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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,420 --> 00:00:05,580 [Music] 2 00:00:06,839 --> 00:00:09,120 it's 3 00:00:09,180 --> 00:00:15,689 [Music] 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:22,720 rotating disturbing videos of UFOs have 5 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:25,400 been taken by some of the best trained 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:28,000 pilots on the planet we actually have 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,920 military pilots who are saying I saw 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,399 something that I don't understand 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,239 unknown and Fe unknown we don't know 10 00:00:33,399 --> 00:00:37,680 what they actually saw we only have 11 00:00:35,239 --> 00:00:39,360 their interpretation of it so this is 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,360 the helmet that I was wearing it would 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,440 be really irresponsible to suggest that 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,039 all of these things are of the same 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,000 origin that they're of the same 16 00:00:46,039 --> 00:00:51,440 technology that they're of the same 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,239 phenomenon we can't say it's aliens but 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,120 we can't say it's not aliens people in 19 00:00:53,239 --> 00:00:57,680 New Jersey are concerned and what about 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:00,320 the explosion of news reports of strange 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:04,000 objects flying over New Jersey upwards 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:06,119 of 49 plus drone seds as scientists we 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,759 also want to get to the bottom of this 24 00:01:06,119 --> 00:01:12,960 there's an aircraft there we go what are 25 00:01:08,759 --> 00:01:12,960 UFOs right now on 26 00:01:13,010 --> 00:01:24,199 [Music] 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,600 Nova as an American based supplier to 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,280 the construction industry carile is 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,079 committed to developing a diverse 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,000 workplace that supports our employees 31 00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:38,920 advancement into the next generation of 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,880 leaders from the manufacturing floor to 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:46,920 the front office learn more at 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:50,280 [Music] 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:53,000 car.com in the halls of Congress Navy 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Pilots are speaking out this object 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,159 remained for about 45 seconds or so 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,960 before darting off over the mountains we 39 00:01:57,159 --> 00:02:01,600 were seeing objects with our Radars with 40 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:04,640 our cameras and even with our eyes 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:07,640 flying on an almost daily basis we're 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,599 very sensitive to how things turn and 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,879 how things accelerate and how things 44 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:14,120 move and this didn't follow any of those 45 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:17,599 laws of 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:20,360 physics as of 20123 military and 47 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:24,200 commercial pilots have reported seeing 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:26,200 801 objects they couldn't identify when 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,360 we're talking about having an 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,760 unidentified thing in our airspace 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:35,160 whether it's directly overhead or in our 52 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:38,239 Coastal Waters we need to figure out is 53 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,879 this an issue of flight safety is this 54 00:02:38,239 --> 00:02:44,640 an issue of National Security is this an 55 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:47,640 adversary spying on us or could it be 56 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:50,239 top secret Tech developed right here at 57 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:52,080 home I can tell you unequivocally that 58 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:54,159 the government does keep secrets when it 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,560 comes to Aerospace technology the 60 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:59,440 Pentagon has what we often call a black 61 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,440 budget which can sometimes exceed 65 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,400 billion 63 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,560 in a 64 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,879 year even within the military there's 65 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,640 never been a consensus really that it's 66 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:10,640 this or that or that it's not 67 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:17,280 extraterrestrial we cannot rule out 68 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:21,319 extraterrestrials but you have no 69 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,319 evidence for it it comes back to the 70 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,519 evidence regular citizens have been 71 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,120 reporting things for decades and yet we 72 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:32,959 hear nothing from the government about 73 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,040 what this may be and now that we have 74 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:36,599 more 75 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,720 observations more cameras more cell 76 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:41,879 phones that are taking pictures of 77 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:44,760 phenomenon in our atmosphere scientists 78 00:03:41,879 --> 00:03:47,680 need to come forward and talk about how 79 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:50,200 we can identify these 80 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,480 objects in science we encounter 81 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,120 anomalies all the time and it's our job 82 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,840 to try to figure out what those 83 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,460 anomalies are telling us about the 84 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:05,360 universe 85 00:03:57,460 --> 00:04:05,360 [Music] 86 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,439 this isn't the first time unidentified 87 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,439 flying objects have captured our 88 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:16,799 imagination and startled the 89 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:22,000 world it was back in the 1940s that 90 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:24,800 sightings started piling up June 24th 91 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,639 1947 as he flew near Mount reneer in 92 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:30,639 Washington state pilot Kenneth Arnold 93 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:33,400 spotted something strange 94 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:36,919 as he was flying around he said he saw 95 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,840 these objects glinting off of the sun 96 00:04:36,919 --> 00:04:42,560 because they mve like they were skipping 97 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:44,759 off of water the term Flying Saucer came 98 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,880 about at the time there were other 99 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:49,240 people having sightings but this is the 100 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:52,560 one that just really kind of ignite this 101 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:56,280 interest in the public about 102 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:58,840 UFOs from New York to California people 103 00:04:56,280 --> 00:05:00,720 started to report seeing flying saucers 104 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:04,000 just about 105 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:06,919 everywhere sightings were spreading like 106 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,360 wildfire culture informs our 107 00:05:06,919 --> 00:05:12,120 understanding of the world around us if 108 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,800 you expect to see a UFO that looks like 109 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,840 a pyen well when you see something 110 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,240 unusual in the sky that you have trouble 111 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:23,360 Discerning what it was your brain may be 112 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:26,240 more apt to say that look like a 113 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:29,680 pyen it may seem strange that in the 114 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:33,479 1940s and 50s so many Americans were 115 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:37,280 were suddenly spotting objects in the 116 00:05:33,479 --> 00:05:39,720 sky but with the Cold War in full swing 117 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:43,240 it was a time of heightened anxiety and 118 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:45,400 worry about new threats overhead this 119 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:49,319 was a time period in which there was a 120 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:52,240 lot of military technology 121 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:56,360 Development coming out of World War 122 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,360 II we have developed 123 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:02,960 radar this was the first major war where 124 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,840 air power was a huge 125 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,280 player and there was a lot of unknown 126 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:11,039 Tech 127 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:12,759 emerging all of these things kind of 128 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:14,080 came together and then of course you had 129 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:18,080 the Roswell 130 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:20,720 incident Roswell New Mexico a Rancher 131 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:24,039 came across another piece of the Flying 132 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:26,520 Saucer puzzle essentially this ranchan 133 00:06:24,039 --> 00:06:28,280 comes in says I found this material they 134 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,479 send a couple Air Force people from 135 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:33,120 Roswell Army Airfield out to take a look 136 00:06:31,479 --> 00:06:33,960 one of them says hey I think this stuff 137 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,080 was 138 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:40,759 weird they take the material to Fort 139 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,759 Worth Fort wor says it was obviously a 140 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:44,280 weather 141 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:48,240 balloon story's 142 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:50,720 over but the public wasn't buying it and 143 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,360 Hollywood saw an opportunity to run with 144 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:56,080 a captivating 145 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Story aliens sometimes friendly and 146 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:02,039 sometimes not were visiting planet Earth 147 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,639 the lack of Answers by the government 148 00:07:02,039 --> 00:07:07,759 did leave a void and Hollywood and and 149 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:10,350 entertainment certainly filled that void 150 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:11,680 Earth versus the flying 151 00:07:10,350 --> 00:07:14,639 [Music] 152 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:17,400 saucers and we were left with a wide 153 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:19,680 assortment of scenarios imagining 154 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,879 contact with aliens with saucers or 155 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,199 aliens on the moon or Mars or alien 156 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:26,960 invasions that are quite dramatic what 157 00:07:24,199 --> 00:07:29,039 are they where do they come from 158 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,160 certainly this can uh instill a lot of 159 00:07:29,039 --> 00:07:32,160 fear in 160 00:07:33,479 --> 00:07:40,199 people in the absence of 161 00:07:36,479 --> 00:07:42,840 scientists or other authoritative voices 162 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:43,879 filling the Gap and and explaining 163 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,080 what's going 164 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:49,080 on all we heard from the authorities was 165 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,960 there's nothing to see 166 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,199 here but behind the scenes the military 167 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,039 was 168 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:58,199 investigating probably the most 169 00:07:56,039 --> 00:08:00,120 significant historical investigation of 170 00:07:58,199 --> 00:08:02,759 UFOs by the government was Project Blue 171 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,919 Book it investigated thousands and 172 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:09,000 thousands of UFO 173 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:12,000 sightings for more than 20 years 174 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:16,199 military investigators and scientists 175 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:20,199 scrutinized the data looking for 176 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:24,319 answers what are all these objects do 177 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:27,919 any of them present a clear and present 178 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:30,560 danger scientists like astronomer Jay 179 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:32,519 Allen heinik were brought in to help the 180 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,519 Air Force connect the 181 00:08:32,519 --> 00:08:38,120 dots Dr J Allen heinik was the 182 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:41,039 consultant for the Air Force from 1947 183 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:43,839 all the way to 1969 the entire time they 184 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:46,519 were investigating this topic he was a 185 00:08:43,839 --> 00:08:50,440 skeptic himself because of that early 186 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:53,240 association with aliens and Little Green 187 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,440 Men so when they approached him he's 188 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:59,480 like I'll do this but I'm going to 189 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:01,920 easily be able to debunk this in no time 190 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:05,079 because this is just 191 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:07,800 silliness Project Blue Book ended in 192 00:09:05,079 --> 00:09:09,000 1969 when the Air Force released the 193 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,519 Condon 194 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,959 report after investigating more than 195 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:17,560 12,000 UFO sightings 196 00:09:14,959 --> 00:09:20,040 701 remained 197 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:22,279 unidentified when you've not explained 198 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,560 that much of your data as a scientist 199 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:26,320 that's not 200 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:29,680 acceptable and it wasn't acceptable for 201 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,680 heinik he' had a change of heart that 202 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:33,839 would last a 203 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:36,640 lifetime he started to see that there 204 00:09:33,839 --> 00:09:39,000 was Data there that indicates that not 205 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,440 all of these are easily solvable and 206 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,760 that they do deserve 207 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,720 investigation but he would stay away 208 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,440 from the alien side of things he would 209 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,920 try to focus on you know this is a 210 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:53,360 mystery we don't understand but it it's 211 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,760 just too difficult to do because the 212 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:59,560 media and the public just can't 213 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,040 disassociate those things the aliens in 214 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:03,440 the 215 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,959 UFOs this created an environment that 216 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,680 scientists and any serious person did 217 00:10:05,959 --> 00:10:10,959 not want to go near it so aliens were 218 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:13,560 right in there with ghosts the loch nest 219 00:10:10,959 --> 00:10:16,320 monster bigfoot it was all part of this 220 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:17,720 the unknown spooky stuff that probably 221 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,240 ain't 222 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:23,360 true because of this stigma today the 223 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:28,480 Department of Defense refers to these 224 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:31,360 unidentified flying objects UFOs as uaps 225 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:34,200 unidentified anomalous 226 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:37,440 phenomena they changed it from UFO to 227 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,959 UAP to try to reduce that stigma to try 228 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,440 to get away from that history that 229 00:10:39,959 --> 00:10:46,959 historical trigger that happens in our 230 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:49,079 brains the word UFO unfortunately has 231 00:10:46,959 --> 00:10:50,600 become a taboo word within the 232 00:10:49,079 --> 00:10:52,680 scientific 233 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,519 Community it's actually been a diss 234 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:59,360 surface to our community and our society 235 00:10:56,519 --> 00:11:02,920 for not trying to teach and communicate 236 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,920 about what actually is in the night 237 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:09,160 sky there's no shortage of things in the 238 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:12,760 night sky that can seem 239 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:15,880 strange some are natural like the colors 240 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,519 of the Northern Lights the beauty of a 241 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:21,279 meteor 242 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:24,480 shower planet Venus in the night 243 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:28,079 sky even clouds that form strange 244 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,079 saucer-like shapes 245 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:36,160 and plenty that are not so natural 246 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,040 wonders right now above my head are 247 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,839 planes you can hear helicopter flying 248 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,360 over there's probably some drones up 249 00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:43,160 there too and if you're in the right 250 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,800 place at the right time you can probably 251 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,240 even see some satellites up there cuz 252 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,440 there's a lot of stuff out there that 253 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,440 might not be as strange as you think it 254 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,440 is so weird that's not a plane the 255 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,760 number of things that are in our sky 256 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,920 today are thousands oh my 257 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,560 God now it's not moving at all it's 258 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:06,079 hovering right there we have weather 259 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:09,320 balloons 1,800 of them are launched 260 00:12:06,079 --> 00:12:11,959 daily around the world you can actually 261 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,079 see things in Earth's orbit from the 262 00:12:11,959 --> 00:12:16,240 ground you can see for instance the 263 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:17,760 International Space Station at night 264 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,160 flying 265 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:23,079 overhead and if you see a cluster of 266 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:25,040 Lights traveling across the night sky 267 00:12:23,079 --> 00:12:26,920 they're probably part of a satellite 268 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:30,079 system called 269 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:32,800 starlink when starlink launches a 60 270 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:35,160 satellite string people look at that and 271 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,160 go I don't know what that is and it 272 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,000 looks very weird and 273 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:42,199 concerning technology I think has 274 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:46,079 created much more clutter in the sky and 275 00:12:42,199 --> 00:12:49,440 an ability for us to misinterpret 276 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:51,399 things there's a lot in our sky and in 277 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,000 for studying UFOs of course you have to 278 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:58,760 know what's in the sky that is known 279 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,760 before you can identify what's unknown 280 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:04,040 that's especially difficult when it 281 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,440 comes to some of the strangest sightings 282 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:09,720 ever 283 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:12,440 made those videos taken by Navy 284 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,240 Pilots one of the most famous is 285 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,720 nicknamed the 286 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,480 gimbal we recorded the gimbal object 287 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,279 when we were down off the coast of 288 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Jacksonville Florida aboard the USS 289 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:28,360 Theodore Roosevelt in 290 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:30,839 2015 former fa18 pilot Ryan graves will 291 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,639 never forget what some pilots in his 292 00:13:30,839 --> 00:13:36,440 Squadron told him about their bizarre 293 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:36,440 UAP 294 00:13:36,519 --> 00:13:42,720 experience the event unfolded during a 295 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,720 night training 296 00:13:43,079 --> 00:13:48,320 Mission drone 297 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:50,360 bro they see something strange they've 298 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,000 been closing on it for a couple minutes 299 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,759 as they fly towards it to better 300 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,000 understand it it has to be a drone 301 00:13:53,759 --> 00:13:57,320 that's the logical thing no one's out 302 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,759 there saying it's UFOs or aliens or 303 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,680 whatever it's just an unknown thing and 304 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:05,759 what is it while their camera only 305 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:08,720 captures the image of one object their 306 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:10,959 radar tells a more complex story there's 307 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,519 a whole Fleet of them look on the 308 00:14:10,959 --> 00:14:16,279 sa my 309 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:18,639 gosh as they gather more information and 310 00:14:16,279 --> 00:14:22,040 they see a a whole Fleet of them on 311 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:23,399 their radar um it's harder to understand 312 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,759 what they're seeing and you can hear 313 00:14:23,399 --> 00:14:28,000 that in their voices they're all going 314 00:14:25,759 --> 00:14:29,959 against the wind the wind's 120 mes the 315 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,360 West 316 00:14:29,959 --> 00:14:36,880 dude then the object does something 317 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,880 downright bizarre well if 318 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,399 there's it's 319 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:44,079 rotating you see the object appears to 320 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:45,120 rotate then the video uh cuts out at 321 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:47,680 that 322 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:50,399 point you know so I don't know what the 323 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,720 gimbal is we still don't know what it 324 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:55,759 is there's no doubt many of the 325 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,120 recordings of UFOs made by Navy Pilots 326 00:14:55,759 --> 00:15:00,079 look very 327 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,040 strange to try to DEC code them it's 328 00:15:00,079 --> 00:15:05,040 crucial to understand the kinds of 329 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,880 sensors and cameras being used so the 330 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,040 vast majority of the evidence that's 331 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,279 excited the public imagination about 332 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,880 these videos comes in the form of 333 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:15,639 infrared 334 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:19,480 imagery imagery taken with an onboard 335 00:15:15,639 --> 00:15:22,120 infrared camera system called at Fleer 336 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,920 Sean Kirkpatrick former director of the 337 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,839 government's Department in charge of 338 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,880 investigating uaps what is it reflecting 339 00:15:26,839 --> 00:15:33,360 and engineer Josh seer explore how the 340 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:37,199 world looks in infrared light with the 341 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:38,519 help of tadine engineer DaNell Lago so 342 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:40,680 what you have here is you got the 343 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:42,600 visible on this side here it's a 4K 344 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,399 visible image and then the thermal on 345 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:48,040 this side on the right side of the 346 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:52,279 screen the camera is capturing visible 347 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:55,199 light light the human eye can see but on 348 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:57,319 the left side the Boston skyline looks 349 00:15:55,199 --> 00:16:00,079 radically different because this is a 350 00:15:57,319 --> 00:16:03,000 thermal image taken with an infrared 351 00:16:00,079 --> 00:16:05,240 camera that detects variations in 352 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,800 temperature the cars on the bridge are 353 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:10,279 emitting more heat than the background 354 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:14,519 the more heat an object emits The Wider 355 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:16,680 it appears the less the darker it gets 356 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:18,880 and can you switch that yes we can 357 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,519 invert it we can make everything that's 358 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:24,160 black hot and everything that's white 359 00:16:21,519 --> 00:16:25,279 cold and that's exactly what we see our 360 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,720 Pilots 361 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:31,319 doing Pilots when they see things they 362 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,440 will toggle back and forth so that they 363 00:16:31,319 --> 00:16:35,000 can try to get the best contrast to try 364 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,240 to figure out what they're looking at 365 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,639 and going so why don't we try and see if 366 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,920 we can see any 367 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:43,839 aircraft even on a hazy day like this 368 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,480 there's an aircraft there we go it 369 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:48,720 doesn't take long to spot one there is 370 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,000 an aircraft that you can't tell in the 371 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,680 infrared is an aircraft but in the 372 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:57,040 visible I sure can y exactly right and 373 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:59,440 now we don't we switch it to uh black is 374 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:02,839 Hut play the same game yeah play the 375 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,000 same game and see what it looks like AE 376 00:17:02,839 --> 00:17:06,880 there's a plane there's a plane there's 377 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:10,280 a plane there you 378 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:12,120 go I saw this just Little Dot tripping 379 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,959 through the field and I was only looking 380 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:16,839 at the infrared camera and Sean who was 381 00:17:14,959 --> 00:17:18,959 watching the visual camera next door 382 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:20,839 said there's an airplane and I looked 383 00:17:18,959 --> 00:17:22,400 over and this enormous aircraft was 384 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:25,199 moving through the 385 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:28,679 scene it's just a blob it's a little 386 00:17:25,199 --> 00:17:30,960 blob so that was an image of the engine 387 00:17:28,679 --> 00:17:33,440 yeah yeah that's basically all you saw 388 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,360 you didn't see the rest of the fuselage 389 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,160 the world looks very different in the 390 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:40,000 infrared versus the 391 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,640 visible exploring the deceptive nature 392 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,480 of infrared light provides scientists 393 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:48,559 with valuable Clues to why a plane could 394 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:51,520 take on an otherworldly 395 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:56,000 shape but it doesn't explain why the 396 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:58,440 gimbal seems to move in ways that defy 397 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,440 physics the gimbal video is one of the 398 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,080 most famous UFO videos and with good 399 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,360 reason I think cuz it looks like a 400 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,880 flying 401 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:10,640 saucer UFO investigator and conspiracy 402 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:16,120 debunker Mick West spent years analyzing 403 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:18,240 the gimbal video frame by frame clue by 404 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:20,360 clue the the interesting thing about the 405 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:23,640 gimbal video besides it being a flying 406 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:24,919 sorcerer is this rotation it does and 407 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,240 this was very 408 00:18:24,919 --> 00:18:29,960 puzzling it took a long time to figure 409 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:32,799 out what might be going on there 410 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Mick brings a unique set of skills to 411 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:37,440 this 412 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:40,520 challenge I used to program video games 413 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,200 many years ago I really enjoyed the 414 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:45,720 process of solving 415 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:47,440 puzzles and I use my 3D geometry and 416 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,000 trigonometry and algebra and all the 417 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,679 skills that I use in games programming 418 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,520 to analyze the 419 00:18:52,679 --> 00:18:57,880 UFOs Mick starts his investigation of 420 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:00,720 the gimbal by combing through publicly 421 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,720 available information 422 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,400 the plane that captured the gimbal video 423 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,400 is an 424 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:10,679 fa18 equipped with an infrared camera 425 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:14,080 mounted beneath the wing in a targeting 426 00:19:10,679 --> 00:19:16,679 pod next he builds a simulation of the 427 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:19,480 plane and the camera which is on a 428 00:19:16,679 --> 00:19:22,280 device called a 429 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,240 gimbal the gimbal enables the camera to 430 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:27,080 rotate as it tracks a 431 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:30,120 Target but the camera isn't the only 432 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:32,280 thing in motion 433 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:34,080 the Pilot's display reveals that the 434 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,000 object is also 435 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,440 moving from the left side of the plane 436 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,400 to the 437 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,679 right to track something going from left 438 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,240 to right which is what we're seeing here 439 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:48,559 the camera actually has to rotate and it 440 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,360 has to rotate a specific amount as it 441 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:54,919 traverses over from one side to the 442 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:58,159 other using the simulation he's created 443 00:19:54,919 --> 00:20:00,120 Mick makes a surprising discovery the 444 00:19:58,159 --> 00:20:01,960 amount that gimbal rotates and the time 445 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:05,440 it rotates is exactly what would be 446 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:08,480 needed for the camera to track this 447 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:11,480 object he's come up with a theory about 448 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:14,039 why the object appears to rotate and 449 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:17,039 sets up an experiment to demonstrate how 450 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:17,960 it works using his cell phone and his 451 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:20,919 desk 452 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:23,000 lamp take your cell phone and point the 453 00:20:20,919 --> 00:20:26,880 camera at a a bright light a single 454 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,919 light and then rotate your cell phone so 455 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,200 you've got a rotating camera but nothing 456 00:20:28,919 --> 00:20:34,559 is rotating except the artifacts of the 457 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,240 camera so if you have a glare like an 458 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:38,760 artifact of the camera when the camera 459 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,480 rotates the scene itself doesn't rotate 460 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,640 but the glare rotates and I think that's 461 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,760 what we're seeing in the gimbal 462 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,880 video it's possibly something like a 463 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,039 dist on plane something that's hot off 464 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,400 in the distance the heat of the engine 465 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:54,440 was kind of pointing towards the camera 466 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,960 and that kind of bloomed in the camera 467 00:20:54,440 --> 00:21:00,039 created this glare that was so big it 468 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:03,799 obscured the entire plane 469 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:05,640 but not everyone agrees with this Theory 470 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:08,600 I want to be clear that that's entirely 471 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:11,000 possible but I personally don't find 472 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,480 that particularly likely the reason for 473 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,400 that is strictly this Fleer system is 474 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,520 something that military personnel are 475 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,840 trained to use to identify adversary and 476 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,360 friendly 477 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,840 aircraft Pilots are well aware of how 478 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:27,600 the gimbal system works as well as the 479 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,080 nature of common camera artifacts like 480 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,480 glare I don't think this was a distant 481 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,600 plane I do believe it was an object that 482 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,799 was about 4 to 6 miles away from the 483 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,880 fighter aircraft not a distant jet at 30 484 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:41,679 nautical miles away if it was a distant 485 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,919 jet where would it come from why were we 486 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:46,400 not receiving any indications that it 487 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:50,400 was or was not part of our strike 488 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:53,760 group in 2021 the Department of Defense 489 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:57,039 formed Arrow the all domain anomaly 490 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:59,000 resolution office to investigate uaps 491 00:21:57,039 --> 00:22:03,720 like the gimbal 492 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:06,159 to date Arrow considers this case 493 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,760 unresolved so for us anything that 494 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:10,400 remains unidentified is a severe threat 495 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,480 that we should be paying attention to as 496 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,880 tactical aviators because that's exactly 497 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:18,320 what we're training to 498 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:22,159 identify the gimbal isn't the only UAP 499 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,799 that appears to defy the laws of 500 00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:26,799 physics 501 00:22:23,799 --> 00:22:29,480 2013 just after dark at the airport in 502 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:32,279 agadia Puerto Rico 503 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:36,880 US Customs and Border control captured 504 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:39,840 this video of an oddly behaving object 505 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:42,559 it looks like the object is traveling 506 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,960 quickly it looks like it's disappearing 507 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:47,159 into the 508 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,200 water and coming out of the water 509 00:22:47,159 --> 00:22:53,120 disappearing again coming 510 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:55,000 out and splitting into two and kind of 511 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:57,679 Disappearing 512 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,120 completely enthusiasts will point to 513 00:22:57,679 --> 00:23:03,799 that and say that is evidence of warp 514 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:05,840 drives or interdimensional drives and 515 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:07,600 that it's transm medium because it's 516 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,360 going in and out of the 517 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:14,400 water what do we see but could there be 518 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:16,480 another reason that's more down to earth 519 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:20,120 so let's do this as a controlled 520 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:22,720 experiment engineer Josh Seer enlists 521 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:26,520 the help of Shan Kirkpatrick former 522 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:29,960 director of Arrow to cook up an idea can 523 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:32,840 they recreate this dis appearing act in 524 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,360 the lab sounds like with a knife Spoon 525 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,799 and Fork well we already did that what 526 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:39,960 do you see and two surrogate UFOs what I 527 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:42,840 thought we'd try to use to do this is a 528 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,679 infrared sensor uh it just Clips on uh 529 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:51,559 like so they set it up on a 530 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:54,200 tripod take a look and see absolutely 531 00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:57,279 nothing we're not seeing anything at all 532 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,640 in these objects sea takes the spoon and 533 00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:02,880 fork along with one of the UAP 534 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,919 surrogates and puts them in a cooler for 535 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,640 just about what do you think Josh second 536 00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:11,559 10 seconds yeah it doesn't take long uh 537 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:14,720 I'd say 10 seconds it's more than enough 538 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:15,960 about 10 seconds later give or take all 539 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,120 right let's take them out and see what 540 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,720 they look 541 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:23,039 like that right back where they were and 542 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,279 what do we got well there's three 543 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:28,520 objects there wow that's pretty 544 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:31,279 Stark we can see the fork and spoon 545 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:34,360 along with one of the UFO 546 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:36,480 surrogates and I don't see the other two 547 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:39,480 cannot find the other two but they are 548 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:43,039 clearly there but over the next few 549 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:46,919 minutes they gradually disappear 550 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:48,679 again the question is why there is a 551 00:24:46,919 --> 00:24:50,440 tendency for objects that are at 552 00:24:48,679 --> 00:24:53,279 different temperatures when they're in 553 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,880 contact to eventually reach the same 554 00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:59,000 temperature as one another it's not a 555 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:01,360 magic trick for an object to show up in 556 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,440 infrared light it must be a different 557 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:07,320 temperature than objects it is in 558 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:10,559 contact with so when the fork and spoon 559 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:13,440 exchanged thermal energy with the table 560 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:16,760 thermal equilibrium is reached making 561 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:20,279 them invisible in infrared 562 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:23,080 light and that brings us back to the 563 00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:26,200 disappearing objects in the Puerto Rico 564 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,640 video which were also captured with an 565 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,760 infrared sensor 566 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:34,360 as the object becomes the same either 567 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,520 temperature or a Radiance as the 568 00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:39,240 background you won't be able to see it 569 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,039 it'll become nearly invisible and it 570 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,799 looks like it 571 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:46,600 disappears after months of carefully 572 00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:49,320 analyzing the video scientists think 573 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,080 they have an answer we think they're two 574 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,679 birds then when they get close to the 575 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,240 water the effect on the sensor kicks in 576 00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:57,320 where it's having a hard time 577 00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:00,840 distinguishing the contrast between the 578 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,320 background and the birds and they look 579 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,760 like they disappear and then they 580 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,720 reappear because the reflectance changes 581 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,320 and then they separate and then it looks 582 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,360 like they land in the 583 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,880 water this demo doesn't capture all the 584 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:16,000 conditions of this sighting but Shawn 585 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,039 and Josh believed that shifts in 586 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:22,520 temperature and reflection might explain 587 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:24,559 the apparent disappearing act I am 588 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,559 satisfied with that explanation because 589 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:28,880 that's how a scientist speaks with 590 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:30,760 respect to some phenomenal that's not 591 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,480 known we don't speak in 592 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:38,960 certainty so for instance if one were to 593 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,760 say that is either two birds flying over 594 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,320 the 595 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:48,480 ocean or it is a alien anti-gravity 596 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:53,080 technology exhibiting trans medium 597 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,080 characteristics I choose the bird 598 00:26:53,760 --> 00:27:00,240 explanation the sighting in Puerto Rico 599 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:03,399 might simply be two birds 600 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:06,399 and the gimbal video might be a distant 601 00:27:03,399 --> 00:27:09,080 plane but one of the most famous UFO 602 00:27:06,399 --> 00:27:10,000 sightings has been even more challenging 603 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,960 for 604 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,880 investigators I was an eyewitness to 605 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,840 what is considered one of the most 606 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:23,799 important UFO or UAP encounters and 607 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:25,799 that's the uh USS Nimitz tictac 608 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:28,880 encounter November 609 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:32,320 14th 2004 610 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:35,200 about 100 miles Southwest of San Diego 611 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:37,480 Alex Dietrich then a young Aviator in 612 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,559 training along with her commanding 613 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,640 officer David fraver a seasoned pilot 614 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:43,399 with more than a decade of flying under 615 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,480 his 616 00:27:43,399 --> 00:27:51,600 belt set out on a routine training 617 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:55,840 exercise it was clear blue skies calm 618 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,679 Waters when we get a call by this 619 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,840 controller kind of like an air traffic 620 00:27:57,679 --> 00:28:02,720 controller for our military exercise and 621 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,960 they say hey we need you to go check out 622 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:08,039 this contact over here the radar on one 623 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:12,039 of the ships in the strike group had 624 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:15,720 detected an unknown object and this is 625 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:17,279 2004 just a few years after 911 the hair 626 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:21,559 on the back of our neck stands up and we 627 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:23,840 go hm okay and we divert and we head 628 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,840 towards 629 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:31,880 it and we don't see anything 630 00:28:29,159 --> 00:28:35,640 initially but somebody sees a 631 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:39,679 disturbance in the water and this 632 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:45,399 strange thing is flying very fast but 633 00:28:39,679 --> 00:28:48,840 erratically over the this area of water 634 00:28:45,399 --> 00:28:51,679 it was off-white you know sort of a 635 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:54,000 white creamish color we didn't see a 636 00:28:51,679 --> 00:28:56,919 cockpit we didn't see windows and it 637 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,919 moved in ways that we didn't understand 638 00:28:56,919 --> 00:29:02,279 Dietrich and fraver returned to the 639 00:28:58,919 --> 00:29:05,559 nimts without taking video of the 640 00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:08,919 object so another aircraft went in 641 00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:12,600 Pursuit and captured 642 00:29:08,919 --> 00:29:16,559 this we call it affectionately a Tic Tac 643 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,559 because it looks like the little breath 644 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:23,279 mint Mick West decides to take on the 645 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:26,320 challenge to see if he can make sense of 646 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:28,120 the movement of the Tic Tac it's a very 647 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,880 blurry video I think he's actually out 648 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,320 of 649 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:35,240 focus and it's not actually doing 650 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:37,799 anything it's just basically flying away 651 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,240 and a bit to the left and more or less a 652 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,960 straightish line but the thing is David 653 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,919 fr's description is very 654 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:48,679 dramatic in fact when Commander David 655 00:29:44,919 --> 00:29:52,120 fraver testified before Congress in 2023 656 00:29:48,679 --> 00:29:55,279 he described an object that in his 18 657 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:58,120 years of flying traveled at speeds he'd 658 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:59,720 never seen before as we looked around he 659 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,960 saw a white Tic Tac object with a 660 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,320 longitudinal axis pointing North South 661 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,320 and moving very abruptly over the water 662 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,080 like a pingpong ball he talks about the 663 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,960 object kind of ping ponging around close 664 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,279 to the ocean and then doing this very 665 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,519 difficult synchronized movement up 666 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:18,720 towards the 667 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:21,640 top I'm going to tie it off over here 668 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,919 Mick conducts an experiment based solely 669 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:27,519 on the Pilot's eyewitness 670 00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:30,600 reports using his backyard swimming pool 671 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:32,320 and his version of the Tic Tac yeah I 672 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,360 made the Tic Tac out of a piece of wood 673 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,200 and some bits of white wire and painted 674 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,240 it 675 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:42,320 white he suspends his Tic Tac over the 676 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:45,720 swimming pool about 677 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,279 there climbs up a ladder with his phone 678 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,080 and starts 679 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:52,640 recording so what I set up with the pool 680 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,799 demo is just a good illustration of what 681 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,639 might have happened to try to figure out 682 00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:59,880 what's actually moving 683 00:30:56,639 --> 00:31:03,240 here is this object moving or is the 684 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,639 camera moving because we don't have um 685 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,639 any frame of reference we've just got 686 00:31:04,639 --> 00:31:09,159 the pool behind us you kind zoom in a 687 00:31:06,639 --> 00:31:10,840 little bit so all you see is the pool it 688 00:31:09,159 --> 00:31:13,159 really looks like the object is 689 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:16,720 moving even though it's 690 00:31:13,159 --> 00:31:19,720 not it's only the camera that's 691 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,760 moving it's a good illustration of 692 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:25,159 Parallax which as we know is one of the 693 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,600 big causes of optical 694 00:31:25,159 --> 00:31:29,200 illusions you may have experienced this 695 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,440 illusion I usion looking out the window 696 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,880 of a train the trees just outside the 697 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,919 window appear to be moving in relation 698 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:41,279 to the landscape in the background but 699 00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:44,600 the only thing that's actually moving is 700 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:47,279 you we're not reliable our eyes are not 701 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,039 reliable if you're going to court and 702 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,679 you're the accused and it's a eyewitness 703 00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:54,600 testimony that's going to you know the 704 00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:57,320 big evidence against you good 705 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,120 luck so when a military Aviator 706 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,720 especially someone like Commander fraver 707 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,919 with combat experience says that they 708 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,399 saw something in the sky that they can't 709 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:08,880 quite explain that operated in a way 710 00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:10,559 that seemed to contradict what they 711 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,679 understand the laws of physics would 712 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:16,000 dictate I tend to give those witness 713 00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:18,120 testimonies a great deal of credence 714 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,240 because these aviators are not just 715 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,159 highly trained pilots they're highly 716 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:27,000 trained combatants the pilot observation 717 00:32:23,159 --> 00:32:30,279 is I see something the data we need is 718 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,159 what the sensor is gathering and that's 719 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:34,840 the numbers we actually 720 00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:37,399 need in the case of the Tic Tac the 721 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,919 pilot did see something but some of the 722 00:32:37,399 --> 00:32:42,320 key technical questions hadn't been 723 00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:45,840 investigated at the time and trying to 724 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,480 investigate those now is not going to 725 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,159 give us a whole lot because there's 726 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:53,039 nothing to really examine the farther 727 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:56,279 back in time you go the less data there 728 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:58,960 is for every one of these cases and back 729 00:32:56,279 --> 00:33:03,039 in 2004 730 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:05,799 there was no data retention policy for 731 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,799 these kinds of 732 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,639 events according to Shan Kirkpatrick the 733 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,679 radar data from the incident no longer 734 00:33:11,639 --> 00:33:19,519 exists so we'll never know if it would 735 00:33:14,679 --> 00:33:23,360 support or rule out mix Parallax Theory 736 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:24,919 I don't know what we saw and I refus to 737 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,840 speculate because I think it would be 738 00:33:24,919 --> 00:33:30,240 irresponsible of me to say you know well 739 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:33,679 was definitely an adversary spying on us 740 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:36,519 or it was definitely an alien visiting 741 00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:39,840 from outer space uh because I don't 742 00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:42,720 know for Alex that was the end of the 743 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,120 Tic Tac story and then I went on with my 744 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,960 life my career and I didn't really think 745 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,440 about 746 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:53,279 it that is until 13 years later when the 747 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,960 New York Times published this article 748 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:58,760 with links to the Tic Tac and gimbal 749 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,960 videos when the New York Times released 750 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,639 this story it really gave the whole 751 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,919 topic a bit of credibility where a lot 752 00:34:03,639 --> 00:34:07,639 of people saw it as taboo and sort of 753 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:09,599 silly but if the US government has been 754 00:34:07,639 --> 00:34:12,119 investing tens of millions of dollars 755 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:14,240 into investigating these reports there 756 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:17,760 seems like there could be something to 757 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:20,639 it people are interested in this topic 758 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,440 of UFOs and Congress has begun to get 759 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,679 involved there's been a couple of 760 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,839 Congressional hearings calling expert 761 00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:28,359 witnesses to try and figure out what's 762 00:34:26,839 --> 00:34:31,679 going on here 763 00:34:28,359 --> 00:34:34,119 in your belief is this this flying Tic 764 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:36,919 Tac I mean is this is it capable of 765 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:39,240 being the product of any other Nation on 766 00:34:36,919 --> 00:34:40,960 the earth no I actually I think it 767 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:43,159 defies current Material Science and the 768 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,480 ability to develop that much propulsion 769 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,480 and I I know there's been some physicist 770 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,639 of calculations which is beyond anything 771 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,560 that we 772 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:53,720 have should we be concerned that some 773 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:57,280 UFOs are Advanced Technologies from out 774 00:34:53,720 --> 00:35:00,400 of this world or secret Technologies 775 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:03,560 developed by our 776 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:08,359 adversaries or could there be another 777 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:12,280 reason UFOs have remained so elusive for 778 00:35:08,359 --> 00:35:15,520 decades remember back in 1947 in Roswell 779 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,079 New Mexico when a Rancher found strange 780 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,680 debris in his 781 00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:20,520 pasture the Air Force said it was from a 782 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,680 weather 783 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:26,599 balloon but as it turns out it was part 784 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,599 of a classified US military program 785 00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:31,200 called PR 786 00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:33,480 Mogul the Air Force launched these 787 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,160 balloons and they had these sensors on 788 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,359 them where they can measure vibrations 789 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,640 in the air to be able to monitor Russian 790 00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:42,599 nuclear 791 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,640 testing the General in Fort Worth Texas 792 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:47,720 decided I'm going to cover up this 793 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,720 classified project and I'm going to show 794 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:51,240 the public that what we recovered was a 795 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:54,240 weather 796 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:57,119 balloon it would take half a century for 797 00:35:54,240 --> 00:36:00,640 the Air Force to admit exactly what had 798 00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:02,920 crashed in Roswell so there was a cover 799 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,599 up but it was a cover up of a classified 800 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:10,800 project not you know an alien 801 00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:12,960 spacecraft the secrecy led to the 802 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,839 conspiracy and certainly the Air Force 803 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:19,200 did not help themselves by being secret 804 00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:21,599 and dismissive of the 805 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,760 topic when it comes to government 806 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:26,079 coverups perhaps the most infamous is 807 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,440 Area 808 00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:32,079 51 Tales of alien spacecraft hidden 809 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:35,359 inside this remote Air Force Base about 810 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:37,400 83 Mi Northwest of Las Vegas have 811 00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:40,800 persisted for 812 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:43,119 decades it turns out the military has 813 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,839 been secretly developing cuttingedge 814 00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:48,640 technology here since the 815 00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:51,839 1950s but did not even acknowledge the 816 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:55,160 existence of the base until 817 00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:57,960 2013 there are lots of aircraft we know 818 00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:01,319 have been tested at Area 51 entirely in 819 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,960 secret at the time including the f117 820 00:37:01,319 --> 00:37:06,400 the 821 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:08,560 SR71 the B2 spirit and many more right 822 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,359 around the same time that B2 Spirit was 823 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,119 in development common sightings of UFOs 824 00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:15,839 around the United States tended to 825 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:17,680 transition away from the pie saucer 826 00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:20,680 shape we were familiar with in earlier 827 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:23,319 decades and toward a more triangular 828 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:26,760 shape this is a model of what people 829 00:37:23,319 --> 00:37:29,680 claim was the tr3b which is a legendary 830 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:33,359 aircraft that people allege was built 831 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:36,920 using reverse engineered alien 832 00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:39,640 technology by the 1990s rumors of 833 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:42,520 triangular-shaped spacecraft became so 834 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:45,920 widespread they became part of popular 835 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:48,200 culture Blockbusters like the xfiles 836 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,839 featured a triangular-shaped alien 837 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,839 spacecraft hovering over Agent Fox 838 00:37:50,839 --> 00:37:55,480 molders 839 00:37:52,839 --> 00:37:57,560 head I think the government should and 840 00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,440 does expect that the public is going to 841 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,599 fill in the blanks as they see fit as 842 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,640 long as people are talking about aliens 843 00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:06,720 operating out of Area 51 well then 844 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,640 they're not revealing anything about the 845 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:11,480 legitimate military platforms that are 846 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,400 being tested there it creates a bit of a 847 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,800 smoke 848 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:19,720 screen there's always Advanced 849 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:22,079 technological programs going on that are 850 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:24,599 on a need to no basis if you don't need 851 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:26,240 to know even if you are a member of the 852 00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:28,000 government or the military you're not 853 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,880 going to know and that's the way it 854 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,920 should 855 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:35,599 be this is all about spy versus spy or 856 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,160 military versus military to maintain 857 00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:39,640 technical 858 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,359 superiority we don't want other people 859 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,119 to learn what we're building where we 860 00:38:42,359 --> 00:38:47,160 might employ it because then they can 861 00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:49,200 defeat it there are reasons to do that 862 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,560 none of it is 863 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,560 alien none of 864 00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:58,640 it I think we're in an era where 865 00:38:55,240 --> 00:39:00,280 conspiracy theories are popular 866 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,000 is this another 867 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,119 one when it comes to sightings by 868 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,400 military pilots and the public how can 869 00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:10,800 science help separate unfounded 870 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:15,000 conspiracy theories from 871 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,680 reality fact from fiction from the very 872 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,680 days that Galileo first lifted his 873 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,920 telescope to the sky and made 874 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,720 measurements of the moons going around 875 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,119 Jupiter everybody else could then 876 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:28,200 reproduce those measurements and go oh 877 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:30,480 yeah he's right and that confirmation 878 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,160 is what has made the scientific method 879 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,680 so powerful over the last 400 years the 880 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,800 thing we need is 881 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:43,400 data and we need real data and we don't 882 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:45,440 have it we at Nasa are a in 2022 NASA 883 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,280 brought together a group of experts to 884 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,359 explore ways to collect that data NASA 885 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,119 should lead the scientific discourse we 886 00:39:50,359 --> 00:39:55,319 need to elevate this 887 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:58,480 conversation the NASA UAP panel was 888 00:39:55,319 --> 00:40:01,000 formed to bring that sence perspective 889 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,760 into this that analysis has not been 890 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,359 done a lot of people argue uh that we 891 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,440 have data but the vast majority of that 892 00:40:06,359 --> 00:40:11,520 data is anecdotal and that's just not 893 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,880 going to cut it the panel recommended 894 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,240 several ways to collect more data 895 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,359 including repurposing existing 896 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:20,960 technology like the National Weather 897 00:40:18,359 --> 00:40:23,680 Services radar system called 898 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:26,800 Nexrad radar stations that are found 899 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,920 throughout the US so those same sensors 900 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,240 should be able able to see if an object 901 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,760 comes whizzing through at an 902 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,640 extraordinary velocity it should be able 903 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,839 to pick out that type of thing that's 904 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:40,040 just one example of the type of networks 905 00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:40,040 that we could repurpose for UAP 906 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:46,720 research astronomer AI lobe is taking a 907 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:50,079 different approach collecting more data 908 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:51,839 in a novel way we just constructed an 909 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:54,119 observatory at Harvard 910 00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:56,480 University we are monitoring objects 911 00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,640 that fly overhead and trying to make 912 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,480 sense with them 913 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,880 this collection of instruments is part 914 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:07,400 of Harvard's Galileo project the Galileo 915 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:10,040 project is developing several sites that 916 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:13,800 are spread across a geographical region 917 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:18,720 where each site has an array of 918 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:22,359 sensors Optical cameras infrared images 919 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:24,720 there's audio from infrasound to 920 00:41:22,359 --> 00:41:27,880 Ultrasound there's 921 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:30,560 radar it's a wide array of instrument 922 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,839 to basically look at the sky all the 923 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,960 time to to see if you find any 924 00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:39,839 anomalies some instruments have 925 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:42,800 otherworldly names like this one called 926 00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:45,640 doll after the cyborg aliens featured in 927 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,920 the do Who 928 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:51,880 series inside doll there are eight 929 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:54,000 infrared cameras behind the window there 930 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,119 is a camera they 931 00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:01,079 overlap and so they get a full picture 932 00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:03,760 of of the entire sky at all times in the 933 00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:07,160 infrared when something of interest is 934 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:10,079 identified by the main set of cameras we 935 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:12,240 zoom on it in the sky and this is the 936 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,040 camera that can move around and look at 937 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:17,640 the object of Interest automatically 938 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,680 based on the computer system that we 939 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,280 develop you can imagine if you have a 940 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,400 camera pointing overhead you're going to 941 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,240 see a lot of things that are 942 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,920 identifiable so they use machine 943 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,960 learning what people call artificial 944 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,200 intelligence that can recognize the 945 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:33,319 knowes recognize the birds the airplanes 946 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,319 the balloons leaves all the known things 947 00:42:33,319 --> 00:42:37,119 and sort of reject those filter them out 948 00:42:35,319 --> 00:42:38,559 and then what you're left with is the 949 00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:40,720 anomalies you're left with things that 950 00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:42,040 you cannot understand the things you 951 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:46,079 can't 952 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:48,440 identify and as we speak right now we 953 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:51,440 are being 954 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,960 recorded so far we have been operating 955 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,640 this Observatory for several months and 956 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,680 we saw hundreds of thousands of objects 957 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:03,040 in the sky 958 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:05,920 none of them appears to be 959 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,200 anomalous but even if one in a million 960 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,520 came from outside of this Earth that 961 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,400 would be big news to humanity and will 962 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,720 change our future and that's what drives 963 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,720 my 964 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,440 science one way or another the more data 965 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,680 were able to bring into this 966 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,400 conversation the more we're going to be 967 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,359 able to get to the 968 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:30,680 truth Ryan Graves is trying to collect 969 00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:33,559 data from a different Source his fellow 970 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:36,880 Pilots Military and 971 00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:39,400 Commercial but there's a problem they're 972 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,240 hesitant to share their experiences 973 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,280 because of the taboo surrounding 974 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:46,040 UFOs they don't feel comfortable 975 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,359 reporting because of that fear that 976 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,240 there could be professional 977 00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:52,599 repercussions at their employer social 978 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:54,680 repercussions with their peers at the 979 00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:56,440 airline because the conversation 980 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,800 immediately jumps to well there's no 981 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,440 proof there's actually terestrial you 982 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,480 couldn't travel across the universe to 983 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,240 get here and it's like whoa whoa whoa 984 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,079 Pilots are seeing things that are in the 985 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:07,119 sky that they don't understand what they 986 00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:09,440 are and are posing safety risk that's 987 00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:11,440 where the conversation needs to stop and 988 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,079 hey is this not only an aviation safety 989 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,480 risk but is this a potential National 990 00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,480 Security 991 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:24,240 risk so I was asking Pilots whether they 992 00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:28,200 have encountered the uip and uh they 993 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:31,040 were very Cy about it a ation and space 994 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,800 psychologist IA Whitley is working with 995 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,960 Ryan conducting research to find out if 996 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,960 this reluctance to talk about UAP 997 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:41,960 sightings also impacts a pilot's ability 998 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,839 to focus on the job creating a safety 999 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,200 issue when the pilot seeing something I 1000 00:44:44,839 --> 00:44:48,480 want to make sure that they're 1001 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,839 comfortable speaking about it because it 1002 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,800 then occupies their capacity and focus 1003 00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:56,040 and attention and takes them away from 1004 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,480 actually flying if you're trying to 1005 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:01,200 ignore something on unidentified in a 1006 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,520 distance your mind is still thinking I'm 1007 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,880 not thinking about it I'm not thinking 1008 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,400 about it I'm not thinking about it I'm 1009 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,520 not thinking about it and now they don't 1010 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:12,200 see what they need to be seeing you were 1011 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:13,760 just asking about uh U visual views yes 1012 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,880 and what attracts your attention 1013 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,960 movement is what attracts your 1014 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,920 attention commercial pilots have been 1015 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,680 seeing objects that have been causing 1016 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,599 them some serious 1017 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,559 consternation I don't think anyone would 1018 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:27,520 like their Pilot Flying their aircraft 1019 00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:29,880 to have an exential crisis as they're 1020 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,359 flying their aircraft um and coming in 1021 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,040 for a 1022 00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:35,839 landing the more cases we can explain 1023 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,680 the less distraction there's going to be 1024 00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:40,359 and if there is actually any real threat 1025 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:43,000 or any real issue out there then we can 1026 00:45:40,359 --> 00:45:45,559 focus in on that without all this extra 1027 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,880 noise and there's another way we can 1028 00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:49,200 collect more data With a Little Help 1029 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,480 from the 1030 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,640 public it would seem like they're going 1031 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:57,200 sideways in the Lower East Side of 1032 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:59,839 Manhattan at Enigma Labs a staff of soft 1033 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,160 designers and UFO enthusiasts are 1034 00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:05,040 developing a first ofit kind crowd 1035 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,520 sourcing app the goal is really to bring 1036 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,160 people together to share their uip 1037 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,280 experiences and their sightings you know 1038 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,280 if people don't have a place to talk 1039 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,119 about this or report what they're seeing 1040 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,720 I think they can feel really lonely and 1041 00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:20,440 and feel very isolated when in reality 1042 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:21,880 this is a huge community of people who 1043 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,400 should be able to come somewhere and 1044 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,880 talk about what they're 1045 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,599 seeing so we're collecting sighting 1046 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:31,319 reports we get a lot of starlink and 1047 00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:33,079 SpaceX rocket videos but at the same 1048 00:46:31,319 --> 00:46:35,319 time people are submitting things that 1049 00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:37,359 cannot be explained this time I've got 1050 00:46:35,319 --> 00:46:40,119 one that I can't figure out maybe you 1051 00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:42,599 can help me out this is really cool just 1052 00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:43,960 this light comes floating in and then it 1053 00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:47,400 hover but 1054 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:49,280 wait why why does this came slowly right 1055 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,960 yeah those are fireworks Isaac right 1056 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,400 those are probably fireworks probably 1057 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:57,400 smoke rising up and smoke rising up mhm 1058 00:46:54,400 --> 00:47:00,800 but in just a second it will get 1059 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,520 weirder what isn't that weird brighter 1060 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:06,920 it's get brighter yeah it keeps getting 1061 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:08,680 brighter and it's a broad beam of light 1062 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,359 so it's not a star so what do you think 1063 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,200 about maybe drone but I mean look how 1064 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:15,480 still it is it doesn't have blinking 1065 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,800 lights I mean it doesn't look like a 1066 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:23,200 drone so let's fast forward a 1067 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:27,200 little ohing rising up yeah so it kind 1068 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:29,960 of gets the camera's not M it rises up 1069 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,680 back this is a good one I don't know I 1070 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,680 don't know what that 1071 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:37,359 is apps like this provide the public 1072 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,680 with a place to share their sightings 1073 00:47:37,359 --> 00:47:43,040 but could one day be a source of data 1074 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:45,400 for scientists to study we're not 1075 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:48,079 relying just on did you see something 1076 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,359 we're asking your cell phone to make a 1077 00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:52,480 measurement it's going to record the 1078 00:47:50,359 --> 00:47:54,839 position of the phone on the planet 1079 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,160 because we all have GPS's in it and 1080 00:47:54,839 --> 00:47:57,520 because it has little compass in it it 1081 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,240 will also tell us what direction we're 1082 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:03,079 looking at so we can actually do 1083 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:05,000 scientific experiments with actual data 1084 00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:07,640 because our modern cell phones are so 1085 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,119 good now at recording 1086 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,559 numbers the more data the better the 1087 00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:14,319 more sightings the more eyes we get on 1088 00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:17,119 on something that's truly 1089 00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:21,040 anomalous the closer we get to maybe 1090 00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:21,040 answering that question what is 1091 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,839 it Alex Dietrich has learned from 1092 00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:31,599 firsthand experience that for many 1093 00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:34,680 people data alone is not enough the 1094 00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:39,040 topic is so charged because there are so 1095 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:40,400 many conspiracies and it's such a um you 1096 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,440 know it does something to people's 1097 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:47,000 brains when you say UFO at the 1098 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:50,200 University of Colorado Boulder Alex is 1099 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,880 trying to change that so this is the 1100 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,240 helmet that I was wearing uh you're 1101 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,920 welcome to try to put using her 1102 00:48:54,240 --> 00:49:00,640 experience as a way to teach students 1103 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,400 how to separate fact from fiction what 1104 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:05,720 is it about 1105 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:08,240 UFOs what do we know and how do we know 1106 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:09,880 it what I find is that some of my 1107 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:13,079 students have been going down those 1108 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:15,160 Reddit thread rabbit holes working 1109 00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:18,280 themselves up into a lather with 1110 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:20,440 salacious headlines for content and 1111 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,319 clickbait if you're reading an article 1112 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,960 about UFOs what do we look for when we 1113 00:49:23,319 --> 00:49:29,160 are looking at our sources I hope they 1114 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:31,920 will be more Discerning when they 1115 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,000 consume media going forward that they 1116 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,440 will question where the information that 1117 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,760 they're getting comes from because I 1118 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:43,480 want to advocate for us to all take a 1119 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:45,520 deep breath and to come to this subject 1120 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,880 with a lens of critical thinking 1121 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:53,200 critical thinking people let's all let's 1122 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,200 all apply critical 1123 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,960 thinking and that brings us back to the 1124 00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:03,880 million 1125 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:06,319 questions could this be extraterrestrial 1126 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:10,000 technology what would it take for a 1127 00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:11,839 spacecraft to come from a distant World 1128 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,880 a very important question that we need 1129 00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:16,799 to be asking today when investigating 1130 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:19,359 UAP is whether or not even if there are 1131 00:50:16,799 --> 00:50:22,040 Advanced alien civilizations out there 1132 00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:27,480 if they have the means to actually reach 1133 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:30,599 us 3 2 1 consider this one of the 1134 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:34,240 fastest spacecrafts ever launched NASA's 1135 00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:38,920 New Horizons took 9 years and 5 months 1136 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:41,319 to reach Pluto 3 billion miles away 1137 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:44,040 getting to the closest star system with 1138 00:50:41,319 --> 00:50:47,160 a planet that might Harbor life would 1139 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,880 take that tiny spacecraft a whopping 1140 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,960 880,000 1141 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:54,680 years the universe is so unfathomably 1142 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:57,680 large there's 100 billion stars in our 1143 00:50:54,680 --> 00:51:00,000 Milky Way and there's a hundred billion 1144 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:03,040 galaxies in the observable universe 1145 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:07,040 that's 10 to the 22 one with 22 zeros on 1146 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:11,799 it with a number of stars and the 1147 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:14,640 distances between stars is incredibly 1148 00:51:11,799 --> 00:51:16,960 vast I have not seen any evidence that 1149 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,880 we have been visited I think it's still 1150 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,680 worth looking for evidence because we 1151 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:25,839 can't conclusively demonstrate that we 1152 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:28,119 have not been visited half of the time 1153 00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:30,319 scale the galaxy has has existed there 1154 00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:32,359 was no planet Earth so that's plenty of 1155 00:51:30,319 --> 00:51:34,359 time for life to have evolved and 1156 00:51:32,359 --> 00:51:35,440 technological life to have developed on 1157 00:51:34,359 --> 00:51:38,799 another 1158 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,920 planet the answer is get more data we 1159 00:51:38,799 --> 00:51:42,160 need much much more data and the way 1160 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,799 you're going to get more data is that 1161 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:49,000 you're going to have more eyes on the 1162 00:51:45,799 --> 00:51:52,559 sky UFOs have been a part of our culture 1163 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:55,480 for decades they've been the subject of 1164 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:58,200 curiosity but rarely the subject of 1165 00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:01,040 serious scient C ific 1166 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:03,400 investigation but that is 1167 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,799 changing I think it's critical to be 1168 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,280 open-minded don't be dismissive and 1169 00:52:05,799 --> 00:52:09,480 search for the data like any good 1170 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,400 scientist what I think is important is 1171 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,799 that we are collecting more than just 1172 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,240 the eyewitness accounts but that we also 1173 00:52:13,799 --> 00:52:19,440 have the right Hardware in place for 1174 00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:23,000 things that will be seen today tomorrow 1175 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:26,530 so that we don't sit here and bicker 1176 00:52:23,000 --> 00:53:42,769 about about what happened 20 years ago 1177 00:52:26,530 --> 00:53:42,769 [Music] 1178 00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:52,620 [Music] 81852

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