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This programme contains
strong language from the outset.
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Selection for the SAS
is cloaked in secrecy.
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No-one knows what it is we do.
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We're the thinking soldier.
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And the truth about what it takes...
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might surprise you.
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GUNSHOTS
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An elite team of ex-special
forces soldiers
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is putting 30 civilians through the
key stages of selection...
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At the end of the day, would I have
this guy next to me in a war zone?
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Fight, fight, fight!
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..each task taken from
the real process.
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Let's get the dogs out.
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DOGS BARK
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Physical fitness is no more than
a starting point.
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The true test is of the mind...
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I fear...inadequacy.
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The only thing that I'm really
afraid of is rejection.
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I don't really believe
that there's such a thing
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as a completely weak person
or a completely strong person.
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..as each recruit is stripped
back to their core.
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They might be strong characters...
Fully submerged! Under!
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Once we start unchipping
their armour,
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we'll find out exactly who they are.
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Feel like a boy in a man's world.
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No other test asks as much...
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Well done.
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..or means as much... Still alive!
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..to the few who make it through.
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I know this works.
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Show me that this works.
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HE GROWLS
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'When I was in Iraq...'
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we were trying to
operate covertly on a mission
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and we were compromised...
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'..captured, taken in,
stripped, naked...'
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Beaten, blindfolded,
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mock executions...
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and they attempted to take us
away to execute us.
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Fortunately, we were
rescued at the 11th hour.
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And I guess had I not been
subjected to...
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at least some of those
pressures on selection,
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probably wouldn't have reacted
as well...
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as I think I did
in that situation.
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The selection process
has reached its final stage.
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Out of 30 recruits,
only five have made it this far.
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And they are about to undergo
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the most psychologically
demanding 24 hours.
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For the past seven days,
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Ryan...
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Is that the best you have?
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ECHO OF DOG BARKING
..Freddie...
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John...
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Lose the cockiness.
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..Ollie...
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Patch it up!
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..and Anthony...
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Get some balls about you.
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..have been pushed to their physical
and mental limits.
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It culminated yesterday
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with an exercise replicating
a mission behind enemy lines.
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Downhill, downhill.
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Let's get the dogs out.
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Being hunted day and night with no
sleep and limited rations.
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I feel like I'm going to collapse.
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GUNSHOT
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Fucking get out!
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Before being captured together
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and brought straight
in for interrogation.
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But now each recruit is on their own.
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To pass this stage,
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they'll have to
withstand 24 hours of interrogation
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without losing composure, or
revealing details of their mission.
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Even though you know that
you're on a selection process
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and you think, what's the worst
they can do?
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It's so cleverly done.
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And you're so mentally fatigued,
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your mind doesn't even know
what it's doing.
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There are strict rules governing
the interrogation phase of selection.
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The recruits are monitored
round the clock
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by a team of psychologists
and doctors.
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Before it begins,
they're given a medical check.
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Recruit 11, do you recognise me?
Yes, Doc.
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I'm a medical doctor. I cannot
be impersonated at any time.
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Are you fit and well enough to
continue? Yes, Doctor.
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I like to push myself
outside my comfort zone
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and I think that when you
get to that...
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point where you're just outside
your comfort zone,
that's when you'll grow.
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Recruit number three,
do you recognise me?
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Yes.
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I push...
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out of both the desire for glory
and the fear of failure.
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Are you fit
and well enough to continue? Yes.
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Glory's great, but...
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the idea of being a failure is quite
harrowing for me, I think.
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I'm fit and well enough
to continue.
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I have had quite a nice,
I'd say comfortable life,
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compared to most guys
on that course.
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'How I react to the various...
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'situations which
I'm uncomfortable with.
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and how I deal with those is
probably the most important...
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part of the getting through
the selection week.
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Recruit 27, do you recognise me?
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Do you recognise who I am?
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I think so.
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'As a dancer, you're constantly
looking in a mirror,
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'looking for imperfections'
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and the best way to actually improve
is to see...
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focus on your imperfections
and work on them.
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So, the nature of that can sometimes
bleed into...
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all other areas of your life.
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Do you feel that you are fit
and well enough to continue?
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I do.
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Recruit eight,
do you recognise me?
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I have a lot of confidence, but...
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it doesn't mask my insecurities.
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Recruit eight,
do you recognise me?
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No, I like to be better than
the average man.
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If I'm not, then that confidence
would go, I guess.
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Are you fit
and well enough to continue?
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Is that a yes?
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The recruits now face
a series of interrogations.
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It's overseen by one man,
known as the umpire.
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He cannot be identified
for security reasons.
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I am the umpire for this phase. OK?
Very important you understand this.
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I cannot be impersonated.
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You see this pretty face again,
that's the lot, that's it.
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If you want to withdraw,
if you want to see the doctor,
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any issues you've got, you raise
your hand ask for what?
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Raise your hand and ask
for what? The umpire.
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The umpire.
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Is that clear? Understood.
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The umpire controls
a team of specialist interrogators.
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What I would not like to see is two
individuals in the room. Mm.
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Play off each other.
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They've a combined experience of
30 years working in combat zones
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and on SAS selection.
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We're looking for the person
who doesn't stand out,
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who doesn't have an extreme
reaction.
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Being able to adapt mentally
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and have the, the flexibility
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to respond to the environments
as they change.
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Their interrogation is based
on techniques used by enemy forces
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and begins with what's
known as 'harshing.'
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Tell me what your fucking name is!
Tell me what your fucking name is!
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It's a short, sharp
shock from the interrogation team,
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designed to keep the
recruits on edge.
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Tell me what your fucking name is!
Tell me what your fucking name is!
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Ryan. Ryan what?! Ryan what?!
What are you doing here?
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What are you... Tell me
who you're fucking with!
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DAVID: When people are
captured, violence has been used.
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Lots of noise, lots of aggression,
lots of adrenaline.
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He doesn't know what's going
to happen to him
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and if you can keep that mental
state going for as long as possible,
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then they are more susceptible
to tell you what's going on.
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Ryan Roddy, he acted all confused,
disorientated.
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"I don't know why I'm here." Yeah.
And he gave his name,
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but he gave it out over about
a two or three minute period.
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He looked in good nick.
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Recruits should give away
as little information as possible,
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without antagonising
the interrogators by saying nothing.
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Who the fuck are you?!
What's your name?!
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Look at me! Look at me!
What's your name? Anthony.
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Anthony what?! Anthony
fucking what?! Selwyn.
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Anthony fucking Selwyn?!
Who are you with? Who are you with?
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Oli, Oli, Oli. Oli.
We met on Facebook.
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Can't think when you're... Shut up!
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DAVID: Anthony Selwyn
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opened up pretty quickly and opened
loads of doors, like I said,
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and the doors got bigger and
bigger and bigger. Who are you
with? I'm with Oli and Ryan.
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They haven't thought through
any of the answers.
Open your fucking eyes!
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What's your name?
I'm fucking talking to you. Open
your fucking eyes and look at me!
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Are you going to fucking
sit there, fucking crying?
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INDISTINCT SHOUTING
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Guard!
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This is the one who tried to tough
it out, screwed his eyes up tight.
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His feet were going
ten to the dozen.
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I think he was fragile to the point
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that he wanted the big scary
man to go away.
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If you had a...a quick draw,
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whose hands are going to go up,
my money's on him. Mm.
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'I was quite a poorly child, so...
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'I was treated slightly different
to my other siblings.'
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I was more like
the mollycoddled little baby boy.
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So, my mum and I would come
home from school
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and where I had asthma,
it drained all my energy.
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I would come home and I'd just
be dead, I'd be so tired
and devastated
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and I would just cuddle my mum,
suck my thumb, roll...cuddle up
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and just go to sleep...
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all night until the morning.
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So, I was really, really poorly
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and then I kind of grew up
a little bit, started training,
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a bit more, exercising at school
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and it kind of died off
a little bit, you know?
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Between each stage
of the interrogation,
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the recruits are detained in a cell
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and put in stress positions
by the directing staff.
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They can be hooded in the cell
for hours on end.
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At first, when you get into that
position it doesn't hurt
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and when you're trying to hold it
for longer and longer and longer,
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you can feel the aches and pains.
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Just want to finish by moving
position, but you can't
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and obviously you start feeling
fatigued and it plays on your mind.
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It's a very clever
way of breaking you down.
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LOUD TECHNO MUSIC
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At random intervals, the recruits
are subjected to repetitive music
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to maintain a state
of intense fatigue.
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LOUD MUSIC CONTINUES
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DOOR SLAMS
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MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND
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LOUD MUSIC CONTINUES
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Loud. Very, you know,
a surreal feeling.
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You know, you've got that constant
noise, total sleep deprivation.
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You're hallucinating, you don't
really know what's going on.
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You really start to think,
why am I doing this to myself?
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It's a real fucking mind fuck.
It fucks your head big-time.
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After three hours of stress
positions,
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recruit number 27, professional
dancer, Anthony, quits.
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Fucking hell.
ANTHONY SIGHS
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That was so fucking hard.
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Anthony...
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I take my hat off to you.
I've give you a fucking hard time!
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Do you know what?
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On selection,
this was the hardest part for me.
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It drove me absolutely insane.
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I think I was in there
for about 42 hours in the end.
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I was praying,
every time someone came in the room,
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you'd take me away
and start shouting at me.
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Mm. Couldn't...
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Couldn't lie there. Nah... Still.
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Listen, everyone's got
a breaking point, trust me
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and I knew that you could push
yourself, cos I pushed you.
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Yeah, the fact you got me angry.
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It's good, I'm quite powerful
when I'm angry.
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It's something I've discovered
on this course, aggression is...
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Controlled aggression.
Controlled aggression is useful.
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And you've got a lot of that.
Yeah. Yeah.
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I really enjoy challenging myself.
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'I think...once you've
stretched your mind, expanded it,
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'you can't really go back to
how it was before.'
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LADDER CLATTERS
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Listening to the interrogation,
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it does feel like there is the
ability there to lose your mind
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a little bit.
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It's the fear of not being
able to pay attention
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and worry that you might say
something and then realise
247
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suddenly that you said something
you shouldn't have said.
248
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I fucking lost it, yeah.
249
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One by one, the remaining four
recruits are taken to be interrogated
250
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on who they are and what they were
doing together on the hills.
251
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Before they went on their mission
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they were given a briefing
by the directing staff.
253
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If you get captured, do not
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give away information that's
critical to the mission.
255
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So, who you have with you,
where you're going, etc, etc.
256
00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,240
Do not say, "yes or no".
257
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If you're asked for personal
information be careful of what
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you give.
259
00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,200
The recruits had to come up with
a convincing cover story as to
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why they were on the hills.
261
00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,960
In the real world, saying
nothing could get you killed.
262
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,080
Just say we're hobbyists.
We're just hiking hobbyists.
263
00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,960
Do you reckon we should talk about
that, how we know each other?
264
00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,920
How we know each other? Say we met
online. Online, yeah. Say Facebook.
265
00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,960
Neutral search,
nice and laidback. Yeah.
266
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,160
Let's not get too
direct about anything.
267
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,480
If they're going to chat to you
freely, let them chat on.
268
00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,440
The interrogators start what
they call "processing".
269
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The DS and umpire observe everything,
judging the recruits' performance.
270
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,440
What's your name, love?
John Calloway. John.
271
00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,000
That looks a bit sore on here, it's
weeping a bit. Yeah, I know, yeah.
272
00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,400
Can you just turn around for me,
so I can just have a look?
273
00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,400
He's the one that will fall for the
old charm, you know what I mean?
274
00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,560
That's why we've got him in now.
275
00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,680
You were with your buddy,
what was your buddy's name?
276
00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,800
Today? Yeah.
Freddie.
277
00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,000
Is that Mr Iron?
Yes, Ma'am. Yeah.
278
00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,600
So, what were you up to
with Freddie today, then?
279
00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,640
A very failed attempt at a run
around the woods. Right.
280
00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,960
You've got some abrasions on your
back. Did they come from this
281
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,840
rucksack thing you've been carrying?
282
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,000
I don't know what that rucksack is.
283
00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,680
It's not yours, then?
284
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,960
I've never seen that
rucksack in my life.
285
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,400
Is this the same as the stuff
Freddie had as well? Same kit?
286
00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,880
N... What was he carrying?
287
00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,760
Rucksack. Rucksack?
Oh, right, OK.
288
00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,480
I think it's human nature -
is to try
289
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,240
and pull yourself out of the
spotlight and if you can put
290
00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,360
the spotlight on somebody else
it's not a very team thing to do,
291
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,560
especially when it's
totally unwarranted
292
00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,800
and that's something
you've got to live with.
293
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,240
Is he as clueless
as he bloody looks?
294
00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,760
He is, like, gone insane
at the minute.
295
00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,120
John, my old friend,
she is twisting
296
00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,280
you round her little finger.
297
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,800
So, what were you doing with
Freddie, then, today?
298
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,200
You were in the woods? He got lost.
299
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,840
He couldn't read the map.
I'm not very good at reading maps.
300
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,360
Did you have a map? I don't know.
301
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,040
He had a map in his pocket. Oh, you
did, right. You did have a map. OK.
302
00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,480
Right, OK.
303
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,440
Where did you grow up?
I grew up in Bracknell. Bracknell?
304
00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,840
So, do you and Freddie know each
other from school as well?
305
00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,360
Yeah. Which school
did you go to, then?
306
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,080
I went to Garth.
Yeah, so he went to Garth? Yeah.
307
00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:41,160
John's lie contradicts the
group's Facebook cover story
308
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,880
and could create problems
for him and Freddie.
309
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,600
He sounds quite well educated,
is that a public school
310
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,280
or is it a comprehensive or what?
311
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,800
No, it's just normal.
Just a normal school? Yeah.
312
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,480
He's starting to realise a bit
now, he's starting to think.
313
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,280
He knows he's dropped the ball,
knows he's dropped the ball.
314
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,160
So, he's just a bit plumier
than you, then? A little bit.
315
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,360
SHE LAUGHS
316
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,160
Next to be processed,
24-year-old Ollie.
317
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,720
You've not used them, have you?
318
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,240
They're pretty clean.
319
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,880
What's that?
Zink-oxide tape.
320
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,040
Do you need this for your feet now?
321
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,920
I don't need that for my feet.
322
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,920
Have you noticed what Ollie's doing?
323
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,360
So, he's answering every
question with a statement.
324
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,320
She said, "Do you need the tape?"
325
00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:35,720
He doesn't say no, doesn't yes and
he's done that for every question.
326
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,480
In a real life scenario,
saying yes or no is high risk,
327
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,440
as captives may be recorded and their
words manipulated by the enemy.
328
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,120
Have we missed anything off there?
329
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,240
I don't think you've missed anything
off there. Shall we go through it,
330
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,240
as we put them into the bag?
331
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,840
That's not necessary,
honestly. Really?
332
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,280
Is this all yours?
It's all mine, yeah.
333
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,360
He just won't like that, he went...
334
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,960
Did you see his face when he
said "yeah", he went "ooh"!
335
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,960
When not being interrogated
the recruits face unknown
336
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,760
periods of time in the cell.
337
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,400
Being blindfolded for a long
period of time will take them
338
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,600
to places that they're
not expecting.
339
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,400
You are living entirely
inside your own head.
340
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,400
Now, for some people that's fine
341
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,640
and for some people it's very
uncomfortable and tricky.
342
00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:44,160
If you'd met me at 18 you wouldn't
think I was an angry man.
343
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,840
I would have been polite and
affable like I am all the time
344
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,360
but, you know, behind that exterior
was a lot of pain and torment.
345
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,120
The aggression came from, I guess,
346
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,520
it's got something to do with
my mum passing away, I think.
347
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,760
You know, growing up,
I wasn't really an aggressive kid.
348
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,720
On the fourth anniversary
of her death, I went out,
349
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,000
I was 18 and I got this overwhelming
emotion that I'd never felt before
350
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,560
and I left friends,
my friends didn't know where I was.
351
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,640
They were calling their mums and
went out looking for where I was
352
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,080
and I just went off and ran off
and ended up smacking a car,
353
00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:32,760
the car's an off-duty
police officer,
354
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,920
so I ended up getting
arrested for that...
355
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,440
Um, yeah.
356
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,520
You know, when I look back on
my run-ins with the police,
357
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,680
I'm not going to make an excuse
and say, it's all down to my mum
358
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,040
co, you know, it's down to me
and my decisions that I've made but
359
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,840
when you lose your mum, yeah, it's
360
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,280
going to twist you up a little bit.
361
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,320
After being hooded for nearly
seven hours, Ollie quits.
362
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:32,320
I've got a lot to be proud about
but I can't sit in there any more,
363
00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:33,920
it's just, pfff.
364
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,640
I wanted to complete it but
365
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,640
there was no way I was going
to complete that, sorry.
366
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,560
Well done, buddy, mate.
Fucking lovely to meet you.
367
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,400
Honestly, mate, it was a pleasure
having you on the course. Cheers.
368
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,960
The loss of my mum,
it isn't all negative
369
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,560
and I've had a chance
to reflect on that.
370
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,080
It's made me a much more of a
compassionate person, I think.
371
00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:00,040
I'm more aware of how
people are feeling
372
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,600
and finally it's just brought me
closer to my family and my brothers.
373
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,280
I formed a relationship with my
father that I didn't have before.
374
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,840
Lovely to meet you.
375
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,760
The remaining three recruits have
become accustomed to being
376
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,760
interrogated individually.
377
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,320
Now the team tries
a different approach.
378
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,160
Right, time to stop
fucking about now.
379
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,720
Who are you?
380
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,400
Ryan. Ryan what?
Roddy.
381
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,560
Ryan Roddy. Who are you?
Freddie Iron. Who are you? John.
382
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,040
John, look at me.
383
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,800
Look up, look up.
384
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,880
Open your eyes and
stop fucking about.
385
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,840
Look up, open your eyes
and stop fucking about!
386
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:04,520
When I was captured in Iraq, there's
a whole range of emotions that
387
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,640
would have went through.
388
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,440
I might have been special forces
389
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,120
but I'm in the life
preservation society,
390
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,040
so I want to be alive.
391
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,920
Roddy, do you know John?
392
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,760
No. John, do you know
Roddy? Look at me.
393
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,280
Freddie, do you know John? No.
394
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,400
John, do you know Freddie? Hm-mm.
395
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,160
Thought you did.
396
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,120
What the fuck's going on?
397
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,160
And that, I was the commander,
so the other person who was
398
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,240
captured with me,
I was responsible for him
399
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,560
and I was always aware of that.
400
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,120
I was always aware of where
he was and how he was coping
401
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:46,360
and not just my means of
survival or escape but his also.
402
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,960
Do you know what he told me?
403
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,120
He told me that you two
went to school together.
404
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,400
Where did you go to school, Freddie?
405
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,000
I can't remember.
406
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,120
Oh, fuck off!
407
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,040
Where did you go to school?
408
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,960
I went to school in Dulwich.
409
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,880
Dulwich? You told me that you went
to school with this man over
410
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,520
here in Bracknell, at Garth Hill.
411
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,960
Now, he's telling me that he went
to school in Dulwich for dullards.
412
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,840
What do you think, Ryan?
413
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,320
Which one of these two is the
biggest knobhead? I don't know.
414
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:26,440
It's hard, isn't it?
415
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,480
You told me that you didn't
have a bag but guess what?
416
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,720
Your friend over here
told me that you did.
417
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,840
You know damn well, you have
just dropped him in the shit!
418
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,360
'When I was in Iraq, captured,
419
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,480
'I don't think I ever got to a point
where I was scared of dying.
420
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,800
'It was just something that, if it
was going to happen,
421
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,000
'it would happen.'
422
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,120
But until it did, I would do all I
could to prevent it.
423
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,840
'Putting certain pressures during
selection like sleep deprivation,
424
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,320
'like stress positions,
put pressures on candidates
425
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,160
'that are as close to reality as
possible...'
426
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,400
'..it helped me no end.'
427
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:37,040
Ryan, Freddie and John have been
awake for 35 hours...
428
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,520
and are about to undergo the next
phase of interrogation.
429
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,800
Recruit number 11, Ryan, has so far
revealed little information
430
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,240
about himself or his fellow recruits.
431
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,880
Ryan? Yes?
432
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,000
We're going to start
talking about John again.
433
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,400
We're going to start
talking about Freddie again.
434
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,240
What were your impressions
of both these guys
435
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,520
when you were
out on the hills with them?
436
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,560
That they were
fairly...fairly impressive.
437
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,680
In what sense? Er, just... You know,
they were good hill walkers,
438
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,040
big men, bigger than me,
439
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,200
so I found it difficult to sort of
keep, you know, to their pace.
440
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,280
We're looking for the grey man.
The grey man doesn't stick out.
441
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,840
The grey man blends in.
442
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,120
I think they've both got, you know,
backgrounds in sports and stuff.
443
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,160
What about you? What's
your background in sport?
444
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Erm...
445
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:39,680
Martial arts background.
Good results?
446
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,320
Mixed. Mixed results.
447
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:42,560
Emotion is no bad thing,
448
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,120
but if someone can easily read
your emotion, you're no longer grey.
449
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320
I would say being a grey man
would underpin
450
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:53,280
the success of a Special Forces
operative.
451
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,200
Some people may say that I'm not
that emotional,
452
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,280
some people may say I'm
a little bit cold.
453
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,080
I think, more than that,
I'm just maybe not that expressive.
454
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,520
I'm not good at showing you what
I'm feeling even though
455
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,320
I'm feeling it at the time.
456
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,840
I want you to draw your family tree.
457
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,360
Why? Why do you need my family tree?
Why? Because I'm asking you.
458
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,320
Not rocket science. Crack on.
459
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,640
(SIGHING) OK.
460
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,960
Erm...
461
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,440
What about your mum?
Where does your mum live?
462
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,120
She lives, er...back in Ireland.
463
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,840
Write her address down there.
464
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,600
I can't write her address down.
465
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,240
Why can't you write her
address down there?
466
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,400
I fear for her safety.
467
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,640
I don't give a flying fuck
what you fear for.
468
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,560
I've been asked to
get this information.
469
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,360
You put the fucking thing down.
470
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,720
I guess my mother was probably
the biggest role model growing up.
471
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Erm... When you realise a lot of
people don't like you
472
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,680
because of the...because of your
background or your religion,
473
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,520
you could easily become bigoted
or something like that.
474
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,800
She didn't let that happen.
475
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,280
She was very careful about how
to describe that
476
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,680
so she didn't let that
become an issue.
477
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,400
You don't understand where I'm
fucking coming from.
478
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,680
I need this information. Write her
name and address down.
479
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,760
Contact number. I'm not sure where
she's living, or...
480
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,720
I'm quite honestly not
sure of her contact number.
481
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,000
That's the truth.
Being fucking straight with me?
482
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,600
I'm being straight with you.
483
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,480
I'm being straight with you.
484
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,120
Just don't have it off the top of my
head. OK then.
485
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,520
He's very natural at this.
486
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,000
Or if he's not,
he's very good at being grey.
487
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,320
I didn't think
I was the grey man in selection,
488
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,040
but it surprised me that,
when I came through selection,
489
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,480
people didn't even know
I was on selection with them.
490
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,000
So, I was surprised by that,
but, you know, sometimes being
491
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,080
the gobby Scottish guy, it's quite
hard to stay the grey man.
492
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,200
But I must've done.
493
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,880
OK. Hood off.
494
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Goggles off.
495
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,000
Right. This is the situation.
496
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:08,120
I can either be good mummy or bad
mummy. It's kind of up to you.
497
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,760
After being compromised by John's
earlier statements,
498
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,240
Freddie needs a strategy to regain
some credibility.
499
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,040
Now, it was John that mentioned
the fact that you had a bag.
500
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,480
Now, I want to know about that bag.
Who does that belong to?
501
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,720
I'm very sorry, I lied before.
502
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,200
So, you're not going to be doing
that again, are you?
503
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,280
I will not. Good.
504
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,280
'I was dishonest. I'm very sorry...'
505
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,040
He's a bright one, this one.
Yeah, he plays it. Yeah, he is.
506
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Right, John, open your eyes.
You need to open your eyes. Yep.
507
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Going to have a chat. Conversation.
508
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,440
'Here's a chance to tell me
what you were doing yesterday.'
509
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,240
'Who was with you?'
510
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,000
'Freddie.' 'Yeah?'
511
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,840
This guy Freddie?
512
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,760
It was. Yeah? Is this the Freddie
you went to school with?
513
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,320
It's not, is it?
514
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,360
So, which Freddie is this
and when did you meet him?
515
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,880
He's Freddie... I met on, erm...
516
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,280
Facebook?
517
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,160
OK. Met him on Facebook.
What was the reason for meeting him?
518
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,040
Just a walking group.
519
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,920
One thing was really strange
yesterday when you got picked up.
520
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,000
'You all dressed exactly the same.'
521
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,080
Is there a dress code in this
Facebook? It was his idea.
522
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,400
Just, like, he likes to
dress up, I guess.
523
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,760
Whose idea? Freddie's.
Freddie's idea.
524
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,800
'OK.' 'Sure.'
525
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,480
How do you feel
about your friend John...
526
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,960
..dropping you in the shit today?
He didn't drop me in the shit.
527
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,200
We were all terrified.
We were all scared.
528
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,400
We're not used to this at all,
so, you know, what he says under
529
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,120
duress is not something that
I'm going to ever judge him for.
530
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,560
Really trying to humanise
himself there, really.
531
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,600
I'm getting some cramps in my legs
and hips and stuff. Right.
532
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,240
One of the recognised techniques
is humanising yourself.
533
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,560
Explain that you've got weakness.
534
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,640
If he identifies you as a person
than he's not going to treat
535
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,680
you how he doesn't want to
be treated.
536
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,800
Who are all these
people on your Facebook page?
537
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,680
Erm, lots of people help promote me
because I'm trying to raise...
538
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,400
I'm fundraising for charity.
539
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,560
My dad's a four-time survivor
of cancer when we were growing up,
540
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,200
so I've made some money
when I did my Ironman race.
541
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,640
'There was one memory, when I went
to my dad's bed in hospital.'
542
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,680
'You know, he could,
sort of, barely speak and...
543
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,600
'I don't think I really understood
what was going on.
544
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,320
'Mum and Dad put on a pretty
good face.'
545
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,320
It's a positive story in the end,
that's the thing,
546
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,280
cos he's still around. I think you
can always view things positively.
547
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,000
There are some things that
are really shit, and they will stay
548
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,960
shit, but it doesn't improve
the situation, your outlook on it,
549
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,360
so be positive.
550
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,240
Grab a seat. Go on, quickly.
551
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,920
Right. What I want you to do...
552
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,200
..on this bit of paper, I just need
you to write at the top
553
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,720
your next of kin details there,
please, and a contact
554
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,240
telephone number that I can reach
them with.
555
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,680
My cousin is in Antigua.
556
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,200
Who's your next of kin here
in the UK?
557
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,320
Don't have one in the UK. OK.
558
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Got no brothers and sisters?
559
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,400
Don't have any.
560
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,600
On selection, the interrogators
are given no background information
561
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,400
on the recruits, but can do their own
research of public sources.
562
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,800
Who's Gary?
563
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,680
John? Who's Gary?
564
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,840
Gary Calloway.
Who's he? Is he your brother?
565
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080
Someone with a similar surname,
I guess.
566
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,480
Similar surname? The same surname.
Is he a family member?
567
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,400
He's... He isn't.
568
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,720
Take five seconds now,
reassess, reappraise
569
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,840
and think what the fuck
you're doing.
570
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,040
Look at me. Oi.
571
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,440
'Some people will just gradually
grind down and break.'
572
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,560
And you can almost see a mental
battle going on inside their heads.
573
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,760
'Always getting more tired,
more hungry and going to a dark
574
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,880
'and darker place until you could
either manage it or you couldn't.'
575
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:44,680
At the moment,
all you're doing is moving round
576
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:47,560
and round in a circle, and you're
not giving me a straight answer.
577
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,920
Look at me, John. Look at me.
578
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Number eight, Calloway,
he's just going downhill.
579
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,200
It's the lack of mental agility,
the lack of any kind of strategy.
580
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,800
I think that he would seriously
jeopardise himself
581
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,120
and his colleagues
582
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,160
and he would potentially find
himself in a life-threatening
583
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,040
situation if he acted like that
in a scenario like that.
584
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,840
I would like to bring him out.
585
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,640
All right, John,
take your blindfold off.
586
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Recognise me?
587
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,680
Yep.
588
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,480
I'm here to tell you you've now been
officially withdrawn
589
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,520
from this phase.
590
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,480
All right? Come in. Grab a seat, man.
591
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,200
'The deteriorating performance
of recruit eight, John,
592
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:02,880
'during the interrogation
593
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,680
'has led to him being
withdrawn from the course.'
594
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,320
OK, what do you feel from that phase
of the course?
595
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,040
It's hard work. It is hard work.
596
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,480
It's just draining.
What could I have done better?
597
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,240
It's just the whole
"alpha male" thing.
598
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,920
If you could learn to
just humble yourself...
599
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,760
You need to go through life and you
need to look at people as equals.
600
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,120
You can have an attitude, you can
have an ego, but just control it.
601
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,800
Hmm. Yeah, it's mad.
It's been a mental week.
602
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,120
I just need to go home
and process it, basically -
603
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,320
and figure out
what the hell's gone on.
604
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,560
We do wish you the best of luck,
John. It's been a pleasure.
605
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,800
Nice to meet you, anyway.
You too, man.
606
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,480
'Only Freddie and Ryan
are left on the course.
607
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,400
'The interrogation
has lasted 18 hours...
608
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,520
'..and the interrogators have six
hours left to break the recruits.
609
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,160
'They launch an all-out attack,
610
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,400
'using all the lies and
inconsistencies against them.'
611
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,360
Where were you going with
the fucking map?
612
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,760
Why were you going there?
Why were you going there? Why?
613
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,760
That was the point
we picked to finish.
614
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,680
I understand this looks
really bad...
615
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,680
"Looks bad?" Looks fucking "bad"?
616
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,440
Who sent you out?
Who gave you the kit?
617
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,640
We bought it... Who made it all
match? Who map read? You did.
618
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,960
Who planned it? You did.
619
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,600
This is not good enough and
if you think that by sitting there,
620
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,200
saying nothing... Shut up,
we're wasting our fucking time.
621
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,520
Guard! Guard!
622
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,240
What were you doing up the hill?
We were walking. Why?
623
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Because we were part of a
small, closed group. No, enough.
624
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,000
You were thinking to lie
625
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,840
and that don't carry no fucking
code with me, sunshine.
626
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,240
Ryan, you don't kit all
your fucking mates out
627
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,080
with specialist military-type kit
628
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,040
and then say, "You know what?
Let's go on the hills..."
629
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,720
You can get a list -
630
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,560
an itinerary list online
and that's all standard stuff.
631
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,080
It's as simple as that.
632
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,120
Sometimes, the most obvious answer
is the right one.
633
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Listen to him. I have. What do you
think of what he's just said?
634
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,480
I'm going to put your hoods
back on in a minute.
635
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,000
You're going to be taken away...
636
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,800
Whatever time you spend,
start considering your future.
637
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,840
The winning is not important to me.
It's the process that's important.
638
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,400
And it's not that I want to win,
639
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,160
so that people will think
I'm good at something.
640
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,720
FREDDIE: 'A lot of people asked me
641
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,120
'whether this could be
a competitive process.
642
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,320
'Of course it's competitive.
643
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,520
'But actually, it's
competitive together.'
644
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,800
'When things are getting tough
and you're in a small group,
645
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,920
'Whatever's happened,
it's a really unique moment.'
646
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,880
Take your blindfold off.
647
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,560
Do you recognise me? Yeah.
648
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,960
Take a moment. I'm back.
Get your eyes used to it.
649
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,080
OK, that is this phase complete.
650
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,600
Just take a moment and just relax.
Deep breaths...
651
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,120
FREDDIE SIGHS
OK? Yeah.
652
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,760
I say again, over and complete.
653
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,400
Take a couple of minutes,
collect yourself.
654
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,960
OK?
655
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,920
It's quite hard, adjusting
to the light, sir.
656
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,640
Ready to move on?
Couple of more minutes.
657
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,760
Turn around and face me. Come here.
658
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,080
That's it.
659
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,400
It's all working, it's all right.
660
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,760
Deep breaths.
661
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,920
Deep breaths.
RYAN SIGHS
662
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,320
Take your time.
663
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,320
All right?
664
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,240
'Of the 30 recruits
who started the course,
665
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,160
'Freddie and Ryan are the only two
to make it to the end.
666
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,080
'But that doesn't mean
they've done enough to pass.
667
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,200
'That decision is still
in the hands of the DS.'
668
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,480
We had an officer who got
right to the end of the course
669
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,280
and as we were preparing
for our badging day,
670
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,400
he got told he'd failed.
671
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,320
And he'd just done six months
672
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,480
and this guy was obviously in tears.
673
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,120
There wasn't anything wrong with
him, he just didn't fit the mould.
674
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,480
Right, OK.
675
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,160
Freddie.
676
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,680
He wasn't quite the grey man.
677
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:32,280
However, he always, always,
throughout,
678
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,400
attempted this humanising,
polite, respectful...
679
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Wanted to maintain rapport.
680
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,760
Yeah. Number 11?
681
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,320
He adopted this "grey man" persona.
682
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,960
He was very submissive and
he played what he had to play.
683
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,840
No more, no less.
Yeah, I saw that on the monitor.
684
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,640
Let's do it.
685
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,880
All right...
686
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,480
I won't leave you
in suspense any longer.
687
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,840
You have come to
the end of the course.
688
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,720
Do you have...
689
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,160
..the qualities of a
Special Forces operator?
690
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,680
Sometimes, you took
your finger off the pulse...
691
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,920
I can let you know that you have
passed the course. Well done.
692
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,240
Cheers!
693
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:50,400
Fucking brilliant. Amazing. Well
done. Absolutely brilliant. Cheers.
694
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,680
That means a huge amount. I'd just
like to tell you that you've passed.
695
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:56,520
Well done, Ryan. Thank you.
696
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:01,960
Well done, mate. Thanks.
Call me Anthony. All right, Anthony.
697
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,160
That's fucking brilliant, mate.
698
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,440
Only you two have passed.
699
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,280
Only us two have passed?
700
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,240
Yeah. You two, out of 30. Wow.
701
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,720
So... That's a good feeling.
702
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,080
I think they've finally broken me!
703
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,400
Fuck me!
704
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,920
That euphoria of being at the end -
705
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,680
being that guy standing,
706
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,760
when all those others have fallen
707
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,680
and you've achieved what others
have failed to - is immense.
708
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,920
Oh, man! How satisfying was it?
709
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,200
He's like, "I'm pleased
to say you've passed."
710
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:54,480
Yeah, so you could be in this if you
want. That was the coolest thing.
711
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,480
Literally the coolest thing ever.
Shit, that is amazing.
712
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,360
I'm so glad I stuck it out
and kept at it. Yeah, yeah.
713
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,000
I completely agree.
714
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,240
For the last time please, gentlemen.
715
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Guys, on behalf of
myself and the team,
716
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,280
I'd just like to congratulate you.
717
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,080
You would never put
yourselves together...
718
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,160
in a pub, or anywhere -
at school, university -
719
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,800
but the SAS world
is such a unique world.
720
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,880
It's got such a unique skills...
721
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,280
You get your guys that have
come from broken families,
722
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,160
that have had a rough upbringing
723
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,600
and then, you get your guys who
come from a privileged background.
724
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,840
You've got that drive and
that passion to push forward.
725
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,040
You two have got something
that you share together
726
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,560
and that belongs in our world.
727
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,040
And honestly,
if we ever see you again,
728
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,280
come and tap us on the shoulder
and have a beer with us.
729
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,480
Will do. Well done, Freddie..
730
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,240
'It taught me a lot about myself.
731
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,640
'I understood my limits,
I understood my weaknesses.'
732
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,400
It was unbelievable.
I fucking really loved it.
733
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,840
Then I got to the squadron
734
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,720
and realised I was back at the bottom
of the fucking pecking order!
735
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,440
It's short-lived!
736
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,640
Come on, guys. You two lead us out.
737
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,000
'I've absolutely loved my
Special Forces career.
738
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,800
'It was the best days of my life.
739
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,720
Having the guys there by your side,'
740
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,360
knowing that they're going to
literally die for you, if need be,
741
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,160
is a very special bond to have.
742
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:30,480
LAUGHTER
743
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,800
All right, guys - fuck off(!)
LAUGHTER
744
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,040
All the best for the future, guys.
Cheers. Take care.
745
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,800
'Generally, we all want
to be part of the flock.
746
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,800
'But for some of us,
we want to excel at something.
747
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,520
'We want to be remembered
for something.
748
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,080
'If not for everybody else,
for ourselves.
749
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,960
'We've come through
a gruelling assessment
750
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,240
'and no matter which way
you look at that,'
751
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,200
you've achieved something phenomenal.
752
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,160
That was amazing that, wasn't it?
That was amazing.
753
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,080
Honestly, the coolest thing...
That is the coolest thing I've done.
754
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,480
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