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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:24,940 --> 00:00:27,777 (traffic passing) 4 00:00:46,212 --> 00:00:49,256 (dramatic music) 5 00:00:49,256 --> 00:00:50,299 - It's gonna be a bad Christmas 6 00:00:50,299 --> 00:00:52,719 because tomorrow's the last day we can stay here. 7 00:00:53,719 --> 00:00:56,972 The city wants to close every shop. 8 00:01:00,310 --> 00:01:03,063 - Willets Point has long been known as the Iron Triangle, 9 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:04,605 or the Valley of Ashes. 10 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,444 Between the city agencies and developers, 11 00:01:09,444 --> 00:01:12,237 we have the potential to vote in favor for a plan 12 00:01:12,237 --> 00:01:14,783 that will forever become a new benchmark, 13 00:01:14,783 --> 00:01:17,576 not only for my district, but for all of New York City. 14 00:01:19,953 --> 00:01:22,373 - I don't know exactly why we need a mall, 15 00:01:22,373 --> 00:01:23,750 considering the Skyview Mall 16 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:26,126 is approximately 1500 yards away. 17 00:01:34,885 --> 00:01:35,969 - It's Christmas Day, 18 00:01:37,138 --> 00:01:40,183 and now I gotta find out where I gotta work? 19 00:01:40,183 --> 00:01:44,686 - This has been a big decade of land grabs 20 00:01:44,686 --> 00:01:46,980 by the mayor and rich developers. 21 00:01:49,108 --> 00:01:50,567 - Life's like that sometimes. 22 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:55,656 In the life you have to hold it. 23 00:01:57,534 --> 00:01:59,201 Very hard sometimes. 24 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:02,704 (dramatic music) 25 00:02:40,617 --> 00:02:44,038 (air compressor running) 26 00:03:01,055 --> 00:03:02,556 - [News Reporter] Mike Bloomberg says Willets Point, 27 00:03:02,556 --> 00:03:04,808 the Valley of Ashes, is well on its way 28 00:03:04,808 --> 00:03:07,729 to becoming the site of historic private investment, 29 00:03:07,729 --> 00:03:09,271 major job creation, 30 00:03:09,271 --> 00:03:12,525 and unprecedented environmental remediation. 31 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:16,695 - [Bloomberg] When fully built out, this phase one plan 32 00:03:16,695 --> 00:03:19,240 will result in over 5 million square feet 33 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,574 of new development, 34 00:03:20,574 --> 00:03:23,870 including 2,500 units of housing, 35 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:26,455 35% of which will be affordable, 36 00:03:26,455 --> 00:03:28,540 retail and entertainment venues, 37 00:03:28,540 --> 00:03:31,836 a new hotel and new recreational spaces. 38 00:03:31,836 --> 00:03:33,128 - [News Reporter] His honor says it may have taken 39 00:03:33,128 --> 00:03:34,881 a long time to get to this point, 40 00:03:34,881 --> 00:03:37,717 but it will make a very big difference in our city. 41 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:41,221 Stan Brooks, 1010 WINS, City Hall. 42 00:05:22,822 --> 00:05:24,740 - [News Reporter] A property owner is about to be kicked out 43 00:05:24,740 --> 00:05:27,492 to make way for the Willets Point redevelopment project. 44 00:05:28,661 --> 00:05:29,829 - [News Reporter] Some business owners say 45 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:31,747 they're still negotiating with the city, 46 00:05:31,747 --> 00:05:33,624 and trying to find a place to relocate, 47 00:05:33,624 --> 00:05:34,791 but others say many of them 48 00:05:34,791 --> 00:05:36,877 haven't heard from the city since 2008, 49 00:05:36,877 --> 00:05:38,338 and still don't know how or when 50 00:05:38,338 --> 00:05:39,838 their companies will be moved. 51 00:05:41,007 --> 00:05:43,509 At Willets Point, Stefan Kim, New York 1. 52 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:15,577 - The city doesn't have any plan approved 53 00:08:15,577 --> 00:08:18,872 to develop this area, but right now, 54 00:08:18,872 --> 00:08:20,916 they are sending the letters 55 00:08:20,916 --> 00:08:23,668 to evict everybody in this area. 56 00:08:23,668 --> 00:08:24,920 They close our business, 57 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,216 they kill our families, they kill everybody over here. 58 00:08:28,216 --> 00:08:32,177 We need another place to continue our business. 59 00:08:49,278 --> 00:08:52,615 (solemn instrumental music) 60 00:09:11,884 --> 00:09:13,927 - New York City's economic development policies 61 00:09:13,927 --> 00:09:16,054 are often politically made. 62 00:09:17,472 --> 00:09:18,515 And in New York City, 63 00:09:18,515 --> 00:09:19,392 we have something called 64 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:21,226 the New York City Economic Development Corporation. 65 00:09:21,226 --> 00:09:24,897 But if you're just the average Jane or Joe on the street, 66 00:09:24,897 --> 00:09:26,649 you'd swear it was a city agency. 67 00:09:28,442 --> 00:09:31,946 The mayor's got his hands in it, helps appoint the board. 68 00:09:31,946 --> 00:09:34,490 The reality is, is that it's not a city agency. 69 00:09:34,490 --> 00:09:37,576 It is not accountable to the people of New York. 70 00:09:40,078 --> 00:09:41,621 - The Economic Development Corporation 71 00:09:41,621 --> 00:09:45,208 is an independent not-for-profit corporation, 72 00:09:45,208 --> 00:09:47,836 and its primary purpose is to 73 00:09:47,836 --> 00:09:50,673 develop the economy of the city of New York. 74 00:09:53,216 --> 00:09:55,635 And because it's not technically a city agency, 75 00:09:55,635 --> 00:09:57,596 it's able to move more nimbly, 76 00:09:57,596 --> 00:10:00,390 and to bridge those two very different worlds, 77 00:10:00,390 --> 00:10:01,558 the world of the public sector, 78 00:10:01,558 --> 00:10:03,394 and the world of the private sector. 79 00:10:06,772 --> 00:10:10,025 It manages properties on behalf of the city, 80 00:10:10,985 --> 00:10:14,947 and sells surplus property to put it back into active use. 81 00:10:17,783 --> 00:10:18,951 It also manages 82 00:10:18,951 --> 00:10:21,995 about a two and a half billion dollar capital budget. 83 00:10:21,995 --> 00:10:24,789 The capital comes from the city's capital budget, 84 00:10:24,789 --> 00:10:27,168 and that goes through the normal city council approval, 85 00:10:27,168 --> 00:10:29,503 and then the budget 86 00:10:29,503 --> 00:10:31,630 is eventually signed into law by the mayor. 87 00:10:45,561 --> 00:10:47,980 With a project like Willets Point, 88 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:51,024 where you're talking about 62 acres, 89 00:10:51,024 --> 00:10:53,193 in the middle of a dense urban environment, 90 00:10:54,110 --> 00:10:57,197 there are actually multiple constituencies. 91 00:10:59,075 --> 00:11:01,159 You have people who own the land, 92 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:03,663 the people who work at Willets Point, 93 00:11:03,663 --> 00:11:05,998 the people who own the businesses, 94 00:11:05,998 --> 00:11:08,208 people who are affordable housing advocates. 95 00:11:09,376 --> 00:11:10,794 You have neighbors. 96 00:11:10,794 --> 00:11:13,380 You have the environmental community, 97 00:11:13,380 --> 00:11:16,299 people who are looking for economic development. 98 00:11:18,094 --> 00:11:21,013 What ends up happening is that you have to try to figure out 99 00:11:21,013 --> 00:11:24,600 how best to balance all of those different interests. 100 00:11:26,976 --> 00:11:29,312 And in balancing all of those interests, 101 00:11:29,312 --> 00:11:31,356 as with any compromise, 102 00:11:31,356 --> 00:11:34,275 you inevitably are going to land in a place 103 00:11:34,275 --> 00:11:36,861 that's not gonna satisfy everyone a hundred percent. 104 00:11:38,447 --> 00:11:40,198 - Good morning, I'm council member, Julissa Ferraras, 105 00:11:40,198 --> 00:11:42,659 and I represent the 21st council district, 106 00:11:42,659 --> 00:11:44,160 which includes Willets Point. 107 00:11:45,745 --> 00:11:47,331 As a representative of Willets Point, 108 00:11:47,331 --> 00:11:49,250 I want to ensure the proposed development 109 00:11:49,250 --> 00:11:50,960 is fair and balanced, 110 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,254 with consideration to existing tenants. 111 00:11:54,337 --> 00:11:57,006 While the use of this land has varied over the years, 112 00:11:57,006 --> 00:11:59,509 it now hosts a wealth of auto repair shops 113 00:11:59,509 --> 00:12:01,971 that have gone without many of the essential amenities 114 00:12:01,971 --> 00:12:05,182 other areas of our city experience. 115 00:12:05,182 --> 00:12:07,183 The owners of these shops are predominantly 116 00:12:07,183 --> 00:12:09,854 low income immigrants who have come to our great city 117 00:12:09,854 --> 00:12:11,647 in search of the American dream. 118 00:12:12,523 --> 00:12:15,359 As lawmakers it is our duty to ensure 119 00:12:15,359 --> 00:12:17,318 they have access to the same resources 120 00:12:17,318 --> 00:12:20,155 that any other New Yorker and small business has. 121 00:12:20,155 --> 00:12:21,990 Additionally, I'd like to point out 122 00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:24,493 that the proposal calls for construction 123 00:12:24,493 --> 00:12:26,077 of a housing development. 124 00:12:26,077 --> 00:12:29,498 In 2008, it was made clear that 35% 125 00:12:29,498 --> 00:12:32,293 of the units being constructed will be affordable. 126 00:12:32,293 --> 00:12:34,669 Through this hearing I would like to have clarified 127 00:12:34,669 --> 00:12:37,298 that this commitment will be solidified. 128 00:12:37,298 --> 00:12:39,008 My district is continuing to grow, 129 00:12:39,008 --> 00:12:41,719 and yet there is no affordable housing available, 130 00:12:41,719 --> 00:12:43,345 nor is there enough green space 131 00:12:43,345 --> 00:12:46,264 when we factor in our overcrowded population. 132 00:12:46,264 --> 00:12:47,892 The commitment to affordable housing 133 00:12:47,892 --> 00:12:49,058 and other community needs 134 00:12:49,058 --> 00:12:50,894 would have a tremendous impact 135 00:12:50,894 --> 00:12:53,855 for hundreds of low income residents in my community. 136 00:12:55,399 --> 00:12:57,067 Although there are many positive points 137 00:12:57,067 --> 00:12:58,443 within the proposals, 138 00:12:58,443 --> 00:13:00,153 we must know all the facts, 139 00:13:00,153 --> 00:13:02,114 and the community needs to feel reassured 140 00:13:02,114 --> 00:13:03,823 that this is the best decision. 141 00:13:06,243 --> 00:13:07,327 - The Willets Point development plan 142 00:13:07,327 --> 00:13:08,788 approved by the city council in 2008 143 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:10,080 is one of the most ambitious 144 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,331 physical transformation projects 145 00:13:11,331 --> 00:13:13,583 undertaken in New York City's history. 146 00:13:13,583 --> 00:13:14,876 Willets Point has long tarnished 147 00:13:14,876 --> 00:13:16,879 an otherwise vibrant section of Queens. 148 00:13:17,837 --> 00:13:19,840 This toxic, neglected 62 acres 149 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,801 lacks even the most basic infrastructure, 150 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:23,885 including roads, sidewalk, and utilities. 151 00:13:25,471 --> 00:13:26,471 Despite these challenges, 152 00:13:26,471 --> 00:13:28,557 given its location adjacent to growing neighborhoods 153 00:13:28,557 --> 00:13:30,768 and proximity to highways and mass transit, 154 00:13:30,768 --> 00:13:32,561 both this administration and the council 155 00:13:32,561 --> 00:13:35,523 have seen an opportunity not only to clean the area, 156 00:13:35,523 --> 00:13:38,107 but also to reclaim this underutilized site 157 00:13:38,107 --> 00:13:40,068 by creating a dynamic new neighborhood. 158 00:13:53,374 --> 00:13:56,125 - Willets Point is in the center of the borough. 159 00:14:00,464 --> 00:14:01,966 It's between the two airports. 160 00:14:03,466 --> 00:14:06,511 It's bordered by Flushing Meadow Park, 161 00:14:06,511 --> 00:14:08,972 which is a major recreational area. 162 00:14:10,307 --> 00:14:13,184 The Queens Museum is there, the Queens Theater is there. 163 00:14:16,272 --> 00:14:19,692 Going back to the 1939 World's fair, 164 00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:22,403 you know, it was seen as a showplace in New York City. 165 00:14:25,114 --> 00:14:28,658 But in the last 50 years you have this industry 166 00:14:28,658 --> 00:14:31,287 that's grown up over there, 167 00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:35,249 which has largely been unregulated, 168 00:14:35,249 --> 00:14:38,085 and you know, they've really been sort of a blight. 169 00:14:44,258 --> 00:14:48,261 So the vision is to create a area that is more attractive 170 00:14:48,261 --> 00:14:49,889 to the people who come 171 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:51,724 for the United States Open every year, 172 00:14:51,724 --> 00:14:53,100 come to the Mets games, 173 00:14:54,518 --> 00:14:56,769 to create a neighborhood that's a bright spot 174 00:14:58,062 --> 00:14:59,981 rather than what is today. 175 00:16:04,087 --> 00:16:07,423 - I've been coming to Willets Point for some time. 176 00:16:07,423 --> 00:16:09,802 I can get my car fixed, I can get parts, 177 00:16:09,802 --> 00:16:12,303 I can get tires, I can get rims, 178 00:16:12,303 --> 00:16:15,599 and they have a very good selection here. 179 00:16:20,104 --> 00:16:20,937 I want to see exactly 180 00:16:20,937 --> 00:16:21,980 what they're gonna do with Willets Point. 181 00:16:21,980 --> 00:16:23,649 I know we got Citi Field right there, 182 00:16:23,649 --> 00:16:28,653 and they want to make it more presentable, 183 00:16:29,278 --> 00:16:32,448 'cause it's not the best looking place to drive through, 184 00:16:32,448 --> 00:16:35,326 but it's worth it for the deals. 185 00:16:45,211 --> 00:16:47,923 - The conditions in Willets Point 186 00:16:47,923 --> 00:16:49,549 are like a third world country. 187 00:16:52,260 --> 00:16:54,888 We have streets, but they're like, 188 00:16:54,888 --> 00:16:56,389 look like they've been bombed. 189 00:16:59,350 --> 00:17:01,519 There's potholes all over the place. 190 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:03,647 No sanitation services, 191 00:17:04,605 --> 00:17:06,191 people illegally dump over here, 192 00:17:06,191 --> 00:17:08,027 they don't try to catch anybody. 193 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:14,032 We asked the city to have our streets redone, 194 00:17:14,032 --> 00:17:17,869 and they said, well, we're on a 15 year cycle, 195 00:17:17,869 --> 00:17:21,039 and last time we did the streets was like 10 years ago. 196 00:17:22,958 --> 00:17:25,044 They never did these streets 10 years ago. 197 00:17:30,214 --> 00:17:32,300 They basically just collect taxes 198 00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:34,928 and just leave you to fend for yourself. 199 00:17:38,222 --> 00:17:40,601 Meanwhile, they'll have the street sweeper 200 00:17:40,601 --> 00:17:42,894 going around in front of Citi Field, 201 00:17:42,894 --> 00:17:44,188 sweeping for the Mets. 202 00:17:49,026 --> 00:17:51,612 And now they want to come and take our property 203 00:17:51,612 --> 00:17:54,405 to blame us for their neglect. 204 00:17:58,076 --> 00:18:00,662 The city wants this area to look bad, 205 00:18:02,580 --> 00:18:03,999 because when it looks bad, 206 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,211 then when they put a plan up and they say look, 207 00:18:07,211 --> 00:18:09,337 we're gonna put this there and take this away, 208 00:18:09,337 --> 00:18:12,090 people go for it, like they say, 209 00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:13,342 yeah, yeah, look at that eyesore, 210 00:18:13,342 --> 00:18:14,968 we gotta get rid of that eyesore. 211 00:18:16,553 --> 00:18:19,388 (train squealing) 212 00:18:32,986 --> 00:18:36,906 - The term 'blight' means it's yours, and I want it. 213 00:18:39,076 --> 00:18:39,910 People who run cities 214 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:42,412 don't have to have excuses for doing urban renewal. 215 00:18:42,412 --> 00:18:44,330 They usually say it's vitally important 216 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:46,834 to the city's economy, and they say it's progress. 217 00:18:50,002 --> 00:18:52,088 Urban renewal is just an abstract term, 218 00:18:52,088 --> 00:18:54,924 it could just mean renewing the city. 219 00:18:54,924 --> 00:18:56,759 But it came to be associated 220 00:18:56,759 --> 00:18:59,555 with a program of the United States government 221 00:18:59,555 --> 00:19:02,223 under the Federal Housing Act of 1949, 222 00:19:02,223 --> 00:19:06,811 that involved governments buying huge tracts of city land, 223 00:19:06,811 --> 00:19:08,396 often in the most vulnerable 224 00:19:08,396 --> 00:19:10,566 Black and Hispanic neighborhoods, 225 00:19:10,566 --> 00:19:13,067 exercising their power of eminent domain, 226 00:19:13,067 --> 00:19:16,946 clearing the land, and then giving it to private developers, 227 00:19:16,946 --> 00:19:19,240 for what they called higher uses, 228 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,701 which included housing projects, cultural centers, 229 00:19:21,701 --> 00:19:22,952 medical centers, schools. 230 00:19:26,248 --> 00:19:31,044 That kind of top down land clearance 231 00:19:31,044 --> 00:19:34,173 has a way of destroying the neighborhoods with the poor, 232 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:37,259 and sorting out the city by race and class. 233 00:19:42,388 --> 00:19:47,394 Set a strategy that's still in widespread use, even now. 234 00:20:49,914 --> 00:20:50,999 - [News Reporter] This is one of the mayor's 235 00:20:50,999 --> 00:20:55,545 top development projects for his last 16 months in office. 236 00:20:55,545 --> 00:20:58,589 So expect some bargaining and arm twisting 237 00:20:58,589 --> 00:21:00,925 over the next few months. 238 00:21:18,026 --> 00:21:19,653 - Outrage and anger. 239 00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:21,904 That was the reaction from some in Willets Point, 240 00:21:21,904 --> 00:21:24,365 after hearing that Councilman Hiram Monserrate 241 00:21:24,365 --> 00:21:26,910 is now throwing his support behind the mayor's plan 242 00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:29,037 to redevelop the area. 243 00:21:29,037 --> 00:21:30,955 The city struck the deal with Monserrate, 244 00:21:30,955 --> 00:21:32,499 the community group ACORN 245 00:21:32,499 --> 00:21:34,960 and the Queens for Affordable Housing Coalition, 246 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,838 a day before the city council scheduled vote on the plan. 247 00:22:43,653 --> 00:22:46,405 - Probably around 2008, when the news first broke 248 00:22:46,405 --> 00:22:48,366 about the Willets Point project, 249 00:22:48,366 --> 00:22:50,660 Queens Congregations United for Action, 250 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:52,328 who are now Faith in New York, 251 00:22:52,328 --> 00:22:55,582 came to our church and talked about organizing. 252 00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:59,086 At that time, the issue was 253 00:22:59,086 --> 00:23:02,255 the dislocation of their workers 254 00:23:02,255 --> 00:23:03,839 and businesses that were there. 255 00:23:05,925 --> 00:23:09,554 That's when I got to know about the details of the project, 256 00:23:09,554 --> 00:23:11,556 and the housing that it would include. 257 00:23:12,766 --> 00:23:14,601 Living in Queens for so long, 258 00:23:14,601 --> 00:23:16,269 I was aware of the overcrowding, 259 00:23:17,186 --> 00:23:19,480 the marginal dwellings, the illegal dwellings. 260 00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:24,111 People double up, they triple up in housing, 261 00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:25,862 because they can't afford the rent. 262 00:23:31,742 --> 00:23:34,287 We went to many rallies, 263 00:23:34,287 --> 00:23:37,457 and gathered with other churches, to bring attention. 264 00:23:39,291 --> 00:23:41,294 We had local politicians with us. 265 00:23:42,711 --> 00:23:46,173 Finally, that first project was approved, 266 00:23:46,173 --> 00:23:51,179 and 2000 units of affordable housing were established. 267 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,932 We were elated, we were absolutely elated 268 00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:57,309 at our success, and that the city was going to do that. 269 00:23:58,310 --> 00:24:00,605 Then it all stayed very quiet for a couple of years. 270 00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:02,315 We didn't hear very much. 271 00:24:02,315 --> 00:24:04,901 Then we heard about changes coming, 272 00:24:04,901 --> 00:24:08,779 then we heard about the land being used for something else. 273 00:24:08,779 --> 00:24:10,531 And about a year ago, 274 00:24:10,531 --> 00:24:13,535 we were at a meeting with our local city councilwoman, 275 00:24:13,535 --> 00:24:15,412 Julissa Ferraras, 276 00:24:15,412 --> 00:24:16,371 and she announced to us 277 00:24:16,371 --> 00:24:20,000 that the whole project had been changed. 278 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,669 A different plan was going forward, 279 00:24:22,669 --> 00:24:27,214 and affordable housing was deferred until 2025. 280 00:24:29,634 --> 00:24:31,595 It had totally changed. 281 00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:33,471 This was not the same project at all. 282 00:25:08,464 --> 00:25:09,340 - One of he most contentious parts 283 00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:10,258 of this whole issue, 284 00:25:10,258 --> 00:25:13,720 is that because the Mets, through a 1961 lease, 285 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,015 control that parking lot to the west of Citi Field, 286 00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:19,017 the Related Companies and Sterling Equities, 287 00:25:19,017 --> 00:25:21,810 claim that that land, which is technically mapped Parkland, 288 00:25:21,810 --> 00:25:24,480 it's technically part of Flushing Meadows Corona Park. 289 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,023 They claim that they don't have to ask 290 00:25:26,023 --> 00:25:29,027 the city, the state, the neighbors, the parks department, 291 00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:31,195 or anyone, for permission to build 292 00:25:31,195 --> 00:25:33,114 the biggest mall in New York City, 293 00:25:33,114 --> 00:25:35,491 on a piece of land that if you look on a map, 294 00:25:35,491 --> 00:25:37,410 is owned by the City Parks Department. 295 00:25:38,369 --> 00:25:41,205 And I think what really angers people 296 00:25:41,205 --> 00:25:43,040 is that they know that nothing like this 297 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,251 would ever be proposed in Prospect Park 298 00:25:45,251 --> 00:25:48,505 or Central Park, places that are surrounded by wealth, 299 00:25:48,505 --> 00:25:49,713 but it is proposed here 300 00:25:49,713 --> 00:25:52,384 in a predominantly low to moderate income, 301 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,594 immigrant, nonwhite community. 302 00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:02,685 - Good morning, my name is Richard Brown. 303 00:26:02,685 --> 00:26:04,813 I'm a partner at Sterling Equities. 304 00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:07,481 I thought I'd take a minute to address 305 00:26:07,481 --> 00:26:10,652 some of the threshold questions that we have been answering 306 00:26:10,652 --> 00:26:13,654 for the last a year or so, 307 00:26:13,654 --> 00:26:17,200 mainly, why are we doing this in phases? 308 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,413 Why are we building something in Citi Field's parking lot? 309 00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:23,080 Where is the housing? 310 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,209 And can we really clean up Willets Point? 311 00:26:26,209 --> 00:26:29,837 The main reason I believe that we were chosen by EDC, 312 00:26:29,837 --> 00:26:32,507 in partnership with Related, is that, 313 00:26:32,507 --> 00:26:34,174 because our affiliated company, 314 00:26:34,174 --> 00:26:37,470 Sterling Mets, controls the land and Citi Field, 315 00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:40,598 we have another 75 acres across the street, 316 00:26:40,598 --> 00:26:43,893 we're able to look at this area holistically. 317 00:26:43,893 --> 00:26:46,563 Certainly the transformation of the entire area 318 00:26:46,563 --> 00:26:49,356 is the goal and the vision of everybody involved. 319 00:26:49,356 --> 00:26:51,108 But for our part, 320 00:26:51,108 --> 00:26:56,114 to try to do meaningful retail development, 321 00:26:56,364 --> 00:27:00,035 in that 23 acres, to try to do meaningful housing, 322 00:27:00,035 --> 00:27:04,122 at this particular point, market rate housing, 323 00:27:04,122 --> 00:27:06,040 it's just not economically viable. 324 00:27:06,958 --> 00:27:11,962 So we reached out to Related, and between their resources, 325 00:27:12,087 --> 00:27:16,300 our ability to avail the land west of Citi Field, 326 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:20,888 we embarked on this notion of creating a retail destination. 327 00:27:20,888 --> 00:27:24,517 And again, why are we leading with retail? 328 00:27:24,517 --> 00:27:27,436 You know, many of us who work and live in Queens, 329 00:27:27,436 --> 00:27:29,647 are saying, isn't there enough retail already? 330 00:27:29,647 --> 00:27:31,441 Aren't there enough shopping malls out there, 331 00:27:31,441 --> 00:27:32,483 et cetera, et cetera. 332 00:27:32,483 --> 00:27:35,278 And we've looked at it in detail, 333 00:27:35,278 --> 00:27:39,240 and in basic terms, the number that I take away 334 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,451 is $5 billion a year. 335 00:27:42,451 --> 00:27:47,248 $5 billion a year of shopping gets done 336 00:27:47,248 --> 00:27:51,502 outside the borough of Queens, from Queens residents. 337 00:27:51,502 --> 00:27:54,963 So to me, that's a very telling statistic. 338 00:27:59,094 --> 00:28:01,930 (gulls calling) 339 00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:05,266 (acoustic guitar music) 340 00:28:15,734 --> 00:28:18,445 - Capital is always producing surpluses. 341 00:28:18,445 --> 00:28:19,614 And the reason for that is, 342 00:28:19,614 --> 00:28:23,117 that a capitalist is always looking to create something, 343 00:28:23,117 --> 00:28:24,536 which is more at the end of the day 344 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:26,621 then at the beginning of the day, 345 00:28:26,621 --> 00:28:29,124 and that more at the end of the day is called profit. 346 00:28:34,295 --> 00:28:36,381 Then the question is, what do you do with the profit? 347 00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:38,674 Well, competition forces you 348 00:28:38,674 --> 00:28:40,551 to reinvest that in expansion. 349 00:28:40,551 --> 00:28:45,432 So capital and capitalism are always about growth, 350 00:28:45,432 --> 00:28:48,768 and it has to find new opportunities for growth. 351 00:28:48,768 --> 00:28:53,147 And historically from the 18th century onwards, 352 00:28:53,147 --> 00:28:56,901 capital increasingly took on the idea of city building 353 00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:59,778 as a way of absorbing some surpluses, 354 00:29:00,696 --> 00:29:02,240 and making money out of it. 355 00:29:07,327 --> 00:29:09,079 So you build speculative housing, 356 00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:10,707 and the developer makes money. 357 00:29:15,627 --> 00:29:18,464 You build new infrastructures, 358 00:29:18,464 --> 00:29:21,759 and the developer and the construction industry makes money. 359 00:29:31,310 --> 00:29:35,230 So urbanization is one of the big fields 360 00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:37,400 which absorb surplus capital in ways 361 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,984 which are profitable to capital. 362 00:29:39,986 --> 00:29:44,782 And the profit motive then dominates. 363 00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:10,141 (horn honking) 364 00:30:13,728 --> 00:30:16,314 - The goal of economic development 365 00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:20,234 is to make New York City the most desirable place 366 00:30:20,234 --> 00:30:23,613 in which to live and work in the world, 367 00:30:23,613 --> 00:30:25,448 because in the 21st century, 368 00:30:25,448 --> 00:30:29,243 the most important competitive advantage is your people. 369 00:30:29,243 --> 00:30:32,372 And so, we as a city need to make sure 370 00:30:32,372 --> 00:30:35,916 that we are able to attract the best and the brightest 371 00:30:35,916 --> 00:30:38,461 and people who are able to found companies, 372 00:30:38,461 --> 00:30:41,005 manage companies and work in those companies. 373 00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:42,798 So how do you attract people? 374 00:30:42,798 --> 00:30:44,843 Quality of life is very important, 375 00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:46,510 making sure that the city is safe, 376 00:30:46,510 --> 00:30:48,555 that we have a public school system that works, 377 00:30:48,555 --> 00:30:50,765 that we have open space and cultural institutions 378 00:30:50,765 --> 00:30:51,641 that are magnets, 379 00:30:51,641 --> 00:30:54,394 that we have infrastructure, transportation that works. 380 00:30:57,896 --> 00:31:00,275 How do we make sure that we're not overly reliant 381 00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:02,402 on any one geographical region of the city 382 00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:04,820 and that the benefits of economic growth 383 00:31:04,820 --> 00:31:06,905 are spread as far and as wide as possible 384 00:31:06,905 --> 00:31:08,156 within the five boroughs? 385 00:31:35,684 --> 00:31:37,811 - In 2008, the city said that 386 00:31:37,811 --> 00:31:40,397 when they bought the property off the people, 387 00:31:40,397 --> 00:31:42,025 and they turned it over to the developer, 388 00:31:42,025 --> 00:31:43,734 that they would recoup that money. 389 00:31:48,698 --> 00:31:51,034 Well, they didn't, they spent $250 million, 390 00:31:51,951 --> 00:31:54,578 and they turned around and gave it to the Mets for a dollar. 391 00:31:54,578 --> 00:31:56,914 So they basically gave away $250 million. 392 00:31:58,124 --> 00:32:02,045 On top of that the gave them a $100 million grant 393 00:32:02,045 --> 00:32:05,381 to use towards building this project 394 00:32:05,381 --> 00:32:06,840 and remediating the property. 395 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:08,968 On top of that, they turned around 396 00:32:08,968 --> 00:32:11,804 and gave him a $20 million sales tax exemption. 397 00:32:11,804 --> 00:32:14,265 So I mean, just what we know about, 398 00:32:14,265 --> 00:32:16,183 they're like up to almost $400 million 399 00:32:17,602 --> 00:32:20,438 in tax payer money, just giving it to them free. 400 00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:23,816 I mean, these are billionaires you're talking about. 401 00:32:23,816 --> 00:32:25,276 These are the games that the billionaires 402 00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:26,653 play with each other, 403 00:32:26,653 --> 00:32:28,654 and the small guys, the taxpayers, 404 00:32:28,654 --> 00:32:30,365 wind up footing the bill for it. 405 00:32:35,619 --> 00:32:38,205 - It's pretty impossible to start to connect 406 00:32:38,205 --> 00:32:42,085 exactly how many dollars went into a project like this, 407 00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:43,294 because quite frankly, 408 00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:47,089 these deals are hatched, made, and created, 409 00:32:47,089 --> 00:32:48,799 outside of public view. 410 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:51,051 They are then presented to the rest of us, 411 00:32:51,051 --> 00:32:53,346 as saying, this is a great project, look, 412 00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:54,596 and they put up the fancy pictures, 413 00:32:54,596 --> 00:32:55,765 the beautiful renderings, 414 00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:57,892 and the promise of thousands of jobs. 415 00:32:59,894 --> 00:33:03,105 And then, basically communities are left 416 00:33:03,105 --> 00:33:05,273 to try and grab some crumbs from these projects 417 00:33:05,273 --> 00:33:07,109 to try and find a benefit for them. 418 00:33:29,173 --> 00:33:30,967 - There's been some mention today about phasing. 419 00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:33,760 Let me take you quickly through the phasing. 420 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,471 The very first thing that happens 421 00:33:35,471 --> 00:33:37,222 before anything can happen, 422 00:33:37,222 --> 00:33:39,392 is we clean the 23 acres. 423 00:33:39,392 --> 00:33:41,978 No development will occur on Willets, 424 00:33:41,978 --> 00:33:44,939 until that cleanup is done satisfactory 425 00:33:44,939 --> 00:33:47,275 to both the city and state agencies. 426 00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:48,817 Once that cleanup is done, 427 00:33:48,817 --> 00:33:51,445 we will start our first phase of development, 428 00:33:51,445 --> 00:33:53,489 which will include a hotel, 429 00:33:53,489 --> 00:33:56,534 and approximately 30,000 square feet of retail, 430 00:33:56,534 --> 00:33:59,037 to built along 126th street. 431 00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:01,204 We're trying very much on our first phase 432 00:34:01,204 --> 00:34:02,789 to begin to change 433 00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:05,167 the characterization of this neighborhood. 434 00:34:05,167 --> 00:34:07,127 Second, will be the development 435 00:34:07,127 --> 00:34:08,713 on the Citi Field parking lot, 436 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:12,132 for the million square foot retail and entertainment center. 437 00:34:12,132 --> 00:34:15,802 Then the next phase anticipates that the city of New York 438 00:34:15,802 --> 00:34:19,097 will construct two ramps onto the Van Wyck Expressway 439 00:34:19,097 --> 00:34:22,268 as was contemplated in the 2008 approvals. 440 00:34:22,268 --> 00:34:23,936 And then we would be able to then 441 00:34:23,936 --> 00:34:26,313 enter into our last and fifth phase 442 00:34:26,313 --> 00:34:29,192 that will include 2,500 units of housing, 443 00:34:29,192 --> 00:34:32,152 of which 875 will be affordable, 444 00:34:32,152 --> 00:34:35,822 a school, six-plus acres of open space, 445 00:34:35,822 --> 00:34:38,284 additional hotels, office space, 446 00:34:38,284 --> 00:34:40,244 and local retail to support 447 00:34:40,244 --> 00:34:42,454 the new community that's being built here. 448 00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:47,043 - You know, I can't reiterate 449 00:34:47,043 --> 00:34:48,835 how important this housing piece is, 450 00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:53,215 and the need for housing in our area. 451 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:55,342 So in your experience, 452 00:34:55,342 --> 00:34:58,637 if we had $10 million right now to design the ramps, 453 00:34:58,637 --> 00:35:02,224 would that bring the actual building of the ramps 454 00:35:02,224 --> 00:35:04,643 to a closer date than 2025? 455 00:35:04,643 --> 00:35:08,146 - I think the short answer is, not exactly. 456 00:35:09,648 --> 00:35:13,402 We've actually begun to look at a design 457 00:35:13,402 --> 00:35:16,447 and permitting and approval process for the ramps, 458 00:35:16,447 --> 00:35:17,864 with our capital division. 459 00:35:17,864 --> 00:35:19,699 They believe given the complexity 460 00:35:19,699 --> 00:35:22,161 that it will take a number of years. 461 00:35:24,121 --> 00:35:28,751 - So as EDC, the stewards to our tax dollars, 462 00:35:28,751 --> 00:35:30,961 I don't think that is satisfactory to me, 463 00:35:30,961 --> 00:35:32,547 to my colleagues, to the community. 464 00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:34,090 And that is the issue. 465 00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:38,177 And you put the linchpin on this, you've done it. 466 00:35:38,177 --> 00:35:42,389 You said we can't do housing until we get the ramps. 467 00:35:42,389 --> 00:35:44,182 So, you know, you can't now say, 468 00:35:44,182 --> 00:35:45,643 well, we don't know, we don't, 469 00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:47,603 you know, we're kind of analyzing it. 470 00:35:47,603 --> 00:35:50,148 I don't think it's fair to any of us at this point. 471 00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,117 - One of the things that complicates 472 00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:02,784 planning in New York City enormously, 473 00:36:02,784 --> 00:36:05,036 is the fact that real estate 474 00:36:05,036 --> 00:36:07,456 is like our number one commodity. 475 00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:15,590 So there will always be a lot of stakeholders 476 00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:18,634 who are pushing for quote unquote, highest and best use. 477 00:36:20,427 --> 00:36:22,804 And that means, how to make the most profit 478 00:36:22,804 --> 00:36:24,139 out of a piece of property. 479 00:36:27,434 --> 00:36:29,478 That does not always sit easily 480 00:36:29,478 --> 00:36:31,938 with what a community needs in this neighborhood. 481 00:36:34,775 --> 00:36:38,320 But, you know, as manufacturing left the city, 482 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,322 we lost a substantial tax base, 483 00:36:41,782 --> 00:36:44,659 and the finance insurance real estate industries, 484 00:36:44,659 --> 00:36:47,579 you know, really rose up in that vacuum. 485 00:36:49,539 --> 00:36:51,375 That's a fundamental tension between 486 00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:53,793 what needs to happen citywide 487 00:36:53,793 --> 00:36:55,463 and what needs to happen locally. 488 00:37:00,675 --> 00:37:02,219 - Many of these large developments 489 00:37:02,219 --> 00:37:03,721 are being done in a vacuum. 490 00:37:05,597 --> 00:37:09,059 They're not incorporating the voices, the needs, 491 00:37:09,059 --> 00:37:10,478 the concerns, of people 492 00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:11,978 that actually live in these communities, 493 00:37:11,978 --> 00:37:14,773 to make sure that we're investing tax dollars, 494 00:37:14,773 --> 00:37:17,193 and using land use in a way that will actually benefit 495 00:37:17,193 --> 00:37:18,485 people that need it most. 496 00:37:21,697 --> 00:37:23,740 What often are good quality jobs, 497 00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:27,202 whether it's in manufacturing, or food markets, 498 00:37:27,202 --> 00:37:29,246 might not be the sexiest jobs around, 499 00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:33,166 but to see an administration 500 00:37:33,166 --> 00:37:36,211 literally moving productive businesses 501 00:37:36,211 --> 00:37:38,547 without guaranteeing that they're able 502 00:37:38,547 --> 00:37:41,467 to continue their business somewhere else, 503 00:37:42,467 --> 00:37:47,222 it creates this very elitist view of the city saying, 504 00:37:47,222 --> 00:37:49,641 we know what kind of businesses we want here. 505 00:37:49,641 --> 00:37:51,059 You might be productive. 506 00:37:51,059 --> 00:37:52,686 You might be paying your taxes. 507 00:37:52,686 --> 00:37:54,480 You might be creating jobs 508 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,398 for people that need them. 509 00:37:56,398 --> 00:37:59,318 But we really like these shiny towers. 510 00:37:59,318 --> 00:38:02,237 We really like these sports franchises. 511 00:38:02,237 --> 00:38:03,989 And by the way, the affordable housing, 512 00:38:03,989 --> 00:38:06,242 which is the carrot we used for you, 513 00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:07,909 to have this development move along, 514 00:38:07,909 --> 00:38:09,869 may or may not come in about 20 years. 515 00:38:16,501 --> 00:38:21,507 - I worry about a city that is over-dependent on tourism, 516 00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:25,635 over-dependent on Wall Street. 517 00:38:25,635 --> 00:38:28,179 We have favorite, easy answers, 518 00:38:28,179 --> 00:38:33,184 stadiums, malls, centers of one kind or another. 519 00:38:35,855 --> 00:38:38,690 When a city is so focused on tourism, 520 00:38:38,690 --> 00:38:41,777 it's my feeling that there's a bankruptcy 521 00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:44,780 of real economic ideas 522 00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:49,327 in terms of what makes a productive economy. 523 00:38:53,204 --> 00:38:56,666 - The transformation of the city economy was remarkable. 524 00:38:56,666 --> 00:38:58,835 We had about a million manufacturing jobs 525 00:38:58,835 --> 00:39:00,338 in this city in 1950. 526 00:39:01,463 --> 00:39:04,175 That number continued to shrink year after year. 527 00:39:09,012 --> 00:39:11,139 From the million in 1950, 528 00:39:11,139 --> 00:39:12,766 to about 75,000 today, 529 00:39:12,766 --> 00:39:14,934 so it's a really remarkable transformation. 530 00:39:22,525 --> 00:39:24,277 This was sometimes presented 531 00:39:24,277 --> 00:39:27,114 as just the work of global impersonal forces. 532 00:39:27,114 --> 00:39:28,740 And those were certainly in play, 533 00:39:29,949 --> 00:39:32,119 but this city is very, very planned 534 00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:34,413 by a financial and real estate elite, 535 00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:36,373 who have the timescale of decades. 536 00:39:40,585 --> 00:39:42,755 The high and mighty did not like factories, 537 00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:44,215 they did not like workers. 538 00:39:45,048 --> 00:39:47,050 They wanted clean air, clean streets, 539 00:39:47,050 --> 00:39:49,637 no factories, and no messy working class people. 540 00:39:51,972 --> 00:39:53,181 They wanted to turn the city 541 00:39:53,181 --> 00:39:56,893 from manufacturing to services. 542 00:39:56,893 --> 00:39:59,688 And this goes back as far as the first zoning plan 543 00:39:59,688 --> 00:40:00,523 for the city. 544 00:40:07,362 --> 00:40:09,782 In many ways, New York was a pioneering site 545 00:40:09,782 --> 00:40:11,534 for the neoliberal experiment. 546 00:40:14,161 --> 00:40:15,954 The deregulation, 547 00:40:15,954 --> 00:40:18,081 the cutbacks in social spending, 548 00:40:18,081 --> 00:40:19,541 the financialization, 549 00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:25,047 all the familiar things that have dominated 550 00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:27,382 economic news over the last 30 years or so. 551 00:40:32,762 --> 00:40:35,641 It's striking how little difference there is, 552 00:40:35,641 --> 00:40:37,434 from mayor to mayor, 553 00:40:37,434 --> 00:40:41,438 on basic budget and land use policies. 554 00:40:44,775 --> 00:40:48,027 They'd always benefit a small elite that does very well, 555 00:40:50,364 --> 00:40:53,617 but they don't provide much for everyone else. 556 00:41:02,418 --> 00:41:06,672 - Too many historians speak of the exodus from the city. 557 00:41:06,672 --> 00:41:10,425 It wasn't an exodus, it was a push out of the city. 558 00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:18,099 My family's manufacturing company 559 00:41:18,099 --> 00:41:20,978 was located in Manhattan, in the east thirties, 560 00:41:20,978 --> 00:41:25,983 and our square block was designated for a new post office. 561 00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:31,155 Well, our building alone 562 00:41:31,155 --> 00:41:36,159 had about a dozen production related businesses, 563 00:41:36,994 --> 00:41:39,454 real mixed use, not mixed use 564 00:41:39,454 --> 00:41:42,081 the way developers use the term today 565 00:41:42,081 --> 00:41:44,751 of retail, residential and commercial, 566 00:41:44,751 --> 00:41:48,505 but mixed use in that it had, 567 00:41:48,505 --> 00:41:51,842 there was a school, there was manufacturing. 568 00:41:51,842 --> 00:41:53,092 There were offices, 569 00:41:53,092 --> 00:41:54,719 there were artists' studios. 570 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,139 There was residential of all kinds, 571 00:41:57,139 --> 00:41:59,141 but it was declared blighted. 572 00:41:59,141 --> 00:42:00,809 So we were forced to leave, 573 00:42:00,809 --> 00:42:04,355 and we relocated to Long Island City, 574 00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:06,981 but a number of the businesses in that building 575 00:42:06,981 --> 00:42:10,235 went out of business, or left town. 576 00:42:10,235 --> 00:42:12,570 That land then sat vacant, 577 00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:15,157 and the post office was never built. 578 00:42:15,157 --> 00:42:18,409 And eventually it was sold to developers. 579 00:42:18,409 --> 00:42:21,496 So what did the city gain? 580 00:42:22,956 --> 00:42:25,501 I can't judge what it's got there now, 581 00:42:25,501 --> 00:42:27,585 but I know what it lost, 582 00:42:27,585 --> 00:42:29,963 and that story has been repeated 583 00:42:29,963 --> 00:42:32,550 over and over again around the city. 584 00:43:34,820 --> 00:43:35,903 - What do we need? 585 00:43:35,903 --> 00:43:37,530 - Relocation. 586 00:44:37,132 --> 00:44:40,802 - Now this is something that has needed clarity, 587 00:44:40,802 --> 00:44:43,137 and if we can just talk about where we are 588 00:44:43,137 --> 00:44:46,684 in relocating the tenants at Willets Point. 589 00:44:48,143 --> 00:44:50,603 - Over time, since the approval, 590 00:44:50,603 --> 00:44:54,315 there has been consistent and regular 591 00:44:54,315 --> 00:44:58,362 outreach to businesses in the Willets Point district, 592 00:44:58,362 --> 00:45:00,739 keeping them informed of the status of the plan. 593 00:45:00,739 --> 00:45:04,617 That formal process began over a year ago. 594 00:45:04,617 --> 00:45:08,664 The city sent out notice to the businesses in phase one, 595 00:45:08,664 --> 00:45:13,001 saying that the relocation process would be beginning. 596 00:45:13,001 --> 00:45:17,588 HPD sent out notice to all the businesses 597 00:45:17,588 --> 00:45:18,632 in the phase one area, 598 00:45:18,632 --> 00:45:23,137 informing them of their rights to relocation assistance 599 00:45:23,137 --> 00:45:25,681 for moving and ancillary costs. 600 00:45:25,681 --> 00:45:29,393 Meanwhile, Cornerstone completed outreach, 601 00:45:29,393 --> 00:45:31,936 and began working with businesses 602 00:45:31,936 --> 00:45:36,358 on specific needs, locational and space. 603 00:45:36,358 --> 00:45:37,735 In the springtime, 604 00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:40,278 we sent out notice to tenants 605 00:45:40,278 --> 00:45:42,489 saying that in the coming months, 606 00:45:42,489 --> 00:45:45,159 we would be beginning the vacating process 607 00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,034 to make way for the development. 608 00:45:47,034 --> 00:45:48,494 - [Julissa] Currently, how many businesses 609 00:45:48,494 --> 00:45:52,248 are at Willets Point for relocation purposes? 610 00:45:52,248 --> 00:45:54,876 - Our conservative estimate of the total number 611 00:45:54,876 --> 00:45:58,588 of businesses in the phase one area is 165. 612 00:45:58,588 --> 00:46:01,507 - [Julissa] 165, and of those 165, 613 00:46:01,507 --> 00:46:03,342 you have relocated how many? 614 00:46:05,012 --> 00:46:07,931 - There are relocation plans 615 00:46:07,931 --> 00:46:11,393 that have been processed or in the works 616 00:46:11,393 --> 00:46:13,728 for 10 tenant businesses. 617 00:46:13,728 --> 00:46:15,105 - [Julissa] So we have 10 businesses 618 00:46:15,105 --> 00:46:17,858 that have been engaging with Cornerstone. 619 00:46:17,858 --> 00:46:21,235 We paid $700,000 to move 10 businesses? 620 00:46:21,235 --> 00:46:22,237 - No. 621 00:46:22,237 --> 00:46:24,989 - Okay, explain that to me, 'cause that's what I'm hearing. 622 00:46:24,989 --> 00:46:27,326 - I mean, I would say at the outset 623 00:46:27,326 --> 00:46:31,079 that their work is ongoing and that 624 00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:35,501 they have been in the district speaking to businesses, 625 00:46:35,501 --> 00:46:38,545 and doing relocation site searches, 626 00:46:38,545 --> 00:46:42,715 and engaging with landlords on a daily basis. 627 00:46:42,715 --> 00:46:44,384 - Tom, with all due respect, 628 00:46:44,384 --> 00:46:45,969 Cornerstone has been a part 629 00:46:45,969 --> 00:46:48,554 of these conversations since 2008. 630 00:46:48,554 --> 00:46:52,601 If I contracted with someone for all these years, 631 00:46:52,601 --> 00:46:56,813 and all we've gotten is to get 10 businesses to relocate, 632 00:46:56,813 --> 00:46:59,942 I would be questioning how I engage with them in the future. 633 00:46:59,942 --> 00:47:02,777 - I am confident that they are identifying sites, 634 00:47:02,777 --> 00:47:05,030 talking to people and helping the people. 635 00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:05,864 But at the end of the day- 636 00:47:05,864 --> 00:47:08,699 - [Julissa] 10 businesses makes you confident, president? 637 00:47:08,699 --> 00:47:10,536 - I'm confident that they are working. 638 00:47:10,536 --> 00:47:12,036 They are on the ground finding sites. 639 00:47:12,036 --> 00:47:14,289 However, they cannot force, 640 00:47:14,289 --> 00:47:15,123 they are not in a position 641 00:47:15,123 --> 00:47:18,335 where they can force someone to go sign a lease. 642 00:47:18,335 --> 00:47:21,588 - I think that you have an issue with your timeline, right? 643 00:47:21,588 --> 00:47:25,092 You have 165 businesses, you've moved 10. 644 00:47:25,092 --> 00:47:26,342 And you've told people 645 00:47:26,342 --> 00:47:28,804 that they need to move out by November. 646 00:47:28,804 --> 00:47:32,516 We had had discussions about the support 647 00:47:32,516 --> 00:47:34,768 that these businesses have had for many years, 648 00:47:34,768 --> 00:47:36,228 and they support one another. 649 00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:38,688 That's just the culture of Willets Point. 650 00:47:38,688 --> 00:47:40,815 In these conversations, it was recommended, 651 00:47:40,815 --> 00:47:43,360 why don't they just kind of come together? 652 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,987 And if they come together as a group, 653 00:47:44,987 --> 00:47:46,989 they can be relocated as a group. 654 00:47:46,989 --> 00:47:49,699 And I'm now being told that it's impossible, 655 00:47:49,699 --> 00:47:52,494 the economy, all the reasons why it can't happen. 656 00:47:53,786 --> 00:47:55,706 Yet Cornerstone has also presented 657 00:47:55,706 --> 00:48:00,710 very limited spaces for these businesses to move to. 658 00:48:00,793 --> 00:48:04,088 It's been a total disregard 659 00:48:04,088 --> 00:48:07,092 to what was originally committed to and agreed. 660 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,514 (crowd chanting) 661 00:48:12,514 --> 00:48:16,434 (dramatic piano music) 662 00:51:47,978 --> 00:51:49,815 - When we think of displacement, 663 00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:54,945 what we have to understand is we're not just moving people. 664 00:51:54,945 --> 00:51:59,574 We're breaking up family institutional 665 00:51:59,574 --> 00:52:03,829 friendship networks, that sustain people in, 666 00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:06,581 particularly in low income neighborhoods. 667 00:52:06,581 --> 00:52:11,585 And this kind of network destruction 668 00:52:11,795 --> 00:52:16,800 is the undermining of many family and individual lives. 669 00:52:20,762 --> 00:52:23,056 That really injures 670 00:52:23,056 --> 00:52:26,059 the social and economic fabric of the city. 671 00:52:28,603 --> 00:52:31,940 (acoustic guitar music) 672 00:52:36,862 --> 00:52:41,867 - People live in places, in very specific ways 673 00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:47,079 that are almost culturally choreographed 674 00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:48,581 and developed over time. 675 00:52:52,793 --> 00:52:55,045 So it's a collective, lived experience. 676 00:52:57,715 --> 00:53:02,094 And it enables people to maximize their chances of survival, 677 00:53:02,094 --> 00:53:04,847 but it's dependent on knowing the place, 678 00:53:04,847 --> 00:53:07,474 and on the people knowing each other and working together. 679 00:53:10,269 --> 00:53:11,980 When communities are destroyed, 680 00:53:13,315 --> 00:53:16,735 that way of life is destroyed. 681 00:53:16,735 --> 00:53:21,197 And this throws both the collective and the individuals 682 00:53:21,197 --> 00:53:23,617 into a state of shock. 683 00:53:23,617 --> 00:53:25,784 It's a shock of being torn up by the roots. 684 00:53:28,538 --> 00:53:31,416 Plants, when they're yanked out of the ground, 685 00:53:31,416 --> 00:53:34,251 go into a state of collapse that's called root shock. 686 00:53:37,047 --> 00:53:39,757 Applying that as a metaphor to human populations, 687 00:53:39,757 --> 00:53:43,177 I've defined root shock, as the traumatic stress reaction 688 00:53:43,177 --> 00:53:47,974 to the loss of part or all of one's emotional ecosystem. 689 00:53:51,518 --> 00:53:56,483 It's a extremely important assault on a way of life, 690 00:53:56,483 --> 00:53:59,568 and the project of recreating a way of life, 691 00:53:59,568 --> 00:54:02,822 is very difficult because people are typically dispersed. 692 00:54:05,282 --> 00:54:07,577 So they lose the people with whom 693 00:54:07,577 --> 00:54:10,538 they had the habit of making a life together, 694 00:54:12,706 --> 00:54:13,958 but they also lose the place 695 00:54:13,958 --> 00:54:16,168 where they had the habit of making the life. 696 00:54:34,771 --> 00:54:35,938 - [News Reporter] How long are you prepared 697 00:54:35,938 --> 00:54:37,898 to go on a hunger strike? 698 00:54:37,898 --> 00:54:39,567 - Somebody has to help. 699 00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:44,447 Somebody has to say something so, 700 00:54:44,447 --> 00:54:46,449 it's all that we can do. 701 00:55:50,221 --> 00:55:52,639 - We got the opportunity to get the official contract 702 00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:54,434 between the city and the developers. 703 00:55:54,434 --> 00:55:59,438 And we know that is not any legal guarantee that relocations 704 00:55:59,438 --> 00:56:03,025 or affordable housing is going to happen in this project. 705 00:56:03,025 --> 00:56:05,487 The only guarantee that we have right now 706 00:56:05,487 --> 00:56:08,614 is that the biggest mall in New York, 707 00:56:08,614 --> 00:56:11,242 a hotel and a retail center, 708 00:56:11,242 --> 00:56:13,244 is gonna happen right here. 709 00:56:13,244 --> 00:56:15,413 After that, nothing else. 710 00:56:22,545 --> 00:56:23,963 - [Crowd] No! 711 00:56:40,980 --> 00:56:43,108 (crowd cheering) 712 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,403 (solemn music) 713 00:59:28,273 --> 00:59:29,815 It’s tomorrow that decision. 714 00:59:29,815 --> 00:59:32,235 And that's the big problem, the time. 715 00:59:32,235 --> 00:59:33,777 It's not enough time. 716 00:59:34,195 --> 00:59:36,239 We're still in communication with the lawyers 717 00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:40,784 and Julissa's office, and you know, we're still working. 718 01:00:22,909 --> 01:00:25,913 (solemn piano music) 719 01:00:29,958 --> 01:00:33,755 - There was a time I think when the agency was, 720 01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:36,673 I think much more controversial. 721 01:00:37,925 --> 01:00:40,552 What it was known for was a combination 722 01:00:40,552 --> 01:00:43,722 of large scale real estate projects 723 01:00:43,722 --> 01:00:46,976 and giving tax incentives to corporations, 724 01:00:46,976 --> 01:00:49,478 mainly large corporations in Manhattan, 725 01:00:49,478 --> 01:00:51,981 to try to retain jobs here. 726 01:00:51,981 --> 01:00:56,193 Both of those continued to be tools in the EDC's toolkits, 727 01:00:56,193 --> 01:00:57,778 but the focus of the organization 728 01:00:57,778 --> 01:00:59,739 has become much more strategic. 729 01:00:59,739 --> 01:01:02,032 And the goal now of the organization 730 01:01:02,032 --> 01:01:03,242 is to think more broadly 731 01:01:03,242 --> 01:01:05,411 about the future of the city's economy, 732 01:01:05,411 --> 01:01:09,164 and rather than being so tactical and saying, 733 01:01:09,164 --> 01:01:10,958 this company is critical, 734 01:01:10,958 --> 01:01:13,378 or this real estate project is critical, 735 01:01:13,378 --> 01:01:16,005 it's thinking about where we hope to see 736 01:01:16,005 --> 01:01:19,050 the city evolve in the coming decades, 737 01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:21,802 and then figuring out the kind of large scale investments 738 01:01:21,802 --> 01:01:25,639 that we can make to help move the city towards those goals. 739 01:01:31,521 --> 01:01:35,108 I think the good news about the Willets Point development 740 01:01:35,108 --> 01:01:38,735 is that the plan that is now moving forward 741 01:01:38,735 --> 01:01:41,822 is a plan that is going to remediate 742 01:01:41,822 --> 01:01:44,032 20 acres of a highly toxic site. 743 01:01:45,827 --> 01:01:49,414 You're going to have the creation of a new economic engine 744 01:01:49,414 --> 01:01:51,998 in the parking lot at Citi Field, 745 01:01:51,998 --> 01:01:54,543 that's gonna create hundreds and hundreds of jobs 746 01:01:54,543 --> 01:01:55,460 for the community. 747 01:01:58,130 --> 01:01:59,882 And ultimately you're going to get 748 01:01:59,882 --> 01:02:02,427 the development on Willets Point, 749 01:02:02,427 --> 01:02:06,054 including the 35% of housing units that will be affordable. 750 01:02:07,347 --> 01:02:09,141 You're gonna get the infrastructure, 751 01:02:09,141 --> 01:02:10,434 and you're gonna get jobs. 752 01:02:12,436 --> 01:02:14,646 It will also result in the relocation 753 01:02:14,646 --> 01:02:16,065 of many of the industrial jobs 754 01:02:16,065 --> 01:02:17,525 that were there in the first place. 755 01:02:17,525 --> 01:02:19,735 And so you'll end up with an economy 756 01:02:19,735 --> 01:02:22,070 that is more diversely employed 757 01:02:22,070 --> 01:02:24,865 than you had before the project took place. 758 01:02:30,996 --> 01:02:34,083 - That area has outgrown these businesses. 759 01:02:35,876 --> 01:02:38,086 Hopefully, eventually, all of the businesses 760 01:02:38,086 --> 01:02:41,298 will be accommodated to their satisfaction, 761 01:02:41,298 --> 01:02:44,635 but you know, there's a major overall goal here. 762 01:02:44,635 --> 01:02:46,971 You know, these businesses do not have to exist 763 01:02:46,971 --> 01:02:49,681 in such a centrally located area of Queens. 764 01:03:21,797 --> 01:03:24,467 - For those of you who are unfamiliar with my district, 765 01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:25,885 Willets Point has long been known 766 01:03:25,885 --> 01:03:29,137 as the Iron Triangle or the Valley of Ashes 767 01:03:29,137 --> 01:03:30,681 because of the industrial network 768 01:03:30,681 --> 01:03:32,891 of the auto shops, junk yards, and factories, 769 01:03:32,891 --> 01:03:35,603 that have occupied this space of land. 770 01:03:35,603 --> 01:03:38,731 For years, this area has gone without many of the resources 771 01:03:38,731 --> 01:03:41,442 the rest of the city has regularly received. 772 01:03:41,442 --> 01:03:42,902 Before us today is a proposal 773 01:03:42,902 --> 01:03:44,820 that seeks to address these issues. 774 01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:46,947 Between the city agencies and developers, 775 01:03:46,947 --> 01:03:49,699 we have the potential to vote in favor for a plan 776 01:03:49,699 --> 01:03:52,244 that will forever become a new benchmark, 777 01:03:52,244 --> 01:03:55,206 not only for my district, but for all of New York City. 778 01:03:56,833 --> 01:03:59,585 After many long years of reviewing this proposal 779 01:03:59,585 --> 01:04:02,588 and taking my constituents concerns into account, 780 01:04:02,588 --> 01:04:04,673 I have found that this ambitious proposal 781 01:04:04,673 --> 01:04:06,675 will bring affordable housing. 782 01:04:07,592 --> 01:04:12,139 Additionally, this project is set to create 19,000 jobs 783 01:04:12,139 --> 01:04:13,849 that are so desperately needed 784 01:04:13,849 --> 01:04:15,476 in Queens and in New York City. 785 01:04:16,393 --> 01:04:19,813 A business and worker relocation plan has been created 786 01:04:19,813 --> 01:04:22,483 to assist the existing tenants at Willets Point 787 01:04:22,483 --> 01:04:25,235 with the continued operation of their business. 788 01:04:25,235 --> 01:04:28,905 The city will pay 15.5 million for the relocation, 789 01:04:28,905 --> 01:04:32,492 moving expense, and support of the Willets Point businesses, 790 01:04:32,492 --> 01:04:35,413 including those businesses that want to move together. 791 01:04:36,414 --> 01:04:39,583 This vote has always been about improving the needs 792 01:04:39,583 --> 01:04:42,253 of our constituents, and it is for them 793 01:04:42,253 --> 01:04:45,590 that today I ask you all to vote 'yes,' thank you. 794 01:04:48,967 --> 01:04:49,802 - [Chairman] William Martin, committee clerk, 795 01:04:49,802 --> 01:04:52,054 roll call vote committee on land use. 796 01:04:52,054 --> 01:04:53,514 Council member Comrie? 797 01:04:53,514 --> 01:04:55,307 - [Comrie] Aye on all. 798 01:04:55,307 --> 01:04:56,309 - [Chairman] Rivera? 799 01:04:57,643 --> 01:04:59,144 Reyna? 800 01:04:59,144 --> 01:04:59,978 - [Reyna] Aye on all. 801 01:04:59,978 --> 01:05:01,146 - [Chairman] Koslovitz? 802 01:05:01,146 --> 01:05:03,733 - [Koslovitz] May I be excused to explain my vote? 803 01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:04,567 - [Chairman] Yes. 804 01:05:04,567 --> 01:05:08,862 - I've lived in Queens for 50 years, 805 01:05:08,862 --> 01:05:13,784 and Willets Point was always a blight to the borough 806 01:05:13,784 --> 01:05:16,411 and to the community that it surrounded. 807 01:05:17,413 --> 01:05:21,541 I have to say that Julissa Fererras 808 01:05:21,541 --> 01:05:24,378 did a spectacular job. 809 01:05:24,378 --> 01:05:29,175 We've been talking about Willets Point for over 30 years, 810 01:05:29,175 --> 01:05:32,010 trying to get something done there. 811 01:05:32,010 --> 01:05:34,304 Congratulations, and I vote aye. 812 01:05:35,139 --> 01:05:36,181 - [Chairman] Jackson? 813 01:05:37,516 --> 01:05:38,684 Vann? 814 01:05:38,684 --> 01:05:39,559 - [Vann] Aye. 815 01:05:39,559 --> 01:05:41,103 - [Chairman] Palma? 816 01:05:41,103 --> 01:05:42,771 Arroyo? 817 01:05:42,771 --> 01:05:43,606 Higgins? 818 01:05:44,690 --> 01:05:45,608 Halloran? 819 01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:47,318 - [Halloran] Request permission to explain my vote. 820 01:05:47,318 --> 01:05:48,277 - [Chairman] Yes. 821 01:05:48,277 --> 01:05:49,945 - I believe council member Ferreras 822 01:05:49,945 --> 01:05:51,197 has done an incredible job 823 01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:53,574 against a almost a movable object, 824 01:05:53,574 --> 01:05:55,826 but I will respectfully be voting no. 825 01:05:56,702 --> 01:05:57,744 The threat of eminent domain 826 01:05:57,744 --> 01:06:00,831 has hung over these businesses since 2008. 827 01:06:00,831 --> 01:06:03,083 Anytime the government wants to redistribute the wealth 828 01:06:03,083 --> 01:06:04,501 by taking it from one person 829 01:06:04,501 --> 01:06:07,630 and giving it to another business, as opposed to the city, 830 01:06:07,630 --> 01:06:10,048 we have thwarted the very meaning of eminent domain, 831 01:06:10,048 --> 01:06:14,094 and the reason our framers made such careful use of it. 832 01:06:14,094 --> 01:06:16,514 I don't know exactly why we need a mall 833 01:06:16,514 --> 01:06:17,889 considering the Skyview Mall 834 01:06:17,889 --> 01:06:20,518 is approximately 1500 yards away, 835 01:06:20,518 --> 01:06:23,103 which contains retail space, 836 01:06:23,103 --> 01:06:25,731 which is currently being under utilized, 837 01:06:25,731 --> 01:06:28,733 parking space, which is currently being underutilized. 838 01:06:28,733 --> 01:06:31,195 The process should have started from scratch again, 839 01:06:31,195 --> 01:06:35,490 because the plan isn't in any way, shape, or form, 840 01:06:35,490 --> 01:06:39,202 the same that this body voted on in 2008. 841 01:06:39,202 --> 01:06:40,538 So I will vote no on those, 842 01:06:40,538 --> 01:06:42,081 with all due respect to the council member, 843 01:06:42,081 --> 01:06:43,623 who I think did a great job 844 01:06:43,623 --> 01:06:45,501 of forcing the administration to the table, 845 01:06:45,501 --> 01:06:47,545 but it was a day late and a dollar short. 846 01:06:49,505 --> 01:06:50,672 - [Chairman] Barron? 847 01:06:50,672 --> 01:06:52,717 - [Barron] May I be excused to explain my vote? 848 01:06:52,717 --> 01:06:53,550 - [Chairman] Yes. 849 01:06:53,550 --> 01:06:56,177 - My colleagues, I'm voting no one Willets Point. 850 01:06:56,177 --> 01:06:59,139 Mayor Bloomberg has rezoned this city. 851 01:06:59,139 --> 01:07:02,143 Developers are getting richer and richer. 852 01:07:02,143 --> 01:07:04,019 Over a hundred million dollars 853 01:07:04,019 --> 01:07:08,065 in the Willets Point project has been given for subsidies, 854 01:07:08,065 --> 01:07:11,568 and in return we get 35% of the housing affordable. 855 01:07:11,568 --> 01:07:14,530 65% of it will not be affordable, 856 01:07:14,530 --> 01:07:16,282 while you get a prevailing wage, 857 01:07:16,282 --> 01:07:17,907 the retail workers, 858 01:07:17,907 --> 01:07:21,077 we don't think they'll be getting a living wage. 859 01:07:21,077 --> 01:07:24,039 And the alienation of Parkland continues. 860 01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:26,333 I think we, as a city council, 861 01:07:26,333 --> 01:07:30,003 we have to make sure that we get much more from developers. 862 01:07:30,003 --> 01:07:31,588 If they're gonna come into our district, 863 01:07:31,588 --> 01:07:33,007 we should say what we want, 864 01:07:33,007 --> 01:07:37,260 and the housing formula should be 65% affordable 865 01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:40,722 and 35% should be market. 866 01:07:40,722 --> 01:07:43,184 Mayor Bloomberg has given this city away 867 01:07:43,184 --> 01:07:45,643 to rich developers for $1. 868 01:07:45,643 --> 01:07:48,146 And while our council members have done well 869 01:07:48,146 --> 01:07:51,733 in negotiating things for their constituents, 870 01:07:51,733 --> 01:07:54,445 this has been a big decade 871 01:07:54,445 --> 01:07:58,740 of land grabs by the mayor and rich developers. 872 01:07:58,740 --> 01:08:01,619 We have to stand for the people of New York City, 873 01:08:01,619 --> 01:08:04,789 and not give the city up so easily 874 01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:06,456 for the deals that are being made. 875 01:08:07,833 --> 01:08:08,958 - [Chairman] Garodnick? 876 01:08:10,878 --> 01:08:12,170 Mendez? 877 01:08:12,170 --> 01:08:13,297 - [Mendez] Aye on all. 878 01:08:14,507 --> 01:08:16,132 - [Chairman] Levin? 879 01:08:16,132 --> 01:08:18,094 - Aye on all, congratulations to Councilor Ferreras, 880 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:19,804 on a job well done. 881 01:08:19,804 --> 01:08:20,805 - [Chairman] Weprin? 882 01:08:21,721 --> 01:08:22,972 Wills? 883 01:08:22,972 --> 01:08:23,807 - [Wills] Aye on all. 884 01:08:23,807 --> 01:08:25,016 - [Chairman] Ignizio? 885 01:08:25,016 --> 01:08:25,850 - [Ignizio] Aye. 886 01:08:27,185 --> 01:08:28,020 - Thank you very much. 887 01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:29,939 All items on today's general order calendar, 888 01:08:29,939 --> 01:08:32,774 we're adopted by a vote of 46 in the affirmative, 889 01:08:32,774 --> 01:08:35,277 zero in the negative with zero abstentions, 890 01:08:35,277 --> 01:08:37,779 with the exception of land use items, 891 01:08:37,779 --> 01:08:41,617 88-76 plus rezo 1960, 892 01:08:41,617 --> 01:08:44,787 LU 881 plus rezo 1965, 893 01:08:46,704 --> 01:08:50,000 which was adopted by a vote of 42 in the affirmative, 894 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,377 three in the a negative and one abstentions. 895 01:08:52,377 --> 01:08:57,298 And LU 902, with rezo 1975, 896 01:08:57,298 --> 01:09:00,344 which was adopted by a vote of 44 in the affirmative, 897 01:09:00,344 --> 01:09:02,720 two in the negative and zero abstentions. 898 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,434 And LU items 904 with rezo 1977, 899 01:09:07,434 --> 01:09:12,314 LU 909, and rezo 1982, 900 01:09:12,314 --> 01:09:15,234 which was adopted by a vote of 45 in the affirmative, 901 01:09:15,234 --> 01:09:17,528 one in the negative and zero abstentions. 902 01:09:17,528 --> 01:09:20,280 (dramatic piano music) 903 01:11:17,773 --> 01:11:20,024 - They're giving everybody a deadline, 904 01:11:20,024 --> 01:11:21,359 and everybody has to leave. 905 01:11:22,569 --> 01:11:23,404 Phase one. 906 01:11:30,828 --> 01:11:34,289 Cleaning up and giving the keys to the city. 907 01:11:47,427 --> 01:11:50,889 - The city says you have like $11,000 908 01:11:50,889 --> 01:11:52,557 if you move this month. 909 01:11:56,395 --> 01:11:59,355 But you stay here for January, 910 01:11:59,355 --> 01:12:01,274 you have like maybe $4,000, 911 01:12:04,903 --> 01:12:05,738 and that's it. 912 01:12:11,493 --> 01:12:13,412 I don't know where I'm going to go. 913 01:12:13,412 --> 01:12:15,331 I don't know where I'm going to go. 914 01:13:31,698 --> 01:13:34,618 (dark piano music) 915 01:13:51,717 --> 01:13:54,387 (horn honking) 916 01:14:04,856 --> 01:14:07,900 - I think it's very important to understand that capitalism, 917 01:14:07,900 --> 01:14:10,487 capital in general, that in fact, 918 01:14:10,487 --> 01:14:12,363 it's always powered by fictions. 919 01:14:14,574 --> 01:14:17,286 In effect, what is often happening 920 01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:19,121 is fictions become reality. 921 01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:24,667 For instance, you imagine there's gonna be a new city, 922 01:14:26,587 --> 01:14:29,422 and then you make the city and it becomes real. 923 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,266 What we're faced with right now is a form of urbanization, 924 01:14:40,266 --> 01:14:43,436 which is largely been dictated by the forces of capital, 925 01:14:43,436 --> 01:14:44,938 of capital accumulation. 926 01:14:47,356 --> 01:14:49,067 And to some degree, we've become 927 01:14:49,067 --> 01:14:51,360 the kind of people the capital wants us to be. 928 01:15:03,916 --> 01:15:06,001 - The way the city has evolved over the decades, 929 01:15:06,001 --> 01:15:08,712 it's not natural, it's not spontaneous at all. 930 01:15:08,712 --> 01:15:10,005 It's very, very planned. 931 01:15:15,594 --> 01:15:18,012 There are human beings, very powerful human beings, 932 01:15:18,012 --> 01:15:21,140 using state power to realize their vision 933 01:15:21,140 --> 01:15:23,018 of what they want the city to look like, 934 01:15:23,018 --> 01:15:24,685 20, 30, 40 years from now. 935 01:15:26,145 --> 01:15:27,980 It happens mostly out of public view. 936 01:15:30,399 --> 01:15:32,985 This idea that all these things happen spontaneously, 937 01:15:32,985 --> 01:15:34,863 because of forces of nature, 938 01:15:34,863 --> 01:15:36,657 I think is what people have internalized 939 01:15:36,657 --> 01:15:38,367 about this kind of market fundamentalism 940 01:15:38,367 --> 01:15:40,993 that's become popular over the last several decades. 941 01:15:43,037 --> 01:15:45,791 If you can have elites doing this kind of planning, 942 01:15:46,667 --> 01:15:48,752 why can't you have, you know, popular interests, 943 01:15:48,752 --> 01:15:52,171 doing similar planning for more broader benefit? 944 01:15:59,304 --> 01:16:01,430 - All American cities have suffered 945 01:16:01,430 --> 01:16:05,185 from a very long series of bad policies 946 01:16:05,185 --> 01:16:08,271 of which the industrialization, urban renewal, 947 01:16:08,271 --> 01:16:10,356 highway building, gentrification, 948 01:16:10,356 --> 01:16:13,402 the foreclosure crisis, are all examples. 949 01:16:18,364 --> 01:16:19,783 I would define economic development 950 01:16:19,783 --> 01:16:22,452 as supporting the integrity of the human habitat 951 01:16:22,452 --> 01:16:25,247 and helping everybody survive. 952 01:16:25,247 --> 01:16:27,207 Whereas what we call economic development 953 01:16:27,207 --> 01:16:28,332 is really just an opportunity 954 01:16:28,332 --> 01:16:30,042 for somebody to make a quick buck. 955 01:16:34,463 --> 01:16:35,923 So we have to find a new way. 956 01:16:38,092 --> 01:16:39,595 We have to find a way to nurture the neighborhoods. 957 01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,637 We have to stabilize the neighborhoods we have, 958 01:16:41,637 --> 01:16:43,724 to get to the good that we want. 959 01:17:35,108 --> 01:17:38,153 (hopeful piano music) 960 01:19:08,993 --> 01:19:12,706 (dramatic orchestral music) 70943

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