 00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:43,620 We're always there to pull you back up. 747 00:42:43,644 --> 00:42:47,856 But the Family's first innovation was to say, "No, that's wrong." 748 00:42:48,065 --> 00:42:50,818 "Our mission is to find God's men. 749 00:42:51,193 --> 00:42:55,197 Christians become leaders and help make leaders Christian." 750 00:42:55,364 --> 00:42:57,491 They say that democracy itself 751 00:42:57,866 --> 00:42:59,785 is a form of rebelliousness. 752 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:05,499 It's second to this bland, empty Christ. 753 00:43:06,166 --> 00:43:10,129 The goal is to work toward Ivanwald on a massive scale. 754 00:43:11,171 --> 00:43:15,342 This suburban kind of almost 1950s cul-de-sac 755 00:43:15,759 --> 00:43:17,761 where kids are free to play outside 756 00:43:17,845 --> 00:43:20,639 and they're not worried about anything, and it's bright and sunny. 757 00:43:20,931 --> 00:43:23,392 And if you have a problem, you just turn to your brother 758 00:43:23,475 --> 00:43:25,477 and you share it, and he'll pray with you. 759 00:43:25,561 --> 00:43:29,106 It's the brightest, most brightly lit room there is. 760 00:43:29,398 --> 00:43:31,358 This is the world they're trying to build. 761 00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:35,446 It's a world that is deeply shaped by privilege. 762 00:43:35,779 --> 00:43:37,990 "God chose to give us power. 763 00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:41,201 And if we were not to use this power, 764 00:43:41,577 --> 00:43:43,829 then we would be rebelling against God." 765 00:43:44,246 --> 00:43:47,249 God cares most about the elites. 766 00:43:47,625 --> 00:43:49,043 Everything else will follow. 767 00:43:50,294 --> 00:43:54,715 So, let's export the idea to Nigeria 768 00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:57,760 or Romania or Lebanon, 769 00:43:58,052 --> 00:44:01,096 and let's use the agents of empire to do it. 770 00:44:04,224 --> 00:44:05,934 This is a battle between 771 00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:07,853 good and evil. 772 00:44:07,936 --> 00:44:11,148 But evil is nothing so simple as a supervillain... 773 00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:15,235 and it doesn't always even understand itself as sinister. 774 00:44:17,237 --> 00:44:21,700 But evil is the idea that a few key men, 775 00:44:21,867 --> 00:44:24,703 a few elites, have special access 776 00:44:24,912 --> 00:44:27,289 to truth and the power that comes with it. 777 00:44:27,539 --> 00:44:32,211 And that gives them the right to rule over the rest of us. 778 00:44:32,336 --> 00:44:35,839 Father, I thank you. Now, you have given us a gift: 779 00:44:36,006 --> 00:44:37,216 President Donald Trump. 780 00:44:37,299 --> 00:44:39,843 - Amen. - Amen. 781 00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:45,432 So, the end of all of this 782 00:44:45,641 --> 00:44:48,018 is to be with Jesus Christ, 783 00:44:48,310 --> 00:44:50,187 bound together by this covenant. 784 00:44:50,896 --> 00:44:52,773 It was a taste of Heaven 785 00:44:53,107 --> 00:44:56,318 and we won't see each other for a long time, 786 00:44:56,777 --> 00:44:59,154 but we will feel each other's presence, 787 00:44:59,780 --> 00:45:03,117 together bound in him until we meet each other again. 66159

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